[00:00] \sh, awesome, I was planning to look into that to try to get it for Maverick [00:00] mathiaz, what kind of other alternatives? [00:01] RoAkSoAx: well - whatever you need to do to register a puppet client [00:01] RoAkSoAx: I don't have a specific example [00:01] RoAkSoAx: as I would use the cloud-config support for puppet [00:03] mathiaz, I see then... i'll look into it then. And btw.. would that work with regular KVM's? or Only for the Cloud instances? [00:03] RoAkSoAx: only UEC/EC2 images [00:03] RoAkSoAx: it also depends what you use to run your kvm [00:04] RoAkSoAx: for now the necessary information is brought via the user-data option [00:05] mathiaz, well I would like to test it on my local machine without having to implement a UEC [00:05] RoAkSoAx: it == ? [00:06] mathiaz, ?? :/ [00:06] what do you mean [00:07] RoAkSoAx: you wanna test *what* without the cloud? [00:08] mathiaz, i mean auto registration of the puppet client [00:08] as if they were running in the cloud [00:08] but they would be running on a local machine on KVM [00:09] RoAkSoAx: well - that wouldn't work since the work done is to enable automatic registration in the cloud [00:10] mathiaz, that is managed by puppet... correct? [00:11] RoAkSoAx: the cloud? no it's not managed by puppet [00:12] mathiaz, no i the integration of puppet to EC2/UEC will allow a puppet server to register to a puppet master that are both running in the cloud? [00:13] s/puppet server/puppet client [00:13] which also means that the instance will be registering to the cloud, correct? [00:16] RoAkSoAx: well - it's the other way around [00:17] RoAkSoAx: the cloud starts an instance [00:17] RoAkSoAx: and the instance will be able to register to any puppet master [00:17] RoAkSoAx: I need to jet out [00:17] RoAkSoAx: I'd suggest to read up the series of blog post I made about puppet-UEC/EC2 integration [00:18] mathiaz, i will thanks :) [00:18] RoAkSoAx: http://ubuntumathiaz.wordpress.com [00:19] debug6 hggdh [00:20] hggdh, i've never seen that error. sigh. [00:23] smoser: heh. which error? ;-) [00:23] red only filesystem [00:23] read even [00:24] smoser: yeah, this sucks... I just opened bug 565101 about that [00:24] Launchpad bug 565101 in eucalyptus "walrus reports java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565101 [00:24] smoser: could you prepare a debug6-compatible image for the RC? [00:25] hggdh, you mean take the rc image and enable some debug ? [00:25] heres the problem with that. [00:25] bug 566793 [00:25] Launchpad bug 566793 in eucalyptus "euca-get-console-output gives first 64k of output, not most recent" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566793 [00:26] the reason that is a problem is that if you turn upstart debugging on, output is so verbose that you don't get the end of it [00:27] i worked around that here by ssh'ing to the NC and getting the console log from there, but in your situation with multiple NC, it'd be harder [00:27] <\sh> hggdh, is tomcat somehow involved? [00:31] \sh I do not think so [00:31] smoser: yes, have the debug code on the RC -- but only if we will learn something new from it, I guess [00:32] damm, gave the wrong bug # on the console thingy [00:32] the readonly FS is bug 567592 [00:32] Launchpad bug 567592 in cloud-init "rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/urandom/random-seed': Read-only file system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/567592 [00:33] \sh no tomcat (just checked) [00:34] <\sh> hggdh, well, the bug sounded like a long time hanging tomcat bug regarding "re-starting/re-deploying" tomcat webapps.. [00:39] hggdh, ok. i have registered 3 amis now [00:39] euca-describe-images | grep "emi.*20100420" [00:39] lucid-20100420-debug-upstart/lucid-server-uec-amd64.img.manifest.xml [00:39] lucid-20100420/lucid-server-uec-amd64.img.manifest.xml [00:40] lucid-20100420-debug-upstart-loud/lucid-server-uec-amd64.img.manifest.xml [00:40] debug-upstart-loud has debug at 'info' [00:40] debug-upstart actually has no upstart debug, but does have some from cloud-init [00:49] smoser: thank you. I will see what happens with them ;-) [00:50] but as i said, hggdh, due to that console output bug, if you don't capture the whole console output, its not that useful [00:51] but for this read-only one, i have mountall debug on [00:51] so that might help [00:51] ah. wait. [00:51] we've seen this before [00:51] the plymouth not available [00:51] kirkland was moaning about this in -devel the other day [00:52] kirkland, did you open an issie on this ? [00:58] smoser: as far as I can remember pretty much all failed instances (I took out the console output for success) seem to have a plymouth barfing [00:58] yes, but in this case mountall decided to do something about it :) [00:58] thats the difference [00:58] heh [00:58] which image has mountall at debug? [00:59] both [00:59] both the debug ones [00:59] the -loud has upstart to [00:59] stick with the non loud [01:00] yes, sounds like a very good idea. [01:00] there we go :-) [01:00] i just instaleld the -debug0 package that i put together for your other bug [01:01] hggdh, i have to run [01:01] sorry === sferry is now known as sammah [01:03] smoser: thank you, and have a nice evening === sammah is now known as samferry [02:24] anyone here? [03:11] hi! [03:11] anyone seeing apparmor related oops on install ? http://p.defau.lt/?nBDkcPAlmAk_DmALqzZzag [03:13] domas: I haven't seen anything like that, but jjohansen will be interested. [03:13] I'm having troubles running installer on 2x6 core opteron boxes [03:13] thats brand new CPU, so may be related :) [03:14] though managed to install one box :) [03:14] domas: can you file that in a bug [03:15] have to figure out how can I contact canonical support :)) [03:15] domas: also which kernel? [03:15] 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu [03:15] what are you trying to install? [03:15] different oops now: http://p.defau.lt/?FSq_675qXqvJxQDZLdwATw [03:16] karmic [03:16] this is unattended install, that succeeds on all our other machines [03:16] just this class of machines fails [03:17] domas: hrmm, strange [03:17] I installed one :) [03:18] tried karmic, failed, tried hardy ,failed, succeeded with next karmic install :) [03:18] domas: have you tried Lucid? [03:18] I'm not sure I have network image for that one around [03:19] is it released yet? [03:19] ah, few more weeks [03:20] domas: its RC so very close, its kernel would probably better support that rig [03:21] domas, there are dailies. [03:23] anyway [03:23] pure magic is that I have it installed on one box ;-) [03:23] let me retrace the steps ;-))) [03:28] hardy kernel was locking up on all older machines of this type too :) [03:30] hmmm, now hardy installer is working [03:32] btw, is there a way to create stripe-aligned (or 1MB-aligned) partitions with automated installer? :) [03:43] domas: not that I know of, but then I don't play with that stuff much [04:05] I've specified a directory on my new mail server that I would like to mount separately from the rest of the file system (along with a couple of others