[00:03] <micahg> persia: bug 257219
[00:14] <lifeless> is there a bug open about lp bugmail sending it to our email address, rather than to the bug itself with just envelope to us ?
[01:15] <persia> lifeless: There are some bugs about how LP's email system exposes private email addesses in bugmail which could be fixed as you describe.  I'm not sure there's a bug specifically about that.
[01:20] <ddecator> anyone have any ideas on why a report would timeout whenever i attempt to make it private for three days now?
[01:21] <micahg> ddecator: try on production
[01:22] <micahg> ddecator: and file a report against malone
[01:22] <ddecator> micahg: er, this may be a stupid question, but what do you mean by "try on production"?
[01:22] <micahg> ddecator: not edge
[01:22] <nigelb> edge vs no edge?
[01:23]  * micahg can't keep all the terms straight
[01:23] <ddecator> is edge the default?
[01:24] <nigelb> no, edge is beta code
[01:24] <ddecator> i don't think i'm using edge then
[01:26] <spiv> edge has "edge" in the url, e.g. https://edge.launchpad.net/...
[01:28] <ddecator> yah, no edge in the url
[01:28] <ddecator> and i don't see a report filed yet, so i'll make one
[01:28] <nigelb> ddecator, then try with edge ;)
[01:29] <lifeless> lol
[01:29] <lifeless> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/548
[01:29] <lifeless> I'm surprised it only has 7 'affects me'
[01:31] <persia> Some of us (e.g. me) like it, as noted in comment #5
[01:31] <ddecator> nigelb: still timed out =p
[01:31] <nigelb> ddecator, file bug :)
[01:32] <ddecator> nigelb: already working on it
[01:32] <nigelb> persia, +1 Me too
[01:35] <ddecator> hm, would this be considered a security vulnerability?
[01:36] <persia> ddecator: The can't make stuff private issue?  Unlikely.  Any bug that isn't private already has all it's attachments and comments available in several public locations on the internet.  Making them private later doesn't do much useful.
[01:37] <ddecator> persia: true, i guess it isn't since the reporter made it public and not the bug
[01:38] <ddecator> there we go
[01:38] <ddecator> micahg: is there a bugmail list you aren't subscribed to? o.o
[01:39] <micahg> ddecator: sure
[01:39] <nigelb> hehe
[01:40] <ddecator> alright, now back to packaging. thanks for the help everyone
[01:48] <micahg> ddecator: you need the bug # and the oops message if you have it for your bug
[01:49] <ddecator> micahg: wasn't sure if it was ok to put the bug number, but i can add it. one sec
[01:54] <ddecator> done
[02:31] <Sazpaimon> I want to sync my sourceforge project with launchpad, is there a simple way to do this or is it all just a big copy and paste job?
[03:07] <thebwt> is there a way to confirm the existance of a ppa with launchpadlib?
[03:17] <wgrant> thebwt: lp.people['somebody'].getPPAByName(name='ppa')?
[03:19] <thebwt> wgrant: thanks :D
[03:43] <Sazpaimon> if I edit a release URL pattern, does it automatically get the releases in it or do I need to wait?
[03:43] <Sazpaimon> or, can i manually make it find new releases
[03:44] <Sazpaimon> i want to know if I got it right
[03:53] <wgrant> Sazpaimon: That's run on a reasonably infrequent cron job. There's no way to speed it up, I'm afraid.
[03:53] <Sazpaimon> i guess I'll just manually add the releases then
[03:53] <mwhudson> it theoretically runs every day, i think
[03:54] <Sazpaimon> i'm trying to figure out a decent way to sync up to my sourceforge site
[03:54] <Sazpaimon> obviously launchpad wasnt made to have users have the best of both worlds
[03:56] <mwhudson> well it was, but it requires a lot of patience :-)
[03:57] <Sazpaimon> unfortunately I can't sync my stable and tags folders from my server's svn repository onto lp
[03:57] <Sazpaimon> just trunk, for some silly reason :/
[03:57] <mwhudson> Sazpaimon: the tags should be present in the import of trunk, i think
[03:58] <Sazpaimon> no, when i added my svn repo, it forced me to just add trunk
[03:59] <Sazpaimon> i wanted to add my stable svn branch for my stable series, but i couldn't do thqat
[03:59] <Sazpaimon> *that
[03:59] <spiv> Sazpaimon: lp:kusabax?
