| ubottu | rww called the ops in #ubuntu (Resbaloso) | 00:50 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | In ubottu, rww said: !no, truecrypt is =~ s/Truecypt/Truecrypt/ | 00:56 |
| h00k | oho, rww is correct | 00:57 |
| Flannel | Blah | 00:57 |
| Flannel | and I just made a mistake | 00:57 |
| Flannel | compounded with another mistake! | 00:57 |
| Flannel | !No, Truecrypt | 00:58 |
| ubottu | Truecrypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume | 00:58 |
| Flannel | yay capitalization errors ;) | 00:58 |
| Flannel | !forget No, truecrypt | 00:59 |
| ubottu | I know nothing about No, truecrypt yet, Flannel | 00:59 |
| Flannel | blah | 00:59 |
| Flannel | there we go. | 00:59 |
| Flannel | !no, truecrypt | 00:59 |
| Flannel | !truecrypt | 00:59 |
| ubottu | Truecrypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume | 00:59 |
| funkyHat | Am A Ranth! | 02:02 |
| Seeker` | who is mentoring the new ops? | 02:16 |
| IdleOne | He who smelt it :P | 02:16 |
| Seeker` | ... | 02:17 |
| IdleOne | Seeker`: not sure but I think we are supposed to be contacted sometime soon | 02:17 |
| tsimpson | IdleOne: has no one contacted you yet? | 02:26 |
| IdleOne | not that I have seen | 02:26 |
| IdleOne | not in email or via irc | 02:26 |
| IdleOne | I'm sort of used to being thrown into the pool and learning to swim | 02:27 |
| IdleOne | so no worries, also I am not shy to ask a question if I don't know the answer | 02:28 |
| tsimpson | I'll have to poke someone about that | 02:28 |
| tsimpson | a mentor may not be necessary, but it's nice to have :) | 02:28 |
| IdleOne | The way I see it you are all mentors | 02:29 |
| IdleOne | I am sure if I ask any of you something you will all be glad to answer | 02:29 |
| IdleOne | tsimpson: who was your mentor? | 02:29 |
| tsimpson | txwikinger | 02:30 |
| tsimpson | sorry for the highlight ;) | 02:30 |
| IdleOne | So new ops having mentors is not a new thing? | 02:30 |
| tsimpson | it is new, you lot are the first | 02:31 |
| Pici | IdleOne: he means thats the person that he is mentoring. We never had mentors. | 02:31 |
| tsimpson | oh, who >was< | 02:31 |
| * tsimpson should not read at 2:30am | 02:31 | |
| Seeker` | nope, typing without reading is much better... | 02:32 |
| IdleOne | Pici: :) you turned out ok | 02:32 |
| tsimpson | Seeker`: as long as I have spell check enabled | 02:32 |
| Seeker` | I remember when I became an op | 02:33 |
| Seeker` | was very different back then | 02:33 |
| IdleOne | I do think that it would be nice for the new ops (myself included) if there was a wiki page with useful resources. all the links we need, a bad word highlight list (this could be difficult to put on a wiki) and probably other info | 02:34 |
| IdleOne | either that or a ubuntu-op script for irssi and xchat | 02:35 |
| tsimpson | an operator guide is in the process of being created | 02:35 |
| tsimpson | scripts are good, but make sure you know how to do things manually too | 02:35 |
| IdleOne | actually the ubuntu-op script would be good either way | 02:35 |
| Pici | I have a set of irssi aliases that I use myself. I wasn't a fan of auto_bleh.pl | 02:36 |
| IdleOne | Pici: I use chanserv.py but I was thinking more like the old days with the Oper scripts on Mirc but not as lame | 02:37 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: There isn't a "bad word hilight list" | 02:37 |
| tsimpson | well most ops who use xchat use chansrv.py | 02:38 |
| IdleOne | Flannel: yeah but a list that clearly defines what can't be said might be useful in times of arbitration | 02:38 |
| Flannel | I've got auto_bleh if you use irssi | 02:38 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: That doesn't exist, use your judgement | 02:38 |
