| Dracari | is iot easier tyo Just remove existing Linux partitions before changing to xubuntu? i decided to switch away from PCLinuxOS on my laptop to xubuntu | 05:52 |
|---|---|---|
| Dracari | and its a Dell Inspirion 1300 | 05:52 |
| Balsaq | is xubuntu going to be the only OS in that computer when you are done Dracari ? | 06:06 |
| Dracari | No | 06:09 |
| Dracari | it dualboot sXP and PCLinuxOS curretly | 06:10 |
| Balsaq | easier...probably, especially if you can make backups. | 06:27 |
| Balsaq | just in case..... | 06:28 |
| * Dracari sighs " its funny.. i gave Up FFXI awhile back but every time i hear a few of the good Tracks from teh various soundtracks to it.. i wonder why i Gave it up..* | 07:16 | |
| Dracari | i wonder how far Wine and DirectX games are these days in Linux. | 07:16 |
| Dracari | i havent tried to run FFXI PC under Wine since 8.04 | 07:16 |
| Dracari | this app UNetBootin has been handy for x86/x86-64 Installs/liveCD testing :3 Saves me bunch of $$ on CD-R's | 08:44 |
| Dracari | great.... i haveto manually download and install my Network drivers for my laptop. | 09:13 |
| Dracari | (wireless is Broadcom based) | 09:13 |
| Dracari | Great... so is the Eithernet. | 09:14 |
| Dracari | How can i manually install broadcom drivers -_-both eithernet AND Wireless are broadcom based on this laptop | 09:49 |
| eagles0513875 | hey guys | 09:59 |
| eagles0513875 | was there someone who needed help with broadcom | 09:59 |
| eagles0513875 | wifi | 09:59 |
| eagles0513875 | Balsaq: | 09:59 |
| eagles0513875 | what was his name | 09:59 |
| Dracari | <--- | 09:59 |
| Dracari | the laptops Eithernet And Wireless are Broadcom | 10:00 |
| Balsaq | yeah it dracari | 10:00 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: can you open up the command line for me | 10:00 |
| eagles0513875 | anythign you do on linux wont effect windows drivers or anything | 10:00 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: can you let me know when you have the commandline open please | 10:01 |
| Dracari | Wifi 43xx based wired 44xx based | 10:01 |
| eagles0513875 | forget the wired | 10:01 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: can i get the exact wifi model please | 10:01 |
| Dracari | to be precise Wifi is the 4318 and Wired 4401-B0 | 10:01 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: can you type the following on command line : sudo apt-get install bw43-fwcutter | 10:02 |
| eagles0513875 | then reboot and see if it works | 10:02 |
| Dracari | Cant | 10:02 |
| Dracari | its completly Isolated from internet | 10:02 |
| Dracari | Because Both are Broadcom based requring the cutter in the first place | 10:03 |
| eagles0513875 | when you installed xubuntu did you have the ethernet plugged in ? | 10:03 |
| Dracari | No | 10:03 |
| Dracari | and its 10.04 Lucid Lynx beta 2 | 10:03 |
| Balsaq | yikes | 10:03 |
| eagles0513875 | ok can you plug it in to the wired | 10:03 |
| eagles0513875 | Balsaq: not yikes | 10:04 |
| Balsaq | qool...i be quiet | 10:04 |
| eagles0513875 | Balsaq: its looking quite nice | 10:04 |
| Balsaq | i see that | 10:04 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: can you wire your self up | 10:04 |
| Dracari | i get Nothing when the Eithernet line is connected | 10:04 |
| eagles0513875 | ok do sudo ifconfig eth0 up | 10:05 |
| eagles0513875 | that will bring the wired network up | 10:05 |
| eagles0513875 | once you do that command do ifconfig | 10:05 |
| eagles0513875 | and let me know if eth0 has an ip | 10:05 |
| Dracari | doesnt even show even an 127.0.0.1 Ip | 10:06 |
| eagles0513875 | did you do sudo ifconfig eth- up | 10:06 |
| eagles0513875 | eth0 up | 10:06 |
| Dracari | yes | 10:06 |
| Dracari | theres nothing showing for eth0 for inet addr Mask or the ipv6 only under lo does it show anything | 10:07 |
| eagles0513875 | ok hold on | 10:07 |
| eagles0513875 | auto eth0 | 10:10 |
