| ScottK | Riddell and apachelogger: What's the solution for kde-l10n-sv FTBFS? | 00:32 |
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| neversfelde | lex79: I already have a package for digikam ready to upload, but I will step back from this bug, if you want to fix it? | 10:46 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: I don't understand, do you have already the package with the fix? | 10:47 |
| lex79 | I uploaded the fix in my ppa for testing | 10:47 |
| lex79 | if it resolves the crash we can upload it | 10:48 |
| neversfelde | lex79: yes, but I cannot upload at the moment, I am not at home | 10:48 |
| neversfelde | and I do not know, if it resolves the bug, because I cannot reproduce the crash | 10:48 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: ah ok, well if my package fix the bug we can upload my package | 10:49 |
| neversfelde | ok | 10:49 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: if not, we will see :) | 10:49 |
| neversfelde | amarok 2.3.1 beta is in staging, if someone wants to test | 11:57 |
| neversfelde | for lucid | 11:58 |
| Quintasan | \o | 15:20 |
| lex79 | \o | 15:23 |
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| JontheEchidna | Fresh Kubuntu install, 64 bit this time. Nice and fast. | 16:11 |
| JontheEchidna | Only abnormality that I've detected is that all my email from Scott K. lost it's date info, until I clicked on them. | 16:12 |
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| lex79 | JontheEchidna: can you upload digikam from bzr ? | 16:37 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: sure | 16:38 |
| lex79 | :) | 16:38 |
| JontheEchidna | it's taking a bit to get all the packaging infastructure back after the new install | 16:44 |
| lex79 | take your time | 16:47 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: btw, do you have any package upload statistics for this cycle? | 16:48 |
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| lex79 | JontheEchidna: not yet, but I can have | 16:49 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: uploaded. an archive admin will need to push it through now | 16:51 |
| lex79 | kk, thanks | 16:51 |
| neversfelde | huh, I am sorry, I pushed amarok to the ppa before it was released | 16:55 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: you are too fast :D | 16:57 |
| neversfelde | yes, indeed :) | 16:57 |
| neversfelde | amarok moved to beta backports | 17:23 |
| neversfelde | mhh, I probably should have called it ~lucid1~ppa1 | 17:24 |
| neversfelde | Nightrose: is there a schedule for Amarok 2.3.1 or when is the next beta planned? | 17:27 |
| Nightrose | neversfelde: final tagging planned for 15th | 17:28 |
| neversfelde | ok, so problem then. Thank you. | 17:29 |
| jussi | oh yay... my calendar seems to have diappeared. I only have time in the clock widget now... | 17:29 |
| JontheEchidna | File "install-package.py", line 206, in showDetails | 17:43 |
| JontheEchidna | self.konsoleFrame.setVisible(false) | 17:43 |
| JontheEchidna | NameError: global name 'false' is not defined | 17:43 |
| * JontheEchidna facepalms | 17:43 | |
| JontheEchidna | oh, python loves the capital letters | 17:43 |
| JontheEchidna | still, that is dumb | 17:45 |
| JontheEchidna | eek @ bug 551456 | 17:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 551456 in kcm-touchpad "systemsettings crashes when clicking "Keyboard & Mouse"" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/551456 | 17:53 |
| JontheEchidna | crashing for all non-admin users is very ungood | 17:53 |
| lex79 | really, it's bad | 17:55 |
| JontheEchidna | I suppose that if it comes to it, we'll have to remove it from the final release... :( | 17:59 |
| JontheEchidna | though I can't reproduce it with a second user... | 17:59 |
| ScottK | lex79: Where did this digikam patch come from? | 17:59 |
| lex79 | ScottK: from here: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232628 | 18:00 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 232628 in Albums GUI "crash on startup in RatingWidget" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] | 18:00 |
| ScottK | lex79: Is it committed upstream? | 18:01 |
| ScottK | ... and did you test it? | 18:01 |
| lex79 | I don't know, yes I tested | 18:01 |
| JontheEchidna | kde svn 1109177 | 18:01 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1109177&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1109177 | Fix crash in rating widget. Thanks for the hint. BUG: 232628 | 18:01 |
| ScottK | Great. | 18:01 |
| ScottK | Accepting. | 18:02 |
| lex79 | thanks | 18:02 |
| ScottK | shtylman was right. Chromium is fast. | 18:02 |
| ScottK | Launchpad on the other hand .... | 18:03 |
| ScottK | lex79: Let me amend that: Accepting if I can get Launchpad to play nice. | 18:03 |
