[00:00] i try to copy the file but it doesnt make it [00:00] Allydede: did you do it with sudo? [00:02] KDesk: no but how can i copy it from the usb to the /etc/X11 [00:02] KDesk: now i make sudo su [00:04] Allydede: better don't make sudo su. [00:04] KDesk: ok [00:04] Allydede: because you can forget that you are logged with su and the remove important files. [00:05] make something like: sudo cp /media/USB/file.bin /etc/X11/ [00:05] hi everyone :) is someone running KDE in a virtualbox under win7 ? :) i can't seem to use OpenGL for desktop effect even if i installed guest additions :/ [00:05] Allydede: reemplacing USB with the apropiate name, and file.bin also [00:05] KDesk: so i have it [00:06] KDesk: i must make it with sudo because there was permission problems [00:06] Allydede: that is normal, in /etc only root can write, there are some operation system files, not user files [00:07] KDesk: ah ok [00:07] Allydede: now you need the file xorg.conf, I thing one like the one from the forum. [00:08] KDesk: i have it [00:08] i just have the old [00:08] KDesk: i rename it to xorg.conf now [00:08] KDesk: now restart and hope its work :) [00:08] Allydede: ok. good luck [00:09] KDesk: thx see u [00:40] KDesk: hey noch da! [00:40] Allydede: ja :) [00:40] KDesk: oops i mean are u there:D [00:40] Allydede: did it work? [00:41] KDesk: no :( the graphik place dont come [00:41] KDesk: i had only the black screen where i can work with the commands [00:41] Allydede: did you made the spet 3? Install the drivers? [00:42] KDesk: no :) because i dont no which drivers [00:42] Allydede: ah, let's see.. [00:43] KDesk: yes..! [00:44] Allydede run: jockey-kde [00:44] KDesk: searchig for driver... [00:45] now he find that the driver is not aktiv [00:45] and if i will klick to the Aktivieren button he make nothing [00:46] i havent premission [00:46] how can i install it with premission [00:48] Allydede: hmm, lets me see [00:48] Is there anyone here who has Kolf installed and can check if the players can be removed with the button right next to them when starting a new game? [00:49] Allydede: I thought it should work. Then try: kdesudo jockey-kde [00:49] KDesk: yes :) [00:49] its install [00:49] :) [00:50] what is this? [00:51] KDesk: ok its installed i just make a restart [00:51] KDesk: 1 min [00:59] Would anyone help me by installing Kolf and check if the players can be removed with the button right next to them when starting a new game? [00:59] I am triaging bugs and it seems this issue was only present in Kubuntu. === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ === missy is now known as witchy [01:32] KDesk: are u there! [01:47] KDesk: bin ma pennen versuche es morgen weiter :) nacht und danke [01:55] Hi people, I'm a new linux user and I'm happy to join you [01:56] hi QazMan [01:57] there is someone hehe === andrew_ is now known as Guest71589 [02:06] QazMan..got a question , or are you just happy to be here :) ? [02:49] how do you remove a package you installed, its dependencies and any directories it created? Also, know of any hacks I can run when installing a package to keep all that info handy or is there a log kept? [02:51] demism: The logs are at /var/log/dpkg.log* [02:51] demism: You can also use deborphan. [02:52] demism: Apt also tries to detect unused libs on your system and notifies you when you do `apt-get upgrade` [03:05] I need help. How do i get a different mouse theme on kubuntu 9.10? [03:07] using WICD, I cannot create ad-hoc network. Next button is not working [03:07] I need help. How do i get a different mouse theme on kubuntu 9.10? [03:08] how do i get flash for konqueror web browser [03:25] had anyone tried kubuntu 10.4? [03:26] TommyThaGun: Yes running it here [03:26] any thoughts? is it lightyears ahead of 9.10? [03:27] I think it is very very stable [03:27] not so many bloody edge features... more stability [03:27] did you do a fresh install? upgrade from an old kubuntu? or did you install kubuntu on top of ubuntu? [03:27] I upgraded [03:27] that's good. Stability is one of the issues I've had with KDe in the past [03:28] oh ok [03:28] from karmic (9.10) [03:28] I seem to always have issues if I try installing Kubuntu on top of Ubuntu [03:28] However, the machines started both out with hardy or jaunty [03:28] nice [03:29] so you've been with it for a while [03:29] well.. I have both desktops installed and upgrade from previous