[01:21] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Where did the kdebase patch come from?
[01:22] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: kde svn 1115480
[01:23] <JontheEchidna> would have been nice to have this fix 6 months earlier, when everybody upgraded from 4.2 to 4.3, but at least it's here now
[01:29] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: You tested the fix?
[01:34] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: yes
[01:38] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Accepted.
[01:38]  * ScottK is off again for a while.
[01:39] <JontheEchidna> thanks
[01:48] <nixternal> i hate when i do that...shutdown -h now instead of restart
[01:48] <nixternal> nhandler: how come I cannot connect to freenode with ssl right now?
[01:49] <nixternal> 19:48:20 Irssi: warning None of the Subject Alt Names in the certificate match hostname 'chat.us.freenode.net'
[02:17]  * persia idly notes that the dependency of sbuild on lvm is gone in lucid
[02:20]  * ScottK may have to consider it then.
[02:22] <ScottK> maco: Weren't you already an op?
[02:22] <persia> ScottK: I stopped working on the use-pbuider-chroots-for-schroot-in-sbuild script at FF.  It should be available in maverick, assuming I can dtermine some sanity to how pbuilder stores stuff.
[02:23] <ScottK> OK.  Nice.  Once it's good, we can backport.
[02:26] <persia> It's just a quick script.  The other thing I want to do with pbuilder is add it to http://people.ubuntu.com/~persia/pull-soyuz-chroot (and put that in some useful package)
[02:26] <persia> If you want to do it manually, the basic model is to stick the tarball in the right directory for schroot, and set up a schroot stanza.
[02:27] <persia> Err, schroot.conf stanza.
[02:29] <DarkwingDuck_> mcas: pONG
[02:32] <txwikinger> DarkwingDuck_: mcas is sleeping around this time
[02:32] <DarkwingDuck_> txwikinger: mcas pinged me earlier... Oh well.
[02:41] <maco> ScottK: in #kubuntu yes, but in #ubuntu i wasn't until today
[03:10] <verbalshadow> what do i need to install to make QTHelp work in Kdevelop?
[03:28] <JontheEchidna> verbalshadow: as a guess, you may need the Qt assistant program from qt4-dev-tools
[03:29] <verbalshadow> JontheEchidna: i have qt4-dev-tools , qt4-doc, qt4-doc-html all installed :( no luck
[03:39] <verbalshadow> I have Qt Assistant, qt-doc and qt-doc-html (and qt-dev-tools), google has been no help.  What do i need to get the qthelp plugin working?
[03:50] <ScottK> maco: Oh.  OK.
[03:56] <verbalshadow> oy sorry i just noticed that that i sent that message to the wrong channel
[04:33] <imbrandon> nixternal: i absolutely love you
[04:34] <imbrandon> nixternal: re: offlineimap + mutt
[04:41] <nhandler> imbrandon: Care to blog about your setup. I'm still looking for a decent setup that I can steal
[04:42] <imbrandon> nhandler: sure, i'll do that later tonight
[04:42]  * nhandler hugs imbrandon 
[04:42] <imbrandon> if i can find the time, definately before the weekend is up
[04:44] <imbrandon> JontheEchidna: i noticed you pointed someone having an issue with grub2/grub legacy that reported it against kdebase to KDE upstream
[04:44] <imbrandon> heh
[04:44] <nhandler> imbrandon: No problem. I've been waiting on nixternal a few months. I can wait a few more days
[04:44] <JontheEchidna> imbrandon: It was that Dolphin was using a music icon for the files
[04:44] <imbrandon> nhandler: i'll likely have time tonight, just wanna give myself some breathing room "just in case" :)
[04:45] <imbrandon> dolphin was? hum i must have read the whole thing wrong then
[04:45] <imbrandon> whoops
[04:46] <JontheEchidna> the report header didn't say dolphin, since the user originally reported it against the dolphin source package left over from hardy ;)
[04:47] <imbrandon> ahh
[04:47] <imbrandon> lol
[04:47] <imbrandon> what was the deal with the grub then?
