[00:00] <cane> hello
[00:00] <cane> is there a ubuntu server irc?
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> cane: #ubuntu-server
[00:00] <Flannel> cane: This channel is appropriate, and there's also #ubuntu-server
[00:00] <r00ster> dugger5688: okay I will see
[00:00] <cane> ActionParsnip, I tried that already-LOL
[00:00] <Armageddon> greezmunkey, still same thing
[00:00] <r00ster> dugger5688: it does seem like some weird permission issue
[00:01] <cane> ActionParsnip, it works now.
[00:01] <keepon> Hi, I need help setting up a external monitor in Ubuntu 9.10 .. is there anyone that can help me out?
[00:01] <nmoureyii> Also,  Is the 10.04 release stable enough that I can install it now and not have to do the upgrade later?
[00:01] <mrb> I have a Skystar 2 TV PCI card and i am in Syria i want to try to scan for channels and couldn't find any file of my are in /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t
[00:01] <CaptainTrek> no nmoureyii.  refer to this:
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> !10.04 | nmoureyii
[00:01] <mrb> anyone can help me ?!
[00:01] <Brimstones> r00ster, dugger5688: Are you going on SchroomFumes or just botting ? :)
[00:02] <greezmunkey> Armageddon: is you wireless adapter removable? pcmcia, or usb??
[00:02] <Armageddon> greezmunkey, no built in !
[00:02] <zebastian> how can i install windows leaving my ubuntu installation untouched, all the pages i see for dual booting involve installing windows first
[00:02] <greezmunkey> Armageddon: can you manually turn it on and off
[00:02] <Armageddon> greezmunkey, yes but I don't think Ubuntu sees that
[00:02] <greezmunkey> ?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> mrb: run: lspci   one line will identify the device, the make and model is fairly moot, you need to know the chip used. You can then find guides
[00:03] <mrb> alright
[00:03] <r00ster> Brimstones: hehe, so what else can I do?
[00:03] <Armageddon> greezmunkey, it means even if I turn it on and off from its button it Ubuntu will keep it on
[00:03] <Brimstones> r00ster, dugger5688: Do you have any ideea why the ops dont kick you for talking nonsence ?
[00:03] <Brimstones> r00ster, dugger5688: I just farted :P
[00:03] <gdewald> Hi
[00:03] <CaptainTrek> Brimstones: not appropriate here
[00:03] <greezmunkey> Armageddon: in a terminal: tail -f /var/log/syslog, then cycle your wireless, paste what you get.
[00:03] <nmoureyii> Bye.
[00:04] <greezmunkey> Armageddon: ah, ok - what does NM do?
[00:04] <Brimstones> r00ster, dugger5688, CaptainTrek: I just farted :P
[00:04] <dugger5688> r00ster, what was the output?
[00:04] <Armageddon> greezmunkey, usually its on all the time
[00:04] <mrb> Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02) |||| thats the chip But i can't find the frequencies file for my country !
[00:04] <CaptainTrek> Brimstones: i'm serious.  Inappropriate in here.
[00:04] <gdewald> Anyone know if there is a way to get Windows 7 - like functionality with window manipulation?(full screen if you move the window to the top and half screen when you move it to the side)?
[00:04] <greezmunkey> Armageddon: does it sit there and spin, or just give up?
[00:04] <r00ster> Brimstones: so you can't help me...
[00:05] <Armageddon> greezmunkey, it still says network not managed, and now it sits there
[00:05] <slckb0y> hi everyone :) is someone running KDE in a virtualbox under win7 ? :) i can't seem to use OpenGL for desktop effect even if i installed guest additions :/
[00:05] <Brimstones> CaptainTrek: Im very young. Arent we allowed to be here in this channel ?
[00:05] <Brimstones> CaptainTrek: Im 9 years old, just learning C.
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> slckb0y: ou wont get 3D accel in vbox
[00:05] <greezmunkey> Armageddon: did you restart networking as I posted before?
[00:05] <CaptainTrek> Brimstones: yes, but this isnt a chatroom like instant messenger.  this is a support channel for Ubuntu
[00:05] <r00ster> dugger5688: I am not too sure that will help
[00:05] <Armageddon> yes
[00:05] <slckb0y> i do under compiz and games :/
[00:05] <Brimstones> CaptainTrek: Chatroom ?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> slckb0y: you can get a good res using the vbox driver but thats it
[00:05] <rapha> funny, funny ... so mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb2 worked on the iPod, and it's now officially empty, but you still can't write to it.
[00:06] <CaptainTrek> i'll let the ops take over, i'm off to get coffee
[00:06] <SeaPhor> ActionParsnip, whats the link to see how OPs are best presented.. how they're to act?
[00:06] <Brimstones> CaptainTrek: Is there room for a chats ?
[00:06] <TomG> gdewald: That is in kde4.
[00:06] <greezmunkey> Armageddon: Try restarting NM then.
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> SeaPhor: !ops will call them
[00:06] <Armageddon> greezmunkey, how ?
[00:06] <coachj> is there a way to move File Edit View History Bookmarks Tools Help from under XXXXXX-Mozilla Firefox to beside it?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> SeaPhor: is that what you mean?
[00:06] <gdewald> so no way to do it in gnome?
[00:07] <dugger5688> r00ster, that command doesn't 'do' anything, it just lists permissions.
[00:07] <r00ster> i know
[00:07] <clarkb> gdewald: there was a compiz extension that did it with key bindings
[00:07] <r00ster> but but I don't think messing with the permissions will help
[00:07] <r00ster> but I will try again I guess
[00:07] <clarkb> and any tiling wm will do it
[00:08] <TomG> gdewald: I only know of it in KDE
[00:08] <r00ster> it starts with a ew
[00:08] <Kaapa> Hey there. I have ubuntu on my eee pc. Everything is working perfect except for the wifi card. When I start the pc I need to rmmod ath9k / modprobe ath9k in order to have network. Anything I can do to automate this?
[00:08] <Armageddon> greezmunkey, how do I restart nm-applet ?
[00:08] <r00ster> it starts with a rw*
[00:08] <gdewald> awww...
[00:08] <r00ster> so there is a read and write access
[00:08] <greezmunkey> Armageddon: that depends a lot on your install, just restart for now.
[00:08] <Armageddon> greezmunkey, ok then
[00:08] <Brimstones> Mr Trekk: I hope i havnt been bad to your? channel...
[00:08] <SeaPhor> ActionParsnip, not needed, what i'm asking is the "OPs  and being OP'd, there is a article saying how OPs should present themselves,,,
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> Kaapa: make a startup script and put it in /etc/rc.local to do what you do manually and put a small pause in between
[00:09] <dugger5688> r00ster: did you try changing your session to failsafe gnome?
[00:09] <greezmunkey> Armageddon: I hate to say that, but the ../../networking restart should have done it for you...
[00:09] <Kaapa> ActionParsnip: trying that
[00:09] <edomeda> what is the name of the old "add/remove software" package?
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> edomeda: synptic
[00:09] <gdewald> is there a way to completely change over to kubuntu from ubuntu without reinstalling everything?(I don't mean integrating KDE into ubuntu, bc I don't want gnome's applications in KDE)
[00:10] <Flannel> !purekde | gdewald
[00:10] <clarkb> you can just install kde and gnome side by side
[00:10] <gdewald> thanks
[00:11] <edomeda> ActionParsnip, not that one, the one from 8.04 that said "add remove software..."
[00:11] <Kaapa> ActionParsnip: didn't work - apparently it's something that goes wrong after user logs in
[00:11] <SeaPhor> Flannel, do you know of the link to the Freenode article on how OPs are to present themselves?
[00:12] <Brimstones> r00ster: If you had done what i said yould be done by now, Switch to terminal login from GDM (GNoME Display Manager) (CTRL+ALT+F1) edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... change driver "nvidia" to driver "nv" ... Itll suck speedwise but itll not make X crash.
[00:13] <Brimstones> PS: I make better oses then Ubuntu or microsoft combined (Sorry, its just the truth)
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> edomeda: i dont know any other, ive always used apt-get
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: its also offtopic here
[00:13] <Brimstones> Sorry
[00:14] <edomeda> ActionParsnip, I do for individual packages, but it was very handy for doing several packages at once.   I guess synaptic one will work, but I liked the old one. :-/
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> edomeda: theres software centre too, you can install multiple packages with apt-get: sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3
[00:16] <edomeda> ActionParsnip, sure, if you know the package names for everything. :)  Don't care to apt-cache search xyz for things first.  the new (9.10+) software center only seems to do one at a time unless I'm missing something
[00:17] <Kaapa> one more thing - hibernate doesn't work on my pc; I'm not familiar with grub. Where do I need to tell where my swap partition is?
[00:17] <jasmuz> Does anyone have a good grasp on TV Tuner Cards?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> edomeda: no idea, i dont use it :)
[00:17] <Armageddon> greezmunkey
[00:17] <Brimstones> So, after the Island Outburst of Sulphuric Acid (Car battery Acid fumes, ECMO lung-syndromes etc) Will the Big bang volcano DESTROY our summer in Europe (PS: Evil commies)
[00:18] <jasmuz> Brimstones, hey.. i have to talk to you about the tuner card
[00:18] <Brimstones> jasmuz. You have all the knowhow you need to make it work
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: thats also offtopic here
[00:19] <Brimstones> jasmuz. Sure
[00:19] <jasmuz> Brimstones, something strange happened.. I ran with card=1, and it made tvtime scan.. it found channels, now it won't do jack and i placed card=1 as the default one.
[00:19] <Brimstones> ActionParsnip: But it can be good if thousands of people doesnt die, maybe ?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: its not ubuntu related so is offtopic here
[00:20] <greezmunkey> Armageddon: 'sup, any luck?
[00:21] <duffydack> !webcam > duffydack
[00:23] <Brimstones> ActionParsnip: But you appreciate the fact that ive potentially just helped about atleast 2000 people by word of mouth and interwebs perhaps ?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: maybe so yes, i have done similar (check top contributors on launchpad ;))
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: what's your point?
[00:24] <cornkid> howdy peeps
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> !hi | cornkid
[00:25] <Brimstones> ActionParsnip: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6276291.stm
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: i'm from the UK dude
[00:26] <Brimstones> http://news.bbc.co.uk
[00:26] <Barnabas> Brimstones, does the volcano run ubuntu ?
[00:26] <Brimstones> Yeah! :)
[00:26] <gdewald> FFFFFFUUUUUUUU
[00:26] <codygman> for some reason hibernate and standby stopped working
[00:27] <codygman> it won't come out of standby that is
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: the ash clous is not an ubuntu support question so is offtopic here
[00:27] <codygman> either that or it won't go into
[00:27] <Barnabas> codygman, did you mess around with the bios
[00:27] <codygman> Barnabas: no
[00:27] <gdewald> All my ubuntu programs are still here...
[00:27] <gdewald> >.<
[00:27] <codygman> the only thing that changed was my gnome theme
[00:27] <codygman> and some updates
[00:27] <h3ll0> umount: /media/KINGSTON is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[00:27] <h3ll0> wtf?
[00:27] <greezmunkey> I was 18 miles away from Mt.St.Helens when it went off, just a burp...computers kept running.
[00:27] <Barnabas> codygman, in synaptic you have the possibility to roll back updates
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: try using sudo at the start of the command
[00:28] <codygman> Barnabas: checking now
[00:28] <Brimstones> ActionParsnip: I see. Atleast mr h3ll0 has a great usb-stick
[00:28] <h3ll0> and it's not detecting the pen drive like before
[00:28] <Barnabas> try that if that fixes the problem you know
[00:28] <Barnabas> well you know where to start to look
[00:28] <h3ll0> Brimstones,  dont blame my usb blame ubuntu
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: if it stores stuff i guess its as good as any
[00:28] <h3ll0> it's a fucking bug--
[00:28] <daftykins> language please.
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> !language |h3l
[00:29] <h3ll0> :)
[00:29] <Brimstones> I blame everyone and no0ne! :)
[00:29] <codygman> Barnabas: i'm not seeing an option to roll back
[00:29] <Barnabas> h3ll0, why is it a bug? mounting file systems is generally a job for root or operator group
[00:29] <gdewald> oh, found a way to remove everything gnome relatyed
[00:29] <guest> Hello , everyone I am new to ubuntu
[00:29] <guest> System is running perfectly
[00:29] <h3ll0> Barnabas, it was working before so..
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: is the device still attached to the system?
[00:30] <h3ll0> yes
[00:30] <guest> The only problem I'm facing is that now the computer does not have any wireless access
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: you could try using: sudo eject    on the device in /dev
[00:30] <h3ll0> i can unmounted via gparted
[00:31] <Brimstones> Same old, same old... pack a good Co2-punch :)
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> guest: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network     use http://pastebin.com to give the output
[00:32] <Barnabas> codygman, try to look under history in the file tab in synaptic
[00:32] <Barnabas> you actually cannot roll them back directly from synaptic - you are right
[00:32] <h3ll0> it's not detecting usb anymore
[00:32] <gdewald> is openoffice part of both ubuntu and kubuntu?
[00:32] <h3ll0> pen drive
[00:32] <h3ll0> very odd
[00:32] <Barnabas> but you will get a list of things having happened since a given date
[00:33] <r00ster> What is the problem if Gnome can't open the .profile when when logging in?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: then rmmod the usb_storage module and modprobe it
[00:33] <Barnabas> so you will know what packages have been updated
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> gdewald: i believe so
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> r00ster: permissions possibly
[00:33] <h3ll0> ur talking chinese :P
[00:33] <Barnabas> h3ll0, when you "unplug" your kingston device, do you umount it first?
[00:34] <Barnabas> very important
[00:34] <Barnabas> on all file systems
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: the usb flash access etc access is controlled via the usb_storage module, if you remove it then reload it then its functionality should be restored
[00:34] <h3ll0> it doesnt show up like before
[00:34] <LucidGuy> Loosing my mind simply trying to create an additional software raid md volume using two new drives. Day 2 many hours no luck. Details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/417705/   Please someone ease my pain!
[00:34] <r00ster> ActionParsnip: the permissions are -rw-r--r--
[00:34] <r00ster> and I mean
[00:34] <h3ll0> but disk utility detects it
[00:34] <r00ster> I didn't change anything
[00:35] <Barnabas> h3ll0, ergo the system cannot detect the file system on the device
[00:35] <r00ster> how can permissions just change like that?
[00:35] <h3ll0> it's ntfs like bfore
[00:35] <CaptainTrek> r00ster: same reason that the permissions for my home folder on netbookremix were root-edit only
[00:35] <Barnabas> h3ll0, unless it is corrupted
[00:35] <Barnabas> somehow
[00:35] <guest> *-network
[00:35] <guest>        description: Network controller
[00:35] <guest>        product: BCM4312 802.11b/g
[00:35] <guest>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[00:35] <guest>        physical id: 0
[00:35] <FloodBot1> guest: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:35] <guest>        bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
[00:35] <guest>        version: 01
[00:35] <CaptainTrek> r00ster: no idea why they randomly change :P
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: you said usb wasnt working
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | guest
[00:36] <CaptainTrek> guest: use pastebin for multiline posts
[00:36] <greezmunkey> Does flooding like that kick you out of here?
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> guest: I also said to use http://pastebin.com so you wouldn't flood like that
[00:37] <h3ll0> it's not detecting pen drive correctly.
[00:37] <Brimstones> greezmunkey: Perhaps youve gone blind ?
[00:37] <Barnabas> h3ll0, could you try to remove and insert the usb drive and check dmesg
[00:37] <Brimstones> greezmunkey: Its always a "Dont do that..."
[00:37] <Barnabas> use pastebin
[00:37] <guest> http://pastebin.com/BgmF64Ug
[00:37] <r00ster> CaptainTrek: They didn't
[00:37] <gdewald> hmm...
[00:37] <Barnabas> just to see the system reaction
[00:37] <h3ll0> i ejected it
[00:37] <h3ll0> and removed
[00:38] <Barnabas> ok do you know dmesg
[00:38] <h3ll0> no
[00:38] <h3ll0> i typed it in terminal
[00:38] <Barnabas> dmesg is a utility to write out system information about different things one is information about devices removed and added
[00:38] <gdewald> so I'm guessing there is no real way to have both KDE and gnome without seeing KDE programs in gnome and vice-versa?
[00:38] <Brimstones> TimothyA: Dick
[00:38] <TimothyA> what?
[00:38] <greezmunkey> Brimstones: I'm not going to get into that with you, I was just curious if flooding would automatically get you disconnected, that's all. PS I know flooding is unacceptable. :)
[00:39] <Barnabas> you can probably find the same info i a GUI tool but I am used to the console :-)
[00:39] <TimothyA> what did I ever do to you? :|
[00:39] <jasmuz> gdewald: if you MUST, use alacarte to remove from your menu the items you don't want there.
[00:39] <trimatrix> absoluetly nothing
[00:39] <Barnabas> if you reinsert it it dmesg should write out some info about the device inserted
[00:39] <joshdreamland> Is there an easy way to format a flash drive?
[00:39] <Brimstones> greezmunkey: I like floodings, but i bet its not considered cool :P
[00:39] <gdewald> ;__;
[00:39] <joshdreamland> as in, without crossing the arctic ocean. naked.
[00:39]  * TimothyA beats Brimstones with a stick
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> joshdreamland: run: gksudo gparted
[00:39] <trimatrix> hit the format button on te flash drive?
[00:40] <joshdreamland> ActionParsnip: Tried it, got this:
[00:40] <Brimstones> joshdreamland: "gparted" ?
[00:40] <joshdreamland>  /dev/sdg: unrecognised disk label
[00:40] <jasmuz> joshdreamland: duh, right click over the usb drive, and there is a format option
[00:40] <trimatrix> thats weird.......
[00:40] <joshdreamland> jasmuz: Not on this distro....
[00:40] <joshdreamland> or perhaps version. Does Karmic implement one?
[00:40] <trimatrix> can't tell you then how.....
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> joshdreamland: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[00:41] <jasmuz> joshdreamland: unrecognized disk label, that is an odd error.. go with Gparted
[00:41] <joshdreamland> Codename:	jaunty
[00:41] <joshdreamland> jasmuz: He's the one that generated the error.
[00:41] <jasmuz> joshdreamland: yes, karmic does have the built-in format option
[00:42] <h3ll0> this is making me angry
[00:42] <joshdreamland> Well, something to look forward to then if I can install it on this flash drive I can't format :D
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> joshdreamland: then you can label the partition if you like, humour it
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> !label | joshdreamland
[00:42] <Barnabas> h3ll0, know the feeling, but unless you list the output of dmesg when inserting the device noone will be able to tell if the system found it
[00:42] <joshdreamland> haha, okay, I'll try it...
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: then you need some help if a usb device gets you angry
[00:43] <h3ll0> ActionParsnip, stfu pls
[00:43] <zebastian> hello
[00:43] <zebastian> i want to install windows
[00:43] <greezmunkey> h3ll0: calm down, it's just a computer - you'll get it figured, ppl are trying to help you as well! It could be a lot worse :)
[00:43] <zebastian> without having to do a clean install of ubuntu
[00:43] <zebastian> that is leaving my current ubuntu installation untouched
[00:44] <zebastian> for dual booting
[00:44] <zebastian> how can i go about this?
[00:44] <Barnabas> zebastian, will you need a physical system or can you do with a virtual pc
[00:44] <Barnabas> that is emulation of hw and a windows on top
[00:44] <zebastian> Barnabas: what do you mean a physical system?
[00:45] <zebastian> i am on a laptop that already uses ubuntu hardy
[00:45] <owen1> can i connect with rdesktop from ubuntu to ubuntu?
[00:45] <jasmuz> zebastian: You would have to resize your partitions in order to install Windows, and afterwards run a live disc to reinstall GRUB (physical way)
[00:45] <Barnabas> a system running of a physical partition
[00:45] <zebastian> i want to install windows without deleting any hardy
[00:45] <Barnabas> zebastian, dual boot
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: boot to livecd and resize your partitions to make some unpartitioned space to install windows to
[00:45] <zebastian> ok, is there a tutorial you can point me towards
[00:45] <Barnabas> zebastian, what will you need the windows system for :-)
[00:45] <zebastian> to do this, so i will need a grub boot cd
[00:46] <Barnabas> zebastian, gaming?
[00:46] <owen1> what do i need to configure on the server to allow rdesktop?
[00:46] <jasmuz> owen1: rdesktop os for windows machines
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you should backup your data incase of catastrophe and you will need to reinstall grub to the mbr as the xp install wil overwrite grub
[00:46] <zebastian> certain language learning apps
[00:46] <jasmuz> owen1: Ubuntu--->Windows
[00:46] <owen1> jasmuz: got it. what if my server is ubuntu?
[00:46] <Barnabas> zebastian, if you only need for "regular" windows apps there is no reason to reinstall it physically
[00:47] <h3ll0> im thinking of formatting install xp (first) and then install ubuntu as primary but these bugs are annyoing and delaying me
[00:47] <zebastian> so basically, i back up, burn a cd of grub, make a new empty space partition, and then stick the windows install cd, i install it then i stick the grub cd?
[00:47] <Brimstones> I feel ashamed of my brain because I feel that people moving into the US, Europe are stealing what would have been my job or jobs. I know that the immigrants are troubled and perhaps war-ridden, but please tell me why i should accept that my life is total crap because they decided to immigrate to my country ?
[00:47] <Barnabas> zebastian, I would look into Sun VirtualBox
[00:47] <Barnabas> you will be able to run windows under linux and execute the software you need
[00:47] <zebastian> is there a tutorial where you can point me to do this
[00:48] <jasmuz> owen1: if you want to connect remotely to your server you can do it via ssh, or graphical system, via X
[00:48] <Kaapa> hey again. where can I put a script that will be executed when user logs in?
[00:48] <zebastian> i have never done this before, so i back up files, create new partition, stick windows in that partition, use a grub cd and then what?
[00:48] <Barnabas> zebastian, http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-virtualbox-3.0-on-an-ubuntu-9.04-desktop
[00:48] <owen1> jasmuz: i use ssh, but sometimes i want to control the UI. what app will let me do ubuntu->ubuntu with UI?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: will you please keep ontopic, the ops can tell you more if you'd like
[00:49] <zebastian> Barnabas: i dont want that, ive already used wine to no avail
[00:49] <zebastian> and i am on a laptop
[00:49] <owen1> jasmuz: maybe ssh -XC ?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Barnabas: not if the windows install is for gaming
[00:49] <dugger5688> zebastion: you're going to probably make a "file" that is the hard drive for your guest OS.
[00:49] <Brimstones> ActionParsnip: Yes, no
[00:49] <Barnabas> ActionParsnip, agree
[00:49] <Barnabas> but it wasnt
[00:49] <Kaapa> a1mutt
[00:49] <Barnabas> zebastian, wine != sun virtual box
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: ash clouds and immigration are offtopic here, i have asked you nicely. i will call the ops next time
[00:50] <Barnabas> wine is an emulation of windows api under linux
[00:50] <jasmuz> owen1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347163
[00:50] <Kaapa> missed a ctr key there :S
[00:50] <Barnabas> sun virtualbox is a hw emulation software pkg
[00:50] <h3ll0> linux sucks for gaming that's for sure
[00:50] <dugger5688> but it is nice to keep on a separate volume so you don't bottleneck with your HDD
[00:50] <Barnabas> h3ll0, because games are written for directx
[00:50] <Brimstones> ActionParsnip: Call Ananke, that one hell of a useless op :P /Point taken though, im trying to be nice you know
[00:50] <h3ll0> y
[00:50] <h3ll0> yes
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: plays half-life2, fretsonfire and penumbra overture pretty sweet here
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: world of warcraft also plays excellently as well as doom2 performing better than the windows version
[00:51] <h3ll0> go play cs 1.6
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> !games | h3ll0
[00:51] <owen1> jasmuz: thanks
[00:51] <Barnabas> ActionParsnip, all opengl games will cross compile (almost)
[00:52] <h3ll0> and no steam for linux
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: another great game as well as urbanterror which runs great
[00:52] <jasmuz> owen1: you're welcomed.
[00:52] <h3ll0> it's all about money
[00:52] <joshdreamland> Wine Is Not an Emulator. >=[
[00:52] <dugger5688> I thought steam ran on Linux?
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> h3ll0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CounterStrike
[00:52] <jasmuz> dugger5688: Steam does run on wine
[00:52] <dugger5688> ARGHG recursive acronym!
[00:52] <cambazz> hello, is it possible to upgrade from 8.10 to latest, and if so how
[00:53] <Barnabas> zebastian, did you get the answer you needed?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | cambazz
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> cambazz: you must upgrade to the next release in turn, you cannot leapfrog
[00:53] <Barnabas> well windows is fine for bootstrapping my games
[00:53] <zebastian> Barnabas: Not really
[00:53] <Barnabas> nothing much else
[00:53] <Barnabas> zebastian, do you know vmware for windows?
[00:53] <cambazz> ActionParsnip: so from 8.10 to 9.10 how many leaps i need
[00:54] <zebastian> i need step by step post hardy windows dual bt install
[00:54] <joshyfluff> Can anyone tell me how to get the login/logout plugin working on compiz?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> cambazz: 8.10 -> 9.04 then 9.04 -> 9.10
[00:54] <Barnabas> zebastian, I doubt a dual boot will be necessary if you only want to run "regular" windows
[00:54] <Barnabas> that is no gaming
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> joshyfluff: i'd ask in #compiz
[00:54] <jasmuz> joshyfluff: good question.. lol
[00:54] <joshyfluff> Aah, ok
[00:54] <cambazz> auch
[00:54] <zebastian> Barnabas: not regular windows programs
[00:55] <jasmuz> joshyfluff: if you find out, tell me how.
[00:55] <zebastian> more like encyclopedias and language programs written for windows
[00:55] <Barnabas> zebastian, gaming then?
[00:55] <joshyfluff> Also, the GNOME panels are loading a lot slower than anything else, for example... On login, first the icons appear, then a few seconds later the panels appear
[00:55] <Barnabas> or gfx
[00:55] <zebastian> .exes wine wont run
[00:55] <h3ll0> hm gparted says pendrive is using 3gb.
[00:55] <joshyfluff> I thought they were supposed to slide in from the top and bottom, like on the login screen?
[00:55] <Brimstones> ActionParsnip: If id hire anyone here id consider you. Np!
[00:56] <Barnabas> zebastian, I think we misunderstanding each other
[00:56] <joshyfluff> And I will, jasmuz :3
[00:56] <thebwt> how can I tell rhythmbox to ignore a folder in ~/Music ? It does it for podcasts so i know there is a way.
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: just keeping the channel guidlines
[00:56] <jasmuz> joshyfluff: thanks
[00:56] <Barnabas> zebastian, a virtual pc under linux will be able to boot a windows system from scratch
[00:57] <zebastian> Barnabas: i dont have a tonne of memory
[00:57] <zebastian> i am  on my laptop
[00:57] <Barnabas> giving you a full window system
[00:57] <Barnabas> zebastian, how much mem
[00:57] <zebastian> i need it to run right
[00:57] <zebastian> 1gb
[00:57] <Brimstones> ActionParsnip: You also keep what i call the real, human guidelines. Not many do, youre very special. Keep up the good work!
[00:57] <Barnabas> zebastian, ok, thats on the low side I agree
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Brimstones: i try, thanks man :D
[00:58] <Brimstones> Np
[00:58] <zebastian> Barnabas: so i need help to install windows leaving the current ubuntu install intact
[00:58] <Barnabas> zebastian, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[00:58] <Barnabas> try to look under "Installing Windows After Ubuntu"
[00:59] <tj__> hey guys, how do you clear apt-get of unmet package depenencies that it falsely thinks it has?
[00:59] <tj__> i have ubuntu server installed, and i have installed no packages
[01:00] <LucidGuy> problem fixed ..
[01:00] <shadewind> anyone running Linux on a Mac who can give me their output of "sensors"?
[01:00] <Flannel> tj__: Do you have an example of a package it thinks it has that it doesn't?
[01:00] <TomG> tj__: Does it really think it has something it doesn't, or are you running 64 bit needing 32 bit libraries?
[01:00] <Barnabas> zebastian, I'm afraid it will be a bit technical, since you a poking around with disk partitions, boot sectors and file systems
[01:00] <tj__> it attempts to install all of the packages needed for X
[01:01] <Barnabas> unless you have a spare disk?
[01:01] <Brimstones> tj__: clear ?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> tj__: sudo apt-get -f install     may help
[01:01] <zebastian> Barnabas: spare disk?
[01:01] <tj__> -f attempts to install X and all 700MB that go with it
[01:02] <Barnabas> zebastian, a second hard drive in your pc, that can be used for linux
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> tj__: then you have installed an X based app and the system wants to satisfy the dep
[01:03] <tj__> thats the thing, im attempting to purge that apo
[01:03] <CTho> where can I see what the printer test page is supposed to look like?
[01:03] <karpus> hello, if I install the 10.04 RC that is released on thursday, can I just update to "retail" when it's released? I know that a format is recommended when you install a new version since upgrading isn't always working, but is there no such problems when going from rc to retail?
[01:03] <zebastian> Barnabas: nope but i have a backup external drive
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | karpus
[01:03] <tj__> and I am unable to, since apt-get throws errors about unmet dependencies
[01:03] <Barnabas> zebastian, if it is your backup dont mess around with it
[01:04] <Flannel> karpus: Correct, but #ubuntu+1 is the place to ask until it's released
[01:04] <zebastian> ok
[01:04] <zebastian> so apparently i have to burn a cd of this thing called grub
[01:04] <karpus> Flannel: oh sorry, but I guess my question's answered, thanks
[01:04] <Barnabas> zebastian, no grub is the boot loader
[01:04] <Brimstones> pure_hate: Want me to crush your hate man ? ;)
[01:04] <flintwestwood> i there, im having this wierd problem viewing 1 particular pdf in document viewer. Its 350mb, when i open it in doc viewer, all the letters and stuff just show up as dots ( its zoomed to 100%). If i open it in xpdf it renders fine, ut if i scroll down it crashes. Im not having any of these issues on xp using foxit reader. any help would be appreciated
[01:04] <Barnabas> zebastian, what you have to do is to create a second partion on your existing hard drive
[01:05] <Barnabas> or
[01:05] <Barnabas> add another hard drive
[01:05] <zebastian> Barnabas: ok, how do i do that?
[01:05] <pure_hate> Brimstones, Is that supposed to be some sort of lame joke?
[01:05] <zebastian> Barnabas: how do i create a new partition?
[01:05] <tj__> is there an option to ignore the unmet dependencies of packages in apt-get and continue execution of its command?
[01:05] <Brimstones> pure_hate: Im serious.
[01:05] <Barnabas> zebastian, how much available space do you have on the harddrive you have?
[01:06] <zebastian> 35-40 gb
[01:06] <Barnabas> zebastian, and the total size?
[01:06] <pure_hate> Brimstones, I have no clue who you are so I am not sure why you are even talking to me but to answer your question, no thanks I am fine.
[01:06] <Brimstones> pure_hate: I always try to help as best i can.
[01:07] <zebastian> Barnabas: how do i check that
[01:07] <Barnabas> zebastian, hmm thats a windows question - just a minue (anyone feel free)
[01:07] <Brimstones> pure_hate: Ok, but i believe no man is absolutely fine, to that absolute extent :)
[01:08] <zebastian> Barnabas:  i am on ubuntu hardy, how do i check the hard drive size
[01:08] <zebastian> i think its total around 160 gb
[01:08] <pure_hate> Brimstones, Not to be arogant but I am pretty sure I dont need your help, thanks for asking though
[01:09] <Barnabas> zebastian, ok I understood you had a windows system on a whole disk (partition) and wanted a second partition on which to run linux (ubuntu)
[01:09] <Barnabas> am I misunderstood
[01:09] <Brimstones> pure_hate: Agreed, be well.
[01:09] <Monotoko> wow that was harsh....
[01:11] <tj__> ahh, nvm, i screwed up the system, i called dpkg -i * on a directory, fixing this would take forever, reinstalling the OS
[01:11] <TomG> zebastian: You're on windows right now?
[01:11] <zebastian> Barnabas: i am on ubuntu hardy
[01:11] <zebastian> i want to install windows
[01:11] <zebastian> without anything
[01:11] <zebastian> happening to hardy
[01:11] <zebastian> and my files
[01:11] <FloodBot1> zebastian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <zebastian> and my set up
[01:11] <Barnabas> zebastian, ok
[01:12] <Barnabas> the other way around then
[01:12] <Brimstones> Monotoko: Imagine all your friends dying. Now thats harsh perhaps..
[01:12] <Barnabas> I think that makes it a lot easier in here
[01:12] <Monotoko> Brimstones...ouch..
[01:12]  * Monotoko really doesnt have a response to that
[01:13] <Barnabas> zebastian, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition
[01:13] <Brimstones> Monotoko: I have many but those things are gutkickingsly evil
[01:13] <Barnabas> will tell you how to resize a partion
[01:13] <tj__> man fdisk
[01:13] <tj__> done
[01:13] <Monotoko> Brimstones, aye quite true
[01:13] <Barnabas> you need to shrink your partition enough to fit a window system
[01:13] <TomG> Brimstones: Do I win if I said I had no friends?
[01:13] <Barnabas> on a second one
[01:13] <Brimstones> TomG: Nope, id say... Why ?
[01:14] <Barnabas> zebastian, I cannot emphasize this enough .. BACK UP YOUR SYSTEM FIRST
[01:14] <harjot> guys im having problems with an icon set anybody able to help when i ask? (anyone listening?)
[01:14] <TomG> Brimstones: And I'd say because I scared them all away trying to convert them to linux
[01:14] <red2kic> What is the command I'm looking? To export X11 Forwarding instead of logging out/in in order to add -Y parameter to my ssh?
[01:14] <dugger5688> shadewind: sorry, in OS X right now or I'd help out.
[01:14] <zebastian> Barnabas: eventually i want to be able to access the ubuntu partition from windows
[01:14] <zebastian> i remember i coudl do this before
[01:15] <Brimstones> TomG: So none of the 650 something millions of people already using Linux will do for you ?
[01:15] <Barnabas> zebastian, hmm it is a lot easier to access you windows drive from ubuntu :-)
[01:15] <zebastian> Barnabas: i want to do both
[01:15] <Thorax> Hey! Can someone help me trobleshoot "hulu desktop" installation? I edited the config file in ~/.huludesktop to point to flash, but it keeps telling me that it can't find flash plugin
[01:15] <zebastian> i know it can be done
[01:15] <Thorax> my flash is 64b
[01:15] <TomG> Brimstones: I live in the boonies.  What's a computer?
[01:15] <Thorax> on Ubuntu 9.10
[01:15] <harjot> zebastian: i can do it
[01:15] <harjot> zebastian: to access ubuntu from windows
[01:16] <Barnabas> zebastian, I cannot help you with whats possible under windows in that regard
[01:16] <Brimstones> TomG: The Whaa ?
[01:16] <harjot> zebastian: download ext2 manager
[01:16] <Barnabas> zebastian, you most likely need to add some drivers to windows
[01:16] <TomG> Brimstones: The flux capacitor of course.
[01:16] <zebastian> harjot: can you link me to a tutorial of some kind of what needs to be gotten
[01:16] <m477>  i got this error when im using KDE aplications on difference distros http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6244/zrzutekranuek.png and error log http://wklej.org/hash/8f027406edf/
[01:16] <harjot> zebastian: ok let me look
[01:16] <m477> can you help ?
[01:16] <zebastian> harjot:  this is free right?
[01:16] <harjot> yup
[01:17] <Brimstones> TomG: Oh, you mean D Lorean :P
[01:17] <harjot> zebastian: http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.ext2fsd.com/%3Fpage_id%3D16&ei=76DLS8CoOI-I0wTPo4i5BA&sa=X&oi=oneline_sitelinks&resnum=one&ct=result&cd=one&ved=0CAgQ0gIoADAA&usg=AFQjCNEwo09rKU1UMmUHEuUH__UHPJIwoQ
[01:17] <Barnabas> zebastian, if you want to avoid all the partion magic stuff simply add a second hard drive to your pc
[01:17] <Barnabas> they are cheap nowadays
[01:17] <Barnabas> and install windows on it
[01:17] <gcunha_> Please, i have a problem envolving security .....   http://pastebin.com/P3ykXJE6
[01:17] <harjot> zebastian: all you have to do is download and select drive letter
[01:18] <zebastian> buying hardware is not an option
[01:18] <TomG> Brimstones: Yeah, I'm way off topic though.  I apologize.  I got caught in your trap.  You're just too fun not to talk to sometimes.
[01:18] <zebastian> harjot: cool
[01:18] <killaz_> hi i would like to know if there is a way to reset ubuntu to default (software....) but without a live cd or usb ?
[01:18] <Thorax> please guys, I can't see why this is giving me problems - what should the flash plugin directory be? I entered it as /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer
[01:19] <harjot> zebastian: Haev you got a ubuntu live cd?
[01:19] <Brimstones> TomG: Im not about traps. I wish to have fun on irc and possibly not get angry at someone else :)
[01:19] <Barnabas> harjot, yes cool indeed
[01:19] <Naboo> Hey, I have a question: Is it possible to update a program like Transmission (for obvious reasons) without upgrading to the next version of Ubuntu, in my case from Jaunty to Karmic? Thanks!
[01:19] <zebastian> harjot: do i download it onto windows or onto ubuntu?
[01:19] <Barnabas> did not know that one, am a 100% unix / linux user
[01:19] <harjot> zebastian: windows
[01:19] <harjot> zebastian: it installs the drivers for you
[01:19] <Brimstones> TomG: Im very bad at the first part but im getting better
[01:19] <TomG> Thorax: /usr/lib/mozilla probably
[01:20] <Barnabas> harjot, but he still needs to intially install a windows system
[01:20] <Barnabas> on a new partition
[01:20] <harjot> Barnabas:  cant he use gparted?
[01:20] <TomG> Brimstones: Understandable.  Anger usually won't solve anything.
[01:20] <harjot> Barnabas: from ubuntu live cd?
[01:20] <Barnabas> harjot, yes
[01:20] <Barnabas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition
[01:21] <harjot> Barnabas: i missed the earlier convo, why doesnt he want to do it?
[01:21] <Brimstones> TomG: Yeah, but its pretty nice to have at times when the world crumbles :=)
[01:21] <joshdreamland> Anyone have a way to tell if the session I'm running from my USB is persistent?
[01:21] <Barnabas> how much space should be allokated is up to the windows system version
[01:21] <gcunha_> Please, i have a problem envolving security .....    http://pastebin.com/NFjSM65h
[01:21] <Barnabas> is it xp, vista or win7
[01:21] <TomG> Brimstones: Currency shall fall.  Barter is approaching.
[01:21] <dtminsk_> I have been having a ext4 not found error in 10.04 lts
[01:21] <harjot> Barnabas: i gave my xp install 10 gb
[01:22] <xomp> lol 10.04 lts
[01:22] <Brimstones> TomG: I mean more like "Kiss the snake, not so good if its a venomous one" :)
[01:22] <Barnabas> harjot, yes, but I feel that he is not quite comfortable with partitions, filesystems and boot sectors
[01:22] <zebastian> ok
[01:22] <zebastian> i am currently backing everything up
[01:22] <harjot> Barnabas: neither was i when i first tried
[01:22] <joshdreamland> Actually, I'm pretty sure it isn't. I've been trying for hours. Nothing I do will make this persistent.
[01:22] <zebastian> should take a couple of hours
[01:22] <harjot> Barnabas: I didnt even back up
[01:23] <Barnabas> harjot, zebastian has a spare backup drive
[01:23] <TomG> Brimstones: How's that saying go... Black on yellow, you're safe fellow, red on black, you're dead Jack
[01:23] <harjot> Barnabas: so he might as well
[01:23] <harjot> backup
[01:23] <Barnabas> usb
[01:23] <Barnabas> so lets backup :-)
[01:23] <Barnabas> just in case
[01:23] <zebastian> it says 15 hours
[01:23] <joshdreamland> I even wrote it from this Ubuntu box via "USB Startup Disk Creator"
[01:23] <harjot> Barnabas: yup but im lousy with backups :P
[01:23] <Thorax> TomG: still get the same error
[01:23] <Thorax> but i point it to the directory that has libflashplayer.so
[01:23] <TomG> Thorax: What's the error?
[01:23] <dtminsk_> Anyone know how to make the boot error "The disk drive for ext4 is not ready yet or not present" in 10.04
[01:24] <harjot> zebastian: which windows are you planning to install
[01:24] <xomp> dtminsk_, try #ubuntu+1
[01:24] <joshdreamland> Checked "persistent," specified size to set aside for it... Yet, as far as I can tell, it's not persistent.
[01:24] <glick> excuse me, whats the german ubuntu off-topic channel?
[01:24] <Barnabas> harjot, just a backup of /home/<user>
[01:24] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello, I am having trouble working with ecryptfs. Basically, a friend's hard drive failed, and I was able to recover most (the vast majority) of the data. I now have all of the relevant ecryptfs files from his machine. I am trying to mount his encrypted directory (I have his password) but I am unsure of the settings I need to use. This ecryptfs setup was created by the Ubuntu installer....
[01:24] <Rigorm0rtis> ...Basically, I need to know what settings the Ubuntu installer uses for ecryptfs. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:24] <Barnabas> a cp will suffice
[01:24] <harjot> yup
[01:24] <zebastian> so, Barnabas, after i backup what do i do? make a ntsf partition? then i stick the install windows cd on boot up and then what? i need a grub cd right?
[01:24] <Thorax> TomG: "Hulu Desktop could not locate the Flash plugin. If you already have it installed, please modify ~/.huludesktop with the correct location of libflashplayer.so"
[01:24] <Brimstones> TomG: Fork the spoon, Yellow belly once in a black moon.
[01:24] <Barnabas> zebastian, you need to:
[01:24] <zebastian> harjot:  i am planning to install windows 7
[01:24] <Thorax> TomG: and I do have it installed and working
[01:24] <glick> ?
[01:25] <harjot> zebastian: what you do then is the normal windos procedere then you need a ubuntu live cd
[01:25] <Barnabas> 1) backup your data from /home/<user>
[01:25] <Barnabas> 2) create a new file system as stated on the link I pasted
[01:25] <harjot> 3) install windows?
[01:25] <TomG> Thorax: find /usr/lib -name libflash*
[01:25] <Barnabas> by shrinking the existing linux one
[01:25] <Barnabas> 3) install windows right ...
[01:25] <harjot> 4) use the livecd to configure grub?
[01:26] <Barnabas> that will nuke completely your grub (boot strap) manager
[01:26] <Barnabas> 4) reinstate grub as your boot manager
[01:26] <Thorax> TomG:
[01:26] <Thorax> /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[01:26] <Thorax> /usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.1/program/libflashlx.so
[01:26] <Thorax> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[01:26] <Thorax> /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[01:26] <FloodBot1> Thorax: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:26] <glick> whats the german ubuntu off topic channel?
[01:26] <glick> how do i get there
[01:26] <Brimstones> Just the good Ol boys never meanin no harm....
[01:26] <Barnabas> zebastian, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[01:26] <Barnabas> windows WILL nuke grub
[01:26] <harjot> zebastian: yeah defintely use that
[01:26] <Pelo> glick, try asking the #ubuntu-de ppl
[01:26] <Barnabas> just the way it works I am afraid
[01:27] <CaptainTrek> where are the networking device names stored?
[01:27] <harjot> zebastian: windows is a pain to install and maintain
[01:27] <Brimstones> Windows is EVIL like that.
[01:27] <zebastian> ok
[01:27] <harjot> i agree.
[01:27] <Thorax> TomG: sorry, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/417876/p://past1
[01:27] <xomp> dtminsk_, try #ubuntu+1
[01:27] <zebastian> so once i reinstall grub
[01:27] <zebastian> none of my info will be lost
[01:27] <harjot> nope
[01:27] <zebastian> and my old settings for ubuntu hardy will be intact
[01:27] <zebastian> right?
[01:27] <xomp> also, please don't pm me
[01:27] <joshdreamland> Can I set a session as persistent after booting?
[01:27] <harjot> YeS
[01:27] <Brimstones> Maybe mister Bill-gates can fix this evil ?
[01:27] <fer1010> ALGUIEN ABLA ESPAÑOL
[01:27] <TomG> Thorax: Right, so you need to modify that config file to point to the libflashplayer.so
[01:27] <gingerheadman> hi. my friend just changed the owner of /bin, /boot, /etc, /lib, /media, /mnt, /opt, /root, /sbin, /selinux, /srv, /tmp, /usr and /var from root to his user. are there any problems with this?
[01:28] <harjot> zebastian: bootloader settings dont affect your files
[01:28] <harjot> zebastian: or settings
[01:28] <Brimstones> Love you Mr Thorax!
[01:28] <Barnabas> zebastian, in place of the windows boot loader you will see grub
[01:28] <Thorax> TomG: I have 3 of them and i tried each one to no avail. One more
[01:28] <fer1010> ALGUIEN ABLA ESPAÑOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
[01:28] <Barnabas> if you follow the howto, under grub there will be a boot windows option
[01:28] <Brimstones> SSHh
[01:28] <Pelo> !es | fer1010
[01:28] <zebastian> Barnabas: i dont have my ubuntu livecd
[01:28] <zebastian> Barnabas: that says stick the livecd in
[01:28] <fer1010> OK
[01:29] <Barnabas> zebastian, then you need to make one :-)
[01:29] <harjot> zebastian: yeah have you got one from the ubuntu site?
[01:29] <Barnabas> all you need is a blank cd media
[01:29] <ubuntu> Hello
[01:29] <ulises> flash for ubuntu?
[01:29] <zebastian> Barnabas: this wont erase any of my current ubuntu settings though will it? does it have to be the same boot cd? i am on hardy so i have to create a live cd for hardy?
[01:30] <Pelo> !flash | ulises
[01:30] <Barnabas> zebastian, you backed up your current drive right?
[01:30] <harjot> zebastian: Nothing in ubuntu or windows will be affected
[01:30] <Barnabas> then no data will be lost
[01:30] <TomG> Thorax: Is that Flash 10?
[01:30] <harjot> zebastian: unless you format the wrong drive
[01:30] <Thorax> TomG: yes
[01:30] <ulises> ok
[01:30] <zebastian> Barnabas: i backed up the files yes
[01:30] <zebastian> but i mean the ubuntu hardy installation itself
[01:30] <zebastian> i want it to remain intact
[01:30] <Thorax> TomG: also, tried the directories with the player libraries
[01:30] <ghysel> hi. how can i find out the type of my mounted drives?
[01:30] <harjot> zebastian: it will
[01:31] <ulises> jajaja
[01:31] <Thorax> TomG: and nothing, still the same error
[01:31] <Barnabas> harjot, exactly
[01:31] <zebastian> i dont want to have to reinstall ubuntu at all
[01:31] <harjot> zebastian: you wont need to
[01:31] <ulises> i need macromedia flash 8
[01:31] <Thorax> could it possibly be under lib64?
[01:31] <zebastian> so the livecd i have to get is hardy's? since i'm on hardy
[01:31] <CaptainTrek> is it possible to change the device names for networking cards?
[01:31] <harjot> zebastian: doesnt matter which one
[01:32] <Barnabas> zebastian, but if you are making a new one get the latest
[01:32] <harjot> zebastian: as long as you do the partitioning it doesnt really matter
[01:32] <Barnabas> harjot, agree
[01:32] <TomG> Thorax: I'm not sure about it.  I haven't tried Hulu desktop before.
[01:32] <zebastian> Barnabas: what do you mean get the latest? hardy uses a different grub than the new ubuntus
[01:32] <ghysel> anybody? how can i find out the type of my mounted drives?
[01:32] <TomG> Thorax: Are normal flash operations working in a web browser?
[01:32] <Barnabas> zebastian, grub is not the utility that partions your drive
[01:32] <Thorax> TomG: definitely
[01:33] <Barnabas> grub is a boot loader
[01:33] <harjot> zebastian: but when you run the grub setup for THAT partition it will pick your grub up
[01:33] <xomp> I have an external hdd I'm /thinking/ of installing ubuntu too. Can I do this without messing with my current Win7/OSX boot records? Like maybe install ubuntu's bootloader directly to the external?
[01:33] <hoctopus> DOES ANYBODY BESIDES ME THINK THAT WITH 1000'S OF APPLICATIONS IN THE UBUNTU SOFTWARE CENTER -DEPARTMENTS REPOSITORIES THAT MAYBE THESE PACKAGES OUGHT TO COME UP SORTED BASED ON POPULARITY OR USEFULNESS INSTEAD OF RANDOM OR ALPHABETICAL LIKE THEY ARE. THE LACK OF SORTING WITH SUCH A LARGE NUMBER OF PACKAGES GIVES A NEW LINUX USER A BAD IMPRESSION WHEN IT TAKES FOREVER TO FIND USEFUL PACKAGES AND THE SEARCH FUNCTION WHILE HELPFU
[01:33] <hoctopus> L FALLS QUITE SHORT. SORRY FOR BREAKING IN BUT I DONT KNOW THE BEST PLACE TO SAY THIS..
[01:33] <FloodBot1> hoctopus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:33] <Thorax> TomG: i can watch most of the videos without problems
[01:33] <joshdreamland> what is casper?
[01:33] <CaptainTrek> !caps | hoctopus
[01:33] <Barnabas> that is a small program that loads before any os(es)
[01:33] <zebastian> Barnabas: i know but i mean here it says run live cd http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[01:33] <harjot> zebastian: yeah to partition you must be on a separate drive
[01:34] <TomG> Thorax: Out of curiosity, what does the setting look like in the config file?
[01:34] <Barnabas> yes that may me for an older version but the info is still valid
[01:34] <Thorax> TomG: I appreciate you trying to help out.. I can't see what I'm doing wrong, this doesn't seem to be a problem for anyone
[01:34] <Barnabas> older version of ubuntu
[01:34] <Barnabas> it will still work with the newest one
[01:34] <harjot> agreed the instructions will still work
[01:34] <zebastian> Barnabas: what i mean is, that thing there assumes i have a livecd, so the livecd i should get is the one fro my version right
[01:34] <harjot> zebastian: doesnt matter
[01:35] <harjot> zebastian: if you want to be paranoid go ahead :P but doesnt matter
[01:35]  * Barnabas is born paranoid
[01:35] <harjot> ha
[01:35]  * Barnabas is born a bit crazy
[01:35] <TomG> Thorax:  Just downloaded and installed it.  Same error.
[01:35] <Barnabas> but harjot is correct
[01:36] <zebastian> harjot: there it says boot off the livecd, that means i will be putting in those commands from the live cd?
[01:36] <harjot> zebastian: all you have to doo is run those commands from thed terminal frmom the livecd
[01:36] <Brimstones> As i have been coding for 10 years after i first learnt to code C then GTK+ and a whole bunch of other languages i have concluded that any drug above -> hash is evil and shouldnt exist. Weaker things like Marijuana ive not decided on yet but feel its like beer or booze. 80% Strohrum booze is like Heroin so i think that and industrial booze should be illegal to drink as well. Because those will infact make you blind! :)
[01:36] <yacc> hoctopus, well, considering that I haven't yet switched my habits to aptitude, still using apt-get & companions, that does not sound that useful to me.
[01:36] <yacc> hoctopus, and it's rude to shout all caps all the time ;)
[01:36] <maco> Brimstones: um... think you could stay on topic? this is a support channel
[01:36] <maco> Brimstones: also, illegal drugs are offtopic even in our offtopic channels
[01:36] <Thorax> TomG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/417906/
[01:37] <zebastian> Barnabas: what sort of partition do i have to make for windows?
[01:37] <harjot> zebastian: ntfs
[01:37] <Thorax> TomG: see you can find some instructions in the Readme from the package installer
[01:37] <harjot> zebastian: or blank
[01:37] <Barnabas> zebastian, or blank
[01:37] <Barnabas> no file system
[01:37] <Brimstones> maco: No, drugs are crap
[01:37] <Thorax> TomG: which somewhat describes what to do
[01:37] <zebastian> harjot: but do ihave to assign it a name?
[01:37] <Barnabas> windows will format under installation
[01:37] <zebastian> or just create empty space?
[01:37] <harjot> zebastian: not really
[01:37] <harjot> exactly
[01:37] <maco> Brimstones: still offtopic for ubuntu channels
[01:38] <zebastian> so i just create empty space?
[01:38] <Thorax> TomG: but does not fix the problem, for me at least
[01:38] <harjot> zebastian: yes
[01:38] <xomp> I have an external hdd I'm /thinking/ of installing ubuntu too. Can I do this without messing with my current Win7/OSX boot records? Like maybe install ubuntu's bootloader directly to the external?
[01:38] <Barnabas> zebastian, does not really matter
[01:38] <harjot> zebastian: what barnabas said
[01:38] <harjot> zebastian: winddows will do its stuff later
[01:38] <Brimstones> maco: Show me how much you love drugs by getting me kicked then :)
[01:38] <Barnabas> and nuke your grub installation ....
[01:38] <Barnabas> they really ought to stop doing taht
[01:38] <Barnabas> that
[01:38] <harjot> zebastian: but if you want a slightly slightly quicker installation for windows then format it as ntfs now
[01:38] <TomG> Thorax: Let me see if I can get it working here.
[01:39] <maco> Brimstones: i'm asking you to keep on topic. that means either asking or answering ubuntu support questions
[01:39] <Thorax> TomG: Ok
[01:39] <zebastian> i ask because i dont get this Note that you should also verify that hd0,0 is the correct location for Windows. If you had installed Windows on the 4th partition on the drive, then you should change it to (hd0,3)
[01:39] <harjot> Barnabas: microsoft just want their things everywhere
[01:39] <Barnabas> well at least they could ask ...
[01:39] <Barnabas> "do you want to nuke your boot sector"
[01:40] <harjot> i know
[01:40] <gingerheadman> xomp: I know that if you already have Windows installed and you install ubuntu it will work perfectly and you will still be able to access Windows if you need to. Can't say anything about Mac OS X because I've never tried it.
[01:40] <harjot> they think the whole world uses windows
[01:40] <harjot> zebastian: where are the instructions?
[01:40] <zebastian> harjot: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[01:40]  * Barnabas on lavatory
[01:41] <harjot> zebastian: oh those
[01:41] <Flannel> Barnabas: Please help keep this channel ontopic.
[01:41] <zebastian> so Barnabas is irish
[01:41] <xomp> gingerheadman, cheers
[01:41] <gingerheadman> xomp, np
[01:41] <harjot> zebastian: all you do is do what it says i doubt you have another partiton
[01:41] <zebastian> well
[01:42] <zebastian> by default i will have another partition
[01:42] <harjot> zebastian: hd0,0 is the one you installed ubuntu on
[01:42] <zebastian> since i will keep this ubuntu install im on
[01:42] <harjot> zebastian: the first partition is ubuntu ?
[01:42] <harjot> zebastian: if so
[01:42] <techzg> I am using wubi to run Ubuntu 9.10 on D drive (1 GB).  I have a C drive with Windows Vista. I wanted to know if I can move my current Ubuntu, without losing any files to C drive, and retaining Windows Vista.
[01:42] <gingerheadman> xomp, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328 for info about duel-booting Mac OS X and Ubuntu
[01:42] <Brimstones> Flannel: Understand that what will be attractive to talk about is how other people do things, and what they think about.
[01:42] <harjot> zebastian: then follow exactly what it says
[01:42] <TomG> Thorax: Ok.  You need the full path to the libflashplayer.so, with a preceding npwrapper.
[01:42] <rfm> I swapped a new disk into my (root) md raid1 array a while ago, and just noticed I forgot to set up the boot sector.  I thought all I had to do was run grub from the running system, then root (hd0,1) and setup (hd1),  but grub doesn't think I have any disks at all (hittlng tab after "root (" shows nothing, "find /boot/grub/stage1" similary nothing.  Is there something obvious I need to do?  (SATA disks, on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.)
[01:43] <Flannel> Brimstones: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  If you want to be social, there are other channels for that, please utilize them.
[01:43] <TomG> Thorax: yours would be /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[01:43] <Thorax> TomG: but I don't use the wrapper.. i don't think. What exactly consitutes full path?
[01:44] <Brimstones> Flannel: Social and helping cant mean the same thing. Please chill for a bit Mr Flannel.
[01:44] <Thorax> TomG: let me check :)
[01:44]  * Barnabas back
[01:44]  * harjot wonders what the smell is
[01:44] <Thorax> TomG: still get the error
[01:44] <LuisV> hola buenas noches, como entro al canal en castellano?
[01:44] <Thorax> I literally pasted the line you gave me
[01:44] <Brimstones> You farted harjot ?
[01:44] <hoctopus> sorry!!!!! I spent 2 hours last night looking for basic software available and barely made a dent in the repository just trying to load up my system with the basic stuff that one would have wanted on a store shopping spree. anyways sorry for the caps lock being on. I've been using linux for 13 years and digging through massive repositories is a headache trait of linux. but then again nobody appreciated my pointing out the fedor
[01:44] <hoctopus> a security problem in 2008 either
[01:44] <Barnabas> harjot, be carefull or Flannel will spank you
[01:45] <harjot> Brimstones: barnabas went to the toilet
[01:45] <maco> Brimstones: last warning, social chat belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[01:45] <gingerheadman> LuisV: ubuntu-es
 gracias
[01:46] <harjot> zebastian: where are you on the process?
[01:46] <TomG> Thorax: That'd worked for me.  Maybe you could try what mine is because you also have it. /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[01:46] <Thorax> let me check the dir
[01:46] <techzg> I am using wubi to run Ubuntu 9.10 on D drive (1 GB).  I have a C drive with Windows Vista (499 GB). I wanted to know if I can move my current Ubuntu, without losing any files to C drive, and retaining Windows Vista.
[01:46] <zebastian> harjot: backing up
[01:46] <Barnabas> zebastian, way to go
[01:46] <StonedSlacker> Hey guys, how I would find out very specific hardware info such as the chipset of my internal wireless card in my laptop etc? I have entered the p/n on the compaq website but only got generic info about the network interfaces.
[01:47] <Barnabas> zebastian, real men dont backup, real men cry a lot
[01:47] <zebastian> Barnabas: so you are irish and itll take 36 hours it says
[01:47] <Monotoko> Barnabas, so true XD
[01:47] <Barnabas> zebastian, Im from Denmark ;-)
[01:47] <Barnabas> still a red head tough
[01:47] <Thorax> TomG: Tom, I don't have the wrapper for flash
[01:47] <Thorax> TomG: Are you using the 64 bit version of it?
[01:48] <zebastian> Barnabas: det er godt
[01:48] <zebastian> takk
[01:48] <TomG> Thorax: Yes.  I have 64bit flash 10.
[01:48] <zebastian> for hjelpe
[01:48] <Barnabas> zebastian, you are welcome but this channel is english
[01:48] <Thorax> TomG: the actual file, is it named with the wrapper?
[01:48] <Barnabas> other ppl may  benifit from keeping to english
[01:48] <Thorax> TomG: or is it something that you prefixed to make it work?
[01:48] <TomG> Thorax: No.  It's named libflashplayer.so.  Did you install flash manually?
[01:48] <Thorax> yes
[01:48] <kHiMzKie`> a
[01:49] <zebastian> ok
[01:49] <Thorax> TomG: yes
[01:49] <Barnabas> I belive this channel is transcriped somewhere
[01:49] <gingerheadman> techzg, I assume you want to create a second partition on the disk you currently use for windows vista. boot from the ubuntu cd, then click on System->Partition Editor. resize your 499GB partition and create a new ext4 partition in the free space
[01:49] <TomG> Thorax: And you followed the installation instructions by removing the flash plugin installer package?
[01:49] <Barnabas> online log or something
[01:49] <Monotoko> barnabad:  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[01:50] <Thorax> TomG: not sure if i did that
[01:50] <Monotoko> * Barnabas
[01:50] <techzg> gingerheadman: Not exactly.
[01:50] <karmic> Hi
[01:50] <Thorax> TomG: i have no idea what I did that day to remove flash :)
[01:50] <karmic> someone speak spanish?
[01:50] <techzg> gingerheadman: I would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same Drive: C
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> !sp | karmic
[01:51] <techzg> gingerheadman: is that possible
[01:51] <TomG> Thorax:  Here's the guide I used.  http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-ubuntu-64bit.html
[01:51] <gingerheadman> karmic: #ubuntu-es
[01:51] <karmic> hola
[01:51] <karmic> soy nuevo en ubuntu
[01:51] <Thorax> TomG: I will walk though it to see if I screwed something up
[01:51] <gingerheadman> techzg, well i don't think you can install ubuntu to an ntfs partition
[01:52] <zebastian> can someone help me check out if i have some system requirements for a future install?
[01:52] <karmic> necesito obtener ayuda para arreglar mi tarjeta wifi
[01:52] <Monotoko> gingerheadman...you can install it anywhere
[01:52] <Flannel> !es | karmic
[01:52] <gingerheadman> oh ok well i stand corrected then :P
[01:52] <zebastian> i need to have 1 GHz 32-bit processor DirectX 9 graphics processor with WDDM driver model 1.0 and 1 gb ram
[01:53] <techzg> Monotoko: Can you answer my question please?
[01:53] <Gowesty1990> soreau: hey how's it going
[01:54] <Monotoko> techzg, sorry i missed it, whats the q?
[01:54] <techzg> Monotoko: I am using wubi to run Ubuntu 9.10 on D drive (1 GB).  I have a C drive with Windows Vista (499 GB). I wanted to know if I can move my current Ubuntu, without losing any files to C drive, and retaining Windows Vista.
[01:55] <harjot> zebastian: sorry what wer you asking?
[01:55] <zebastian> i need to have 1 GHz 32-bit processor DirectX 9 graphics processor with WDDM driver model 1.0 and 1 gb ram
[01:55] <zebastian> how do i check if i have those
[01:55] <Flare-Laptop> DirectX 9 is winblows crap :/
[01:55] <Monotoko> techzg, one second
[01:56] <chrometiger> can u select specific files in nautilus like    hitting Ctrl+leftclick  in windows explorer
[01:56] <gingerheadman> chrometiger: yes you can
[01:56] <chrometiger> whats the hotkey?
[01:56] <UserA> I am trying to use the mini.iso but it does not detect my network card. Any suggestions ? I want to do a cli only installation.
[01:57] <Monotoko> techzg, can i PM you because this is going to take a bit of explaining?
[01:57] <zebastian> i am on a compaq presario cq40 laptop
[01:57] <Gowesty1990> Anyone good at getting commercial DVDs to play in Ubuntu?
[01:57] <techzg> Monotoko: sure
[01:57] <harjot> zebastian: im on a compaq presario c700
[01:57] <harjot> zebastian: doesnt it say on the back>
[01:57] <harjot> ?
[01:57] <zebastian> yes
[01:57] <zebastian> i mean
[01:57] <gingerheadman> chrometiger: if you want to select multiple files in nautilus you just hold control and left-click on the file
[01:57] <Brimstones> I suggest Futurama for myself. Thanks Myself. I love myself. Have a great time YA'll!!!
[01:58] <zebastian> how do i check if its windows 7 compatible
[01:58] <gonzalo> hi, is there a way to make the fn key work with ubuntu 9.10 in a laptop hp dv2842se?
[01:58] <chrometiger> hmm i have compiz set to that  no wonder
[01:58] <BluesKaj> zebastian, check in #windows
[01:59] <harjot> good idea
[01:59] <ghost> yo
[01:59] <gingerheadman> chrometiger, ah i see. compiz will override any other key bindings so you should see if you can change the compiz hotkey
[02:00] <Barnabas> zebastian, win7 will probably format your new partition
[02:00] <Barnabas> and select a suitable file system
[02:00] <ZykoticK9> Gowesty1990, i think you're out of luck for commercial DVDs until medibuntu is back online
[02:00] <UserA> Is there a cli only option with the alternate cd ?
[02:00] <Flannel> UserA: Yes, you have to hit f4 (or f5?) to choose it now though
[02:00] <harjot> zebastian: i would have thought windows 7 would be compatible if youy have enough ram and meet the reuirements
[02:01] <gcunha_> Please help me with a security question: http://pastebin.com/NFjSM65h
[02:01] <QazMan> which is the best web development ide on linux?
[02:01] <harjot> zebastian: otherwise setup would stop you
[02:01] <Thorax> TomG: I followed the instructions and I still get the error
[02:01] <Thorax> TomG: everything seems to work in firefox
[02:02] <Gowesty1990> ZykoticK9: There is no DVD support for Ubuntu?
[02:02] <kHiMzKie`> a
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> Gowesty1990, there is, but it relies of medibuntu which is currently not working https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> s/of/on
[02:02] <TomG> Thorax: Do you have nsplugginwrapper installed then?
[02:02] <Thorax> now I do
[02:03] <Thorax> TomG: now I do
[02:03] <zebastian> how do i check how much memory i havre
[02:03] <TomG> Thorax: And you ran those commands in the guide?  Also, you're using the config with npwrapper.libflashplayer.so, correct?
[02:03] <ZykoticK9> zebastian, free in a terminal
[02:03] <Thorax> TomG: No, not using the config
[02:03] <Thorax> TomG: Where can I find it?
[02:04] <TomG> Thorax: I meant in hulu.
[02:04] <Loki> Hallo. I am using an AO751h, with a GMA500, I am looking for drivers for my graphics card, but when I have searched I have only found them dating back to                                                                                                      akiniemi
[02:04] <Thorax> TomG: Yes, yes
[02:04] <Loki> Jaunty
[02:05] <Thorax> TomG: I had one issue when following the commands on the website
[02:05] <Monotoko> zebastian: system>administration>system monitor
[02:05] <Gowesty1990> ZykoticK9: are you talking about medibuntu.org?
[02:05] <TomG> Thorax: Have you tried running huludesktop from command line?  Maybe you'd get something more helpful there
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> Gowesty1990, yes - the web site is up, but the repo is down, thus you could infact download the libdvdcss2 package and install it - sorry forgot about that, too used to using apt to install things :)
[02:06] <Thorax> TomG: I get the same error from the terminal. The message I got earlier was "dante@ubuntu:/$ sudo nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[02:06] <Thorax> nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so"
[02:07] <Gowesty1990> ZykoticK9: I see what you mean, I found a package online to try but it is trying to connect to medibuntu.org but it is timing out
[02:07] <Thorax> TomG: but I went on with the rest of the commands, creating the links and everything
[02:07] <rxt0> Hi there, "I'm getting subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" after sudo dpkg -i  on a custom kernel image
[02:07] <TomG> Thorax: Go to private chat
[02:09] <izm_muh> hi every one
[02:09] <greezmunkey> rxt0: Hate to tell you custom kernel issues are not supported here. Did you try googling the error msg?
[02:09] <izm_muh> i have some question
[02:10] <rxt0> greezmunkey: oh, didn't know that, sorry, I'll search more
[02:11] <greezmunkey> rxt0: sorry man, good luck.
[02:11] <gusty> what are ways to determine why a wired connection always fails after a period of use? My wired connection only works again after I restart ubuntu. I've been using the same setup for about a year and it only happened recently
[02:11] <Gowesty1990> ZykoticK9: is there any other way to get it working?
[02:11] <gingerheadman> a friend of mine just told me he changed the owner of /bin, /boot, /etc, /lib, /media, /mnt, /opt, /root, /sbin, /selinux, /srv, /tmp, /usr and /var from root to his user. are there any problems with this?
[02:11] <ZykoticK9> Gowesty1990, not that i'm aware of -- just have to wait for medibuntu to come back online i'm affraid
[02:11] <gusty> I've tried restarting the driver for my ethernet card, but when I do that, eth0 disappears
[02:12] <Flannel> gingerheadman: It won't be a happy computer
[02:12] <greezmunkey> gusty: look in /var/log/syslog, to see if you can find a clue as to why. That's a start
[02:12] <rfm> gingerheadman: tell him to run "rm -f /" to check things out
[02:12] <gingerheadman> rfm, lol
[02:12] <Flannel> !danger
[02:13] <Flannel> rfm: Things like that are liable to get you banned
[02:13] <gusty> greezmunkey: what should I look for in the log?
[02:14] <gingerheadman> anyways, does anyone know what will actually happen if you set your user to own everything on the filesystem?
[02:15] <pzn> just upgraded from 9.4 to 9.10 and all network interfaces does not come up automatically. I had to do "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2; route add..." to be able to enter this chat... any hints?
[02:15] <greezmunkey> gusty: there is a time stamp on the entries, if you have an idea of the last time this occurred, you could start there. I can't tell you what to look for without knowing more about your system.
[02:15] <ZykoticK9> gingerheadman, why would you do that?  the system was NOT meant to be run that way.
[02:16] <greezmunkey> gusty: Except to say that I'd look for kernel error messages, anything that has to do with networking, etc.
[02:16] <CaptainTrek> gingerheadman: the system won't let you do that anyways.  there are protective measures in there that prevent it for some files
[02:16] <gusty> greezmunkey: OK i see
[02:17] <rumpsy> i need to add a job to anacrontab to stop internet access, howto?
[02:17] <gingerheadman> ZykoticK9: well he just installed lampp, which installs to /opt and he said he wanted a way to be able to change the files in /opt/lampp/htdocs (cause thats where lampp looks for php documents) so i told him how to use chown and then he did it to the whole filesystem :P
[02:17] <juan_> HABLAMOS
[02:18] <gingerheadman> CaptainTrek, he did say there were a few files that wouldn't change
[02:18] <ZykoticK9> gingerheadman, using lampp is also not such a great idea.   Why use 3rd party apps when everything is available from Ubuntu repos (other then lazyness)
[02:18] <t0bi> can anyone help?
[02:18] <pzn> network manager icon say "device is not manageable". how to fix this? just upgraded from 9.4 to 9.10
[02:19] <CaptainTrek> ginverheadman: his system might become fubar because of that, there is a LOT that you only want root to have access to and not the main user
[02:19] <gingerheadman> ZykoticK9, he had used xampp on windows so a suppose he just got lampp because he already knew how to use it
[02:19] <CaptainTrek> gingerheadman, see my last message there
[02:19] <ZykoticK9> pzn, you must have something specified in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:19] <t0bi> please?
