[00:06] Nobody on the X crash when configuring multiple monitors? [00:12] question to the community [00:13] Using kubuntu 9.04 and enabled desktop effects ... however Ctrl+F8 through Ctrl+F10 stopped working ... any ideas where to look for clues or how to fix it? [00:14] already restarted kde and the OS a couple of times for different reasons with no change on the desktop effects [00:16] can't say myself [00:17] no to mention I don't use kwin anyhow as window manager.... sooo my key-bindings differ much :) === fernando is now known as Guest45934 === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ [01:59] I'm very new to KDE, where can I get info on my computer (processor, RAM, ...) ? [02:05] phdp: open konsole, and type: lshw [02:05] phdp: or install kinfocenter [02:05] thanks ! === phantom is now known as Guest63206 === Guest63206 is now known as not_guilty [03:04] kkk [03:04] ls [03:04] ls [03:04] wujs: what are you doing? [03:34] kdevelop rc3 debs anywhere in the ppa? [03:46] hello, I have an ati radeon X800, and under System Settings->Desktop Effects it says "Compositing not supported". Could someone please help me to identify the problem? I can not find a compatability list saying this card doesn't support compositing, so I think there is a system error somewhere [03:50] Anyone have any idea where I should even start? [03:57] does no one have any idea? [04:11] I'm on Kubuntu 9.10, and just recently Youtube told me to "go upgrade" my flash player. Is there a solution for this for amd64? [04:23] Hey i am running this in my virtual box :) [04:59] is there a iTunes like media player for linux? [05:21] ola a todos [05:21] preciso de amigos [05:21] !pt | marta__ [05:21] marta__: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. [05:21] falam portugues ao menos? [05:22] i dont like brazilian [05:24] marta__: You can ask here in english ... there is also the Portuguese specific channel of #ubuntu-pt [05:37] I have aproblem with Kopete.. I am able to connect to my yahoo account using Kopete.. can see all my frds added there, can receive mesages from them , but cant send any messages,... I mean I send messages ,.. but they dont receive it... [05:40] How much modification is required to integrate a QT application into Kubuntu? [05:48] I have aproblem with Kopete.. I am able to connect to my yahoo account using Kopete.. can see all my frds added there, can receive mesages from them , but cant send any messages,... I mean I send messages ,.. but they dont receive it... === zac is now known as Guest48656 === Guest48656 is now known as BuddhaBomb [05:51] what in the world [05:55] I have aproblem with Kopete.. I am able to connect to my yahoo account using Kopete.. can see all my frds added there, can receive mesages from them , but cant send any messages,... I mean I send messages ,.. but they dont receive it... [06:12] I have aproblem with Kopete.. I am able to connect to my yahoo account using Kopete.. can see all my frds added there, can receive mesages from them , but cant send any messages,... I mean I send messages ,.. but they dont receive it... === saint_ is now known as Guest4325 [06:21] I have aproblem with Kopete.. I am able to connect to my yahoo account using Kopete.. can see all my frds added there, can receive mesages from them , but cant send any messages,... I mean I send messages ,.. but they dont receive it... === michel is now known as MikHel [06:56] vivek_: still there? [06:57] iconmefisto:yes buddy how are you.. iam stuck up with something new ths time [06:57] the kopete problem? [06:57] iconmefisto:yeah [06:58] I don't have a solution :( just a question. do your friends all use windows yahoo clients? [06:59] iconmefisto:almost all.. at least the women do.. lol and that does matter [06:59] vivek_: so some are using kopete like you? [06:59] iconmefisto: not some.. only one and that is me :-) [07:01] want to try sending me a message, kopete to kopete? just to see what happens? [07:01] pm me and we can add each other [07:03] ok [07:06] iconmefisto:please wait a second adding [07:12] hi people, I'm not using kubuntu, but I am (for the moment) using another kde centric distro and I need help. As it seems the devels for this distro have disappeared. When I plugin a usb drive, it no longer appears in kwikdisk (or fstab). We are using hotplug (I know, old) it was working fine up until 5 hrs