| sebner | asac: is firefox-qt still alive? :P | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| micahg | chrisccoulson: idr | 00:00 |
| micahg | sebner: install kmozillahelper :) | 00:00 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, i will carry on with that again tomorrow | 00:00 |
| chrisccoulson | but i'm starting to officially hate gjs :) | 00:00 |
| asac | sebner: i think most understand that native qt doesnt give much over a good qt theme engine ;) ... but adds loads of maintenance effort | 00:00 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, let me know if I need to look at it this weekend | 00:00 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, now worries | 00:01 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 00:01 |
| chrisccoulson | s/now/no | 00:01 |
| sebner | heh | 00:01 |
| sebner | asac: btw, have I ever told you that you work far too much? :P (assuming you are currently in the same timezone as I am) | 00:02 |
| asac | yes | 00:02 |
| asac | ;) | 00:02 |
| sebner | :D | 00:02 |
| DanaG | weird... 3.7 build still seems broken. | 00:42 |
| micahg | DanaG: xul didn't bui;d | 00:42 |
| DanaG | Dang. | 00:42 |
| micahg | DanaG: hopefully new 3.6 builds in about 12 hourss | 00:42 |
| micahg | idk if I can fix xul193 tonight | 00:43 |
| DanaG | hmm, perhaps I should try wrapping mozilla-runtime with an sh script that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH. | 00:43 |
| micahg | DanaG: already exists | 00:43 |
| DanaG | Well, somehow mozilla-runtime isn't getting it, or something. | 00:44 |
| DanaG | yay, making my own wrapper worked. | 00:49 |
| micahg | DanaG: ?? | 00:49 |
| DanaG | I dpkg-diverted mozilla-runtime out of the way, and made a #!/bin/sh script with this: | 00:49 |
| DanaG | export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.3a4pre/:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 00:49 |
| DanaG | env > /dev/stderr | 00:49 |
| DanaG | exec /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.3a4pre/mozilla-runtime.distrib $@ | 00:49 |
| DanaG | env for debug, of course. | 00:50 |
| DanaG | interesting... it seems mozilla-runtime gets a very minimal environment. | 00:51 |
| DanaG | It'd be nice if the "plugin has crashed" showed the logo of the plugin or of the creator. | 00:52 |
| DanaG | Such as Flash / Adobe, or Silverlight / Microsoft. | 00:52 |
| DanaG | http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2010/02/10/crashed-plugin-ui/ | 00:53 |
| LLStarks | i'd prefer a full-on kernel panic than have to worry about EVERY SINGLE PLUGIN | 00:56 |
| LLStarks | generic image = KISS | 00:57 |
| LLStarks | asac, fta. can we get umd build that is newer than changeset 68737c373aba? bugzilla 558690 was an ubuntu-only bug and it just got fixed. | 00:59 |
| LLStarks | *umd 3.7 build | 01:00 |
| micahg | LLStarks: I'll get to it when I can :) | 01:00 |
| micahg | LLStarks: first priority is 3.6 so we can get ipc testing | 01:00 |
| LLStarks | good call. i'm quite fond of oopp. | 01:00 |
| LLStarks | btw, how can i make my builds have proper hinting? | 01:01 |
| LLStarks | cairo is sucking hard. | 01:01 |
| micahg | LLStarks: if we knew that, I don't think we'd have an issue :) | 01:01 |
| micahg | LLStarks: there are some workarounds in the old bug for hinting | 01:02 |
| LLStarks | what is the heart of the problem that makes hinting break with official mozilla tarballs? | 01:02 |
| LLStarks | and how does umd circumvent that issue? | 01:02 |
| micahg | DanaG: I'll look into the wrapper and make sure we're setting everything we should | 01:02 |
| micahg | LLStarks: we don't know and how does it | 01:02 |
| DanaG | Now my only issue is "This report does not apply to a packaged program". | 01:02 |
| DanaG | ... since I overrode mozilla-runtime. | 01:03 |
| LLStarks | well, fta must know something that i don't. | 01:03 |
| LLStarks | :) | 01:03 |
| micahg | LLStarks: I'm mising something | 01:03 |
| micahg | DanaG: 'tis ok, I have enough info now | 01:03 |
| micahg | DanaG: you can attach wrapper and comments to bug 513887 | 01:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 513887 in firefox "Flash, Java, etc. does not work with out of process plugins and causes Firefox to become unresponsive" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513887 | 01:04 |
| LLStarks | micahg, umd builds have proper hinting. i also think 3.6 in main does too. | 01:04 |
| micahg | LLStarks: ah, hinting is fixed, smoothing is not | 01:05 |
| micahg | LLStarks: for 3.6 we're using in source libs, for 3.7 we are not | 01:06 |
