[05:52] <Dracari> is iot easier tyo Just remove existing Linux partitions before changing to xubuntu? i decided to switch away from PCLinuxOS on my laptop to xubuntu
[05:52] <Dracari> and its a Dell Inspirion 1300
[06:06] <Balsaq> is xubuntu going to be the only OS in that computer when you are done Dracari ?
[06:09] <Dracari> No
[06:10] <Dracari> it dualboot sXP and PCLinuxOS curretly
[06:27] <Balsaq> easier...probably, especially if you can make backups.
[06:28] <Balsaq> just in case.....
[07:16]  * Dracari sighs " its funny.. i gave Up FFXI awhile back but every time i hear a few of the good Tracks from teh various soundtracks to it.. i wonder why i Gave it up..*
[07:16] <Dracari> i wonder how far Wine and DirectX games are these days in Linux.
[07:16] <Dracari> i havent tried to run FFXI PC under Wine since 8.04
[08:44] <Dracari> this app UNetBootin has been handy for x86/x86-64 Installs/liveCD testing :3 Saves me bunch of $$ on CD-R's
[09:13] <Dracari> great.... i haveto manually download and install my Network drivers for my laptop.
[09:13] <Dracari> (wireless is Broadcom based)
[09:14] <Dracari> Great... so is the Eithernet.
[09:49] <Dracari> How can i manually install broadcom drivers -_-both eithernet AND Wireless are broadcom based on this laptop
[09:59] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[09:59] <eagles0513875> was there someone who needed help with broadcom
[09:59] <eagles0513875> wifi
[09:59] <eagles0513875> Balsaq:
[09:59] <eagles0513875> what was his name
[09:59] <Dracari> <---
[10:00] <Dracari> the laptops Eithernet And Wireless are Broadcom
[10:00] <Balsaq> yeah it dracari
[10:00] <eagles0513875> Dracari: can you open up the command line for me
[10:00] <eagles0513875> anythign you do on linux wont effect  windows drivers or anything
[10:01] <eagles0513875> Dracari: can you let me know when you have the commandline open please
[10:01] <Dracari> Wifi 43xx based wired 44xx based
[10:01] <eagles0513875> forget the wired
[10:01] <eagles0513875> Dracari: can i get the exact wifi model please
[10:01] <Dracari> to be precise Wifi is the 4318 and Wired 4401-B0
[10:02] <eagles0513875> Dracari: can you type the following on command line : sudo apt-get install bw43-fwcutter
[10:02] <eagles0513875> then reboot and see if it works
[10:02] <Dracari> Cant
[10:02] <Dracari> its completly Isolated from internet
[10:03] <Dracari> Because Both are Broadcom based requring the cutter in the first place
[10:03] <eagles0513875> when you installed xubuntu did you have the ethernet plugged in ?
[10:03] <Dracari> No
[10:03] <Dracari> and its 10.04 Lucid Lynx beta 2
[10:03] <Balsaq> yikes
[10:03] <eagles0513875> ok can you plug it in to the wired
[10:04] <eagles0513875> Balsaq: not yikes
[10:04] <Balsaq> qool...i be quiet
[10:04] <eagles0513875> Balsaq: its looking quite nice
[10:04] <Balsaq> i see that
[10:04] <eagles0513875> Dracari: can you wire your self up
[10:04] <Dracari> i get Nothing when the Eithernet line is connected
[10:05] <eagles0513875> ok do sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[10:05] <eagles0513875> that will bring the wired network up
[10:05] <eagles0513875> once you do that command do ifconfig
[10:05] <eagles0513875> and let me know if eth0 has an ip
[10:06] <Dracari> doesnt even show even an 127.0.0.1 Ip
[10:06] <eagles0513875> did you do sudo ifconfig eth- up
[10:06] <eagles0513875> eth0 up
[10:06] <Dracari> yes
[10:07] <Dracari> theres nothing showing for eth0  for inet addr Mask or the ipv6  only under lo does it show anything
[10:07] <eagles0513875> ok hold on
[10:10] <eagles0513875> auto eth0
[10:11] <eagles0513875> then
[10:11] <eagles0513875> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:11] <Dracari> got no command 'auto' found
[10:11] <eagles0513875> O_o
[10:11] <eagles0513875> sounds like an incomplete install
[10:12] <Dracari> Installed via USB (UNetBootin) as im low on CD-Rs
[10:12] <eagles0513875> Dracari: do you have any data you need on  xubuntu
[10:12] <eagles0513875> thats ok
[10:12] <eagles0513875> Dracari: then in that case i recommend a reinstall with the ethernet plugged in
[10:12] <Dracari> i havent used xubuntu since 8.04
[10:13] <Dracari> and i ha dit remove and install the previous Distro that was on it. (PCLinuxOS)
[10:13] <Balsaq> they arent even done fixin beta yet eagles0513875
[10:13] <eagles0513875> Balsaq: its due out this month
[10:14] <Dracari> 9.10's installer wasnt detecting XP or even PCLinuxOS on the HDD
[10:14] <Balsaq> i know
[10:14] <Balsaq> noone in devel has metnioned issues with wireless though...