[04:47] <imbrandon> user confusion ?
[04:49] <JontheEchidna> imbrandon: dolphin was showing grub data files that ended in .mod with the music mimetype icon
[04:51] <imbrandon> ohhh so _I'm_ the idiot, i need to read bug reports better
[04:52] <imbrandon> lol
[04:52] <imbrandon> JontheEchidna: :)
[04:52] <JontheEchidna> ;)
[04:52] <JontheEchidna> I almost reassigned it to grub2 the first time I saw it, myself
[05:01]  * JontheEchidna sighs at bug 565180
[05:08] <ScottK> Send them to Rosetta.
[05:27] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: yeah, that's what that bug report is. I'm just sighing at its existence
[05:27] <ScottK> Understand
[05:28] <ScottK> Assign it to dpm and make it critical.
[05:29] <JontheEchidna> I assigned the translation who mucked things up in the first place. I'll subscribe dpm, though
[05:30] <ScottK> apachelogger should blog about it.
[05:31] <JontheEchidna> It'd be nice if we could prevent the editing of upstream translations for KDE source packages...
[05:31] <JontheEchidna> oh well, I'm going to bed now
[07:04]  * ScottK larts JontheEchidna for pointing to the wrong string in Bug #565180 and then goes to bed.
[07:05] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Note that it's now an RC bug.
[08:45] <delight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-4xTkN1_RQ is there any way this can make it into lucid, code is at http://gitorious.org/oskude-plymouth-themes/space-sunrise ... ppa would be nice 2 :)
[10:19] <valorie> delight, that's nice
[10:19] <valorie> I think you have to submit it though
[10:20] <valorie> not mention it in an irc chan!
[10:28] <Riddell> filing a bug and tagging with needs-packaging is the best way
[10:28] <Riddell> but we're too late in the cycle to be adding anything
[10:34] <debfx> the reboot required notification is a bit broken for me: http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8377/notificationreboot.png
[10:37] <Riddell> same here, upstream issue I presume
[10:39] <debfx> yeah, I found the lines responsible for it:
[10:39] <debfx> /FIXME: this sounds wrong
[10:40] <debfx> q->setPreferredHeight(mainLayout->effectiveSizeHint(Qt::MinimumSize).height());
[10:45] <Riddell> widget sizes with word wrap are always broken with Qt
[10:47] <debfx> when I remove that line the notification looks like this: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4169/notificationrebootbig.png
[10:51] <shadeslayer> heh... i have a long list of upgrades.... : http://paste.ubuntu.com/416070/
[11:10] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: no idea on the errors,but if Freitag sends in a patch,ill upload it asap
[11:47] <Riddell> debfx: that seems like an improvement
[11:47] <Riddell> debfx: but I can't help feeling there was probably a reason the author added that line in the first place
[11:49] <debfx> Riddell: the icon isn't aligned to the text anymore
[11:50] <Riddell> oh aye
[12:06]  * debfx should have enabled ccache in pbuilder a long time ago
[13:12] <shadeslayer> is it possible to set webkit as the default view mode for konqueror?
[13:14] <shadeslayer> nvm
[13:29] <shadeslayer> btw is there a bugs.launchpad.net collaboration app? so that i can comment,etc without opening the browser?
[13:30] <nigelbabu> shadeslayer, what do you mean by collaboration app?
[13:30] <shadeslayer> nigelbabu: like we have choqok for twitter/identi.ca
[13:31] <shadeslayer> kbugbuster for bugs.kde
[13:31] <nigelbabu> shadeslayer, Launchpad entirely has an API that you can access
[13:31] <nigelbabu> but AFAIK no gui has been written
[13:31] <shadeslayer> nigelbabu: not a API... a GUI :)
[13:31] <nigelbabu> shadeslayer, no GUI yet
[13:31] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:32] <shadeslayer> nigelbabu: i think i found something
[13:32] <shadeslayer> !info bughugger
[13:32] <shadeslayer> !info bughugger lucid
[13:33] <shadeslayer> :D
[13:33] <nigelbabu> oh yah, but I'm nt sure how it works
[13:33] <shadeslayer> lets try it out then... installing
[13:37] <shadeslayer> nigelbabu: are the indian mirrors working for you?