| micahg | LLStarks: I'll work on getting Firefox 3.7 to work like 3.6 after UDS | 01:07 |
| LLStarks | source libs? | 01:07 |
| micahg | LLStarks: libraries that mozilla ships vs system libs | 01:07 |
| LLStarks | aside from stray bugs, 3.7 works the same as 3.6 as far i'm concerned. no hinting errors. | 01:08 |
| micahg | oh, maybe latest cairo fixes it idk | 01:09 |
| LLStarks | 3.6 uses system cairo, right? | 01:09 |
| micahg | LLStarks: no | 01:09 |
| asac | LLStarks: for lucid we run dailies again | 01:10 |
| asac | but its probably broken ;) | 01:10 |
| asac | e.g. fails to build | 01:10 |
| LLStarks | h | 01:11 |
| LLStarks | *ah | 01:11 |
| LLStarks | asac, i'm getting striped pngs with 3.6 main. | 03:05 |
| LLStarks | http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2558/stripe.png | 03:07 |
| LLStarks | libpng acting up? | 03:07 |
| LLStarks | micahg, ever see anything like this in 3.6 main? | 03:14 |
| LLStarks | http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2558/stripe.png | 03:14 |
| LLStarks | certain pngs not rendering properly | 03:14 |
| LLStarks | renders normally in chromium | 03:15 |
| micahg | LLStarks: no, you have the link so I can try? | 03:15 |
| LLStarks | http://shinigamifaqs.com/Themes/default/images/theme/main_block.png | 03:16 |
| micahg | LLStarks: looks fine to me | 03:16 |
| micahg | LLStarks: what graphics driver? | 03:16 |
| LLStarks | intel | 03:16 |
| * micahg too | 03:16 | |
| LLStarks | not all pngs do that | 03:16 |
| micahg | LLStarks: idk, are you running the latest kernel? | 03:17 |
| LLStarks | yeah | 03:18 |
| LLStarks | 21 | 03:18 |
| micahg | LLStarks: also, there have been a couple intel driver updates in the past couple days | 03:18 |
| LLStarks | if that was the case, why only certain pngs? | 03:18 |
| LLStarks | alpha channel? | 03:18 |
| LLStarks | for what it's worth, i am running xorg-edgers and alpha pngs are looking fine | 03:19 |
| LLStarks | apng too | 03:19 |
| micahg | LLStarks: could be there's a bug in xorg-edgers drivers, I'm running hte intel driver from archive lucid | 03:20 |
| LLStarks | hmm. | 03:20 |
| LLStarks | certain jpegs are also doing this when not zoomed | 03:20 |
| LLStarks | http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9499/lovesgv.jpg | 03:21 |
| LLStarks | looks fine when zoomed | 03:21 |
| LLStarks | here's how i see it: http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7241/lovescreenshot.png | 03:22 |
| micahg | LLStarks: try archive drivers | 03:22 |
| LLStarks | will do. | 03:23 |
| LLStarks | brb | 03:23 |
| ddecator | is spidermonkey in lucid in any way? | 07:48 |
| dr3mro | hey is there an ubuntu ppa for lucid as they removed spidermonkey from there repositories | 07:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | hi hi kangoro | 08:59 |
| ddecator | hey BUGabundo_remote | 08:59 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: you gave tbird back? | 11:52 |
| asac | do you have the build failure log somewhere still? | 11:56 |
| asac | i need that to get doko look into it | 11:56 |
| gnomefreak | the bot works again :) | 12:41 |
| gnomefreak | is firefox safe to use or is it still broken? | 12:43 |
| gnomefreak | 3.7 == no browser 3.6 keeps locking up on me and others | 12:44 |
| asac | gnomefreak: daily? | 12:49 |
| gnomefreak | nope 3.6 is still broken | 12:50 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yes | 12:50 |
| asac | was there a daily today or yesterday? | 12:50 |
| asac | last build before was in the middle of a the plugin transition | 12:50 |
| asac | so we want to check latest today before going crazy | 12:50 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i got updates a little while ago. sometime in the last 18 hours or so | 12:50 |
| gnomefreak | asac: version 3.6.5~hg20100414r34076+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd2 | 12:51 |
| asac | hmm | 12:51 |
| asac | yeah | 12:51 |
| * asac upgrades too | 12:51 | |
| asac | to see | 12:51 |
| asac | if there are hangups we should check | 12:51 |
| asac | otherwise we wiill be hit hard by 3.6.4 | 12:51 |
| gnomefreak | the last couple of weeks has had this issue | 12:52 |
| * gnomefreak tries running 3.7 from term | 12:52 | |
| gnomefreak | 3.7 o0utput from term is gnomefreak@Development:~$ firefox-3.7 | 12:53 |
| gnomefreak | gnomefreak@Development:~$ ps aux |grep firefox | 12:53 |
| gnomefreak | 1000 4262 0.0 0.2 1856 580 pts/1 S+ 07:52 0:00 grep firefox | 12:53 |
| asac | not sure | 12:53 |
