[00:06] <charlie-tca> bbl
[01:02] <slangasek> is there anyone left on-line who's able to test wubi at all?
[01:02] <colorlessprism> i cannot...sorry
[01:02] <slangasek> I can't verify this claim that wubi isn't on the Xubuntu CDs, so I also can't fix it
[05:29] <slangasek> edubuntu respin posted
[06:26] <ara_> morning all
[06:28]  * slangasek waves
[06:28] <ara_> hey slangasek
[06:33]  * ara_ starts her day covering a couple of ubuntu studio test cases
[07:26] <sbeattie> ara: do you know what's up with the iso tracker? It's not updating bug information again.
[07:26] <ara> sbeattie, no idea, but I'll fire a manual update
[07:27] <ara> sbeattie, thanks for the heads-up
[07:30] <ara> sbeattie, updating it now. I will try to investigate why is not doing it automatically
[07:32] <sbeattie> well, at least some bugs were missing; at least one that I know I entered hours ago.
[07:35] <ara> sbeattie, can you check now that bug, please?
[07:36] <sbeattie> ara: cool beans, it's updated now.
[07:36] <ara> sbeattie, ok, thanks
[08:27] <primes2h> ara: morning :-)
[08:27] <ara> good morning primes2h
[08:27] <primes2h> Thank you for adding dtchen suggestion on blueprint
[08:27] <ara> primes2h, np
[08:31] <primes2h> ara: It'll be a nice proposal to be discussed at UDS, together with "fuzzy" matrix and the possible hwdb sinergy
[08:32] <primes2h> but no more clue now. ;-)
[08:32] <ara> :)
[08:33] <ara> I think that hwdb synergies with testing is going to be a trendy topic during uds-m
[08:42] <slangasek> ara: is your bug #567306 the same as bug #558382?
[08:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 567306 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Error in auto-resize partitions (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/567306
[08:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 558382 in partman-base (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Partitioner throws "Unable to satisfy all constraints" when trying to use previously created partitions (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/558382
[08:42] <slangasek> (i.e., is the error message the same?)
[08:42]  * ara checks
[08:45] <ara> slangasek, yes
[08:45] <slangasek> ok
[08:45] <ara> slangasek, you can mark mine as dup
[08:45] <ara> thanks!
[09:00] <ara> mvo, software-center 2.x is looking great :)
[09:00] <mvo> ara: excellent!
[09:03] <kermiac> slangasek: I just downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20100419/lucid-desktop-i386.iso   wubi is working as expected (in win7 vm)
[09:04] <slangasek> kermiac: right, and those are the same images that were posted for xubuntu validation to begin with, so I really don't know what charlie-tca and davmor2 were talking about
[09:10] <kermiac> slangasek: I don't know either - seems to be ok for me   http://imgbin.org/images/1477.jpg
[10:02] <slangasek> kermiac: I guess you're not in a position to test that wubi works, though?
[10:03] <slangasek> i.e., do a full install test for the RC
[10:05] <kermiac> I can do in about an hour or so if that would help.... I just finished with a couple of bugs I was working on
[10:06] <kermiac> slangasek: are there testcases on the tracker? I don't usually test wubi
[10:06] <slangasek> kermiac: yep, test cases under each of the desktop ISOs
[10:06] <slangasek> if you can test, that would certainly be a help
[10:11] <kermiac> slangasek: ok, I found the wubi testcases. I'll try to do a couple as soon as I get the kids off to bed ;)
[10:17] <slangasek> cheers :)
[10:50] <davmor2> morning all
[10:50] <davmor2> did xubuntu get respun to pull in wubi or not?
[10:53] <ara> davmor2, apparently it was already there, at least that what slangasek and kermiac said
[10:54] <davmor2> ara: I wonder why it isn't on the cd then
[10:55] <ara> davmor2, no idea
[10:55] <ara> davmor2, backlog:
 slangasek: I just downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20100419/lucid-desktop-i386.iso   wubi is working as expected (in win7 vm)
 kermiac: right, and those are the same images that were posted for xubuntu validation to begin with, so I really don't know what charlie-tca and davmor2 were talking about
[10:56] <slangasek> davmor2: it *is* on the CD
[10:57] <slangasek> and both sbeattie and kermiac have confirmed that autorun correctly brings up the menu for them
[10:58] <davmor2> slangasek: Meh and yet on the image I had yesterday it wasn't and was confirmed by charlie_tca
[10:58] <slangasek> davmor2: what image was that?
