[00:01] Hello [00:02] I need help converting the default LVM install to RAID0 [00:04] no one here today? [00:07] Hello people! [00:08] funkyHat, hey [00:08] Has anyone set up 2 exim servers with one configured as a "satellite"? [00:09] I think most folks recommend postfix for new setup. [00:10] I already have a complex exim setup on the "server" side (i.e. not the satellite) [00:10] And gmail is managing to authenticate with that using the same transport and auth as I've set up for my satellite [00:10] But for some reason the satellite fails to auth correctly [00:10] Ah, then the "most folks" situation doesn't apply to you :) [00:11] Anyone know how to migrate from LVM to RAID0 [00:18] If anyone has a static ip setup could you copy and paste your /etc/network/interfaces file onto pastebin for an example? [00:20] http://pastebin.org/157951 [00:20] you don't need the post-up bit [00:21] Anyone know how to migrate from LVM to RAID0 [00:21] ah, I see you have "network" listed but not "gateway" [00:23] Sp3c1alK_: You probably want to add a gateway [00:23] that network doesn't have a default gateway [00:24] what's the differnce between network and gateway? [00:24] Gateway gives you a default route. [00:24] right, but what abou8t network [00:25] Specifies the start address of the network, I'd imagine. I think it's more useful for people reading that anything else. [00:25] ah, network is required, apparetly if you're using a 2.0 kernel [00:26] It's probably legacy cruft in our case. [00:51] Anyone know how to migrate from LVM to RAID0 === RootChaos is now known as RootChaos[h] [03:48] hi guys, I have a router with no snmp agent on it... ive installed mrtg on my ubuntu server...also installed snmpd.. how can i monitor this router internet traffic? [03:49] this line doesn' [03:49] thie line doesn't have a static IP.. that's the problem [03:50] i have a virtual ppp1 interface representing this line... can i use the interface name in 'cfgmaker' to monitor it? === oubiwann` is now known as oubiwann === Sam-I-Am_ is now known as Sam-I-Am [04:23] hey all, does anyone use rtorrent with xmlrpc-c support? i'm having trouble compiling it, on the surface it seemed like everything compiled correctly but when i try to run the "rtorrent" command I get an error that makes it look like libtorrent didn't compile correctly... but i can't see why. [04:25] nvm, sudo ldconfig fixed my issue. i'd like to know why... but i'm glad it's fixed [04:46] guys, if a router doesn't have an snmp agent, can i use snmpd to create snmp traffic from that interface?.. that way mrtg can monitor it [04:47] also, this internet line doesnt have a static IP [04:47] please advise [04:51] swift, is it ubuntu-based router or some "hardware router" ? [04:52] the router is a separate hardware... [04:52] but it is represented by a virtual interface on ubuntu... [04:52] forgive my terms.. but it's just a modem... all routing is done via the ubuntu server [04:53] routing and authentication.... basically there are 2 internet lines coming from two modems... and ubuntu is the router... so, all traffice passes via ubuntu outside [04:55] I assume, it's possible to use interface name in snmpd. I don't know how (I've not deployed snmp myself yet), but I see nothing wrong with that. [04:55] ok [04:55] ubuntu server box [04:55] 8.x lts whatever it is [04:55] console only [04:55] upsmon, perl, mabye some bare bones compiling tools [04:55] what roughly should I be looking at disk space wise [04:56] basically it monitors a ups and then ssh logs into 30 hosts and executes a vmware esx/esxi or server shutdown script [04:56] I think I am around 700 meg or so so I could almost get away with 1gb flash [04:57] but need some for swap [04:57] so I dunno === Jeeves__ is now known as Jeeves_ [09:11] New bug: #566475 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566475 [10:16] New bug: #566497 in clamav (main) "logging waaaaaaaay to much (7gb too much)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566497 [11:08] I'm sorry if its a silly question, but if i have an UEC and one of the nodes crashes entirely, what will happen to the VM's on the server? [11:21] KristianDK: Btw. I managed to get it fully working at hetzner ;) [11:22] binBASH, How!? :D [11:22] KristianDK: Just configure Eucalyptus Network setup to SYSTEM [11:22] i even spoke to them today, and asked different stuff and they just said it wasnt possible [11:22] and