| * gnomefreak sick of using chromium it doesnt print correctly | 12:53 | |
| chrisccoulson | hey asac, sorry i had to go out for an appointment | 13:13 |
| chrisccoulson | no, i didn't give thunderbird back | 13:13 |
| chrisccoulson | (i'm not allowed to for stuff in main) | 13:14 |
| gnomefreak | ok firefox froze so i killed the process but why are there 4 processes, seems like a lot for just a browsere | 13:25 |
| gnomefreak | s/browsere/browser | 13:25 |
| gnomefreak | ^^^ maybe causes the "slow/freeze" not sure what word to use | 13:26 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: yeah | 13:29 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: i found out who by now ;) | 13:29 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: how is the 3.6 build1 for security ppa project going? | 13:29 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - oh, micahg has already updated the branch for that? | 13:42 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent :) | 13:43 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - ok, i will get that in to the PPA this afternoon | 13:44 |
| chrisccoulson | we just go through the normal release process for that? (ie, tag it 3.6.4+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1) | 13:44 |
| * gnomefreak getting tired of getting up to change cd player. need to get a battery for remote | 13:48 | |
| * gnomefreak hates filing wishlist bugs | 13:59 | |
| gnomefreak | file a bug on liferea and i get the following output | 13:59 |
| gnomefreak | OpenOffice path before fixup is '/usr/lib/openoffice' | 13:59 |
| gnomefreak | OpenOffice path is '/usr/lib/openoffice' | 13:59 |
| gnomefreak | and it never closes | 14:00 |
| gnomefreak | i thought we were adding support to apport for PPA packages? | 15:15 |
| gnomefreak | well ubuntu-bug fails but apport-collect bug# works | 15:56 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - is OOPP meant to be enabled in 3.6.4? | 16:06 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: yes | 16:08 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: thats why we need to get build1 up now | 16:08 |
| asac | and call for testing | 16:08 |
| asac | so we can tell them: no, that needs to stay disabled ... ;) | 16:08 |
| asac | based on real feedback | 16:08 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - it's disabled in build1 | 16:08 |
| asac | it is? | 16:08 |
| asac | ok | 16:08 |
| chrisccoulson | well, disabled as in "dom.ipc.plugins.enabled" is set to false | 16:08 |
| asac | then i didnt see that they changed their plans | 16:08 |
| chrisccoulson | but it's a resounding failure when i enable it :( | 16:08 |
| chrisccoulson | it just crashes and hangs | 16:08 |
| asac | yeah | 16:08 |
| asac | so they probably noticed it ;) | 16:09 |
| asac | however, afaik the code landed | 16:09 |
| asac | and they dnt know if it causes regressions even with disabled | 16:09 |
| asac | iirc | 16:09 |
| asac | so lets get it up ;) | 16:09 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, so we leave it disabled for now then, it's practically unusable with it enabled | 16:09 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: we shouldnt enable without them | 16:10 |
| asac | we ride whatever they do | 16:10 |
| asac | but they landed that ode | 16:11 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - so, for the 3.6.4 update, i just tag it for release like i would with any other upload before i put it in the PPA? (sorry, i'm a bit unsure as I didn't upload the last security updates until after the mozilla release) | 16:22 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't want to mess up the version numbers in the ppa ;) | 16:22 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: yes. you just use the _BUILD1 tag and use +build1 as the upstream version | 16:23 |
| asac | and you document it like that | 16:23 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: also you get the USN for that for this upload | 16:23 |
| asac | because in case its good we dont need to upload again | 16:23 |
| asac | i think there are other BUILD1 uploads a bit further down in the changelog | 16:23 |
| asac | (otherwise look on stable branches like hardy) | 16:23 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - cool, that's ok then, i will get that sorted now | 16:25 |
| asac | nice | 16:26 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: also setup a blog... get on planet. blog about it. | 16:26 |
| asac | tell me so i can forward that call for testing on my blog ;) | 16:27 |