| JontheEchidna | I imagine that the nice null return here is the root of our problems... http://paste.ubuntu.com/417082/ | 18:04 |
| * ScottK runs through his list of installed browsers | 18:04 | |
| lex79 | Does LP is slow? strange... | 18:05 |
| lex79 | :D | 18:05 |
| ScottK | Done. | 18:06 |
| lex79 | k | 18:06 |
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| lex79 | ScottK: I'm a bit confuse :) If we have switched from network-manager-kde to plasma-widget-networkmanagement, kubuntu-desktop shouldn't recommends plasma-widget-networkmanagement ? now it recommends network-manager-kde | 18:21 |
| lex79 | bug 565584 | 18:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 565584 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement "network-manager-kde removes plasma-widget-networkmanagement" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565584 | 18:21 |
| * ScottK looks at Riddell to fix. | 18:21 | |
| * ScottK has lost track, but that sounds right. | 18:22 | |
| Riddell | we (should be) still using knetworkmanager | 18:22 |
| Riddell | which is packaged as network-manager-kde | 18:22 |
| ScottK | OK. I thought we switched. | 18:22 |
| Riddell | and Conflicts: plasma-widget-networkmanagement is a sensible thing to do since the kded from that will get in the way of knetworkmanager | 18:23 |
| tsdgeos | lo guys | 18:23 |
| tsdgeos | any reason why you don't package KAudioCreator? | 18:23 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: we're still using knetworkmanager (packaged as network-manager-kde) right? you haven't sneaked in plasma-widget-networkmanagement have you? | 18:23 |
| lex79 | Riddell: something is wrong in the package then | 18:23 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: apachelogger was doing that, let me grep some logs to see what happened to it | 18:24 |
| lex79 | if you want upgrade from karmic to lucid, plasma-widget wants install | 18:24 |
| ScottK | tsdgeos: Because the KDE4 version appeared too late for this release. apachelogger put it in a PPA for now. | 18:25 |
| tsdgeos | too late??? | 18:25 |
| ScottK | Generally. | 18:25 |
| lex79 | tsdgeos: we are in final freeze | 18:26 |
| ScottK | Not sure if it appeared recently or we became aware of it recently. | 18:26 |
| ScottK | apachelogger has the details. | 18:26 |
| Riddell | logs say he hasn't put it in the archive because it's a beta | 18:27 |
| Riddell | it's in the beta PPA | 18:27 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta | 18:27 |
| tsdgeos | otoh doesn't seems to work ... | 18:27 |
| ScottK | OTOH this is a LTS release and we get all kinds of crap for releasing with beta stuff. | 18:28 |
| tsdgeos | well, kaudiocreator has existed since 5 years at least | 18:28 |
| ScottK | KDE3 version | 18:28 |
| tsdgeos | waving the "too new" flag is a joke | 18:28 |
| ScottK | Once it's final, we can do a backport from Maverick to Lucid. | 18:29 |
| Riddell | it's not too new, ScottK is mistaken there, it's been out since October | 18:29 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It's the beta release part I guess | 18:29 |
| Riddell | but it is a beta and putting beta software into a main archive for an LTS isn't good practice | 18:29 |
| * ScottK clearly misremebered | 18:30 | |
| Riddell | upstreams get grumpy when we do that and we don't like to upset upstreams | 18:30 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I have the debian/ dir for KOffice beta 2 ready, if you could upload it I would be grateful - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/koffice_2.1.82-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz | 18:31 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: groovy | 18:31 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: you care about grumpy upstreams now ;-) that card never worked for me | 18:32 |
| * tsdgeos teases poor Riddell | 18:32 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Did you upload install-package with a .bzr directory in it on purpose? | 18:35 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: oops | 18:35 |
| * ScottK rejects. | 18:35 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Feel free to reupload. You can use the same version again. | 18:35 |
| tsdgeos | oh man | 18:37 |
| tsdgeos | kaudiocreator code sucks :D | 18:37 |
| Riddell | maybe beta PPA is too risky and we should put it in experimental :) | 18:38 |
| Riddell | lex79: did you do a test upgrade from karmic? | 18:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I left network-manager-kde as the default | 18:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no issue on that point | 18:39 |
| lex79 | Riddell: no, a guy here: https://launchpad.net/bugs/565584 | 18:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 565584 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement "network-manager-kde removes plasma-widget-networkmanagement" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 18:39 |
