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apple_catsithlord48: I didn't think xorg.conf did anything anymore ?00:03
sithlord48apple_cat, it does just not by default.00:04
txwikingerapple_cat: most of the time it works with the default configuration, but you can still add things or change it00:04
TommyThaGunhow do you change the my video output from 32 to 16 in KDE?00:20
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Typos_KingTommyThaGun:   do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?00:27
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WXZhey I'm using gubuntu for the first time since about yesterday and I love it00:48
WXZbut I can't seem to find support on how to set up different panels on different workspaces00:48
WXZis it possible in kubuntu?00:48
Typos_Kinggubuntu?00:52
Typos_Kingthat's a new one00:52
Typos_Kingheh00:52
francoisI've copied all the .deb files from another installation's /var/cache/apt/archives to a new install, hoping that those packages will be detected and not downloaded over again, however it is not detected, is there a way to let apt know of the available packages?01:23
Typos_Kingwell01:24
Typos_King...01:24
Typos_Kingwhat happens when you try to install something?01:24
francoisit does the normal thing where it says it needs to download the dependency packages, however all the needed packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives01:25
Typos_Kingright01:26
Typos_King...01:26
Typos_KingI assume both installations, the other and this one are the same versions?01:26
francoisexactly01:27
Typos_Kingwell01:27
Typos_Kingit usually should, not always, cuz you have to keep.... what version is it again? 9.1?01:27
francoislucid beta101:27
Typos_Kinganyhow, there's a channel for it you know :|01:27
Typos_Kinghehe01:28
francoisoh hehe, though I don't think it's something specific to lucid01:28
Typos_Kingbut, keep in mind that, when you do a sudo apt-get update;   it gets a new list and the newer list may not reflect older installation versions, even by say a number, like 2.2.1 to 2.2.301:28
Typos_Kingso, if the  list has been updated since you installed those .deb, then that'd explain why01:29
francoiscould I do a manual install from the archives directory?01:29
Typos_Kingsure01:29
francoissounds messy01:29
Typos_Kingin fact, I did just two days ago :)01:29
Typos_KingI back up my .debs too :)01:30
francoiscool =)01:30
Typos_Kingnot as messy, I gather, though I keep them separated01:30
francoishehe I'd have to ask, because it's 2h30am and I'm asleep01:30
francoishow do I install it manually01:30
Typos_Kingwhat I do is, say I  install, firefox, then go to the archives folder, and get them, and put them in their own folder, then I do a 'clean' to clean the archive and get other install files01:31
Typos_Kingwell01:31
Typos_Kingif you know for one01:31
Typos_Kingthat all .debs you have there, contain all dependencies needed for all packages there, then just sudo dpkg -i01:32
Typos_Kingif you're sure that's the case, all dependencies are met, otherwise, you'll find out when you try to run the app :)01:32
francoisgreat will try that thx so much Typos_King01:32
Typos_Kingor..... you can.... install all, and do a -> sudo apt-get -f install;   to see if any dependency is missing01:33
francoisok01:33
Typos_Kinganyhow, dump all .debs to a directory, and do a -> sudo dpkg -i *;01:33
Typos_King* will take all in one whamo for a install, and you'll get warnings, but dpkg will do it anyway01:34
francoisok hope it works01:34
Typos_Kingwhen done, do a -> sudo apt-get -f install; for any missing stuff :) or errors01:34
Typos_Kingand apt-get will download any extras01:35
jhamboHi folks, fresh install of 9.10 here.  My wireless card is "Intel Corporation WiFi Link 100 Series" which seems to use the iwlagn module.  I can connect to WPA personal wireless at home but I'm unable to connect to the WPA enterprise network at school.  Is there anything I can do to get WPA-enterprise working???01:35
Typos_KingI'd say yes01:37
Typos_Kingditch knetworkmanager, and install -> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome; and retry with that01:37
Typos_KingI'm thinking it may be the network manager, thus01:38
francoisTypos_King: I've looked more closely and it does seem that apt-get only wants to download the newer versions01:39
Typos_Kingfrancois:   yeah, my .debs I had were several weeks old... so... .thus my manual intall :), but it all went ok, I only had to dl 1 file :)01:40
Typos_Kingand as I said, I keep my .debs package-separated in their own folder, and I'd run like that using *01:41
Typos_Kingthere might have been... 2 or 3 packages that apt-get did cuz the version was still the same in the repositories :)01:41
jhamboTypos_King: I tried installing network-manager-gnome and using that instead of the kde network manager but I still can't connect to WPA enterprise networks.  WICD wont let me connect either.  In short it's impossible for me to connect to the WPA enterprise protected network at school, rendering my laptop almost useless in ubuntu...  :(02:00
jhambobtw it works in Debian lenny02:01
Typos_Kingheheh02:02
Typos_Kingmaybe.... you're missing stuff02:02
jhambolike?02:02
Typos_Kinginstall the linux-backports-modules maybe02:03
jhambotried that already02:03
Typos_King.. has to be something... can't say02:04
Typos_Kingsince I don't connect to wpa enterprise02:04
jhambowell thanks for the try02:05
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[Relic]Is there a shut down log or a way to make one?  I want to know what keeps throwing the warning bells on my motherboard03:28
txwikinger[Relic]: look at the dmesg or kernel logs03:37
[Relic]looks like everything is from boot on03:43
