[00:03] <apple_cat> sithlord48: I didn't think xorg.conf did anything anymore ?
[00:04] <sithlord48> apple_cat, it does just not by default.
[00:04] <txwikinger> apple_cat: most of the time it works with the default configuration, but you can still add things or change it
[00:20] <TommyThaGun> how do you change the my video output from 32 to 16 in KDE?
[00:27] <Typos_King> TommyThaGun:   do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[00:48] <WXZ> hey I'm using gubuntu for the first time since about yesterday and I love it
[00:48] <WXZ> but I can't seem to find support on how to set up different panels on different workspaces
[00:48] <WXZ> is it possible in kubuntu?
[00:52] <Typos_King> gubuntu?
[00:52] <Typos_King> that's a new one
[00:52] <Typos_King> heh
[01:23] <francois> I've copied all the .deb files from another installation's /var/cache/apt/archives to a new install, hoping that those packages will be detected and not downloaded over again, however it is not detected, is there a way to let apt know of the available packages?
[01:24] <Typos_King> well
[01:24] <Typos_King> ...
[01:24] <Typos_King> what happens when you try to install something?
[01:25] <francois> it does the normal thing where it says it needs to download the dependency packages, however all the needed packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:26] <Typos_King> right
[01:26] <Typos_King> ...
[01:26] <Typos_King> I assume both installations, the other and this one are the same versions?
[01:27] <francois> exactly
[01:27] <Typos_King> well
[01:27] <Typos_King> it usually should, not always, cuz you have to keep.... what version is it again? 9.1?
[01:27] <francois> lucid beta1
[01:27] <Typos_King> anyhow, there's a channel for it you know :|
[01:28] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:28] <francois> oh hehe, though I don't think it's something specific to lucid
[01:28] <Typos_King> but, keep in mind that, when you do a sudo apt-get update;   it gets a new list and the newer list may not reflect older installation versions, even by say a number, like 2.2.1 to 2.2.3
[01:29] <Typos_King> so, if the  list has been updated since you installed those .deb, then that'd explain why
[01:29] <francois> could I do a manual install from the archives directory?
[01:29] <Typos_King> sure
[01:29] <francois> sounds messy
[01:29] <Typos_King> in fact, I did just two days ago :)
[01:30] <Typos_King> I back up my .debs too :)
[01:30] <francois> cool =)
[01:30] <Typos_King> not as messy, I gather, though I keep them separated
[01:30] <francois> hehe I'd have to ask, because it's 2h30am and I'm asleep
[01:30] <francois> how do I install it manually
[01:31] <Typos_King> what I do is, say I  install, firefox, then go to the archives folder, and get them, and put them in their own folder, then I do a 'clean' to clean the archive and get other install files
[01:31] <Typos_King> well
[01:31] <Typos_King> if you know for one
[01:32] <Typos_King> that all .debs you have there, contain all dependencies needed for all packages there, then just sudo dpkg -i
[01:32] <Typos_King> if you're sure that's the case, all dependencies are met, otherwise, you'll find out when you try to run the app :)
[01:32] <francois> great will try that thx so much Typos_King
[01:33] <Typos_King> or..... you can.... install all, and do a -> sudo apt-get -f install;   to see if any dependency is missing
[01:33] <francois> ok
[01:33] <Typos_King> anyhow, dump all .debs to a directory, and do a -> sudo dpkg -i *;
[01:34] <Typos_King> * will take all in one whamo for a install, and you'll get warnings, but dpkg will do it anyway
[01:34] <francois> ok hope it works
[01:34] <Typos_King> when done, do a -> sudo apt-get -f install; for any missing stuff :) or errors
[01:35] <Typos_King> and apt-get will download any extras
[01:35] <jhambo> Hi folks, fresh install of 9.10 here.  My wireless card is "Intel Corporation WiFi Link 100 Series" which seems to use the iwlagn module.  I can connect to WPA personal wireless at home but I'm unable to connect to the WPA enterprise network at school.  Is there anything I can do to get WPA-enterprise working???
[01:37] <Typos_King> I'd say yes
[01:37] <Typos_King> ditch knetworkmanager, and install -> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome; and retry with that
[01:38] <Typos_King> I'm thinking it may be the network manager, thus
[01:39] <francois> Typos_King: I've looked more closely and it does seem that apt-get only wants to download the newer versions
[01:40] <Typos_King> francois:   yeah, my .debs I had were several weeks old... so... .thus my manual intall :), but it all went ok, I only had to dl 1 file :)
[01:41] <Typos_King> and as I said, I keep my .debs package-separated in their own folder, and I'd run like that using *
[01:41] <Typos_King> there might have been... 2 or 3 packages that apt-get did cuz the version was still the same in the repositories :)
[02:00] <jhambo> Typos_King: I tried installing network-manager-gnome and using that instead of the kde network manager but I still can't connect to WPA enterprise networks.  WICD wont let me connect either.  In short it's impossible for me to connect to the WPA enterprise protected network at school, rendering my laptop almost useless in ubuntu...  :(
[02:01] <jhambo> btw it works in Debian lenny
[02:02] <Typos_King> heheh
[02:02] <Typos_King> maybe.... you're missing stuff
[02:02] <jhambo> like?
[02:03] <Typos_King> install the linux-backports-modules maybe
[02:03] <jhambo> tried that already
[02:04] <Typos_King> .. has to be something... can't say
[02:04] <Typos_King> since I don't connect to wpa enterprise
[02:05] <jhambo> well thanks for the try
[03:28] <[Relic]> Is there a shut down log or a way to make one?  I want to know what keeps throwing the warning bells on my motherboard
[03:37] <txwikinger> [Relic]: look at the dmesg or kernel logs
[03:43] <[Relic]> looks like everything is from boot on
[03:44] <txwikinger> well. from boot until it is shutdown
[03:45] <[Relic]> and I need the whole shut down record to see what is making the motherboard alarm go off
[03:46] <[Relic]> so once it shuts down, there isn't anything there since I have to reboot to check
[03:51] <txwikinger> the old log is kept and new started when you reboot
[03:56] <spaulding> Is there a known issue with Firefox crashing/freezing when trying to view video?