| IdleOne | Flannel: I do. but I saw earlier in -offtopic discussion about effin being or not being a curse | 02:39 |
| tsimpson | that's why ops are human (most are anyway) | 02:39 |
| * IdleOne is hooman | 02:39 | |
| Flannel | IdleOne: If someone's swearing for the sake of swearing, its generally a good idea to mention it | 02:40 |
| IdleOne | then again maybe defining every little thing is not a good idea | 02:41 |
| tsimpson | yep, having a list only makes it possible for people to say "but, it's not on your list of bad words" | 02:41 |
| IdleOne | Flannel: I normally do | 02:41 |
| IdleOne | tsimpson: agreed | 02:41 |
| Pici | I have some common stuff on my hilight list, but thats for my own purposes. | 02:42 |
| IdleOne | I need my glasses | 02:43 |
| Pici | Anyway, this is what I use for aliases for irssi: http://nullcortex.com/upload/config.txt | 02:43 |
| IdleOne | I use xchat but still will save it in case I switch | 02:45 |
| Pici | It may be relevant if there are aliases in xchat. I personally haven't used it in years | 02:46 |
| IdleOne | tried using irssi for a little while but I couldn't get used to it | 02:47 |
| IdleOne | maybe I'll install irssi again and give it another shot | 02:49 |
| Pici | I have it running on my VPS | 02:50 |
| IdleOne | Virtual Pici System | 02:52 |
| Pici | if onyl... | 02:52 |
| Pici | only... maybe my virtualized self would spell better. | 02:53 |
| txwikinger | tsimpson: You are living in the wrong timezone ;) | 03:01 |
| tsimpson | txwikinger: I know, but I'm also an insomniac :) | 03:01 |
| txwikinger | Yeah.. I start to see that | 03:02 |
| txwikinger | I was no different while I was in Bham | 03:02 |
| * Seeker` is mostly nocturnal | 03:05 | |
| Seeker` | and I work a 9-5 job too | 03:06 |
| IdleOne | look out for GaryNiger (~gnaa@206.51.110.94) racist spam in #freenode | 03:45 |
| Flannel | might be pertinent to ban gnaa* I can't imagine a legit user accidentally choosing that | 03:47 |
| IdleOne | Flannel: *!*gnaa@* right? | 03:50 |
| Flannel | that'd be it, yeah. | 03:51 |
| IdleOne | ok done | 03:51 |
| * Seeker` reads the discussion about pre-emptive bans that occured earlier | 03:54 | |
| IdleOne | what was the decission? | 03:54 |
| IdleOne | against policy | 03:56 |
| Seeker` | basically, it seems that it is against council policy | 03:56 |
| IdleOne | will remove if you say so | 03:56 |
| IdleOne | can a temporary pre-emptive ban be ok? | 03:56 |
| Seeker` | well, all I'm saying is that its apparently against council policy. Up to you what you do with that information. | 03:57 |
| IdleOne | like for 1 hour when we know there is a spamming session happening? | 03:57 |
| Seeker` | the ban lists are pretty full in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic | 03:57 |
| Seeker` | we have to clean them regularly | 03:57 |
| Seeker` | if we pre-emptively banned against every troll we saw in every channel we were in... | 03:57 |
| IdleOne | removed | 03:58 |
| Flannel | Seeker`: That's preemptive banning of individuals, not blanket trouble things | 03:59 |
| Flannel | er, IdleOne, or whoever I'm responding to :) | 03:59 |
| Flannel | We've got other bans that are similar to that, *!*[expletive]@* and things like that | 03:59 |
| IdleOne | Flannel: well it was one person and he quit right after he posted his message | 04:00 |
| IdleOne | anyway gnaa is on my watch list now | 04:00 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: Yeah, we should check to see if other gnaa people match that as well. | 04:00 |
| Seeker` | yes, but is *gnaa* always trouble? | 04:00 |
| IdleOne | Seeker`: good question | 04:00 |