txwikingerwell. from boot until it is shutdown03:44
[Relic]and I need the whole shut down record to see what is making the motherboard alarm go off03:45
[Relic]so once it shuts down, there isn't anything there since I have to reboot to check03:46
txwikingerthe old log is kept and new started when you reboot03:51
spauldingIs there a known issue with Firefox crashing/freezing when trying to view video?03:56
txwikinger[Relic]: look at dmesg.0,, dmesg.1.gz etc03:57
txwikingerspaulding: not that I know of.. I can watch videos03:57
txwikingerwhich release of Kubuntu/Firefox do you use?03:57
spaulding10.04 and 3.7.. had same issue on 9.10 with 3.7.. thinking its ff03:58
spauldingchrome works :p03:58
txwikinger3.7? I have 3.6.3 FF03:59
spauldingyea.. stable will probably work.. have issues with all the pre, beta, and alpha builds in windows too03:59
txwikingeris it 64bit or 32bit03:59
spauldingwas jw if it was me.. ff is 32 bit only os's are 6403:59
txwikingerwell.. you need to have the right build of FF04:00
spauldingthere is no 64bit FF.. 64 bit browsers arent compatable with most websites04:01
spauldingMozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a4pre) Gecko/20100407 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Minefield/3.7a4pre04:01
spauldingas i said its not a biggy just annoying.. FF has been having issues i think the past month or so.. btw this is my first time in a irc channel in id say 4-5 years04:02
[Relic]flash 64bit has serious problems04:04
txwikingerwell.. still there is a difference between 64bit and 32bit04:04
txwikingerI have encoutered certain bugs only on 64bit systems04:04
spauldingi havent even tried messing with 64bit browsin.. tried for all of about 5 min.. pissed me off and was like screw this..04:04
spauldingstill learnin the basics in kubuntu reason some things kinda make no sense crashed like 3 different wubi installs before i finally did a legit partition install04:06
txwikingerwell. wubi is more a test install04:06
spauldingtrue.. good to see if you like it and wanna try04:07
spauldingbad because it is finiky04:08
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iconmefistowhen I try switching to a VT, I get a blank screen with blinking cursor. any ideas?04:16
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txwikingericonmefisto: check if the vts are enabled in upstart04:47
iconmefistotxwikinger: where do I check that? I don't understand how upstart works04:48
txwikingericonmefisto: look in /etc/init/ for the tty?conf files04:50
txwikingercheck which runlevels they will be started04:50
Baali just installed a new geforce gt 220 on my kubuntu 10.04 beta but says "out of range" after showing the bios info04:51
Baalplease help04:52
iconmefistotxwikinger: tty1.conf says "start on stopped rc RUNLEVEL=[2345]". all the others say [23]04:53
txwikingeryep.. that is why they don't start04:53
txwikingermake them 2345 too04:54
txwikingeror start them manually via "sudo start tty2" etc04:54
txwikingerBaal: you might need the newest driver from nvidia04:54
iconmefistotxwikinger: but why is tty1 not starting?04:55
Baaltxwikinger: can install it with other card and then reinstall?04:56
Baalcause i can't do anything right now04:56
txwikingerbaal.. start the install disk with some other option04:56
txwikingeryou can select some things with the f-keys04:57
Baalok04:57
Baalthanks txwikinger04:57
txwikingericonmefisto: do you have any errors in the rc startup?04:57
txwikingermaybe it does not get to the point where it accepts rc as started04:58
iconmefistotxwikinger: errors where? is there a log file?04:58
txwikingeryes might be05:01
txwikingerdmesg, kernel log or other logs in /var/log05:01
iconmefistoedited tty2.conf. I'm going to reboot and see if tty2 works now.05:03
iconmefistotxwikinger: still no tty's after the edit. but at least now I have some idea how it's supposed to work05:09
txwikinger:)05:09
moderndayzerohello, and sorry if im in the wrong room but i have a question me and a buddy of mine have been trying to get the "extra" option and compiz working in 9.10 using ati radeon with no luck any clues?05:10
txwikingerdid you try the start command?05:10
iconmefistosudo start tty1 ? yes, that starts a VT05:11
txwikingermoderndayzero: that looks like a driver issue05:11
txwikingericonmefisto: well.. somehow upstart does not seem to trigger the start05:12
moderndayzeroyep05:13
txwikingermoderndayzero: ask in the #ubuntu channel.. it is not kde-specific and there might be some people with an ati adapter05:13
moderndayzerowe installed the new kernel but were missing some package i belive but im lost at this point05:13
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principal25hola?09:13
iconmefisto!es09:14
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.09:14
vivek_!09:17
principal25#ubuntu-es09:18
principal25hola?09:19
moetunesit's   /j #ubuntu-es principal2509:19
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Morphingerhallo zusammen09:35
vivekhii!  I just came across a blog.. it was some review of Mandriva .. and the guy says that"Due to the strength of Linux, a typical Mandriva Linux system can run for months without a reboot.".. what does this mean.. what in linux makes this possible.. hope my question is clear...(and yes as you rightly guessed I am a newbie)09:42
dimaHi. Is this a right place to ask lucid-specific question?09:42
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moetunesdima: try in #ubuntu+1 - that's the lucid channel for now09:43
dimamoetunes: kubuntu as well?09:44
moetunesdima: yep09:44
nighteaglehello :)09:54
Morphingerhallo09:55
Morphingergerman??????09:55
moetunes!de09:55
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.09:55
Morphingerdanke09:55
moetunesnp09:55