[02:19] <ZykoticK9> t0bi, did you ask a question?
[02:20] <gingerheadman> CaptainTrek, thanks
[02:20] <harjot> zebastian: backup complete?
[02:20] <rfm> gingerheadman: the serious point of the evil command I (almost) posted is that running with the permissions set that way vastly increases the chance that an accidental error will have really nasty consequences.
[02:20] <t0bi> so uhh
[02:20] <t0bi> im having this blank screen problem when i boot up
[02:21] <t0bi> the screen suddenly goes black after i see the ubuntu logo
[02:21] <rumpsy> t0bi: blank screen means?, is that terminal?
[02:21] <pzn> ZykoticK9, so what type should I add "inet static", "inet dhcp", "inet manual"?
[02:21] <t0bi> blank screen as in the screen is displaying nothing but the color black
[02:21] <gingerheadman> rfm, yeah i get your point
[02:22] <rumpsy> there is difference between black screen and blank screen so you have to mention it exactly, t0bi
[02:22] <t0bi> ok. is there any way to fix this?
[02:22] <ZykoticK9> pzn, my /etc/network/interfaces file (with the cat command) http://paste.ubuntu.com/418051/
[02:23] <rumpsy> t0bi: its depends on your version of ubuntu, and graphics driver
[02:23] <t0bi> i have ubuntu 9.10 and im not so sure about the graphics driver
[02:23] <greezmunkey> pzn: insert a "#" in front of all lines except ones that have a "lo" in them. Then issue: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart from a terminal.
[02:23] <^Lem^> hi all. Where is the gapless audio CD burning feature in Brasero? burnt a CD yesterday, needed to be gapless, couldn't find the option. wasted a CD.
[02:24] <t0bi> i've looked at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen but I cant run any of the commands
[02:24] <pzn> ZykoticK9, greezmunkey: ok, I'll do it, however I'll lose connection with the channel... be back later
[02:24] <rumpsy> t0bi: did you made any changes like, updates, theme installations . . .
[02:24] <t0bi> nope
[02:25] <rumpsy> t0bi: try this key combination to get terminal, alt+ctrl+f1
[02:25] <t0bi> do i have to be logged in for this key combination to work?
[02:25] <rumpsy> nah
[02:25] <bris> how do i get back ALT+CTRL+BACKSPACE combination?
[02:26] <ZykoticK9> !dontzap | bris
[02:26] <clarkb> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:26] <rumpsy> bris ^^
[02:27] <t0bi> so what commands do i enter after terminal is opened
[02:27] <bris> got it
[02:27] <bris> :)
[02:28] <winterweaver> If i want to backup my private and public keys, is it safe to do so via the export under Accessories >> Password and Encryption Keys?
[02:29] <rumpsy> t0bi: dmseg /var/log/xorg.0.log
[02:29] <rumpsy> t0bi: check what happened and fix it with new xorg.conf
[02:30] <t0bi> im currently running livecd on my only computer which has the blank screen problem, so i cant really enter any commands D: what exactly should i be checking for
[02:32] <rumpsy> t0bi: then i donno, this shall be hardware problem, which means driver problem
[02:33] <t0bi> rumpsy: is there anything else i can try?
[02:33] <pzn> ZykoticK9, greezmunkey: network is working now. thanks. however, everytime I download a big file, the wireless connection drops and then comes back after 1/2 a minute... what could be this?
[02:34] <xiofire> Hey all. On localhost, I'm trying to get .htaccess to work. In /etc/apache2/sites-available/default I changed AllowOverride None to AllowOverride All and restarted apache. When I have a non empty .htaccess document, with even "RewriteEngine On" I get a 500 internal server error. Am I missing something?
[02:34] <rumpsy> t0bi: try cd on different machines, if it works, then problem may be on your hardware driver on other computer
[02:36] <t0bi> :rumpsy well I've been running ubuntu for a few months now so im pretty sure its not a hardware driver
[02:36] <ku> please, help me: how can i look name of driver for usb-device, that is using. For PCI i get this information with "lspci -v". And usb?
[02:36] <Geekthras> ...huh. /usr/bin/xfce4-volumed seems to be using 60% of my cpu. is this my volume control daemon?
[02:36] <rww> ku: lsusb
[02:37] <geekphreak> hhi all
[02:37] <Gaming4JC> hey all, I have a program inside of wine which is making the entire system lock up. Anyway I can get to a terminal when my keyboard and mouse get locked up hard? :s
[02:37] <Gaming4JC> It's very odd...
[02:37] <rww> Gaming4JC: does Ctrl-Alt-F1 work?
[02:37] <ku> lcusb (lsusb -v) - tell me about "bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class"
[02:37] <Gaming4JC> hmm I tried Alt+Backspace, I'll try Ctrl+Alt+F1 next time
[02:38] <ku> It is not driver name)
[02:38] <geekphreak> hi rww
[02:38] <rumpsy> brb
[02:38] <freez> help! how do i reset all pulseaudio options
[02:38] <stephen> oie
[02:38] <kalipus>   Gaming4JC u can access the shells through alt + strg +f1-f6
[02:38] <rww> Gaming4JC: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is disabled by default in recent Ubuntu versions, you'd need to re-enable it to use it
[02:38] <rww> ubottu: dontzap | Gaming4JC
[02:38] <kalipus> f7 is the graphical interface
[02:38] <kalipus> f9 restarts the graphical interface
[02:38] <kalipus> just to let u know
[02:38] <Gaming4JC> cool ok
[02:39] <Gaming4JC> thanks :)
[02:39] <Guest81364> this is a bunch of bullshit
[02:39] <freez> help! how do i reset all pulseaudio options
[02:39] <ku> rww:  lcusb (lsusb -v) - tell me about "bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class"
[02:39] <rww> Guest81364: watch your language, please
[02:39] <Guest81364> how do i register my name?
[02:39] <geekphreak> Guest81364: watch language plz
[02:39] <rww> ubottu: register | Guest81364
[02:39] <rww> ku: okay, and?
[02:39] <hackNperl1> I own a small business.  I use MyInvoices & Estimates.  I would like to use an old PC to install Ubuntu and run VirtualBox with winxp in it so I can run the invoice program in virtual box.  Is it possible to RDP or VNC this winxp virtual machine from any PC and have me and my father or another employee be logged into the virtual machine at thew same time?  Anyone have a better solution?
[02:39] <freez> help! how do i reset all pulseaudio options
[02:39] <Guest81364> what is the line between register and guest
[02:39] <IdleOne> !patience | freez
[02:39] <ku> rww: it is not driver's name)
[02:40] <Gaming4JC> why did they disable ctrl+alt+backspace ... o_O
[02:40] <IdleOne> Gaming4JC: alt+sysrq+k
[02:40] <Guest81364> |
[02:40] <Guest81364> |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
[02:40] <Gaming4JC> sysrq = Windows key?
[02:40] <Guest81364> register | inyour
[02:40] <rww> Gaming4JC: because it was annoying new users
[02:40] <^b0ss^> hey all
[02:40] <^b0ss^> hope everyone is doing wel
[02:40] <rww> Gaming4JC: no, it's usually located on the PrintScreen key
[02:40] <IdleOne> Gaming4JC: the print screen k
[02:40] <^b0ss^> well
[02:40] <IdleOne> key*
[02:40] <Gaming4JC> ook...
[02:40] <zen933k> Guest81364, read the connection on how to register
[02:41] <geekphreak> IdleOne: for some reason it dont work here :(
[02:41] <IdleOne> geekphreak: what won't work?
[02:41] <geekphreak> IdleOne: alt+sysreq+k
[02:41] <IdleOne> geekphreak: install dontzap
[02:41] <rww> ku: You asked for an equivalent for usb to lspci. That's what it is...
[02:41] <RedXIII`Alt> How can I get ubuntu to turn off my monitor when I'm not using it?
[02:42] <RedXIII> Note: I'm using a laptop.
[02:42] <geekphreak> IdleOne:  ok will do thank you
[02:42] <rww> Probably best to just re-enable ctrl-alt-backspace than use alt-sysrq-k. The latter is a little messy.
[02:42] <IdleOne> !dontzap > geekphreak
[02:42] <rww> (though it's useful the first time it happens before you realize you need to re-enable ctrl-alt-backspace ;)
[02:42] <hackNperl1> Can I use VirtualBox installed on Ubuntu to run multiple virtual machines at the same time?
[02:42] <geekphreak> rww:  i did like ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:42] <zen933k> RedXIII, you'll find it under power management in system settings
[02:42] <ku> rww: no. i want to no, how to show name of driver for usb device
[02:42] <IdleOne> geekphreak: see the link from ubottu
[02:43] <geekphreak> IdleOne: i sure do thanks mate :)
[02:43] <ku> to know
[02:43] <IdleOne> :)
[02:43] <RedXIII> zen933k: I have "Put display to sleep when inactive for:..." and left it alone for 5 minutes.
[02:43] <RedXIII> Display is still lit up
[02:43] <RedXIII> albiet it shows a black screen, but the LED is still on.
[02:44] <rww> ku: ah. I have no idea.
[02:44] <Gaming4JC> rww: What's the best method to get a readout of the crash, I want to report a bug to wine but X-server dies before I can get to it.
[02:44] <w_> i am a newer
[02:44] <rww> Gaming4JC: no idea. The people in #winehq might know.
[02:44] <SpenserJ> Does anyone know for sure if there is a solution for the year 2038 bug, or are we relying on the fact that 32bit will be dead and gone by then? A buddy is freaking at me, and wants a source for it being fixed :P
[02:45] <Monotoko_Sleep> SpenserJ, i think were assuming 32bit will be gone
[02:45] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis: howdy
[02:45] <zoopZoO> first bit of that iv heard SpenserJ  o_o
[02:45] <zen933k> SpenserJ, the only real issue would be imbedded systems that are harder to update, I'm sure there would be only a few in use.
[02:45] <zoopZoO> prob like the 2k bug aload of bollox ;)
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Moo to You geekphreak .
[02:45] <timClicks> can I tell apt-get to install suggested packages with a command line switch?
[02:45] <Monotoko_Sleep> zoopzo0, its when the time on a 32bit system cant add anymore
[02:46] <Monotoko_Sleep> and resets to 0
[02:46] <Monotoko_Sleep> ie: 1/1/1970
[02:46] <SpenserJ> Haha yeah, thats what I figured guys. Been trying to find anything related to it in the unix source (or even anything *nix related), but there are a heck of a lot of updates to it :P
[02:46] <garrett_> I'm sick of looking at "54GB Filesystem", is there a way to rename it?
[02:46] <zoopZoO> yeh
[02:46] <zoopZoO> Monotoko_Sleep:
[02:46] <zoopZoO> the same with the 2k bug..
[02:46] <Monotoko_Sleep> garett_...just right click it
[02:46] <SpenserJ> I figured everyone relied on 32bit being ancient by then, so I'll tell him that all of you geniuses agreed :D
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> garrett_:  set a actual Label on the filesystem  so it has a 'name'  i belive.
[02:46] <SpenserJ> Thanks guys
[02:46] <zen933k> timClicks, Which packages are you looking for? ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[02:46] <demism> how do you remove a package you installed, its dependencies and any directories it created? Also, know of any hacks I can run when installing a package to keep all that info handy or is there a log kept?
[02:46] <Geekthras> Monotoko_Sleep: wouldn't it flop over to some time in 1902?
[02:46] <kalipus> garrett_: mark an press f2, does it work?
[02:46] <zoopZoO> SpenserJ: u on 9.10?
[02:46] <zoopZoO> should i put beta on ? :D
[02:47] <SpenserJ> 10.04 on my desktop, but I use a macbook :P
[02:47] <Monotoko_Sleep> Geekthras, the 32bit counter starts 1/1/1970
[02:47] <Geekthras> though actually, the 2038 bug has caused issues already
[02:47] <zoopZoO> i had a hackintosh
[02:47] <garrett_> so adding a label throug gparted will do it?
[02:47] <zoopZoO> for about 6months
[02:47] <zoopZoO> not bad.. :p
[02:47] <SpenserJ> Both of which run 64bit, and I am assuming it uses int64 for that
[02:47] <Wings> Hey guys.
[02:47] <SpenserJ> zoopZoO: Definitely put 10.04 on. It is awesome
[02:47] <Wings> So uh, I know there's naturally going to be cries of "Oh, evil!"
[02:47] <zoopZoO> i might do it now
[02:47] <Geekthras> Monotoko_Sleep: 2^31 seconds = 68 years
[02:47] <zoopZoO> i was messing around with sabayon
[02:47] <Wings> uh... wait, never mind. wrong channel.
[02:47] <zoopZoO> gentoo based.. but it seems to hard for me :p
[02:48] <SpenserJ> zoopZoO: A little bit buggy still, but for the most part it is quite stable. Random crashes occur (or so it says) but I haven't had an app actually crash in weeks
[02:48] <Geekthras> therefore, since teh bug is at 2038, not 2106, it's signed
[02:48] <zoopZoO> sounds goods
[02:48] <rww> timClicks: sudo apt-get -o APT::Install-Suggests=true install packagenamehere
[02:48] <Geekthras> so a signed 32 bit integer would flop over to -68 years and change
[02:48] <zoopZoO> nautilus2?
[02:48] <timClicks> zen933k: no, just in general.. e.g. for sudo apt-get install inkscape, I would like apt to install its suggested packages too, e.g. dia dia-gnome libsvg-perl libxml-xql-perl skencil ttf-dejavu pstoedit imagemagick-doc python-lxml-dbg python-numpy-doc
[02:49] <timClicks> rww: ty
[02:49] <Monotoko_Sleep> Geekthras, you just outgeeked me -.-
[02:49] <Geekthras> \o/
[02:49] <rww> timClicks: test it and let me know if it doesn't work
[02:49] <Brimstones> I Just love the GAdmintools. I waant moooore! :)
[02:50] <kalipus> timClicks: use aptitude
[02:50] <zoopZoO> whats that all about Brimstones ?
[02:50] <gdewald> lol a new 54GB Filesystem appeared
[02:50] <demism> Does all the ubuntu configuration parallel that of debian's?
[02:51] <Monotoko_Sleep> gdewald -starts pokemon battle music-
[02:51] <rww> demism: depends on the package. A lot of the time, yes.
[02:51] <Brimstones> sulphuric dioxide is == Car battery Acid, burns up lung tissue
[02:51] <gdewald> umount I choose you!
[02:51] <rww> ubottu: offtopic
[02:51] <gdewald> it's super-effective
[02:52] <zoopZoO> how u know that Brimstones ?
[02:52] <Brimstones> wikipedia
[02:52] <gdewald> xchat-gnome is weird, I'm gonna go switch back to the normal x-chat
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> gdb:  most people do
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> oops le left too soon. :)
[02:52] <zoopZoO> i like irssi
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> zoopZoO:  test out WeeChat someday if you perfer text based
[02:53] <zoopZoO> or xchat is neat
[02:53] <sazanami> irssi's good
[02:53] <zoopZoO> weechat?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> Yes 'weechat' ;)
[02:53] <zoopZoO> might doo :p ty
[02:53] <zoopZoO> im in need some some better "cli" mp3 player?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> 10.04 has newer version. You def want the newer versions.
[02:53] <zoopZoO> atm i have mocp
[02:54] <gogeta1> Dr_Willis: you missed the fun yesterday had to teach a new server user the power of bash
[02:54] <geekphreak> IdleOne: rww yup works now thank you guys
[02:54] <Capt_Blackwood> for those seeking 10.04 LTS help, please go to #ubuntu+1
[02:54] <zoopZoO> how did u go about that gogeta1 ? ;p
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> gogeta1:  thats when i normally tell them to go read a guide.. and come back in an hr or 2
[02:54] <gogeta1> zoopZoO: just showing what bash can do
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> gogeta1:  yet they rarely ever do that...
[02:55] <zoopZoO> i might step into that power of bash world one day :p
[02:55] <Brimstones> gdewald: jup, sick crap tjat only some usless moron would code, because why try to write something to call the original GOOD product bad ?
[02:55] <zoopZoO> just still getting to grips with ubuntu lol
[02:55] <zoopZoO> been windows abuser for years..
[02:55] <gogeta1> Dr_Willis: well the apps and stuff for it you knoe mplayer fb mode links2 -g mode
[02:55] <Capt_Blackwood> zoopZo0, we were all noobs at one point
[02:55] <IdleOne> geekphreak: good to know :)
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> gogeta1:  dont forget mplayer -vo asciiart  :) or whatver that command was.. :)
[02:56] <zoopZoO> yeh that rocks Dr_Willis :D
[02:56] <gogeta1> Dr_Willis: he was comparing it to dos lol
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> gogeta1:  yep. thats when you start pointing to the guides..
[02:57] <zoopZoO> Capt_Blackwood: yeh cheers :P
[02:57] <gogeta1> Dr_Willis: well in 2 hrs i probly tought him more then 4 years on collage lol
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> gogeta1:  had to teach severl people at work.. 'forget your dos....'
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> forget your bad dos habbits...
[02:57] <Brimstones> Suckama-Balls :)
[02:57] <gogeta1> Dr_Willis: yep bash has alot more power if you unlock it
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> gogeta1:  for a total beginner that 'fish' shell is also handy.. but then they dotn learn bash
[02:58] <Capt_Blackwood> gogeta1, 2 days here i learned more than the college profs would have taught in a bachlors problem
[02:58] <gogeta1> Dr_Willis: i prefer mc
[02:58] <zoopZoO> haha
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> That must mean a actual book on bash = PHD in Bashology
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> gogeta1:  anotehr must learn about tool, mc, :)
[02:59] <Hariharakadan> That sounds like a must have degree. :)
[02:59] <Hariharakadan> 'ello folks.
[02:59] <zoopZoO> mc?
[02:59]  * geekphreak likes bashing
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> !info mc
[02:59] <Brimstones> Capt_Blackwood: Are you always this sharp Mr Wood+
[02:59] <zoopZoO> ah
[02:59] <Brimstones> :))))))))))
[02:59] <zoopZoO> yeh i know it :p
[02:59] <tomato> what's a good naming convention for mounted disks?
[03:00] <zoopZoO> just making sure isnt that replaced nowdays?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> tomato:  somthing without spaces. :)
[03:00] <Capt_Blackwood> Brimstone, nah...I've been here 5 months and i'm still learning
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> tomato:  and makes sence..
[03:00] <tomato> Dr_Willis: thanks! what do you use?
[03:00] <Brimstones> Wow, thats what i call real wood :P
[03:00] <gogeta1> Dr_Willis: well only thing i couldent get him was he whanted a file editor simpelr to dos edit i coulent find only nano cam the cloest
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> tomato:  Videos1000  PegsVideos  VacationVideos  TorrentFiles    :)
[03:00] <gogeta1> simler
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> gogeta1:  there used to be one out about identical to edit.. but   if you want that  pathic a editor.. may as well use nano
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> gogeta1:  theres 'fte' thats very very very good for the console only.
[03:01] <tomato> Dr_Willis you use camel case! I see, thank you!
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[03:02] <zoopZoO> whats the best mp3 player for the terminal?
[03:03] <Brimstones> +10
[03:03] <Gnea> !best | zoopZoO
[03:03] <gogeta> heh nick finnly stoped ghosting
[03:03] <Gnea> hrm
[03:03] <geekphreak> zoopZoO: nothing like best, choose what fits you
[03:03] <zoopZoO> !fail Gnea
[03:03] <zoopZoO> hrmmm
[03:03]  * Gnea looks at zoopZoO 
[03:03] <gogeta> zoopZoO: only app i know of i mplayer
[03:03] <gogeta> is
[03:04] <zoopZoO> well okay let me rephrase that for you guys
[03:04] <beerman> need help setting up networking with windows 7 please
[03:04] <Gnea> 21:03 <ubottu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in  the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[03:04] <CaptainTrek> !ot | beerman
[03:04] <zoopZoO> whats The easiest to edit and modify?
[03:04] <gogeta> zoopZoO: mplayer work in bash or ui
[03:04] <Capt_Blackwood> there should be a #windows channel, i think
[03:04] <mouse_> I don't have a technical question but I do have a question concerning Ubuntu all the same.  With the windows community being what it is(viruses, hijacks, rootkits, people intentially giving bad advice like, "delete system32 to make your computer faster"), wouldn't it be a bad thing if more people were switching to linux?
[03:04] <Gnea> Capt_Blackwood: there is
[03:05] <Capt_Blackwood> ok then
[03:05] <gogeta> zoopZoO: even can do video in term if you have fb mode on
[03:05] <zoopZoO> video?
[03:05] <zoopZoO> yh
[03:05] <ZykoticK9> mouse_, such questions are best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic -- this is a support only channel
[03:05] <zoopZoO> might have to give that ago
[03:05] <zoopZoO> iv had it with acssi but not full video lol
[03:05] <Gnea> zoopZoO: mpg123 works fine
[03:06] <zoopZoO> ascii*
[03:06] <gogeta> zoopZoO: best to enable mediabuntu for mplayer so you get all the codecs
[03:06] <mouse_> ZykoticK9, Sorry.  Didn't know where to go.
[03:06] <gogeta> zoopZoO: if you plan on doing wmv or real media
[03:06] <zoopZoO> i got some cool script from gnome-look for a animated desktop
[03:06] <zoopZoO> kinda nice.. just hard to find more video clips to play
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> gogeta, zoopZoO except medibuntu is currently not working :(  https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810
[03:07] <adalal> hey, anyone here knows how to use dhcpd? i'm tryign to create a pool of static IPs, but i need to set just one MAC address to not use a gateway, is that possible?
[03:07] <gogeta> ZykoticK9: i used it yesterday
[03:07] <HealingDruid1> hello, room, how do i go about calling a program that was daemonized?
[03:07] <Gnea> !info mpg321
[03:07] <zoopZoO> yeh i noticed that ZykoticK9
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> gogeta, try it today
[03:07] <Gnea> HealingDruid1: 'calling'?
[03:07] <zoopZoO> mine was sticking on 99% on update
[03:07] <HealingDruid1> as in i want to bring it forward again and not bring up another instance of the program
[03:07] <zoopZoO> thought id broke it heh
[03:08] <gogeta> ZykoticK9: look at the bug furter down they changed to lucid aruldy
[03:08] <HealingDruid1> Gnea: do you know?
[03:08] <gogeta> ZykoticK9: why it worked for me i guess
[03:08] <Gnea> HealingDruid1: you really don't, unless you used it on the commandline with &
[03:08] <HealingDruid1> hm
[03:08] <Gnea> HealingDruid1: in which case, fg would be used
[03:08] <HealingDruid1> hm
[03:09] <HealingDruid1> thank you Gnea appreciate the help
[03:09] <Gnea> ubottu hates me
[03:09] <Losha> HealingDruid1: which daemon?
[03:09] <Gnea> HealingDruid1: cheers
[03:09] <gogeta> Gnea: it hates us all
[03:09] <tomato> is there a command line copy command that displays progress?
[03:09] <Gnea> gogeta: I'm guessing someone went and abused it too much
[03:09] <Losha> tomato: rsync --progress....
[03:09] <tomato> wicked, thanks Losha
[03:10] <astro11> hey there, how can I install a 32-bit software in my Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit? ia32-libs already installed.
[03:10] <gogeta> astro11: should install then
[03:11] <fbianconi> astro11: it depends on what are you trying to install
[03:11] <ZykoticK9> astro11, if it a binary software or a library you're trying to install?
[03:11] <tomato> rsync totally rocks!
[03:11] <tomato> thanks again Losha
[03:11] <astro11> gogeta, the deb package installer gives me an error telling it's the wrong architecture
[03:11] <astro11> it's just skype 32-bit
[03:11] <ZykoticK9> astro11, --force-architecture i believe
[03:11] <fbianconi> try --force-architecture
[03:13] <zen933k> astroll, skype has a 64-bit build...any reason why you wouldn't use that?
[03:14] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello guys
[03:15] <kman> Hello all first time in Ubuntu IRC.  Is this a good place to get questions answered?
[03:15] <fbianconi> astro11, sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture <pkg.deb>
[03:15] <astro11> trying it, just a sec fbianconi, ZykoticK9
[03:15] <zen933k> kman, certainly a good place to get info.
[03:15] <geekphreak> kman: go ahead ask, if someone can they will help :)
[03:15] <astro11> zen933k, skype 64-bit is crashin a lot here
[03:16] <kman> Ubuntu update issue. I had ubunto 8.? installed and running. Upgraded to 8.10(?) OK and then decided to upgrade to 9.04. It hung and now when I start up I can login but then just get a blank screen. Any suggestions?
[03:16] <kman> NO I did not back up before the upgrade.
[03:17] <ChogyDan> kman: can you get to a terminal?  ctrl+alt+f1 or something
[03:17] <fbianconi> kman, can you swithc to a text console?
[03:17] <ubuntu> holaaaaa
[03:17] <astro11> thanks guy, it worked!
[03:17] <ubuntu> need help with this..
[03:18] <fbianconi> astro11, good to know
[03:18] <ChogyDan> kman: ctrl+alt+f7 to get back!
[03:18] <zen933k> ChogyDan, it may be too late :S
[03:19] <c0vert> well, just boot the livecd and recover your files..
[03:19] <kman> OK I just started it up and It stops at the username login screen.  I did see the Grub loading, and the press ESC to .. and the the username prompt.
[03:20] <khalid-linux> como entarar a la sala de espnoles
[03:20] <gdewald> debian users are jerks...
[03:20] <kman> I have always gone into the windowed interface and then selected a command window.
[03:20] <fbianconi> khalid-linux /join #ubuntu-es
[03:20] <khalid-linux> gracias
[03:21] <kman> I will try ctrl alt f7 and see what happens.
[03:21] <Gnea> gdewald: tell us something we don't know
[03:21] <gdewald> If I label a partition in Ubuntu, will it mess it up for my dual-booted Win7?
[03:21] <khalid-linux> #ubutu - es
[03:21] <Gnea> gdewald: don't see why it would
[03:22] <gdewald> I really hope not. I really don't want to reinstall windows...
[03:22] <kman> ctrl alt f7  - no response.
[03:22] <gdewald> not that I will have to, but you never know
[03:22] <zen933k> gdewald: So long as it isn't the Win7 boot partition...that thing is deadly
[03:23] <geekphreak> kman: do you get any error messages?
[03:23] <zen933k> kman: at the login screen does it gives you options to the desktop you want to log into eg. Gnome, xterm, KDE
[03:23] <Gnea> gdewald: as long as you're not changing the label on the windows partition, it should be fine
[03:23] <arborius> I'm installing 9.1 on my vista laptop. I created partitions for ubuntu and swap with live gparted. I need clarification with manual selection of partitions. I chose the two partitions to be used as ext3 and swap, mounting at "/". I left the vista partition alone. Is this what I want to do to install ubuntu onto the secondary partition and leave vista alone,  and have grub replace windows bootloader?
[03:23] <xorwhy> what are map registers?
[03:23] <Gnea> er, yeah, what zen933k said too lol, I'm a little slow
[03:24] <maco> arborius: you got it!
[03:24] <gdewald> the problem is, I'm trying to rename the filesystems because I'm kinda sick of the "XXGB Filesystem" names
[03:24] <zen933k> Gnea: I'm a netbook user but I'm pretty sure default gnome gives the xterm option?
[03:24] <Gnea> zen933k: pretty sure too, yeah
[03:24] <ChogyDan> kman: try f1 - f6.  f7 is to get back
[03:24] <geekphreak> arborius: yes sir
[03:24] <kman> NO error message and none of the ctrl alt numbers does anything.
[03:24] <gdewald> I understand you have to unmount the partitions to do that, right?
[03:25] <kman> I can enter in a username and it then prompts for password and when I do that it then goes to a blank screen.
[03:25] <Gnea> kman: for all accounts?
[03:25] <kman> I could try at that point to enter the ctrl alt 7.  One moment please
[03:25] <ChogyDan> kman: so, ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt bring you to a black screen with text?
[03:26] <zen933k> kman: when you boot your computer up does grub give you the option to boot into recovery mode?
[03:26] <kman> When I boot up there is some options that I have never tried.  I can explore those.
[03:27] <zen933k> kman: Sure, I take it you're not on the machine that has the issue?
[03:27] <kman> I have not tried all accounts.  I only have root and one user with root privaleges.
[03:27] <rafaelsoaresbr> Please help me with this instalation issue: http://pastebin.com/nUrJh3R8
[03:27] <kman> No I am not on the problem machine.  I have to switch back and forth.  KVM.
[03:28] <Gnea> kman: if you can get into recovery mode, see if you can create a new user with the adduser command, then reboot and try logging in with that
[03:28] <zen933k> kman: grub will have the first selection as your default Ubuntu boot, but right below it it will have an option for recovery usually
[03:28] <kman> OK I'll see what happens during a restart and see if I can get into recovery.
[03:31] <timhaines> Hey guys.  I'm trying to adjust the limit of open files in Ubuntu Hardy.  The things I'm reading and trying aren't working
[03:31] <timhaines> I've tried setting limits in /etc/security/limits.conf
[03:31] <timhaines> when I sudo -i I can set ulimit -n 4096 - but I can't do that if I don't sudo
[03:32] <timhaines> I get the error "-bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted"
[03:32] <kman> Sorry for the delay.  I could not do anything but get to the username prompt.  However at this point there is an options at the bottom left.  I click on that and i get the choose session and in here there is an option to run fail safe Gnome.
[03:32] <timhaines> Does anyone know what I'm missing to be able to do this as a normal user?
[03:32] <un214> cowbells?
[03:32] <kman> I can try that and see what happens.
[03:33] <ivan_> soporte en español?
[03:33] <Gnea> kman: try it
[03:33] <mc_> timhaines permissions?
[03:33] <NeedleInYourArms> so i installed kubuntu today and i noticed that my laptop is constantly running on high  gear and i also have a cooling fan any ideas?
[03:33] <timhaines> mc_: could you elabortate?
[03:33] <ivan_> alguien ke me diga como entrar al canal en español???
[03:33] <ZykoticK9> !es | ivan_
[03:33] <NeedleInYourArms> laptop fan*
[03:34] <un214> well it failed to detect your motherboard well enough to enable APM maybe
[03:34] <mc_> well you can't modify system files without elevated privileges. That's normal behavior
[03:34] <timhaines> mc_: How do I set the default higher than 1024 then?
[03:34] <NeedleInYourArms> how would i go about fixing it?
[03:35] <un214> !
[03:35] <kman> ok well that generated an error message on the top right indicating there was an install problem.  Something to do with power management was not installed correctly.  Then I get the blank screen with no response.
[03:35] <mc_> well open the file with root privileges (sudo or logon as root , modify the file, safe and exit)
[03:36] <isaac_> Please forgive me if this is a stupid question.  Is there any way to take part of a big (bit torrent) file that one bit torrent client has started and give it to another client to finish?
[03:36] <timhaines> mc_:  I've done that for the config files that set the nofile limits.  I'm just trying to run the ulimit command here
[03:36] <zen933k> kman: you said you got the the username promp, does it give an options for xterm?
[03:36] <nyhcjedi> is thier a type of "Device manager" in ubuntu?
[03:36] <mc_> well sudo ulimit then
[03:36] <kman> Only way to get out of this appears to be to manually.
[03:37] <almoxarife> isaac_: just stop the d/l and restart with the new client
[03:37] <kman> Xterm may have been one of the options.  I'll have to restart and see.
[03:37] <David-A> isaac_: yes, it should be, just stop the 1st torrent client, start the 2nd client and give it the same torrent file and the same download folder.
[03:37] <zen933k> kman: that or get the root with networking option from the recovery menu
[03:38] <zen933k> kman: can you make yourself a live-cd of 9.10?
[03:38] <zen933k> kman: or live usb?
[03:38] <isaac_> Unetbootin!
[03:39] <David-A> isaac_: clients usually look for what already exists, and then verify how much of it matches the hashes in the torrent file.
[03:39] <NeedleInYourArms> so anyone know what i can do to fix it?
[03:40] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: What's the laptop?
[03:40] <rafaelsoaresbr> please help me: http://pastebin.com/nUrJh3R8
[03:40] <harjot> zebastian: are you done?
[03:40] <kman> OK rebooted and I do have a text console.
[03:40] <NeedleInYourArms> umm toshiba satellite l305
[03:40] <NeedleInYourArms> L305*
[03:40] <zebastian> nope 38 hours left to backup 80 gb
[03:40] <nyhcjedi> Hello all is there a way to see what hardware is installed in my ubuntu machine? Similar to windows "device manager"
[03:40] <Gnea> rafaelsoaresbr: why install grub to /dev/sda7 and not /dev/sda?
[03:41] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: Yeah, reading about toshi's having fan issues...
[03:41] <kman> Would the live 9.10 be easier to get the system up and running?
[03:41] <zen933k> kman: It may, I've never done a new install ontop on an old where files would be recovered.
[03:41] <NeedleInYourArms> this is my first time on any actually linux os as wall
[03:41] <IdleOne> nyhcjedi: install hardinfo
[03:41] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: Give me a minute to see what I can dig up
[03:41] <nyhcjedi> free software from manager?
[03:41] <rafaelsoaresbr> Gnea, I am using a third party boot loader
[03:42] <NeedleInYourArms> thank you zen933k lol
[03:42] <Gnea> rafaelsoaresbr: so what's the problem?
[03:42] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: Which version of ubuntu?
[03:42] <NeedleInYourArms> its actually kubuntu
[03:42] <nyhcjedi> ty m8
[03:42] <NeedleInYourArms> 9.1 i think
[03:42] <syniphas> server irc.esper.net
[03:42] <IdleOne> nyhcjedi: yes in the repos
[03:42] <syniphas> ffff
[03:42] <nyhcjedi> tyvm
[03:43] <David-A> rafaelsoaresbr: then there must be a boot loader at the beginning of the disk (mbr) that chainloads into sda7.
[03:43] <rafaelsoaresbr> Gnea, It needs grub to be installed at system partition
[03:43] <IdleOne> nyhcjedi: it is a GUI app but for some reason doesn't add itself to the menu so to run it just type hardinfo in terminal
[03:43] <iflema> rafaelsoaresbr (hd0,7) for grub2 (hd0,6) for grub 1
[03:43] <Gnea> rafaelsoaresbr: nah, you can install it to sda7
[03:44] <Gnea> iflema: I'm not familiar with grub2 just yet, I'm guessing: setup (hd0,7)  would be the final command still?
[03:44] <harjot> Ok guys goodnight im sleeping :)
[03:44] <iflema> 9.10 + has grub2 by default
[03:44] <mc_> rafaelsoaresbr,
[03:44] <mc_> I have linux on /dev/sdb1
[03:44] <Gnea> as I said, I haven't used grub2 much at all :)
[03:44]  * Gnea is still running 9.04
[03:44] <rafaelsoaresbr> David-A, yes, I have installed GAG, a boot manager, windows xp and 7 are already installed and booting
[03:44] <mc_> and my menuconf has line
[03:45] <mc_> root (hd1,0)
[03:45] <MrD_> I have a serious problem with update manager
[03:45] <MrD_> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic '--hide-main-window' '--non-interactive' '--parent-window-id' '85983269' '-o' 'Synaptic::closeZvt=true' '--progress-str' 'Please wait, this can take some time.' '--finish-str' 'Update is complete' '--set-selections-file' '/tmp/tmprkWbAF' as user root.
[03:45] <rafaelsoaresbr> iflema, Thanks
[03:45] <mc_> so it would be hd1,6 for you
[03:45] <mc_> I would think
[03:45] <kman> Zen.  Once in the command window is there some commands to restart the version upgrade so it will recover or continue the upgrade?
[03:46] <ChogyDan> kman: what flavor of ubuntu are you using?  ubuntu desktop?  server?  kubuntu?  etc
[03:47] <zen933k> kman: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --fix-missing
[03:47] <David-A> rafaelsoaresbr: do you mean that the boot starts with mbr on sdb (hd1)? and that it shall chainload into sda7 (hd0,6or7)?
[03:47] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: You could check out this suggestion: http://www.symbiosoft.net/?q=node/66
[03:47] <kman> Thanks zen.  I 'll try that and see what happens.
[03:48] <nyhcjedi> how can i tell which nic my ubuntu client is using to get out to the net?
[03:48] <tvaughn> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 and updated and rebooted as it asked me to... and now it wont login it just accepts the password, trys to login, then crashes back to login prompt
[03:48] <NeedleInYourArms> thanks zen933k ill try that and get back to you
[03:49] <mc_> nyhcjedi, netstat -r
[03:49] <kman> Chog.  I originally started with the 8.? server version and then decided to move to the non server to get some of the more current updates.
[03:49] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: Try googling around with your laptop. Seems to be a common Toshi issue.
[03:49] <nyhcjedi> at termina
[03:49] <nyhcjedi> termina
[03:49] <nyhcjedi> ;terminal? sorry
[03:49] <mc_> nyhcjedi, and see what interface is set for default gateway
[03:49] <NeedleInYourArms> will do
[03:49] <mc_> default line
[03:49] <mc_> yes
[03:49] <b00b> !! help -- my computer keeps trying to connect to my neighbor's network after bootup..  anyone, any ideas?
[03:49] <tvaughn> NeedleInYourArms: yeah toshiba laptops are a pain :(
[03:49] <tvaughn> I have one too
[03:50] <kman> OK I'll be away for a minute while I try the sudo apt-get.
[03:50] <rafaelsoaresbr> David-A, All I know is that it loads the GRUB that is installed at /dev/sda7
[03:50] <nyhcjedi> ty mc
[03:50] <mc_> np
[03:50] <Maeda> What do you do if you can't run nautilus?
[03:50] <un214> run mc?
[03:50] <isaac_> David-A the file so far:  Is this the file stored in Ubuntu's "Downloads" folder, that Properties says is already full size?  Or do I need to find the Transmission operating folder to get the part file?
[03:50] <zen933k> b00b: Settings-> Network Connections -> click wireless tab, delete his network
[03:51] <David-A> tvaughn: try select session "gnome failsafe" before login, then try debug/fix problem, then remember to switch back to "gnome" when it works
[03:51] <b00b> ZEN == thx so much!!
[03:52] <zen933k> all those days spent pulling my hair out are paying off...
[03:52] <markatto> why r the buttons on the left window side now?
[03:52] <David-A> isaac: what folder it downloads to should be a setting in the torrent client (or maybe can be selected per torrent file)
[03:52] <mc_> rafaelsoaresbr, /dev/sda7 would have line root (hd0,6) I think
[03:52] <zen933k> markatto: politics ;)
[03:53] <markatto> zen933k: is not the right side more proper and better for the use of people?
[03:53] <zen933k> er
[03:53] <w_> whit?
[03:53] <w_> what?
[03:53] <isaac_> markatto  /join #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <markatto> had i wished to acquire a computer window buttons on right i would buy apple
[03:54] <David-A> isaac: a partially received file will have a file size indicating a complete file (but with good filesystem, the not yet received parts of the file will occupy no disk space)
[03:54] <CaptainTrek> markatto: type /join #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <isaac_> My internet connection is slllloooooowwww (hence the bit torrents) so I haven't tried a beta.  Are the buttons in new Ubuntu (Lucid) really so hideous?
[03:54] <Fikcio> Hello. I need help.
[03:55] <isaac_> Fikcio what's the problem?
[03:55] <MrD_> issac_ yes
[03:55] <MrD_> they are God awful
[03:55] <Fikcio> I'm having problems with GRUB after having tried to reinstall Windows.
[03:55] <markatto> CaptainTrek: is this channel not ubuntu help channel?
[03:55] <xangua> Fikcio: normaly windows deletes grub
[03:55] <CaptainTrek> markatto: yes, for stable released versions. here, i'll show you
[03:55] <CaptainTrek> !lucid | markatto
[03:55] <Fikcio> Yes. I'm trying to reinstall GRUB, but I get error 17.
[03:56] <MrD_> I recommend waiting for the release, I still get plenty of bugs with Lucid
[03:56] <isaac_> Fikcio boot from the Ubuntu live cd and fix grub from it.
[03:56] <MrD_> for example, I can't run updates now
[03:56] <un214> hint: be free of UI politics: use kubuntu-desktop which mark shuttleworth doesn't
[03:56] <Fikcio> Yes, I'm using Ubuntu Live CD right now.
[03:56] <gdewald> whats a good video player for ubuntu? I need one that works well with subtitle fonts and multiple audio streams
[03:56] <MrD_> VLC is awesome
[03:56] <isaac_> Fikcio alternatively, use a partition editor (like the one on that live CD), delete all Ubuntu and reinstall it.  It would also fix GRUB en route.
[03:56] <straterra> I just downloaded the netbook remix..and the usb creator app won't load the iso. The iso has been verified as good.
[03:57] <straterra> Any ideas on this?
[03:57] <isaac_> Kind of like burning down the barn to kill the rats, but it would work with least nit-picking.
[03:57] <xOOx> Hi, I want to use putty to connect to my Linux machine; putty -D 8080 -P 443 -ssh homeIP; if I use a local ip address (192.168.0.3) it works fine. but how can I change it to actual ip address; The problem is that all computers in my network have same ip; so what I should insert for homeIP?
[03:57] <xangua> straterra: are you in the live cd now¿
[03:57] <gdewald> MrD_, I hate VLC, it uses its own fonts for displaying subtitles
[03:57] <zen933k> markatto: http://lifehacker.com/5500577/move-ubuntus-window-buttons-back-to-the-right
[03:57] <straterra> No..
[03:57] <isaac_> straterra unetbootin
[03:57] <straterra> I'm in Windows
[03:57] <tvaughn> David-A: could grub cause this?
[03:57] <Fikcio> Is it necessary that I delete my partitions?
[03:58] <MrD_> also, the netbook edition has a fatal flaw (when I used it a month ago) the program menu doesn't scroll down as far as it should! I was missing programs! I'd suggest sticking to regular old 9.10
[03:58] <markatto> zen933k: why do i wish to use hacker site?
[03:58] <Fikcio> I mean, all I need to do is reinstall GRUB so that I can access my Ubuntu.
[03:58] <rafaelsoaresbr> iflema, I'm going to intall 9.10, so it installs grub2, can you post a reply here: http://pastebin.com/nUrJh3R8 ?
[03:58] <markatto> zen933k: i do not want hacked my computer
[03:58] <tvaughn> oh failsafe worked..
[03:58] <mc_> Fikcio just google "repair grub from live cd"
[03:58] <MrD_> so I can't install updates from update manager
[03:58] <MrD_> I get this: The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[03:58] <Fikcio> Yes, I did.
[03:58] <tvaughn> markatto: I seriously hope you are joking
[03:58] <MrD_> after I ran 'su'
[03:58] <Fikcio> I followed all the steps and read the troubleshooting.
[03:58] <zen933k> markatto: Certainly not what that site is for :P The article talks about the buttons. I'll just top since it's not the topic of the chan though
[03:59] <David-A> tvaughn: sorry, cause what?
[03:59] <Fikcio> Still get this error 17.
[03:59] <mc_> so you did find out which partiton has grub and run setup for it?
[03:59] <tvaughn> David-A: the login issue but it worked in failsafe what do I do now
[03:59] <Fikcio> Yes, this is not the first time I have to do this.
[03:59] <Fikcio> I don't know what's going on.
[03:59] <mc_> I mean which partition has stage1 file
[03:59] <xangua> straterra: so you are using unetbootin¿
[03:59] <markatto> zen933k: why you try to get my computer hacked?
[04:00] <kman> Zen.  the sudo apt-get update failed with a bunch of warnings and an error message.  It suggested trying sudo dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem.
[04:00] <geekphreak> markatto: he is not relax man, its a safe site
[04:00] <mc_> Fikcio I did it in the past
[04:00] <Fikcio> Yes. Last time I did: root (hd0,0); setup (hd0).
[04:00] <tvaughn> markatto: stop trolling
[04:00] <Fikcio> Now it raises error 17 after setup (hd0).
[04:00] <kman> it seems to be running something and hopefully it will get the upgrade back on the rails.
[04:00] <bodi> geekphreak, hows it going
[04:00] <David-A> tvaughn: grub is not involved when logging in. i would suspect old settings not compatible with new programs if login fails after upgrade (settings in dot-files in home folder)
[04:01] <tvaughn> David-A: well what should I do
[04:01] <mc_> Fikcio, well then google grub error 17, I found this e.g. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[04:01] <MrD_> kman it didnt help
[04:01] <markatto> how i use this "gconf-editor"
[04:01] <markatto> i do not see in menu
[04:02] <bodi> IdleOne,  - are you gonna unban me or what lol
[04:02] <tvaughn> markatto: terminal
[04:02] <edbian> markatto, "gconf-editor" in a terminal
[04:02] <isaac_> markatto hit Alt F2 and type gconf-editor
[04:02] <iflema> rafaelsoaresbr on screen 7 of the installer click on advanced and hit the dropdown box
[04:02] <isaac_> Or terminal
[04:02] <mc_> wow, late, cya guys
[04:02] <epispider> join #chits
[04:02] <Fikcio> mc_, I cannot imagine what could have changed since the last time I did this, but I'll give it a try.
[04:02] <Fikcio> Thank you.
[04:02] <xangua> epispider: don't spam
[04:03] <zen933k> kman: Sorry I missed your message
[04:03] <IdleOne> bodi: ban evading, you have been banned once already
[04:03] <IdleOne> please join #ubuntu-ops
[04:03] <zen933k> kman: Try doing what it suggests.
[04:03] <David-A> tvaughn: copy all dot-files to a temporary folder (e.g. called "dot-file-backup/") and see if login works (all your themes and mails will be gone) then dot files back one at a time , logout and login, and see when it stops working, that is the offending dotfile. then copy all other dotfiles back and themes and mails should be back.
[04:04] <bodi> yes you banned me last night hiexpo  and i appoligize i should not have blew up
[04:04] <markatto> gconf-editor is like windows registry?
[04:04] <IdleOne> bodi: please join #ubuntu-ops.
[04:04] <tvaughn> David-A: there has to be a less tedius way..
[04:04] <bodi> ok
[04:05] <zen933k> markatto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gconf-editor
[04:05] <David-A> tvaughn: yes, see log files and google suspect error messages
[04:05] <NeedleInYourArms> zen933k: that seemed to work thank you =]
[04:05] <David-A> tvaughn: e.g. .xsession-errors
[04:06] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: Monitor your CPU temp for a bit
[04:06] <markatto> how i change settings it "gconf-editor" ?????
[04:06] <NeedleInYourArms> umm how do i do that?
[04:06] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: If your bios has fail safe for CPU temp shutdown you may want to set them. If you find you can run games/apps without things getting too hot then consider yourself fixed ;)
[04:07] <xangua> markatto: what do you want to change¿¿
[04:07] <NeedleInYourArms> ahh
[04:07] <NeedleInYourArms> can i use the widget for cpu temp?
[04:07] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: sudo apt-get acpi
[04:07] <markatto> xangua: window button position
[04:07] <NeedleInYourArms> ohh ok
[04:07] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: sudo apt-get acpi
[04:07] <rafaelsoaresbr> iflema, thanks, i am on windows right now, going restart to install ubuntu. so (hd0,6) is /dev/sda7 for grub2
[04:07] <MrD_> I fixed it, it was some sudo problems
[04:07] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: er, yeah the widget might be handy too if it works :)
[04:07] <MrD_> any widget that tells you how much energy your PC takes?
[04:07] <MrD_> or consumes actually?
[04:07] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: acpi -V will give you all kinds of fun stats
[04:07] <xangua> markatto: go to /apps/metacity/general ; button_layout entry
[04:08] <iflema> rafaelsoaresbr no... (hd0,7) hit the dropdown box youll see sda7
[04:08] <rafaelsoaresbr> iflema, sorry it's (hd0,7)
[04:08] <markatto> xangua: what is "metacity"
[04:08] <xangua> markatto: looks like there is a gui to make easier this; ubuntu tweak is called
[04:09] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: The widgets do not seem to work on my netbook so I depend on 'acpi' to keep me updated. You can always read up on it by googling it
[04:09] <iflema> rafaelsoaresbr the installer is easy... screen 7 advanced dropdown box..... alternate cd will be slightly different
[04:09] <xangua> markatto: metacity is the gnome window manager
[04:09] <tvaughn> David-A: I dont have a .xsession-errors
[04:10] <rafaelsoaresbr> iflema, thanks, i am going to connect to this channel during instalation
[04:10] <tvaughn> oh in my home dir
[04:10] <tvaughn> hm fatal io error might do it
[04:10] <NeedleInYourArms> zen933k: i think im good actually the fan is kicking on and off like its sposed to now
[04:10] <iflema> ive gotta go put me netbook in the shop ;)... good luck...
[04:10] <markatto> it tell me i cannot edit "button_layout"
[04:10] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: Sweet. Enjoy Ubuntu :)
[04:10] <NeedleInYourArms> will do
[04:10] <NeedleInYourArms> and thanks for the help
[04:11] <NeedleInYourArms> i know i coulda googled it but i wouldnt know where to start lol
[04:11] <h00k> markatto: are you talking about Lucid?
[04:11] <zen933k> No prob. This channel has saved me enough times.
[04:11] <markatto> h00k: new ubuntu version
[04:11] <h00k> markatto: If you're referring to lucid, that discussion takes place in #ubuntu+1
[04:12] <David-A> tvaughn: there should be a .xsession-errors after you have loggen in in a graphical environment (as opposed to text mode) its a hidden file so you need ls -a or control-h in the file browser
[04:12] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: I wanted to know when I saw toshiba in case I end up putting Ubuntu on my gf's one day
[04:12] <tvaughn> David-A: I found it but google is failing me :(
[04:12] <NeedleInYourArms> ohh so i helped you in the process also sweet
[04:12] <inglor> I don't really get what I'm supposed to do with gwibber...
[04:13] <tvaughn> gnome-settings-daemon: Fatal IO error 11
[04:13] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: It's a L300D
[04:13] <zen933k> NeedleInYourArms: Yeah, that's how I've gained most of my *nix knowledge. Solving other peoples issues ;)
[04:14] <loki00> trying to get xubuntu on my dell mini 10. Want to put it on sda5, already have a swap and want to preserve xp and dell restore. How do I set up the bootloader
[04:14] <Shizuo> Offtopic where?
[04:14] <David-A> tvaughn: what about creating a new user, e.g. "alterego" and login into that, see if that work. then old dotfiles are even more likely the cause.
[04:14] <Maeda> finally fixed my system
[04:14] <Maeda> jesus fucking christ
[04:14] <hiexpo> ¯`'·.žž.·'Ž`'·.ž.*cracking the whip©[04:14] <h00k> Maeda: please watch your language
[04:14] <Maeda> took all day, now I can get started on my paper
[04:14] <tvaughn> !language | Maeda
[04:14] <Shizuo> !offtopic
[04:14] <Cancu>  hi, how can i compare to files in a bash script?
[04:14] <Maeda> how is it offtopic my ubuntu was broken
[04:15] <Cancu>  something like this if (cmp actual.html anterior.html) == 0 {
[04:15] <Maeda> and nobody here could fix it
[04:15] <zen933k> Sorry
[04:15] <hiexpo>  ^^Å^^
[04:15] <tvaughn> nobody told you to go to offtopic..
[04:15] <tvaughn> !spam | hiexpo
[04:15] <siavashserver> Hi there, will ubuntu 10.04 come with gnome 3.0 or it planned for 10.10 ?
[04:15] <h00k> hiexpo: do you have a specific question?
[04:15] <tvaughn> !flood | hiexpo
[04:15] <zen933k> I was just apologizing in advance.
[04:15] <tvaughn> meh that didnt help
[04:15] <tvaughn> !lucid | siavashserver
[04:16] <hiexpo> that was an axident sorry
[04:16] <Maeda> accident
[04:16] <siavashserver> thanks guys!
[04:16] <pourya> cacu use compare
[04:16] <Maeda> anyway later geeks, going to warm up my box with some eva angelina
[04:17] <tvaughn> David-A: still fails
[04:17] <l3lackwood> #join ubuntu+1
[04:17] <mrpink> l3lackwood, you don't have 'basics::move::join' permissions here
[04:18] <RedXIII> Has anyone ever encountered a .phpgz file?
[04:18] <David-A> Cancu: if cmp file1 file1; then ...; fi
[04:18] <inglor> plasma-desktop under ubuntu... I feel dirty
[04:18] <RedXIII> I have a file named "test.xml.phpgz", won't decompress to base64 and isn't a 'gz' archive.
[04:19] <David-A> tvaughn: does login into a new user "alterego" fail? not good then
[04:19]  * tvaughn reinstalls
[04:19] <inglor> It's extremely funny how everything is running together, compiz, gnome, plasma, screenlets, desklets, docky ....
[04:20] <xangua> inglor do you have any question¿ general chat is in the !ot channel
[04:20] <andres_> #mina
[04:21] <ghostsan> do i have to register to talk here?
[04:21] <ghostsan> seems not
[04:21] <andres_> upps
[04:21] <ghostsan> upps
[04:22] <IdleOne> ghostsan: but still a good idea to register
[04:22] <IdleOne> !register > ghostsan
[04:22] <tvaughn> er.. when I choose install ubuntu should it start scrolling text?
[04:22] <IdleOne> tvaughn: yes some
[04:22] <IdleOne> tvaughn: you installing from the live cd?
[04:23] <tvaughn> it stopped at host added ieeee1394
[04:23] <tvaughn> yeah
[04:23] <ghostsan> thanks
[04:23] <tvaughn> IdleOne: where can I get the nonlive cd?
[04:23] <IdleOne> !alternate
[04:23] <tvaughn> ohh
[04:23] <tvaughn> wondered what that was
[04:23] <tvaughn> :D
[04:23] <IdleOne> now you know :)
[04:24] <rid> oollaaa
[04:24] <Faithful> Lucid
[04:24] <tvaughn> IdleOne: ill probably forget in a day tho :(
[04:24] <IdleOne> tvaughn: you can download it at ubuntu.com and you can always ask in here
[04:25] <tvaughn> I know
[04:25] <tvaughn> I love it here :)
[04:25] <gimpster_> can anyone help me with my network manager it looks like it is there but it will not show up in system/admin
[04:26] <zmbmartin> Is anyone else having issues with chromium? My mouse is being wierd.
[04:27] <litropy> I'm attempting to open picasa for the first time after installing using the guide at http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/scripted.html and get the following output: http://pastebin.com/11tyM1Md
[04:27] <zmbmartin> It won't change from plain arrow to test input or hand on link hover.
[04:27] <litropy> system info is in the paste.
[04:27] <zmbmartin> I can select or highlight text.
[04:27] <snoopy> heyy
[04:27] <zmbmartin> It is really wierd
[04:27] <Guest55226> How come I can't see the url bar on wine internet explorer?
[04:28] <w_> 大家好。。
[04:28] <xangua> zmbmartin: are you using the daily build PPA¿¿ if yes try better the beta PPA
[04:28] <h00k> ubottu: tell Guest55226 about appdb
[04:29] <xangua> hi w_ , looking for chinnese ubuntu support¿
[04:29] <litropy> Is there a picasa or google related chan I could try?
[04:29] <zmbmartin> xangua: I am trying that now.
[04:29] <karmic> hi someone in spanish?
[04:30] <w_> hello everyone
[04:30] <nyhcjedi> howdy dubaya
[04:30] <w_> oh my god
[04:30] <zmbmartin> xangua: same thing in google-chrome-beta, google-chrome-unstable, and google-chromuim
[04:30] <roark> I am downloading libdvdcss...when i try doing that i get the following error that connection to packages.medibuntu.org is timed out
[04:31] <mcurran> I typed "cat" without any proceeding options to maybe get a menu, but instead it's defragmenting some things - Is this common, can you use cat to defrag a ext3 or ext4 partition?
[04:31] <roark> I tried ping packages.medibuntu.org and it looks like the server is down
[04:31] <VinceN> It's been having issues today
[04:31] <roark> anyone knows if I can use a mirror for packages.medibunty.org
[04:31] <w_> i want to know how to use "eclipse"
[04:32] <roark> VinceN, did you reply to me
[04:32] <zmbmartin> xangua: any other ideas what it could be.
[04:32] <xangua> !es > karmic
[04:32] <CaptainTrek> roark: they're all down unfortunately at the moment (I tried multiple mirrors)
[04:32] <xangua> zmbmartin: no, I rarely use chromium
[04:32] <roark> CaptainTrek, cool thanks any ideas when they will be back...
[04:32] <karmic> !es
[04:32] <zmbmartin> anyone else having problems with chromium?
[04:32] <xangua> roark: looks like medibuntu is not aviable
[04:32] <CaptainTrek> roark: nope, check in #medibuntu
[04:32] <CaptainTrek> roark: /join #medibuntu
[04:32] <VinceN> roark: Was not aware you messaged me.  What can I do for you?
[04:33] <xangua> CaptainTrek: didn't know there was a medibuntu channel
[04:33] <CaptainTrek> xangua: information on that channel was courtesy of the ubuntu ops, they told me the channel was there
[04:33] <hmw> I just "lost" my external USB HD. mount says something about a bad superblock and windows XP can't use it either. I have no  idea, what could have caused this, no crash happened, afaict. What can I do to recover my disk?
[04:34] <roark> VinceN, Sorry I thought you replied to my message... looks like I was wrong...
[04:34] <NeedleInYourArms> so is 60 f a good cpu temp?
[04:35] <hmw> 60°C often is a good CPU temp these days
[04:35] <NeedleInYourArms> ahh good then the thing worked
[04:35] <hmw> why does ubuntu hate me?
[04:35] <Capt_Blackwood> hmw, i usually begin to panic at 85 C
[04:36] <Capt_Blackwood> hmw, what's the issue?
[04:36] <David-A> hmw: does it exists as a device in /dev, e.g. /dev/sdc or something? then use special programs to extract files from damaged harddisks
[04:36] <hmw> yes, its listed with fstab -l
[04:36] <gdewald> fyi F13 opens the console...
[04:36] <hmw> the disk is quite new
[04:37] <David-A> hmw: is the usb cable long?
[04:38] <hmw> David-A: about 1.5m, it was part of the package. I used it with a USB Hub
[04:38] <hmw> I can't "extract" really, because it is my BIG disk :/
[04:39] <Some_Person> I now have a 1TB external hard drive, and I need to format the darn thing to something that hopefully won't bother with permissions but still be readable and writable in Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows
[04:39] <NeedleInYourArms> oh and could someone help me with vlc by chance i cant get it to save a playlist/library
[04:40] <kman> ZEn you still out there?
[04:40] <NeedleInYourArms> i could under windows but not kubunt to for some reason o.o
[04:40] <TimothyA> Some_Person: quite a tall order
[04:40] <Capt_Blackwood> Some_Person, Set it up as a FAT32 Filesystem
[04:40] <TimothyA> but I guess FAT would be most cross-platform friendly, unless someone knows of a better solution
[04:40] <Capt_Blackwood> ALL OSES can write to it
[04:41] <TimothyA> er yes, FAT32 >_<
[04:41] <Some_Person> TimothyA: I have it as NTFS now, and the darn permissions are screwing me up between operating systems
[04:41] <TimothyA> Capt_Blackwood: although *nix/mac need some encouragement
[04:41] <gimpster_> is this a good place to get help with a wireless network card (BCM4318 on Ubuntu 9.10)
[04:41] <Some_Person> Will FAT32 have the same problem, and does it even support 1TB drives?
[04:41] <TimothyA> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT32
[04:41] <TimothyA> This allows for drive sizes of up to 8 TiB with 32 KiB clusters, but the boot sector uses a 32-bit field for the sector count, limiting volume size to 2 TiB on a hard disk with 512 byte sectors.
[04:42] <Capt_Blackwood> Some_Person, do you have a program called GParted?
[04:42] <Capt_Blackwood> that's how i set mine up
[04:42] <hmw> David-A: i'd expect some IO errors, if there was a physical error, so I assume, it's just logical. Are there any tools, that might be able to recover the partition?
[04:42] <Some_Person> Capt_Blackwood: I'm not a newbie
[04:42] <kman> Hello all Is there a sudo apt-get -fixmissing command?
[04:42] <CaptainTrek> Some_Person: FAT32 is a bad decision for large drives :P
[04:42] <David-A> hmw: i recall i read about problems with usb harddisk, when accounting the part of the cable inside the computer box it was maybe over 1 meter. try shorter cable and no hub
[04:42] <Capt_Blackwood> I know NTFS can be read and written to in linux.
[04:42] <Some_Person> Capt_Blackwood: What would you recommend then?
[04:42] <TimothyA> This limitation is by design and according to Microsoft was imposed because many tasks on a very large FAT32 file system become slow and inefficient.
[04:42] <Capt_Blackwood> MACS are read only from what i know
[04:43] <hmw> I guess it's too late for a shorter cable now. That is really bad. As bad as W95...
[04:43] <TimothyA> I suggest just using ext2 and using something in windows to read that ;>_>
[04:43] <Some_Person> Capt_Blackwood: You can write to NTFS on Mac OS X with MacFuse and some NTFS-3G thingy for it
[04:43] <Capt_Blackwood> Can Macs see EXT2?
[04:43] <David-A> hmw: there are a lot of recovery programs in the repositories, depending what was wrong and what to recover
[04:43] <Capt_Blackwood> oh...i see
[04:44] <Some_Person> I'm really hoping for a file system that will completely ignore permissions though. That is my problem
[04:44] <CaptainTrek> Some_Person, there's no filesystem that I know of that ignores permissions.
[04:44] <Capt_Blackwood> I don't know about large drives...sorry.
[04:44] <TimothyA> Capt_Blackwood: it should see ext2 :|
[04:44] <Capt_Blackwood> well, permission ignoring filesystems.
[04:45] <TimothyA> Some_Person: a sheet of paper and pen!
[04:45] <gimpster_> I really do need help with my network card to work in this rig please help me
[04:45] <pmp6nl> what card you have?
[04:45] <gimpster_> BCM 4318 airforce one
[04:46] <Some_Person> My problem right now is that Linux is denying me access to stuff made on Windows, and I'm sure if I tried with Mac I would experience similar issues
[04:46] <pmp6nl> sorry not familar with that one.  you check the wireless board ont he forun
[04:46] <hmw> i don't remember having formatted my USB drive as FAT32 - !?
[04:46] <Some_Person> I just want to store some damn files without any permissions crap
[04:46] <gimpster_> pmp6nl check where???
[04:47] <hmw> Some_Person: i'd use NTFS
[04:47] <crucialhoax> gimpster_: Give me one sec
[04:47] <Some_Person> hmw: I have it as that now, and am having permissions issues
[04:47] <pmp6nl> gimpster http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336
[04:47] <Some_Person> I don't want to play with the permissions every time I write to it
[04:47] <gimpster_> crucial any help is totally cool | thanks pmp
[04:48] <pmp6nl> some_person, you shouldnt be.  mine works fine between win7, vista, and ubuntu.  what ubuntu version?
[04:48] <hmw> Some_Person: you can't expect permissions to work on a non-native filesystem. Either you have no perms and some programs will not like it, but everyone can access it, or you have to use ext{2|3|4} and deal WITH permissions.
[04:48] <crucialhoax> gimpster_: Does this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:48] <Some_Person> pmp6nl: Perhaps part of my problem also lies with accessing it via network
[04:48] <DankNugs>  Hey, I'm wondering if someone could help me walk through some steps to figure out why my boot screen is blank after grub loads kernel.
[04:48] <gimpster_> crucial i will look it up now and see thanks
[04:49] <DankNugs> A few days ago, the latest build of lucid was working great. THen after a few updates, I can't get to gdm. It shows loading screen, goes blank. Doesn't respond to ctrl+alt+f# keys
[04:49] <crucialhoax> gimpster_: Ok. Let us knw :)
[04:49] <pmp6nl> Some_Person, have you tried accessing another hard drive locally?
[04:50] <Some_Person> The system with the HD physically connected to it primarily runs Windows XP
[04:50] <gimpster_> looks really good so far thanks for the addy - crucial
[04:50] <xangua> !lucid > DankNugs
[04:51] <pmp6nl> Some_Person try to connect that hd directly to the comp with ubuntu and see if you have the same problems
[04:51] <crucialhoax> gimpster_: Sweet, hopefully it works :)
[04:51] <DankNugs> Oh, my bad.
[04:51] <Some_Person> Basically, what I did was mounted it in Windows (on a machine connected via the network), created some files, booted ubuntu on that same machine, and those files are read-only
[04:52] <xangua> DankNugs: well, it's a beta after all, what were you expecting¿
[04:52] <pmp6nl> Some_Person can you access the windows partition on that hd from ubuntu (all on the same computer)?
[04:53] <DankNugs> oh, I know. I don't have a problem with it. :) I was just curious if someone could help me through some troubleshooting is all. Hard for me to do it on forums. But thank you.
[04:53] <Capt_Blackwood> DankNugs, 10.04 LTS?
[04:53] <Capt_Blackwood> DankNugs, if yes please try #ubuntu+1
[04:53] <DankNugs> Yeah, but this isn't the channel for it. I just found that out.
[04:54] <Capt_Blackwood> damn, nearly typed ubuntu + 5
[04:54] <DankNugs> I did. That's why I came in here. My impatience got the best of me.
[04:54] <Capt_Blackwood> ditch the impatience bro, and go back in and hang...somebody gotta say something
[04:55] <Capt_Blackwood> i hope that's not take personally
[04:55] <hylian> hello all
[04:55] <DankNugs> I'm doing just that. lol I figured it'd be quicker to talk to someone on irc than to read manpages
[04:55] <DankNugs> and figure it out. but whatever comes first.
[04:55] <RPG-Master> What's the channel for asking LoCo questions?
[04:55] <Flannel> RPG-Master: #ubuntu-locoteams would probably be a good start
[04:56] <RPG-Master> Flannel: Thanks
[04:56] <Capt_Blackwood> Keep on that strategy, something's liable to work
[04:56] <hylian> anyone ever get a lexamrk x2250 to work? i have to use windows because from what i read the printer and scanner dont work, need both
[04:56] <alexander_> saludos a los ubunteros de hoy
[04:56] <chelz> !es | alexander_
[04:56] <chelz> let's do this
[04:56] <stealth-> Can anyone recommend a easy-to-use emulator for n64 native to ubuntu?
[04:57] <chelz> stealth-: mupen64plus
[04:57] <hylian> ubottu, i love ya! save my bacon a lot
[04:57] <stealth-> chelz: thanks
[04:58] <rayvhen> I need to know how I can upload songs from my sansa mp3 play into Xubuntu
[04:58] <hylian> stealth i have actually had more luck running project64 via wine than the native n64. there is one though, under synaptic type 64
[04:58] <chelz> !xubuntu | rayvhen
[04:58] <chelz> n64 emus under wine do work pretty well these days
[04:58] <alexander_> Hello ubuntu users
[04:58] <chelz> !hi | alexander_
[04:59] <Capt_Blackwood> DankNugs, no problem
[04:59] <alexander_> I wonder if anyone here can help me
[04:59] <hylian> we can try
[04:59] <rayvhen> anyone have any ideas? I am really new to the system itself
[04:59] <alexander_> I am crazy to configure a DNS server
[04:59] <alexander_> I installed BIND9
[05:00] <DankNugs> you're not crazy
[05:00] <pmp6nl> hylian are you just trying to copy the.m?
[05:00] <chelz> rayvhen:  Join #xubuntu for support
[05:00] <markl_> rayvhen: not sure, can you just plug it into USB and browse the files on it?
[05:00] <chelz> alexander_: find a guide for the software you want to use, in this case BIND, and ubuntu
[05:00] <hylian> rayvhen can windows see that like it's a drive? if you plug it into ubuntu, then does ubuntu show you a new drive?
[05:00] <alexander_> but I have not find any tutorial
[05:00] <rayvhen> I will check the xubuntu server. Xubuntu is not showing me a new drive
[05:00] <hylian> pmp6nl copy who?
[05:01] <pmp6nl> hylian, sorry I cant read
[05:01] <pmp6nl> wrong user
[05:01] <alexander_> are really complecated for a beginer
[05:01] <chelz> alexander_: are you using desktop or server? what version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:01] <chelz> alexander_: well this is an opportunity to learn if you don't give up
[05:01] <hylian> rayvhen what make of sansa player?
[05:02] <alexander_> a server with ubuntu 9.10
[05:02] <DankNugs> failures are how you learn
[05:02] <rayvhen> sansa sandisk 2 gig
[05:02] <DankNugs> if you're not fucking up, you're not doing it right.
[05:02] <Flannel> DankNugs: Please mind the language, thanks
[05:02] <alexander_> I have been looking in Internet
[05:02] <DankNugs> Sorry.
[05:02] <wombatman> rayvhen: fuze?
[05:02] <techhelper1> language sets the feel of people here
[05:03] <pmp6nl> alexander_ are you trying to run a server?
[05:03] <wombatman> rayvhen: clip?
[05:03] <chelz> alexander_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html
[05:03] <alexander_> yes sure
[05:03] <rayvhen> its the clip
[05:03] <alexander_> for my intranet
[05:03] <Guest67032> sure
[05:03] <chelz> pmp6nl: he's a self-described beginner and wants to setup a dns server
[05:03] <hylian> rayvhen rhapsody (for ubuntu, because it's gnome based) should be able to sync and transfer data, if that doesnt work, try downloading songbird, which should also work
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[05:03] <Flannel> alexander_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto might help
[05:03] <rayvhen> ok, thank you hylian
[05:04] <alexander_> we have a short network
[05:04] <hylian> rayvhen, no prob man.
[05:04] <wombatman> plug it in and then restart your computer
[05:04] <rayvhen> lady.. lol
[05:04] <Guest67032> when is that?
