[00:21] <|Iciness717|> can anyone tell me how I can create a VM image of a production ubuntu 9.0.4 server? Apparently Vmware converter only supports up to 8.x
[00:22] <stlsaint> sorry never have done it
[00:23] <pedro3005> |Iciness717|, I think you need a special version of VMWare able to create images
[00:24] <|Iciness717|> I have a licensed copy of VMware workstation as well as a standalone VMware converter
[00:25] <|Iciness717|> only the standalone converter has Linux support, though not the 9.0.4 distro
[00:26] <pedro3005> why don't you just make the imagine with workstation?
[00:37] <|Iciness717|> pedro3005: I tried, it doesnt support Linux, only Windows
[00:37] <pedro3005> :O
[00:38] <|Iciness717|> I know... its ridiculous
[00:38] <pedro3005> it cannot run linux as a virtual machine?
[00:38] <|Iciness717|> oh, well I can make a new VM from scratch, but thats not what Im looking to do
[00:38] <pedro3005> oh
[00:38] <|Iciness717|> I need to copy the existing server I have
[00:39] <pedro3005> aren't you better off asking them?
[00:39] <|Iciness717|> who? #vmware?
[00:40] <pedro3005> yeah
[02:34] <Guest998> hello *nixers
[02:35] <Guest998> I'm a pretty savvy comp dude that wants a first taste of linux (my bro suggests ubuntu)
[02:36] <Vantrax> its a good first choice
[02:36] <Guest998> I'm on a Powerbook g4
[02:36] <Guest998> I'd like to be able to jump right in
[02:36] <Guest998> is one distro better for Apples?
[02:37] <Guest998> I'ts a 1.5 GHz
[02:37] <Guest998> googles lead to everyone saying that they are the best, but nothing terribly useful
[02:38] <Guest998> distros that they recommend of this model seem to be dated to whatever the latest version of Ubuntu is...
[02:38] <Guest998> should I just grab the latest?
[02:38] <Guest998> or is one better designed for the PowerPC
[02:38] <Guest998> ?
[02:40] <Guest998> Thanks for assuring me that I'm not simply talking to myself, Vantrex
[02:40] <swoody> Guest998: well hello, and welcome :)
[02:40] <Guest998> much obliged, swoody
[02:40] <swoody> Guest998: indeed, Ubuntu is a really great distro to get your feet wet with Linux
[02:41] <Guest998> just Mike will do, if you don't want to type Guest998
[02:41] <Guest998> I just wanted a quick question answered and then I'd be wiping this OSX out anyway
[02:42] <swoody> Guest998: it's tab-complete ;) Hit first letter or two and tab. So: Gu[tab]
[02:42] <Guest998> good enough for me, friend
[02:43] <swoody> Guest998: I'm not familiar with the Mac hardware, is yours the PowerPC processor, or is it one of the newer Intel models?
[02:43] <Guest998> PPC
[02:43] <Guest998> it is basically a 'free' computer for me (ie: I can do whatever I want to it without worrying about data)
[02:44] <swoody> Guest998: very nice :) Well give me a min here, I need to look into that really quick. I'm not familiar with the PPC architecture, and want to make sure we get you the right version here :)
[02:44] <Guest998> much obliged again, swoody
[02:44] <swoody> np :)
[02:45] <Vantrax> sorry, Guest998 Im actually at work and got pulled away for a minute
[02:45] <Guest998> when I'm more versed in linux, I hope to resurrect some older machines
[02:46] <Vantrax> well a few minutes
[02:46] <Guest998> this is a pretty decent machine that runs OSX 10.5 fine, but I'd like to try Ubuntu out
[02:46] <Vantrax> for your first try I would suggest running Ubuntu through bootcamp
[02:46] <Guest998> I'm pretty familiar with unix
[02:46] <Vantrax> are you familiar with Bootcamp?
[02:46] <Guest998> oops, yeah, Van, you missed that part
[02:47] <Guest998> I don't care about this comp
[02:47] <Vantrax> ahh
[02:47] <Guest998> it is a 'free' machine
[02:47] <Vantrax> sweet
[02:47] <Guest998> my bro was suggesting VM
[02:47] <Guest998> not necessary
[02:47] <Vantrax> im just trying to find the PPC arch iso fiel
[02:47] <Vantrax> file
[02:47] <Guest998> I can wipe this thing 100 times, it is only my time that is wasted
[02:49] <Guest998> swoody got lost looking for that file as well....