then I installed a dhcpd on each node [11:22] which provides the 3 additional ips [11:23] oh, then it can distribute everything? [11:23] yup [11:23] I also have vnc running for the vms [11:23] but still, if that server crashes - all of the VMs with IP from it will die, right? [11:23] nice :D [11:23] yup [11:23] all vms will get los [11:23] t [11:24] really? Isn't there any backup? [11:24] no [11:24] it's not persistent image [11:24] but why not store the data on walrus? that's distributed, right? [11:24] you can do that [11:24] that data will be persistent [11:25] Though it's slow with hetzner ;) [11:25] only 100 Mbit [11:25] yeah, but you can actually get a 1gbit router :) [11:26] yup [11:26] you just need to pay a lot more ;) [11:26] they didnt provide me with the price, however :P [11:26] I have it [11:26] how much is it? [11:26] You need flexipack for each server which is additionally 15 Eur / Month [11:26] and a 2nd nic [11:27] then you have to let them move all nodes in hetzner datacenter so they are located at each other [11:27] costs 69 Eur / Machine [11:27] lol [11:27] and then how much for the router itself? [11:29] sec, I'm searching this [11:29] ok :P [11:29] for 8 Port Gbit it's 59 Eur once [11:29] and for 24 Port it's 199 Eur once [11:30] well, its not that bad [11:30] just the relocation is bad ;) [11:30] btw, as you are mentioning the flexipack for the router - you don't use the raid controller? [11:30] yeah, but if you order the new ones together, you can request them in the same datacenter, they said :) [11:31] yup [11:31] and the rest of my servers are in RZ10 anyway [11:31] you don't use raid? [11:31] I don't have flexipack at all [11:31] I have all systems software raid 0 [11:32] each node has a secondary one for backup ;) [11:32] at least for the storage partitions ;) [11:32] hehe, ok :D [11:32] glusterfs does this [11:33] KristianDK: http://78.46.23.157/ [11:33] well, i guess software raid can do the trick too [11:33] See cherokee webserver runs on a vm ;) [11:33] nice :D [11:34] If you want details about network config per node just tell me [11:34] I'd love to have that, because I'm certainly gonna try it out :D [11:35] ok sec, I'll pastie it [11:36] awesome :) [11:36] KristianDK: http://www.pastie.org/926849 [11:37] you have to set net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf as well [11:40] ok :) btw, what is the different IPs in terms of hetzner? The .129 gateway, is this your own machine? [11:41] i gues .151 is the normal ip of the server? [11:41] yup [11:41] 160-162 are the 3 additional ones [11:42] it's possible to use those in the vms without special nat setup [11:42] ok, so you have only 4 ips in total, right? [11:42] 4 ips / Nodes [11:42] the main ip is not usable within the vm [11:43] the .151, correct? [11:45] yup [11:46] I will use it though [11:46] it's better to run varnish not in the vm for speed :) [11:47] i can understand that you are using the cloud for web projects too :D [11:48] btw - this line - what does the .129 and .129 mean? up route add -net 78.46.22.128 netmask 255.255.255.192 gw 78.46.22.129 eth0 [11:48] it's the default route which goes through the hetzner router [11:48] how would i translate this into my own setup? [11:48] but you have this line already in the config [11:49] it will be there from the beginning? [11:49] you just need to add routes for the additional ips [11:49] yup [11:49] ahh, cool :D [11:49] the br0 routes you need to add [11:49] yeah [11:51] in the br0, why is the netmask .255 in the end? [11:51] and not 192 [11:52] Well I took that myself from another tutorial KristianDK :) [11:52] hehe, ok :D just seemed weird to me :P [11:53] just can tell you it works for me like this ;) [11:53] hehe :P [11:53] what kind of web apps are you going to host btw? [11:53] gettyimages.com [11:53] and some subsites [11:54] things like gettyimageslatam.com [11:54] our company provides software for image agencies and press content providers. [11:55] ahh, cool :) [11:55] why does it say .aspx in the end of some of the files? :P [11:55] KristianDK: Well currently we host only gettyimageslatam.com from Getty Images [11:55] others will follow [11:56] ahh, ok - but the varnish is for php then? [11:56] varnish is a caching proxy [11:56] it can cache all kind of files [11:57] the goal is to setup a geoip based system which distributes content from serverclusters which are spread world wide [11:57] yeah, i know - but sometimes you can interact with it from the scripts - at some point i saw some tutorials with it [11:57] thats cool :-D [11:58] yeah, you can purge the objects from scripts for example [11:58] so it will reload the cached objects from the source [11:58] Must have for image changes ;) [11:59] hehe, yeah, i guess they would normally cache for quite some time [11:59] Don't want to serve old thumbnails when user uploaded new pic for example ; [11:59] true :P [12:00] anyway, my macbook pro is running out of battery - i'll see you around later ;) [12:00] see ya ;) [12:00] I have free day now. [12:29] yo! [12:41] New bug: #566560 in samba (main) "samba server requires smbpasswd -a user constantly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566560 [12:42] !landscape [12:42] Landscape makes the management and monitoring of Ubuntu systems simple and effective by combining world-class support with easy to use online management tools. https://landscape.canonical.com/ [13:25] how much of a threat, really, are viruses contained in Powerpoint presentations, i.e. ones passed around in email forwards? [13:26] for the mail server? [13:26] for the pc [13:26] * RoyK points to channel name [13:28] oh sorry wrong channel [13:43] hello, I am running 8.04 and have an issue with apparmor [13:43] $ sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor restart [13:43] Reloading AppArmor profiles Error: Could not allocate temporary file. Profile /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld failed to load [13:43] : Failed. [13:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/418567/ any idea ? [13:44] jdstrand: ^^^ [13:47] brb [13:49] zul: Would you have a chance to upload ivok's dovecot-postfix changes today? [13:49] If not, I'll do it tonight. [13:49] ScottK: not yet [13:50] ScottK: but I was going to look at it today [13:50] zul: That'd be great. Thanks. [13:50] * ScottK is busy with $WORK, car repair, and fixing clamav today. [13:52] has anyone had issues with Ubuntu Server running on hyper-v won't show more than ~139GB for hard drive size? [13:53] I have a 500GB VHD attached but Ubuntu sees is as around 139GB and can't find anyone else seeing a similar situation [14:16] smoser: ping can yo have a look at #564355? [14:18] bug 564335 [14:18] Launchpad bug 564335 in launchpad-foundations "changing ones password renders both old and new passwords invalid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564335 [14:18] smoser: crappers https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/564355 [14:18] Launchpad bug 564355 in eucalyptus "Second euca-run-instance request in same security group causes eucalyptus to remove network assoicated with security group" [Undecided,New] === kirkland` is now known as kirkland === cjohnston is now known as cjohnston|uds === cjohnston|uds is now known as cjohnston [14:44] zul: could you push this one? [14:44] zul: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drbd8/+bug/562832 [14:44] Launchpad bug 562832 in drbd8 "module drbd8 update kernel from 2.6.32-16 to 2.6.32-20" [Medium,In progress] [14:45] ivoks: i have it open in my web browser already,,,once I get through the daily traige Ill get to it [14:45] zul: awesome, thanks [14:55] flyback> ubuntu server box [14:55] 8.x lts whatever it is [14:55] console only [14:55] upsmon, perl, mabye some bare bones compiling tools [14:55] what roughly should I be looking at disk space wise [14:55] basically it monitors a ups and then ssh logs into 30 hosts and executes a vmware esx/esxi or server shutdown script [14:55] I think I am around 700 meg or so so I could almost get away with 1gb flash [14:55] kirkland, [14:55] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/564355 [14:55] Launchpad bug 564355 in eucalyptus "Second euca-run-instance request in same security group causes eucalyptus to remove network assoicated with security group" [High,New] [14:57] anyone using liferay? [15:03] I found a work around in order to set up a mysql multi instance on my hardy server [15:03] But I had to disable apparmor mysql :( [15:04] You should just have to modify the policy. [15:04] I tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor but was not able to set the policy properly [15:04] any idea, suggestion appreciated :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/418567/ [15:05] lau: we need the denied messages from dmesg/kern.log [15:05] <_ruben> flyback: 1gb flash is pushing it with a default -server install, 2gb should be fine .. when using 1gb you might wanna strip it down after install, or use alternate install cd to do minimal install (not sure how much smaller that'd become) [15:06] no X btw [15:06] jdstrand: ok, something like ? kernel: [1146644.138980] type=1503 audit(1271684949.075:317): operation="mknod" pid=7594 parent=7568 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" requested_mask="w::" denied_mask="w::" fsuid=113 ouid=113 name="/var/lib/mysql2/mysql/db.frm" [15:06] yeah I was thinking 2 gig might be the safe point [15:06] <_ruben> default install is around ~700 megs indeed, but you want enough spare space to be able to run upgrade and stuff like that [15:07] <_ruben> flyback: my fileserver at home runs from 2gb flash [15:07] nice [15:07] this is just a little mini-itx box to monitor a ups [15:07] and send shutdown scripts to some vmware esx/esxi hosts [15:07] and some others [15:07] the problem always occured when sudo mysql_install_db --user=mysql --datadir=/var/lib/mysql2/ [15:08] thx guys [15:08] oh here's a tip [15:08] they are cheap on ebay also [15:08] http://webdevsys.com/lightsOut.htm [15:09] I already found use for 2 at home and 2-3 at work [15:09] my assumption was to add a line like /var/lib/mysql2/ in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld [15:09] and if you read carefully they work with non-hp's (minus a few features) [15:10] lau: just add the following: [15:10] /var/lib/mysql/ r, [15:10] err [15:10] /var/lib/mysql2/ r, [15:10] /var/lib/mysql2/** rwk, [15:10] what does the 'k' mean? [15:10] lau: then do: 'sudo apparmor-parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysql [15:10] lil_cain: allows locking [15:14] jdstrand: do you mean http://paste.ubuntu.com/418622/ ? [15:15] jdstrand: sudo apparmor_parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld returns nothing (echo $? is 0) [15:16] lau: that is correct and that is what apparmor_parser should return [15:17] jdstrand: with you apparmor mysql config and after restarting apparmor service, [15:18] now sudo mysql_install_db --user=mysql --datadir=/var/lib/mysql2/ is ok :) [15:19] jdstrand: is it good to add lines like /var/run/mysqld/mysqld2.pid w, /etc/mysql/my.cnf r, [15:19] err, jdstrand: is it good to add lines like /var/run/mysqld/mysqld2.pid w, /etc/mysql2/my2.cnf r, [15:19] lau: if mysqld needs to use those files-- absolutely [15:20] lau: you can also check to make sure it is confined with 'sudo aa-status' [15:20] jdstrand: ok, I tried aa_status previously, reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor [15:21] lau: cool, good luck! :) [15:21] jdstrand: what is the relevant info in the kernel log above ? [15:21] I was not ale to analyze it and extract any substance to solve the issue [15:22] hello, trying to set up a bridge performing NAT for several KVM guests as well as allowing several KVM guests to have external IP's; can anybody help? [15:22] except not allowed to create db table [15:22] lau: profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" requested_mask="w::" denied_mask="w::"... name="/var/lib/mysql2/mysql/db.frm" [15:22] since it is comming from audit does this meqn it is an apparmor output ? [15:23] mean [15:23] lau: that tells you what denied it (the profile), what access was needed (requested_mask), what was not provided by the profile (denied_mask) and the file in question (name) [15:23] lau: apparmor uses 'audit', yes [15:25] lau: in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, there is a handy apparmor_notify command that can be used to summarize the logs in a more human readable form [15:26] lau: in earlier releases, you have to just look at the dmesg/kern.log or if using auditd, /var/log/audit/audit.log [15:26] ok, jdstrand, can you point me to a kernel audit reading ? I have no clue how it works and why ? what ? [15:26] ok audit is a connex service to dmesg ? [15:27] lau: the 'audit' message is generated by the kernel [15:31] ok, apparmor uses the 'audit' level message in order to log into /var/log/messages [15:31] other services may also use that kernel log level message [15:31] that is why if I suspect apparmor to create pbs, I should probably grep audit /var/log/messages [15:32] is this good a approach jdstrand ? [15:33] lau: kern.log generally-- if you log them to /var/log/messages, that would work too [15:34] lau: 