release [03:29] however, I usually only use KDE [03:29] I have Gnome only for testing and bug-triage purposes installed [03:29] interesting [03:30] I upgraded beta-1 I believe [03:30] maybe I'll just give it a try [03:31] well.. just be careful if you have an ndivia graphics adapter [03:31] You need to gave the right drivers [03:31] I really really want to like KDE. It seems like every time I see a picture of it my jaw drops and I drool... it looks so good. But for some reason whenever I try using it I quickly revert back to Gnome [03:32] oh ok, I don't [03:32] Well... often it is a matter of being used to something [03:32] true [03:33] I find that it always takes me twice as long dealing with the Gnome desktop.. mostly because I am not used to it [03:33] interesting [03:33] I find the same to be true with KDE [03:33] it's like, they took away my keyboard shortcuts [03:33] Yes.. I can imagine that [03:33] Well. you can define your shortcuts [03:33] among other things [03:34] should I install kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-kde4-desktop? [03:34] systemsettings->keyboard&mouse->global keyboard shortcuts [03:34] there is no kde3 anymore [03:34] oh ok. that will be good to know. I'll just have to get in and poke around a lot [03:35] I think kubuntu-kde4-desktop is a meta package for the upgrade from hardy.. I can find out if you like me to [03:36] no worries [03:36] Yes.. it is a remininence... there is nothing behind it [03:37] oh ok [03:37] kubuntu-desktop is the right one [03:38] sweet [03:38] I'm giving it a go. just installing [03:44] weird. It stopped downloading, after letting it wait a bit I quit it, now it's saying "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" [03:45] hmm [03:45] are you using a package manager? [03:46] I was using apt-get [03:46] and there is no other package manager open [03:47] maybe something crashed the last time and did not remove the lock [03:47] is there a way to manually remove it, or do I need to reboot? [03:47] yes remove the lock file in that directory [03:47] you need to use sudo obviously [03:48] oh [03:48] so it's literally just a file called lock in that directory... [03:48] interesting [03:48] yes [03:51] well, I feel like that's a good thing to know [03:52] well. just don't remove it when an application is still running that created it [03:52] that can mess some things up [03:52] got it [03:52] that would be bad [03:54] Hi [03:55] BiggBang: just ask your question [03:55] Yes [03:55] Ièm just reading. Thanks [03:55] I am [03:56] ok [03:56] I was configuring Quassel [03:57] When the next version will be available ? [03:58] end of the month [03:58] Beta ? [03:58] 28th or something like this [03:58] the full release [03:58] Ok :) ty [03:58] beta is already out [03:58] I took a break lol [03:59] Will it be more powerful ? [04:00] More features ? [04:00] Less bugs ? [04:00] a lot more syabl [04:00] a lot more stable [04:00] I see [04:00] it is an LTS [04:01] What is means ? [04:01] LTS ? [04:01] Long Term Support [04:01] :) [04:01] 3 years of security fixes [04:01] instead of 18 month [04:01] Great === BiggBang is now known as BiggFREE [04:08] I was not using the good nick. [04:08] I am on Freenode. [04:09] Will it have a bigger size that 9.10 ?6 [04:09] than [04:09] size? [04:10] Download ? [04:10] the iso is the same [04:10] I am limited :( Ok [04:10] otherwise, it depends on the packages you have installed [04:11] Just securities and recommended updates [04:11] Basic only [04:12] ty for all your info :) [04:13] Bye for now [04:13] tc [05:13] Hola..?? [05:14] Cómo funciona esto..?? [05:14] Hello..?? [06:13] Hey all [06:14] I recently started using Sribus, for desktop publishing, and in their IRC channel they informed me that Scribus has a lot of problems on K/Ubuntu because of Qt patches. [06:15] Are these bugs causing compatibility issues, or do KDE applications have to be written specifically for KDE to work right? [06:37] How come a tutorial on ubuntuforums.com doesn't match up with qt4-config? === gaurav__ is now known as Guest43571 [06:55] wth happened to the LIbrary Path tab in QtConfig?? [07:19] good moring [07:20] how to install pulseaudio? i have installed pavucontrol, but can't run it: Connection failed === sysadmin is now known as Guest660 === Guest660 is now known as sysadmin-051 [07:31] !pulseaudio [07:31] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions === Daugha|n is now known as Daughain [07:33] this wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio is really old.. it's fot Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10.. what about karmic 9.10? same process.. or another? === jtheuer_ is now known as jtheuer [08:50] good morning [09:05] Hi, is there a known problem with the skype kopete plugin? Skype crashes as soon as I try to something with it [09:34] Moin Leute, ich versuche KDE auf einen 2. Bildschirm auszuweiten. xorg scheint richtig konfiguriert zu sein, es erscheint auf dem 2. Bildschirm der x-förmige Cursor von xorg, aber KDE hat's nicht erkannt... [09:35] the3rdBIT: you'll need to /j #ubuntu-de or speak english mate [09:35] oops thnx [09:35] np [09:36] hi people, i try to expand my kde desktop on a second screen, but there just appears the x-cursor of xorg [09:36] the3rdBIT: do you have an nvidia car? [09:36] *card [09:36] yes, GeForce 8500 GT [09:37] it seems to work, but kde don't recognize the second screen [09:37] the3rdBIT: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 - tells how to use two screens [09:38] hi everyone :) is someone running KDE in a virtualbox under win7 ? :) i can't seem to use OpenGL for desktop effect even if i installed guest additions :/ [09:38] the3rdBIT: using restricted drivers for the card? [09:38] moetunes: the proprietary one [09:39] k - try the link and see if it improves the3rdBIT [09:39] moetunes: ok thnx :) [09:39] :) np [09:41] moetunes: but this just explains how to configure xorg, but xorg seems to work already [09:43] the3rdBIT: k - that's about the limit of my knowledgs on that - matbe someone else will speak up... [09:43] s/matbe/maybe === |SatManUK| is now known as SatManUK [09:46] moetunes: you mean smatt454? [09:46] the3rdBIT: I don't know of smatt454... [09:50] moetunes: maybe i'll find someone on the #xorg channel :) [09:50] the3rdBIT: luck :) === wolf66 is now known as pescobar [11:28] Hello guys anyone here he can help me to my problem with nvidia GT 310M === donald is now known as Guest24603 === with_Tscheesy is now known as Mausschubser [13:30] hi guys.. short question: did anyone of you try out the google chrome browser on kubuntu yet? just wanted to ask if it was as buggy as on my system, everywhere... [13:31] I use chrome [13:32] harjot: almost nothing works on my system.. any idea? not even the "themes" site from google... [13:32] also I cna not scroll for some reason... [13:32] It all works on my system except some flash and java stuff [13:32] hmm [13:33] Which chrome are you using ? [13:33] the newest [13:33] 64bit deb package from googles website [13:33] no problem here either. except for the pdf plugin [13:34] im using 32 bit [13:34] It could be your 64 bit system [13:34] Im just guessing, i have not much idea [13:35] yeah I am on a 64 bit system [13:35] maybe that's the reason.. [13:35] https://tools.google.com/chrome/intl/en/themes/index.html for example on this page chromium just keeps loading... [13:36] mines loads [13:36] i mean this is googles own webpage.. I woud rather think that under normal circumstances that page should work in chromium ^^ [13:36] Have you tried reinstalling it from synaptic? because they add the repository there [13:36] after you install the package [13:37] the google repostiory for synaptic is http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ [13:38] ahh cool didn't know that they have repository... [13:39] Same, i just read about it [13:39] try the unstable version and the real one and see which one wworks [13:40] because I mean I already realised ... chromium is REALLY fast compared with firefox and konqueror [13:41] actually, chrome is the same speed as firefox, but looks faster cause its cleaner, but the tab switching is faster and its less prone to crashes [13:42] depends what speed you are measuring. the chrome ui is alot faster on my crappy computer [13:42] hmm... seems like there is only an unstable version... [13:42] in the repositories [13:42] try that [13:43] yeah that's just the one I am already using [13:43] ive got the beta + the unstable listed [13:43] did you download the beta? [13:43] yeah [13:44] ahh I should rather use "chromium" than google-* as a search string :) [13:44] there it is ... [13:45] is it? [13:45] I thought searching chrome works? [13:45] oh yeah have you updated your repository list? [13:48] howlymowly: actually i just read that