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Allydedei try to copy the file but it doesnt make it00:00
KDeskAllydede: did you do it with sudo?00:00
AllydedeKDesk: no but how can i copy it from the usb to the /etc/X1100:02
AllydedeKDesk: now i make sudo su00:02
KDeskAllydede: better don't make sudo su.00:04
AllydedeKDesk: ok00:04
KDeskAllydede: because you can forget that you are logged with su and the remove important files.00:04
KDeskmake something like: sudo cp /media/USB/file.bin /etc/X11/00:05
slckb0yhi everyone :) is someone running KDE in a virtualbox under win7 ? :) i can't seem to use OpenGL for desktop effect even if i installed guest additions :/00:05
KDeskAllydede: reemplacing USB with the apropiate name, and file.bin also00:05
AllydedeKDesk: so i have it00:05
AllydedeKDesk: i must make it with sudo because there was permission problems00:06
KDeskAllydede: that is normal, in /etc only root can write, there are some operation system files, not user files00:06
AllydedeKDesk: ah ok00:07
KDeskAllydede: now you need the file xorg.conf, I thing one like the one from the forum.00:07
AllydedeKDesk: i have it00:08
Allydedei just have the old00:08
AllydedeKDesk: i rename it to xorg.conf now00:08
AllydedeKDesk: now restart and hope its work :)00:08
KDeskAllydede: ok. good luck00:08
AllydedeKDesk: thx see u00:09
AllydedeKDesk: hey noch da!00:40
KDeskAllydede: ja :)00:40
AllydedeKDesk: oops i mean are u there:D00:40
KDeskAllydede: did it work?00:40
AllydedeKDesk: no :( the graphik place dont come00:41
AllydedeKDesk: i had only the black screen where i can work with the commands00:41
KDeskAllydede: did you made the spet 3? Install the drivers?00:41
AllydedeKDesk: no :) because i dont no which drivers00:42
KDeskAllydede: ah, let's see..00:42
AllydedeKDesk: yes..!00:43
KDeskAllydede run: jockey-kde00:44
AllydedeKDesk: searchig for driver...00:44
Allydedenow he find that the driver is not aktiv00:45
Allydedeand if i will klick to the Aktivieren button he make nothing00:45
Allydedei havent premission00:46
Allydedehow can i install it with premission00:46
KDeskAllydede: hmm, lets me see00:48
icwienerIs there anyone here who has Kolf installed and can check if the players can be removed with the button right next to them when starting a new game?00:48
KDeskAllydede: I thought it should work. Then try:  kdesudo jockey-kde00:49
AllydedeKDesk: yes :)00:49
Allydedeits install00:49
KDesk:)00:49
Allydedewhat is this?00:50
AllydedeKDesk: ok its installed i just make a restart00:51
AllydedeKDesk: 1 min00:51
icwienerWould anyone help me by installing Kolf and check if the players can be removed with the button right next to them when starting a new game?00:59
icwienerI am triaging bugs and it seems this issue was only present in Kubuntu.00:59
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AllydedeKDesk: are u there!01:32
AllydedeKDesk: bin ma pennen versuche es morgen weiter :) nacht und danke01:47
QazManHi people, I'm a new linux user and I'm happy to join you01:55
BluesKajhi QazMan01:56
QazManthere is someone hehe01:57
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BluesKajQazMan..got a question , or are you just happy to be here :) ?02:06
demismhow do you remove a package you installed, its dependencies and any directories it created? Also, know of any hacks I can run when installing a package to keep all that info handy or is there a log kept?02:49
gabrbedd_demism: The logs are at /var/log/dpkg.log*02:51
gabrbedd_demism: You can also use deborphan.02:51
gabrbedd_demism: Apt also tries to detect unused libs on your system and notifies you when you do `apt-get upgrade`02:52
kentI need help. How do i get a different mouse theme on kubuntu 9.10?03:05
Rameshusing WICD, I cannot create ad-hoc network. Next button is not working03:07
kentI need help. How do i get a different mouse theme on kubuntu 9.10?03:07
kenthow do i get flash for konqueror web browser03:08
TommyThaGunhad anyone tried kubuntu 10.4?03:25
txwikingerTommyThaGun: Yes running it here03:26
TommyThaGunany thoughts? is it lightyears ahead of 9.10?03:26
txwikingerI think it is very very stable03:27
txwikingernot so many bloody edge features... more stability03:27
TommyThaGundid you do a fresh install? upgrade from an old kubuntu? or did you install kubuntu on top of ubuntu?03:27
txwikingerI upgraded03:27
TommyThaGunthat's good. Stability is one of the issues I've had with KDe in the past03:27
TommyThaGunoh ok03:28
txwikingerfrom karmic (9.10)03:28
TommyThaGunI seem to always have issues if I try installing Kubuntu on top of Ubuntu03:28
txwikingerHowever, the machines started both out with hardy or jaunty03:28
TommyThaGunnice03:28
TommyThaGunso you've been with it for a while03:29
txwikingerwell.. I have both desktops installed and upgrade from previous release03:29