| lex79 | from the description "After upgrade the network applet has switched to new plasma-widget-networkmanagement." | 18:40 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: that's a wanted purpose | 18:41 |
| Tonio_ | it is normal | 18:41 |
| JontheEchidna | if he had both installed previously, that might have been why | 18:41 |
| Riddell | lex79: that sounds like a very confused bug report | 18:42 |
| lex79 | I know | 18:42 |
| lex79 | :) | 18:42 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: the plasma applet conflicts knetworkmanager | 18:42 |
| Tonio_ | we don't want the plasma applet by default | 18:42 |
| Tonio_ | so yes installing one drops the other | 18:42 |
| Riddell | I'll be doing upgrade testing tomorrow so I'll make sure to check it's all sane | 18:43 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: one thing : knetworkmanager was inside plasma-widget-networkmanagement in karmic | 18:43 |
| Tonio_ | no split | 18:43 |
| lex79 | I know also that..but if you have knetworkmanager and not kubuntu-desktop installed, why after upgrade you found plasma-applet instead networkmanager? | 18:43 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: if the guy dist-upgrades and as no kubuntu-desktop, then I can understand why it ends with the plasmoid | 18:43 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: but if you get the updated kubuntu-desktop, it all should work | 18:44 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: hum, that's strange indeed | 18:44 |
| lex79 | yes, we neead an upgrade test | 18:44 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: yep | 18:45 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: there is no reason why | 18:45 |
| Tonio_ | knetworkmnager is provided by network-manager-kde | 18:45 |
| Tonio_ | I see nothing in the deps that would explain this...... | 18:45 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: I tested myself and saw no problem on that point | 18:45 |
| ScottK | The reason I thought we switched was I got switched on upgrade. | 18:46 |
| lex79 | Tonio_: ok thanks, did you do a test upgrade from karmic? | 18:46 |
| * ScottK didn't realize it was a bug. | 18:46 | |
| Tonio_ | lex79: lex79read the bug report | 18:46 |
| Tonio_ | it "NORMAL" | 18:46 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 18:46 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: no kubnutu-desktop -> | 18:47 |
| tsdgeos | for (int i; i < pendingJobs.count(); ++i) { | 18:47 |
| Tonio_ | you have plasma-widget-networkmanagement, you keep it | 18:47 |
| tsdgeos | ↑ AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa | 18:47 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that this package, previously did not contain the plasmoid, but the binary (stupid but that's it) | 18:47 |
| Tonio_ | so yes, keeping the same package, the guy switched from the binary to the plasmoid, now the packaging is correct | 18:47 |
| lex79 | Tonio_: the problem is not that ^^, the problem is why that guy with network-manager-kde after upgrade without kubuntu-desktop he found plasma applet in his system ;) | 18:48 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: then he installed kubuntu-desktop, which depends on the network-manager-kde package, and that removed the plasmoid | 18:48 |
| Tonio_ | I see no problem here | 18:48 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: that's impossible :) | 18:48 |
| lex79 | we hope ;) | 18:48 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: the guy did NOT have network-manager-kde before the update | 18:49 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: cause the package did NOT exist for karmic :) | 18:49 |
| Tonio_ | it was plasma-applet-networkmanagement | 18:49 |
| lex79 | oh | 18:49 |
| Tonio_ | and knetworkmanager was in it | 18:49 |
| Tonio_ | so yes, keeping the same package, it ended up with a switch | 18:50 |
| Tonio_ | the guy always had the same package except the content was fixed | 18:50 |
| Tonio_ | and installing kubuntu-desktop ended up installing the good package | 18:50 |
| Tonio_ | so network-manager-kde | 18:50 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: I hope it's clear now :) the packaging wfor karmic was stupid | 18:51 |
| Tonio_ | cause we dropped the plasmoid | 18:51 |
| lex79 | yes it's clear :) thanks | 18:51 |
| Tonio_ | kept the binary, and got everything in a plasma-widget-networkmanagment package | 18:51 |
| Tonio_ | now the packaging makes sense | 18:51 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: one thing is sure, for people doing dist-upgrade and not having kubuntu-desktop package, there will be a switch | 18:52 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: for those who will use the upgrade manager tool, no problem | 18:52 |