[02:50] <Guest998> I hope I'm not sending helpful fellows off to their untimely end into some blackhole!
[02:50] <Vantrax> now we know why
[02:50] <Vantrax> they stopped making a PPC version in '07
[02:50] <Guest998> surely there is an archive
[02:50] <Guest998> ?
[02:50] <Vantrax> there is ment to be a unofficial port, http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/karmic/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/
[02:51] <Vantrax> but nothing actually there
[02:51] <Guest998> hmm...I didn't know they even had a PPC 64bit
[02:51] <Vantrax> as for older versions http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/releases/6.06.2/
[02:51] <Vantrax> thats a year older than the last version tho
[02:52] <Guest998> that's cool, I just want to see it!
[02:52] <Vantrax> im trying to find an archive of a newer one atm
[02:52] <Guest998> hmm....it won't let me open the gz...
[02:52] <Vantrax> it wont look as ince
[02:53] <Vantrax> er, wont look as nice as the current gnome
[02:53] <Vantrax> you looking at the karmic one?
[02:53] <Vantrax> that one isnt there... should be, but its just placeholders by the looks of it
[02:53] <Guest998> feh, no, I was looking at the wrong file
[02:54] <Vantrax> ahh
[02:54] <Guest998> yeah
[02:54] <Vantrax> ok
[02:54] <Guest998> looks it
[02:54] <Guest998> an iso would be great
[02:54] <Guest998> I don't remember if I had a decent iso > cd burner on my pc
[02:55] <Guest998> this mac might have a legit version of toast 6 something....
[02:55] <Guest998> or not
[02:55] <Vantrax> hrm
[02:55] <Guest998> ok....so.....find my toast 6.x cd....
[02:55] <Vantrax> http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/lucid/Release says there is a PPC version of 9.10
[02:56] <Vantrax> er make that http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/karmic/Release
[02:56] <Guest998> just a text
[02:56] <Guest998> heh
[02:56] <Vantrax> yeah, means it will exist somewhere, or it might be supported by the standard version
[02:57] <Guest998> what exactly is this list?
[02:58] <Guest998> an md5 sum?
[03:00] <Vantrax> yeah
[03:01] <Guest998> I kinda know what md5 refers to as far as VPN phase 2
[03:01] <Guest998> I don't know how to get anything useful from this txt, though
[03:01] <Vantrax> im reasonably sure that you can run the standard 32bit disk
[03:01] <Guest998> I think I have no choice
[03:01] <Vantrax> your PPC mac is 32bit right?
[03:02] <Guest998> yes
[03:02] <Guest998> it's far too old
[03:02] <Guest998> it's only a 1.5 GHz
[03:02] <Vantrax> hardware support is entirely in the kernel, the might just have multiple kernels on the disk that are used based on hardware detection
[03:02] <Guest998> ahh....
[03:02] <Vantrax> upside is you can just use the 9.10 standard disk
[03:02] <Guest998> so....the latest may in fact be the greatest?
[03:03] <Vantrax> I think thats the way it works, please let me know if it does
[03:03] <Vantrax> nah, 10.04 is the latest and greatest, its in beta phase 2 atm
[03:03] <stlsaint> pfft....beta my nuts...the way its acting with me i yell alpha
[03:03] <Guest998> ok, so, the easiest is to get 9.10 from where?
[03:03] <Vantrax> lol:P
[03:04] <Guest998> hehehe
[03:04] <Vantrax> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[03:04] <Vantrax> that will take you right to the link
[03:04] <Guest998> does OSX have something builtin to burn iso to cd?
[03:04] <Guest998> ...I haven't worked with 10.5 much
[03:05] <Vantrax> Im pretty sure it does
[03:05] <Guest998> I'm just hoping not to find that Toast CD....
[03:05] <Vantrax> i havent worked that much with 10.5 either
[03:06] <Guest998> ok, Van, unfortunately, your help will drive me away from you
[03:06] <Guest998> I'm off to DL that distro and then go to the bar
[03:06] <Vantrax> he he he
[03:06] <Guest998> I really appreciate the help, friend
[03:06] <Vantrax> if that doesnt work, try the Alternate disk, it tends to have EVERYTHING on it
[03:06] <Guest998> My name is Mike
[03:07] <Guest998> I normally go by the handle "ScruffytheJanitr"
[03:07] <Vantrax> Hi mike:P
[03:08] <Guest998> I'm sure I'll have more question, friend, but I'll either DL this on my PC or on this Mac, but either way, I'm grabbing a drink!
