[00:00] <peace> thanks guys i go and get some info there
[00:00] <phillw> for the commands you generally need, if you are already competent in those, I can get you more instructions. Do you want just a server, orto put a server onto a desktop system ?
[00:00] <peace> anyway i seen something going on my ubuntu here
[00:01] <peace> when i go to youtube i don't have sound
[00:01] <peace> is something missing
[00:01] <peace> i want to learn linux comand and do the RHCE OR Ubuntu certify
[00:02] <peace> i have a server for redhat i did setup with a friends help
[00:02] <peace> but i like to start one from scrach on a vmware or alternative
[00:03] <peace> to just practics
[00:03] <peace> any sugestions how it's done or how to ??
[00:04] <peace> i was using windows 7  and fedora server on an old hp laptop
[00:04] <peace> i did host a website as well
[00:05] <robbmunson> hmm.....nhandler, if you are here.....
[00:05] <nhandler> Hey robbmunson
[00:05] <peace> but i like to get my hand dirty on doing things and get info
[00:05] <peace> phillw
[00:06] <peace> r you there
[00:06] <phillw> peace: yeah
[00:06] <peace> did you understand what i's saying
[00:06] <phillw> pop on standard ubuntu desktop then do this ....
[00:07] <phillw> http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4
[00:08] <phillw> soz for links to my notes, they're just easier for me to refer to
[00:09] <peace> yeah that great but that all done on my laptop
[00:09] <peace> the only problem on this is my dns
[00:09] <peace> how to check if my dns is working properly
[00:11] <phillw> peace: idk, i run lamp on my lappy dns stuff i leave to my net provider and the domains I have bought.
[00:12] <peace> ok
[00:12] <peace> ok
[00:12] <peace> phillw can you guide me in a way
[00:13] <peace> let say i no nothing on ubuntu server instalation and configuration
[00:13] <phillw> peace: I've had my laptop setup as a live system, it handled the tests okay.
[00:13] <peace> what should i do after installing a base system
[00:14] <peace> let say i do the exams witch way to start better
[00:14] <phillw> peace: nor did (or do) I ;-) Are you wanting to learn about it  ?
[00:14] <peace> yeah
[00:15] <peace> i want to learn it in standard way
[00:15] <peace> you install base server and configure it from start to finish
[00:15] <peace> install lamp
[00:15] <peace> install ftp
[00:15] <peace> install dns
[00:15] <peace> configure lamp
[00:16] <phillw> peace: my advice would be to put ubuntu Desktop on your system, then add LAMP. That way you will have access to the help of GUI
[00:16] <peace> ok i have it install
[00:16] <peace> then
[00:16] <peace> how  do i get help of gi
[00:16] <peace> gui
[00:16] <phillw> peace: do lamp via http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4
[00:17] <phillw> the GUI will enable you to use phpmyadmin for any MySQL stuff as you learn, puts on the Apache server etc.
[00:19] <peace> yeah phillw you r right
[00:20] <peace> but what i wanted is how to build servers configure services on ubuntu
[00:20] <peace> for the moment as i like to do the exams for system adminitrator
[00:22] <peace> ok  guys
[00:22] <peace> good night
[00:22] <phillw> peace: for servers, if you really want to know about them, head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=339  and read the stickies, it will take some time to read the one from bodhi :-)
[00:23] <robbmunson> bodhi likes to be in depth
[00:23] <robbmunson> be back in a few
[00:24] <peace> see you arround phillw thanks
[00:24] <peace> thanks budy
[00:24] <peace> that's cool info for me
[00:24] <peace> i have  few days of reading from
[00:24] <peace> now
[00:24] <peace> so see you after
[00:24] <peace> tkare
[00:24] <peace> i will miss you guzs
[00:24] <peace> guys
[00:24] <peace> i leanr and share here
[00:25] <peace> see you all goodnight god bless
[00:38] <robbmunson> phillw, I was "ragging" on you about your forum earlier...but wow bud, thats a lot of stuff you managed to do, bravo...
[01:01] <phillw> robbmunson: and before any asks again, my logo has been okayed by the copy-right / trade mark team at Canonical ;-)
[01:46] <haywire> Who might like to try helping me with printing to a shared printer on a windoze (Vista) machine?
[01:47] <pedro3005> haywire, the printer is connected to windows?
[01:47] <haywire> yes.
[01:48] <haywire> I tried Samba in xubuntu 9.10, and
[01:48] <haywire> it found the printer, (by name) but when I attempt to print to it from xubuntu, everything gets hung in the print spooler on the host machine.
[03:07] <Shadowmancer21> hey all
[03:07] <Shadowmancer21> need some help reinstalling grub
[03:08] <Shadowmancer21> I followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows though the issues is because ubuntu is installed on a partition
[03:08] <Shadowmancer21> it doesn't like me trying to reinstall ubuntu
[03:09] <Shadowmancer21> hmmm ... and i think i just realized the issue >.<
[03:22] <Shadowmancer> alright
[03:22] <Shadowmancer> so i'm back
[03:22] <Shadowmancer> and i was wrong :(
[03:23] <pedro3005> Shadowmancer, what's up?
[03:23] <Shadowmancer> oh
[03:23] <Shadowmancer> sorry
[03:23] <Shadowmancer> i just recently had to do a fresh install of win 7
[03:23] <Shadowmancer> as per expected mbr was overwritten
[03:23] <Shadowmancer> so i had to reinstall grub
[03:23] <pedro3005> ok
[03:23] <pedro3005> and?