[05:04] <wombatman> i know i had problems with sansa on 9.10 up
[05:04] <alexander_> Thanks  Flannel I will take a look
[05:04] <Flannel> rayvhen: You can also configure it as MSC instead of MTP, and it should just show up as bulk storage
[05:04] <techhelper1> GeekNode is a relayer that i am building from scratch in perl
[05:04] <hylian> rayvhen sorry, erm, dudette? i was born in the 70's, LOL
[05:04] <wombatman> there's supposedly a fix as it's recognized improperly
[05:04] <techhelper1> So far it is working back and forth to GeekShed
[05:05] <Joelito> question, how can I print in the terminal the return status of a binary?
[05:05] <alexander_> I would like to get an step by step to configure on DNS
[05:05] <rayvhen> LOL hylian. Flannel. I am new to the whole Ubuntu and Xubuntu thing, so changing format on here may be a bit difficult for me. haha
[05:05] <Flannel> rayvhen: Are you currently using MTP with it?
[05:05] <collier_s> Joelito, echo $?
[05:05] <rayvhen> I have no idea
[05:06] <Flannel> rayvhen: On windows, did it show up as a drive? or as some fancy media device?
[05:06] <Flannel> rayvhen: How did you put music on it?
[05:06] <chelz> Joelito: echo $?
[05:06] <chelz> Joelito: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/shell-how-to-determine-the-exit-status-of-linux-and-unix-command/
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[05:06] <rayvhen> on windows my player showed up fine. I am dual booting ( I think thats the proper term for it) I have both windows and xubuntu on my laptop
[05:06] <wombatman> rayvhen: mtp/msc is set in the settings of the player not ubuntu/xubuntu
[05:06] <Flannel> techhelper1: Bots aren't welcome here.
[05:06] <hylian> rayvhen you should be able to keep xubuntu, and still install either of those softwares. i just mentioned that it doesnt come with xubuntu because it's gnome based (ubuntu is gnome based)
[05:06] <Flannel> techhelper1: (please remove it)
[05:07] <techhelper1> Flannel i am sorry, but i said earlier it is a work in progress
[05:07] <Joelito> chelz  if I run my app and later use echo $_
[05:07] <hmw> My USB drive just "died" (logically, it seems). When I try to mount the file system, mount tells me, I needed to specify the fs type. How do I approach a recovery?
[05:07] <Flannel> rayvhen: That is the proper term.  If it's set up as MSC, then it just shows up as bulk stoage both places, so you don't need to transfer stuff.
[05:07] <alexander_> Thats good
[05:07] <techhelper1> and i thought i would show it here
[05:07] <Joelito> returns the binary name file
[05:07] <Flannel> techhelper1: Right, but "work in progress" bots aren't welcome just as "finished" ones aren't
[05:07] <halcyon-sky> yo
[05:08] <hylian> flannel, please say thet ubottu can stay, LOL he saved my bacon like 3 times with quick answers
[05:08] <Flannel> hylian: We run ubottu ;)
[05:08] <alexander_> Flannel thank you. Do you know if it exist in spanish
[05:08] <techhelper1> Can it stay if it relay's 1 way, and not the other
[05:08] <chelz> Joelito: you use "echo $?"  ?
[05:08] <Flannel> alexander_: I don't, you might ask in #ubuntu-es, they'd be more familiar
[05:08] <^b0ss^> Question : how well does ubuntu work with generic webcams ?
[05:08] <wombatman> rayvhen: both modes should work but try restarting with it plugged in. It can be a hassle but it may temporarily solve the problem and then search for fixes. I remember reading something about a fix having to do with a newer version of something but you may need to compile manually
[05:08] <mneptok> ubottu: intinedo Espanol?
[05:08] <techhelper1> it relays out to 1 network and does not recieve not back here flannel
[05:08] <chelz> ^b0ss^: goodly or badly
[05:08] <Flannel> techhelper1: Lets discuss this in #ubuntu-ops, it's not ontopic for this channel.
[05:09] <Joelito> chelz ah! nop :), I was using $_
[05:09] <Joelito> :p
[05:09] <mneptok> alexander_: so ... no.
[05:09] <Joelito> thanks chelz :)
[05:09] <chelz> Joelito: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/shell-how-to-determine-the-exit-status-of-linux-and-unix-command/
[05:09] <alexander_> yes i wil try Thanks for all By
[05:09] <hylian> !ubottu rhapsody
[05:09] <^b0ss^> chelz: could you look at this ..  http://arc.com.au/pub.php?pid=34873&p=product
[05:09] <alexander_> byeç
[05:09] <hylian> nothing huh
[05:10] <chelz> ^b0ss^: best way to determine if hardware is well supported is to get a brand and model number, also some kind of PCI or USB ID  that i hear exist would be good. there's hardly any info on that page so it's probably a gamble. i really don't know of your chances are good or bad.
[05:10] <mneptok> hylian: does the music player show up as a mass storage device in Xubuntu?
[05:11] <hmw> My USB drive just "died" (logically, it seems). I put it directly into the PC and connected it via the internal sata cable. I'd like to re-construct the partition table and whatever might be damaged. I had no crash and suddenly i noticed the drive to be missing on my desktop. What tools are there, that could do something like searching for contents and recreate the FAT file system? (I thought, i used NTFS, but I am not sure)
[05:11] <^b0ss^> ok thanks ....what about a microsoft product ? http://arc.com.au/pub.php?pid=34873&p=product
[05:11] <David-A> hmw: have you verified its not the cable, because if it is a recovery might have unnessecary problems too?
[05:11] <hmw> David-A: i put the drive into the case of the computer and connected with INTERNAL sata
[05:11] <hylian> mneptok some do some dont. thats why i suggested rhapsody because it "sync's" well with most players, including sansa. mine is just a big flash hard drive, so i can just drag and drop
[05:11] <nameless> hi every one
[05:11] <chelz> hmw: really make sure there's something wrong with it before messing with the fs
[05:12] <hmw> chelz: it wont mount anymore
[05:12] <hmw> chelz: not in Ubuntu nor WinXP
[05:12] <mneptok> hylian: sorry, i see rayvhen was asking
[05:12] <chelz> hmw: what message do you get when you try to mount it in the terminal? (please pastebin)
[05:12] <David-A> hmw: and the io-error remains? ok
[05:12] <mneptok> rayvhen: does the music player show up as a mass storage device in Xubuntu?
[05:12] <hmw> chelz: i must specify the file system type
[05:12] <hylian> mneptok no problem. i just log in now and then to try and help people.
[05:12] <hushedfeet> P
[05:12] <chelz> hmw: what does partition editor / gparted say about it?
[05:12] <rayvhen> Thats the thing. It doesnt show up at all
[05:12] <hmw> David-A: there is NO IO ERROR... it must be logical
[05:13] <chelz> ^b0ss^: that's the same link, i think
[05:13] <mneptok> rayvhen: what kind of player?
[05:13] <hylian> rayvhen even once rhapsody is going?
[05:13] <rayvhen> sansa sandisk clip
[05:13] <nichos> hi all, im trying to follow the myth wiki im stuck on a step. it's telling me to unmute IEC958 from alsa mixer, but i don't have that listed
[05:13] <rayvhen> rhapsody wont install
[05:13] <mneptok> rayvhen: use the preferences in the Sansa UI to switch the player from MTP to MSC mode.
[05:13] <hylian> mneptok, is rhapsody gnome only?
[05:14] <mneptok> hylian: i don;t know. i'ver never used it.
[05:14] <hushedfeet> I am trying to configure psad on my karmic desktop, and I keep receiving an error regarding mail. upon further examination, /bin/mail doesn't exist. this seems wrong to me.
[05:14] <hylian> mneptok really? it's my favorite music player for ubuntu.
[05:14] <techhelper1> ....
[05:15] <hylian> ubottu !sansa
[05:15] <crucialhoax> hushedfeet: scan the machine with rkhunter. It scans the /bin /usr/bin and /sbin for programs. That is a good start
[05:15] <hylian> your batting a thousand tonight ubottu,..
[05:15] <chelz> hushedfeet: i personally have mail in /usr/bin/mail
[05:15] <hmw> http://pastebin.com/qK6qvgj0
[05:16] <dibs> When I execute a bash script how can I tell it to always just open in a terminal?
[05:16] <mneptok> hylian: nothing from Real will ever touch my system.
[05:16] <crucialhoax> !sansa > rayvhen
[05:16] <David-A> hmw: if you mount with mount -t <TYPE> /dev/<DEVICE> /<MOUNTPOINT> with correct type, does it explain why it cannot mount?
[05:16] <chelz> hmw: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/
[05:16] <hylian> mneptok i goofed up not rhapsody, rhythymbox. i am such a moron.
[05:16] <hmw> David-A: chelz: i never had to, its broken. Bad Superblock stuff
[05:17] <DankNugs> when should you use mount -t auto verses mount -t <specific filesystem>?
[05:17] <chelz> hmw: but do it for the message it puts out to pastebin the message it puts out
[05:17] <hushedfeet> nah, i still just have mail-lock -touchlock and -unlock
[05:17] <hmw> http://pastebin.com/ADCfLjtZ
[05:17] <chelz> DankNugs: when it's time, you will know
[05:17] <rayvhen> switched it to msc mode
[05:17] <hmw> i told you, standard blahblah i dont want this disk anymore
[05:18] <David-A> hmw: have you verified that /dev/sdXX is the same device/partition as when it was external? was it the whole disk (sdX) or a partition (sdXY)?
[05:18] <hylian> rayvhen now when you replug it back in does xubuntu recognize a new flash drive?
[05:19] <hmw> there is only this one disk, with one large partition. the other drive is the USB stick, i used to boot (because i can only put in one HDD internally, the system disk is not active now)
[05:19] <rayvhen> yes it does hylian
[05:19] <ed2ef> hmw, what "dmesg | tail" says?
[05:19] <rayvhen> you are awesome :)
[05:19] <hmw> ed2ef: nothing, i would have noticed as important. do you want me to grep for something special?
[05:19] <rayvhen> thanks a bunch :)
[05:20] <hylian> rayvhen actually that one belongs to mneptok, but thanx anywayz.
[05:20] <hylian> rayvhen im sure you know the rest, time for some drag and drop action
[05:20] <rayvhen> oops sry
[05:20] <rayvhen> Thank you Mneptok. you are freakin awesome
[05:20] <Guest67032> having problems using wine, when i launch a Risk program it starts the splash screen then crashes, giving me the website for reporting bugs. any ideas, thanks
[05:20] <rayvhen> oh yeah. lots of drag and drop action. lol
[05:20] <ed2ef> hmw, can u use the mount command, them copy the output of "dmesg | tail" ?
[05:21] <hylian> guest67032 what version of wine? wine 1.x or 1.2/
[05:21] <David-A> hmw: re. recovery programs. have you an equally large space on another disk to make a binary copy? (the copy will probably have same superblockerror)
[05:22] <hmw> FAT: bogus sectors per cluster 0. \n VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem on dev sda1.  -- doesnt look like IO error to me. This looks like a logical error, doesnt it?
[05:23] <David-A> hmw: there is also programs that recognize jpeg and other file formats and recovers them of a damaged disk (dont expect 100% recovery that way)
[05:23] <xangua> appdb > Guest67032
[05:23] <xangua> !appdb
[05:23]  * mneptok is many things. "freakin' awesome" probably not among them.
[05:23] <ed2ef> hmw: dude, i really can get it, on your fdisk -l says that sda1 is a fat32 partition
[05:23] <geekphreak> mneptok: heh
[05:23] <Guest67032> thanks
[05:23] <ed2ef> hmw: but ur mount is trying to mount a ext4
[05:23] <ed2ef> !?
[05:23] <hmw> David-A: i have a backup of the most important files. More importantly, how can I prevent this from happening again? What did actually happen?
[05:23] <hylian> xangua i think he/she is gone
[05:24] <hmw> ed2ef: i think i used NTFS, but I am not sure.
[05:24] <subone> Where's the "Open With..." directory in home?
[05:24] <geekphreak> hmw:  you dont remember?
[05:24] <hylian> bye all time for sleep
[05:24] <ed2ef> hmw: try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt(or other mount point)
[05:24] <hmw> geekphreak: right. I formatted it a few months ago, and I can't imagine to have used FAT.
[05:25] <hushedfeet> chelz: the mail logfiles even exist... they're just blank
[05:25] <hmw> ed2ef: http://pastebin.com/qK6qvgj0   http://pastebin.com/ADCfLjtZ
[05:26] <hmw> guess i will have to dig through 24 hours of log file :/
[05:26] <hushedfeet> crucialhoax: doesn't find it
[05:26] <hmw> hints, what I should be grepping for, if i wanted to find out, why the drive crashed?
[05:26] <ed2ef> hmw, but you use vfat on type?Or just put auto?
[05:27] <ed2ef> hmw, your partition is a fat 32 dude, something is really wrong
[05:27] <hmw> ed2ef: i strongly doubt, that i formatted fat 32... i think, some program is crying for mama
[05:27] <David-A> hmw: what happend? one theory, if the cable was to long, maybe some bits were written wrong, and now when reading with a good cable, its still wrong on the disk. just an idea.
[05:28] <hmw> David-A: i would like to verify this. What would I see in the logs, if your theory applies?
[05:28] <ed2ef> hmw, idk, i never see fdisk confuse the partition type
[05:29] <David-A> hmw: it seems unlikely that all superblock went wrong thou. there should be lots of redundancy.
[05:29] <geekphreak> hmw:  what does sudo cfdisk show partition type?
[05:29] <ed2ef> hmw, when you try "mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt" it still can't mount?
[05:29] <David-A> hmw: what does fsck say?
[05:29] <hmw> geekphreak: it tells me, the MBR is messed up heavily
[05:29] <geekphreak> mbr?
[05:30] <hmw> ed2ef: http://pastebin.com/ADCfLjtZ
[05:30] <crucialhoax> hushedfeet: Well that is odd. Does it recognize that as a rootkit?
[05:30] <hmw> well, the MBR was my interpretation. cfdisk said: "FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder"
[05:31] <geekphreak> hmw:  you got some issues going there , good luck :)
[05:31] <hmw> i could try to recalculate the MBR things manually... but i dont want to
[05:31] <ed2ef> hmw, i already saw that paste, what was the command used on this paste?
[05:31] <Daemonic> Is there a program/driver for usb xbox360 controllers?
[05:31] <hmw> ed2ef: the one you suggtested mount vfat etcv
[05:31] <ed2ef> damn
[05:32] <hmw> well... if you don't have suggestions, what I should be grepping for, I think, you won't be able to help much further. Thanks for your time anyhow.
[05:32] <ed2ef> hmw, did your already tried "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt" ?
[05:32] <chelz> !recover | hmw
[05:33] <hmw> i did
[05:33] <hmw> aah... thanks chelz
[05:33] <ed2ef> same error?
[05:33] <chelz> hmw: search that wiki thing for gpart
[05:33] <David-A> hmw: the err msg in pastebin says "wrong fs type" OR "bad <LOTSOFTHINGS>". lets find out what the fs type really is, yes?
[05:33] <techhelper1> !ext3
[05:33] <chelz> hmw: not gparted but gpart
[05:33] <techhelper1> !ext4
[05:33] <techhelper1> ...
[05:33] <techhelper1> someone needs to get that
[05:34] <techhelper1> fannel
[05:34] <chelz> hmw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#GNU%20Parted
[05:34] <chelz> phenylalanine
[05:34] <techhelper1> !help
[05:34] <hmw> David-A: alright, lets find out. I am just somewhat clueless, last time i did this is over 10 years ago
[05:34] <techhelper1> !gnome
[05:34] <geekphreak> techhelper1: stop it
[05:35] <techhelper1> stop what?
[05:35] <dtminsk_> Anyone here have any ideas on how to unbrick ubunt 10 beta 2
[05:35] <chelz> !ubottu > techhelper1
[05:35] <dtminsk_> beta 1 worked fine
[05:35] <chelz> !lucid | dtminsk_
[05:35] <hmw> actually, this is my first data loss in over 10 years :)
[05:35] <chelz> dtminsk_: #ubuntu+1
[05:36] <chelz> hmw: have backups?
[05:36] <techhelper1> chelz it should change the response of search my brain, to pick my brain
[05:36] <techhelper1> lol
[05:36] <hmw> chelz: yes, its only 50% ugly. I want to find out, what happened and see, if i can prevent it from happening again, mainly.
[05:36] <chelz> search the factoids through the web interface
[05:36] <David-A> hmw: quick search like: "for fstype in vfat ntfs ext2 ext3 ext4 reiserfs ANDMORE; do mount -f $fstype /dev/XXX /WHATEVER; done"
[05:36] <hmw> i lost a lot of video files
[05:37] <David-A> hmw: err  mount -t $fstype, not -f
[05:37] <hmw> lol nice, david
[05:37] <hmw> i mean the for loop
[05:37] <student> anybody please explain what is "bundle script" & how yo create it
[05:37] <Daemonic> Could not connect to packages.medibuntu.org:80 (88.191.82.11), connection timed out
[05:38] <Daemonic> I've been getting that all day
[05:38] <Daemonic> what gives?
[05:38] <voss749> I wonder why the medibuntu folks havent just come up with their own Medibuntu iso
[05:38] <inglor> voss749: that would make no sense...
[05:39] <chelz> !medibuntu | Daemonic
[05:39] <hmw> http://pastebin.com/AQJQcE7J - means NTFS?
[05:40] <hushedfeet> wooo i fixed it
[05:40] <David-A> hmw: the man page of mount lists about 30 fs types you can test if you like. mount read only (option "-o ro") in case a type think it is right but not quite and writes back somthing wrong.
[05:40] <ezrafree> is there any way to use a remote screen session in X? and have gui tabs for each "screen" still?
[05:40] <chelz> hushedfeet: what was it?
[05:40] <bp0> why isn't there a partimage package for amd64 lucid?
[05:41] <chelz> bp0: #ubuntu+1
[05:41] <hushedfeet> foolish typo in conf
[05:41] <hushedfeet> got psad up now too!
[05:41] <hmw> David-A: i am pretty sure, i used NTFS, because I always do with my data partitions. Only NTFS, ext{3|4} and FAT32 might be possible, that's for sure.
[05:42] <Guest67032> does ubuntu version 9.10 include DirectShow (DX7) ?
[05:42] <chelz> hmw: dd it then run gpart over the dd'd img
[05:42] <chelz> in ro
[05:43] <hmw> Guest67032: that's more a question, if wine does include that. Ubuntu does NOT come with wine installed by default. Try winetricks to get DX installed, after you installed wine.
[05:43] <chelz> !wine | Guest67032
[05:43] <Guest67032> thanks, ok
[05:43] <David-A> hmw: ok, quite few to try then, and have you tried mount both /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1? (assuming its the 2nd disk)
[05:44] <hmw> chelz: lol... hm... i'd love to, but... 1TB --> 250GB wont work, i fear. I will look closer to my logs later, and after that will try to run gpart on the original drive due to lack of hardware.
[05:44] <polydeuces> Hey all, I just downloaded and installed Ubuntu 9.10 today (netbook remix) and just had a question about .run files, if anyone has a moment to help.
[05:44] <inglor> polydeuces: what seems to be the problem?
[05:45] <Dead_Pixel> Is there a program I can use with ubuntu, to make a full disk backup including the MBR incase of a hard disk failure?
[05:46] <puser> Hello, I can't figure out what happened. I get - ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted, when ping, also, my internet seems to be completley blocked. I figure that it's a firewall, but how do I revert it to default, so that my internet works again?
[05:46] <red2kic> !backup | Dead_Pixel
[05:46] <hmw> Dead_Pixel: lol... they just told me to use:   dd  ("disk dupe")
[05:46] <polydeuces> inglor: in the instructions I was to change permission to run it as an executable, which I did. this program (a game called Dofus) requires adobeAir, which I installed as well (seemingly successfully) though when I attempt to run the .run install file, the terminal comes up for a split second, vanishes, and nothing happens.
[05:47] <inglor> polydeuces: you can run it from terminal and see what happens, you can either tag the "run in terminal" option or open the terminal yourself and type ./yourfilename.run and see what happens
[05:47] <inglor> I wouldn't mess with permissions at first anyway
[05:47] <Dead_Pixel> hmw, is there something that would make an image or something to restore to that includes the partitions and mbr and everything instead of... duplicating the disk onto another disk?
[05:48] <polydeuces> inglor: it was mentioned specifically in the instructions given by the company. I tried what you said earlier, there was an error message last time I tried. I'll see if I can show it to you.
[05:48] <hmw> Dead_Pixel: get partimage
[05:48] <stealth-> Ummm, I kinda uninstalled a bunch of stuff I shouldn't have, now mplayer and glxinfo segfault.... Anyone know what I uninstalled?
[05:48] <hmw> Dead_Pixel: either use an Ubuntu USB thumb drive with partimage or get "clonezilla" live cd
[05:48] <Daemonic> ok, so medibuntu gone?
[05:48] <Daemonic> is*
[05:49] <Dead_Pixel> hmw ok thanks
[05:49] <ZykoticK9> Daemonic, not gone, but temporarily unavailable
[05:49] <Daemonic> wow that really sucks.
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> Daemonic, i agree - see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810
[05:50] <David-A> stealth: there is a history of whats done in synaptic package manager. if you apt-get removed i dont know. there is .bash_history if not too long ago and sudo should have a log, but dont know where and if enabeled by default
[05:50] <polydeuces> inglor: Do you know what this means? Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 8107f5f88b8d807b9f5d3ca11477271f is different from ec01f5c68bf3feb7fa0b00cfe951bb7b
[05:50] <MrGoodkat> any decent script/program to convert dts to ac3 in mkvs?
[05:51] <MrGoodkat> aften always reports a buffer error
[05:51] <puser> Hello, I can't figure out what happened. I get - ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted, when ping, also, my internet seems to be completley blocked. How do I revert it to default, so that my internet works again?
[05:51] <inglor> polydeuces: an MD5 checksum is your program's digital isgnature, since it has a different signature it is assuming it is corrupt
[05:51] <polydeuces> Well that's no good!
[05:51] <plasmator> Hi, my ubuntu doesn't work can someone help me
[05:51] <inglor> polydeuces: yep, and it also means the problem is not with ubuntu, it's with the install file
[05:52] <inglor> !ask
[05:52] <polydeuces> There are plenty of other Linux/Ubuntu users playing this game... I'm not sure where to get the file, then.
[05:52] <polydeuces> Any suggestions?
[05:52] <plasmator> Why does my ubuntu look like Windows?
[05:52] <inglor> polydeuces: if you want a "dirty" hack around this I can help you, but it's not good education
[05:52] <inglor> plasma, what do you mean?
[05:52] <NinoScript> what file system is better for handling relatively large files? I'm doing a data-only partition in which I'll put my music/movies, and I sometimes get 5 or 10 GB movies in 1 file
[05:52] <inglor> Plasmastar: what do you mean?
[05:52] <plasmator> It looks like Windows not Ubuntu
[05:52] <polydeuces> Inglor: LOL. How do you mean? And what would be 'good' education? ;)
[05:53] <inglor> polydeuces: good education is working md5 sums, bad education means open the file with text editor (gedit)
[05:53] <MrGoodkat> plasmator what does look like windows?
[05:53] <techhelper1> hdd + clonezilla = Long Time Crunch
[05:53] <MrGoodkat> the desktop/
[05:53] <plasmator> the whole thing looks like windows
[05:53] <techhelper1> I need to run SpinRite
[05:53] <inglor> polydeuces: then go to the line that says MD5 = and change it to 8107f5f88b8d807b9f5d3ca11477271f is
[05:53] <MrGoodkat> maybe you booted into windows
[05:54] <CaptainTrek> perhaps you did boot to windows, plasmator
[05:54] <polydeuces> Hm, I'll give it a shot. Thanks inglor!
[05:54] <plasmator> it even says 'starting windows'
[05:54] <polydeuces> I'll let you know how it goes.
[05:54] <techhelper1> you are booting windows
[05:54] <inglor> polydeuces: "8107f5f88b8d807b9f5d3ca11477271f" which is what it outputted, like I said, this is a BAD solution, at least try fetching the file again and see one more time if it works
[05:54] <crucialhoax> plasmator: Dude, you are in windows... No worries here. :)
[05:54] <techhelper1> Starting Windows = Windows 7
[05:54] <plasmator> but I installed ubuntu
[05:54] <inglor> polydeuces: bad MD5 sum usually means a problem in downloading the file
[05:54] <polydeuces> I'll try downloading again, first, then.
[05:54] <techhelper1> did you install the bootloader that came with it
[05:54] <techhelper1> or is that auto now
[05:55] <plasmator> what is a bootloader
[05:55] <MrGoodkat> if you installed it in addition to windows you have to install the bootloader too
[05:55] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: Try redownloading the file and check it again.
[05:55] <plasmator> i installed ubuntu
[05:55] <plasmator> it said it worked
[05:55] <hmw> techhelper1: since when was Ubuntu NOT installing Grub or Grub 2?
[05:55] <inglor> plasmator: did you install ubuntu ALONGSIDE windows or INSTEAD OF windows?
[05:55] <techhelper1> plasmator a bootloader manages the 2 installs
[05:55] <techhelper1> meaning you should have the option to choose between the 2
[05:55] <MrGoodkat> plasmator https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[05:55] <plasmator> it gave me a window saying it worked when I installed it though
[05:56] <plasmator> I never got a choice
[05:56] <inglor> plasmator, did you install ubuntu from within windows by any chance?
[05:56] <techhelper1> when it boots up does it give you the option to push Esc and a countdown
[05:56] <polydeuces> inglor: When I try running in terminal, it says "Permission denied." Is there a better way around it than going into properties and manually giving permission?
[05:56] <plasmator> it doesn't give me any options it just says starting windows
[05:57] <inglor> polydeuces: sudo
[05:57] <inglor> !sudo
[05:57] <inglor> and if it's a graphical game use gksudo instead
[05:57] <techhelper1> then you need to install the boot loader, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[05:57] <Tired2> does ubuntu support magicjack?
[05:57] <plasmator> I did install it from inside windows
[05:57] <inglor> polydeuces: that makes you run it as the superuser having ''almost'' all permissions
[05:57] <plasmator> Firefox specifically
[05:58] <polydeuces> okay, I think it's just an install file, though. so do I just do sudo ./DofusInstall.run ?
[05:58] <inglor> plasmator, that means you installed wubi and that makes sense
[05:58] <plasmator> what is wubi, I think my kid watches that on nickelodeon
[05:58] <techhelper1> did you run wubi?
[05:58] <plasmator> oh wait that's wubsy
[05:58] <inglor> polydeuces, that should work if I recall, you can also sh ./stuff.run
[05:58] <inglor> !wubi | plasmator
[05:58] <plasmator> I didn't see anything that said wubi
[05:58] <polydeuces> Okay, I'll give it a shot. Thanks Inglor! I'll keep you posted.
[05:58] <rafaelsoaresbr> Successfully installed Ubuntu 9.10 here, thank you all!
[05:58] <MrGoodkat> wubi sets up the boatloader though
[05:58] <techhelper1> !vm
[05:59] <inglor> polydeuces: sure
[05:59] <MrGoodkat> plasmator how did you install ubuntu?
[05:59] <techhelper1> !vm | plasmator
[05:59] <plasmator> I clicked on ubuntu
[05:59] <plasmator> duh
[05:59] <MrGoodkat> and then?
[05:59] <MrGoodkat> where did you click on ubuntu?
[05:59] <MrGoodkat> did you run it from a cd?
[05:59] <inglor> MrGoodkat, but I believe that it keeps windows as the default OS meaning when you boot you have to notice ubuntu and choose it
[05:59] <plasmator> no from the internet
[05:59] <techhelper1> plasmator did you run wubi or boot from a cd
[05:59] <MrGoodkat> how do you install ubuntu from the internet?
[05:59] <techhelper1> wubi meaning did you install it from windows
[06:00] <MrGoodkat> you probably only downloaded it
[06:00] <techhelper1> MrGoodkat: Netboot
[06:00] <plasmator> I clicked ubuntu and it said it worked
[06:00] <polydeuces> Hm, inglor: I'm still getting an error on the checksums.
[06:00] <techhelper1> which let's you download and install using the internet
[06:00] <techhelper1> well did it say that in windows or on the cd, Plasmastar
[06:00] <MrGoodkat> techhelper1 netboot doesnt let you install ubuntu via firefox afaik
[06:01] <plasmator> why would the cd say something I had no cd
[06:01] <inglor> polydeuces, ok, then I guess you can try opening the file with gedit and changing the checksum yourself, maybe they updated the game and forgot to update the checksum
[06:01] <techhelper1> that is true
[06:01] <polydeuces> Okay, sounds good. What did you say to change it to? The output?
[06:01] <MrGoodkat> plasmator do you have the link you clicked?
[06:01] <plasmator> yes
[06:01] <techhelper1> what is that
[06:01] <plasmator> ubuntu
[06:01] <MrGoodkat> can you post the link here please
[06:01] <techhelper1> ...
[06:01] <techhelper1> what did you download exactly
[06:02] <techhelper1> post that link
[06:02] <plasmator> Ubuntu Home Page
[06:02] <inglor> polydeuces: try that, it might or might not work depending what the MD5 check is comparing to
[06:02] <plasmator> change is coming
[06:02] <MrGoodkat> that only downloads ubuntu
[06:02] <polydeuces> Will do, thanks again.
[06:02] <MrGoodkat> it doesnt install it
[06:02] <plasmator> But it said it was successful
[06:02] <MrGoodkat> the download was probably successful
[06:02] <plasmator> It said ubuntu successful
[06:03] <MrGoodkat> that page allows you to download an image which you have to burn on cd
[06:03] <plasmator> why do you make it so hard to install ubuntu
[06:03] <polydeuces> Hm, inglor: when I try to open it in gedit, I get this error message. gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.
[06:03] <polydeuces> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[06:03] <polydeuces> Select a character coding from the menu and try again.
[06:03] <MrGoodkat> it even did say it there
[06:03] <plasmator> should I try restarting again
[06:03] <MrGoodkat> 1. Download Ubuntu 2. Burn your Ubuntu Cd 3. Install Ubuntu
[06:03] <inglor> polydeuces, you ARE trying to open a binary file :) hmm, any other editor should work
[06:03] <MrGoodkat> you should burn the image you downloaded to a cd
[06:04] <polydeuces> ah, I see. Thanks :)
[06:04] <MrGoodkat> and then boot your computer with the cd
[06:04] <plasmator> burn?
[06:04] <inglor> polydeuces: the thing is I looked at the installer and it's part bash and part compiled
[06:04] <plasmator> That doesn't sound nice
[06:04] <polydeuces> say Hmm... So what does that mean?
[06:04] <plasmator> how do i burn images to cds
[06:05] <hmw> the ubottu link for rescuing files seems to be quite excellent! thanks! With a little luck I could even get my data back :)
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> plasmator, verify what ISO you are downloading - i DO NOT recommend you install 10.04 (the Change is Coming link), use stable 9.10 instead
[06:05] <inglor> polydeuces: that you can open and edit the bash part of it
[06:05] <plasmator> what is ISO
[06:05] <plasmator> In Search Of?
[06:05] <MrGoodkat> plasmator if you are on windows use "nero"
[06:05] <polydeuces> I see. Is there a specific editor I should be using?
[06:05] <plasmator> hero?
[06:05] <plasmator> oh nero
[06:05] <plasmator> what is nero
[06:05] <inglor> gconf should work but any other editor should work as well
[06:05] <MrGoodkat> a program that allows you to burn ubuntu on a cd
[06:05] <plasmator> why does ubuntu just not do that though
[06:06] <MrGoodkat> maybe you should stay with windows though ;)
[06:06] <MrGoodkat> ubuntu does that too
[06:06] <plasmator> are you patronizing me mrgoodkat
[06:06] <polydeuces> Okay, I'll give that a go
[06:06] <MrGoodkat> but you dont have ubuntu installed yet
[06:06] <inglor> plasmator, I suggest that you get help from your local ubuntu community, ubuntu is not hard to use for people with computing experience, but if you don't know computing basics
[06:06] <MrGoodkat> so you have to go with what windows offers
[06:06] <kman> Zen.  tyvm.  My system is up and running again.
[06:07] <plasmator> where do i find my 'local ubuntu community' is there a secret handshake or something
[06:07] <inglor> plasmator, I'm sure your local community can guide you through the installation process and can probably help you get used to ubuntu. you'll probably even find it easier to use eventually
[06:07] <hmw> a nice burning program for windows is "Deep Burner PORTABLE" to be downloaded from www.portableapps.com
[06:07] <inglor> plasmator, well if you tell us where you live we can find it for you, or you can use the internet
[06:07] <kman> And thanks to the others that helped as well.
[06:07] <plasmator> the internet has been no help thus far, it told me ubuntu successful even though it apparently wasn't
[06:07] <MrGoodkat> plasmator https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[06:07] <geekphreak> kman: how did it go?
[06:07] <MrGoodkat> a list of the communities
[06:08] <geekphreak> kman:  good news :)
[06:08] <numen> hi
[06:08] <numen> i have problem with ubuntu 9.1
[06:08] <inglor> !ask | numan
[06:08] <pepee> hmw, use infrarecorder
[06:08] <polydeuces> Hey inglor, where can I get gconf?
[06:08] <numen> inglor just wait, im writing^^
[06:08] <plasmator> What is with the community thing
[06:08] <kman> I ran the sue apt-get update.  this game me an error but a suggestion to run another apt-get command.  Ran it and voila I'm back up and running.
[06:08] <inglor> polydeuces: gedit I meant -_-
[06:08] <plasmator> is Ubuntu some communist thing?
[06:09] <red2kic> plasmator: Stick with Windows. That toy is tainted for terrible trolls.
[06:09] <techhelper1> yes
[06:09] <numen> when i watch a movie or listen to musik on x, sound is very bad
[06:09] <polydeuces> Oh, I can't open it via gedit for some reason. Is there something I have to do?
[06:09] <numen> but when i switch to shell, sound is good, but still running in x
[06:09]  * sinistrad smells a troll
[06:09] <techhelper1> plasmator you forgot to install the bootloader that was all
[06:09] <numen> it is an nforce4 board with enabled 5.1 sound
[06:09] <kman> Thanks geek.  Now it;s time for bed.
[06:09] <numen> i use pulseaudio
[06:09] <geekphreak> kman: great
[06:09] <MrGoodkat> techhelper1 it sounds like he only downloaded it
[06:09] <numen> where could be the problem?
[06:09] <MrGoodkat> he said he didnt burn a cd
[06:10] <DankNugs> together we stand; divided we fall. communist = good. poor troll.
[06:10] <techhelper1> did get get a iso file
[06:10] <kman> Have a good night.  you guys are great.
[06:10] <techhelper1> on his computer
[06:10] <inglor> maybe gedit is just being annoying, try to open it with vi
[06:10] <polydeuces> vi?
[06:10] <plasmator> sorry guys, I couldn't resist. :)
[06:10] <inglor> plasmator, you should've at least been funnier
[06:10] <red2kic> polydeuces: Use nano instead. It is more *comfortable* for beginners.
[06:10] <MrGoodkat> numen have you tried to kill pulseaudio before you start the music?
[06:10]  * plasmator has been using Linux for 15 years :P
[06:10] <inglor> yeah, I guess nano is easier
[06:10] <polydeuces> Okay, I'll give it a shot
[06:11] <hmw> those illegal communist <strike>operating</strike> hacker systems will crush civilization, beware!
[06:11] <plasmator> inglor:  Yeah but there's that fine line between funny and unbelievable
[06:11] <DankNugs> vi > yuo
[06:11] <numen> MrGoodkat then i have no sound
[06:11] <plasmator> If the communist thing would have taken off, it would have been good
[06:11] <MrGoodkat> numen pulseaudio restarts on its own
[06:11] <numen> you mean with pulseauido -k ?
[06:11] <polydeuces> red2kic, is it NEdit?
[06:12] <hmw> plasmator: trolling is always failing. find a better hobby. Perhaps build your own Linux? www.linuxfromscratch.org
[06:12] <MrGoodkat> killall pulseaudio should do it
[06:12] <red2kic> polydeuces: nano. If you want GUI, use gedit. I like geany myself. :3
[06:12] <plasmator> hmw:  been there done that man
[06:12] <hmw> do it again :)
[06:12] <polydeuces> where do I get these?
[06:12] <plasmator> before linuxfromscratch.org was around, even :)
[06:12] <polydeuces> do I just sudo apt-get install ?
[06:12] <numen> MrGoodkat the strange thing is, that sound becomes good, when i switch to shell
[06:13] <plasmator> eh, some trolls are bad but mine was all in good fun
[06:13] <hmw> plasmator: well.. in this case, try to send some positive karma waves into my hard drive in order to get it revived.
[06:13] <red2kic> polydeuces: Meh. I only offered you an alternative. I'm not sure what you're trying to do.  Do this -- "gedit /name/of/file/troll.txt" or something similar.
[06:13] <plasmator> what's up with your hdd, hmw?
[06:13] <DankNugs> if you're in root shell no need for sudo
[06:13] <inglor> polydeuces: you just type sudo nano yourfile.run
[06:13] <hmw> plasmator: it died for apparently no reason.
[06:13] <plasmator> what brand?
[06:13] <inglor> it's a text line editor, looks old but because it is old it is stupid :P
[06:14] <hmw> maxtor. not a hardware failure, it seems.
[06:14] <bscape> hi, for some reason whenever i use xsetbg it puts up the image.  but then when i reboot the image goes away, does anyone know why it does that? i'm running ion3 on 9.10 minimal install
[06:14] <polydeuces> Ah, THERE we go
[06:14] <plasmator> maxtor is one to steer clear of, how are you defining hardware failure?
[06:15] <hmw> plasmator: it doesnt show IO errors. Perhaps a bad cable or something, but not really "damaged"... scanning it right now, in hope of getting the partition back
[06:15] <red2kic> hmw: By the way, hard drives are the most instable computing device in the machines. That's why servers regularly make backups.
[06:15] <inglor> yeah, hard drives are just so unreliable -_-
[06:16] <plasmator> HDDs and Power supplies are the most likely to fail, moving parts.
[06:16] <DankNugs> too bad there are some upsides to flash :/
[06:16] <numen> why not use ssds?
[06:16] <plasmator> hmw:  You just lost partition and that was it?
[06:16] <inglor> plasmator: thing is you can get good power supplies that rarely fail but good hdds also fail pretty bad -_-
[06:16] <plasmator> inglor: true
[06:17] <hmw> red2kic: last time i actually lost data was on my 486 with a 800 MB HD. THis time I only lost a lot of videos. I know that I want to do backup regularly. plasmator: i suddenly noticed, that some bookmarks had disappeared and then I found my drive in a deep identity crisis.
[06:17] <polydeuces> inglor: once I'm done editing the file in nano, how do I save/exit?
[06:17] <geekphreak> polydeuces: ctrl+x to exit
[06:18] <inglor> ctl+x
[06:18] <WXZ> first day using, I accidentally removed the equivalent of the "system tray"
[06:18] <nomad77> hmw: i've used testdidk,not infallable but works a lot
[06:18] <plasmator> hmw:  well when you replace it, try seagate or hitachi ultrastar.  Seagate had issues last year but they're still among the best.
[06:18] <WXZ> how do I get it back on the panel?
[06:18] <hmw> polydeuces: press CTRL+X (eXit) then Y ("Yes, write") and ENTER. Look at the bootom of your screen to understand the menu.
[06:18] <nomad77> hmw:  sorry typo testdisk
[06:18] <polydeuces> Got it, thanks!
[06:18] <inglor> polydeuces: well, does it install?
[06:19] <polydeuces> inglor: don't know yet, trying in a moment
[06:19] <David-A> hmw: my harddrives usually lives 1-5 years. currently have maxtor that have worked well for more than 3 years now.
[06:19] <hmw> nomad77: i am running gpart right now. perhaps i'll try the other programs, too. GOt a nice link from ubottu to a nice page with fool-proof instructions.
[06:19] <inglor> WXZ, the top or bottom panel?
[06:19] <aetaric> !ot
[06:19] <numen> i think, on harddisks, the manufacturer is not the most important
[06:19] <numen> each one has bad series
[06:20] <hmw> aetaric is right, we're getting off-topic.
[06:20] <red2kic> !panels | WXZ
[06:20] <polydeuces> Hmm, inglor: it seems to have compromised the .run filetype once I did that
[06:21] <polydeuces> I tried 'sh ./stuff.run' and it called me stupid.
[06:21] <inglor> polydeuces: what error?
[06:21] <hmw> anyone used gpart to find "lost" partitions before? I would have expected almost immediate results, since there is (was) only one partition on the drive - or will it show the result only after scanning the whole drive?
[06:21] <polydeuces> LOL.
[06:21] <polydeuces> Hang on.
[06:21] <polydeuces> sh: can't open DofusInstall.run
[06:21] <red2kic> !recovery | hmw
[06:21] <red2kic> hmw: Meh. That is not it.
[06:22] <MrGoodkat> any way to convert dts to ac3 in mkvs? would be great if it were a one step script or program
[06:22] <pepee> hmw, use cfdis
[06:22] <pepee> *cfdisk
[06:22] <MrGoodkat> and not many steps
[06:22] <polydeuces> once I saved it, it changed the filetype to DofusInstall.run.save and I think it messed it up.
[06:22] <red2kic> !undelete | hmw
[06:22] <proq> can someone point me to a list of what packages to remove to remove gnome? I don't have a server CD handy and I need to strip down my system for quick running on virtualbox
[06:22] <inglor> polydeuces: so rename it and then run it :P
[06:23] <chelz> hmw: if you give it a range it'll work faster
[06:23] <hmw> red2kic: this page does not answer my question, it only gives instructions on how to use it. I want to know, if I should let it run for hours or if I already could deduce, that it wont work
[06:23] <polydeuces> I did, it didn't work.
[06:23] <polydeuces> It wouldn't even let me change the permissions on it
[06:23] <boblemur> proq: do you still need X?
[06:23] <red2kic> proq: "aptitude show ubuntu-desktop" --- That would be a good start.
[06:24] <boblemur> proq: because if you dont then you can just remove the X server and this will drop ubuntu back to cli, perhaps installing the server version or the mini iso's might also be a good idea if you want a lean ubuntu
[06:24] <inglor> polydeuces: the thing is the script is made with Makeself, if you had the sourcecode you could compile it nicely yourself, but since it is 2 files combined I'm not really sure
[06:25] <red2kic> hmw: The best bet is to dd your "damaged" partition/hdd to external HDD or such. Then you could run any tests on it. You're just copying the hard drive (binaries) in a nutshell.
[06:25] <polydeuces> Hm, I think I understand. I'll see if I can hunt around on the forums for a solution.
[06:25] <polydeuces> thanks for all your helpful advice, though :)
[06:25] <inglor> what you get is the "Error in MD5 checksums: $md5sum is different from $md5"
[06:25] <sobczyk> hi, is there a way to set separate wallpapers on a streched desktop? (2 monitors having different resolution)
[06:25] <hmw> red2kic: Nope. 1TB --> 250 GB situation. Thanks, though.
[06:26] <red2kic> sobczyk: Use GIMP to combine images? :(
[06:26] <inglor> polydeuces: see, I think that what's messing with it is the documentation they added themselves :P
[06:26] <sobczyk> red2kic, I hoped someone wrote a siple ap :(
[06:26] <hmw> sobczyk: not without heavy tweaking of gnome/nautilus (perhaps compiling stuff on your own)
[06:26] <polydeuces> inglor: how do you mean? they intentionally make it not work?
[06:26] <inglor> polydeuces: you can always run it under wine if you want
[06:27] <hmw> sobczyk: perhaps you can find a way to get the wallpaper stretch over 2 screens and make an accordingly larger one
[06:27] <inglor> polydeuces: not intentionally, by mistake...
[06:27] <red2kic> hmw: "sudo blkid" -- See if it recognize the filesystem (at least).
[06:27] <sobczyk> and is there a way to read both monitors setup? (x, y coordinates and width height)
[06:27] <inglor> polydeuces: if you don't want to mess with it too much you can always run it under wine
[06:27] <polydeuces> inglor: I haven't used wine yet, would I have to do it every time?
[06:27] <inglor> polydeuces: all wine does is translate directX and win32 commands to openGL , so it doesn't slow stuff
[06:27] <sobczyk> it would be possible to write a scipr using imagemgic to combine 2 wallpapers, if monitor position data could be obtained
[06:28] <red2kic> sobczyk: Write a script. :)  Personally, I find GIMP nice and easy to use.
[06:28] <inglor> it lets you run windows apps on linux without an emulator
[06:28] <David-A> hmw: if you use a rescue program that finds and copies individual files, will they fit in 250GB? (that is was the 1TB less than 25% full?)
[06:28] <inglor> (hence the name... Wine Is Not an Emulator)
[06:28] <hmw> lol. no. it was like 95% full...
[06:28] <polydeuces> Oh, neato. Hm, perhaps I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the advice!
[06:29] <hmw> i alredy swallowed the loss. just trying, perhaps I get lucky.
[06:29] <zch3> Does anyone know why I cant download " tor tor-geoipdb"  using the co'?mmand 'sudo apt-get install tor-geoipdb
[06:29] <inglor> polydeuces: just installed your dofus game in wine to see if it works and it works perfectly
[06:29] <red2kic> sobczyk: I don't know the correct way to retrieve x,y,blah,blah but "xrandr | grep \*" could do it. I'm not sure about the second monitor (or even if it's showing up in xrandr too).
[06:29] <inglor> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3395
[06:30] <David-A> hmw: so not much you can do until you have a new big disk? (unless you find a safe method of fixing faulty disk)
[06:30] <m00se> any ops around want to help out in ##windows please?
[06:30] <m00se> madman loose
[06:30] <m00se> no ops available
[06:30] <red2kic> m00se: See #freenode for support.
[06:30] <m00se> I have - in there now - no one awake
[06:31] <nomad77> hmw: i've restored partition tables before with testdisk. but ymmv
[06:31] <sobczyk> red2kic, ok i see xrandr displays "LCD connected 1600x900+0+0" and "CRT1 connected 1680x1050+1600+22" so it's easy to filter out the positions
[06:31] <polydeuces> good to know! thanks!
[06:31] <polydeuces> I used terminal to apt-get install wine, is that going to work OK?
[06:31] <sobczyk> red2kic, thx
[06:31] <inglor> polydeuces: might :) lemme check something else
[06:32] <inglor> polydeuces: yep, should
[06:32] <znxtch> Could anyone help me with the installation of Tor?
[06:32] <polydeuces> awesome, thanks!
[06:34] <proq> boblemur: yes, thanks.  I need X and I will be running ratpoison
[06:35] <David-A> hmw: 95% full means there might be fragmentation, so rescue programs that finds individual files has less chans of finding all files.
[06:36] <red2kic> hmw: NTFS?
[06:36] <hmw> David-A: since I only collected movies and didnt move/delete much stuff, i doubt it will be fragmented massively. NTFS.
[06:38] <red2kic> hmw: You're a good person. Making legal backup of your shiny movies you bought. Also, NTFS = Fragmentation. One of the good ways to corrupt the partition is to max out the hard drive. Just because you have 1TB does not mean you have 1TB... Very much less.
[06:39] <xiven> How come the tutorial for setting up polymer theme on ubuntuforums.com doesn't match the qt config program?
[06:39] <hmw> red2kic: indeed, i own most of the movies. I always rip them to divx after i found a cheap DVD in the store and never use the DVDs to watch them. sic!
[06:39] <spat> what is preferred apt or aptitude?
[06:39] <hmw> putting in disks is so stone age
[06:39] <lisa__> does anyone know how to look at files on a cd using ubuntu on a sun virtual box?
[06:40] <rww> spat: (assuming you mean apt-get) In Ubuntu, it shouldn't matter. Use whichever you prefer.
[06:40] <David-A> hmw: i must go and rest. the robots first link, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery , seems to me to have good info. hope it works out well for you.
[06:40] <red2kic> spat: It is more of preferences. apt or aptitude or synapthic or Ubuntu Software Center -- They all will get the job done.
[06:40] <hmw> spat: apt and aptitude are cool for the command line, aptitude also has some UI
[06:40] <lisa__> i know it's a stupid question
[06:40] <hmw> David-A thanks. Good night!
[06:40] <spat> hmw: I'm a server admin,,,
[06:41] <hmw> spat: it is a matter of taste, i'd say. Aptitude might make finding stuff easier, but you'd need to know the shortcuts.
[06:41] <spat> hmw: as long as they both work consistend and reliable
[06:41] <David-A> hmw: youre welcome, byebye
[06:41] <xiven> Do the developers leave any part of Gnome/KDE alone...
[06:42] <xiven> I keep finding all kinds of customizations within K/Ubuntu..
[06:43] <spat> hmw: Never had a problem learning shortcuts for a command often used. will give aptitude a try. Thank you
[06:43] <hmw> spat: i guess you will like aptitude. I prefer apt for my scripts for no real reason.
[06:45] <Alcor> hi
[06:45] <hmw> !hi | Alcor
[06:47] <Alcor> where can i find out data -- channel for rootkit?
[06:48] <Alcor> I use it in my ubunto box
[06:48] <nomad77> !rootkit > Alcor
[06:50] <nomad77> Alcor: i'd run chkrootkit and rootkithunter first
[06:50] <Alcor> sry nomad77 i run rkhunter
[06:52] <Tryptographer> hi; in lucid lynx with the default gui how I do I force the permanent remapping of the caps lock key to be another control key?
[06:52] <Tryptographer> er
[06:52] <Tryptographer> sorry
[06:52] <Tryptographer> Return key
[06:52] <Tryptographer> I meant that.
[06:52] <FloodBot1> Tryptographer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:52] <xiven> I bet if I got some people together to write a system like Ubuntu, without all the patches overriding Qt, and GTK stuff I could make a lot of money
[06:53] <xiven> Or, can you just write modifications which would change all of the patches so  the Ubuntu changes don't matter?
[06:53] <hmw> Tryptographer: check out http://harald.ist.org/self-pc/tricks/linux/howto/disable-menu-key.html
[06:54] <Tryptographer> hmw: I don't want to do that every time I switch the keyboard layout.
[06:54] <Alcor> my bad -- i am looking for data about rkhunter
[06:55] <chripher> hello
[06:55] <hmw> Tryptographer: i see... i have no idea, how you could achieve this
[06:55] <hmw> !hi | chripher
[06:56] <nomad77> Alcor: http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html  << projects homepage
[06:56] <mneptok> Tryptographer: Lucid questions belong in #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <Alcor> thx -- no channell?
[06:56] <chripher> I have a problem with the subversion guide for ubuntu
[06:56] <tomato> i just hooked up my gigabit switch to my ubuntu server and a dns323, i'm using rsync to copy files from the dns323 to my server but i'm only getting 10 MB/s, is this normal?
[06:56] <Tryptographer> mneptok: thank you
[06:57] <aetaric> tomato: 1GB/s is the maximum throughput. you will likely never actually get data going that fast
[06:58] <nomad77> Alcor: maybe #linux-security if one exists
[06:58] <chripher> hmv: can you help me?
[06:58] <mneptok> !ask | chripher
[06:58] <boblemur> chripher: whatn help to you need?
[06:58] <hmw> i dont know subversion really. and ...
[06:58] <hmw> !ask | chripher
[06:59] <Alcor> thx i hadnt found one - did find the home page...
[06:59] <chripher> anybody knows suberversion
[06:59] <mneptok> chripher: ask. the. question.
[06:59] <boblemur> chripher: ask you damn question
[07:00] <boblemur> your*
[07:00] <tomato> aetaric: that's gigabits per second right, not gigabytes?
[07:00] <aetaric> !language | boblemur
[07:00] <mneptok> boblemur: be polite.
[07:00] <boblemur> sorry :(
[07:00] <aetaric> tomato: yes.
[07:00] <hmw> i want a GByte/s HD
[07:00] <aetaric> hmw: try a SSD
[07:01] <clarkb> I dont think SSDs have that much throughput
[07:01] <clarkb> you'll need RAID without the I part
[07:01] <chripher> when I write "$ svn co http://hostname/svn/myproject myproject --username user_name"  it does not know my password
[07:01] <shazbotmcnasty> hmw, there is a raptor that apparently just came out with a 6Gb/s drive
[07:01] <shazbotmcnasty> but you also need a motherboard that supports it
[07:01] <aetaric> tomato: factors like system load and other network traffic will slow it down
[07:01] <tomato> aetaric: thanks, but isn't that like 122 megabytes/s? I'm only getting 10 MB/s so I'm wondering if i'm not configuring something correctly
[07:02] <tomato> aetaric: thanks, i'm also using cat5 cables instead of cat6, could that be it?
[07:02] <hmw> oh, wow, didnt know about that one, shazbotmcnasty. I was just thinking of that youtub vid "samsung ssd awesomeness"...
[07:02] <shazbotmcnasty> well you can google raptor, I just got an ad from newegg a few days ago for that hdd
[07:03] <aetaric> tomato: it is only in the standard, you could use cat3 really, they just want you to use cat6.
[07:03] <aetaric> it has "better quality wires"
[07:03] <tomato> gotcha, thanks
[07:03] <boblemur> chripher: what are you using to host your svn? and what is the message it gives you (if its not too long to paste that is)
[07:04] <chripher> localhost and I do not get any error it just asks again and again
[07:04] <tomato> aetaric so it's normal to get 10 megabytes per second instead of 100 megabytes per second? i was hoping for something around the middle, like 50 megabytes per second
[07:04] <aetaric> tomato: as a side note, i've never seen 1GB/s on my network and it is all Cisco catalyst equiptment.
[07:04] <boblemur> chripher: so why are you using http:// to connect to localhost? you can just use svn co /path/to/svn/repo
[07:05] <aetaric> tomato: well how many hosts are there on the switch?
[07:05] <tomato> yeah, i understand i won't be getting 100 megabytes per second, but i was hoping for half that
[07:05] <tomato> only 2, my nas (dns323) and my ubuntu server
[07:05] <aetaric> tomato: both have gigabit cards?
[07:05] <chripher> boblemur: I plan to setup svn on another server but I use localhost now
[07:05] <tomato> yeah, server has gigabit onboard (not sure if its any good) and the dns323 has it onboard too
[07:06] <Daemonic> I like tunafish
[07:06] <boblemur> chripher: ok, well will you have ssh for that server?
[07:06] <aetaric> tomato: not sure, it could just be that one of the systems has a high load.
[07:07] <boblemur> chripher: cause if you do... try svn+ssh://localhost/path/to/svn/repo
[07:07] <tomato> aetaric: okay thanks, that might be it, the dns323 is just a nas, might be overloaded
[07:08] <aetaric> tomato: no problem, glad i could put my CCNA to use for once.
[07:09] <TomG> aetaric: Sorry to interrupt.  I simply overheard it.  How hard was it to obtain CCNA?
[07:09] <chripher> boblemur: port refused
[07:09] <boblemur> chripher: do you have ssh installed?
[07:10] <aetaric> TomG: not really hard. i got it in high school...
[07:10] <chripher> boblemur: no at the moment I want http to work
[07:10] <TomG> aetaric: That's a bit reassuring.  Thank you for the answer.
[07:10] <clarkb> though the requirements change over time
[07:11] <clarkb> I think that matter for > CCNA
[07:11] <chripher> boblemur: what does htpasswd2 means it says in the guide "It prompts you to enter the password. You must enter the password configured using htpasswd2 command.
[07:11] <aetaric> TomG: no problem. i failed the exam the first time though...
[07:11] <boblemur> chripher: have you installed a webserver?
[07:11] <chripher> boblemur: "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion" the guide I use
[07:11] <chripher> boblemur: yes
[07:11] <aetaric> subnetting should be burned with a *VERY* hot fire
[07:12] <boblemur> chripher:ok so where abouts are you upto?
[07:12] <clarkb> aetaric: isnt subnetting what allowed ipv4 to last so long?
[07:12] <clarkb> that and NAT
[07:13] <chripher> boblemur: cat /etc/subversion/passwd givs me user_name:cj7E6cw77X8W6
[07:13] <TomG> clarkb: Do you think ipv4 should have lasted this long?
[07:13] <gonzalo> hello, I use ubuntu 9.10, I've installed Amarok 2 but when I play the songs I can't hear anything, any clue?
[07:13] <aetaric> clarkb: yes. but you have to subnet on the CCNA test, without a calc
[07:13] <clarkb> aetaric: its easy
[07:13] <clarkb> powers of two
[07:13] <boblemur> chripher: where in the guide did you get upto?
[07:14] <nomnex> how can I increase the font size on IM Empathy?
[07:14] <chripher> boblemur: just before Access via WebDAV protocol with SSL encryption (https://)
[07:14] <clarkb> TomG: good point
[07:14] <aetaric> clarkb: yeah now do it on ipv6. :)
[07:14] <aetaric> oh wait, you don't have to... <3 ipv6
[07:14] <boblemur> chripher: have u tried using file:/// ?
[07:15] <chripher> boblemur: yes it works
[07:15] <boblemur> chripher: ok and have you configured webdav?
[07:16] <boblemur> chripher: Access via WebDAV protocol (http://) have you done this section???
[07:16] <boblemur> tomg: does your sound work anywhere else?
[07:16] <aetaric> TomG: i recommend you visit http://cisco.netacad.net and find an academy.
[07:16] <boblemur> sorry wrong person
[07:16] <TomG> I was about to say
[07:16] <boblemur> gonzalo: does your sound work anywhere else
[07:16] <xiven> I know this is Ubuntu, but no one in Kubuntu will respond..QtConfig is missing Library Path rab..where did it go?
[07:17] <chripher> boblemur: yes I used the second conf from the guide
[07:17] <aetaric> xiven: qtconifg? what is this?
[07:17] <xiven> QtConfig
[07:17] <TomG> Thank you aetaric.  I have been interested in certifications
[07:17] <xiven> Ubuntu Certifications?????
[07:17] <boblemur> chripher: do you mean this??? Access via WebDAV protocol with SSL encryption (https://)
[07:17] <aetaric> TomG: no problem. i have a few in M$ too
[07:17] <TomG> xiven: Now we're talking :P
[07:18] <xiven> I didn't know there were any
[07:18] <aetaric> there are
[07:18] <TomG> There are
[07:18] <takumidesh> hello, is there a room for help with Wine that i could join?
[07:18] <xiven> Plus, I don't take cert tests that are free
[07:18] <xiven> #wine isn't it
[07:18] <aetaric> ubuntu's cert test isn't free
[07:18] <takumidesh> xiven: #wine is empty
[07:18] <xiven> Yeah, not many cert tests are
[07:18] <chripher> boblemur: I want to get it to work as above that title eg without ssl first
[07:18] <TomG> Anyone certified Ubuntu?
[07:18] <xiven> $wine-hq
[07:18] <aetaric> TomG: you can get ipv6 certified from ipv6.he.net too
[07:19] <boblemur> chripher: ok so does going to localhost:80 in your broweser work?
[07:19] <TomG> Too many certs.  I get overwhelmed thinking about it
[07:19] <xiven> Heh...there isn't many certifications at all for Web Designers.
[07:19] <xiven> I wouldn't mind becoming Java and PHP certified, but it costs too much
[07:19] <TomG> Really?
[07:19] <TomG> I thought there were tons
[07:19] <chripher> boblemur: It works!
[07:19] <aetaric> wow. we are all WAY off topic. and it's all my fault. XD
[07:19] <xiven> I haven't found many
[07:20] <xiven> Not by well known companies anyway
[07:20] <TomG> Yeah, we're off topic.  And it's late here
[07:20] <TomG> I better get going for the night
[07:20] <aetaric> it is early here..... 2:20 AM
[07:20] <TomG> Eastern, like me
[07:20] <TomG> Ohio
[07:20] <aetaric> Georgia
[07:21] <TomG> Aww, I was hoping for you to say Ohio too, then I could have asked for a job :P
[07:21] <boblemur> chripher: ok so that page is ok, it means your apache is up, so you run the htpassword command?
[07:21] <aetaric> TomG: i'm unemployed...
[07:21] <TomG> That's even worse
[07:21] <TomG> Now there's no way I can sleep
[07:21] <aetaric> all those certs. and no job.
[07:22] <chripher> boblemur: yeap I did
[07:22] <takumidesh> Anyone here able to help me with a problem I'm having with Wine?
[07:22] <clarkb> dont know until you ask
[07:22] <blkperl> takumidesh: its best to just say the problem :)
[07:22] <TomG> A problem with Wine?  Who ever heard of such a thing?
[07:22] <chripher> boblemur: I see the crypted pass when I cat the file
[07:22] <boblemur> chripher: and did you add yourself to the svn group?
[07:23] <chripher> boblemur: yes I think so they told me so first thing in the guide don't they
[07:23] <blkperl> the problem is your using svn and not git :P
[07:23] <aetaric> i'd really like it if my magsafe would magically start providing the full 85w again
[07:23] <boblemur> chripher: did you log out and log back in?
[07:23] <chripher> boblemur: yes and I restarted the machine this morning
[07:23] <aetaric> blkperl: i like SVN more. i can commit from XCode
[07:24] <takumidesh> alrighty, I am trying to install the game Starcraft via the battle.net downloader. I download the executable and it runs fine but when i try to select a directory to install it tells me that the 'path is invalid' and closes. no matter where i try to install it tells me this error.
[07:24] <boblemur> git is better :)
[07:24] <Alcor> aetaric check in with Telephone co.  They have a big useless info dept...  Show them all the certs you have...
[07:24] <blkperl> aetaric: that doesn't make sense, git works with everything
[07:24] <clarkb> takumidesh: SC2?
[07:25] <blkperl> oh does xcode not have git support?
[07:25] <blkperl> thats sucks
[07:25] <boblemur> chripher: hmmm ok, have you looked at the logs for apache and stuff?
[07:25] <hateball> !wine | takumidesh
[07:25] <TomG> takumidesh: Sounds like a wine issue.  There's probably not much anyone can help outside the Wine page.
[07:25] <takumidesh> clarkb: no the first one
[07:25] <chripher> boblemur: where to find
[07:25] <aetaric> Alcor: i have no datacenter experiance. so no one wants to hire me.
[07:25] <aetaric> chripher: /var/log/apache
[07:25] <boblemur> chripher: /var/log/
[07:25] <takumidesh> ubottu: Ok i will check that out, thanks.
[07:26] <clarkb> I didnt realize they had an download installer for SC
[07:26] <blkperl> aetaric: http://rudifa.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/git-xcode-and-projectlocker/
[07:26] <blkperl> git & xcode
[07:26] <clarkb> takumidesh: installing off disc works great
[07:26] <Alcor> aetaric they need all the help they can get..  Pay is not bad either
[07:27] <takumidesh> clarkb: For some reason when i install from the disc it tells me to insert a non-existent disc 2.
[07:27] <aetaric> blkperl: you might just be my new hero. and if AT&T hires me, Alcor might take your place.
[07:27] <Alcor> heh
[07:27] <TomG> takumidesh: Yes, that happens with half the games under wine.  They want disks that don't exist
[07:27] <boblemur> chripher: i suggest you open another terminal window... and run "tail -f /var/log/apache" and then try and login and see if any new messages appear
[07:27] <chripher> boblemur: access.log ?
[07:27] <aetaric> blkperl: that is a no go. it isn't integrated.
[07:28] <clarkb> takumidesh: it wants the brood war disc
[07:28] <boblemur> chripher: possible by most of them should be in apache
[07:28] <clarkb> give it that disc and all is well
[07:28] <TomG> takumidesh:  I'd say try doing a minimal install.
[07:28] <steven__> offtoicp
[07:28] <clarkb> no no no
[07:28] <clarkb> it wants the brood war disc
[07:28] <steven__> !off
[07:28] <aetaric> we really are.
[07:28] <aetaric> !ot
[07:28] <takumidesh> so is there anyway to not install brood war, i don't have the disc at the moment
[07:28] <clarkb> takumidesh: I couldnt figure it out
[07:29] <theadmin> takumidesh: Maybe you'll have to ask in #winehq
[07:29] <clarkb> but as soon as I fed it brood war all was great
[07:29] <blkperl> aetaric: then you need to ditch xcode and go with vim :P
[07:29] <theadmin> This ain't the place
[07:29] <gonzalo> boblemur, thanks for your help, but I've already solved the problem, I needed the mp3 suppor
[07:29] <clarkb> I think it does the same thing installing in windows
[07:29] <theadmin> wtf
[07:29] <puser> Hello, I can't figure out what happened. I get - ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted, when ping, also, my internet seems to be completley blocked. How do I revert it to default, so that my internet works again?
[07:29] <aetaric> blkperl: i rather like xcode. vim isn't an ide.
[07:30] <theadmin> papul|offline: Stop that random nickchanging, please
[07:30] <aetaric> puser: you aren't in the networking group, or you have a wire loose somewhere
[07:30] <boblemur> gonzalo: thats ok glad you got it fixed
[07:30] <aetaric> ]!nick | papul|offline
[07:31] <chripher> boblemur: I posted it in a pm
[07:31] <aetaric> wow. that really just made ubottu fail hard
[07:31] <lucas-arg> hello, when compiz is enabled, the gnome-panel keeps on front of openoffice presentations, how can i solve this besides disabling compiz?
[07:31] <blkperl> aetaric: just use git via the command line, it will still work with xcode, just means you have to use the terminal :P
[07:32] <boblemur> chripher: ok ill reply there
[07:32] <gonzalo> does somebody use Listen media player? is it necessary to install something additional in order to wikipedia and lyrics to work?
[07:32] <theadmin> lucas-arg: I'd report this as a bug. As a temporary solution, I'd enable panel autohiding
[07:32] <puser> aetaric: the cable is ok, it's a gprs modem. It connects, and it only started happening yesterday. I am a linux newbie, I might configured something by mistake, but don't remember what.
[07:32] <lucas-arg> theadmin: thanks
[07:33] <aetaric> blkperl: xcode has cvs and svn already. no point in opening another App when i am trying to find bugs on the current head.
[07:33] <drd> blkperl: there are some things you'll want to change in your git config to have certain files treated as binary (xibs, for instance, and the project file) otherwise resolving conflicts is a total PITA
[07:33] <clarkb> eww cvs
[07:34] <steven__> i makeing a new OS for Linux what do you all think sould be on it
[07:34] <aetaric> i dislike cvs as well
[07:34] <clarkb> steven__: you mean a distro?
[07:34] <theadmin> steven__: That is offtopic... And how are you making it? o_O
[07:34] <aetaric> !distro
[07:34] <steven__> with in C++/c
[07:34] <clarkb> hey Arch++ isnt on that list
[07:35] <theadmin> ubottu: RPM > theadmin
[07:35] <theadmin> ...hm
[07:35] <blkperl> aetaric: don't use cvs for the love of god don't use cvs :P
[07:35] <aetaric> theadmin: RedHat Package Manager
[07:35] <theadmin> And "yum" results in "Err, don't you mean !apt?" :D
[07:35] <aetaric> blkperl: i don't i use svn+ssh
[07:35] <aetaric> or is it ssh+svn
[07:35] <napster> #ubuntu+1 is down?
[07:35] <ZykoticK9> napster, no
[07:36] <aetaric> napster: a channel can't be down
[07:36] <blkperl> well hopefully one day xcode gets a plugin for git++
[07:36] <steven__> i thinking about add sub 7 to in what you all think
[07:36] <lucas-arg> do we have fingerprint support in lucid?
[07:36] <napster> ZykoticK9, aetaric I can't join that channel, /join returns chennel unavailable
[07:36] <s73v3r> So I had an install of 8.04, that I've upgraded using the tool to 9.10. Now, I'm unable to use mplayer to convert ac3 audio to wav
[07:36] <theadmin> napster: Works here...
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> napster, /join #ubuntu+1
[07:37] <drd> steven__: what?
[07:37] <napster> theadmin, ZykoticK9 Huh, now it works... Sorry for the trouble...
[07:37] <aetaric> napster: works for me. maybe you got banned?
[07:37] <aetaric> oh fair enough
[07:37] <napster> aetaric, No way, I do not spam ;-)
[07:38] <s73v3r> I've enabled the medibuntu repositories, and downloaded a new ffmpeg from there, but still no dice. I keep getting a "could not connect to socket" error
[07:38] <theadmin> How do I make alltray minimize the right window? :/ I have an app which opens 2 windows when ran, it minimizes the wrong one
 got to off toicp
[07:39] <rocket16> Friends, if I select a better theme such as GreenTea, for Metacity, will it take more memory than the original themes? (I suspect it is taking slightly more memory, since Nautlis's memory consumption increased for 2 MB)
[07:39] <theadmin> *huh* nevermind, it seems to work now o_O
[07:40] <drd> steven__: sorry too many # already
[07:41] <rocket16> Also, Nautilus is taking more than 110 MB memory (I want my 512 MB Old Laptop to run faster, so I disabled Graphical-Effects, AWN and no sign of Compiz. I even boosted Ubuntu, and suspended Beagle Desktop search, still it does not seem to run that fast)
[07:41] <steven__> tthat cool
[07:42] <rocket16> I heard the Nautilus takes less than 50 MB on people's PCs, but why is it taking so much memory in my case? I tried to kill and restart the process, but it is always nearly 110MB
[07:42] <steven__> drd: i makeing a new OS do you know some you like to have on it
[07:42] <clarkb> rocket16: sounds like you need something other than ubuntu + gnome
[07:42] <theadmin> steven__: Offtopic here, go to #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there :/
[07:43] <steven__> thank you
[07:43] <theadmin> rocket16: Yeah, you might wanna try Lubuntu when it's out or Xubuntu.