txwikingerhowever, I usually only use KDE03:29
txwikingerI have Gnome only for testing and bug-triage purposes installed03:29
TommyThaGuninteresting03:29
txwikingerI upgraded beta-1 I believe03:30
TommyThaGunmaybe I'll just give it a try03:30
txwikingerwell.. just be careful if you have an ndivia graphics adapter03:31
txwikingerYou need to gave the right drivers03:31
TommyThaGunI really really want to like KDE. It seems like every time I see a picture of it my jaw drops and I drool... it looks so good. But for some reason whenever I try using it I quickly revert back to Gnome03:31
TommyThaGunoh ok, I don't03:32
txwikingerWell... often it is a matter of being used to something03:32
TommyThaGuntrue03:32
txwikingerI find that it always takes me twice as long dealing with the Gnome desktop.. mostly because I am not used to it03:33
TommyThaGuninteresting03:33
TommyThaGunI find the same to be true with KDE03:33
TommyThaGunit's like, they took away my keyboard shortcuts03:33
txwikingerYes.. I can imagine that03:33
txwikingerWell. you can define your shortcuts03:33
TommyThaGunamong other things03:33
TommyThaGunshould I install kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-kde4-desktop?03:34
txwikingersystemsettings->keyboard&mouse->global keyboard shortcuts03:34
txwikingerthere is no kde3 anymore03:34
TommyThaGunoh ok. that will be good to know. I'll just have to get in and poke around a lot03:34
txwikingerI think kubuntu-kde4-desktop is a meta package for the upgrade from hardy.. I can find out if you like me to03:35
TommyThaGunno worries03:36
txwikingerYes.. it is a remininence... there is nothing behind it03:36
TommyThaGunoh ok03:37
txwikingerkubuntu-desktop is the right one03:37
TommyThaGunsweet03:38
TommyThaGunI'm giving it a go. just installing03:38
TommyThaGunweird. It stopped downloading, after letting it wait a bit I quit it, now it's saying "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"03:44
TommyThaGunhmm03:45
txwikingerare you using a package manager?03:45
TommyThaGunI was using apt-get03:46
TommyThaGunand there is no other package manager open03:46
txwikingermaybe something crashed the last time and did not remove the lock03:47
TommyThaGunis there a way to manually remove it, or do I need to reboot?03:47
txwikingeryes remove the lock file in that directory03:47
txwikingeryou need to use sudo obviously03:47
TommyThaGunoh03:48
TommyThaGunso it's literally just a file called lock in that directory...03:48
TommyThaGuninteresting03:48
txwikingeryes03:48
TommyThaGunwell, I feel like that's a good thing to know03:51
txwikingerwell. just don't remove it when an application is still running that created it03:52
txwikingerthat can mess some things up03:52
TommyThaGungot it03:52
TommyThaGunthat would be bad03:52
BiggBangHi03:54
txwikingerBiggBang: just ask your question03:55
BiggBangYes03:55
BiggBangIèm just reading.  Thanks03:55
BiggBangI am03:55
txwikingerok03:56
BiggBangI was configuring Quassel03:56
BiggBangWhen the next version will be available ?03:57
txwikingerend of the month03:58
BiggBangBeta ?03:58
txwikinger28th or something like this03:58
txwikingerthe full release03:58
BiggBangOk :) ty03:58
txwikingerbeta is already out03:58
BiggBangI took a break  lol03:58
BiggBangWill it be more powerful ?03:59
BiggBangMore features ?04:00
BiggBangLess bugs ?04:00
txwikingera lot more syabl04:00
txwikingera lot more stable04:00
BiggBangI see04:00
txwikingerit is an LTS04:00
BiggBangWhat is means ?04:01
BiggBangLTS ?04:01
txwikingerLong Term Support04:01
BiggBang:)04:01
txwikinger3 years of security fixes04:01
txwikingerinstead of 18 month04:01
BiggBangGreat04:01
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BiggFREEI was not using the good nick.04:08
BiggFREEI am on Freenode.04:08
BiggFREEWill it have a bigger size that 9.10 ?604:09
BiggFREEthan04:09
txwikingersize?04:09
BiggFREEDownload ?04:10
txwikingerthe iso is the same04:10
BiggFREEI am limited :( Ok04:10
txwikingerotherwise, it depends on the packages you have installed04:10
BiggFREEJust securities and recommended updates04:11
BiggFREEBasic only04:11
BiggFREEty for all your info :)04:12
BiggFREEBye for now04:13
BiggFREEtc04:13
RubenSosaHola..??05:13
RubenSosaCómo funciona esto..??05:14
RubenSosaHello..??05:14
xivenHey all06:13
xivenI recently started using Sribus, for desktop publishing, and in their IRC channel they informed me that Scribus has a lot of problems on K/Ubuntu because of Qt patches.06:14
xivenAre these bugs causing compatibility issues, or do KDE applications have to be written specifically for KDE to work right?06:15
xivenHow come a tutorial on ubuntuforums.com doesn't match up with qt4-config?06:37
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xivenwth happened to the LIbrary Path tab in QtConfig??06:55