[04:00] <Sazpaimon> yeah
[04:00] <Sazpaimon> I'm trying to ressurect it, it laid pretty dormant for a while, and now I want to utilize the OSS community to help with development
[04:00] <Sazpaimon> i figured launchpad would be a great start
[04:01] <spiv> Well, the import did import that the tags exist: bzr tags -d lp:kusabax
[04:01] <spiv> Unfortunately, because the tags are of revisions not on trunk, they aren't particularly useful :/
[04:02] <spiv> If LP imported the tag revisions into the trunk history too, that would help.
[04:02] <spiv> Into the trunk repo, I mean.
[04:02] <Sazpaimon> if lp imported tag revisions, it could basically write my entire series for me
[04:03] <spiv> mwhudson: I wonder if it would be hard to tweak LP's importer to also grab all the revids for the tags?
[04:04] <spiv> Sazpaimon: you can run "bzr svn-import" locally I guess.
[04:05] <spiv> Sazpaimon: and push the results to LP yourself.  It's not a great answer, but if trunk is the only branch/tag that changes frequently it might not be too large a burden.
[04:05] <Sazpaimon> trunk changes frequently, but stable also has a few changes
[04:06] <Sazpaimon> tags have no changes, they're only the releases put there for historical reasons
[04:07] <Sazpaimon> i guess i'll just do what you said, add a new branch series for stable
[04:11] <Sazpaimon> if it helps, you can see my repo here: http://kusabax.cultnet.net/svn/repo/
[04:16] <damian> when I try to join a group I get "No REFERER Header", how do I fix firefox to send the referrer header
[05:53] <Kryptix> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[05:53] <Kryptix> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[05:53] <Kryptix> Thanks for your patience.
[05:53] <Sazpaimon> well, let's see if my new .pot file gets reviewed quickly...
[06:06] <thumper> Kryptix: which url?
[06:07] <Kryptix> closed it now, was mysqlatfacebook trying to look through their repo
[06:15] <sohum> is launchpad down? I keep getting "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. "
[06:15] <sohum> ah, there we go
[06:49] <rww> Hello! My LoCo team wants to attach a Bazaar branch(/repository... I'm not sure of the vocabulary) to put our marketing materials in. Does anyone have any particular recommendations on doing it (as far as I can see, it's as simple as clicking "Register a Branch" and making a new Hosted branch)? Also, if we do this, will all team members get email notifications related to it, or just people that
[06:49] <rww> subscribe themselves (i.e., is it opt-in or opt-out)?
[06:56] <spiv> rww: it is that simple (in fact, you can even skip the "Register a Branch" bit and just push a new branch to Launchpad)
[06:57] <spiv> rww: I'm not sure about the exact details of the email notifications, though.  I think typically only merge proposals for a branch generate email notifications, and I think that's opt-out for team members, but I could be wrong.
[06:58] <rww> hrm, opt-out would be an issue. we have a couple of hundred team members, and I'm guessing about ten of them would actually want notifications
[06:59] <micahg> spiv: I know for our branches (mozillateam) it seems to be opt in
[06:59] <rww> does staging send out email notices the same way the actual LP server does? I can just test it on there.
[07:03] <spiv> rww: I don't think so
[07:04] <spiv> rww: mwhudson (if he's around) would know more than I do, though
[07:04]  * mwhudson raises an eyebrow
[07:04] <mwhudson> spiv, rww: what's the question?
[07:04] <mwhudson> (staging certainly doesn't send email though, that's an easy question)
[07:05] <rww> mwhudson: If I register a bzr branch for my team, will everyone on the team get emails related to it, or just people that subscribe to it? i.e., is it opt-in or opt-out?
[07:06] <mwhudson> rww: it's opt in
[07:06] <lifeless> rww: neither
[07:07] <lifeless> rww: team ownership is separate from subscription; you should check teh subscription for the team after registering
[07:07] <lifeless> rww: you'll probably find the team subscribed for *merge* reviews and metadata changes but not new revisions.
[07:07] <mwhudson> though i suspect that lifeless is about to give a more correct answer
[07:08] <lifeless> rww: if you want an opt-in approach, you should then change the team to have a subscription set to 'no email', and anyone that wants more can subscribe personally.
[07:08] <rww> lifeless: registering the branch and changing the subscription themselves won't send any email?