| eagles0513875 | then | 10:11 |
| eagles0513875 | sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart | 10:11 |
| Dracari | got no command 'auto' found | 10:11 |
| eagles0513875 | O_o | 10:11 |
| eagles0513875 | sounds like an incomplete install | 10:11 |
| Dracari | Installed via USB (UNetBootin) as im low on CD-Rs | 10:12 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: do you have any data you need on xubuntu | 10:12 |
| eagles0513875 | thats ok | 10:12 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: then in that case i recommend a reinstall with the ethernet plugged in | 10:12 |
| Dracari | i havent used xubuntu since 8.04 | 10:12 |
| Dracari | and i ha dit remove and install the previous Distro that was on it. (PCLinuxOS) | 10:13 |
| Balsaq | they arent even done fixin beta yet eagles0513875 | 10:13 |
| eagles0513875 | Balsaq: its due out this month | 10:13 |
| Dracari | 9.10's installer wasnt detecting XP or even PCLinuxOS on the HDD | 10:14 |
| Balsaq | i know | 10:14 |
| Balsaq | noone in devel has metnioned issues with wireless though... | 10:14 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: have you tried using karmic to install then upgrading via network from karmic to lucid | 10:14 |
| Dracari | had the same prob w/ 9.10 and my win7 box it inturn Actually screwed up 7's System partition killing my install of 7. | 10:14 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: did dual boot or tried to with 7 and karmic killed my win install | 10:15 |
| Dracari | Dualboot | 10:15 |
| eagles0513875 | ya it was dual boot | 10:15 |
| eagles0513875 | ended up going back to windows 7 :( | 10:15 |
| Dracari | i was installing to my 200GB HDD (IDE) while 7 wa son my 500GB sata | 10:16 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: same wiht me 500gb on win 7 and 2tb on karmic but fudged something up | 10:16 |
| Dracari | it wouldnt detect 7 on the sata drive it just saw an active NTFS partition on the sata | 10:16 |
| Balsaq | ndswrapper? | 10:16 |
| Dracari | maybe as to dualbooting 9.10 onward is 7 has a new partition scheming and bootloader than vista | 10:17 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: im not sure on that | 10:17 |
| eagles0513875 | Balsaq: what bout it | 10:17 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: if you do a reinstall with ethernet plugged it its possible that the wifi driver the reverse engineer open source driver | 10:18 |
| Balsaq | isnt that how you get a windows/linux machine running wireless? | 10:18 |
| Dracari | but back to the dell lappy. the incomplete install theory has some merit. | 10:18 |
| eagles0513875 | if not the driver you want is the bw43-fwcutter | 10:18 |
| eagles0513875 | Balsaq: you dont need it anymore | 10:18 |
| Dracari | in the live CD | 10:18 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: how so | 10:18 |
| Dracari | err USB, it said there was restricted Drivers avilable. and it needed to download and install the fwcutter | 10:18 |
| Dracari | its not doing that post install. | 10:18 |
| eagles0513875 | you can do it via commandline | 10:19 |
| eagles0513875 | but if u dont have ethernet | 10:19 |
| Dracari | if it matters m,uch the laptop model is Inspirion 1300 | 10:19 |
| eagles0513875 | u would need to reinstall with the ethernet plugged in | 10:19 |
| eagles0513875 | that way it can pull it during install | 10:19 |
| Dracari | ok i still have the usb drive set as a LiveUSB | 10:20 |
| * Dracari fidgets thru 15 lookalike pendrives | 10:21 | |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: ok ill be back after this lecture when i relocate to see if everything is working for ya | 10:21 |
| eagles0513875 | hehe i have an old 4gb pen drive which i use as install | 10:21 |
| eagles0513875 | usbg | 10:21 |
| eagles0513875 | usbs | 10:21 |
| Dracari | i have a modded Wii where i load my own backed up games via USB | 10:21 |