noaXessgood moring07:19
noaXesshow to install pulseaudio? i have installed pavucontrol, but can't run it: Connection failed07:20
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noaXess!pulseaudio07:31
ubottuPulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions07:31
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noaXessthis wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio is really old.. it's fot Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10.. what about karmic 9.10? same process.. or another?07:33
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Allydedegood morning08:50
ahoxHi, is there a known problem with the skype kopete plugin? Skype crashes as soon as I try to something with it09:05
the3rdBITMoin Leute, ich versuche KDE auf einen 2. Bildschirm auszuweiten. xorg scheint richtig konfiguriert zu sein, es erscheint auf dem 2. Bildschirm der x-förmige Cursor von xorg, aber KDE hat's nicht erkannt...09:34
moetunesthe3rdBIT: you'll need to /j #ubuntu-de or speak english mate09:35
the3rdBIToops thnx09:35
moetunesnp09:35
the3rdBIThi people, i try to expand my kde desktop on a second screen, but there just appears the x-cursor of xorg09:36
Koliathe3rdBIT: do you have an nvidia car?09:36
Kolia*card09:36
the3rdBITyes, GeForce 8500 GT09:36
the3rdBITit seems to work, but kde don't recognize the second screen09:37
moetunesthe3rdBIT: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 - tells how to use two screens09:37
slckb0yhi everyone :) is someone running KDE in a virtualbox under win7 ? :) i can't seem to use OpenGL for desktop effect even if i installed guest additions :/09:38
moetunesthe3rdBIT: using restricted drivers for the card?09:38
the3rdBITmoetunes: the proprietary one09:38
moetunesk - try the link and see if it improves the3rdBIT09:39
the3rdBITmoetunes: ok thnx :)09:39
moetunes:) np09:39
the3rdBITmoetunes: but this just explains how to configure xorg, but xorg seems to work already09:41
moetunesthe3rdBIT: k - that's about the limit of my knowledgs on that - matbe someone else will speak up...09:43
moetuness/matbe/maybe09:43
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the3rdBITmoetunes: you mean smatt454?09:46
moetunesthe3rdBIT: I don't know of smatt454...09:46
the3rdBITmoetunes: maybe i'll find someone on the #xorg channel :)09:50
moetunesthe3rdBIT: luck :)09:50
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AllydedeHello guys anyone here he can help me to my problem with nvidia GT 310M11:28
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howlymowlyhi guys.. short question: did anyone of you try out the google chrome browser on kubuntu yet? just wanted to ask if it was as buggy as on my system, everywhere...13:30
harjotI use chrome13:31
howlymowlyharjot: almost nothing works on my system.. any idea?  not even the "themes" site from google...13:32
howlymowlyalso I cna not scroll for some reason...13:32
harjotIt all works on my system except some  flash and java stuff13:32
harjothmm13:32
harjotWhich chrome are you using ?13:33
howlymowlythe newest13:33
howlymowly64bit deb package from googles website13:33
pucko-no problem here either. except for the pdf plugin13:33
harjotim using 32 bit13:34
harjotIt could be your 64 bit system13:34
harjotIm just guessing, i have not much idea13:34
howlymowlyyeah  I am on a 64 bit system13:35
howlymowlymaybe that's the reason..13:35
howlymowlyhttps://tools.google.com/chrome/intl/en/themes/index.html for example on this page chromium just keeps loading...13:35
harjotmines loads13:36
howlymowlyi mean this is googles own webpage..  I woud rather think that under normal circumstances that page should work in chromium ^^13:36
harjotHave you tried reinstalling it from synaptic? because they add the repository there13:36
harjotafter you install the package13:36
harjotthe google repostiory for synaptic is http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/13:37
howlymowlyahh cool didn't know that they have repository...13:38
harjotSame, i just read about it13:39
harjottry the unstable version and the real one and see which one wworks13:39
howlymowlybecause I mean I already realised ...  chromium is REALLY fast compared with firefox and konqueror13:40
harjotactually, chrome is the same speed as firefox, but looks faster cause its cleaner, but the tab switching is faster and its less prone to crashes13:41
pucko-depends what speed you are measuring. the chrome ui is alot faster on my crappy computer13:42
howlymowlyhmm...  seems like there is only an unstable version...13:42
howlymowlyin the repositories13:42
harjottry that13:42
howlymowlyyeah that's just the one I am already using13:43
harjotive got the beta + the unstable listed13:43
harjotdid you download the beta?13:43