that do work correctly). I am specifying the directory as this in fstab: /dev/sdm /var/spool/mail/virtual ext3 defaults,noatime,noacl,data=ordered 1 2…. it shows up as /var/mail/virtual …. http://pastebin.com/LmvZBMWr [04:38] hi, what is a good way to monitor a server load for a period of time? [04:42] * deslector wonders if it is possible to monitor power consumption too [04:42] you can monitor power consumption, if your chassis supports that :) [04:42] hi [04:42] hehe [04:43] actual_power = 300 [04:43] when sending a message with the command mail, can I set the sender's address ? [04:43] maxagaz: use 'sendmail' and provide headers [04:48] domas, hmm... I don't know, but don't think so... this is one of the cheap ProLiants [04:48] I'll check into it, though... [04:51] hmm... pwrkap may be what I want [05:36] New bug: #567701 in ntp (main) "Date not updated by ntp when network interfaces started" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/567701 [08:03] guys, I have two NIC interface configured on different subnets on my ubuntu server [08:03] one on 192.168.44.x and the other on 192.168.45.x [08:04] please confirm if the gateway used by these interfaces should be different [08:04] when i do a 'route -n' , i see that the gateway for both is 0.0.0.0... which then is 192.168.44.2 [08:05] so.. is this a problem? [08:05] please advise [08:05] That entirely depends on the network configuration. [08:05] But unless you're doing something especially fancy, there should only be one route to 0.0.0.0 on a host. [08:05] persia... how can a 192.168.45.x subnet us a 192.168.44.2 gateway? [08:06] persia... shouldn't 192.168.45.x use itself is the gateway? [08:06] Because your host routes packets from 192.168.45.x to the 192.168.44.x interface to go to the 192.168.44.2 device, which then routes them somewhere else. [08:06] No. [08:07] persia.. that's what I dont want.. I done want packets to go from 192.168.45.x to 192.168.44.x [08:07] Assuming you have a single-gateway network, *other* hosts on 192.168.45.0/24 (assuming that's your network size) should use 192.168.45.x as a gateway. [08:07] Can we use numbers? Your use of "x" confuses me. Let's call them 17 and 23. [08:07] So 192.168.44.17 uses 192.168.44.2 as a gateway. [08:08] 192.168.44.17 is the same host as 192.168.45.23 [08:08] packets originating from that host should be routed to the internet through 192.168.44.2 [08:08] it is? [08:08] 192.168.45.19 is a compeltely different host. [08:09] It uses 192.168.45.23 as a gateway. [08:09] If you want the dual-homed host to *not* route IPv4 packets, fiddle with /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [08:09] yes.. I dont want the packets sent via 192.168.45.x to go through 192.168.44.x [08:09] how do i guarantee that? [08:10] So you want 192.168.45.19 to not have access to the internet? [08:10] echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [08:10] persia... say I ping another machine on the 192.168.45.0/24 network [08:10] from where? [08:10] it should go via 192.168.45.x on this machine [08:11] * persia waits for an example that *doesn't* use "x" to continue responding [08:12] (fake numbers are fine: I don't need the specifics, but I need something to usefully reference to distinguish the dual-homed host from other hosts) [08:14] swift: you only have one default gw that reaches 0.0.0.0 (e.g. internet) [08:14] (usually) [08:14] for 192.168.45.0/24 you want a route that points to 192.168.45.0 [08:14] persia: right, for his case [08:14] right. [08:15] so you should have: [08:15] Destination Gateway mask Iface [08:15] 192.168.44.0 * eth0 [08:15] 192.168.45.0 * eth1 [08:15] default 192.168.44.2 eth0 [08:16] forgot the mask in there.. [08:16] 255.255.255.0 for the first 2, and 0.0.0.0 for the last one [08:23] if 192.168.45.10 is pinging 192.168.45.11(other machine)... it should use the 192.16845.x gateway... [08:24] <_ruben> no, it shouldnt (need to) use a gateway at all [08:24] Yes, and it ought do it automatically (assuming 192.168.45.10 is the dual-homed machine) [08:25] yes.. [08:25] but on the server the route shows it uses 192.168.44.2 as the gateway [08:25] That's correct. [08:25] So "gateway" has a couple potential interpretations. The simplest one is that it's the route used to get to 0.0.0.0 [08:25] <_ruben> "the gateway" is kind of ambiguous (sp?) [08:25] Hi [08:27] swift: So I wouldn't worry much about 192.168.45.10: that machine sounds like it can get everywhere in all the correct ways. Check from 192.168.45.11 to verify it can ping 192.168.45.10 and can't ping 192.168.44.2 [08:27] (where 192.168.45.11 should use 192.168.45.10 for 0.0.0.0) [08:28] how can i use that interface? [08:28] forgot ping syntax [08:28] :D [08:29] On 192.168.45.11 run `ping 192.168.44.2` [08:31] persia.. I can see that it can ping a .44 IP on another machine!! [08:31] i do 'ping -I eth1 192.168.44.13' [08:31] it pings [08:31] From 192.168.45.11? [08:31] where eth1 is 192.168.45.11 [08:31] yes [08:31] OK. So, is this what you want? [08:32] will I have to put a route there [08:32] No, if you can ping, it already works. [08:32] no... I shouldn't be able to communicate with 192.168.44.x network [08:32] from 192.168.45.11... I should only be able to ping another 192.168.45.x IP [08:32] OK, in that case, you want to disable IPv4 forwarding on 192.168.45.10. [08:33] * _ruben votes for a graphical network diagram and clear description of what should and should not be possible/allowed ;) [08:33] *OR* remove the route to 0.0.0.0 through 192.168.45.10 on 192.168.45.11. For extra points, do both. [08:37] The topic's tinyurl appears to be broken. [08:38] <_ruben> seems to be cut off indeed [08:38] <_ruben> adding "er" to it does work [08:39] Oh! I thought it was intentionally missing. :) [08:39] But is that really the intended page? It redirects to a blog post, rather than “doc and resources”. [08:40] <_ruben> wouldnt know ;) [09:24] hi all. any idea why /etc/postfix/main.cf seems to be missing in lucid? [09:25] RoyK: I have it on a relatively fresh install for which I've done only minimal postfix configuration (setting up satellite system in the prompts). Did you maybe say "no configuration" on initial setup? [09:26] I didn't install the box, but perhaps the guy who did so chose that - wouldn't surprise me [09:26] RoyK: I just tested a fresh lucid postfix install in a chroot, and indeed, if one selects "No Configuration", no main.cf is produced (which seems like the correct behaviour to me). [09:27] Try `dpkg-reconfigure postifx` [09:30] persia: that was indeed the problem - the guy had just chosen "no config" because he didn't understand what to do and didn't bother to read those five lines [09:32] RoyK: That's actually probably the safest thing that could have been done, and it makes it easy to fix (with dpkg-reconfigure). [09:34] yeah [10:04] hi there [10:04] plymouth seems to be blocking startup on lucid [10:04] anybody witnessed that? [10:18] raphink: That's almost never actually plymouth. What's the specific issue? [10:18] when we reboot the server [10:18] almost no service is started [10:18] except