[07:43] <rocket16> clarkb: No, I would like to stick to GNOME, and Ubuntu, because I tried LXDE, Xfce and many others, (even other Distors), but none of them suites my needs
[07:44] <rocket16> theadmin: Sorry, but Ubuntu is my first and foremost preference, :( And I run Kubuntu on my 8GB Desktop
[07:44] <clarkb> rocket16: then  Isuggest a hardware upgrade
[07:44] <theadmin> rocket16: Then maybe use another filemanager?... Altough Nautilus is responsible for desktop icons :/
[07:44] <clarkb> theadmin: I dont think you can have gnome without nautilus
[07:45] <rocket16> theadmin: I tried PCMan and Thunar, but that rips the heart of GNOME, and makes it more Xfce like, :(
[07:45] <rocket16> theadmin: Also, I tried Openbox instead of Metacity, but OpenBox, though fast, is difficult to cope up with, :(
[07:45] <shreymech> can any one tell that .. is it good to install ubuntu in virtual machine or should i make a seperate partition...???
[07:46] <theadmin> shreymech: Separate partition is a better idea.
[07:46] <rocket16> All is working fine for me, just this Nautilus thing isn't, :( Anyway to reduce it's memory intake?
[07:46] <theadmin> I had trouble getting networking to work in virtualbox + interpid :/
[07:46] <shreymech> thradmin, okk sir
[07:46] <shreymech> gtheadmin,ok sir
[07:46] <rocket16> Also, I have only Ubuntu installed, on my 80 GB HD, (old laptop), so Swap is adequete too,
[07:46] <blkperl> theadmin: how do you have troble with networking in virtualbox?
[07:47] <theadmin> blkperl: Dunno, Network Manager is all just "Device unavailable"
[07:47] <blkperl> hmm its automatic for me, i always get networking in VB
[07:47] <boblemur> theadmin: try the Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop adapter
[07:48] <nomad77> theadmin: think you need the vbox guest-additions pkg
[07:48] <rocket16> !nautilus
[07:48] <theadmin> boblemur: Uh look i'm not asking how to solve it lolz I have Ubuntu installed the normal way... that were those days when I was just "trying it out"...
[07:48] <shreymech> and one more query... does a SEAGATE external hardisk USB powered is UBUNTU compatibble..???? i need to purchase a external harddisk (USB powered) for my laptop installed with ubuntu... can any one suggest me a good cpmany and model of a very good external harddisk...????? thanx
[07:48] <Conf> hey can someone help me, i just installed kubuntu on my 1000HE netbook and although I can see my wireless network I can't connect to it
[07:49] <erkan^> !adobeair
[07:49] <theadmin> shreymech: Have a seagate here, more then satisfied
[07:49] <clarkb> shreymech: I would be surprised if any USB mass storage device was not linux compatible
[07:49] <boblemur> theadmin: im running virtualbox and the only adapter that worked for my guest was that one all the others didnt :)
[07:49] <rocket16> I once decided to try out Puppy, but really, it is no match for Ubuntu. (Puppy is great, fast and light, but for day-to-day work, it isn't enough)
[07:49] <barbaric> ok, so I was playing with new plymouth themes.  Somehow that broke suspend (lucid 64).  any ideas?
[07:49] <shreymech> clarkb, ohkkkkkkk :) thanx
[07:49] <Flannel> barbaric: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid questions, thanks
[07:49] <rocket16> So, anybody, what is the normal memory usage by Nautilus?
[07:49] <shreymech> theadmin, hmm okkkk...... soo SEAGATE is the best i cud get... ?
[07:49] <clarkb> shreymech: just dont expect the software they ship to work (for backups etc)
[07:49] <boblemur> theadmin: but never mind i through u ment ubuntu was the host
[07:50] <rocket16> Mine is 110 MB, and it is extreme, :(
[07:50] <barbaric> whoops, sorry.  Thanks Flannel
[07:50] <shreymech> clarkb, yes they were claiming some softwares for automatic backups and that all.... any use..??
[07:50] <rocket16> !linuc | barbaric
[07:50] <theadmin> shreymech: Get anything
[07:50] <erkan^> Where can I install: Adobe Air? Because I have Ubuntu 9.10 64-bits
[07:51] <rocket16> Friends, any idea?
[07:51] <theadmin> what the heck O_O Metacity just restarted all of a sudden
[07:51] <shreymech> clarkb, i shud use it just like a storage device to store my data's .. copy and paste.. keeping it safe... !!! ???
[07:51] <rocket16> Is 110 MB for Nautilus normal
[07:51] <clarkb> shreymech: yup
[07:51] <theadmin> shreymech: Yes, the software they provide is mainly for Windows computers
[07:51] <clarkb> ubuntu should automagically mount it for you someplace like /media
[07:52] <clarkb> it may also be worth nuking the default ntfs partition it ships with...
[07:53] <theadmin> clarkb: ...why? Better windows compatibility
[07:53] <clarkb> theadmin: who needs that?
[07:53] <clarkb> theadmin: you get better linux compatibilty when you get rid of ntfs
[07:53] <dekroning> where in the latest ubuntu can i adjust the grub boot options ?
[07:53] <theadmin> clarkb: Well, I do, have to use Windows in some places I take that device to
[07:53] <clarkb> using a fs that understands perms properly etc is a good thing
[07:53] <straterra> Linux is very compatible with NTFS
[07:53] <theadmin> dekroning: startupmanager, install that
[07:53] <clarkb> straterra: sure, but perms break
[07:54] <theadmin> clarkb: Well, i nuked the original partition anyway, reformatted it the way I like it :D
[07:54] <rocket16> Oh! This Nautilus Memory consumption is a bug here!
[07:54] <straterra> Only if you dont knwo what you're doing
[07:54] <clarkb> (granted with a mobile usb device thats not a huge deal)
[07:54] <straterra> know^
[07:54] <clarkb> straterra: you can get ntfs to preserve *nix permissions?
[07:55] <theadmin> umasks and that kinda stuff
[07:55] <Conf> hey can someone help me, i just installed kubuntu on my 1000HE netbook and although I can see my wireless network I can't connect to it
[07:55] <new_sensacion> hola algun español¿
[07:55] <Flannel> !es | new_sensacion
[07:55] <new_sensacion> ok
[07:55] <blkperl> Conf: can't connect it what way? whats the error message?
[07:56] <Conf> it tries to connect and then just stops?
[07:56] <Conf> i dont get an error message
[07:56] <Conf> i think it believes the password is wrong? even though i know its right
[07:56] <blkperl> probably a bad driver?
[07:57] <Conf> where can i find the latest driver?
[07:58] <theadmin> Grah! Update Manager is one big zombie
[07:58] <aperson> can someone recommend a lightweight twitter client?
[07:58] <theadmin> I mean after i close it's window it's process just HANGS there :/
[07:58] <Conf> update manager? wont that need the internet
[07:58] <blkperl> Conf: dell/hp/<insert manufacturer name> support page
[07:58] <aperson> small-screen friendly is a plus
[07:58] <clarkb> w3m
[07:59] <Conf> ok ill have a look ty
[07:59] <theadmin> Conf: Uh, that wasn't a reply to your question, that was a question of my own
[07:59] <unimatrix> anyone know why my pulseaudio Sound Preferences don't wanna remember the selected profile? (I have to set it from stereo to 5.1 after every reboot)
[07:59] <dekroning> theadmin: btw is that grub 2 in the new ubuntu?
[07:59] <theadmin> dekroning: Yeah, it only appeared in karmic
[07:59] <red2kic> !grub2 | dekroning
[08:00] <dekroning> theadmin: k
[08:00] <aroni125> aperson: I use Gwibber to read Twitter. I haven't had the chance to use it for anything but reading yet.
[08:00] <erkan^> !tweetdeck
[08:00] <erkan^> !twitter
[08:01] <clarkb> wow w3m actually works quite well
[08:01] <clarkb> image support even
[08:01] <aperson> erkan^, /msg ubottu search twitter yields no results
[08:02] <erkan^> ok aperson
[08:02] <aperson> also, boo@ adobe air
[08:02] <ranjan> hi all....i have a linux machine with apache server installed...but the server is not accessible from a windows machine....any solutions??
[08:02] <erkan^> I have installed adobe air now. but I can not download tweetdeck, aperson
[08:02] <dekroning> i dont see a /etc/X/Xorg.conf file, where can i find Xorgs config?
[08:02] <s73v3r> does the version of mplayer in 9.10 support AC3 audio?
[08:03] <clarkb> dekroning: it may not exist. Newer versions of xorg go without by default
[08:03] <dekroning> clarkb: ahh oke, but there does it save config then? for instance i have my monitor screen rotated, and it seems to have saved that information
[08:03] <aperson> erkan^, I've used a few air apps way back on ubuntu
[08:03] <ejv> anybody here have information about linux software raid and hard drives, specifically concerning TLER?
[08:03] <aperson> I can't remember if the web install button ever worked though, erkan^
[08:04] <ejv> i have a drive that has failed, and need to replace it, but im not sure which are safe to use...
[08:04] <clarkb> dekroning: hmm I dont know then
[08:05] <erkan^> aperson: http://www.bauer-power.net/2009/05/getting-adobe-air-to-work-in-ubuntu-904.html
[08:05] <rocket16> Friends theadmin and clarkb, I figured it out! I had Nautilis-clamscan installed, and I removed it. Now the memory consumption of Nautilus got to 60 MB from 110 MB, :)
[08:05] <theadmin> o_O
[08:05] <rocket16> theadmin and clarkb, Thanks for your help though, :D
[08:06] <clarkb> antivirus?
[08:06] <upera> avast
[08:06] <aperson> erkan^, I don't care to use air, but thanks :)
[08:07] <erkan^> ok
[08:07] <rocket16> clarkb: Yes, :) One day, one of the .exe files in my System was infected, and since Linux is secure, (and it was .exe), it could not do harm. But on giving the game.exe to a friend of mine, a windows user, he got infected. So, I kept Antivirus here,
[08:08] <upera> avast4linux works
[08:08] <erkan^> on 28th April is avaible for new version on Ubuntu: 10.10, aperson
[08:09] <Flannel> erkan^: No, on the 29th 10.04 is going to be released.  10.10 won't be released until October
[08:09] <erkan^> ow sorry yes
[08:10] <Saudrapsmann> Hi, I need help... I have my notification area in my top panel, but the notifications end up an inch below the panel like in this picture: http://i41.tinypic.com/ngcbon.png  Can anyone help me place it directly under the panel without that space?
[08:11] <rocket16> upera: Yes, it does. But, in case of Avast, you need to scan manually, (you need to start avast every time), but Clam-scan is portable and is accessible from right-click-menu
[08:11] <geekphreak> rocket16: dude hello
[08:11] <aroni125> Saudra: Did another notification pop up before that one?
[08:11] <aperson> erkan^, thanks, I know :)  I've been using ubuntu since warty
[08:12] <erkan^> warty?
[08:12] <aroni125> Warty Warthog, an earlier version of ubuntu.
[08:12] <Saudrapsmann> aroni125: Nope, it's been this way for a while
[08:13] <Saudrapsmann> It seems like that's just the default place for the notification area on my desktop
[08:13] <erkan^> wow
[08:13] <Saudrapsmann> notification popup*
[08:13] <erkan^> that was 4.10
[08:13] <erkan^> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
[08:13] <erkan^> interest :D
[08:13] <tarini> hi to all
[08:13] <brianherman> cool
[08:13] <brianherman> 4.10
[08:14] <blkperl> tarini: i think your looking for #helloworld :P
[08:14] <tarini> blkperl: i would like to be just polite ;)
[08:15] <smokex> network performance on 10.4 seems to be very slow...
[08:15] <smokex> atheros card
[08:16] <upera> tarini hi im polite
[08:17] <aroni125> smokex: It might be the driver. I've had performance problems with that card on Linux.
[08:18] <theadmin> ubottu: lucid | smokex
[08:18] <Saudrapsmann> I tried notification-properties and looked in gconf-editor, but they must have taken out notification-properties for Jaunty?
[08:18] <Saudrapsmann> err Karmic*
[08:18] <smokex> kk
[08:19] <Saudrapsmann> and apps -> notification-daemon only has one line "Theme - Standard"
[08:19] <chripher> boblemur: you there?
[08:21] <NetmanDH> Hi - i'm new to this - and i'm after a little ubuntu support - can anyone help?
[08:21] <theadmin> NetmanDH: Yep
[08:22] <quibbler> !ask | NemanDH
[08:24] <NetmanDH> I just took over an Ubuntu 8.10 server which has FatClients and how do i manage the users - iff i do AddUser they appear in passwd, but they can't log on...the server is in a bit of a mess!
[08:25] <geekphreak> NetmanDH: how are they trying to login ?
[08:26] <NetmanDH> via the client - this was all set up before i arrived.  Current users within the passwd file can log on, but no added ones!
[08:27] <geekphreak> NetmanDH: which client, putty?
[08:28] <dekroning> since i don't have a Xorg config, is there a way to dump the current Xorg config?
[08:29] <geekphreak> NetmanDH: which client, it could be using other mechanism
[08:29] <NetmanDH> No, ubuntu, they are fat clients running over the network.  Sorry if i'm not being too clear, i'm a windows network expert - not ubuntu.
[08:29] <geekphreak> no worries
[08:29] <blkperl> no bad flash, crashed my google chrome
[08:30] <geekphreak> NetmanDH: what kinda of server is it ?
[08:31] <NetmanDH> Ubuntu 8.10. there seems to be PAM authentication as well as LTSP and numerous other cr*p on there too.
[08:31] <NetmanDH> I don't want to do a nice reboot just yet, just in case it all goes pear-shaped!
[08:34] <murlidhar> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/52916/screenshot_1_fGP3wf.png ((( how to remove the universal access preference )))
[08:34] <murlidhar> i got that stupid icon ever since i changed the theme of the gdm :(
[08:35] <murlidhar> the icons comes in the Indicator Applet 0.3.6
[08:38] <TyanColte> anybody know why when i attempt to go into hibernate it says cannot find swap header?
[08:39] <Saudrapsmann> Okay I figured out that the space between the panel and most notifications are reserved for notifications like volume control, but how do I get them all in the same place? Gconf-editor proved useless
[08:39] <aroni125> Tyan: do you have a swap partition?
[08:40] <datune> Hello. After installing Ubuntu Server 10.04 Beta2, I tried running apt-get install vim-full, but get : E: Couldn't find package vim-full. All available repositories are uncommented. Do I have to add another repo?
[08:40] <Gryllida> TyanColte: maybe this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/313724/comments/6
[08:40] <TyanColte> yep, i just extended via the instructions on wubi's website
[08:40] <Peddy> Can I set a different wallpaper for each monitor with dual monitors?
[08:41] <rww> datune: Lucid/10.04 discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <datune> rww: Thanks.
[08:41] <rww> datune: I'm guessing you haven't done "sudo apt-get update", but if that doesn't work, ask the people over there :)
[08:41] <TyanColte> cuz before it said swapspace too small
[08:41] <datune> rww: of course I did that ;-)
[08:41] <rww> datune: you'd be surprised how many people don't :(
[08:41] <TyanColte> so i extended it and now it says swap header not found
[08:41] <datune> rww: I can imagine ;-)
[08:42] <TyanColte> Gryllida: and that bug gives no resolution
[08:43] <Xeross_> Can anyone put up a default ttyX.conf on a pastebin so I can restore mine and remove this autologin
[08:44] <Gryllida> TyanColte: sure thing, it is not fixed yet, I run out of ideas on whether it is possible to workaround your problem
[08:44] <aroni125> datune: vim-full doesn't exist in lucid's repository.
[08:44] <Gla> hey guys, I'd like to setup a proxy for port 800, so that wheneve connect to anything on port 800 it redirects me to a proxy server.  #1 what would I need to do on the client side, and #2 what would I need to do as the proxy server.
[08:45] <ezrafree> any ideas how to use vga font in eterm in ubuntu?
[08:45] <amos81> Xeross_: http://pastebin.org/158699
[08:45] <datune> aroni125: Hmm, bummer. Thanks for the info. I guess they will add it soon enough?!?
[08:45] <tony_mahoon> hey guys im trying to upgrade to desktop from server from 9.10
[08:45] <Xeross_> datune: Ah thanks
[08:45] <tony_mahoon> im getting weird errors when i do a sudo apt-get install gnome
[08:46] <rww> datune: vim-full is a transitional package for vim-gnome. Install vim-gnome instead
[08:46] <rww> tony_mahoon: you want ubuntu-desktop, not gnome.
[08:46] <Gryllida> tony_mahoon: pastebin them?
[08:46] <datune> rww: On Ubuntu SERVER, I need to isntqall vim-gnome?
[08:46] <tony_mahoon> rww: cheers mate, i knew there was a meta package, i just couldnt work out what it was called!
[08:46] <rww> datune: oh, vi-full, not vim-full, sorry. I'm an idiot :)
[08:46] <tony_mahoon> Gryllida: I think rww has solved my problem cheers anyway
[08:47] <Gryllida> tony_mahoon: ok
[08:47] <ezrafree> i'm trying to make it so the ANSI art in my epic theme will display properly
[08:47] <kumar-kle> can anybody help me with bundle script
[08:47] <Gryllida> kumar-kle, where are you running it aand what for
[08:47] <TyanColte> bump lol
[08:47] <NetmanDH> I have an Ubuntu 8.10 server where the people logon via Fat Clients (no HD).  They're all in the passwd file, but when i add another via adduser, they can't logon - any ideas.  There seems to be PAM authentication and LTSM as well as lots to other rubbish on there
[08:47] <rww> wait, no, you said vim-full
[08:47] <rafaelsoaresbr> Gla, do you mean a tranparent proxy?
[08:47] <azlon> how can i list my drives?
[08:48] <Gryllida> azlon: open Nautilus?
[08:48] <azlon> i tried df but it doesnt display all of my drives
[08:48] <Gryllida> hm
[08:48] <perhamlinux> ezrafree: try eterm -F vga
[08:48] <TyanColte> anybody know how to replace cube gears in compiz-fusion with another 3d image?
[08:48] <Gryllida> azlon, which ones does it noe show?
[08:48] <rww> datune: vim-full has been a transitional package for vim-gnome since hardy, and the versions before that had gnome-support built in. So yes, if you've been using vim-full, you should be using vim-gnome instead.
[08:48] <kumar-kle> what exactly bundle script is used for
[08:48] <azlon> Gryllida: im trying to grow my RAID and i just installed 2 more 1TB drives but I don't see them in the "df" list
[08:48] <datune> rww: Ok, thanks. I'll try that
[08:48] <Flannel> datune: on a CLI-only, you just want to install "vim"
[08:49] <Gryllida> azlon: tried reboot?
[08:49] <azlon> Gryllida: yep
[08:49] <rww> datune: there are also vim and vim-nox, which might be more suited to you.
[08:49] <datune> Flannel: Oh, thanks.
[08:49] <aroni125> azlon: mounted drives? mount
[08:49] <datune> rww: Indeed, that's what I was looking for.
[08:49] <dekroning> is there a way to install a older kernel version (ubuntu package one) in the latests ubuntu version? i need kernel version 2.6.24 (or older)
[08:49] <Gryllida> azlon: hm, what is df list and are there any other lists?
[08:50] <azlon> Gryllida: im stumbling through cat /proc/diskstats
[08:50] <Gryllida> azlon: aroni125 said to try to mount the disks
[08:51] <tripleb> is there an APE music player? how to compare APE and FLAC
[08:51] <azlon> Gryllida: hrmm... ok, how can i find them?
[08:51] <azlon> Gryllida: hold on... let me try a couple things
[08:52] <Gryllida> tripleb, 'how to compare APE and FLAC' -are these file formats or application names?
[08:52] <aroni125> mount by itself should list every mounted filesystem.
[08:52] <Gryllida> aroni125, how to do a mount?
[08:52] <manohar> how can i share my internet bandwidth to different programs?
[08:53] <perhamlinux> tripleb: you should compare them by size, both are lossless codecs, so no difference in quality
[08:53] <azlon> aroni125: ok, i see the drives... i think...
[08:53] <s73v3r> did something happen in 9.10 with regards to ac3 support and mplayer? I'm trying to convert an ac3 file into an m4a file
[08:53] <azlon> aroni125: sda and sdb
[08:53] <azlon> aroni125: looks like it just shifted all my other drives down 2 letters
[08:54] <perhamlinux> manohar: what do you mean exactly? your bandwidth is shared by default to all running processes
[08:54] <ezrafree> perhamlinux: i'm getting the error that: Eterm:  Error:  Unable to load font "vga".  Falling back on "fixed"
[08:54] <tripleb> is there an APE music player? how to compare APE and FLAC --- Thanks but I found it in Ubuntu forums AND Gryllida FLAC is a music file format. It is the lossless opensource file forrmat that I know of.  perhamlinux TY too. The link is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344331
[08:54] <perhamlinux> ezrafree: check out here: http://www.mail-archive.com/enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg03009.html
[08:55] <manohar> perhamlinux: when i download anything other sites dont open
[08:55] <manohar> perhamlinux: when i download anything other sites dont open
[08:56] <perhamlinux> manohar: how about caping your download speed? are you using a download manager or firefox's default?
[08:57] <manohar> perhamlinux: firefox default
[08:57] <Gryllida> manohar, try firefox safe mode, will your issue remain?
[08:57] <Gryllida> manohar, Safe Mode (in supported Mozilla applications) is a good way to see if an add-on, theme or something else is causing a problem. Please see: http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Safe+Mode
[08:58] <david_brent> hi, im drawing with my tablet and gimp kinda lags while drawing the lines, i'm wondering are there any other apps i dont know about that support tablets and are nice for drawing painting (maybe alog the lines of corel painter) ?
[08:58] <perhamlinux> manohar: sudo apt-get install d4x , and then install flashgot addon for firefox
[08:58] <ezrafree> nice thank you perhamlinux, got it :)
[08:58] <manohar> perhamlinux: i have d4x already installed
[08:58] <gheddy_zarc> does Wicd replace Network Manager in 9.04 I installed it now NM is gone
[08:58] <perhamlinux> manohar: then you can download with D4x and use different speed schemes
[08:59] <perhamlinux> ezrafree: you're welcome ;)
[08:59] <semanticpc> how do i use find on a folder name with a space ?
[08:59] <hateball> semanticpc: -print0
[08:59] <aroni125> azlon: those device files are automatically generated, so the drives shifting device files is possible. Unformatted drives do not show up in df or mount. Are they formatted?
[09:00] <azlon> aroni125: formatting them now
[09:00] <manohar> perhamlinux: i use the same method for most downloads but when i update my system with update manager then too it takes all bandwidth
[09:00] <semanticpc> hateball: find -print() /folder name -name 'pattern' ?????
[09:02] <manohar> perhamlinux: it is not that downloads from firefox is causing problem. it is happening when i install through apt-get install. this also takes all bandwidth
[09:04] <the-erm> I seem  to be having problems locating a .img file for 9.10 that isn't NBR
[09:04] <the-erm> anyone have a url?
[09:04] <the-erm> I have a friend who'd like to have a live usb
[09:05] <nich> gilang
[09:05] <nexsja> the-erm, you can download unetbootin, that app will help you make a live usb
[09:05] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, find folder\ name ...
[09:05] <the-erm> what if he's running windows :)
[09:05] <the-erm> I guess I'll have him run the live CD.
[09:05] <the-erm> Then create the usb from there.
[09:05] <nexsja> the-erm, unetbootin is for windows/linux/max
[09:06] <nexsja> mac*
[09:06] <manohar> the-erm: live CD dont harm windows
[09:06] <nexsja> !unetbootin
[09:06] <semanticpc> avelldiroll: when i use it in a shell script
[09:06] <semanticpc> it doesnt work
[09:09] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, the probleme might be somewhere else then (i just tested it to be sure)
[09:10] <avelldiroll> *problem
[09:11] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, try to paste a simple use case of what you are trying to do ( http://ubuntu.pastebin.com )
[09:11] <user__> Hello
[09:11] <user__> i ve just bought an TL-WN31G wireless usb stick for connecting to a WPA network.
[09:12] <user__> I have then tried to connect via network manager which did not work. i m now trying to connect directly through wpa_supplicant which always says: Association request to the driver failed
[09:12] <semanticpc> avelldiroll:  for i in $(find /home/pcr/Original\ Programs/AMROC  -name '*.C') ; do
[09:12] <user__> Have you any clue where to look for problems?
[09:13] <user__> I ve copied the wpa_supplicant configuration from a working computer.
[09:13] <manohar> Gryllida: safe mode in firefox is also not helping me out
[09:13] <perhamlinux> manohar: are you downloading using d4x?
[09:14] <manohar> perhamlinux: i download most of the stuff using D$x
[09:14] <AnActivist> hello I want have a project in mind but I'm not really sure where to start: basically I want to mimic a super basic version of linux with the Linux kernel 2.6.12.2, glibc-2.3.5 and gcc-3.3.6 and a shell to interact with, all I want to do is explore the kernel, is it possible for me to build this type of enviroment with VM-ware or is there any other way?
[09:15] <azlon> aroni125: finally got everything i needed. RAID is growing now. thanks!
[09:15] <hateball> !ot | AnActivist
[09:15] <perhamlinux> manohar: then you can use Options -> Speed to set speed limit on your downloads
[09:15] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, not a solution for your question ... but have you considered find ... -exec ...  ?
[09:16] <manohar> perhamlinux: but i have problem when i update packages using update manager or i also hav problem when installing softwares using apt-get install command
[09:16] <manohar> i download by limiting my speed in dx4
[09:16] <nich> hxlkhjahjsh
[09:16] <nich> gvkashjsh
[09:16] <nich> gfjsdjkgf
[09:17] <nich> bdvkl
[09:17] <nich> fvnkl
[09:17] <nich> dbf
[09:17] <nich> ,kkk
[09:17] <FloodBot1> nich: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <nich> llll
[09:17] <perhamlinux> manohar: I know what you're after, but I couldn't find it myslef when I needed it. let me search a bit more
[09:18] <manohar> perhamlinux: thanx for the help so far. okz.
[09:18] <chripher> hi igot problem with this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[09:19] <semanticpc> avelldiroll:  i just want to loop through the folder home/pcr/Original\ Programs/AMROC and find all .C files .....
[09:19] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, and what do you want to do with them (after the "do" instruction)?
[09:20] <semanticpc> avelldiroll:  i need to pass each file name as an input to one of my script ..... like "myscript.py $file"
[09:20] <perhamlinux> manohar: this page is good: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html , but still none of the programs there are able to manage bandwidth. try forum, I guess you can find more opinions there
[09:21] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, then : find path\ name -name "*.C" -exec myscript.py {} \;
[09:22] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, the end  ({} \;) is mandatory
[09:23] <semanticpc> avelldiroll: i did think of that ... but need to run a bunch of scripts .... i think ill use the same for all the scripts
[09:23] <felixM> does anyone of you know what "association request to the driver failed" means and what it causes
[09:23] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, then : find path\ name -name "*.C" -exec myscript.py {} ; otherscrip.py {} ; yetanother.py {} \;
[09:24] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, if i unterstand correctly what you mean ...
[09:24] <chripher> hi igot problem with this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[09:25] <avelldiroll> felixM, try giving a little more context
[09:25] <manohar> perhamlinux: thanx for d link. checkin it out.
[09:25] <semanticpc> avelldiroll: got it thanks ..... just one last thing i would like to redirect the output to a file for each iteration ..... is it possible
[09:26] <avelldiroll> chripher, it would be easier to give an answer if you point out exactly what your problem is with this guide
[09:26] <the-erm> nexsja thanks for telling me about unetbootin
[09:26] <the-erm> it works.
[09:26] <chripher> avelldiroll: Access via WebDAV protocol (http://)
[09:27] <chripher> avelldiroll: it does not accept my password
[09:27] <chripher> avelldiroll: I see the password encrypted in the passwd file
[09:28] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, try adding a >> {}.log after each script ... but it might not work ...
[09:28] <felixM> avelldiroll: trying to establish a connection to a WPA network, using a TP-LINK WN321G. When trying to associate via wpa_supplicant, i get this message. Before i tried network manager in gnome which didnt work either
[09:30] <avelldiroll> felipe_, is your TP-LINK recognize? could you give it's usbID (using lsusb in a terminal) it easier to get some info its to series of number : xxxx:xxxx
[09:30] <avelldiroll> sorry felipe_ tab fail ... i meant felixM
[09:30] <semanticpc> avelldiroll:  i did ... it just creates one single file for all the outputs
[09:30] <felixM> avelldiroll: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 148f:2573 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2501USB Wireless Adapter
[09:31] <felixM> avelldiroll: configuration of wpa_supplicant should work. copied it from another working machine.
[09:32] <avelldiroll> felixM, with the same wifi usb?
[09:32] <felixM> avelldiroll: no
[09:32] <manohar> ferhamlinux: all the tools are for monitoring but i want to share bandwidth
[09:33] <perhamlinux> felixM: maybe this interests you : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/37821
[09:34] <perhamlinux> manohar: try posting in ubuntuforums.org and see if anyone can come up with a suggestion. I'm out of ideas!
[09:34] <manohar> perhamlinux: thanx.
[09:35] <perhamlinux> manohar: you're welcome
[09:37] <kriss> helo
[09:37] <kriss> hi
[09:37] <perhamlinux> kriss: hi
[09:38] <slckb0y> hi everyone :) is someone running KDE in a virtualbox under win7 ? :) i can't seem to use OpenGL for desktop effect even if i installed guest additions :/
[09:38] <chripher> avelldiroll: did you get my  problem
[09:39] <datune> rww: Thanks again!
[09:39] <avelldiroll> chripher, I don't see where the problem is in the instructions ... sorry
[09:40] <Oer> slckb0y, Vbox does not support 3d
[09:40] <Oer> only software rendering
[09:40] <chripher> avelldiroll: when I try to checkout it does not accept my pass
[09:40] <slckb0y> it does since sometimes already, it work with compiz and quake, just not with KDE destop effect in fact
[09:40] <felixM> perhamlinux: thanks, but i dont think thats my kind of problem because i cant get a connection at all.
[09:41] <Oer> oh here it does not :(
[09:41] <perhamlinux> felixM: have you tried wicd?
[09:41] <avelldiroll> chripher, did you try using htpasswd2 instead of  htpasswd  to create them ? (not sure if that would change anything though)
[09:41] <felixM> perhamlinux: not yet, trying now
[09:42] <pjfry1> I tried using xvidcap and it works but the colors are messed up, is there a way to fix this
[09:42] <chripher> avelldiroll: what is htpasswd2?
[09:43] <avelldiroll> chripher, htpasswd2 is htpasswd for apache2 ... i beleive
[09:43] <chripher> ah
[09:45] <chripher> so should I write htpasswd2 when I crearte ? eg sudo htpasswd2 -c /etc/subversion/passwd user_name
[09:45] <avelldiroll> chripher, that's what i would suggest, yes
[09:46] <chripher> avelldiroll: why does not the guide say so then
[09:46] <avelldiroll> chripher, because it's a work in progress :)
[09:47] <chripher> avelldiroll: sudo: htpasswd2: command not found
[09:49] <geekphreak> chripher:  for setting htaccess and htpasswd?
[09:49] <chripher> ???
[09:50] <geekphreak> chripher:  in regards to your above htpasswd2 : command not found emssage
[09:50] <avelldiroll> chripher, my mistake ... htpasswd2 became htpasswd when apache2 became default
[09:50] <chripher> ah
[09:51] <chripher> avelldiroll: so we still have same problem
[09:51] <avelldiroll> chripher, so your problem is probably somewhere else
[09:52] <chripher> avelldiroll: when i cat the passwd I see encryptd passes but I can not checkout through http
[09:54] <nikxxbari> ciao
[09:54] <avelldiroll> chripher, what is the error message when you do a : svn co http://url project --username user_name     ?
[09:54] <chripher> none it just ask again
[09:55] <johndooe> where to register a login and password to automatically log on freenode, I use IRSSI
[09:56] <chripher> avelldiroll: like if i misspelled the pass
[09:56] <geekphreak> !register | johndooe
[09:56] <avelldiroll> chripher, from the wiki guide : "If you encounter acces denied, please remember to logout and login again for your memebership of the subversion user-group to take effect. "   did you do that ?
[09:57] <chripher> avelldiroll: done that a lot of time
[09:59] <pjfry1> I used xvidcap and it seems to work, but the colors are not at all right -- is there a way to fix this?
[09:59] <tiger3723> alllo
[10:01] <chripher> avelldiroll: afk for 10
[10:01] <waaaradadfad> hollla
[10:01] <waaaradadfad> hay alguien
[10:02] <waaaradadfad> holla
[10:02] <waaaradadfad> hi
[10:02] <waaaradadfad> is anyone there???
[10:03] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi Guys.....quick question.....I have apache2 installed as I am running a webserver. WHen I look in system processes how many 'Apache2' instances should be running?
[10:03] <G_A_C> depends on the webserver load IIRC
[10:03] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: look in the apache config, it's normally about 5 for a non-busy server
[10:04] <G_A_C> by default I think it's something like one for every connection and 5 spare
[10:04] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: the config file tells you how many to start at boot time
[10:04] <chripher> avelldiroll: back
[10:04] <Jimi_Neutral> I see because I have many running and many sleeping and this thing aint even live yet apart from on our internal network
[10:04] <chripher> avelldiroll: yes I have logged out and in
[10:04] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: that's fine
[10:04] <nexsja> hello, i've got a small issue with c/c++ compiler here. I've installed build-essential and libc6-dev, and whenever i try to compile by code it says that iostream/stdio is missing, though locate says that it's in this /usr/include/c++/4.4/iostream dir
[10:05] <ikonia> nexsja: look at the path's in your code to the includes
[10:05] <avelldiroll> chripher, i reread the wiki and did not find any problem ... i did not have time to test it though ...
[10:05] <Jimi_Neutral> ikonia, also my CPU is running at 99% near on. I noticed it when i tried to check the website this morning nothing loaded, well ti did but took ages, checked the sys monitor and the cpu is at 99%
[10:05] <nexsja> ikonia, i have to supply the paths? i though i can just use #include <iostream> and it will work.
[10:05] <chripher> avelldiroll: oaky
[10:05] <geekphreak> ikonia: howdy :)
[10:05] <chripher> avelldiroll: do you know the writer
[10:05] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: see what is using up the cpu
[10:05] <nexsja> ikonia, i need to do #include </usr/include/c++/4.4/iostream> ?
[10:05] <ikonia> nexsja: depends on how your development environment is setup
[10:05] <Jimi_Neutral> ikonia, how can i see what is specifically using it
[10:06] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: a tool such as "top" can be useful
[10:06] <nexsja> ikonia, i guess it's not set up at all :/ could you guide me a bit here?
[10:06] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: what version of ubuntu are you running
[10:06] <Jimi_Neutral> ikonia, damn now its dropped right down...thats just weird. Ok I will look for that tool...and im running karmic
[10:06] <geekphreak> nevermind
[10:06] <avelldiroll> chripher, no ... i will test it on a vm when i'll go back home tonight
[10:06] <manohar> i am having problem installing skype in my Ubuntu 8.04
[10:06] <manohar> it shows error..
[10:07] <ikonia> nexsja:  you can set your environment up as you wish, it's not something that's set in stone
[10:07] <chripher> avelldiroll: thanks but I need it to work now
[10:07] <avelldiroll> chripher, in the mean time i can only advise to check for typos .... sorry
[10:08] <chripher> avelldiroll: done I followed this guide 3 times over still same error
[10:09] <manohar> please help installing skype
[10:09] <manohar> it is showing following error http://pastie.org/926779
[10:10] <ikonia> !skype | manohar
[10:11] <WXZ> how do I find the free remaining space on my partition
[10:11] <WXZ> it says I have 5.8 gigs left
[10:11] <WXZ> but when I right-click + properties it says I have over 10.1 gigs of files (the partition is only 10 gigs)
[10:12] <geekphreak> ikonia:  you seen any grub issues with grubs being washed of automaticly?
[10:12] <ikonia> washed ?
[10:13] <geekphreak> ikonia: yep keep going back to windows loader , dual boot system
[10:13] <geekphreak> ubuntu boolotloader will be taken of on ubuntu 9.10 grub2
[10:15] <nexsja> ikonia, mm... you mean IDE? My IDE here is nano :>
[10:15] <geekphreak> guess not
[10:16] <jfoozie420> hello, can anyone tell refer a download manager that can atleast go par for par with IDM?
[10:16] <jfoozie420> "refer
[10:17] <bronto2> jfoozie420, whats IDM?
[10:17] <jfoozie420> my bad for my english, for some reason im nicaraguan for the day and can't do grammar for sh*z
[10:17] <jfoozie420> internet download manager
[10:17] <geekphreak> bronto2: its a windows download manager internet download manager
[10:18] <bronto2> jfoozie420, what i do is a series of wget commands ...
[10:18] <mogi> #ubuntu-ko
[10:18] <ikonia> nexsja: no I don't mean ide
[10:19] <ikonia> geekphreak: never seen it just dissapear, I've seen windows overwrite it. try re-applying it, or making sure you're booting off the drive with grub on
[10:19] <jfoozie420> yeah, for some reason wget is turtling up my band wagon, how do i put it up to speed??
[10:19] <bullgard4> How can I debug Empathy? man empathy: "ENVIRONMENT: EMPATHY_LOGFILE=filename. If set, debug output will go to the given file rather than to stderr." How can I set 'EMPATHY_LOGFILE=<filename>'?
[10:19] <geekphreak> ikonia: i did basic troubleshooting, person was not reinstalling windows , but he had to  retore it like a lot of times
[10:19] <ikonia> geekphreak: then that would be the problem
[10:20] <geekphreak> as soon as he would reboot, mostly grub would be taken off was wierd
[10:20] <jfoozie420> bronto2: i can go over 2 mb/s when i use IDM with windows, hell the only problem is my chances of getting a virus. I'd rather download with an OS that i trust, but im an imaptient guy when it comes to speed
[10:20] <ikonia> geekphreak: nah, that's expected
[10:20] <bronto2> jfoozie420, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=526232
[10:20] <geekphreak> oh ok
[10:21] <bronto2> jfoozie420, i could easily saturate my connection with wget, so i dont know what could be a problem, btw
[10:23] <jfoozie420> bronto2: hey how do i accellerate my server list from software sources??? it's been dam slow, i had to switch to NZ's servers to get it to atleast 200 kb/s when i usually download at 2 mb/s
[10:23] <geekphreak> woohoo fixed my coredump error :)
[10:23] <manohar> http://pastie.org/926779 how to solve this problem in skype?
[10:25] <ikonia> manohar: it means it can't install the dependencies it wants to use, which probably means you're trying to use a version thats not compatible with your OS
[10:25] <ikonia> manohar: what instructions are you following to install skype ?
[10:25] <Oer> jfoozie420, it all depends on the availability of free servers
[10:26] <jfoozie420> 4sure then, ima have to play around and figure this thing out
[10:26] <manohar> ikonia: sudo apt-get install skype
[10:27] <jfoozie420> dam, tomorrow ubuntu turns into uBLUNTu....so light one up linux brotha's!!!!!!!
[10:27] <ikonia> manohar:  - no what instructions are you using to install skype
[10:27] <manohar> ikonia: how to fix that dependency ?
[10:27] <ikonia> manohar: no - what instructions are you using to install skype
[10:27] <manohar> ikonia: i dint get ur question?
[10:27] <ikonia> manohar: what instructions are you following to install skype
[10:29] <manohar> ikonia: i added the skype repository in sources.list and updated it then gave the above command.
[10:30] <ikonia> manohar: who told you to do that / what instructions are you following
[10:30] <manohar> ikonia: i am getting problem installing using synaptic too
[10:30] <ikonia> manohar: who told you to do that / what instructions are you following
[10:30] <manohar> ikonia: tell me how to install skype then?
[10:30] <pro> anyone else notice that they screwed up the squid?
[10:30] <ikonia> manohar: who told you to do that / what instructions are you following
[10:30] <manohar> i will follow ur instructions
[10:31] <ikonia> manohar: just tell me what instructions / guide you're following
[10:31] <pro> the permissions are wrong on the errors files
[10:31] <manohar> i searched in the internet
[10:31] <ikonia> manohar: yes, and which guide are you using from the internet
[10:31] <manohar> i had installed it before too
[10:32] <manohar> it was working
[10:32] <timeless_mbp> i loaded https://launchpad.net/nspluginwrapper and clicked the link for 'homepage' and got an error message
[10:32] <timeless_mbp> is that expected?
[10:32] <ikonia> manohar: ok - I'm going to stop responding now as you don't seem to be able to answer my questions
[10:32] <manohar> but after reinstalling ubuntu. now i am getting the problem
[10:33] <nilsma> can anyone offer help with fstab? i can access my external usb hd from one user, but i cant from another user (it is vfat formatted).
[10:33] <manohar> ikonia: actually i dont remember which link in internet i used.
[10:33] <ikonia> nilsma: vfat holds no permissions so when it's mounted it's mounted as that user's permissions
[10:34] <jfoozie420> manohar: lets start from the beginning did you download skype from its main site
[10:34] <jfoozie420> ?
[10:34] <manohar> nope
[10:35] <nilsma> ikonia: yes, i found that when trying to give permissions, unfortunately reformatting is not an option - how should i go about being able to read/write/exe my usb hd from the "other user"?
[10:35] <manohar> i am using ubuntu 8.04
[10:35] <jfoozie420> do that first
[10:35] <temba> Hello, i have a problem on a server running ubuntu 6.06 lts. clamav shows errors on starting up in the console= LibClamAV Error: Can't load /tmp/clamav-b2931dda4e9ba47a/daily.ndb: Malformed database. How can i update on consol eto a "newer" Version? gotta ask here cause i come from gentoo linux. can i do a "apt-get inbstall clamav  <versionnumber?>
[10:35] <manohar> and i the main site it has versions for 8.10+
[10:36] <manohar> so should i download it?
[10:36] <jfoozie420> manohar: yes
[10:36] <miZ--> anyone have a tutorial on installing ssl certificates - i generated mine then they sent one back -- now im lost
[10:36] <manohar> ok let me do that
[10:37] <nilsma> ikonia: is it simply a matter of umount from user1 and then mount again from user2?
[10:37] <hateball> miZ--: For what application? Apache?
[10:37] <jfoozie420> manohar: it says it's for the LTS but let see if its complatible
[10:38] <jfoozie420> manohar: if it doesn't work we'll do it in another approach
[10:38] <manohar> can we use another approach first. coz i tried that and it dint work
[10:39] <jfoozie420> manohar: lets try this, add this to the terminal sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[10:39] <jfoozie420> <sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list>
[10:40] <nilsma> can anyone offer help with fstab? i can access my external usb hd from one user, but i cant from another user (it is vfat formatted).
[10:40] <jfoozie420> then <wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update>
[10:40] <miZ--> apach2
[10:40] <miZ--> hateball: apache2
[10:41] <pro> fixed it, i know what they fucked up... and its going to fuck up a lot of things too... stupid typo they made in a script....
[10:41] <pro> anyway, good luck with that
[10:41] <manohar> jfoozie420: please wait... i am doing..
[10:42] <ikonia> nilsma: the user would have to umount it (or root) then the other user mount it
[10:42] <dirk_> gday, what would be better to set up a new computer with today, 9.10 or the new beta2?
[10:42] <hateball> miZ--: usually the CA has instructions on their site for it, like #4 on here http://www.digicert.com/ssl-certificate-installation-apache.htm
[10:42] <jfoozie420> manohar: no no, don't jack off now, i got a class in the morning
[10:42] <ikonia> nilsma: vfat isn't meant to be shared like that, however you could put group read/write permissions on it at mount time
[10:42] <ikonia> dirk_: 9.10
[10:43] <nilsma> ikonia: how would i do that? i was under the impression that i should do that in /etc/fstab
[10:43] <miZ--> thanks
[10:43] <jfoozie420> manohar: lol its a joke, try this <http://divyad.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/install-skype-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-configure-sound/>
[10:43] <nilsma> ikonia: "do that": put group read/write permissions on it at mount time
[10:43] <ikonia> nilsma: that's a good call
[10:43] <ikonia> nilsma: fstab will do it fine
[10:43] <manohar> jfoozie240: i think the link says fiesty but i hav hardy
[10:44] <dirk_> kay,  thx. so the upgrade in about a week is not a struggle at all ikonia?
[10:44] <jfoozie420> ok then check this linkhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778691
[10:44] <jfoozie420> my bad http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778691
[10:44] <jfoozie420> manohar: this link is hardy http://divyad.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/install-skype-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-configure-sound/
[10:45] <nilsma> ikonia: i tried adding this line: "/dev/sdc1	/media/My Book	vfat	rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,users	0	2" however i get an error message when using $ mount -a that says "[mntent]: line 16 in /etc/fstab is bad"
[10:45] <geekphreak> ikonia: thanks again for your help
[10:45] <ikonia> geekphreak: with what ?
[10:45] <geekphreak> with that grub issue lol
[10:46] <ikonia> nilsma: do a quick google for ubuntu vfat permissions and you'll see some example fstab options
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[10:46] <jfoozie420> it should kill your problem, if it doesn't help then i have failed, and i will be 4ever called a loser.
[10:46] <nilsma> ikonia: oki, thanks, i will try googling some more then :)
[10:46] <jfoozie420> ActionParsnip: yodiggity
[10:47] <manohar> jfoozie420: following the link and downloading
[10:47] <jfoozie420> manohar: goodluck with it homie
[10:48] <geekphreak> jfoozie420: you tried to help, thats what matter, thank you :)
[10:48] <manohar> jfoozie420: thanx let me try... if it works
[10:48] <geekphreak> manohar: good luck
[10:49] <jfoozie420> geekphreak: thanks for the support, now i don't feel like a loser.
[10:49] <jfoozie420> lol, im just messin
[10:49] <manohar> geekphreak: thanx too
[10:49] <geekphreak> jfoozie420: its all good bud
[10:49] <Peddy> Can I set a different wallpaper for each monitor with dual monitors?
[10:50] <jfoozie420> geekphreak: lol thanks for forgiving me!
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> peddy. Just stitch 2 images together to span the size of the whole desktop
[10:51] <Peddy> ActionParsnip, is there an automated or easier way to do this?
[10:51] <Peddy> (it's what I'm currently doing)
[10:52] <rocket16> Hello, when I try compiling Wesnoth 1.8, it shows a message that SDL11 can't be detected. And it also asks me to install SDL11 from www.libsdl.org, and I installed the .rpm package, since no source or .deb was provided. What to do?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Peddy: not sure, I don't use dual monitors. You could if you had 2 seperate x servers but the large image in my view is far easier
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: ubuntu doesn't use rpm
[10:52] <rocket16> Also, it shows the message "checking for sdl11-config... no
[10:52] <rocket16> configure: error: *** SDL not found! Get SDL from www.libsdl.org."
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: its not working because you used the rpm. Find a deb file or a ppa to install the dep
[10:53] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: I know, it uses .deb, but read my words, they say that nothing like .deb or source was there.
[10:53] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: That is known to me, so Iam thinking of using alien to build the deb
[10:54] <geekphreak> rocket16: sudo apt-get install libsdl-dev!
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: just because its not on the site doesn't mean it doesn't exist
[10:54] <rocket16> geekphreak: Lol, did that already, but it did not work,
[10:54] <geekphreak> oh ok
[10:54] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: I have seen the entire Internet, and even the SDL developers told me, that they don't exist.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: alien is really not advised. Find a ppa or deb online. You may even find a ppa for wesnoth, or one may be on getdeb
[10:55] <Termana> HA!
[10:55] <Termana> Hes "seen the entire internet"
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: then you will need to compile libsdl
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !find libsdl
[10:55] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: lol, what are you saying? There is no .deb yet for Wesnoth 1.8,
[10:56] <Peddy2> ActionParsnip, disconnected (thanks New Zealand internet), did you reply?
[10:56] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Also, I know I need to compile it, but the source is not available for sdl11-config,
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: there are some sdl packages on the repo which may give you what you need
[10:56] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: I installed them all, no result
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Peddy: if you had 2 x servers you could set seperate wallpapers but a combined image is far easier in my eyes
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: have you checked getdeb for a wesnoth deb?
[10:58] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Yes, the older ones are available.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: you could contact them and ask how they made it
[10:59] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Sorry, but making the previous version are different. The previous versions of Wesnoth did not need all SDL libraries,
[10:59] <colorlessprism> what is a good highly compressed backup option?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: I see
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !backup | colorlessprism
[11:00] <colorlessprism> ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:01] <colorlessprism> !cloning
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25228&start=15
[11:02] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Lol, thanks, but that is for Wesnoth 1.6.1, at least 2 years older,
[11:02] <jfoozie420> ey someone help me turn off IPv6 for ubuntu
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: I'm just going by what you said. That 1.6
[11:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> What do I put on the end of a command to have it completely backgrounded? was it 2>&1?
[11:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> ActionParsnip: hey!
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Jfoozie42: you can disable it in /etc/default/grub if you use grub2
[11:03] <hateball> SpaceGhostC2C: "command &" will run it in background
[11:03] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: But I said 1.8, anyway. Thanks for the help. I am searching for a source, and let me compile it.
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Spaceghostc2c: howdy
[11:03] <kyxzme> hey
[11:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> ActionParsnip: been a while. Can I pm you a question?
[11:03] <kyxzme> do you know there is no way to use Workspaces in 10.04?
[11:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> kyxzme: #ubuntu+1
[11:04] <Yum> Bom Dia! / Good Morning!
[11:04] <Peddy2> ActionParsnip, if I did 2 seperate X servers, would the monitors be able to interact with each other?..
[11:04] <jfoozie420> anyone know how to turn off IPv6??
[11:04] <kyxzme> thanks
[11:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> jfoozie420: ActionParsnip told you how.
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Peddy: not sure, I guess so
[11:04] <Peddy2> Thanks ActionParsnip, I'll give it a go...
[11:04] <jfoozie420> my bad, didn't see that
[11:05] <jfoozie420> thankU!
[11:05] <Lazy^> Hi, i've got problem with apt-get / aptitude / synaptic. It gives error E: unable to use munmap. I've tried apt-get clean ect, but the problem continues.
[11:06] <Vishal> any body knows openfiler nas box
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Lazy^: is you hdd an ssd?
[11:10] <Lazy^> ActionParsnip: noup
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Ok
[11:11] <Lazy^> any clue, i haven't seen this error ever... and it seems that it's not a bug or anything
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Lazy^: there's a bug in debian for it. You could try booting to livecd to run an fsck. Let me get the bug
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Lazy^: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/apt/+bug/24626
[11:12] <brianherman> Vishal: You should goto #openfiler  for help with openfiler
[11:12] <paul3333> hi, can anyone tell me how to stop a ntfs partition? I didn't shut down windows properly before installing ubuntu and now I can't mount it...and I can't remember the command myself
but no body is replying from openfiler
[11:13] <brianherman> Vishal: Well you are going to have to wait and try again
[11:13] <mcl0vin_> howdy folks
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Paul3333: can you clarify "stop"
[11:13] <brianherman> Vishal: This channel is for ubuntu questions
[11:14] <mcl0vin_> is there is a way i can change how remix menu style
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Paul3333: I didn't know you could stop a partition
[11:14] <Oer> Lazy^,  does this command solve your problem ? terminal> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:14] <paul3333> ActionParsnip: not sure it's called stop, but there was a command so you wouldn't have to use force
[11:15] <Lazy^> Oer: what that cmd excatly do ?
[11:15] <erUSUL> paul3333: ntfsfix ? form ntfsprogs ?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Paul3333: what are you trying to achieve?
[11:15] <Oer> it can resolve broken packages and errors
 tried, it didn't work
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> lazy: sudo apt-get -f install ,is worth a bash too
[11:15] <erUSUL> paul3333: then you will have to use a windows tool
[11:16] <Lazy^> ActionParsnip: that cmd gives same error
[11:16] <primate> I have a basic question...
 don't want to force it on, since I read that can cause problems
[11:16] <Lazy^> ActionParsnip: and that error comes when i open synaptic or aptitude, it doenst let me do update or nothing
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> paul3333: oh so you want to mount the partition
[11:16] <mcl0vin_> can someone help me please
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Lazy^: what changed on the system to start this?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Paul3333: am I right?
 yup, but it keeps telling me it's in use
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Paul3333: how does stop equate to mount?
 and there was a specific command to stop it and mount it without force
[11:17] <mcl0vin_> is there is a way i can change home screen style in notebook remix?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> paul3333: i'd use a windows cd to drop to recovery mode and chkdsk the partition
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Mclvin: appearence in prerefences
 it can be done with just one command...I wrote it down the first time, and put it on the ntfs partition I'm trying to moun [idiot]
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Mcl00vin: ^
[11:20] <mcl0vin> ActionParsnip: i am talking about the menu on the left side
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Mcl0vin: gotcha. I often wondered that
[11:20] <mcl0vin> ActionParsnip: fav,file & folders
[11:20] <Lazy^> ActionParsnip: this is the excat error: E: Unable to seek to 18446744071846088703
[11:20] <Lazy^> W: Unable to munmap
[11:20] <Lazy^> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Lazy^: i'd definately fsck
[11:21] <brianherman> Vishal: I dont know openfiler but i maybe able to help anyway what is your problem?
[11:21] <paul3333> anyone have a clue?
[11:21] <rocket16> Has anyone tried the RTS game O A.D yet? It promises to be a great game for Ubuntu, and if it works, we'll have thousands of people converting to Ubuntu!
[11:21] <primate> I have a little acer aspire one netbook. I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on the same drive I use Xp. Now however, when I reach the selection on bootup, there is a question mark where Ubuntu should be, and it doesn't load.
[11:22] <rocket16> It is available via GetDeb, and here is the feature:http://os.wildfiregames.com/ and http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/all
[11:22] <primate> I like Ubuntu, and would like to repair functionality, any suggestions? can I just reinstall
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Paul3333: http://mpathirage.com/how-to-fix-ntfs-mount-error-on-ubuntu/
[11:22] <rocket16> I want to install it, but Getdeb does not work in this case, :(
[11:23] <jfoozie420> damm im hella dumb, but how do i turn off IPv6 from grub??
[11:23] <Ken8521> primate, did you install w/ wubi?... never had that happen on my aa1
[11:23] <primate> ActionParsnip, I assume this link applies to me as well
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Primate: boot to the live usb environment and reinstall grub. You don't have to reinstall just because the bootloader is bad. Just fix the bootloader
[11:23] <primate> oh ok
[11:23] <jfoozie420> cause i tried about:config on firefox but it doesn't seem to help when i toggle ipv6 to false
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: what if they don't like RTS?
[11:24] <mcl0vin> so anyone here could advice me how i can change the main menu on the home screen of notebook remix
[11:24] <primate> I have a sata DVD drive that I connect via USB to my acer netbook
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Primate: no, you need to boot to you usb stick and reinstall grub
 thanks dude, I'll look it up
[11:24] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Lol, still a formidable game can be made, against Age of Empires series, :D
[11:24] <nexiu> Hello, I need help. Ubuntu wont connect with my mobile internet
[11:24] <Lazy^> ActionParsnip: hmm
[11:24] <alan_> clear
[11:24] <nexiu> I have une 10.04 on acer aspire one
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: check out the penumbra demo. Its badass
[11:24] <mcl0vin> nexiu: i am using my mobile right now
[11:24] <primate> ok so copy Ubuntu OS image to USB flash?
[11:24] <marekw2143> hi, I pressed some keys on keyboard and now the screen is zoomed, nhow to restore original size :)?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Primate: whatever you used to install the OS, use that
[11:25] <primate> ok
[11:25] <primate> thanks much =D
[11:25] <mcl0vin> nexiu: which phone and which company
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Primate: or make a bootable usb if you need one
[11:25] <primate> I have a 4 GB
[11:25] <primate> should be enough
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Primate: that's loads plenty
[11:25] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Penumbra if commercial, but O A.D is not, :D
[11:26] <nexiu> mcl0vin, built-in modem
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: the demo is free but the game is worth it
[11:26] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: A demo is not Open-Source, and also, the what I like is a RTS, like the fans of Age of Mythology and AoK,
[11:26] <brianherman> jfoozie420: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”ipv6.disable=1 quiet splash”
[11:27] <brianherman> jfoozie420: grub-update
[11:27] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Also, from the screenthots of O A.D, it appears as if it is a jewel to Ubuntu.
[11:27] <mcl0vin> nexiu: hmmm not sure about that one, but i am using my samsung code thru usb and it is working just fine...good luck to you
[11:27] <brianherman> jfoozie420:http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-how-to-disable-the-ipv6-protocol.html
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: true.  But flash isn't open source, neither are the propritary ati or nvidia drivers
[11:27] <mcl0vin> anyone here using notebook remix
[11:27] <mcl0vin> ??
[11:27] <nexiu> mcl0vin, thanks :)
[11:27] <InvaderZim> has anyone here worked out the gmail html5 drag and drop functionality with firefox in linux?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: I bet you have at least one of those
[11:28] <mcl0vin> nexiu: what lspci give you
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Invaderzim: I use gmail, just not firefox
[11:28] <Lazy^> Oer: dpkg --configure -a doens't do anything
[11:28] <nexiu> mcl0vin, http://wklej.org/id/318831/
[11:28] <brianherman> InvaderZim: does it work with chrome?
[11:28] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: The debate continues, if you consider Java too, and I do have them. But, the thing is that, Commercial < Free < Open-Source, so Flash is better than Commercial softwares like Penumbra
[11:28] <InvaderZim> brianherman: yes
[11:28] <brianherman> neat
[11:29] <manohar> thanx all i got my skype running
[11:29] <mcl0vin> manohar: is there is skype for ubuntu?!!!!!!
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: I thought the price was reasonab le and equated it to buying a pc game. Maybe I'm too old school
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Mclvin: yep, even 64bit
[11:29] <mcl0vin> manohar: maybe its time for you to walk me thru how to set it up
[11:29] <manohar> mcl0vin: yes
[11:29] <ibboT> hi, I'm trying to get transmission-daemon working on a headless server. I've installed transmission-cli and transmission-daemon. The daemon is running, but when I try to use transmission-remote --list I get (localhost:9091) "Couldn't connect to server"
[11:29] <Oer> Lazy^, then i don't know howto resolve the error E
[11:30] <manohar> which ubuntu version we boot
[11:30] <Ken8521> mcl0vin, its fairly easy, there's a skype repository.. add it, and install it.
[11:30] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: What we want to advocate Ubuntu for, is freedom and Open-Source. So, commercial games are not welcome here. The best way is to use free and open-source softwares.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: nonfree proprietary isn't all bad. I am actively supporting developers who make native games for both linux and windows which can only be a good thing
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: if all games makers m.ade native linux versions wouldn't that be a great time?
[11:31] <manohar> mcl0vin: which ubuntu version u use?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: no more need for wine or installing windows so you can play the latest games
[11:31] <manohar> if u hav latest its very simple
[11:31] <etzerd> hello all
[11:31] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Isn't our discussion going a bit offtopic? Also, Non-free softwares are meant for profit, which clashes with the nature of Ubuntu.
[11:31] <mcl0vin> manohar: remix
[11:32] <Ken8521> !skype > mcl0vin
[11:32] <mcl0vin> nexiu: are you on Dell xps
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: it doesn't, ubuntu does make profit. I think you should look at the paid for support. Canonical is a business and strives for profit
[11:32] <nexiu> mcl0vin, no, acer aspire one
[11:32] <etzerd> have anyone here tried the 10.04 version yet?
[11:32] <nexiu> few day ago its works
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: I think you should research a little
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !10.04 | etzerd
[11:33] <manohar> mcl0vin: go to http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/choose/ and download ubuntu verion
[11:33] <etzerd> ubottu: thanks
[11:33] <zvacet> etzerd:  #ubuntu+1
[11:34] <Ken8521> manohar, there's a skype repository available, so you don't have to keep track of updates, it will update automatically
[11:34] <ahox> Hi, is there a good looking *non-mono* linux font where each character has the same width regardless of style?
[11:34] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: A mutual profit is always welcome, when it benefits the ideology of the user and the developer. And I have researched nicely enough, but you seem to challenge the nature of Linux, and also, drag the discussion offtopic. In addition, Things like non-free softwares cause a flow of money from the pockets of the users to the developers. But Open-Source is what allows users to be developers.
[11:34] <alabd> Good day all , vista and 9.04 are connected via wifi and internet shares from vista into ubuntu , how to copy a file from ubuntu to vista (simple way) ?)
[11:35] <jrib> ahox: erm, isn't that what monospace means?
[11:35] <erUSUL> ahox: so you want a monospaced font that is "non-mono" ?
[11:35] <ahox> jrib: no, I don't care if i and w have the same width
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: no I just understand paid for software and proprietary software can exist as part of any OS.
[11:35] <mcl0vin> nexiu: what does ifconfig -a give you
[11:35] <ahox> jrib: but w and *w* should have
[11:35] <manohar> Ken8521: yup u r true. if we install from .deb file, dont it update ?
[11:35] <jrib> ahox: I see
[11:35] <Ken8521> manohar, no
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: to think otherwise is short sighted just like those company's whom do not support opensource projects. It runs both ways
[11:36] <dyrnade> hey all
[11:36] <mcl0vin> any remix users here beside me ?!
[11:36] <dyrnade> i want to ask something about new ubuntu beta
[11:36] <manohar> Ken8521: okz
[11:36] <rocket16> !offtopic | ActionParsnip
[11:36] <Rods_Tiger> is it just me or is it taking increasingly longer these days to do an update?
[11:36] <ahox> I don't really like to use the mono fonts, but the highlighting is done by using bold. So this gets ugly
[11:36] <erUSUL> dyrnade: #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Dyrnade: ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <Ken8521> mcl0vin, remix kinda sucks... whats the problem?
[11:36] <dyrnade> thnx
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: use less ppas and repos ;)
[11:37] <zvacet> dyrnade:  #ubuntu+1
[11:37] <mcl0vin> Ken8521: i will have to agree :)... i am trying to change the home screen menu to look like real ubuntu :)
[11:37] <Rods_Tiger> ok
[11:37] <ahox> Rods_Tiger: try aptitude --purge-unused
[11:37] <Rods_Tiger> aha
[11:37] <Rods_Tiger> I will, if this ever finishes updating
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tigers: also if you remove apps you don't need you will have less to upgrade
[11:38] <Rods_Tiger> like evolution?
[11:38] <Ken8521> mcl0vin, why not just install "the real ubuntu".. ?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: like removing openoffice and installing abiword if all you use is writer
[11:38] <Rods_Tiger> good plan
[11:38] <mcl0vin> Ken8521: afraid it will not work right on my hp mini 110
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: or evolution if you don't need it. Ubuntu ships with a LOT of fluff some you will never use
[11:38] <Fullmoon>  /etc/event.d vanished in Ubuntu lucid (development branch)?
[11:39] <Rods_Tiger> hang on, I think it's hanging at the 99% mark each time, and it turns out to be google!
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: less packages == less updates
[11:39] <Rods_Tiger> must be the chrome ppa
[11:39] <ahox> Rods_Tiger: sorry, I meant sudo dpkg --clear-avail . i copied the wrong line from my file
[11:39] <zvacet> Fullmoon: #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <Rods_Tiger> ok
[11:39] <Fullmoon> Thanks!
[11:39] <Ken8521> mcl0vin, so boot a live cd and test it
[11:39] <ahox> Rods_Tiger: the problem is that dpkg only seems to append so your db increases all the time
[11:40] <alabd> any opinion ?
[11:40] <Rods_Tiger> ah, that's why my Acer Aspire One netbook has run out of room in a few weeks
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: remove the vnc server if you don't use it, and rdesktop etc if you don't use that
[11:40] <mcl0vin> Ken8521: no CD on this mini
[11:40] <Rods_Tiger> good idea
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: also removing old kernels can claw back 120mb per kernel
[11:41] <Rods_Tiger> doesn't that happen automatically then?
[11:41] <ahox> Rods_Tiger: I don't think so, the increase is minimal
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: no
[11:41] <Ken8521> mcl0vin, ... do you have a usb thumb drive?.. around 1gig?
[11:41] <Rods_Tiger> gah - this is as bad as gentoo, then
[11:41] <zvacet> samba | samba
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: they are technically the same OS ;)
[11:41] <ahox> what might help is an aptitude autoclean
[11:41] <zvacet> samba | alabd
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[11:42] <alabd> any other way ?
[11:42] <zvacet> !samba | ala
[11:42] <ahox> or the more aggressive aptitude clean
[11:42] <Rods_Tiger> the netbook only has 8GB SSD, and it filled up within a month or so
[11:42] <nexsja> how do i remove old kernels?
[11:42] <Rods_Tiger> Ta
[11:42] <mcl0vin> Ken8521: yep i got 2 GB
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: shows the current kernel and the installed kernels
[11:42] <nexiu> mcl0vin, http://wklej.org/id/318840/
[11:42] <Rods_Tiger> there's loads!
[11:42] <nexsja> i have about 5 or more kernels listed in my grub, i'd just like to remove them
[11:42] <erUSUL> nexsja: with synaptic? search for linux-image
[11:43] <winterweaver> is it safe to backup my pupblick and private ssh keys by using the export command in Accessories >> Passwords and Encryption Keys?
[11:43] <zvacet> nexsja:  from synaptic type linux-image in search box and remove kernel qwith lower number
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Nexsja: run the above command, you can then use apt-get or software centre to remove the old kernels. Do NOT remove the current kernel
[11:43] <Rods_Tiger> why not?
[11:43] <alabd> zvacet,  which one of NFS or samba do you advice?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: ^
[11:43] <Ken8521> mcl0vin, ok.. download the i386 Live Desktop ISO from Ubuntu... its around 700mb... then use the USB Disk Creator, to put the iso on the USB drive, then boot the USB drive.. it will be just like running from a cd
[11:43] <nexsja> thank you! :>
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: it will break stuff
[11:43] <zvacet> nexsja:  keep two kernels just in case that latest doesn't work properly
[11:43] <Rods_Tiger> good reason
[11:44] <mcl0vin> Ken8521: where do i get the usb creator please, is it included in the ISO
[11:44] <Rods_Tiger> ubuntu can't be set up to ditch the older ones minus the two most recent then, automatically?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: you can get a little more space removing the video drivers you never use but its not much
[11:44] <Rods_Tiger> big apps are the best candidate then
[11:44] <Ken8521> mcl0vin, what version of ubuntu nbr are you using, it's probably on there
[11:44] <zvacet> alabd:  I don' advice just trying to give you some info
[11:44] <nexsja> ummmm
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: not as far as I know, submit it on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <nexsja> i'm removing the old kernels and
[11:45] <Rods_Tiger> ok
[11:45] <nexsja> it looks like nvidia is getting removed also... is that a bad thing?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Rods_tiger: whatever you don't need, remove
[11:45] <mcl0vin> well i will be using windows to create it
[11:45] <alabd> any opinion which one of samba and NFS is better to access files and folders on vista ?
[11:45] <mcl0vin> Ken8521: nbr? not familir with the term
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Nexsja: it will remove the nvidia kernel module for that kernel
[11:46] <nexsja> oh, so it's okay?
[11:46] <koshari> mcl0vin use unetbootin then
[11:46] <Ken8521> mcl0vin, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:46] <joaopinto> alabd, windows does not natively support NFS, it's an easy asnwer, SMB
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Nexsja: sure just remember to keep the current kernel
[11:46] <nexsja> okay :>
[11:47] <alabd> joakim, thanks  a alot god peace you bye you too zvacet
[11:47] <mcl0vin> koshari: koshari bel 3ads wala eh
[11:47] <zvacet> alabd:  np
[11:48] <Ken8521> mcl0vin, type this w/o quotes, i'll try to help you... "/join #ken8521"
[11:49] <keito_> hey folks, I've recently installed karmic and have the docky ppa enabled.  docky will NOT start when the system starts even though it is in the startup apps.  Is this a known issue and is there a fix?
[11:49] <Oer> keito_, to enable docky, did you turn on desktop effects ? ( compiz )
[11:50] <keito_> Oer, yeah.
[11:51] <keito_> Oer, it runs fine if I manually start it, but it will not launch when I reboot the pc
[11:52] <antihero> any idea why `find Music/ -regex '.*/*\.(mp3|flac|ogg)' isn't working?
[11:58] <antihero> Hello?
[11:58] <keito_> Oer, just found some answers via a different search term on Google.  Looks like even though compiz is enabled, docky tries to launch before compiz comes up so it is failing.  Great.
[12:00] <chris4585> this is a ghetto way of doing it, but you could try adding sleep 10s; docky in the startup
[12:00] <hateball> keito_: you could make a little script that sleeps a bit before launching docky
[12:00] <Oer> keito_, there is a way to delay the startup of docky , adding 'sleep 10 && <application>'
[12:00] <hateball> hehe ^^
[12:01] <chris4585> hateball, lol
[12:01] <keito_> hateball, yeah... classy
[12:01] <hateball> Hey, whatever works ;)
[12:01] <keito_> How does a bug like this make it past testing? lol
[12:02] <keito_> Other than that Karmic is OK.  I'm currently testing various systems on a Sept-boot system.... Waiting for Lucid to go final release
[12:03] <keito_> Hopefully this issue with docky will be ironed out.  knocking up a bash script to sleep a while before launching an app is just amateur
[12:03] <bitfox> hi guys
[12:04] <barberan> hello
[12:04] <keito_> !hello
[12:05] <Dr4g> Anyone here got IE working with WINE ?
[12:05] <keito_> IE... OMG
[12:05] <keito_> seriously.
[12:05] <abb> seriously++
[12:05] <frogzoo> someone can plz recommend a rss ticker for gnome?
[12:05] <keito_> on that note I shall bid you farewell.
[12:05] <Dr4g> :P i need to test my web app in IE, i don't wanna reboot into Windows
[12:05] <keito_> liferea
[12:05] <keito_> frogzoo, ^^
[12:05] <bitfox> few months ago an annoying problem starts on my ubuntu
[12:05] <frogzoo> keito_: thankee sir
[12:06] <abb> Dr4g:  Since you asked, yes, IIRC, the old (6.x) versions of IE work okay.  But the later versions -- it's just easier to virtualize windows (Virtualbox, Vmware, etc) instead.
[12:06] <erUSUL> !virtualizers |  Dr4g
[12:06] <Dr4g> thanks man
[12:06] <keito_> Dr4g, if it's for testing purposes then virtualise... but please, help make IE a thing of the past.