howlymowlyyeah13:43
howlymowlyahh I should rather use "chromium" than google-* as a search string :)13:44
howlymowlythere it is ...13:44
harjotis it?13:45
harjotI thought searching chrome works?13:45
harjotoh yeah have you updated your repository list?13:45
harjothowlymowly: actually i just read that the unstable one is the only 64 bit one13:48
howlymowlyhmm..  so i guess that's bad news then..13:48
harjotyup13:49
harjothave you tried running it from terminal aND SEEing what happens?13:49
harjotpastebin the log13:50
harjotor output13:50
howlymowlylol? suddenly it works....13:51
harjothow?13:51
howlymowlyi didn#t change anything..13:51
howlymowlyjust ran it from cli13:51
harjotwhat from wherE?13:51
howlymowlytemrinal13:51
howlymowly*terminal13:51
harjotand its working?13:51
SatManUKhi what version of the kernel was being used for 9.10 as of its release?13:51
howlymowlycli= command line interface13:52
harjothowlymowly: try launching it from the button13:52
harjothowlymowly: see what happens13:52
howlymowlyharjot: ...13:52
SatManUKI am trying to understand why Kubuntu is the only distro that supports a HP Pavlilion dv7-2230sa13:52
SatManUKwithout having to dissable acpi13:52
harjothowlymowly: nothing happens?13:52
howlymowlyhmm. harjot...   works from the menu now, too13:53
howlymowlyI have no idea, what's going on...13:53
harjotok so you are lucky, lol13:53
howlymowlyi guess so, harjot ^^13:53
howlymowlyhmmm....  what a pity.. there is no chromium "oxygen" theme :)13:54
harjothmm i dont think so13:55
howlymowlyharjot: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kromium+Project?content=117783 just found this :)13:56
howlymowlyand I can confirm: it works13:56
harjotnice13:57
harjotoxygen13:57
harjotIts more of a global change13:58
howlymowlyok... one last thing...  harjot how do I install adblock on chromium?14:04
shadeslayerhowlymowly: theres a plugin for that14:13
shadeslayerhowlymowly: you can install the chrome plugins in chromium too ;)14:13
howlymowlyshadeslayer: well... sorry for my stupidity but whats the differenc ebetween chrome and chromium?14:14
howlymowly*between14:14
shadeslayerhowlymowly: nothing!14:14
shadeslayerhowlymowly: its just that google takes chromium,changes the name,adds google branding and a auto updater for Windows system and offers it for download14:15
howlymowlyahh...  didn't know that :)14:16
shadeslayerhowlymowly: yeah i found this info while trawling the webz :D14:16
howlymowly--> is there a place where all chromium extensions are gathered? like with mozilla firefox?14:16
howlymowlyi found this:  http://www.chromeextensions.org/appearance-functioning/adblock/  but seems like my browser is the wrong version? I can not install it for some reason..14:16
shadeslayerhowlymowly: https://chrome.google.com/extensions14:18
howlymowlykk thx shadeslayer14:20
shadeslayerhowlymowly: no problem14:21
harjothowlymowly: sorry i was away, have you managed to install adblock?14:34
howlymowlyyepp.. worked :)14:34
harjotok good14:37
benishorhow can I take the amount of memory used by my program in c++ under linux?14:37
harjotI have no idea, im not a programming guru14:38
txwikingerbenishor: you can use valgrind for that14:39
benishortxwikinger: I need realtime reports14:39
txwikingerI think valgrind can do that14:39
txwikingerif not I need to look through a presentation I was lately, there was a tool that could do that14:40
benishortxwikinger: I just want to find out in c++. what fields would make sense from getrusage() ?14:40
txwikingerwhy don't you write some makeshift profiler into your code then?14:41
txwikingersometimes you own debugging statements work a lot better than big packages14:42
benishorI think I will go down that route, thank you14:44
rocco_tanicahey guys, but if someone wants to use the webcam for a chat wich client has to use?15:25
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TommyThaGundo y'all like Quassel or Konversation more?16:01
TommyThaGunor neither?16:03
TommyThaGunquassel doesn't seem responsive16:04
TommyThaGunhmm16:04
geniiTommyThaGun: I prefer to use Quassel with a remote core which is always logged in.16:06
* txwikinger uses quassel16:06
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jarleWhat is the story with Kubuntu and pulseaudio? Should I use it or am I better off removing pulseaudio from my system?16:59
olskolirchow do I increase my bash history please to unlimited or never expire?17:04
tsimpsonolskolirc: you can't have an "unlimited" history, but in .bashrc add the lines "declare -x HISTFILESIZE=1000000000" and "declare -x HISTSIZE=1000000" (without quotes), that'll be almost unlimited17:17
tsimpsonyou'll need to run "source ~/.bashrc" for it to take effect17:18