| Dracari | usefull since the Drive in it is wearing out. | 10:22 |
| eagles0513875 | nice | 10:22 |
| Dracari | it no longer reads GC discs so its a matter of time before its totally shot | 10:22 |
| Dracari | cant complain.. got it for 10$ from my cousin. | 10:23 |
| eagles0513875 | sounds like a bad drive | 10:23 |
| Dracari | yea i got a 2nd wii from a pawnshop but the two are an Ironic Pair | 10:23 |
| Dracari | (2nd one for 30$ w/ extra set of cables) | 10:23 |
| eagles0513875 | nice | 10:23 |
| Dracari | the 2nd one..... cant read DVD Discs only GC discs | 10:24 |
| eagles0513875 | ill be back | 10:24 |
| eagles0513875 | to check on how the reinstall went | 10:24 |
| Dracari | imm going to tell teh installer to Just reuse and reformat the old install's partitions | 10:24 |
| eagles0513875 | thats fine | 10:24 |
| eagles0513875 | im gonna relocate and ill be back asap | 10:24 |
| Dracari | eithernet is plugge din however | 10:25 |
| Dracari | showing Eithernet is Disconnected | 10:25 |
| knome | ethernet | 10:27 |
| Dracari | well . i may as well muck with my DS till eagles is back. | 10:35 |
| Dracari | as even under LiveUSB w/ eithernet connected there sstill no internet access | 10:35 |
| Dracari | **ethernet | 10:35 |
| Dracari | wb Balsaq | 10:43 |
| Balsaq | i know what was that | 10:44 |
| Dracari | it said you timed out | 10:44 |
| Balsaq | hmmm | 10:44 |
| eagles0513875 | Balsaq: | 10:46 |
| eagles0513875 | there he is nm | 10:46 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: how are things going | 10:47 |
| Dracari | wb eagles0513875 and i didnt start i booted into the LiveUSB and Ethernet is Still down | 10:47 |
| eagles0513875 | humm | 10:48 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: did you have this issue with karmic | 10:48 |
| Dracari | No | 10:48 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: then do this install karmic then do the upgrade from karmic to lucid | 10:48 |
| Dracari | i have a live CD but i'll double check | 10:49 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 10:50 |
| Dracari | can the Upgrade be done from the LiveUSBfor Lucid or hasto be done via upgrade in apt-get/yum ? | 10:51 |
| eagles0513875 | !upgrade | 10:52 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading | 10:52 |
| eagles0513875 | see the 2nd link i think it can be done using usb im not sure | 10:52 |
| Dracari | because its going to take close to an hr and ahalf via internet as i only have a 1.5mb dsl. | 10:52 |
| eagles0513875 | normally i just use the internet | 10:52 |
| Dracari | unless my karmic cd is scratched its taking a Highly long time to boot -_- | 10:58 |
| eagles0513875 | O_o | 10:58 |
| eagles0513875 | depends on ur system specs | 10:58 |
| Dracari | the boot time from usb on lucid was less than 2 mins | 10:58 |
| eagles0513875 | cd is always slower the usb | 10:58 |
| eagles0513875 | speed wise | 10:58 |
| Dracari | Karmic reporting Wired network is down. >_< | 10:59 |
| Dracari | the closet i have left on CD is 7.04 (my 8.10 cd is too damaged) | 10:59 |
| eagles0513875 | wait | 10:59 |
| eagles0513875 | try this | 11:00 |
| eagles0513875 | sudo ifconfig eth0 up | 11:00 |
| eagles0513875 | and check to make sure its plugged in on both the router as well as laptop end | 11:00 |
| psycho_oreos | you can check that via mii-tools | 11:00 |
| Dracari | hmmmm Maybe... | 11:01 |
| * Dracari is thinking.. | 11:01 | |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: did sudo ifconfig eth0 up bring anything up? | 11:01 |
| Dracari | the router its connected to is a DD-WRT enabled linksys | 11:01 |
| Dracari | and is under Repater mode | 11:02 |
| Dracari | *Repeater | 11:02 |
| eagles0513875 | thats why | 11:02 |
| eagles0513875 | most likely | 11:02 |
| eagles0513875 | probably have to change it to router | 11:02 |
| Dracari | eth0 is like before showing Nothing for inet addr for etho only for lo | 11:02 |
