| charlie-tca | bbl | 00:06 |
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| slangasek | is there anyone left on-line who's able to test wubi at all? | 01:02 |
| colorlessprism | i cannot...sorry | 01:02 |
| slangasek | I can't verify this claim that wubi isn't on the Xubuntu CDs, so I also can't fix it | 01:02 |
| slangasek | edubuntu respin posted | 05:29 |
| ara_ | morning all | 06:26 |
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| * slangasek waves | 06:28 | |
| ara_ | hey slangasek | 06:28 |
| * ara_ starts her day covering a couple of ubuntu studio test cases | 06:33 | |
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| === Ubot-Tn is now known as MaWaLe | ||
| sbeattie | ara: do you know what's up with the iso tracker? It's not updating bug information again. | 07:26 |
| ara | sbeattie, no idea, but I'll fire a manual update | 07:26 |
| ara | sbeattie, thanks for the heads-up | 07:27 |
| ara | sbeattie, updating it now. I will try to investigate why is not doing it automatically | 07:30 |
| sbeattie | well, at least some bugs were missing; at least one that I know I entered hours ago. | 07:32 |
| ara | sbeattie, can you check now that bug, please? | 07:35 |
| sbeattie | ara: cool beans, it's updated now. | 07:36 |
| ara | sbeattie, ok, thanks | 07:36 |
| primes2h | ara: morning :-) | 08:27 |
| ara | good morning primes2h | 08:27 |
| primes2h | Thank you for adding dtchen suggestion on blueprint | 08:27 |
| ara | primes2h, np | 08:27 |
| primes2h | ara: It'll be a nice proposal to be discussed at UDS, together with "fuzzy" matrix and the possible hwdb sinergy | 08:31 |
| primes2h | but no more clue now. ;-) | 08:32 |
| ara | :) | 08:32 |
| ara | I think that hwdb synergies with testing is going to be a trendy topic during uds-m | 08:33 |
| slangasek | ara: is your bug #567306 the same as bug #558382? | 08:42 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 567306 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Error in auto-resize partitions (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/567306 | 08:42 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 558382 in partman-base (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Partitioner throws "Unable to satisfy all constraints" when trying to use previously created partitions (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/558382 | 08:42 |
| slangasek | (i.e., is the error message the same?) | 08:42 |
| * ara checks | 08:42 | |
| ara | slangasek, yes | 08:45 |
| slangasek | ok | 08:45 |
| ara | slangasek, you can mark mine as dup | 08:45 |
| ara | thanks! | 08:45 |
| ara | mvo, software-center 2.x is looking great :) | 09:00 |
| mvo | ara: excellent! | 09:00 |
| kermiac | slangasek: I just downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20100419/lucid-desktop-i386.iso wubi is working as expected (in win7 vm) | 09:03 |
| slangasek | kermiac: right, and those are the same images that were posted for xubuntu validation to begin with, so I really don't know what charlie-tca and davmor2 were talking about | 09:04 |
| kermiac | slangasek: I don't know either - seems to be ok for me http://imgbin.org/images/1477.jpg | 09:10 |
| slangasek | kermiac: I guess you're not in a position to test that wubi works, though? | 10:02 |
| slangasek | i.e., do a full install test for the RC | 10:03 |
| kermiac | I can do in about an hour or so if that would help.... I just finished with a couple of bugs I was working on | 10:05 |
| kermiac | slangasek: are there testcases on the tracker? I don't usually test wubi | 10:06 |
| slangasek | kermiac: yep, test cases under each of the desktop ISOs | 10:06 |
| slangasek | if you can test, that would certainly be a help | 10:06 |
| kermiac | slangasek: ok, I found the wubi testcases. I'll try to do a couple as soon as I get the kids off to bed ;) | 10:11 |
| slangasek | cheers :) | 10:17 |
| davmor2 | morning all | 10:50 |
| davmor2 | did xubuntu get respun to pull in wubi or not? | 10:50 |
| ara | davmor2, apparently it was already there, at least that what slangasek and kermiac said | 10:53 |
| davmor2 | ara: I wonder why it isn't on the cd then | 10:54 |
| ara | davmor2, no idea | 10:55 |
| ara | davmor2, backlog: | 10:55 |
| ara | <kermiac> slangasek: I just downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20100419/lucid-desktop-i386.iso wubi is working as expected (in win7 vm) | 10:55 |