ntp [10:18] syslog-ng is not started for example [10:18] and plymouthd keeps running [10:18] after I log in ssh [10:19] deactivating plymouth in /etc/init seemed to help with quite a few services [10:19] Odd. All plymouth should be doing is IO multiplexing (and maybe some screen draws). [10:20] Are you sure something else isn't hanging on IO, and it gets a bit further when it crashes on an IO failure when plymouth isn't around? [10:22] I've tried to put bootchart [10:22] to log what's happening during the boot [10:22] but it doesn't generate the png [10:22] it crashes quite badly [10:24] Can you get the bootlog info, and then generate the graphics post-boot? [10:25] Also, have you filed a bug? This doens7t happen for my serers, and it sounds potentially serious. [10:27] empathy crashed ;-) [10:28] Heh. You're having great luck today :) [10:28] Have you filed a bug yet? [10:28] (about the boot) [10:29] no, I've been searching through the bugs on LP [10:29] ideally, we'd get rid of plymouth [10:29] but there's a bug that is marked as invalid about too strict deps on plymouth [10:30] No, plymouth is essential. Nothing else handles boot-time IO. Using text mode, it doesn't even do much GUI stuff. [10:31] I'd recommend filing a bug against upstart: it shouldn't half-start a system without giving you useful output. [10:31] well currently we haven't checked the console output [10:32] we'll go to the machine room this afternoon hopefully to have a look at it [10:34] That's worth checking: I suspect that it will give you a better target for the bug report. [10:35] ok [10:35] thanks for your time === diehaai is now known as thefish [11:17] what would one enable on apache to get .htaccess stuff working? i just need to pass protect a certain folder [11:18] <_ruben> AllowOverrides [11:19] <_ruben> and you dont need .htaccess for that per se, can be done in (global) config just as well [11:23] _ruben, yes i see, seems everything is configured, but still not working [11:29] <_ruben> not working? tell it to get a job then [11:29] _ruben: /etc/glusterfs/store01-tcp.vol 8.1T 116M 8.1T 1% /mnt/storage [11:29] working with the lucid packages ;) [11:30] <_ruben> binBASH: nice, i should run some tests with it as well, might have some usecases for it [11:30] _ruben: Well I only run it with 100 Mbit though [11:30] provider doesn't have gbit :p [11:31] so only 5.8 MB /sec for writes [11:31] but I don't need fast storage [11:31] can live with that. [11:37] _ruben, i have some other users, that cannot access global conf, so i'd like this to work via htaccess [11:37] anything wrong with this http://pastebin.com/fq9ZVSwP ? === libertiy is now known as libertiy|away [11:40] <_ruben> bronto2: looks good, tho it being only a partial config, cant say anything definitive about it [11:41] hmm, there is no AllowOverrides directive in apache2.conf [11:41] but should defaults to ALL right? [11:43] <_ruben> a sane config sets the default to None === libertiy|away is now known as libertiy [13:20] mdz, fyi, i found a bug that had us not un-publishing our daily images, which caused the ramp up [13:20] in ec2 images as reported by cloudmarket [13:21] smoser, nice work [13:21] might save us a few pennies on our S3 bill too ;-) [13:48] hello, runing hardy + samba 3.0.28 I have an error log like [13:48] create_builtin_users: Failed to create Users [13:48] any idea to fix this please ? [13:50] smoser: any reason why "Ubuntu Server EC2 EBS (Europe) amd64 (ami-8b705aff)" has no registered results so far ? [13:50] humans suck [13:50] i tested, just didn't record [13:51] ttx, fixed [13:51] smoser: thanks ! [13:52] smoser: I hit the "no ssh connection" issue on amd64 UEC images quite a few times, I confirm it looks like a timing issue, the slower i386 image didn't hit it in my tests [13:53] ttx, did you get console logs ? [13:53] because there are 2 possible issues [13:53] and one i have much less understanding on [13:54] smoser: yes, I have it, let me pastebin it [13:55] smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/419841/ === ogra_ is now known as ogra [13:55] it's the test with your test userdatafile [13:55] is that system u p? [13:55] smoser: shows hello world alright [13:55] smoser: no longer [13:56] i can reproduce it if need be though [13:56] thats bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/565018 [13:56] Launchpad bug 565018 in cloud-init "instance is not reachable via ssh" [Undecided,New] [13:56] and i have been extremely unsuccessful in reproducing it with some debug on [13:56] i've run probably 2000 instances trying to [13:57] smoser: it's also a metadata service issue ? [13:57] no. i dont think so. [13:57] i have no clue on this. [13:57] try 19/20 ? [13:57] wait, where ? [13:58] smoser: in your bug comments [13:58] (note, the 19/20 stuff is just bad, it zero based counting) [13:59] ttx, the comment... the 25 cases that have that in their logs are *not* your bug [13:59] that you're sseeing, and that i can't reproduce easily [13:59] i have some info i'd like to get if it reproduces [13:59] 1.) want to collect successfully the error messages from ssh when you connect [14:00] I can reproduce it if you need [14:00] 2.) want to try ssh-keyscan and get those errors [14:00] 3.) ideally turn debug on in upstart, but that seems to reduce likelyhood of error [14:00] ttx, for 1 and 2 if you can get a recreate, please collect [14:01] on my way [14:01] for 3 if you can install the cloud-init from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/566792 [14:01] Launchpad bug 566792 in eucalyptus "UEC guests sometimes fail on consuming user data (metadata service isn't ready)" [High,Confirmed] [14:01] when you dpkg -i that, it will tell you how to enable upstart debug [14:02] the problem with upstart debug is that due to bug 566793 you can't get all the console data if you use upstart debug [14:02] Launchpad bug 566793 in eucalyptus "euca-get-console-output gives first 64k of output, not most recent" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566793 [14:02] its too verbose [14:05] smoser: hm, can't reproduce it now [14:05] maybe you need to change the way you're sitting in your seat [14:06] :-( [14:06] New bug: #527933 in bacula (main) "wuiso" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527933 [14:06] i would really like to get debug on this, because I can't come up with any idea as to why its not working. it seems to me that the cloud-init-cfg stuff is just not getting started (ie, upstart jobs not running) [14:07] * ttx grumbles [14:09] * ttx scraps his topology3 setup that now works like a clockwork and tries a topology 2 [14:10] ttx, for this i really dont think its topology based at all [14:10] i think its racey inside the image itself [14:12] smoser: sure, but I need to cover the missing ISo tests more than I need to chase heisenbugs [14:12] because cloud-init ran, and sshd ran (runs on 'filesystem' event, same as the cloud-init-cfg events) [14:12] one never knows, it might reappear and be time-since-registration-sensitive [14:12] or due to having '.tar' regex in the manifest name :) [14:12] smoser: do I detect some sarcasm ? :) [14:15] how can you tell, looking at the console logs, the difference between bug 565018 and bug 566792 ? [14:15] Launchpad bug 565018 in cloud-init "instance is not reachable via ssh" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565018 [14:15] smoser: ^ [14:15] Launchpad bug 566792 in eucalyptus "UEC guests sometimes fail on consuming user data (metadata service isn't ready)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566792 [14:16] ttx, look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44832884/guest-error.log and http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44479315/console.fail.1.txt [14:16] firs is the "fail on consuming" [14:17] see, it falls all over the place , all the cloud-init-cfg stuff runs, but fails because its got no metadata [14:17] in the second, the stuff either runs quietly to success or not at all [14:17] smoser: it's that verbose even with the default image ? [14:17] there are no python trace [14:17] yeah... the python throws error [14:18] ok, then I definitely have been hitting 565018 [14:18] I don't remember ever seeing those python stacktraces in console logs [14:18] * ttx fixes iso test results accordingly [14:19] well, if/when you do, please get 'ssh -v instance-ip 2>err.txt 1>out.txt' and 'ssh-keyscan instance-ip 2>err.keyscan 1>out.keyscan' please [14:19] ttx, well, you shoudln't see them :) [14:19] excellent. [14:20] kirkland/nijaba: RH has produced the library "netcf" [https://fedorahosted.org/netcf/] for configuring/polling network configuration. This library is (in theory) distribution-agnostic, but lacks a backend for Ubuntu/Debian. The library is used by libvirt to support advanced (remote) network configuration/usage, and virt-manager now expose this as well. There is also talk about using it in NetworkManager [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Shared_N [14:20] "Someone" should write a new backend for Netcf so that libvirt in Ubuntu can use these new features. It is written in C, and will need a developer that also is knowledgeable in network configuration "the Debian way". [14:20] I propose that this is written up for discussion at UDS. I do not think the community will develop this, due to it being so tightly coupled with the distribution. [14:20] (Okay, this is possibly ML material, but I don't really hang around in them much.. :-)) [14:21] zul: could you cover the amd64/printserver and amd64/postgresql ISO tests ? [14:21] ttx: yep [14:31] in fstab for lvm do you use /dev/lvm-raid/shares or the /dev/mapper device? [14:34] baffle: thanks, answered in #ubuntu-virt, though I will copy here for everyone else's benefit [14:34] nijaba: baffle: hi guys, I am familiar with netcf, i'm tracking its progress [14:34] nijaba: baffle: I'd very much like to see it packaged and used in Ubuntu in Maverick [14:34] nijaba: baffle: that's not a commitment, though [14:34] nijaba: baffle: but I will put together a spec [14:34] kirkland: Wunderbar (from #ubuntu-virt) [14:35] baffle: ;-) [14:35] baffle: what's your LP id? [14:35] baffle: i'll subscribe you to the blueprint (once I get around to writing it) [14:37] kirkland: Hmm. Either dag-stenstad, or dag.stenstad@ventelohosting.no or baffle. :-) Not sure wich is my ID, really. OpenID is https://launchpad.net/~dag-stenstad [14:37] baffle: cheers [14:40] kirkland: I'm so confused! Wich is my ID? :) [14:40] baffle: s/^.*~// [14:40] baffle: dag-stenstad [14:46] hi everybody! does anyone knows a channel for wxpython without the need to get a registry? [15:01] smoser: meeting time ? [15:01] (nm) [15:11] kirkland, where do we register our test results? also, sounds like UEC testings is high priority for lucid release. [15:12] osmosis: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [15:16] New bug: #494141 in samba (main) "CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494141 [15:26] kirkland, the oops... its the emulated scsi device [15:26] smoser: oh, is it? [15:26] smoser: well that's not a kernel thing then [15:27] yeah. i duped hggdh's to my bug that i'd previously opened on that. [15:27] searching for numbers [15:27] bug 564924 is dupe of bug 546458 [15:27] Launchpad bug 564924 in linux "UEC guest sometimes gets kernel OOPS (dup-of: 546458)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564924 [15:27] Launchpad bug 546458 in qemu-kvm "kernel NULL pointer in -virtual (-server) kernel" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546458 [16:12] hummm what am i looking for [16:12] !lucid [16:12] Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [16:13] not what i want either [16:13] anyone have a link to where i can get the beta 2 of ubuntu server [16:17] kirkland, smoser, ttx: fyi, I added an fd leak check to test-libvirt.py in QRT. it only tests start/destroy, but more can be added if needed [16:17] that will hopefully help moving forward [16:17] jdstrand: neat :-) [16:17] 8 days :D [16:18] RC tomorrow [16:18] eagles05138785: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ [16:18] ty guntbert [16:19] eagles05138785: you're welcome :-) [16:19] Jeeves_: would rather get it now and have something to install with then wait till release when everyone is fighting for a piece of lucid [16:19] fighting for a piece of the lynx haha [16:19] heh [16:19] * cloakable will wait a bit [16:20] team: need help on nfs client [16:20] cloakable: regardless of it being the beta u install with or the rc you still get the same updates [16:20] thanks again guntbert :) [16:20] My share is disconnected intermettenlt [16:20] y [16:20] need help on finding the casue [16:21] eagles05138785: Yeah, but I'd rather wait for stable, then the first round of updates to make sure it's stable :P [16:21] everyone to their own so i say hehe [16:21] eagles05138785: I'm allready running it for about 5 months [16:21] ya been on it since early alphas [16:21] since late alphas on my server early alphas on vm on my desktop running kubuntu [16:21] would rather do a clean install on my server then upgrading so i dont have any reminants of karmic around hehe [17:02] what have they improved in ubuntu server 10.4? [17:07] kirkland: really, eucalyptus is not doing garbage collection. Memory usage at the CC and CLC is still high, after 5+ hours of idling [17:07] kirkland: I noticed you said that you wanted to fix bug #562266 [17:07] Launchpad bug 562266 in libvirt "Make virt-pki-validate usable on Ubuntu" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/562266 [17:09] kirkland: fyi: ubuntu26 is already in the queue and it might be nice to fix bug #565380 in the process [17:09] jdstrand: what do you think? [17:09] Launchpad bug 565380 in libvirt "postinst fails if missing user is in the admin group" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565380 [17:09] I'm fine with fixing these things before release, cause it is easier than SRU, taking into account risk of regression, etc , etc [17:10] kirkland: 565380 is super low risk (we add an '|| true') [17:11] jdstrand: gotcha [17:11] jdstrand: sure, assign that to me, i'll do an upload that fixes those