[07:08] <lifeless> rww: if you want an opt-out approach, leave it as the default (or tweak to your satisfaction for whatever default you want)
[07:09] <lifeless> rww: I'm not sure whether it will or won't
[07:10] <rww> alright. I'll do a test run on the actual LP site first with a couple of people, and see if any of them get email
[07:29] <damian> I'm trying to enable referer header on firefox so I can join a group on launchpad, but the preference get set back
[07:30] <lifeless> damian: its probably an extension you've installed doing it then
[07:31] <damian> which one seems more likely: Illimitux (supposed to be able to ignore limitations on megavideo) or Media Stealer (flv downloader)
[07:34] <damian> it worked, thanks, now I just have to figure out which one was causing the problem
[07:40] <napster> Can I ask a few questions about GPG keys?
[07:40] <napster> Sorry openPGP keys ;)
[07:44] <persia> napster: You can ask.  Some simple quetions (especially about how they work with LP) can be answered.  Others may not be, in which case you may want to check a more targeted channel.
[07:45] <damian> I think it's helpful to just ask your questions and hope for a reply instead of asking if you ask (I hate that)
[07:45] <damian> if you *can* ask
[07:45] <persia> The bot even has a factoid about that.
[07:45] <persia> !ask
[07:46] <napster> persia, Ok, the problem is I've to do a fresh installation on my system. How can I back up my lauchpad account datas like openPGP keys, branchs etc? damian Sorry for the trouble
[07:46] <persia> Oh, that's easy.  Just put your .ssh and .gnupg directories in a safe place *before* you erase stuff.
[07:46] <persia> You may want your .bazaar as well.
[07:47] <napster> persia, ok, what about the branch directories?
[07:47] <napster> I've two bzr inited dirs in the home folder
[07:48] <persia> I'd recommend just pushing them somewhere, and pulling them later.  Otherwise, standard backup works.
[07:48] <napster> persia, Already pushed to lp
[07:48] <napster> is that ok?
[07:49] <persia> If the branches are pushed to LP, the copies on the disk are just copies, and no longer special.  My personal practice is to rm -rf the entire managed directory after each push (although I suspect this isn't best practice for most bzr usecases)
[07:50] <napster> persia, Ok, then how can I restore all the things back afterall?
[07:51] <persia> Copy back any backed-up directories.  bzr pull any bzr trees you didn't bother backing up.
[07:51] <napster> persia, okey, thanks a lot mate, nice talking to you, see you after installation :-)
[08:47] <napster> persia, I'm back with some problems : 'bzr lp:pull panther' returns permission denied public keys error :-( what to do?
[08:50] <persia> napster: You copied back your .ssh directory?
[08:50] <napster> persia, Yes
[08:50] <persia> OK.  How about your .bazaar directory?
[08:50] <napster> persia, I've restored both of them
[08:51] <persia> Then I'm stumped.  Sorry.
[08:54] <napster> persia, Do I need to do 'bzr init' in the dir first?
[08:54] <persia> Oh, misread.  Sorry.  Try `bzr pull lp:panther`
[08:55] <napster> persia, Actually thats what I meant, sorry for typing misktakes...
[08:55] <napster> persia, Cool, things ok,, my mistake my mistake... :(
[08:56] <persia> No worries.  I read it wrong the first time too :)
[11:22] <Daviey> Why would a bug comment posted after another one (chronologically), appear first?
[11:23] <wgrant> Daviey: eg?
[11:23] <Daviey> wgrant: bug #566497
[11:25] <Daviey> it's only 2 mins.. but just seems odd!
[11:26] <ara> question, if I want to file a bug against the "Contact this team's members" feature, which module should I file it?
[11:27] <jpds> ara: launchpad-registry.
[11:27] <ara> jpds, thanks!
[11:28] <\u03b5> Daviey, either it has been fixed or the "xx minutes _ago_"  confused you
[11:30] <Daviey> \u03b5: I'm a plum. :) Been a long week already :)
[11:30] <\u03b5> morning strikes again :-D
[11:30] <Daviey> heh
[13:42] <gnomefreak> is there a way to remove the location section on my home page? for some reason it keeps showing the map after i choose to hide the map. not every time but alot of the time it loads
[13:52] <RoboTux> Hi all
[13:53] <RoboTux> Is there someone who can help me with a deadlocked registration process with launchpad ?