[13:38] <nigelbabu> I dunno.  I use the default one
[13:38] <shadeslayer> nigelbabu: the main servers? hehe... i would get off them in 4-5 days
[13:38] <shadeslayer> people will start upgrading left right and center from the main servers :P
[13:38] <nigelbabu> shadeslayer, no.  I just click select best servers and use that
[13:38] <shadeslayer> oh...
[13:42] <shadeslayer> grrrr...
[13:42] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/416123/
[13:46] <nigelbabu> shadeslayer, use the browser ;)
[13:52] <neversfelde> Riddell: ping
[13:56] <Riddell> neversfelde: hola
[13:56] <neversfelde> hi Riddell
[13:57] <neversfelde> kipi-plugin freeze exception request got a -1 from the translators, I am a bit confused :)
[13:57] <neversfelde> it is already in the archive, isn't it?
[13:57] <Riddell> yes, too late I'm afraid
[13:59] <neversfelde> ok, I try to help where I can to get a solution, but at the moment, I am not sure where to start
[14:00] <Riddell> not much we can do except appologise I support
[14:00] <Riddell> suppose
[14:43] <shadeslayer> hey any ideas why bughugger wont work in kubuntu lucid?
[15:03]  * Scorpiion is away: Gone away for now
[15:17] <neversfelde> someone working on a ppa package of amarok 2.3.1 beta?
[15:17] <Riddell> neversfelde: not that I know of
[15:18] <neversfelde> ok, work for me
[15:18] <neversfelde> :)
[15:59] <neversfelde> anyone experienced problems with digikam in lucid? bug kde 232628
[15:59] <neversfelde> I cannot reproduce at the moment and no report on Launchpad so far
[16:45] <Riddell> nookie^!
[16:50]  * apachelogger notes that he thinks ktorrent is a rather ugly app
[16:50]  * apachelogger also notes that he shouldnt check highlights for a day
[16:50]  * apachelogger also notes that the akonadi timeout is still not large enough
[16:51]  * apachelogger also notes that oracle doesnt wanna kill mysql as it seems
[16:53]  * neversfelde highlights apachelogger
[16:54]  * apachelogger is wondering why it always must be him who rants about l10n
[16:55]  * nigelbabu wonders why apachelogger always starts the day with /me
[16:55]  * apachelogger is telling valorie to check the url he posted before he mentioned that kaudiocreater does not build, as he uploaded a fix for the broken building right after he said that it does not build
[16:56]  * apachelogger tells nigelbabu that apachelogger is very self-aware and thus must put himself into the right light at the beginning of the day
[16:56]  * apachelogger notes that it is more like towards the end though, since it is 4 minutes before 6pm
[16:57]  * nigelbabu goes "aha"
[16:57]  * nigelbabu thought apachelogger was in North America
[16:58]  * apachelogger is not anywhere near there :P
[16:59] <nigelbabu> I'm guessing somewhere in EU
[16:59] <nigelbabu> FR?
[17:00]  * apachelogger explains to ScottK that he has been demanding unchangable upstream strings for like ever, but that would prevent bug fixes too so no one liked the idea
[17:00] <ScottK> neversfelde: You can tell the translators that if they don't like the update they are free to stop worsening our translations.
[17:00] <ScottK> apachelogger: I like the idea.
[17:00]  * apachelogger adds that usually the kind of bugfixes done in rosetta are of doubtable nature though, as we have seen yet again
[17:01] <apachelogger> ScottK: I also proposed that changability must be opt-in and signed off by a dev
[17:01] <nigelbabu> finally!
[17:01] <apachelogger> I think that wasnt liked either
[17:01] <ScottK> I may remember wrong, but I really recall dpm saying upstream strings would be preferred
[17:01] <apachelogger> unless changed
[17:01] <ScottK> Perhaps
[17:01] <apachelogger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/TranslationsPrecedence
[17:03] <ScottK> I think somehting like "OK, for Lucid gave in and did it your way even though we thought and continue to think it was a bad idea, so for Maverick, you get to give in and try it our way." ought to be the plan.