Grafterjust recieved Kubuntu and am trying it from the CD, while trying to play music stored on my HDD aramok does nothing, and dragon video will play video files but with no sound or immage, is this because it is playing from CD or am i missing something?17:38
ansgarSearching for someone having experiance with lomoco17:38
hamzaheloo17:52
hamzai have a problem with keybord17:53
hamzait s qwerty i like to be azerty17:54
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coteyrok idiot moron question of the day, at least for me. I have a share defined on a server, directory mask of 0777, and folders are still being created with permissions of drwxr-sr-x18:08
coteyroh samba share btw18:08
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coteyrok idiot moron question of the day, at least for me. I have a samba share defined on a server, directory mask of 0777, and folders are still being created with permissions of drwxr-sr-x18:15
vivekHii all I have just installed Ubuntu one on my system through the software centre.. but but cant we use ubuntu one on KDE18:28
vivekHii all I have just installed Ubuntu one on my system through the software centre.. but but cant we use ubuntu one on KDE18:32
txwikinger!ask | vivek18:35
ubottuvivek: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:35
txwikinger!patience | vivek18:35
ubottuvivek: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.18:35
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vivekHii all I have just installed Ubuntu one on my system through the software centre.. but but cant we use ubuntu one on KDE18:35
txwikingervivek: I think Ubuntu One works also in KDE18:36
vivektxwikinger: In GNOME i could see that in applications.. but here it is not there!.. do you know how to use  it here18:37
txwikingerDid you look in the System Tray?18:37
vivekhmm it is not there18:37
txwikingerThen run in from the K-Menu18:38
vivekEven use alt+f2 to run aubuntu one .. but no18:38
sujithhi18:38
txwikinger!ask sujith18:38
sujithI need a help18:38
txwikinger!ask | sujith18:38
ubottusujith: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:38
vivektxwikinger:Please stop trying to moderate18:39
vivekyes sujith!18:39
txwikingervivek: sorry, that is my job here18:40
sujithI installed kubuntu 10.04 on my laptop (which has already ubuntu and windows vista dual boot) and now iam not able to access my existing partions and I can see whole harddisk as a single volume18:40
sujithhow to get my files18:41
sujithany idea18:41
txwikingersujith: If you have overwritten your partition during the installation that is probably not possible anymore18:42
vivektxwikinger:Moderator.. ok...18:42
sujithnot overwritten the full parttion18:42
llutzsujith: get it from last backup18:42
sujithI dont have a backup.18:42
llutzsujith: using beta-software without a backup? nice... how much partitions does "sudo fdisk -l" show?18:43
txwikingersujith: How did you install kubuntu? via iso or by installing the kubuntu-desktop package?18:44
sujith   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System18:44
sujith/dev/sda1   *           1       18709   150277120   83  Linux18:44
sujith/dev/sda2           18709       19458     6010881    5  Extended18:44
sujith/dev/sda5           18709       19458     6010880   82  Linux swap / Solaris18:44
FloodBotK2sujith: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:44
sujithvia iso...usb boot18:44
coteyrsujith; time to take the lesson of backups to hear18:45
llutzsujith: the installer repartitioned your drive, congrats18:45
coteyrsujith; nothing but linux there now18:45
sujithso is there any way now18:45
coteyrsujith; not really18:45
robinking623sujith: try some recovery tools18:46
txwikingersujith: You used the wrong option in the installation process. You asked the installer to use the entire disk18:46
coteyrsujith; maybe a byte by byte scan of the hdd from return something. But thats not worth it18:46
txwikingerthat has overwritten your existing partitions18:46
sujithok18:46
coteyrsujith; best course of action, learn from the mistake and BACKUP18:46
txwikinger+118:46
robinking623sujith: but maybe you can get something from the recovery18:46
sujithis there recovery tool in ubuntu18:47
sujithnow i have 10.04 kubuntu OS18:47
robinking623sujith: under linux18:47
llutzsujith: try testdisk18:47
coteyrsujith; any recovery tool that might work would need to be run from outside the os and would almost certianlly ruin your new install.18:47
coteyrsujith; but again, unless you had lotto numbers there, or your really into causing your self hours of headache, just forget about what you had there and learn to back up. I have tried recovery and it's just not worth it18:48
robinking623sujith: http://easyrecovery.qarchive.org/18:48
llutzsujith: stop using that hdd if oyu want to recover anything. every writeaccess will lower the chances to get files back18:49