[03:08] <Guest998> cheers, and thanks for the help!
[04:16] <shahan> hello everyone
[04:16] <shahan> I am a UBUNTU 9.10 desktop user
[04:16] <PabloRubianes> hi shahan
[04:16] <LzrdKing> yayQ
[04:16] <LzrdKing> yay!
[04:16] <LzrdKing> its dark
[04:16] <shahan> I want to use a good Multimedia Player for listening Audio and Video like MP3, 3GP, .DAT
[04:16] <shahan> PabloRubianes: and so on...
[04:17] <shahan> PabloRubianes: which player I should select?
[04:17] <pedro3005> You can try Rhythmbox, that comes with Ubuntu
[04:18] <PabloRubianes> shahan: ohh that's a tricky question ;-) you should try till you get what you want. I use rhythmbox
[04:18] <shahan> PabloRubianes: As I was using Windows for a long time....the player Totem doesnt make me satisfied, Rhythmbox also not
[04:18] <swoody> shahan: this may be of use to you :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[04:18] <PabloRubianes> which one you use in windows shahan?
[04:18] <swoody> shahan: (and I use VLC) ;)
[04:19] <shahan> swoody: VLC..... I hope that will be fine...
[04:19] <pedro3005> I myself use Banshee, and I find it nice
[04:19] <shahan> swoody: but I am looking for a good interfaced player
[04:19] <swoody> shahan: you can customize VLC's interface with different themes :)
[04:19] <shahan> ok...thanks alll
[04:19] <shahan> swoody: hmm
[04:19] <PabloRubianes> VLC is great for video!
[04:20] <shahan> going to install VLC
[04:20] <shahan> :)
[04:21] <swoody> shahan: take a read over that link, too. To get all of your audio formats to play correctly, you're going to need to be sure the needed codecs are installed
[04:21] <Vantrax> vlc is a good option
[04:21] <Vantrax> also some people like mplayer
[04:21] <shahan> swoody: ok...tnx
[04:22] <shahan> another problem is I am not getting any webdesignning software like Dreamweaver in UBUNTU
[04:22] <shahan> ?
[04:23] <shahan> Is there any solution
[04:23] <PabloRubianes> the closer to Dreamweaver is Komposer
[04:23] <PabloRubianes> but it is not the same
[04:24] <PabloRubianes> as it has WYSIWYG
[08:35] <Akos> hi team
[08:35] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> hey
[11:01] <man0riaX> Morning
[11:04] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> morning
[11:28] <leoquant> man0riaX ZeRoDeAtH50435 morning
[11:36] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> morning
[14:21] <LzrdKing> how come when i right click on my desktop in openbox and click Configure or OBConf, nothing happens?  what should happen?
[14:27] <znxtch> Magnatune wont play in Rhythm Box.  Using Karmic.  Any ideas?
[14:32] <zeroseven0183> znxtch, what version of Rhythmbox are you using?
[14:34] <LzrdKing> ugh, if i'm running screen, then ssh to a host and run screen there, how do i detach that inner screen?  control-A-D just detaches the outer screen
[14:41] <Akos> ssh to the inner screen and detachet, get back to the other screen and it's out
[14:42] <LzrdKing> detatch with screen -d?
[14:43] <Akos> no, screen -r to it, and when you're in control-a-d
[14:43] <Akos> or check the manual, how to detach a screen
[14:43] <LzrdKing> control-a-d detached my outer screen
[14:43] <Akos> you can kill the process that attached it
[14:43] <LzrdKing> i ended up just killing the window, which was annoying since i was ssh'ed into a host and then ssh'ed into another host that was running screen
[14:44] <LzrdKing> does karmic not use /etc/inittab?
