[00:46] <emmanuel_> hello!!
[00:47] <emmanuel_> I'm using ubuntu and firefox and java plugin, but when I launch java applet window from firefox
[00:47] <emmanuel_> I cannot close the window!!
[00:47] <emmanuel_> somebody helps me?
[00:49] <micahg> emmanuel_: which version of Ubuntu
[00:49] <emmanuel_> 9.10
[00:49] <emmanuel_> firefox 3.6
[00:49] <micahg> which version of firefox?
[00:49] <emmanuel_> and sun-java6-plugin
[00:49] <micahg> emmanuel_: which version of firefox 3.6?
[00:50] <micahg> emmanuel_: are you running firefox-stable?
[00:50] <emmanuel_> yeah
[00:50]  * micahg is looking
[00:50] <emmanuel_> firefox 3.6.3
[00:52] <micahg> oh, yeah, we should probably look into that
[00:53] <micahg> emmanuel_: we have a few bugs on it, and I think it's fixed in Lucid
[00:54] <emmanuel_> lucid is the next version of ubuntu?
[00:54] <micahg> emmanuel_: yes
[00:55] <micahg> emmanuel_: can you check /var/log/kern.log to see if there were any apparmor entries for firefox?
[00:56]  * micahg will be back in a few minutes
[00:57] <emmanuel_> ok, wait!!
[00:58] <emmanuel_> no, there's no entry for firefox in log file
[01:24] <micahg> emmanuel_: ok
[01:24] <micahg> emmanuel_: that's good, at least it's not apparmor
[01:29] <emmanuel_> and then what is causing the problem?
[01:49] <ccheney> anyone know where to get irc logs of this channel?
[01:52] <ccheney> ah i found it irclogs.ubuntu.com
[07:56] <nikolam> hello
[08:53] <BUGabundo_remote> rufus fetch the paper :D
[12:33] <chrisccoulson> asac - OOPP is enabled by default for the flash plugin only atm, but it only works for the official 32-bit plugin (it just matches the SO name). do you think we should enable it for users using the 64-bit plugin too (which has a different SO name)? it seems to work quite well
[12:33] <asac> chrisccoulson: we shouldnt change that imo
[12:34] <asac> also the 64bit one isnt even something official
[12:34] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, no worries
[12:34] <asac> let mozilla do those decisions ;) ... less pain for us and we can always defer upstream if someone complains
[12:52] <cwillu_at_work> what are the odds that I would be able to build via "debian/rules binary" from an arbitrary "apt-get source" from the daily ppa?
[13:00] <cwillu_at_work> specifically, patches fail to apply
[13:20] <BUGabundo_remote> chrisccoulson: asac: but can an user like me, enable it for any plugin , manually ?
[13:21] <chrisccoulson> BUGabundo_remote, yes
[13:21] <BUGabundo_remote> how?
[13:22] <chrisccoulson> BUGabundo_remote, in about:config, you can adjust the dom.ipc.plugins.enabled preferences
[13:22] <chrisccoulson> so, dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.libflashplayer enables it for the the flash plugin (the last part has to match the SO name of the plugin)
[13:23] <chrisccoulson> you can create preferences for any other plugin
[13:23] <chrisccoulson> or you can just use dom.ipc.plugins.enabled to enable it for all plugins
[13:25] <BUGabundo_remote> cool
[13:25] <BUGabundo_remote> thanks
[13:35] <chrisccoulson> asac - xulrunner-1.9.1 is gone \o/
[13:39] <asac> chrisccoulson: congrats ;)
[14:38] <cwillu_at_work> fta, got a second?
[16:00] <gnomefreak> if i preint a spreadsheet will it print the lines automaticly or do i need to choose an option?