[03:24] <Shadowmancer> catch can only do it from command line (ubuntu live cd can't run my video card for some reason and i don't know the edits to xorg.conf to get it to work)
[03:24] <Shadowmancer> so no real problem with that
[03:24] <Shadowmancer> so i found this on the ubuntu help thing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and tried to follow it
[03:24] <Shadowmancer> i'm using 9.10
[03:24] <Shadowmancer> so i'm using grub 2
[03:24] <Shadowmancer> hopefully
[03:24] <Shadowmancer> anyways
[03:25] <Shadowmancer> so i followed the instructions and it complained a) it couldn't find a core.img file and b) its a partition not a hdd
[03:26] <Shadowmancer21>  sorry
[03:26] <Shadowmancer21> lost connection
[03:26] <Shadowmancer21> so yeah thats my issue
[03:26] <Shadowmancer21> i can't figure out where the files are meant to be
[03:26] <Shadowmancer21> i've tried auto supergrub disk
[03:26] <Shadowmancer21> that doesn't work
[03:26] <Shadowmancer21> and i'm out of ideas since i don't know much about how to set up grub
[03:28] <Shadowmancer21> hmmm any clues?
[03:30] <Shadowmancer> hmmm
[03:31] <pedro3005> Shadowmancer, oh sorry
[03:32] <Shadowmancer> its alright
[03:32] <Shadowmancer> i am just out of ideas
[03:32] <Shadowmancer> i don't want to go grub-install /dev/sda1
[03:33] <Shadowmancer> because i don't know if it'll map ubuntu and everything properly
[03:33] <Shadowmancer> i don't know the default behaviour
[03:33] <Shadowmancer> i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but it doesn't mention what to do in the case of ubuntu being on a partition
[03:34] <pedro3005> Shadowmancer, what exactly did you try?
[03:34] <Shadowmancer> mounted my ubuntu os
[03:34] <Shadowmancer> then did
[03:35] <Shadowmancer> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/ubuntu /dev/sdb5
[03:35] <Shadowmancer> i had to create ubuntu since i only have access to terminal
[03:35] <Shadowmancer> and sdb5 is the petition of my ubuntu partition
[03:36] <krhahn> I am having a hard time installing the driver for a broadcom wireless card.  I have looked at a lot of different how-tos with no luck.  Any advice?
[03:37] <Shadowmancer> most broadcom cards i've found auto detect and it offers to get the restricted drivers
[03:37] <Shadowmancer> doesn't it do that for you?
[03:37] <krhahn> no
[03:38] <pedro3005> Shadowmancer, I think /media/ubuntu should be equal to /dev/sdb5/boot and not the root directory
[03:38] <pedro3005> fix that
[03:38] <Shadowmancer> how do you mean?
[03:38] <Shadowmancer> do you mean i should go
[03:38] <pedro3005> Shadowmancer, how did you mount /media/ubuntu?
[03:39] <krhahn> when I go to sys>admin>hrdwr drvr i get a message that says the driver could not be installed
[03:39] <Shadowmancer> sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /media/ubuntu
[03:39] <pedro3005> krhahn, which device is it?
[03:39] <pedro3005> Shadowmancer, do this:
[03:39] <pedro3005> sudo umount /media/ubuntu
[03:39] <pedro3005> sudo mount /dev/sdb5/boot /media/ubuntu
[03:39] <pedro3005> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/ubuntu /dev/sdb5
[03:40] <krhahn> sudo unmount get a command not found
[03:41] <pedro3005> krhahn, it's "umount" and it wasn't directed at you :p
[03:41] <krhahn> oh
[03:41] <krhahn> okay
[03:41] <pedro3005> I asked which device you are trying to install
[03:42] <Shadowmancer> lol it can't find core.img
[03:42] <Shadowmancer> thats another error message i mentioned further up
[03:42] <krhahn> sorry... device is BCM4311 802.11b/g
[03:44] <pedro3005> Shadowmancer, my bad
[03:44] <pedro3005> let's try this
[03:44] <pedro3005> sudo umount /media/ubuntu
[03:44] <pedro3005> sudo mount /dev/sdb5/boot/grub /media/ubuntu
[03:44] <pedro3005> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/ubuntu /dev/sdb5
[03:45] <Shadowmancer> core.img isn't in there, i checked
[03:45] <Shadowmancer> :P
[03:46] <pedro3005> it is here o.O
[03:46] <Shadowmancer> yeah i am confused as well
[03:48] <Shadowmancer> i got a ton of .mod files in there
[03:48] <pedro3005> me too
[03:48] <Shadowmancer> i can't check right now but its from memory
[03:48] <Shadowmancer> i was looking for core.img since if thats all grub was crying about i would give baby its bottle
[03:50] <pedro3005> Shadowmancer, try
[03:50] <pedro3005> ls /dev/sdb5/boot/grub | grep img
[03:51] <Shadowmancer> wouldn't ls *.img do the same thing?
[03:51] <jfoozie420> lol, i realize when im using firewire, windows has a super huge lag on it
[03:51] <jfoozie420> when i transfered a 5 gig file from one drive to the next it works like a dream on ubuntu
[03:51] <pedro3005> Shadowmancer, well, yeah, but I fail :/
[03:52] <Shadowmancer> yeah didn't find it when i tried that :P
[03:53] <krhahn> pedro3005, not sure if you saw this...  Not trying to be  a pain but thought i would re-send
[03:53] <krhahn>  device is BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[03:53] <pedro3005> krhahn, oh sorry; i'll look
[03:55] <pedro3005> krhahn, your device is supported. try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:56] <krhahn> thanks...  I'll take a look
[04:09] <krhahn> pedro3005, i don't know if this matters but when I run sudo apt-get update i get a few error when loading the headers
[04:09] <krhahn> Also,
[04:10] <krhahn> I ran through the steps on this link and still not able to actuvate the sta driver
[04:10] <pedro3005> krhahn, what errors?