[14:44] <Akos> well ssh directly in to the 2nd host without going through all of it
[14:44] <Akos> good question, i do not know
[14:45] <LzrdKing> i have to go through the first host as it is my firewall and the second host is behind it
[14:45] <Akos> ouh
[14:45] <LzrdKing> its ok now
[14:46] <LzrdKing> i thikn karmic uses /etc/init/ now
[14:52] <LzrdKing> ok, i think i've set it up to automatically login and startx then start openbox and its configured applications, but i can't test till i get home
[14:52] <LzrdKing> if openbox started certain programs when i logged in with XDM, will it start those when i run startx too?
[15:00] <Akos> LzrdKing: you'd have to wait un til an openbox user comes around, so just ask the question later on if you wish
[15:00] <LzrdKing> well its not really an openbox question, its more of a xdm starting a wm vs startx starting a wm question
[16:19] <hobgoblin> good day nigelb
[16:19] <nigelb> hey hobgoblin
[16:19] <nigelb> Indeed its a great day today :)
[16:33] <cjay554> hows are all the beginners doing? :P
[16:34] <hobgoblin> not sure there are many about - a week or two and there might be
[17:17] <LzrdKing> if openbox started certain programs when i logged in with XDM, will it start those when i run startx too?
[17:24] <rulitwyn> can anyone give me any help with nvidia drivers?
[17:27] <phillw> rulitwyn: what sort of help ?
[17:27] <rulitwyn> anyone?
[17:27] <phillw> rulitwyn: what help do you need?
[17:44] <znxtch> Does anyone know where I can find "complete" themes for Gnome?  gimp-look offers themes but you have to piece them together if you know what I mean.
[17:50] <phillw> znxtch: in what way 'complete' ? for your desktop?
[17:54] <phillw> www.techiesouls.com/2008/11/27/collection-of-50-best-looking-linux-gnomeubuntu-themes-to-download/  and gnome-look.org/  offer themes
[17:58] <znxtch> thank you
[17:59] <znxtch> What I meant by comlete was the controls, window border, icons, etc were all made as one
[18:13] <phillw> znxtch:  more like this ?
[18:14] <phillw> www.techieblogger.com/2009/10/stunning-ubuntu-gnome-desktop-themes.html
[18:14] <znxtch> Yep, perfect.  Now just have to figure out how to install them. :D
[18:14] <znxtch> uhh. . .I'm new.
[18:17] <phillw> that's okay , just click on the 1st theme, and it will walk you through downloading them
[18:17] <znxtch> Sweet, thank you.
[18:18] <phillw> znxtch: I should add that i have never used them, but others have and been okay following the instructions
[18:19] <znxtch> It sounds like your attempting to protect yourself from any liability with that statement. Haha!
[18:19] <phillw> znxtch: you'd better believe it :-D
[18:20] <phillw> you should be okay, they are reported as working.
[18:21] <znxtch> WE'LL see.  (Notice my attempt at making this an US thing so as to drag you in.)
[18:23] <phillw> do read the notes at the bottom of the page
[18:23] <ikt> this will be interesting
[18:24]  * ikt notes that he is now a bystander
[18:24] <phillw> ikt, are you using ubuntu ?
[18:24] <ikt> yeah
[18:25] <phillw> passes znxtch to ikt --> reason, using lxde :-D
[18:25] <phillw> << lubuntu
[18:25] <ikt> ah
[18:25] <ikt> My internets are slowed at the moment, the page I clicked on a few minutes ago still hasn't loaded anything
 www.techieblogger.com/2009/10/stunning-ubuntu-gnome-desktop-themes.html <- that one
[18:26] <phillw> thats a heck of a lot of themes !!!
[18:27] <ikt> I'm finding the included 10.04 themes adequate
[18:27] <phillw> if the OP gets stuck & no one can help, i can boot into either 9.10 or 10.04 'main', just I'm running 10.04 lubuntu as my day to day operating system
[18:27] <ikt> though I'm severely disappointed with the look of the buttons and plymouth splash
[18:28] <phillw> << glad i still all my buttons in the olde fashioned place ;-)
[18:29] <phillw> but does appreciate that they've moved them for a reason.
[18:29] <ikt> oh I have no issue with them on the left
[18:29] <ikt> just they look very un
[18:29] <ikt> unsmooth? unprofessional?
[18:29] <running_rabbit07> Does IP Tables automatically keep logs or does it have to be commanded to do so?
[18:29] <ikt> like something I would see in windows 98 not a 2010 os
[18:30] <phillw> running_rabbit07: i wasn't aware iptables kept logs, i thought it was a look up table?