[12:06] <Ken8521> vbox is just to easy to setup to mess w/ the headache of trying to get IE working under Linux
[12:06] <abb> bitfox:  what annoying problem?
[12:07] <abb> Dr4g:  (what Ken8521 said)
[12:07] <Dr4g> erUSUL, which one would you use for testing IE 6, 7 or 8
[12:07] <Dr4g> Ken8521, ok thanks
[12:07] <erUSUL> Dr4g: virtualbox is the easier to get / set up
[12:07] <Dr4g> got it
[12:07] <Dr4g> brb lunch. ppl shouting "hurry up dr4g" :D
[12:08] <Dr4g> peace.
[12:08] <erUSUL> !info virtualbox-ose | Dr4g
[12:08] <abb> Dr4g:  I personally use Virtualbox, running Windows XP and Windows 7 (when required) 32 and 64 bit fine on my Karmic install.
[12:08] <Lazy^> Hi, I get this error when using apt-get or aptitude: W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/hardy/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'http'
[12:08] <bitfox> Every time i have my shell opened and I write some command... sometimes, at regular intervals the shell blocks for few moments...
[12:08] <Lazy^> dns ect are working perfectly
[12:08] <brianherman> Dr4g:http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[12:08] <abb> Dr4g:  You might want to look up the difference between virtualbox-ose and virtualbox (PUEL) -- if you have need for USB support, the PUEL version is (close source, but free) the way to go, IMO.
[12:08] <Ken8521> Lazy^, its probably medibuntu is having a prob w/ their repository...
[12:08] <frogzoo> bitfox: ur cpu @ 100% ?
[12:09] <Dr4g> brianherman, yep thanks
[12:09] <bitfox> abb: It's very annoying
[12:09] <Lazy^> Ken8521: it's with all the repositorys what i have
[12:09]  * Dr4g is writing all these down
[12:09] <bitfox> frogzoo: no
[12:09] <Lazy^> Ken8521: Err ftp://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security Release.gpg Could not resolve 'http'
[12:09] <Ken8521> Lazy^, oh... you've not added the gpg key for the medibuntu repository
[12:09] <Lazy^> same problem with that one also
[12:09] <frogzoo> bitfox: run 'vmstat 5' in a window
[12:09] <abb> Lazy^:  I just started getting Mediabuntu errors too.  I wonder if their server is down, or the main server, or...etc?  (But it's not just you.)
[12:09] <Ken8521> Lazy^, its their server.. not you
[12:10] <abb> bitfox:  when your shell blocks, immediately after it "unlocks" if you type dmesg -- do you see any errors that stick out at you?
[12:10] <Lazy^> Ken8521: but  ftp://security.ubuntu.com works on other computer :)
[12:10] <Ken8521> Lazy^, "could not resolve" suggests either there is a connection problem on your end(which you say is fine), so it must be their end.
[12:11] <Ken8521> Lazy^, is it for karmic?
[12:11] <Lazy^> but why it says "http" and not the dns-name, like "ftp://security.ubuntu.com"
[12:11] <Lazy^> yep
[12:11] <bitfox> frogzoo: one moment...
[12:11] <bitfox> abb: there aren't any errors
[12:11] <Ken8521> must be something screwy w/ yur source list..
[12:11] <abb> Lazy^:  Grep through your /etc/apt/sources.d/* and see hwo that particular item is written  -- maybe there's a typo
[12:11] <abb> Lazy^:  s/hwo/how
[12:12] <bitfox> frogzoo: done...
[12:12] <abb> bitfox:  what's your hardware, what kernel are you running, etc?   ( processor, laptop/desktop model, and output of uname -a) ?
[12:12] <Ken8521> or.. assuming both of your boxes are running the samme versions of linux, just copy the "working" source list, over to the one that "isnt" working.. and voila..
[12:13]  * abb points to Ken8521 and says "once again, what that guy said."
[12:13] <Ken8521> lol
[12:13]  * abb performs magic by proxy. Voila!
[12:13] <frogzoo> bitfox: does the output suggest any sort of resource deficiency?
[12:13] <bitfox> My laptop is acer 5600 wml
[12:14] <abb> bitfox:  remember to paste your output into pastebin or something, if it's large...
[12:14] <abb> !pastebin |bitfox
[12:14] <abb> cool, that's the first "ubottu command" I've ever used...well, except for random goofing around ... like !isThisRandomThingInThere and such.  hehe
[12:16] <abb> bitfox:  examples of what you might want to record/paste for the channel to inspect: output of sudo `lspci -v & dmesg & lshw > pastebin.txt`
[12:16] <abb> or something like that.
[12:16] <Lazy^> abb: everything seems to be ok. It's bitching about 'http' error, i can't understand why it isn't bitching with dns name. that 'http' gets me feeling that something else is fucked up
[12:17] <abb> Lazy^:  no, (with all respect) I think you're confusing the questions.  This guy is talking about a random hangup where the control prompt freezes when he's in the shell.  (Or at least that's what I THOUGHT he said.)
[12:17] <abb> Lazy^:  though I agree with your assessment of the guy with the http error. :)
[12:18] <Lazy^> abb: hehe, i just answered that with grep /etc/apt/sources.d/ seems to be ok...
[12:19] <abb> oh hell, must go afk for a bit.  bitfox, if you're out there, um... may angels fly thee to thy rest.  er, I mean, "good luck" :)
[12:21] <DanJ> Is there a reason I can't drag a window to my second monitor with a twinview (nvidia) setup running a fresh install of Karmic?
[12:21] <Ken8521> DanJ, most likely your twinview isn't setup right...
[12:21] <Ken8521> i drag stuff from one to the other all the time
[12:21] <DanJ> hrm
[12:22] <bitfox> abb: I analized the dmesg output... all seems to be ok! :-)
[12:22] <DanJ> think there's maybe a conflict with x/compiz et al
[12:22] <DanJ> I haven't used ubuntu in a while, it's changed a bit
[12:22] <DanJ> :)
[12:22] <Ken8521> DanJ, just outof curiosity, try this.... open a window on the left window, and instead of dragging it "right" to get on the right monitor... drag it left.... and see if it comes up on the right monitor
[12:22] <DanJ> nah already tried that
[12:22] <DanJ> no joy
[12:22] <DanJ> :0
[12:23] <Ken8521> lol
[12:23] <Ken8521> got me once to.. :)
[12:23] <DanJ> what's Xinerama?
[12:23] <Ken8521> never had to use it, twinview works fine
[12:23] <DanJ> kk
[12:23] <bitfox> abb: Today I tried to disable compiz effects from system->preferences but the problem doesn't disappear
[12:24] <Ken8521> DanJ, i take it you've set everything up in Nvidia-Settings?
[12:24] <DanJ> yeah AFAIK
[12:24] <Ken8521> and you've enabled the driver?
[12:24] <DanJ> yeah
[12:24] <Ken8521> hmm
[12:24] <DanJ> I have like, two desktops
[12:24] <DanJ> which is odd
[12:24] <DanJ> it's not a clone
[12:24] <Ken8521> oh.. you've got your nvidia-settings wrong
[12:24] <DanJ> oh ok
[12:24] <Ken8521> yeah, i'm not at my desktop so i cant tell you exactly how it is.
[12:25] <DanJ> oh shit
[12:25] <Ken8521> DanJ, go to nvidia-settings... and i *think* its display settings.. then click Configure.. and make sure its set to twinview
[12:25] <DanJ> I've got "seperate screen" ticked instead of twinview
[12:25] <DanJ> ha
[12:25] <DanJ> I'm a twat
[12:25] <DanJ> nvm
[12:25] <Ken8521> DanJ, yup...
[12:25] <FloodBot3> DanJ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <DanJ> harsh
[12:25] <DanJ> cool brb
[12:26] <bitfox> For example in this moments I'm typing from the terminal... all it's ok, but later the problem will appear. I'm sure
[12:26] <ctk> My shared CUPS printer will disapear from the Samba network after a while and will not receive print requests. Only solution is to restart samba/cups/network on host PC. Any help?
[12:29] <e-DIO-t> yo!
[12:29] <circuitman> just downloaded a a gtk theme for my ubuntu 9.04 and couldnt install it
[12:30] <Ken8521> e-DIO-t, what did you try to install it?
[12:31] <Ken8521> DanJ, fix the problem?  :)
[12:31] <raven> eeepc 1005ha - eth0 physical deactivated after wake-up - how to reactivate?
[12:32] <DanJ> crisper than a biscuit
[12:32] <DanJ> all sorted
[12:32] <Ken8521> lol
[12:32] <DanJ> just need to sort out hotkeys and compiz now
[12:32] <setkeh> any one here own a dell poweredge 2650 running ubuntu server ??
[12:32] <Ken8521> eh, i hate compiz... so i'll be no help there
[12:32] <DanJ> + svn, git, maven, charles, blah blah blah
[12:33] <DanJ> I like the cube
[12:33] <DanJ> that's about it
[12:33] <Ken8521> DanJ, u shouldve installed Lucid... it's really pretty solid.. but the nvidia driver is kind of a pain because of the restricted driver changes
[12:33] <littlepenguin> compiz screensaver is the best of it D:
[12:35] <littlepenguin> someone experience with chroot environment??
[12:35] <setkeh> i guess not can any one tell me why my usb device will not accept an adress when its plugged in
[12:36] <littlepenguin> setkeh a wlan stick?
[12:36] <circuitman> how to install gtk theme engine aura
[12:36] <circuitman> how to install gtk theme engine aurora
[12:37] <Ken8521> circuitman, well did you download it?
[12:37] <setkeh> littlepenguin: any device but no its a printer im working on atm
[12:37] <littlepenguin> ok so what adress you want to give the printer??
[12:37] <circuitman> ken8521: i downloaded the lightning theme
[12:38] <littlepenguin> per usb its a direct connect @setkeh
[12:38] <Ken8521> ok.. so.. whats your question?
[12:38] <e-DIO-t> n8521> e-DIO-t, what did you try to install it? [12:38] <circuitman> ken8521: i installed the lightning theme but it asks for a gtk theme engine aurora
[12:38] <setkeh> littlepenguin: its the hardware address ubuntu-server is trying to give the printer when i plug it in
[12:38] <Ken8521> ok, did you ry to download that?
[12:38] <littlepenguin> ah ok...setkeh
[12:39] <littlepenguin> what printer is it setkeh?
[12:39] <setkeh> littlepenguin: that shouldent matter because NO usb deveice isent accepting the hardware address
[12:39] <littlepenguin> setkeh ..ah ok..so dmesg doesn t give an appropiate message??
[12:40] <circuitman> ken8521:tell me how to install the gtk theme engine aurora
[12:40] <Nubulis> Hello
[12:40] <setkeh> littlepenguin: just says cant enumerate usb device on port 3
[12:41] <Amiz> anyone knows the reason why wireless doesn't work on my netbook after i installed ubuntu ?
[12:41] <nyhcjedi> what is the process of adding a printer to my ubuntu 9.10 workstation?
[12:41] <Ken8521> circuitman, go here, and search for "aurora gtk engine".. i'm assuming its one of those...  http://gnome-look.org/content/search.php
[12:41] <Nubulis> I've just installed ubuntu, I'm a linux/unix newbie. everything seems to be working fine, except the audio. Any suggestions?
[12:41] <hateball> !audio
[12:42] <Amiz> what about wireless instead ?
[12:42] <circuitman> ken8521:is it gtk+
[12:42] <littlepenguin> setkeh modules areeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee loaded?
[12:42] <littlepenguin> oh sry
[12:42] <Amiz> my wireless button doesn't seem to work
[12:43] <setkeh> littlepenguin: what modules do you need for usb / doesent the kernel load them at boot
[12:43] <Ken8521> Amiz, well, unemployment in the US is very high, maybe it just can't find a job
[12:43] <littlepenguin> you should check if usb modules are loaded..maybe why ever they are not loaded
[12:43] <domenico> !list
[12:44] <e-DIO-t> pardon: does anybody know anything about a kernel error on wifi modules in Karmic Koala over Acer Extensa 5635Z?
[12:44] <Amiz> you are so funny ken
[12:44] <Amiz> or not
[12:44] <Amiz> :D
[12:44] <setkeh> littlepenguin: that brings me back to the first question what modules are needed for usb
[12:44] <Ken8521> setkeh, its quiite possible you have a hardware recognition issue.. its just not recognizing your internal usb hub.
[12:44] <Ken8521> Amiz, well, you said it wouldn't work.. why don't you try expanding on your question
[12:44] <littlepenguin> @setkeh first do lsmod |grep usb
[12:45] <Ken8521> e-DIO-t, whats your wireless device, and what is the kernel error?
[12:45] <setkeh> Ken8521: i have i have a linux foundation 1.1 root hub in my lsusb
[12:45] <circuitman> ken8521:am sorry i cant find
[12:45] <Nubulis> got it. thank you
[12:45] <setkeh> littlepenguin: you command phails
[12:45] <Amiz> Well it's a Compaq 700EL, i've installed ubuntu, sound and everything works, just the wifi switch, when i press it to turn it on it stays orange and doesn't turn blue
[12:46] <e-DIO-t> mmh i should reinstall -> the main problem is a Wifi module crash -> connection fault. After an update it prints no error, btw wireless falls down in a "some minute".
[12:46] <e-DIO-t> [i should reinstall it to give you proper infos]
[12:46] <Ken8521> Amiz, but does your wifi work?.. that's not an uncommon issue to be truthful.. mine has never even lit up... but my wifi works fine
[12:47] <Amiz> it doesn't
[12:47] <Ken8521> Amiz, now we're getting somewhere.
[12:47] <setkeh> Ken8521: Amiz: sometimes you need to load an extra modual for you wifi light to work
[12:47] <Ken8521> when you click nm-applet, can you see networks?
[12:47] <Ken8521> setkeh, true... i've never bothered.. but i was really speaking about "out of the box"
[12:47] <e-DIO-t> wireless is AtherosAR928X
[12:47] <Amiz> extra modual ? what's that and how to load it ?
[12:47] <e-DIO-t> cellphone
[12:48] <Ken8521> Amiz, it doesn't matter, it won't fix your problem
[12:48] <littlepenguin> @setkeh try sudo modprobe -r usbhid
[12:48] <setkeh> Ken8521: yeh :D i was just putting it out there :D
[12:48] <Dr4g> Hey guys im back. Installed virtualbox now and when setting up an XP environment it's asking me to choose the size of my boot hard disk
[12:48] <setkeh> littlepenguin: same error
[12:48] <Ken8521> Dr4g, i made mine 10gigs.. but i have nothing but zune software and itunes on mine... don't even have antivirus..::shutter::
[12:49] <Dr4g> ok ok
[12:49] <DanJ> Ken8521: what's Lucid?
[12:49] <Ken8521> i even turned off auto-updates..lol
[12:49] <Dr4g> so i have WinXP native on this machine . installed ubuntu via Wubi (so its insdie my XP Install)
[12:49] <Dr4g> Can i run this virtualbox in a window like VMWare? so i dont have to reboot
[12:49] <Ken8521> DanJ, ubuntu 10.04.. its in beta right now, due out end of the month.
[12:49] <csaba> gcal can display national holidays set by locale... is there a way I can do the same with the calendar on the taskbar?
[12:49] <Daugha|n> HOw would I check FSB speeds?
[12:49] <Ken8521> Dr4g, yes, thats the idea behind of it...
[12:50] <Dr4g> Ken8521, ok what should i do when it's asking me about boot hard disks
[12:50] <DanJ> I need a stable environment, this is a work box :)
[12:50] <Dr4g> to create a new hard disk or use existing one
[12:50] <Ken8521> DanJ, ah, gotcha, yeah its not for that.. yet
[12:50] <setkeh> Amiz: what wireless card do you have ???
[12:50] <DanJ> yeah if it was a play around I'd be up for it :)
[12:50] <Dr4g> Ken8521, can you advise ?
[12:50] <Amiz> im checking setkeh give me a min
[12:51] <sheepz> hello, how do I paste text out of vi that is longer than one "screenful"?
[12:51] <setkeh> Amiz: okie :D
[12:51] <Ken8521> Dr4g, its been a while since i had to install something in vbox, should be fairly self explanatory
[12:51] <Oer> sheepz, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:51] <littlepenguin> setkeh do u use mouse or usb keyboard??
[12:51] <csaba> gcal can display national holidays set by locale... is there a way I can do the same with the calendar on the taskbar?
[12:51] <Dr4g> Ken8521, yea im' not a newbie to this stuff bit it's quite ambigious
[12:52] <Dr4g> ambigous *
[12:52] <Ken8521> Dr4g, gimme a sec, i'll go get on my PC and brb.
[12:52] <Dr4g> this is a work machine so cautious to mess with hard disk settings
[12:52] <Amiz> cannot find it, stupid websites reporting everything but usefull stuff
[12:52] <setkeh> littlepenguin: nope i have an old ps/2 keyboard its a dell poweredge 2650 "rack draw" running ubuntu server i dont need a mouse :D
[12:53] <littlepenguin> ok...so it seems that the module is missing that causes no usb
[12:53] <littlepenguin> maybe...
[12:53] <nyhcjedi> how do i add a network printer with ubuntu
[12:53] <frogzoo> any gnome rss readers worth evaluating other than liferea & yarssr
[12:53] <ne7work> please someone help me with phpmyadmin i need to fix this problem fast
[12:53] <setkeh> littlepenguin: if the module was missing modprobe would have failed ???
[12:53] <frogzoo> nyhcjedi: from cups
[12:53] <Amiz> ca
[12:54] <Amiz> cannot find it setkeh
[12:54] <Amiz> it's a Compaq 700EL anyway
[12:54] <csaba> any idea how to set the calendar from the taskbar to display national holidays?
[12:54] <Amiz> if you got better luck than me
[12:54] <Fullmoon> What is, in linux, the correct way to start a process under a different user?
[12:54] <jrib> ne7work: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:54] <frogzoo> Fullmoon: su -c fubar
[12:54] <Fullmoon> frogzoo: Thanks
[12:54] <frogzoo> Fullmoon: su user -c fubar
[12:54] <Fullmoon> (Solaris background :)
[12:54] <setkeh> Amiz: do lspci and it will show as a wireless network controller
[12:54] <Ken8521> Dr4g, what version of vbox did you install?
[12:55] <Amiz> lspci where?
[12:55] <Amiz> terminal ?
[12:55] <Pici> !enter | Amiz
[12:55] <h3r0> yes
[12:55] <littlepenguin> @setkeh try lsmod and look for usbhid
[12:55] <Dr4g> Ken8521, wanna move to PM ?
[12:55] <Amiz> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312
[12:55] <circuitman> i cant install the gtk+ theme enigne aurora
[12:55] <littlepenguin> if its not there it isn t loaded
[12:55] <frogzoo> any gnome rss readers worth evaluating other than liferea & yarssr
[12:55] <circuitman> help me please
[12:56] <Amiz> that's the network controller
[12:56] <Ken8521> Dr4g, i'm not registered, but we can go to a priv. room.. "/join #ken8521"
[12:56] <h3r0> owh bcm4312 u can try to google it.. i've installed it before and managed to do so :)
[12:56] <kermit> how can i pass filesystem mount options to the root filesystem at boot?
[12:56] <raven> eeepc 1005ha - eth0 physical deactivated after wake-up - how to reactivate?
[12:56] <littlepenguin> @raven..try ifup eth0
[12:56] <setkeh> littlepenguin: lsmod | grep usbhid fails just drops me back to terminal with no output
[12:57] <h3r0> bye all take care :)
[12:57] <tuser> hello
[12:57] <littlepenguin> @setkeh do you use vmware or other sw??
[12:58] <setkeh> littlepenguin: nope its running dedicated
[12:58] <raven> littlepenguin, " unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[12:58] <Amiz> which linux version is based on the last ubuntu ?
[12:58] <Amiz> i've got several versions of this bcm4312 drivers
[12:59] <muhal_> o
[12:59] <muhal_> hello
[12:59] <Promille> Hey. I've mounted a ISO(Game) with Kiso. The game contains of 4 ISO's and after installing from first ISO it expect second ISO. So I mount it with Kiso. But how can I point installer to where its located. Where is the ISO mounted too? Thanks!
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Promille:  you can use teh proper mount commands and mount all 4 iso's if you wanted. I rarely use kiso. so no idea where it puts things, /media/Somthing proberly
[13:02] <geekphreak> hello all
[13:02] <w0ot> test
[13:02] <circuitman> hey,help me dudes
[13:02] <circuitman> how to install the gtk+ theme engine called aurora
[13:03] <Promille> Let me rephrase the question then. How can I check whats mounted where?
[13:03] <psycho_oreos> mount
[13:03] <iceroot> Promille: mount or df
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> I thoighjt one normally compiled/installed theme engines circuitman .
[13:04] <geekphreak> iceroot: howdy mate
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Promille:  the 'mount' command shows mountpoints normally. Unless the thing is mounted via fuse.
[13:04] <iceroot> geekphreak: hi
[13:04] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis: howdy
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> moo geekphreak
[13:04] <circuitman> Dr_willis:sorry i didnt get what u sai
[13:04] <circuitman> *said
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:  if its source - you compile it..
[13:05] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis: mooo :p
[13:05] <Promille> Dr_Willis, iceroot df did the trick. thanks :)
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:  theres various tools like 'gnome-art' that let you easially install most theme parts from the gnome art web site.
[13:05] <csaba> compile it... with a compiler?
[13:05] <circuitman> Dr_willis:but first tell me how to downlaod the gtk+ theme engine called aurora
[13:06] <csaba> with a download engine
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:  find it at the various gnome art web sites and download it..
[13:06] <circuitman> Dr_willis:i actually downloaded a theme called lightning and tried to install it
[13:06] <csaba> did you compile it?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:  not all 'themes' are actually themes.. many are  theme 'parts'
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:  it seems that an Aurora theme engine is in the repos.
[13:07] <xXedixXx> Ello
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> !info gtk2-engines-aurora
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:  bit that seems to be in Lucid only
[13:08] <xXedixXx> Does anyone know of any good Java programming rooms?
[13:08] <circuitman> Dr_willis: it returned an error saying that "the theme will not look as intended because the gtk+ theme engine aurora is not installed"
[13:08] <Pici> xXedixXx: ##java
[13:08] <xXedixXx> Ty :P
[13:08] <matteo1990> Hi all, i am getting a problem with xulrunner in package manager, anyone may help? here is the log of package manager http://pastebin.com/ePiYkZrm
[13:08] <xXedixXx> join ##java
[13:08] <Pici> !register | xXedixXx you'll need this
[13:08] <xXedixXx> Channel is invite only..
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:  it will still work.. just not look 100% like intended.  Not really a big deal. I mix and match the theme parts how i like anyway
[13:09] <John-86> sudo hello
[13:09] <xXedixXx> Loi?
[13:09] <NET||abuse> hey guys,, anyone know how to get something like sloppy proxy working on ubuntu?
[13:09] <circuitman> Dr_willis: but i want to install it
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:  or use the PPA repos for the different theme parts --> https://launchpad.net/~merlwiz79/+archive/aurora
[13:09] <chripher> is Nick G here?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:  so use that ppa repo
[13:09] <NET||abuse> need a proxy to simulate slow uploads to my localhost.. for upload progress bars :)
[13:10] <John-86> do you know how to use zenmap ??
[13:10] <xXedixXx> Is anyone using 10.04?
[13:10] <John-86> yup
[13:10] <xXedixXx> Is it worth upgrading?
[13:10] <John-86> is quite similar to mac
[13:10] <xXedixXx> Is it stable?
[13:10] <John-86> yup
[13:10] <tuser> cant get audio workong Audio AC97 motherboard is MS-6741
[13:10] <FloodBot3> John-86: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <xXedixXx> How do you get it again? Do you configure the package list to -d or soemthing?
[13:10] <John-86> squid
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:  i dont bend over to far backwards for themes any more.. most look almost identical. and theres very good ones allready in the repos ready to be installed. or in alternative PPA repos.
[13:10] <circuitman> Dr_willis:not getting what u r saying
[13:10] <Oer> !lucid | xXedixXx
[13:11] <John-86> can't read faster
[13:11] <tuser> any help
[13:11] <John-86> lool
[13:11] <xXedixXx> Alright.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> circuitman:   that url i gave. has the theme engine - allready done. so you can instgll it with a few commands.
[13:11] <tuser> pls
[13:11] <NET||abuse> xXedixXx, it's quite stable, i'm on it now, but the upgrade failed for me, i had to blow away my system install and re-install from scratch, thankfully my /home is in seperate partition :)
[13:11] <NET||abuse> xXedixXx, so few problems after the re-install though, was brilliant.
[13:11] <John-86> hehe
[13:11] <NET||abuse> xXedixXx, very happy with it now have to say.
[13:11] <John-86> hehe
[13:12] <NET||abuse> so anyone know of something like a slow proxy i can use ?
[13:12] <John-86> is similar to mac ,, i really liked
[13:12] <xXedixXx> Alright..
[13:12] <xXedixXx> Well...
[13:12] <xXedixXx> This is like my only PC.
[13:12] <xXedixXx> Because I broke my desktop.
[13:12] <FloodBot3> xXedixXx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <xXedixXx> As long as I back up my stuff, should I just upgrade?
[13:12] <Oer> NET||abuse, never heard about a slow proxy
[13:12] <Pici> Please use #ubuntu+1 for lucid discussion.
[13:12] <circuitman> Dr_willis:where is the url
[13:13] <NET||abuse> Oer, well, there's a java one but i'm having trouble getting it to run on ubuntu (lucid) http://dallaway.com/sloppy/sloppy.jnlp
[13:13] <circuitman> Dr_willis:ok got it
[13:13] <John-86> any one use vbox ??
[13:13] <NET||abuse> Oer, sorry, that was direct link to the java script,, http://dallaway.com/sloppy/
[13:13] <geekphreak> Oer: hello
[13:14] <perhamlinux> John-86: yes, what's the problem?
[13:14] <Pici> John-86: Many people use vbox, best to just ask your question.  If its about running a specific OS inside of vbox, your best bet is the vbox support channel: #vbox
[13:14] <matteo1990> Hi all, i am getting a problem with xulrunner in package manager, anyone may help? here is the log of package manager http://pastebin.com/ePiYkZrm
[13:14] <John-86> okok
[13:14] <John-86> sorry
[13:15] <littlepenguin> @setkeh i have tested...if i check the usbhid module isn t loaded at startup because vmware only uses ps2..after a sudo modprobe usbhid the module gets loaded
[13:15] <Chetic_> how do you start an X program without making the terminal occupied by the program?
[13:15] <geekphreak> Chetic_: you mean like application_name &
[13:15] <NET||abuse> Chetic, $> command &
[13:15] <syli725> hi, any good 3D image viewer? something like making 3D wall of all images.
[13:16] <gwen_> u can use gimp for 3D pic ...
[13:16] <Chetic_> geekphreak, yeah! thanks
[13:16] <Chetic_> NET||abuse, thank you too
[13:16] <NET||abuse> syli725, 3d image viewer?  best open 3d program around is ehh,,, whatcha callit,, ah, yeh, blender
[13:17] <geekphreak> syli725: blender?
[13:17] <perhamlinux> Chetic_: but if you close the terminal the program closes too.
[13:17] <grkblood> is there a way to log mouse clicks
[13:17] <tuser> cant get audio workong Audio AC97 motherboard is MS-6741
[13:17] <Chetic_> perhamlinux, that's a good thing (in this case)
[13:17] <geekphreak> grkblood: log mouse clicks really?
[13:17] <grkblood> geekphreak: yes
[13:17] <NET||abuse> grkblood, depends on how you mean? i think there's some simple python bindings for watching dbus for mouse or keyboard activity,, not sure htough, never done it.
[13:17] <geekphreak> grkblood:  not that i know off mate
[13:18] <perhamlinux> grkblood: you can access your mouse directly at /dev/input/by-path/..
[13:18] <grkblood> im writing a program/script that needs a start and stop log from a certain prog
[13:18] <syli725> sorry, I think I didn't express my questions correctly. gimp and blender are image editing programs. What I want is just viewing images in a cool way. image viewer like gthumb, gwenview etc... but they don't support 3D wall feature.
[13:18] <grkblood> i want to be able to get the start and stop without altering the program
[13:19] <John-86> would you mind telling me the name of the program !!
[13:19] <Segate> Who install ubuntu with wubi.exe?
[13:19] <cet> I was on a different computer setting up gnus to use smtp to send mail through a remote server when the Internet connection died. Now that computer can't connect to the Internet, and can't even connect to webmin through local host. What could be wrong?
[13:19] <raven> littlepenguin, " unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[13:19] <raven> eeepc 1005ha - eth0 physical deactivated after wake-up - how to reactivate?
[13:19] <NET||abuse> syli725, you mean like cooliris?
[13:20] <perhamlinux> what program John-86?
[13:20] <Oer> NET||abuse, can trickle help, it is a user-space bandwidth shaper
[13:20] <Segate> кто нть ставил убунту с вуби? там какой пасс на рут автоматом ставится? )
[13:20] <John-86> sudo nano /etc/nework/interfaces
[13:20] <NET||abuse> Oer, ooh, that's one i've not looked at,,, cheers, i'll check it out
[13:20] <syli725> NET||abuse, yeah, right. but cooliris is based on flash. I don't like flash.
[13:20] <Pici> !ru | Segate
[13:20] <geekphreak> hi Pici
[13:20] <perhamlinux> ubottu: you're a smart bot!
[13:20] <NET||abuse> syli725, no there's non-flash desktop app version it think too,, but no t sure there's on ewith opengl support for linux..
[13:21] <Pici> geekphreak: howdy
[13:21] <NET||abuse> syli725, i think it always used bloody driectx binding within flash and other things.
[13:22] <syli725> NET||abuse, I think there should be one exists with opengl 3d support. that's why I am here to ask. just like what compiz-fusion 3D wall to preview all desktops. instead of previewing desktops, I want to preview all images.
[13:23] <geekphreak> syli725: its a kool idea,
[13:23] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=39a0c4eb7a2085c04d8c2fa0d3369266&p=9137958#post9137958 syli725
[13:24] <raven> eeepc 1005ha - eth0 physical deactivated after wake-up - how to reactivate?
[13:24] <geekphreak> bazhang: hi mate
[13:24] <bazhang> geekphreak, hi
[13:24] <geekphreak> raven: sudo ifconfig eth0 up ??
[13:24] <bazhang> raven, sudo dhclient eth0 not doing it?
[13:25] <sebersole> i have a problem where a particular application disappears from the task bar (the one at the bottom, I believe thats what it is called).  If I can find the window (alt+tab, etc) and minimize it shows up again for some time until it disappears again.  anyone seen this?  anyway to make it alwasy be there?
[13:25] <littlepenguin> raven have you checked your interfaces file?
[13:26] <syli725> bazhang, thanks a lot. I will try to install picturewall. :)
[13:26] <raven> geekphreak, bazhang "no such device"
[13:26] <bazhang> raven, sudo ifup eth0 ?
[13:26] <sebersole> its launched from a hand-written .desktop launcher if that helps
[13:26] <gwen_> sebersole : click right on task bar .... choose add and choose program list
[13:27] <raven> littlepenguin, what do you mean?
[13:27] <sebersole> gwen_ i mean when running
[13:27] <sebersole> not how to launch it
[13:27] <littlepenguin> is everything set correctly under your network settings file?
[13:27] <littlepenguin> @raven
[13:28] <sebersole> i launch this app and it will initially show up in task bar, eventually it will go away even though it is still running
[13:28] <geekphreak> sebersole: whats the application name?
[13:29] <sebersole> idea
[13:29] <sebersole> its a java ide
[13:29] <raven> littlepenguin, it's there on startup if it's connected but if not and after wake-up "no such device" and not able to activate it
[13:29] <geekphreak> ok
[13:29] <geekphreak> sebersole: if you press alt+tab you see it running?
[13:29] <sebersole> yep
[13:29] <sebersole> and if i minimize everything i can see it
[13:30] <geekphreak> sebersole: are you using kde?
[13:30] <sebersole> no
[13:30] <geekphreak> ok
[13:30] <sebersole> gnome
[13:30] <gwen_> sebersole : it's just with idea or other app too ?
[13:30] <sebersole> though the .desktop was originally donefor kde
[13:30] <Hariharakadan> Hm. Does "$ iptables -L" usually take a while to list all the current rules that were set? I have quite a few set and it seems to display 3/minute
[13:30] <sebersole> i've only noticed it for idea so far
[13:30] <geekphreak> Hariharakadan: yes
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Hariharakadan:  you may need a sudo in the front of that..
[13:31] <sebersole> i only switched back to gnome a few days ago
[13:31] <Hariharakadan> Ah thanks geekphreak
[13:31] <perhamlinux> medibuntu servers are down? apt-get update reports that from yesterday
[13:31] <littlepenguin> @raven so connect it while starting would be the workaround ;:D
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> perhamlinux:  they have been having some issues
[13:31] <Hariharakadan> Yea, I forgot to add it on here ;p
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html
[13:31] <matteo1990> Hi all, i am getting a problem with xulrunner in package manager, anyone may help? here is the log of package manager http://pastebin.com/ePiYkZrm
[13:32] <littlepenguin> @raven do you use network manager from gnome =?
[13:32] <raven> littlepenguin, nice way - i am doing it all the time
[13:32] <raven> yes....
[13:33] <ZykoticK9> perhamlinux, if you have a launchpad account you might consider adding yourself to the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810
[13:33] <geekphreak> matteo1990:  hello
[13:33] <littlepenguin> ok i had nearly same issues..my solution was removing network-manager completely and reinstalling through cd
[13:33] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, thanks for the medibuntu / webupd8 link :)
[13:34] <geekphreak> matteo1990: delete the /var/cache/apt/archive/xulrunner.deb file then redownload it
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  yep. gotta love news feeds in the browser menus :)
[13:34] <littlepenguin> second would be to purge network manager and only use the files in /etc/network/
[13:34] <perhamlinux> ZykoticK9: isn't that just a normal down-time issue?
[13:34] <sebersole> so no ideas on the case of the disappearing task bar entries?
[13:34] <geekphreak> sebersole: look in ide option, is there a timeout thing there for icon?
[13:35] <sebersole> no
[13:35] <ZykoticK9> perhamlinux, not a normal down-time no - see the date - bug was added yesterday due to the issue we are all having
[13:35] <sebersole> would it be any setting in the .desktop file?
[13:35] <geekphreak> sebersole: nope , did it work ok before?
[13:36] <sebersole> geekphreak: b4 i was running kde
[13:36] <sebersole> and yes
[13:36] <geekphreak> sebersole: did icon fade away before too or was it ok?
[13:36] <sebersole> it was fine
[13:36] <geekphreak> ok
[13:36] <geekphreak> sebersole:  then do this
[13:37] <sebersole> even though these .desktop files are supposed to be common i am seeing a lot of kde specific stuff in there
[13:37] <geekphreak> sebersole:  open terminal , and loook in folder .gconf/apps and .kde/share/apps and rename the folder for idea to idea.back
[13:38] <sebersole> geekphreak: none under ~/.kde/share/apps
[13:39] <geekphreak> sebersole:  any setting or . files/folder for that ide, i dont use it :)
[13:39] <sebersole> nor ~/.gconf/apps
[13:39] <sebersole> what kind?
[13:39] <sebersole> sure it has a directory where it stores info
[13:40] <geekphreak> sebersole:  and where is that ?
[13:40] <sjefen6> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/bitlbee is 2 versions behind http://www.bitlbee.org
[13:40] <matteo1990> geekphreak, It worked, thx alot :D
[13:40] <sebersole> ~/.IntelliJIdea90
[13:40] <geekphreak> matteo1990: welcome
[13:41] <geekphreak> sebersole:  rename it ~/.IntelliJIdea90.bak
[13:41] <sebersole> ugh
[13:41] <nevrax> hi
[13:41] <ZykoticK9> sjefen6, Ubuntu's default repo will never be cutting-edge, see if there is a PPA with an updated version
[13:42] <sjefen6> what is an ppa?
[13:42] <bazhang> !ppa
[13:43] <bazhang> sjefen6, search terms ppa ubuntu bitlbee should turn it up if it exists
[13:43] <ZykoticK9> sjefen6, sorry - search on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas -- PPAs are people's packages (NOT created by Ubuntu)
[13:44] <Besogon> Hello! Why isn't firefox being compiled with PGO in ubuntu? I heard this is main reason why firefox is so slow in linux.
[13:44] <bullgard4> How can I debug Empathy? man empathy: "ENVIRONMENT: EMPATHY_LOGFILE=filename. If set, debug output will go to the given file rather than to stderr." How can I set 'EMPATHY_LOGFILE=<filename>'?
[13:45] <syli725> just installed picturewall. it's what I want. but it has some problems and lacks of features. when I click on one image, it will not use the correct resolution of the image. instead, it will make all images with the same resultion when zooming in. thus, the image will be distorted onclick.
[13:45] <maani> how can i run failsafe desktop by command line? i need something like gnome-session which starts the gnome desktop
[13:46] <maani> my gnome-session package is broken now, and i dont have any other way to get it back but getting into failsafe in order to reinstall gnome-session package
[13:46] <sjefen6> bazhang: I cant seem to find any. Is my only option left to build for source?
[13:47] <Besogon> bullgard4: You can do it in menu of empathy. You should click sent. then you will be sent to the site with bugs. You should have registration on it to post your bug
[13:47] <littlepenguin> @bullgard EMPATHY_LOGFILE=/tmp/empathy.log GST_DEBUG=\*fsrtp\*:5 EMPATHY_DEBUG=all empathy
[13:47] <maani> no idea?
[13:47] <littlepenguin> this will create the log under /tmp/empathy.log
[13:48] <Boon> how to install php 5.2 ? because everytime i used apt-get install php  it will install 5.3
[13:48] <Besogon> littlepenguin: dosen't empathy make log by itself?
[13:49] <littlepenguin> yes it is normally under /var/log/ but this will create a detailled debug
[13:49] <littlepenguin> someone of you opened my cd drive???
[13:50] <scunizi> I installed swat for samba control but get a limited interface after logging in.. what am I doing wrong.
[13:50] <yara> مرحبا
[13:50] <erUSUL> !swat
[13:50] <brigita> is there any HP scan application for ubuntu, that is the same as in Windows OS ?
[13:50] <nevrax> is there any difference between Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition repository and Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server Edition repository?
[13:50] <erUSUL> !sa
[13:50] <nevrax> both desktop and server edition seem to have the same repository http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/
[13:50] <yara>  /join #ubuntu-sa
[13:51] <Pici> nevrax: The repositories are the same.
[13:51] <IdleOne> yara: /join #ubuntu-arabic
[13:51] <nevrax> Pici: i want to make a network install, how can i make the difference between desktop and server?
[13:51] <geekphreak> IdleOne: howdy :)
[13:51] <Boon> ??????/
[13:51] <Boon> how to install php 5.2 ? because everytime i used apt-get install php  it will install 5.3
[13:51] <Besogon> scunizi: if you don't have to administrate a big net and need to configure only your PS you can use more simple config program then swat
[13:51] <bazhang> syli725, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/picturewall-sleek-local-and-googlecom.html or compile from google source
[13:51] <Boon> any 1 help?
[13:52] <Pici> nevrax: The difference is the base packages isntalled.
[13:52] <IdleOne> hello geekphreak :)
[13:52] <erUSUL> Boon: usually only one version of php is aviable in each ubuntu release ...
[13:52] <Demiurge_> How do I id a particular window? I'd like to exclude a panel from one of the effects in compiz, using compizconfig.
[13:52] <syli725> bazhang, ok. thanks.
[13:52] <nevrax> Pici: and for an automated install i can choose the base package from kickstart or preseed?
[13:52] <bazhang> Demiurge_, asked in #compiz yet?
[13:52] <Pici> nevrax: Yes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server and network installations
[13:52] <Besogon> scunizi: system-config-samba for example. BUT don't use gadmin if you don't reallyknow samba well
[13:53] <Boon> guess i need to compile it manually
[13:53] <erUSUL> Boon: so the question is; is not 5.3 compatible with 5.2 ?
[13:53] <nevrax> Pici: hmm... in that case ubuntu rullz!
[13:53] <bullgard4> Besogon: Where do I find "sent" in Empathy's menu hierarchy?
[13:53] <maani> where is the source.list directory? :d
[13:53] <nevrax> Pici: thank you
[13:53] <littlepenguin> @boon go into synaptic choose php and select force older version
[13:53] <Pici> maani: /etc/apt/ or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[13:53] <bazhang> maani, /etc/apt/
[13:53] <scunizi> Besogon: I've tried cli and have been reading my samba book.. googleing etc.. ultimately what I'm trying to accomplish is to have one folder on a secondary drive accessable by anyone, without authentication.. (I used system-config-samba.. got me half way there)
[13:53] <maani> :D Merci
[13:53] <Demiurge_> bazhang: No, in another ubuntu channel. And I got an answer(xwininfo).
[13:54] <scunizi> Besogon: system-config-samba did that just fine but all files placed on the share are owned by the creator so write access is impossible unless you own it.
[13:54] <Boon> erUSUL : i run a specific script which will only work in 5.2
[13:55] <littlepenguin> @boon have you read my answer?
[13:55] <erUSUL> Boon: wouldn't be easier to make the script work in 5.3 than to compile 5.2; just asking?
[13:55] <Besogon> bullgard4: I can't recollect exactly but in some place of main menu. At the right hand...
[13:55] <geekphreak> erUSUL: nnaw mate, it depends on server where your hosting website
[13:56] <bullgard4> Besogon: hm
[13:56] <bullgard4> maani: /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:56] <Kiff> is there a way to calibrate the audio slider in gnome. it becomes muted just under halfway
[13:57] <geekphreak> btw erUSUL hello :)
[13:57] <littlepenguin> @ kiff there is a pulseaudio mixer applet on engl ubuntu forums somewhere
[13:57] <bullgard4> Kiff: There are several audio sliders in GNOME.
[13:57] <erUSUL> geekphreak: hi \o/
[13:57] <geekphreak> loll
[13:58] <Besogon> bullgard4: At least see in place where is HELP item and ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
[13:58] <geekphreak> littlepenguin:  you said empathy saved log in /var/log ,  does it have its own file or uses the main system file ?
[13:58] <Boon> littlepenguin : synaptic
[13:58] <Boon> ?
[13:59] <kermit> how can i mount options to the root filesystem?
[13:59] <kermit> +pass
[13:59] <geekphreak> kermit: sorry did not get the question
[13:59] <Pici> kermit: look at /etc/fstab
[13:59] <littlepenguin> yep boon..start synaptic..choose php..then rightclick properties and you can choose older versions for installation..havent tried it but should work
[13:59] <Kiff> bullgard4:  i dont know what its called. the standard one from standard install that sets system volume
[13:59] <Boon> installing synaptic now
[14:00] <geekphreak> Boon: its already installed :)
[14:00] <Kiff> linked to function button +up or down
[14:00] <kermit> Pici: my /etc/fstab is on my root filesystem
[14:00] <Pici> kermit: Then boot with a liveCD to modify it,.
[14:00] <bullgard4> Besogon: I have found Help > Debug > Debug Window. Where is there a 'sent' menu item?
[14:01] <kermit> geekphreak: things that would go after '-o' when mounting, column 4 in /etc/fstab .. how do i pass them to the mounting of my root filesystem?
[14:01] <Besogon> bullgard4: yes that is
[14:01] <Boon> now this
[14:01] <Boon> (synaptic:31641): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[14:01] <geekphreak> oh ok :)
[14:01] <Boon> @_@
[14:01] <bullgard4> Kiff: I do not know a standard volume control and and I do not know 'system volume'.
[14:01] <kermit> Pici: then it's not the root filesystem, which isnt the question
[14:02] <yara> احد يتحدث العربية هنا
[14:02] <bullgard4> Besogon: Thank you very much.
[14:02] <bullgard4> ar!  yara
[14:02] <bullgard4> ar! | yara
[14:02] <Besogon> bullgard4: say yes to empathy developers:-D
[14:02] <bullgard4> Besogon:  :-)
[14:02] <littlepenguin> ok boon from command line use apt-egt
[14:03] <littlepenguin> apt-get install pkg [ { =pkg_version_number
[14:03] <littlepenguin> so boon it should go with : apt-get install php 5.2 or sthg like this
[14:04] <Paladine> can someone give me the link to the irc council meeting agenda please
[14:04] <Kiff> bullgard4: im guessing its pulseaudio
[14:05] <Pici> Paladine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda
[14:05] <Paladine> thanks
[14:06] <outer_space> how do I make windows open on the right side of the screen instead of the left side?
[14:07] <gf0710020216> hello everyone,i'm a chinese
[14:07] <littlepenguin> hello chinese :D
[14:08] <ZykoticK9> gf0710020216, you are welcome to say here if you are comfortable in english but there is a chinese channel as well
[14:08] <gf0710020216> i'm in here to improve my english
[14:08] <outer_space> where do I edit metacity window options so things open on the right?
[14:09] <erUSUL> outer_space: gconf-editor ?
[14:09] <gf0710020216> you know ,as a non english-speaking country,learning english is difficult
[14:10] <bazhang> gf0710020216, did you have an ubuntu support question?
 I think you would not improve your english here, 'coz of the slang, and such people like and like me....
[14:10] <bazhang> gf0710020216, if not then chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:11] <jeeves_Moss> how can I get the restricted drivers for a AR2413 installed from the CLI?
[14:12] <gf0710020216> many people come and go,but so little people chat or have an expression
[14:12] <bazhang> gf0710020216, this is not a chat channel, its for Ubuntu support only
[14:13] <bazhang> gf0710020216, /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[14:13] <NET||abuse> dont' see how to use trickle as a real proxy,, really just want a proxy on localhost that will serve anything at a limited rate..
[14:13] <NET||abuse> sloppy isn't working for me.
[14:13] <gf0710020216> thanks
[14:14] <barberan> What is the appreciably difference between 10.04 and 9.10 ?
[14:14] <erkan^> !woordenboek
[14:14] <remco_> erk , dutch will probably not work :P
[14:14] <csaba> I think 9.10 is the supported version for the next 2 years
[14:14] <littlepenguin> 10.04 design improvements..speed improvements while booting...
[14:14] <erUSUL> barberan: the default theme :) head to #ubuntu+1 for more lucid info
[14:15] <barberan> erUSUL thankx
[14:15] <gf0710020216> do you know some other irc chat channels?
[14:15] <erUSUL> csaba: 9.10 has 18 month support (desktop version)
[14:15] <barberan> gf: use /list command
[14:15] <Pici> gf0710020216: /msg alis help list
[14:15] <csaba> erUSUL, ever since I've upgraded from the previously supported version, 8.04 or something, I've been having troubles... now I won't move from 9.10 for any price
[14:15] <erUSUL> gf0710020216: /msg alis list '*searchstring*'
[14:16] <remco_> 9.04 has been the stablest version for me so far..
[14:17] <csaba> it's true that 9.10 has some problems with java and swt
[14:17] <erUSUL> csaba: 8.04 was LTS wich is supported 3 years; 10.04 is also LTS (so you could have done 8.04 to 10.04 upgrade if you like stability)
[14:17] <gf0710020216> how do "/msg" and" /list"  use
[14:17] <csaba> I see
[14:17] <gf0710020216> i'm a baby in irc
[14:17] <erUSUL> gf0710020216: all of those things are done in the text entry box of you irc client
[14:18] <csaba> gf0710020216, and you change your name with /nick
[14:18] <erUSUL> gf0710020216: /msg alis list '*ubuntu*'
[14:18] <erUSUL> gf0710020216: that will open a new window with all the ubuntu channels in freenode
[14:18] <phrearch> he
[14:19] <phrearch> im trying to remove a process, but it keeps coming back
[14:19] <phrearch> its no more in /etc/init.d though :S
[14:19] <Guest8535> hey whats up
[14:19] <eeelectricalan> hey can someone tell me how to vpn?
[14:19] <eeelectricalan> i installed vpn but im not sure how to configure it
[14:19] <Guest8535> can anyone tell me how to install skype
[14:19] <Guest8535>  ?/
[14:20] <csaba> Guest8535, go to www.skype.com and download the deb package
[14:20] <bastid_raZor> !skype | Guest8535
[14:20] <gf0710020216> i see,you may mean in a linux system;i'm in windows7 ,using xchat 2,there is graphic command in it
[14:21] <www> gf0710020216: win 7?
[14:21] <gf0710020216> yes
[14:21] <Oer> gf0710020216, read the manual, or click server > server list
so what's up?
[14:21] <geekphreak> bastid_raZor: morning
[14:21] <bastid_raZor> geekphreak: morning
[14:21] <gf0710020216> thank you!
[14:21] <csaba> no, thank you
[14:21] <iceroot> csaba: Guest8535 skype is in the repos
[14:21] <Guest8535> thanks for the skype help
[14:22] <csaba> iceroot, really?
[14:22] <iceroot> csaba: sure
[14:22] <csaba> ah, progress
[14:22] <iceroot> csaba: canocial/partner-repo
[14:22] <gf0710020216> oh,the help docs are english,but my poor english
 your english is ok ,
[14:23] <gf0710020216> so many softwares or projects are not chinese
[14:23] <csaba> gf0710020216, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=english+lessons
[14:23] <Pici> !ot
[14:23] <koltroll> gf0710020216, quite an eyeopener ain't it :)
[14:23] <littlepenguin> !chroot
[14:23] <da65> !liferay
 you should go into the #zh channel
[14:24] <da65> anyone know is Liferay is in the repos?
[14:24] <bazhang> da65, liferea?
[14:24] <gf0710020216> in #zh i can't improve my english
[14:25] <bazhang> gf0710020216, this is not the channel for that
[14:25] <da65> open source portal software
[14:25] <bazhang> gf0710020216, try ##english or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:25] <Koori> Hello there. Nice to meet you all. I am new with ubuntu and now doing with a problem. After NVIDIA X Server Settings applied display settings, it need to write information to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. But it have no premission to do with that. What shold i do?
[14:25] <gf0710020216> ok
 we don't teach english
[14:26] <erUSUL> Koori: launch the program with gksudo. alt + f2 run "gksudo nvidia-settings"
[14:26] <bastid_raZor> Koori: you need to run nvidia-settings with sudo.. : gksudo nvidia-settings
[14:26] <Koori> Ah thanks. I'll try
[14:28] <gf0710020216> i know,i want to study technology mainly with improving english;language isn't to learn,just be familar with it
[14:28] <eastbaynight> hey, so i have a logitech quickcam, and i was wondering if there's a way to control it/take pics on ubuntu?
[14:28] <eastbaynight> program i can use and such?
[14:28] <Emad> hi
[14:28] <bazhang> eastbaynight, what about cheese
[14:28] <Emad> can i ask
[14:28] <eastbaynight> cheese?
[14:29] <iceroot> !ask | Emad
[14:29] <Koori> Oops... It still tell me "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!"
 it's ok . but you can reference some wikis and other stuff on computer
[14:29] <iceroot> eastbaynight: its a webcam program
[14:29] <Emad> !ask
[14:29] <eastbaynight> okay cool
[14:29] <ascheel> Anybody that can help me troubleshoot why apache2 and mysql aren't starting at boot-up?  They both have links in /etc/rc6.d and both can start up if I kick them off manually using: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start  (or mysql instead of apache2)
[14:30] <eastbaynight> thanks!
[14:30] <tachiro> hmm, i need to install a file through terminal, but i feel like i'm missing something in the command line,  i'm in the right directory. how would i type that out properly?
[14:31] <mrp> ERROR: problem running ufw-init
[14:31] <ascheel> tachiro: to install what?
[14:31] <mrp> how can i fix this?
[14:31] <tachiro> a printer driver
[14:31] <tachiro> z600 lexmark
[14:31] <ascheel> what does it tell you to run and what are you running?
[14:31] <scunizi> tachiro: good luck with that one.
[14:31] <ascheel> and why do you think you need drivers?  Cups can handle most printers just fine
[14:31] <tachiro> ehh
[14:31] <Ddorda> Im looking for a dock that I can run without compiz or OpenGL, is there such a thing?
[14:31] <tachiro> apparently not lexmark
[14:32] <ascheel> tachiro, is it a laser printer?
[14:32] <csaba> tachiro: yes you can run lexmark, they made a new driver a few weeks ago
[14:32] <csaba> tachiro: I think you can download it from their website
[14:32] <tachiro> ascheel: not sure what you're asking but i'm on karmic koala if that matters, and no it's an inkjet AIO
[14:32] <tachiro> x1290
[14:32] <h00k> tachiro: you can try http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting for more linux printing information, too
[14:33] <csaba> tachiro: go to lexmark's website
[14:33] <Pici> zork
[14:33] <Pici> er, wrong tab ;)
[14:33] <h00k> Pici: :)
[14:33] <Emad> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/emad/.kickservices': File exists
[14:33] <Emad> any help
[14:33] <sipior> Pici: open mailbox. get leaflet. read leaflet...
[14:34] <tachiro> yea i went to the site, apparently there's this basic file they say will work with my printer
[14:34] <csaba> Emad: rm -rf /
[14:34] <tachiro> to atlast get it to print
[14:34] <tachiro> atleast*
[14:34] <Pici> !danger | Emad csaba
[14:34] <csaba> curse you meddling kids!
[14:34] <h00k> Emad: mkdir makes a folder, it looks like you're trying to make a folder that has the same name of a file that's already there
[14:34] <tachiro> hook: ok i'm bookmarking that anyway
[14:35] <Emad> but i can not do it
[14:35] <tachiro> csaba whoa last week?
[14:35] <tachiro> well i went there sorta last week but i'm not sure if i scoured it that much
[14:35] <tachiro> CRAP he missed all that
[14:35] <tachiro> pardon the repeat
[14:36] <tachiro> csaba whoa you said they put out a new driver last week?
[14:36] <csaba> yes
[14:36] <tachiro> for?
[14:36] <tachiro> like AIOs?
[14:36] <csaba> I have lexmark x3400 i think
[14:36] <scunizi> Emad: did you already have kickservices installed and you're trying to reinstall?  you can rename the directory and try agian.. mv /home/emad/.kickservices /home/emad/.kickservices-backup
[14:36] <tachiro> interesting
[14:36] <csaba> has a scanner, printer etc.
[14:36] <Kartagis> hello
[14:36] <Kartagis> http://suigeneris.pastebin.com/xryBbJ9V <--- is this a bug?
[14:36] <ascheel> Anybody able to help me figure out why apache2 and mysql aren't starting at boot-up?  They both have links in /etc/rc6.d and both can start up if I kick them off manually using: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start  (or mysql instead of apache2)
[14:36] <tachiro> uhhh so you think the driver is like, and "x series" thing or did it come out for just your model
[14:37] <tachiro> wish i still had my dualscreen, multitasking googling this would be so easy
[14:37] <csaba> tachiro: I think it was like for all xmark multifunctional printers... I found it on some forum two weeks ago, and it's a restricted driver at the moment
[14:37] <csaba> but it's made by lexmark
[14:37] <csaba> has a pretty installation wizard
[14:37] <greenymonkey> I need some major help with WoW
[14:37] <geekphreak> ascheel: hello , can you open terminal plz
[14:38] <jan247> hi guys. i just installed phpmyadmin on apache2 and it works fine. how do i hide '/phpmyadmin' though? I wish to set-up a single virtualhost that exposes it..
[14:38] <ascheel> geekphreak, already open.
[14:38] <Pici> geekphreak: #winehq would be the more appropriate place to ask
[14:38] <greenymonkey> Does anyone know anything on error 132
[14:38] <geekphreak> Pici:  ecuse me?
[14:38] <h00k> greenymonkey: Check wine's appdb, are you familiar?
[14:38] <geekphreak> excuse*
[14:38] <tachiro> csaba ok i'm going to the site but, by any chance do you have that link to the forum where you found it
[14:38] <greenymonkey> h00k no
[14:38] <Pici> geekphreak: clearly mistabbed ;)
[14:38] <ascheel> Pici: that was meant for greenymonkey and not geekphreak
[14:38] <csaba> tachiro: maybe I have it locally, just a sec
[14:38] <tachiro> sure
[14:38] <h00k> ubottu: tell greenymonkey about appdb
[14:38] <geekphreak> ascheel: type sudo apt-get install rcconf
[14:39] <ascheel> rcconf is already installed and shows apache2 and mysql enabled
[14:39] <geekphreak> Pici: yep i know , fun pulling your leg for a change :)
[14:39] <ascheel> geekphreak: correction.  apache2 isn't listed, but mysql is
[14:40] <geekphreak> ascheel: when it is installed sudo rcconf , are they both chked?
[14:40] <greenymonkey> h00k: I've tried looking every where on the internet but it seems like the error is common but no one has a clue what to do
[14:40] <Ddorda> Im looking for a dock that I can run without compiz or OpenGL, is there such a thing?
[14:41] <bastid_raZor> Ddorda: cairo-dock can run without openGL
[14:41] <scunizi> ascheel: you could "sudo tasksel" and reinstall or install LAMP (most of which you already have) but it might set up the deamon correctly to start on boot.
[14:41] <ZykoticK9> Ddorda, never used it myself but check out simdock
[14:41] <ascheel> scunizi: could I do an apt-get install --reinstall on it?
[14:42] <greenymonkey> Does anyone else know anything about error 132
[14:42] <littlepenguin> greeny in what consens?
[14:42] <greenymonkey> relating to wow
[14:42] <scunizi> ascheel: probably but sudo tasksel prompt you with a menu and then runs apt-get and other scripts to install what you want on the server.
[14:42] <littlepenguin> wow...stop wasting timwe
[14:42] <littlepenguin> time
[14:42] <greenymonkey> ?
[14:42] <littlepenguin> just a joke
[14:42] <greenymonkey> :p
[14:42] <Pici> greenymonkey: #winehq would be the more appropriate place to ask
[14:42] <littlepenguin> greeny did you ask wow support??
[14:43] <greenymonkey> little, i haven't asked wow support
[14:43] <greenymonkey> little; but I have checked winehq i've checked wowwiki i've checked everywhere
[14:44] <Ddorda> ZykoticK9: I will try. thanks
[14:44] <greenymonkey> pici; is there another channel on Xchat where I can speak to WoW or winehq
[14:44] <ZykoticK9> greenymonkey, in the comments section there are some 132 errors http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17421
[14:44] <csaba> tachiro, sorry can't find it
[14:44] <Beyecixramd> wheere can i buy ubuntu-branded cds? (with the Ubuntu image written in them, obviously) i mean, i can't order any more CDs on ubuntu shipit because i already ordered Jaunty and Karmic, so they don't allow me to do that
[14:44] <tachiro> lol drats!
[14:44] <Pici> greenymonkey: #winehq is the channel on freenode (the irc network you're on now). /join #winehq
[14:44] <ZykoticK9> greenymonkey, are you passing -opengl
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> greenymonkey:  you mean other then the #winehq channel?
[14:44] <tachiro> ok well i'll keeps scouring the site
[14:44] <littlepenguin> @greeny error 132 has sthg to do with ram issues
[14:45] <tachiro> but thanks for looking
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> WoW has so many pages and forum threads on the WineHQ web site. its scary
[14:45] <csaba> maybe search for lexmark ubuntu 9.10 on google, I'm not sure how I found it
[14:45] <Pici> Beyecixramd: http://store.canonical.com
[14:45] <tachiro> hmm
[14:45] <tachiro> ok
[14:45] <greenymonkey> zykotick9 ye i've tried with -opengl and without
[14:46] <Beyecixramd> thanks Pici
[14:46] <greenymonkey> i've joined the other channel now, thanks for you help ^^
[14:46] <ZykoticK9> greenymonkey, i've NEVER played WOW, but i know the -opengl is REQUIRED on linux
[14:46] <bsky_> hello
[14:47] <littlepenguin> hi bsky
[14:48] <yatesie> hi, why does 9.10 start with wireless disabled? how do i stop it from being disabled on startup?
[14:49] <dekroning> i want to add some pointer device to my Xorg config, however i don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, how can i add my config, or rather where ?
[14:50] <yatesie> dekroning: there are other places that duplicates of xorg.conf can be and will be looked for
[14:50] <fosco_> dekroning: generate a new xorg.conf with X - configure :1
[14:50] <littlepenguin> dekron or look in your fav search engione for examples
[14:50] <fosco_> modify it to feet your needings and move it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:50] <dekroning> fosco_: well i tried that, but with the configratuion   X -configure   generates my X doesn't wont to start
[14:50] <ascheel> scunizi, reinstall of LAMP, still not starting at boot-up.
[14:51] <csaba> tachiro, found it! it's for x3650 but maybe it works for you too: http://support.lexmark.com/index?page=content&productCode=LEXMARK_X3650&actp=PRODUCT&id=DR20523&segment=DOWNLOAD&userlocale=EN_US&locale=en
[14:51] <scunizi> ascheel: and you actually rebooted?
[14:51] <fosco_> fit*
[14:51] <tachiro> HAH!
[14:51] <tachiro> yeaaaaa
[14:51] <ascheel> geekphreak: no 'apache2' listed in rcconf
[14:51] <ascheel> scunizi, full reboot yes.
[14:51] <dekroning> fosco_: so i'm really curious which config settings Ubuntu uses for it's default xorg.conf
[14:52] <geekphreak> ascheel: using LAMP?
[14:52] <tachiro> csaba ok i try it out
[14:52] <tachiro> thanks
[14:52] <fosco_> dekroning: everything is autodetected
[14:52] <tachiro> again*
[14:52] <ascheel> geekphreak, just manuall installation of mysql, apache2, and php, but yes it's LAMP for all intents and purposes
[14:52] <csaba> no problem
[14:52] <ascheel> s/manuall/manual
[14:52] <dekroning> fosco_: but X -configure  is also autodetected right?
[14:52] <Reckon> hello everybody
[14:52] <fosco_> yes
[14:52] <fosco_> should be the same
[14:52] <dekroning> fosco_: them i'm confused why running that config doesn't work
[14:53] <fosco_> read the X logs to find out what's the problem
[14:53] <fosco_> grep EE /var/log/X*log
[14:54] <scunizi> ascheel: so when you reinstalled did you do it manually or use tasksel as suggested?
[14:54] <ascheel> scunizi: tasksel
[14:54] <dekroning> fosco_: doesn't have any EE  (excpet for some false positives like    MIT-SCREEN-SAVER and the default banner explaining (EE) error)
[14:54] <ascheel> no errors showed up.  At least not to stdout or stderr.
[14:56] <scunizi> ascheel: did you look at dmesg?
[14:56] <ascheel> scunizi: doing that now
[14:56] <Danielpk> Guys, how i can check who is using port 9418?
[14:56] <kermit> how do i pass mount options when mounting root?
[14:56] <ascheel> scunizi: that's odd.  Neither mysql or apache exist in apache.
[14:56] <erUSUL> Danielpk: sudo lsof -i :9418
[14:57] <ascheel> scunizi: it's not even trying to open it
[14:57] <Danielpk> thx
[14:57]  * ayam_jago brb cari rokok
[14:57] <scunizi> ascheel: is this on 9.10?
[14:57] <ascheel> scunizi: sorry I can't type for crap today.  Neither mysql nor apache exist in dmesg*
[14:57] <ascheel> scunizi: yes, 9.10
[14:57] <ascheel> :q
[14:57] <ascheel> wrong window, sorry
[14:58] <scunizi> ascheel: desktop install or server?
[14:58] <ascheel> scunizi: desktop
[15:00] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[15:00] <ruby_on_tails> I want to make some text snippets which I can control via shortcuts
[15:00] <ruby_on_tails> so if I have a text editor open or a form in a browser when I press the hotkey the text should be typed
[15:01] <skrite99> how can i get a cron job to run as a normal user? OR how can i get logrotate to run as a normal user
[15:01] <Carlis> who can help me ?
[15:01] <Pici> !ask | Carlis
[15:01] <ascheel> skrite99: just do 'crontab -e' from your user, don't use sudo
[15:01] <Pici> skrite99: Modify that user's crontab?
[15:01] <chripher> avelldiroll: will you test the subversion guide until tomorrow?
[15:01] <ruby_on_tails> is it possible to do this ?
[15:01] <Carlis> ok
[15:02] <ZykoticK9> skrite99, are you sure logrotate doesn't require elevated privileges?
[15:02] <skrite99> ascheel, Pici  ok, easy enough, thanks
[15:02] <scunizi> ascheel: this is weird.. I've installed and run apache2 on 9.10 without any issues.. shot in the dark.. uninstall tasksel lamp package then check synaptic and look for what might be remaining for mysql and apache.. remove.. restart or restart gdm then back to tasksel to reinstall the lamp option
[15:02] <michael_> hi i amnew to ubuntu i an i just installed it on my laptop i updated the hardware and everything and the wireless internet was working until i closed my laptop now the wireless thing says its disconnected and no longer displays the available networks is there any one who can help me pls
[15:02] <avelldiroll> chripher, I told you ... if I got time this evening (i am in europe ...)
[15:02] <ibm> salve al mondo di ubuntu
[15:02] <skrite99> ZykoticK9, not sure, just when it runs, another process i have looses permission to write to the logs
[15:02] <ascheel> scunizi: you got it
[15:02] <sipior> ruby_on_tails: tricky. if you use vim, the snipMate plugin will do this handily. doing this for *all* input, though, i'd have to think about...
[15:03] <ascheel> scunizi: I'm at a loss, too!  :)
[15:03] <fosco_> !it | ibm
[15:03] <helo> is there a package that contains the ubuntu installer to install on other media?
[15:03] <gmatt> is there a distro of ubuntu that is straight up openbox with all of the same drivers and such as the regular gnome version?
[15:03] <scunizi> ascheel: run server in a vbox vm :)
[15:03] <michael_>  hi i amnew to ubuntu i an i just installed it on my laptop i updated the hardware and everything and the wireless internet was working until i closed my laptop now the wireless thing says its disconnected and no longer displays the available networks is there any one who can help me pls
[15:03] <yatesie> michael_, i think it has disabled your wireless, right click on the icon that shows your networks and tick the 'enable wireless' box
[15:03] <ascheel> pfft
[15:03] <chripher> avelldiroll: I be at home then so I guess we can talk again tomorrow (I do not have access to work from home)
[15:03] <fosco_> gmatt: try lubuntu
[15:03] <michael_> its enabled
[15:03] <gmatt> thanks fosco_
[15:04] <ruby_on_tails> sipior: ok, browser specific snippets controlled by keyboard ?
[15:04] <Carlis> ok
[15:04] <sipior> ruby_on_tails: on the other hand, you could write a script which writes certain text to the clipboard, and call that script from your key shortcut. then you would just need to paste the text wherever.
[15:04] <Carlis> This is the sptep number 2:
[15:04] <Carlis> Step 2. Now we will need to install the. NET Framework in version 1 at least (preferably the version 1 and 2) besides the VisualBasic Runtimes. We will use a script which we obtain using wget in console:
[15:04] <yatesie> it's enabled and still not showing networks?
[15:04] <michael_> correct
[15:04] <ruby_on_tails> sipior: that would be cool, how can I do that ?
[15:05] <yatesie> signal?
[15:05] <yatesie> noise?
[15:05] <sipior> ruby_on_tails: have a look at "xclip"
[15:05] <ruby_on_tails> sipior: ok, thanks
[15:05] <Carlis> wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks
[15:05] <geekphreak> michael_: did you install wicd by any chance?
[15:05] <Carlis> It´s going to open the content of it
[15:05] <Carlis> but I don´t what do i have to do there
[15:06] <michael_> i dont knwo what wicd is
[15:06] <Carlis> but I don´t know what I have to do there
[15:06] <ascheel> scunizi: doing a purge on all of the apps in question.  Then I'll reinstall
[15:06] <Beyecixramd> how can i become part of the ubuntu artwork team?
[15:06] <Beyecixramd> there's an IRC channel somewhere, but i don't remember the room...
[15:07] <h00k> Beyecixramd: you might find some information on their wiki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork
[15:07] <Beyecixramd> thanks h00k
[15:07] <michael_> and yatesie i  have it enabled but its not shoing any wireless networks available
[15:07] <prrawlins> testing
[15:08] <h00k> Beyecixramd: it looks like they have a mailing list yuou can get involved with, and #ubuntu-artwork
[15:08] <michael_> earlier it started showing networks available bu the ssids that were appearing were jibberish
[15:08] <Beyecixramd> i'm not really interested in mailing lists, h00k, but thanks for the info :)
[15:08] <ruby_on_tails> sipior: after I install xclip I need to restart something ?
[15:09] <ruby_on_tails> doesn't seem to work ? ls | xclip
[15:09] <h00k> Beyecixramd: that's where a lot of discussion happens on things, probably, so consider it
[15:09] <ascheel> scunizi: full removal done on apache2 and mysql.  Rebooting now.
[15:10] <geekphreak> michael_: did you do an update on system and which version of ubuntu is it?
[15:10] <michael_> i updated it
[15:10] <scunizi> ascheel: quick question.. did you manually install init?
[15:10] <Beyecixramd> h00k: the problem is that i don't get the same feeling, i probably don't know how's the way to work on a mailing list, anyway
[15:10] <michael_> how do i check the version
[15:10] <ascheel> scunizi: did not manually install init
[15:11] <h00k> Beyecixramd: well, check it out, ask in the channel what's the best way to keep in contact, etc
[15:11] <scunizi> ascheel: ok.. I'm still catching up on some of the changes in the backend in the last couple releases.. the machine I'm on now is 8.04 and my desktop is 9.10
[15:11] <Beyecixramd> i'll do that, h00k
[15:12] <switch10_> michael_: ubuntu version?  lsb_release -a
[15:12] <michael_> switch10_ how do i check which version i have im like super new to this
[15:12] <scunizi> ascheel: not sure what they are doing with init.. but restarting, activating, stopping seems to be accomplished with "sudo service <service> <command>"
[15:12] <ascheel> no worries, scunizi.  I run 9.10 server on a home PC and it seems to be ok.