[16:00] <gnomefreak> s/preint/print
[16:00] <micahg> gnomefreak: probably depends on the programs
[16:02] <BUGabundo_remote> gnomefreak: for OOo you need to _draw_ them
[16:02] <gnomefreak> micahg: its just tax information i need to print and i would like to save it in a spreadsheet so i have the table printed
[16:02] <gnomefreak> tell mew ther eis an option :( im opening it now to see
[16:03] <micahg> gnomefreak: try print preview before printing to see if it's enabled
[16:03] <gnomefreak> micahg: BUGabundo_remote thanks
[16:06] <gnomefreak> damnit
[16:06] <gnomefreak> well that didnt work like i had hoped
[16:10] <gnomefreak> ok not seeing anything that would help printing tables
[16:10] <gnomefreak> i had a different options window when hit print maybe in there?
[16:11] <micahg> gnomefreak: I don't have time to look now, maybe in a couple hours
[16:11] <gnomefreak> micahg: thanks, ill let you know if i find it
[16:13] <asac> chrisccoulson: i will commit somthing to the ubuntu1 UNRELEASED ffox for armel
[16:13] <asac> we need to get that in as a cherry pick for lucid still
[16:14] <asac> chrisccoulson: maybe check if you have anything that still needs to get in lucid upload
[16:15] <asac> then we can cherry pick on top of the last 3.6.3 and upload tomorrow
[16:15] <asac> (and hope it still gets in)
[16:23] <gnomefreak> am i still here?
[16:26] <gnomefreak> not sure how to word this
[16:26] <cwillu_at_work> gnomefreak, select a range of cells and format them with a border?
[16:27] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: ? i didnt see any of that. looks again
[16:27] <cwillu_at_work> gnomefreak, this is in ooo?
[16:27] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: yep
[16:27] <cwillu_at_work> yep, it's actually available directly from the toolbar :)
[16:28] <cwillu_at_work> in the tool bar with the font, near the right, maybe 4th icon back, there's a dropdown of a square
[16:28] <gnomefreak> hm
[16:29] <cwillu_at_work> want a screenshot?
[16:29] <BUGabundo_remote> ahah
[16:30] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: i found the border selection there are ~8 choices but looking for range
[16:30] <cwillu_at_work> select the range, and then hit the one with each line solid
[16:30] <gnomefreak> merge and center cells is there but greyed out
[16:30] <cwillu_at_work> it's the weird thing on the left
[16:32] <gnomefreak> the flame looking icon on the far left lower bar?
[16:32] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: screenshot would be great
[16:32] <cwillu_at_work> http://cwillu.com/files/Screenshot-Format-Cells.png and http://cwillu.com/files/borders.png
[16:33] <cwillu_at_work> I'm hoping that we're talking about the same thing :)
[16:34] <cwillu_at_work> asac, is there some trick to building firefox from our deb source that I'm unaware of?
[16:34] <gnomefreak> i found a way to remove the grid and add it i think i found something very very bad with browser :(
[16:35] <cwillu_at_work> I would have expected that the packages on a ppa were built from the same source as you get when you apt-get source it from the same ppa?
[16:35] <cwillu_at_work> gnomefreak, ?
[16:35] <asac> cwillu_at_work: no ... apt-get source firefox; cd firefox-*/; sudo apt-get build-dep firefox; debuild -b
[16:36] <cwillu_at_work> asac, are the nightlies broken for 3.7 right now?
[16:36] <asac> cwillu_at_work: if they build in ppa then no ... otherwise yes ;)
[16:36] <asac> they were broken a few days ago
[16:36] <asac> chrisccoulson has that on his list (working up from fixing first 3.6 on hardy etc.)
[16:36] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: galoen opened >20 pages with it crashed start or dont start browser. and i dont see where you found that option :(
[16:36] <asac> cwillu_at_work: most likely xulrunner 1.9.3 would need fix first
[16:37] <asac> cwillu_at_work: feel free to help out ... submit patches etc.