| ara | <slangasek> kermiac: right, and those are the same images that were posted for xubuntu validation to begin with, so I really don't know what charlie-tca and davmor2 were talking about | 10:55 |
| slangasek | davmor2: it *is* on the CD | 10:56 |
| slangasek | and both sbeattie and kermiac have confirmed that autorun correctly brings up the menu for them | 10:57 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: Meh and yet on the image I had yesterday it wasn't and was confirmed by charlie_tca | 10:58 |
| slangasek | davmor2: what image was that? | 10:58 |
| davmor2 | Xubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" - Release Candidate amd64 (20100419) | 10:59 |
| davmor2 | is the info | 10:59 |
| slangasek | davmor2: ok - how have you determined that wubi isn't on the CD? | 11:01 |
| davmor2 | it didn't autorun on vista and there is no wubi.exe on the disk | 11:02 |
| slangasek | what are you using to check if wubi.exe is on the disk? | 11:02 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: I'm just looking http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1478 | 11:04 |
| slangasek | and do other 10.04 RC CDs autorun correctly on this exact Windows instance? | 11:04 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: all the others have passed wubi | 11:04 |
| davmor2 | only xubuntu | 11:04 |
| davmor2 | mind you looking it's missing the autorun too | 11:04 |
| slangasek | this is burned to a CD, or on a USB stick? | 11:05 |
| slangasek | (or a loop-mounted ISO?) | 11:05 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: cd | 11:05 |
| slangasek | I only have the i386 image downloaded here, because charlie-tca said it affected both - do you have i386 handy? | 11:06 |
| slangasek | I'd like to have us both working from the same image to debug | 11:06 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: I have both isos downloaded and I see wubi.exe and autorun.inf on both. | 11:07 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: I'll do a fresh burn and see if it is on the new burn | 11:08 |
| slangasek | that would be very strange if a burn issue would cause it to not appear | 11:08 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: I know but at least it's one more thing got rid off | 11:10 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: can you do "sha256sum -c SHA256SUMS.lucid-desktop" in your xubuntu iso directory? | 11:10 |
| slangasek | I'm in the process of burning to disk here, to check whether nautilus shows autorun and wubi when mounting a CD vs. mounting a loopback device | 11:10 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: ok ok | 11:12 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: it's on now | 11:14 |
| slangasek | after reburning? | 11:14 |
| davmor2 | yeap | 11:14 |
| slangasek | wacky | 11:15 |
| davmor2 | yeap | 11:15 |
| davmor2 | I'll ask charlie_tca to reburn and see if it fixes it for him too, in the mean time I'll get this wubi tested | 11:16 |
| kermiac | http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopWubi | 11:40 |
| kermiac | doing the cd boot helper... | 11:40 |
| kermiac | step 7 | 11:40 |
| kermiac | actually step 8 - I don't get a live environment - it ends up at "where are you" first step of the installation process | 11:41 |
| kermiac | this is in a vm - could it be vm related? | 11:41 |
| kermiac | davmor2: any idea mate? you do a lot of wubi tests, right? | 11:43 |
| davmor2 | might be vm hang on a second | 11:45 |
| * kermiac is hanging on | 11:45 | |
| kermiac | :) | 11:45 |
| davmor2 | kermiac: right I'll double check on my next run but I'm not having any issues here on hardware | 11:47 |
| kermiac | davmor2: ok, I think it id probably a vmware issue - everything else checks out ok. thanks mate | 11:47 |
| kermiac | s/id/is | 11:47 |
| ara | I will start now testing netboot installation on i386, let see how it goes | 11:48 |
| ara | my internet connection is being a bit slow these days | 11:49 |
| ara | I am afraid I won't be able to cover netboot installations | 11:53 |
| ara | indeed, the connection is too slow for it | 11:53 |
| ara | I will cover edubuntu i386 now | 11:53 |
| ara | I like edubuntu's wall paper :) | 11:57 |
