[06:49] <m0ar> I've got a quick bugreport, I'm in a real hurry
[06:49] <micahg> m0ar: please file it on launch[pad
[06:49] <m0ar> My rhythmbox install locks up when I try to start it, you simply can't view the program by clicking on the icon in the panel, sometimes it doesn't even appear. This is the terminal output
[06:49] <m0ar> micahg: Will do, later today.
[06:50] <micahg> m0ar: k, if you have problems feel free to come back
[06:50] <micahg> *problems filing
[06:50] <m0ar> micahg: Yeah, it's currently the only way to sync with my Zen X-Fi, what a shame for an os this good :c
[06:52] <m0ar> This is the rhythmbox -d; http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/418427/
[06:53] <m0ar> I would suspect that after the latest update it can't figure out what to do with my Zen, since that worked fine before the update. Also; there is lots of USB-related output.
[06:53] <micahg> m0ar: idk about rhythmbox, please attach that to the bug you file, we have triagers that are watching the pacakge
[06:54] <m0ar> micahg: I'll have to leave now, I know how to file a bug report so I'll fix that tonight
[06:56] <m0ar> I'm a triager btw :D
[06:57] <micahg> m0ar: k
[07:03] <m0ar> Yeah, when I plug my player out rhythmbox works
[08:54] <BUGabundo_remote> m0rn|ng
[09:55] <Damascene> recording desktop won't be able to show on youtube  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/305286
[09:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 305286 in ffmpeg (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "fails to playback ogv produced by recordmydesktop (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 40)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[12:38] <Laibsch> ping ogasawara, bdmurray re membership in ubuntu-bugcontrol
[12:40] <nigelb> Laibsch, brian's not going to be around until much later.
[13:38] <TheNewAndy> does anyone have any hints on running nautilus in gdb? when I run it, it notices that there is already a nautilus instance running
[13:38] <TheNewAndy> and transfers control to the existing process.
[13:39] <TheNewAndy> I can attach to the existing process, but I'd like to be able to poke around a bit with the source to try and fix the actual problem.
[14:07] <om26er> it turns out that the bug expiration system in LP is about to kick start
[14:09] <vish> om26er: hmm? the bugs will now auto close?
[14:10] <om26er> vish, yes I beleive
[14:11] <vish> om26er: any where you have read this or are you noticing lpbot activity?
[14:11] <om26er> vish, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/333521
[14:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 333521 in malone "Enable bugs expiration for Ubuntu (affects: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Fix committed]
[14:11] <vish> om26er: ha ty
[14:30] <TheNewAndy> would someone with launchpad powers be able to reopen #560706 ?
[14:30] <TheNewAndy> It was marked as a duplicate incorrectly.
[14:30] <TheNewAndy> I just added a patch to it, which I think should probably get into lucid
[14:31] <TheNewAndy> (it is somewhat trivial to reproduce, and crashes nautilus)
[14:32] <hggdh> TheNewAndy: you should be able to open it yourself -- just click on "Mark as Duplicate", and clear out the field. Also, please add a comment on *why* you did it
[14:32] <om26er> bug 560706
[14:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 560706 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID() (dup-of: 407547)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560706
[14:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 407547 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "nautilus crashes while changing view modes (affects: 6) (dups: 1) (heat: 42)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407547
[14:34] <hernejj> If someone has a minute... I just marked bug 542506 as invalid. Since it is being tracked for Lucid I'd like confirmation that it was the correct action.
[14:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 542506 in gxine (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "gxine fails to start: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 46)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542506
[14:34] <hernejj> Applogies.. wrong bug number. Mine is bug 546485
[14:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 546485 in gtk2-engines-murrine (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "font rendering regression (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546485
[14:34] <TheNewAndy> hggdh: are you sure I have permissions? I can't see the link you are referring to
[14:35] <TheNewAndy> wait... no, I worked it out. thanks :)
[14:36] <hggdh> TheNewAndy: welcome. I was wrong on the link, anyways ;-)
[15:44] <hoctopus> System->Administration->Network Tools   closes when clicking on the Ping Tab
[15:45] <pedro_> hoctopus, known issue, bug 549281
[15:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 549281 in gtk2-engines-murrine (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Crash if gtk_paint_layout is called with widget==NULL (affects: 45) (dups: 29) (heat: 432)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/549281
[15:47] <seb128> pedro_, urg, when you get a bug fixed upstream with that number of duplicates please assign it to the canonical desktop team on launchpad
[15:47] <seb128> pedro_, looking at it
[15:58] <ogasawara> Laibsch: sorry for the delay, I've updated your ubuntu-bugcontrol membership
[16:01] <Laibsch> great, thanks
[16:17] <bdmurray> ogasawara: thanks you early bird
[19:07] <deuxpi> Hello! Bug #549281 is nominated for Lucid with importance Medium, should I do something to push its development further now?
[19:08] <ubot4> deuxpi: Bug 549281 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/549281 is private
[19:08] <deuxpi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk2-engines-murrine/+bug/549281
[19:09] <deuxpi> not private (bug in ubot4?)
