| nigelb | I'll be talking to dholbach later today to make a list of things-to-do before Patch Day. | 01:23 |
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| nigelb | persia, due to the overwhelming lack of participation for review leads, I guess we'll both have to fill up the remaining hours :/ | 01:45 |
| persia | Fine by me :) | 01:45 |
| nigelb | I'll make a last ditch recruitment effort on the last week of the month | 01:45 |
| nigelb | if that doesn't work, bunk work, and live in front of the computer for 49 hours | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | nigelb: that sounds like a fun option, be sure to have plenty of caffeine on hand | 01:58 |
| nigelb | ajmitch, that was just an exaggeration. I'll probably do only 8 hours at a time | 01:59 |
| ajmitch | 8 hours on, sleep for 1 hour, back to the computer? | 02:00 |
| nigelb | ajmitch, persia will be around too :) | 02:00 |
| * ajmitch would help out if he knew what he was doing :) | 02:01 | |
| nigelb | oh yaay! | 02:01 |
| nigelb | you need to know https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/GettingInvolved | 02:01 |
| nigelb | you need to know how bug (and patch) upstreaming and ubuntu development (making debdiff, etc) | 02:02 |
| nigelb | If you do, please sign up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay | 02:02 |
| ajmitch | yeah, it's the more recent things like working with bzr branches that I need to read up on | 02:03 |
| ajmitch | it'd be over a thursday/friday for me | 02:04 |
| * ajmitch wonders if someone will make up some greasemonkey scripts for handling these tags | 02:04 | |
| ajmitch | anyway, must go out for lunch, back soon | 02:04 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:22 |
| nigelb | dholbach, in another 1.5 hours? | 12:26 |
| ibuclaw | hey nigelb - what's up? | 12:27 |
| nigelb | heya ibuclaw :) | 12:27 |
| hyperair | 1.5h? what's going on? | 12:28 |
| nigelb | hyperair, call | 12:28 |
| hyperair | nigelb: call? | 12:28 |
| nigelb | hyperair, yeah | 12:29 |
| * hyperair doesn't understand | 12:29 | |
| nigelb | call, skype, talk | 12:29 |
| hyperair | oh that | 12:29 |
| ibuclaw | nigelb, ooh, fun times | 12:30 |
| * ibuclaw is on the pcmanfm changelog yay! | 12:30 | |
| nigelb | ibuclaw, oooh | 12:30 |
| ibuclaw | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/0.5.2+svn20091029-1ubuntu3 | 12:31 |
| ibuclaw | not sure if it is in the main repos yet. | 12:32 |
| nigelb | ibuclaw, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/p/pcmanfm/pcmanfm_0.5.2+svn20091029-1ubuntu3/changelog | 12:33 |
| nigelb | Iain Bucław? | 12:33 |
| ibuclaw | yepo =) | 12:33 |
| ibuclaw | shame that one polish character isn't ascii | 12:34 |
| nigelb | heh | 12:34 |
| ibuclaw | have been using just plain 'Buclaw' for the updates I push for gdc | 12:35 |
| ibuclaw | nigelb, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/g/gdc-4.3/gdc-4.3_1.046-4.3.4-3ubuntu1/changelog | 12:36 |
| nigelb | w00t w00t lots of gdc entries :) | 12:37 |
| ibuclaw | lots of work have been put into it. =) | 12:38 |
| ibuclaw | nigelb, afterall ... I *am* the maintainer of the package. | 12:38 |
| nigelb | 0_0 | 12:38 |
| ibuclaw | nigelb, http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gdc-4.3.html | 12:42 |
| \vish | heya , who's up for making a depdiff of this > http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=136114 | 12:42 |
| \vish | its for a bug in the review list for Bug #111939 | 12:42 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 111939 in metacity "Not possible to alt-tab during a drag-and-drop operation" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111939 | 12:42 |
| nigelb | ibuclaw, wow :) | 12:42 |
| nigelb | \vish, I can make a debdiff (I made once) can test? | 12:42 |
| * nigelb did ask \vish to test some time back too! | 12:43 | |
| \vish | nigelb: test ? how? | 12:43 |
| nigelb | \vish, I'll push it onto a ppa and you have to update your metacity to that one | 12:43 |
| ibuclaw | nigelb, don't ask how it happened ... I just asked nhandler and he suggested that I email doko about it. One thing led to another and he is now sponsoring me (or keeping a watchful eye, I'm not sure which) | 12:43 |