[04:11] <krhahn> there are some that reference not being able to access the cd...  that makes sense because there is no cd in the drive
[04:11] <krhahn> but
[04:12] <krhahn> the first error is
[04:13] <krhahn> W: GPG error :http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic release: the following signatures could not be verified becuase the public key is not available.
[04:14] <pedro3005> krhahn, what exactly did you do?
[04:14] <krhahn> lol...  I did the following
[04:15] <krhahn> sudo apt-get update
[04:15] <krhahn> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[04:16] <krhahn> then tried to activate the sta driver in the sys>adm> hrdwr drvr
[04:16] <krhahn> that's all i could see on the guide that seemed relevant to my problem
[04:16] <krhahn> Kinda new to this
[04:16] <pedro3005> krhahn, paste everything update returns
[04:17] <pedro3005> !paste | krhahn
[04:17] <Votebot> krhahn: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:18] <krhahn> done
[04:18] <pedro3005> krhahn, give us the link
[04:19] <krhahn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/416436/
[04:21] <pedro3005> krhahn, can you do the same for "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"?
[04:22] <krhahn> i get a No such file or directory
[04:23] <pedro3005> krhahn, are you sure you typed it correctly? copy & paste
[04:25] <frank1> someone please help!! swoody was helping me the other night but was only able to do half the work. now my system wont boot
[04:26] <krhahn> i'm wokring on two machines...  I could get the file from the file manager it's pasted on http://paste.ubuntu.com/416439/
[04:26] <pedro3005> krhahn, comment the first line
[04:26] <pedro3005> save
[04:26] <pedro3005> run
[04:27] <pedro3005> sudo apt-get update
[04:27] <krhahn> sorry...  How do i place a comment
[04:27] <pedro3005> krhahn, put a # at the beginning of the line
[04:28] <krhahn> thanks...  just the first line? do i have to break the comment anywhere?
[04:31] <robbmunson> krhahn, no, just put a #
[04:32] <krhahn> it won't let me save changes to the file when I open with gedit
[04:32] <robbmunson> # is a single line comment, commonly used in programming, and understood by many programs as such...
[04:32] <robbmunson> krhahn, gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:32] <robbmunson> then try again :)
[04:32] <robbmunson> ^ this should be run in a terminal
[04:32] <robbmunson> !terminal
[04:32] <Votebot> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[04:33] <robbmunson> be back in a few...pedro if you wanna slide back in be my guest, im bouncing back and forth.
[04:47] <krhahn> I can't get the sources.file to open with administrative privileges. Is there something I am missing?  I have typed: gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal and it runs for a couple of seconds then...  nothing
[04:48] <pedro3005> krhahn, it's gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:48] <pedro3005> don't forget the gedit
[04:48] <krhahn> oh...  that wan't in the message originally...  thanks
[04:49] <pedro3005> bad robbmunson :p
[04:49] <krhahn> lol
[04:50] <robbmunson> frigggggggg
[04:50] <robbmunson> pedro3005, I owe you one man!
[04:51] <pedro3005> robbmunson, no worries :)
[04:51]  * robbmunson was kinda rushed to go do something :)
[04:51] <krhahn> thanks you both for all of your help... fingers crossed
[04:51] <pedro3005> robbmunson, now write it a hundred times by sun rise or I'll have your balls cut off :P
[04:52] <robbmunson> pedro3005, .......
[04:52] <pedro3005> robbmunson, oh come on, it's monty python!
[04:53] <frank1> actually i think you should make him bring you a shrubbery
[04:53] <robbmunson> well, at least my command wouldnt have killed your system krhahn...thats the good part about my mess up, bad thing is...I knew better, I used to be one of those guys ^
[04:54] <frank1> anyone think they can fix someone elses wrongdoings?
[04:54] <robbmunson> frank1, hmm....guidance wise or what?
[04:54] <frank1> lol
[04:54] <frank1> nah technical computer stuff thats over my head
[04:55] <frank1> way over my head
[04:55] <krhahn> pedro3005 and robbmunson: still no go...
[04:55] <krhahn> wait...  typo
[04:57] <krhahn> No...  Still getting the same GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic release
[04:58] <robbmunson> krhahn, what was the EXACT error again?
[04:59] <pedro3005> krhahn, paste the file again
[04:59] <pedro3005> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <pedro3005> robbmunson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/416436/
[04:59]  * robbmunson is really getting annoyed at not being able to solve this.....
[05:01] <krhahn> pase.ubuntu.com/416450
[05:01] <krhahn> paste.ubuntu.com/416450
[05:02] <krhahn> I have been working on this for three days so i know how you feel
[05:02] <pedro3005> krhahn, and the output of "sudo apt-get update"?
[05:04] <krhahn> paste.ubuntu.com/416451/
[05:07] <pedro3005> krhahn, it's bcmwl-kernel-source
[05:07] <pedro3005> you misspelled it
[05:07] <krhahn1> okay
[05:07] <krhahn1> I just logged into this this chat on the computer in question so i can copy and paste
[05:07] <krhahn1> I wil ltry again
[05:13] <krhahn1> do i need to re-boot for any changes to take effect?
[05:13] <pedro3005> krhahn, probably not
[05:13] <robbmunson> krhahn, probably not but it would not hurt.
[05:13] <pedro3005> well, if it is WIFI, perhaps
[05:14] <pedro3005> "Note: A computer restart may be required before using the wifi card. "
[05:14] <krhahn1> okay...  let me try that
[05:17] <robbmunson> The veteran still knows a thing or two?
[05:17] <krhahn1> Hi guys:
[05:17] <robbmunson> krhahn, did it work?