[03:57] <txwikinger> [Relic]: look at dmesg.0,, dmesg.1.gz etc
[03:57] <txwikinger> spaulding: not that I know of.. I can watch videos
[03:57] <txwikinger> which release of Kubuntu/Firefox do you use?
[03:58] <spaulding> 10.04 and 3.7.. had same issue on 9.10 with 3.7.. thinking its ff
[03:58] <spaulding> chrome works :p
[03:59] <txwikinger> 3.7? I have 3.6.3 FF
[03:59] <spaulding> yea.. stable will probably work.. have issues with all the pre, beta, and alpha builds in windows too
[03:59] <txwikinger> is it 64bit or 32bit
[03:59] <spaulding> was jw if it was me.. ff is 32 bit only os's are 64
[04:00] <txwikinger> well.. you need to have the right build of FF
[04:01] <spaulding> there is no 64bit FF.. 64 bit browsers arent compatable with most websites
[04:01] <spaulding> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a4pre) Gecko/20100407 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Minefield/3.7a4pre
[04:02] <spaulding> as i said its not a biggy just annoying.. FF has been having issues i think the past month or so.. btw this is my first time in a irc channel in id say 4-5 years
[04:04] <[Relic]> flash 64bit has serious problems
[04:04] <txwikinger> well.. still there is a difference between 64bit and 32bit
[04:04] <txwikinger> I have encoutered certain bugs only on 64bit systems
[04:04] <spaulding> i havent even tried messing with 64bit browsin.. tried for all of about 5 min.. pissed me off and was like screw this..
[04:06] <spaulding> still learnin the basics in kubuntu reason some things kinda make no sense crashed like 3 different wubi installs before i finally did a legit partition install
[04:06] <txwikinger> well. wubi is more a test install
[04:07] <spaulding> true.. good to see if you like it and wanna try
[04:08] <spaulding> bad because it is finiky
[04:16] <iconmefisto> when I try switching to a VT, I get a blank screen with blinking cursor. any ideas?
[04:47] <txwikinger> iconmefisto: check if the vts are enabled in upstart
[04:48] <iconmefisto> txwikinger: where do I check that? I don't understand how upstart works
[04:50] <txwikinger> iconmefisto: look in /etc/init/ for the tty?conf files
[04:50] <txwikinger> check which runlevels they will be started
[04:51] <Baal> i just installed a new geforce gt 220 on my kubuntu 10.04 beta but says "out of range" after showing the bios info
[04:52] <Baal> please help
[04:53] <iconmefisto> txwikinger: tty1.conf says "start on stopped rc RUNLEVEL=[2345]". all the others say [23]
[04:53] <txwikinger> yep.. that is why they don't start
[04:54] <txwikinger> make them 2345 too
[04:54] <txwikinger> or start them manually via "sudo start tty2" etc
[04:54] <txwikinger> Baal: you might need the newest driver from nvidia
[04:55] <iconmefisto> txwikinger: but why is tty1 not starting?
[04:56] <Baal> txwikinger: can install it with other card and then reinstall?
[04:56] <Baal> cause i can't do anything right now
[04:56] <txwikinger> baal.. start the install disk with some other option
[04:57] <txwikinger> you can select some things with the f-keys
[04:57] <Baal> ok
[04:57] <Baal> thanks txwikinger
[04:57] <txwikinger> iconmefisto: do you have any errors in the rc startup?
[04:58] <txwikinger> maybe it does not get to the point where it accepts rc as started
[04:58] <iconmefisto> txwikinger: errors where? is there a log file?
[05:01] <txwikinger> yes might be
[05:01] <txwikinger> dmesg, kernel log or other logs in /var/log
[05:03] <iconmefisto> edited tty2.conf. I'm going to reboot and see if tty2 works now.
[05:09] <iconmefisto> txwikinger: still no tty's after the edit. but at least now I have some idea how it's supposed to work
[05:09] <txwikinger> :)
[05:10] <moderndayzero> hello, and sorry if im in the wrong room but i have a question me and a buddy of mine have been trying to get the "extra" option and compiz working in 9.10 using ati radeon with no luck any clues?
[05:10] <txwikinger> did you try the start command?
[05:11] <iconmefisto> sudo start tty1 ? yes, that starts a VT
[05:11] <txwikinger> moderndayzero: that looks like a driver issue
[05:12] <txwikinger> iconmefisto: well.. somehow upstart does not seem to trigger the start
[05:13] <moderndayzero> yep
[05:13] <txwikinger> moderndayzero: ask in the #ubuntu channel.. it is not kde-specific and there might be some people with an ati adapter
[05:13] <moderndayzero> we installed the new kernel but were missing some package i belive but im lost at this point
[09:13] <principal25> hola?
[09:14] <iconmefisto> !es
[09:17] <vivek_> !
[09:18] <principal25> #ubuntu-es
[09:19] <principal25> hola?
[09:19] <moetunes> it's   /j #ubuntu-es principal25
[09:35] <Morphinger> hallo zusammen
[09:42] <vivek> hii!  I just came across a blog.. it was some review of Mandriva .. and the guy says that"Due to the strength of Linux, a typical Mandriva Linux system can run for months without a reboot.".. what does this mean.. what in linux makes this possible.. hope my question is clear...(and yes as you rightly guessed I am a newbie)
[09:42] <dima> Hi. Is this a right place to ask lucid-specific question?
[09:43] <moetunes> dima: try in #ubuntu+1 - that's the lucid channel for now
[09:44] <dima> moetunes: kubuntu as well?
[09:44] <moetunes> dima: yep
[09:54] <nighteagle> hello :)
[09:55] <Morphinger> hallo
[09:55] <Morphinger> german??????
[09:55] <moetunes> !de
[09:55] <Morphinger> danke
[09:55] <moetunes> np
[10:02] <robinking623> Morphinger: lol
[10:03] <robinking623> Morphinger: sprichst du kein englisch?
[10:16] <tomatto_> hello
[10:17] <tomatto_> please, how to change root password after instalation?