robinking623Morphinger: lol10:02
robinking623Morphinger: sprichst du kein englisch?10:03
tomatto_hello10:16
tomatto_please, how to change root password after instalation?10:17
moetunestomatto_: there's no root password - use sudo and your login password10:17
moetunes!root10:18
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo10:18
tomatto_I need root! no sudo10:18
llutztomatto_: sudo -i10:18
khaije|amaltthe keyboard detection steps when newly installing ubuntu... how do i re-run that... the attached keyboard on my laptop works fine but with the bluetooth keyboard ctrl, alt, shift etc. don't work properly10:19
tomatto_llutz: it want to change user password, no root10:20
llutztomatto_: "passwd"10:20
llutzerr10:20
llutztomatto_: if you need a root-console, use "sudo -i" followed by your user-password10:21
llutztomatto_: activating root-account isn't supported and rarely needed in *buntu10:21
tomatto_how do you tking isn't supported? linux must have root account10:22
llutz!sudo | tomatto_10:22
ubottutomatto_: sudo is a command to run command-line ( see !cli ) programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)10:22
tomatto_i know what sudo is10:22
llutztomatto_: but you don't know how *buntu works10:23
llutz Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo10:23
tomatto_llutz: i don't want to know how *ubuntu works, i need to use it for myself10:24
llutztomatto_: and i told you that it isn't supported here10:24
tomatto_llutz: how root cannot be supported? how is it possible10:25
llutztomatto_: and if you wouldn't refuse to read, you would have your answer already10:25
moetunestomatto_: mac does it the same way - no root account - the user has admin rights or not10:26
tomatto_how switch i to another keymap?10:27
freyrhi there ! can anyone tell me how can i cut some characters from a folder name ? (e.g. i have this folder name: d1-123456 and i want to have only 123456)10:28
freyri want to do that for about 20+ directories automatically10:29
moetunesfreyr: right click - select rename or in konsole   mv -v d1-123456 12345610:29
llutzfreyr: look at "mmv" or "rename"10:30
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freyrthanks guys10:34
tomatto_root is working...nice10:36
freyranother short question: how can i compare the names of two directories ?10:37
tomatto_how can i configure X ?10:38
iconmefisto_tomatto_: is X not working?10:43
tomatto_iconmefisto_: working, but have wrong resolution and doesn't set higher than 800x60010:44
tomatto_iconmefisto_: what can i do with?10:46
iconmefisto_!resolution | tomatto_10:47
ubottutomatto_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution10:47
iconmefisto_tomatto_: do you have proprietary drivers installed?10:48
tomatto_no, i am running it in virtualbox10:49
llutztomatto_: install guest-additions and join #vbox10:49
tomatto_llutz: where is settings for loaded driver, when i haven't xorg.conf?10:52
llutztomatto_: create one, if you need. but you have to install guest-additions to make it work. ask at #vbox for more virtualbox-related support10:53
tomatto_kubuntu has guest-x11 package...10:53
tomatto_llutz: can i work without xorg.conf?10:54
llutztomatto_: you can, there is no xorg.conf by default anymore10:54
kgeek_have u guyzz heard abt garena ?10:54
tomatto_llutz: how can i add mode for resoluton? i make modeline for my resolution and add it to xrandr modes, but it still don't want to set. why?10:58
iconmefisto_tomatto_: join #vbox channel. you need to install guest additions in virtualbox11:01
tomatto_iconmefisto_: guest additions is already installed! but i have not right resolution11:01
iconmefisto_tomatto_: //join #vbox11:02
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francoisI made a swapfile with dd, and now I'd like to make it a bit bigger, but dd doesn't want to do anything if I: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap.img seek=8186760 obs=1kB count=011:47
bentob0xwhile upgrading to 9.10, the update software showed me an 'hdparm.conf' diff between my version and the new 9.10 one.  I clicked on 'keep my version' but I would like to see the diff again to see what is different, how can I get my hand on a clean copy of the most recent version of hdparam.conf?11:48
iconmefisto_bentob0x: have you tried reinstalling it to see if it shows you again?11:52
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francoisHow can I resize a image file with dd?12:02
noaXesshow to get the curren trunlevel of a system?12:48
llutzrunlevel12:48
noaXessi get unknown.. hm.. ssh won't start automaticaly on boot12:48
noaXessin which /etc/rc?.d should S16ssh be linked? rc5.d and rc3.d?.. for normal boot, wiht X/KDM?12:49
llutzrunlevel will become obsolete with upstart, afaik12:50
llutznoaXess: sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults12:50
llutznoaXess: on *buntu rl 2-5 are equal12:51
noaXessllutz: i get this.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/419188/12:52
llutznoaXess: "sudo update-rc.d -f ssh remove && sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults"12:54
noaXessssh still not start automatically :(13:07
noaXesssome other service won't start to automatically..13:08
noaXesshm...13:08
noaXessseams it's not a application problem.. it's another..13:08
llutzcheck logs13:08
naught101I can't see my samba server in smb://my-laptop in konqueror, but I can see it with smbclient -L naught-laptop13:08
noaXesshave also virtualbox on that machine.. which won't start the vboxdrv automatically13:09
noaXessllutz: and search for?13:09
naught101anyone know how to get it working? I've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba fairly closely...13:09
llutznoaXess: anything errr-related13:09
llutznoaXess: do the sevice start if you call them  manually?13:09