[13:54] <salgado> RoboTux, sure, what's up?
[13:55] <RoboTux> I tried creating an account on launchpad but the mail say I've probably forgotten my password
[13:55] <RoboTux> So I tried resetting the password and then it says that launchpad can't reset the password of a deactivated account
[13:55] <RoboTux> So I feel deadlocked :)
[13:56] <RoboTux> Should I give you my email in PM ?
[13:57] <salgado> RoboTux, sure.  where did you get the message that you can't reset the password of a deactivated account?
[13:59] <RoboTux> On launchpad itself
[13:59] <RoboTux> I got a link after I asked to reset my password
[13:59] <RoboTux> as if all was normal
[14:00] <RoboTux> But when I clicked on the link it tells me it can't reset the password of a deactivated account
[14:00] <RoboTux> If you want I can do the procedure again so I can give you the link
[14:01] <salgado> RoboTux, yeah, I'd appreciate if you could do that
[14:02] <RoboTux> Sure
[14:03] <RoboTux> Oh shit
[14:03] <RoboTux> I made it 3-4 times yesterday
[14:04] <RoboTux> and today it seems to work
[14:04] <RoboTux> Was there some maintenance yesterday ?
[14:04] <RoboTux> No wait
[14:04] <RoboTux> The bug is still there
[14:04] <RoboTux> I just forgot one step
[14:05] <RoboTux> After clicking on the link to reset the password it ask me for a new one
[14:05] <RoboTux> Once I enter a valid one, I arrive here: https://login.launchpad.net/+deactivated
[14:08] <salgado> RoboTux, ok, that looks like a bug on the Launchpad Login Service.  I'll forward it to the appropriate people
[14:08] <RoboTux> Thanks
[14:09] <RoboTux> Is it related to my account or it happens to everyone ?
[14:09] <salgado> probably happens to everyone who has a deactivated account
[14:09] <salgado> RoboTux, do you remember deactivating your LP account?
[14:10] <RoboTux> I don't even remember activating it
[14:10] <RoboTux> Is there an automatic account creation for maintainers of Debian Package ?
[14:12] <salgado> there is, yes
[14:12] <RoboTux> Then it must be that
[14:13] <RoboTux> Because I'm pretty sure I never create anything on launchpad until yesterday
[14:14] <salgado> yeah, but in that case it should allow you to reset your password
[14:15] <salgado> RoboTux, there's an open bug about that, btw: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/canonical-identity-provider/+bug/556878
[14:15] <salgado> I'll see if I can find a way to workaround it
[14:16] <RoboTux> Thanks :)
[14:16] <RoboTux> I suppose in the mean time I can create another account if I need to use launchpad
[14:16] <salgado> RoboTux, can you tell me your email address?  I'll ask someone to change the status of your account so that you can login
[14:18] <RoboTux> Yep sure, robotux@celest.fr
[14:18] <salgado> s/login/reset the password
[14:18] <RoboTux> That's perfect, thank you
[17:07] <leogg> hello
[17:09] <leogg> someone from the LP team that can help me with a bug report? :)
[17:42] <elopio> Hello people @ #launchpad.
[17:43] <elopio> I need to get the ownership of the Costa Rica LoCo team but I can't contact the current owner. Do you know whon should I talk to?
[17:43] <elopio> *whom
[17:44] <tsimpson> did you contact the LoCo Council?
[17:46] <elopio> man, this is hard. I contacted them a while ago. I'll send an email to the council.
[17:46] <elopio> thanks tsimpson.
[17:49] <tsimpson> elopio: add an item to the agenda of the next loco council meeting (tomorrow)
[17:49] <tsimpson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda <
[17:49] <tsimpson> just make sure you're there for the meeting
[18:01] <elopio> tsimpson, it says: please don't add items to the list on the day before a meeting.
[18:02] <elopio> I'll write to the council and ask.
[18:02] <tsimpson> attend the meeting anyway and ask them to check up on it
[20:15] <Tohsh> I'm getting a 404 on one of my older PPA's that isn't updated for karmic, and I can't figure out how to get ppa-purge to remove the source. I keep getting a Warning that ppa-purge can't find the package list for sed PPA. Is there another way to remove it?