| Seeker` | if gnaa is "here be trolls" in some foreign language, then fine | 04:01 |
| Seeker` | but I doubt it is | 04:01 |
| Flannel | Uh. | 04:01 |
| Flannel | Are you not familiar with the GNAA? | 04:01 |
| Seeker` | not personally | 04:02 |
| IdleOne | Flannel: I think what Seeker` means is that it is possible that someone uses gnaa and is not a troll | 04:02 |
| Flannel | I said earlier that I can't imagine a legit user accidentally choosing that | 04:02 |
| IdleOne | but someone who is not a native english speaker may | 04:02 |
| Flannel | Seeker`: Don your asbestos suit and look it up on the internet | 04:02 |
| Seeker` | I can't imagine a legit user calling themselves "IdleOne", but, y'know... | 04:03 |
| IdleOne | haha | 04:03 |
| IdleOne | never said I was legit | 04:03 |
| Flannel | (I strongly recommend flashblock and noScript, and maybe even turn off images) | 04:03 |
| funkyHat | Isn't flashblock redundant if you have noscript? | 04:03 |
| Flannel | funkyHat: No | 04:03 |
| Flannel | well, not necessarily | 04:04 |
| Flannel | funkyHat: When dealing with that caliber of site, redundancy probably couldn't hurt | 04:04 |
| funkyHat | Fair point | 04:04 |
| funkyHat | Not sure about "twats"... | 04:04 |
| Flannel | Modern NoScript does block flash by default if you configure it to. I'm not sure what the 'standard' user configures it to though, I lock mine down | 04:05 |
| Seeker` | "by default if you configure it to"? | 04:05 |
| Flannel | er | 04:05 |
| funkyHat | Seeker`: I was wondering that too ;P | 04:05 |
| Flannel | You and your "reading" :P | 04:06 |
| Seeker` | :P | 04:06 |
| Flannel | I think in my head that meant "by default on a page" (because you can click the things and reenable them) | 04:06 |
| Seeker` | I get what you meant | 04:07 |
| Seeker` | just sounded funny | 04:07 |
| Flannel | Indeed it does. | 04:08 |
| * Seeker` giggles | 04:08 | |
| IdleOne | umm ok I banned hiexpo how is he in #ubuntu now? | 04:14 |
| funkyHat | IdleOne: your ban was too specific | 04:14 |
| IdleOne | indeed | 04:15 |
| IdleOne | and again | 04:15 |
| funkyHat | Remove the other ban too | 04:15 |
| IdleOne | ok chaserv.py defaults to the wrong ban mask :( | 04:15 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: Usually it's fine, most people don't change their IP | 04:16 |
| IdleOne | hiexpo seems intent on doing his thing | 04:16 |
| IdleOne | he really isn't a bad guy | 04:17 |
| IdleOne | yeah so +b when setting a mode change is useful | 04:25 |
| IdleOne | :/ | 04:25 |
| rww | Hola. |the-sandman| appears to be flooding out of #ubuntu twice a minute, might be worth banforwarding if it keeps up. | 04:27 |
| rww | .. and it looks like it's fixed itself right as I said that. Typical ;P | 04:28 |
| h00k | is /afrn forwarding to ubuntu-ops | 07:20 |
| h00k | ? | 07:21 |
| bazhang | h00k, for qpt? | 07:48 |
| h00k | bazhang: bah. No, it was somebody else that I removed from #ubuntu | 07:50 |
| ikonia | h00k: /afr | 07:57 |
| h00k | ikonia: ahha. | 08:03 |
| h00k | ikonia: thank you :) | 08:03 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) | 08:55 |
| ubottu | FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) | 08:55 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) | 08:55 |
| mneptok | Pricey: heya! | 08:55 |
| Flannel | That seemed ike a netsplit | 08:56 |
| Flannel | Oh, that was a netsplit | 08:56 |
| Flannel | I meant the join beforehand | 08:56 |
| h00k | that was quite odd | 09:00 |
| Flannel | Everyone rejoined with different nicks, so server must have froze, people timed out on their clients and reconnected, then the server timed out with the other servers (causing the split) | 09:01 |