'grep audit /var/log/kern.log' should help you a lot [15:43] hello, can i ask about ubuntu-server, running KVM? [15:44] Don't ask to ask, just ak. [15:44] *ask [15:46] Thanks; i'd like to double-check certain issues i'm having. I'm trying to set up a bridge that allows several guests to have external IP addresses, while also providing NAT for several guests on the internal network range [15:47] the bridge comes up fine, but i can't get internet access to the private guests; should i send the firewall script or something? [15:50] no you can't, this is fedora channel [15:50] oh, sorry, wrong channel :) [15:50] s/fedora/ubuntu/ [15:50] fallback: ok, so KVM should be bridged, while others should be nated? [15:53] several guests are in a private range in a load-balancing configuration; access should be granted from the outside using port forward to the virtual IP. Another guest running FreeBSD and DirectAdmin should be accessible directly [15:53] (because DirectAdmin demands a public IP) [15:56] ivoks: can you update the changelog in your dovecot bzr branch [15:56] changelog? [15:57] zul: isn't that extracted from bzr? :) [15:57] ivoks: bug number etc [15:57] bug number... there isn't one [15:57] the bug that was reported was on similar issue [15:57] well, you might say this upload fixes it [15:58] ok, let me update it [15:58] thanks [16:05] zul: like this? (commit 70) [16:45] ARGH! === jldugger is now known as pwnguin [16:54] Jeeves_: My sentiments exactly. [16:56] New bug: #566721 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566721 [16:59] well! TTL reached: it's time to leave! [16:59] bye! [17:15] why am I keep getting "FinishedVerify: Not enough resources (VmTypeAvailability{type=VmType{name='c1.medium', cpu=1, disk=5, mem=256}, max=0, available=0} < 1: vm instances." after "euca-run-instances -k mykey -t c1.medium emi-DE8D1064" ?? [17:23] i was able to create a samba share and access it from my other pc on the network...but how can the client pc drag and drop files to the share? [17:28] c' è nessuno italiano ? [17:41] My node controller is not talking to the CLC, what would I do? I checked the /etc/eucalyptus/eucalyptus-ipaddr.conf and manually set the ip addresses but still doesn't work. === jeffesquivel is now known as desocupadolector [17:43] I even ran the "euca_conf --no-rsync --discover-nodes" and still nothing === desocupadolector is now known as deslector [17:48] And my registration.log shows: [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:08-06:00 | 3242 -> Calling walrus Walrus 142.3.31.158 [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:08-06:00 | 3243 -> Calling storage cluster1 storage 142.3.31.158 [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:08-06:00 | 3245 -> Calling node cluster1 node 142.3.31.158 [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:08-06:00 | 3239 -> Calling storage cluster1 storage 142.3.31.158 [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:08-06:00 | 3244 -> Calling cluster cluster1 142.3.31.158 [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:08-06:00 | 3238 -> Calling walrus Walrus 142.3.31.158 [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:08-06:00 | 3241 -> Node 192.168.122.1 is already registered. [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:08-06:00 | 3245 -> Node 142.3.31.158 is already registered. [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:09-06:00 | 3240 -> Cluster cluster1 is already registered. [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:09-06:00 | 3238 -> Walrus 142.3.31.158 is already registered. [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:09-06:00 | 3244 -> Cluster cluster1 is already registered. [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:09-06:00 | 3239 -> SC for cluster1 is already registered. [17:48] 2010-04-19 10:39:09-06:00 | 3243 -> SC for cluster1 is already registered. [18:09] gzmask: use pastebin please [18:10] gzmask: please use pastebin [18:21] New bug: #566803 in augeas (main) "/usr/share/augeas/lenses/dist/iptables.aug should use a different path" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566803 [18:37] nxvl: ^^^ === RootChaos[h] is now known as RootChaos [18:38] jib: mysql 5.0 totally gone from lucid [18:41] \o/ [18:41] zul: The concern I have is that people who explicitly installed mysql-server-5.0 won't have an upgrade path. [18:41] Thanks for seeing it totally out