[16:37] <asac> its usually rebasing patches we carry because upstream either landed them, part of them or something unrelated that interferes with our code touched
[16:37] <cwillu_at_work> gnomefreak, select a range of cells, right click -> format, then the borders tab
[16:38] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: i cant find select range anywhere
[16:38] <cwillu_at_work> gnomefreak, no, select a range by clicking and dragging
[16:38] <cwillu_at_work> like you'd select a block of text
[16:41] <gnomefreak> by dragging it highlites the blocks
[16:41] <cwillu_at_work> yes
[16:41] <cwillu_at_work> and then right click and hit format
[16:43] <gnomefreak> i think i found that at least :)
[16:43] <cwillu_at_work> you never print all grid lines, you just select which grid lines you want (and how you want them to look if you care)
[16:44] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: will my setting stay or do i have to change it everytime (same doc or different doc)
[16:44] <cwillu_at_work> :)
[16:44] <cwillu_at_work> silly gnomefreak
[16:45] <cwillu_at_work> it's not a document setting, it's a setting on the cell (with a convenient way to do a bunch of cells at the same time)
[16:45]  * gnomefreak not good at fun docs ;) i stick with word processor or editer more than anything
[16:45] <cwillu_at_work> you could change the default template, but you don't want to do that
[16:46] <gnomefreak> shit that means i have to change it everytime
[16:46] <cwillu_at_work> you saw the toolbar shortcut right?
[16:47] <cwillu_at_work> the grid lines are just for display, and you can even turn them off there :p
[16:48] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: yeah i saw it if you mean the one that says boarders when hovering
[16:48] <cwillu_at_work> yep
[16:48] <cwillu_at_work> what are you trying to do?
[16:49] <cwillu_at_work> at all browser related? :p
[16:49] <gnomefreak> yeah i didnt think of it at the time
[16:49] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: no its tax info (at least the next one is this one is testing
[16:50]  * gnomefreak goes for smoke before thye next bunch of crap
[16:50] <gnomefreak> be back in a few
[16:51] <cwillu_at_work> the office world desperately needs a firefox
[16:55] <gnomefreak> firefox needs to get fixed first ;)
[16:55]  * gnomefreak guessing i need to use line 1 to name each column?
[16:56] <cwillu_at_work> yes
[16:57] <cwillu_at_work> spreadsheets aren't tables, you only get structure if you make it yourself :)
[16:57] <cwillu_at_work> they're the dynamic programming languages of the data world
[16:57] <cwillu_at_work> in other news, can somebody tell me why pbuilder recommends a mail daemon?
[16:59] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: it doesnt its one of the depends that does
[16:59]  * gnomefreak looking to find out what one it is
[17:01] <gnomefreak> if you mean qmail its fakeroot
[17:01] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: IIRC there is way to only grab deps using apt/aptitude
[17:03] <gnomefreak> cwillu_at_work: --no-install-recommends should work
[17:03] <cwillu_at_work> gnomefreak, I know, I just think it's a braindead recommends
[17:03] <gnomefreak> agreed
[17:03] <cwillu_at_work> at most it should be a suggests
[17:04] <gnomefreak> as i have learned that is a change on debian side (also sucks) since we dont have packages that they use as suggest
[17:12] <gnomefreak> he loeft?
[17:13] <gnomefreak> asac: did the latest FF daily fix the slow/hanging/pretty much not usable
[17:15] <gnomefreak> still no tb daily but that is least of my concerns
[17:27] <gnomefreak> nope not fixed
[18:57]  * gnomefreak takes a break finally 
[19:35] <chrisccoulson> hey micahg - did you manage to fix the symlink issue?
[19:36] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I have the fix, I didn't get a chance to test yet
[19:36] <chrisccoulson> ok, no worries. we're pretty frozen now anyway ;)
[19:36] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k
[19:37] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I figured you'd probably upload tomorrow or Friday anyways
[19:46] <gnomefreak> micahg: seems latest daily of 3.6 still very slow/hanging or whatever its called. not important just thought i would let you know
[19:47] <micahg> gnomefreak: why is it not important?
[19:48] <gnomefreak> micahg: its been like that for ~1week. would be nice to have it fixed before release but im not sure if stable is having same issues
[19:48] <gnomefreak> and i know you have a shit load of work on your to do list
[19:48] <micahg> gnomefreak: well, we aren't releasing OOPP until after final Lucid release
[19:48] <gnomefreak> OOPP?