| elky | multisplit? | 09:01 |
| h00k | that makes logical sense for an explanation | 09:01 |
| Flannel | nah, just one server | 09:01 |
| elky | jussi, hey, if these single ban log pages are loading up like fifty bazillion times quicker than the full BT, is it possible to let us comment from them rather than the main? | 09:03 |
| elky | (basically is this an oversight or a wontfix?) | 09:04 |
| ikonia | what is the lag with BT - is it the machine it runs on, or is it the limitations of things like SQLlite | 09:04 |
| Flannel | oh, h00k, you already called him out on it | 09:05 |
| h00k | Flannel: Yeah, well, it was quite passive, but I think he caught it | 09:05 |
| h00k | s/think/hope/ | 09:05 |
| elky | ikonia, my understanding is the latter. | 09:06 |
| elky | ikonia, just about all the problems with the BT ever have been because of sqlite | 09:06 |
| ikonia | I did a bit of work trying to port it to Mysql, and at one point postgres, I wonder if it's worth picking that up again | 09:08 |
| elky | i would love you forever | 09:08 |
| ikonia | I didn't get far with it as I hit a few big hurdles and no-one at that time had time to work on it with me, but I can look at it again | 09:09 |
| mneptok | ikonia: s/MySQL/MariaDB/ ;P | 09:23 |
| ikonia | I know nothing about MariaDB - so out of my league | 09:23 |
| mneptok | the only thing to know is that it's a drop-in replacement for MySQL | 09:24 |
| ikonia | really ? | 09:27 |
| mneptok | really. | 09:27 |
| ikonia | looks like I'll have to do some research | 09:28 |
| ikonia | I've never used it at a | 09:28 |
| ikonia | all | 09:28 |
| mneptok | and we have XtraDB in place of InnoDB :) | 09:28 |
| mneptok | IIRC, Kexi will do sqlite > mysql data conversions | 09:28 |
| mneptok | if not, i may be able to find someone willing to help. | 09:30 |
| tsimpson | elky: you can now add comments from the log | 09:31 |
| tsimpson | well, you should be able to unless it explodes | 09:32 |
| elky | awesome | 09:32 |
| elky | hmm.. the send button doesn't seem to even be a button | 09:34 |
| Flannel | elky: That's to ensure it doesn't explode | 09:35 |
| elky | at least, it's not doing anything when i hit it | 09:35 |
| elky | Flannel, clearly. | 09:35 |
| tsimpson | elky: try again | 09:58 |
| tsimpson | (missing end '"') | 09:59 |
| elky | yay. (search: l0de) | 10:01 |
| czajkowski | Aloha | 10:52 |
| ikonia | hola | 10:52 |
| czajkowski | just wondering about the logging bot, is the source code available? | 10:52 |
| czajkowski | ikonia: fancy seeing you here :) | 10:52 |
| ikonia | shock horror | 10:52 |
| elky | czajkowski, which logging bot? | 11:06 |
| elky | locobots and ubuntulog are completely different beasts. | 11:07 |
| czajkowski | either | 11:09 |
| czajkowski | both log a channels,I'm just enquring which bot if any has its source code availabe for folks to create their own version of it | 11:09 |
| ikonia | loco bot appears to have some logging in as ubuntu-vn uses it to log | 11:16 |
| gord | czajkowski, we use supybots a whole lot here, you customise them with plugins, so really all you need to do is get a supybot install running and install the logging plugin (might be built in and you just switch it on, not sure) | 11:45 |
| elky | czajkowski, ubuntulog is just an irssi client with irc2html scripts running on the irssi logs | 11:59 |
| elky | czajkowski, it's managed by Canonical sysadmins, so we really can't tell you exactly which scripts | 11:59 |
| bilalakhtar | People, I can't access #ubuntu-offtopic | 13:38 |
| bilalakhtar | it says that I am banned. why? I did nothing | 13:38 |
| bilalakhtar | I think h00k is the operator of irc channel #ubuntu-offtopic | 13:39 |
