[00:00] <michazoet> \o/
[00:00] <_Lux> Good Morning czajkowski
[00:00] <juliux>  The assocation is the supporting institute for the German Ubuntu Communities. Since 2006 we are doing a lot of conference appearances and release parties. Starting 2007 we have our yearly Ubuntu conference called Ubucon
[00:00] <juliux>  At the moment we are busy to improve the integration of all parts of the team especially to integrate the Ubuntu developer. But this is a long time goal;)
[00:00] <juliux> And sorry for the late wiki pages changes.
[00:00] <czajkowski> I think juliux is rather prepared :(
[00:00] <czajkowski> :)
[00:00] <juliux> ;)
[00:00] <juliux> czajkowski: ;)
[00:00]  * _Lux and Julius prepared the text ;-)
[00:00] <paultag> juliux, it's OK, I'm actually on the -de mailing list, so it's no problem :)
[00:00] <czajkowski> so tell us how you organise folks into doing things
[00:00] <juliux> btw i think that was the fast reapproval ever;) only one week preparation
[00:00] <juliux> paultag: cool
[00:01] <_Lux> czajkowski: What exactly do you want to know?
[00:01] <_Lux> Unfortunately we are a very splitted team, working on different aspects of Communiy
[00:02] <_Lux> One of our main tasks is to integrate all back into one big team
[00:02] <czajkowski> yes how do you orgnise that
[00:02] <juliux> in the past we used mailinglists for that and face to face discussions
[00:02] <_Lux> We have a central mailing list for LoCo-Activities which we use to coordinate
[00:02] <_Lux> Last week we started an IRC round table
[00:03] <v4vortex> yes, and it was a good start!
[00:03] <Jiraiya> indeed
[00:03] <itnet7> _Lux: How many people attend your Ubucon's?
[00:04] <_Lux> itnet7: 150-200 (correct juliux?)
[00:04] <itnet7> Very nice turnouts!
[00:04] <_Lux> itnet7: They are coming from all over Germany and Switzerland and Austria
[00:04] <huats> and may be France next time :)
[00:05] <_Lux> We are in Germany not so big in size but big in terms of people
[00:05] <paultag> juliux, _Lux, how have the translation efforts from within the LoCo been going for German?
[00:05] <czajkowski> yes I've seen your jams they are rather impressive
[00:05] <juliux> itnet7: in 2008 we had 200 in 2009 300
[00:05] <itnet7> That is really great!
[00:06] <juliux> paultag: the translation team is more working for upstream translations
[00:06] <czajkowski> Have you faced any issues??
[00:06] <juliux> paultag: most of them are translation for gnome and kde
[00:06] <juliux> czajkowski: yes;) splitting a locoteam into to parts kubuntu and ubuntu
[00:06] <paultag> juliux, Outstanding. I caught a glimpse of that about a year ago when I had a small change for Evolution :)
[00:06] <\Lux> paultag: We have a very active translation team whcih has an onw forum in our officical forum
[00:06] <paultag> \Lux, would you mind posting those links?
[00:07] <czajkowski> juliux: how did ye go about solving that issue ?
[00:07] <\Lux> mompls
[00:07] <juliux> czajkowski: but that happens allreay in 2005/2006
[00:07] <juliux> czajkowski: the solutions  that we have to locoteams so we are only covering *buntu but not kubutnu
[00:07] <\Lux> paultag: Here it is: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/forum/lokalisierung/
[00:07] <paultag> thank you \Lux :)
[00:07] <juliux> czajkowski: they are doing there own thing but there are some contact points at fairs or at the ubucon
[00:07] <czajkowski> ok
[00:07] <\Lux> paultag: welcome
[00:07] <czajkowski> sound sgood
[00:08] <czajkowski> are there any other comments you'd like to make to the council
[00:08] <juliux> paultag: the cfp is still open;)
[00:08] <czajkowski> itnet7: leogg huats paultag any other comments
[00:08] <huats> juliux, please correct the team contact, since it was still smurf on the wiki page (may be you have already changed that)
[00:08] <paultag> I'm all set, thank you czajkowski :)
[00:08] <juliux> huats: _Lux and i will take that over
[00:08] <paultag> juliux, my German is that of a three year old ;)
[00:08] <huats> otherwise please  continue that way !
[00:08] <itnet7> Not really, I am very impressed with their team!
[00:08] <paultag> juliux, but I'd love to watch :)
[00:08] <\Lux> paultag: like my English
[00:09] <paultag> \Lux, :)
[00:09] <czajkowski> [vote] Please vote on the German LoCo Re approval
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[00:09] <itnet7> +1
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[00:09] <leogg> +1
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[00:09] <czajkowski> +1
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[00:09] <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5
[00:09] <czajkowski> whoooo
[00:09] <itnet7> Very cool!!!
[00:09] <paultag> Really outstanding work \Lux, juliux. Keep up the great work
[00:09] <czajkowski> very nice
[00:09] <czajkowski> well done
[00:09] <juliux> \o/
[00:09] <juliux> thank you very much
[00:09] <huats> congrats german team !
[00:09] <\Lux> thanks a lot \o/
[00:09] <itnet7> \o/ juliux and team!
[00:09] <czajkowski> 9 LoCo teams re approved and 2 new teams approved tonight!
[00:09] <Jiraiya> thank you guys :)
[00:10] <juliux> sleep well!
[00:10] <v4vortex> yes, thanks a lot
[00:10] <czajkowski> [endmeeting]
[00:10] <czajkowski> #endmeeting
[00:10] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 18:10.
[00:10] <czajkowski> grrrrrr
[00:10] <czajkowski> bot!
[00:10] <v4vortex> yeah, and sleep well (its 01am here)
[00:10] <v4vortex> :)
[00:10] <leogg> thanks everybody
[00:10] <juliux> cu
[00:10] <Jiraiya> and have a good night, all of you
[00:10] <czajkowski> nn folks
[00:10] <\Lux> Good night, I have to get up at 5:00 hrs
[00:10] <paultag> Thanks everyone, good night / morning :)
[00:11] <paultag> \Lux, Gute nacht, schlaft gut ;)
[00:11] <\Lux> paultag: you too :-))
[14:57] <zul> gday
[14:57] <mjeanson> hi
[14:58] <kirkland> [o]
[14:58] <ttx> ]o[
[14:59] <mathiaz> \u\
[14:59] <Daviey> \o
[14:59] <jmdault> o/
[15:00] <jjohansen> o]
[15:00] <ttx> ok, let's get started !