[10:14] <eagles0513875> Dracari: have you tried using karmic to install then upgrading via network from karmic to lucid
[10:14] <Dracari> had the same prob w/ 9.10 and my win7 box it inturn Actually screwed up 7's System partition killing my install of 7.
[10:15] <eagles0513875> Dracari: did dual boot or tried to with 7 and karmic killed my win install
[10:15] <Dracari> Dualboot
[10:15] <eagles0513875> ya it was dual boot
[10:15] <eagles0513875> ended up going back to windows 7 :(
[10:16] <Dracari> i was installing to my 200GB HDD (IDE) while 7 wa son my 500GB sata
[10:16] <eagles0513875> Dracari: same wiht me 500gb on win 7 and 2tb on karmic but fudged something up
[10:16] <Dracari> it wouldnt detect 7 on the sata drive it just saw an active NTFS partition on the sata
[10:16] <Balsaq> ndswrapper?
[10:17] <Dracari> maybe  as to dualbooting 9.10 onward is 7 has a new partition scheming and bootloader than vista
[10:17] <eagles0513875> Dracari: im not sure on that
[10:17] <eagles0513875> Balsaq: what bout it
[10:18] <eagles0513875> Dracari: if you do a reinstall with ethernet plugged it its possible that the wifi driver the reverse engineer open source driver
[10:18] <Balsaq> isnt that how you get a windows/linux machine  running wireless?
[10:18] <Dracari> but back to the dell lappy. the incomplete install theory has some merit.
[10:18] <eagles0513875> if not the driver you want is the bw43-fwcutter
[10:18] <eagles0513875> Balsaq: you dont need it anymore
[10:18] <Dracari> in the live CD
[10:18] <eagles0513875> Dracari: how so
[10:18] <Dracari> err USB, it said there was restricted Drivers avilable. and it needed to download and install the fwcutter
[10:18] <Dracari> its not doing that post install.
[10:19] <eagles0513875> you can do it via commandline
[10:19] <eagles0513875> but if u dont have ethernet
[10:19] <Dracari> if it matters m,uch the laptop model is Inspirion 1300
[10:19] <eagles0513875> u would need to reinstall with the ethernet plugged in
[10:19] <eagles0513875> that way it can pull it during install
[10:20] <Dracari> ok i still have the usb drive set as a LiveUSB
[10:21]  * Dracari fidgets thru 15 lookalike pendrives
[10:21] <eagles0513875> Dracari:  ok ill be back after this lecture when i relocate to see if everything is working for ya
[10:21] <eagles0513875> hehe i have an old 4gb pen drive which i use as install
[10:21] <eagles0513875> usbg
[10:21] <eagles0513875> usbs
[10:21] <Dracari> i have a modded Wii where i load my own backed up games via USB
[10:22] <Dracari> usefull since the Drive in it is wearing out.
[10:22] <eagles0513875> nice
[10:22] <Dracari> it no longer reads GC discs so its a matter of time before its totally shot
[10:23] <Dracari> cant complain.. got it for 10$ from my cousin.
[10:23] <eagles0513875> sounds like a bad drive
[10:23] <Dracari> yea i got a 2nd wii from a pawnshop but the two are an Ironic Pair
[10:23] <Dracari> (2nd one for 30$ w/ extra set of cables)
[10:23] <eagles0513875> nice
[10:24] <Dracari> the 2nd one..... cant read DVD Discs only GC discs
[10:24] <eagles0513875> ill be back
[10:24] <eagles0513875> to check on how the reinstall went
[10:24] <Dracari> imm going to tell teh installer to Just reuse and reformat the old install's partitions
[10:24] <eagles0513875> thats fine
[10:24] <eagles0513875> im gonna relocate and ill be back asap
[10:25] <Dracari> eithernet is plugge din however
[10:25] <Dracari> showing Eithernet is Disconnected
[10:27] <knome> ethernet
[10:35] <Dracari> well . i may as well muck with my DS till eagles is back.