[10:17] <moetunes> tomatto_: there's no root password - use sudo and your login password
[10:18] <moetunes> !root
[10:18] <tomatto_> I need root! no sudo
[10:18] <llutz> tomatto_: sudo -i
[10:19] <khaije|amalt> the keyboard detection steps when newly installing ubuntu... how do i re-run that... the attached keyboard on my laptop works fine but with the bluetooth keyboard ctrl, alt, shift etc. don't work properly
[10:20] <tomatto_> llutz: it want to change user password, no root
[10:20] <llutz> tomatto_: "passwd"
[10:20] <llutz> err
[10:21] <llutz> tomatto_: if you need a root-console, use "sudo -i" followed by your user-password
[10:21] <llutz> tomatto_: activating root-account isn't supported and rarely needed in *buntu
[10:22] <tomatto_> how do you tking isn't supported? linux must have root account
[10:22] <llutz> !sudo | tomatto_
[10:22] <tomatto_> i know what sudo is
[10:23] <llutz> tomatto_: but you don't know how *buntu works
[10:23] <llutz>  Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:24] <tomatto_> llutz: i don't want to know how *ubuntu works, i need to use it for myself
[10:24] <llutz> tomatto_: and i told you that it isn't supported here
[10:25] <tomatto_> llutz: how root cannot be supported? how is it possible
[10:25] <llutz> tomatto_: and if you wouldn't refuse to read, you would have your answer already
[10:26] <moetunes> tomatto_: mac does it the same way - no root account - the user has admin rights or not
[10:27] <tomatto_> how switch i to another keymap?
[10:28] <freyr> hi there ! can anyone tell me how can i cut some characters from a folder name ? (e.g. i have this folder name: d1-123456 and i want to have only 123456)
[10:29] <freyr> i want to do that for about 20+ directories automatically
[10:29] <moetunes> freyr: right click - select rename or in konsole   mv -v d1-123456 123456
[10:30] <llutz> freyr: look at "mmv" or "rename"
[10:34] <freyr> thanks guys
[10:36] <tomatto_> root is working...nice
[10:37] <freyr> another short question: how can i compare the names of two directories ?
[10:38] <tomatto_> how can i configure X ?
[10:43] <iconmefisto_> tomatto_: is X not working?
[10:44] <tomatto_> iconmefisto_: working, but have wrong resolution and doesn't set higher than 800x600
[10:46] <tomatto_> iconmefisto_: what can i do with?
[10:47] <iconmefisto_> !resolution | tomatto_
[10:48] <iconmefisto_> tomatto_: do you have proprietary drivers installed?
[10:49] <tomatto_> no, i am running it in virtualbox
[10:49] <llutz> tomatto_: install guest-additions and join #vbox
[10:52] <tomatto_> llutz: where is settings for loaded driver, when i haven't xorg.conf?
[10:53] <llutz> tomatto_: create one, if you need. but you have to install guest-additions to make it work. ask at #vbox for more virtualbox-related support
[10:53] <tomatto_> kubuntu has guest-x11 package...
[10:54] <tomatto_> llutz: can i work without xorg.conf?
[10:54] <llutz> tomatto_: you can, there is no xorg.conf by default anymore
[10:54] <kgeek_> have u guyzz heard abt garena ?
[10:58] <tomatto_> llutz: how can i add mode for resoluton? i make modeline for my resolution and add it to xrandr modes, but it still don't want to set. why?
[11:01] <iconmefisto_> tomatto_: join #vbox channel. you need to install guest additions in virtualbox
[11:01] <tomatto_> iconmefisto_: guest additions is already installed! but i have not right resolution
[11:02] <iconmefisto_> tomatto_: //join #vbox
[11:47] <francois> I made a swapfile with dd, and now I'd like to make it a bit bigger, but dd doesn't want to do anything if I: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap.img seek=8186760 obs=1kB count=0
[11:48] <bentob0x> while upgrading to 9.10, the update software showed me an 'hdparm.conf' diff between my version and the new 9.10 one.  I clicked on 'keep my version' but I would like to see the diff again to see what is different, how can I get my hand on a clean copy of the most recent version of hdparam.conf?
[11:52] <iconmefisto_> bentob0x: have you tried reinstalling it to see if it shows you again?
[12:02] <francois> How can I resize a image file with dd?
[12:48] <noaXess> how to get the curren trunlevel of a system?
[12:48] <llutz> runlevel
[12:48] <noaXess> i get unknown.. hm.. ssh won't start automaticaly on boot
[12:49] <noaXess> in which /etc/rc?.d should S16ssh be linked? rc5.d and rc3.d?.. for normal boot, wiht X/KDM?
[12:50] <llutz> runlevel will become obsolete with upstart, afaik
[12:50] <llutz> noaXess: sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults
[12:51] <llutz> noaXess: on *buntu rl 2-5 are equal
[12:52] <noaXess> llutz: i get this.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/419188/
[12:54] <llutz> noaXess: "sudo update-rc.d -f ssh remove && sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults"
[13:07] <noaXess> ssh still not start automatically :(
[13:08] <noaXess> some other service won't start to automatically..
[13:08] <noaXess> hm...
[13:08] <noaXess> seams it's not a application problem.. it's another..
[13:08] <llutz> check logs
[13:08] <naught101> I can't see my samba server in smb://my-laptop in konqueror, but I can see it with smbclient -L naught-laptop
[13:09] <noaXess> have also virtualbox on that machine.. which won't start the vboxdrv automatically
[13:09] <noaXess> llutz: and search for?
[13:09] <naught101> anyone know how to get it working? I've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba fairly closely...
[13:09] <llutz> noaXess: anything errr-related
[13:09] <llutz> noaXess: do the sevice start if you call them  manually?
[13:10] <noaXess> llutz: yes.. and works normal after manuall start..
[13:16] <iconmefisto> noaXess: I had that problem. with me it was an upstart bug. bug 500520
[13:16] <noaXess> iconmefisto: launchpad bug i think :)..
[13:16] <iconmefisto> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/500520
[13:17] <noaXess> iconmefisto: thanks.. will check that
[13:17] <tumii> How do I mount other partitions of a hard drive?