| \vish | ah righto.. | 12:43 |
| nigelb | ibuclaw, its so totally totally cool :) | 12:44 |
| nigelb | \vish, 20 mins tops | 12:44 |
| \vish | bah everything is a bit of a mess in my system , there is a memory swap leak and i'm not able to do things :s | 12:44 |
| \vish | nigelb: neat | 12:44 |
| dholbach | nigelb: yep | 12:49 |
| nigelb | dholbach, :) | 12:50 |
| nhandler | ibuclaw: I'm glad to see that worked out for you | 12:57 |
| nigelb | bdrung, thank you :) | 12:59 |
| nigelb | re: patch day | 12:59 |
| bdrung | you're welcome :) | 12:59 |
| \vish | nigelbabu: hmm , i think bdrung had commented for a debdiff a long time ... we[I] could have done that a long time ago :s | 13:16 |
| \vish | done the testing i mean ;p | 13:16 |
| bdrung | \vish: which bug? | 13:17 |
| \vish | bdmurray: Bug #111939 | 13:17 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 111939 in metacity "Not possible to alt-tab during a drag-and-drop operation" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111939 | 13:17 |
| \vish | oops bdrung ^ | 13:17 |
| \vish | bdrung: seems nigelbabu had the debdiff done a while back and was just waiting for testing | 13:18 |
| bdrung | oh | 13:19 |
| nigelbabu | \vish, I did a debdiff some time back | 13:21 |
| nigelbabu | but the package got updated | 13:21 |
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| nigelbabu | vish, thank you. the \ was getting tough | 13:38 |
| vish | nigelbabu: damn! will change back ;p | 13:39 |
| vish | some problem with nm , keeps dropping my signal :s | 13:39 |
| nigelbabu | its going to rain cats and dogs out here. I hope power doesn't go out | 13:40 |
| nigelbabu | vish, do you have FFE for this? | 13:41 |
| vish | nigelbabu: i dont think we need an FFE for that , probably a stable release update will do | 13:42 |
| nigelbabu | vish, we do, its not a bug fix | 13:42 |
| vish | nigelbabu: i would consider it a bug though.. ;) | 13:43 |
| vish | nigelbabu: anyway , irrespective of when it is getting fixed , we need a debdiff ;) | 13:44 |
| nigelbabu | true. getting | 13:44 |
| nigelbabu | that was a productive talk :) | 14:19 |
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| vish | ^ cjohnston in a timemachine ;p ? | 14:30 |
| cjohnston | lol | 14:30 |
| cjohnston | setting it up so its ready | 14:30 |
| vish | cjohnston: you are at the hotel now getting it ready or.. just setting the nick? | 14:30 |
| cjohnston | just the nick... | 14:31 |
| cjohnston | I'm in ~50 channels on this connection.. so im setting up another irssi for uds | 14:31 |
| cjohnston | make it a little easier | 14:31 |
| cjohnston | im trying to figure out how i set this one up tho to match it.. easier said than done | 14:34 |
| nigelbabu | vish, built on ppa. pleaes test and let me know | 15:24 |
| vish | hmm , let me restart session | 15:38 |
| * vish brb | 15:38 | |
| nigelbabu | vish, works? | 15:40 |
| vish | nigelbabu: oddly no :( did it work for you on karmic? | 15:41 |
| nigelbabu | I didn't test on karmic | 15:41 |
| vish | i still can alt+tab while dragging | 15:41 |
| vish | cant* | 15:41 |
| nigelbabu | strange | 15:41 |
| nigelbabu | sure you have the PPA version installed? | 15:41 |
| vish | nigelbabu: it was only metacity and metacity common right? | 15:42 |
| nigelbabu | yeah | 15:42 |
| vish | hmm , wait there is libmetacity-private0 , installed that one too , let me try a session restart | 15:44 |
| vish | nigelbabu: no go :( | 15:46 |
| nigelbabu | aw :( | 15:46 |
| vish | odd that mclasen mentions it works perfectly in fedora :s | 15:47 |
| nigelbabu | yeah, extremely :) | 15:47 |
| vish | heh , lets blame sabdfl on this one too ;p | 15:47 |
| nigelbabu | lol | 15:47 |
| vish | nigelbabu: check if it works in karmic.. | 15:48 |
| nigelbabu | vish, checking | 15:48 |
| keffie_jayx | hey nigelbabu, just read dholbach post | 15:50 |
| * vish brb | 15:50 | |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, great, so you want to help us reviewing and also translating right? | 15:50 |
| keffie_jayx | I have only done one review but the process is quite simple. Can one help out after the 5th of may ? | 15:50 |