[17:03] <apachelogger> hmm
[17:04] <apachelogger> nigelbabu: je ne suis pas francais, mais autrichien :P
[17:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: I would not have given in to begin with :P
[17:04] <apachelogger> it is like with the patch policy
[17:05]  * ScottK ran out of time and energy to maintain sufficient outspokenness on the topic.
[17:05]  * ScottK does recall ever getting the quality analysis we were promised, but maybe just missed it.
[17:05]  * apachelogger was trying to write a blog post about it without ranting the shit out of the broken design
[17:05] <nigelbabu> apachelogger, you're DE and FR?
[17:05] <neversfelde> ScottK: I really have no idea about translations, but as far as I understood the problem is, that there are many strings and some teams have started or completed the translations for kipi. I do not know, why this is a problem, because nothing that could be translated is removed and only a few new things get in with 1.2.0
[17:06] <nigelbabu> ahh, austria
[17:06] <maco> DE & FR? what's that leave, Alsace Lorraine?
[17:07] <apachelogger> nigelbabu: je ne suis pas allemand :P
[17:07] <apachelogger> kubotu: time
[17:07] <kubotu> apachelogger: Europe - Vienna - Sat Apr 17 18:07 CEST
[17:07] <apachelogger> vienna hasnt been part of germany for some 70 years or so
[17:08] <nigelbabu> Je ne peux pas vraiment lu beaucoup de français, but I can use google translate.
[17:08] <maco> hahahaha
[17:08] <nigelbabu> earlier I tried to double guess before pasting in translate
[17:08] <apachelogger> lolz
[17:08] <maco> apachelogger: oh oh oh ive been where you are
[17:08] <apachelogger> I am not there
[17:09] <maco> oh
[17:09] <maco> so confusing!
[17:09] <apachelogger> the timezone is denoted with vienna
[17:09]  * apachelogger only goes to vienna to get to the airport :P
[17:09] <apachelogger> and that is no option today since the airport is closed anyway
[17:10] <apachelogger> the cloud is here!
[17:10] <apachelogger> THE CLOUD
[17:10] <apachelogger> ^^
[17:10] <nigelbabu> apachelogger, http://madduck.net/blog/2010.04.17:planes-or-volcano/
[17:11] <lex79> ScottK: now we have plasma-widget-networkmanagement in the cd ? instead of network-manager-kde ?
[17:11] <ScottK> lex79: Yes.
[17:11] <lex79> ScottK: so maybe it's better remove "CAUTION: plasma widget is not very usable at the moment. Consider using
[17:11] <lex79> network-manager-kde instead."
[17:11] <neversfelde> apachelogger: drive to the airport and ask, if someone needs a taxi
[17:11] <ScottK> Tonio_ pulled some French arguing trick and got the poor Scotsman to change at the last minute
[17:11] <apachelogger> nigelbabu: that is foobar
[17:11] <neversfelde> and ah, be expensive :D
[17:11] <lex79> ScottK: from the description
[17:11] <ScottK> lex79: Good point.
[17:12] <apachelogger> neversfelde: there were people that took a freaking taxi from vienna to zurich!!!
[17:12] <neversfelde> hehe
[17:12] <ScottK> lex79: Can you update the descriptions and put it in bzr?
[17:12] <lex79> ScottK: yes
[17:12] <nigelbabu> apachelogger, foobar?
[17:12] <apachelogger> on the news I have heared berlin to paris
[17:12] <apachelogger> imagine how important it must be to get from berlin to paris to actually be able to effort the kind of money that journey costs with a taxi
[17:13]  * ScottK wonders why one can't rent a car?
[17:13] <apachelogger> ScottK: all rented out
[17:13] <ScottK> Ah
[17:13] <apachelogger> germany is out of cars I have heared
[17:13] <neversfelde> yes, no cars to rent here
[17:13] <nigelbabu> neversfelde, wow
[17:13] <ScottK> Trains overfull too no doubt.