[15:00] <ttx> #startmeeting
[15:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 09:00. The chair is ttx.
[15:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[15:00] <RoAkSoAx> o/
[15:00] <ttx> Welcome to the Ubuntu Server team meeting !
[15:00] <zul> wheee
[15:00] <ttx> Agenda is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[15:00] <ttx> Scribe is: zul !
[15:01] <ttx> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[15:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[15:01] <ttx> * mathiaz to fix the "server fixed bugs" broken script
[15:01] <smoser> \o
[15:01] <mathiaz> ttx: still on my TODO
[15:02] <ttx> ttx to follow up with ivoks/RoaKSoax on cluster stack state : DONE
[15:02] <ttx> * mathiaz to propose removal of dovecot-postfix on MLs
[15:02] <mathiaz> ttx: that has been done
[15:02] <mathiaz> ScottK: ^^
[15:02] <zul> and the fix has been uploaded
[15:02] <mathiaz> zul: great thanks
[15:02] <ttx> mathiaz: without a strong consensus, I see
[15:03] <mathiaz> ttx: about the fix or the removal?
[15:03] <mathiaz> ttx: I'm fine with the fix
[15:03] <ttx> abouit the removal :)
[15:03] <mathiaz> ttx: as long as the use of dovecot-postfix.conf has been discarded
[15:03] <ttx> mathiaz: does that prove the need for a UDS session on taht subject, to set expectations for the Maverick cycle ?
[15:04] <mathiaz> ttx: not specifically
[15:04] <mathiaz> ttx: there may be a more generic what to do with the mail server though
[15:04] <ttx> mathiaz: yes
[15:04] <ttx> [TOPIC] Lucid release status
[15:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Lucid release status
[15:04] <ttx> So the RC is in the oven, should be released tomorrow
[15:05] <ttx> Today's focus is on ISO testing coverage
[15:05] <ttx> We don't expect a server ISO/images respin, so please test the heck out of them
[15:05]  * kirkland is on it
[15:06] <ttx> Don't forget to register your test results... and mark the tests you started as "started" for coordination
[15:06] <ttx> On the remaining RC bugs side... I assigned most of them to the team, at the very least you should look into them and comment whether they can and should be fixed by release day, or as a post-release SRU
[15:07] <ttx> the watch list is updated at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus
[15:07] <ttx> that's the team main focus for after-RC
[15:08] <ttx> Finally, you have some remaining work items in specs
[15:08] <ttx> See http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-server-ubuntu-10.04.html
[15:08] <ttx> Most of them are about UEC testing/validation so we should be ok, but don't forget those :)
[15:08]  * hggdh kicks evolution and its 1G  resident memory
[15:09] <ttx> Questions on release management, priorities for the next week, etc. ?
[15:09] <zul> nyet
[15:10] <hggdh> pas
[15:10] <ttx> About post-RC fix vs. early SRU: it's mostly the release team decision based on the impact of the proposed patch vs. how impacting is the bug.
[15:10] <ttx> but you should be able to make an educated guess :)
[15:10] <ttx> ok, moving on to:
[15:10] <ttx> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[15:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[15:11] <ttx> hggdh: how is it going in QA land ?
[15:11] <hggdh> life is not as good as I expected ;-)
[15:11] <kirkland> ttx: hggdh has been doing a heck of a job testing UEC
[15:11] <kirkland> ttx: shaking out some hard issue
[15:11] <hggdh> we are still going along, though. All of you have been extremely helpful on my bugs
[15:12] <hggdh> er. not *mine*, I mean
[15:12] <ttx> yes, we still have a stream of issues in UEC stresstesting and cloud images boot
[15:12] <hggdh> yes. Right now it seems the more we poke, the more bugs fall
[15:12] <ttx> kirkland, smoser: I kept you out of the other server bugs so that you can concentrate on those
[15:13] <kirkland> hggdh: that's our job ;-)
[15:13] <ttx> hggdh: you seem to have the Gift !
[15:13] <hggdh> mathiaz scripts have helped a lot, BTW
[15:13] <kirkland> ttx: thanks, much appreciated, we're actively working those
[15:14] <hggdh> ttx: right now, this is pretty much what I can tell you... sorry
[15:14] <ttx> hggdh: the regression build rig seems to have triggered a few recent messages
[15:14] <ttx> hggdh: do you plan to have a maverick spec to cover what we should do now with this ?
[15:14] <hggdh> hum. I have not looked at my emails today, but I do not remember any from yesterday (except atlas, but this is not aq worry)
[15:15] <ttx> hggdh: they were from this morning.
[15:15] <hggdh> ttx: you mean the regression rig? Yes, I do have some ideas. We should keep it, and expand it
[15:15] <ttx> hggdh: planning a UDS session / blueprint on the subject ?
[15:16] <kirkland> hggdh: ttx: i suggest some "barriers", that would allow a topo to deploy with one button
[15:16] <kirkland> hggdh: ttx: rather than triggering each system individually
[15:16] <hggdh> I am going to put it in the QA pool of ideas, and someone will decide on it
[15:16] <kirkland> hggdh: ttx: possibly as simple as an early command that sleeps/waits until its dependendent systems are installed
[15:17] <ttx> kirkland: I was talking about the build regression rig, the thing that rebuilds a set of package daily
[15:17] <hggdh> kirkland: yeah, something like that. I would also like to have at least one more rig
[15:17] <ttx> and mails out tons of errors :)
[15:17] <ttx> ah, plenty of interesting discussions coming up in Brussels.. volcano smoke allowing.
[15:18] <hggdh> heh
[15:18] <ttx> Other questions for QA team ?
[15:18] <hggdh> everybody says smoke is bad to our health
[15:18] <hggdh> no, we are good
[15:19] <ttx> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen)
[15:19] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen)
[15:19] <ttx> hggdh: thanks !