[19:11] <charlie-tca> the bot makes mistakes
[19:11] <deuxpi> oh well :)
[19:12] <charlie-tca> That bug has a fix committed already. It should be fixed within a day or so
[19:12] <deuxpi> if someone (seb128?) brings the upstream fix in a new package
[19:16] <deuxpi> yes
[19:16]  * deuxpi is reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RCBugTargetting
[19:57] <seb128> deuxpi, I've uploaded a fix for this one, it's waiting in the unapproved queue due to the freeze for rc now
[20:28] <atrus> any thoughts on 532309? marked 'fix commited' back in march, but people are still affected, and the person who marked it 'fix released' hasn't responded to questions about how it was supposedly fixed...
[20:28] <atrus> bug 532309
[20:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 532309 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Light-themes: panel-background isn't scaling (affects: 26) (dups: 4) (heat: 166)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532309
[20:28] <atrus> my gut says to just set it back to confirmed?
[20:58] <RunePhilosof>  bdmurray could you commit my patch in bug 504956 if you approve
[20:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 504956 in launchpad-gm-scripts "partially hidden comment in bug report (affects: 6) (dups: 2) (heat: 54)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504956
[20:59] <RunePhilosof> oops
[20:59] <RunePhilosof> hadn't updated in a while
[20:59] <bdmurray> RunePhilosof: No worries.  Thanks for the patch!
[21:03] <avuko> Can anybody point me to what package a bug in the "places" menu item belongs to? nautilus, panel, or something else (Ubuntu lucid (development branch)) , beta 2 + updates
[21:09] <avuko> I'm going for nautilus, as its also in "computer" etc. Have a nice one!
[21:47] <elleuca> hi, an urgent bug for lucid https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/566909
[21:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 566909 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Offline contacts not showed by default (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[21:48] <ddecator> er, how is that urgent if i may ask?
[21:50] <yofel> that would be 'Low' at best
[21:50] <elleuca> show offline contacs was a choise of UX team for 10.04
[21:50] <yofel> might be, but it's a usability bug and there's an easy workaround -> Low
[21:51] <elleuca> empathy was changed upstream just to follow this after the GNOME ui freeze
[21:51] <mrand> elleuca: ubuntu will just have to catch up for the next release.
[21:51] <mrand> s/for/on/
[21:52] <elleuca> mrand, I suspect the issue come from some change applied by ubuntu patches
[21:52] <MilkmanDan> Is there a doc anywhere that disscusses how to jump in and help with the release bug testing?
[21:53] <elleuca> however I suspect it should be a "regression" between beta1 and beta2
[21:53] <ddecator> did i work during beta 1? i never noticed it (but i don't use empathy very often)
[21:53] <ddecator> s/i/it
[21:54] <elleuca> ddecator, let me start a virtual machine to check, please wait
[21:54] <ddecator> MilkmanDan: just to make sure i'm understanding right, are you interested in testing ubuntu+1? is that what you're asking?
[21:56] <MilkmanDan> ddecator: Yes, the soon-to-be-released version.  I've been running Ubuntu on a low-use laptop for several years now and I'm considering switching to it for my more important workloads.  So I thought I'd give the latest release a try.
[21:56] <MilkmanDan> I've got a machine I can do testing on, as well as VMware (if anyone cares about that sort of thing.)
[21:57] <ddecator> MilkmanDan: depending on what you want to test specifically, you can take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[21:57] <MilkmanDan> ddecator: I thought I'd just generally start using it and see what breaks. :)
[21:58] <MilkmanDan> Although I gather that the open bug list is rapidly dwindling, no?
[21:58] <micahg> MilkmanDan: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[21:58] <ddecator> MilkmanDan: that's what a lot of us do. if you find something that doesn't work, check if it's been reported already. if it hasn't, then feel free to open a new report =)
[21:58] <MilkmanDan> Cool
[21:59] <MilkmanDan> See?  Why can't the CentOS people be this welcoming?
[21:59]  * MilkmanDan coughs politely.
[21:59] <ddecator> heh, we pride ourselves on our community =)
[21:59] <MilkmanDan> Imagine that.
[21:59] <elleuca> ddecator, unfortunately empahty in beta1 live CD seems unable to add a new account :(
[22:00] <ddecator> elleuca: heh, well that doesn't help..
[22:00] <elleuca> ddecator, try ask on #ayatana :)
[22:05] <elleuca> ddecator, all I can do here and now, is to link the upstream bug about the choice to show offline contacts: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=612448
[22:05] <ubot4> Gnome bug 612448 in Contact List "Display offline contacts and sort by status by default" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[22:10] <ddecator> elleuca: and still no luck testing in a virtualized beta 1?
[22:12] <MilkmanDan> So, since I see that http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3991/286 appears empty, do I take that to mean that nobody has done those tests yet and I should give it a try?
[22:12] <MilkmanDan> Or does that mean that it's tested good already?
[22:13] <ddecator> i'm not sure, i'm not familiar with the iso testing workflow..
[22:13] <yofel> MilkmanDan: the testing team is at home in #ubuntu-testing, maybe someone can help you there
[22:14] <mrand> MilkmanDan: I don't think the RC .iso's have been generated yet.