[10:35] <Dracari> as even under LiveUSB w/ eithernet connected there sstill no internet access
[10:35] <Dracari> **ethernet
[10:43] <Dracari> wb Balsaq
[10:44] <Balsaq> i know what was that
[10:44] <Dracari> it said you timed out
[10:44] <Balsaq> hmmm
[10:46] <eagles0513875> Balsaq:
[10:46] <eagles0513875> there he is nm
[10:47] <eagles0513875> Dracari: how are things going
[10:47] <Dracari> wb eagles0513875 and i didnt start i booted into the LiveUSB and Ethernet is Still down
[10:48] <eagles0513875> humm
[10:48] <eagles0513875> Dracari: did you have this issue with karmic
[10:48] <Dracari> No
[10:48] <eagles0513875> Dracari: then do this install karmic then do the upgrade from karmic to lucid
[10:49] <Dracari> i have a live CD but i'll double check
[10:50] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:51] <Dracari> can the Upgrade be done from the LiveUSBfor Lucid or hasto be done via upgrade in apt-get/yum ?
[10:52] <eagles0513875> !upgrade
[10:52] <eagles0513875> see the 2nd link i think it can be done using usb im not sure
[10:52] <Dracari> because its going to take close to an hr and ahalf via internet as i only have a 1.5mb dsl.
[10:52] <eagles0513875> normally i just use the internet
[10:58] <Dracari> unless my karmic cd is scratched its taking a Highly long time to boot -_-
[10:58] <eagles0513875> O_o
[10:58] <eagles0513875> depends on ur system specs
[10:58] <Dracari> the boot time from usb on lucid was less than 2 mins
[10:58] <eagles0513875> cd is always slower the usb
[10:58] <eagles0513875> speed wise
[10:59] <Dracari> Karmic reporting Wired network is down. >_<
[10:59] <Dracari> the closet i have left on CD is 7.04 (my 8.10 cd is too damaged)
[10:59] <eagles0513875> wait
[11:00] <eagles0513875> try this
[11:00] <eagles0513875> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[11:00] <eagles0513875> and check to make sure its plugged in on both the router as well as laptop end
[11:00] <psycho_oreos> you can check that via mii-tools
[11:01] <Dracari> hmmmm Maybe...
[11:01]  * Dracari is thinking..
[11:01] <eagles0513875> Dracari: did sudo ifconfig eth0 up bring anything up?
[11:01] <Dracari> the router its connected to is a DD-WRT enabled linksys
[11:02] <Dracari> and is under Repater mode
[11:02] <Dracari> *Repeater
[11:02] <eagles0513875> thats why
[11:02] <eagles0513875> most likely
[11:02] <eagles0513875> probably have to change it to router
[11:02] <Dracari> eth0 is like before showing Nothing for inet addr for etho only for lo
[11:02] <psycho_oreos> you use dhclient for that
[11:02] <Dracari> i wonder if Repeater bridge would work.
[11:03] <eagles0513875> Dracari: try what psycho_oreos said try using dhclient to see if u can get an ip using dhcp
[11:03] <Dracari> the Main DSL Modem (2wire gateway) is in the other end of the trailer
[11:04] <eagles0513875> humm
[11:04] <eagles0513875> Dracari: whats ur network setup so i can get an idea of the layout
[11:05] <Dracari> dhclient is spamming " DHCPDISCVER on eth0  to 255.255.255.255 on port 67 interval 16    send_packet: Network is down
[11:05] <psycho_oreos> Dracari, sounds like networkmanager is interfering with the operations if its running
[11:06] <Dracari> 2Wire Gate = Modem and Router ---- DD-wrt router connected atm as Repeater to make teh connectionover in my bedroom however this pc is connecte dwirelessly to the 2wire
[11:06] <Dracari> i dont have an *ethernet line long enough to streach over
[11:07] <eagles0513875> O_O wirelessly to the wire
[11:07] <eagles0513875> can u get closer to the cable
[11:07] <Dracari> yes i can connect the lappy to the 2wire modem
[11:09] <Dracari> the network in terms of client: Net source : 2wire -- Clients "Windows7 Box"(wirelessly) "BrotherPC" (wired to 2wire) "UNKNOWNID:[dd-wrt router] (Wirelessly) Xbox 1 (wired-dd-wrt) Wii's (Wirelessly to 2wire) Laptop:Wireles sto 2wire under XP/ Wired or Wireless to dd-wrt when i nee dto change AP's)
[11:09] <Dracari> if that makes any sense
[11:09] <Dracari> and brb nature calls.