of the archive and not just out of Main. [18:42] zul: working on it [18:42] zul: wait augeas is in main [18:42] nxvl: yeah it is ;) [18:42] zul: ok, will work on it later today [18:42] ScottK: dovecot is uploaded as well [18:43] zul: Great. [18:43] Just waiting for a Debian upload of clamav to merge and I think server stuff I'm worried about for Luicid is done. [18:56] zul: sorry I was unaware of the long log file. anyways, I got the problem fixed with the help from nerko_ and he smells a potential bug. Here's how I got it fixed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9144875#post9144875 [18:57] hggdh, is it possible for me to modify an image and try to recreate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/566792 ? [18:57] Launchpad bug 566792 in cloud-init "UEC guests sometimes fail on consuming user data" [Undecided,New] [19:07] zul++ [19:27] hi everyone i was reffered to here from ubuntu [19:27] i wondered if it would be possible to have qmail on ubuntu with qmail toaster [19:30] kirkland: what does '!' with red backgroun in byobu means? [19:33] smoser: yes [19:33] go ahead, the environment is set up [19:33] hggdh, cempedak? [19:33] cempedak is the CLC, yes [19:33] k [19:33] RoAkSoAx: Pending updates [19:34] Daviey: thanks! :) [19:34] np [19:34] smoser: topo2, cempedak=CLC, mabolo=walrus, marula=CC, santol=SC, (sapodilla|soncoya)=NC [19:35] hggdh, how often does this happen ? [19:35] anyone knows of an easy way to install + manage postfix mailboxes? [19:36] libertiy: well, it's linux after all, so you can run what you like, but see https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/dovecot-server.html for a good imap server [19:36] hggdh, other question, where did you get "20100419.1/UEC" [19:36] 20100419.1 is not available anywhere [19:36] smoser: last 200 runs, at least 5 times [19:36] i found out sudo apt-get install postfix it looks good i found devocot indeed :P [19:37] smoser do you want me to save the current logs before you start? [19:37] sure [19:37] libertiy: postfix works well [19:37] hggdh, i'll need instruction on how to run also [19:37] give me 10 minutes to get an image registered [19:37] i come from centos with qmail so this is something different [19:37] i hope a small challange :) [19:37] it shouldn't be very hard [19:38] when installing postfix with sudo apt-get install postfix i dont get imap with it i guess right? i need to seperatly install devocot [19:38] no, postfix is an mta, not a poa [19:39] so yes, install dovecot for mailbox access [19:39] Hi RoyK [19:40] hi, bashy :) [19:41] guys sudo apt-get install dovecot-postfix gives package not found [19:41] do i need to set a remote repository for packes in the ubuntu "rpm" manager? [19:42] RoyK: Damn, I have to migrate from qmail, to postfix at some day this week :) [19:42] im sorry if in not into the correct terms here, just wonder , i guess basic principes are the same [19:42] hehe i never had problems with qmail though binBASH [19:42] libertiy: Here it crashes on mails comming from 1/4 of all mailservers [19:43] really drives me nuts, but maybe it's caused by a plugin / patch....... [19:43] smoser: I used the base install from 20100419.1, and the UEC from 20100419 [19:43] hmm thats a shame to hear, but sometimes it can be nice to try other solutions and why not keeps you sharp ;p [19:43] libertiy: I'm using qmail since 2000 [19:43] so it's a shame for me to move :p [19:43] smoser: running the single user test is set up. I would still have to create the accounts for the multi [19:44] ah. iso 20100419 [19:44] smoser: but the single test is where I got the last failure [19:44] that makes since [19:44] why? [19:45] i havent really looked into the differences on qmail and postfix, but i guess thats a discussion for another channel [19:47] hggdh, ok. i've registered emi-27101629 [19:47] i'm sniff testing it to see that the debug output that i wanted gets printed [19:47] libertiy: qmail has a license that relegates it to multiverse [19:48] and then if so, run it in a test like yo uhave [19:49] libertiy: Like I said, maybe it's caused by a qmail plugin. I'm using qmail-spp [19:49] It has a plugin which looks up sender ips against dns blacklist [19:49] hmm i havent used that i used it very basic to host mailboxes for projects and customers [19:49] so spammers will be rejected and not accepted by the server [19:49] smoser: OK. Tell me when you are ready [19:50]