[15:19] <ttx> jjohansen: o/
[15:19] <hggdh> ttx: just an aside -- we should talk, when possible, on the autonmated server tests
[15:19] <jjohansen> hey
[15:19] <jjohansen> so not much has changed on the kernel side since last week
[15:20] <ttx> jjohansen: which is good :)
[15:20] <smoser> no issues found in ec2 testing related to kernel
[15:20] <jjohansen> a little more debug info shaken out, and a couple more bugs showing up
[15:20] <smoser> other than possibly bug 567334
[15:21] <jjohansen> right
[15:21] <ttx> I don'ty have any new burning issue myself... but it's sometimes difficult to be aware of existing kernel bugs affecting server
[15:21] <smoser> jjohansen, i wonder if you've proposed a blueprint or some mechanism to get official time to trial paravirt-ops kernels on ec2
[15:22] <jjohansen> smoser: not yet
[15:22] <jjohansen> it will come I still need to poke that beast a little bit this week
[15:22] <smoser> i know how difficult or unlikely getting that to work is, but *I* would really like it, and I know it'd make your job much easier if you didn't have thousands of lines of patches
[15:23] <jjohansen> hehe, well that is motivation to get it working :)
[15:23] <zul> what no more hulking patch?
[15:24] <ttx> ok, any other questions/concerns to transmit to the kernel team ?
[15:24] <kirkland> jjohansen: no progress on that oops?
[15:24] <kirkland> jjohansen: that we're seeing in some UEC guests?
[15:25] <kirkland> jjohansen: seems to be only on certain hardware
[15:25] <jjohansen> kirkland: no :(
[15:25] <kirkland> jjohansen: alrighty, thanks
[15:25] <kirkland> jjohansen: i suspect this will need an SRU eventually
[15:25] <ttx> [TOPIC] Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review  (mathiaz)
[15:25] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review  (mathiaz)
[15:25] <jjohansen> though that isn't the only bug we have seen that is hardware specifi
[15:25] <kirkland> jjohansen: right
[15:25] <ttx> mathiaz: o/
[15:26] <mathiaz> a few bugs from karmic:
[15:26] <mathiaz> bug 156636
[15:26] <mathiaz> bug 494141
[15:27] <mathiaz> Both should be decline IMO
[15:27] <ttx> not fixed in dev release
[15:27] <ttx> so not candidates for SRU
[15:28] <mathiaz> that's all as far as I can say
[15:28] <mathiaz> given that the bugs-fixed-lately script is broken
[15:28] <ttx> ok, that was fast !
[15:29] <mathiaz> anything worth fixing in SRU from last week?
[15:29]  * kirkland wagers that the SRU portion of this meeting is about to get a lot more interesting in about ~2 weeks :-)
[15:29] <mathiaz> kirkland: right
[15:29] <mathiaz> kirkland: I'll add the lucid nominations list once lucid is released
[15:29]  * ttx wagers that there should be an interesting discussion about SRU handling at UDS in ~3 weeks :-)
[15:29] <kirkland> ttx: oh?  changes on the way?
[15:29] <RoAkSoAx>  /join #ubuntu-ha
[15:29] <mathiaz> which means that the first (few?) meetings may see more SRU activity
[15:30] <ttx> kirkland: well, we should at least discuss if our current process fits the bill for Lucid
[15:30] <kirkland> ttx: ah
[15:30] <kirkland> mathiaz: i think so ...  there's a number of things we'll want to fix for Lucid that didn't make release
[15:30] <kirkland> mathiaz: and probably a number of new issues that come up as people upgrade
[15:31] <ttx> i'm not sure it gives us the tracking information we'll need, so far
[15:31] <mathiaz> Are then any plans to put dedicated ressource on lucid SRU?
[15:31] <mathiaz> the same way as we did for Hardy?
[15:31] <ttx> that's a good question and I don't know the answer.
[15:32] <ttx> [ACTION] ttx to confirm with jib lucid SRU resource allocation
[15:32] <MootBot> ACTION received:  ttx to confirm with jib lucid SRU resource allocation
[15:32] <zul> i think we should because most users probably wont upgrade until .1
[15:32] <zul> imho
[15:32] <ttx> mathiaz: could you explain what happened in hardy, for reference ?
[15:33] <mathiaz> ttx: IIRC some of the desktop team members spent time on hardy SRUs.
[15:33] <mathiaz> ttx: until enf of June IIRC
[15:33] <mathiaz> ttx: ask pitti or seb128
[15:33] <ttx> zul: yes, we need a way to track and coordinate the amount of work we'll all do in that area... and possibly someone dedicated to tracking it
[15:33] <zul> ttx: I wa working on SRU for the hardy point release
[15:33] <kirkland> ttx: yeah, zul worked on hardy.1, and i worked on hardy.2
[15:34] <ttx> noted, thanks !
[15:34] <ttx> [TOPIC] Maverick call for blueprints
[15:34] <MootBot> New Topic:  Maverick call for blueprints
[15:34] <ttx> So UDS is nearing and volcano smoke seems to clear out
[15:35] <zul> volcano smoke is overblown
[15:35] <ttx> If you want to suggest a UDS session topic, feel free to file an Ubuntu blueprint !
[15:35] <ttx> name is server-maverick-*
[15:35] <ttx> and approver must be set to "Jos Boumans"
[15:35] <ttx> at tha point only one was filed:
[15:35] <ttx> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-wbemcim-providers
[15:36] <ttx> I also set up a page to braindump and track the propsoed sessions:
[15:36] <ttx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickIdeaPool
[15:36] <ttx> I'll add a lot more sessions from the team internal braindump in the next hours/days
[15:37] <ttx> so no need for the Canonical server team to spend time on editing that page
[15:37] <ttx> but everyone else is more than welcome to do so !
[15:38] <ttx> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
[15:38] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Discussion
[15:38] <ttx> anything/anyone ?
[15:39] <padhu> What about lucid?
[15:39] <ttx> padhu: what what about lucid ?
[15:39] <ttx> padhu: it goes out next week
[15:40] <ttx> hopefully :)
[15:40] <padhu> In time?
[15:40] <ttx> team: is sleeping getting any better ?
[15:40] <ttx> padhu: at this point, yes...