sujithok18:49
sujithI dont bother about this new partion but I need my lost data's lots of old photos18:50
sujithso I need that datas18:50
coteyrsujith; he is write, hard power the machine now, and use a recovery tool you can only recover files that have not be overwritten and only unlinked (normally) so stop writing to that disk.18:50
llutzsujith: use a live-cd, make an image of your hdd and try to recover from that image-file then18:50
sujithbut for that I need a external HDD right18:51
coteyrfor any recovery you are going to need external media18:52
llutzsujith: likely, you cannot store data on the drive you want to recover from18:52
sujithok18:53
sujithis there any recovery tool available with the Kubuntu installation cd18:53
coteyrnot that can do that18:53
coteyryou can try fdisking back to the orignal partition layout and praying but that probabbly wont work18:54
coteyrhonestly, I know you want you data back, but all your going to do is pull out your hair, there is not a really go way to do what your asking quickly.18:55
mihohelp18:55
mihohe18:55
sujithis it due MBR over writing ?18:55
coteyrit will take time, effort, and a lot of research to pull it off, and even then, it most likly won't get everything18:56
miho а как тут18:56
txwikinger!ask | miho18:56
ubottumiho: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:56
coteyrsujith; no, you changed the partition table, you basicaly moved all the rooms in your house around and now you want to find your bed, but it's not in the bedroom anymore it's in the kictchen under the stove, and it was lit on fire by the heat18:57
sujithok thanks18:58
coteyryou might be able to get some semeblence of the matriss back, but your better off jsut buying a new bed18:58
coteyrand learning that next time you remodle(partition/update/whatever) move your furtunature out first (backup)18:59
sujithhow to run testdisk18:59
sujithI installed it19:00
coteyrok idiot moron question of the day, at least for me. I have a sambe share defined on a server, directory mask of 0777, and folders are still being created with permissions of drwxr-sr-x19:00
llutzsujith: stop using that harddisk, everytime the system writes to your disk, the chances to get stuff back shrink19:00
llutzsujith: use something like helix for recovery, not your installed system http://www.e-fense.com/products.php19:01
Ahox_Hi, I just installed the fglrx and it's awfully slow. I understood this problem was supposed to be fixed month ago - what am I missing?19:02
sujithI installed a new ubuntu system19:03
sujithwhat is root password for this19:04
Ahox_sujith,  there is no root19:04
llutz!root > sujith19:04
ubottusujith, please see my private message19:04
Ahox_sujith,  however you can set one by typing sudo passwd root19:04
txwikingerAhox_: Which is not recommended since it introduces an insecurity especially when the system is on the Internet19:05
Ahox_txwikinger,  I agree, however there are some reasons why you really want a root. In which case the daemons must be secure, i.e. nopasswd for root in ssh, etc19:07
llutzAhox_: what do you think the reasons are?19:08
Ahox_llutz,  e.g. the management system expects a root login, thats the case for us19:09
txwikingerAhox_: Well.. that is hopefully only done by very experienced admins.. I wouldn't recommend it to people who don't have nough experience19:11
Ahox_txwikinger,  I agree that the general user does not need a root password19:11
Ahox_having said that, anyone has experience with the fglrx driver? It's awfully slow19:12
Ahox_and the radeon driver does not show the mouse cursor19:12
txwikingerAhox_: I have not dared installing lucid on the the nvidia box yet19:14
Ahox_its still the 9.10 (with the ati driver)19:14
txwikingerwell.. try the proprietary nvidia driver19:15
txwikingerIt worked ok on my box, but I did not do any speed tests19:15
txwikingerAh.. sorry nvidia is gforce.. not radeon, right?19:16
Ahox_txwikinger,  indeed19:16
* txwikinger has too many different hardware configurations :)19:16
coteyrAhox_; i am running at on two laptops,19:16
Ahox_coteyr,  the fglrx ones? Do you also use the 10.3?19:17
coteyr9.10 on one of them was just a horrid mess untill the update to lucid, both now worked out of the box, there were kernel conflicts.19:17
coteyrboth would work if I updated the kernel to >= 2.6.3219:18
coteyrbut I couldn't do that on the one laptop. It was an HD card though and they were not supported by the radion driver19:18
Ahox_coteyr,  so you would recommend an upgrade to lucid?19:19
coteyrAhox_; up I upgraded and am having a fine time, but it's still beta so .... I guess the offical answer is complie (or use) a newer kernel in 9.10, but I havn't had any problems in lucid.19:20