noaXessllutz: yes.. and works normal after manuall start..13:10
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iconmefistonoaXess: I had that problem. with me it was an upstart bug. bug 50052013:16
noaXessiconmefisto: launchpad bug i think :)..13:16
iconmefistohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/50052013:16
noaXessiconmefisto: thanks.. will check that13:17
tumiiHow do I mount other partitions of a hard drive?13:17
iconmefisto!mount13:19
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or !QtParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter13:19
noaXessiconmefisto: i just found this upstart entry in initctl list: upstart-udev-bridge13:22
noaXessupstart-udev-bridge start/running, process 43913:22
noaXessis that a part of upstart?13:22
noaXesshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/419215/13:23
iconmefistonoaXess: I downgraded upstart 0.6.3-11 to 0.6.3-1013:27
noaXessiconmefisto: right on that way.13:27
noaXessno change.. :(.. hm..13:30
iconmefistonoaXess: some solved the problem with /etc/network/interfaces: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305226&page=413:31
noaXessiconmefisto: have checked that.. also no change..13:32
iconmefistonoaXess: so now you have upstart 0.6.3-10 ?13:33
noaXessiconmefisto: not yet.. have upgraded.. to 11 cause it was the same problem with v1013:33
noaXessseams be another problem13:33
noaXessmy /etc/netwok/interfaces: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419222/13:34
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appleseedI have added swapspace larger than my ram, and when I hibernate or try to suspend to ram, I get a flickering cursor and then a screen lock prompt. Is there something I have to do to enable hibernation after having added swap?13:50
llutzappleseed: add it to /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume13:52
appleseedActually looking more closely I can see a "USB freeze error" referring to my wifi usb dongle not wanting to suspend or something13:52
appleseedllutz: ok will try that13:52
noaXessiconmefisto: ok.. seams that i can't get it running.. how to start all services that should be run on boot, manually?13:52
llutzRESUME=UUID=1234-5432-123413:52
llutzappleseed: use UUID of your swap-partition13:52
llutzappleseed: "sudo update-initramfs" after that13:54
appleseedllutz: thx so much hope it works13:54
iconmefistonoaXess: sorry, I can't help with that. I don't understand the boot process too well.13:54
noaXessok.. iconmefisto but thanks for hint's13:55
appleseedllutz: actually I use a swap image file /swapfile so can I add RESUME=/swapfile ?13:55
llutzappleseed: i'm not sure if you can suspend to swap-file13:55
noaXessany other.. some service won't start automatically.. still have tried to downgrade upstart, check /etc/netwrok/interfaces.. but no success.. now.. how can i run manually all nessecary services that should be run at bootime, without starting each one himself.. )13:55
appleseedllutz: i'll try your advice and see what happens13:56
llutzappleseed:the swsusp hibernation implementation needs a partition, won't suspend to a file13:58
llutzappleseed: tuxonice does13:59
OxymoronWhy isnt KDevelop4 ppa updated to RC3?14:25
txwikingerOxymoron: probably because nobody got to do it yet.. do you want to volunteer?14:28
Oxymorontxwikinger: Sure, if nobody else is up to it so sure.14:28
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isaac__In Windows, in wireless internet settings you can set it to automatically connect to ANY open wireless network.  Dangerous in some cases yes, but in a university setting with multiple wifi connect points it's handy.14:37
isaac__Is there any way to do this in Ubuntu?  Because I really want to.14:37
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NCommanderJust a stupid question, has anyone gotten ubuntu one to work under Kubuntu?15:14
shadeslayerNCommander: yeah15:24
NCommandershadeslayer: on lucid?15:24
shadeslayerNCommander: just install the ubuntu-desktop package and logout and choose gnome15:24
shadeslayerNCommander: it should work...15:24
NCommandershadeslayer: *shiver*.15:25
shadeslayerNCommander: why?15:25
shadeslayerNCommander: also #ubuntu+1 should have a better idea15:25
NCommandershadeslayer: I have strong feelings about GNOME, and I try to avoid to have it installed :-/15:25
shadeslayerNCommander: same here15:25
shadeslayerNCommander: my Qt libs hate the GTK ones :D15:25
NCommandershadeslayer: fight, fight, fight?15:26
NCommandershadeslayer: thats not my issue, but yeah15:26
shadeslayerNCommander: at one time i had Lubuntu+Ubuntu+Kubuntu+Xubuntu :P15:27
shadeslayerNCommander: then KDE became awesome and took over my bandwidth :D15:27
NCommandershadeslayer: ahahahahaha15:27
NCommanderwin15:27
iconmefistoNCommander: http://jjesse.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/installing-ubuntu-one-on-kubuntu-9-10/15:28
shadeslayerNCommander: oh man15:28
NCommandericonmefisto: doesn't work on 10.0415:29
shadeslayerNCommander: i thought you meant installing ubuntu on kubuntu... missed out 'one'15:29
NCommandershadeslayer: ;-)15:29
shadeslayerNCommander: hold on15:29
renzostop15:29
iconmefistoI didn't even know about "ubuntu one", but if it's like dropbox, I'm not really interested as I'm using dropbox now15:29
renzochannel15:30
shadeslayerNCommander: you might want to talk to apachelogger in kubuntu-devel or where ever you can catch him15:32
NCommandericonmefisto: google is your friend on U115:32
shadeslayericonmefisto: dropbox released kdropbox a few days ago15:33
tomatto_please, how change locales to cz?15:48
tomatto_iso... no utf8?15:48
llutztomatto_: sudo dpkg-reconfgure locales15:49
