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| grantbow | I hope I can get a response to https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2010-April/000903.html so I can send a followup with a solution ASAP. | 11:56 |
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| grantbow | fyi, something is wrong on www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown when I view one of the banners | 12:01 |
| thorwil | grantbow: the reason been given for not offering a non-js solution via ubuntu.com is that there's very intense caching going on, especially during release time | 12:01 |
| grantbow | so this means other peole have to host servers just to get the image on a wiki.ubuntu.com web page? | 12:02 |
| grantbow | s/web/wiki/ | 12:02 |
| thorwil | grantbow: well, it does mean it has to happen via a different server, yes | 12:03 |
| thorwil | grantbow: recently i wondered if google app engine could be a simple and very cheap solution for that | 12:03 |
| thorwil | lunch, bbl | 12:03 |
| grantbow | I am not an expert at the canonical infrastructure for ubuntu.com | 12:03 |
| grantbow | kk | 12:03 |
| grantbow | I would really appreciate any other responses. | 12:05 |
| grantbow | it's 4 AM here so if I don't respond immediately I will as soon as I can. | 12:07 |
| grantbow | for the LTS I really want to promote with all the tools I can | 12:14 |
| grantbow | thorwil: one of the people in the California Team does some work with app engine and we discussed it in #ubuntu-california yesterday | 12:23 |
| grantbow | dragon aka aaditya, I'll ask him about it | 12:23 |
| grantbow | thorwil: app-engine is one possible solution. I just wrote an app that does it. I'll email the list. | 12:40 |
| thorwil | grantbow: cool. generally newz2000 is the man to speak with here, but of course he's not present 24/7 | 12:47 |
| grantbow | nobody can be - and I didn't write the code yet for making it automated | 12:48 |
| grantbow | new python code mailed to the list | 13:19 |
| grantbow | that code has at least one bug | 13:32 |
| grantbow | yes! deployed at http://countdown-lucid.appsport.com - I will check in the code to a launchpad project in bzr | 13:52 |
| grantbow | appspot.com | 13:52 |
| grantbow | https://launchpad.net/countdown-lucid is deployed as http://countdown-lucid.appspot.com - let me know what you want to do. | 14:14 |
| * grantbow emails list | 14:14 | |
| cjohnston | newz2000`: ping me whenever you are around | 14:25 |
| grantbow | /2 | 14:52 |
| === newz2000` is now known as newz2000 | ||
| cjohnston | newz2000: when you get around bug 567184 | 15:09 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 567184 in ubuntu-website ""Orange" Lucid Countdown Banner not showing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/567184 | 15:09 |
| newz2000 | thanks cjohnston, looking now | 15:10 |
| newz2000 | cjohnston: ok, all tidied. | 15:13 |
| cjohnston | ;-) | 15:14 |
| Kangarooo | hello anyone here? somtimes ppl who are on channel are not talking untill some interesting topic comes to them | 20:24 |
| knome | we're all actually somewhere else, but don't tell anybody. | 20:27 |
| Kangarooo | ok i promise. can ubuntu wiki and maybe other ubuntu related pages made that if theres a #chanelname then its made a clickable link as irc:///chanelname ? | 20:29 |
| knome | it's a wiki, feel free to edit it. | 20:30 |
| Kangarooo | that would be good if that is auto. maybe even in css somehow its possible to add. so it wont be needed to manually change that to all pages | 20:31 |
| knome | there won't be an automated system for that. | 20:31 |
| knome | css doesn't modify markup either. | 20:31 |
| Kangarooo | that would be easyr. why not that be made? about css i somewhere saw that dynamic code can be put in there but ok maybe in index can be added line that makes #name to clickable | 20:33 |
| knome | that would be js. css only modifies how a page looks, not how it works. | 20:34 |
| knome | what comes to js, i don't think we want any more of that, especially as we can do the thing manually, if *really* needed. | 20:34 |
| ikonia | not all clients support the irc:// transport, so its not wise | 20:36 |
| knome | that as well, but also the js would be an addition to the page load times | 20:36 |
| knome | and i don't think i want the wiki pages be any slower than they are now.. :| | 20:36 |
| Kangarooo | ikonia: i found only pidgin in ubuntu doesnt work irc:// and its an 2y old ticked and pidgin really slowly developing but i hope i will get fixed. even code can be looked up in xchat how there is made solution to open irc:// | 20:39 |
| Kangarooo | *it will get fixed | 20:39 |
| knome | Kangarooo, that's not related. we're not automating the irc://-protocol links | 20:39 |
| knome | (somebody might want to write something else with # than an irc channel name, and we definitely would not want that linked. | 20:40 |
| Kangarooo | hmmm ok maybe then a script can be made to remake #chanel name to add irc:/// or thats too serverconsuming? to run onlt once? | 20:40 |
| Kangarooo | *only once. | 20:40 |
| knome | that would hit the same problem - words with # and not irc channels. | 20:41 |
| Kangarooo | knome: ubuntu not automating? | 20:41 |
| knome | if you think the pages need irc:// links, feel free to start modifying them. find the often hit pages first, then the change can happen gradually. | 20:43 |
| Kangarooo | knome: yes good point. then maybe in wiki setting can be added some symbol to make contained text to clickable. like [username] and for irc forexample //#//ubuntu//#// | 20:43 |
| knome | way too complex. | 20:43 |