[19:48] <micahg> gnomefreak: out of process plugins
[19:48] <micahg> gnomefreak: that's in the security PPA ATM
[19:49] <gnomefreak> oh never heard of that
[19:49] <micahg> gnomefreak: they backported the functionality from 3.7
[19:49] <Dimmuxx> I've been using that one for a day now and it seems to work great
[19:49] <micahg> and will release with 3.6.4
[19:49] <Dimmuxx> much better flash performance
[19:49] <micahg> Dimmuxx: I'm glad, please let us know if there are any isssues
[19:50] <Dimmuxx> micahg: will do
[19:50] <gnomefreak> micahg: ah ok. well FF isnt the only one that is doing it. epiphany seems to be the only one that works fine. not sure why either even galoen and arora and both FF
[19:51]  * gnomefreak hasnt played with SM2 or 1 but i have to assume pretty much same
[19:51] <gnomefreak> oh yeah i did hear about OOPP just didnt relizer what it was called
[19:52]  * gnomefreak saw it in mailing list a while ago 1 month or so
[19:52] <micahg> gnomefreak: galeon is gone from lucid, epiphany is webkit based now, I think Arora is also webkit
[19:52] <gnomefreak> i have galeon installed
[19:52] <gnomefreak> oopps
[19:53] <gnomefreak> micahg: its still in Lucid from what search gives me
[19:53] <micahg> gnomefreak: take a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/GEMLeak
[19:54] <micahg> gnomefreak: do you have the transition PPA enabled?
[19:54] <micahg> !info galeon lucid
[19:54] <gnomefreak> micahg: i dont think i do
[19:54] <gnomefreak> micahg: it was removed it seems
[19:55] <micahg> gnomefreak: :)
[19:55] <gnomefreak> i guess search saw it since i have it installed
[19:55] <gnomefreak> policy shows dpkg line no archive lines
[19:55]  * micahg kicks ubottu for giving outdated info
[19:55] <gnomefreak> galeon:
[19:55] <gnomefreak>   Installed: 2.0.7-1ubuntu4
[19:55] <gnomefreak>   Candidate: 2.0.7-1ubuntu4
[19:55] <gnomefreak>   Version table:
[19:55] <gnomefreak>  *** 2.0.7-1ubuntu4 0
[19:55] <gnomefreak>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[19:56] <micahg> gnomefreak: right, we updated it for xul192 then dropped since upstream is dead and don't want to keep updating
[19:56] <gnomefreak> micahg: makes sense
[19:56]  * gnomefreak needs to find a web browser that i can depend on until FF is fixed
[19:57] <micahg> gnomefreak: FF stable in Lucid works fine for me
[19:57] <micahg> FF from security PPA works too
[19:57] <gnomefreak> so its only daily?
[19:57] <micahg> gnomefreak: so it seems, if you have specific issues, see if someone can reproduce
[19:58] <gnomefreak> micahg: it was reproduce by a few people (they have been coming in here the past week or so
[19:58] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I have one more conkeror upload before release with xul192 fixes, should I wait till last minute or have it ready in the next day or 2?
[19:58] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i can upload conkeror as soon as it is ready, it'snot constrained in the same way as thunderbird
[19:59] <gnomefreak> GEM issue does not affect non-free drivers i am assuming nvidia-common is the non free driver
[19:59] <micahg> chrisccoulson: right, the thing is, I don't know if the devs will find more critical xul192 fixes
[19:59] <micahg> chrisccoulson: so is it worth waiting to see if they find more stuff, or just upload and upload again if they find mroe?>
[20:00] <chrisccoulson> i think i'd rather just upload it
[20:00] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I'll have it ready tomorrow and ping you with the bug #
[20:00] <chrisccoulson> thanks#
[20:00] <gnomefreak> IIRC ther eis also a bug on it that i saw a few days ago or yesterday sorry been reallly busy so days are merging into one
[20:01] <gnomefreak> i guess i try using stable and see if i cant pin it
[20:01] <micahg> gnomefreak: if you find the bug # let me know, if it's not an issue in 3.6.4 though, but only 3.6.5pre, I'd prefer to wait on it till after lucid release
[20:02] <gnomefreak> ok ill do email in a few minutes
[20:02] <gnomefreak> are we waiting for a fix for tb3 t6o land  in daily?
