[08:53] <BUGabundo_remote> rufus fetch the paper :D
[12:44] <cdavis> top10
[16:04] <mrcurrington> Can feature design complaints be reported as bugs?
[16:07] <BUGabundo_remote> yes
[16:08] <zeroseven0183> And if you can include a screenshot, better
[16:09] <zeroseven0183> {if necessary}
[18:23] <mdlueck> I was asked to switch to this channel... Need to file a Lucid installer bug. What log files should I grab before I reboot the VM session?
[18:24] <mdlueck> >	Today's daily (20100419.1) is still broken trying to use xfs on / and /home, ext4 on /boot. Gets an error trying to format the / partition.
[18:25] <arand> mdlueck: "ubuntu-bug ubiquity" should grab a fair bit of the installer stuff...
[18:26] <mdlueck> How can I get a term window open since I booted directly to the installer, bypassing LiveCD mode? Ctrl+Alt+F1 gives errors that gtk is not available when I try to run GUI programs from there.
[18:27] <mdlueck> Is there some hot-key to get a shell open from inside the installer?
[18:30] <mrand> mdlueck: does ctrl-alt-D show the desktop?
[18:30] <charlie-tca> mdlueck: files in /var/log/installer  and  /var/log/dmesg.log
[18:30] <arand> mdlueck: hmm, ubuntu-bug doesn't need a gui, can report the bug via elinks or lynxs if necessary, or if you can go to the link given from another computer, I think...
[18:31] <mdlueck> mrand: ctrl-alt-D does nothing... I moved the installer window out of the way, no icons appear if that should have done so
[18:32] <mdlueck> charlie-tca: I can go to ctrl-alt-F1 and grab those couple of files for sure, should that be enough?
[18:32] <charlie-tca> As long as they are there, that is normally enough. look in /var/log/installer and make sure something is there, though
[18:33] <mdlueck> arand: I tried running "ubiquity --debug" which complained about gtk not being available
[18:33] <charlie-tca>  /var/log/installer should have a partman log
[18:34] <charlie-tca> That usually works for these issues
[18:34] <arand> mdlueck: Well that's expected, since ubiquity is a gui app
[18:34] <yofel_> mdlueck: do you get a run dialog if you press alt+f2?
[18:35] <mdlueck> charlie-tca: there are files in /var/log/installer thought no mention of error trying to format the / partition xfs
[18:35] <mdlueck> checking /var/log/messages
[18:36] <mdlueck> I do not see errors via tail of /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[18:36] <mdlueck> pertaining to trying to format the root partition xfs
[18:37] <mdlueck> yofel_: alt+f2 does not bring anything up
[18:38] <mdlueck> charlie-tca: not partman log in /var/log/installer
[18:39] <charlie-tca> Is there one in /var/log ?
[18:39] <mdlueck> charlie-tca: debug dm version (is the complete file list in that dir) checking /var/log
[18:40] <mdlueck> I have one in /var/log   checking for an error message
[18:40] <yofel> mdlueck: if you can store files somewhere, then you can run 'apport-cli --save <file> ubiquity'
[18:41] <yofel> and file the report later from a working live session
[18:41] <charlie-tca> Going to need /var/log/syslog too then
[18:41] <mdlueck> yofel: networking seems to be up, so can scp out of this vm
[18:44] <yofel> apport seems to collect syslog, partman, casper.log, oem-config.log, /var/log/installer/dm and /var/log/installer/debug
[18:45] <pascal80> bdmurray: can you extend my membership for ubuntu-bugcontrol?
[18:47] <mdlueck> yofel_: I tried 'apport-cli --save apport-cli.log ubiquity'  Lots of output to the console, no file in the current directory
[18:47] <yofel> sudo maybe?
[18:47] <mdlueck> Seems to be doing the same thing
[18:48] <yofel> hm, works here though
[18:48] <pascal80> jcastro: hello, can you extend my membership for ubuntu-bugcontrol?
[18:48] <pascal80> pedro_: hello, can you extend my membership for ubuntu-bugcontrol?
[18:49] <mdlueck> yofel_: the man page does not seem to have the --save switch listed
[18:49] <pedro_> pascal80, hello, what's your lp id?