| asac | e.g. lets get started on getting more folks again on the ppa | 16:27 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/146-new-firefox-securitystability-upgrade-available-for-testing.html | 16:27 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - ok, no problem . the other thing i've been looking at today is bug 543064, but i'm not sure how that's meant to work on tb2 | 16:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 543064 in thunderbird "ensure that x-www-browser is used if no http handler is found through gnome integration" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/543064 | 16:27 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't find any preference for it, and if i remove the handler specified in gconf, then it fails to open any links just like in tb3 | 16:28 |
| chrisccoulson | i tried following the code in tb3, and i think we'd need a patch if we were to make it use x-www-browser as a fallback. i'm just wondering if i should fix bug 543060 as a priority instead, as that would make most of the issue go away | 16:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 543060 in thunderbird "thunderbird - gnome integration should work even without -gnome-support" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/543060 | 16:30 |
| fta | asac or anyone, do you think i should make the chromium lang packs mandatory for everyone? or just keep it like it is | 16:46 |
| fta | wrt bug 561624 | 16:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 561624 in chromium-browser "Create meta-package with dependencyes like in google-chrome" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/561624 | 16:46 |
| asac | fta: no | 16:55 |
| asac | fta: langpacks should get integrated in language selector | 16:56 |
| asac | talk to arnegoetje | 16:56 |
| asac | if we can do that for universe packages (e.g. if we see its installed also pull in langpacks) | 16:56 |
| fta | i guess it's too late for lucid | 16:57 |
| * micahg thought universe packages ship their own translations | 16:57 | |
| fta | the thing is that those langpacks *must* be in sync with ch. otherwise, it's all messed up | 17:01 |
| asac | good point to note down | 17:01 |
| asac | fta: in that case we probably have to ship all langpacks in the chromium package itself | 17:01 |
| micahg | asac: why not just do a binary depends on the lang package deb? | 17:02 |
| fta | asac, "depends" or drop the all-arch package? | 17:02 |
| fta | ok, uploading like it is | 17:06 |
| micahg | asac: do you want to file the bug to drop xul191 from Lucid? | 17:08 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, uploaded | 17:08 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - excellent, thanks :) | 17:08 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: was my fix good enough for thunderbird? people still complain that they can't start (I guess asac was right and no one reads the NEWS) I added the text to the master bug | 17:09 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i've not had any issues with it at all | 17:09 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: right, because you followed the instructions I"m sure :) | 17:10 |
| micahg | asac: chrisccoulson: does someone want to file the drop xul191 from Lucid bug? | 17:10 |
| chrisccoulson | what is still depending on it now? (other than sugar, that we're going to drop) | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | it's probably best to add xul191 plus the remaining rdepends to the same bug | 17:11 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: only gjs, but we already have a bug to fix that | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i need to try and fix that | 17:12 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I just got a package I needed for libjdic-java sync'd so I"ll upload the diff for it a little later | 17:19 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - do you know which of the dailies needs fixing most urgently? | 17:52 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: he is off | 17:54 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: everything is red ;) | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - oh, i didn't notice he'd gone | 17:54 |
| asac | let me check | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - am i looking in the wrong PPA? | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+packages | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i see quite a bit of green too ;) | 17:55 |
| asac | so firefox 3.6 on hardy is borken | 17:55 |