[15:40] <mathiaz> ttx: still on track
[15:41] <ttx> padhu: but being late is, by essence, unpredictable.
[15:41] <padhu> Happy to hear it. I am waiting eagerly
[15:41] <ttx> padhu: I'd advise you to downlaod and test the RC which goes out tomorrow ! That will make the release all the more enjoyable to you.
[15:42] <ttx> the sooner we know wbout bugs, the sooner we can fix them.
[15:42] <zul> ttx:yep
[15:42] <ttx> ... and by definition, no significant change is expected between RC and final.
[15:42] <padhu> oh
[15:43] <padhu> i will try
[15:43] <ttx> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time
[15:43] <MootBot> New Topic:  Announce next meeting date and time
[15:43] <ttx> Same place, same time, next week, in the middle of the release frenzy
[15:43] <ttx> i'll be in London next week, hopefully I'll be able to spend time on the meeting
[15:44] <ttx> Thanks everyone !
[15:44] <ttx> #endmeeting
[15:44] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 09:44.
[15:47] <padhu> Bye....
[16:00] <barry> hi everybody!  meeting time...
[16:00] <barry> #startmeeting
[16:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is barry.
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[16:00] <barry> [TOPIC] agenda
[16:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  agenda
[16:00] <barry> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Meetings/2010/0421
[16:00] <barry> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Meetings/2010/0421
[16:01] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Meetings/2010/0421
[16:01] <ev> hello
[16:01] <james_w> hi
[16:01] <padhu> Hi
[16:01] <mvo> hi
[16:02]  * slangasek waves
[16:02] <cjwatson> hi
[16:02] <doko_> hi
[16:02] <barry> [AGENDA]
[16:02] <barry> [TOPIC] agenda
[16:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  agenda
[16:03] <barry> lool, cjwatson, slangasek, ev, doko, james_w, Keybuk, barry, mvo, tremolux
[16:03] <barry> paste fail
[16:03] <mvo> tremolux is on vacation
[16:03] <barry> [TOPIC] lightning round
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  lightning round
[16:03] <barry> order: cjwatson, slangasek, ev, doko, james_w, Keybuk, barry, mvo
[16:04] <cjwatson> done: various last-minute installer bug fixes (esp. 543838, 546964, 558382, 566965); branding fixes per design team; generally trying to keep on top of late-breaking bugs
[16:04] <cjwatson> todo: head-scratching over part of bug 567345, which is looking like a busybox shell bug
[16:04] <cjwatson> --
[16:06] <slangasek> done: some spit'n'polish on plymouth and mountall; todo: fix the last few big ugly bugs in plymouth for release; and oh yeah, that RC thing is this week
[16:06] <slangasek> --
[16:06] <ev> in progress: Trying to figure out why wubi is setting automatic-ubiquity on the kernel command line for the cd boot helper option.  Trying to get to the bottom of some broken migration-assistant and debconf interaction that's in turn breaking hw-detect (bug 234835, bug 536673).  CD testing && bug fixing.
[16:06] <ev> todo: Get to the bottom of bug 567243.  Figure out why ubiquity is still cutting off text for some users/languages (bug 560114).  Fix usb-creator breaking on non-FAT partitions (bug 566390).
[16:06] <ev> blocked: Need a release team review on bug 566552.
[16:06] <ev> --
[16:07] <doko> done:
[16:07] <doko>  * openjdk-6 1.8 release, lucid upload
[16:07] <doko>  * more sun-java6 updates (twice, first with the wrong debian sources)
[16:07] <doko>  * eglibc memcpy/strcmp fixes, rebuilds
[16:07] <doko>  * maverick toolchain preparations
[16:07] <doko>  * llvm regression fixes
[16:07] <doko>  * fix some build failures
[16:07] <doko> todo:
[16:07] <doko>  * file bug reports for test rebuild failures
[16:07] <doko>  * need help with that ipv6 networking bug
[16:07] <doko> --
[16:07] <james_w> working on a bunch of fixes and merges for both Ubuntu and bzr-builddeb etc. Will continue the same.
[16:07] <james_w> --
[16:09] <james_w> probably a little early for the stranded Keybuk?
[16:09] <barry> ;)
[16:09] <barry> bug reporting script (from cjwatson) - blocked on lazr.restfulclient; bug
[16:09] <barry> 552777 (cj2.0); bug 485944 (python-virtualenv debian 1.4.5 sync); pep 3147
[16:09] <barry> (landed!); python packaging/udd testing
[16:09] <barry> --
[16:09] <barry>  
[16:09] <cjwatson> pep 3147 landed> great!
[16:10] <james_w> woo!
[16:10] <slangasek> james_w: I have no sympathy for him :)
[16:10] <mvo> fixes in software-center for final release, fixes in update-manager, debugging upgrade issues,  Support-timeframe: prepare final merge into LP production BLOCKED on exact seed definition that we support for 3y, currently working on OOo pre-depends hell
[16:10] <mvo> --
[16:10] <barry> \o/
[16:10] <james_w> slangasek: you're stranded in a different way :-)
[16:11] <barry> [TOPIC]  * Outstanding actions from last meeting
[16:11] <MootBot> New Topic:   * Outstanding actions from last meeting
[16:11] <barry> none that i'm aware of
[16:11] <james_w> barry: lazr.restfulclient> we need an upgrade in the distro for that?
[16:11] <barry> james_w: we do
[16:11] <barry> james_w: i don't have the bug in front of me, but it's a problem with path name lengths
[16:11] <barry> in the cache
[16:12] <james_w> yeah, I remember
[16:12] <barry> james_w: i was going to work on that today
[16:12] <barry> [TOPIC]  * Outstanding feature freeze exceptions
[16:12] <MootBot> New Topic:   * Outstanding feature freeze exceptions
[16:13] <barry> slangasek: anything to say about this one?
[16:13] <james_w> barry: it's in Debian fwiw
[16:13] <barry> james_w: yep, i think it's a fairly simple sync
[16:13] <slangasek> outstanding feature freeze exceptions> remember that we'll be face-to-face in three weeks time in Belgium before you ask for a feature freeze exception the week of RC :)
[16:14] <james_w> so we should ask for them in three weeks?