[20:02] <gnomefreak> damn typing is getting bad
[20:02] <gnomefreak> tb3 to
[20:02] <micahg> gnomefreak: fix for what?
[20:03] <gnomefreak> micahg: i dont know i just havent gotten an update for it yesterday or today
[20:03] <micahg> the only thing that would be missing ATM is the foreign language dictionaries
[20:03] <micahg> gnomefreak: no updates upstream
[20:03] <gnomefreak> oh
[20:03]  * gnomefreak doesnt see that very often
[20:04] <micahg> gnomefreak: if we had 3.1 and 3.2 working, you'd see updates I'm sure :)
[20:04] <gnomefreak> good point i didnt know we srtarted 3
[20:04] <micahg> gnomefreak: after Lucid release, I'll get the 3.1 and 3.2 dailies going
[20:04] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok cool
[20:04] <gnomefreak> thanks
[20:04] <micahg> gnomefreak: comm-central is branching soon :)
[20:05] <gnomefreak> ah
[20:05] <gnomefreak> didnt they just do that not to long ago
[20:06] <gnomefreak> at least for SM
[20:06] <micahg> gnomefreak: well, they bumped main version to 3.2 a while ago, but didn't branch
[20:06] <gnomefreak> oh
[20:06] <micahg> gnomefreak: so, now there will be a comm-192 for TB31 only
[20:07] <gnomefreak> oh
[20:07] <micahg> gnomefreak: SM is jumping straight to xul193
[20:07] <gnomefreak> for 2.1?
[20:07] <micahg> gnomefreak: yep
[20:07] <gnomefreak> seeing as its been on 1.9.1
[20:08] <gnomefreak> im fairly sure 2.0 is as well
[20:08] <micahg> gnomefreak: SM20 and TB30 are xul191
[20:09] <gnomefreak> yeah
[20:09] <gnomefreak> what PPA other than daily has 3.6.4?
[20:10] <gnomefreak> ffox35 PPA?
[20:10] <micahg> gnomefreak: daily has 3.6.5, security has 3.6.4, stable/Lucid has 3.6.3
[20:10] <micahg> gnomefreak: ffox35 PPA is the transitional PPA for xul conversions
[20:10] <gnomefreak> ok thanks maybe i can fix this than
[20:10] <gnomefreak> so i dont need it anymore :)
[20:11] <micahg> gnomefreak: yeah, I don't suggest having that in sources unless you're testing migration stuff
[20:11] <gnomefreak> micahg: i had it #ed out once i found it
[20:11] <gnomefreak> i keep incase someone askes
[20:23] <micahg> nikolam: I have a couple more issues before I push Seamonkey to a PPA for testing
[20:24] <nikolam> micahg, if anyhow I can help, just tell me what.
[20:24] <micahg> nikolam: testing once I finish would be great :)
[20:25] <nikolam> micahg, will there be hardy, karmic and interpid?
[20:25] <micahg> nikolam: TBD
[20:25] <micahg> nikolam: intrepid not
[20:26] <micahg> jaunty Maybe
[20:27] <nikolam> well interpid , lts is most important. to have it as backport at least later.
[20:27] <nikolam> interpid is 10.04?