llutztomatto_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales15:49
tomatto_llutz: it generates only for utf815:52
morphingerhallo  zusammen16:17
morphingerhabe firefox install und das quakelive wo wird das plug......16:18
alakoo!de16:19
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anjWhy am I seeing "cannot examine encrypted directory" before console logins?16:26
anjI don't have an encrypted directory.16:27
anjOf course, that might be why it cannot examine it. :/16:27
crystuferHey, how do I tell what mount driver ubuntu is using to mount my ntfs drive?16:40
crystuferMy current fstab looks like this (/dev/sda1 /media/Home ntfs-3g  user,defaults 0 0) but the partition doesn't work like that. It works if I comment that line out and restart the pc though. But I have to let kde do it by clicking on the drive.16:44
txwikingercrystufer: you use ntfs-3g16:48
tomatto_what is newest version of kubuntu?16:50
crystufertxwikinger: could you expand on that though?16:50
crystufertomatto_: 9.1 karmic koala I believe.16:50
crystufertomatto_: Unless you want the beta.16:50
txwikingertomatto_: lucid lynx 10.4 will be out 29th of this month16:50
txwikingercrystufer: that is the driver you seem to use16:51
txwikingerNot sure what you want to know16:52
crystufertxwikinger: That's the one I tried to use on my fstab. But it didn't work, remember. So I wanted a command to ask the computer what it's using right now so that I can specify that in my fstab.16:52
txwikingerdid you ever try just ntfs16:52
crystufertxwikinger: I did not. Is that an option?16:52
txwikingerI would think so16:52
* txwikinger does not have an ntfs partition around to test it16:53
txwikingerhowever that is how I always did it in the past16:53
crystuferI'll try that. Thank you.16:57
tommyqHi! I'm trying to plug my Garmin GPS to Kubuntu but after garmin_gps probing /dev/ttyUSB* isn't created. Does anyone know where the problem is?17:09
tommyqLinux tiger 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:14
tommyqAnother info on demand17:14
txwikingertommyq: have you ever look at this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/USB_Garmin_on_GNU/Linux ?17:15
tommyqtxwikinger: Yes, I have. Actually there is no info for me. They count with fact, the device creates after you probe the module. But it has no happend in my case.17:18
txwikingerwell.. maybe it is a permission problem17:19
txwikingerhow do you probe the device17:19
tommyqsudo modprobe garmin_gps :)17:19
tommyqI found in messages there should be message like "USB Serial support registered for Garmin GPS usb/tty to /dev/ttyUSB0"17:21
tommyqBut I've got "USB Serial support registered for Garmin GPS usb/tty" only - It means without device determination17:21
tommyqAnd the device doesn't create17:22
tommyqI found similar problem with 0.32 version of this driver but there's 0.33 in kernel 2.6.3217:23
txwikingernot sure. and I don't have my garmin here atm to test17:25
tommyqI found also that there should be mounted usbfs to /proc/bus/usb, but there's no /proc/bus/usb17:29
judgenHowdy.17:34
judgenWhere is the settings for the compositing effects? i cant seem to find them.17:34
tommyqjudgen: Settings>General>Desktop>17:37
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judgentommyq: thanks.17:44
judgenhow do i make windows unable to be outside the desktop? I want them to not be able to go outside the visual area, but rather snap back inside.17:45
demismanyone get netflix working?17:47
demismOn another note, how can I get my touchpad mouse to disable upon connection of a usb mouse?17:49
demismUnder the mouse settings, the touchpad tab is not functional17:53
judgenis medibuntu down?17:54
iconmefistojudgen: yep17:55
iconmefistojudgen: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html17:55
vbgunz_why does visiting youtube in konqueror always say to upgrade my flash?17:59
vbgunz_this is becoming a real annoyance. I never had this problem and my flash doesn't need upgrading *but* this happens in konqueror a lot now. if I close firefox and all instances of konqueror then relaunch konqueror right on to youtube, youtube works, no warnings.18:00
iconmefistovbgunz_: only on youtube? or any flash content?18:06
vbgunz_hmm, im googling and it appears its a bug with youtube18:07
gcalaI, have installed lucid some weeks ago and used it without important problems; now I have installed catalyst driver from repository and they work good except that the boot splash screen isn't in native resolution (like with opensource ati driver) but in low-res and low-color depth; need some xorg.conf or grub special configuration? thanks18:14
tomatto_txwikinger: can i upgrade from 9.1 to 10.4 ?18:14
Picigcala : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.18:16
gcalaPici: ok, thanks18:16
ricardo_hello18:30
tomatto_can i upgrade from 9.1 to 10.4 ?18:30
ricardo_hi, i need to restrict acces to ms messenger from some computer in my network, so how to do this with ip tables ???18:31
rorktomatto_: 10.4 is still in beta but you can get it here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.04-lts-beta-218:31
tomatto_rork: i know where download it. but i am asking can i upgrade from 9.1 to 10.4 if i have 9.1 already installed? after 10.4 will be full version18:33
rorktomatto_: ofcourse you can, make sure to keep your userfiles though, either by backing them up, keeping them on a separate partition or using apt-get dist-upgrade18:35
tomatto_rork: great18:35
ricardo_noone know hot to block ms messenger with ip tables???18:36
iconmefistotomatto_: there's a link on that page with upgrade instructions18:39
txwikingertomatto_: you can upgrade either via the upgrade-manager or via the alternate iso18:44
txwikinger!upgrade > tomatto_18:48
ubottutomatto_, please see my private message18:48