[13:19] <iconmefisto> !mount
[13:22] <noaXess> iconmefisto: i just found this upstart entry in initctl list: upstart-udev-bridge
[13:22] <noaXess> upstart-udev-bridge start/running, process 439
[13:22] <noaXess> is that a part of upstart?
[13:23] <noaXess> http://paste.ubuntu.com/419215/
[13:27] <iconmefisto> noaXess: I downgraded upstart 0.6.3-11 to 0.6.3-10
[13:27] <noaXess> iconmefisto: right on that way.
[13:30] <noaXess> no change.. :(.. hm..
[13:31] <iconmefisto> noaXess: some solved the problem with /etc/network/interfaces: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305226&page=4
[13:32] <noaXess> iconmefisto: have checked that.. also no change..
[13:33] <iconmefisto> noaXess: so now you have upstart 0.6.3-10 ?
[13:33] <noaXess> iconmefisto: not yet.. have upgraded.. to 11 cause it was the same problem with v10
[13:33] <noaXess> seams be another problem
[13:34] <noaXess> my /etc/netwok/interfaces: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419222/
[13:50] <appleseed> I have added swapspace larger than my ram, and when I hibernate or try to suspend to ram, I get a flickering cursor and then a screen lock prompt. Is there something I have to do to enable hibernation after having added swap?
[13:52] <llutz> appleseed: add it to /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
[13:52] <appleseed> Actually looking more closely I can see a "USB freeze error" referring to my wifi usb dongle not wanting to suspend or something
[13:52] <appleseed> llutz: ok will try that
[13:52] <noaXess> iconmefisto: ok.. seams that i can't get it running.. how to start all services that should be run on boot, manually?
[13:52] <llutz> RESUME=UUID=1234-5432-1234
[13:52] <llutz> appleseed: use UUID of your swap-partition
[13:54] <llutz> appleseed: "sudo update-initramfs" after that
[13:54] <appleseed> llutz: thx so much hope it works
[13:54] <iconmefisto> noaXess: sorry, I can't help with that. I don't understand the boot process too well.
[13:55] <noaXess> ok.. iconmefisto but thanks for hint's
[13:55] <appleseed> llutz: actually I use a swap image file /swapfile so can I add RESUME=/swapfile ?
[13:55] <llutz> appleseed: i'm not sure if you can suspend to swap-file
[13:55] <noaXess> any other.. some service won't start automatically.. still have tried to downgrade upstart, check /etc/netwrok/interfaces.. but no success.. now.. how can i run manually all nessecary services that should be run at bootime, without starting each one himself.. )
[13:56] <appleseed> llutz: i'll try your advice and see what happens
[13:58] <llutz> appleseed:the swsusp hibernation implementation needs a partition, won't suspend to a file
[13:59] <llutz> appleseed: tuxonice does
[14:25] <Oxymoron> Why isnt KDevelop4 ppa updated to RC3?
[14:28] <txwikinger> Oxymoron: probably because nobody got to do it yet.. do you want to volunteer?
[14:28] <Oxymoron> txwikinger: Sure, if nobody else is up to it so sure.
[14:37] <isaac__> In Windows, in wireless internet settings you can set it to automatically connect to ANY open wireless network.  Dangerous in some cases yes, but in a university setting with multiple wifi connect points it's handy.
[14:37] <isaac__> Is there any way to do this in Ubuntu?  Because I really want to.
[15:14] <NCommander> Just a stupid question, has anyone gotten ubuntu one to work under Kubuntu?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> NCommander: yeah
[15:24] <NCommander> shadeslayer: on lucid?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> NCommander: just install the ubuntu-desktop package and logout and choose gnome
[15:24] <shadeslayer> NCommander: it should work...
[15:25] <NCommander> shadeslayer: *shiver*.
[15:25] <shadeslayer> NCommander: why?
[15:25] <shadeslayer> NCommander: also #ubuntu+1 should have a better idea
[15:25] <NCommander> shadeslayer: I have strong feelings about GNOME, and I try to avoid to have it installed :-/
[15:25] <shadeslayer> NCommander: same here
[15:25] <shadeslayer> NCommander: my Qt libs hate the GTK ones :D
[15:26] <NCommander> shadeslayer: fight, fight, fight?
[15:26] <NCommander> shadeslayer: thats not my issue, but yeah
[15:27] <shadeslayer> NCommander: at one time i had Lubuntu+Ubuntu+Kubuntu+Xubuntu :P
[15:27] <shadeslayer> NCommander: then KDE became awesome and took over my bandwidth :D
[15:27] <NCommander> shadeslayer: ahahahahaha
[15:27] <NCommander> win
[15:28] <iconmefisto> NCommander: http://jjesse.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/installing-ubuntu-one-on-kubuntu-9-10/
[15:28] <shadeslayer> NCommander: oh man
[15:29] <NCommander> iconmefisto: doesn't work on 10.04
[15:29] <shadeslayer> NCommander: i thought you meant installing ubuntu on kubuntu... missed out 'one'
[15:29] <NCommander> shadeslayer: ;-)
[15:29] <shadeslayer> NCommander: hold on
[15:29] <renzo> stop
[15:29] <iconmefisto> I didn't even know about "ubuntu one", but if it's like dropbox, I'm not really interested as I'm using dropbox now
[15:30] <renzo> channel
[15:32] <shadeslayer> NCommander: you might want to talk to apachelogger in kubuntu-devel or where ever you can catch him
[15:32] <NCommander> iconmefisto: google is your friend on U1
[15:33] <shadeslayer> iconmefisto: dropbox released kdropbox a few days ago
[15:48] <tomatto_> please, how change locales to cz?
[15:48] <tomatto_> iso... no utf8?
[15:49] <llutz> tomatto_: sudo dpkg-reconfgure locales
[15:49] <llutz> tomatto_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[15:52] <tomatto_> llutz: it generates only for utf8
[16:17] <morphinger> hallo  zusammen
[16:18] <morphinger> habe firefox install und das quakelive wo wird das plug......
[16:19] <alakoo> !de
[16:26] <anj> Why am I seeing "cannot examine encrypted directory" before console logins?
[16:27] <anj> I don't have an encrypted directory.
[16:27] <anj> Of course, that might be why it cannot examine it. :/
[16:40] <crystufer> Hey, how do I tell what mount driver ubuntu is using to mount my ntfs drive?