| mote | HI: Question. If i want to make a laptop test report. Do i have to edit the html codes on the "Testing/Laptop/Reports" page in order for anyone to use it? | 12:01 |
| davmor2 | kermiac: do me a quick favour double check that the vm is mounting the cd still | 12:04 |
| kermiac | after rebooting (step 7) it wasn't. the vm disconnected the cd drive. I manually connected it & that's when it went into the installer | 12:06 |
| davmor2 | kermiac: and it looks like it is missing the try me screen on the installer | 12:07 |
| davmor2 | if you hit quit though it will go to desktop | 12:07 |
| kermiac | davmor2: yup. quitting spits me back to the desktop | 12:08 |
| kermiac | davmor2: yup. quitting spits me back to the desktop | 12:08 |
| kermiac | oops - lag | 12:08 |
| davmor2 | :) | 12:08 |
| kermiac | davmor2: are you seeing similar things or is it just a vm issue? I don't have windows installed on hardware at home to verify | 12:09 |
| davmor2 | here I get the xubuntu grub entry then it boots from cd correctly and then goes straight into the installer rather than the option screen yes | 12:10 |
| kermiac | ok, that's what is happening for me after I manually connect the cd drive to the vm | 12:11 |
| davmor2 | I'm just quizzing one of the devs about it | 12:12 |
| kermiac | I'm also having (probably vm issues) with the Wubi Stand Alone Desktop Install (Windows Side) | 12:12 |
| kermiac | It all goes fine & d/l the iso... then right at the end it say it can't find the log - i think it said the installer log | 12:13 |
| davmor2 | I'll have a look after main concern right now is the cds so I'll test that first | 12:14 |
| kermiac | yup, ok :) Should i update the tracker yet with any info or hold off for a bit? | 12:15 |
| mote | HI: Question. If i want to make a laptop test report. Do i have to edit the html codes on the "Testing/Laptop/Reports" page in order for anyone to use it? | 12:17 |
| kermiac | mote: I don't believe so. I just created a new wiki page & then copied the template when I created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Reports/HPPavilionDM3-1011TU | 12:19 |
| kermiac | I didn't edit any html | 12:20 |
| mote | Kermiac: the i just cant seem to understand what to do. | 12:20 |
| ara | if I find several inconsistencies in edubuntu's slideshow, which package should I file the bug against? | 12:22 |
| ara | any idea? | 12:22 |
| mote | Kermaic: this passage here "Hit the upper left edit link and create a new entry adding your WikiName with the @SIG@ macro, edition you are testing and link to the new laptop report." what does it mean then? | 12:22 |
| kermiac | ara: ubiquity? | 12:23 |
| persia | I don't see a handy ubiquity-slideshow-edubuntu package :( Maybe ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (if there aren't customisations)? | 12:23 |
| ara | I'll ask in ubuntu-installer | 12:23 |
| kermiac | mote: yes, that confused me a bit too | 12:23 |
| kermiac | mote: what model laptop do you want to setup a page for? | 12:23 |
| mote | Asus eee 1005p | 12:24 |
| mote | kermiac: Asus eee 1005p - sorry | 12:24 |
| kermiac | mote: for which release karmic, lucid, etc? | 12:24 |
| mote | Kermaic lucid beta 2. but maybe i should wait for RC ? | 12:25 |
| kermiac | mote, no it's fine - the template that I used has room for the alphas, betas, RC & stable | 12:26 |
| mote | ok | 12:26 |
| mote | kermiac: How did you do it? | 12:27 |
| slangasek | persia, ara: the edubuntu slideshow is in the edubuntu-artwork package | 12:27 |
| ara | slangasek, thanks | 12:28 |
| kermiac | mote: just goto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Reports/AsusEee1005P in your browser - this should create the new page for you | 12:28 |
| mote | kermiac: So is just type in the url and i get the template page? | 12:29 |
| ara | slangasek, by the way, the test that I marked as Started in netboot is not valid anymore (I was having bandwidth issues and I had to stop it) | 12:29 |
| slangasek | ok | 12:30 |
| kermiac | mote: pm so I stop cluttering the channel? | 12:30 |
| stgraber | morning everyone | 13:19 |
| stgraber | starting to test Edubuntu amd64 here | 13:19 |
| kermiac | davmor2: I'm updating the xubuntu wubi testing info before I head off to bed, should I select passed or failed? I will add notes explaining why | 13:24 |
| kermiac | but I'm unsure which to select as I was testing in vm & had issues with 2 out of 4 tests | 13:26 |