[10:59] <davmor2> Xubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" - Release Candidate amd64 (20100419)
[10:59] <davmor2> is the info
[11:01] <slangasek> davmor2: ok - how have you determined that wubi isn't on the CD?
[11:02] <davmor2> it didn't autorun on vista and there is no wubi.exe on the disk
[11:02] <slangasek> what are you using to check if wubi.exe is on the disk?
[11:04] <davmor2> slangasek: I'm just looking http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1478
[11:04] <slangasek> and do other 10.04 RC CDs autorun correctly on this exact Windows instance?
[11:04] <davmor2> slangasek: all the others have passed wubi
[11:04] <davmor2> only xubuntu
[11:04] <davmor2> mind you looking it's missing the autorun too
[11:05] <slangasek> this is burned to a CD, or on a USB stick?
[11:05] <slangasek> (or a loop-mounted ISO?)
[11:05] <davmor2> slangasek: cd
[11:06] <slangasek> I only have the i386 image downloaded here, because charlie-tca said it affected both - do you have i386 handy?
[11:06] <slangasek> I'd like to have us both working from the same image to debug
[11:07] <sbeattie> davmor2: I have both isos downloaded and I see wubi.exe and autorun.inf on both.
[11:08] <davmor2> slangasek: I'll do a fresh burn and see if it is on the new burn
[11:08] <slangasek> that would be very strange if a burn issue would cause it to not appear
[11:10] <davmor2> slangasek: I know but at least it's one more thing got rid off
[11:10] <sbeattie> davmor2: can you do "sha256sum -c SHA256SUMS.lucid-desktop" in your xubuntu iso directory?
[11:10] <slangasek> I'm in the process of burning to disk here, to check whether nautilus shows autorun and wubi when mounting a CD vs. mounting a loopback device
[11:12] <davmor2> sbeattie: ok ok
[11:14] <davmor2> slangasek: it's on now
[11:14] <slangasek> after reburning?
[11:14] <davmor2> yeap
[11:15] <slangasek> wacky
[11:15] <davmor2> yeap
[11:16] <davmor2> I'll ask charlie_tca to reburn and see if it fixes it for him too, in the mean time I'll get this wubi tested
[11:40] <kermiac> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopWubi
[11:40] <kermiac> doing the cd boot helper...
[11:40] <kermiac> step 7
[11:41] <kermiac> actually step 8 - I don't get a live environment - it ends up at "where are you" first step of the installation process
[11:41] <kermiac> this is in a vm - could it be vm related?
[11:43] <kermiac> davmor2: any idea mate? you do a lot of wubi tests, right?
[11:45] <davmor2> might be vm hang on a second
[11:45]  * kermiac is hanging on
[11:45] <kermiac> :)
[11:47] <davmor2> kermiac: right I'll double check on my next run but I'm not having any issues here on hardware
[11:47] <kermiac> davmor2: ok, I think it id probably a vmware issue - everything else checks out ok. thanks mate
[11:47] <kermiac> s/id/is
[11:48] <ara> I will start now testing netboot installation on i386, let see how it goes
[11:49] <ara> my internet connection is being a bit slow these days
[11:53] <ara> I am afraid I won't be able to cover netboot installations
[11:53] <ara> indeed, the connection is too slow for it
[11:53] <ara> I will cover edubuntu i386 now
[11:57] <ara> I like edubuntu's wall paper :)
[12:01] <mote> HI: Question. If i want to make a laptop test report. Do i have to edit the html codes on the "Testing/Laptop/Reports" page in order for anyone to use it?
[12:04] <davmor2> kermiac: do me a quick favour double check that the vm is mounting the cd still
[12:06] <kermiac> after rebooting (step 7) it wasn't. the vm disconnected the cd drive. I manually connected it & that's when it went into the installer
[12:07] <davmor2> kermiac: and it looks like it is missing the try me screen on the installer
[12:07] <davmor2> if you hit quit though it will go to desktop
[12:08] <kermiac> davmor2: yup. quitting spits me back to the desktop
[12:08] <kermiac> davmor2: yup. quitting spits me back to the desktop
[12:08] <kermiac> oops - lag
[12:08] <davmor2> :)
[12:09] <kermiac> davmor2: are you seeing similar things or is it just a vm issue? I don't have windows installed on hardware at home to verify
[12:10] <davmor2> here I get the xubuntu grub entry then it boots from cd correctly and then goes straight into the installer rather than the option screen yes
[12:11] <kermiac> ok, that's what is happening for me after I manually connect the cd drive to the vm
[12:12] <davmor2> I'm just quizzing one of the devs about it
[12:12] <kermiac> I'm also having (probably vm issues) with the Wubi Stand Alone Desktop Install (Windows Side)
[12:13] <kermiac> It all goes fine & d/l the iso... then right at the end it say it can't find the log - i think it said the installer log
[12:14] <davmor2> I'll have a look after main concern right now is the cds so I'll test that first
[12:15] <kermiac> yup, ok :) Should i update the tracker yet with any info or hold off for a bit?