the unstable one is the only 64 bit one [13:48] hmm.. so i guess that's bad news then.. [13:49] yup [13:49] have you tried running it from terminal aND SEEing what happens? [13:50] pastebin the log [13:50] or output [13:51] lol? suddenly it works.... [13:51] how? [13:51] i didn#t change anything.. [13:51] just ran it from cli [13:51] what from wherE? [13:51] temrinal [13:51] *terminal [13:51] and its working? [13:51] hi what version of the kernel was being used for 9.10 as of its release? [13:52] cli= command line interface [13:52] howlymowly: try launching it from the button [13:52] howlymowly: see what happens [13:52] harjot: ... [13:52] I am trying to understand why Kubuntu is the only distro that supports a HP Pavlilion dv7-2230sa [13:52] without having to dissable acpi [13:52] howlymowly: nothing happens? [13:53] hmm. harjot... works from the menu now, too [13:53] I have no idea, what's going on... [13:53] ok so you are lucky, lol [13:53] i guess so, harjot ^^ [13:54] hmmm.... what a pity.. there is no chromium "oxygen" theme :) [13:55] hmm i dont think so [13:56] harjot: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kromium+Project?content=117783 just found this :) [13:56] and I can confirm: it works [13:57] nice [13:57] oxygen [13:58] Its more of a global change [14:04] ok... one last thing... harjot how do I install adblock on chromium? [14:13] howlymowly: theres a plugin for that [14:13] howlymowly: you can install the chrome plugins in chromium too ;) [14:14] shadeslayer: well... sorry for my stupidity but whats the differenc ebetween chrome and chromium? [14:14] *between [14:14] howlymowly: nothing! [14:15] howlymowly: its just that google takes chromium,changes the name,adds google branding and a auto updater for Windows system and offers it for download [14:16] ahh... didn't know that :) [14:16] howlymowly: yeah i found this info while trawling the webz :D [14:16] --> is there a place where all chromium extensions are gathered? like with mozilla firefox? [14:16] i found this: http://www.chromeextensions.org/appearance-functioning/adblock/ but seems like my browser is the wrong version? I can not install it for some reason.. [14:18] howlymowly: https://chrome.google.com/extensions [14:20] kk thx shadeslayer [14:21] howlymowly: no problem [14:34] howlymowly: sorry i was away, have you managed to install adblock? [14:34] yepp.. worked :) [14:37] ok good [14:37] how can I take the amount of memory used by my program in c++ under linux? [14:38] I have no idea, im not a programming guru [14:39] benishor: you can use valgrind for that [14:39] txwikinger: I need realtime reports [14:39] I think valgrind can do that [14:40] if not I need to look through a presentation I was lately, there was a tool that could do that [14:40] txwikinger: I just want to find out in c++. what fields would make sense from getrusage() ? [14:41] why don't you write some makeshift profiler into your code then? [14:42] sometimes you own debugging statements work a lot better than big packages [14:44] I think I will go down that route, thank you [15:25] hey guys, but if someone wants to use the webcam for a chat wich client has to use? === gary_ is now known as Guest34295 [16:01] do y'all like Quassel or Konversation more? [16:03] or neither? [16:04] quassel doesn't seem responsive [16:04] hmm [16:06] TommyThaGun: I prefer to use Quassel with a remote core which is always logged in. [16:06] * txwikinger uses quassel === naksu is now known as Joonaksu [16:59] What is the story with Kubuntu and pulseaudio? Should I use it or am I better off removing pulseaudio from my system? [17:04] how do I increase my bash history please to unlimited or never expire? [17:17] olskolirc: you can't have an "unlimited" history, but in .bashrc add the lines "declare -x HISTFILESIZE=1000000000" and "declare -x HISTSIZE=1000000" (without quotes), that'll be almost unlimited [17:18] you'll need to run "source ~/.bashrc" for it to take effect [17:38] just recieved Kubuntu and am trying it from the CD, while trying to play music stored on my HDD aramok does nothing, and dragon video will play video files but with no sound or immage, is this because it is playing from CD or am i missing something? [17:38] Searching for someone having experiance with lomoco [17:52] heloo [17:53] i have a problem with keybord [17:54] it s qwerty i like to be azerty === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer === mikekap` is now known as mikekap [18:08] ok idiot moron question of the day, at least for me. I have a share defined on a server, directory mask of 0777, and folders are still being created with permissions of drwxr-sr-x [18:08] oh samba share btw === xavier is now known as Guest579 [18:15] ok idiot moron question of the day, at least for me. I have a samba share defined on a server, directory mask of 0777, and folders are still being created with permissions of drwxr-sr-x [18:28] Hii all I have just installed Ubuntu one on my system through the software centre.. but but cant we use ubuntu one on KDE [18:32] Hii all I have just installed Ubuntu one on my system through the software centre.. but but cant we use ubuntu one on KDE [18:35] !ask | vivek [18:35] vivek: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [18:35] !patience | vivek [18:35] vivek: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. === codolio is now known as dolio [18:35] Hii all I have just installed Ubuntu one on my system through the software centre.. but but cant we use ubuntu one on KDE [18:36] vivek: I think Ubuntu One works also in KDE [18:37] txwikinger: In GNOME i could see that in applications.. but here it is not there!.. do you know how to use it here [18:37] Did you look in the System Tray? [18:37] hmm it is not there [18:38] Then run in from the K-Menu [18:38] Even use alt+f2 to run aubuntu one .. but no [18:38] hi [18:38] !ask sujith [18:38] I need a help [18:38] !ask | sujith [18:38] sujith: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [18:39] txwikinger:Please stop trying to moderate [18:39] yes sujith! [18:40] vivek: sorry, that is my job here [18:40] I installed kubuntu 10.04 on my laptop (which has already ubuntu and windows vista dual boot) and now iam not able to access my existing partions and I can see whole harddisk as a single volume [18:41] how to get my files [18:41] any idea [18:42] sujith: If you have overwritten your partition during the installation that is probably not possible anymore [18:42] txwikinger:Moderator.. ok... [18:42] not overwritten the full parttion [18:42] sujith: get it from last backup [18:42] I dont have a backup. [18:43] sujith: using beta-software without a backup? nice... how much partitions does "sudo fdisk -l" show? [18:44] sujith: How did you install kubuntu? via iso or by installing the kubuntu-desktop package? [18:44] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [18:44] /dev/sda1 * 1 18709 150277120 83 Linux [18:44] /dev/sda2 18709 19458 6010881 5 Extended [18:44] /dev/sda5 18709 19458 6010880 82 Linux swap / Solaris [18:44] sujith: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [18:44] via iso...usb boot [18:45] sujith; time to take the lesson of backups to hear [18:45] sujith: the installer repartitioned your drive, congrats [18:45] sujith; nothing but linux there now [18:45] so is there any way now [18:45] sujith; not really [18:46] sujith: try some recovery tools [18:46] sujith: You used the wrong option in the installation process. You asked the installer to use the entire disk [18:46] sujith; maybe a byte by byte scan of the hdd from return something. But thats not worth it [18:46] that has overwritten your existing partitions [18:46] ok [18:46] sujith; best course of action, learn from the mistake and BACKUP [18:46] +1 [18:46] sujith: but maybe you can get something from the recovery [18:47] is there recovery tool in ubuntu [18:47] now i have 10.04 kubuntu OS [18:47] sujith: under linux [18:47] sujith: try testdisk [18:47] sujith; any recovery tool that might work would need to be run from outside the os and would almost certianlly ruin your new install. [18:48] sujith; but again, unless you had lotto numbers there, or your really into causing your self hours of headache, just forget about what you had there and learn to back up. I have tried recovery and it's just not worth it [18:48] sujith: http://easyrecovery.qarchive.org/ [18:49] sujith: stop using that hdd if oyu want to recover anything. every writeaccess will lower the chances to get files back [18:49] ok [18:50] I dont bother about this new partion but I need my lost data's lots of old photos [18:50] so I need that datas [18:50] sujith; he is write, hard power the machine now, and use a recovery tool you can only recover files that have not be overwritten and only unlinked (normally) so stop