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ricardohello19:29
ricardoi'm getting a message saying that ipmas has no candidate for installation, some body can help me??19:29
moetunesricardo: try in console   apt-cache search ipmas   that might give a clue what to install19:31
moetuness/console/konsole19:31
ricardo:( nothing19:32
ricardoipmasq is not on repositories now??19:32
moetunesricardo: have you enabled the extra repos?19:33
moetunes!repos19:33
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories19:33
ricardomultiverse universe (everything)19:34
moetunesricardo: there might not be a package built for it then19:35
moetuneswhat is it?19:35
txwikingerapt-cache policy <packagename> shows you if there is a package available and/or installed19:35
ricardonothing, i always use ipmasq to share internet conection, so now how to??19:36
Piciricardo: impmasq is no longer in debian either, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=53838419:37
ricardokk, so then ???19:37
ricardohow to share internet conection?19:37
Piciricardo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing19:39
ricardonot working for share conection19:42
TommyThaGunin Kmail I keep getting this error: "Error while getting folder information. Unable to get information about folder [Gmail]. The server replied: Invalid folder: [Gmail] (Failure)"20:16
TommyThaGunI think it's because because I'm viewing my main via IMAP google created a subfolders within a "gmail" folder, and kmail is trying to get mail for the folger "gmail" and there is none20:17
TommyThaGunI tried unsubscribing from gmail though and you can't20:18
TommyThaGunany thoughts? ever run into this issue before? the notification errors are a neusance. If I left it running I would come back and have 36 of them for every hours I was gone20:20
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TommyThaGunit's really annoying20:31
TommyThaGunhaha20:31
Delemiri wish i had an answer for you but im not so familiar with that kind of problem20:32
TommyThaGunI just changed teh notifications settings20:37
TommyThaGunwe'll see if that changes it20:37
TommyThaGunthat changed nothing20:39
TommyThaGunoh well, back to kmail20:40
TommyThaGuner..20:40
TommyThaGunthunderbird20:40
TommyThaGunwhoa20:43
TommyThaGunnow that I closed kmail my fans calmed down and my system seems a lot more responsive20:44
Delemirthe process kmail was probably eating up all your cpu power i guess...20:47
judgenWow, an dist-update is really slow... i mean the download was fast, but now at unpacking its slow as dirt.. think it has been working for an hour or so.20:57
iconmefistoan hour?20:57
judgenyeah maybe more.20:58
judgenyay it started with the settings now. Pretty neat, and my friends always claim complaining does not help =D20:59
iconmefistohow many packages? that seems like a very long time, unless you're doing other cpu/memory intensive things at the same time20:59
judgen~1gb of packages downloaded. 1200+ packages.20:59
judgenirc and kopete is the only things running besides the konsole where i do the dist-upgrade.21:00
iconmefistooh ok. have you just upgraded or something?21:00
judgenkarmic>lucid.21:00
judgenis what im doing.21:01
judgenSorry for the multiple lines, my brin does not always function properly.21:01
txwikingerjudgen: You should not use dist-upgrade for upgradin from one release to another21:02
txwikingeryou better use do-release-upgrade for that21:02
iconmefistohave you done the release upgrade, now doing an update/dist-upgrade? or are you doing the upgrade to lucid some other way?21:02
judgennope, just the way i've always done it.... dist upgrade.21:03
iconmefistoa simple dist-upgrade won't upgrade to the next release21:04
txwikingerjudgen: dist-upgrade often does not do dpendencies correctly.. just an hint.. you can do whatever you want21:04
judgenoh ok, didnt know that...21:04
judgendarnit, forgot to backup my grub config...21:05
txwikingerI mean when you move from one release to another.. .dist-upgrade is for updating all packages that have been updated within a release21:06
iconmefistojudgen: dist-upgrade is like a normal apt-get upgrade, but it can handle changing dependencies or package name changes21:07
judgenoh well, too bad im almost done then..21:08
judgenaaw man, it reinstalled gnome...21:08
iconmefistobut 1200 packages? you didn't change your sources to lucid, did you?21:08
judgenyup21:08
txwikingerwell upgrade is better when you use repositories that are changing a lot.. because it handles better situation when part of the dependencies are not available in the repo without breaking anything21:09
judgenbut what about the magical cow powers =D21:09
judgeni also hope it wont brake some of my apps. but we will see. Amarok 1.4 is just awsome.21:10
iconmefistoamarok 1.4? wasn't that kde3?21:12
tomatto_please, what package is for skype?21:12
tomatto_i could not find it21:12
iconmefistotomatto_: download the .deb from the website21:13
judgentomatto_: its in medibuntu, alternatively you download it from skype.com21:13
iconmefistojudgen: I don't think it's in medibuntu any more21:13
judgeniconmefisto: indeed its in kde3, i have both kde3 and 4 installed.21:13
judgeniconmefisto: oh ok.21:13
judgenim off to see if the system still boots. =D21:14
tomatto_please, do you have medibuntu.list?21:20
iconmefisto!medibuntu21:20
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org21:20
tomatto_why is it write to me, medibuntu connection refused?21:24
judgenSeems to be working fine, with two odd problems. One is the annoying splash that never stops when booting (i boot into cli) and the kopete icon no longer show up in the kicker.21:25
judgen(systray that is)21:25
iconmefistojudgen: is the kopete icon hidden perhaps?21:26