[21:02] <andreserl> hi all, has something changed in PPA's, because i'm unable to upload a package without the orig.tar.gz, and IIRC, it used to be possible
[21:07] <maxb> andreserl: It works if it can find the .orig.tar.gz in the PPA you are uploading to or in Ubuntu
[21:10] <andreserl> maxb, ok thanks. found the problem :)
[21:55] <barry> i am having a helluva time trying to get a ppa uploaded.  i'm sure there's something fundamental i don't understand.  the problem is that the ppa is always getting rejected because dput is not uploading the orig.tar.gz and lp can't find it.  is anybody availble to help?
[21:56] <micahg> barry: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage#versioning
[21:59] <barry> micahg: thanks, tho i've read that page and tried many different combinations of version numbers, to no success.  e.g.
[21:59] <barry> python-virtualenv (1.4.5-1ubuntu1ppa1) lucid; urgency=low
[22:00] <andreserl> barry, im guessing that you did debuild -S -sa correct?
[22:01] <barry> andreserl: well, i've been trying udd and so i did 'bzr bd -S' which has worked for me in the past
[22:01] <barry> andreserl: and when i do 'debuild -S -sa' i get:
[22:01] <barry> dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source
[22:01] <barry>  
[22:02] <micahg> what's this about an armel PPA?
[22:03] <micahg> barry: #ubuntu-packaging might be a better place to ask
[22:03] <barry> micahg: cool, thanks i will try there
[22:03] <andreserl> barry, yeah I came accross with the same problem today. I cleaned up the build folder (removed build-area) and the sources. And then did bzr-buildpackage -S -- -sa
[22:04] <andreserl> barry, and let's move it to #ubuntu-motu
[22:04] <barry> andreserl: oh, let me try that.  -motu or -packaging?
[22:04] <andreserl> barry, -motu
[22:04] <barry> andreserl: thanks
[22:04] <micahg> andreserl: #ubuntu-packaging is more appropriate unless this is specifically for a fix for archive
[22:05] <barry> andreserl: well well well, that fixed it for me too!
[22:06] <barry> how weird.  why do you think that fixed it?
[22:06] <andreserl> micahg, in -motu is were we usually deal with packaging related stuff
[22:06] <micahg> andreserl: yes, but a new channel was created since people were asking about non-archive packaging
[22:07] <barry> i do want to be a motu some day :)
[22:07]  * micahg too 
[22:07] <andreserl> micahg, yeha but most of the MOTU's/Core Dev's that could help are in -packaging :)
[22:07] <andreserl> im a MOTU xD
[22:07] <andreserl> anyways, -motu would be the best channel
[22:07] <micahg> andreserl: there are quite a few in -packaging now too
[22:09] <barry> i think i get the basics of packaging, but there must have been something weird going on that cleaning up the build-area fixed
[22:12] <persia> micahg: andersk
[22:12] <micahg> persia: ?
[22:12] <persia> micahg: andreserl: Just for clarification: -motu is for MOTU stuff (including packaging).  -packaging is for packaging stuff (including for the Ubuntu archive).  FOr PPA stuff, -motu definitely isn't best.
[22:13] <persia> micahg: carriage-return-too-soon failure
[22:14] <micahg> persia: I was trying to convey that, maybe I wasn't clear enough
[22:15] <persia> I saw.  Just offering you support :)
[22:15] <micahg> persia: thank you , I was about to ping you to explain anyways :)
[23:22] <cjwatson> did something wonky just happen to edge?  all page styling has suddenly vanished for me
[23:23] <beuno> launchpad 4.0 design!
[23:23] <beuno> cjwatson, or, edge is being updated and something's wonky
[23:23] <beuno> the proper people are aware and trying to fix it
[23:23] <micahg> is the armel PPA on purpose and for everyone or by request only?
[23:24] <cjwatson> beuno: thanks
[23:25] <barry> cjwatson: wfm
[23:25] <micahg> barry: I'm having the issue also
[23:25] <beuno> barry, you're crazy. Are you on edge?
[23:26]  * barry hits shift-R
[23:26] <barry> beuno: ah, now i can see what happens to the style when you leave lp. :(
[23:26] <barry> time for dinner i guess :)
[23:27] <thumper> barry: hi
[23:27] <mwhudson> beuno: 4.04 surely
[23:30] <barry> thumper: hi
[23:30] <thumper> barry: have you officially moved?
[23:30] <barry> thumper: shhhhh :)
[23:38] <bryceh> cjwatson, yeah seeing same here, just started within the last hour or so