writing to that disk. [18:50] sujith: use a live-cd, make an image of your hdd and try to recover from that image-file then [18:51] but for that I need a external HDD right [18:52] for any recovery you are going to need external media [18:52] sujith: likely, you cannot store data on the drive you want to recover from [18:53] ok [18:53] is there any recovery tool available with the Kubuntu installation cd [18:53] not that can do that [18:54] you can try fdisking back to the orignal partition layout and praying but that probabbly wont work [18:55] honestly, I know you want you data back, but all your going to do is pull out your hair, there is not a really go way to do what your asking quickly. [18:55] help [18:55] he [18:55] is it due MBR over writing ? [18:56] it will take time, effort, and a lot of research to pull it off, and even then, it most likly won't get everything [18:56] а как тут [18:56] !ask | miho [18:56] miho: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [18:57] sujith; no, you changed the partition table, you basicaly moved all the rooms in your house around and now you want to find your bed, but it's not in the bedroom anymore it's in the kictchen under the stove, and it was lit on fire by the heat [18:58] ok thanks [18:58] you might be able to get some semeblence of the matriss back, but your better off jsut buying a new bed [18:59] and learning that next time you remodle(partition/update/whatever) move your furtunature out first (backup) [18:59] how to run testdisk [19:00] I installed it [19:00] ok idiot moron question of the day, at least for me. I have a sambe share defined on a server, directory mask of 0777, and folders are still being created with permissions of drwxr-sr-x [19:00] sujith: stop using that harddisk, everytime the system writes to your disk, the chances to get stuff back shrink [19:01] sujith: use something like helix for recovery, not your installed system http://www.e-fense.com/products.php [19:02] Hi, I just installed the fglrx and it's awfully slow. I understood this problem was supposed to be fixed month ago - what am I missing? [19:03] I installed a new ubuntu system [19:04] what is root password for this [19:04] sujith, there is no root [19:04] !root > sujith [19:04] sujith, please see my private message [19:04] sujith, however you can set one by typing sudo passwd root [19:05] Ahox_: Which is not recommended since it introduces an insecurity especially when the system is on the Internet [19:07] txwikinger, I agree, however there are some reasons why you really want a root. In which case the daemons must be secure, i.e. nopasswd for root in ssh, etc [19:08] Ahox_: what do you think the reasons are? [19:09] llutz, e.g. the management system expects a root login, thats the case for us [19:11] Ahox_: Well.. that is hopefully only done by very experienced admins.. I wouldn't recommend it to people who don't have nough experience [19:11] txwikinger, I agree that the general user does not need a root password [19:12] having said that, anyone has experience with the fglrx driver? It's awfully slow [19:12] and the radeon driver does not show the mouse cursor [19:14] Ahox_: I have not dared installing lucid on the the nvidia box yet [19:14] its still the 9.10 (with the ati driver) [19:15] well.. try the proprietary nvidia driver [19:15] It worked ok on my box, but I did not do any speed tests [19:16] Ah.. sorry nvidia is gforce.. not radeon, right? [19:16] txwikinger, indeed [19:16] * txwikinger has too many different hardware configurations :) [19:16] Ahox_; i am running at on two laptops, [19:17] coteyr, the fglrx ones? Do you also use the 10.3? [19:17] 9.10 on one of them was just a horrid mess untill the update to lucid, both now worked out of the box, there were kernel conflicts. [19:18] both would work if I updated the kernel to >= 2.6.32 [19:18] but I couldn't do that on the one laptop. It was an HD card though and they were not supported by the radion driver [19:19] coteyr, so you would recommend an upgrade to lucid? [19:20] Ahox_; up I upgraded and am having a fine time, but it's still beta so .... I guess the offical answer is complie (or use) a newer kernel in 9.10, but I havn't had any problems in lucid. [19:20] well, this is just my private machine, so I am fine with a beta. Let's try it [19:21] Ahox_, also give mesa and flgrx libs a poking to make sure your not running mesa libs after some