two [17:11] jdstrand: i'm doing an interview right nw [17:11] kirkland: mostly I just wanted to make sure you grabbed ubuntu26 before doing anything :) [17:11] jdstrand: of course ;-) [17:11] kirkland: k [17:11] jdstrand: you're welcome to snag those bugs if you like, too :-) [17:12] well, I meant to do the 565380, but forgot [17:12] as for the other, I don't know much about it tbh [17:29] Hey everyone, trying to get ubuntu server karmic netboot working but it says it cant find the ethernet driver. any way to manually add it to the boot img? [17:44] New bug: #567623 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.6.5-3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/567623 === Guest123456 is now known as Guest84312 [17:49] Where is the best tutorial for gdm over ssh ? [18:06] sabator: gdm over ssh? [18:06] or just X over ssh? [18:08] I am attempting to install courierauthlib from source because i would like some finer grain control over the options... configure runs ok, but afterwards when I try to make the app it craps out, and I could use some help interpreting the output.. [18:08] http://pastebin.com/avPiV9w4 [18:10] perhaps handle-exceptions? [18:10] I am trying to install Ubuntu-or-Debian server in a Xen Guest, on a non-Debian/Ubuntu Xen host. How/where do I tell the Debian Xen guest's installer to use a preseed file on an nfs volume? Some parameter at 'xm create ... install-extra="..."' &/or the Xen cfg's 'extra = ...' clause. [18:10] -f [18:10] So far, I've failed to get the guest to see the nfs mount. It *does* launchg the manual/interactive installer,though ... [18:11] bluethundr_: try to remove -fhandle-exceptions === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [18:16] RoyK: what is the best way to accomplish this? (i.e. remove -fhandle-exceptions) [18:17] bluethundr_: in /home/bluethundr/courier-authlib-0.63.0/gdbmobj/Makefile I guess === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [18:38] RoyK: that did it...thanks [18:51] kirkland, or ttx, how do i manually register an NC ? [18:51] it seems it didn't "just work". that might be because i re-installed it, but on the re-instal it didn't get registerd [18:53] never mind. it did. user error. === libertiy is now known as libertiy|away [19:11] Is there a channel for EUC ? [19:15] electro_: #ubuntu-could, but this one works as well [19:30] RoyK: are you running an EUC cloud? [19:31] electro_: no [19:31] electro_: I was looking into it, but it seems hard to make it truely redundant, so I guess we'll find another solution [19:32] <_Trullo> I installed ubuntu server, did apt-get install xinit , now when I startx a error message, xrdb command not found, X not merged [19:32] _Trullo: if you want X on your server, I'd say Ubuntu Desktop is a better way to start [19:33] there aren't really much difference between ubuntu server and desktop, just a few kernel changes, and you can install ubuntu server kernel later [19:33] <_Trullo> I just want X to work [19:33] gui on the server? [19:33] RoyK: what problems does it have with redundancy? [19:33] <_Trullo> probably won't be there anyway [19:33] RoyK: Im interested to see how it handles a master failure [19:33] electro_: there really isn't a good way to make the front-end redundant [19:33] yeah [19:34] Upgrading a server from 7.10 to 8.04, I copied the 8.04 sources.list, then did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade [19:35] however a lot of packges were "kept back" [19:35] Hypnoz: the right way is 'do-release-upgrade' [19:35] or is that just in newer distros? [19:35] That's in newer things. [19:35] ok [19:35] apt-get dist-upgrade? [19:35] But "newer" in this case appears to include 7.10 :) [19:36] hehe [19:37] Hypnoz: More of a concern is that do-release-upgrade appears to upgade you to the latest release (9.10 in this case). [19:37] RoyK: is there anything better you are testing? [19:37] persia: exactly, I didn't want to upgrade to the newest ubuntu release, just 8.04 LTS [19:37] electro_: we might be using xen or perhaps paying a lot for vmware [19:38] Hypnoz: apt-get dist-upgrade is probably safest (but I may be wrong). Once you have 8.04, you want to do do-release-upgrade to get to 10.04 (post release) [19:38] so I put that sources.list in and did apt-get upgrade [19:38] I don't want 10.04 [19:38] apt-get upgrade is too careful. [19:38] i want 8.04 LTS [19:38] apt-get dist-upgrade is a start [19:38] will dist-upgrade push me past 8.04? [19:38] Hypnoz: Right. Not now. Later. [19:39] do-release-upgrade takes you to the next (lts) release [19:39] Hypnoz: Use `apt-get dist-upgrade` for now. [19:39] Hypnoz: no [19:39] Hypnoz: it'll take you to the next lts [19:39] the last lts is 8.04 [19:39] ok [19:39] Hypnoz: Sometime between now and the release of 12.04, you'll find your life simpler if you later run do-release-upgrade to get to 10.04 LTS. You may want to wait up to two years for this. [19:39] but roll back your sources.list first [19:40] RoyK: Are you sure? I thought do-release-upgrade went to LTS only for LTS installs, so a 7.10 install would try repeated upgrades to get to 9.10. [19:40] RoyK: Im thinking you can do some sort of Active / Passive failover with the front-end [19:41] active [19:41] <_ruben> afaik, do-release-upgrade get you the next version, which by default is the next lts, but only for lts releases :) [19:41] persia: see /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades [19:41] RoyK: so is EUC pretty much a VM infrastructure? [19:41] RoyK: Ah, right. [19:41] Hypnoz: Check that file and make *sure* it has "Prompt=lts" [19:41] electro_: it is, but it contains a single point of failure, the front-end [19:42] Hypnoz: If that has prompt=lts, do-release-upgrade should bring you to 8.04 LTS (as long as you run it before 10.04 LTS releases) [19:42] persia: in sources.list? [19:42] electro_: so unless you use drbd+heartbeat or something for that, all your VMs will go down if that box dies [19:43] Hypnoz: In /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades [19:44] ttx: fyi, i walked smoser through his node registration issue privately [19:44] <_ruben> do-release-upgrade wont allow you to skip releases (except for lts to next lts), so 7.10 should never get upgraded to 10.04 directly, or 9.10 for that matter [19:45] persia: there is no /etc/update-manager.. [19:45] Ah, then 7.10 doesn't have that. [19:45] do-release-upgrade will also prompt you before it does anything. [19:45] Yeah, modify sources.list and run `apt-get dist-upgrade` then. [19:46] Pici: But does it let you decide to only update to 8.04 if you want? [19:46] kirkland: ack [19:46] RoyK: do you have any documentation stating this redundancy issue? I cant seem to google anything [19:46] wish apt-get dist-upgrade told me what dist it was going to upgrade to [19:46] electro_: it's pretty well known [19:46] <_ruben> also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20from%207.10%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20%28Recommended%29 [19:47] <_ruben> basically: install update manager, run update manager ;) [19:49] _ruben: now that i've replaced