[16:14] <slangasek> yes, that's fine
[16:14] <barry> volcanos permitting of course :)
[16:15] <cjwatson> French trains permitting in my case I think
[16:15] <cjwatson> (hey, let's take out all the plausible modes of travel at once!)
[16:15] <barry> :)
[16:15] <barry> [TOPIC]  * Farming out tasks that aren't being handled
[16:15] <MootBot> New Topic:   * Farming out tasks that aren't being handled
[16:15] <barry> milestoned bugs:
[16:15] <barry> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=21447
[16:16] <barry> targetted bugs:
[16:16] <barry> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bug
[16:16] <slangasek> if anyone is blocked on the release team for feedback regarding critical fixes (ev, just followed up to the bug you mentioned above), please ping directly; I can't guarantee that the bug queue will get flushed in time
[16:16] <slangasek> mvo: bug #522225 - defer, since you have your hands full with OOo?
[16:16] <mvo> slangasek: sorry, yes
[16:16] <ev> slangasek: already replied to your reply :)
[16:16] <mvo> slangasek: OOo and LP maintenance time
[16:16] <cjwatson> is that the right milestone list?  I wasn't expecting 0
[16:16] <ev> but noted
[16:16] <slangasek> no, it's not
[16:17] <slangasek> 21439
[16:17] <cjwatson> I think it should be =21439
[16:17] <doko> slangasek: I'll ping on visualvm (fix ftbfs, and installability) bug #560138
[16:17] <barry> cjwatson: ah, yes the template doesn't get updated automatically ;)
[16:17] <cjwatson> oh, I promised to do a last double-check of oem-config/debconf and defer
[16:17] <cjwatson> 530027
[16:18] <cjwatson> I'll do that today
[16:18] <slangasek> cjwatson: thanks
[16:18] <cjwatson> bug 540790?
[16:18] <mvo> -updates
[16:18] <cjwatson> and bug 552560?
[16:18] <mvo> for that we need to prod LP again, I can do that
[16:19] <cjwatson> mvo: 540790 milestone bumped
[16:19] <mvo> thanks
[16:19] <cjwatson> I don't see anything else for our team there
[16:20] <slangasek> 553745... not sure that one's going to get fixed, I think Keybuk had a better handle on it than I do
[16:21] <slangasek> 559761 should get done, that one's well understood
[16:21] <barry> slangasek: do you know what's up with the mountall hangs?  i'm still seeing comments on that one, but can no longer reproduce it here
[16:21] <slangasek> barry: "the mountall hangs" is a bit vague, do you have a bug #?
[16:21] <barry> ah, yeah, sec...
[16:22] <cjwatson> 559761 is fix committed already?
[16:22] <slangasek> cjwatson: it's committed in mountall, but the code it's calling in plymouth is buggy and sometimes causes deadlocks again
[16:22] <slangasek> reading when we should be writing, instead of writing when we should be reading like last time
[16:22] <cjwatson> oh, yes, I see you backed it out
[16:23] <barry> slangasek: it's bug 527666 which is fix committed, but still taking in lots of comments
[16:24] <slangasek> oh; there are some issues with mountall not getting notified properly of LVs, which is causing trouble for people
[16:24] <slangasek> I can't reproduce that at all here, unfortunately
[16:24] <slangasek> may be a race condition of some kind
[16:25] <barry> yep.  i've been unable to reproduce it since the fix committed
[16:25] <barry> anything else on milestoned or triaged bugs?
[16:25] <slangasek> oh, bug #566308 has a useful description
[16:26] <slangasek> maybe someone found our bug
[16:26] <slangasek> nothing else from me
[16:27] <barry> slangasek: thanks
[16:27] <barry> [TOPIC] sponsorship queue
[16:27] <MootBot> New Topic:  sponsorship queue
[16:27] <barry> http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/
[16:27] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/
[16:27] <doko> cjwatson: could you build busybox with a non-multiarch enabled glibc and recheck with it?
[16:28] <barry> anything to say about sponsorship, or should we just move on?
[16:28] <cjwatson> doko: quickest way to do that?
[16:28] <cjwatson> sponsorship at this point would only be appropriate for RC bugs anyway
[16:29] <barry> [TOPIC] Any business from activity reports
[16:29] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any business from activity reports
[16:29] <doko> cjwatson: rebuild using https://edge.launchpad.net/~doko/+archive/ppa. should I provide a busybox build? which arch?
[16:29] <cjwatson> doko: i386 if you could ...
[16:29] <doko> ok, will do
[16:29] <cjwatson> thanks
[16:30] <cjwatson> you think it might be due to one of these fancy SSE memcpy optimisations or something?
[16:30] <mvo> I think I forgot (or was too busy) to send my report, I will do that later today
[16:30] <doko> just want to exclude that
[16:30] <barry> mvo: no, it's my fault.  i forgot i was chair today so only asked for them ~1h ago  ;)
[16:31] <barry> [TOPIC] good news
[16:31] <MootBot> New Topic:  good news
[16:31] <mvo> openoffice finished building on my machine
[16:31] <barry> so, it's official, i've joined foundations (official start is may 1, but i'm not moving back to lp)
[16:31] <cjwatson> doko: ok; I could also try with different kvm cpu emulations if you can suggest ones that would be useful to narrow things down
[16:32] <cjwatson> barry: great news
[16:32] <ev> barry: woo! Great to have you on the team!
[16:32] <oubiwann> barry: woo! welcome to platform!
[16:32] <barry> thanks guys!
[16:32] <slangasek> after the next mountall/plymouth uploads, users will be reliably notified of problems mounting filesystems at boot \o/
[16:32] <slangasek> barry: congrats!
[16:32] <mvo> welcome barry!
[16:32] <james_w> welcome barry!
[16:32] <oubiwann> slangasek: nice...
[16:33] <ev> we'll find out in a little under an hour and a half who the summer of code students are.  There are some foundations projects on the list.
[16:34] <oubiwann> ev: any idea if there's going to be an intersection of SoC projects and UDS sessions?
[16:34] <barry> ev: do we know if any of the gsoc's will be at uds?
[16:34] <james_w> I don't think there will be many SoC students at UDS
[16:34] <ev> oubiwann: I don't know offhand if any potential students are attending
[16:35] <mdeslaur> slangasek: sweet!