| asac | then ffox 3.7/1.9.3 | 17:55 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, i had a quick glance at ff3.6 on hardy. i suspect our cairo patch is what breaks that | 17:55 |
| asac | sorry i get picked up | 17:56 |
| asac | have to run down | 17:56 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: could be | 17:56 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll have a look at that then and see what i can do to make it build on hardy | 17:56 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - so, ff3.6.4 is building in the u-m-s PPA now. i'm just testing xulrunner too, and will upload that in a bit | 18:50 |
| micahg | bdrung: does the eclipse package with the .ini have a binary depends on xul192? | 19:16 |
| micahg | bdrung: nm, it does seem to | 19:17 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: what's going on? | 19:38 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: why are you release xul194? | 19:38 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - xul1.9.2.4? | 19:38 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yes | 19:39 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - asac wanted to get it in to the u-m-s PPA so we can get people testing it | 19:39 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: it's not ready yet | 19:39 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: we still have a bug with OOPP | 19:39 |
| chrisccoulson | what isn't ready? | 19:39 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - OOPP is disabled isn't it? | 19:39 |
| chrisccoulson | (it seems to be disabled here anyway) | 19:40 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: no, not entirely | 19:40 |
| chrisccoulson | i tried enabling it ;) | 19:40 |
| chrisccoulson | it didn't work very well | 19:40 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: right, and it should be shipping by default in 3.6.4 | 19:40 |
| micahg | I think that someone might have stumbled on the key | 19:41 |
| chrisccoulson | so there's going to be another upload for final 3.6.4 anyway? | 19:41 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: not before release | 19:41 |
| chrisccoulson | you mean lucid release? | 19:41 |
| * micahg is confused | 19:41 | |
| chrisccoulson | me too :) | 19:41 |
| micahg | OOPP is shipping upstrea, by default in 3.6.4 most likely | 19:42 |
| * micahg does not want 3.6.4 in Lucid release | 19:42 | |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, i get that bit. | 19:42 |
| chrisccoulson | don't worry, it's not in lucid release | 19:42 |
| chrisccoulson | it's targetted for the lucid-security pocket, and in the u-m-s PPA | 19:42 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: there's info in bug 513887 if you want to look into it now | 19:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 513887 in firefox "Flash, Java, etc. does not work with out of process plugins and causes Firefox to become unresponsive" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513887 | 19:42 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I think it's a packaging issue | 19:43 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - but you say that OOPP will be enabled for the final release? (which implies that we are going to do another upload for the security release anyway) | 19:43 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I was going to look into it this weekend | 19:43 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: it is for flash by default | 19:43 |
| chrisccoulson | it's not in the current release though is it? (i tried youtube and didn't see it run in another process) | 19:44 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson, micahg: so this next ff release will be the first with the process separation for plugins? | 19:44 |
| micahg | jdstrand: yes | 19:44 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, that's right | 19:44 |
| jdstrand | cool. I am a fan of that btw | 19:44 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yeah, I saw that also | 19:44 |
| chrisccoulson | but it's disabled at the moment | 19:44 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I need to discuss with upstream, but there will definitely be a build 2 | 19:44 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson, micahg: we should be sure to test the apparmor profile with that configuration | 19:45 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, that's fine. i'm happy with people testing build1 right now | 19:45 |