ago. Does anyone have any idea what, if any middle app is used to modify the fstab? [07:14] Borg^Queen: Perhaps try #kde channel for generalized assistance [07:15] genii: been there [07:16] waited for 5 hrs, [07:16] Borg^Queen: Alternately find a distribution which also uses kwikdisk (like mepis) [07:16] genii: looking into it now, but doesn't resolve the problem at hand. [07:17] kubuntu has kwikdisk as well, just need to add it [07:17] are you happy with it, kubuntu? === ybit3 is now known as ybit [07:18] Borg^Queen: Yes, it works well for me. [07:19] how do you like kde4 ? [07:19] I'm guessing it used kde4 now [07:19] KDE4.4.2 is great [07:19] lol thank you vivek_ [07:20] Borg^Queen: I'm getting used to it. I had 3.5 for a long time. [07:20] you are welcome Borg^Queen: [07:20] I was a heavy debian using for 4 years but it became too obsolete [07:20] genii: currently on 3.5.x [07:21] What I want is a kde centric distro with a real community, and a collection of rude people [07:21] I know it sounds silly but I don't want to send a noobie into a channel where they will be abused. [07:22] I recycle computers and donate them to children, the elder and home bound, these people are very sensitive [07:23] Borg^Queen: If these computers are somewhat lower specs you may want to consider a lighter desktop than kde4 (such as xfce or so) [07:23] P3s and P4s [07:24] Decent ram, they run the distro I'm using now with full KDE 3.5.x, no difficulties [07:24] for really old stuff, I use puppy [07:24] Yes, thats a good choice [07:24] Its got bite! [07:25] We grow offtopic from Kubuntu support .. :) Luckily it's slow here at this time. [07:25] anyway I'll see what I can do about fixing my problem on my own. I've emailed bero, the founder, about it. [07:25] aye, I don't believe a channel should be so topic ridged but aye. [07:26] Borg^Queen: Which distribution are you currently on? [07:26] Ark Linux, I've been using it for years, but our lead dev has disappeared and they rest of us are just learning. [07:27] Its a great distro but outdated now and only bero knows the deeps workings [07:28] another reason I'm considering abandoning it as well [07:29] but I want a kde centric distro [07:30] Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu has a very active community [07:30] aye, but are they friendly, as I said, the people I deal with are always wounded by society. [07:31] Borg^Queen: We're here being friendly to you, are we not? [07:31] Oh terribly mean [07:31] lol [07:32] I'll let it go for night, it late. Tomorrow I'll dl and test kubuntu as well as do research on a replacement. Either way, thank you for your time. [07:33] Borg^Queen: You're very welcome, have a good night [07:33] gn to all [07:33] gn genii [07:33] gn vivek_ [07:55] hi there! any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter correct su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]??? [07:58] hi there! any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter correct su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - pam_unix(polkit:auth): conversation failed authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]??? [09:21] Sup guys? [09:27] Nobody here today :/ [09:29] most just idle until someone asks something binary_ [09:30] Well then how about I ask something? [09:30] Ati Drivers on kubuntu wtf? [09:30] why so hard? [09:31] what's hard about it? - I don't do ati [09:32] there's a link to a howto for setting it up binary_ [09:32] !ati [09:32] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [09:33] Hah no I got it installed. I was just being sarcastic. I actuall had to uninstall the default drviers and install the proprietary ones to enable compositing. [09:33] actually* [09:33] ahhh :] [10:25] i am new to kubuntu. How do i install firefox [10:25] and recieve the updates [10:29] how do install firefox [10:32] levar: iirc, there's even a menu icon that automagically does that. [10:32] under Applications → Internet, if I'm not mistaken [10:33] its not for me [10:47] levar: open konsole. then type: sudo apt-get install firefox [10:51] also i would like to install kynaptic. [10:51] which i do not have [11:08] Hi [11:09] Clicking on links in thunderbrid doesn't make a link open in firefox. Default webbrowser is set to firefox. But it wont work anyway. [12:44] ? [12:44] ! [12:45] !? [12:56] Hi guys. All of the sudden, my