| Riddell | dist-upgrade not supported, la la not our problem :) | 18:52 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: install-package is back in queue. Once you get a chance I'd appreciate a second look | 18:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: disyt-upgrade with no metapackage installed, not my problem | 18:53 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 18:53 |
| lex79 | ok, it seems a bit mess imho, but ok ;) | 18:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: metapackages are the base to get the new distro content | 18:53 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 18:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if you drop it, how can we make sure to switch correctly to new packages ? :) | 18:54 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: yes, it is messy, cause the packaging was crap in the past | 18:54 |
| lex79 | you can't | 18:54 |
| lex79 | kk | 18:54 |
| Tonio_ | cause we renamed it 3 times (plasma-widget -> plasma-applet, then -networkmanager to -networkmanagement | 18:54 |
| Tonio_ | etc... | 18:54 |
| Tonio_ | I just tried to make the packaging nice once and for all, I think it is nice now | 18:55 |
| Tonio_ | and yes, without metapackages, there might be a little trouble | 18:55 |
| Tonio_ | although people ending with the plasmoid isn't a big problem, it works very well | 18:55 |
| lex79 | Riddell: so for testing upgrade karmic->lucid you don't use dist-upgrade? | 18:56 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: you do, but also you reinstall the metapackage | 18:56 |
| lex79 | ah | 18:57 |
| Tonio_ | and that's were is the good transition from the old packaging to the new one | 18:57 |
| Tonio_ | s/were/where/ | 18:57 |
| Riddell | lex79: no, only the upgrade tool is supported | 18:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but the upgrade tool is performing a dist-upgrade right ? along with many other tests... | 18:58 |
| Riddell | yes, a dist-upgrade but with policies | 18:59 |
| Riddell | so enforcing kubuntu-desktop or other meta package, allowing some file overwrites, forcing some packages to be removed and forcing others to be installed | 18:59 |
| Riddell | and anything else we choose to include | 19:00 |
| Tonio_ | kk ;) | 19:00 |
| Tonio_ | just as I thought | 19:00 |
| Riddell | any other method of disto version upgrade is liable to quirks | 19:00 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I've done at least one dist-upgrade with backports enabled Hardy -> Lucid and Karmic -> Lucid and fixed all the replaces I ran into. | 19:02 |
| Riddell | hi nookie^ | 19:03 |
| ScottK | Such tests are, however, sensitive to package upgrade order which is not deterministic, so it takes multiple tries to get them all. | 19:03 |
| nookie^ | hi Riddell | 19:04 |
| Riddell | nookie^: fancy doing a release countdown for us? | 19:04 |
| Riddell | or indeed a release image of some sort | 19:04 |
| nookie^ | sure that could be done =) | 19:05 |
| nookie^ | Riddell: i'll try to start tomorrow... to busy today | 19:05 |
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| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Unfortunately it would take more time than I have right now to understand the diff, so I'll leave install-package for Riddell. | 19:12 |
| Riddell | I'll look at if after dinner, ping me if I forget | 19:24 |
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| ramanK_ | I use the beta2+latest updates on a thinkpad notebook | 19:26 |
| ramanK_ | after booting the battery monitor shows that the ac adaptor is pugged in | 19:27 |
| ramanK_ | but it's not plugged in! | 19:27 |
| ramanK_ | if I type the cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state | 19:28 |
| ramanK_ | it shows: state: off-line | 19:28 |
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| ramanK_ | but if I plug in the ac adaptor and then unplug it , after that battery monitor works normally | 19:29 |
| ramanK_ | wha'ts wrong? | 19:29 |
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| apachelogger | ScottK: re kde-l10n-sv FTBFS - be upset with upstream and shoot a deployment-fail report up their arse ... or mess with the common rules file to delete the breaking stuff for -svg, generall though I would simply not care because there was a successful build and hence the stuff is all imported + users have a 4.4.2 kde-l10n-sv to install | 21:17 |