iconmefistotomatto_: medibuntu servers seem to be having problems lately. you can use a mirror: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html21:28
judgeniconmefisto: could be, is there a setting that i dont know about perhaps?21:28
judgeniconmefisto: what new app does lucid use for that awful splash?21:29
iconmefistojudgen: I mean hidden in the systray. click the < button to see hidden icons (if any)21:29
judgendont have any such button.21:29
iconmefistojudgen: on the left of the systray?21:30
judgennow i do, but no kopete isnt hidden.21:30
judgeni had disabled the featre of hidden icons.21:30
iconmefistojudgen: plymouth is what does the splash in lucid. lucid support in #ubuntu+121:31
judgeniconmefisto: ok thanks though.21:31
iconmefistojudgen: if you're thinking about uninstalling plymouth, that's not gonna work21:32
judgendisabling it then?21:32
iconmefistojudgen: I think removing "splash" from kernel line in grub. or changing it to "nosplash". I think either is the same21:33
judgenyeah i did that now.21:36
txwikingertomatto_: mediuntu is down at the moment21:40
judgenwhere is the cli login screen's colour settings located?21:49
tomatto_how to do liveusb from livecd kubuntu?21:49
iconmefistojudgen: /etc/bash.bashrc ? not sure, but it looks like that's the one22:01
txwikingertomatto_: Install the package usb-creator-kde and use the same application22:11
judgeniconmefisto: found it on /etc/profile, seems to work fine now =D22:14
maurii need help for my scanner canon lide 10022:16
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Ahmed\Okay well guys22:19
Ahmed\i have some problem with Ktorrent and transmission, they just DONT downlaod Torrent @_@22:19
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=== ubuntu__ is now known as Ahmed\
iconmefistoAhmed\: no torrents download? try downloading the ubuntu lucid iso torrent, see if it starts22:23
Ahmed\Good idea22:24
Ahmed\Can i get the link of that page would be helpful22:24
iconmefistohttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt22:25
Ahmed\just a second22:25
iconmefistoAhmed\: that's not lucid, but still you can test the torrent downloads22:26
Ahmed\yes sure22:26
Ahmed\wait a minute22:26
Ahmed\That torrent is working HUH22:28
Ahmed\Other seems IDLE why !22:28
iconmefistoold torrent? not enough seeders connected?22:30
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Ahmed\Well no actually it does have seeders...22:33
lemongrassHi! I'm experiencing problems with sun java in firefox! I'm unable to detect the java plugin, even after following the guide at java.com22:33
Ahmed\I tried two same result22:33
dragoonhey guy how do i install java in 10.4 thanks for your help !!22:34
txwikingerAhmed\: maybe the seeders do not allow you because you are not available from the outside or you have not enouogh upload credentials22:35
lemongrassdragoon: We seem to have the same problem, except I'm on an older distro :P22:35
Ahmed\Yes that could be the reason i guess.. i have noidea but thanks a lot for helping22:35
dragoonlemongrass:  OMg LO22:36
dragoonthanks22:36
dragoonso maybe he just not install in that distroo lol22:36
lemongrassdragoon: There seem to be a conflict with the pre equipped open source version of java22:37
lemongrassdragoon: I basicly need to figure out how to link the correct plugin to the correct path22:37
dragoonlemongrass:  ok allright22:37
lemongrassdragoon: What's your problem exactly? Lack of plugin for Firefox ?22:38
dragoonnop not in firefox22:38
dragoonlemongrass:  i try to install frostwire and said error java22:38
dragoon.deb22:38
iconmefistodragoon: sun java is in the partners repo in lucid22:39
dragoonso i install java via the auto extratable form the java site but nothing mutch22:39
lemongrassdragoon: There might be a simple config edit in your sake, the .deb is probably expecting to find java at a given path. If it doesn't, a "java error" is cast22:39
dragoonlemongrass:  o i see22:39
dragoonlemongrass:  let me try in konqueror if youtube work22:40
dragoonlemongrass:  ok java not working in konqueror22:40
lemongrasshmm22:41
iconmefistoyoutube uses java?22:41
dragoonyep22:41
dragoonmaybe flash player22:41
lemongrassdragoon: I think youtube is based on flash22:41
dragoonok do you have somthing using java22:41
dragoonin linux i can see if it work22:41
lemongrassdragoon: test your jre with www.java.com22:41
lemongrassdragoon: choose "verify version"22:42
dragoonlemongrass:  allright22:42
iconmefistodragoon: do you have the ubuntu partners repo enabled?22:42
dragoonyep22:42
dragoonfrom the source rep ?22:42
dragoonlemongrass:  ok impopsible to find java22:44
dragoonwithj the verified thing22:44
lemongrassI have the very same problem22:44
lemongrassCheck if you have a symlink to libjavaplugin_oji.so in your plugins path22:45
maurii need help for my scanner canon lide 10022:45
iconmefistodragoon: what do you get when you do: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre ?22:45
dragoonhe not find anything with that name22:46
iconmefistodragoon: you need to enable ubuntu partners repo22:46
dragoonok22:46
jason___Just installed kubuntu  for some reason it wont install my graphics card. Ati hd 575022:46
jason___I mean in restricted driver section.22:47
lemongrassjason___:  I reccomend using proprietary drivers for your card. I had to with my HD488022:47
lemongrassjason___: www.ati.com22:47
dragoonlemongrass:  ok i remember where to find rep in 8.04 but in 10.04 im lost22:48
jason___lemongrass: Thats what I was trying to achive  but the standard Hardware Driver just downloads it tries to isntall it and fails.22:48
lemongrassjason___: It's a bit tricky. You'll need to download a .run file from www.ati.com, and then manually make deb packages from the content22:48