| ara | morning stgraber | 13:29 |
| kermiac | hey ara, have you read the backlog where davmor2 & I were discussing wubi? should i select passed or failed? I want to update before going to bed | 13:30 |
| ara | kermiac, have you filed a bug? | 13:37 |
| davmor2 | kermiac: it might not be a bug currently talking with ev about it | 13:37 |
| kermiac | ara: no, davmor2 was getting in touch with one of the devs. ok, so that means i will have to mark as passed & just add the notes | 13:38 |
| ara | kermiac, ok, thanks | 13:38 |
| kermiac | ok, ty ara & davmor2 :) | 13:38 |
| kermiac | goodnight all | 13:40 |
| ara | kermiac, good night | 13:46 |
| mgj | So i want to get in on the 10.04 action. I was told that a lot had been changed since the beta2 iso, and that i should use the daily iso instead. However, i also heard rumours about "stuff" being broken in the daily iso. Anyone care to comment on that? | 14:02 |
| ara | mgj, we are testing now candidate images for RC | 14:22 |
| ara | mgj, they seem pretty stable | 14:22 |
| ara | mgj, you can find information at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com | 14:22 |
| * ara -> lunch | 14:23 | |
| mgj | ara: thanks | 14:29 |
| davmor2 | kermiac, ara: just to keep you in the loop I'm testing a new wubi version for xubuntu apparently it's recieving the wrong call type and starting in automatic mode and shouldn't be. | 15:28 |
| ara | davmor2, ok, thanks for the heads-up | 15:29 |
| ara | kermiac, does it affect other flavours? | 15:29 |
| ara | davmor2, ^ | 15:30 |
| davmor2 | ara: it won't effect ubuntu because of the welcome screen but might effect kubuntu | 15:30 |
| davmor2 | haven't looked yet | 15:30 |
| ara | davmor2, ok | 15:30 |
| ara | davmor2, are we respining desktops in that case? | 15:30 |
| slangasek | no | 15:31 |
| davmor2 | it might just be a fix for final but needs to be fixed for then | 15:31 |
| davmor2 | and slangasek says no | 15:31 |
| charlie-tca | hmmm, need some one to verify here. After testing 64bit images, my swap partitions were marked as 'unknown' for file type. Can somebody with 64bit hardware verify? | 17:06 |
| fader_ | charlie-tca: Is this on vanilla Ubuntu? | 17:06 |
| charlie-tca | it was xubuntu | 17:06 |
| charlie-tca | no changes after install | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca | I used gparted to check them when they did not show in /etc/fstab | 17:07 |
| fader_ | Let me make sure I have the latest xubuntu ISO and I'll spin one up | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca | T%hanks | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca | fader_: the last install I did was manual partitioning | 17:09 |
| fader_ | charlie-tca: Cool, I will try manual as well then | 17:11 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 17:11 |
| fader_ | No problem :) | 17:11 |
| fader_ | charlie-tca: It looks good to me -- firing up 'free' after boot shows that my swap partition is mounted and being used | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks. Must be something stupid I did then | 17:18 |
| fader_ | And the partitions show up as 'swap' in fdisk | 17:18 |
| fader_ | Heh | 17:18 |
| fader_ | Cosmic rays :) | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca | Testing with the system in use? | 17:19 |
| * ara takes a break until next meeting | 17:20 | |
| fader_ | charlie-tca: Not sure what you mean... | 17:21 |
| charlie-tca | I had two drives, one I use everyday, the other I did the test installs on. Maybe that is not such a great idea | 17:21 |
| fader_ | Ahhh... heh | 17:22 |
| fader_ | Yeah, that sounds like a quick trip to the land of "wait, I formatted *what*?!" | 17:22 |
| charlie-tca | since all the swap partitions disappeared on me | 17:22 |
| charlie-tca | ;-) | 17:22 |
| charlie-tca | done that too | 17:22 |
| davmor2 | kermiac: I was told to file a bug in the end so it is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/567969 so you can add it to your report | 17:52 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 567969 in wubi "Wubi's help boot cd options goes to ubiquity automatic (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:52 |