| psycho_oreos | you use dhclient for that | 11:02 |
| Dracari | i wonder if Repeater bridge would work. | 11:02 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: try what psycho_oreos said try using dhclient to see if u can get an ip using dhcp | 11:03 |
| Dracari | the Main DSL Modem (2wire gateway) is in the other end of the trailer | 11:03 |
| eagles0513875 | humm | 11:04 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: whats ur network setup so i can get an idea of the layout | 11:04 |
| Dracari | dhclient is spamming " DHCPDISCVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 on port 67 interval 16 send_packet: Network is down | 11:05 |
| psycho_oreos | Dracari, sounds like networkmanager is interfering with the operations if its running | 11:05 |
| Dracari | 2Wire Gate = Modem and Router ---- DD-wrt router connected atm as Repeater to make teh connectionover in my bedroom however this pc is connecte dwirelessly to the 2wire | 11:06 |
| Dracari | i dont have an *ethernet line long enough to streach over | 11:06 |
| eagles0513875 | O_O wirelessly to the wire | 11:07 |
| eagles0513875 | can u get closer to the cable | 11:07 |
| Dracari | yes i can connect the lappy to the 2wire modem | 11:07 |
| Dracari | the network in terms of client: Net source : 2wire -- Clients "Windows7 Box"(wirelessly) "BrotherPC" (wired to 2wire) "UNKNOWNID:[dd-wrt router] (Wirelessly) Xbox 1 (wired-dd-wrt) Wii's (Wirelessly to 2wire) Laptop:Wireles sto 2wire under XP/ Wired or Wireless to dd-wrt when i nee dto change AP's) | 11:09 |
| Dracari | if that makes any sense | 11:09 |
| Dracari | and brb nature calls. | 11:09 |
| Dracari | back | 11:12 |
| eagles0513875 | Dracari: | 11:14 |
| eagles0513875 | we need to temporarily wire urself to ur connection so you can download the wifi driver | 11:15 |
| eagles0513875 | you understanding what im getting at | 11:15 |
| Dracari | yea im shutting it down now to move it | 11:15 |
| eagles0513875 | also you need the connection to download any updates there might be since the cd was created | 11:15 |
| Dracari | im going to first see if this is whats techincally blocking ethernet under lucid. | 11:16 |
| Dracari | if nada i'll boot back up the karmic CD | 11:16 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 11:16 |
| psycho_oreos | what was the wifi chipset for curious sake? | 11:18 |
| Dracari | 4318 | 11:19 |
| psycho_oreos | ahh | 11:20 |
| Dracari | brb moving laptop to the 2wire | 11:21 |
| Dracari | either it was the Cable or the Router | 11:24 |
| Dracari | it has connection in Lucid via ethernet | 11:24 |
| Dracari | brb while i get it to install wireless drivers | 11:25 |
| Cael2 | on the laptop now | 11:29 |
| Cael2 | it installed the driver however | 11:30 |
| Balsaq | nice... | 11:30 |
| Cael2 | it now says for wireless "Device not ready" | 11:30 |
| Cael2 | that mean i need to restart? | 11:30 |
| Balsaq | prolly | 11:30 |
| Balsaq | gonna need eagles | 11:30 |
| psycho_oreos | make sure you configure it with network manager, I've said that twice now | 11:30 |
| Cael2 | well thats what network manager is saying psycho_oreos | 11:31 |
| Cael2 | for wireless that is | 11:31 |
| psycho_oreos | !broadcom | 11:31 |
| ubottu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 11:31 |
| psycho_oreos | did you follow fw-cutter steps? | 11:31 |
| Cael2 | i had the Hardware Drivers thing do its job. | 11:31 |
| Cael2 | the one that comes up when theres Restricted Drivers available | 11:32 |
| psycho_oreos | pastebin (not paste) your dmesg output | 11:32 |
| Cael2 | http://pastebin.com/fC7iXxKh | 11:34 |
| Cael2 | and man i need to dust out my file/web server im next to.. its filthy! (i got a lil server running CentOS acting as a web and file server thats directly connected to the 2wire :P) | 11:36 |
| psycho_oreos | apparently you haven't followed the !broadcom guide | 11:36 |