[18:30] <phillw> <<leaves it to those who know
[18:31] <ikt> well ip tables is installed on ubuntu by default
[18:31] <ikt> but it allows all traffic through because there are no listening interfaces
[18:31] <ikt> so there is nothing to log
[18:31] <ikt> afaik
[18:32] <phillw> running_rabbit07: if you're interested in what ubuntu does for logging 'incoming' calls, then I'd suggest reading bodhi's stuff over at ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=338
[18:32] <running_rabbit07> I know that in GUFW you can turn on logging to ports after adding rules, but I wasn't sure if there was a log that showed when ports were opened.
[18:33] <running_rabbit07> thanx ikt and phillw
[18:33] <phillw> a more complete set of notes I doubt you will find
[18:33] <running_rabbit07> lol
[18:34] <ikt> think I'm going to give up on that desktop theme site
[18:39] <phillw> ikt: as i tend to have either my gmail account or browser window open full screen, I just leave the desktop as it is, i can imagine people wanting to play but it is just not something I'm really bothered with.
[18:40] <ikt> I have to much free time on my hands so I like to tinker around a bit
[18:46] <phillw> ikt: make a new partition and test out xubuntu, kubuntu etc, they always grateful :-)
[18:47] <ikt> I should but I'm more concerned about a major bug that shouldn't be there at the moment
[18:47] <ikt> I'd like to focus my energies on it
[18:48] <phillw> i'm really enjoying lubuntu, all of those smaller teams do appreciate an extra computer to test it. ikt, which major bug :-(
[18:48] <ikt> plymouth displays a big ugly 640x480 16 colour logo if you have an ati or nvidia proprietary driver installed
[18:49] <phillw> ikt: the first screen from install CD has had the logo dropped, is that what you mean ?
[18:50] <ikt> nah, the actual ubuntu boot up logo is a pixelated mess
[18:51] <phillw> on the log in screen ?
[18:53] <ikt> before the login
[18:53] <phillw> ikt, this one? http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/tmp/ubuntu-boot-screen.png
[18:53] <LzrdKing> i need to figure out how to install an ssl cert in apache
[18:54] <phillw> LzrdKing: which version of ubuntu are you on ?
[18:55] <LzrdKing> phillw: centos release 5.4 final
[18:55] <ikt> http://jantechblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/ubuntu1004branding-large_004.jpg
[18:56] <phillw> LzrdKing: centos is not ubuntu, you may be better asking over at centos.org/
[18:56] <LzrdKing> :)
[18:56] <ikt> now compress that image into 640x480 and decrease it to 16 colours, stretch it out on a 1680 x 1050 screen and it looks bad :/
[18:56] <LzrdKing> i know
[18:57] <LzrdKing> but apache is apache :P
[18:58] <ikt> phillw, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1458230 <- is one of about 10 threads already on the topic
[18:58] <phillw> the methodology of applying an ssl differs between variants, if i gave you the one for 9.10, for example, centos may be not be set up the same ?
[18:59] <phillw> ikt: I know that the http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/tmp/ubuntu-boot-screen.png has been changed to http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/tmp/ubuntu-boot-screen-new.png The reason for this is to avoid the new branding being distorted on some
[18:59] <phillw> hardware due to
[18:59] <phillw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/+bug/536692 .
[19:00] <LzrdKing> phillw: i also did not ask for help, i just stated i needed to do it
[19:00] <phillw> LzrdKing: i am not giving you help, as i do not which set of instructions you need?
[19:00] <ikt> Oops!
[19:00] <ikt> Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[19:02] <phillw> LzrdKing: i know how to do it with 9.10, it is different for different versions, e.g. www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Apache2_SSL_in_Ubuntu
[19:03] <LzrdKing> i have instructions from thawte, but they are terrible
[19:05] <phillw> LzrdKing: if you have the correct version of centos, try gaarai.com/2009/01/14/adding-ssl-support-to-apache-on-centos/  But you are on a ubuntu help area, we have enough on our plate supporting ubuntu. I do not mean offence, we just are simply not "up to speed" on centos.