| sbeattie | mvo: dare I ask what the prognosis is on bug 566584? | 18:03 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 566584 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "unpack/configure order violation triggered by OOo pre-depends (affects: 9) (dups: 3) (heat: 60)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566584 | 18:04 |
| mvo | sbeattie: I have a plan and a possible fix, that "just" needs to be tested carefully and then uploaded | 18:08 |
| sbeattie | how can I help? it's blocking at least some karmic->lucid upgrades. | 18:09 |
| mvo | sbeattie: hm, not easy, let me think about it over dinner, putting it in a ppa and making the upgrader not comment unknown sources might be a fix | 18:11 |
| sbeattie | mvo: okay. | 18:12 |
| mvo | sbeattie: eh, a good way to help I mean | 18:14 |
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| mdlueck | Tap tap... hello, I discovered that mkfs.xfs is missing in today's ISO, suspect it has been missing for a week or so since I have no been able to use XFS in my Lucid testing. Anyone aware of this? | 19:22 |
| mdlueck | I logged it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/568024 | 19:37 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 568024 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "xfsprogs missing from install / live CD, can not use XFS during installation (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] | 19:37 |
| sbeattie | mdlueck: is that only on the live cd or alternate as well? | 19:57 |
| sbeattie | (and bugger, I thought we'd sorted those out before) | 19:57 |
| mdlueck | sbeattie: I have not pulled an alt nor server CD image | 19:58 |
| mdlueck | sbeattie: Ja, important for ALL flavours | 19:58 |
| sbeattie | mdlueck: do you use xfs regularly? | 19:59 |
| sbeattie | mdlueck: the reason I ask is I was wondering if you've seen any performance issues with it. | 20:00 |
| mdlueck | sbeattie: Yes indeed!!! ext something for /boot, all others xfs | 20:00 |
| mdlueck | grub used to have problems booting from xfs, thus the reason for a separate /boot partition formatted ext something... someday I will retest that grub issue... someday... | 20:01 |
| mdlueck | lilo boots from xfs just fine | 20:01 |
| sbeattie | we've found, informally, zsync'ing isos onto an xfs partition, the initial check of an existing iso took an order of magnitude longer on xfs than ext[34], and I was wondering if you saw similar issues on reads of large files like that. | 20:02 |
| mdlueck | xfs is good for very large files, dirs with many files in them, has built-in ACL support, comes with storage management utilities... can't go wrong | 20:02 |
| sbeattie | hrm, I wonder if zsync is just choosing an unfortunate blocksize or something. | 20:03 |
| mdlueck | zsync is a new toy to me, just discovered it during Lucid testing. Slicker than pulling down entire ISO images, so I am quite pleased compared to the prior method | 20:03 |
| mdlueck | the default block size or something could be a bit larger, but I am too lazy to go through the hassle of manually formatting to get the better size param | 20:05 |
| mdlueck | I recall an old KLUG presentation on XFS that showed a WOW performance improvement by tweaking one param during formatting. | 20:05 |
| mdlueck | Always wanted to come up with a way to have that number be the standard... not up to forking the Ubuntu project, though! ;-) | 20:06 |
| mikkelgj | I just installed the 10.04 beta2, and it correctly identified my nvidia video card. However, i get an error when trying to install the restricted drivers: http://pastebin.com/xe0Wp3pk | 22:09 |
| mikkelgj | Why would cause that file to not exist? | 22:09 |
| mikkelgj | what* | 22:09 |
| sbeattie | bdmurray: do you know how to kick off an update of the bug info sync on iso.qa.ubuntu.com? It again appears to have fallen behind. | 22:22 |
| bdmurray | sbeattie: the last I knew was it required IS to massage it | 22:29 |
| sbeattie | bdmurray: hrm, ara managed to kick it this morning... | 22:30 |
| bdmurray | sbeattie: well my knowledge might be out of date ;-) | 22:30 |
| sbeattie | heh. And by this morning, I meant late last night. | 22:30 |
| bdmurray | sbeattie: if its important I could try and poke around and see if I can figure it out | 22:31 |
| * sbeattie steps away for a break | 22:35 | |
| bruce_ | hi peeps :) | 22:51 |
| charlie-tca | Well, I think I done all I can today. Thanks for all the testing | 23:26 |
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