[05:17] <krhahn1> I re-booted and I still can not get the drivers to install
[05:18] <pedro3005> krhahn, means you can't find it at the hardware drivers?
[05:19] <krhahn1> I see the driver but it won't load
[05:19] <pedro3005> krhahn, try this
[05:19] <pedro3005> sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[05:21] <krhahn1> did that before...  says "already newest version"
[05:25] <krhahn1> would you like to see a screen shot of the error message I am getting?
[05:28] <krhahn1> hello?
[05:31] <pedro3005> krhahn, sorry
[05:31] <pedro3005> no, no need for a screen shot
[05:31] <pedro3005> krhahn, and you are sure it is not working?
[05:33] <krhahn1> yes...  when i click on the network in the task bar (upper right) it shows the wireless connection but says disabled
[05:33] <krhahn1> sorry
[05:33] <krhahn1> disconnected
[05:33] <pedro3005> krhahn, what's the output of iwconfig?
[05:34] <robbmunson> "no wireless extensions." means we have some minor issues...just a little hint....
[05:34] <krhahn1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/416460/  yes...  no wireless extensions
[05:34]  * robbmunson is using a computer without wireless...and thats a true statement for me because I dont need it...
[05:35] <robbmunson> but, obviously you do.
[05:35] <krhahn1> i do
[05:35] <krhahn1> unfortunately
[05:35] <robbmunson> krhahn, not a problem though!
[05:36] <krhahn1> okay
[05:37] <robbmunson> can you pastebin the output of "iwconfig" for us?
[05:37] <robbmunson> (without anything behind it)
[05:38] <krhahn1> i did http://paste.ubuntu.com/416460/
[05:38] <krhahn1> what do you mean by nothing behind it?
[05:38]  * robbmunson is sorry...man I need sleep :P
[05:38] <krhahn1> okay... me too
[05:38] <robbmunson> krhahn, nevermind you did just that for it ;)
[05:38] <krhahn1> do you think we are close?
[05:39] <robbmunson> we are so close I can smell it and it smells like bacon (a bit of a linux joke)
[05:39] <krhahn1> I like bacon!
[05:43] <krhahn1> be right back
[05:43]  * robbmunson has a confession to make....
[05:43]  * robbmunson is reading the man pages...and im officially lost
[05:44] <pedro3005> sorry to leave you, but I'm craving some sleep
[05:44] <krhahn1> Should I try to pick this back up tomorrow?
[05:45] <pedro3005> krhahn, I wish you good luck; be back on tomorrow if you need
[05:45] <robbmunson> krhahn, im gonna go dig some stuff up...im not gonna leave it till I get it right man...I dont leave things half finished ;)
[05:45] <krhahn1> thanks pedro3005
[05:45] <pedro3005> robbmunson, I can take a hint
[05:45] <pedro3005> :P
[05:46] <krhahn1> thanks  robbmunson
[05:47] <krhahn1> pedro3005 i'm tired too so feel free to go if you need to.  I appreciate all of your help!
[05:47] <robbmunson> krhahn, sure bud...since you at least have 1 computer with internet...
[05:48] <krhahn1> okay...  Is there a time that is good to log in?
[05:49] <krhahn1> Like after 6:00 eastern?
[05:49] <krhahn1> US
[05:49] <krhahn1> PM
[05:50] <robbmunson> krhahn, any of us can help you at any time bud...i mean I am so sporadic in my logins that I may not even log in tomorrow (I will try like heck to though, I have a birthday party to attend)
[05:51] <krhahn1> Okay...  Thanks for your help.  Is there something i should say when I ask for help so I don't waste a lot of someone's time re-hashing what we did tonight?
[05:52] <krhahn1> Is there a log I can refer someone too?
[05:54] <robbmunson> krhahn, you might have to re-establish to them our talks, tell them that you are having wireless network issues trying to connect to your own network.
[05:55] <krhahn1> thanks...  Will do.
[05:55] <krhahn1> Good night
[05:55] <robbmunson> tell them its wlan0 that you need the command to point to.. (I would have it right off..but im exhausted)
[06:35] <nomnex> help with Jabber accounts on empathy
[06:36] <nomnex> Can I have a Google account, can I connect Jabber accounts with it on empathy? how
[06:41] <nomnex> nobody uses empathy around here?
[07:03] <Akos> nomnex: i do. And what do you mean by connecting jabber accounts?
[07:54] <hobgoblin> morning - anyone in here that uses opera?
[07:57] <nomnex> Akos, still there? Empathy here, with a gmail talk account (my gmail account), I have received a Jabber id "Jocker", a friend to contact, can I go through? and how?
[08:03] <C-Ray> Hello
[08:03] <C-Ray> Please my open office is not checking for spelling and Grammar mistakes anymore
[08:03] <C-Ray> am using ubuntu 9.10\
[08:03] <C-Ray> and open office 3.2 [updated today]
[08:03] <C-Ray> any ideas?
[08:09] <aagb> hi
[08:11] <aagb> super n00b question here,  how to i scan for appropriate details to setup wireless.  i checked forums but i need some more help, thanks.
[08:12] <aagb> ?
[08:13] <C-Ray> I think no one is here man
[08:13] <C-Ray> maybe I can help
[08:13] <aagb> oh right
[08:13] <aagb> only got unbuntu today trying to set up wireless on it
[08:13] <C-Ray> you want to setup wireless
[08:14] <aagb> apparently i can get SSID and BSSID off the router?  would be better if i knew how to scan tho
[08:14] <C-Ray> do you see this kind of icon on your menu that says wireless connection
[08:15] <aagb> ?