[19:05] <LzrdKing> phillw: i understand
[19:06] <phillw> LzrdKing: in such things, google is your friend :-)
[19:06] <LzrdKing> i use ubuntu at home, i just installed 9.10 server with X for a htpc; using nfs its so much faster than 9.04-desktop under wubi that i can now play HD
[19:06] <LzrdKing> using nfs instead of cifs*
[19:06] <LzrdKing> and it boots in like, 1 second
[19:07] <phillw> LzrdKing: imho, wubi is there just for people to 'play' with, sooner or later you will need a 'full' ubuntu installation. - I stress that is purely MHO
[19:09] <ikt> phillw, yeah that's fine but it's still a major issue and I think it's just plain stupid to go ahead and do something like this
[19:09] <LzrdKing> i just thought the computer couldn't handle HD, but i guess wubi was really slowing it down that much
[19:09] <LzrdKing> it wasn;t really the change to nfs, because it wouldn't play HD locally
[19:09] <ikt> it would be similar to microsoft releasing windows 7 with a splash screen of windows 98 when nvidia didn't do what they want
[19:09] <ikt> canonical should get some relations with nvidia already
[19:09] <LzrdKing> but then, the windows install couldn't play HD either
[19:09] <ikt> or ati or both and figure this stuff out
[19:10] <phillw> LzrdKing: it has the whole of windows as an overhead, as it is running 'inside' of windows, this is never going to give a fast operating system :P
[19:10] <LzrdKing> phillw: it just has ntfs as overhead, it doesn;t boot windows
[19:11] <phillw> ikt: the fights between nvidia & ati for 'who is the fastest' means that open source is a long way down the list of who they care about. :-(
[19:12] <phillw> LzrdKing: wubi runs as virtual machine within windows, albeit on it's own virtual ext3 area, it still has windows there
[19:13] <phillw> LzrdKing: i could be wrong, as i have not run wubi, these days most people can spare 10GB of hard disk space to pop ubuntu on as dual boot, but we're drifiting off-topic for beginners
[19:13] <LzrdKing> so you're saying it boots windows?
[19:15] <phillw> LzrdKing: i stand corrected... It's only Ubuntu running, running on top of the Windows filesystem (VFAT or NTFS), but not Windows itself.
[19:16] <phillw> so you're not using the ext3 / ext4 system at all
[19:17] <phillw> LzrdKing: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775956
[19:19] <phillw> LzrdKing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[19:36] <jfoozie420> hello can someone help???
[19:48] <phillw> hi bodhi_zazen
[20:02] <bodhi_zazen> lol phillw
[20:11] <znxtch> Anyone have know a starting place to get Rhythmbox tracking with my IPod touch?
[20:25] <paultag> znxtch, beware :/
[20:25] <paultag> znxtch, I just destroyed my iTouch 1.1.3's music DB, if that happens you have to restore it and redo it with iTunes ( that I don't have :( )
[20:26] <paultag> znxtch, I have not run a post-mortum on it, but be careful. It should work OTB in Lucid, but that's how I borked
[20:26] <paultag> it *
[20:27] <znxtch> Damnit.
[20:27] <znxtch> Haha I'm on google
[20:27] <znxtch> and everything is like IPod touch sucks on linux
[20:27] <znxtch> lol
[20:28] <znxtch> I hate this IPod touch.  I'm selling it for something older ASAP.
[20:28] <znxtch> I thought I needed it but I was so. . .so wrong
[20:29] <znxtch> Is there anyway to JailBreak an IPod Touch in Ubuntu?  I went all the way and run purely on Ubuntu now.  And I'd really rather not reinstall os x or windows if I dont have to.
[20:40] <paultag> znxtch, haha there is so much crap with the touch
[20:40] <paultag> znxtch, don't think you can jailbreak on GNU/Linux yet
[20:40] <paultag> znxtch, Hell, we can hardly sync, you can see where the effort is going ;)
[20:43]  * znxtch is crushed
[20:43] <znxtch> If I wasn't in my current prediciment this would be too easy but right now I am stuck with the GD Ipod Touch!
[20:43]  * znxtch post craigslist add
[20:43] <znxtch> *will trade ipod touch 8gb for 80gb oldschool
[20:44] <znxtch> lol
[20:44] <paultag> znxtch, I hear ya man
[20:45] <paultag> znxtch, I have a touch without music, sucks ass
[20:45] <paultag> znxtch, I have to wait to try and find someone with a Mac or Winblows
[20:45] <znxtch> I really dont want to install another os just for a flippin mp3 player
[20:45] <znxtch> lol
[20:45] <znxtch> I may break down eventually
[20:46] <znxtch> Any mp3 players that will work with Linux>?