[15:12] <switch10_> michael_: open a terminal and type:  lsb_release -a
[15:12] <ascheel> scunizi: let's see what I get after this reinstall
[15:13] <scunizi> ascheel: how are you with samba?
[15:13] <ascheel> scunizi: pretty decent.  It's up and running just fine
[15:13] <michael_> 9.10
[15:14] <ascheel> I don't do anything fancy with it, but I know how to work with it
[15:14] <geekphreak> michael_:  ok,
[15:15] <bahaa2008> hey guys
[15:15] <geekphreak> michael_: when did this problem start happening?
[15:15] <bahaa2008> i have problems with sound
[15:15] <bahaa2008> i can't hear any sound
[15:15] <h00k> !sound | bahaa2008
[15:15] <geekphreak> michael_: was it after the updates, did system shutdown or freeze during update?
[15:15] <bahaa2008> but everything seems to work
[15:15] <scunizi> ascheel: I've got a directory on a secondary drive shared on my home Lan.. my wife and I can read and write to it.. however any new directories or files created on the share belong to the user creating them.. they can be viewed/read but not changed.. I want full 100% access for both of us (unauthenticated)..
[15:15] <bahaa2008> using ubuntu 9.10
[15:15] <michael_> after i put my claptop to sleep and it woke back up it and it was no longer working
[15:16] <bahaa2008> tested alsamixer thing
[15:16] <the_real_dave> scunizi: What protoclo are you sharing with?
[15:16] <ascheel> scunizi: no problem, gimme a min.
[15:16] <geekphreak> michael_: ok can you open terminal for me plz?
[15:16] <scunizi> the_real_dave: using samba/cifs
[15:16] <gabriel_> ubuntu remix netbook 9.10 was installed with windows xp. is there a way to make ubuntu the default system to load and is it possible to make the ubuntu partition bigger without reinstalling?
[15:16] <thefedorabug> I am currently using Ubuntu
[15:16] <michael_> ok its open
[15:16] <thefedorabug> Jaunty Jackelope
[15:16] <scunizi> ascheel: my wifes machine is xp/home :(
[15:17] <thefedorabug> I connect to the internet using wvdial
[15:17] <thefedorabug> but the same setup wont work in fedora
[15:17] <thefedorabug> dont know why
[15:17] <ascheel> scunizi: no problem at all.  I share to my laptop from windows all the time.  You want UNauthenticated, right?
[15:17] <om26er> When I insert a tp-link wn something and start the computer the system does not boot. after splash screen nothing. the same system is booting without a problem with that wireless card
[15:17] <thefedorabug> wvdial connects
[15:17] <h00k> gabriel_: you can resize the partition from a liveUSB
[15:17] <thefedorabug> but cant browse the web
[15:17] <the_real_dave> scunizi: This link might help http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html
[15:17] <thefedorabug> h00k, hello
[15:17] <h00k> !enter | thefedorabug
[15:17] <scunizi> ascheel: yes.. but only the one main folder
[15:17] <om26er> *on windows xp
[15:17] <ascheel> scunizi: no problem at all.  stand by
[15:17] <h00k> thefedorabug: hello
[15:17] <scunizi> ascheel: and any folders inside
[15:17] <gabriel_> h00k, is it possible with a live cd?
[15:18] <ascheel> scunizi: getting you a pastebin
[15:18] <h00k> gabriel_: to resize the partition, yes
[15:18] <thefedorabug> I am using Jaunty Jackelope now and use Wvdial to connect to internet, but the same setup dont allow me to browse the web on Fedora
[15:18] <thefedorabug> h00k,  I am using Jaunty Jackelope now and use Wvdial to connect to internet, but the same setup dont allow me to browse the web on Fedora
[15:18] <geekphreak> michael_: 1 sec please
[15:18] <scunizi> the_real_dave: thanks for the link.. that's an authenticated share though..
[15:18] <gabriel_> h00k, do i need to start setup? or???
[15:18] <scunizi> ascheel: thanks
[15:18] <fortunev> Hi all. Is there a way to remotely view /dev/fb via ssh. Not trying to view an X dispaly. Just the framebuffer.
[15:19] <michael_> geekphreak: is there a way to private chat cause this is mad connfusing
[15:19] <solotim> Hi, I found that the memory in use reported by 'top' and 'System Monitor' is different, can anyone tell me why?
 I got 256 total memory, 'top' says 231160k is in use, but 'System Monitor' says 139.5M is in use.
[15:19] <gabriel_> h00k, about making it the default system to load?
[15:19] <h00k> gabriel_: you can do it from the "try ubuntu without installing"
[15:19] <gabriel_> h00k, got it...
[15:19] <ascheel> scunizi: you may want to consider changing the create mask:  http://pastebin.com/YRKt381K
[15:19] <Pici> solotim: Look at the output of  free -m  specifically, what is being used +/- buffers/cache
[15:20] <gabriel_> h00k, got it... (but is it possible from within the installed netbook 9.10?
[15:20] <ascheel> scunizi: however, all 3 shares on this particular PC are open to the public.  It should be self-explanatory locking some down to specific users and require authentication.  The [stuff] share in particular is what you need to pay attention to
[15:21] <solotim> Pici: thank you
[15:21] <ascheel> scunizi: shouldn't even require a service restart (but one wouldn't hurt!)
[15:21] <scunizi> ascheel: nice.. give me a minute to look it over. should I just eliminate the "create mask" or change it to "something" else..?
[15:21] <the_real_dave> scunizi: The same will work with an open share.
[15:21] <the_real_dave> scunizi: Or does create mask not help?
[15:22] <ascheel> scunizi: leaving it there is fine, but I would recommend 666 so you can modify it directly on the server PC without needing 'sudo'
[15:22] <scunizi> ascheel: it's actually a share off my desktop as opposed to a seperate box
[15:22] <the_real_dave> scunizi: You could always write a script to change the permissions, and get cron to execute it every 5 minutes or so. I use that crude but effective method on my server
[15:23] <scunizi> the_real_dave: true.. but not exactly the most elegant way of accomplishing it.
[15:23] <the_real_dave> scunizi: Like I said, it's crude but effective
[15:24] <ascheel> scunizi: better to have a create mask set.  If you're giving them full read-write anyhow, then just set it to 0666 and forget about it
[15:24] <bahaa2008> h00k, thanks
[15:24] <bahaa2008> h00k, front speaker was mutted :( what a shame :)
[15:25] <miZ--> SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length.(Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
[15:25] <miZ--> any idea why :/
[15:25] <miZ--> everything seems fine
[15:25] <the_real_dave> scunizi: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/418627/ would do the trick, giving full access. Give me two secs for a cron entry
[15:25] <aman> can anyone help me with a little of "netstat -rn"????
[15:26] <ikonia> aman: in what way ?
[15:26] <helo> uhh... that's recursive with line numbers right?
[15:26] <scunizi> ascheel: so the section in "stuff" is pretty much all I need? looks too easy.. my config had guest ok, read only, writeable & browseable as you have set it.. I didn't have public = yes or comment
[15:26] <jo__> where would i find updated drivers for intel video cards that work nicely with ubuntu 9.10?
[15:26] <ikonia> helo: no, that's a routing tables resolved to names
[15:26] <ascheel> scunizi: you might need some of the [global] vars.  Checking now
[15:26] <aman> ikonia: i have a question in which i have to find out problm in network but i dont know wat the problm in it....:(
[15:26] <helo> heh
[15:27] <scunizi> ascheel: that's what I was wondering.
[15:27] <the_real_dave> scunizi: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/418630/
[15:27] <ikonia> aman: so what has that got to do with netstat -rn ?
[15:27] <scunizi> the_real_dave: thanks
[15:27] <aman> ikonia: please have a look at it http://img208.imageshack.us/i/ques3.png/
[15:27] <ascheel> scunizi: you need the public and guest options.  Probably good to do the 'read only' and 'writeable' as I have them set as well.  In Global, get these settings:  guest account, security, create mask
[15:27] <the_real_dave> scunizi: Not the most elegant way, but effective :)
[15:28] <ikonia> aman: we are not here to help you with tests, this is ubuntu support only
[15:28] <aman> ikonia: its a ques in ubuntu book only....:)
[15:28] <ascheel> scunizi: better yet, you can move that 'create mask' piece right to the [stuff] share so it's not a global setting
[15:28] <fasta> # mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windisk/ => Segmentation fault.
[15:28] <jo__> where would i find updated drivers for intel video cards that work nicely with ubuntu 9.10?
[15:29] <ikonia> aman: so ?
[15:29] <fasta> Is that a known issue?
[15:29] <ikonia> aman: this is ubuntu support - not test help
[15:29] <ascheel> scunizi: a global 'create mask' of 0666 is a bad idea.  Restricting it to a single share is just fine.
[15:29] <h00k> gabriel_: not when it's running, no
[15:29] <scunizi> ascheel: security I don't have in my global.. I did try "inherit permissions" once.. to no effect.  Wwhat does the create mask do again?
[15:29] <aman> ikonia, ok dude no problm dont be angry ....:)
[15:29] <gabriel_> h00k, thanks m8
[15:29] <ascheel> scunizi: create mask.  When a user uploads a file that doesn't exist, it creates it with that mask for permissions.  0666 = rw, rw, rw
[15:31] <scunizi> ascheel: got it.. 666 as opposed to 777 eliminating the exec. bit.. don't you have to combine that with a user mask too? or as an open share there's no need for that?
[15:31] <jo__> where would i find updated drivers for intel video cards that work nicely with ubuntu 9.10?
[15:31] <ascheel> scunizi: no need to do that with an open share like that.
[15:32] <ascheel> scunizi: it will create the files as the user 'nobody' so keep that in mind.
[15:32] <ascheel> So you can change the 'nobody' in the smb.conf to be another user on the system if you really want to.  I just leave it as that.
[15:32] <scunizi> ascheel: I've been hunting for these answers for a week.. samba book, online samba site, google, here.. you're the first to offer solid answers.. Thanks!
[15:33] <ascheel> lol no problem, my friend.  Took me a few days to get it all sorted out, too.
[15:33] <scunizi> ascheel: even as the user "nobody" for files.. I should still be able to delete, read write create etc..
[15:33] <AdvoWork> Hi there, got a machine, just installed ubuntu, its not picking up my monitor, so its set to 800x600. any suggestions please? its a samsung monitor
[15:34] <scunizi> AdvoWork: what kind of video card do you have?
[15:34] <AdvoWork> scunizi, onboard
[15:34] <ascheel> scunizi: absolutely you can
[15:34] <scunizi> AdvoWork: onboard *what*
[15:34] <scunizi> ascheel: apache up and running?
[15:35] <ascheel> scunizi: lol dunno.  need to do a test reboot
[15:37] <ascheel> scunizi: that smb.conf example work ok for you?  Had time to test it, I mean?
[15:38] <scunizi> ascheel: not yet.. the other machine is in the back office of the house next to the master BR.. wife is still sleeping. I couldn't sleep after 4:30 this morning for some reason.
[15:38] <ascheel> scunizi: apache2 is starting at boot, but not mysql.  Checking for rc2.d scripts.
[15:39] <ascheel> scunizi: nothing in rc2.d
[15:39] <scunizi> ascheel: when you installed did the process ask to setup passwords for mysql?
[15:39] <ascheel> scunizi: no it didn't, but I already had them set up from before
[15:39] <scunizi> ascheel: on the initial install?
[15:40] <scunizi> ascheel: of mysql that is..
[15:40] <AdvoWork> scunizi, onboard as in, graphics are on the motherboard, i dont know really
[15:40] <milo1> is it possible to update 8.04 directly to 9.10 version using a CD?
[15:40] <scunizi> AdvoWork: you need to find out what they are exactly.. in a terminal you can type lspci to find out or sudo lshw
[15:41] <Oer> lspci | grep -i vga
[15:42] <ascheel> scunizi: added the link /etc/init.d/mysql -> /etc/rc2.d/S91mysql
[15:42] <Pici> milo1: No. You can only upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 OR to 10.04 when it is released.
[15:42] <ascheel> it didn't exist
[15:42] <ascheel> checking results now
[15:42] <scunizi> ascheel: brb.. wife got up and want's me to cut cheese for a meeting she's going to
[15:42] <ascheel> word
[15:42] <ascheel> she WANTS you to cut the cheese?  That's a keeper
[15:43] <csaba> hurry up before she gets mad
[15:43] <ascheel> scunizi: k, it's good to go.  The script previously was K09 and that's the only difference...  with it being S91, it's good to go.  That's the only difference I can see
[15:44] <milo1> Pici: aha, so it can be updatet to 10.04. is that an option that wasn't available with previous releases? (i mean to skip versions in between)
[15:44] <AdvoWork> scunizi, would it be vga compatible controller: s3 inch. Prosavage KM133>
[15:44] <Pici> milo1: You'll always be able to upgrade directly from one LTS to the next LTS.
[15:44] <xamox> is the final freeze ISO available?
[15:45] <Pici> xamox : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[15:45] <milo1> thanx, Pici
[15:45] <xamox> Pici, thanks.
[15:48] <AdvoWork> scunizi, any suggestions?
[15:50] <disappearedng_> mysql will not auto start what do I do?
[15:51] <idlemind> anyone that can offer some direction on compiling evolution from source on ubuntu. i've read the gnome specific documents on compiling there modules i just want to see if there is some tips and tricks ppl know for ubuntu
[15:51] <ascheel> disappearedng_: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*mysql*
[15:53] <scunizi> ascheel: glas to hear it's working.. not sure what k09 vs s91 is though.. bit beyond my experience level.
[15:53] <ascheel> same, scunizi.  It's working, so I don't give a fart.
[15:53] <disappearedng_> ascheel: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/203633/
[15:54] <disappearedng_> I have to run /etc/init.d/mysql start every time I rebooyt
[15:54] <ascheel> disappearedng_: I JUST NOW fixed a very similar issue.  This shouldn't affect it, but please rename S19mysql to S91mysql
[15:55] <scunizi> AdvoWork: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=prosavage+km133+ubuntu
[15:56] <disappearedng_> what?
[15:56] <disappearedng_> S19mysql?
[15:56] <marekw2143> where in the ubuntu is the list of all users?
[15:56] <jshriver> greetings
[15:56] <jshriver> What is the command to start a wireless network connection? running 10 beta and since last update the network manager icon for my wireless is missing from the top toolbar
[15:57] <Pici> jshriver : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[15:57] <jshriver> ty
[15:57] <ascheel> disappearedng_: yes
[15:57] <disappearedng_> how do I test rather then rebooting ascheel
[15:58] <ascheel> disappearedng_: I dunno that you can.  *shrug*
[15:58] <disappearedng_> yeah rc.d requires you to restart
[15:59] <disappearedng_> well just restarting the kernel will do right?
[15:59] <disappearedng_> can I just log out and come back in ?
[15:59] <disappearedng_> will that do the same?
[15:59] <sipher> I just did an upgrade to ubuntu 10.04
[15:59] <sipher> grub failed to install
[15:59] <sipher> can't boot
[15:59] <AdvoWork> scunizi, tried that ages ago, nothing about actually installing it.
[15:59] <Pici> sipher : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[15:59] <sipher> thanks
[16:00] <HYSE> hi im new to ubuntu and i need help with my wireless
[16:00] <industrial> Hello. I am having problems installing Wubi on this Dell Vostro laptop. When I reboot and select ubuntu I get only a black screen after the disk image loads. I have tried the other option with lesser graphics (cant recall the exact name) but that yields the same.
[16:03] <scunizi> AdvoWork: S3's are a pain.. and I've never done it.. at best they seem to be hit and miss.. do you have a pci/pcie/agp port on your motherboard you could add a different card too?
[16:04] <Jerry_yuleibest> hello everyone.
[16:05] <Jerry_yuleibest> No one?
[16:06] <sipior> Jerry_yuleibest: it would be impractical if a thousand people were to wave back at you :-)
[16:06] <scunizi> Jerry_yuleibest: you want 1200+ people to say hello?
[16:06] <ascheel> !hi | Jerry_yuleibest
[16:06] <solotim> hi, group , I found my root '/' has only 110M left, what should I do?
[16:06] <Jerry_yuleibest> sorry, it's my 1st time to be here. so just verify whether i'm valid with this channel.
[16:07] <ascheel> No, you're an invalid with this channel until you ask a question.
[16:07] <scunizi> Jerry_yuleibest: no problem.. you're here.. protocol is to just ask your question and if someone knows the answer they will pipe up
[16:07] <ascheel> solotim: I would delete something.
[16:08] <switch10_> solotim: how big is your hdd/root partition?
[16:08] <ilembitov> Hi, all. Is there a way to make a bootable Ubuntu USB stick without Unetbootin? Via dd, for example?
[16:08] <Jerry_yuleibest> Actually i have a question on key binding on shell scripting.
[16:08] <h00k> ilembitov: if you have a .img, yes
[16:08] <solotim> swithch10: only 3.8G has been allocated for /
[16:08] <sipior> solotim: you might see if "sudo apt-get clean" doesn't free up a fait bit of space.
[16:08] <TomG> solotim: Have you tried runnning apt-get autoclean and apt-get autoremove?
[16:08] <root> hi
[16:08] <idlemind> anyone have advice or know of a guide on creating .deb packages?
[16:08] <scunizi> Jerry_yuleibest: be specific in your question.
[16:08] <TomG> sipior: You beat me
[16:08] <switch10_> solotim: I would boot from a live cd and grow that partition...
[16:09] <scunizi> !compile > idlemind
[16:09] <HYSE> can any one help me with a wireless network issue
[16:09] <Jerry_yuleibest> iI use Readline to bind keys, but when i repeatedly output texts, the keys i typed can not trigger corresponding commands.
[16:09] <HYSE> im new
[16:09] <HYSE> and dont knwo what im fdoign
[16:09] <idlemind> thanks for the link
[16:09] <solotim> sipior, TOmG: I have used autoremove but nothing changed, I'm going to use clean now
[16:10] <h00k> HYSE: sure, ask your question all on one line and someone will help if they know how.
[16:10] <scunizi> solotim: also check /var/log for large files
[16:10] <sipior> solotim: try "clean". autoremove and autoclean probably won't do much, depending on the age of your install.
[16:10] <industrial> Can I get some help here with the Wubi Ubuntu installer?
[16:10] <industrial> Hello. I am having problems installing Wubi on this Dell Vostro laptop. When I reboot and select ubuntu I get only a black screen after the disk image loads. I have tried the other option with lesser graphics (cant recall the exact name) but that yields the same.
[16:10] <ascheel> solotim: if possible, load the drive up on aonther computer and resize that / file system using gparted
[16:10] <sipior> solotim: i should read to the end of your setence, apologies :-)
[16:10] <HYSE> my wireless network keeps saying its disconnected
[16:10] <HYSE> but its not
[16:11] <HYSE> it wont display any available networks
[16:11] <HYSE> and it is neabled
[16:11] <solotim> sipior: no luck. only 10M freed.
[16:11] <Pici> !ener | HYSE
[16:11] <Pici> !enter | HYSE
[16:11] <sipior> solotim: anything in /tmp?
[16:11] <TomG> solotim: You're probably best off doing as ascheel said and changing the partition size.
[16:12] <switch10_> solotim: uninstall packages or grow your partition.  your only 2 feasible options..
[16:12] <solotim> ascheel: thanks, but no big file there
[16:12] <ayam_jago> !wubi | industrial
[16:12] <sipior> solotim: also, consider moving certain directories onto a larger partition, and point to them with symbolic links. /var is a good candidate for this sort of thing.
[16:12] <industrial> ayam_jago: thanks
[16:13] <ascheel> solotim: it's not a matter of big files, but it's not very difficult for an entire operating system to fill up 4 GB of space
[16:13] <HYSE> my wireless network keeps saying its disconnected im using 9.10 ive installed the hardware its not displaying the networks only the wired connection works
[16:13] <m_anish_away> Hi, Is there any way I can edit fla (flash source) files in ubuntu
[16:13] <sipior> HYSE: which card, exactly?
[16:13] <solotim> switch10_: I don't know how to decide which package is useless for me, what should I do ?
[16:14] <HYSE> i dont know how do i check
[16:14] <kraut> hi
[16:14] <switch10_> solotim: which ones dont you use?  uninstall it/them..
[16:14] <kraut>  is it possible to start the network-manager within gnome by hand?
[16:14] <androm> what's a good password management program for ubuntu?
[16:15] <switch10_> kraut: start it by hand??  you can use iwconfig/ifconfig instead of NM..
[16:15] <sipior> HYSE: there should be a hardware inspection tool on one of the gnome menus
[16:15] <kraut> switch10_: no, i need NM. i can't see it in my taskbar
[16:15] <nyanseik> i want to asked openoffice.org word processor
[16:15] <nyanseik> who can tell me
[16:15] <solotim> switch10_: there are a bunch of various package in xubuntu , I really don't know their dependency, all I have done is uninstalling gnumeric and abiword.
[16:15] <kraut> after `start network-manager`, i'll get this:
[16:15] <geekphreak> kraut: nm-applet
[16:15] <kraut> start: Job is already running: network-manager
[16:15] <disappearedng_> does anyone know what this mean? Could not find RubyGem rack (~> 1.0.1)
[16:16] <sipior> androm: keepassx is great.
[16:16] <kraut> geekphreak: that was easy, thanks^^
[16:16] <switch10_> kraut: right click>add to panel>add indicator applet
[16:16] <HYSE> hardwaredrivers?
[16:16] <nyanseik> i can't draw table
[16:16] <AdvoWork> scunizi, havent got another card, only a dev pc :s is there any way i can change something to just change the resolution to 1024x768 or something?
[16:16] <HYSE> it says broadcom b43 wireless router
[16:16] <geekphreak> kraut: :)
[16:16] <HYSE> i mean driver *
[16:16] <androm> sipior: thanks, will take a look into it
[16:17] <sipior> disappearedng_: try installing the "librack-ruby" package.
[16:17] <solotim> sipior: i like you idea. I know how to mount -o loop a file to some path, but what should I do to let xubuntu know when it startup
[16:17] <switch10_> solotim: growing your / partiton is not that hard..  and it will give you the best performance.
[16:17] <disappearedng_> ok cool
[16:17] <disappearedng_> sipior: doesn't work
[16:17] <nyanseik> hello
[16:18] <sipior> solotim: you don't need to play with mount at all. just ensure that you copy the contents of /var (say) precisely to a directory on a large partition. place a symbolic link at /var, pointing to the new directory.
[16:18] <sipior> disappearedng_: care to be more specific?
[16:18] <datacrusher> hello everyone. i got a hp notebook, and i have dual boot with ubuntu and windows xp. on xp i can use some software as dvio, virtualdub or even regular webcam software to use my sony handicam via firewire as a real time video device. On linux iv tryed kino and kdenlive, but i cant capture from my camera... is it possible?
[16:19] <nyanseik> I can't draw table while using openoffice.org word processor
[16:19] <solotim> sipior: good, any other directories I can do the same thing?
[16:19] <HYSE> sipior: broadcom b 43 wireless driver
[16:19] <nyanseik> tell me how to fuck that
[16:20] <TomG> datacrusher: Cheese usually works for me.
[16:20] <sipior> solotim: be careful with that. you don't want to move /boot, for example :-) /var and /tmp are easy.
[16:20] <Pici> nyanseik: Please mind your language here.
[16:20] <disappearedng_> sipior: I am trying to install an application called redmine which uses ror
[16:20] <sipior> nyanseik: also, consider making sense.
[16:20] <disappearedng_> sipior: somehow it's failing because of that
[16:20] <solotim> sipior: thanks, I check it now. :)
[16:21] <solotim> sipior: sorry , asking for 'du' option to check size of direcotry and it's children
[16:21] <sipior> disappearedng_: which ruby have you installed?
[16:21] <coba> iz it just me or are medibuntu repo servers fukt??
[16:22] <disappearedng_> sipior: how do I find out?
[16:22] <geekphreak> coba: watch language plz
[16:22] <TomG> coba: I heard last night they were temporarily down.
[16:22] <Pici> coba: Please mind your language here.  Yes, the medibuntu repositories  are having issues.
[16:22] <solotim> ok, i got it   du -s
[16:23] <coba> sry for the lang
[16:23] <sipior> disappearedng_: "ruby --version"
[16:23] <coba> thanks for the prompt responce tho
[16:23] <disappearedng_> ruby 1.8.7 (2009-06-12 patchlevel 174) [i486-linux]
[16:23] <bastid_raZor> coba: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html
[16:24] <geekphreak> bye all, goodnight folks
[16:24] <sipior> disappearedng_: try installing "librack-ruby1.8"
[16:24] <solotim> sipior: is /home safe to move to other partition?
[16:25] <coba> bastid_raZor: thanks
[16:25] <sipior> solotim: absolutely!
[16:25] <solotim> :)
[16:26] <disappearedng_> sipior: installed
[16:26] <solotim> sipior: what if another partition is fat32?
[16:26] <sipior> solotim: ick. i wouldn't.
[16:26] <bastid_raZor> coba: you're welcome.
[16:27] <sipior> solotim: it is technically possible, but permissions would be broken.
[16:27] <bogard> hahó
[16:27] <sipior> disappearedng_: same error?
[16:27] <solotim> sipior: thank you very much!
[16:27] <solotim> and thank every responser
[16:27] <sipior> solotim: no trouble. be careful with it and you should have no trouble.
[16:27] <disappearedng_> sipior: it was already installed all along
[16:27] <TomG> solotim: Make sure you link them correctly or you'll break your system.
[16:28] <solotim> TomG: ah, I shoud evaluate the risk now
[16:29] <TomG> solotim: Just don't want you to restart and find that it won't load / you can't login.
[16:29] <sipior> solotim: best to keep a terminal open, preferably after running "sudo -i" to get a root shell, until you verify that you can login again with your userid.
[16:29] <sipior> solotim: that way, if sudo gets upset, you can fix it.
[16:30] <solotim> sipior: it comes to my mind that I mannually mount my sda5(fat32) everytime after xubuntu startup. it seems that sda5 is not mounted automatically by system. Is this really ok if I move /home to /media/sda5/home and ln -s it?
[16:30] <TomG> solotim: You should add it to the fstab
[16:31] <Typh> is there a way to launch an app in another session? IE, I ssh in and launch a gui app in a session I know is already running
[16:31] <sipior> solotim: again, a fat32 partition is a poor choice. and yes, what TomG said :-)
[16:31] <Typh> I know I can ssh -X, but I don't want the app on my desktop, I want it on my desktop at home :)
[16:32] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> i have an ADSL2+ connection in my home with dynamically assigned ip. And my home PC ip is in the range of 192.168.1.2. Port forwarding to port 22 "SSH" is enabled. Can I ssh into this box from my work? Connection gets refused
[16:32] <daMull> Typh: vnc ?
[16:32] <Tim|Work> Typh, DISPLAY=:0 appname &
[16:32] <Tim|Work> send the app to a display
[16:32] <solotim> TomG, sipior: thanks, I'm considering converting that fat partition completely.
[16:32] <Tim|Work> sh4d3sl4y3r_, did you install / start ssh on the box ?
[16:32] <bastid_raZor> Typh: if from box 1 you want ssh to box 2 and have a GUI app run on box 2 then don't use ssh -X .. just start the app in the ssh session on box 2 and it will open on box 2. i do this all the time with ktorrent
[16:33] <sipior> solotim: you'll feel better, believe me :-)
[16:33] <idlemind> sh4d3sl4y3r_ you will need to tell your router to forward ssh to your machine
[16:33] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> idlemind: yes i NAT forwarded it already. and ssh is installed
[16:33] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> however connection gets refused
[16:33] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> though i have a dynamically assigned IP. i keep a note of the changed ips. and try to log in accordingly
[16:33] <idlemind> sh4d3sl4y3r_ you'll need to connect to your external ip not the 192.168.1.2 address
[16:33] <bastid_raZor> sh4d3sl4y3r_: openssh-server needs to be installed not just ssh
[16:33] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> idlemind : yes i did that
[16:34] <bastid_raZor> !shh | sh4d3sl4y3r_ follow this guide. it will help troubleshoot
[16:34] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ok
[16:34] <bastid_raZor> !ssh | sh4d3sl4y3r_
[16:34] <Typh> bastid_raZor: that doesn't make sense, why would it open on box 2?
[16:34] <solotim> sipior: :) OK, I will do as what said, but I need to move all data from the partition to my portable disk. time-consuming ah, I'll do the other day. Thank you again.
[16:34] <Typh> I get "cannot open display"
[16:34] <Pici> bastid_raZor: fyi, the ssh metapackage depends on both the client and the server.
[16:35] <bastid_raZor> Pici: ah, did not know just ssh would pull all the needed packages.
[16:36] <mxpxpod> I just upgraded my 9.10 install on an external hard drive to 10.04 and it wiped my MBR and grub won't boot windows... does anyone have any clues as to how to fix this?
[16:37] <litropy> hey peeps I have a problem with picasa for linux - is there a picasa- or google dev-specific chan?
[16:37] <aap> !10.04 | mxpxpod
[16:37] <bastid_raZor> Typh: appname & disown ...is the full syntax i use..
[16:37] <stevecam> is it possible to make things stay in my clipboard even when i close the program that i copied from
[16:37] <bep_> hello
[16:37] <Jerry_yuleibest> Hello, i'm binding a key to certain command, but when repeated text is being printed to shell terminal, the key being bound can not trigger corresponding command, how can i do?
[16:38] <litropy> see my issue at http://pastebin.com/11tyM1Md
[16:38] <bep_> just a question, what's the differnce between linux...-generec ...and linux...-headers ?
[16:38] <stevecam> bep_, headers are what other programs to use when compiling
[16:39] <bep_> so i needed to compile a new kernel, i installed the sources
[16:39] <bep_> so if i make a ln -s /usr/src/linux-sources linux everything should be fine?
[16:40] <sipior> bep_: best practise is to compile the linux source tree in a non-system directory, like your $HOME.
[16:40] <stevecam> yes
[16:40] <Kajper> witam
[16:40] <Typh> Tim|Work: that seems to work, but the process is still tied to my terminal session. I want to fully detach from it.
[16:40] <gregc> Is there a way to make it so that I can click through the notifications in Lucid?  I hate not being able to switch to my most recent tabs in Firefox just because I got an email or something.
[16:40] <Pici> gregc : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[16:40] <bep_> why should i do that?
[16:41] <Tim|Work> typh, 'exit' should let you detach ok
[16:41] <Tim|Work> if not, screen it first ?
[16:41] <gregc> Is there a way to click through notifications in Lucid?
[16:41] <bep_> don't i need to set a symlink ?
[16:41] <Kajper> SO??
[16:41] <gregc> oh, thanks Pici
[16:41] <gunksta> anyone know how to change the GDM theme via the command line.
[16:41] <Typh> Tim|Work: oh, weird. I didn't have a prompt, but exit still worked
[16:41] <Typh> thanks a lot.
[16:41] <Tim|Work> :)
[16:42] <Typh> note to self, configure transmission-daemon
[16:42] <stevecam> is there a way to let my computer do administrative tasks with just bringing up a dialog box asking if i want to do them instead of entering a password in all the time
[16:42] <Kajper> Help for ubuntu
[16:42] <ubulover> hi
[16:43] <drkje> hey, some could help me to set my sounds problems?
[16:43] <DarkSector> drkje: system sounds ?
[16:43] <sipior> bep_: some background: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Kernel/usr-src-linux-symlink.html
[16:43] <Izinucs> ascheel: (Scunizi here different machine.. Izinucs is Scunizi backwards) .. got a question on the global portion of the smb.conf file.. What's vfs objects = extd_audit ??
[16:45] <Typh> symlinks are the simplest, best things in the world
[16:46] <WarriorSl> anyone can help me? I'm trying to get going gnash + chrome + ubuntu 64
[16:46] <bep_> sipior tx, read it
[16:46] <WarriorSl> when I access youtube it only says "old flash? go upgrade!" and no video for me :/
[16:46] <drkje> ye, well its a bit weird, at first, i had sound but i couldnt hear people to TeamSpeak, and after a reboot, people can hear me, but i dont have sound anymore at all, cant even listen music :s
[16:46] <gunksta> ::t g be
[16:47] <bep_> i switched from gentoo to ubuntuy and read in many hotows to set the symlink
[16:47] <drkje> and there is no sound test like on XP
[16:47] <bep_> so that's why i wondered no
[16:48] <sipior> bep_: gentoo is a bit different, because you're building the C library and the kernel at installation.
[16:48] <bep_> ah, okay
[16:49] <rodcib> holaz
[16:49] <rodcib> q no abla aqi nadie o q
[16:49] <Izinucs> ascheel: ping.. you around?
[16:50] <ubulover> !en | rodcib
[16:50] <rodcib> en español plis
[16:50] <Izinucs> !es | rodcib
[16:50] <ubulover> ?
[16:50] <araujo> hello there, if I install beta version now, is there a smooth path to upgrade when stable version is released within 10 days?
[16:51] <jrib> araujo: yes, but #ubuntu+1 for lucid questions please
[16:51] <Izinucs> araujo: just keep doing your updates
[16:51] <araujo> I just don't feel like installing 9.10 right now since new version is just around the corner
[16:52] <Izinucs> araujo: easier to get it now and just do updates then trying to download right after the release when the servers get hammered
[16:53] <Jerry_yuleibest> good night folks.
[16:53] <Plugh> I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 and gdm won't play the system ready sound after the system has booted and is ready for me to login. How do I get gdm to play the sound file when its ready for me to login?
[16:53] <rodcib> tnks & bye
[16:55] <ardian> I'm having a problem with USB Startup disc creator when i add the iso it doesnt show it on the Source disck image window ?
[16:55] <Trashi> hi. i ve a small rsync problem. after building with hudson (ci system) its rsyncing to another home dir of another user (not hudson user) ... there is allways the same error for 2 or 3 files: rsync: mkstemp "/home/webservice/.crossdomain.xml.mD4VGT" failed: Permission denied (13) .. is there someone who can help2fix?
[16:55] <ardian> I'm having a problem with USB Startup disc creator when i add the iso it doesnt show it on the Source disck image window ?
[16:56] <Oer> ardian i suggest you use unetbootin
[16:56] <Oer> !unetbootin
[16:57] <ardian> Oer, i need to save settings
[16:57] <unique> i have pidentd installed and it seems to be running "identd 23634 nobody 4u IPv4 6154899 TCP *:auth (LISTEN)"
[16:57] <unique> but when i connect on irc i still see the ~ on my ident
[16:58] <Pici> unique: make sure that port 113 (auth) is being forwarded from your router to your computer.
[16:58] <costre> port forwarding ... Can't live with it, can't live without it :)
[16:59] <e-DIO-t> well! TTL reached: it's time to leave!
[16:59] <Izinucs> How do I discover my netbios name?
[16:59] <costre> TTFN
[16:59] <e-DIO-t> bye!
[16:59] <araujo> Izinucs, indeed, it makes sense, thanks, doing that right now
[16:59] <Oer> ardian, works fine here, are you sure you selected the iso correct ?
[16:59] <ardian> Yes sometimes it works sometime no
[17:07] <unique> Pici: i have 113 opened to that server.. i scanned it from outside of that network and nmap shows open for 113
[17:08] <unique> so its not a port issue
[17:08] <ani77777> hello ,can anyone help how to set up an external monitor in ubuntu i have an acer laptop
[17:09] <mac_linux> anyone experienced in working with a powerbook g4 regarding cpu/power usage?  Ubantu starts off great, then the cpu tends peak and it shuts down after a couple of hours of use.
[17:09] <mac_linux> I tried yellow dog and the same thing happens.  I'm wondering if I can do something with the configuration to prevent this.
[17:09] <ResiStance> hm..
[17:13] <Trashi> hi. i ve a small rsync problem. after building with hudson (ci system) its rsyncing to another home dir of another user (not hudson user) ... there is allways the same error for 2 or 3 files: rsync: mkstemp "/home/webservice/.crossdomain.xml.mD4VGT" failed: Permission denied (13) .. is there someone who can help2fix?
[17:13] <Oer> mac_linux there is something about the fan maybe you need to add the mactel ppa  https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa
[17:14] <david_brent> mac_linux: peaks while watching youtube :D ?
[17:14] <Oer> mac_linux, this is also a starter > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[17:14] <unique> why is my apt-get telling me this: fork failed: Cannot allocate memory ?
[17:14] <Oer> david_brent, i think no heatsink fan control
[17:15] <mac_linux> My mac is ppc...not intel.... It's a 1.33 GHz Powerbook G4.
[17:15] <Oer> i cannot check it, do not own a nice mac
[17:16] <mac_linux> Unfortunately, I don't think I can try that out Oer ... thanks though.
[17:16] <gnomeye> joat
[17:16] <DanJ> where's the default settings.xml (M2_HOME) for a default apt-get install of maven?
[17:16] <DanJ> anyone
[17:16] <DanJ> google's drawing a blank
[17:16] <CaptainTrek> DanJ: you could try looking in Synaptic at its information, it lists where most things are stored for it
[17:17] <CaptainTrek> DanJ: it should have folders listed
[17:17] <b3n4dd1> hello, i need a software that can help me do that kind of editing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B3tujXlbdk , any idea?
[17:17] <mac_linux> david_brent ... I wish it were that easy! ... It shuts down when I'm not even using it, but it is on.
[17:17] <DanJ> ta CaptainTrek, will take a look
[17:17] <Pici> DanJ: /etc/maven2/ perhaps?
[17:18] <ayam_jago> !ffmpg | b3n4dd1
[17:19] <allure> hi guys! how can I install bash4 on ubuntu 9.04?
[17:20] <CaptainTrek> allure: its not existent on the repos yet, so is there a reason you need bash4?
[17:20] <l337ingDisorder> Can anyone help sort this out? I have vsftpd running, have two users whose homedirs are, let's say, /home/user1 and /home/user2 and two directories, let's say /web/dir1 and /web/dir2 which each have 775 perms. /web/dir1 is owned by the dir1 group and /web/dir2 is owned by the dir2 group. In both /home/user1 and /home/user2 there are two symlinks that point to /web/dir1 and /web/dir2 (ie, 2...
[17:20] <l337ingDisorder> ...symlinks in each home dir, so both users have links to either web dirs) and both users are members of the dir1 and dir2 groups. User1 is able to log in through SSH or FTP and change dirs into /home/user1/dir1 (mapped to /web/dir1) and user2 can do the same through SSH but not through FTP. As far as I can tell, both users and dirs are set up exactly the same - so why would SSH work for...
[17:20] <l337ingDisorder> ...user2 but not FTP?
[17:20] <FloodBot3> l337ingDisorder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <allure> CaptainTrek: yes, I am studying shell script and there are things that only bash4 can do for me =D
[17:21] <l337ingDisorder> FloodBot3: not using enter as punctuation, just a long question
[17:21] <CaptainTrek> allure: I would check with the almighty tool called Google, see if they have a .deb installer
[17:21] <CaptainTrek> l337ingDisorder, nobody is going to bother reading through the long post, it goes really fast in here at times
[17:22] <DrPoO> I have a 12 HDD array and I would like to know how to map each device in /dev to the physical device on the array. Any suggestions on how to do this?
[17:22] <allure> CaptainTrek: I am trying to compile it, but I'm getting an error that was documented in the forums, but I could not make it work anyhow... I'll look for a .deb file anyway. Thank you.
[17:22] <CaptainTrek> also, l337ingDisorder, perhaps if you write it in pastebin or something so its in all 1 post.
[17:23] <anonymous_> hey can anybody tell me how can i install text/html decoder?
[17:23] <h00k> anonymous_: what are you trying to do? you can open it in gedit
[17:24] <l337ingDisorder> Ok I'm hoping there's someone with the skills and generosity to help me sort this issue out: http://pastebin.com/wCR2BXSu
[17:25] <anonymous_> i couldnot play one of my local fm from internet?
[17:25] <Hariharakadan> l337ingDisorder, try looking through "Users and Groups" to see if User 2 has access to SSH?
[17:26] <anonymous_> it says i need to install text/html decoder
[17:26] <Joshun> hi there, is there anyway to rebuild the dpkg info database (/var/lib/dpkg/info) without reinstalling everything?
[17:27] <l337ingDisorder> Hariharakadan: Both users can log in through SSH. neither are explicitly a member of the ssh group (ssh login through PAM). The problem is that user2 can ONLY use ssh, and can log in through FTP but cannot change directories into either web dirs
[17:27] <Hariharakadan> Oh.
[17:27] <ZykoticK9> Joshun, you *might* want to have a look at "Fix APT" at the bottom of http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/notes/apt - good luck man
[17:28] <Trashi> i still have a small rsync problem. after building with hudson (ci system) its rsyncing to another home dir of another user (not hudson user) ... there is allways the same error for 2 or 3 files: rsync: mkstemp "/home/webservice/.crossdomain.xml.mD4VGT" failed: Permission denied (13) .. is there someone who can help2fix?
[17:28] <Joshun> thanks i'll try that now
[17:28] <mac_linux> Does anyone know of a ppa for a powerpc chip?
[17:29] <Hariharakadan> l337ingDisorder, Sorry but that one is above me. Sounds like a folder permissions problem but I seriously don't know. Wish I could of been of more help.
[17:30] <Joshun> im tryin it now
[17:30] <rado1> Is it just me, or did others flash stop working today?
[17:30] <kmels> Hi, I'm trying to re-install GRUB following this instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD
[17:31] <unique> any idea why is my pidentd not working.. port 113 is opened (scanned it from outside with nmap) but i still get ~ in my ident on irc
[17:31] <sab> I want to repartition my laptop HD,to reinstall win7 and ubuntu together,need tips how should i partition my HD(I mean which os should be in logical,primary or extended and should i use gparted or win7 partition manager)???
[17:31] <kmels> when mounting i'm asked for fs type, specified ext4 and got "wrong fs type, bad option, bad sperblock on dev/sda1.. "
[17:31] <Joshun> does it involve reinstalling everything? It'll take so long you might as well do a fresh install.
[17:32] <netpro25_> Hello, the disk utility is reporting smart status okay but when I try to use smartctrl it says Device does not support SMART, any ideas?
[17:33] <maiku57012> MKT
[17:33] <LucidGuy> Formate an entire 320GB sata drive with EXT4..  I seem to have lost 4GB+ with the filesystem.  Does that make sense?
[17:33] <sab> I want to repartition my laptop HD,to reinstall win7 and ubuntu together,need tips how should i partition my HD(I mean which os should be in logical,primary or extended and should i use gparted or win7 partition manager)???
[17:33] <Oer> LucidGuy, formatting can take up to 7% of your hdd
[17:33] <h00k> LucidGuy: you'll always lose overhead due to formatting, yep
[17:34] <duffydack> tune2fs -m 0
[17:34] <llutz> LucidGuy: check for root-reserved space
[17:34] <sp> LucidGuy: additionally a drive labeled as 320GB does not have a capacity of 320GiB
[17:34] <Trashi> i still have a small rsync problem. after building with hudson (ci system) its rsyncing to another home dir of another user (not hudson user) ... there is allways the same error for 2 or 3 files: rsync: mkstemp "/home/webservice/.crossdomain.xml.mD4VGT" failed: Permission denied (13) .. is there someone who can help2fix?
[17:35] <Oer> sab instal windows7 first, reserve some space for ubuntu
[17:35] <Oer> or afterwards, let windows 7 decrease the partition with diskmanagment
[17:35] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[17:35] <LucidGuy> Also doesnt explain this exactly  /dev/sdc1             294G  191M  279G   1% /SCRATCHdrive
[17:36] <LucidGuy> Thats the drive .. whats consuming 191M
[17:36] <sab> Oer, i really have no idea that in which partition should i install ubuntu and windows ??the logical/primary/extended??
[17:37] <LucidGuy> sab install Windows in a primary and linux in another primary if you want.
[17:37] <Oer> let windows 7 do it's thing, and after installing & updates, use diskmanagment to decrease the partition, and let ubuntu use the free consolidated space
[17:37] <Spoils> Greetings.  I received the SMART warning that my hard drive is failing on my laptop.  So... I purchased a new hard drive.  A friend of mine has gotten me almost convinced that I should make the switch from a Windows OS to the Ubuntu distro.  I think I might, but... my internet comes via a USB modem (ZTE M626) and I am worried that Ubuntu will not recognise it...
[17:37] <netpro25_> Anyone know why Palimpsest works but smartctl does not on a particular drive?
[17:38] <LucidGuy> sab, I believe you can have up to 4 primary partitions.  If you want anymore you would have to use extended.
[17:38] <ansgar> Searching for someone having experiance with lomoco
[17:38] <wasabiii> So... jockey won't set up NVidia drivers for me. Anything I have to do?
[17:38] <wasabiii> Lucid.
[17:39] <wasabiii> Basically just says no hardware detecteed.
[17:39] <ZykoticK9> wasabiii, re-ask in Lucid channel #ubuntu+1
[17:39] <Oer> Spoils,  your hdspa modem will work > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1365671
[17:40] <wasabiii> Thanks.
[17:40] <sab> LucidGuy, I am asking this because from a long time i m suffering with dual boot problem,most of the time when i restart or power on my machine i found GRUB failure,for the temporary solution i always install another ubuntu to get back the grub,then again i formated my HD and installed win7 first and then ubuntu but last night i experienced the same prob.Now planing to format my HD again and do all the things carefully to get rid of this prob
[17:40] <inglor> sab, you don't have to format each time
[17:41] <coordinador> hi everybody
[17:41] <inglor> sab, you can just keep a liveCD close by, and use it to repair GRUB if it gets messed up
[17:41] <sab> inglor, its really a panic for me ,last few days I was aksing on irc to have some parmanent solution
[17:41] <inglor> sab, you might want to have a shot at lilo if grub is giving you paid
[17:41] <LucidGuy> sab, if you think you have partion table issues I would use a livecd to clean things up.
[17:41] <inglor> *pain
[17:41] <coordinador> i have a problem with my epson T210 multifunction
[17:41] <coordinador> is there an app to configure it?
[17:41] <AcePreshaw> how do i get s
[17:42] <AcePreshaw> soz
[17:42] <inglor> sab, grub IS a permanent solution, I've used it on over a 20 systems and it usually works,
[17:42] <the_student> After converting a Wubi vdisk into a partition, how do i install grub2, keeping W7 BootLoader
[17:42] <inglor> sab, but you can try to install LILO, it's another bootloader
[17:43] <sab> inglor, LucidGuy :i dont know but i tried in diffrent way,though i m very new user,
[17:43] <inglor> sab, does it just stop working out of the blue?
[17:43] <sab> inglor, i tried to install grub from the live cd but it gave me back only one os ubuntu
[17:44] <dahud> I am currently running Lucid beta 2.  When the final arrives, will I be able to upgrade from beta?
[17:44] <inglor> sab, you need to run a detect
[17:44] <sab> inglor, no just not showing me the boot loader
[17:44] <inglor> dahud, probably, but lucid questions should be asked at ubuntu+1
[17:44] <ZykoticK9> dahud, yes see !final in #ubuntu+1
[17:44] <dahud> thanks!
[17:44] <sab> inglor, how to run a detect ,i m new in linux please tell me
[17:44] <SwedeMike> dahud: just keep using update-manager and you'll be fine.
[17:44] <inglor> sab, not showing you the bootloader and booting nothing or booting windows?
[17:44] <ansgar> Searching for someone having experiance with lomoco
[17:45] <sab> last day i discussed with geekphreak and h00k about this for a long time here on irc
[17:45] <sab> inglor, yes
[17:45] <coulix_greg> if i have a process i want to restart automaticaly if it crashed i need used runit thats right?
[17:45] <hp00p> hi, im wondering if anyone knows where i can make free calls online with a web based dial pad or a linux download ?
[17:45] <sab> inglor, its really a pain now
[17:45] <inglor> sab, yes is not an answer :P does it boot windows, linux or neither?
[17:45] <sab> inglor, sorry its neither
[17:45] <inglor> hp00p, skype works on linux perfectly
[17:46] <inglor> sab, ok, well, first let's try to just fix it with grub, are you on the liveCD now?
[17:46] <Reckon> ummm, could anyone open a console an try to run gnome-session ?
[17:46] <Outlier> Can anyone tell me what I need to remove to get manual control of my network connections?  I need to do some troubleshooting and jaunty's network manager is interfering.
[17:47] <sab> inglor, no ,i just resetup everything and using ubuntu,but i m quite sure that i will face the problem soon
[17:47] <inglor> Reckon, I just did, and?
[17:47] <Reckon> I had to reboot... the system got hanged
[17:47] <Reckon> I got umpteen windows
[17:47] <Reckon> made me to reboot
[17:47] <inglor> sab, one sec
[17:47] <sab> inglor, ok
[17:48] <Reckon> anyone able to reproduce it?
[17:48] <ZykoticK9> Reckon, gnome-session would typically be called by exec from .xinintrc (or GDM/KDM ususally), not run directly
[17:48] <Reckon> really?
[17:48] <inglor> sab, ok, so now the system works right?
[17:48] <sab> inglor, most often some how my boot loader just washed off
[17:49] <sab> inglor, because last night i format my HD and reinstall win and linux again
[17:49] <inglor> sab, are you using ubuntu 9.10?
[17:49] <sab> inglor, yes
[17:49] <inglor> sab, hmmm, I'm trying to see if there is a graphical tool for grub2
[17:50] <inglor> sab, ok I think I found one
[17:50] <sab> inglor, please give me
[17:50] <inglor> it's called SUM startup manager
[17:50] <dan_> can someone tell  me how to manually set my IP address for my wired net card in ubuntu?
[17:51] <inglor> sab, do you know how to install software?
[17:51] <inglor> sab, either go to synaptic and mark startupmanager for installation and then click apply
[17:51] <Reckon> dan_ #ifconfig
[17:51] <sab> inglor, i m suffering with this problem for last 2/3 months and each time i m facing this problem i m installing new ubuntu
[17:51] <llutz> dan_: ifconfig, to make it permanent, use /etc/network/interfaces
[17:51] <inglor> sab, or go to terminal and type sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[17:51] <sab> inglor, ok
[17:51] <ubuntu> sab what is the issue?
[17:51] <the_student> How do i install grub2 keeping w7 bootmgr
[17:52] <funk_king> I can't mount my NTFS drive.
[17:52] <funk_king> its connected via usb
[17:52] <sab> ubuntu, grub loader failure for dual boot
[17:52] <ubuntu> sab, what happens at boot?  do you get stuck at the screen where grub normally is?
[17:52] <ubuntu> sab, what exactly happens?
[17:53] <ubuntu> is there just a blinking cursor?
[17:53] <sab> ubuntu, well i m telling you in a brief
[17:53] <dan_> so if i wanted to set my lan ip to 192.168.0.1 permanently what would i  type?
[17:53] <inglor> sab, when you're done installing it go to terminal and run gksudo startupmanager, after that it'll say "generating grub.cfg" and following that a list of "Found "
[17:53] <inglor> sab, what does it 'find'
[17:54] <synack> sab, is there a blinking cursor?
[17:54] <llutz> dan_: read "man interfaces"
[17:54] <sab> inglor, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:54] <sab> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:55] <inglor> sab, that means you're running both synaptic and apt
[17:55] <synack> sab, I regularly pwn my grub and can tell you how to easily fix it if this is the case
[17:55] <inglor> sab, either download it with the graphical tool, or the command line
[17:55] <sab> inglor ok
[17:55] <inglor> once you download it, run it with gksudo and then tell me what it outputs after "found"
[17:56] <jo_> I really need a working driver for intel video card for ubuntu 9.10. Can anyone help me. Yes I've searched online and the only thing I could find looked very complicated, I had no idea which one to choose.
[17:56] <xrandr> is there an ubuntu certification i can get?
[17:56] <frostburn> jo_, the intel drivers are built into x11
[17:56] <inglor> jo_:  what inter card?
[17:56] <erUSUL> jo_: try adding the xorg updates ppa
[17:56] <jo_> frostburn what is x11
[17:56] <jo_> inglor i have no idea
[17:57] <frostburn> jo_, why do you need a different driver, i should ax
[17:57] <jo_> erusul; *confused face*
[17:57] <frostburn> ask
[17:57] <frostburn> stupid twitch.
[17:57] <erUSUL> jo_: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[17:57] <dan_> this makes no sense to me lol
[17:57] <erUSUL> !ppa | jo_
[17:57] <inglor> jo_: like frostburn the intel drivers are built into the kernel of the operating system, what computer do you have
[17:57] <synack303> sab, you still haven't answered my question
[17:57] <jo_> frostburn I need to update mine, since wow is not working, and we think it's down to the video card, cos i've been reading everywhere that intel has problems with ubuntu
[17:57] <sab> inglor, synack303 i m getting these error ....E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:57] <sab> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:58] <synack303> sab, I mean regarding what happens at boot? blinking cursor?
[17:58] <jo_> inglor; it was an xp
[17:58] <frostburn> jo_, are you running it in wine?
[17:58] <inglor> sab, close update manager, synaptic and any other process you might be downloading with
[17:58] <jo_> frostburn; ofc ^^
[17:58] <theadmin> sab: Are you running some package manager? (Synaptic, Aptitude, apt-get...) besides that one you get it in?
[17:58] <sab> synack303, no totally boot failure
[17:58] <ZykoticK9> sab, either reboot - or close the other synaptic, update manager, ubuntu software center
[17:58] <synack303> sab, black screen?
[17:59] <frostburn> jo_, then your intel drivers are working, your wine ones are not, i'd ask in #winehq
[17:59] <synack303> does _anything_ happen? describe it
[17:59] <sab> synack303, yes always restarting my machine
[17:59] <jo_> frostburn; no don't go there, I spent 3 hours in there earlier confirming that it was a video card driver issue and i needed to come into this channel
[17:59] <jo_> frostburn; don't send me back :(
[17:59] <synack303> sab,  why don't you re-install grub?
[17:59] <theadmin> How can I start an app in X via terminal so it does not depend on the terminal window?
[18:00] <llutz> theadmin: nohup, screen
[18:00] <erUSUL> theadmin: nohup application &
[18:00] <theadmin> llutz: screen is not that... nohup? Hm, checkin out
[18:00] <erUSUL> theadmin: or use disown
[18:00] <synack303> sab, that normally fixes things! ;)
[18:00] <frostburn> theadmin, start it with an ampersand, then type disown
[18:00] <sab> synack303, i tried from live cd but i got back only ubnutu on boot loader
[18:00] <inglor> sab, did you run the program?
[18:00] <synack303> sab, once you have that then  from within ubuntu run "sudo update-grub"
[18:01] <sab> inglor, still getting that error but i found no apt or synaptic running,can please tell me what to do?
[18:01] <synack303> sab, that will repopulate the grub list and windows should be back
[18:01] <frostburn> jo_, well, i'd ask for what confirmation that it is a wine issue then check your traceback in wine to see exactly where it crashes out
[18:01] <inglor> sab, are you running the update manager by any chance?
[18:01] <jo_> but it's not wine
[18:01] <jo_> i don't think
[18:01] <jo_> i get this error
[18:01] <jo_> error 132
[18:01] <FloodBot3> jo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:02] <synack303> sab, have you tried that? as that should fix your issue
[18:02] <sab> inglor, may be can you please tell me how to stop that?
[18:02] <llutz> theadmin: whats wrong with screen for you?
[18:02] <inglor> sab, or anything using packages, like a program that looks kind of winzip that installs things?
[18:02] <sab> synack303, no i didnt but today i will try
[18:02] <theadmin> llutz: Well, screen is a terminal-based window manager. How can that help?
[18:02] <inglor> sab, close anything that might use it
[18:02] <frostburn> jo_, what's the full traceback from the console
[18:02] <llutz> theadmin: just detach a session
[18:02] <theadmin> *huh* it works nevertheless
[18:02] <llutz> theadmin: you never used it, right?
[18:02] <synack303> sab, seriously that should be all you need to do
[18:02] <jo_> frostburn; well i ran wow in terminal so i could paste bin the response, it comes up with the video card being the problem
[18:03] <frostburn> jo_, prove it, pastebin it
[18:03] <theadmin> llutz: No, I extensively use screen's main features such as new window, rename window, change window and exit. But no more then that
[18:03] <jo_> will do
[18:03] <sab> synack303, i dont know ,lets see
[18:03] <sab> inglor, still its not working
[18:04] <sab> inglor, please tell me how to stop all the program from cli
[18:04] <llutz> theadmin: it's a screen manager, not a window manager
[18:04] <K350> Is there any (easy to use) Flash website builder for Ubuntu?
[18:04] <llutz> for terminals
[18:04] <theadmin> llutz: Uh, well those thingies, it calls em "windows"
[18:04] <beto> boa tarde
[18:04] <jo_> http://pastebin.com/6WiAdGin
[18:04] <llutz> theadmin: you force confusion when mixing those names
[18:04] <erUSUL> !br | beto
[18:05] <inglor> sab, it's probably reasier to just restart and then run the command..
[18:05] <sab> inglor, i m very new in linux,sorry for that so i dont know that much
[18:05] <sab> inglor, ok
[18:05] <inglor> sab, don't apologize :P
[18:05] <kamikaze_kubuntu> ada orang indonesia
[18:05] <frostburn> jo_, did you install directx, or try opengl
[18:06] <frostburn> jo_, this is definitely a wine issue
[18:06] <mouseover> How can I redirect the output of a live process such that it is "grabbed" by "tail -f" ?
[18:06] <jo_> frostburn, i'm not saying your wrong but I REALLY wish you were xD, it's like you're all trying to get rid of me
[18:06] <jo_> frostburn, tried opengl
[18:07] <CaptainTrek> jo_ might you check with the wine people about this?  it definitely sounds like an issue with Wine
[18:07] <llutz> mouseover: redirect stdout to a file, then "tailf file"
[18:07] <jo_> captaintrek, you may have missed this earlier, but i spent about 2-3 hours chatting with them earlier
[18:07] <erUSUL> mouseover: maybe you can "tail -f /proc/$PID/2" but i'm not usre it would be possible.
[18:08] <jo_> captaintrek, their conclusion was simply try #ubuntu as it looks like it's the video cards fault
[18:08] <CaptainTrek> jo_ got a list of the errors you are havin so I can see it?
[18:08] <synack303> sab, you might need to delete the lock file -- it might be at either /var/cache/apt/lock or /var/lib/dpkg/lock.
[18:08] <sab> inglor, getting this error........E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[18:08] <bondiblueos9> hi
[18:08] <bondiblueos9> is there a way to tell when a process was started?
[18:08] <erUSUL> sab: and you did as the erro says ?
[18:08] <isaac_> Is there a chat for unetbootin advice?
[18:08] <jo_> captaintrek, I have screen shots, but I can write EXACTLY what they say down
[18:08] <erUSUL> sab: and you did as the error says ?
[18:08] <inglor> sab, so do what it's telling you and run that  :)
[18:08] <Spoils> Oer: thanks
[18:08] <CaptainTrek> jo_ PM me what they say, i don't want to flood #ubuntu
[18:09] <bondiblueos9> is there a way to tell when a process was started?
[18:09] <sipior> bondiblueos9: yes, ps shows that.
[18:09] <llutz> bondiblueos9: ps if not longer than 24h ago
[18:10] <bondiblueos9> sipior, llutz: what if it was longer than 24h ago
[18:10] <DrPoO> how do I enable symbolic links in a samba share?
[18:10] <sipior> bondiblueos9: it will show the date.
[18:10] <synack303> sab, did update-grub work?
[18:10] <sab> inglor, i was trying but not working
[18:10] <bondiblueos9> sipior, llutz: but is there a way to show the hour?
[18:10] <sab> synack303, i didnt try yet
[18:11] <synack303> sab, well make a note because I am off... good luck
[18:11] <inglor> sab, well, what output?
[18:11] <sipior> bondiblueos9: you can pull the information out of /proc/$pid, i suppose.
[18:11] <sab> synack303, thank you
[18:12] <sipior> bondiblueos9: have a look through the ps man page, probably something there...
[18:12] <sab> inglor, can you please tell me what command should i use for that?
[18:12] <frostburn> bondiblueos9, cat /proc/12345/sched
[18:12] <BaseBallBoy> Okay, so I have this VGA splitter and I have two monitors, one video card. Is it possible to have two different work spaces(monitor wise)?
[18:12] <frostburn> wehre 12345 is your pid
[18:12] <inglor> when you run sudo apt-get install startupmanager what output?
[18:12] <inglor> BaseBallBoy: yes it is
[18:12] <AcePreshaw> How can i ues samba
[18:12] <BaseBallBoy> How?
[18:12] <inglor> BaseBallBoy: what graphics card?
[18:13] <BaseBallBoy> one second
[18:13] <chazco> Any word on when the medibuntu repos will be back online?
[18:13] <inglor> BaseBallBoy: do you want to run an extended desktop or two different X servers?
[18:13] <bondiblueos9> ok, thanks all
[18:13] <iceroot> chazco: they have never gone
[18:13] <bondiblueos9> is there a way to direct output to both a file and stdout?
[18:13] <iceroot> bondiblueos9: tee
[18:13] <BaseBallBoy> extended desktop I assume
[18:14] <iceroot> BaseBallBoy: not with a splitter, you need 2 vga outputs
[18:14] <erUSUL> bondiblueos9: tee
[18:14] <BaseBallBoy> :(
[18:14] <erUSUL> bondiblueos9: command | tee file
[18:14] <bondiblueos9> awesome, thanks
[18:14] <llutz> bondiblueos9: zsh  ;)
[18:14] <inglor> BaseBallBoy: what graphics card?
[18:15] <BaseBallBoy> nvidia vanta-16
[18:15] <bondiblueos9> is there a way to use date to convert from unix seconds to a readable date? (it doesn't seem to accept the seconds as a valid date)
[18:15] <iFire> does anyone here use glassfish? what do I install to use asadmin?
[18:15] <sab> inglor, http://paste.ubuntu.com/418728/
[18:16] <Plugh> Who can I talk to about minor problems related to gdm?
[18:16] <oaie_seaca> hello. I have a some sort of problem on my hard drive. when I type ls in one folder I get # ls: cannot access SomeFile.avi: Input/output error
[18:16] <inglor> sab, why are you even installing java :P
[18:16] <sab> inglor, unfortunately i have to signout because where i m using internet the place will be closed by 5 min....:-(
[18:17] <sab> inglor, i was trying to install it
[18:17] <inglor> sab, ok (well no need really :P)
[18:17] <inglor> sab, well, we'll work on it later
[18:17] <BaseBallBoy> inglor: nvidia vanta-16
[18:17] <sab> inglor, can tell me the soulting please
[18:17] <frostburn> bondiblueos9, http://www.whatsmyip.org/stringtotime/
[18:18] <inglor> BaseBallBoy: there is a workaround, but your card is not powerful enough :( sorry you can't run 2 displays off it
[18:18] <frostburn> jo_, all i see are similar problems here http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=%23+fixme%3Ad3d_caps%3Awined3d_guess_card+No+card+selector+available+for+GL+vendor+3+and+card+vendor+8086.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[18:18] <llutz> bondiblueos9: date -ud @123456        <- seconds
[18:18] <Sunight> :::
[18:19] <jo_> frostburn, so what can i do about it?
[18:19] <crucialhoax> If I'm just looking to install 9.10, which is the better way; alternate or desktop?
[18:19] <bondiblueos9> llutz, nice that was it, thanks
[18:19] <inglor> !ask | Plugh
[18:19] <inglor> crucialhoax: desktop usually
[18:19] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: alternat i have to say i like :)
[18:19] <bjorn_> Hi, i just installed ubuntu. how can I have WiFi enabled automatically at startup? now i have to manually make it start.
[18:20] <crucialhoax> geekphreak: alternate is a network install right? It downloads the latest packages?
[18:20] <inglor> bjorn_, automatically start or connect to the network?
[18:20] <frostburn> jo_, i'd try different versions of wine
[18:20] <Plugh> inglor: I have asked my questions on three separate occasions. I waited hours each time for a response and got nothing.
[18:20] <inglor> crucialhoax: the desktop downloads the updates as well
[18:20] <jo_> frostburn, I've tried the latest and 1.2 I believe
[18:20] <crucialhoax> inglor: After it is installed tho.
[18:20] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: it has other options too , which i like a lot
[18:20] <iceroot> Plugh: maybe it was a question without usefull details
[18:20] <inglor> Plugh, what question? if no-one here can help you you can ask at the gnome support IRC
[18:21] <Plugh> (11:53:36 AM) Plugh: I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 and gdm won't play the system ready sound after the system has booted and is ready for me to login. How do I get gdm to play the sound file when its ready for me to login?
[18:21] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: matter of personal choice i guess
[18:21] <bjorn_> inglor, right now i have to right click in the notification bar and choose "enable wireless (or however its translated..)..
[18:21]  * BaseBallBoy just died inside
[18:21] <inglor> crucialhoax: I -think- that if you have a live internet connection it's not after you install
[18:21] <crucialhoax> geekphreak: Ok, I figured I would ask which is better for 9.10 so I would get an answer. I am about to install 10.04 lol
[18:21] <crucialhoax> inglor: Not sure, have not tried that yet.
[18:21] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: well that helps eh :p
[18:22] <allure> have anyone installed bash4 on ubuntu x64?
[18:22] <iceroot> Plugh: the sound-theme is choosen? the speaker is not muted?
[18:22] <frostburn> jo_, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17421  its saying you need to use opengl, and that your mileage may vary with cards
[18:22] <crucialhoax> geekphreak: I thought so :) but anyways, I will be back soon using a fresh 10.04 :D brb all.
[18:22] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: good luck
[18:22] <iceroot> allure: i guess someone in this channel has done it. you have a real question?
[18:23] <inglor> bjorn_: go to system->preferences>network connections
[18:23] <BaseBallBoy> inglor: What is the workaround exactly?
[18:23] <inglor> bjorn_: go to wireless, click on your connection, click edit, and tag the "connect automatically" box
[18:23] <Plugh> iceroot: My system plays the login sound after I have entered the login details for the account.
[18:23] <allure> iceroot: yeah, I want to know if they had any issues with it =)
[18:23] <ZykoticK9> allure, bash4 is default in Lucid BTW
[18:24] <frostburn> when is 10.04 due out anyway
[18:24] <iceroot> ZykoticK9: i cant imagine
[18:24] <geekphreak> !lucid | Frozenball
[18:24] <iceroot> !info bash lucid
[18:24] <bjorn_> inglor, its already ticked
[18:24] <ZykoticK9> frostburn, 10 days from today
[18:24] <inglor> BaseBallBoy: I don't really know tbh, I just remember a friend doing it :P
[18:24] <allure> ZykoticK9: nice to know
[18:24] <iceroot> ZykoticK9: hm, interessting
[18:25] <BaseBallBoy> inglor: I see
[18:25] <allure> How can I upgrade to Lucid?
[18:25] <iceroot> allure: #ubuntu+1
[18:25] <ZykoticK9> allure, #ubuntu+1 for any Lucid related questions
[18:25] <allure> Thank you
[18:25] <inglor> but I do remember him telling me you need a very powerful card
[18:26] <BaseBallBoy> inglor: question you said I can't run to displays off of it correct?
[18:26] <blinkiz> Hi. I need help finding a product. It exist a vnc project for easy helping other people. You just send a small little program to the user you want to help and the user press "help" (something). I then connects to my computer and initiate the vnc connection. I now it's hosted on code.google.com.
[18:26] <coachj> does this  (Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: sun-java6-jre )mean that I need this file?
[18:26] <lyhana8> hi, I got some issue with my ralink rt2870 wireless card
[18:26] <BaseBallBoy> I am running two displays, they are just clones ATM
[18:26] <jo_> frostburn, i am using opengl
[18:26] <bondiblueos9> if anyone was curious, this worked out for me (for process start time) : ps -eo pid,lstart,cmd
[18:26] <inglor> BaseBallBoy: two different displays
[18:26] <lyhana8> it's not present in ifconfig/iwconfig
[18:26] <ZykoticK9> coachj, are you on Lucid by chance?
[18:26] <geekphreak> blinkiz: kinda of like teamviewer?
[18:26] <iceroot> BaseBallBoy: you can use every card with 2 vga-outputs to extend the desktp, nothing special needed
[18:26] <BaseBallBoy> :(
[18:27] <blinkiz> Oh, found it. geekphreak .. Gitso
[18:27] <inglor> iceroot: he doesn't have 2 vga outputs just a splitter
[18:27] <lyhana8> when I modprode rt2800usb nothing more
[18:27] <iceroot> BaseBallBoy: also you can use 2 different vga-cards with 1 output each
[18:27] <jo_> frostburn, i've already looked at that page
[18:27] <coachj> Zykotick9: Im on 10.4 beta 2 is that lucid ?
[18:27] <iceroot> inglor: and i told him that a splitter is not working
[18:27] <theadmin> Does this script look fine? I'm unsure of some stuff. http://paste.ubuntu.com/418737/
[18:27] <ZykoticK9> coachj, join #ubuntu+1 and i'll give you the fix
[18:27] <wrapster> guys i need urgent help... I had left ping runnign for a very long time and it filled up the space.. now i thought if i reboot it will help and tried that..  then i get this error "GDM could not write new authorization entry to disk. possibly disk full"
[18:27] <frostburn> jo_, not sure how much i can help, it's definitely a wine/x11/intel issue...search the wine forums for anyone else using intel cards, elsewise, buy a cheap nvidia card?
[18:27] <wrapster> please help.
[18:28] <coachj> Zykotick9: there
[18:28] <vonderer> hi
[18:28] <vonderer> having a problem with monitor
[18:28] <vonderer> it worked ok 5 hours ago
[18:28] <geekphreak> wrapster:  can you  run this in terminal df -h
[18:28] <BaseBallBoy> vonderer: aren't we all?
[18:28] <vonderer> but now it’s 640x480
[18:28] <jo_> frostburn, ye thanks, i've searched everywhere, and really i just think i need an up-to-date driver for intel that works with ubuntu because I don't htink I have anything installed and I found that might be the answer
[18:29] <vonderer> and nvidia-settings say that it’s a CRT
[18:29] <geekphreak> arvind_k: new id?
