[00:56] <txwikinger> what is #ubuntu-ops-monitor?
[00:58] <tsimpson> txwikinger: it a monitor channel for the FloodBots
[00:59] <tsimpson> there is not for #kubuntu too
[00:59] <txwikinger> ah ok
[01:03] <tsimpson> "not" there means "one", go figure
[01:03] <persia> Common thinko, really.
[01:34] <IdleOne> Evening
[01:40] <maco> persia: ping?
[01:40] <maco> Brimstones in #ubuntu... for some reason was talking about drugs and i told him to stay on topic and im wondering if theres enough off topicness thatthe next OT comment gets a kick
[01:41] <Flannel> maco: If you don't, I will.
[01:41] <maco> ok then
[01:42] <persia> maco: I'm not the best person to ask: I rarely even idle in #ubuntu, but I believe that failure-to-comply-with-op-guidance is usually grounds for kick.
[01:44] <Flannel> Hmm, Brimstone isn't Barnabas.
[01:45] <maco> no its two different B-people
[01:45] <Flannel> Mhmm, I yelled at the one after the away comments from the other.
[01:45] <maco> mis-tab?
[01:46] <Flannel> Nah, just didn't notice there were two B names that look the same
[01:46] <Flannel> Barnabas hadn't said anything in a while, so he wasn't even on my radar
[02:16]  * elky reads the reddragon exchange.
[02:16] <elky> But, you know, /here/ is the uber hostile channel, right?
[02:35] <maco> and this is why i said i shouldnt be a -ot op. havent the patience the current ops do
[02:37] <nhandler> -OT really is different than other channels
[02:43] <IdleOne> last night was interesting with the drunken Brit
[02:44] <IdleOne> seems that is a Sat night thing for him
[02:44] <maco> drunken brit? sounds like some portion of UDS...
[02:44] <IdleOne> maco Paddy somesuch
[02:45] <IdleOne> I believe he is from UK
[02:48] <nhandler> Ah, good old Paddy
[03:17] <maco> ahhh
[03:17] <maco> uk actually, not britain
[03:17] <maco> (northern ireland)
[03:18] <IdleOne> ohh
[03:20]  * txwikinger is wondering about those drive-by questioners
[03:20] <txwikinger> asking a question and leave within a minute :D
[03:22] <IdleOne> txwikinger: they have no patience
[03:22] <IdleOne> I blame click and go OS'es
[03:22] <txwikinger> IdleOne: hehe.. or ADHD
[03:23] <IdleOne> that too
[03:24] <IdleOne> I remember compiling eggdrop years ago and being told to go get a pizza :)
[03:25]  * txwikinger wrote his first bios by burning each single byte per hand
[03:26] <txwikinger> ..unto an eprom
[04:05] <IdleOne> bodi aka hiexpo. I banned you yesterday because I asked you to stay on topic, then a second time because you were ban evading
[04:05] <IdleOne> now you are ban evading again
[04:06] <IdleOne> I should ban you again
[04:06] <IdleOne> So what should I do now?
[04:06] <bodi> IdleOne, i was on topic though i was tring to help that girl get a wifi card that would work for her
[04:07] <IdleOne> bodi: she had no intention of spending more money and I understand that you were trying to help but it would of been better to take it private or to #hardware
[04:07] <bodi> but i atmit i was wrong for blowing up
[04:08] <bodi> ok i will do that from now on was not tring to cause any havok
[04:08] <IdleOne> Now I am stuck with having to decide if I should ban you again but I doubt it will make a difference because you will just eveda again
[04:08] <IdleOne> so I am asking you nicely to please follow the rules of ubuntu irc channels
[04:08] <bodi> ok i will
[04:08] <IdleOne> you know them, you have seen us post links to them often enough
[04:09] <IdleOne> ok
[04:09] <IdleOne> I will remove the ban
[04:09] <bodi> i know i just blew up and should not have andenforcethe rules my self u know that
[04:09] <IdleOne> I do, that is why I am lifting the ban
[04:10] <bodi> ok thanks
[04:10] <IdleOne> thank you
[04:10] <bodi>  yep and sorry
[04:10] <IdleOne> no worries
[04:10] <IdleOne> :) ban is lifted
[04:10] <IdleOne> use you nick
[04:11] <bodi> ok gonna log in right now
[04:11] <IdleOne> now get out of here before I kick you again :P
[04:11] <bodi> lol
[04:14] <h00k> greetings
[04:14] <IdleOne> greetings h00k
[05:09] <Flannel> techhelper1: What is your bot doing?