[20:46] <znxtch> most generic ones should right?
[20:48] <Raidsong> paultag uses an ipod? WHA!
[20:48] <paultag> Raidsong, :P
[20:48] <paultag> znxtch, I hear ya. Most iPods work
[20:48] <paultag> znxtch, but not Phone or Touch
[20:48] <Raidsong> how about the zune?
[20:48] <paultag> they are also the best supported znxtch
[20:48] <paultag> Raidsong, HALLLLLLLL NAW
[20:49] <znxtch> thanks for the info paul
[20:50] <znxtch> i wouldve went nuts trying to "find a way"
[20:50] <znxtch> people helpin' people. . .it's a beautiful thing
[20:51] <paultag> znxtch, sure thing, man
[20:52] <znxtch> Okay I know I'm going to sound like the new guy here but. . .
[20:53] <znxtch> anyone got any amazing software for ubuntu thatll blow my mind. me being a less than a week old linux convert
[20:53] <znxtch> hah
[20:55] <paultag> znxtch, haha
[20:55] <paultag> znxtch, have you seen the desktop effects yet?
[20:55] <znxtch> im on regular.
[20:55] <paultag> znxtch, how good is your hardware?
[20:55] <znxtch> i turned it on high and all i noticed where the "wavy windows"
[20:55] <znxtch> im on a macbook
[20:55] <znxtch> pretty decent
[20:56] <paultag> znxtch, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager -y && ccsm
[20:56] <paultag> znxtch, run that and then fiddle. That will be a whole new ballgame for the effects.
[20:56] <znxtch> Oh I'm excited
[20:57] <paultag> znxtch, you can set up all kinds of goodies ( no wall of desktops, but a cube or cylinder )
[20:57] <paultag> fades and other stuff
[20:57] <paultag> there is a lot there
[20:57] <paultag> hey brb znxtch, I have a loco meeting to get to right quick. I'll be here but I won't ;)
[20:58] <znxtch> cool
[21:23] <znxtch> im in trouble
[21:23] <znxtch> i played with compiz too much
[21:23] <znxtch> i uninstalled it
[21:23] <znxtch> but my windows still are using all the nutty effects
[21:23] <znxtch> reboot?
[21:25] <pedro3005> znxtch, or restart X
[21:25] <znxtch> restart x?
[21:26] <pedro3005> znxtch, have you got anything against rebooting?
[21:26] <znxtch> no
[21:26] <pedro3005> then do so
[21:35] <znxtch> reboot didnt work
[21:35] <znxtch> its still doing the crazy wiggly shit when i minimize windows
[22:07] <geoff_> I have recently upgraded to Karmic.  After going idle, the system will not resume by mouse or keyboard.  Any ideas.
[22:12] <running_rabbit07> does anyone here use tcpdump? I am trying to figure out how to create the a filter file.
[22:12] <ikt> znxtch, is that compiz?
[22:13] <running_rabbit07> geoff, I am using Lucid, it does the same thing, I have to hit the power button to wake it up
[22:13] <ikt> geoff_, whenever anyone says 'upgraded' I almost instantly think to reinstall fresh
[22:14] <ikt> by idle is that suspend or just the screensaver?
[22:14] <geoff_> I have seen the reports on Lucid.  Idle is just the screensaver
[22:15] <geoff_> A fresh reinstall loses previous settings?
[22:16] <ikt> yeah
[22:16] <running_rabbit07> You'll keep settings, but you'll have to reinstall your programs
[22:16] <ikt> which settings?
[22:17] <geoff_> the gnome gui
[22:17] <running_rabbit07> every setting within /home
[22:17] <ikt> oh
[22:17] <ikt> does he have /home on a seperate partition?