[16:44] <crystufer> My current fstab looks like this (/dev/sda1 /media/Home ntfs-3g  user,defaults 0 0) but the partition doesn't work like that. It works if I comment that line out and restart the pc though. But I have to let kde do it by clicking on the drive.
[16:48] <txwikinger> crystufer: you use ntfs-3g
[16:50] <tomatto_> what is newest version of kubuntu?
[16:50] <crystufer> txwikinger: could you expand on that though?
[16:50] <crystufer> tomatto_: 9.1 karmic koala I believe.
[16:50] <crystufer> tomatto_: Unless you want the beta.
[16:50] <txwikinger> tomatto_: lucid lynx 10.4 will be out 29th of this month
[16:51] <txwikinger> crystufer: that is the driver you seem to use
[16:52] <txwikinger> Not sure what you want to know
[16:52] <crystufer> txwikinger: That's the one I tried to use on my fstab. But it didn't work, remember. So I wanted a command to ask the computer what it's using right now so that I can specify that in my fstab.
[16:52] <txwikinger> did you ever try just ntfs
[16:52] <crystufer> txwikinger: I did not. Is that an option?
[16:52] <txwikinger> I would think so
[16:53]  * txwikinger does not have an ntfs partition around to test it
[16:53] <txwikinger> however that is how I always did it in the past
[16:57] <crystufer> I'll try that. Thank you.
[17:09] <tommyq> Hi! I'm trying to plug my Garmin GPS to Kubuntu but after garmin_gps probing /dev/ttyUSB* isn't created. Does anyone know where the problem is?
[17:14] <tommyq> Linux tiger 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:14] <tommyq> Another info on demand
[17:15] <txwikinger> tommyq: have you ever look at this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/USB_Garmin_on_GNU/Linux ?
[17:18] <tommyq> txwikinger: Yes, I have. Actually there is no info for me. They count with fact, the device creates after you probe the module. But it has no happend in my case.
[17:19] <txwikinger> well.. maybe it is a permission problem
[17:19] <txwikinger> how do you probe the device
[17:19] <tommyq> sudo modprobe garmin_gps :)
[17:21] <tommyq> I found in messages there should be message like "USB Serial support registered for Garmin GPS usb/tty to /dev/ttyUSB0"
[17:21] <tommyq> But I've got "USB Serial support registered for Garmin GPS usb/tty" only - It means without device determination
[17:22] <tommyq> And the device doesn't create
[17:23] <tommyq> I found similar problem with 0.32 version of this driver but there's 0.33 in kernel 2.6.32
[17:25] <txwikinger> not sure. and I don't have my garmin here atm to test
[17:29] <tommyq> I found also that there should be mounted usbfs to /proc/bus/usb, but there's no /proc/bus/usb
[17:34] <judgen> Howdy.
[17:34] <judgen> Where is the settings for the compositing effects? i cant seem to find them.
[17:37] <tommyq> judgen: Settings>General>Desktop>
[17:44] <judgen> tommyq: thanks.
[17:45] <judgen> how do i make windows unable to be outside the desktop? I want them to not be able to go outside the visual area, but rather snap back inside.
[17:47] <demism> anyone get netflix working?
[17:49] <demism> On another note, how can I get my touchpad mouse to disable upon connection of a usb mouse?
[17:53] <demism> Under the mouse settings, the touchpad tab is not functional
[17:54] <judgen> is medibuntu down?
[17:55] <iconmefisto> judgen: yep
[17:55] <iconmefisto> judgen: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html
[17:59] <vbgunz_> why does visiting youtube in konqueror always say to upgrade my flash?
[18:00] <vbgunz_> this is becoming a real annoyance. I never had this problem and my flash doesn't need upgrading *but* this happens in konqueror a lot now. if I close firefox and all instances of konqueror then relaunch konqueror right on to youtube, youtube works, no warnings.
[18:06] <iconmefisto> vbgunz_: only on youtube? or any flash content?
[18:07] <vbgunz_> hmm, im googling and it appears its a bug with youtube
[18:14] <gcala> I, have installed lucid some weeks ago and used it without important problems; now I have installed catalyst driver from repository and they work good except that the boot splash screen isn't in native resolution (like with opensource ati driver) but in low-res and low-color depth; need some xorg.conf or grub special configuration? thanks
[18:14] <tomatto_> txwikinger: can i upgrade from 9.1 to 10.4 ?
[18:16] <Pici> gcala : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:16] <gcala> Pici: ok, thanks
[18:30] <ricardo_> hello
[18:30] <tomatto_> can i upgrade from 9.1 to 10.4 ?
[18:31] <ricardo_> hi, i need to restrict acces to ms messenger from some computer in my network, so how to do this with ip tables ???
[18:31] <rork> tomatto_: 10.4 is still in beta but you can get it here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.04-lts-beta-2
[18:33] <tomatto_> rork: i know where download it. but i am asking can i upgrade from 9.1 to 10.4 if i have 9.1 already installed? after 10.4 will be full version
[18:35] <rork> tomatto_: ofcourse you can, make sure to keep your userfiles though, either by backing them up, keeping them on a separate partition or using apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:35] <tomatto_> rork: great
[18:36] <ricardo_> noone know hot to block ms messenger with ip tables???
[18:39] <iconmefisto> tomatto_: there's a link on that page with upgrade instructions
[18:44] <txwikinger> tomatto_: you can upgrade either via the upgrade-manager or via the alternate iso
[18:48] <txwikinger> !upgrade > tomatto_
[19:29] <ricardo> hello
[19:29] <ricardo> i'm getting a message saying that ipmas has no candidate for installation, some body can help me??
[19:31] <moetunes> ricardo: try in console   apt-cache search ipmas   that might give a clue what to install
[19:31] <moetunes> s/console/konsole
[19:32] <ricardo> :( nothing
[19:32] <ricardo> ipmasq is not on repositories now??
[19:33] <moetunes> ricardo: have you enabled the extra repos?
[19:33] <moetunes> !repos
[19:34] <ricardo> multiverse universe (everything)
[19:35] <moetunes> ricardo: there might not be a package built for it then
[19:35] <moetunes> what is it?