| keffie_jayx | sure | 15:50 |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, you can help out at any point. the 5th may is only a day to get lots of people engaged. | 15:51 |
| nigelbabu | I hope to have everyone review at least one patch per day :) | 15:51 |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, you want to translate immediately or after May 5? | 15:52 |
| keffie_jayx | great. I am getting some of the people in my city going with the little things I know about ubuntu development and patch reviewing has been suggested as a simple starting point | 15:52 |
| keffie_jayx | nigelbabu: I could help now | 15:52 |
| dholbach | keffie_jayx: nigelbabu and I were hoping to factor in some feedback into the page before may 5th, so it might make sense to have a look at the page again closer to the time | 15:52 |
| nigelbabu | that's great. I've been hoping to have patch review be the simple start point | 15:52 |
| dholbach | but I epxect "just additions" like more examples and stuff | 15:53 |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, if you're starting now, just be subscribed to the page, so you can be alerted when we make changes | 15:53 |
| dholbach | this is going to be awesome | 15:53 |
| dholbach | I just know it | 15:53 |
| keffie_jayx | ok | 15:54 |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, thank you for helping. any help at any point, let me know. will be glad to help :) | 15:54 |
| keffie_jayx | let me subscribe to the wiki and also see if I can remember some of the process | 15:54 |
| qense | dholbach: Will Mergimus be discussed during the UDS? I'm attending and I saw you have two blueprints on the patch review initiative. I've offered nigelbabu my help with writing Mergimus and I was wondering what session would be best for me to attend. | 15:54 |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, also, any feedback on the process is very much welcome :) | 15:55 |
| dholbach | qense: Mergimus is no requirement for following the process outlined on the wiki | 15:55 |
| keffie_jayx | nigelbabu: the process intends to be simple, However, Ihave a knack for running into brickwalls ... ain't that right dholbach? | 15:56 |
| dholbach | qense: but we can sure discuss it | 15:56 |
| * dholbach hugs keffie_jayx | 15:56 | |
| keffie_jayx | nigelbabu: will do | 15:56 |
| nigelbabu | Awesome! Thank you. | 15:56 |
| qense | dholbach: OK. I'll see it then. | 15:57 |
| qense | There is already some code, but it doesn't do much yet. :) | 15:57 |
| dholbach | qense: right | 15:57 |
| nigelbabu | vish, ahhh | 15:57 |
| nigelbabu | vish, compiz is our default. Did you change to metacity | 15:57 |
| dholbach | if mergimus can make the task of getting the source, applying the patch correctly, etc etc it can be part of the task | 15:57 |
| dholbach | the thing is that the process requires the web browser too (upstream bug trackers, adding tags to LP, etc.) | 15:58 |
| dholbach | so I dunno yet | 15:58 |
| dholbach | but sounds like a good idea to discuss | 15:58 |
| qense | At the moment it can get an authenticated launchpad object, display an empty notebook with two tabs and a TreeView where you can add the names of valid packages! | 15:58 |
| keffie_jayx | nigelbabu: I remember the only patch I ever did was not resolved. I tried the patch and it worked. since upstream wouldn't pick it up. i believe that was that | 15:59 |
| qense | and it has translation support, which is pretty pointless at the moment. But you can translate it already! :P | 15:59 |
| keffie_jayx | nigelbabu: I guess I was expecting some kind of completion. | 15:59 |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, generally, we forward patches to upstream and hear their comments | 15:59 |
| nigelbabu | if upstream refuses, its upto debian maintainer/ubuntu maintainer (if any) to make a call | 16:00 |
| keffie_jayx | nigelbabu: I did that, and upstream seems to have abandomed the app imho | 16:00 |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, ah. In that case, you can look at changelog and see who upload and get in touch with that person | 16:00 |
| keffie_jayx | the bugis also in debian and no call from them either | 16:00 |
| nigelbabu | what package? | 16:01 |
| keffie_jayx | tsclient | 16:01 |
| * keffie_jayx fetches for the bug | 16:01 | |
