[18:55] <persia> Anyone use visualvm?
[19:28] <ksemeks> Hi
[19:29] <persia> Hey
[20:11] <ksemeks> i have a question. how could i run my code from a folder, say i want to run 'java /path/to/file/file', how could i do it?
[20:12] <persia> That doesn't just work?
[20:12] <ksemeks> no, it gets me an error, that it cannot find the main method
[20:12] <ksemeks> there are 3 files in the folder, but i only call 1
[20:12] <persia> Adn the code is known to work?
[20:13] <ksemeks> yes, the code works normally when i run it from the folder
[20:13] <persia> What's different about "normally"?
[20:13] <ksemeks> different is when i try to run it from without the folder, then i get the errror
[20:16] <persia> Sounds like an issue with CLASSPATH to me.
[20:20] <ksemeks> might be, but does this mean that every time i want to run a file from out the folder, i have to include the path to the folder ini the classpath?
[20:20] <nthykier> ksemeks: you have to use "java -cp $dir classname" rather than java $dir/classname
[20:22] <ksemeks> ty nthykier, it works fine now :)
[20:22] <persia> nthykier: You don't happen to know where I might found the source download for visualvm, do you?  There's a new upstream bugfix, but I'm only finding binary downloads :(
[20:23] <nthykier> persia: nope sorry - never heard of it
[20:23] <persia> nthykier: OK.  Thanks.  ( https://visualvm.dev.java.net/ )
[21:29] <doko_> nthykier, persia: are there any eclipse plugins/extensions already packaged?
[21:30] <nthykier> doko_: We got eclipse-emf and eclipse-rse nearly ready
[21:30] <persia> nthykier and you had some eclipse-helper scripts, right?
[21:30] <nthykier> persia: yes
[21:31] <doko_> nthykier: any guide how to do extension/plugin packaging? looking at pydev
[21:31] <persia> doko_: IF you have time, could you give me some guidance on how to build the tarballs for visualvm?  I'd like to push the new upstream to lucid.
[21:31] <nthykier> doko_: My helpers are geared towards buildless features
[21:32] <nthykier> doko_: Not sure they are useful if upstream ships their own build
[21:32] <doko_> persia: hahaha ... bulding the tarballs is the problem
[21:33] <doko_> nthykier: I thought you did include the build bits from fedora?
[21:33] <persia> I see :)  Do you happen to know where one might find the extra bit?  http://icedtea.classpath.org/visualvm/ seems stuck at 6.5
[21:33] <nthykier> doko_: I do - my helpers wraps those
[21:34] <nthykier> The Fedora helper is in /usr/lib/eclipse/buildscripts/pde-build
[21:34] <doko_> persia: yes, look at the 500gb netbeans 6.8 checkout. it's on my radar, no need to do the work twice
[21:35] <persia> Oh, if you7re doing it, I'll skip it.  Juli appears to have already uploaded NB6.8, so that's in place.
[21:35] <persia> Thanks :)
[21:42] <ksemeks> is stack in C the same stack of java?
[21:44] <nthykier> ksemeks: The datatype ? They bear similarities - the call/value stack? No
[21:45] <ksemeks> i meant the call/value one.. al right.. ty
[21:45] <nthykier> ksemeks: You cannot access the call/value stack in java
[21:47] <ksemeks> ok. and the constructor 'lives' in the stack too? or?
[21:48] <persia> ksemeks: You may want to ask some of these questions in ##java : we tend to focus on packaging stuff in this channel.
[21:48] <ksemeks> oh, ok. :)