[18:29] <wrapster> geekphreak: i did and saw / as 100% full
[18:29] <theadmin> vonderer: Can you try "xrandr -s 1024x768"?
[18:29] <wrapster> right now im booted into the live cd
[18:29] <wrapster> anything i can do here ..
[18:29] <arvind_k> geekphreak, aah no :) just got disconnected from the other one, lousy ISP
[18:29] <xrandr> hey! don't make me have to work,  theadmin
[18:29] <frostburn> jo_, maybe try 10.04 rc?
[18:29] <theadmin> xrandr: looool
[18:29] <geekphreak> arvind_k: :)
[18:30] <geekphreak> wrapster: got too many programs/data on it
[18:30] <geekphreak> arvind_khadri: gtsy :)
[18:30] <wrapster> geekphreak: not really but i cannot afford a reinstall of ubuntu now.. coz i have data elsewhere
[18:31] <vonderer> theadmin, Size 1024x768 not found in available modes
[18:31] <dan__> Does anyone stream videos from ubuntu to Xbox 360?
[18:31] <geekphreak> wrapster: well you need to clean it up for sure 100% full, is never a good sign
[18:31] <theadmin> vonderer: :/ weird. Sry can't help anymore
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, remove old kernels
[18:32] <wrapster> geekphreak: how can i clean it now?
[18:32] <jo_> frostburn, i will try everything
[18:32] <wrapster> after im inside the live cd?
[18:32] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, you can also remove packages which you dont use, also you can remove unwanted libs using deborphan
[18:32] <vonderer> how can I disable plymouth without uninstalling it?
[18:32] <TomG> wrapster: You need to mount the drive first, most likely it'll be sda1.
[18:32] <geekphreak> wrapster:  you cant even start pc ?
[18:32] <isolat3dsh33p> anyone knows how to get mp3 files from flash?
[18:32] <Plugh> I'll head over to the gnome channel and ask over there. thanks.
[18:32] <noaudio> guys there is something really wrong in karmics user/group thing
[18:33] <noaudio> it locked me out of my computer
[18:33] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, you need to be in Ubuntu, go to recovery mode
[18:33] <noaudio> when i added a new user, it removed my other users from sudoers group
[18:33] <noaudio> wtf!
[18:33] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: i can star the pc the grub loads and then i get this error "GDM could not write new authorization entry to disk. possibly disk full"
[18:33] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: after that i get a login prompt that is very sluggish
[18:33] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, go to the recovery mode, there is no X there
[18:34] <noaudio> now i reinstalled and have no audio!
[18:34] <arvind_khadri> noaudio, how did you add ?
[18:34] <noaudio> i used the gui
[18:34] <oneirosFade> Hey all.
[18:34] <wrapster> arvind_khadri:
[18:34] <arvind_khadri> !hi | oneirosFade
[18:35] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: ok i was able to mount sda1 directly from the live cd
[18:35] <wrapster> how do i clean it now?
[18:35] <noaudio> it completely locked me out of administrating anything on my machine, and now i have no audio after reinstalling....
[18:35] <oneirosFade> LOL, thanks for the, um... 'bot-sponse?
[18:35] <geekphreak> wrapster: would be nice if you actually got on the system
[18:35] <TomG> wrapster: Like someone else said, removing a few old kernels should be enough to get you back in
[18:35] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, i dont know this method, probably involves chroot, i would suggest you log in from recovery console
[18:36] <wrapster> TomG: i think i missed that part on this channel.. too many convs scrolling by.
[18:36] <wrapster> could you please repeat.
[18:36] <noaudio> man shit am i really about to install another sound card?
[18:36] <geekphreak> noaudio: watch language plz
[18:36] <TomG> wrapper: You can go into the /boot folder on the drive an remove some older kernels
[18:36] <TomG> wrapster: Whoops, wrong name
[18:36] <TomG> wrapster: Or, check the logs for anything huge in there.
[18:37] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: if i do so i cannot talk to you guys and if i get stuck i will have to redo so if its possible via the live cd itself.. it would be really helpful
[18:37] <geekphreak> wrapster: s partition mounted?
[18:37] <geekphreak> is*
[18:37] <noaudio> i added a new user "testing" with the GUI in karmic and it removed all other users from sudoers and didn't put new user on sudoers!!!
[18:37] <wrapster> geekphreak: yes its mounted
[18:38] <noaudio> GRRR lame, such bs...
[18:38] <h00k> noaudio: you need to watch your language
[18:38] <geekphreak> wrapster:  any unwanted files you can delete in your $HOME ?
[18:38] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, erm, then just go to your root drive and remove few kernels, in /boot and /var/cache/apt/archives
[18:38] <qwertyjustin> hey everytime i load up ubuntu now, destop icons dont show, and gnome folder windows wont open either - any reason u might now for thaT?
[18:38] <geekphreak> wrapster:  i would clean some logs and temmp folder too
[18:38] <TomG> wrapster: Where is it mounted?  You can use mount or df to find it.  Look for /dev/sda1
[18:38] <oneirosFade> Hm, ok, I guess I just encountered a question.  In Empathy, is there a way to list the rooms on the chat server?  It seems to be greyed out for my IRC profile, so I can't look through the rooms on this server... :(
[18:38] <geekphreak> h00k: thanks i warned him once before tooo
[18:39] <h00k> geekphreak: I saw that
[18:39] <wrapster> geekphreak: i have nothing there..its clean
[18:39] <noaudio> my audio should be working this is wack, just did a fresh install...
[18:39] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: one sec pls
[18:39] <qwertyjustin> hey everytime i load up ubuntu now, destop icons dont show, and gnome folder windows wont open either - any reason u might now for thaT?
[18:40] <h00k> !sound | noaudio
[18:40] <centaur5> Which directory stores the settings edited in gconf-editor? I copied .gconf and .gnome2 in /etc/skel but my changes in gconf-editor didn't copy.
[18:40] <geekphreak> wrapster:  to uninstall application you need to get on the system,
[18:41] <arvind_khadri> geekphreak, he can just remove the debs
[18:41] <troopperi> qwertyjustin: it think your nautilus been messed up
[18:41] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: how do i knwo which kernel to remove in the /boot dir?
[18:42] <erUSUL> wrapster: do not remove by hand; uninstall the kernel packages
[18:42] <h00k> wrapster: remove them from synaptic, not just from that folder
[18:43] <wrapster> erUSUL:  / h00k : how do i do that? how do i know the name of the kerenl pkgs?
[18:43] <isolat3dsh33p> is there any application to record audios from streaming audios?
[18:43] <erUSUL> wrapster: search for linux-image in synaptic
[18:43] <erUSUL> !info streamreaper
[18:43] <arvind_khadri> erUSUL, he is on a live cd, chroot will be better
[18:44] <erUSUL> arvind_khadri: wrapster ooops sorry did not know it was from a livecd ...
[18:44] <troopperi> qwertyjustin: try sudo aptitude -y install ubuntu-desktop
[18:44] <wrapster> erUSUL: ok.. so that wont work is it?
[18:44] <geekphreak> erUSUL: i think its ripper
[18:44] <erUSUL> !info streamripper
[18:44] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: can you please tel me what to do now?
[18:45] <wrapster> if i can just bring my machine up it would be great
[18:45] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: so far ive used the live cd and mounted the root partition.
[18:45] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, delete an older kernel :)
[18:45] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: how do i know the older kernel
[18:46] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, look at the numbers, you will understand
[18:46] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: kida lost here would really be helpful if you can guide me step by step.
[18:47] <h00k> wrapster: lesser version numbers are older. the higher the number, the newer it is.
[18:47] <geekphreak> wrapster: you can empty your Trash
[18:48] <wrapster> geekphreak: trash?
[18:48] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, just look at the numbers, 2.6.31.xx , xx should be a low number
[18:48] <geekphreak> wrapster: yeah deleted items, in bin
[18:49] <h00k> geekphreak: he's removing older kernels from synaptic
[18:49] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, geekphreak, thanks :)
[18:49] <isolat3dsh33p> doesn't work for ultimate-guitar flash player T_T
[18:49] <geekphreak> h00k: dont think so, he has just mounted / via live cd afaik mate
[18:49] <h00k> geekphreak: okay, I am mistaken, sorry, carry on.
[18:50] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: yes i have 2.6.28-xx
[18:50] <geekphreak> isolat3dsh33p: no worries
[18:50] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: is there anything specific i should remove.. or anything older is fine?
[18:51] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, anything older, just remove one
[18:51] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: i have "abi-<kernel-version> , config-<kerenl-version>, intrd.img-<kernel-version>, vmcoreinfo-<kerenl-verison>, and vmlinuz-<kerenl-version>
[18:51] <Oer> to free some space, i would use this first > sudo apt-get clean
[18:52] <isolat3dsh33p> geekphreak, is there any other way? :D
[18:52] <Shunt31> wouldn't you remove linux-image** and linux-headers**?
[18:52] <geekphreak> isolat3dsh33p: for what?
[18:52] <h00k> geekphreak: why is he deleting the kernels manually?
[18:52] <ubuntu> hey, when I open my system X dosen't start, but I'm just dropped to console ! and I see some strange error just after logging in saying "failed to add entry for use myname" :D
[18:52] <geekphreak> h00k: no idea mate, he is working with arvind_khadri
[18:52] <Shunt31> how else would you delete them?
[18:52] <ubuntu> any idea how to solve this ?
[18:52] <h00k> geekphreak: alright :)
[18:52] <ubuntu> I've just carried out an fsck if this may help :)
[18:53] <isolat3dsh33p> geekphreak, I was asking about how to grab streaming audios.
[18:53] <wrapster> arvind_khadri: which one to delete? to be safe just let me know .. i'll delete then.
[18:54] <geekphreak> isolat3dsh33p: there is always a way :)
[18:54] <ubuntu> any ideas ?
[18:54] <wrapster> guys anyone pls?
[18:54] <ubuntu> I'm now stuck on live CD  :(
[18:54] <siavashserver> :?
[18:54] <Shunt31> wrapster what versions do you have?
[18:55] <maginot> Hi...
[18:55] <wrapster> shunt31: all are 2.6.28-11 and 2.6.28-28
[18:55] <geekphreak> maginot: howdy
[18:55] <wrapster> i mean 2.6.28-18
[18:55] <Shunt31> what older kernels are there?
[18:56] <arvind_khadri> h00k, as he cant boot his machine. do you know chrooting ? if so help him, he is no on a live cd
[18:56] <Shunt31> oh, you mean they are the only 2 kernels installed?
[18:56] <funk_king> why isn't my usb drive showing up in /dev
[18:56] <oneirosFade> When I try to install, say, gnome-shell, I get a dependency error... how would I figure out which repo was contributing to that error?
[18:56] <Shunt31> maybe delete 2.6.28-11?
[18:56] <arvind_khadri> wrapster, go with 11
[18:57] <wrapster> Shunt31:  abi-2.6.28-11-generic , config-2.6.28-11-generic, initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic, , System.map-2.6.28-11-generic,vmcoreinfo-2.6.28-11-generic, vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic
[18:57] <wrapster> thats all the older kernels i have
[18:57] <ubuntu>  when I open my system X dosen't start, but I'm just dropped to console ! and I see some strange error just after logging in saying "failed to add entry for use myname" :D
[18:57] <wrapster> Shunt31: th remainig are all 2.6.28-18
[18:57] <ZykoticK9> oneirosFade, i'm running Lucid so this might not apply to you -- but xulrunner-1.9.1 isn't updating in Lucid and is a requirement of gnome-shell
[18:58] <oneirosFade> Yeah, I'm in Lucid as of this afternoon, but it's some other random thing that says it can't install
[18:58] <bjorn_> how can I change the default keyring be unlocked by default?
[18:58] <neo_> Dell
[18:58] <jpds> bjorn_: Give it no password.
[18:58] <neo_> ?
[18:58] <neo_> Hey, boys
[18:58] <bjorn_> jpds, its brilliant!
[18:58] <bjorn_> :)
[18:59] <neo_> someone noticed me ?
[18:59] <ZykoticK9> oneirosFade, well you're outofluck for gnome-shell under Lucid right now -- but are you having issues with Medibuntu perhaps?  #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[18:59] <geekphreak> wrapster: do you have irssi installed?
[18:59] <wrapster> Shunt31: ok im going to "rm  abi-2.6.28-11-generic"
[18:59] <erUSUL> !hi | neo_
[18:59] <Ryuurei> Hi everyone. I'm new to this whole IRC thing. Been using ubuntu for a while so I thought I'd join
[18:59] <geekphreak> wrapster:  hold on man
[18:59] <neo_> Hi
[18:59] <Oer> you need the current kernel and the one befre that > 2.6.28.11 + 2.6.28.18 so you cannot safe delete any kernel package
[18:59] <JumboJellyfish> Shunt31, do you have a shunt in your brain?
[18:59] <wrapster> geekphreak: irssi ?
[18:59] <wrapster> geekphreak: i dont think so.. what is it?
[18:59] <wrapster> geekphreak: ok
[18:59] <geekphreak> wrapster: it is irssi chat client text based
[19:00] <neo_> er, would someone like to give me a hand
[19:00] <oneirosFade> ZykoticK9: Medi hasn't been hitting since yesterday (on Karmic) for me, so I didn't think anything of it.  I'm loving some of the ideas they had for Lucid, but some of the ways they implemented it is peeving me something fierce.
[19:00] <kallisti5> so...  how about those damn buttons on the left?
[19:00] <isolat3dsh33p> geekphreak, I can't seem find the way. :(
[19:00] <h00k> !ask | neo_
[19:00] <erUSUL> !ask | neo_
[19:00] <wrapster> geekphreak: no i dont have it
[19:00] <Ryuurei> #leave
[19:00] <h00k> ubottu: bug 565810
[19:00] <geekphreak> wrapster:  for now just clean out logs and temp folders
[19:00] <wrapster> i cannot screw this up guys so please help.. i have very imp data
[19:00] <ZykoticK9> h00k, don't think bugs work in #ubuntu
[19:00] <wrapster> geekphreak: ok
[19:01] <h00k> ZykoticK9: I remember now :D
[19:01] <neo_> I'm a new comer here
[19:01] <zongo_> histo, is anyone able to connect to the medibuntu repo. I am trying to install css ?
[19:01] <neo_> and I'm a Ubuntu newer
[19:01] <geekphreak> wrapster: then reboot system without live cd
[19:01] <h00k> re Medibuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810
[19:01] <geekphreak> wrapster: did you have anything in Trash folder, items you deleted that you can clean?
[19:02] <neo_> Now I have to use the right of the root to modify the dict
[19:02] <h00k> neo_: If you have a question, please ask it all on one line so that somebody can best help you
[19:02] <erUSUL> !sudo | neo_
[19:02] <wrapster> geekphreak: nothing.
[19:02] <kallisti5> can you answer a question? | !ask | lol
[19:02] <malcomx> hay wats up all
[19:02] <neo_> But I cannot to configure the right
[19:02] <geekphreak> wrapster: where is root mounted?
[19:02] <wrapster> geekphreak: cleaned /var/logs
[19:02] <neo_> er..
[19:02] <wrapster> geekphreak: still the same size
[19:02] <Shunt31> what are these bots all about?
[19:03] <kallisti5> !buttons-on-left | ubuntu
[19:03] <geekphreak> wrapster: where did you mount / ?
[19:03] <neo_> yes
[19:03] <h00k> kallisti5: for Lucid discussion, head to #ubuntu+1
[19:03] <wrapster> geekphreak: mounted it on /mnt/test
[19:03] <mickster04> Shunt31: channel ops
[19:03] <wrapster> on the live cd
[19:03] <geekphreak> wrapster:  type this sudo du -sh /mnt/test/log
[19:03] <h00k> mickster04: ?
[19:04] <benkevan> Man.. why after installing my Nvidia drivers using the Hardware Device method.. my Boot Screen is fugly
[19:04] <geekphreak> wrapster:  type this sudo du -sh /mnt/test/home/username/.local/share/Trash  <<replace username with your username
[19:04] <mickster04> h00k: shunt asked about the bots
[19:04] <chunkymonkey> Just installed Ubuntu 9.10, software center is missing an apply button to install the selected app. Does anyone know what is going on?
[19:04] <benkevan> it's like it nerfed my boot resolution to 600x480 or something
[19:04] <Shunt31> ok...
[19:04] <Shunt31> thanks
[19:04] <neo_> oh I have been into the configure
[19:05] <chunkymonkey> does anyone know the terminal command to install ubuntu restricted extras
[19:05] <neo_> wish you have a good
[19:05] <neo_> day
[19:05] <benkevan> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:05] <neo_> happy
[19:05] <h00k> !bot | Shunt31, mickster04
[19:05] <maginot> benkevan, because you installed a new drive, so you should reconfigure...
[19:05] <neo_> ~~
[19:05] <neo_> exit
[19:05] <FloodBot3> neo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <wrapster> geekphreak: "username" is not at all present in the mount dir?
[19:05] <chunkymonkey> thanks benkevan
[19:05] <wrapster> i mean my home dir was not there at all
[19:05] <geekphreak> wrapster: i said replae with username that u have :)
[19:05] <Shunt31> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:05] <wrapster> geekphreak: yes i have
[19:06] <benkevan> maginot: remake init?
[19:06] <Shunt31> bit late there
[19:06] <Shunt31> sorry
[19:06] <geekphreak> wrapster: ok prob. encrypted fun fun fun !!
[19:06] <chunkymonkey> Does anyone know what the apply button would be missing
[19:06] <wrapster> but i dont see my home dir only.. thats the prob
[19:06] <wrapster> geekphreak: not good.. :(
[19:06] <benkevan> chunkymonkey: Because they don't want you to apply?
[19:06] <wrapster> geekphreak: what to do now?
[19:06] <maginot> benkevan, no, xinitrc is to start the desktop but nvidia creates a new xorg.conf
[19:06] <geekphreak> wrapster: any application on that you dont use?
[19:06] <geekphreak> and you can uninstall wrapster
[19:07] <chunkymonkey> benkevan this happens on any app that i select
[19:07] <benkevan> xinitrc: but this is my boot screen (right after grub).. the Ubuntu screen.. is fugly..
[19:07] <wrapster> geekphreak: i dont remember now..
[19:07] <benkevan> would that still be xinitrc? since that's more for the DE?
[19:07] <geekphreak> wrapster: great )
[19:07] <Shunt31> anybody know how to make the same username in irssi and xchat?
[19:07] <wrapster> geekphreak:  :(
[19:07] <geekphreak> wrapster: dont worry, nothing is gonna happen
[19:07] <Shunt31> I just don't know which to pick
[19:08] <geekphreak> h00k: so waht do you say empty cache folder?
[19:08] <maginot> benkevan, sorry, I don't get it... you are talking about your screen resolution right? So nvidia has a panel which changes are then applied to xorg.conf
[19:08] <wrapster> geekphreak: how can i get it to boot now.. just anythin im ready to do.
[19:08] <h00k> geekphreak: er, I wasn't following
[19:08] <chunkymonkey> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras did not work got a "Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted-extras" is this comand wrong.. this is what i used sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:08] <geekphreak> h00k: np
[19:08] <benkevan> maginot: No.. not DE screen resolution.. the bootsplash resolution
[19:08] <maginot> chunkymonkey, aptitude search restricted
[19:08] <geekphreak> wrapster: ok do this
[19:08] <Shunt31> chunkymonkey, it isnt
[19:08] <geekphreak> wrapster: sudo du -sh /mnt/test/var/cache/apt
[19:08] <maginot> benkevan, so its grub problem afaik
[19:09] <Shunt31> what about enabling the repos in software sources?
[19:09] <switch10_> Shunt31: irssi --help     you can choose a nick when you start irssi
[19:09] <chunkymonkey> Shunt31: thanks
[19:09] <geekphreak> wrapster: how much size it returns?
[19:09] <Shunt31> thnaks
[19:09] <wrapster> geekphreak: 423M
[19:09] <d34d|away> chunkymonkey: have you done an ¨sudo apt-get update¨?
[19:09] <Shunt31>  I can't type today either
[19:09] <geekphreak> wrapster: ok we will clean that
[19:09] <chunkymonkey> d34d|away no i have not this is a new install
[19:09] <wrapster> geekphreak: fully?
[19:09] <benkevan> maginot:that's what I thought.. that it'd be gfxmode=
[19:09] <chunkymonkey> d34d|away will do
[19:09] <benkevan> which for some reason is now 640x480
[19:09] <maginot> benkevan, no no wrong
[19:09] <d34d|away> do that first then the other
[19:09] <geekphreak> wrapster: cd /mnt/test/var/cache/apt/archives
[19:10] <wrapster> geekphreak: done.. now what?
[19:10] <geekphreak> wrapster: you can always redownload these
[19:10] <geekphreak> wrapster: clean that folder
[19:10] <wrapster> ok cool.. i dont mind that.
[19:10] <chunkymonkey> d34d|away doing that now thanks
[19:10] <d34d|away> chunkymonkey: np
[19:10] <geekphreak> wrapster: clean the archive folder, then reboot
[19:10] <wrapster> geekphreak: archives cleaned
[19:10] <geekphreak> wrapster: come out of ti reboot
[19:11] <geekphreak> wrapster: get on main system
[19:11] <maginot> benkevan, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX append vga=<mode_you_want> some modes -> http://pierre.baudu.in/other/grub.vga.modes.html
[19:12] <maginot> benkevan, of course, you should ALWAYS edit /etc/default/grub
[19:12] <maginot> benkevan, if you hope to use gfx then use: GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768
[19:14] <benkevan> how can I initiate vbe to find my allowed bios extentions though?
[19:15] <maginot> benkevan, allowed bios extensions, like what, watchdog ?
[19:15] <benkevan> vbeinfo
[19:17] <geekphreak> isolat3dsh33p: are you there?
[19:17] <yacc> How can I figure out why I cannot activate Bluetooth on Karmic?
[19:17] <libertiy> hi everyone
[19:17] <libertiy> i need to host some maiboxes, with qmail preferrable
[19:17] <libertiy> a quick and safe drop and run solution ; anyone can advise me?
[19:17] <JoeSomebody> hi, an update mentioned a new samba, what is it - more secure, or more flexible, or something else?
[19:17] <libertiy> preferrable with a web ui
[19:17] <libertiy> to create some mailboxes for websites i host on a server
[19:18] <h00k> !enter | libertiy
[19:18] <maginot> benkevan, dmesg didn't say anything?
[19:18] <buttons840> is it possible to make gnome start upon login rather than on boot?   IE; i will see a simple terminal prompt for login rather than the gui login screen, upon login gnome will start and present the desktop?
[19:18] <libertiy> sorry
[19:18] <Acoustyk> Is this the right place for GUI questions?
[19:18] <Urda> libertiy: Have you heard of roundcube? It is quiet good!
[19:18] <Urda> quite*
[19:18] <libertiy> no havent heard of it yet
[19:18] <Urda> libertiy: http://roundcube.net/
[19:18] <h00k> Acoustyk: it depends, what is your question?
[19:18] <benkevan> naw.. I can probably just get to grub menu and do it there :)
[19:18] <chunkymonkey> thanks all ubuntu rocks
[19:19] <geekphreak> wrapster: any luck?
[19:19] <MegaHerz> hi all. This is offtopic, sorry about that. just need many many ppl's opinion. Does anyone remember the name of comic series about book store?
[19:19] <wrapster> geekphreak: thank you
[19:19] <wrapster> worked.. yay yay!! :)
[19:19] <geekphreak> wrapster:  good
[19:19] <h00k> !ot | MegaHerz
[19:19] <Urda> libertiy: I think that is what you are looking for... let me know if it doesn't suit your needs
[19:19] <wrapster> thank you all
[19:19] <Pici> MegaHerz: Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic stuff
[19:19] <wrapster> but im off by just 1GB
[19:19] <libertiy> it looks nice but that is just a webui for the mailbox right?
[19:19] <wrapster> anyting more i can do now?
[19:19] <libertiy> i ment actually the server part
[19:19] <benkevan> brb..
[19:19] <chunkymonkey> d34d|away maginot benkevan thanks
[19:19] <benkevan> going to check it out..
[19:19] <libertiy> qmail server setup and admin config panel
[19:20] <Acoustyk> h00k: Well I got a new monitor and had to add it's resolution via xandr command in terminal.  Everything is fine but the title bar of the windows turn white when maximized.
[19:20] <libertiy> just to make it easy to add some simple mailboxes to my ruby on rails hosting enviroment :)
[19:20] <geekphreak> wrapster: keep an eye on disk space :)
[19:20] <Acoustyk> h00k: No idea what's wrong
[19:20] <Urda> libertiy: I thought it had an admin interface, guess not yet :-\ let me see
[19:20] <Acoustyk> h00k: I am running compiz though.
[19:20] <wrapster> geekphreak: thats fine but where is the trash dir located?
[19:20] <wrapster> once again
[19:21] <h00k> Acoustyk: I don't know, it sounds like a theme issue, perhaps?
[19:21] <Urda> libertiy: Perhaps something like http://www.webmin.com/ might help you out for more that just mailboxes?
[19:21] <geekphreak> wrapster: right click panel >> add to panel >> add Trash
[19:21] <Acoustyk> h00k: I thought so too but I've changed themes and it still has the same problem.
[19:21] <h00k> Acoustyk: ask the channel, somebody else might be better to help you
[19:22] <wrapster> geekphreak: trash was empty all the while
[19:22] <geekphreak> wrapster: thats great then
[19:22] <libertiy> thats a nice one i have been using it before but this time only need a qmail solution i already have dns in my panel :P
[19:22] <Luther> About how much drive space does the initial install of Ubuntu require?
[19:22] <libertiy> perhaps something like qmail toaster
[19:22] <libertiy> anyone have been using qmail toaster on ubuntu?
[19:22] <erUSUL> !requirements | Luther
[19:23] <libertiy> i actually come from centos, but ubuntu was installed and uses less memory so its fine with me
[19:23] <Luther> Thanks
[19:23] <Luther> How should I install Ubuntu so that GRUB is not installed?
[19:23] <libertiy> ubuntu under what core does that fall actually? fedora?
[19:24] <h00k> libertiy: Ubuntu is based off Debian
[19:24] <libertiy> okay nice :)
[19:24] <Luther> I want to install Ubuntu on an external harddrive, but I don't want the drive to be plugged in to use GRUB to boot the computer I installed from.
[19:25] <h00k> Luther: I'm not sure how you would boot that at all, then
[19:25] <Luther> I want to be able to plug the external drive into any computer, then boot from that drive into Ubuntu
[19:25] <llutz> Luther: just write grub to partition, not to mbr
[19:25] <h00k> Luther: you're going to need some sort of bootloader on that MBR, then
[19:25] <maginot> Luther, so... make you a custom usb ubuntu
[19:25] <geekphreak> Luther:  to boot you need a loader :)
[19:26] <mauro_> join #ubuntu+1
[19:26] <Luther> However, the last time I tried that, the computer I installed Ubuntu looked for GRUB and couldn't find it.
[19:26] <Deetaha> I am trying to install Sun Java through sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre and then I get a screen with <ok> at the bottom which I can't figure out how to click on!
[19:26] <maginot> Luther, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Live_USB_creator
[19:26] <geekphreak> Deetaha: you tab key to get to ok
[19:26] <geekphreak> use*
[19:26] <libertiy> hmm seems qmail toaster is not easy for ubuntu :s
[19:26] <libertiy> anyone has used it here on ubuntu?
[19:26] <Deetaha> *facepalms*
[19:26] <Luther> thanks, maginot
[19:27] <h00k> libertiy: you might try #ubuntu-server for server related questions
[19:27] <libertiy> okay thanks ill ask there
[19:27] <Deetaha> geekphreak: thankx a ton!
[19:27] <erUSUL> libertiy: default mta in ubuntu are postfix and exim
[19:27] <erUSUL> !mta
[19:27] <geekphreak> Deetaha: no worries
[19:27] <Cube``> anybody from portugal here?
[19:27] <nathan__> anybody here know how to reset the applications in the other with other applicatino list?
[19:27] <Pici> !pt | Cube``
[19:27] <Cube``> ah awesome thanks
[19:27] <Cube``> just needed some help with pronounciation :)
[19:28] <nathan__> it's got so many old programs in it, andf I can't remove any
[19:28] <nathan__> quite a few duplicates too
[19:28] <ikonia> nathan__: what ?
[19:29] <libertiy> hmm so on ubuntu you have exim and postfix  are there any easy deployments for that maybe? then i just follow that
[19:29] <nathan__> go to "open with other application" when you right lick on a file
[19:29] <ikonia> nathan__: if you remove the application it should go
[19:29] <nathan__> it doesn't
[19:29] <ikonia> nathan__: that's a gconf setting
[19:29] <nathan__> I have 3 entries for Bluefish, things like that
[19:29] <ikonia> nathan__: it's a drag but you'll have to search gconf for the entries
[19:30] <nathan__> couldn't find any
[19:30] <nathan__> Time for a long trip
[19:30] <gurjeet> Hi Guys.. I am having a problem install a perl module using CPAN. It keeps looking for an old version of the URI module. How can I make it install the lates bersion of the module?
[19:30] <gurjeet> In config.pm urllist is set to ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/pub/CPAN/, and when I do perl -MCPAN -e 'install URI::Escape' I get No such file `URI-1.37.tar.gz'. I can see that ftp://mirrors.kernel.org//pub/CPAN/authors/id/G/GA/GAAS/ has URI-1.54.tar.gz . So the question is, how do I make perl choose the latest version of the module?
[19:30] <Deetaha> I am trying to run a java application and I get "Java is GCJ.. looking for Sun Java..", what do?
[19:30] <nathan__> is there any way to delete folders/entries in gconf?
[19:31] <benkevan> still no go with gfxmode of 1024x768.. hummmm
[19:31] <erUSUL> libertiy: use "tasksel" to select mail server ...
[19:31] <ZykoticK9> Deetaha, are you using Lucid?
[19:31] <joesin> morning all... question about evolution mail... cannot pull read emails from the server on initial setup
[19:32] <nathan__> Seems more like an issue that gconf doesnt delete the entries
[19:32] <ki____> Firefox, file->quit. It never closes the firefox-bin process although the GUI closes, then I get an error when trying to re-open it that firefox is already open: "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system"
[19:32] <harry-houdini1> anyone know why bootchart doesnt load after install? is there a bug that anyone knows of ...i cant find an existing bug..but...
[19:32] <h00k> harry-houdini1: logs of bootchart are created at /var/log/bootchart
[19:32] <geekphreak> time to go, catch you later, have a good one all :)
[19:32] <joesin> can someone help with an evolution mail issue please?
[19:33] <h00k> !anyone | joesin
[19:33] <harry-houdini1> thanks h00k
[19:33] <h00k> harry-houdini1: is it creating them?
[19:34] <buttons840> is it possible to make gnome start upon login rather than on boot?   IE; i will see a simple terminal prompt for login rather than the gui login screen, upon login gnome will start and present the desktop?
[19:34] <joesin> dban'd and started over the other day... set up my gmail account today with evolution... pulls email from server fine, but does not pull read mail... last time I set this up it did... spent an hour reading and have not found a solution yet...
[19:34] <vestel> quit
[19:35] <idlemind> buttons840: you'll need to set your default run-level to 3
[19:36] <idlemind> buttons840: that will allow you to login in at the command prompt and you can execute it from there
[19:36] <Hariharakadan> Firefox is starting to get annoying :/ Its been closing every 30 seconds after the process has started. Anyone else dealing with that issue?
[19:36] <ZykoticK9> !runlevels > idlemind
[19:36] <Hariharakadan> More like crashing.
[19:36] <buttons840> idlemind, so x starts at run level 4?     anything else that will be disabled?
[19:36] <Pici> !runlevels | buttons840
[19:36] <ZykoticK9> buttons840, if you want to disable GDM from starting on Karmic see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/boot-to-console---disable-graphical-login-gdm
[19:37] <Pici> buttons840: If you don't want X to start at boot, then you should disable the gdm service: sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[19:37] <idlemind> ahh guess i was wrong on that one ... didn't know that they moved off of that
[19:37] <Pici> buttons840: You may need a --force at the end of that too.
[19:37] <Plugh> The use of Upstart makes me wonder how one starts the system in what used to be run level 3 (ie. no X)
[19:37] <Deetaha> How can I remove gcj?
[19:37] <erUSUL> Pici: that wont work anymore... gdm is now a upstart service
[19:38] <Pici> erUSUL: It should work in Karmic.
[19:38] <ishijoe> hi there.
[19:38] <Pici> erUSUL: shouldn't it?
[19:38] <buttons840> Pici, how would i start it again after disabling it?
[19:38] <ishijoe> i have an issue with my lucid.when i shutdown or reboot it sends me to the login screen.any help
[19:38] <Pici> buttons840: service gdm start
[19:38] <Pici> ishijoe : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[19:39] <iceroot> ishijoe: #ubuntu+1
[19:39] <erUSUL> Pici: afaik it does not you have to edit /etc/init/gdm.conf and comment lines 9-12 or something like that
[19:40] <nathan__> weirdly enough, crtl alt f1 - f6 don't work
[19:40] <erUSUL> Pici: but did not check myself
[19:40] <nathan__> I get a tiny bit of text at the top of the screen
[19:40] <joesin> Evolution mail help retrieving all emails on server rather then un-read please!
[19:40] <nathan__> hmm
[19:41] <Losha> Plugh: I've successfully started a system without X on 8.04 by simply renaming the gdm binaries. On 9.X I found this didn't work as well, since something in gdm setup seemed needed to get sound working. Go figure...
[19:41] <buttons840> Pici, is there an easy way to run a command at login?  i know there is the sessions in the startup applications gui, but what file(s) does that gui tool work with?
[19:42] <Plugh> Losha, that would be one way to do it. Kind of nasty compared to asking for runlevel 3 on instead of 5
[19:42] <Plugh> And the need to remind yourself to change the name back later
[19:43] <KukMan> Hi. I got problem with Wacom Tablet : wacom pen & touch. I user 9.10 ubuntu. Defaults packages xserver-xorg-input-wacom and wacom-tools, and wacom.ko from new driver ( 0.8.6. )
[19:43] <KukMan> http://pastebin.ca/1868284 - this is xidump -l
[19:43] <zoidfarb> Hey, does anyone know how to disable ssh-agent?
[19:43] <erUSUL> buttons840: use ~/.profile ?
[19:43] <KukMan> but xsetwacom list write nothing
[19:43] <ZykoticK9> buttons840, if you're still talking about starting xorg -- "startx" is the command and will start what you specifiy in .xinitrc
[19:44] <KukMan> and, I got eight ( 8 ) wacom devices
[19:44] <Losha> Plugh: I agree, but the runlevels stuff is ruined on ubuntu, and there's no longer an inittab to edit. Server editions run without X, so I assume there is some workaround but I never had the patience to find it and went back to 8.04...
[19:44] <h00k> KukMan: I don't know, but try to keep all questions on one line
[19:44] <KukMan> h00k, ok ;)
[19:45] <ZykoticK9> buttons840, to start GDM run "sudo service gdm start"
[19:45] <Losha> zoidfarb: not quite what you asked, but ssh-add -D is supposed to delete all identities from the agent.
[19:46] <zoidfarb> Losha, that might do the trick. I'd rather not have ssh-agent running at all. (I'm trying test something)
[19:47] <Aciid> how do I get Ubuntu One Music Store for Karmic?
[19:47] <Losha> zoidfarb: you might be able to just kill it, or edit out the thing that starts it (*if* you can find it....)
[19:47] <zoidfarb> Losha, you can't seem to kill, because it just kills that one instance, and then a new one starts
[19:48] <zoidfarb> Losha, I followed this info: http://www.rekk.de/bloggy/2008/ssh-on-ubuntu-shh-agent-is-running-per-default/
[19:48] <zoidfarb> and commented out the line in /etc/X11/Xsession.options
[19:48] <zoidfarb> but it still autostarted
[19:48] <sigmonsays> Is there a place to wget a complete base install in a tarball form? like gentoo stage3 ?
[19:49] <Plugh> Losha: I've had to switch to level 3 on occasion when the X config got messed up. The move to Upstart is a bit like adding Pulse audio in the sound system. I had no problem with run levels or audio until Upstart and PulseAudio were added.
[19:49] <erUSUL> !rquirements
[19:49] <Losha> Plugh: and so say all of us. Trust me, you're not alone....
[19:49] <zoidfarb> Plugh, I generally agree about Puleadio, but Upstart has actually seemed a lot faster for me
[19:49] <Oer> Aciid, ubuntu music store plugins are only available for lucid
[19:50] <Losha> zoidfarb: temporarily rename /usr/bin/ssh-agent to /usr/bin/ssh-agent.orig. *That* should fix it...
[19:50] <Aciid> Oer: nvm, i already got it working
[19:50] <zoidfarb> Losha, haha, I hadn't even considered going nuclear on it like that. Good idea. However, as I understand it, ssh-agent launches GNOME (and everything else on the system) as a client to itself.
[19:51] <zoidfarb> Losha, is renaming it going to brutally break my system?
[19:51] <Plugh> zoidfarb: Not sure how it made the boot faster but booting is faster. It still has to run all the files that used to be in init.d so I'm not sure what it does differently. Something to look in to later.
[19:51] <debabrata_> what might be the problem if Ubuntu not able to recognise my Ethernet device
[19:51] <Plugh> debabrata_: missing device driver (ie. no kernel module loaded for the device).
[19:51] <Losha> zoidfarb: I won't like to you, I can't guarantee it won't stop X coming up. Might be better off with -D then...
[19:51] <Losha> zoidfarb: like -> lie
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[19:52] <erUSUL> debabrata_: you have to manually load the driver or there is no driver for it
[19:52] <erUSUL> debabrata_: lspci | grep -i net
[19:52] <Plugh> debabrata_: what device do you have?
[19:55] <debabrata_> its IBM thinkpad
[19:55] <GroupingClearSky> here is a girl?
[19:55] <zoidfarb> haha, so much for this:
[19:55] <zoidfarb> $ ssh-add -D
[19:55] <zoidfarb> All identities removed.
[19:55] <zoidfarb> $ ssh-add -L
[19:55] <zoidfarb> ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAIEAqB......
[19:55] <FloodBot3> zoidfarb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:56] <Losha> zoidfarb: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent checks to see if /usr/bin/ssh-agent exists first, so going nuclear will probably do 'the right thing', assuming ubuntu hasn't completely instituted some new mechanism....
[19:56] <zoidfarb> Losha, that sounds good
[19:56] <jef91> Since upgrading my kernel to the .21 revision my nvidia kernel module is failing to install properly (both installing from the .run file and trying to install through synaptic...) Any suggestions? (The ubuntu+1 channel is dead, hoping to get a solution here)
[19:56] <Losha> zoidfarb: seems like nothing works the way the docs say it should these days...
[19:57] <iceroot> jef91: no lucid-sipport here
[19:57] <Losha> GroupingClearSky: no, here is computer support...]
[19:58] <maco> GroupingClearSky: "here a girl there a girl every where..." wait are we singing Old McDonald?  please stay on topic
[19:59] <incorrect> oh dear package.medibuntu.org seems to be off line
[19:59] <Losha> jef91: 418 people on #ubuntu+1 is hardly a 'dead' channel...
[19:59] <Losha> maco: geeks are so sad sometimes...
[20:01] <Losha> incorrect: hopefully a temporary situation...
[20:01] <incorrect> Losha, ah that is good to know
[20:01] <ascheel> scunizi: you're killin me man.  :)  I gotta know if it worked!
[20:01] <incorrect> i wish i had gotten round to making a local mirror
[20:01] <Losha> incorrect: I know, but you can't mirror it all....
[20:02] <incorrect> Losha, just mediabuntu, just current revision
[20:02] <incorrect> and binary only
[20:02] <zoidfarb> Losha, thanks for the help. I've renamed ssh-agent, and I'm gonna try rebooting
[20:02] <antares> !list
[20:03] <Losha> incorrect: are there no existing mirrors of medibuntu packages? That seems unusual....
[20:03] <incorrect> how is making a mirror of a repository file sharing?
[20:03] <Losha> incorrect: that was ubottu's reply to antares for typing !list
[20:03] <incorrect> oh
[20:04] <GroupingClearSky> I'm from Russia heard about this country?
[20:04] <incorrect> pants, oh well i have what i need from their on my laptop
[20:05] <hugo> hi
[20:05] <Losha> incorrect: see http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html
[20:05] <hugo> how are you?
[20:06] <Losha> GroupingClearSky: yes, heard of it. But we have no girls for you here. Just ubuntu computer support....
[20:06] <osiris> Good evening never land
[20:06] <zoidfarb> @Losha, ~$ ssh-add -l 1024 97:53:41:95:c0:b8:11:a6:fa:41:cb:68:d9:fd:38:d8 user@TinyTim (RSA  )2048 f6:4e:00:7c:59:5e:84:4f:44:38:7d:61:3c:d8:be:4b user@tinytim (RSA)
[20:06] <c3l> okay is there some powerful, slim and good to handle different playlists, music player out there? i guess Im looking for something similar to foobar2k that is available for windows. amarok and rythmbox are just clumsy, slow and huge, and yes I already know about mpd. looking for something not dependent on some database over the music
[20:07] <GroupingClearSky> » Losha » well all ponel
[20:07] <incorrect> thanks Losha !
[20:07] <zoidfarb> Losha, somehow renaming /usr/bin/ssh-agent didn't seem to do the trick
[20:07] <osiris> c3l: Have you tried Songbird?
[20:07] <Losha> zoidfarb: bummer. Seems like there's no stopping it. Run ps -ax and see what binary is running....
[20:08] <Losha> !ru | GroupingClearSky
[20:08] <c3l> osiris, have not. thanks for the tip, ill check it out =)
[20:08] <stoneman> I have one question but there is very much text... Any for private???
[20:08] <osiris> c3l: No problem, I love it myself :)
[20:09] <Losha> stoneman: write it to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and then send us the url...
[20:09] <stoneman> ok
[20:09] <osiris> c3l: http://www.getsongbird.com/
[20:09] <acovrig> can I share bluetooth from 1 ubuntu to another via bluetooth?
[20:10] <c3l> osiris, it sure looks interesting, thanks! =)
[20:10] <joesin> evolution email issues...
[20:10] <joesin> still looking for assistance please
[20:10] <zoidfarb> Losha, I'm wondering if some kind of Gnome keyring thing is holding these identities
[20:10] <entplex> anyone else happen to be using the packages.medibuntu.org repos?  They appear to currently be down, can someone validate this for me?
[20:11] <hypn0> entplex, me too
[20:11] <zoidfarb> ~$ "ps aux | grep agent" gives /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent
[20:11] <costre> who, oh why, is *.img an unsupported format for brasero?
[20:11] <c3l> osiris, how come this is not in the repos?
[20:11] <acovrig> can I share bluetooth from 1 ubuntu to another via bluetooth?
[20:11] <Losha> zoidfarb: that makes even less sense. Why usurp ssh-agent's function into yet another application? Did you run ps -ax ?
[20:11] <entplex> thanks hypn0, maybe i'll shoot a e-mail to the maintainer
[20:11] <Pici> entplex, hypn0: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html
[20:12] <stoneman> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/qnHzKbHN
[20:12] <Losha> entplex: hypn0:  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html
[20:12] <entplex> Pici, yay for mirror! Thanks!
[20:12] <osiris> c3l: No Idea to be honest. I have been using it since the beta days
[20:12] <robyn> hello
[20:13] <zoidfarb> Losha, ps -ax gives a ton of output, I'll throw it in pastebin if you're interested. But it doesn't seem like ssh-agent is running.
[20:13] <Losha> Pici beat me to it...
[20:13] <jubi> which is the irc ubuntu-es ? anybody knows??
[20:13] <robyn> i have a problem with automount on ubuntu karmic
[20:13] <Hariharakadan> !es | jubi
[20:13] <robyn> after the last update automounting usb drives wont work anymore
[20:13] <Losha> zoidfarb: yes, please stick it in pastebin. I'd like to see it...
[20:13] <jubi> graciasª
[20:13] <robyn> with pmount it works but i want automount back :(
[20:14] <Hariharakadan> :)
[20:14] <joesin> ok... ill try on my own again...
[20:14] <widar> Hello, I got a little problem concerning the bash autocompletion and symbolic links:
[20:14] <joesin> thanks anyways all..
[20:15] <c3l> hey admins and repo responsible ppl why isnt songbird in the repos? =)
[20:15] <dekroning> what's the name of the current ubuntu release?
[20:15] <acovrig> why can't I mount /dev/hda1 /media/disk >/dev/null to have it hide output?
[20:15] <zleap> erm
[20:15] <zleap> karmic
[20:15] <stoneman> any help: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/qnHzKbHN
[20:15] <zleap> i think
[20:15] <zleap> next one is lucid lynx
[20:15] <dekroning> k thanx
[20:15] <acovrig> ?
[20:16] <osiris> dekroning: Karmic Koala
[20:16] <dekroning> osiris: thanks
[20:16] <antibody> !clone
[20:16] <widar> There is /a -> /mnt/b . If I change to /a and try cd ../ and hitting the [tab] key, it sometimes shows me whats inside / , sometimes the containments of /mnt/b. How can I force bash to behave consistently?
[20:16] <zoidfarb> @Losha, http://pastebin.org/159571
[20:16] <mezimezim> Question on Vinagre: I would like to access my friend's computer located in another city, to help him configure, can I use Vinagre for that?
[20:16] <crucialhoax> I am writing a script that will install java from the .bin download, I have to manually type yes during the install, is there a way to make the script wait for that input or is that auto?
[20:17] <llutz> crucialhoax: why not using the sun-java from repos?
[20:17] <Losha> zoidfarb: I don't see any sign of ssh-agent. I wonder now if ssh-add is lying to you (instead of me :-)
[20:18] <stoneman> Losha: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/qnHzKbHN
[20:18] <Losha> stoneman: looks like a key of some sort. Have you edited any startup files recently? A typo might easily cause this...
[20:18] <crucialhoax> llutz, It is old. I like to use the newest one. One of the commands is ./jre-x-x-x-x then after that I have to input "yes" but in the script I have another command after that
[20:18] <llutz> crucialhoax: look at the "yes"  command, it might help
[20:18] <zoidfarb> Losha, ssh-add definitely seems to lie to me before. When it claimed all the identities were deleted, and then "ssh-add -l" still shows a bunch
[20:19] <crucialhoax> llutz, thanks :)
[20:19] <Losha> zoidfarb: what about the thing you were testing. Does it behave as though there are no keys?
[20:19] <ARTSIOM> HI All!
[20:19] <ARTSIOM> tring to install sun-java6-jdk package on 10.04 64bit and getting no installation candiadte found error (multiverse is enebled in sources list, had also tried apt-get update). Any ideas?
[20:19] <Pici> ARTSIOM : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[20:20] <zoidfarb> Losha, no, it behaves as though it's taking the keys automatically from ssh-agent. But the box I'm going to be running the script on *doesn't* have ssh-agent, so I wanted my desktop to behave similarly.
[20:20] <stoneman> Losha I think that nothing has changed, I am new in ubuntu world...
[20:20] <Xeross> Why can't I do ./script.py on a symlinked script
[20:21] <G_A_C> Xeross: is the target script +x?
[20:21] <Losha> zoidfarb: I understand. Currently we're batting zeros unfortunately....
[20:21] <Xeross> G_A_C: I assumed it was, but guess what :P
[20:21] <G_A_C> :)
[20:22] <zoidfarb> Losha, thanks a lot for your advice. I'm pretty stumped. I'm going to try killing some Gnome keyring stuff. If that doesn't work, I'll probably just try to mount the remote box with sshfs and develop over there.
[20:23] <Losha> stoneman: Try an experiment. Open a terminal and type 'bash -x .bashrc' and see if you get the same message...
[20:23] <crucialhoax> llutz, I did not need the yes command I suppose :) it worked like a charm :D
[20:23] <zoidfarb> Losha, just found this, which is possibly relevant: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/Ssh
[20:23] <ZykoticK9> ARTSIOM, /join #ubuntu+1 -- and i'll explain
[20:25] <Losha> zoidfarb: that would do it. Isn't it great how the gnome people take it on themselves to duplicate the work of other programs. Soon the will be masters of the universe!
[20:25] <karol_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:25] <karol_> bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
[20:25] <karol_> cccccccccccccccc
[20:25] <karol_> dddddddddddddddddddd
[20:25] <FloodBot3> karol_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <Pici> karol_: Please stop
[20:25] <Eddy> hello
[20:25] <zoidfarb> Losha, We are GNOME. Your technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.
[20:26] <stoneman> Losha: yes i got the same!!
[20:26] <karol_> Pici: why should I? I want to prove that I know the alphabet :>
[20:26] <znxtch> Personal opinions...favorite IRC client for Ubuntu?
[20:26] <Pici> karol_: This is the Ubuntu support channel, not a space to be random.
[20:26] <zoidfarb> znxtch, I just use gaim
[20:26] <Myrtti> !best | znxtch
[20:26] <stoneman> and some more ... but yes it's same
[20:27] <karol_> znxtch: It;s sometimes laggs a bit but it's OK for now
[20:27] <Losha> stoneman: ok, so the problem is in your .bashrc file. Try cut&paste lines from there into another window until you find the line that gives the error. I will be back in about 90 minutes...
[20:27] <karol_> znxtch: you can download another IRC client if you wish to :<
[20:27] <Eddy> im trying to install GNUworld and aim comfiguring postgresql i get this at the end :  configure: WARNING: option ignored: --with-CXX
[20:27] <znxtch> I just wondered what the "standard" was.
[20:27] <barberan> ðóññêèå åñòü ?
[20:28] <widar> Hm, seems there is noone able to respond to my question concerning symbolic links and auto completion?
[20:28] <Losha> zoidfarb: I wanna slap 'em so hard...
[20:28] <karol_> znxtch: you should use windows IRC client MIRC :P then you would tell that this IRC client is awesome
[20:28] <gnomeye> y
[20:29] <barberan> ta-ta for now
[20:30] <maciek_> Witam
[20:30] <karol_> How can I turn off these msgs like " somebody quit the irc client etc.) it's annoying
[20:30] <karol_> maciek_: Witam Maćku
[20:30] <widar> CU
[20:31] <guntbert> karol_: that depends on your irc client
[20:31] <karol_> guntbert: irc x chat gnome
[20:31] <Luther> I need help using usb-creator-gtk
[20:32] <trevor> hello, first time using linux :)
[20:32] <guntbert> karol_: when you right click on a channel tab -- dou get any options?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> !usb | Luther
[20:32] <brontosaurusrexw> karol_: rmb on channel tab, Settings
[20:32] <karol_> ll
[20:32] <karol_> thanks
[20:33] <karol_> so may I now impress everybody with my knowlange about alphabet?
[20:33] <karol_> karol_: "I'm so proud of you"
[20:34] <cfedde> tell me more!
[20:34] <guntbert> karol_: please keep to the topic of this channel: ubuntu support
[20:34] <Gremnon> got a bit of a relic of a laptop here. Trying to do as much as I can with it, which means the WM/DE needs to take up as little resources as possible. I've narrowed the choices to Enlightenment and LXDE, and trying to decide which is lighter
[20:34] <karol_> Ahh and another thing
[20:35] <clrg> Gremnon: XFCE?
[20:35] <llutz> Gremnon: use df, free, ps, htop to decide
[20:35] <kacper> #ubuntu-pl
[20:35] <rlima> hello everybody
[20:35] <Gremnon> clrg, I've already tried XFCE, it's good, but it can't match LXDE or Enlightenment
[20:35] <zoidfarb> Losha, FYI, disabling that "feature" in Gnome and then restarting X11/Gnome did finally do the trick
[20:35] <karol_> I have an old PC: I wanted to install there UBUNTU 9.10 but the installation didn't even started
[20:35] <karol_> there was any error
[20:36] <Gremnon> llutz, that's what I've be using, but either I need to interpret the results better, or I just don't get it
[20:36] <clrg> karol_: What did the error message say? And what kind of computer was it, a PowerPC processor perhaps?
[20:36] <karol_> clrg: Intel 450 mhz ^^ 512 simm ram and that's all
[20:37] <nanajoth> How would I install ubuntu on an external drive?
[20:37] <karol_> clrg: there was no error msg... something appeared but then disspeared... thats all
[20:37] <karol_> clrg: I don't know what was written there cause it suddenly disappeared
[20:37] <ZykoticK9> Gremnon, looks like LXDE is a little lighter on memory then XFCE - article using 10.04 comparing DEs at http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=1
[20:37] <karol_> clrg: :/
[20:37] <clrg> karol_: So Ubuntu tried to boot but crashed. Did you do a full memtest?
[20:37] <guntbert> karol_: did you check the iso before burning?
[20:37] <karol_> clrg: yes
[20:37] <karol_> guntbert: yes
[20:37] <karol_> :P
[20:38] <karol_> I've checked this at all
[20:38] <Xpistos|work> Do anyone have a favorite email client, I am looking to switch but don't know what to go with?
[20:38] <Gremnon> ZykoticK9, I've reached that already, I'm trying to compare LXDE to Enlightenment (aka E17)
[20:38] <clrg> Xpistos: Thunderbird
[20:38] <karol_> It was something like "couldn't display ... -> ... mean i don't know what was written there":>
[20:38] <ZykoticK9> Gremnon, i haven't got a comparison of those two i'm affraid -- best of luck
[20:38] <clrg> karol_: Did you try another distribution? Could also be a hardware problem.
[20:38] <Xpistos|work> clrg: I want one with antivirus support and new versions of thundbird don't have it
[20:39] <karol_> clrg: tried but half of distros didn't worked
[20:39] <clrg> Xpistos: What do you need antivirus for??
[20:39] <Xpistos|work> clrg: to be on the safe side
[20:39] <karol_> clrg: I can use pirated windows but it's slower and illegal
[20:39] <ZykoticK9> Xpistos|work, you'll be hard pressed to find one with antivirus included...
[20:39] <karol_> clrg: at least windows installs at all
[20:39] <Xpistos|work> Am I just being to paranoid?
[20:39] <monofonik> yes you are
[20:39] <ZykoticK9> !virus | Xpistos|work
[20:40] <amani> ubuntu new version will be relese soon is it true??
[20:40] <clrg> karol_: Sounds like your PC is *really* old.. Maybe there's a problem with the graphics driver. Have you tried booting without the gui?
[20:40] <monofonik> amani: yes
[20:40] <sean_> ./
[20:40] <ZykoticK9> amani, 10 days from today
[20:40] <karol_> clrg: not really
[20:40] <monofonik> in like a week and a half
[20:40] <Maletor> Something awful has happened. I installed lucid packages and on reboot I get: "/dev/md0: clean, 174/24096 files, 24944/96256 blocks"            "[    14.218611] usplash:425 freeing invalid memtype fffffffffff900000000 - fffffffffff9e0000." What do I do!? This is an emergency!
[20:40] <_ryuurei> What kind of changes can we expect from the new uptdate?
[20:40] <monofonik> hey i have a question
[20:40] <monofonik> i'm running 10.04 beta2 with all updates
[20:40] <amani> then i have to install new version..
[20:40] <guntbert> !lucid | Maletor
[20:40] <ZykoticK9> Maletor, #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support
[20:40] <enthusiast> Lucid is very great
[20:40] <Pici> monofonik: #ubuntu+1 please
[20:40] <Xpistos|work> ZykoticK9: I know linux doesn't but I get email from people using windows and we all know how that goes. I don't want to spread anything
[20:40] <toad_> there are known remote root's in mantis 1.1. have they been fixed in ubuntu's mantis package, or will it remain vulnerable until lucid?
[20:40] <karol_> clrg: how much of disk space takes the installation of ubuntu without any additional soft?
[20:41] <guntbert> enthusiast: #ubuntu+1 please
[20:41] <rsr> how can I force an update to a package in 9.10? I wan´t to install gnash 0.8.7. The repositories only have 0.8.6
[20:41] <clrg> karol_: I'd say 4-5GB. If you cut it down, maybe 3
[20:41] <javatexan> ubuntu running on mac mini
[20:41] <ZykoticK9> Xpistos|work, i just don't think you'll find a linux email client with anti-virus is all.
[20:41] <Xpistos|work> ok
[20:41] <enthusiast> Karol_: about 5 GB at least
[20:41] <Xpistos|work> I guess I will stick with thunderbird
[20:41] <Pici> !requirements | karol_
[20:41] <javatexan> ubuntu running on mac mini???
[20:42] <karol_> clrg: then it's not really for my comp
[20:42] <BluesKaj> !virus | Xpistos|work
[20:42] <karol_> clrg: 1,5 GB ~ HD?
[20:42] <clrg> Xpistos: You won't. Even if you do receive a virus, it won't be able to execute on Linux and do any harm.
[20:42] <karol_> clrg: so what distro can I use?:<
[20:42] <jubi> hi! the my sister's ubuntu don't shut down. it go away of the grafic interface but it stys in a black back that says " ubuntu 9.10 victoria-desktop tty " /n " victoria_desktop login: [24156.80332] System halted. " and it doesn't do anything else,  i proved shutdown with sudo halt , sudo poweroff , sudo shutdown -h now , and al of it goes to the same.. anybody have an idea how to fix it?? since now i'm very thank you
[20:42] <Xpistos|work> thanks guys
[20:42] <enthusiast> Karol:, Five (5) GB may be sufficient
[20:42] <clrg> karol_: Damn Small Linux, maybe Xubuntu
[20:43] <amani> in my boot screen there show two linux kernal what to do?
[20:43] <sean_> ./cat
[20:43] <Gremnon> amani, choose the one with the highest version number, that does not have (Recovery Mode) on the end
[20:43] <brummbaer> amani, pick the one that works. ;)
[20:43] <Gremnon> or that
[20:43] <enthusiast> Karol, Even Ubuntu 10.04 does't require tonnes of hard drive space.
[20:44] <amani> can i uninstall them
[20:44] <karol_> clrg: damn small linux is just shitty
[20:44] <clrg> karol_: I just checked Xubuntu, they say you need 2.0GB
[20:44] <guntbert> !language | karol_
[20:44] <karol_> clrg: you know what happends with DSL ? it just doesn't save any configuration
[20:44] <Pici> toad_: Do you have a CVE for the mantis issue?
[20:44] <clrg> karol_: What are you going to need the PC for?
[20:45] <karol_> clrg: server
[20:45] <Pici> karol_: We do not support anything other than Ubuntu here, if you need advice for other distros, please use ##linux
[20:45] <realcoolguy> amani: the newest one is the default option, You can leave them on there without wasting too much space.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think Ubuntu does a better job of cleaning out older versions for you now? (so you won't get a list of 30, but you'll have a couple in case something went wrong with a kernel update, you can pick an older version)
[20:45] <jubi> ..
[20:45] <enthusiast> Ubottu: thanks for reminding us the rules
[20:45] <clrg> karol_: Then use Ubuntu Server Edition. Should take less disk space, since there's no need for a GUI
[20:45] <karol_> Pici: you know what? I'm not talking with you so could you keep that to yourself?
[20:46] <karol_> clrg: I will try to do it
[20:46] <clrg> karol_: But seriously; a server with a 450MHz processor? The users will hate you
[20:46] <karol_> clrg: anyway thanks for help
[20:46] <karol_> clrg: Everybody hates me :D
[20:47] <enthusiast> Can someone show me how to tell grub 2 from listing my recovery partition in it's boot list at start up. This may prevent accidental PC restore...
[20:47] <rsr> can anyone help me install the newest version of gnash?
[20:47] <sab> i was trying to install startupmanage but its giving me this msg....E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[20:47] <Gremnon> sab: then run that command in a terminal to correct it, and it should work again
[20:47] <clrg> rsr: Why don't you use VLC to play SWF videos?
[20:47] <ZykoticK9> sab, do as the error suggests: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[20:48] <rsr> clrg, because it isnt a video
[20:48] <clrg> rsr: "sudo apt-get install gnash"
[20:49] <nanajoth> Can someone point me to a how to for installing ubuntu on an external drive?
[20:49] <rsr> I know how to install a package,  packages in the repositories are all outdated
[20:49] <powertool08> enthusiast: The easy way is to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg as root and delete the entry, however, it will most likely come back after a kernel update. Not sure how to stop that.
[20:49] <Pici> rsr: Yes, they are outdated. And they most likely won't be updated.
[20:49] <Pici> !latest | rsr
[20:49] <sab> ZykoticK9, getting this erro..http://paste.ubuntu.com/418819/;can you please tell me what to do?
[20:49] <Gremnon> rsr, if you really want the latest, and don't want to have to wait for it to be packaged, have a look at the GNash website and read how to compile it from source
[20:49] <ZykoticK9> rsr, you can search https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas for an updated version
[20:50] <toad_> Pici: it looks like Mantis doesn't generally ask for CVEs. :( there are however many XSS attacks mentioned in the 1.2 changelog and 1.1 is now officially unmaintained: http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/changelog_page.php
[20:50] <Next1> I have a weird thing going on.  If I type the word transducer in google search in firefox or chrome the browser will disappear. It crashes without a trace.  Anyone heard of this?
[20:50] <rsr> thanks
[20:50] <ZykoticK9> sab, sorry haven't run into that java problem before - but looks like you have some manual downloading to do as the pastebin suggests
[20:50] <enthusiast> powertool08: thanks. I'm still looking for a way to mask my recovery partition from grub 2...
[20:51] <sab> ZykoticK9, what can be the sol?
[20:51] <SGubuntu> nanajoth, here's a good link to check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[20:51] <Kangarooo> ok im thinking about making new distro where could i find page where is also FVM and other light window manager screenshots like in http://www.boxshots.org/style/ but with rating and filtering by window manager
[20:51] <ZykoticK9> sab, i know as much as you do
[20:51] <realcoolguy> Next1: try launching firefox from the terminal, just type firefox.  Do your search and see if there's any hint on why it exited.
[20:51] <sab> getting this erro..http://paste.ubuntu.com/418819/;can anyone please tell me what to do?
[20:53] <clrg> sab: Visit the URL provided and download the file as suggested
[20:53] <Pici> toad_: I don't see anything newer than 1.1.x in Debian, and since we import from debian, we're not going to get 1.2 in karmic OR lucid any time soon.  I highly suggest that you file a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mantis and poke the Ubuntu and/or Debian maintainers.
[20:53] <Next1> realcoolguy: It crashed but the terminal just went back to the standard prompt . Syslog says   Apr 19 14:04:17 kernel: [  935.196269] firefox-bin[7635]: segfault at acf5a1dc eip b77b1ab7 esp acf4e320 error 6
[20:53] <Stalafin> friend of mine who is on ubuntu tries to figure out how to turn off the blinking cursor in his terminal;
[20:53] <Stalafin> how would you do that?
[20:54] <realcoolguy> Next1: Any other system instabilities? Random crashes?  I'd look to running a memtest
[20:54] <crucialhoax> I am using Intel graphics and when I drag a screen or move it slightly the text blurs a little, is that normal?
[20:54] <WXZ> is there a way to have multiple desktops
[20:55] <Next1> realcoolguy: Everything seems fine. I rebooted just to see and it still does it.  I'll start a mem test before I go home tonight.
[20:55] <Pici> Stalafin: Take a look at the manpage for setterm, I think what you want is in there.
[20:55] <WXZ> like on each diff. workspace a new panel layout and desktop
[20:55] <bondiblueos9> is there any way to copy a file such that if there is an error the partial destination file is removed?
[20:55] <realcoolguy> Next1: I guess you can try launching from the boot-cd and get a clean environment, that might help narrow your problem down to hardware or software.
[20:55] <Stalafin> Pici: likely; however, where is the info saved?
[20:56] <Stalafin> Pici: i guess setterm -blank off; where can i make that permanent though? i guess bashrc, but for example in my distri the default seems to be off anyhow
[20:56] <bondiblueos9> I'm cp ing files from discs that are scratched-up, and I only want to keep the fully successfully copied files; and I'm trying to automate it
[20:56] <sab> getting this erro..http://paste.ubuntu.com/418819/;can anyone please tell me what to do?...I am really new in linux(ubuntu) so dont know what to do need help
[20:56] <MilkmanDan> When it's said that Desktop LTS gets 3 years of support and Server gets 5, does that mean that the Desktop-y apps like Gnome/KDE and browsers are what drops off the update list?  Or is there something deeper going on?
[20:56] <Next1> realcoolguy: Very strange, just the word transducer??? I'll test everything out.
[20:56] <clrg> sab: Visit the URL provided and download the file as suggested. The message tells you exactly what do do!
[20:57] <Pici> Stalafin: I'm not sure where it would be saved, if at all.  I'd stick it in your shell's rc file.
[20:57] <nanajoth> exit
[20:57] <nanajoth> tits
[20:57] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all, does anyone here know how to edit a PDF file in 2-column format to convert it to 1-column format?
[20:57] <realcoolguy> Next1: Haha, it's VERY strange if that's the word.. but that might be the combo to flip the set of bits your memory can't quite do at that one memory address...
[20:57] <sab> clrg, i hv already downloaded
[20:57] <jemark> medibuntu repo isn't working here
[20:57] <Pici> jemark: Its temporarily down
[20:57] <urthmover> question: Am I able to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 using "update-manager -d"  ?
[20:57] <jemark> also yesterday Pici
[20:58] <ZykoticK9> jemark, bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810 possible work-around at http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html
[20:58] <Pici> jemark: It was down yesterday too, right.
[20:58] <Pici> urthmover : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[20:58] <urthmover> ok Pici I'll ask in there
[20:58] <Next1> realcoolguy: Its a new one on me. :D Thanks for your help.
[20:59] <clrg> sab: Then open a terminal. Type "cd <path to your download folder>", then "mv <downloaded file> /tmp", then "cd /tmp", then "sudo chown root:root <downloaded file>"
[20:59] <bigbang12> how to format partition with ntfs from ubuntu
[21:00] <h00k> bigbang12: you can use gparted
[21:00] <clrg> bigbang12: Use windows to do that. No Linux operating system needs NTFS
[21:00] <clrg> h00k: gparted uses an old version of NTFS. Vista and 7 won't install on it and will try to format it again.
[21:01] <Next1> realcoolguy: I can't google the error because if I try it crashes.
[21:01] <levar> how do i install all packages
[21:02] <h00k> levar: why would you want to do that?
[21:02] <clrg> levar: Do you have 20TB of disk space?
[21:02] <levar> im new to linux sorry
[21:02] <Oer> 20Tb x 20
[21:02] <mneptok> levar: that's impossible, as some packages conflict with others.
[21:02] <brad_> so when I use the Gnome GUI to "share" a folder, is that going to use SMB (samba)?
[21:03] <clrg> levar: Just install the packages you need. You can't install everything.
[21:03] <ZykoticK9> brad_, yes
[21:03] <levar> does xubuntu have samba
[21:03] <h00k> levar: if you're new, you also might want to check out #ubuntu-beginners
[21:03] <clrg> brad_: Yes.
[21:03] <MilkmanDan> levar: All versions can install Samba, yes.
[21:03] <realcoolguy> Next1: you could try a non-graphical web browser, links, lynx, e-links to try and get around your google problem as a short term solution.
[21:04] <levar> how would i do it for xubuntu
[21:04] <sab> clrg, when i was typing mv ...../tmp its giving me this error....bash: mv jdk-6u20-linux-x64 /tmp: No such file or directory
[21:04] <MilkmanDan> levar: Same as for any other version.  Try starting with synaptic.
[21:04] <clrg> sab: Are you sure you are in the right directory? And did you type the filename correctly?
[21:05] <sab> clrg, yes i think so,
[21:05] <clrg> sab: If you type "ls", does your file show up?
[21:05] <sab> yes
[21:05] <Maletor> How can I uninstall propreitary nvidia drivers and install the ones ubuntu likes all from shell?
[21:05] <sab> clrg, yes
[21:06] <Richiie> Helllo i have a question
[21:06] <sab> clrg, sab@sab-laptop:~/Downloads$ ls
[21:06] <sab> jdk-6u20-linux-x64.bin  jdk-6u20-linux-x64-rpm.bin
[21:06] <ZykoticK9> !ask | Richiie
[21:06] <Richiie> is it possible in ubuntu to convert a NTFS external harddrive filsystem into Ext3 ?
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> Richiie, convert - no.  Reformat would be required
[21:07] <Next1> realcoolguy: That works, Thanks again.
[21:07] <clrg> sab: Try "mv jdk-6u20-linux-x64.bin /tmp"
[21:07] <iceroot> Richiie: no
[21:07] <llutz> Richiie: sure, with dataloss
[21:07] <Richiie> ah damn :/
[21:07] <h00k> Richiie: please keep the language family friendly
[21:07] <yshavit> Is there a way to set up dhcp such that each connection has its own "prepend domain-name-servers" line?
[21:08] <clrg> yshavit: I believe you can configure that in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:08] <levar> also i want to connect my xubuntu to an external monitor how would i do that
[21:08] <yshavit> clrg: I'll take a look, thanks.
[21:08] <sab> clrg, unfortunately its not working
[21:08] <frostburn> levar, plug it in, then go to system > pref > display
[21:08] <clrg> levar: Click on "System-Preferences-Display"
[21:09] <clrg> sab: Still the same message, no such file or directory?
[21:09] <sab> clrg, yes
[21:10] <levar> dont have that
[21:10] <levar> clrg i do not have that
[21:10] <FFForever> Is it possible to sync iphone os 3.1.3 with ubuntu?
[21:11] <clrg> sab: Well, I don't see why. If you are in the right directory, typed the filename correctly, and typed the target directory (/tmp) correctly, then it has to work. There must be an error.
[21:11] <guntbert> sab: did you try mv jdk<tab> ? should give you a large part of the file name
[21:11] <sab> guntbert, yes
[21:11] <yshavit> FFForever: I've found out how to connect my iPod Touch with 3.0, but I haven't found out a good syncing program
[21:11] <guntbert> sab: and what happened?