[12:17] <mote> HI: Question. If i want to make a laptop test report. Do i have to edit the html codes on the "Testing/Laptop/Reports" page in order for anyone to use it?
[12:19] <kermiac> mote: I don't believe so. I just created a new wiki page & then copied the template when I created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Reports/HPPavilionDM3-1011TU
[12:20] <kermiac> I didn't edit any html
[12:20] <mote> Kermiac: the i just cant seem to understand what to do.
[12:22] <ara> if I find several inconsistencies in edubuntu's slideshow, which package should I file the bug against?
[12:22] <ara> any idea?
[12:22] <mote> Kermaic: this passage here "Hit the upper left edit link and create a new entry adding your WikiName with the @SIG@ macro, edition you are testing and link to the new laptop report." what does it mean then?
[12:23] <kermiac> ara: ubiquity?
[12:23] <persia> I don't see a handy ubiquity-slideshow-edubuntu package :(  Maybe ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (if there aren't customisations)?
[12:23] <ara> I'll ask in ubuntu-installer
[12:23] <kermiac> mote: yes, that confused me a bit too
[12:23] <kermiac> mote: what model laptop do you want to setup a page for?
[12:24] <mote> Asus eee 1005p
[12:24] <mote> kermiac: Asus eee 1005p - sorry
[12:24] <kermiac> mote: for which release karmic, lucid, etc?
[12:25] <mote> Kermaic lucid beta 2. but maybe i should wait for RC ?
[12:26] <kermiac> mote, no it's fine - the template that I used has room for the alphas, betas, RC & stable
[12:26] <mote> ok
[12:27] <mote> kermiac: How did you do it?
[12:27] <slangasek> persia, ara: the edubuntu slideshow is in the edubuntu-artwork package
[12:28] <ara> slangasek, thanks
[12:28] <kermiac> mote: just goto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Reports/AsusEee1005P in your browser - this should create the new page for you
[12:29] <mote> kermiac: So is just type in the url and i get the template page?
[12:29] <ara> slangasek, by the way, the test that I marked as Started in netboot is not valid anymore (I was having bandwidth issues and I had to stop it)
[12:30] <slangasek> ok
[12:30] <kermiac> mote: pm so I stop cluttering the channel?
[13:19] <stgraber> morning everyone
[13:19] <stgraber> starting to test Edubuntu amd64 here
[13:24] <kermiac> davmor2: I'm updating the xubuntu wubi testing info before I head off to bed, should I select passed or failed? I will add notes explaining why
[13:26] <kermiac> but I'm unsure which to select as I was testing in vm & had issues with 2 out of 4 tests
[13:29] <ara> morning stgraber
[13:30] <kermiac> hey ara, have you read the backlog where davmor2 & I were discussing wubi? should i select passed or failed? I want to update before going to bed
[13:37] <ara> kermiac, have you filed a bug?
[13:37] <davmor2> kermiac: it might not be a bug currently talking with ev about it
[13:38] <kermiac> ara: no, davmor2 was getting in touch with one of the devs. ok, so that means i will have to mark as passed & just add the notes
[13:38] <ara> kermiac, ok, thanks
[13:38] <kermiac> ok, ty ara & davmor2 :)
[13:40] <kermiac> goodnight all
[13:46] <ara> kermiac, good night
[14:02] <mgj> So i want to get in on the 10.04 action. I was told that a lot had been changed since the beta2 iso, and that i should use the daily iso instead. However, i also heard rumours about "stuff" being broken in the daily iso. Anyone care to comment on that?
[14:22] <ara> mgj, we are testing now candidate images for RC
[14:22] <ara> mgj, they seem pretty stable
[14:22] <ara> mgj, you can find information at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[14:23]  * ara -> lunch
[14:29] <mgj> ara: thanks
[15:28] <davmor2> kermiac, ara: just to keep you in the loop I'm testing a new wubi version for xubuntu apparently it's recieving the wrong call type and starting in automatic mode and shouldn't be.