[16:35]  * doko is otp
[16:36] <barry> any other good news?
[16:36] <slangasek> doko: bug #560138> you didn't subscribe ubuntu-release, *and* you set it confirmed yourself, so this wasn't even in the queue for review... :)  does this need an FFe, or is it a bugfix release?
[16:36] <barry> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:36] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB
[16:37] <ev> the volcano seems to have subsided enough to not ruin the release sprint
[16:37] <ev> I think
[16:38] <cjwatson> maaaaybe
[16:38] <cjwatson> assuming katla doesn't go off in which case we're all screwed
[16:38]  * barry books his QEII tickets
[16:38] <cjwatson> amusingly I watched the "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" remake last night ...
[16:39]  * oubiwann laughs
[16:39] <barry> if there's no other business...
[16:40] <barry> #endmeeting
[16:40] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:40.
[16:40] <barry> thanks everybody!
[16:40] <barry> oh woops, we need a chair for next week
[16:40]  * james_w volunteers
[16:40] <barry> james_w: thanks!
[16:41] <doko> slangasek: well, I did confirm the uninstallability, and the ftbfs :) just got the sources today from sun. it's a bug fix release, building with netbeans 6.8.  it has new version for two of its plugins
[16:41] <barry> have a good day everybody, maybe see you in 2.5 weeks
[16:41] <ev> thanks!
[16:41] <slangasek> thanks!
[16:41] <mvo> thanks
[16:41] <persia> Whoever owns the agenda for this meeting: would you mind updating the sponsoring URL to http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html ?
[16:41] <ev> see you next week (possibly) / at UDS (possibly)
[16:42] <slangasek> doko: confirm> but an FFe request is a process bug, if you set it confirmed yourself then it's not in the release team's pending queue
[16:42] <slangasek> doko: anyway - is this something that needs an FFe, or is it just a bugfix release?
[16:42] <barry> persia: will do
[16:42] <persia> barry: Thanks.
[16:43] <cjwatson> persia: I've updated the template, minus the "index.html"
[16:43] <barry> cjwatson: thanks
[16:43]  * barry saw your lock :)
[16:43] <cjwatson> yeah, sorry, acquired the lock before you said
[16:43] <persia> I don't expect we'll change the implementation soon, but that's even more flexible :)
[16:44] <doko> slangasek: bug fix, it was broken by the netbeans-6.8 upload. will allow us to remove some old netbeans libs as well
[16:45] <slangasek> doko: if it's bugfix-only, you don't need an FFe, just upload
[16:48] <doko> slangasek: it's uploaded
[16:50] <slangasek> doko: ah, ok - grabbing now
[17:59]  * marjo waves
[17:59]  * schwuk waves back
[18:00]  * bdmurray flaps arms
[18:00] <marjo> #startmeeting QA Team
[18:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 12:00. The chair is marjo.
[18:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[18:00] <marjo> [TOPIC] Agenda
[18:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  Agenda
[18:00] <marjo> # SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie)
[18:00] <marjo> # Bug Day status -- pvillavi
[18:00] <marjo> # ISO RC testing -- ara
[18:01] <marjo> [TOPIC] SRU testing -- sbeattie
[18:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  SRU testing -- sbeattie
[18:01] <sbeattie> Once again, a very quiet week on the SRU front.
[18:01] <sbeattie> SRU Activity report for the past week (since 2010-04-07):
[18:01] <sbeattie> * karmic: 2 new packages in -proposed (boost1.38, kpackagekit)
[18:01] <sbeattie>       and 2 packages pushed to -updates (keepalived, postgresql-8.4)
[18:01] <sbeattie> * jaunty: 1 package pushed to -updates (postgresql-8.3)
[18:01] <sbeattie> * intrepid: no SRU activity
[18:01] <sbeattie> * hardy: 1 package pushed to -updates (postgresql-8.3)
[18:01] <sbeattie> * dapper: 1 packages pushed to -updates (postgresql-8.1)
[18:01] <sbeattie> Thanks to VTWoods, Wolfgang Pietsch, and Sean for testing SRUs this week.
[18:02] <sbeattie> That said, once lucid is released, SRUs will definitely pick up.
[18:02] <marjo> sbeattie: people are busy with ISO testing?
[18:02] <sbeattie> It sure seems that way.
[18:02] <marjo> thx sbeattie
[18:03] <marjo> [TOPIC] Bug Day status -- pvillavi
[18:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Bug Day status -- pvillavi
[18:03] <pedro_> On Thursday 15 we had a bug day based on Software Center, the Community contribution was awesome as always: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100415
[18:03] <pedro_> ~126 bugs were triaged that day, Thanks a lot to our hug days heroes: om26eer, yofel, vish, charlie-tca, jibel, hernejj, kamusin,  etali and malev for their extraordinary work!
[18:04] <pedro_> Tomorrow we're having a bug day for Evince: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100422
[18:04] <pedro_> There's plenty of bugs to be triaged so if you have some time and want to learn a bit more about bug triage join us, we'll be glad to help you to start
[18:05] <pedro_> that's all from here marjo
[18:05] <marjo> thx pedro_
[18:05] <marjo> [TOPIC] ISO RC testing
[18:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  ISO RC testing
[18:05] <marjo> the ISO testing seems to be going well
[18:06] <marjo> anybody can help out with http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested ?
[18:06] <fader_> marjo: I should have some cycles this afternoon to pick up some more
[18:06] <fader_> Got the mythbuntu tests done yesterday :)
[18:06] <marjo> there are a few upgrade paths still not covered, so if you have some time & equipment, please consider
[18:07] <Daviey> fader_: you rock!
[18:07] <marjo> helping out for full coverage!
[18:07] <marjo> fader: thx!
[18:07] <fader_> :D
[18:07] <marjo> fader: i don't remember, can you cover amd64
[18:07] <marjo> ?
[18:07] <fader_> marjo: Yep
[18:07] <fader_> In a VM
[18:08] <marjo> ok, thx; i think bladernr and ameetp can also cover amd64, right?