sources.list with 8.04's, and did apt-get upgrade, do-release-upgrade shows "No new release found" [19:49] _ruben: I think I would have had to do that first [19:49] and cat /etc/issue shows 8.04.4 LTS so the system is upgraded, it just held back a lot of packages for some reason [19:50] lsb_release -r [19:50] <_ruben> Hypnoz: editing your sources.list to a newer version + running upgrade instead of dist-upgrade is a recipe for disaster [19:50] Hypnoz: I think you need to dist-upgrade to get out of this state. `apt-get upgrade` is never enough to upgrade release-to-release. [19:50] <_ruben> Hypnoz: revert your sources.list and hope do-release-upgrade can fix the mess [19:50] RoyK: "Release: 8.04" [19:51] I don't think reversion is an option at this point: too much has been upgraded. [19:51] <_ruben> Hypnoz: or if feeling brave, run apt-get dist-upgrade and hope it wont break any further [19:51] <_ruben> when it does, you get to keep both/all pieces, though [19:51] Hypnoz: rebooted yet? [19:51] no i thought about that and doing another apt-get upgrade [19:51] Don't reboot! [19:52] And apt-get upgrade isn't going to help at this point. [19:52] It will not handle the transitions. [19:52] You need dist-upgrade for apt to do anything. [19:52] <_ruben> apt-get upgrade was never meant to change versions, that's what dist-upgrade was originally made for [19:52] do-release-upgrade might have worked, but ... [19:52] <_Trullo> is ctrl-alt-del disabled in ubuntu-server? :) [19:53] no [19:53] Just check the output when apt tells you want it plans to do very carefully. [19:53] don't think so [19:53] <_ruben> do-release-upgrade basically does a dist-upgrade, but has some extra tricks up its sleeve to handle known upgrade problems [19:53] <_ruben> _Trullo: not by default, but can be done [19:53] _Trullo: it was changed to ctrl+alt+shift+esc+backspace+f+u+v+m [19:53] persia: result of apt-get dist-upgrade http://dpaste.de/FRw9/ [19:54] Hypnoz: Y [19:54] <_Trullo> hehe [19:54] <_ruben> Hypnoz: looks sane to me [19:54] it doesn't tell me what release its going to put me at [19:54] Hypnoz: Looks reasonably safe to me: nothing is being removed. [19:54] <_ruben> (considering the circumstances) [19:54] Hypnoz: it doesn't [19:55] it could keep me at 8.04 or send me to 9.10 [19:55] 8.04 afaik [19:55] <_ruben> Hypnoz: dist-upgrade isnt gonna change releases for you, ever, not without you editing the sources.list [19:55] _ruben: didn't he change that? [19:55] yeah i put sources.list to 8.04 [19:55] <_ruben> RoyK: to 8.04 yes, so that's where he'll stick [19:55] Then dist-upgrade will take you to 8.04. [19:55] yeah [19:56] But next time you upgrade, please consider do-release-upgrade :) [19:56] <_ruben> (in a non-supported way though) [19:56] Right. [19:56] <_ruben> +1 [19:56] Well, we're kinda supporting it, but we offer no guarantee it won't break. [19:56] looked a little small amount of packages to take him all the way to 8.04, though [19:56] <_ruben> no guarantees for do-release-upgrade either afaik ;) [19:57] RoyK: a lot were upgraded in apt-get upgrade [19:57] RoyK: Remember, it'S post `apt-get upgrade`: this is just the leftover transition stuff. [19:57] final solution: install Windoze! [19:57] heh, no. [19:57] RoyK: haha [19:57] <_ruben> apt-get upgrade did the "safe" part .. dist-upgrade takes care of the more trickier parts [19:57] No, it's not that smart. It just does the unsafe parts. [19:58] apt-get upgrade takes you to the latest x.x.x, where dist-upgrade takes you to the latest x.x [19:58] But for this specific set of packages, it seems to be only removing an obsolete library, and an obsolete way of identifying storage devices. [19:58] <_ruben> RoyK: eh? [19:58] RoyK: Hrm? No. [19:58] as upgrade takes you to the latest 8.04.2 and dist-upgrade takes you from 8.04.2 to 8.04.3 [19:58] RoyK: safe-upgrade will never remove anything. dist-upgrade will. [19:58] seems like updating sources.list to 8.04 was correct, i should have just done dist-upgrade instead of upgrade [19:59] <_ruben> Hypnoz: not really ;) [19:59] <_ruben> install update-manager-core + running do-release-upgrade would've been correct ;) [19:59] upgrade also won't install new packages, such as kernel updates, where dist-upgrade will [19:59] <_ruben> or atleast the recommended approach [19:59] Hypnoz: Ideally you would have run do-release-upgrade, but yeah, *if* you've already fiddled your sources.list and want to upgrade with apt, dist-upgrade is the correct command. [20:00] qman__: Oh, new dependencies are blocked also? That makes sense. [20:00] <_ruben> correct [20:01] <_ruben> kernel upgrade without abi changes are taken care of by upgrade iirc [20:01] apt-get install windowsxp [20:03] sweet after dist-upgrade I'm at Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS \n \l [20:03] and apt-get upgrade shows "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded" [20:03] hooray for me not being fired! [20:03] ;) [20:04] <_ruben> Hypnoz: you got fairly lucky though ;) [20:04] <_ruben> apparently your set of installed packages isnt complex enough for dist-upgrade to fail ;) [20:04] <_ruben> (dist-upgrade with altered sources.list that is) [20:05] I guess, but dist-upgrade was made for this purpose [20:05] to have it not work would be silly [20:05] <_ruben> Hypnoz: its ancient and cant handle certain upgrades/packaging changes, that's why do-release-upgrade was invented, to work around those issues [20:06] _ruben: sounds good i'll keep it in mind next time [20:07] Hypnoz: You really should have an /etc/update-manager directory now. [20:07] You're running 8.04, but you really want "Prompt=lts" in there if you want to be running 8.04 LTS. [20:08] Just so the next upgrade is really to 10.04 LTS, and not to something else. [20:08] (not that this is going to happen anytime soon) [20:08] 10.04 LTS won't happen within the next 6 months? [20:09] Hypnoz: More like next week Thursday. [20:10] The release is the 29th, but as you're just upgrading from 7.10 today, I'm guessing you won't plan on upgrade to 10.04 for a bit :) [20:10] Hypnoz: *upgrading* from 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS should be automatically enabled in July when 10.04.1 (the first point release) is released [20:11] Hypnoz: note that upgrading from 8.04 LTS is already possible (and suggested) [20:11] Hypnoz: the end user is not automatically offered the choice yet [20:11] <_ruben> mathiaz: not quite following you here, what exactly will change at 10.04.1 ? [20:12] _ruben: when you open update-manager and you've configured your system to only upgrade from LTS to LTS, you'll only see a message stating that there is a new release available around 10.04.1 [20:13] <_ruben> mathiaz: ahh ok [20:13] <_ruben> sounds sane enough :) [20:13] _ruben: people running karmic will see a message that a new release is available as soon as 10.04 is available [20:13] <_ruben> also sane enough :) [20:13] ok. google is fialing me. is there a way to preseed an apt-get upgrade ? i know that it is going to prompt for 2 questions. 