[17:13]  * apachelogger thinks that the way he said it is more fun
[17:14] <apachelogger> ScottK: that is default in germany though
[17:14] <maco> tell mercedes to double-time it?
[17:14] <neversfelde> all trains that are available are in use this weekend
[17:15]  * neversfelde is glad to be at home this weekend :)
[17:15] <apachelogger> except for thos that are in austria :P
[17:15]  * apachelogger note that austria rents quite a lot of them for the increased travel frequency caused by ski tourists
[17:15] <apachelogger> somtime until may or so
[17:18] <lex79> ScottK: are you sure we have bzr for networkmanagement? I can't find it. Should I create it?
[17:22] <apachelogger> markey: could you get me a full amaork cmake log from arch ... maybe that helps with finding the reason for qtscriptbindings test failing
[17:23] <neversfelde> apachelogger: are you creating packages for Kubuntu?
[17:23] <apachelogger> neversfelde: of?
[17:24] <apachelogger> no either way
[17:24]  * apachelogger is @home on netbook
[17:24] <neversfelde> apachelogger: amarok beta
[17:24] <apachelogger> I am not doing anything until monday or more likely wednesday
[17:24] <apachelogger> neversfelde: no
[17:24] <neversfelde> ok
[17:24] <neversfelde> cause it builds here
[17:24] <apachelogger> well yeah
[17:25] <apachelogger> that is with 300% likelyhood an arch problem :P
[17:25]  * apachelogger made it work for kubuntu + chroots a while back
[17:25] <apachelogger> which is why I am intersted in the cause of arch's problems
[17:25] <neversfelde> ok
[17:26] <neversfelde> mehh, why is next ubuntu developer membership board meeting at 15 UTC?
[17:26] <neversfelde> that is too early for me
[17:27]  * apachelogger just found a boutle of captain morgan and thinks that tomorrow everything will be too early ^^
[17:28] <neversfelde> hehe
[17:29] <neversfelde> whatever captain morgan is, it seems to be not healthy
[17:30] <apachelogger> neversfelde: rum, my friend, rum!
[17:30] <apachelogger> neversfelde: what are you membershipping for btw?
[17:31] <neversfelde> apachelogger: Moto :)
[17:31] <apachelogger> still
[17:31] <neversfelde> yes, I did not have the time to attend the last meetings
[17:31] <apachelogger> oh my
[17:31] <apachelogger> well
[17:31] <apachelogger> neversfelde: good luck then :)
[17:32] <neversfelde> apachelogger: thanks, I will have to go to McDonalds to have internet access, I think :)
[17:32] <apachelogger> ^^
[17:32] <apachelogger> you just go there today already
[17:32] <apachelogger> just to make sure
[17:33] <apachelogger> last time we needed internet access stat the wifi at mcdo was rather broken
[17:33] <apachelogger> ever since my mobile is constantly wardriving ^^
[17:33] <apachelogger> you never know when you need internet access
[17:34] <neversfelde> hehe, my tax law school is using KDE 3.5.7, but they block everything that isn't google.de
[17:34] <neversfelde> I probably should convert them to Kubuntu 10.04
[17:36] <apachelogger> oh my
[17:36] <apachelogger> where is jonny?
[17:36] <apachelogger> neversfelde: oha, 3.5.7 is like old
[17:38] <neversfelde> apachelogger: yes, indeed. Nostalgic experiences for me :)
[17:39] <ScottK> lex79: I thought so.  Check for the vcs headers in debian/control.  If not, we should, so please make it too.
[17:39] <lex79> kk
[17:40]  * ScottK had a 3.5.6 desktop until ~4 months ago
[17:41] <neversfelde> why not, it is till working
[17:41] <neversfelde> except for some flash websites
[17:42] <neversfelde> s/till/still
[17:42] <ScottK> In my case the why not was it was Dapper and a bunch of stuff no longer had security support.
[17:43] <ScottK> The interesting thing is that Lucid is much better for this machine than Karmic was thanks to Intel drivers improving.