| Kangarooo | knome: for ir chanel page its easy but also each team page has #chanelname | 20:44 |
| Kangarooo | ok | 20:44 |
| Kangarooo | *for irc ubuntu chanel page | 20:44 |
| Kangarooo | thx | 20:44 |
| knome | no problem | 20:44 |
| ikonia | ever thought about the fact that it's not implmented for a reason | 20:45 |
| ikonia | eg: ubuntu's been going a long time and has a lot of clever people working on it, if it was a good idea to enable irc:// on webpages, do you think they would have done it by now | 20:46 |
| ikonia | and those links are bad, eg: for me if I click on them, it will open xchat, rather than irssi, there are many reasons not to enable it | 20:46 |
| Kangarooo | ikonia: webbrowser first ask with what programm user want to open this external link. try clicking one of this example. http://www.mirc.co.uk/mirclink.html is it really not asking what programm u want it to open? | 20:48 |
| ikonia | Kangarooo: no they don't | 20:49 |
| Kangarooo | ikonia: click that irc:///mIRC couse if works then it opens only channel on network u are | 20:49 |
| ikonia | Kangarooo: I've just tested it, it's not controlled by the webbrowser | 20:49 |
| Kangarooo | what browser u use? | 20:49 |
| ikonia | doesn't matter | 20:49 |
| Kangarooo | FF asks me | 20:49 |
| ikonia | maybe you don't have a default client setup | 20:49 |
| ikonia | maybe I do, which is why it doesn't ask me | 20:50 |
| ikonia | bottom line is, people don't need that level of laziness | 20:50 |
| Kangarooo | i have many browsers installed as im testing differences in opensource browsers tell me name ill check and add a ticket | 20:50 |
| ikonia | add a ticket ??? I don't need a ticket logging, or I'd log one myself | 20:50 |
| Kangarooo | no ill add a ticked as bug report for that browser | 20:50 |
| ikonia | I don't need a ticket for it, if I did I can raise one myself | 20:51 |
| Kangarooo | i wont give u a ticked. ok i will make bug report not ticket. but so i dont go checking all browsers just say name of witch one opens for u irc link automatically in xchat | 20:52 |
| ikonia | I don't need you to check anything for me, thank you though. | 20:54 |
| Kangarooo | knome: maybe interwiki entry [[irc:#chanel]] --> irc ? | 21:40 |
| ikonia | it's not a good idea | 21:55 |
| Kangarooo | maybe IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/$1 | 21:56 |
| ikonia | no | 21:56 |
| Kangarooo | wait maybe i misunderstood. why its not | 21:56 |
| ikonia | it's not needed | 21:56 |
| ikonia | because it's not a good idea | 21:56 |
| ikonia | putting irc links in the wiki is not a good idea | 21:56 |
| ikonia | we discused it above | 21:57 |
| Kangarooo | i have no proof and i havent checked all browser jet. FF asks witch programm u want to open it with | 21:57 |
| ikonia | it's not about proof | 21:57 |
| ikonia | it's not needed | 21:58 |
| Kangarooo | its easyr to open link | 21:58 |
| ikonia | it's not needed | 21:58 |
| Kangarooo | ok if u cant say reason then dont say that | 21:59 |
| ikonia | I can say a reason - we discussed it above | 21:59 |
| ikonia | I have no desire to discuss it again | 21:59 |
| Kangarooo | (10:46:34 PM) ikonia: and those links are bad, eg: for me if I click on them, it will open xchat, rather than irssi, there are many reasons not to enable it | 21:59 |
| Kangarooo | this u mean? | 22:00 |
| ikonia | that was one example | 22:00 |
| Kangarooo | theres no proof | 22:00 |
| ikonia | you, yourself said pidgin doesn't work | 22:00 |
| ikonia | but the client is only one reason | 22:00 |
| Kangarooo | doesnt open irc uri now yes | 22:00 |
| ikonia | knome: offered some solid points too | 22:01 |
| Kangarooo | xchat opens | 22:01 |
| ikonia | if it was a good idea - it would have been done by now | 22:01 |
| ikonia | I don't care if xchat opens | 22:01 |
| ikonia | people can join a channel on their own | 22:01 |
| Kangarooo | pidgin will with time it also fixed | 22:01 |
| ikonia | ok - put it this way, if you chance anything, I'll undo the changes | 22:01 |
| Kangarooo | maybe noone had a solution. here i just even digged in this moinmoin and found solution interwiki entry [[irc:#chanel]] --> irc | 22:02 |
| ikonia | there is no problem so you don't need a solution | 22:03 |
| Kangarooo | problem is i need to copy and paste #chanelname | 22:03 |
| ikonia | you can just type it | 22:03 |
| Kangarooo | that also takes time | 22:03 |
| ikonia | then the problem is you are lazy | 22:03 |
| ikonia | book mark the channel | 22:03 |
| Kangarooo | everybodys lazy | 22:03 |
| ikonia | so you don't need to type it | 22:04 |
| ikonia | no - everybody is not lazy, or this would have been done before | 22:04 |
| ikonia | the fact that it's not been done after all this time shows that no-one wants it and it is more problems than it resolved your one issue of you being too lazy | 22:04 |
| Kangarooo | :) | 22:04 |
| ikonia | I'm not laughing | 22:04 |
| Kangarooo | ok lets make a poll | 22:05 |
| ikonia | lets not | 22:05 |
| ikonia | lets just leave it as it is, in a working wiki | 22:05 |
| Kangarooo | how can then u say that no-one wants it? | 22:05 |
| ikonia | because it's not been done yet | 22:05 |
| Kangarooo | was this ever discussed? | 22:05 |
| ikonia | if people wanted it / it was a good idea, it would have been enabled | 22:06 |
| ikonia | I don't know, but the ammount of people that maintain the wiki and how clever they are, I'd have confidence they are aware and chose not to do it | 22:06 |
| ikonia | Kangarooo: look - just type the channel name, get a grip and type the name | 22:06 |
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