| apachelogger | it just happens to not be the most recent one | 21:17 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Could you find a minion to fix it? | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | ScottK, Riddell: frankly, I think that I just forgot to poke into kaudiocreator upload ... IIRC it stroke me rather low on the quality and thus let me stop bothering getting it in | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | something like that | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: our minons only know how to add dh magic line and cdbs magic lines | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | also, I think we are short on minions | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | because you were endorsing propsective motus without having them get new minions first :P | 21:19 |
| ScottK | Sigh. | 21:20 |
| * ScottK bets lex79 could fix it. | 21:20 | |
| lex79 | thanks for consider me a minion...thanks thanks :( | 21:21 |
| lex79 | btw someone should upload kdeplasma-addons from bzr :P | 21:22 |
| ScottK | lex79: No. apachelogger said a minion couldn't fix it and I said you could | 21:22 |
| apachelogger | markey: I am wondering why a QCore class requires a gui? | 21:22 |
| ScottK | That's the opposite of being a minion. | 21:22 |
| lex79 | uhmmm | 21:22 |
| ScottK | lex79: You should be recruiting though. | 21:22 |
| * apachelogger nods | 21:22 | |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger, ScottK: upstream l10n team said on kde-packager to lart the -sv team and to remove the files that are failing to compile | 21:23 |
| apachelogger | now | 21:23 |
| apachelogger | I know that | 21:23 |
| apachelogger | but | 21:23 |
| apachelogger | it is wrong on so many levels | 21:23 |
| lex79 | remove the files ? lol | 21:23 |
| JontheEchidna | " | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | lex79: well, the lang team failed to QA their sources | 21:24 |
| JontheEchidna | My suggestion is to remove the file and not fix it, if the translator didn't | 21:24 |
| JontheEchidna | care to make sure it compiles, that is the first step, you can be sure it is | 21:24 |
| JontheEchidna | nto even been tested. | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | lex79: the other approach would be adding the appropriate entities to the list of entities | 21:24 |
| lex79 | apachelogger: well, in this case I can do late or tomorrow morning | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I fixed it for ubuntu2 | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | BUT | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | friends | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | the problem is of much greater influence than that | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | see | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | kde-l10n-* is built from the kde-l10n-common branch | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | that means the only way to prevent -sv from breaking at next upload is to add appropriate magic there | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | and then there is the implication that magic added there must not break the other packages | 21:25 |
| ScottK | True, but I'd settle for just fixing that one for today. | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | so you'd first need to probe the current source package, then go awoga on it IF it is -sv | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I did that for ubuntu2 :P | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | there is no gain from fixing it again other than it not having show up on FTBFS liists | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | unless it is done in the rules of -common | 21:26 |
| JontheEchidna | except maybe larting the kde -sv team even harder if it shows up in 4.4.3 | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | that said, doing this implies that at least the changelog of -common gets bumped | 21:27 |
| ScottK | Well we're stuck with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-l10n-sv/4:4.4.2-0ubuntu6 not building | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: ubuntu2 built | 21:27 |
| ScottK | OK, so make ubuntu7 and have it biuld | 21:27 |
| ScottK | build even | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | that implies that someone fixes up the /rules file in -common | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | and that said | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | THE ONLY solution is to lart upstream into realeasing a freaking fixed tarball | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | because honest to god, if KDE considers themself source-only distributors then I seriously wonder what kind of source distributor distributes broken soruces | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | which is another level of "why the approach of having distros fix this on their own" wrongness | 21:29 |
| apachelogger | markey: I dont get it, I really dont ... http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6//qcoreapplication.html#details | 21:29 |