'grub2/linux_cmdline' for example. [20:14] is there a way to feed my answer , like preseed install, but for apt or dpkg [20:14] smoser: debconf-set-selections [20:14] smoser: Sure. You can preseed any debconf value. [20:14] thats what i wanted. debconf-set-selections. thank you mathiaz [20:14] thanks persia [20:15] smoser: that should work for most of the packages [20:15] smoser: some packages might reset the debconf database [20:15] `echo "buildd shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1 boolean true" | debconf-set-selections` is the trick we used to use in schroots to build Java stuff. [20:15] smoser: but that's a corner case [20:16] mathiaz: Isn't that typically a bug? [20:16] persia: yeah - I agree [20:16] persia: I haven't seen this though [20:16] persia: It would be possible - but I agree it should be a bug [20:17] mathiaz: I know a package that does it, but it's not possible to install an Ubuntu system without that package, and that package has a well-documented way to preseed the values it doesn't reset. [20:17] But I'd *really* not like to see that used for packages that didn't meet that set of criteria :) [20:17] persia: which package are you refering to? [20:17] console-setup [20:18] It rests *part* of its debconf stuff while doing discovery against it's (documented) preseeding. [20:22] I'm attempting to use LDAP for client authentication. How can I get local users to have the proper groups, and possibly slightly different on a client-to-client basis? I looked at /etc/security/group.conf, but it apparently only supports NIS netgroups, and not LDAP groups. [20:32] jdstrand: where can i get libvirt-*ubuntu26 from? [20:33] jdstrand: i was going to prepare ubuntu27 fixing those two bugs [20:33] kirkland: unapproved [20:33] jdstrand: got it [20:34] Hi all [20:34] i need some help with installing LAMP [20:35] ive just configured the ftp server however i noticed my apache isnt starting up [20:35] <_ruben> ftp isnt a standard part of lamp usualy ;) [20:36] Yeah :) [20:37] Dr_Alien: what errors do you find in apache's logs? [20:37] Cant see any logs currently bert. [20:37] im a newbie at ssh commands :( [20:37] <_ruben> tail -30 /var/log/apache2/error.log [20:38] Dr_Alien: /var/log/apache2 should contain some [20:38] tail: cannot open `/var/log/apache2/error.log' for reading: No such file or directory [20:38] reimaging my server 1 sec. (on a cloud) [20:40] i used this command. [20:40] sudo tasksel install lamp-server [20:40] kirkland: cool, thanks :) [20:41] anyone in the boston area [20:42] <_ruben> Dr_Alien: that's supposed to give you a working lamp stack, then again, havent used that "task" for quite some time [20:42] Ok its up now.. [20:42] any easy way of installing a ftp serveR? [20:42] server* [20:43] i want to put html files up to my server quickier than editing them in vi. [20:44] <_ruben> i tend to use pure-ftpd, but others might have different preferences like vsftpd or proftpd [20:44] <_ruben> or even better: scp/sftp [20:44] anyone assist me with a UEC install that I am trying to do [20:45] Ok [20:45] Could you help me install this? [20:45] im a total newbie at installations lol [20:46] well I am just trying to set it up right [20:47] <_ruben> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html [20:47] hmm interesting [20:47] ok [20:47] [20:47] /usr/sbin/vsftpd already running. [20:47] [fail] [20:47] What would the default FTP username and password be? [20:48] and what could i do to change the username and password [20:48] jdstrand: can you give this little patch an eyeball? http://paste.ubuntu.com/420015/ [20:48] jdstrand: i think it's better (simpler) than the bug reporter's [20:48] jdstrand: and I think we can get it upstream [20:48] jdstrand: a) instead of changing every line that uses $SYSCONFDIR, just set it if unset [20:48] Status: Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server". [20:48] jdstrand: b) change \t to \s* to handle any leading whitespace [20:48] Error: Could not connect to server [20:49] RoyK: Do you have a link that explains the Redundancy issue? [20:49] jdstrand: c) fix the bashism, rather than changing interpretters [20:49] jdstrand: opinion? [20:50] <_ruben> Dr_Alien: by default it most likely uses the same credentials as your local/ssh login [20:50] Ok Thanks [20:50] and what about the port number? [20:51] <_ruben> i'd guess 21, but you can check with netstat -lnt [20:52] Ok [20:52] its saying only annoymas connections can be done [20:52] Response: 530 This FTP server is anonymous only [20:54] <_ruben> read the "User Authenticated FTP Configuration" section [20:55] jdstrand: updated, http://paste.ubuntu.com/420019/ [20:55] jdstrand: part of this is fixed upstream already, part of it isn't [20:55] would/should a mounted raid array cause the drive that it is mounted on to show as being "full"? [20:55] where Ruben? [20:56] _ruben where would i find that? [20:57] Any recommendations on a server 'panel' like cPanel? [20:57] <_ruben> Dr_Alien: the url i pasted earlier [20:57] kirkland: did you test it? does @SYSCONFDIR@ get properly replaced? [20:58] kirkland: otherwise that last paste seems fine [20:58] jdstrand: going to test, but that's what's currently upstream [20:58] jdstrand: otherwise, see my first paste; that's guaranteed to work :-) [20:59] kirkland: yeah-- I just don't know if the autoconf bits are in 0.7.5 for that file [20:59] jdstrand: i'll test [20:59] I saw :) [20:59] kirkland: if it works as desired, go with it, otherwise your first attempt seems fine for lucid [20:59] Ok, how do you save files in nano? [21:00] jdstrand: i've rebased the patch against git and will submit upstream too [21:00] kirkland: excellent [21:00] <_ruben> Dr_Alien: ctrl+o .. it says so at the bottom of the screen [21:00] <_ruben> anyway im off to bed [21:00] tc and thanks! [21:01] jdstrand: do you care what i number this patch? [21:01] jdstrand: 9023 is "next" [21:01] jdstrand: is that okay? [21:02] kirkland: 9023 is just fine-- the 9xxx are Ubuntu only [21:02] sry my irc froze, so im gonna ask again... would/should a raid array show the drive it is mounted to as being full? [21:02] kirkland: before uploading, hold on a sec [21:03] Ok, what would people say is the default password for FTP server? [21:03] password bahahahaha [21:03] jdstrand: sure thing [21:03] jdstrand: debdiff is currently http://paste.ubuntu.com/420024/ [21:03] jdstrand: i'm about to pbuild now [21:09] anyone know about the raid? [21:09] kirkland: actually, there is a another thing you should change [21:09] kirkland: echo make sure the gnutls-utils package is installed [21:09] kirkland: that should be gnutls-bin on Ubuntu [21:09] kirkland: (and Debian) [21:10] jdstrand: ga-noodles! [21:10] kirkland: obviously not at all critical, but if inclined, since you are already in there, it would be nice [21:10] hehe [21:12] jdstrand: [21:12] echo "Could not locate the certtool program" [21:12] echo "make sure the gnutls-utils (or gnutls-bin) package is installed" [21:12] sure [21:12] jdstrand: hoping that wording might allow this to go upstream too [21:13] * jdstrand nods [21:13] jdstrand: cool [21:16] kirkland: that sed line is not quite right for our version of certtoll [21:16] certtool [21:16] jdstrand: okay? [21:16] should/would a raid array that is partially filled show the disk (filesystem) as full? [21:16] kirkland: eg-- the sed looks for: [21:16] Issuer: CN=Red Hat Emerging Technologies [21:17] but our certool does something like: [21:17] Issuer: C=US,ST=TX,...,CN=example.com,... [21:19] jdstrand: okay, so what should the sed look like? [21:19] working on it [21:20] jdstrand: okay, i'm testing the autoconf change [21:20] kirkland: sed 's+\s*Issuer: .