| bilalakhtar | jussi: Can you please help me? I have been banned from #ubuntu-offtopic for unknown reasons | 13:44 |
| bilalakhtar | No one here to help? please! I request you! I apologize in case I violated the code of conduct | 13:53 |
| bilalakhtar | popey: please help me with this! I have been banned from #ubuntu-offtopic for unknown reasons. I request you to unban me | 13:56 |
| popey | @login | 13:58 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 13:58 |
| popey | @btlogin | 13:58 |
| popey | hmm, ubottu.com seems broken for me, so i can't look into it, sorry bilalakhtar | 14:00 |
| bilalakhtar | popey: thanx for the effort. Atleast someone responded to this. But, why has ubottu banned me? | 14:01 |
| popey | thats the question I can't answer | 14:01 |
| popey | bilalakhtar: it looks like you were kick/banned by topyli for having an offensive quit message | 14:02 |
| bilalakhtar | popey: ok but what did I write? I don't remember I will check the history | 14:03 |
| popey | I don't know, I can't see that | 14:03 |
| popey | -offtopic isn't logged and I'm not in that channel so don't log it myself | 14:03 |
| popey | aha, found it | 14:04 |
| popey | *** bilalakhtar (bilalakhtar!~bilalakht@188.248.14.134) has left #ubuntu-offtopic ("windows f***ing sucks") | 14:04 |
| bilalakhtar | popey: sorry for that I promise I won't repeat it | 14:05 |
| popey | I'm afraid there's nothing I can do about it, I don't have ops in that channel. You'll either have to wait or come back when an op is about. | 14:05 |
| bilalakhtar | ok i should leave now | 14:06 |
| jussi | heh | 14:16 |
| jussi | dunny how people try ban evade... | 14:16 |
| jussi | funny... | 14:16 |
| elky | Funny how people do it right in front of us and think they'll get away with it. | 14:25 |
| ikonia | D/whois bilal_akhtar | 14:53 |
| ikonia | is he known ? | 14:53 |
| jussi | ikonia: a ban for a bad quit message in #u-ot, nothing serious | 14:55 |
| ikonia | ah | 14:56 |
| ikonia | the way he was trying to evade I wondered if he was more than that (known) | 14:56 |
| jussi | nah, I think its just ignorance. | 14:57 |
| jussi | If he had more experience he would have actually looked at the ban. | 14:57 |
| elky | If he had more experience, he wouldn't be joining this channel for each evade attempt. | 14:59 |
| knome | lol | 14:59 |
| jussi | well given its a forward... | 15:00 |
| topyli | looks like he changed the quit message, the everything is fine | 15:04 |
| jussi | h00k: ^^ | 15:04 |
| h00k | topyli: sounds good. It gave me an excuse to look at the bantracker for the first time | 15:05 |
| topyli | :) | 15:05 |
| topyli | removed | 15:05 |
| topyli | i must be tired. "the something?" | 15:06 |
| topyli | uh, "the everything" | 15:06 |
| bilalakhtar | h00k: Can you please unban me from #ubuntu-offtopic? | 15:09 |
| bilalakhtar | h00k: I promise I won't break the CoC again | 15:09 |
| h00k | bilalakhtar: it has already been removed, it looks like | 15:09 |
| bilalakhtar | h00k: sorry I didn't note that | 15:10 |
| h00k | bilalakhtar: so, you should be all set | 15:10 |
| bilalakhtar | h00k: thanx | 15:10 |
| h00k | bilalakhtar: is there anything else I can help you with? | 15:10 |
| bilalakhtar | h00k: nope thanx I will leave this channel now | 15:11 |
| elky | someone should probably still edumacate him on the basics of irc survival | 15:20 |
| elky | To anyone reading the above, it would seem that all you have to do to get your ban lifted is try to evade. Bravo. | 15:22 |
| h00k | himb eing me? | 15:27 |
| h00k | er, *him being, rather | 15:28 |
| Tm_T | h00k: being the one who was banned, rather | 15:29 |
| h00k | Tm_T: okay. I didn't know if it was something I could have done better | 15:30 |