wireless just stopped working - it was working just fine uptill now. Everything KNetworkManager does is trying to connect and constantly asking [12:56] for a passphrase (which is 100% correct). I did an upgrade earlier, but it wasn't working even before that. Any hints on what I should do? I tried to reinstall as it was advised [12:56] in one of the posts in the ubutnu forum, but no luck. [12:56] edi_99: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:56] Sorry about the flooding. [13:28] hhhhhhi [13:28] hhhi [14:07] hello there, I've just installed a fresh exaile on a fresh lucid kubuntu and I've almost got it working, save for the fact that there is no sound. I have attempted all the combinations of Normal/Unified and OSS/Alsa/Automatic/etc at the sound settings, but there is still no audio. My Amarok, system sound and Mplayer all have the sound working just fine. Looking at the shell output, there is no errors when trying to play [14:07] a songso my question, do someone know perhaps what is wrong? [14:16] hey folks === Guest24555 is now known as robinr [14:28] hi. i just pluged a new 3d vga card. my original one was not working after my pc got a voltage shock. the new one is 64mb but is giving a yellowish view. why is that so? === caldera is now known as JulienBu [14:46] hi i need some help plz. my termianl is closing every time after edditing profiles [14:46] remove --purge and reinstall has no effect [14:46] how can i edit the profile settings of the Terminal (konsole) without starting it in kde (there it crash's) [14:46] sry 4 bad english [14:47] deutsch ginge auch ^ [14:47] edit ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole/Shell.profile i think [14:47] thx i try [14:48] yooo [14:49] maco: thx works fine now ;) [14:49] yay [14:52] so....thx 4 help i've to go ;) see u soon [14:52] @all === bigbrovar_ is now known as bigbrovar [15:01] puta [16:19] hallo [16:23] !ask | jorgino [16:23] jorgino: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [16:45] i tried to switch from windows 7 to newest kubuntu...... [16:46] no internet = hard to switch =\ [16:46] anyway to make my wireless conenct on kubuntu? is scans and finds the network, says connecting, then getting address but then disconnects [16:49] !wireless | ibelouis [16:49] ibelouis: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [16:49] thx, ill give that a try [16:50] I know nothing about that topic, I higly prefer having cables around but I hope the documentation can help you. Otherwise just hang around, I know there are a few people here who can probably help you. [16:54] How big a task am I looking at for modifying a Qt app to work with Kubuntu? It's an issue with Canonical's Qt patching... [16:57] well i have 2 linksys usb sticks [16:57] one works, one doesnt [16:57] but the one that works wont conenct [16:57] i even tried disabling wireless security on router and i get same problems when trying to connect [17:00] ibelouis: use the gnome network manager [17:01] i didnt see that, i used the one that popped up on taskbar [17:01] it works for me better and has more options [17:01] ibelouis: how far into connecting does it get? [17:01] dont think it was gnome though [17:01] says connecting, aqquring address, disconencts [17:02] u can use the gnome one on kubuntu, no problem ;) [17:02] pops up asking for password numerous times too [17:02] even on unsecure it pops up asking if theres a password [17:02] its buggy ^^ [17:03] how do i go about installing the gnome one on kde? [17:03] offline install obviously [17:03] never worked for me on umts, and i was annoying so set up any little detail, so i use the gnome one, which has a great setup [17:04] bette to get the pc via wire online, offline is little difficult cause of depends. [17:04] if i had a 100ft cable layin around it might reach [17:04] but thats not an option =\ [17:05] ^^ [17:06] look what u need and download it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/jaunty/network-manager-gnome [17:07] those will work on 10.0.2 kubuntu? [17:07] dont know [17:07] search [17:08] wouldnt it be easier downlaoding the whole gnome install disc and installing from that? [17:09] dont think there are the packages on [17:09] dont know, sorry [17:09] offline install sucks, get a cafe, drink a coffee and use there wlan :) [17:09] i will do too in few min [17:10] carrying a double wide