*CN=\(.*\),.*+\1+' [21:20] jdstrand: cool, thanks, i'll jam that in [21:20] kirkland: that should work for both formats [21:21] kirkland: I can make that slightly better I think [21:21] (I don't like the ',' business [21:21] ) [21:21] jdstrand: and still maintain RH compatibility? [21:21] jdstrand: essential for getting this upstream [21:21] kirkland: of course [21:22] jdstrand: /me likes the way you said "of course" [21:22] heh [21:25] Trying to patch and recompile a PAM module, pam_group. Downloaded the sources, ./configure && make, but I don't have any *.so files - just *.la and *.lo . What am I missing? [21:31] make install ? [21:34] jdstrand: fyi, i had to fix the SYSCONFDIR a little better [21:35] jdstrand: it can't work at all, in the way that upstream ships it [21:35] jdstrand: ie, $(SYSCONFDIR) can't evaluate [21:37] should/would a raid array that is partially filled show the disk (filesystem) as full? [21:37] kirkland: *sigh* [21:38] jdstrand: anyway, am i still awaiting your magic sed? [21:38] kirkland: I tried for a while to use a single sed, but had to punt and do two: [21:38] sed 's+\s*Issuer: .*CN=++' | sed 's+,EMAIL=.*++' [21:38] kirkland: feel free to play with it, but it is eluding me [21:38] jdstrand: can't that be: sed -e 's+\s*Issuer: .*CN=++' -e 's+,EMAIL=.*++' [21:38] kirkland: I need to get back to iso testing :) [21:38] jdstrand: You know you can just ... [21:38] kirkland: Yeah what kirkland just said :) [21:39] * kirkland high fives soren [21:39] is -e portable? [21:39] I believe it is. [21:39] feel free to use -e and float it upstream then [21:39] jdstrand: hmm, i use it a lot now in byobu, which people have running on dozens of distros and even OSX [21:39] At least the docs don't say it's a GNU thing, which I find they're usually pretty good at when that's the case. [21:40] jdstrand: ie, i get complaints about shell portability, but that hasn't been one i've heard [21:40] k [21:40] sed -e 's+\s*Issuer: .*CN=++' -e 's+,EMAIL=.*++' [21:40] ^ confirmed to work with both redhat and us [21:40] jdstrand: Error: "confirmed" is not a valid command. [21:41] kirkland: ^ confirmed to work with both redhat and us [21:41] jdstrand: rock [21:41] jdstrand: and i confirmed that autoconf did it's thing [21:42] kirkland: you might want to mention that this works with gnutls 2.8.5 specifically [21:44] kirkland, soren: incidentally, what I really wanted to do is a single regex. that is what was eluding me :\ === libertiy is now known as libertiy|away [21:54] jdstrand: here's what i'm sending upstream http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/420045/ [21:57] jdstrand: okay, i'm firing off an upload, and the upstream patch [21:59] kirkland: sounds good, thanks [21:59] though that regex was a group effort :) [22:01] jdstrand: ;-) [22:02] should/would a raid array that is partially filled show the disk (filesystem) as full? [22:15] hmmm [22:20] hola a todos [22:21] hello === libertiy|away is now known as libertiy [22:28] should/would a raid array that is partially filled show the disk (filesystem) as full? [22:28] should/would a raid array that is partially filled show the disk (filesystem) as full? [22:29] oops [22:31] I wouldn't think so. What are you using to view? df ? === libertiy is now known as libertiy|away [23:14] When I lose contact with my ubuntu server at the colo, I have to call the colo and ask for a reset. Is there any way for me to diagnos the cause of the system outage? Appears to be a crash, but without console access before the reboot...i have no idea what the cause is. [23:15] osmosis, what country you in? [23:15] flyback, usa [23:15] ah is it your own physical server? [23:15] flyback, yes [23:16] you might want to consider one of these if you can spare a pci slot and can hold a full length [23:16] flyback, are you gonna say IPMI ? [23:16] http://webdevsys.com/lightsOut.htm [23:16] yeah [23:16] well not ipmi necessarily [23:17] is it a brand name box [23:17] flyback, i actually have an IPMI card..but i cant configure it because its not supported by ubuntu hardy kernel. Once i upgrade to lucid, it will likely be supported. [23:17] actually [23:17] you should be able to use the card anyways [23:17] it should have it's own cpu, ram etc [23:18] you just won't be able to monitor hw resources or console [23:18] but you would be able to power cycle or reboot [23:18] also if it has a virtual serial port on it you could tell the console to use that [23:18] console=ttyS1,38400 [23:18] etc [23:19] also if you configure it to support acpi power button event and you configure your linux to reboot if some tapes the power button [23:19] should all be possibly without needing a direct driver [23:20] anyways.... just some ideas [23:22] AAAAAAAAA [23:22] brb [23:22] * flyback goes to numb his dying tooth [23:33] smoser: hi! [23:33] hi [23:33] smoser: I'm trying to detach a device using virsh [23:33] smoser: and run into the following issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/420077/ [23:34] mathiaz, i dont know. i haven't tried using virsh to detach. [23:34] i've tested in kvm in the console [23:34] smoser: how do you detach usually? [23:34] and with eucalyptus [23:35] i rarely use libvirt [23:35] jdstrand: I'm trying to detach a device using virsh [23:35] jdstrand: and run into the following issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/420077/ [23:35] mathiaz, so, eucalyptusdoes do this [23:36] other than its not virtio [23:36] its scsi [23:36] so that could actually be the difference [23:36] smoser: right - that being said I'm using an older version of libvirt [23:36] smoser: so the lucid version of libvirt may be fixed [23:36] oh, then easy answer [23:36] upgrade [23:36] :) [23:36] smoser: :) [23:38] mathiaz, but basically it woudl appear to be a bug in the libvirt screen scraping / expectation of kvm [23:39] smoser: libvirt screen scraping? [23:39] libvirt screenscrapes kvm console [23:39] s/console/monitor/ [23:39] err... whatever its called [23:39] the thing that you would type into if you didn't use libvirt [23:41] Does it really reinterpret SDL output, or does it tell KVM to provide a text stream? [23:42] well it doesn't do graphics to text [23:42] it gets a text stream [23:42] but it still 'scrapes' [23:42] ie, the output changes, its not an api to kvm [23:46] in the topic, doc and resources link says http://tinyurl.com/ubuntuserv but tinyurl says it can't find sites url to redirect to [23:49] jrwren: I believe it may have pointed to: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/index.html previously