| psycho_oreos | you'll need to do that, installing the firmware, the firmware is missing | 11:36 |
| Cael2 | then the lil Hardware Drivers thing missed something. | 11:37 |
| psycho_oreos | which version? | 11:37 |
| Cael2 | the one that came w/ Lucid | 11:39 |
| Cael2 | under Applications --System--Hardware Drivers | 11:39 |
| Cael2 | thats how i first installed the drivers when i moved the laptop over here | 11:39 |
| psycho_oreos | probably under lucid the hardware drivers program cannot handle it or the command of installing it must be manually invoked | 11:41 |
| Cael2 | followed the broadcom guide upto where i neede dto do sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source it ran it it did what i needed to when i got to bring up Hardware Drivers it said something " a diffrent driver version is installed" | 11:44 |
| psycho_oreos | you're following the wrong part of the guide | 11:44 |
| psycho_oreos | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Internet%20Access | 11:45 |
| Cael2 | ok now it says b43-fwcutter is allready the newest version" | 11:47 |
| psycho_oreos | check under /lib/firmware for a directory called b43 and inside that directory, it contains files ending with .fw | 11:48 |
| Cael2 | i see alot of files | 11:49 |
| psycho_oreos | ending with .fw? | 11:49 |
| Cael2 | yes | 11:49 |
| psycho_oreos | how is this wireless card connected? | 11:50 |
| Cael2 | its not im still connected via Wired | 11:50 |
| psycho_oreos | I mean hardware connections, is it PCI or is it PCMCIA? | 11:50 |
| Cael2 | NetworkManager still says for the wifi "device not ready" | 11:50 |
| Cael2 | ohh | 11:50 |
| Cael2 | Built in | 11:50 |
| psycho_oreos | hmm ok, so its PCI, I'd try removing b43 and ssb modules, and reload them again | 11:51 |
| Cael2 | how would i go about that? | 11:51 |
| psycho_oreos | sudo modprobe -r {b43,ssb} && sudo modprobe b43 | 11:52 |
| Cael2 | "FATAL: Module ssb is in use" | 11:52 |
| psycho_oreos | lsmod| grep b43 | 11:53 |
| Cael2 | ok | 11:54 |
| psycho_oreos | did that return anything? | 11:58 |
| Cael2 | no | 11:58 |
| psycho_oreos | sudo modprobe b43 | 11:58 |
| Cael2 | that worked.. its now seeing Wireless AP's | 11:59 |
| psycho_oreos | and you should be able to connect and all now | 11:59 |
| Cael2 | yep ^^ | 12:00 |
| Cael2 | one last thing before i shut this down and move it back to my bedroom. | 12:00 |
| Cael2 | my PPC iMac (G4) the wireless drivers are installed but... | 12:01 |
| Cael2 | be it protected or unprotected AP's it wont connect | 12:01 |
| psycho_oreos | probably the same issue if under linux, missing firmware | 12:01 |
| Cael2 | its a Apple Wifi card | 12:02 |
| Cael2 | i cant exactly tell if you'd call it PCI or PCMCIA | 12:02 |
| Cael2 | as theres an PCMCIA liek adapter on the bottom of the mac. | 12:02 |
| Cael2 | and its stuck using Low graphics mode | 12:03 |
| Cael2 | (says something about unable to find an proper framebuffer device) | 12:03 |
| psycho_oreos | afaik Apple loves to use broadcrap chipset (the same that you're using right now to get that wireless working) | 12:03 |
| psycho_oreos | probably missing drivers | 12:03 |
| Cael2 | (but it has an ATI Rage PRO 128 TL | 12:03 |
| psycho_oreos | yeah you'll need to use the ati driver under xorg | 12:04 |
| Cael2 | i dont recall the Exact lspci listing for the Wireless card but comething GMAC wa slisted | 12:04 |
| psycho_oreos | can't help if you aren't specific, just hardware your imac for the time being | 12:06 |
| psycho_oreos | hardwire* | 12:06 |
| Cael2 | oddly... | 12:10 |
| Cael2 | it had the same issue as before. | 12:10 |
| Cael2 | i'll try swapping Ethernet cables. | 12:10 |
| Cael2 | bet ya the cable i was using is Bad | 12:10 |
| psycho_oreos | if the cable was bad, you won't see it light up on either from the port its connected to or the switch/router, etc | 12:11 |
| psycho_oreos | and mii-tool would not yield anything about it being link ok | 12:11 |