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| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - i'm wondering if that's not the cause of the current issue ;) | 19:45 |
| jdstrand | hopefully it'll all just work, but we might need some finetuning | 19:45 |
| chrisccoulson | it doesn't work at all atm | 19:45 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: look in kern.log | 19:45 |
| chrisccoulson | firefox just hangs | 19:45 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I'm not, because security PPA uploads IMHO should be free of known issues | 19:45 |
| chrisccoulson | 1 second | 19:45 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: but the profile is disabled by default | 19:45 |
| jdstrand | so if that is a fresh install, then it shouldn't b | 19:45 |
| jdstrand | e | 19:45 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, oh, i've not actually enabled it anyway | 19:46 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: you can be super sure by looking at the output of aa-status | 19:46 |
| jdstrand | (run with sudo) | 19:47 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: once you have a build you are starting to feel comfortable about, we should test the the profile on | 19:47 |
| micahg | jdstrand: can you make the apparmor notification system show blocks with the profile in complain mode or is that a bad idea? | 19:47 |
| jdstrand | micahg: apparmor-notify doesn't care if it is enforce or not | 19:48 |
| jdstrand | while testing in complain mode is valid, enforce mode still needs to be done | 19:48 |
| micahg | jdstrand: it seems to | 19:48 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, i don't see the FF profile when i run aa-status | 19:48 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: k, then it is disabled | 19:48 |
| jdstrand | micahg: oh, maybe the string is different... | 19:49 |
| micahg | jdstrand: should I file a bug? | 19:49 |
| jdstrand | micahg: yes please. it may not get fixed in lucid, but it might | 19:49 |
| jdstrand | (it should be a teeny change) | 19:49 |
| jdstrand | micahg: in the bug, please give dmesg output that should have been caught | 19:50 |
| micahg | jdstrand: k, I was also thinking, can we get an abstraction for feed readers in apparmor? | 19:50 |
| micahg | jdstrand: k | 19:50 |
| jdstrand | micahg: you mean like liferea? | 19:50 |
| micahg | jdstrand: liferea, akregator, and the like | 19:50 |
| micahg | jdstrand: akregator is blocked, that's what spurred the thought | 19:51 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I was planning on trying to fix the OOPP issue in firefox over the weekend | 19:51 |
| jdstrand | micahg: yes, we can, but not for lucid. we can add akregator to the profile | 19:51 |
| micahg | jdstrand: k, I'll file 2 bugs then | 19:51 |
| jdstrand | micahg: if another ff upload is planned for lucid, we can put it in there | 19:52 |
| jdstrand | and then abstract it out in maverick | 19:52 |
| micahg | jdstrand: not planned before release | 19:52 |
| micahg | AFAIK | 19:52 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - barring any major show-stopper, there won't be another upload for release | 19:53 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - do you already have an idea what causes the hang? | 19:53 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: seems to be LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 19:53 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: it's set in the run-mozilla.sh script IIRC, but something seems to not be right in our current env | 19:55 |
| fta | damn, chromium still doesn't appear in the ubuntu software center as a result for chrome | 20:10 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, ^^ do you happen to know what the search engine of that stuff is looking for? | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i'm not too sure, but i can ask mvo when he's around again | 20:12 |
| fta | would be nice | 20:12 |
| micahg | fta: I think software-center's data is cached | 20:28 |
| fta | micahg, "more info" seems up-to-date | 20:29 |
| micahg | fta: maybe it's just the .desktop info that's cached | 20:29 |
| micahg | thunderbird shows up under mail now \o/ | 20:29 |
| fta | firefox is not in web browser though | 20:31 |
| fta | abrowser is | 20:31 |
| micahg | fta: that's not good :( | 20:32 |
| micahg | we might need one more upload then | 20:32 |
| micahg | :( | 20:32 |
| micahg | they look the same | 20:33 |
| micahg | fta: it's because kubuntu-firefox-installer is replacing the .desktop file in app-install-date | 20:36 |