| apachelogger | according to the docu QCoreApplicatoin is meant for non-GUI usage | 21:30 |
| Sput | it is | 21:31 |
| Sput | it's what quasselcore uses | 21:31 |
| Sput | apachelogger: what's markey's problem? | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | http://gitorious.org/amarok/amarok/commit/ac6fff90596e1f207dc7ae6e7c2b0f024b60c340 | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | http://gitorious.org/amarok/amarok/commit/8950ebc7726669011ab5369c334d059f8edee1d4 | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | I think that arch's qt is just $broken | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | because | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | ubuntu's buildds and chroot magic certainly doesnt give access to any X server (if even available) | 21:33 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Can't be. We suck compared to Arch. Everyone says so. | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: non, see, we suck compared to chakra | 21:33 |
| Sput | apachelogger: no idea about QtScript | 21:33 |
| ScottK | Well that too | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | Sput: well, take a look at the change | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | from QCoreApplication to QApplication | 21:34 |
| Sput | but QCoreApplication doesn't need X11 by itself | 21:34 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: see ... chakra is a fancy condom you pull over arch, so you dont have to call it arch, because the name sucks | 21:34 |
| Sput | apachelogger: no idea what those commits are supposed to save :) | 21:34 |
| apachelogger | Sput: that is my point, so what difference does that change make | 21:34 |
| ScottK | Nice | 21:34 |
| Sput | s/save/solve/ | 21:35 |
| apachelogger | very odd really | 21:35 |
| Sput | yeah, well, so what's the bug it's supposed to solve? | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | Sput: unbuildability on systems without GUI I suppose | 21:38 |
| apachelogger | oh | 21:38 |
| * apachelogger just noticed that he patched it away in ubuntu ^^ | 21:38 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:39 |
| JontheEchidna | heh, I got a chuckle out of the title for kde bug 234634 | 21:42 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 234634 in general "took about an hour to update the dbinfo since i was using mc donalds free wifi so i forgot :(" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234634 | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | Sput: well, IMHO arch is bogus | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | even in a xless chroot the qtscript test works just fine with QCoreApplication | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | also it seems debian does have that too, since we inherit that get-rid-of-check-patch from tehre | 21:50 |
| Sput | apachelogger: can't comment on that without a build log | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | no clue what they do | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | Sput: nvm, I was just wondering since the change seems a bit mad | 21:51 |
| Sput | <Sput> apachelogger: can't comment on that without a build log | 21:53 |
| Sput | :) | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | great | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | I get mail for xubuntu testers | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: can you please go poke some people in the eye? | 21:53 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: That one is on my TODO, but I got distracted from my mail. | 21:54 |
| Sput | with a rusty spork! | 21:54 |
| * apachelogger is feeling busy for no apparent reason | 21:55 | |
| apachelogger | very weird | 21:55 |
| JontheEchidna | I won't take Arch seriously until they get debug packages | 21:57 |
| JontheEchidna | otherwise I might as well just use Gentoo | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | lol | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | at least gentoo has a working Qt ;) | 21:57 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: mind throwing an ack at bug 566223 too, please? | 22:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 566223 in gtk2-engines-qtcurve "Sync gtk2-engines-qtcurve 1.3.0-1 (main) from Debian sid (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566223 | 22:00 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: maybe also merging kde-style-qtcurve... | 22:03 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: that's why I said "too" ;) | 22:03 |
| lex79 | oh :P | 22:03 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: actually, please reject. Breaks string freeze | 22:05 |
| ScottK | Looking | 22:05 |
| ScottK | OK | 22:05 |
| apachelogger | string freeze is that time of the year when translators have all the time they need to happily break upstream's translations ;) | 22:06 |