[08:15] <aagb> dont thin kso
[08:16] <C-Ray> preferences -> netwrok connections
[08:16] <C-Ray> go theer
[08:16] <aagb> i have network connections window open and thought add new connection there
[08:16] <aagb> lol, yeh thats where i am
[08:16] <aagb> oh hold on 1 sec
[08:16] <hobgoblin> C-Ray: can you check a couple of things for the spelling - Format - Character - Language
[08:16] <aagb> yep, definetly, thats where i am
[08:17] <C-Ray> yeah am checking those now in forums
[08:17] <aagb> so i  know the SSID thats easy
[08:17] <C-Ray> I started with the format thing
[08:17] <C-Ray> yeah aagb
[08:17] <C-Ray> good
[08:18] <hobgoblin> C-Ray: also - Tools - Options - Language Settings - Writing Aids
[08:18] <C-Ray> so go to the wireless tab
[08:18] <aagb> done.
[08:18] <C-Ray> well I am there but I can't change anything with it
[08:18] <aagb> mode=ad hoc?
[08:18] <C-Ray> it says ignore all
[08:18] <C-Ray> while am not able to remove the tick
[08:19] <C-Ray> yeach click add aagb
[08:19] <C-Ray> well for the mode it depends
[08:19] <C-Ray> what do you have?
[08:20] <aagb> wireless ADSL thru a LAN
[08:20] <C-Ray> leave it as it is then, go for the rest of the settings and give it a shoot
[08:21] <C-Ray> don't place sicurity first
[08:21] <aagb> ?
[08:21] <C-Ray> try it without security
[08:21] <aagb> how do i get the BSSID ?
[08:21] <C-Ray> I mean leave it to default
[08:21] <aagb> yeh, i leaving on default now
[08:22] <C-Ray> bssid leave it empty at the moment
[08:22] <aagb> so just enter the SSID and try connect like that, it will search for connection?
[08:23] <C-Ray> am not sure, but try
[08:23] <C-Ray> am not an expert here, just an end-user
[08:23] <aagb> how do i connect then?
[08:23] <C-Ray> when you add the connection
[08:24] <C-Ray> you must see the connection name on the wireless tab where you have the option to connect
[08:24] <aagb> ill bb, let me have  a bit of a digg.  no i dont see sh1t
[08:24] <aagb> ...
[08:24] <C-Ray> ok
[08:24] <aagb> thats what im asking.  thats why i came here because i cannot connect
[08:24] <aagb> i am on a different pc
[08:25] <C-Ray> of course you are on a different pc
[08:25] <C-Ray> otherwise you won't be here
[08:25] <aagb> yeah
[08:25] <C-Ray> :D
[08:26] <C-Ray> ask some people here
[08:26] <C-Ray> they can provide you with much help than me
[08:26] <C-Ray> :(
[08:26] <aagb> i am not sure what u mean above, re connection name on wireless tab.  i could add the connection profile (apply) but i cannot find a way for it to search by SSID
[08:26] <aagb> doesnt matter
[08:26] <aagb> thanx for tryin anyway :)
[08:26] <aagb> ill just keepin diggin
[08:27] <C-Ray> I will solve my problem then I will try with yours again ok
[08:27] <C-Ray> :)
[08:35] <hobgoblin> C-Ray: did you check those ^^
[08:36] <C-Ray> I will send you the images
[08:36] <C-Ray> so maybe you can help me out
[08:36] <C-Ray> one second
[08:36] <C-Ray> please
[08:41] <C-Ray> http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/3286857/img/3286857.png
[08:42] <C-Ray> http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/3286856/img/3286856.png
[08:42] <C-Ray> I was checking those
[08:43] <C-Ray> I don't know what to check else
[08:43] <C-Ray> :(
[08:47] <hobgoblin> mmm - possibly it is the character setup then - not sure tbh - though what I will say is that when I have had issues with openoffice I have used their forums - they are excellent
[08:47] <C-Ray> am using the forums now
[08:47] <C-Ray> hope I will be able to dig something out
[08:47] <hobgoblin> openoffice ones?
[08:47] <C-Ray> yeah
[08:48] <C-Ray> thanks for your help anyway :)
[08:48] <hobgoblin> :)
[08:50] <hobgoblin> C-Ray: from memory any issues I had with oo and spell check was down to the languages not matching
[08:52] <C-Ray> I think I need to install the hunspell thing
[09:26] <hobgoblin> morning - anyone in here that uses opera? got issues with fonts ...
[09:30] <smeag0l> morning hobgoblin i am sorry but i don't use opera :/
[09:33] <hobgoblin> hi smeag0l :) and that's ok ... I don't normally either but I am trying to sort the fonts they are pretty much awful lol
[12:05] <_CommandeR_> !panels
[13:34] <we-r1> Is the Ubuntu Music Store accesible on Ubuntu 9.10?
[16:24] <LzrdKing> ext3 or ext4 (or something else) for karmic? how about lucid?
[16:36] <geirha> LzrdKing: Yes and yes.
[16:40] <LzrdKing> swapfile or swap partition?
[16:43] <ikt> swapfile
[16:43] <ikt> swap partition
[16:43] <ikt> aren't they both the same thing?
[16:43] <LzrdKing> no, one is a separate partition, the other is a file on an existing partition
[16:44] <ikt> http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/7/7/326
[16:45] <ikt> In 2.6 they have the same reliability and they will have the same performance unless the swapfile is badly fragmented.
[16:45] <ikt> though I have a swap partition I don't think I've seen it ever used
[16:46] <ikt> advantage of having 4gb of ram
[16:46] <LzrdKing> i only have 2gb
[16:47] <ikt> that's alright
[16:47] <LzrdKing> ok, forget about a swapfile, i have an 80GB harddrive, i'm going to just use a 2gb swap partition, and if it's wasted space, so be it!