tower with 32 inch monitor into a cafe...... [17:10] wouldnt be to much fun [17:11] and if i could use wlan, i wouldnt need to lol [17:11] ^^ right [17:11] thought about setting up tethering on my iphone again and trying it [17:11] didnt kno if kubuntu would pick it up though [17:12] or u insatll first ubuntu and then the kde enviorment [17:13] i am also not very comfortable with wlan problems, always used a wire :) [17:13] i did to, til i caught ex cheating and moved back with mom til i finish school [17:14] its all wireless here though since modem/router at far end of house [17:15] think ill reformat that drive for ubuntu and make sure wireless works and if so ill add on the kde [17:15] thx for the suggestions [17:16] but before complete reinstall, check with livemode if it really works ;) === canonical is now known as ummm === ummm is now known as canonical === binary0011 is now known as Virus_X === Virus_X is now known as binary0011 [17:41] hi all [17:41] hello, i have a program which is running, i would now like to stop it and shutdown my computer; is it possible to get back the computation to the point where it stopped and continue afterwards? [17:41] i have a problem with mysserver 5 [17:43] Mistery: please explain the problem, if anyone knows he'll probably help you but it might take some time [17:43] otswim: much of it depends on if the program is designed to do so [17:44] rork: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) [17:45] chuckf: i was hoping that there would be a general solution [17:45] Mistery: what excatly are you trying to do [17:45] that would save the stack somehow and restore it [17:45] chuckf: mysql -u root -p [17:46] Mistery: I'm not a mysql person, sorry [17:53] Mistery: wrong password most likely === lucian is now known as bahamas [18:07] my tty's don't start on boot. if I do sudo initctl list | grep tty it lists all the tty's as "stop/waiting" [18:08] iconmefisto_: I had the same problem [18:08] I changed the configuration files for upstart [18:08] txwikinger: which ones? tty?.conf ? [18:08] yes [18:09] I think 2-6 are not started anymore automatically [18:09] you need to add the other runlevels to it [18:10] txwikinger: my tty1.conf http://pastebin.com/L4M1B4sb [18:11] iconmefisto_: that looks like mine [18:13] txwikinger: tty[2-6].conf however only have RUNLEVEL=[23] === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [18:13] yeah.. add runlevel 4 and 5 to them [18:14] So they should come up even if rc never finishes which is what tty1 is waiting for [18:14] anyhow.. you can always start them with "sudo start tty2" etc [18:15] txwikinger: yeah, figured out how to start them, but if X doesn't start for some reason, I can't do that [18:15] well.. 2-6 don't wait for anything [18:16] so if you add the missing runlevels they should start in any event === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [18:19] txwikinger: don't quite understand the explanation, but what would have caused this? should it be RUNLEVEL=[2345] in all of them, or is this a workaround for some other upstart problem? [18:20] iconmefisto_: "start on runlevel [2345] " starts on any event [18:20] there is nothing it waits for [18:20] tty1 waits first for rc to finish (that is the old init.d/ rc?.d System-V startup [18:20] ok, I'm going to reboot and test this. thanks txwikinger === Hazamonzo is now known as Hazamonz === Hazamonz is now known as Hazamonzo [18:22] I swear kubuntu irc support is better than ubuntu [18:22] :) [18:23] are kde users smarter? or used to dealing with more problems? [18:23] Hello everybody [18:23] Is there some kind of help page for missing sound support in kubuntu lucid lynx beta (Flash/Skype) [18:23] iconmefisto_: obviously the former, since we use kde ;-) [18:24] maco: did my question destroy your point? ^^ [18:25] ok, rebooting now, back soon [18:25] oo [18:25] geronimo_: do you ahve other programs running that use sound at the same time? flash likes ot hog the device [18:26] maco: yes I have that, I use 64 bit btw [18:26] maco: installed kubuntu-restricted-extras like right away [18:26] try closing other programs that use sound, closing your browser, then starting the browser back up. then flash might have sound while other stuff wont [18:26] maco: you don't consider this a solution, do you? [18:26] personally, using pulseaudio seems to make things easier for