[19:35] <txwikinger> apt-cache policy <packagename> shows you if there is a package available and/or installed
[19:36] <ricardo> nothing, i always use ipmasq to share internet conection, so now how to??
[19:37] <Pici> ricardo: impmasq is no longer in debian either, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=538384
[19:37] <ricardo> kk, so then ???
[19:37] <ricardo> how to share internet conection?
[19:39] <Pici> ricardo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[19:42] <ricardo> not working for share conection
[20:16] <TommyThaGun> in Kmail I keep getting this error: "Error while getting folder information. Unable to get information about folder [Gmail]. The server replied: Invalid folder: [Gmail] (Failure)"
[20:17] <TommyThaGun> I think it's because because I'm viewing my main via IMAP google created a subfolders within a "gmail" folder, and kmail is trying to get mail for the folger "gmail" and there is none
[20:18] <TommyThaGun> I tried unsubscribing from gmail though and you can't
[20:20] <TommyThaGun> any thoughts? ever run into this issue before? the notification errors are a neusance. If I left it running I would come back and have 36 of them for every hours I was gone
[20:31] <TommyThaGun> it's really annoying
[20:31] <TommyThaGun> haha
[20:32] <Delemir> i wish i had an answer for you but im not so familiar with that kind of problem
[20:37] <TommyThaGun> I just changed teh notifications settings
[20:37] <TommyThaGun> we'll see if that changes it
[20:39] <TommyThaGun> that changed nothing
[20:40] <TommyThaGun> oh well, back to kmail
[20:40] <TommyThaGun> er..
[20:40] <TommyThaGun> thunderbird
[20:43] <TommyThaGun> whoa
[20:44] <TommyThaGun> now that I closed kmail my fans calmed down and my system seems a lot more responsive
[20:47] <Delemir> the process kmail was probably eating up all your cpu power i guess...
[20:57] <judgen> Wow, an dist-update is really slow... i mean the download was fast, but now at unpacking its slow as dirt.. think it has been working for an hour or so.
[20:57] <iconmefisto> an hour?
[20:58] <judgen> yeah maybe more.
[20:59] <judgen> yay it started with the settings now. Pretty neat, and my friends always claim complaining does not help =D
[20:59] <iconmefisto> how many packages? that seems like a very long time, unless you're doing other cpu/memory intensive things at the same time
[20:59] <judgen> ~1gb of packages downloaded. 1200+ packages.
[21:00] <judgen> irc and kopete is the only things running besides the konsole where i do the dist-upgrade.
[21:00] <iconmefisto> oh ok. have you just upgraded or something?
[21:00] <judgen> karmic>lucid.
[21:01] <judgen> is what im doing.
[21:01] <judgen> Sorry for the multiple lines, my brin does not always function properly.
[21:02] <txwikinger> judgen: You should not use dist-upgrade for upgradin from one release to another
[21:02] <txwikinger> you better use do-release-upgrade for that
[21:02] <iconmefisto> have you done the release upgrade, now doing an update/dist-upgrade? or are you doing the upgrade to lucid some other way?
[21:03] <judgen> nope, just the way i've always done it.... dist upgrade.
[21:04] <iconmefisto> a simple dist-upgrade won't upgrade to the next release
[21:04] <txwikinger> judgen: dist-upgrade often does not do dpendencies correctly.. just an hint.. you can do whatever you want
[21:04] <judgen> oh ok, didnt know that...
[21:05] <judgen> darnit, forgot to backup my grub config...
[21:06] <txwikinger> I mean when you move from one release to another.. .dist-upgrade is for updating all packages that have been updated within a release
[21:07] <iconmefisto> judgen: dist-upgrade is like a normal apt-get upgrade, but it can handle changing dependencies or package name changes
[21:08] <judgen> oh well, too bad im almost done then..
[21:08] <judgen> aaw man, it reinstalled gnome...
[21:08] <iconmefisto> but 1200 packages? you didn't change your sources to lucid, did you?
[21:08] <judgen> yup
[21:09] <txwikinger> well upgrade is better when you use repositories that are changing a lot.. because it handles better situation when part of the dependencies are not available in the repo without breaking anything
[21:09] <judgen> but what about the magical cow powers =D
[21:10] <judgen> i also hope it wont brake some of my apps. but we will see. Amarok 1.4 is just awsome.
[21:12] <iconmefisto> amarok 1.4? wasn't that kde3?
[21:12] <tomatto_> please, what package is for skype?
[21:12] <tomatto_> i could not find it
[21:13] <iconmefisto> tomatto_: download the .deb from the website
[21:13] <judgen> tomatto_: its in medibuntu, alternatively you download it from skype.com
[21:13] <iconmefisto> judgen: I don't think it's in medibuntu any more
[21:13] <judgen> iconmefisto: indeed its in kde3, i have both kde3 and 4 installed.
[21:13] <judgen> iconmefisto: oh ok.
[21:14] <judgen> im off to see if the system still boots. =D
[21:20] <tomatto_> please, do you have medibuntu.list?
[21:20] <iconmefisto> !medibuntu
[21:24] <tomatto_> why is it write to me, medibuntu connection refused?
[21:25] <judgen> Seems to be working fine, with two odd problems. One is the annoying splash that never stops when booting (i boot into cli) and the kopete icon no longer show up in the kicker.
[21:25] <judgen> (systray that is)
[21:26] <iconmefisto> judgen: is the kopete icon hidden perhaps?
[21:28] <iconmefisto> tomatto_: medibuntu servers seem to be having problems lately. you can use a mirror: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html
[21:28] <judgen> iconmefisto: could be, is there a setting that i dont know about perhaps?
[21:29] <judgen> iconmefisto: what new app does lucid use for that awful splash?
[21:29] <iconmefisto> judgen: I mean hidden in the systray. click the < button to see hidden icons (if any)
[21:29] <judgen> dont have any such button.
[21:30] <iconmefisto> judgen: on the left of the systray?
[21:30] <judgen> now i do, but no kopete isnt hidden.
[21:30] <judgen> i had disabled the featre of hidden icons.