| Tm_T | h00k: heh, just remember that evading or even trying to evade ban is a bad, baad thing | 15:30 |
| elky | h00k, if you spoke with him in PM, that's fine, but say that you have here so that we can defend the unlifting as having been Because He Learned | 15:31 |
| h00k | elky: alright, that's sort of what I figured, and I wasn't sure if that was /msg'd to him previously (about the evading) | 15:32 |
| elky | h00k, i can't even tell if he actually knows that bad quit messages are why he was banned in the first place, either. | 15:33 |
| jussi | looks like he understodd that to me, from his conversation with popey. | 15:34 |
| ubottu | Nick1 called the ops in #ubuntu () | 19:37 |
| jussi | tonyyarusso: best to tell them first ;) | 19:38 |
| tonyyarusso | You're so sweet ;) | 19:39 |
| persia | hey | 20:25 |
| persia | -ECHAN | 20:25 |
| jpds | AcePreshaw looks dodgy. | 20:57 |
| jpds | popey: ^--. | 20:58 |
| jpds | Doesn't seem to be helpful in #ubuntu-website. | 20:58 |
| ikonia | what the devil is #ubuntu-website ? | 21:02 |
| ikonia | jpds: I muted him early in #ubuntu for being a jerk and had a chat to him | 21:02 |
| jpds | ikonia: A channel... about the Ubuntu website? | 21:02 |
| ikonia | (chat in pm) he agreed to control his attitude towards people | 21:03 |
| ikonia | never seen it before, having a poke around | 21:03 |
| jpds | It's old. | 21:03 |
| ikonia | I'm just not in the loop on it I guess | 21:04 |
| CaptainTrek | is there a channel specific for medibuntu? | 21:04 |
| ikonia | they do have their own channel yes | 21:04 |
| CaptainTrek | or is #ubuntu the correct channel to ask those questions? | 21:04 |
| ikonia | be aware it's not part of the ubuntu project | 21:04 |
| CaptainTrek | okay, because the repos are dead for it | 21:04 |
| jpds | CaptainTrek: #medibuntu ? | 21:04 |
| CaptainTrek | i was wondering if they would know why | 21:04 |
| CaptainTrek | i'll check there thanks | 21:04 |
| ikonia | you can chat about mediabuntu usage with ubuntu, however if there a problem with the packages you'll need to contact the medibuntu guys | 21:04 |
| CaptainTrek | yeah, i was wonderin if others had issues connecting to the medibuntu repos, it seems they are indeed dead for a while :P | 21:06 |
| CaptainTrek | thanks | 21:06 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 21:08 |
| jpds | ikonia: He's come back as heeed. | 21:08 |
| ikonia | ahhh I thought you where still active in here czajkowski | 21:08 |
| czajkowski | we've kicked AcePreshaw from ubuntu-ie today for trolling and he seems to be doing the rounds in channels | 21:08 |
| czajkowski | ikonia: no I left as it says no idling | 21:08 |
| jpds | nick change with same IP FAIL. | 21:09 |
| ikonia | czajkowski: you're voiced here - you can idle | 21:09 |
| ikonia | jpds: you're eyeballs are exceptional | 21:09 |
| jpds | ikonia: your*. | 21:09 |
| czajkowski | ikonia: grand | 21:09 |
| ikonia | oops | 21:09 |
| ikonia | yes | 21:09 |
| jpds | czajkowski: Am watching him. | 21:09 |
| czajkowski | jpds: cheers | 21:10 |
| funkyHat | ■▎⢁) | 22:36 |
| nickspoon | That's an awfully funky hat, funkyHat. | 22:38 |
| funkyHat | Seveas made it for me | 22:38 |
| nickspoon | He's a nice man. :) | 22:38 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 22:41 |
| ubottu | FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 22:41 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 22:41 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, dugger5688 said: ubottu is fiesty lately, warning about g!, even when we're just posting search results where the 1st result is the answer. | 23:44 |
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