odd update [19:25] Guys, can you help me? [19:25] with what ? [19:25] i need 30 users connect in my app [19:25] http://aovivo.pop-ba.rnp.br/stream/ [19:25] Red5 [19:26] open source rtmp server [19:26] this is not the place to ask [19:26] this is a support channel [19:27] ok, thks [19:27] =/ [19:27] no problem === shadeslayer is now known as evilshadeslayer === yofel_ is now known as yofel === jrigby_lunch is now known as jrigby [20:10] este vroun roman pe aici [20:10] ? === nploett is now known as nobbie-p [20:29] does anyone here know how to set the FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL enviromental var ? [20:30] sithlord48: i dunno that one but can't you just set it like any other env var? [20:31] Torch , via export varname=value ? [20:31] sithlord48: yes [20:32] Torch, yea i tried that ... didn't seam to work, maybe i have to do so as root [20:32] sithlord48: you need to have some understanding of how env vars work [20:32] torch, please do tell [20:32] sithlord48: if you export a var in one shell, it's only exported in that specific session. [20:33] sithlord48: you can NOT open a shell, export a var, close the shell and think this was it. because it will have no effect at all. [20:33] torch, ok so i set that then re run the uninstall script then it tells me to set it and run the script [20:33] torch, yea all in same shell [20:34] Torch: you can add it to /etc/environment [20:34] i just want to uninstall the fglrx driver so i can finish my upgrade :) [20:37] sithlord48: i don't know anything about ati and their scripts, but in general, exporting the env var in a shell and afterwards running the script that needs it set should just work [20:37] sithlord48: even with sudo [20:37] torch, i was hoping you were not gonna say that ,since i already knew that :P [20:38] sithlord48: either you're making a really stupid mistake (we all do from time to time, right? ;-)) or the script is broken. [20:38] sithlord48: google might help [20:39] Torch, i tried google i can see the output i get from the script but nothing really more then export var.. then run sh ./script [20:40] ok lets assume the script is broken, how would i manually remove the install so i can finish my upgrade ? [20:40] sithlord48: you want to remove ati's binary blob driver from your system? [20:40] oh might want to note i tried dpkg--configre -a (and w/ --force-all no luck..) seams i have to uninstall it first [20:41] torch, apparently i have to so i can install the newer version of fglrx included w/ lucid. [20:42] sithlord48: and you did install the blob manually? [20:42] torch, yes via there .run package [20:44] sithlord48: there might be a corrupt mix of ati's run-script-installed driver and debs from ubuntu now on your system, but this is only guessing. i still think google is your best bet. [20:45] torch, well it was late last night and i had to fight just to get the gui back after upload, so i will give it another go when i get back to the machine. === plassy is now known as plassyAtDaMovie [20:46] sithlord48: i wouldn't ever recommend to install ati or nvidia drivers from the vendor's web page on ubuntu. [20:47] torch, :P most people wound't but the ati drivers on the page work much better cause i have a newer card.. wish that i could get 3d accel w/ the open driver.. === ubuntu is now known as Ahmed [20:47] Hello === Ahmed is now known as Guest51632 === Guest51632 is now known as Ahmed\ [20:48] WHen i update by terminal i get this error or something how do i clean this and update again " [20:48] Fetched 3,659B in 2min 0s (30B/s) [20:48] Reading package lists... Done [20:48] W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/karmic/Release.gpg Could not connect to packages.medibuntu.org:80 (88.191.82.11), connection timed out [20:48] sithlord48: buy nvidia. still a blob, but theirs works. ;-) [20:48] W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/karmic/free/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2 Unable to connect to packages.medibuntu.org http: [20:48] Ahmed\: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [20:48] W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/karmic/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2 Unable to connect to packages.medibuntu.org http: [20:48] Ahmed\: medibuntu's repository is temporarily down. [20:49] SO what do i do i'm new to it.. [20:49] torch, meh nvidia , the ati drivers/cards