[17:43] <neversfelde> :)
[17:45] <neversfelde> the digikam problem that I mentioned above seems to be present for some lucid users, I am still trying to reproduce. As there is a fix from upstream, a patch should be no problem. What is needed to update the package after final freeze, an ack from ubuntu release team?
[17:46] <Riddell> neversfelde: yes
[17:46] <Riddell> or which I'm a member
[17:46] <neversfelde> ok, I'll have a look
[17:46] <Riddell> I can be bribed with mint chocolate, but only Fair Trade certified
[17:47] <Riddell> of course ScottK may be easier to bribe, I hear he'll go with plain chocolate
[17:48] <ScottK> Scotch works better for me.
[17:49] <neversfelde> I hate chocolate, but I have some old bread and coffee in the house
[17:50] <neversfelde> probably I can update to coffee + scotch, but I am not sure, if this is a good idea
[17:51] <Riddell> hmm, I rarely offer freeze exceptions to people who refer to whisky by /that word/
[17:51] <maco> Riddell: does Trader Joe's exist over there? ive discovered some yummy dark chocolate truffle chocolate bars!
[17:51] <Riddell> maco: nope
[17:55] <ScottK> Riddell: I didn't realize that was viewed negatively in Scotland. Sorry.
[17:59] <neversfelde> I am sorry, too. Although I have no idea, why it is viewed negatively?
[18:03] <Riddell> neversfelde: just because it's so often used in a negative or ignorant context
[18:04] <ScottK> Riddell: Perhaps you could help us out with the right way ...
[18:04] <Riddell> the whisky industry does still use it to refer to itself, presumably because they'll do whatever it takes to make money :)
[18:04] <ScottK> Ah, so it's a term generally best avoided due to the associated connotations?
[18:05] <Riddell> right
[18:05] <Riddell> ScottK: the drink is whisky, anything claiming to be whisky but not made in Scotland is called "blasphemy" and for the close observers will be misspelt as "whiskey"
[18:05] <ScottK> Ah.
[18:05] <ScottK> I see.
[18:06] <Riddell> the adjective for people from Scotland or anything else is Scots
[18:06] <ScottK> So Scots whisky would be correct, but redundant.
[18:06] <Riddell> right
[18:06] <ScottK> Got it.  Thanks.
[18:07] <ScottK> Sorry for the previous misuse.
[18:08] <Riddell> don't take me too seriously of course or I'll be chastising you for considering putting ice in your whisky next :)
[18:09] <neversfelde> oh, no one puts ice in there, cola is cold enough :)
[18:10] <ScottK> Riddell: No worries.  I have NEVER done that.
[18:10] <maco> i thought rum went with cola, not whisky
[18:10] <Riddell> neversfelde: !
[18:10] <Riddell> neversfelde: now you're just trying to wind me up!
[18:10] <neversfelde> hehe
[18:11] <ScottK> Actually I take that back.  I think I did try it once, but have repressed the awful memory.
[18:28] <markey> apachelogger: sure, I can get you a log. you mean a normal CMake run?
[18:28] <markey> or something special?
[18:30] <markey> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/QxjLk7NY
[19:09] <Guest29015> hi there
[19:09] <Guest29015> I use Kubuntu 10.4 beta 2 on a lenovo thinkpad notebook
[19:10] <Guest29015> When I plug in the AC adaptor , the display brightness increases
[19:11] <Guest29015> if I manually decrease it , after several seconds , the brightness increases automatically
[19:11] <Guest29015> what can I do to solve that?
[19:17] <Guest29015> no idea?
[19:18] <ScottK> Guest29015: Did you install all the post beta 2 updates?
[19:19] <Guest29015> ScottK: no
[19:19] <ScottK> Guest29015: Do that, reboot, and see if it helps.
[19:20] <Guest29015> ScottK: thanks , I will
[19:27] <lex79> ScottK: ouch :( plasma-widget-networkmanagement conflicts with network-manager-kde, and network-manager-kde conflicts with plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[19:27] <lex79> we have to drop the second one right?