| vish | nigelbabu: just what i was thinking when i was away :D , gonna test that | 16:03 |
| nigelbabu | vish, I remembered when didrocks told me :) | 16:03 |
| vish | !test | 16:05 |
| ubot3 | hrm? | 16:05 |
| keffie_jayx | nigelbabu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tsclient/+bug/63412 | 16:06 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 63412 in tsclient "Few resolution options" [Wishlist,New] | 16:06 |
| keffie_jayx | nigelbabu: it is also an app that at the time was in main, so I guess the desktop team had to decide on it. | 16:06 |
| vish | nigelbabu: yay , works with metacity.. | 16:07 |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, when patching something under desktop team. the easy way is check with them :) | 16:07 |
| vish | but noticed what didrocks mentioned | 16:07 |
| nigelbabu | vish, that is for poppler bug | 16:08 |
| vish | ah.. | 16:08 |
| keffie_jayx | nigelbabu: the status of the bug is still new... after 3 years should I mark it as triaged at least? | 16:19 |
| nigelbabu | vish, can you look into the ^ bug? (I'm hunting through fedora cvs) | 16:20 |
| vish | keffie_jayx: if the bug has enough info , btw bug# ? | 16:20 |
| keffie_jayx | vish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tsclient/+bug/63412 | 16:20 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 63412 in tsclient "Few resolution options" [Wishlist,New] | 16:20 |
| keffie_jayx | it has quite a few comments | 16:21 |
| vish | keffie_jayx: yup that can be set to triaged.. | 16:25 |
| vish | sad that upstream hasnt commented on the patch though .. | 16:25 |
| vish | keffie_jayx: any reason you changed the bug from confirmed -> new? | 16:26 |
| keffie_jayx | honestly I can't remember doing that | 16:27 |
| keffie_jayx | it's been a while, confirmed is the right status then? | 16:27 |
| vish | keffie_jayx: triaged would be better | 16:28 |
| keffie_jayx | vish: the app has a devel branch that does not see activity for more than 2 years. Fedora already ships the latest code from them. shouldn't a package upgrade be an option here? | 16:28 |
| nigelbabu | vish, how on earth are we supposed to make sense of fedora CVS? | 16:30 |
| vish | keffie_jayx: i didnt understand , what you said.. | 16:30 |
| vish | nigelbabu: hehe , dont know :D , i never looked at fedora bugs ;) try google | 16:31 |
| nigelbabu | vish, no no, I'm looking for the commit | 16:32 |
| vish | nigelbabu: try the bug first , it would probably have a link | 16:32 |
| keffie_jayx | vish: the patch is for a stable version of tclient, however there is a newer version, and debian has a bug indicating an update. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530953 | 16:32 |
| ubot3 | Debian bug 530953 in tsclient "New version available: tsclient" [Wishlist,Open] | 16:32 |
| keffie_jayx | vish: and that would be desktop teams call I guess | 16:33 |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, can you ask lool about this? he's part of the debian gnome team that takes care of this | 16:34 |
| vish | keffie_jayx: yeah , not really a review team matter , pitti has already commented on the bug , it is more of a Main sponsors issue now | 16:34 |
| keffie_jayx | vish: good then... | 16:35 |
| keffie_jayx | dholbach: harvest tricked me... | 16:35 |
| * keffie_jayx runs | 16:35 | |
| dholbach | keffie_jayx: I hope we get the new version online soon | 16:35 |
| nigelbabu | keffie_jayx, pitti summarises what I feel about the patch too. | 16:41 |
| nigelbabu | The patch is so big, we'd generally leave it to upstream to take care of it. Asking debian folks is a good idea too. Open bug in Debian BTS with patch and see what happens | 16:41 |
| nigelbabu | james_w, you're james-w at ubuntu dot com? | 16:54 |
| james_w | james.westby | 16:57 |
| nigelbabu | ha, thank you :) | 16:57 |
| nigelbabu | dholbach, when you're fee just let me know | 17:23 |
| dholbach | nigelbabu: I am | 17:23 |
| nigelbabu | dholbach, ok, so the mail should have info about monday and review of wiki. anything else? | 17:23 |
| dholbach | nigelbabu: sounds good to me | 17:25 |
| nigelbabu | :) | 17:25 |
| nigelbabu | sent :) | 17:30 |
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