have come a long way since amd bought ati :) , but thanks ne way if i had one i would plop it in [20:52] sithlord48, are you recommending ati graphics ? I'm think of a better graphics card for my 5 yrold Desktoppc [20:52] err thinking [20:53] BluesKaj: he's also saying he has major problems with their drivers. [20:53] sithlord48, are you recommending ati graphics ? I'm thinking of a better graphics card for my 5 yrold Desktoppc [20:54] blueskaj, no i not recomending im just saying since amd bought ati they seam to be going in the right direction [20:54] I myself use ATI'S graphics card for my PC it works fine [20:55] ok, Torch , i removed the nvidia 7600gt and installed it on my wifes pc in the t room since we're gonna use it as a media server , so I'm back to the ati x200m onboard for the desktop [20:55] and yes i am having a problem due to upgrading to lucid since i had their driver installed (a first time issues running w/ this card since jaunty alpha) [20:55] tv room [20:57] sithlord48, yeah, I'm back to rudimentary effects on the desktop, no more wobbly windows or cubed pages etc [20:58] blueskaj , at least you have 3d accel my card has an R700 chip and im stuck w/ the open driver and my card is one of the two chipsets that are not supported for 3d accel.. [20:59] sithlord48,no 3d accel DRI on lucid with the 200m [21:00] oh well ur stuck just like me eh [21:00] Anyone knows how to totally change KDE or Gnome to Mac OS X theme ? [21:00] ewww why [21:00] rwithout any serious problems [21:00] hhhhhhhhhhh [21:00] Just wanna check out [21:01] um check www.kde-look.org you should find some window themes and icon sets.. [21:02] lemme [21:02] um i think u can use caro dock for a dock but idk i like my kde to be like my kde not windows or mac ish :) [21:02] huh [21:02] carodock for linux ? right / [21:02] yea [21:02] okay thanks [21:03] will it be on synaptic updates ? [21:03] well, sithlord48 , I'll prolly do an ebay for 6 or 7000 series nvidia card eventually , but geewhiz effects are boring after a bit. I just want to have tv/cable capability. [21:03] sorry its "cairo dock" [21:04] if u seen the stack of nvidia cards i had u might understand why im not gonna buy ne more [21:04] really ? [21:04] Thanks HUH i was confused looking for i [21:04] it [21:04] yea i have killed an nvidia card just about every 3-4 months [21:05] althought if i had another card i would just use it for now .. but i none of them work :P [21:07] and to be fair i know people who do the same w/ ati cards (but so far this card has been working for me ) === Hazamonzo_ is now known as Hazamonzo === WindPower_ is now known as WindPower [22:21] i just upgraded to lucid. everything seems to have gone well, except for the fact that my KDE panel is missing. would anyone know what i should do to get a panel to appear? === plassyAtDaMovie is now known as plassy [22:22] jmichaelx: try plasma-desktop [22:26] cd /home/hrbllv421 [22:26] ? [22:31] does anyone know how to remove the ati driver so i can install the new version for lucid ? [22:33] sithlord48: try checking in the installed apps, assuming it shows there, -> dpkg -l | grep -i ati; and use its name to remove it with -> sudo dpkg -r PACKAGENAME; [22:37] typos_king , its not installed that way .. the package needs to be removed first when i try i get "set FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL enviromental var then rerun (tried that w/ export .... ) no luck [23:16] does ne one know where i can get driver help , for ati ? [23:23] !ati | sithlord48 [23:23] sithlord48: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [23:23] !ati? [23:23] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [23:24] typos_king .. thanks :) === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [23:33] how do i find my version of xorg ? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [23:36] ... [23:36] well xorg --version don't work ... like it does w/ most other things :) [23:38] I think you can check in /var/log/X.org.0.log [23:38] I think you can check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log <--- [23:39] ahh... -> Xorg -version [23:39] there [23:42] thanks 7.6 here :) === harrison is now known as apple_cat [23:43] hello [23:44] allo [23:59] wow u know its been so long since i had to tweak my xorg.conf i almost forgot i can do it . well if i can get basic 3d working i'll be happy and wait for a newer driver