| Cael2 | well i noticed Exactly that | 12:11 |
| Cael2 | and brb moving the laptop cant stand any longer. (i have no chair by the 2wire and having 3 ruptured discs in my back standing this time i'm in terrible pain. | 12:12 |
| Dracari | back | 12:18 |
| Dracari | well | 12:20 |
| Dracari | its not working now.. i hope i dont haveto manually do the modprobe b43 every time -_- | 12:21 |
| psycho_oreos | so you did modprobe b43 to make it work? | 12:24 |
| Dracari | yes | 12:24 |
| psycho_oreos | probably because you're using lucid that's why | 12:24 |
| Dracari | is there a way to make that happen automaticly on boot? | 12:24 |
| psycho_oreos | add it into /etc/rc.conf | 12:24 |
| psycho_oreos | err /etc/rc.local | 12:24 |
| Dracari | add it before or after "exit 0"? | 12:29 |
| psycho_oreos | before | 12:29 |
| Dracari | well psycho_oreos i see why i wasnt getting a response from the ethernet ealier.. | 12:47 |
| Dracari | blasted cable is Bad | 12:47 |
| psycho_oreos | Dracari, lol | 12:48 |
| Dracari | the iMac and laptop are now grabbing updates | 12:48 |
| Dracari | i could of saved myself and everyone So much hassle by checking that in the first place -_- | 12:49 |
| psycho_oreos | and you can rule out of the machines being faulty :) | 12:49 |
| psycho_oreos | or linux for that matter | 12:49 |
| Dracari | as an old saying goes | 12:50 |
| Dracari | "User Error" | 12:50 |
| Dracari | all thast left is to install the ATI Drivers | 12:53 |
| Dracari | for the iMac | 12:53 |
| Dracari | well psycho_oreos im going to bed i have yet to.. Night :3 | 13:20 |
| === Dracari is now known as Dracari|sleepin | ||
| psycho_oreos | Dracari, nite nite | 13:20 |
| ircipimp | does xubuntu lucid still rely on dbus to launch gnome-keyring-daemon? | 17:22 |
| ircipimp | because here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/357346 it says so | 17:22 |
| ircipimp | BUT | 17:22 |
| ircipimp | http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/RunningDaemon | 17:22 |
| ircipimp | This suggests, that when started by DBUS the keyring-daemon only has limited functionality and especially no ssh-agent and key storage | 17:23 |
| ircipimp | so i suspect, that xfce4-session relies on dbus, which causes the keyring-daemon to come up crippled | 17:24 |
| ircipimp | the keyring daemon has 3 startup services in /etc/xdg/autostart which get started, but whose printed variables are not added to the environment by eval/export | 17:29 |
| ircipimp | ok, i filed a bug: #564831 | 17:54 |
| ircipimp | maybe one will take notive | 17:54 |
| ircipimp | -v+c | 17:54 |
| Arpad2 | hello | 18:01 |
| Arpad2 | is it possible to burn multisession disk with brasero? | 18:02 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | Hello Sysi my metal friend :-) | 18:55 |
| Sysi | ugh, that reminds me of 'teräsbetoni' | 18:57 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | whats that? | 19:06 |
| * Sachse_Siechtum gives Sysi some german chocolate | 19:07 | |
| Sysi | oh man | 19:08 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | hmmm? What. | 19:08 |
| Sysi | some day i'll want to find woman that knows that well what i want | 19:10 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | Sysi, There is no such woman | 19:10 |
| Sysi | propably | 19:11 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | Women do what they want, and manipulate men, so they think its actually what they want | 19:11 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | so for example: | 19:12 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | when I guys walk around in his old worn out leather jacket (i.e. me) and the girlfriend says: this jacket looks so old..why dont you buy a new one?" | 19:12 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | first the guy will say "no I like this jacket its comfy." | 19:13 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | but the gf will repeat her mantra...sweet and between other sentences like: "I gonna buy some clothes. You wanna get a new leather jacket?" | 19:14 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | til the boyfriend finally gives in. | 19:14 |