[22:17] <running_rabbit07> good question
[22:18] <running_rabbit07> I keep assuming
[22:18] <running_rabbit07> =)
[22:19] <geoff_> home is on the main partition
[22:21] <geoff_> looking at the bios apm configuration
[22:22] <geoff_> I see that Power On by PS/2 keyboard is disabled
[22:22] <geoff_> what does that mean
[22:31] <paultag> pleia2, poke
[22:31] <pleia2> yo
[22:34]  * pleia2 a bit busy at work
[22:39] <paultag> pleia2, sorry, I'll get back to you later
[23:26] <SuperAlekZ> hey, anyone there? :)
[23:26] <Vantrax> most likely
[23:26] <SuperAlekZ> need some help with webserver stuff on debian :/
[23:27] <Flare-Laptop> SuperAlekZ: o.O
[23:27] <SuperAlekZ> ? :D
[23:27] <Flare-Laptop> ask away
[23:28] <Flare-Laptop> SuperAlekZ: ^^
[23:28] <SuperAlekZ> alright, got a domain and a database-backup (SQL) and files
[23:28] <SuperAlekZ> need to transfer them to my new rootserver :D
[23:28] <SuperAlekZ> nearly blank one
[23:28] <Flare-Laptop> alright
[23:29] <Flare-Laptop> SuperAlekZ: And do you have ssh/shell access to that server?
[23:29] <SuperAlekZ> Of course
[23:29] <Flare-Laptop> alright
[23:29] <SuperAlekZ> full access mate!
[23:29] <SuperAlekZ> :D
[23:29] <Flare-Laptop> lol
[23:29] <Flare-Laptop> got LAMP installed?
[23:29] <SuperAlekZ> nope
[23:29] <Flare-Laptop> SuperAlekZ: do you know what lamp is?
[23:30] <SuperAlekZ> well is it Linux apache mysql php?
[23:30] <Flare-Laptop> !lamp | SuperAlekZ
[23:30] <Votebot> SuperAlekZ: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[23:30] <Flare-Laptop> SuperAlekZ: yup :P
[23:30] <SuperAlekZ> or is this the name for a programm
[23:30] <SuperAlekZ> oh alright :D
[23:30] <SuperAlekZ> well mysql and php are installed
[23:30] <Flare-Laptop> well you need apache as well if its a webserver
[23:30] <SuperAlekZ> i don't know about apache, because i don't know how to find out
[23:31] <SuperAlekZ> lawl, i need a goddamn helicopter in my rootserver :X
[23:31] <Flare-Laptop> whoa language
[23:31] <Flare-Laptop> !apache | SuperAlekZ
[23:31] <Votebot> SuperAlekZ: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[23:31] <Flare-Laptop> crap lol
[23:31] <SuperAlekZ> so, i gotta type !apache?
[23:32] <Flare-Laptop> nah
[23:32] <SuperAlekZ> :>
[23:32] <Flare-Laptop> sudo apt-get install apache
[23:32] <SuperAlekZ> why do i need sudo and not just "apt-get install (...)"?
[23:32] <SuperAlekZ> sudo isn't for debian afaik
[23:32] <Flare-Laptop> SuperAlekZ: sudo is the only what you can temporarily be root
[23:33] <SuperAlekZ> it says command not found
[23:33] <Flare-Laptop> :/
[23:33] <SuperAlekZ> if i do it without sudo there's this:
[23:33] <Flare-Laptop> meh debain
[23:33] <Flare-Laptop> debian*
[23:33] <SuperAlekZ> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package apache is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package apache has no installation candidate
[23:33] <Flare-Laptop> figures
[23:34] <SuperAlekZ> figures?
[23:34] <Flare-Laptop> SuperAlekZ: Dude here's the thing, I'm using Ubuntu Server Edition. Not Debian. so yeah
[23:34] <Flare-Laptop> I figured that*
[23:35] <SuperAlekZ> Sorry I'm just not that experienced in server-administration.
[23:35] <SuperAlekZ> And I really really appreciate your help!
[23:36] <Flare-Laptop> SuperAlekZ: connect to irc.debian.org
[23:36] <Flare-Laptop> and join #debian on that network
[23:36] <Flare-Laptop> they'll help you
[23:36] <SuperAlekZ> alright, thanks :)
[23:37] <Flare-Laptop> np
[23:52] <ghostofmybrain> what's the equivalent to ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew
[23:53] <pedro3005> sudo ifconfig eth0 down & sudo ifconfig eth0 up ?
[23:54] <ghostofmybrain> aha!
[23:55] <ghostofmybrain> my router still does't list the computer in the dhcp client list. any ideas of what else to try?
[23:56] <ghostofmybrain> my windows computer wasn't listed a few minutes ago but ipconfig /release and /renew solved that issue.