Ahox_well, this is just my private machine, so I am fine with a beta. Let's try it19:20
coteyrAhox_, also give mesa and flgrx libs a poking to make sure your not running mesa libs after some odd update19:21
rafaelobGuys, can you help me?19:25
ikoniawith what ?19:25
rafaelobi need 30 users connect in my app19:25
rafaelobhttp://aovivo.pop-ba.rnp.br/stream/19:25
rafaelobRed519:25
rafaelobopen source rtmp server19:26
ikoniathis is not the place to ask19:26
ikoniathis is a support channel19:26
rafaelobok, thks19:27
rafaelob=/19:27
ikoniano problem19:27
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djpytyeste vroun roman pe aici20:10
djpyty?20:10
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sithlord48does anyone here know how to set the FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL enviromental var ?20:29
Torchsithlord48:  i dunno that one but can't you just set it like any other env var?20:30
sithlord48Torch , via export varname=value ?20:31
Torchsithlord48: yes20:31
sithlord48Torch, yea i tried that ... didn't seam to work, maybe i have to do so as root20:32
Torchsithlord48: you need to have some understanding of how env vars work20:32
sithlord48torch, please do tell20:32
Torchsithlord48: if you export a var in one shell, it's only exported in that specific session.20:32
Torchsithlord48: you can NOT open a shell, export a var, close the shell and think this was it. because it will have no effect at all.20:33
sithlord48torch, ok so i set that then re run the uninstall script then it tells me to set it and run the script20:33
sithlord48torch, yea all in same shell20:33
txwikingerTorch: you can add it to /etc/environment20:34
sithlord48i just want to uninstall the fglrx driver so i can finish my upgrade :)20:34
Torchsithlord48: i don't know anything about ati and their scripts, but in general, exporting the env var in a shell and afterwards running the script that needs it set should just work20:37
Torchsithlord48: even with sudo20:37
sithlord48torch, i was hoping you were not gonna say that ,since i already knew that :P20:37
Torchsithlord48: either you're making a really stupid mistake (we all do from time to time, right? ;-)) or the script is broken.20:38
Torchsithlord48: google might help20:38
sithlord48Torch, i tried google i can see the output i get from the script but nothing really more then export var.. then run sh ./script20:39
sithlord48ok lets assume the script is broken, how would i manually remove the install so i can finish my upgrade ?20:40
Torchsithlord48: you want to remove ati's binary blob driver from your system?20:40
sithlord48oh might want to note i tried dpkg--configre -a  (and w/ --force-all no luck..) seams i have to uninstall it first20:40
sithlord48torch, apparently i have to so i can install the newer version of fglrx included w/ lucid.20:41
Torchsithlord48: and you did install the blob manually?20:42
sithlord48torch, yes via there .run package20:42
Torchsithlord48: there might be a corrupt mix of ati's run-script-installed driver and debs from ubuntu now on your system, but this is only guessing. i still think google is your best bet.20:44
sithlord48torch, well it was late last night and i had to fight just to get the gui back after upload, so i will give it another go when i get back to the machine.20:45
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Torchsithlord48: i wouldn't ever recommend to install ati or nvidia drivers from the vendor's web page on ubuntu.20:46
sithlord48torch, :P most people wound't but the ati drivers on the page work much better cause i have a newer card.. wish that i could get 3d accel w/ the open driver..20:47
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AhmedHello20:47
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Ahmed\WHen i update by terminal  i get this error or something how do i clean this and update again "20:48
Ahmed\Fetched 3,659B in 2min 0s (30B/s)20:48
Ahmed\Reading package lists... Done20:48
Ahmed\W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/karmic/Release.gpg  Could not connect to packages.medibuntu.org:80 (88.191.82.11), connection timed out20:48
Torchsithlord48: buy nvidia. still a blob, but theirs works. ;-)20:48
Ahmed\W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/karmic/free/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Unable to connect to packages.medibuntu.org http:20:48
FloodBotK2Ahmed\: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:48
Ahmed\W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/karmic/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Unable to connect to packages.medibuntu.org http:20:48
PiciAhmed\: medibuntu's repository is temporarily down.20:48
Ahmed\SO what do i do i'm new to it..20:49