[20:27] <micahg> nikolam: intrepid is 8.10
[20:27] <micahg> nikolam: almost EOL
[20:28] <nikolam> oh , sorry :) I am better with numbers
[20:28] <nikolam> then 8.04 , 9.10 and 10.04 for now ;)
[20:29] <micahg> nikolam: well, 10.04 if I make it, then probably 8.04, 9.04, and 9.10
[20:29] <nikolam> ok, I will quit chatting, just would like so much to duplicate steps in .deb making whan you finish
[20:29] <nikolam> (i dont care much about 9.04, those guys are mostly on 9.10 anyway, till 10.04)
[20:30] <nikolam> ok :P
[20:33] <chrisccoulson> asac - do you want me to merge http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.6.head/revision/586 in to the lucid branch? (or do you want to do that?)
[20:34] <gnomefreak> micahg: when you are done let me know ill test as well
[20:34] <micahg> gnomefreak: k
[20:35] <gnomefreak> thanks
[20:36] <gnomefreak> micahg: ubottu will be updated soon  it runs on a cron
[20:37] <micahg> gnomefreak: k
[20:37] <gnomefreak> soon == sometime in the next day or so
[20:44] <ccheney> asac: iirc the last thing we discussed fixing for gtkentry for epiphany was to use all the functions from the new version for it but override in the init class for them?
[20:44] <ccheney> asac: so that means i need copies of eg GtkEntryBuffer too, i think?
[20:45] <ccheney> i seemed to have removed that but i guess that was a mistake, i still have a copy of the old code so can add it back
[20:49] <ccheney> yea i don't see any mention of removing it before, so i'll add it back
[21:09]  * micahg hugs BUGa_depressed
[21:09] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, there will be at least a build2 for Firefox 3.6.4
[21:10]  * BUGa_depressed hugs micahg back
[21:32] <cwillu_at_work> BUGa_depressed, why are you depressed?
[21:33] <BUGa_depressed> mew
[21:33] <BUGa_depressed> not on public #
[21:34]  * cwillu_at_work hands BUGa_depressed a bug that's soon to be fixed, and offers him the opportunity to mark it as "Fix Committed", hoping that that will lift his spirits
[21:35]  * BUGa_depressed reminds cwillu he has been to lazy to apply to bugcontrol
[21:35] <cwillu_at_work> :p
[21:36] <cwillu_at_work> I've already been neglectful of my xorg triage volunteering
[21:39]  * BUGa_depressed his cwillu with a stick http://acidcow.com/pics/20100420/acid_picdump_10.jpg
[21:40]  * cwillu_at_work is poked :(
[21:40] <BUGa_depressed> s/his/hits/
[21:41]  * cwillu_at_work wasn't poked
[21:48] <asac> ccheney: the idea is to derive the class from the GtkEntry class shipped by gtk
[21:48] <ccheney> yea
[21:48] <asac> and overload all functions with the new implementation
[21:48] <asac> chrisccoulson can probably help with that too as he knows how the gobject class system works
[21:49] <asac> its not only functions, but also you need to override signals and properties
[21:49] <asac> those are syntax wise a bit trickier to do, but start with the funcs and once you get to the properties ask
[21:50] <ccheney> yea i think i need copy of gtkentrybuffer for that to work and had previously deleted the code for it from my newest attempt, but copied it back in
[21:51] <ccheney> from what i could tell reading where we were discussing it last time i had tried something that wasn't good in redoing the whole gtkentry file and so copied the old version from before that back in and working on getting the overrides done correctly now
[22:05] <ccheney> argh i broke my patch somehow, dealing with this annoying giant patch without breaking builds is hard
[22:07] <ccheney> apparently it was a quilt pedantic issue of some sort, popping worked fine
[22:08] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i can probably help out with any gobject stuff, but not tonight (not feeling too well still). feel free to drop me a mail with anything you need any help with though, and i can pick it up in the morning
[22:15] <ccheney> chrisccoulson: ok will do once i get it to the point where its just failing on the object related parts again
[22:42] <ccheney> wow it looks like it actually built :)
[22:42] <ccheney> now have to do the overrides if it did actually build 'properly'
[22:43] <ccheney> a few more fixes left from warning messages then on the overrides
[22:47] <ccheney> hmm should probably test in hardy again before doing any more changes