| Sysi | boyfriend still can notice that new jacket is very comfy | 19:15 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | True. But the new jacket will never be that comfy like the old one. | 19:16 |
| Sysi | i've never had more that few years old clothes.. | 19:17 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | See. How man shoes do you got? | 19:17 |
| Sysi | you mean _all_ shoes? | 19:18 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | yes | 19:18 |
| Sysi | six | 19:18 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | all shoes...well except the ones you wear at home *g* | 19:18 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | ah | 19:23 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | well and I bet they are all comfy... | 19:23 |
| Sysi | they do ♥ | 19:25 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | see | 19:25 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | mine, too (well except for the 30 holes boots..but thats a different story) so women go more for the "looks factor" when they go out. another thing I dont get: When a woman sees another woman who wears the same dress....and the first woman freaks out. Why is that? | 19:27 |
| Sysi | you should ask some woman, but i think that's one of things where 'women logic' really is best explanation | 19:32 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | I know why: Because the woman thinks that the other woman looks better in that dress and that all her "beauty making" effort was in vain. | 19:33 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | and the other woman thinks the same | 19:34 |
| Sysi | i can agree with that | 19:34 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | *g* :-) | 19:36 |
| Sysi | afk → moped | 19:37 |
| polimatyu | How do I restart my xfce menus? I've restarted xfce4-panel, and it's visible, but I don't have menus. | 20:37 |
| === Dracari|sleepin is now known as Dracari | ||
| mccool_1985 | hi all | 21:20 |
| Fish-Face | I'm looking for a xubuntu .img file of the beta - is this available anywhere? | 21:34 |
| Sysi | for what you'd need it? | 21:34 |
| Fish-Face | installing xubuntu from a USB drive | 21:34 |
| Sysi | use unetbootin or usb-creator? | 21:35 |
| Fish-Face | using dd :/ | 21:35 |
| Fish-Face | usb-creator just seems to break | 21:35 |
| mccool_1985 | usb-creator is my best option i guess | 21:35 |
| mccool_1985 | depends from where you want to create the image... linux? | 21:35 |
| mccool_1985 | i never had problems with usb-creator | 21:36 |
| Sysi | what os you're having now? | 21:36 |
| Fish-Face | 9.10 | 21:36 |
| Fish-Face | Is there no such image available, then? | 21:36 |
| mccool_1985 | if you have a hanging usb-creator, try to turn of any usb external hdds first | 21:36 |
| mccool_1985 | no | 21:36 |
| Sysi | usb-creator should work, it worked for me | 21:36 |
| mccool_1985 | only iso | 21:36 |
| Fish-Face | It would hang, but I have no other USB drives | 21:37 |
| Sysi | have you tried to loa image again? | 21:37 |
| Fish-Face | does usb-creator install to the device or to the partition? | 21:37 |
| Fish-Face | both are listed | 21:37 |
| Sysi | partition | 21:37 |
| Sysi | ext2 or fat32 | 21:38 |
| Fish-Face | I presume it puts an MBR on there by itself? | 21:38 |
| Sysi | propably | 21:38 |
| Fish-Face | nope, usb-creator just hangs again | 21:39 |
| Fish-Face | as soon as I pick the image | 21:39 |
| Sysi | interesting | 21:39 |
| Fish-Face | every so often the compiz "not working" effect lifts from the window, but immediately comes back | 21:39 |
| Fish-Face | I'm on Ubuntu 9.10, rather than Xubuntu, btw | 21:39 |
| Sysi | that shouldn't matter | 21:40 |