[11:12] <Dracari> back
[11:14] <eagles0513875> Dracari:
[11:15] <eagles0513875> we need to temporarily wire urself to ur connection so you can download the wifi driver
[11:15] <eagles0513875> you understanding what im getting at
[11:15] <Dracari> yea im shutting it down now to move it
[11:15] <eagles0513875> also you need the connection to download any updates there might be since the cd was created
[11:16] <Dracari> im going to first see if this is whats techincally blocking ethernet under lucid.
[11:16] <Dracari> if nada i'll boot back up the karmic CD
[11:16] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:18] <psycho_oreos> what was the wifi chipset for curious sake?
[11:19] <Dracari> 4318
[11:20] <psycho_oreos> ahh
[11:21] <Dracari> brb moving laptop to the 2wire
[11:24] <Dracari> either it was the Cable or the Router
[11:24] <Dracari> it has connection in Lucid via ethernet
[11:25] <Dracari> brb while i get it to install wireless drivers
[11:29] <Cael2> on the laptop now
[11:30] <Cael2> it installed the driver however
[11:30] <Balsaq> nice...
[11:30] <Cael2> it now says for wireless "Device not ready"
[11:30] <Cael2> that mean i need to restart?
[11:30] <Balsaq> prolly
[11:30] <Balsaq> gonna need eagles
[11:30] <psycho_oreos> make sure you configure it with network manager, I've said that twice now
[11:31] <Cael2> well thats what network manager is saying psycho_oreos
[11:31] <Cael2> for wireless that is
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> !broadcom
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> did you follow fw-cutter steps?
[11:31] <Cael2> i had the Hardware Drivers thing do its job.
[11:32] <Cael2> the one that comes up when theres Restricted Drivers available
[11:32] <psycho_oreos> pastebin (not paste) your dmesg output
[11:34] <Cael2> http://pastebin.com/fC7iXxKh
[11:36] <Cael2> and man i need to dust out my file/web server im next to.. its filthy! (i got a lil server running CentOS acting as a web and file server thats directly connected to the 2wire :P)
[11:36] <psycho_oreos> apparently you haven't followed the !broadcom guide
[11:36] <psycho_oreos> you'll need to do that, installing the firmware, the firmware is missing
[11:37] <Cael2> then the lil Hardware Drivers thing missed something.
[11:37] <psycho_oreos> which version?
[11:39] <Cael2> the one that came w/ Lucid
[11:39] <Cael2> under Applications --System--Hardware Drivers
[11:39] <Cael2> thats how i first installed the drivers when i moved the laptop over here
[11:41] <psycho_oreos> probably under lucid the hardware drivers program cannot handle it or the command of installing it must be manually invoked
[11:44] <Cael2> followed the broadcom guide upto where i neede dto do sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source it ran it it did what i needed to when i got to bring up Hardware Drivers it said something " a diffrent driver version is installed"
[11:44] <psycho_oreos> you're following the wrong part of the guide
[11:45] <psycho_oreos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Internet%20Access
[11:47] <Cael2> ok now it says b43-fwcutter is allready the newest version"
[11:48] <psycho_oreos> check under /lib/firmware for a directory called b43 and inside that directory, it contains files ending with .fw
[11:49] <Cael2> i see alot of files
[11:49] <psycho_oreos> ending with .fw?
[11:49] <Cael2> yes
[11:50] <psycho_oreos> how is this wireless card connected?
[11:50] <Cael2> its not im still connected via Wired
[11:50] <psycho_oreos> I mean hardware connections, is it PCI or is it PCMCIA?