[16:48] <ikt> that's my philosophy
[16:50] <LzrdKing> can lucid and karmic share a /home, and/or other directories?
[16:50] <LzrdKing> i mean, is it a good idea
[16:54] <paultag> LzrdKing, :)
[16:54] <paultag> LzrdKing, kinda sort almost
[16:54] <paultag> LzrdKing, I did that for a while but there are some issues with that
[16:54] <paultag> LzrdKing, if you can match every package down to the version on each of the installs then yes, but if you do that then they are the same
[16:55] <paultag> LzrdKing, because home is where all your files are. What you can do is this:
[16:55] <paultag> LzrdKing, partition the drive out, get a solid 10 gigs or so off the main install, and set it up to mount on /Share or something, then ln -s the /Share folder to ~/Share
[16:56] <paultag> LzrdKing, then you can save stuff in ~/Share and it will be shared between all your installs. If you use Windows, it would make sense to use vfat for Share, otherwise something like ext3 / 4 will do really well
[16:56] <LzrdKing> here's what i'm going to do:  my 75GB XP partion will be shrank to 20GB for WinXP, then 26GB for karmic, 26GB for lucid, and 2GB swap :)
[16:56] <LzrdKing> and lucid and karmic will be totally separate
[16:56] <LzrdKing> sound good?
[16:57] <Jon_Monreal> LzrdKing, you might want to consider smaller individual partitions and a common FAT32 or NTFS partition for files.
[17:00] <LzrdKing> ok, 20gb for xp, 10 for lucid, 10 for karmic, 2 for swap and the rest unallocated
[17:02] <LzrdKing> and swap goes at the end of the drive
[17:05] <LzrdKing> its all done, time to reboot into XP and see what damage was done there :)
[17:09] <CtrlAlt> isn't it possible to share the /home folder? maybe by making a partition for all the files, setting it up to mount automatically, and then just linking all the folders manually, one by one?
[17:20] <LzrdKing> was it a bad idea to point unetbootin to an iso on a samba server?
[17:23] <ikt> don't think so why?
[17:24] <LzrdKing> its going really slow
[17:27] <ikt> did that with mine as well
[17:27] <ikt> and it was on the same drive as win7 + ssd drive
[17:29] <LzrdKing> weird, the router is seeing a transfer going to the client at 3MBps, but the server is only seeing it sending at 1MBps
[17:35] <LzrdKing> umm, is it pulling every package out of the iso?
[17:35] <Jon_Monreal> Well that really isn't too bad, now is it?
[17:35] <LzrdKing> Jon_Monreal: 8 would be better
[17:36] <Jon_Monreal> LzrdKing, yeah it would be better, but if you burn your CDs at lowest possible speed, I don't imagine it's much slower
[17:38] <Jon_Monreal> LzrdKig, have you noticed the problem before, or just with unetbootin?
[17:39] <LzrdKing> i only use the computer to stream video from my server, and sometimes that will get a little slow for a moment, but lately my tivo has been pausing a lot streaming from the same server, so i think it's my router
[18:24] <man0riaX> Hey
[18:28] <ikt> heya man0riaX
[18:28] <man0riaX> :)
[19:02] <LzrdKing> when i install unetbootin, it doesn't edit my boot.ini in windows so it can't boot the ubuntu installer.  What do i need to add to boot.ini so it will?
[19:04] <LzrdKing> nevermind, i found it :)
[19:11] <LzrdKing> grrr! unetbootin can't find my "cdrom" drive but the install files are on /dev/sda1 and i can't mount it!
[19:14] <LzrdKing> i get "mount: mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt failed: invalid argument (i'm mounting with "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[19:17] <Jon_Monreal> What exactly are you trying to do? Point unetbootin to the CD drive?
[19:17] <LzrdKing> yeah
[19:17] <Jon_Monreal> (Instead of an ISO)?
[19:17] <LzrdKing> if possible
[19:18] <LzrdKing> i probably should have had untebootin download an image instead of using the one i already downloaded
[19:18] <Jon_Monreal> I've never heard of that being done and I don't believe it's supported. Why don't you make an ISO from the CD and then use the ISO with unetbootin.
[19:18] <LzrdKing> well, i have an iso but its stuck on sda1
[19:19] <LzrdKing> and it'll still look for a cd, which i don't currently have
[19:20] <LzrdKing> i'll just burn my iso to a dvd
[19:20] <LzrdKing> which i wanted to avoid having to do
[19:20] <Jon_Monreal> So your problem is that you can't mount /dev/sda1 ?
[19:20] <LzrdKing> yeah
[19:21] <LzrdKing> and if i used mount -t ntfs it told me "device not found"
[19:21] <Jon_Monreal> Oh it's NTFS
[19:21] <LzrdKing> yeah, but sda2 and sda3 are not and it found't mount them either
[19:21] <LzrdKing> couldn't
[19:21] <LzrdKing> they should be ext3
[19:22] <LzrdKing> i just booted back into windows to burn a disc
[19:23] <Jon_Monreal> I'm sorry, I wasn't here when you started first came here. What is your setup? As in, what OS are you using now, and where is it located?
[19:24] <LzrdKing> xp on sda1, ubuntu will go on sda2
[19:25] <Jon_Monreal> Are you currently using a LiveCD then, or Linux on another partition?
[19:25] <LzrdKing> unetbootin
[19:25] <LzrdKing> well, i will be using the 9.10-server cd in a moment
[19:27] <Jon_Monreal> So you're currently using a unetbootin LiveUSB installation and trying to create another LiveUSB? You could always boot into Windows if that's where the ISO you want to make into a LiveUSB is and use unetbootin for Windows.