[21:31] <iconmefisto> judgen: plymouth is what does the splash in lucid. lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[21:31] <judgen> iconmefisto: ok thanks though.
[21:32] <iconmefisto> judgen: if you're thinking about uninstalling plymouth, that's not gonna work
[21:32] <judgen> disabling it then?
[21:33] <iconmefisto> judgen: I think removing "splash" from kernel line in grub. or changing it to "nosplash". I think either is the same
[21:36] <judgen> yeah i did that now.
[21:40] <txwikinger> tomatto_: mediuntu is down at the moment
[21:49] <judgen> where is the cli login screen's colour settings located?
[21:49] <tomatto_> how to do liveusb from livecd kubuntu?
[22:01] <iconmefisto> judgen: /etc/bash.bashrc ? not sure, but it looks like that's the one
[22:11] <txwikinger> tomatto_: Install the package usb-creator-kde and use the same application
[22:14] <judgen> iconmefisto: found it on /etc/profile, seems to work fine now =D
[22:16] <mauri> i need help for my scanner canon lide 100
[22:19] <Ahmed\> Okay well guys
[22:19] <Ahmed\> i have some problem with Ktorrent and transmission, they just DONT downlaod Torrent @_@
[22:23] <iconmefisto> Ahmed\: no torrents download? try downloading the ubuntu lucid iso torrent, see if it starts
[22:24] <Ahmed\> Good idea
[22:24] <Ahmed\> Can i get the link of that page would be helpful
[22:25] <iconmefisto> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[22:25] <Ahmed\> just a second
[22:26] <iconmefisto> Ahmed\: that's not lucid, but still you can test the torrent downloads
[22:26] <Ahmed\> yes sure
[22:26] <Ahmed\> wait a minute
[22:28] <Ahmed\> That torrent is working HUH
[22:28] <Ahmed\> Other seems IDLE why !
[22:30] <iconmefisto> old torrent? not enough seeders connected?
[22:33] <Ahmed\> Well no actually it does have seeders...
[22:33] <lemongrass> Hi! I'm experiencing problems with sun java in firefox! I'm unable to detect the java plugin, even after following the guide at java.com
[22:33] <Ahmed\> I tried two same result
[22:34] <dragoon> hey guy how do i install java in 10.4 thanks for your help !!
[22:35] <txwikinger> Ahmed\: maybe the seeders do not allow you because you are not available from the outside or you have not enouogh upload credentials
[22:35] <lemongrass> dragoon: We seem to have the same problem, except I'm on an older distro :P
[22:35] <Ahmed\> Yes that could be the reason i guess.. i have noidea but thanks a lot for helping
[22:36] <dragoon> lemongrass:  OMg LO
[22:36] <dragoon> thanks
[22:36] <dragoon> so maybe he just not install in that distroo lol
[22:37] <lemongrass> dragoon: There seem to be a conflict with the pre equipped open source version of java
[22:37] <lemongrass> dragoon: I basicly need to figure out how to link the correct plugin to the correct path
[22:37] <dragoon> lemongrass:  ok allright
[22:38] <lemongrass> dragoon: What's your problem exactly? Lack of plugin for Firefox ?
[22:38] <dragoon> nop not in firefox
[22:38] <dragoon> lemongrass:  i try to install frostwire and said error java
[22:38] <dragoon> .deb
[22:39] <iconmefisto> dragoon: sun java is in the partners repo in lucid
[22:39] <dragoon> so i install java via the auto extratable form the java site but nothing mutch
[22:39] <lemongrass> dragoon: There might be a simple config edit in your sake, the .deb is probably expecting to find java at a given path. If it doesn't, a "java error" is cast
[22:39] <dragoon> lemongrass:  o i see
[22:40] <dragoon> lemongrass:  let me try in konqueror if youtube work
[22:40] <dragoon> lemongrass:  ok java not working in konqueror
[22:41] <lemongrass> hmm
[22:41] <iconmefisto> youtube uses java?
[22:41] <dragoon> yep
[22:41] <dragoon> maybe flash player
[22:41] <lemongrass> dragoon: I think youtube is based on flash
[22:41] <dragoon> ok do you have somthing using java
[22:41] <dragoon> in linux i can see if it work
[22:41] <lemongrass> dragoon: test your jre with www.java.com
[22:42] <lemongrass> dragoon: choose "verify version"
[22:42] <dragoon> lemongrass:  allright
[22:42] <iconmefisto> dragoon: do you have the ubuntu partners repo enabled?
[22:42] <dragoon> yep
[22:42] <dragoon> from the source rep ?
[22:44] <dragoon> lemongrass:  ok impopsible to find java
[22:44] <dragoon> withj the verified thing
[22:44] <lemongrass> I have the very same problem
[22:45] <lemongrass> Check if you have a symlink to libjavaplugin_oji.so in your plugins path
[22:45] <mauri> i need help for my scanner canon lide 100
[22:45] <iconmefisto> dragoon: what do you get when you do: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre ?
[22:46] <dragoon> he not find anything with that name
[22:46] <iconmefisto> dragoon: you need to enable ubuntu partners repo
[22:46] <dragoon> ok
[22:46] <jason___> Just installed kubuntu  for some reason it wont install my graphics card. Ati hd 5750
[22:47] <jason___> I mean in restricted driver section.
[22:47] <lemongrass> jason___:  I reccomend using proprietary drivers for your card. I had to with my HD4880
[22:47] <lemongrass> jason___: www.ati.com
[22:48] <dragoon> lemongrass:  ok i remember where to find rep in 8.04 but in 10.04 im lost
[22:48] <jason___> lemongrass: Thats what I was trying to achive  but the standard Hardware Driver just downloads it tries to isntall it and fails.
[22:48] <lemongrass> jason___: It's a bit tricky. You'll need to download a .run file from www.ati.com, and then manually make deb packages from the content
[22:49] <jason___> will give it a go
[22:50] <iconmefisto> jason___: 9.10 ?
[22:50] <jason___> lemongrass:  and here i installed kubuntu thinking itl solve driver issue
[22:51] <lemongrass> jason___: Did you manually download the file from ati's webpages, or did you follow the automatic installation in kubuntu?