[11:50] <Cael2> NetworkManager still says  for the wifi "device not ready"
[11:50] <Cael2> ohh
[11:50] <Cael2> Built in
[11:51] <psycho_oreos> hmm ok, so its PCI, I'd try removing b43 and ssb modules, and reload them again
[11:51] <Cael2> how would i go about that?
[11:52] <psycho_oreos> sudo modprobe -r {b43,ssb} && sudo modprobe b43
[11:52] <Cael2> "FATAL: Module ssb is in use"
[11:53] <psycho_oreos> lsmod| grep b43
[11:54] <Cael2> ok
[11:58] <psycho_oreos> did that return anything?
[11:58] <Cael2> no
[11:58] <psycho_oreos> sudo modprobe b43
[11:59] <Cael2> that worked.. its now seeing Wireless AP's
[11:59] <psycho_oreos> and you should be able to connect and all now
[12:00] <Cael2> yep ^^
[12:00] <Cael2> one last thing before i shut this down and move it back to my bedroom.
[12:01] <Cael2> my PPC iMac (G4) the wireless drivers are installed but...
[12:01] <Cael2> be it protected or unprotected AP's it wont connect
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> probably the same issue if under linux, missing firmware
[12:02] <Cael2> its a Apple Wifi card
[12:02] <Cael2> i cant exactly tell if you'd call it PCI or PCMCIA
[12:02] <Cael2> as theres an PCMCIA liek adapter on the bottom of the mac.
[12:03] <Cael2> and its stuck using Low graphics mode
[12:03] <Cael2> (says something about unable to find an proper framebuffer device)
[12:03] <psycho_oreos> afaik Apple loves to use broadcrap chipset (the same that you're using right now to get that wireless working)
[12:03] <psycho_oreos> probably missing drivers
[12:03] <Cael2> (but it has an ATI Rage PRO 128 TL
[12:04] <psycho_oreos> yeah you'll need to use the ati driver under xorg
[12:04] <Cael2> i dont recall the Exact lspci listing for the Wireless card but comething GMAC wa slisted
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> can't help if you aren't specific, just hardware your imac for the time being
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> hardwire*
[12:10] <Cael2> oddly...
[12:10] <Cael2> it had the same issue as before.
[12:10] <Cael2> i'll try swapping Ethernet cables.
[12:10] <Cael2> bet ya the cable i was using is Bad
[12:11] <psycho_oreos> if the cable was bad, you won't see it light up on either from the port its connected to or the switch/router, etc
[12:11] <psycho_oreos> and mii-tool would not yield anything about it being link ok
[12:11] <Cael2> well i noticed Exactly that
[12:12] <Cael2> and brb moving the laptop cant stand any longer. (i have no chair by the 2wire and having 3 ruptured discs in my back standing this time i'm in terrible pain.
[12:18] <Dracari> back
[12:20] <Dracari> well
[12:21] <Dracari> its not working now.. i hope i dont haveto manually do the modprobe b43 every time -_-
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> so you did modprobe b43 to make it work?
[12:24] <Dracari> yes
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> probably because you're using lucid that's why
[12:24] <Dracari> is there a way to make that happen automaticly on boot?
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> add it into /etc/rc.conf
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> err /etc/rc.local
[12:29] <Dracari> add it before or after "exit 0"?
[12:29] <psycho_oreos> before
[12:47] <Dracari> well psycho_oreos i see why i wasnt getting a response from the ethernet ealier..
[12:47] <Dracari> blasted cable is Bad
[12:48] <psycho_oreos> Dracari, lol
[12:48] <Dracari> the iMac and laptop are now grabbing updates
[12:49] <Dracari> i could of saved myself and everyone So much hassle by checking that in the first place -_-
[12:49] <psycho_oreos> and you can rule out of the machines being faulty :)
[12:49] <psycho_oreos> or linux for that matter
[12:50] <Dracari> as an old saying goes
[12:50] <Dracari> "User Error"
[12:53] <Dracari> all thast left is to install the ATI Drivers
[12:53] <Dracari> for the iMac
[13:20] <Dracari> well psycho_oreos im going to bed i have yet to.. Night :3
[13:20] <psycho_oreos> Dracari, nite nite
[17:22] <ircipimp> does xubuntu lucid still rely on dbus to launch gnome-keyring-daemon?