[19:28] <LzrdKing> i wanted to install from my xp partition to a new blank partition, it seemed to allow this but maybe it doesn't
[19:29] <LzrdKing> i'll just boot with the disc and install from there
[19:30] <Jon_Monreal> I see. I've never tried this, but I think it would work. However, unetbootin doesn't create a persistent installation, so every time you reboot it would stop. Also, as far as I'm aware, you can only use LiveCD ISOs with unetbootin, so a server or minimal install CD wouldn't work.
[19:31] <LzrdKing> what is ubuntu enterprise cloud?
[19:33] <LzrdKing> :( installer can't find my wireless nic
[19:34] <Jon_Monreal> That would be Ubuntu Server with packages on top of it so that you can deploy a cloud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing)
[19:34] <Jon_Monreal> Are you using the server ISO, the minimal install, or the LiveCD?
[19:35] <LzrdKing> server iso
[19:36] <Jon_Monreal> Then it makes sense that unetbootin didn't work
[19:37] <LzrdKing> yes, now it does
[19:37] <Jon_Monreal> Could you type "lspci | grep -i "network\|ethernet" minus the quotes and post the output here?
[19:38] <Jon_Monreal> Sorry, minus the first quote
[19:38] <Jon_Monreal> Include the quotes around "network\|ethernet"
[19:39] <Jon_Monreal> lspci | grep -i "network\|ethernet"
[19:39] <LzrdKing> i can't paste but it does show the intel ABG wireless card and the broadcom gigabit wired card
[19:42] <Jon_Monreal> You could try apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-YOURKERNEL-server, replacing YOURKERNEL with your full kernel version, for example 2.X.XX-XX
[19:43] <Jon_Monreal> Actually just do: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`-server
[19:44] <Jon_Monreal> That should automatically put your kernel version in
[19:46] <LzrdKing> i will do that after it's done installing, thanks :)
[19:47] <LzrdKing> as i have no apt-get yet
[19:47] <Jon_Monreal> Yeah
[19:47] <Jon_Monreal> Well yeah, you'll have to install first
[19:48] <LzrdKing> what is ubuntu enterprise cloud?
[19:53] <LzrdKing> no package of that name
[19:53] <Jon_Monreal> If you want Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud you should select it when installing
[19:54] <Jon_Monreal> http://www.ubuntu.com/files/masthead/910/cloud/cloud_private_2.png
[19:54] <Jon_Monreal> See http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private
[19:54] <frank1> jon: are you familiar with installing /home on a second hard drive?
[19:55] <LzrdKing> ok, i mean no package named linux-restricted-modules-MYKERNEL-server
[19:55] <Jon_Monreal> frank1: Yeah, how can I help?
[19:56] <frank1> well someone in here was helping me thursday night and since than my comp is all kinds of messed up
[19:56] <Jon_Monreal> LzrdKing: No, there won't be a package with MYKERNEL in it. You had to replace MYKERNEL with your kernel version. Use this instead: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`-server
[19:57] <LzrdKing> i did, i just didn't want to type all that
[19:57] <Jon_Monreal> frank1: Do you know what the location of the second hard drive's partition is
[19:57] <frank1> i have a 250gb hd that is totally full. i just bought a 1tb hd as an addition. i wanted to move all my media onto the new 1tb hd and keep the 250hd running only ubuntu and its required programs
[19:58] <Jon_Monreal> LzrdKing: try the other command I sent you. Note that you might need an internet connection in order to get it.
[19:58] <LzrdKing> Jon_Monreal: well how would that work?  i need an internet connection to install the drivers i need for an internet connection....
[19:58] <Jon_Monreal> LzrdKing: Ethernet?
[19:59] <frank1> swoody helped me to transfer my home over onto the new 1tb hd. i went to sleep while it transfered. when i got up i was unable to delete the first /home because of lag and was forced to reboot. now i cant get the computer to load ununtu. im running on a live cd now just so that i can get some help
[20:00] <Jon_Monreal> frank1: Is Grub still working? That is, do you see this screen: http://thegabfather.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/grub4kt.jpg or does it say anything past the initial BIOS screen?
[20:01] <zch3> Can anyone assist me in the installation of Tor in a whisper?
[20:01] <zch3> I have followed the instructions on Tor's website but I've run in to some issues.
[20:02] <frank1> i dont see that screen but it does let me try and login under my username. thats when i get three error messages
[20:02] <Jon_Monreal> frank1: Can you post them here?
[20:02] <frank1> sure
[20:02] <Jon_Monreal> LzrdKing: Wait, did you try connecting to a network?
[20:02] <frank1> first: could not update ICE authority file /home/beans/.ICE authority
[20:03] <Jon_Monreal> zch3: What kind of issues are you running into?
[20:03] <zch3> Just a second
[20:03] <zch3> I'll post the error
[20:03] <frank1> second: there is a problem with th congiguration server (/urs/lib/libconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[20:04] <zch3> After issuing the command 'sudo apt-get install tor-tor geoipdb'  per the Tor websites instructions I get this
[20:04] <zch3> Reading package lists... Done
[20:04] <zch3> Building dependency tree
[20:04] <zch3> Reading state information... Done
[20:04] <zch3> Package tor is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:04] <zch3> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[20:04] <zch3> is only available from another source
[20:04] <zch3> E: Package tor has no installation candidate
[20:04] <zch3> Tor's website has no explination though
[20:04] <frank1> third: nautilis could not create the following required folders: /home/beans/desktop, /home/beand/.nautilis..................befor running nautilis please create these folders
[20:05] <frank1> than a window pops up with inclomplete language support and the screen turns yellow
[20:05] <LzrdKing> `yay! its online
[20:09] <frank1> this is the walk through he was trying to help me with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving.  i was unable to do "a sneaky maneuver" it said that no such place existed.