| Fish-Face | ofc | 21:40 |
| Sysi | and we propably aren't that strict here | 21:40 |
| Sysi | try unetbootin? | 21:40 |
| Fish-Face | No, I only popped in here because I was looking for a Xubuntu image | 21:40 |
| Fish-Face | nope | 21:41 |
| Fish-Face | hmm, hitting ^C while usb-creator mucked about seemed to help o_0 | 21:42 |
| Fish-Face | it got further anyway | 21:42 |
| Fish-Face | OK something weird is going on with my machine | 21:46 |
| Fish-Face | ls ~ is hanging | 21:47 |
| Fish-Face | this is not to do with usb-creator, I feel | 21:47 |
| Fish-Face | ~$ ls | 21:47 |
| Fish-Face | ls: cannot access tmp: Host is down | 21:47 |
| Fish-Face | tmp being a file in ~ | 21:47 |
| Fish-Face | an errant CIFS mount | 21:51 |
| polimatyu | How do I restart my xfce menus? I've restarted xfce4-panel, and it's visible, but I don't have menus. | 22:14 |
| _Techie_ | !panels | 22:15 |
| ubottu | Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 22:15 |
| _Techie_ | so thats of no help? | 22:15 |
| polimatyu | sorry, huge delay due to swap issues | 22:24 |
| polimatyu | _Techie_: that's what I meant when I said I'd restarted xfce4-panel. | 22:25 |
| polimatyu | TheIt is running; I can see it, but I don't have an applications or places menu. | 22:27 |
| _Techie_ | okay | 22:27 |
| _Techie_ | Sysi, you around? | 22:28 |
| Dracari | there any guides in prepping a fully installed and updated xubuntu for PXE Network boot? | 22:43 |
| Dracari | as i wanna put some yyse into my old compaq laptop where the hdd is gone | 22:44 |
| Dracari | *use | 22:45 |
| polimatyu | back in a few | 22:46 |
| _Techie_ | !ltsp | 22:52 |
| ubottu | LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project | 22:52 |
| Dracari | :3 | 22:52 |
| _Techie_ | there are ways you can load an entire LiveCD into RAM using PXE but they are more complicated | 22:53 |
| Dracari | well i mean as a Full OS | 22:53 |
| Dracari | i've seen it done w/ Winblows XP | 22:53 |
| Dracari | over a gigabit network | 22:53 |
| _Techie_ | you dont ahve to use that term around me, im a windows user | 22:53 |
| Dracari | it was done here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq6dQ_XefmM | 22:55 |
| _Techie_ | dangit, gimma a few mins to install flash | 22:55 |
| Dracari | ok | 22:55 |
| _Techie_ | this is a pretty fresh install of ubuntu im running | 22:55 |
| _Techie_ | and i may not be running it for long | 22:55 |
| _Techie_ | you got experience with xorg.conf? | 22:56 |
| Dracari | not much | 22:56 |
| _Techie_ | know whdere the virtual line goes? | 22:56 |
| Dracari | no | 22:57 |
| _Techie_ | dang | 22:57 |
| _Techie_ | i started using linux just before they started to implement autodetection so my knowledge of xorg.conf is limited | 22:57 |
| Dracari | ;-; Heartburn really sucks.. | 23:03 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | heartburn? | 23:11 |
| Dracari | yea i from time to time suffer from heartburn. | 23:14 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | what is heartburn? | 23:15 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | I'm german, sorry. | 23:15 |
| Dracari | basicly stomiache acid comes back up on you thru chest and into the throat. | 23:16 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | ah I see | 23:17 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | like a acid reflux | 23:17 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | an | 23:17 |
| Dracari | yes | 23:17 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | ok | 23:17 |
| Dracari | just as nasty and just as painfull | 23:18 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | yeah that sucks | 23:18 |
| === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage | ||
| Sachse_Siechtum | I was eating some cereal yesterday and I got some bits coming up afterwards...and I was like...WTF? | 23:19 |
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