[18:08] <bladernr> marjo:  aye
[18:08] <marjo> on real HW
[18:08] <ameetp> marjo: yeah
[18:08] <marjo> bladernr, ameetp: can you please consider
[18:08] <marjo> thx; would appreciate it
[18:09] <marjo> according to ara, the optional test cases are also getting covered nicely
[18:09] <marjo> thx to everyone who's helping w/ the testing; this phase is looking very good
[18:09] <marjo> any questions on ISO testing?
[18:10] <marjo> folks: any new topics for today?
[18:11] <davmor2> covering m-a now but also in the middle of hell :)
[18:11] <marjo> davmor2: m-a?
[18:12] <davmor2> Migration-Assistant
[18:12] <marjo> davmor2: thx!
[18:12] <cr3> marjo: I've been trying to get the release team to acknoweldge whether a bug in checkbox was release critical or not, still no luck
[18:12] <marjo> cr3: thx for the update
[18:13] <cr3> sbeattie: ^^^ do you think you could help with that?
[18:13] <sbeattie> cr3: which bug?
[18:14] <cr3> sbeattie: see bug #567568 for my proposal which has a comment detailing the specific problems which might be release critical
[18:15] <cr3> sbeattie: I'm perfectly comfortable releasing this as an SRU, but I just wanted to get acknoweldgement
[18:16] <sbeattie> cr3: okay, I think the issue may have been that it was against the checkbox project, and not the checkbox package in ubuntu.
[18:16] <bdmurray> wouldn't the release team notice the bug better if it was filed against ubuntu had was targeted to Lucid?
[18:16] <sbeattie> but I'm fixing that and will target it to lucid.
[18:17] <cr3> sbeattie: thanks!
[18:17] <sbeattie> cr3: it won't make it for rc as it's on the isos and would require a respin.
[18:19] <marjo> cr3: i can't believe that the release team would consider this a "release critical", specially 8 days from release; SRU here we come
[18:19] <marjo> [TOPIC] Release Status
[18:19] <MootBot> New Topic:  Release Status
[18:20] <marjo> down to the wire, the QA team work items look great
[18:20] <marjo> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-platform-qa.html
[18:20] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-platform-qa.html
[18:20] <marjo> only hggdh & sbeattie have work items left until release
[18:20] <marjo> no pressure!
[18:20] <sbeattie> heh
[18:21] <marjo> thx to everyone for meeting all your commitments, per milestone basis, very nice work!
[18:21] <marjo> folks: any other topics for today?
[18:22] <marjo> if not, i propose we adjourn the meeting
[18:22] <marjo> going once
[18:22] <marjo> going twice
[18:22] <marjo> meeting adjourned
[18:22] <cr3> houray!
[18:22] <marjo> thx everyone! keep testing!
[18:22] <fader_> Thanks all
[18:22] <marjo> #endmeeting
[18:22] <pedro_> thanks
[18:22] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:22.
[20:00]  * stgraber waves
[20:01] <highvoltage> howdy!
[20:01] <highvoltage> gobby document is on gobby.ubuntu.com
[20:01] <stgraber> just going to get some water, will be back in a sec
[20:01] <highvoltage> docname: edubuntu-maverick-brainstorming
[20:01] <highvoltage> we'll start that a bit later so if you still need to install gobby (or get water) you'll have time
[20:02] <stgraber> ;)
[20:02]  * stgraber looks for the old gobby clinet
[20:02] <stgraber> client even
[20:03] <highvoltage> I'll give a technical summary on the last week so long
[20:04] <highvoltage>  * We had to drop translations from the edubuntu-slideshow since it made the experience way too inconsistant
[20:04] <highvoltage> (something we'll specifically remember to add and promote for maverick)
[20:05] <highvoltage>  * Bunch of bug fixes, mostly beating the live ltsp and ltsp installer stuff into shape, it's about ready for release with the last upload I made today
[20:06]  * stgraber is commenting a bit on gobby
[20:06]  * Lns waves to everyone
[20:06] <highvoltage> hey there Lns!
[20:06] <Lns> hi highvoltage =) sorry i'm late..will probably have to leave early too
[20:07] <highvoltage> Lns: no problem, glad you're here!
[20:07] <bencrisford> hullo everyone :)
[20:07] <Lns> hi bencrisford
[20:07] <highvoltage> we don't really have any big technical or community issues for this meeting, are we all ready to add the ideas to gobby?
[20:08] <bencrisford> highvoltage: mind if i mention the blueprint i found
[20:08] <highvoltage> bencrisford: fire away
[20:08] <highvoltage> 21:01 < highvoltage> gobby document is on gobby.ubuntu.com
[20:09] <highvoltage> 21:01 < highvoltage> docname: edubuntu-maverick-brainstorming
[20:09] <highvoltage> Lns ^^^ you probably missed that
[20:09] <bencrisford> well in the last few meetings we've been talking about team restructuring i.e. deleting inactive/unnecessary ones, fixing needed ones and generally organising and cleaning up
[20:09] <Lns> highvoltage: thanks.. gobby?
[20:10] <bencrisford> then the other day i happened to find a blueprint on exactly this (you might have seen it) assigned to JohnEd
[20:10]  * bencrisford finds blueprint
[20:12] <bencrisford> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/education-launchpad-groups
[20:12] <bencrisford> there it is
[20:12] <bencrisford> 3 years old
[20:12] <bencrisford> but still relevent
[20:12] <highvoltage> mhall119: I see you joined us on gobby, have you put any thought into perhaps having a gnome-based qimo session in the future?
[20:12] <mhall119> I've been thinking about it, yeah
[20:13] <mhall119> I'll have to figure out all the gnome-settings, since they're different from how Xfce does it
[20:13] <mhall119> but it should be possible to make a Qimo-Gnome session
[20:13] <highvoltage> mhall119: most of it goes into gconf, which actually makes it quite easy to change
[20:14] <mhall119> that's what I thought
[20:14]  * stgraber just moved a few stuff around on gobby and commented on pretty much everything ;)
[20:15] <highvoltage> stgraber: yeah I think things like central authentication should be done from a server team perspective
[20:15] <highvoltage> stgraber: and when it's ready it's just something that we include
[20:15] <highvoltage> (even though it's edubuntu'ish people doin it in the server team)
[20:16] <highvoltage> (I hope I'm making sense)
[20:16] <stgraber> yeah, we can probably give a hand at the server team guys to make that happen
[20:16]  * bencrisford is sad that no-one is interested in the blueprint he found :(
[20:16] <bencrisford> j/k
[20:16] <bencrisford> :P
[20:16]  * stgraber is proudly running ldap+kerberos+gosa at home ;)
[20:16] <highvoltage> I opened it in a tab, haven't looked at it yet
[20:16] <highvoltage> stgraber: nerd!