[19:28] <ScottK> lex79: It means you can only have one installed at a time.
[19:28] <ScottK> I wouldn't mess with it.
[19:29] <lex79> ScottK: I know, but there are users complains about they have to install plasma-widget-networkmanagement manually
[19:29] <lex79> no solution for that?
[19:29] <ScottK> IIRC it was handled automatically.  I'd ask Tonio_ before you change it.
[19:30] <lex79> ok
[19:31] <lex79> ScottK: anyway I created the branch here: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/ubuntu
[19:31] <Riddell> how else would you install it?
[19:31] <ScottK> apachelogger or Riddell: There are anguage-pack-kde-st  and anguage-pack-kde-st -base pakcage in binary New that look like they are empty.  What's up with that?
[19:32] <ScottK> Riddell: Is that normal?
[19:32] <ScottK> I see a Gnome one there too that's similar.
[19:36] <Riddell> depends if anything has been translated, maybe enough non-GUI bits have to make language packs
[19:36] <Riddell> needs dpm to know really
[19:36] <ScottK> OK.  Do you generally just accept those or leave them?
[19:37] <Riddell> I'd accept them but if they're empty that's worth querying first
[19:38] <ScottK> OK.
[19:38] <ScottK> I'll leave them for now then.
[19:45] <EagleScreen> hi friends
[19:47] <ScottK> Riddell: Looks like libmsn got accepted into Universe on some archs (at least armel).  Would you please promote: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/armel/libmsn0.3/4.1-0ubuntu1
[19:47] <EagleScreen> in Kubuntu lucid, the playmouth splash, always display the message about the disks are being check, but they aren't
[19:47] <janmalte> hi, i'm searching for the ubuntu/kubuntu brand elements. Where can i find them? need them for a presentation
[19:48] <ScottK> EagleScreen: Not everyone has that problem and those bits are identical in Ubuntu and Kubuntu, so I'd ask for help in #ubuntu+1 to figure it out.
[19:48] <janmalte> i can confirm what EagleScreen says
[19:48] <ScottK> Odd.
[19:48]  * ScottK hasn't seen it.
[19:49] <EagleScreen> dont you think it could be related with the Kubuntu plymouth theme?
[19:51] <Riddell> janmalte: new Kubuntu logo is http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/kubuntu_logotype_black.png
[19:51] <Riddell> (or .svg)
[19:51] <Riddell> wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand has the ubuntu logo
[19:57] <janmalte> thanks, do you know where the other things are? like the font and so on?
[19:59] <Riddell> janmalte: there is no font yet, the only characters which exist are the ones in "kubuntu"
[20:01] <janmalte> ok
[20:01] <janmalte> thx
[20:20] <ScottK> Riddell: Looks like libmsn0.3 being in Universe is just armel.
[20:21] <Riddell> ScottK: ok one sec
[20:21] <ScottK> Thanks.
[20:22] <Riddell> sorted (next publisher run)
[20:22] <ScottK> Great.  I'll mash retry on kdenetwork after.  Thanks
[21:09] <Quintasan> \o
[21:11] <debfx> o/
[21:24] <Quintasan> Riddell: do you mind uploading KOffice beta2? I'll send you the debian dir shortly
[21:40] <neversfelde> Quintasan: I had a ping about koffice, maybe it would be good to send a mail to the list, that you are doing it
[21:41] <neversfelde> Quintasan: as far as I remeber Groo, hope that it is the correct nick, has packaged it, too
[21:41] <neversfelde> probably Jonathan (the echidna) knows more
[21:42] <Quintasan> neversfelde: Groo tends to pick up things and disappear halfway :P
[21:43] <neversfelde> Quintasan: do not know any details, I only read about it in my away og
[21:43] <neversfelde> s/og/log
[21:43] <Quintasan> well I'll write up a mail as soon as I finish
[21:51] <ofirk>  /msg ubottu !kubuntu
[23:01] <valorie> apachelogger: thanks so much!
[23:01] <valorie> downloading kaudiocreator as we speak
[23:01] <valorie> :-)