[17:22] <ircipimp> because  here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/357346 it says so
[17:22] <ircipimp> BUT
[17:22] <ircipimp> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/RunningDaemon
[17:23] <ircipimp> This suggests, that when started by DBUS the keyring-daemon only has limited functionality and especially no ssh-agent and key storage
[17:24] <ircipimp> so i suspect, that xfce4-session relies on dbus, which causes the keyring-daemon to come up crippled
[17:29] <ircipimp> the keyring daemon has 3 startup services in /etc/xdg/autostart which get started, but whose printed variables are not added to the environment by eval/export
[17:54] <ircipimp> ok, i filed a bug: #564831
[17:54] <ircipimp> maybe one will take notive
[17:54] <ircipimp> -v+c
[18:01] <Arpad2> hello
[18:02] <Arpad2> is it possible to burn  multisession disk with brasero?
[18:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello Sysi my metal friend :-)
[18:57] <Sysi> ugh, that reminds me of 'teräsbetoni'
[19:06] <Sachse_Siechtum> whats that?
[19:07]  * Sachse_Siechtum gives Sysi some german chocolate
[19:08] <Sysi> oh man
[19:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmmm? What.
[19:10] <Sysi> some day i'll want to find woman that knows that well what i want
[19:10] <Sachse_Siechtum> Sysi, There is no such woman
[19:11] <Sysi> propably
[19:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> Women do what they want, and manipulate men, so they think its actually what they want
[19:12] <Sachse_Siechtum> so for example:
[19:12] <Sachse_Siechtum> when I guys walk around in his old worn out leather jacket (i.e. me) and the girlfriend says: this jacket looks so old..why dont you buy a new one?"
[19:13] <Sachse_Siechtum> first the guy will say "no I like this jacket its comfy."
[19:14] <Sachse_Siechtum> but the gf will repeat her mantra...sweet and between other sentences like: "I gonna buy some clothes. You wanna get a new leather jacket?"
[19:14] <Sachse_Siechtum> til the boyfriend finally gives in.
[19:15] <Sysi> boyfriend still can notice that new jacket is very comfy
[19:16] <Sachse_Siechtum> True. But the new jacket will never be that comfy like the old one.
[19:17] <Sysi> i've never had more that few years old clothes..
[19:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> See. How man shoes do you got?
[19:18] <Sysi> you mean _all_ shoes?
[19:18] <Sachse_Siechtum> yes
[19:18] <Sysi> six
[19:18] <Sachse_Siechtum> all shoes...well except the ones you wear at home *g*
[19:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah
[19:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> well and I bet they are all comfy...
[19:25] <Sysi> they do ♥
[19:25] <Sachse_Siechtum> see
[19:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> mine, too (well except for the 30 holes boots..but thats a different story) so women go more for the "looks factor" when they go out. another thing I dont get: When a woman sees another woman who wears the same dress....and the first woman freaks out. Why is that?
[19:32] <Sysi> you should ask some woman, but i think that's one of things where 'women logic' really is best explanation
[19:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> I know why: Because the woman thinks that the other woman looks better in that dress and that all her "beauty making" effort was in vain.
[19:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> and the other woman thinks the same
[19:34] <Sysi> i can agree with that
[19:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> *g* :-)
[19:37] <Sysi> afk → moped
[20:37] <polimatyu> How do I restart my xfce menus?  I've restarted xfce4-panel, and it's visible, but I don't have menus.
[21:20] <mccool_1985> hi all
[21:34] <Fish-Face> I'm looking for a xubuntu .img file of the beta - is this available anywhere?
[21:34] <Sysi> for what you'd need it?
[21:34] <Fish-Face> installing xubuntu from a USB drive
[21:35] <Sysi> use unetbootin or usb-creator?
[21:35] <Fish-Face> using dd :/
[21:35] <Fish-Face> usb-creator just seems to break
[21:35] <mccool_1985> usb-creator is my best option i guess
[21:35] <mccool_1985> depends from where you want to create the image... linux?
[21:36] <mccool_1985> i never had problems with usb-creator
[21:36] <Sysi> what os you're having now?
[21:36] <Fish-Face> 9.10
[21:36] <Fish-Face> Is there no such image available, then?
[21:36] <mccool_1985> if you have a hanging usb-creator, try to turn of any usb external hdds first
[21:36] <mccool_1985> no
[21:36] <Sysi> usb-creator should work, it worked for me
[21:36] <mccool_1985> only iso
[21:37] <Fish-Face> It would hang, but I have no other USB drives
[21:37] <Sysi> have you tried to loa image again?