| fta | bad | 20:37 |
| micahg | fta: yep, I need to talk to mvo about what the fix should be | 20:37 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: can I add the flash OOPP bug to the title in the channel as I forsee a lot of bugs from the security upload? | 21:09 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - feel free, but are people going to enable it though? | 21:38 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: that's what I was trying to tell you before, flash is enabled by default | 21:38 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmmm. flash is working fine here (and i don't get it running in a new process) | 21:39 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, I'll test this weekend and see what I get...weird | 21:39 |
| * micahg is wondering if it's the people sharing profiles with 3.6 and 3.7 that had issues | 21:40 | |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - if i change "dom.ipc.plugins.enabled" to true, then flash does fail badly | 21:41 |
| chrisccoulson | but that is set to false by default, and flash seems to be working normally | 21:41 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: do you hvae a dom.ipc.plugins.flash? | 21:41 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.libflashplayer.so | 21:41 |
| chrisccoulson | which is set to true | 21:41 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmmm | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | asac: micahg: chrisccoulson: something is fishy in FF 3.7... all new links tend to open in a new window, not tab! :( | 22:02 |
| BUGabundo | specially from google reader | 22:02 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: any other site? | 22:02 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: BTW, ff37 is an old build ATM | 22:03 |
| BUGabundo | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a4pre) Gecko/20100407 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Minefield/3.7a4pre | 22:03 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: not sure! I almost don't use FF this days | 22:03 |
| BUGabundo | only for greader cause of one addon: nosquint | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | nothing like it for chromium yet | 22:04 |
| Mannequin | hi. On Lucid Linx Beta, after adding the PPA and running a 'safe-upgrade', I got an unbranded Firefox version, named Namoroka (and using a blue icon) | 22:44 |
| Mannequin | but the Thunderbird version is still using the official brand (is that expected too?) | 22:45 |
| Mannequin | I've been told to ask micha, but it seems that user isn't logged in | 22:45 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, i got OOPP working now | 22:54 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 22:54 |
| chrisccoulson | he already left | 22:54 |
| DanaG | weird... icedtea-plugin makes firefox segfault even in safe mode. | 22:54 |
| chrisccoulson | "The Adobe Flash Plugin has crashed" | 22:57 |
| chrisccoulson | rock on! | 22:57 |
| DanaG | Now it just needs to show either the Adobe logo, or the Flash logo. | 22:58 |
| DanaG | here's my icedtea crash: http://pastebin.com/ERTF7BE1 | 22:59 |
| chrisccoulson | looks like an openjdk issue to me | 23:00 |
| mitya | hi gents Can I ask here about thunderbird ? | 23:02 |
| mitya | I have a fresh 10.4 (64bit) with thuderbird and lightning-extension installed, but lightning plugin does not appear for some reason | 23:03 |
| mitya | any ideas whet I missed ? | 23:03 |
| mitya | *what | 23:04 |
| JanC | mitya: is it compatible with that thunderbird version? | 23:06 |
| mitya | JanC: hmm, not sure, how can I check it ? | 23:07 |
| mitya | I thought that if it is in the standard repo, than it is | 23:07 |
| JanC | mitya: well, 10.04 is still beta, so you might want to file a bug about it... | 23:08 |
| mitya | JanC: ok, I'll take a deeper look.. thanks | 23:09 |
| chrisccoulson | the version in the archive is not supported by the latest thunderbird | 23:09 |
| JanC | mitya: you could also try to uninstall the package and install a version from mozilla's addin site (or wherever it can be found) | 23:10 |
| mitya | JanC: ok, I will try, but I read somewhere that I need to compile it for 64bit, and I was happy when I saw in within the standard repo... it seems that I can't avoid the compilation | 23:11 |
| mitya | chrisccoulson: thx | 23:12 |
| mitya | try to find an other way | 23:12 |
| JanC | mitya: compilation? | 23:16 |
| JanC | should be just a .xpi | 23:16 |
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