[20:17] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ok ;) :)
[20:17] <highvoltage> (I've been wanting to do it too for years)
[20:17] <stgraber> highvoltage: well, "home" means over 120 VMs and 10 hosts on 2 continents, 3 countries and 5 physical sites ;)
[20:17] <stgraber> highvoltage: so it's kind of a necesity
[20:17] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yeah that blueprint should probably be added under a ==community== heading
[20:18] <bencrisford> ooh, in the posh gobby doc?
[20:18] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ^?
[20:18] <highvoltage> yes bencrisford
[20:19] <stgraber> bencrisford: btw, are you going to UDS ?
[20:19] <highvoltage> one thing I'd really like to see is getting our script repository being used more
[20:19] <bencrisford> stgraber: fraid not
[20:19] <highvoltage> there's lots of people writing a bunch of useful scripts to simplify admin work that they might want to share but perhaps they're just not aware of a platform
[20:20] <highvoltage> perhaps we should have sessions where we show people how to use bzr and get their scripts up, and also document the scripts on help.ubuntu.com
[20:20] <bencrisford> highvoltage: should I link to that blueprint though?  because its still assigned to JohnEd
[20:21] <bencrisford> RichEd* my bad :P
[20:21] <highvoltage> bencrisford: I'm sure we can get an LP admin to change that for us, so yes
[20:21] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ok, RichEd has been gone a long time then?
[20:21] <stgraber> bencrisford: he no longer works for Canonical
[20:21] <bencrisford> stgraber: ah ok
[20:22] <highvoltage> highvoltage: yep, for more than 2 years iirc
[20:22] <stgraber> highvoltage: more like a year. Barcelona was the first UDS without RichEd, last met him in Mountainview, CA
[20:23] <highvoltage> stgraber: wow, it really feels longer, he was very unavailable for a long time before he left, so I'm probably just thinking of that too
[20:24] <stgraber> yeah
[20:25] <highvoltage> hmm, I'm not sure why but it feels like we're missing something
[20:26] <highvoltage> I guess the next steps would be to make blueprints of stuff we know that we want to do and link them to these items on the wiki page
[20:26] <highvoltage> (busy pasting to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Specifications/Brainstorming/Maverick)
[20:27] <highvoltage> things like Sugar and OpenLDAP/Kerberos have always been somewhat tricky
[20:27] <highvoltage> but we can note down any and all risks inside the specification
[20:28] <highvoltage> we should probably split all those items into a few sessions at UDS, the LTSP and authentication items would fall under the server track
[20:29] <highvoltage> you guys are a bit more quiet than usual tonight :)
[20:30]  * highvoltage ads the actions I just mentioned to the doc
[20:30] <stgraber> that's because we are half on irc half on gobby ;)
[20:30] <highvoltage> heh, ok :)
[20:31] <highvoltage> stgraber: did you get that link from akgraner with the interview questions?
[20:31] <stgraber> highvoltage: nope
[20:31]  * stgraber checks
[20:31] <stgraber> nope
[20:31] <highvoltage> stgraber: ok I'll ping you with it after the meeting
[20:32] <stgraber> ok
[20:32] <bencrisford> what interview's that then? :)
[20:32] <highvoltage> I copied the gobby doc contents to the wikipage
[20:32] <highvoltage> (more like, moved it to avoid conflicts)
[20:34] <highvoltage> bencrisford: akgraner is doing an interview with us about Edubuntu, to spread some awareness
[20:34] <bencrisford> highvoltage: thats awesome :), where's is being published?
[20:34] <highvoltage> stgraber: heh, I see you're used to mediawiki formatting atm :)
[20:34] <highvoltage> bencrisford: ubuntu fridge, planet, etc
[20:35] <stgraber> highvoltage: yeah, unfortunately ... I'd love to get rid of that believe me ;)
[20:35] <mhall119> highvoltage: is she doing to get it on Ubuntu User or FCM?
[20:36] <highvoltage> mhall119: probably in Ubuntu User at minimam, not sure about FCM, she did say before but that was a while ago so I'm not 100% sure if it will make FCM as well
[20:36] <mhall119> cool
[20:37] <highvoltage> tomorrow I'll contact our web guys who seem to be a bit rare on IRC when we have meetings :)
[20:37] <highvoltage> we'll try to co-ordinate so that our site is up by the time we get to release
[20:38] <highvoltage> our meeting next week is the day before release, so we can then check through everything and make sure all our release work items are done
[20:39] <bencrisford> awesome :)
[20:40] <stgraber> yep, we really need to hurry on the website as it'll be extremely hard to update next week
[20:40] <highvoltage> oh right due to bandwidth constraints?
[20:40] <bencrisford> highvoltage: btw, just read your edubuntu blog post, thanks for the mention :)
[20:40] <stgraber> nope, due to not having any sysadmin available ;)
[20:41] <highvoltage> heh, ok
[20:41] <highvoltage> bencrisford: you're welcome!
[20:42] <highvoltage> Anyone have anything else for this meeting? I think we got most of the ideas that has been mentioned up until now down
[20:42] <highvoltage> and I think we have a good idea of what we should be doing for the next few days
[20:43] <stgraber> nope, nothing to add here. Seems like we'll get a great release for 10.04 ! congrats everyone
[20:43] <highvoltage> *nod* congrats and thanks!
[20:44] <highvoltage> Meeting adjourned!
[20:44] <highvoltage> *GONG*
[20:44] <bencrisford> highvoltage: :( so its the end of the BONG ?
[20:45] <highvoltage> bencrisford: unfortunately, yes. :)
[20:45] <bencrisford> it doesnt seem right, that the BONG that has served us so well should just be left to gather dust highvoltage