[21:37] <Fish-Face> does usb-creator install to the device or to the partition?
[21:37] <Fish-Face> both are listed
[21:37] <Sysi> partition
[21:38] <Sysi> ext2 or fat32
[21:38] <Fish-Face> I presume it puts an MBR on there by itself?
[21:38] <Sysi> propably
[21:39] <Fish-Face> nope, usb-creator just hangs again
[21:39] <Fish-Face> as soon as I pick the image
[21:39] <Sysi> interesting
[21:39] <Fish-Face> every so often the compiz "not working" effect lifts from the window, but immediately comes back
[21:39] <Fish-Face> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10, rather than Xubuntu, btw
[21:40] <Sysi> that shouldn't matter
[21:40] <Fish-Face> ofc
[21:40] <Sysi> and we propably aren't that strict here
[21:40] <Sysi> try unetbootin?
[21:40] <Fish-Face> No, I only popped in here because I was looking for a Xubuntu image
[21:41] <Fish-Face> nope
[21:42] <Fish-Face> hmm, hitting ^C while usb-creator mucked about seemed to help o_0
[21:42] <Fish-Face> it got further anyway
[21:46] <Fish-Face> OK something weird is going on with my machine
[21:47] <Fish-Face> ls ~ is hanging
[21:47] <Fish-Face> this is not to do with usb-creator, I feel
[21:47] <Fish-Face> ~$ ls
[21:47] <Fish-Face> ls: cannot access tmp: Host is down
[21:47] <Fish-Face> tmp being a file in ~
[21:51] <Fish-Face> an errant CIFS mount
[22:14] <polimatyu> How do I restart my xfce menus?  I've restarted xfce4-panel, and it's visible, but I don't have menus.
[22:15] <_Techie_> !panels
[22:15] <_Techie_> so thats of no help?
[22:24] <polimatyu> sorry, huge delay due to swap issues
[22:25] <polimatyu> _Techie_: that's what I meant when I said I'd restarted xfce4-panel.
[22:27] <polimatyu> TheIt is running; I can see it, but I don't have an applications or places menu.
[22:27] <_Techie_> okay
[22:28] <_Techie_> Sysi, you around?
[22:43] <Dracari> there any guides in prepping a fully installed and updated xubuntu for PXE Network boot?
[22:44] <Dracari> as i wanna put some yyse into my old compaq laptop where the hdd is gone
[22:45] <Dracari> *use
[22:46] <polimatyu> back in a few
[22:52] <_Techie_> !ltsp
[22:52] <Dracari> :3
[22:53] <_Techie_> there are ways you can load an entire LiveCD into RAM using PXE but they are more complicated
[22:53] <Dracari> well i mean as a Full OS
[22:53] <Dracari> i've seen it done w/ Winblows XP
[22:53] <Dracari> over a gigabit network
[22:53] <_Techie_> you dont ahve to use that term around me, im a windows user
[22:55] <Dracari> it was done here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq6dQ_XefmM
[22:55] <_Techie_> dangit, gimma a few mins to install flash
[22:55] <Dracari> ok
[22:55] <_Techie_> this is a pretty fresh install of ubuntu im running
[22:55] <_Techie_> and i may not be running it for long
[22:56] <_Techie_> you got experience with xorg.conf?
[22:56] <Dracari> not much
[22:56] <_Techie_> know whdere the virtual line goes?
[22:57] <Dracari> no
[22:57] <_Techie_> dang
[22:57] <_Techie_> i started using linux just before they started to implement autodetection so my knowledge of xorg.conf is limited
[23:03] <Dracari> ;-; Heartburn really sucks..
[23:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> heartburn?
[23:14] <Dracari> yea i from time to time suffer from heartburn.
[23:15] <Sachse_Siechtum> what is heartburn?
[23:15] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm german, sorry.
[23:16] <Dracari> basicly stomiache acid comes back up on you thru chest and into the throat.
[23:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah I see
[23:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> like a acid reflux
[23:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> an
[23:17] <Dracari> yes
[23:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok
[23:18] <Dracari> just as nasty and just as painfull
[23:18] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah that sucks
[23:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> I was eating some cereal yesterday and I got some bits coming up afterwards...and I was like...WTF?