jason___will give it a go22:49
iconmefistojason___: 9.10 ?22:50
jason___lemongrass:  and here i installed kubuntu thinking itl solve driver issue22:50
lemongrassjason___: Did you manually download the file from ati's webpages, or did you follow the automatic installation in kubuntu?22:51
jason___lemongrass: automatic ...doing a manual now22:51
jason___oh wait... i have amd processor...would that be an issue?22:52
lemongrassI had trouble doing it the automatic way. There is a link on ati's pages to some unofficial support for their drives22:52
lemongrassjason___: your CPU architecture doesn't matter in this case22:52
lemongrassjason___: Umm... I meant manufacturer22:53
jason___lemongrass:  thought so.22:53
jason___iconmefisto: On website it says 10.3 drivers22:53
iconmefistojason___: no, I mean what version of kubuntu? 9.10 karmic?22:53
dragoonlemongrass:  if you have a lil time can you said to me the link in my pc to find rep22:53
lemongrassjason___: Check out the unofficial guide on how to make those packages if the automatic installation from the .run file for some reason doesn't work out as intended22:54
jason___oh no. the beta one lucy? 10.4 i think22:54
iconmefistojason___: sudo apt-get install fglrx22:54
lemongrassdragoon: one moment22:55
iconmefistojason___: also, the lucid support channel is #ubuntu+122:55
dragoonlemongrass:  ok thanks22:55
jason___oh22:55
jason___my bad22:55
dragoonlemongrass:  want me to go there maybe ?22:56
lemongrassdragoon: K-kickstart->search for kpackage->start K package kit. Choose "settings" and then "edit software sources"22:57
dragoonlemongrass:  ok its not like 9.0422:58
iconmefistodragoon: the partners repo is in the "other software" tab23:00
lemongrassdragoon: Hmm....there's a manual way to edit the list. Open a terminal and type kate /etc/apt/sources.list23:01
dragoonyeah i do23:01
dragoonno worry im ok23:01
lemongrassdragoon: Be sure to know what to edit :P23:01
dragooni just said the source is not like 9.04 but i know what to do with that :)23:01
lemongrassdragoon: Ok, good ! :)23:02
dragoonlemongrass:  ok he found java now23:02
dragoonlemongrass:  its really apreciate thanks for your help23:02
dragoonlemongrass:  let see after the installation if all work23:02
lemongrassdragoon:  No problem :)23:02
dragoonlemongrass:  do you know if a 5.0 kde will comming out sometime23:03
jason___dragoon: 4 is barely out yet23:03
lemongrassCheck out kde.org :)23:03
dragoonjason___:  well for the 4 is on 4.4 now so yes is out23:04
txwikingerThere are enough roadmap left for KDE 4 at the moment23:04
spauldingk got a newbie question.. installed a new cd/dvd burner and dont see it.. how the hell do i mount the thing (also dont think the last one was mounted either)23:04
jason___itl still be a while .23:04
txwikingerspaulding: start up k3b and there you should see it23:05
spauldingno optical drive found23:05
iconmefistospaulding: do you have a disk in it? you mount filesystems, not devices23:05
spauldingtheres a disk in now yea23:05
iconmefistospaulding: lshw -c disk  <-- does that list your cd/dvd burner?23:09
spauldinggot dvd-ram writer phys id 0.0.0 bus as scsi2 so yea.. capabilities seem right23:10
spauldingstatus=open just wont recognize poo it seems23:10
spauldingstill gettin used to the os btw23:10
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iconmefistospaulding: do you still have k3b open?23:13
spauldingclosed atm.. forget how to pm too in irc23:13
spauldinglookin in setup devices in k3b and its showing no writer drives or read-only drives23:15
iconmefistospaulding: click "modify permissions" button23:16
spauldingdone23:16
spauldingno devices listed23:16
txwikingerwhat groups do you have for your user account spaulding23:17
spauldingim part of everything cdrom ect checked that a min ago23:17
txwikingerdid you logout and in after you added the groups23:17
spauldingdidnt have to add23:17
txwikingerok23:18
spauldingpart of adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, lpadmin, admin, sambashare23:18
txwikingerthat should be sufficient23:18
spauldingthinkin i may have to do the reboot thing to get disk to work23:18
spauldinghuh.. dunno what wodim is but it cannot do inquiry for cd/dvd-recorder if thats anything23:21
spauldingit detected cd-r and says using /dev/cdrom of unknown capabilities23:21
BluesKaj!wodim23:23
BluesKaj!cdrecord23:24
BluesKajhmm , useless bot23:24
spauldinghmmm might have to install lightscribe dunno why tho23:27
spauldingok nm wont work on 64bit install23:29
iconmefistospaulding: does wodim --devices  list your drive?23:37
spaulding0 found23:37
iconmefistohmm23:38
iconmefistois everything updated/upgraded ?23:39
spauldingbtw using Lite-On iHAS422-0823:39
spauldingkpackage has everything at 100%23:39
spauldinggoing to reboot23:45
PhoenixzUsing Dell D620 laptop VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) , with external monitor, I go to system settings, there I specify that I want 2 monitors internal below the external.. All is okay. Then I specify I want to see the external left of the internal (because its on the left of it... doh).. and X crashes! Same when I specify external to the right of the internal.. Is23:46
Phoenixzthis a known problem?23:46
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spauldingok now i see it23:48
spauldinglets see if it works when i eject and put it back in23:49
iconmefistowodim --devices finds it too?23:49
spauldingyup23:49
spauldingdunno wtf... forced install on lightscribe drivers is the only thing i did23:49
iconmefistoall should be fine now23:49
spauldingyea.. thanks for the help.. always gotta try new and different things when learning23:50
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