[05:09] <techhelper1> relay
[05:09] <techhelper1> that is all
[05:09] <Flannel> techhelper1: What does that mean?
[05:09] <techhelper1> Relay from here to another network
[05:09] <Flannel> techhelper1: Which other network?
[05:09] <techhelper1> but i am working on it to be a 1 way
[05:09] <Flannel> and for what purpose?
[05:09] <techhelper1> not recieve back to here
[05:09] <techhelper1> GeekShed
[05:10] <techhelper1> Bridge the ubuntu community across multiple networks
[05:10] <techhelper1> just need to work the kinks out like the topic and stuff
[05:10] <Flannel> techhelper1: Im not sure how one-way communication counts as a bridge.
[05:10] <techhelper1> well you saw how it works
[05:10] <Flannel> techhelper1: and I'm not comfortable with that sort of bot, even if it is one way, being present
[05:11] <techhelper1> if i can disable that topic thing and other msg'ing features
[05:12] <Flannel> This is the official Ubuntu community, the members on the other IRC network are welcome to come here, and encouraged.
[05:12] <Flannel> One large community is a lot stronger than many fragmented ones, a lot more support is possible, and of higher quality
[05:12] <techhelper1> i am confused in the 1st place
[05:12] <techhelper1> you aren't even op in the channel
[05:13] <Flannel> techhelper1: Yes, I am.
[05:13] <techhelper1> now you are
[05:13] <techhelper1> o.o
[05:13] <techhelper1> well i guess the relay is a no
[05:15] <techhelper1> i just fixed it so it is 1 way
[05:15] <techhelper1> you don't see from geekshed
[05:15] <Flannel> techhelper1: Again, I'm not comfortable with even a one-way bot like that.
[05:15] <techhelper1> why don't you extend your stuff across multiple networks
[05:15] <Flannel> techhelper1: I strongly encourage the Ubuntu community over there to come stop by the official channels and such here.
[05:16] <techhelper1> then they would have to get use to freenode
[05:16] <techhelper1> which is a bigger network to the novice users that where i am
[05:16] <Flannel> That's correct.  Freenode is the network the official Ubuntu channels are on
[05:17] <Flannel> techhelper1: If you're just in the Ubuntu channels, its not important how large the rest of the network is.
[05:18] <techhelper1> i am suprised that you don't have your own network
[05:19] <techhelper1> for all of this
[05:19] <techhelper1> since this is large
[05:20] <Flannel> Hmm, I guess that's him purposefully leaving.
[05:20] <persia> Is the bot policy documented anywhere?
[05:20] <Flannel> IRC guidelines
[05:21] <Flannel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[05:21] <persia> Hrm.
[06:27] <ikonia> it is also documented on the bots page
[06:27] <ikonia> no unofficial bots
[06:59] <elky> persia, it's also Freenode policy to ask channel ops before joining your bots to them, so. i'm not sure how many layers we need for common courtesy
[07:39] <persia> I certainly don't mean to dispute the bots policy.  It just makes me more careful about the bot that is part of the corporate clients that back this nick.
[07:49] <tsimpson> as long as a bot is silent, we generally have no issues
[07:49] <tsimpson> *and doesn't produce public logs, a-la irseek
[07:52] <persia> Yeah.  I don't send automated messages except in /queries, and under special circumstances, and only excerpt logs are public (and only in a transient manner, due to being sent over unencrypted SMTP under special circumstances).  But still, best I'm careful :)
[07:55] <elky> tsimpson, its not so much that we "have no issues", but rather we'd have to actively hunt them out and it's not worth it.
[07:56] <elky> because one of our rules is that you abide by the freenode rules, and the freenode rules say to ask before joining the bot.
[07:56] <tsimpson> yep
[08:22] <dholbach> good morning
[11:40]  * jussi pipes up with a "happy birthday" for wgrant :)
[11:44] <jussi> oh wait... its on wednesday...
[11:44] <jussi> anyway...
[11:44] <jussi> stupid facebook.
[11:45] <Gary> haha
[11:52] <wgrant> Heh, yes, Facebook is good at being confusing.
[11:52] <wgrant> Thanks :)
 can someone give me the link to the irc council meeting agenda please
[14:05] <ikonia> give it him
[14:05] <bazhang> dont have it.