[22:14] <charlie-tca> empty means untested
[22:15] <MilkmanDan> Ah, ok.
[22:15] <charlie-tca> iso's are up, they might change yet
[22:18] <mrand> charlie-tca: yep
[22:19] <elleuca> ddecator, no, empathy seems unable to finalize the "add account" dialog in beta1 :|
[22:20] <ddecator> odd...
[22:21] <micahg> elleuca: a lot
[22:21] <micahg> elleuca: a lot has been updated since beta 1
[22:22] <ddecator> elleuca: i added a comment and confirmed the bug, but it'd be nice to know whether it used to work or not before we mark it triaged
[22:23] <elleuca> I'm trying to contact Guillaume Desmottes on gimpnet
[22:23] <elleuca> as empathy maintainer it should know something about this issue :)
[22:23] <ddecator> i would imagine so
[22:26] <Laibsch> I just pushed what is essentially the current lucid package of  pastebinit to Debian unstable -> bug 566933  Should I do anything besides subscribing u-u-s?
[22:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 566933 in pastebinit (Ubuntu) "please sync pastebinit from Debian unstable (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566933
[22:27] <micahg> Laibsch: u-u-s has been replaced with u-s
[22:27] <Laibsch> OK
[22:27] <Laibsch> thanks
[22:27] <Laibsch> will it be sufficient to subscribe them?
[22:28] <micahg> Laibsch: yeah
[22:29] <Laibsch> good
[22:29] <Laibsch> thanks
[22:29] <micahg> Laibsch: if you see no action in a couple days, ping someone in -motu
[22:29] <ddecator> elleuca: i think the version i have on testdrive is from beta 1, so i'll test it
[22:36] <ddecator> hm, looks like i have alpha 3..
[22:36] <atrus> any thoughts on bug 532309? marked 'fix commited' back in march, but people are still affected, and the person who marked it 'fix released' hasn't responded to questions about how it was supposedly fixed. my gut says to just set it back to confirmed...
[22:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 532309 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Light-themes: panel-background isn't scaling (affects: 26) (dups: 4) (heat: 172)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532309
[22:40] <ddecator> generally it's better to open a new report than switch an old one from fix released to something else
[22:40] <mrand> atrus: I don't see it was ever marked as fix released.
[22:40] <ddecator> it might have been fixed but broken again at some point
[22:40] <atrus> er, 'fix commited' rather
[22:41] <ddecator> ah, i see, i just looked at it
[22:42] <ddecator> it might be that a fix was proposed but hasn't been implemented
[22:43] <ddecator> if the fix hasn't been released, then the bug is expected to remain, so please don't change it
[22:43] <atrus> i just don't see any mention of a fix that ever worked for anyone
[22:44] <ddecator> it might be a patch that got sent straight to the maintainers
[22:44] <Laibsch> ddecator: no matter what, that should have then been documented/mentioned in the bug
[22:44] <Laibsch> if I were atrus, I'd reset the ticket to confirmed
[22:45] <Laibsch> aren't bugs generally closed with something like "feel free to reopen..."
[22:46] <Laibsch> I think that applies even more in this case (not having looked at the actual ticket, though)
[22:46] <ddecator> the fix might be what was mentioned in comment #13
[22:47] <atrus> so, what is fix-committed supposed to mean?
[22:47] <ddecator> that a fix was proposed and needs to be reviewed by the maintainers
[22:47] <Laibsch> fix is out there somewhere, but not in the official repos
[22:48] <Laibsch> quite often it means
[22:48] <Laibsch> fix committed: fixed upstream
[22:48] <Laibsch> fix released: fix in Debian itself
[22:48] <Laibsch> hehe
[22:48] <Laibsch> Ubuntu
[22:49] <ddecator> right, fix released is when the fix has actual been released in an official package either in ubuntu or debian
[22:49] <atrus> ddecator: that documented anywhere? this goes against my instincts as to how strong the phrase "fix committed" is
[22:49] <mrand> atrus: have you tried emailing Kenneth Wimer?
[22:50] <ddecator> atrus: it's on the wiki, one sec
[22:50] <ddecator> atrus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[22:51] <atrus> ddecator: okay, that would suggest that 'fix committed' is inappropriate for htis one.
[22:52] <atrus> "the changes are pending and to be uploaded soon" for ubuntu tasks, and there's not even a patch available. even a patch being available wouldn't qualify for fix committed.
[22:52] <elleuca> ddecator, I've subscribed Ivanka Majic to empathy bug, as UX team leader maybe she knows what to do :)
[22:52] <ddecator> atrus: the changes may be pending, it just might not be linked to the report
[22:56] <ddecator> atrus: if you're unsure whether a fix was really proposed, then you may want to leave a comment, but changing the status away from "fix committed" should only be done if you know for sure a fix wasn't committed. since kwwii seems to work a lot with themes, i doubt he would change the status without reason
[22:57] <atrus> ddecator: okay, well i changed it because it's been over a month with no activity suggesting a fix exists anywhere, and i feel okay about that :) but i did subscribe him on the bug, and emailed him separately, so if a fix does exist, it should get flipped back soon anyways.