[00:10] hello, i want to store the mails i send from moziila thunderbird in the sendbox of my mail acount, is it possible? [00:11] b3n4dd1: what does that mean? [00:11] b3n4dd1: you can setup something in prefereces as "sent folder" [00:11] for an account [00:14] asac: for instance, i send a mail from thunderbird, i want to have it not only in sendmail box in thunderbird, but also in sentmail box in my on line mail acount [00:15] b3n4dd1: that's a setting in account preferences [00:16] micahg: are you sure? i wan't find it, which release do you have? i have thunderbird 3.0.4 [00:16] same one' [00:17] b3n4dd1: Edit -> Account Settings -> Copies and Folders under the account [00:18] i ve already checked it, i can't ifnd it there micahg [00:18] b3n4dd1: it's the first thing that [00:19] *there [00:20] micahg: no it's no the first field, the first fiel is to specify where to save send messages in the computer not in my acouont [00:22] looks like you can specify it in "other" [00:22] my gmail account shows up in there, and it lets me choose the folders [00:22] b3n4dd1: are you using IMAP or POP? [00:23] POP [00:23] b3n4dd1: there's your problem [00:23] ahh oki :) [00:23] thx micahg [00:24] i have just to turn it into IMAP ? [00:24] what about port number? [00:24] b3n4dd1: with IMAP you can subscribe to folders in your account and then select that folder to store send messages [00:24] b3n4dd1: can't convert [00:24] b3n4dd1: need to create new account in thunderbird [00:25] micahg: hmmm ok thx [00:25] b3n4dd1: there's a bug open upstream [00:25] b3n4dd1: for converting from POP to IMAP === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [09:10] From the Hills, I shout: Guud Morning === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [10:09] !seen micahg [10:09] I have no seen command [11:51] now its timing out :( === BUGabundo_remote is now known as BUGabundo_lunch [12:13] i guess the daily bot for FF TB ect.. is down?so far i only had java and chromium updated === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [12:54] i miss using firefox :( arora is starting t get to me (the way it acts) === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_remote [13:08] !info firefox karmic [13:08] firefox (source: firefox-3.5): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 (karmic), package size 71 kB, installed size 128 kB [13:26] BUGabundo_remote, http://www.lescretins.com/videos/1-videos/2662-musique-avec-les-sons-derreurs-de-windows.html [13:27] darn trolls in +1 :( [13:28] BUGabundo_remote, btw, http:// is back in the paste :) [13:28] checking [13:28] yeah I know [13:28] I'm subbed to all 4 extra bugs [13:28] *most* pastes now work fine [13:28] not all [13:28] but almost all [13:28] now its bugs in apps [13:28] ? [13:28] wfm in xchat & xterm [13:29] and in evolution [13:29] fta: missing plugin [13:29] can't watch that, sorry [13:29] that's flash [13:29] kmail, pidgin, etc still fail a lot [13:29] don't have flash on that pc :) [13:37] BUGabundo_remote: im watching over +1 but also doing email. if there is a problem just let me know. [13:40] ok gnomefreak === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak [13:42] will nspluginwrapper still be needed for flash once firefox 3.6.4 is out? [13:45] Dimmuxx, define needed [13:48] can I remove it and 32bit flash will still work in firefox 64bit because of OOPP? [13:48] ahh, no idea [14:14] Dimmuxx, i'm not sure, but please test the 3.6.4 package in https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa :-) [14:14] i'm using 64-bit flash here, so no nspluginwrapper [14:18] I'm currently on 32bit though but I'm thinking about switching and that's why I asked ;) === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak [14:38] chrisccoulson: do you think we should do another thunderbird release for bug 509248? Seems like an easy fix. Should I have it bake in PPA for a day or 2? [14:38] Launchpad bug 509248 in thunderbird "[PPA] Thunderbird 3 Shows only English dictionary in Spell menu" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/509248 [14:39] micahg - yes, we should try and get that in [14:39] chrisccoulson: k, I'll make the update, I guess we'll branch Lucid to actually release to archive, but should we test in PPA build first? [14:40] micahg - what do you also think about bug 543060 too? i'm wondering if i should get that in too, as people upgrading don't have -gnome-support [14:40] Launchpad bug 543060 in thunderbird "thunderbird - gnome integration should work even without -gnome-support" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/543060 [14:41] k, seems reasonable [14:41] micahg - i think the importance of bug 543064 and bug 543060 is probably the wrong way round. have you got an opinion on that? [14:41] Launchpad bug 543064 in thunderbird "ensure that x-www-browser is used if no http handler is found through gnome integration" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/543064 [14:41] Launchpad bug 543060 in thunderbird "thunderbird - gnome integration should work even without -gnome-support" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/543060 [14:42] i think using x-www-browser as a fallback is a "nice to have" at the moment, but i'd rather actually have gnome support working for everybody out of the box [14:43] chrisccoulson: what you're saying makes sense in terms of urgency, but the priorities are set since the first is a regression and the second one is an enhancement [14:44] micahg - i'm not sure the second one is an enhancement though, as upgraders from karmic don't get gnome-support anymore [14:44] (as the package is not installed by default) [14:44] there was a package for it in karmic [14:46] hmmm, now i'm confused [14:46] one second [14:51] micahg - the thunderbird-gnome-support package in karmic is empty (like firefox-gnome-support) [14:51] so gnome support works in karmic without installing thunderbird-gnome-support [14:51] chrisccoulson: hmmm...weird, ok, well, I guess that's a regression as well [14:53] yeah, it is. ok, so we need to do one more upload before release [14:55] hmmm, the test suite for the new IPC stuff fails :-/ [15:13] chrisccoulson: I seem to be having trouble with .links for thunderbird [15:15] chrisccoulson: does .links not support * expansion? [15:15] micahg - no, i don't think so [15:15] chrisccoulson: ah, ok, I'll add to rules [15:17] gnomefreak: I try to do too much, that's my problem [15:23] hey asac you around [15:23] or bdrung [15:23] found something that im not sure if you guys are aware of and its a rather nasty bug and exploit [15:23] in java [15:23] * bdrung is here. [15:23] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558584 <--- exploit in java deployment kit i think [15:23] which has been around since april 2008 and still not fixed [15:24] Mozilla bug 558584 in Blocklisting "Blocklist Java Deployment Toolkit plugin" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] [15:24] just thought i would give you mozilla devs a heads up regarding the black list [15:25] btw bdrung they arent sure if linux is affected by the exploit [15:26] micahg: your getting good at it ;) im just waiting for 1 bug to get fixed in firefox, arora is too damn slow as well [15:26] eagles05138785: you probably want to talk to asac - i am doing mostly extension packaging [15:27] gotcha [15:27] gnomefreak: u want a scare bug take a look at the exploit my friend linked to me this morning [15:27] * gnomefreak still has >2000 emails im working on [15:27] have fun [15:27] * gnomefreak didnt see that [15:28] gnomefreak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUUGNkG0o5g [15:28] whoops not that lol [15:28] unless u like electronica kinda music lol [15:28] gnomefreak: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558584 [15:28] Mozilla bug 558584 in Blocklisting "Blocklist Java Deployment Toolkit plugin" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] [15:29] metal when working [15:30] im gearing up for a party [15:30] and maybe a ministry of sound event here in malta i might have a dj slot in [15:33] java has sucked since day one so im not suprised at the bug [15:33] thing is they arent gonna fix it until their next big release in july [15:33] eagles05138785: we already have the latest version in lucid [15:34] micahg: im not sure if its affecting the latest version as well or if the exploit affects linux like it says in the bug [15:34] eagles05138785: it is java bug and the latest version fixed it [15:34] * gnomefreak read the bug :) [15:34] really then how come they are black listing it in windows [15:35] windows sucks almost as bad as java with exploits [15:35] lol true [15:35] * gnomefreak be back in a few [15:36] fta: paste even fails to gmail using chromium :( [15:36] is it safe to mount /var/run in a chroot? [15:36] if you unmonut before removing the chroot its probably ok [15:37] I seem to have a problem configuring dbus in my hardy chroot [15:40] micahg: just bindmount that file it asks for [15:40] not the whole dir [15:40] that worked for me [15:40] asac: k [15:40] asac: I was missing /proc [15:43] bah, it's so noisy here today [15:43] one of my neighbours is having a new driveway at the moment [15:44] asac: seamonkey is almost done, I have a problem with update-alternatives which I'll have to get some help with later [15:45] i can probably help with that when you need it [15:45] chrisccoulson: k, a little later maybe, I'm going to push up the thunderbird dictionary fix then head to $WORK [15:45] micahg - ok, no problem [15:50] asac: not sure if you have seen https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558584 [15:50] Mozilla bug 558584 in Blocklisting "Blocklist Java Deployment Toolkit plugin" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] [15:55] chrisccoulson: my links issue is probably the same w/Seamonkey i.e. trying to do * expansion in a .links file [15:56] micahg - yeah, most probably === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [16:49] ok damnit im running out of browsers to use someone fix one of them please. ff,aroa,chromium == way too slow epiphany is jumbled buttons on text [16:52] gnomefreak - maybe you need a faster computer? ;) [16:52] chrisccoulson: no epiphany is fast the ff ff-3.7 chrom and aroa all freeze up [16:53] fast == jumbled [17:18] !info lightning-extension hardy [17:19] lightning-extension (source: lightning-sunbird): Calendar Extension for Thunderbird/Icedove. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 1133 kB, installed size 4228 kB [17:19] thats what i thought [18:30] chrisccoulson: will be back in here right after lunch, (desktop meeting happens over my normal lunch time) [18:30] ccheney, ok, no worries. i will be away for dinner shortly, but i'll be around for most of the evening [18:31] ok [18:33] micahg - will you be around for a while? [18:33] chrisccoulson: yep, next 7 hours or so [18:34] micahg - ok, cool. we need to get together with ccheney and plan out what needs to happen to update firefox in hardy [18:34] chrisccoulson: k [18:35] chrisccoulson: so the issue the last i worked on epiphany was i had backported gtkentry c file in its entirety but that caused issues with the callbacks not being properly registered and then calling back into the original hardy gtkentry and BOOM crash :) [18:36] ccheney: firefox should work, but something in the last build broke [18:36] chrisccoulson: so asac had told me that i needed to hook up the new functions (iirc) using the init function so it would callback correctly [18:36] chrisccoulson: and i was starting to look into that when i had to get back to fixing OOo rc bugs before lucid release... [18:37] ccheney: when you get back from lunch, I want to talk to you about dictionaries common [18:37] micahg: ok [18:37] * ccheney -> lunch [18:37] i think getting epiphany-browser finally done would be the highest priority for ccheney for this [18:37] asac: yea [18:37] asac: shouldn't be much work for ccheney if any for firefox backport [18:37] would be a huge accomplishment [18:37] ok, i need to get myself up to speed with the hardy stuff, and then i can help out too [18:39] my most recent compilable work for epiphany is in my personal ppa [18:39] will take a look at my current diff from that after i get back from lunch and see what i still need to do and/or ask questions about [18:40] iirc my last upload was from before trying to fix the callback mess [18:40] * ccheney really off to lunch now, messages logged === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:12] asac: how much do we care about lintian warnings for Seamonkey 2 [19:12] micahg: warnings? usually not so much [19:12] at lesat if they are not new [19:13] like image data in /usr/lib is fine [19:13] asac: non-existent license is one of the [19:13] *them [19:26] micahg: why is there no license? [19:26] I think it's out of date [19:26] it seems to point to an old GPL license [19:44] * ccheney back [19:45] * micahg will be back in a few minutes [19:51] * BUGabundo waves o/ [19:54] fta: one more ludcris change: lost right click on tabs to duplicate to private browsing and pinning :( [20:10] * micahg is available [20:10] micahg - i branched thunderbird for lucid now [20:11] (i've got your symlink fix in the local branch here, will push the updates once i've tested them) [20:11] chrisccoulson: can you do me a favor, if you create new team branches, can you subscribe me? [20:11] yeah, no problem [20:11] BUGabundo, weird, i still have those [20:11] chrisccoulson: thanks [20:11] not on mine [20:11] and im not the 1st to notice either [20:12] restarted it yet? [20:12] 5.0.382.0 (44999) Ubuntu [20:16] yep [20:28] hey [20:28] Micah told me to come on here and chat about the problem I was having [20:28] so tell us about it fermulator [20:29] Premise: [20:29] What's the deal with the Firefox "Mozilla Team" PPA? I thought this PPA [20:29] >> was supposed to provide a stable branch of Firefox? [20:29] >> [20:29] >> A few days ago, it suggested upgrading to the latest 3.6.4pre ... which, [20:29] >> as it turns out, is NOT stable. :-( [20:29] >> (More details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457241) [20:30] >> [20:30] >> Would be interested to know why a "pre" release was let into the wild on [20:30] >> a stable PPA. [20:30] >> [20:30] it was suggested that i had the wrong PPA (by accident installed a daily or something instead of stable) --- but this was my APT sources file [20:30] fermulator@fermmy:/etc/apt$ sudo grep -rin firefox * [20:30] sources.list.d/mozilla-firefox.list:1:#deb http://1.0.0.2:3142/ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu jaunty main [20:30] sources.list.d/mozilla-firefox.list:2:#deb-src http://1.0.0.2:3142/ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu jaunty main [20:31] (they're commented out now, but weren't before of course) [20:34] fermulator, perhaps you could put your source.list on http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [20:34] you didn't get 3.6.4pre from the firefox-stable PPA [20:36] apt-cache madison firefox [20:37] fta - thanks, i was just trying to figure out how to do that ;) [20:38] ah ha [20:38] i see now [20:38] I was testing out the latest thunderbird version, so