me, but i know some people think it breaks worse on kde [18:27] geronimo_, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras ? [18:27] BluesKaj: geronimo_ just said they did [18:27] o0k, sorry geronimo_ [18:27] ^^ [18:27] geronimo_: no its not a solution to the fact that adobe writes crappy code :) [18:27] was distracted [18:27] maco: what about skype then? [18:28] maco: getting the feeling, that it's some kind of KDE problem, worked in ubuntu, all aside [18:28] maco: like flash, exaile, skype [18:28] geronimo_: for me, using flash 10 and the pulse-aware skype with pulseaudio and setting pulse to be default device in systemsettings is what works best, because pulse will handle mixing instead of letting flash hog the device [18:28] geronimo_: ubuntu uses pulseaudio. kubuntu doesn't. [18:28] maco: it uses jack, right? [18:28] no [18:28] kubuntu doesnt use either [18:29] okay [18:29] ok, geronimo_ , some ppl think pulseaudio is a problem on their setups and some solve it by removing it. [18:29] ubuntu studio, i think, uses jack. jack is for professional audio. pulse is for desktop audio. [18:29] ah okay, thanks maco === simon_ is now known as Guest55112 [18:29] maco: is it a lot of work to get it to work with kubuntu? [18:29] BluesKaj: yeah i think they just need to learn how to configure it [18:29] but you can use jack and pulseaudio in kubuntu [18:30] geronimo_: no, you go to systemsettings, click on multimedia, and set pulseaudio as the default. i'd reboot afterward to make sure it all starts in the right order [18:30] iconmefisto: yeah, just neither is default [18:30] looks like I have jack installed [18:31] geronimo_: some audio apps might have it as a dependency [18:31] maco, I just remove it , my audio setup is simple stereo so alsa by itself works fine [18:32] geronimo_: you might want to try to get help from crimsun. i think he knows how to make jack play nice [18:33] usually jack is started/stopped manually before starting an audio app that uses it for low latency audio [18:33] okay [18:33] geronimo_: do you have jackd running? [18:34] doesn't look like it [18:34] I'll install it [18:35] geronimo_: qjackctl is a gui to start/stop jack, and configure it === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:36] hi guys [18:36] (girls) [18:36] txwikinger: btw, still no tty's [18:37] iconmefisto: that's odd [18:37] maybe something with your upstart is off [18:37] question: how can I remove the kde-desktop logo in top right hand corner of the kde menu ? It's all messed up since lucid when you use custom themes [18:37] geronimo_, good luck with jack , I hope iconmefisto sticks around to help you with it [18:38] that bad? :D [18:38] maybe it's beyond my abilities , geronimo_ , I hear itworks for some ppl [18:38] geronimo_: jack is only useful for programs that can use it. eg, audio recording/sequencing work [18:40] iconmefisto: but "sudo start tty2" works? [18:40] iconmefisto: what release are you on? [18:41] txwikinger: yes it works. on lucid with this problem [18:42] question: how can I remove the kde-desktop logo in the top right hand corner of the kde menu ? It's all messed up since lucid when you use custom themes [18:43] vince: not an answer really, but you could use lancelot menu instead [18:44] indeed. [18:44] (not an answer :p) [18:45] iconmefisto: look at this http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging [18:45] maybe you can get some more info with the debugging [18:48] hi folks, on 9.10, launching kmail or kontact gives a segmentation fault with the following dumped to the command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419949/. I'd greatly appreciate any help to get these programs working. [18:51] hi [18:51] have you tried to delete the config files ? [18:52] vince: which ones? [18:52] hola [18:53] home\user\.kde\apps\ [18:54] just the kmail folder though [18:54] rename it, KDE will create new config files [18:55] home\user\.kde\share\apps\ [18:55] vince: I did an `aptitude purge kmail; aptitude install kmail`. and it still doesn't work [18:56] vince: one sec have to log out and back in [18:56] alguien sabe hablar español ¿? [18:56] un poco [18:56] haha [18:57] necesito entrar por Undernet y no se como hacerlo. . . [18:57] !es [18:57] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [18:57] no me deja nada mas que el servidor de ubuntu. [18:58] "/server " [18:58] nope not working [18:58] escribo tal cual ¿? [18:59] no [18:59] garikoitz: /join #ubuntu-es [18:59] "/server " [18:59] no fuctiona [18:59] !es [18:59] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [18:59] ubottu: I was about to post it :) [18:59] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:00] pwnt [19:00] garikoitz: es possible que haya un #kubuntu-es [19:00] y alli en ese canal que hago ¿? [19:00] garikoitz: lo mismo que estás haciendo acá done el lenguaje oficial es inglés [19:00] estoy en el canal Ubuntu-es [19:00] *donde [19:01] gracias [19:01] muy amable [19:03] vince: back [19:03] yep [19:03] so ? [19:03] for some reason doing a aptitude purge kmail doesn't get rid of the config files like I thought it would [19:03] so have you tried my method ? [19:04] usually i go manually, it's the only way to know for sure [19:05] vince: goood god! it worked!!! I probably bashed my head on this for 6 hours since yesterday. I got all side tracked into trying to fiddle with the akonadi server [19:05] your method worked [19:06] usually when something goes wrong with an app, deleting the config files manually is the best option [19:06] glad to hear it worked [19:06] hi [19:07] hi [19:07] yes many many thanks. Now I'm off to understand what aptitude purge actually does... [19:07] /agree with vince i do this all the times [19:08] I think it deletes all the packages you downloaded and that are not used anymore [19:14] vince: got it - purge deletes the system wide config but never touches the user home directories [19:16] jhambo: cheers I didn't know that [19:26] one question: I'm using ubuntu 9.10 with kde 4.3. I want to install kde 4.4. I read that I need to use Kubuntu PPA Backports (4.4) [19:27] doing: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [19:27] my question is: it'll upgrade to kde 4.4 or to the current backport version? [19:34] hello??? [19:36] ary: I've never done it but try apt-cache search kde4 to check [19:37] I did [19:37] I just followed to instructions on kde.org [19:37] nope sorry, kubuntu.org [19:38] you might have to reinstall plasma-desktop though [19:38] or delete your current kde config files and let kde 4.4 recreate them [19:39] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.2 [19:39] ary: [19:40] vince: okey... but my question is: Does the backports has only kde 4.4 or will it change for new version every time [19:40] for example: kde4.4 then kde 4.5 then 4.6 ...etc [19:40] I think you will have the option to upgrade everytime thee is a new version yeah [19:40] via kpackagekit [19:40] i started out with kde 4.4 [19:41] and I had the option to upgrade to 4.4.1 [19:41] then 4.4.2 [19:41] kpackagekit will let you know :) [19:42] ahh okey. But backports doesn't work only with 4.4.x.? Maybe later it will change for 4.5 for example [19:42] That I don't know [19:42] It's not gonna change to 4.5 anytime soon though [19:45] ary: packages are tested before they go into backport [19:46] backport does not contain experimental stuff.. for that there are other ppas [19:47] txwikinger: and what happend if today backports have 4.4 and tomorrow they have 4.5? My kde 4.4 will change when I try to upgrade it. [19:47] maybe it's a problem for me :( [19:47] Well... as long as you do not set upgrades to be done automatically, you have to manually do it [19:48] txwikinger: okey... yes [19:48] btw... you can always look with "apt-cache policy " what the different versions are that are reachable for you [19:49] yes... [19:49] and when you change the repo/ppa list and do an "sudo apt-get update" it will change [19:49] So you can take out the backports after your upgrade if you do not want to upgrade again [19:50] txwikinger: I'll install a minimal ubuntu, then I'll append repo/ppa, and then I'll install kde 4.4 [19:50] he === jesse is now known as Guest29505 [19:50] Not sure why you install ubuntu if you want kde, but otherwise, sure [19:51] or does minimal ubuntu come without a desktop? [19:51] anybody have Any idea how to edit the installation screen on Ubuntu [19:51] yep no desktop [19:51] minimal ubuntu come without desktop [19:52] ary.. you have to install kubuntu-desktop with the added repo/ppa [19:53] hay guys [19:53] i want to install mail server on ubuntu can anybody help..? [19:53] txwikinger: yes but I want a minimal kde === Guest29505 is now known as hellmakrz [19:54]