sithlord48torch, meh nvidia , the ati drivers/cards have come a long way since amd bought ati :) , but thanks ne way if i had one i would plop it in20:49
BluesKajsithlord48, are you recommending ati graphics ? I'm think of a better graphics card for my 5 yrold Desktoppc20:52
BluesKajerr thinking20:52
TorchBluesKaj: he's also saying he has major problems with their drivers.20:53
BluesKajsithlord48, are you recommending ati graphics ? I'm thinking of a better graphics card for my 5 yrold Desktoppc20:53
sithlord48blueskaj, no i not recomending im just saying since amd bought ati they seam to be going in the right direction20:54
Ahmed\I myself use ATI'S graphics card for my PC it works fine20:54
BluesKajok, Torch , i removed the nvidia 7600gt and installed it on my wifes pc in the t room since we're gonna use it as a media server , so I'm back to the ati x200m onboard for the desktop20:55
sithlord48and yes i am having a problem due to upgrading to lucid since i had their driver installed (a first time issues running w/ this card since jaunty alpha)20:55
BluesKajtv room20:55
BluesKajsithlord48, yeah, I'm back to rudimentary effects on the desktop, no more wobbly windows or cubed pages etc20:57
sithlord48blueskaj , at least you have 3d accel my card has an R700 chip and im stuck w/ the open driver and my card is one of the two chipsets that are not supported for 3d accel..20:58
BluesKajsithlord48,no 3d accel  DRI on lucid with the 200m20:59
sithlord48oh well ur stuck just like me eh21:00
Ahmed\Anyone knows how to totally change KDE or Gnome to Mac OS X theme ?21:00
sithlord48ewww why21:00
Ahmed\rwithout any serious problems21:00
Ahmed\hhhhhhhhhhh21:00
Ahmed\Just wanna check out21:00
sithlord48um check www.kde-look.org you should find some window themes and icon sets..21:01
Ahmed\lemme21:02
sithlord48um i think u can use caro dock for a dock but idk i like my kde to be like my kde not windows or mac ish :)21:02
Ahmed\huh21:02
Ahmed\carodock for linux ? right /21:02
sithlord48yea21:02
Ahmed\okay thanks21:02
Ahmed\will it be on synaptic updates ?21:03
BluesKajwell, sithlord48 , I'll prolly do an ebay for 6 or 7000 series nvidia card eventually , but geewhiz effects are boring after a bit. I just want to have tv/cable capability.21:03
sithlord48sorry its "cairo dock"21:03
sithlord48if u seen the stack of nvidia cards i had u might understand why im not gonna buy ne more21:04
BluesKajreally ?21:04
Ahmed\Thanks HUH i was confused looking for i21:04
Ahmed\it21:04
sithlord48yea i have killed an nvidia card just about every 3-4 months21:04
sithlord48althought if i had another card i would just use it for now .. but i none of them work :P21:05
sithlord48and to be fair i know people who do the same w/ ati cards (but so far this card has been working for me )21:07
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jmichaelxi just upgraded to lucid. everything seems to have gone well, except for the fact that my KDE panel is missing. would anyone know what i should do to get a panel to appear?22:21
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Typos_Kingjmichaelx:  try plasma-desktop22:22
ratscd /home/hrbllv42122:26
Typos_King?22:26
sithlord48does anyone know how to remove the ati driver so i can install the new version for lucid ?22:31
Typos_Kingsithlord48:     try checking in the installed apps, assuming it shows there, ->   dpkg -l | grep -i ati;   and use its name to remove it with -> sudo dpkg -r PACKAGENAME;22:33
sithlord48typos_king , its not installed that way .. the package needs to be removed first when i try i get "set FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL enviromental var then rerun (tried that w/ export .... ) no luck22:37
sithlord48does ne one know where i can get driver help , for ati ?23:16
Typos_King!ati | sithlord4823:23
ubottusithlord48: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto23:23
sithlord48!ati?23:23
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:23
sithlord48typos_king .. thanks :)23:24
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sithlord48how do i find my version of xorg ?23:33
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Typos_King...23:36
sithlord48well xorg --version don't work ... like it does w/ most other things :)23:36
Typos_KingI think you can check in /var/log/X.org.0.log23:38
Typos_KingI think you can check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log   <---23:38
Typos_Kingahh... ->   Xorg -version23:39
Typos_Kingthere23:39
sithlord48thanks 7.6 here :)23:42
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cristianhello23:43
Typos_Kingallo23:44
sithlord48wow u know its been so long since i had to tweak my xorg.conf i almost forgot i can do it . well if i can get basic 3d working i'll be happy and wait for a newer driver23:59

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