[20:09] <frank1> i figured i could pick up at that point after i restarted but no such luck
[20:13] <Jon_Monreal> frank1: So you still have your old home as old_home?
[20:13] <LzrdKing> 6how do i nstall a local .deb?
[20:14] <frank1> Jon_Monreal: im not sure. how do i check that. im on a live cd now and i have a home folder on both drives.....or so it appears
[20:15] <Jon_Monreal> frank1: You have a /home on both drives? Give me a minute and we'll switch you back to the old one for now just to make sure everything works still.
[20:15] <frank1> Jon_Monreal: yea on the 250bg drive i have a folder named old home which has all mu media
[20:16] <Jon_Monreal> LzrdKing: Simply cd into the directory where the deb is and then type: dpkg -i yourfile.deb
[20:16] <Jon_Monreal> LzrdKing: replace yourfile with the filename
[20:16] <LzrdKing> i need the deps for it though
[20:18] <Jon_Monreal> Aren't you connected to the Internet?
[20:21] <Jon_Monreal> frank1: Sorry if this is taking a while.
[20:22] <frank1> Jon_Monreal: thats ok. i thought maybe i was just laggy
[20:24] <Jon_Monreal> zch3: Make sure you have the filename right
[20:26] <Jon_Monreal> frank1: I have to run, but what you could try to do would be to boot into a repair console in Ubuntu and do the reverse of what you did before.
[20:26] <frank1> if  i had any clue as to what i did before i might try that
[20:27] <Jon_Monreal> So, to anyone who might come into this chat to help: frank1 is having problems with no home directory being found because it was changed to a partition on another drive, LzrdKing needs help with installing packages offline, and zch3 needs help installing Tor
[20:27] <Jon_Monreal> Sorry guys, but I really have to run
[20:27] <frank1> thanks anyways , maybe later
[20:27] <Jon_Monreal> Yeah, I'll be back later
[20:27] <Jon_Monreal> Bye
[20:54] <frank1> any one here?
[20:55] <malev> hi there!! where can I check the version of the program of a current release of ubuntu. for exaple, what version was gwibber in the alpha 1 of lucid version?
[21:08] <geirha> malev: Not sure. You could perhaps look at the changelog, and look for the last change before the alpha1 release
[21:08] <geirha> aptitude changelog gwibber
[21:09] <geirha> That is, find it by date
[21:09] <malev> cool! thanks!!
[21:16] <LzrdKing> i'm thinking i probably should have installed ubuntu-desktop
[21:47] <LzrdKing> is there an application like gdm for graphical logins that don't require 109 gnome libs?
[21:56] <nhandler> LzrdKing: kdm
[21:59] <zch3> Having some issues with watching DVDs.  I cant get the DVD menu to work and the intro to the main menu plays but the actual movie itself wqont play
[21:59] <zch3> Any advice?
[21:59] <zch3> I tried movie player and vlc
[22:05] <pedro3005> zch3, you have the necessary codecs and everything?
[22:07] <zch3> yes
[22:07] <zch3> the video for the intro plays fine
[22:07] <zch3> but one the menu comes up
[22:07] <zch3> i select play
[22:07] <zch3> and nada
[22:07] <zch3> can not read resource
[22:07] <zch3> im going to try the medi buntu package
[22:07] <pleia2> zch3: does it do this with every dvd?
[22:08] <zch3> i only have this one dvd
[22:08] <zch3> lol
[22:08] <zch3> i wish i could compare
[22:08] <pleia2> there are sometimes weird problems with some dvds playing on computers (not just in linux)
[22:08] <zch3> this is a national geographic cd no way!
[22:08] <zch3> im sure it i booted into os x this would run
[22:08] <zch3> but once again
[22:09] <zch3> i comitted and wipre os x for ubuntu
[22:09] <zch3> lol
[22:09] <pleia2> ok, just figured I'd ask since that's one way to troubleshoot, but if you only have one dvd... not so much :)
[22:10] <zch3> i suck
[22:10] <zch3> dire ircumstances right now
[22:10] <zch3> not exactly home
[22:31] <pedro3005> a
[23:04] <LzrdKing> can anyone help me get sound through external speakers on my dell d620?  it just comes out the pc speaker
[23:20] <Trippi> Anyone know how to set up the usb to make it bootable for the netbook edition? The manual made no since to me
[23:20] <LzrdKing> in alsamixer, iec958 and iec958D are stuck at 00
[23:22] <Trippi> I'm sorry what?
[23:23] <LzrdKing> i need help getting sound through external speakers on my dell d620.  it just comes out the pc speaker
[23:23] <LzrdKing> and in alsamixer, iec958 and iec958D are stuck at 00
[23:23] <Trippi> ah, talking to someone else, ok
[23:25] <Trippi> got any idea how you make the bootable flash? it says the card needs to be set up to be bootable, but it doesn't give a good idea how to go about doing that to the card
[23:25] <LzrdKing> no, the channel
[23:25] <LzrdKing> it should happen as part of the usb install
[23:26] <Trippi> oh i see, in the manual on how to do it on there site it doesn't tell you or show you to click two different icons, just one of them
[23:26] <Trippi> click both and there you go, that was annoying
[23:26] <Trippi> thx
[23:28] <LzrdKing> seems to be a kernel issue
[23:30] <LzrdKing> wait... its working now!
[23:31] <LzrdKing> hooray!
[23:32] <LzrdKing> i had to mute Master