| JontheEchidna | well in this case upstream doesn't do translations, but... | 22:06 |
| * apachelogger takes that cynical reply of JontheEchidna's and tries to find some late night snack | 22:06 | |
| JontheEchidna | actually, they do ship turkish translations | 22:09 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: kde-style-qtcurve has new strings and at least one change. | 22:10 |
| ScottK | Would you please review it and consider if we want it anyway or not. | 22:10 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: it's not vital. Just looks prettier | 22:12 |
| JontheEchidna | please reject it | 22:12 |
| ScottK | OK. Doing. | 22:12 |
| JontheEchidna | Thanks. | 22:13 |
| ScottK | Done | 22:14 |
| * ScottK ponders how best to use the 17% battery he has remaining.... | 22:14 | |
| m4v | save it for an emergency? | 22:17 |
| ScottK | Nah. | 22:18 |
| Sput | apachelogger: we also have debug packages :) | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | cool | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | see | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | gentoo is way better than arch | 22:20 |
| Sput | or... well, we have debug symbols, not packages | 22:20 |
| Sput | I mean, separate packages don't make sense for a source distro :) | 22:20 |
| Sput | that said, I've installed Chakra for my dad's computer, and it was quite a nice experience from an enduser perspective... installation was quick and smooth, and everything worked out of the box... also nice theming/branding | 22:21 |
| ScottK | Quassel in the default install? | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | Sput: always that source distro excuse, it is getting old you know :P | 22:25 |
| ScottK | Battery's about to go. This is a nice test of the double suspend fix. | 22:27 |
| ScottK | See you all later. | 22:27 |
| Sput | ScottK: google alerts linked me to some chakra forum entry that suggests quassel recently made default in Chakra, yes | 22:27 |
| Sput | not using it myself, and wasn't contacted, so I can't tell if it's true really | 22:28 |
| Sput | apachelogger: what! no need to install an extra package if symbols are simply installed by building the binaries :) | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | Sput: and that is a reason not to have debug packages? :P | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | weak | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | simply weak | 22:29 |
| * Sput assumes apachelogger is joking rather than being stupid | 22:30 | |
| apachelogger | Sput: you question my stupidness? | 22:31 |
| Sput | nah, it's unquestionable | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | good | 22:31 |
| Sput | schleep | 22:34 |
| * debfx is really annoyed by the dbus tray icon which isn't able to focus restored windows | 22:41 | |
| imbrandon | ScottK: ping | 22:49 |
| imbrandon | ScottK: you dont happen to rember the city kwii is in , in germany do you ? | 22:49 |
| imbrandon | or Riddell ^^ | 22:49 |
| apachelogger | imbrandon: Hallstadt I think | 22:51 |
| imbrandon | apachelogger: ahh, thank you | 22:53 |
| JontheEchidna | debfx: that bug was in KStatusNotifierItem too | 23:00 |
| debfx | JontheEchidna: KStatusNotifierItem is the class that implements the dbus system tray | 23:04 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, I thought you meant dbusmenu | 23:04 |
| debfx | I wonder if most users aren't affected as I couldn't find a bug on launchpad | 23:12 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: do you use chromium daily from ppa? | 23:12 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: yes | 23:13 |
| ScottK | debfx: Just took my netbook down to 5% power and then it autosuspended (once) and then resumed after I got to power. All very nice and smooth. Thanks again for fixing. | 23:13 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=41467 | 23:13 |
| lex79 | ^^ that is very annoying | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, I have that | 23:14 |
| lex79 | it's really bad when you have to paste here the url from pastebin site | 23:15 |
| lex79 | you have to write http:// manually | 23:15 |
| lex79 | bah | 23:15 |
| lex79 | and...it's not a bug...it's a feauture lol | 23:16 |
| debfx | ScottK: you're welcome :) | 23:16 |
| markey | re | 23:18 |
| markey | Sput: you pinged me? | 23:18 |
| lex79 | ScottK: I have a fix in bzr for kdeplasma-addons...I tested it and works | 23:20 |
| lex79 | maybe you can upload... | 23:20 |
| ScottK | lex79: If I upload it, I can't be the release person that accepts it, so see if you can get JontheEchidna or apachelogger to upload. | 23:21 |
| lex79 | kk | 23:22 |
| seele | Riddell: quick, like a bunny. shouldn't you be sleeping? | 23:52 |
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