I added the daily for that, not realizing it would impact my firefox. [20:38] sources.list.d/thunderbird.list:1:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main [20:38] sources.list.d/thunderbird.list:2:deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main [20:38] . [20:38] fermulator: apt-pinning [20:38] !pastebin > fermulator [20:38] fermulator, please see my private message [20:39] sorry, will do so next time [20:39] fermulator: didn't I already explain that to you [20:40] as it turns out though, it was my mistake, like you thought Micah, I did indeed have a daily, but just didn't know it. [20:40] in #ubuntu+1 two days ago ? [20:40] fermulator, perhaps you should update your forum post ;) [20:40] (no, this is my first time asking about this) [20:40] fta: asac: micahg: chrisccoulson: maybe we should split TB and FF PPAs? [20:40] i'll definitely update it now [20:40] BUGabundo: there are plans for a TB stable PPA [20:40] lots of ppl want TB ppa and not FF daily [20:41] splitting the PPAs would be useful, yes. also a TB stable would be even more useful. [20:41] BUGabundo: also possible plans for an apt-pinning/sources tool for firefox/tb [20:41] what I would love to see [20:41] BUGabundo: used to be the opposite (people wanting daily ff but stable tb) [20:42] right [20:42] that's what I said [20:42] well no [20:42] but you get what I mean [20:42] ppl always want what they can have [20:44] yes, stable TB is more important because all the plugins/addons take a long time to catch up. [20:45] PS: Updated my thread; [20:45] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9150188#post9150188 [20:45] thanks all for the assistance -- sorry for wasting your time === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [21:36] chrisccoulson: when did you want to have the meeting [21:50] why bug 565309 doesn't get its retrace after 3d+?? [21:50] Launchpad bug 565309 in chromium-browser "chromium-browser crashed with SIGSEGV in malloc(), when downloading files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565309 [21:51] fta: not flagged for retrace [21:52] fta: no core dump [21:52] oh === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [22:24] micahg - i probably won't get a chance to have a meeting tonight, i'm going to get an early night tonight [22:26] * ccheney hopes he isn't getting sick, my son is and i'm feeling a bit off this afternoon :( [22:27] yeah, i don't feel too great atm, hence the need for an early night ;) [22:27] i've got quite a headache atm [22:28] can someone confirm FF 3.6 daily ppa lost the ability to change tabs with ALT+NUM ? [22:28] micahg - the symlink fix doesn't work on upgrade btw :( [22:28] i forgot, there is an issue with dpkg [22:29] it doesn't replace folders with symlinks on upgrade [22:29] i think the only way to do it is to remove the folder from a maintainer script before unpacking [22:29] * micahg was feeling out of it yesterday [22:29] chrisccoulson: is that in prerm? [22:30] micahg - it would have to be in the preinst script, as that will run from the new version [22:31] the prerm script that runs on upgrade will be the old one [22:31] that sucks, but i've seen this issue before [22:31] chrisccoulson: ok [22:32] chrisccoulson: I'm glad you caught it now [22:32] chrisccoulson: I don't like breaking stuff :) [22:32] chrisccoulson: I'll work on a fix tonight [22:32] chrisccoulson: can I use * expansion in the preinst script? [22:33] yeah, that should be fine [22:33] chrisccoulson: k [22:33] * micahg is almost getting the hang of symlinks [22:33] * micahg should write a wiki entry for dealing w/symlinks [22:36] micahg - see bug 303578 for a similar issue (the bug only affects upgraders rather than new installs, which would be the same for thunderbird too) [22:36] Launchpad bug 303578 in ubuntu-docs "System->About Ubuntu homepage has glitchy "Thank you" line" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303578 [22:36] that was fixed differently though, by checking the folder in the postinst [22:37] and then removing it if it wasn't a symlink and creating the link from the script [22:37] but i probably would have just removed the folder in the preinst on upgrade and have dpkg create the link [22:37] either way is probably fine though [22:38] chrisccoulson: I like your solution better [22:40] micahg - the only issue with my indea though is that it would also delete any files not owned by thunderbird (if there were any) [22:40] eg, if another package put them there or the user did [22:41] whereas doing it with rmdir from the postinst is safe, as it will only replace the dir with a symlink if the folder is empty [22:42] chrisccoulson: k, so, should we go with the safer choice since we're close to release? [22:46] micahg - yeah, i'd go with the rmdir then ln from the postinst [22:46] basically, something like this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37985347/ubuntu-docs_8.10.3.debdiff [22:47] chrisccoulson: k [23:39] fta: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/19/the-only-four-chords-need_n_543025.html AWESOME