[18:50] <yofel> mdlueck: o.O? the manpage shows '       apport-cli [ --save file ] symptom | pid | package | program path | .apport/.crash file' as one usage info
[18:50] <pascal80> pedro_: hi, it's pascal-devuyst
[18:51] <mdlueck> yofel_: I am running 9.04 as my host OS, maybe the syntax has changed since then
[18:51] <yofel> d
[18:51] <bdmurray> pedro_: are you on it?
[18:51] <pedro_> bdmurray, yeah
[18:51] <yofel> mdlueck: well, you were supposed to run that on the lucid system (tty is fine)
[18:52] <yofel> mdlueck: while  *running* lucid
[18:52] <pedro_> pascal80, all done, thanks for your work
[18:52] <mdlueck> I did, I just did not assume that the man page is available via the lucid live CD, so I went to my host OS to look up the man page
[18:53] <yofel> ah, apport has changed a lot since 9.04, we didn't have --save back then I think
[18:53] <mdlueck> OK
[18:53] <yofel> mdlueck: you can even run it without --save, you can select save to file later, will be stored in /tmp then
[18:54] <mdlueck> So, networking IS working, origionl Q then, what should I grab to help debug why / can not be formatted xfs?
[18:54] <mdlueck> OK, will try yofel
[18:54] <pascal80> pedro_: thanks a lot!
[18:57] <trijntje> Indicator applet stops showing transmission in Lucid after a while. How can I find out if this is a indicator-applet or Transmission bug?
[18:59] <mdlueck> I tried to zip up some logs... I get some I/O errors against the ISO image running in the VirtualBox VM session. That is really strange.
[19:06] <yofel> mdlueck: did you check the md5sum of the iso?
[19:07] <mdlueck> yofel: zsync checked the md5. I rebooted, erased the virtual HDD, and now zip works properly, so zipping up some logs.
[19:07] <yofel> ok
[19:11] <mdlueck> yofel: not apport-cli reports no pending reports, yet the / partition failed to format
[19:11] <mdlueck> yofel: I zipped up all of /var/log subtree
[19:11] <yofel> mdlueck: does formatting it by hand with mkfs.xfs work?
[19:11] <mdlueck> checking...
[19:13] <mdlueck> Aaahh, mkfs.xfs command not found!
[19:14] <yofel> meaning xfsprogs should be missing
[19:14] <yofel> maybe ask in #ubuntu-installer if they're aware of it
[19:14] <mdlueck> Will do, thanks!
[19:14] <mdlueck> Or shall I return to +1 since this is lucid testing?
[19:19] <yofel> not sure, this should be mentioned in the iso testing tracker at least
[19:20] <mdlueck> yofel: Where is that so I may do so.
[19:20] <yofel> mdlueck: xfsprogs is not part of the default system, but it should be included on the iso
[19:20] <yofel> mdlueck: ask in #ubuntu-testing would be best, today is rc testing so someone should be there
[19:21] <mdlueck> yofel: Used to "automagically" be selected if a partition used xfs
[19:21] <mdlueck> OK, thanks, off to -testing
[19:22] <yofel> mdlueck: yes, but for that it needs to be included on the iso, check with 'dpkg -l xfs*' if it's installed there
[19:23] <mdlueck> yofel: that just comes back with x11-xfs-utils
[19:24] <yofel> here's what it gives on my pc (no xfs): http://pastebin.com/iqkbMCfu
[19:25] <mdlueck> yofel: Like I said I got the impression that the installer adds xfsprogs if a partition is formatted xfs, but still the installer needs to have it available for use
[19:27] <mdlueck> yofel: So shall I open the bug against "ubiquity (Ubuntu)" and explain that xfsprogs seems to be missing from the live/install CD?
[19:28] <yofel> I'm not sure how the isos get created, but if you get no answer in -testing for a while please do that yes
[19:29] <mdlueck> yofel: OK, will do. Thank you SO much!! :-)
[20:24] <jwhitlark>  I saw something about testers needed for the x.org bug.  If you need 64-bit testers, please give me a link to more info and I'll help out.
[20:25] <micahg> jwhitlark: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/GEMLeak
[20:25] <jwhitlark> tnx
[20:32] <genii> micahg: Are testers needed for nv driver?
[20:32] <micahg> genii: idk details
[20:32] <micahg> genii: you can ask in #ubuntu-x
[20:33] <genii> OK, thanks