[21:12] <FFForever> yshavit, amarok or banshee would be nice
[21:12] <sab> guntbert, then i just write /tmp
[21:12] <yshavit> FFForever: yeah, unfortunately the solution I found doesn't work with those. And I forget right now what it was...
[21:12] <Maletor> Where does Ubuntu download the Ubuntu flavor of the nvidia driver it finds through Hardware Drivers?
[21:13] <BusMaster> I have some apps that leak memory. does it make sense to create a minimal virtual machine to run them in, let them leak and reboot the machine when its out of memory? I don't want to reboot my real machine
[21:13] <levar> cant connect to an external display who got the answer
[21:13] <yshavit> FFForever: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-connect-iphoneipod-touch-using-usbin-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[21:13] <piccardTE> hi, the fams in my laptop don't work i suspect is because sth replace bios hw management cose when in gub prompt they run properly, any ideas?
[21:13] <clrg> BusMaster: That would not be a guarantee that the leaked memory is purged.
[21:13] <h00k> piccardTE: is your machine overheating?
[21:14] <piccardTE> yes
[21:14] <guntbert> sab: no - I was asking about the part immediately after <tab> - you will get a large part but not a complete file name - you have to press <tab> a second time for a choice, then you continue until the file name is really complete
[21:14] <BusMaster> clrg, but if i reboot the vm, won't it be purged? the apps leaking them will essentially be using the vm's memory and if I reboot it... ?
[21:14] <MilkmanDan> clrg: How would it not guarantee that?
[21:15] <dabaR> yshavit: you're telling me this thing actually lets one put pirated music onto their iPhone?
[21:15] <sab> guntbert, yes its works now..:-)
[21:15] <h00k> !pm | piccardTE
[21:15] <guntbert> sab: problem solved? what was wrong?
[21:15] <h00k> piccardTE: I'm not sure , keep checking with the channel
[21:15] <clrg> MilkmanDan: If you reboot a machine, without powering it off and waiting say 2 minutes, it is possible to recover data stored in the RAM modules. If you reboot a VM, it will just free the RAM it's claimed to run it, then boot again, claim some RAM (not necessarily the same blocks...) and so on.
[21:15] <yshavit> dabaR: I'm telling you it lets you put mp3s on your iphone. Whether you pay for those is a DADT issue as far as I'm concerned
[21:15] <piccardTE> ok
[21:16] <dabaR> yshavit: I had no idea it can be done. Sweet.
[21:16] <MilkmanDan> clrg: I think you misunderstand what BusMaster is asking, then.
[21:16] <yshavit> dabaR: relatively newish, I think :)
[21:16] <sab> guntbert, not yet
[21:16] <clrg> MilkmanDan: He wants to purge the leaked memory?
[21:16] <MilkmanDan> clrg: Yes.
[21:17] <MilkmanDan> Rebooting a virtual machine will certainly accomplish that.
[21:17] <clrg> MilkmanDan: Definitely not. Do you know how memory allocation in the Linux kernel works?
[21:17] <h00k> clrg: the memory allocated by the vm will be clean once the vm is rebooted, and then re-allocated once the vm is started. this will effectively work, it may not be the best solution, but it works.
[21:17] <guntbert> sab: could you please be a little more verbose? I find it hard to understand your situation
[21:18] <BusMaster> clrg, MilkmanDan here is an example. I run spotify under wine which makes gnome-settings-daemon leak memory..it then brings my whole machine to a halt..so I though running spotify under wine in a vm will help. the vm's memory is used up, then i reboot hte vm
[21:18] <clrg> h00k: The memory is not clean. It is marked clean. The data is still there, waiting to be overwritten by the next program claiming the blocks.
[21:18] <sab> guntbert, i was trying sudo dpkg --configure -a and getting this error.........http://paste.ubuntu.com/418819/
[21:18] <NinoScript> I have a problem with xmodmap -> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Fi2yts5D
[21:18] <h00k> clrg: but its not allocated and is therefore 'free.' this is the desired result.
[21:19] <clrg> h00k: Then you confuse the terms "purged" as in wiped, cleaned, and "free", as in unclaimed.
[21:19] <MilkmanDan> BusMaster: That sounds good.
[21:19] <BusMaster> MilkmanDan, thanks..I'll try it then
[21:19] <Ubuntu-User> Hi
[21:20] <guntbert> sab: so you downloaded the file and tried to copy/move it ?
[21:20] <Emptymag> has anyone gotten any version of ubuntu to run on the newest macbook pros?
[21:20] <BusMaster> MilkmanDan, is there a way the leaking memory can "escape" out of the vm and start eating the memory in my host machine?
[21:20] <sab> guntbert, yes thats i did min ago,was jdk.....
[21:20] <MilkmanDan> BusMaster: There shouldn't be, no.
[21:20] <Emptymag> I tried today but it never actually booted to live
[21:20] <BusMaster> Emptymag, i'm running it on macbookpro5,5 no sure if that's the latest one though
[21:20] <MilkmanDan> It shouldn't really escape Wine, either.
[21:20]  * clrg has to go
[21:21] <Emptymag> no i have the new 7,1 just came today
[21:21] <h00k> BusMaster: consider using programs that don't have memory leaks
[21:21] <Emptymag> btw its beautiful
[21:21] <BusMaster> h00k, i _want_ to run spotify..there is no native linux client. It works under wine, but the combination leaks. I just have to live with it
[21:21] <guntbert> sab: and then you said: "yes its works now..:-)"   - what worked?
[21:22] <sab> guntbert, mv
[21:22] <Ubuntu-User> I can't connect to my ubuntu by nokia e51 using putty via ssh. I can connect using another one computer. I have log, so where i can paste it?
[21:22] <Emptymag> pastie.org
[21:22] <realcoolguy> BusMaster: Would it leak under a regular windows OS?... might want to consider a Windows VM?
[21:22] <BusMaster> MilkmanDan, unfortunately, it does escape out of wine https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/485923 or I am misunderstanding something
[21:23] <crucialhoax> I installed ubuntu but did not export my pgp key, now I cannot decrypt my pgp files. Any suggestions?
[21:23] <guntbert> sab: I have to tell you that your *very* short answers are stretching ma patience a bit - so the mv did work and the file is in /tmp now?
[21:23] <BusMaster> realcoolguy, it won't leak under windows..but I tried to run windows 7 in a VM with 1gig ram (my laptop has 2 gigs ram) and both my laptop and win7 vm became dead slow. so I am thinking maye ubuntu minimal will work with 512 megs ram
[21:24] <sab> guntbert, i m sorry for my writing,yes mv work and the file is in tem now
[21:24] <realcoolguy> BusMaster: I was thinking more of a stripped down XP.  :)
[21:24] <numen> anyone an good idea, why sound on xdesktop is good, but when i start xbmc, sound becomes bad
[21:24] <h00k> crucialhoax: without your key, you're kinda out of luck
[21:25] <crucialhoax> h00k: I have no options?
[21:25] <guntbert> sab: ok, is it owned by root.root ?
[21:25] <Kangarooo> where could i find page where is also FVM and other light window manager modification screenshots like in http://www.boxshots.org/style/ but with ratings so i could find best by filtering popular and filtering by window manager name so i could find popular on each window manager
[21:25] <llutz> crucialhoax: if you had, gpg would be senseless
[21:25] <sab> guntbert, no idea,i m very new in linux
[21:25] <h00k> !crosspost | Kangarooo
[21:25] <glen_> Hi, i am using "places > search for files" in ubuntu, in the search phrase i am typing "*\**" - should this not find files with *'s in the middle of the name?
[21:25] <BusMaster> realcoolguy, maybe it'll work. but my experience is that windows generally doesn't work and if i have to fiddle anyway, I might as well fiddle with linux, because linux works :)
[21:26] <h00k> !themes | Kangarooo
[21:26] <jcrawford> guys does Ubuntu not recognize a HDMI display?
[21:26] <crucialhoax> llutz: correct. well then, my mistake I think I can recreate some of them, but some not.
[21:26] <Kangarooo> h00k: thx finaly somebody answer :)
[21:26] <jcrawford> I have a card which had DVI out and HDMI out and would like to use 2 displays but I could not even get Ubuntu to see a single display connected via HDMI
[21:27] <h00k> Kangarooo: I'm not sure if that is what you are looking for, but might be a start
[21:27] <guntbert> sab: please paste the output of ls -l /tmp/jdk* (if that is one or two lines, else use !pastebin)
[21:27] <MilkmanDan> crucialhoax: Depending on what you've done with the drive you may be able to pay for someone to recover the old files.
[21:27] <MilkmanDan> But that may not be worth it to you.
[21:27] <realcoolguy> jcrawford: I've had no problems with Ubuntu's detection of HDMI displays.  Interesting you haven't been able to get them to talk.  I was a bit shocked at how well it just 'worked'.  What sort of displays are you hooking them up to?
[21:28] <crucialhoax> MilkmanDan: They weren't that important. I will deal with it. I thought I had everything covered.
[21:28] <jrz> hey guys :P
[21:28] <sab> guntbert, o/p is ...ls-l: command not found
[21:28] <frostburn> jcrawford, it recognizes it, but does the hdmi device provide details about what kind of configuration it has
[21:28] <jrz> I've been using freebsd/debian for the last 10 years (maybe longer...) after 2 years of slackware
[21:29] <jrz> I've recently moved to ubuntu
[21:29] <guntbert> sab: be more careful please -- I said ls -l (not ls-l)
[21:29] <realcoolguy> sab: ls -l is what you would want, not ls-l
[21:29] <jrz> But I saw that centos is used a lot in ip pbxes...   how does it compare to ubuntu?
[21:29] <jcrawford> HP Display connecting to a Dell Precision T3500
[21:29] <bondiblueos9> how can I make this work for files with spaces?
[21:29] <bondiblueos9> for file in $( ls -b . ) ; do rm $file ; done
[21:29] <guntbert> !ot | jrz
[21:29] <bondiblueos9> (I tried -b without it working)
[21:29] <llutz> !ot > jrz
[21:30] <sab> guntbert, -rw-r--r-- 1 sab sab 84853474 2010-04-19 21:59 /tmp/jdk-6u20-linux-x64.bin
[21:30] <jrz> ooo ok.. sorry gunt
[21:30] <frostburn> jcrawford, does this return anything..    sudo ddcprobe
[21:30] <h00k> bondiblueos9: for bash support, see #bash
[21:31] <MilkmanDan> Wait, discussing differences between Ubuntu and other systems is off topic?
[21:31] <guntbert> sab: are you certain that that is the correct file? the error message talks about zip files
[21:31] <llutz> bondiblueos9: rm "$file"
[21:31] <jcrawford> checking
[21:31] <sab> guntbert, i think so
[21:31] <h00k> MilkmanDan: this channel is for Ubuntu support mainly, other discussions like that are for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:31] <jcrawford> command not found frostburn
[21:32] <frostburn> jcrawford, sudo apt-get install xresprobe
[21:32] <vladimir_> Hi everyone! Where can I get some help with problems I have updating to 9.10?
[21:32] <jcrawford> tnx
[21:32] <guntbert> sab: ok, now please type sudo chown -v root.root /tmp/jdk*
[21:32] <h00k> !ask | vladimir_
[21:33] <q_> ima new 2 this wats up
[21:33] <jcrawford> frostburn, http://pastebin.com/GJ1hKDAQ
[21:33] <llutz> bondiblueos9: or use ls -Q      (but using ls-output is dangerous, better use find)
[21:33] <sab> guntbert, yes up to this point its ok,now should i run dpkg --conf....again?
[21:33] <guntbert> sab: yes, try it
[21:33] <dekroning> does the xorg get build from the .fdi files each time it starts ?
[21:33] <jcrawford> frostburn, i have both DVI and HDMI connected now though it uses the DVI port because the monitor says no signal on HDMI
[21:33] <znxtch> .
[21:34] <crucialhoax> what is the package to use nautilus with seahorse? `right click > encrypt...`
[21:34] <h00k> q_: If you have questions, ask them all on one line and somebody may help you if they are able to
[21:34] <frostburn> jcrawford, your monitor isn't reporting anything, this is what mine looks like
[21:35] <h00k> crucialhoax: it might be seahorse-plugins
[21:35] <q_> ok is there a program like nero on ubuntu-linux that burns mutli driver at one time plz help
[21:35] <jcrawford> frostburn, any idea what i could do in order to get this to work?
[21:36] <crucialhoax> h00k: I have that one, it is not working.
[21:36] <h00k> !info brasero | q_
[21:36] <vladimir_> :) Thank you. Ok here's the deal: My internet connection really sucks (low signal wireless) and I want to update to 9.10; DL-ed the alternative cd, mounted it, tried to update and got reminded that I still have to DL some more... burned the image, same thing happened. Is the alternative cd broken or what? I can't keep my connection stable enough to do the update from the web.... Any suggestions?
[21:37] <q_> i got 4 dvd burner i want 2 use all at onr time u kno?
[21:37] <mac_linux> Could someone tell me the method to find out if a process is hogging up the resources of my cpu and causing it to overheat?
[21:37] <frostburn> jcrawford, short answer no, long answer, you'll have a tough time getting xorg to work with your monitor
[21:37] <h00k> !u | q_
[21:38] <q_> sorry buddy
[21:38] <frostburn> jcrawford, your best bet is to cruise the ubuntu forums for any help
[21:39] <q_> i'm try to use more that one dvd burner at one time like nero does on windows
[21:41] <realcoolguy> mac_linux: Overheating with even 100% cpu usage is not good.  You might want to check your fans, and heatsinks to make sure everything is spinning and in order (not completely clogged with dust for example).  The graphical system monitor might be the easiest to use, otherwise you can use the ps command to get a list of processes running (you'll need to add a modifier to that command).
[21:44] <kn100> is there a command to list all installed programs
[21:44] <ricklerre> Hey all, I'm getting a message of "gpg: keyserver timed out" when I try to add a signing key for a ppa(the firefox-stable one) Has anyone else gotten this or is there a workaround?
[21:44] <h00k> ricklerre: occasionally the keyserver does this, just keep trying
[21:45] <pslowafast> can someone please help me
[21:45] <ricklerre> h00k: I've been getting this for about a week now, is that to be expected?
[21:45] <pslowafast> i have maths hw that is spost to be in tomoz
[21:45] <pslowafast> i need todo it now but i am really badly stop HELP
[21:45] <arvind_khadri> !ask | pslowafast
[21:45] <vladimir_> What's the proper way to upgrade to 9.10 using the alternative CD? I tried mounting it and running gksudo "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" as stated on the wiki but it required me to download packages from the web (th's not really an option for me right now...)?
[21:46] <duffydack> q_, never tried it in linux before, and the last time I had more than 1 burner was eons ago...  maybe you could add fstab entries for them all ?
[21:47] <duffydack> q_, like for 1 it would be like /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[21:47] <trevor> How do you enable compiz in xubuntu, i have installed all the plugins and i can access the settings for compiz, but when i run it - it slows the computer down
[21:47] <flare`> need some help with ubuntu server 9.10, i got the server booted and working and after our web admin connected in to install his stuff the server wont boot and it fails loading LVM2
[21:47] <MilkmanDan> Where should I go to find out about getting involved in bug testing and triage?
[21:47] <duffydack> q_,  there is always nerolinux if you cant get it working.
[21:48] <duffydack> q_, try k3b first tho...
[21:48] <realcoolguy> trevor: have you installed whichever (Nvidia/ATI) driver you need to?
[21:48] <trevor> yes
[21:48] <flare`> and when it boots it dumps me to an initramfs
[21:48] <flare`> shell
[21:48] <bea> ola
[21:48] <q_> what fstab entries
[21:48] <h00k> MilkmanDan: Check out http:/wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[21:49] <timClicks> I would be interested in people's feedback on this idea http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24449
[21:49] <bea> que tal
[21:49] <tmh_> a fresh install of either 9.10 or latest 10.04 hangs in boot after fsck. I have three USB disks as a RAID5, might it be that?
[21:49] <trevor> when i run "compiz --replace" it slows down
[21:49] <dekroning> i have changed a file in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty    but Xorg isn't reading this file out launch, what am i forgetting here ?
[21:49] <tmh_> how do I debug the startup to know what service it's starting after fsck?
[21:49] <bea> ola
[21:49] <duffydack> q_, /etc/fstab
[21:50] <bea> si
[21:51] <guntbert> !es | bea
[21:51] <ubuntu-usr> i can't connect by nokia e51 using putty for symbian via ssh. servr seems to be working, i can connect using another pc and ubuntu live cd. here's log http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/jNrgMMzi
[21:52] <realcoolguy> trevor: have you run glxgears?
[21:52] <tmh_> ubuntu-usr: you're using a private IP
[21:52] <trevor> no, how so?
[21:52] <dekroning> why doesn't ubuntu just use xorg.conf damnit!?
[21:52] <tmh_> perhaps you're using your pohne's GPRS or 3G connection?
[21:52] <trevor> with alt f2
[21:52] <switch10_> packages.medibuntu.org is down for everyone?
[21:53] <h00k> switch10_: yep
[21:53] <trevor> oh yes, i just did, it is smooth
[21:53] <realcoolguy> trevor: easy visual is to open a terminal and type glxgears   you will either have the gears smoothly spinning, or it'll be a very poor frame rate.
[21:53] <trevor> its smooth
[21:54] <realcoolguy> trevor: well sounds like your 3d drivers are in right.  I'll be honest I avoid compiz because I don't like dealing with the possible problems I have seen.  Hopefully there's a compiz pro who can help direct you :)
[21:54] <trevor> alright, thanks though
[21:55] <scott_ino2> any dvdrip/transcode users in here, question regarding transcode and dvdrip
[21:55] <c3l> why is the medibuntu repo so damn slow to update?
[21:56] <switch10_> c3l: sounds like its down..
[21:56] <scott_ino2> c3l, switch10_ it is, or was as of a couple min ago
[21:56] <mikel> i have a question about my movie player, it shuts down when i play audio or video after 5 seconds, sometimes it plays longer, any suggestions?
[21:56] <c3l> switch10_, oh, but when I run apt-get update I always get stuck on that 1
[21:56] <slackster> hi, how can I play music over the command line?
[21:56] <ubuntu-usr> thm, don't know. connection was created by left mouse button on network manager and the i selected create new wireless network, than i chnged mode from infrastructure to ad hoc
[21:57] <switch10_> slackster: mpg123
[21:57] <switch10_> slackster: or mpg321 which is a little better
[21:57] <slackster> switch10_: thx taking a look
[21:58] <Droopsta915> Hello. My system doesnt have a boot splash. It's just a black screen. Is there anyway I can fix it to default boot splash screen?
[21:58] <dekroning> is there a new manual on how to configure Xorg in ubuntu? this is old stuff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[21:59] <vladimir_> How do I upgrade 9.04->9.10 from alternative cd image?
[21:59] <ubuntu-usr> tmh_,  don't know. connection was created by left mouse button on network manager and the i selected create new wireless network, than i chnged mode from infrastructure to ad hoc
[21:59] <slackster> switch10_: should I be able to do it over ssh?
[21:59] <switch10_> slackster: yup, I do it..
[22:00] <jason_> anyone here use openbox?
[22:00] <h00k> ubottu: tell vladimir_ about upgrade
[22:00] <realcoolguy> jason: using openbox right now.  Is this a resolution question? :)
[22:00] <arvind_khadri> jason_, ask what you want to
[22:01] <arvind_khadri> !tell jason_ about ask
[22:01] <jason_> how do you access the trash, or when you hit delete does it auto delete it from your system
[22:01] <tmh_> ubuntu-usr: why do you want to SSH through an ad-hoc wireless?
[22:01] <tmh_> the IP address depends on what network you use
[22:02] <tmh_> but you have the wrong address there probably
[22:02] <realcoolguy> jason: when you say 'trash' where are you referring to?  Is it something inside a virtual OS?
[22:02] <jason_> yeah
[22:02] <tmh_> or in this case, if you just create an ad-hoc network you can't connect straight because the phone doesn't get an IP address from the ad-hoc network
[22:03] <tmh_> you'd need a DHCP server for that, but that's probably not what you're trying to do
[22:03] <realcoolguy> jason_: is this an ubuntu VM?
[22:04] <ubuntu-usr> tmh_, nope. it's correct. i have checked it in network manager.
[22:04] <snaga> anybody good at CPR for X?
[22:05] <tmh_> does anyone know how I can debug the bootup? what service starts after fsck, it's hanging?
[22:05] <tmh_> ubuntu-usr: is that the wireless IP address or the computer's ethernet address?
[22:05] <ubuntu-usr> wireless
[22:06] <snaga> By reinstalling only some xserver-xorg packages I have no inputs and no network :(  Do have rescue shell...
[22:06] <ubuntu-usr> tmh_, wireless
[22:06] <yitz_> Does ubuntu have some sort of cli disk activity monitor tool?
[22:07] <tmh_> well have you set the phone's IP address manually for it's wireless or is there a DHCP server?
[22:08] <vladimir_> snaga: What's the problem? You cannot log into Gnome? X freezes?
[22:08] <snaga> X freezes.  No kbd/mouse
[22:08] <vladimir_> Screen garbled? Funny colours?
[22:09] <ubuntu-usr> tmh_, on the phone i'm discovering wireless network, then i'm try to use ssh. anyway phon is client not server
[22:09] <snaga> No my screen is fine...
[22:10] <vladimir_> How do you know? No kbd, no mouse...
[22:10] <snaga> Is there a config file I can delete or edit to get my X inputs back?
[22:10] <ubuntu-usr> tmh_, wireless connection is successful but then i can't connect
[22:11] <ubuntu-usr> tmh_, i have checked in phone is detected network in ad hoc mode. it is
[22:11] <tmh_> yeah it's not about that
[22:11] <tmh_> you phone doesn't have an IP address
[22:11] <tmh_> or have you set one? or set up a dhcp server?
[22:12] <vladimir_> I had a similar problem yesterday, I think I installed ATI proprietary drivers and all of a sudden, I was thrown back to console, and when I rebooted, X froze every time.
[22:12] <msaadn> Hey guize, my friends got ubuntu and XP installed on the same machine and wanted to know how to switch between the two OSes, IS it possible?
[22:12] <h00k> ubottu: dualboot | msaadn
[22:12] <ubuntu-usr> tmh_, nope. i have no clue what can i do now
[22:12] <snaga> Yes, I tried fglrx and then reinstalled radeon .  That was the start of my troubles.
[22:12] <tmh_> yeah, ad-hoc doesn't work like that
[22:13] <tmh_> use another network connection
[22:13] <ubuntu-usr> wherea logs in the server should be?
[22:13] <snaga> I only lost my mouse and keys when I started messing with xserver-xorg packages.
[22:13] <tmh_> /var/log/daemon.log
[22:13] <vladimir_> Then remove it. It should bring everything back.
[22:13] <msaadn> Thanks h00k.
[22:13] <mac_linux> I tried installing Ubutu 9.10 on my powerbook G4 '12 1.33 GHz mac.  During upgrade, toward the last part of installing the new packages, cpu usage went up to 100% and shut down soon after.  Any ideas on what went wrong?
[22:13] <h00k> msaadn: no prob :)
[22:14] <snaga> Replacing my video driver packages the way they were did not fix my display.
[22:14] <KettleCorn> does anyone know how to start lighttpd if apache is installed? I've tried turning off apache with /etc/init.d/apache2 stop (and it reports as stopped), but starting lighttpd gives me: (network.c.300) can't bind to port:  80 Address already in use
[22:14] <ubuntu-usr> tmh_, paste them?
[22:14] <realcoolguy> yitz_ what level of disk activity are you looking for? iotop does a per process monitoring of I/O disk monitoring
[22:14] <vladimir_> i removed xserver-fglrx
[22:14] <tmh_> no. your setup won't work
[22:14] <snaga> Hmmm.  I think I did too.
[22:14] <tmh_> use another network connection
[22:15] <ubuntu-usr> tmh_, you mean wired?
[22:15] <snaga> BTW what is the usual keypress to go to the Grub menu if it is set to bypass it?
[22:15] <yitz_> realcoolguy: iotop looks good. It's not in the 8.04 repo, though. I had to grab it directly from the iotop site
[22:15] <mdajid_> hello
[22:16] <snaga> If you don't see Windows and Ubuntu at boot you are bypassing Grub, right?
[22:16] <VCoolio> snaga: left shift iirc
[22:16] <snaga> iirc?
[22:16] <vladimir_> rly? hm... how bout dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[22:16] <VCoolio> snaga: sorry, if i recall correctly
[22:16] <snaga> Can I do that in a rescue shell?
[22:16] <mdajid> when i open window , window open in maximize and top bar of window goes under the top bar of screen
[22:17] <mdajid> plz help me to shows that icon
[22:17] <switch10_> snaga: yes, left shift to show the grub menu
[22:17] <VCoolio> snaga: you need to press left shift while booting for grub to appear
[22:17] <mdajid> when i open window , window open in maximize and top bar of window goes under the top bar of screen.plz help me to shows that icons
[22:17] <axisys> how to compile kernel in ubuntu ? i have a friend want to try it out on dockstar arm chip platform
[22:18] <snaga> OK that should help the guy that is not seeing his Windows / Ubuntu options at boot.
[22:18] <msaadn> h00k, Its not dual boot I am looking for, Its how to switch between the two OSes.
[22:18] <vladimir_> snaga: did you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[22:18] <tmh_> yeah. wired
[22:18] <mdajid> when i open window , window open in maximize and top bar of window goes under the top bar of screen.plz help me to shows that icons
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> mdajid, hold alt and drag the window down a bit - they try remaximizing it
[22:18] <tmh_> or wlan with an access point
[22:18] <snaga> If you are not running a virtual install you have to reboot to switch OS's
[22:19] <snaga> If you don't see a list of options hit left shift.
[22:19] <crucialhoax> I am making a script to install a lot of packages, what is the proper `tar` command to decompress it?
[22:19] <h00k> msaadn: when done properly, when you reboot, you should be able to pick what you want when you turn the computer off
[22:19] <switch10_> tar -xf
[22:19] <vladimir_> tar -xf
[22:19] <slackster> switch10_: any idea of why it wouldn't be working over ssh?
[22:19] <snaga> TTFN I will try a couple of the hints.  Thanks guys.
[22:20] <slackster> switch10_: works fine from the servers terminal
[22:20] <switch10_> slackster: local files on the system that you are sshing into?
[22:20] <mdajid> Zykotick9 : iknow what am i doing for unmaximize that whit short key i want when i open window , that window show in maximize withe close buttom in top of that window
[22:20] <vladimir_> snaga, where are you from?
[22:20] <switch10_> slackster: you are trying to play*
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> mdajid, i'm sorry i don't understand your reply
[22:21] <snaga> BTW if Windows was installed AFTER Ubuntu it would erase Grub so you would have to reinstall it using an Ubuntu alternate CD or something.
[22:21] <snaga> Bye guys.
[22:22] <mdajid> Zykotick9 : iknow what am i doing for unmaximize window in ubuntu  whit short key but i want when i open window , that window completely open with top bar
[22:22] <mdajid> Zykotick9 : i 'm sorry for my mistake in English
[22:22] <blik> Hello - I need some help with an encoding problem I seem to be having.
[22:23] <msaadn> Alright I'll tell him, Thanks snaga and h00k.
[22:23] <slackster> switch10_: yes
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> mdajid, i'm very sorry but I still don't understand.  If there an ubuntu channel in your native language perhaps?
[22:23] <blik> foreign chars, of all languages are showing as dark diamons wiith question mark symbols - any suggestions on how to debug/solve this? I have googled and tried everything with no luck
[22:24] <mdajid> no
[22:24] <slackster> switch10_: rvlc -vvv worked.. I was told to try this, I'll have to rtfm on that option as I don't know what it did
[22:24] <blik> im viewing the txt files in vim and gedit
[22:24] <mdajid> Zykotick9 : ok thank you :(
[22:24] <ZykoticK9> Does anyone understand what mdajid is asking?  that could help?
[22:25] <switch10_> slackster: hmm, yeah I don't know.  I use mpg321 through ssh, and it works fine.  I don't think you can stream files to a machine from a remote machine though...
[22:26] <switch10_> slackster: if that is what you are trying to do..
[22:26] <helo> blik: if you have the fonts, i think it should work
[22:26] <blik> yes, thats what I thought
[22:26] <blik> I think I have a double encoding problem
[22:26] <mdajid> when i open windows in ubuntu in maximize size , top bar of windows is hidden
[22:26] <blik> I dual boot ubuntu and windows xp - the files in XP render fine in gedit via mounted partition
[22:27] <blik> in ubuntu they show as these symbols
[22:27] <hylian> hello all
[22:27] <vladimir_> mdajid: did you run compiz in terminal or something like that? i tried that a couple of times, and got the same problem
[22:27] <switch10_> mdajid: hold alt+left click drag..
[22:27] <hylian> ubottu !filezilla
[22:27] <mdajid> vladimir , no
[22:28] <MilkmanDan> Can the installer use existing encrypted partitions, or do you have to make and format them during installation?
[22:28] <vladimir_> is it always like that? or it just happens occasionally?
[22:28] <slackster> switch10_: they are local on ther server i AM SSH'ed into
[22:28] <mdajid> seitch10_ : i dont want to drag it
[22:28] <switch10_> slackster: yeah that should work fine..
[22:29] <mdajid> seitch10_ : i want ubuntu open windows in correct status with top bar
[22:29] <hal> does anyone know of a utility in ubuntu where you can write some text, highlight it, and cycle through all the fonts installed on the system using just one key to find one that looks best?
[22:29] <mdajid> vladimir , no i dont use compiz
[22:30] <ZykoticK9> hal, have a look at "xfontsel" it's close to what you are looking for
[22:30] <helo> man i love microsoft
[22:30] <helo> err... i mean "microsoft man love i"
[22:30] <Spoils> Question.  I am going to switch from Vista to Ubuntu in 10 days.  I got the S.M.A.R.T. warning that my hard drive is going to fail, but... I want to rescue all of my files, etc...
[22:30] <vladimir_> do all your windows have their top bars hidden under the top bar of screen?
[22:31] <mdajid> سلام
[22:31] <flare`> anyone have an idea how to repair sed and tr?
[22:31] <mdajid> کسی ایرانی هست؟
[22:31] <Glowball> In Lucid, LUbuntu will be a recognized derivative, right?
[22:31] <Spoils> I am particularly worried about forgetting the passwords to my email accounts... i haven't had to use some of them in so long, i am not sure if i remember them all
[22:31] <Typos_King> hal:    you can do that in open office Writer
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> Glowball, incorrect i'm affraid
[22:31] <helo> why quote lord of the rings?
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> Glowball, perhaps by 10.10
[22:31] <MilkmanDan> Spoils: Start backing up now.
[22:32] <Glowball> Oh, that's too bad
[22:32] <Glowball> I was really hoping for it
[22:32] <Glowball> ZykoticK9: Any reason why?
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> Glowball, it's still missing some "key" ubuntu required apps (like network browsing or something?)
[22:33] <trism> blik: could be an encoding problem if they aren't utf8 (if I want to view files in shift-js or euc_jp I need to change locale to ja_JP.utf8 or reencode the file into utf8 with something like iconv)
[22:33] <Glowball> Ah.. So probably no LUbuntu iso either.
[22:33] <hal> Typos_King: hi  - you can't seem to do it with one click in ooo writer, can you?
[22:33] <Glowball> Too bad, that's cleaner than installing lubuntu-desktop manually
[22:33] <hal> ZykoticK9: it looks a bit antiquated - where do I type my text?
[22:33] <taree> sorry for my ignorance, but what is lubuntu?
[22:34] <mdajid> when i open windows in ubuntu in maximize size , top bar of windows is hidden
[22:34] <brummbaer> taree, lxde ubuntu
[22:34] <krel> can I install ubuntu and use the discrete GPU with the nvidia driver on the new 15" macbook pros?  not buying one until I know for sure
[22:34] <taree> brummbaer: ah, i see
[22:34] <Typos_King> hal:   sure, type in, your text, select it, then go to Format > Character, the highlighted text will be the 'preview' used and you can click your way through the fonts
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> hal, you don't type anything just change the fndry on the left side and it will show you the fonts in the white space
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> hal, antiquated is an understatement ;)
[22:35] <zaxonspox> hal ther is standard text printed, you only switch Font with UP/DOWN arrows
[22:35] <taree> is there a .*buntu for all wm/de's?
[22:35] <brummbaer> taree, any of them?
[22:35] <Glowball> No, there isn't. But you can install several of them via synaptic
[22:35] <brummbaer> taree, you can install any desktop env on any of them.
[22:35] <hal> ah nice one Typos_King - that's it! Thank you
[22:35] <dekroning> anyone that could please help me out with some HAL Xorg configuration please, i'm not able to get my config loaded by Xorg, i think i'm doing something wrong with my <match> tag
[22:36] <vladimir_> mdajid: Right click on the top bar, click Properties and tell me is Autohide checked
[22:36] <Glowball> Lubuntu will become one though, eventually
[22:36] <taree> cool
[22:36] <dekroning> is there away to see the current running Xorg config file?
[22:37] <mdajid> vladimir_ : no i dont mean top bar of screen
[22:37] <Typos_King> dekroning:    just check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:37] <dekroning> Typos_King: i don't have that file
[22:37] <mdajid> vladimir_ : no i mean top bar of windows with close and minimize icon and name of windows
[22:37] <zaxonspox> dekroning: everyones got it :P
[22:38] <Typos_King> dekroning:  then you don't have it :), but you can make one to override settings, if you want to know 'display' values, you can check with -> xdpyinfo
[22:38] <taree> zaxonspox: not the ones that rely on hal/evdev
[22:38] <vladimir_> mdajid: when you maximize a window, you can't see those buttons, correct?
[22:38] <mdajid> vladimir_ : that bar hidden when my windows in maximize status
[22:38] <dekroning> zaxonspox: when i had it, everyone didn't have that file ;-)
[22:38] <mdajid> vladimir_ : yes
[22:38] <mdajid> vladimir_ : :D
[22:38] <vladimir_> ok, mdajid, do as i told you and uncheck autohide
[22:38] <dekroning> Typos_King: well i'm especially interested in witch drivers are loaded, e.g. which pointer devices are in my running config
[22:39] <vladimir_> i think that's what's giving you trouble
[22:39] <realcoolguy> Spoils:  I would suggest taking a look at the ddrescue utility.  (like the dd command, except it won't thrash your failing disk until it gets everything it can off of it.)  The LinuxLeo site (even though it' for forensics) has excellent instructions.  The pdf is here http://www.linuxleo.com/Docs/linuxintro-LEFE-3.78.pdf and the page to start looking at would be 113.  Feel free to read the whole chapter on disk imaging however.
[22:39] <Typos_King> zaxonspox:     9.1 doesn't make one by default that I know, older ubuntu versions do
[22:39] <bazz> is there any way to get ssh not to ignore a private key file with group read?
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> dekroning, you can generate an xorg file to make your changes to
[22:39] <vladimir_> right click on the top panel, go to properties and uncheck autohide
[22:39] <mdajid> vladimir_ : ok
[22:39] <Spoils> realcoolguy: thanks
[22:40] <Typos_King> dekroning:  you can get all that info from -> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:40] <mdajid> vladimir_ : auto hide is uncheck
[22:40] <zaxonspox> Typos_King: didnt know that, i am using still 9.04, 9.10 got on external USB drive
[22:40] <Typos_King> dekroning:  can also check in 'dmsg' too
[22:40] <dekroning> Typos_King: i was hoping to be able to view it in xorg.conf format :)
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> dekroning, sets to create an xorg - http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[22:41] <vladimir_> hm... what happens if you check/uncheck it? any change?
[22:41] <Typos_King> dekroning:  I think xdpyinfo shows it closely enough :)
[22:41] <mdajid> vladimir_ : :(
[22:41] <mdajid> vladimir_ : :'(
[22:42] <dekroning> ZykoticK9: Typos_King: but if i'm not mistaken 9.10 should use HAL config for Xorg, but for some reason i can't get my driver to be loaded with my .fdi file
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> dekroning, if you create an xorg.conf it will be used
[22:42] <mdajid> :'(
[22:42] <randomusr_> where's the spot to set up remote viewing? (vnc)
[22:42] <mdajid> :'(
[22:42] <mdajid> :((
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> mdajid, please stop the smileys
[22:43] <vladimir_> well, i don['t know... if i check autohide, i get the same problem as you have...
[22:43] <mdajid> Zykotick9 , ok i'm sorry
[22:43] <zaxonspox> randomusr_: System>>Preferences>>Remote desktop
[22:44] <Ven]n> i just installed ubuntu from a usb key image to another usb.. but it wont boot for some reason
[22:44] <zaxonspox> randomusr_: if you want to share your desktop
[22:44] <Ven]n> only showing a blinking _ on top left corner
[22:44] <Ven]n> any ideas?
[22:44] <randomusr_> zaxonspox, I must be blind cuz I don't see it there
[22:45] <zaxonspox> randomusr_:  everyones got it :P
[22:45] <Typos_King> Ven]n:    installed from usbstick to usbstick... how?
[22:45] <zaxonspox> Typos_King: normal i have done it today also
[22:46] <randomusr_> meh
[22:46] <zaxonspox> Typos_King: did choose Flash sdrive sdb instead of internal hdd sda
[22:46] <Zed`> window number 17
[22:46] <mikebot> Does anyone know how to import a calendar to evolution from google calendar?
[22:46] <Typos_King> meow
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> randomusr_, vino-preferences
[22:46] <Zed`> oops
[22:46] <taree> is it open for anyone to create a wm/de specific ubuntu?
[22:46] <randomusr_> I'm installing now....
[22:46] <zaxonspox> Typos_King: "meow" ?
[22:47] <mikebot> Or know where I can find that information?
[22:47] <alessandro_> ciao...domanda al volo
[22:47] <Typos_King> zaxonspox:    actually, I was responding to -> <Ven]n> i just installed ubuntu from a usb key image to another usb.. but it wont boot for some reason
[22:47] <Typos_King> :)
[22:48] <Ven]n> Typos_King, used unetbootin
[22:48] <zaxonspox> Typos_King: i am still wondering what is "meow" ? :P
[22:48] <alessandro_> come mai la webcam mi viene vista con cheese e non con camorama?
[22:48] <Ven]n> Typos_King, put the iso on one usb key and booted from it
[22:48] <Ven]n> then I chose to install on my other usb key
[22:48] <Typos_King> zaxonspox:    {=^;^=} meow
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> !it | alessandro_
[22:48] <nimrod10> alessandro_, joint #ubuntu-it per italiano , qui e solo inglese
[22:48] <nimrod10> :)
[22:49] <nimbiotics> can i get help withaircrack here?
[22:49] <nimbiotics> can i get help with aircrack here?
[22:49] <nimrod10> ZykoticK9, you have a better command over ubottu :)
[22:49] <Typos_King> Ven]n:    and it went through the install screens and finished fine?
[22:49] <Kangarooo> i was trying to get in skype to call and to hear my mic but i messed all up how can i reset settings to default?
[22:49] <soreau> nimbiotics: Try #aircrack-ng
[22:50] <nimbiotics> soreau: THX, will do!
[22:50] <taree> riobuntu, preinstalled with full plan9port. sounds pretty cool, i wonder if anyone would use it though.
[22:50] <Ven]n> Typos_King, yep
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[22:51] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     soooo.... and now... what's the matter? :)   I mean... is bios set to boot from usb before hd? or... ?
[22:52] <Ven]n> when booting I set it to boot from usb
[22:53] <zaxonspox> Ven]n did you installed System of LiveCD into second Flash Drive?
[22:53] <zaxonspox> *or
[22:53] <blackstar> need some help to resolve dns from active directory on ubuntu desktop ?
[22:53] <lcarvalho> is there any .deb packager which could give me instructions?
[22:53] <Ven]n> zaxonspox, yeah
[22:54] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     and then?
[22:54] <blackstar> need some help to resolve dns from active directory on ubuntu desktop?
[22:55] <zaxonspox> Ven]n sory, what you answered? did you installed Fully functionally System or LiveCD like the CD version into second Flash Drive?
[22:56] <picard1421> is there a place where i can get a free online meeting server
[22:56] <picard1421> is there a program for ubuntu or anything for free online meetings like webex or somethign that is opensource?
[22:56] <blackstar> need some help to resolve dns from active directory on ubuntu desktop
[22:57] <mikebot> Does evolution have to be open for the calendar to update? (Or does the gnome calendar update itself as well?)
[22:57] <ZykoticK9> !repeat > blackstar
[22:57] <Ven]n> zaxonspox, installed ubuntu-10.04-beta2-netbook-i386
[22:58] <Ven]n> onto a flash drive, yes
[22:58] <Ven]n> went through the whole process
[22:58] <Typos_King> picard1421:   you can use Skype for one, there are other 'conferencing' apps though
[22:58] <FizzDel> hl!
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[22:58] <FloodBot3> DeluxeP: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <Ven]n> it asked for name, pass, language, etc
[22:59] <arand> !ops | DeluxeP
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[22:59] <picard1421> opensource program like dimdim
[22:59] <zaxonspox> Ven]n: did you choose Install Ubuntu into hard drive (chhosing Flash Drive) or USB Creator Tool for Flash drive?
[22:59] <shane2peru> !language | DeluxeP
[22:59] <Ven]n> zaxonspox, just clicked install ubuntu and chose usb key
[22:59] <blackstar> i'm using likewise open, i want to authenticate to AD but dns is not reloving dns
[22:59] <Kangarooo> how to reset sound settings?
[23:00] <Ven]n> but now that you mention it.. im not sure its setup for boot anymore
[23:00] <zaxonspox> Ven]n: then looks like your GRUB bootloader were installed not on USB drive instead into main drive like internal
[23:01] <DarkWizdom> can anybody recommend a nice tool to compare mp3s? but not by idtags, but by "listening" to them :)
[23:02] <Typos_King> picard1421:   http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=conferencing  <--- check there
[23:02] <Ven]n> zaxonspox, doesnt look like it.. there is no grub
[23:02] <Ven]n> even when booting normal harddrive which is running windows
[23:02] <Ven]n> but I need to make the usb key bootable, dont I?
[23:03] <Ven]n> though, it shows available when booting so Im thinking it IS bootable
[23:03] <zaxonspox> Ven]n #1 Flash Drive is bootable, but #2 FD isnt?
[23:03] <SeaPhor> Ven]n, can you examine the drive from another OS or even a live cd?"
[23:03] <Ven]n> yep
[23:04] <Ven]n> hold on a sec
[23:04] <Ven]n> ah, grub IS installed to main drive
[23:04] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     anyhow.... you may want to install grub in the usb stick for it to boot into it, mount your usb stick with ubuntu in it, and  do a say, it mounts as /dev/sdb1, then do a -> sudo grub-install /dev/sdb1;   when done, try it, make sure bios checks the usb devices before hd
[23:04] <WebDawgII> sup
[23:05] <WebDawgII> When I install ubuntu does it erase the entire drive or does it just change the partitions?
[23:05] <WebDawgII> Then write data?
[23:05] <brah-> you can choose where you want to install ubuntu
[23:05] <WebDawgII> I know this.
[23:05] <brah-> on what existing parition
[23:05] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     it'll give you a warning that you shouldn't stick grub in a particular partition and such, nevermind it though :)
[23:05] <zaxonspox> WebDawg it is up to You, what you choose in partition step , it will be done
[23:05] <Ven]n> Typos_King, my setup is to press 0 when booting and then have the option of choosing USB
[23:05] <WebDawgII> But i installed ubuntu on a drive that I need to recover data from.
[23:06] <SeaPhor> Ven]n, what Typos_King said, just do a fdisk -l fires and MAKE SURE /dev/sd** is the drive you want
[23:06] <WebDawgII> Does it format the partition that I create?
[23:06] <Ven]n> if I now start the copmuter without usb key it says error : no such device
[23:06] <Ven]n> hehe
[23:06] <Ven]n> grub rescue>
[23:06] <WebDawgII> or does it just create the partition?
[23:06] <SeaPhor> *first
[23:06] <Oer> WebDawgII, both
[23:06] <WebDawgII> Oer, so it zeros the drive?
[23:07] <Ven]n> how do I remove grub easily from the main drive?
[23:07] <Ven]n> as it now needs the usb key to boot
[23:07] <Ven]n> hehe
[23:07] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     right, cuz is looking for the missing 'grub' files/folder, is trying to find them from the usb stick which isn't plugged in or isn't mapped as hd0
[23:07] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     what's in the 'main drive'?   vista? win7?
[23:08] <Ven]n> win7
[23:08] <paradoxx> My current installation is broken. How does one do an ubuntu recovery from a live cd.
[23:08] <erUSUL> paradoxx: depends on what is broken
[23:08] <Oer> WebDawgII, ubuntu can increase a partition, make the ext3/4 filesystem and format it.
[23:08] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     not sure you can remove it  per se, you will need to boot using  the win7 bootable cd/dvd and restore NTLDR boot loader back in
[23:08] <zaxonspox> paradoxx in which way broken?
[23:09] <WebDawgII> Thats what I am asking Oer does it quick format by default or full format?
[23:09] <Typos_King> paradoxx:    define 'broken'
[23:09] <Oer> WebDawgII, only if it is vista/win7 , let win7 increase the partition to be safe
[23:09] <Ven]n> I knew I shouldve chosen the advanced settings and not "go go go, install ubuntu" :p
[23:09] <paradoxx> erUSUL, zaxonspox, Typos_King I was installing application updates. And now it won't start
[23:10] <Oer> no automatic fuill format, you get a choice screen
[23:10] <zaxonspox> Ven]n: instalation by Win not linux :P'go go go' is in
[23:10] <WebDawgII> I installed an OS over an encrypted drive.
[23:10] <Typos_King> paradoxx:    boot from the live-cd and try giving it a -> sudo e2fsck -c /dev/sda1;    assuming your installation is at sda1 :)
[23:10] <WebDawgII> I wanna try and decrypt it
[23:10] <Ven]n> hmm
[23:10] <WebDawgII> and recover data.
[23:10] <paradoxx> erUSUL, zaxonspox, Typos_King I also tried starting previous kernels and I still have the problem. The computer gets to the Ubuntu loading screen and nothing more
[23:11] <paradoxx> Typos_King, It says that command not found. I'll install it
[23:11] <Oer> WebDawgII,  install over a encrypted drive, i think that is not a good idea
[23:11] <zaxonspox> paradoxx: while in Ubuntu loading screen press CTRL+ALT+F1 to see what is going on
[23:12] <SeaPhor> or "esc"
[23:12] <paradoxx> zaxonspox, I tried that also, but it just gives me a terminal with flashing "_" no login
[23:12] <Ven]n> Typos_King, think I can use that supergrubdisk and chose one of the windows options
[23:12] <paradoxx> Typos_King, WHat is the package name for that command, it says it can't find it
[23:12] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     on another note, if you 'data dump' the mbr before any changes, you can always put it back, for example I install say win32, then I do a ->  sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=sda_mbr.img   and that backs it up, and can always put it back with -> sudo dd if=sda_mbr.img of=/dev/sda   thus sticking back NTLDR or whatever it was in the mbr, grub/else
[23:12] <Typos_King> paradoxx:    boot from the live-cd and try giving it a -> sudo e2fsck -c /dev/sda1;    assuming your installation is at sda1 :)
[23:13] <zaxonspox> paradoxx: do you have a GRUB botloader menu?
[23:13] <Ven]n> confusing.. ;)
[23:13] <Typos_King> paradoxx:    e2fsck  is in the cd
[23:13] <auf_> hello, my computer freezes if i set visual effects to normal or extra after installing last version of ubuntu ?
[23:14] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     you don't happen to have 'Hiren's bootable cd', do you?
[23:14] <auf_> when i tooltip popup appear it's freezes
[23:14] <forestbear> hi
[23:14] <Typos_King> allo forestbear
[23:14] <SeaPhor> or a "MBR-Fix-Utility" boot-disk?
[23:14] <Typos_King> auf_  then don't set them :) hehehe
[23:14] <lost> hi all, i have received the new mpeg update from ubuntu dev now flash is working but not all of them
[23:15] <Ven]n> Typos_King, I do, but I prefer the supergrubdisk I can easily install with unetbootin :)
[23:15] <Ven]n> Typos_King, as its a netbook without a CDROM
[23:15] <paradoxx> Typos_King, That commany fails. Returns http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Vsd7eDSC
[23:15] <Ven]n> supergrubdisk fixes mbr
[23:15] <Ven]n> ;)
[23:15] <auf_> Typos_King, i want to install compiz effects what i can do ?
[23:15] <paradoxx> zaxonspox, yea I do
[23:15] <duffydack> Typos_King, thats a horrible way..  it doesnt backup just the mbr, it backups every part of the drive, even empty space.  Clonezilla is a much better solution with compression and excluding empty space..
[23:16] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     har har har, hiren's cd has an option from the menu to say ->  windows booot [with ntldr] <-- or so, that one boots in win32 when NTLDR  is not in the mbr
[23:16] <duffydack> bs=512 count=1 backs up the mbr.
[23:16] <lost> anyone knows how to check and update backport wireless
[23:16] <zaxonspox> paradoxx: can you choose from menu Ubuntu rescue mode?
[23:17] <Ven]n> Typos_King, doing the grub-install to sdb1 now
[23:17] <Ven]n> warning.. etc etc.. BAD IDEA .. etc :p
[23:17] <Typos_King> duffydack:     ahemm.. true.... I meant to say -> dd if=/dev/sda of=sda_mbr.img bs=512 count=1;     :)
[23:17] <paradoxx> zaxonspox, I tried that option as well and it didn't boot either. Got to the black loading screen and didn't go further
[23:17] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     yeah, it says that, nevermind it though :)
[23:17] <Ven]n> grub-setup: error: if you really want blocklists, use --force
[23:18] <Ven]n> need to rerun with --force?
[23:18] <paradoxx> Typos_King,  Any thoughts on that error?
[23:18] <zaxonspox> auf_: to check if you are able to use compiz run this script http://blogage.de/files/9124/download?compiz-check
[23:18] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     what did you run?
[23:18] <Ven]n> got a warn: embedding is not possible. grub can only be installed in this setup by using bloclists. however, blocklists are unreliable and its use is discouraged
[23:18] <Ven]n> sudo grub-install /dev/sdb1
[23:19] <jaymz> hello everyone
[23:19] <jaymz> Do anyone know the command line for 7zip?
[23:19] <Typos_King> Ven]n:     sure... try with --force..... though it may have gone ok
[23:19] <Ven]n> ill reboot and check
[23:20] <erUSUL> jaymz: 7z
[23:20] <Ven]n> and then do force if it didnt work
[23:20] <Typos_King> jaymz:    type in 7<tab>  let autocomplete do it
[23:20] <Ven]n> nah, didnt work, same blinking - in top left corner
[23:20] <Ven]n> no grub showing up
[23:21] <Typos_King> paradoxx:    it means your installation is not at sda1, check with -> sudo fdisk -l;  where it's at
[23:21] <paradoxx> Typos_King,  Ok, turns out i did it to the wrong partition. It is checking now. I don't think it is a hardware issue though
[23:21] <ddrj> how i find out wat kernel my distro is runnin? thx
[23:21] <paradoxx> Typos_King,  I STRONGLY think it is an error that happened while updating
[23:21] <Typos_King> ddrj:   uname -a
[23:21] <ddrj> thx
[23:21] <jaymz> thx guys
[23:22] <auf_> zaxonspox, thank you this script checked an everything is ok
[23:22] <Typos_King> paradoxx:    yes, but wouldn't lock you out of X though, you can always resume broken downloads from apt-get or dpkg
[23:22] <WXZ> can I have different panels for different desktops, using gnome
[23:23] <auf_> but the main problem if i tried to set visual effect to anything but none computer freeze and need to be restarted manually
[23:23] <zaxonspox> Ven]n: i would [re]install into USB by Method2 in this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[23:23] <paradoxx> Typos_King,  What if it was an update to 10.04?
[23:23] <nimbiotics> how do i install drivers found in a .tar.gz file?
[23:24] <zaxonspox> auf_: type in terminal glxgears
[23:24] <Ven]n> zaxonspox, too much work, hehe.. ill do the grub-install --force and then fix mbr with supergrubdisk ;)
[23:24] <Typos_King> paradoxx:    that.... can't say.... I'd not do an update myself... I'd do a full install of it, and then install my packages :), I do back up all my .debs
[23:24] <SeaPhor> nimbiotics, more than likely you don't need to,,, what driver? for what hardware?
[23:24] <zaxonspox> auf_: it shoul show you animation of gears, if it wont freez you pc
[23:24] <zvacet> nimbiotics : unpack that file and see if there is read me file or install file maybe you will have to compile
[23:25] <paradoxx> Typos_King, I have been using 10.04 for a while and the update last night is the first one to break my installation. Is there an easy way to recover my system?
[23:25] <nimbiotics> zvacet: madwifi-0.9.4.tar.gz
[23:25] <auf_> zaxonspox, it showed animated gears
[23:25] <auf_> so ?
[23:25] <Ven]n> hmm..
[23:25] <SeaPhor> nimbiotics, again ... more than likely you don't need to,,, what driver? for what hardware?
[23:25] <auf_> zaxonspox,  4020 frames in 5.0 seconds
[23:26] <Ven]n> Typos_King, so now I installed grub to the usb key but it still wont show up when booting
[23:26] <zaxonspox> auf_: didnt freez?
[23:26] <auf_> yes
[23:26] <nimbiotics> zvacet: for wireless card, im trying to use aircrack-ng
[23:26] <paradoxx> Typos_King, on another note. How did you backup all your debs?
[23:26] <zaxonspox> Ven]n: grub is in mbr but no menu
[23:26] <auf_> zaxonspox, yes it didnot
[23:27] <zaxonspox> auf_: if you choose axtra effects can you shwitch by pressing CTRL+ALT+F1?
[23:27] <Ven]n> zaxonspox, thing is, I want it on the usb key.. so grub only shows if I choose to boot computer from usb
[23:27] <nimbiotics> SeaPhor: for wireless card, im trying to use aircrack-ng
[23:27] <Typos_King> paradoxx:    images are usually the best solutions for this cases :), thus one expects folks to have things back up for any  discrepancy should it occurr,
[23:28] <SeaPhor> nimbiotics, what card? what does lspci -nn say?
[23:28] <paradoxx> zaxonspox, Typos_King I'm currently running a live cd. Is there a way that I can update packages on the local installation from the livecd?
[23:28] <WXZ> is there a way to setup different panels for each workspace?
[23:28] <auf_> zaxonspox, no my pc hange up and i can not do anything but restarting it manually !
[23:28] <paradoxx> Typos_King, I can access all my files etc via the live cd.
[23:28] <Ven]n> Typos_King, any other suggestions than grub-isntall? :)
[23:28] <Typos_King> paradoxx:     whenever something gets installed using the package manager, it dumps the debs under /var/cache/apt/archive    I grab them from there :), you can also use AptOnCD  http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[23:29] <SeaPhor> nimbiotics, have you looked in System>Administration>Hardware Drivers,,,,,, AFTER enabling the extended extras and getting all updates?
[23:29] <zaxonspox> auf_: then after restart and login check your logs for warnings or errors
[23:29] <auf_> zaxonspox, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307001
[23:29] <Typos_King> Ven]n:  ....  for now, I'd say retry it, it has worked for me for external installs well
[23:29] <nimbiotics> SeaPhor: its an atheros ar5001, i dnt know how 2 use that lspci command ... im a noob...
[23:29] <auf_> zaxonspox, please check this link i have the same card and the same problem how you can help me ?
[23:30] <SeaPhor> np nimbiotics , i'll help
[23:30] <Ven]n> Typos_King, hehe, ok
[23:30] <nimbiotics> SeaPhor: thx
[23:30] <fqh> Hello, dose anyone know why there is not the line "inet addr :xxxxx" in result of ifconfig in ubuntu10.04?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/rmGwshCt
[23:30] <zaxonspox> auf_: let me read it
[23:30] <auf_> ok
[23:30] <gruntzen> Hey, does anybody know where to get the new ubuntu branding font? Is there even a complete font yet?
[23:30] <histo> !lucid > fqh
[23:30] <paradoxx> Typos_King, ok, just looked at aptoncd. It looks useful, but is there a way to recover my current installation?
[23:31] <histo> paradoxx: You should be able to chroot to the install and update
[23:31] <zaxonspox> auf_: you have and integrated Intel GFX card?
[23:31] <BluesKaj> fqh, lucid support at #ubuntu+1
[23:31] <paradoxx> histo, how do I do that?
[23:32] <fqh> thanks
[23:32] <Kentrel> Hey, is it possible to have some of my drives automatically mounted when I log in under my main user account, but other users would have to put in the admin password
[23:32] <Typos_King> paradoxx:     e2fsck -c;   does a 'disk check' per se, it checks/fixes files system integrity and checks for 'bad blocks'.... so... that'd fix that, sometimes it may be doable to fix an install, but often may take you 20times longer than a reinstall
[23:32] <Ven]n> Typos_King, I can run the grub-install from the same mounted OS as im installing to, right?
[23:32] <auf_> zaxonspox, i did not anything after installing ubuntu yesterday
[23:32] <gruntzen> Hey, does anybody know where to get the new ubuntu branding font? Is there even a complete font yet?
[23:33] <paradoxx> Typos_King, would a reinstall get rid of my data?
[23:33] <zaxonspox> auf_: you have and integrated Intel video card? like 82845 or 82945?
[23:33] <BluesKaj> !patience | gruntzen
[23:33] <Ven]n> Typos_King, tried again, didnt work
[23:34] <Typos_King> Ven]n:  well.... you can, but usually is preferable to do it from another system, a live or so :)
[23:34] <paradoxx> Typos_King, Or rather, could i do a reinstall without deleating my current data. I have my home directory on the same partition as the os
[23:34] <Ven]n> Typos_King, could that be why its not working?
[23:34] <Typos_King> paradoxx:     yes it does, any personal data, yes, reason why I back my up too :|
[23:34] <auf_> zaxonspox,  i have intel 82945G
[23:34] <paradoxx> kk
[23:34] <zaxonspox> paradoxx /home should have separete partition
[23:34] <Typos_King> Ven]n:  can't say, but better to do it for a live-boot
[23:35] <zaxonspox> auf_: and thats your problem
[23:35] <Ven]n> ok
[23:35] <paradoxx> zaxonspox, does the default installation do that automatically
[23:35] <auf_> zaxonspox, so?
[23:35] <Losha> Kentrel: the closest I can think of is the 'owner' option in the mount command you could use in the fstab file. This allows the owner of a volume to mount it. Anyone else has to use the sysadmin password...
[23:35] <zaxonspox> paradoxx: didnt see that even once, i always choose to manually set up my partitions
[23:36] <auf_> zaxonspox, what i can do ?
[23:36] <paradoxx> zaxonspox, how large should I make my os partition vs my home partition?
[23:36] <robokop> is it possible to send a \0 byte when using netcat in interactive mode?
[23:36] <zaxonspox> auf_: ther are many problems with integrated Intel, some people cant even run drivers for ther own Intels
[23:36] <calebgamb> DCC SEND MESSAGE HI_HI_HI
[23:37] <zaxonspox> paradoxx: 5GB for system should do (mine is 10GB for the future) and 50GB for /home
[23:37] <killing> what's up leets
[23:38] <paradoxx> kk
[23:38] <zaxonspox> paradoxx: my is 50GB for home, you can even choose 1GB if it is enough for you
[23:38] <paradoxx> zaxonspox, kk. And then how would I make ubuntu the use /home as user partition
[23:40] <zaxonspox> paradoxx: in partition step you are choosing mountpoints like choosing sda1 with 5GB as / and sda2 with 15GB as /home
[23:40] <Ven]n> Typos_King, ok, tried it from live now
[23:40] <Losha> paradoxx: how much RAM do you have?
[23:40] <paradoxx> Losha, 3GB
[23:40] <Ven]n> got error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)
[23:40] <Ven]n> i now ran sudo grub-install /dev/sdc1
[23:40] <Ven]n> instead of sdb1
[23:41] <Typos_King> ...
[23:41] <Typos_King> ohh one sec
[23:41] <zaxonspox> Ven]n: use the link i have sent, it is all there
[23:41] <paradoxx> zaxonspox, and then the rest of space as like a /data partition?
[23:41] <linuxlurker> I'm using ssh to connect to an old laptop that sits next to me.  Any novel ideas of what I could do with it?  So far I've used it to convert from .avi to mp4 (took about 8 hours to do it)..and its currently playing some mp3s
[23:41] <Losha> paradoxx: if it's a laptop and you want to suspend, you will need a swap partition also...
[23:41] <joshdreamland> Is there a command line that will let me allocate more space to Wubi from a livecd?
[23:41] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   one sec... lemme paste something
[23:41] <joshdreamland> I can't apt-get anything, it thinks I'm entirely out.
[23:41] <zaxonspox> paradoxx: /home is data partitoons (music, movies, fotos) the /   is for system and apps
[23:42] <joshdreamland> I consulted Google, but the information I found was (as usual) from Gutsy and no longer seemed to apply...
[23:43] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   where's the usb?    sdb1?
[23:43] <joshdreamland> basically I'm stuck until I can tell it to give me just a little more space. Deleting things doesn't seem to help.
[23:44] <paradoxx> Losha, How big would you recommend for the swap partition
[23:44] <polydeuces1> hey there, I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand with something :)
[23:44] <joshdreamland> paradoxx: 2x size of RAM
[23:44] <FTMichael> !ask
[23:44] <joshdreamland> polydeuces1: don't ask to ask, just ask
[23:45] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   where's the usb?    sdb1?
[23:45] <polydeuces1> haha, okay thanks. I'm running ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix, and randomly it just cuts to a black screen and I have to restart. anyone have any idea what to do?
[23:45] <zaxonspox> paradoxx: swap depends on size of RAM
[23:45] <FTMichael> I just upgraded from Karmic to Lucid and now instead of a login screen, I just get an empty black screen.  The grub menu won't open for me, for reasons unknown.  It does say 'grub loading' shortly before it craps out.  Someone suggested editing grub.cfg, which I've opened, but I don't know exactly what to do to it.
[23:45] <Losha> paradoxx: is it a laptop that you want to suspend? Then twice the RAM i.e. 6GB. If not, you can get away with less e.g. 3GB. For light use, it might not swap at all, and you won't need a swap partition. You can monitor swap usage after you install by using 'conky'...
[23:46] <Typos_King> polydeuces1:   I'd think it may be your video drivers, checked for any 'restricted' ones?
[23:46] <tijucas> hi.
[23:46] <tijucas> look this
[23:46] <Ven]n> Typos_King, if running from usb its sdb1, if running from live the usb is sdc1
[23:46] <polydeuces1> Hm, I haven't. How do I do that, or what would I do?
[23:46] <Ven]n> Typos_King, sorry for the delay
[23:47] <zaxonspox> Losha why 6GB for SWAP?
[23:47] <tijucas> diego@timon:~$ ls .bashrc
[23:47] <tijucas> .bashrc
[23:47] <tijucas> diego@timon:~$ cat .bashrc
[23:47] <tijucas> cat: .bashrc: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado
[23:47] <tijucas> diego@timon:~$
[23:47] <FloodBot3> tijucas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   sooooo, right now.... you're in a live-cd session, right?
[23:47] <Ven]n> yes
[23:47] <Typos_King> !paste | tijucas
[23:47] <tijucas> I can't head hidden files.
[23:47] <tijucas> ok
[23:47] <tijucas> four lines..
[23:47] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   what's it in that session?   sdb1?
[23:47] <rafaelsoaresbr> paradoxx, <sizeofRAM> + 256Mb
[23:47] <Ven]n> Typos_King, though its actually a live usb
[23:47] <zaxonspox> Losha "who" will need such a big SWAP? if you want to suspend SWAP should be in size of RAM
[23:48] <Ven]n> Typos_King, the live "cd" is sdb1
[23:48] <Ven]n> Typos_King, mounted on "/cdrom"
[23:48] <Losha> zaxonspox: I forget. The old guideline was twice the ram for swap, until RAM got so big that that equation didn't really hold any longer. Now the best thing to do is be conservative and monitor swap usage till you know your machine better...
[23:48] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   what about ... heheh.... ok... what device is it the usb you want grub at?   sdb2?
[23:48] <Ven]n> Typos_King, the usb key with the installation is currently sdc1
[23:48] <Ven]n> sdc1
[23:49] <zaxonspox> Losha: now your make sens again
[23:49] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   ok, one sec, lemme paste something
[23:49] <Ven]n> ok
[23:50] <Losha> paradoxx: as you can see, there's not much consensus on swap sizing...
[23:51] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   -> http://paste2.org/p/782268  <--- it needs to be done in a 'chroot' session :)
[23:51] <tijucas> hi. is somebody having trouble opening 'hidden' files?
[23:51] <Ven]n> chroot?
[23:52] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   yes, a 'installation' logged session, thus you had the grub error before :)
[23:52] <Ven]n> ok
[23:52] <Ven]n> trying
[23:52] <zaxonspox> tijucas: like what? what is your problem?
[23:52] <Typos_King> k
[23:52] <Typos_King> tijucas:  no I
[23:53] <Losha> robokop: I don't know how you'd send a null byte. I don't think netcat understands any escape chars...
[23:53] <tijucas> zaxonspox: eg $ cat .bashrc -> no such file or directory
[23:53] <tijucas> zaxonspox: but the file exists
[23:54] <zaxonspox> tijucas: FROM where running command? type pwd
[23:54] <Losha> tijucas: what about cat ~/.bashrc ?
[23:54] <robokop> Losha: has xterm perhaps some escape chars?
[23:54] <tijucas> Losha: don't work
[23:54] <zaxonspox> tijucas: type pwd and paste it here
[23:54] <Ven]n> Typos_King, got the same error now
[23:54] <tijucas> diego@timon:~$ pwd
[23:54] <tijucas> /home/diego
[23:55] <Ven]n> the blocklists thing
[23:55] <Ven]n> should I use --force ?
[23:55] <tijucas> diego@timon:~$ ls .bashrc
[23:55] <tijucas> .bashrc
[23:55] <Losha> robokop: Not that I know of. And Netcat just reads stdin. A great question, wish I knew the answer....
[23:55] <tijucas> diego@timon:~$ cat .bashrc
[23:55] <tijucas> cat: .bashrc: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado
[23:55] <tijucas> the system is in portuguese
[23:56] <tijucas> this is no such file or directory
[23:56] <zaxonspox> tijucas: type cat .<press TAB twice>
[23:56] <Outlier> To set up a quick minimal system to test on some ~1-2 year old hardware, would you recommend 8.04 or 9.10 ?
[23:56] <Ven]n> Typos_King, got the attempting to install grub to ..., embedding is not possible, only by blocklist, if you really want to, use --force
[23:56] <polydeuces> Greetings all, sorry I've been cutting in and out... I'm trying to fix this problem. I keep having random crashes (screen goes black, sound skips) Someone suggested restricted video drivers. I have an acer aspire one netbook with the 945 intel chipset family, is there a specific way to update the drivers?
[23:56] <Losha> tijucas: can you do an ls -la and paste the output to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and tell us the url?
[23:56] <Ely> Hello everyone, whenever I open Firefox or Chrome browsers, they do not remember the last position on the screen, they go back and open to the left of my screen, anyway to make them remember the last position? thanks in advance.
[23:57] <Ven]n> ill do the force
[23:57] <tijucas> Losha: ls -a show all files
[23:57] <tijucas> but I cant open a file that starts with a dot
[23:57] <Losha> Outlier: 8.04 is very stable and for that reason, I would prefer it...
[23:57] <zaxonspox> Losha: is ubuntu.paste for registered paste/view?
[23:57] <tijucas> .vimrc .bashrc
[23:57] <zaxonspox> tijucas: type cat .<press TAB twice>
[23:57] <Losha> zaxonspox: I'm not sure. But it's a nuisance having to register just to paste things...
[23:58] <Outlier> Losha: sounds good.  I guess as long as it recognizes the hardware, its new enough.
[23:58] <Ven]n> rebooting to test..
[23:58] <moreia> Ack! I foolishly installed Shredder and Namoroka and I just want my old Thunderbird and Firefox back. I cant force the lower versions in synaptic, though: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."/"E: Unable to lock the download directory"
[23:58] <Losha> tijucas: ls -al <-- show all files, long listing....
[23:58] <gabrielcz> Hello all...
[23:58] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   k
[23:58] <moreia> Not sure where to start solving that.
[23:58] <Dezine> I just installed the latest 10.04, nice by the way. I am wondering if the minimize buttons and stuff are supposed to be on the left? Or is that a  bug?
[23:58] <gabrielcz> I just install a lamp box with ubuntu server 9.10
[23:58] <Pici> Dezine : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[23:58] <Ven]n> Typos_King, no luck.. ill try again tomorrow
[23:58] <zaxonspox> Losha: few days ago someone paste there a code gave me a link and i couldn view it - sayed "Register"
[23:58] <Ven]n> Typos_King, thanks for your help
[23:58] <Dezine> Thanks Pici
[23:58] <aguitel> i am with live cd ,how check errors for bad sectors in the hd with terminal
[23:59] <gabrielcz> I have a question about apache multisites, I add a new site, and it will looks on default directory...
[23:59] <wabash> Hi. I am using 9.10. It's great, but some of the packages, namely sw dev packages, lag terribly behind their individual releases on their project websites. Is it possible to get packages for 10.04 and install them on a 9.10 box?
[23:59] <gabrielcz> any clue?
[23:59] <Losha> Outlier: 9.10 is reasonably stable by now, so in a pinch, it wouldn't really matter which you chose...
[23:59] <Typos_King> Ven]n:   are you... sure the usb is set to boot first? odd
[23:59] <tijucas> Losha: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/BGJqTHuf
[23:59] <Losha> zaxonspox: another reason to avoid it. Though it's good to register a nick anyway...