[14:05] <ikonia> ahh Pici is already there
[14:06] <Pici> I give it him
[14:06] <bazhang> thanks
[14:06] <Pici> ;)
[14:35] <h00k> bazhang: you beat me
[15:13] <h00k> So, if we do have an #ubuntu-release-party channel, when would that open, also who op's that?
[15:14] <elky> 72-48hrs before the release
[15:14] <Pici> Its on the next ircc agenda.
[15:15] <h00k> alright, cool,
[15:15] <Pici> Rather, its on the agenda to discuss who will be the ops there, we gave it out to all ubuntu members last time, and it was a mess.
[15:15] <h00k> ah, alright
[15:17] <Pici> eh, close enough.
[15:28] <Pici> wow.  I don't think I've seen such a blantant homework question before.
[15:30] <genii> Yeah it's depressing how lazy some people can be.
[15:31] <h00k> What was the question?
[15:31] <Pici> h00k: Just this: http://img208.imageshack.us/i/ques3.png/
[15:38] <h00k> ahha.
[15:53] <txwikinger> the question is incomplete
[15:57] <genii> It doesn't tell you the nature of the networking problem for instance
[15:57] <Pici> The default gateway is incorrectly set.
[15:57] <Pici> most likely anyway.
[15:58]  * genii ponders x.x.x.0 as a destination
[16:01] <h00k> it could be a trick question, maybe the computer is a laptop and they're trying to access the internets with the power out.
[16:01] <h00k> therefore the gateway will be down, the laptop is running on battery
[16:03] <gord> are you guys actually trying to do that guys homework? ;)
[16:05]  * txwikinger only comments, does not do any homework
[16:33] <jussi> oh yay, an ANZAC day meeting
[19:09] <genii> And so it begins.
[19:09] <charlie-tca> heh
[19:09]  * charlie-tca hands genii more coffee
[19:09] <genii> charlie-tca: Thanks, needed one!
[19:09]  * genii hands out Ubuntu cupcakes
[19:09]  * charlie-tca thanks genii
[19:10] <genii> :)
[19:11] <jussi> !outyet
[19:12] <jpds> No, you probably won't get more info than that.
[19:12] <jussi> jpds: yes you will. soon we will add info about  -release-party
[19:12] <jpds> ...
[19:14] <ikonia> may I suggest brining my council agenda item forward then as the current meeting is just 4 days before release
[19:38] <mneptok> @login
[19:39] <mneptok> ubottu: alot is <reply>Do you like to hug alot? - http://bit.ly/aVDMTo
[19:39]  * mneptok pats the Pythonpile
[19:41] <ikonia> do we really need that factoid ?
[20:00] <gord> people saying alot annoys me, mainly because it looks like they misspelled my last name
[20:00] <Pici> That would be annoying.
[20:01] <gord> but it takes me about 0.5 seconds to forget about it so I guess I don't care
[20:02] <gord> alot
[20:15] <Pici> Hrm... now that I've thought about it for a few minutes, we probably should be telling people to wait for medibuntu to come back up.
[20:16] <Pici> The bug listed on lp says that they have no idea if these mirrors are up to date at all.
[20:17] <gord> oh dear is it still down? i'm guessing the canonical IS team doesn't deal with that server
[20:17] <Pici> Right, its not Canonical's resposibility.
[20:17] <ikonia> I don't see the point in mediabuntu to be honest
[20:18] <gord> ikonia, decss ;)
[20:19] <jpds> Pici: Not My Problem™.
[20:19] <Pici> jpds: I know
[20:20] <Pici> bug #565810
[20:23] <gord> we should just install a small bittorrent client on all machines that want decss, then transfer that decss file around that way. sure it sounds like overkill but its just as silly
[20:51] <h00k> gord: similarly (to your previous comment about 'alot'), I don't like when people say 'hook' instead of h00k
[20:52] <gord> hook: okay!
[20:56] <mneptok> DeCSS is a shell script away on Ubuntu
[20:57] <Pici> That shell script downloads from medibuntu.
[20:58] <h00k> gord: see, I didn't see that. and I refuse to put it on hilight :(
[21:00] <mneptok> gord: you fell for that h00k, line and sinker
[21:01] <h00k> :/
[21:42] <gord> is anyone else secretly hoping a troll called peter_pan shows up and h00k has to remove them?
[21:42] <h00k> oh man, that would be epic.
[21:42] <charlie-tca> heh
[21:42] <knome> 7nick peter_pan
[21:42] <knome> oops