[22:51] <jason___> lemongrass: automatic ...doing a manual now
[22:52] <jason___> oh wait... i have amd processor...would that be an issue?
[22:52] <lemongrass> I had trouble doing it the automatic way. There is a link on ati's pages to some unofficial support for their drives
[22:52] <lemongrass> jason___: your CPU architecture doesn't matter in this case
[22:53] <lemongrass> jason___: Umm... I meant manufacturer
[22:53] <jason___> lemongrass:  thought so.
[22:53] <jason___> iconmefisto: On website it says 10.3 drivers
[22:53] <iconmefisto> jason___: no, I mean what version of kubuntu? 9.10 karmic?
[22:53] <dragoon> lemongrass:  if you have a lil time can you said to me the link in my pc to find rep
[22:54] <lemongrass> jason___: Check out the unofficial guide on how to make those packages if the automatic installation from the .run file for some reason doesn't work out as intended
[22:54] <jason___> oh no. the beta one lucy? 10.4 i think
[22:54] <iconmefisto> jason___: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[22:55] <lemongrass> dragoon: one moment
[22:55] <iconmefisto> jason___: also, the lucid support channel is #ubuntu+1
[22:55] <dragoon> lemongrass:  ok thanks
[22:55] <jason___> oh
[22:55] <jason___> my bad
[22:56] <dragoon> lemongrass:  want me to go there maybe ?
[22:57] <lemongrass> dragoon: K-kickstart->search for kpackage->start K package kit. Choose "settings" and then "edit software sources"
[22:58] <dragoon> lemongrass:  ok its not like 9.04
[23:00] <iconmefisto> dragoon: the partners repo is in the "other software" tab
[23:01] <lemongrass> dragoon: Hmm....there's a manual way to edit the list. Open a terminal and type kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:01] <dragoon> yeah i do
[23:01] <dragoon> no worry im ok
[23:01] <lemongrass> dragoon: Be sure to know what to edit :P
[23:01] <dragoon> i just said the source is not like 9.04 but i know what to do with that :)
[23:02] <lemongrass> dragoon: Ok, good ! :)
[23:02] <dragoon> lemongrass:  ok he found java now
[23:02] <dragoon> lemongrass:  its really apreciate thanks for your help
[23:02] <dragoon> lemongrass:  let see after the installation if all work
[23:02] <lemongrass> dragoon:  No problem :)
[23:03] <dragoon> lemongrass:  do you know if a 5.0 kde will comming out sometime
[23:03] <jason___> dragoon: 4 is barely out yet
[23:03] <lemongrass> Check out kde.org :)
[23:04] <dragoon> jason___:  well for the 4 is on 4.4 now so yes is out
[23:04] <txwikinger> There are enough roadmap left for KDE 4 at the moment
[23:04] <spaulding> k got a newbie question.. installed a new cd/dvd burner and dont see it.. how the hell do i mount the thing (also dont think the last one was mounted either)
[23:04] <jason___> itl still be a while .
[23:05] <txwikinger> spaulding: start up k3b and there you should see it
[23:05] <spaulding> no optical drive found
[23:05] <iconmefisto> spaulding: do you have a disk in it? you mount filesystems, not devices
[23:05] <spaulding> theres a disk in now yea
[23:09] <iconmefisto> spaulding: lshw -c disk  <-- does that list your cd/dvd burner?
[23:10] <spaulding> got dvd-ram writer phys id 0.0.0 bus as scsi2 so yea.. capabilities seem right
[23:10] <spaulding> status=open just wont recognize poo it seems
[23:10] <spaulding> still gettin used to the os btw
[23:13] <iconmefisto> spaulding: do you still have k3b open?
[23:13] <spaulding> closed atm.. forget how to pm too in irc
[23:15] <spaulding> lookin in setup devices in k3b and its showing no writer drives or read-only drives
[23:16] <iconmefisto> spaulding: click "modify permissions" button
[23:16] <spaulding> done
[23:16] <spaulding> no devices listed
[23:17] <txwikinger> what groups do you have for your user account spaulding
[23:17] <spaulding> im part of everything cdrom ect checked that a min ago
[23:17] <txwikinger> did you logout and in after you added the groups
[23:17] <spaulding> didnt have to add
[23:18] <txwikinger> ok
[23:18] <spaulding> part of adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, lpadmin, admin, sambashare
[23:18] <txwikinger> that should be sufficient
[23:18] <spaulding> thinkin i may have to do the reboot thing to get disk to work
[23:21] <spaulding> huh.. dunno what wodim is but it cannot do inquiry for cd/dvd-recorder if thats anything
[23:21] <spaulding> it detected cd-r and says using /dev/cdrom of unknown capabilities
[23:23] <BluesKaj> !wodim
[23:24] <BluesKaj> !cdrecord
[23:24] <BluesKaj> hmm , useless bot
[23:27] <spaulding> hmmm might have to install lightscribe dunno why tho
[23:29] <spaulding> ok nm wont work on 64bit install
[23:37] <iconmefisto> spaulding: does wodim --devices  list your drive?
[23:37] <spaulding> 0 found
[23:38] <iconmefisto> hmm
[23:39] <iconmefisto> is everything updated/upgraded ?
[23:39] <spaulding> btw using Lite-On iHAS422-08
[23:39] <spaulding> kpackage has everything at 100%
[23:45] <spaulding> going to reboot
[23:46] <Phoenixz> Using Dell D620 laptop VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) , with external monitor, I go to system settings, there I specify that I want 2 monitors internal below the external.. All is okay. Then I specify I want to see the external left of the internal (because its on the left of it... doh).. and X crashes! Same when I specify external to the right of the internal.. Is
[23:46] <Phoenixz> this a known problem?
[23:48] <spaulding> ok now i see it
[23:49] <spaulding> lets see if it works when i eject and put it back in
[23:49] <iconmefisto> wodim --devices finds it too?
[23:49] <spaulding> yup
[23:49] <spaulding> dunno wtf... forced install on lightscribe drivers is the only thing i did
[23:49] <iconmefisto> all should be fine now
[23:50] <spaulding> yea.. thanks for the help.. always gotta try new and different things when learning