[15:29] <ara> davmor2, ok, thanks for the heads-up
[15:29] <ara> kermiac, does it affect other flavours?
[15:30] <ara> davmor2, ^
[15:30] <davmor2> ara: it won't effect ubuntu because of the welcome screen but might effect kubuntu
[15:30] <davmor2> haven't looked yet
[15:30] <ara> davmor2, ok
[15:30] <ara> davmor2, are we respining desktops in that case?
[15:31] <slangasek> no
[15:31] <davmor2> it might just be a fix for final but needs to be fixed for then
[15:31] <davmor2> and slangasek says no
[17:06] <charlie-tca> hmmm, need some one to verify here. After testing 64bit images, my swap partitions were marked as 'unknown' for file type. Can somebody with 64bit hardware verify?
[17:06] <fader_> charlie-tca: Is this on vanilla Ubuntu?
[17:06] <charlie-tca> it was xubuntu
[17:07] <charlie-tca> no changes after install
[17:07] <charlie-tca> I used gparted to check them when they did not show in /etc/fstab
[17:07] <fader_> Let me make sure I have the latest xubuntu ISO and I'll spin one up
[17:07] <charlie-tca> T%hanks
[17:09] <charlie-tca> fader_: the last install I did was manual partitioning
[17:11] <fader_> charlie-tca: Cool, I will try manual as well then
[17:11] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[17:11] <fader_> No problem :)
[17:18] <fader_> charlie-tca: It looks good to me -- firing up 'free' after boot shows that my swap partition is mounted and being used
[17:18] <charlie-tca> Thanks. Must be something stupid I did then
[17:18] <fader_> And the partitions show up as 'swap' in fdisk
[17:18] <fader_> Heh
[17:18] <fader_> Cosmic rays :)
[17:19] <charlie-tca> Testing with the system in use?
[17:20]  * ara takes a break until next meeting
[17:21] <fader_> charlie-tca: Not sure what you mean...
[17:21] <charlie-tca> I had two drives, one I use everyday, the other I did the test installs on. Maybe that is not such a great idea
[17:22] <fader_> Ahhh... heh
[17:22] <fader_> Yeah, that sounds like a quick trip to the land of "wait, I formatted *what*?!"
[17:22] <charlie-tca> since all the swap partitions disappeared on me
[17:22] <charlie-tca> ;-)
[17:22] <charlie-tca> done that too
[17:52] <davmor2> kermiac: I was told to file a bug in the end so it is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/567969 so you can add it to your report
[17:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 567969 in wubi "Wubi's help boot cd options goes to ubiquity automatic (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:03] <sbeattie> mvo: dare I ask what the prognosis is on bug 566584?
[18:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 566584 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "unpack/configure order violation triggered by OOo pre-depends (affects: 9) (dups: 3) (heat: 60)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566584
[18:08] <mvo> sbeattie: I have a plan and a possible fix, that "just" needs to be tested carefully and then uploaded
[18:09] <sbeattie> how can I help? it's blocking at least some karmic->lucid upgrades.
[18:11] <mvo> sbeattie: hm, not easy, let me think about it over dinner, putting it in a ppa and making the upgrader not comment unknown sources might be a fix
[18:12] <sbeattie> mvo: okay.
[18:14] <mvo> sbeattie: eh, a good way to help I mean
[19:22] <mdlueck> Tap tap... hello, I discovered that mkfs.xfs is missing in today's ISO, suspect it has been missing for a week or so since I have no been able to use XFS in my Lucid testing. Anyone aware of this?
[19:37] <mdlueck> I logged it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/568024
[19:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 568024 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "xfsprogs missing from install / live CD, can not use XFS during installation (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[19:57] <sbeattie> mdlueck: is that only on the live cd or alternate as well?
[19:57] <sbeattie> (and bugger, I thought we'd sorted those out before)
[19:58] <mdlueck> sbeattie: I have not pulled an alt nor server CD image
[19:58] <mdlueck> sbeattie: Ja, important for ALL flavours
[19:59] <sbeattie> mdlueck: do you use xfs regularly?
[20:00] <sbeattie> mdlueck: the reason I ask is I was wondering if you've seen any performance issues with it.
[20:00] <mdlueck> sbeattie: Yes indeed!!! ext something for /boot, all others xfs
[20:01] <mdlueck> grub used to have problems booting from xfs, thus the reason for a separate /boot partition formatted ext something... someday I will retest that grub issue... someday...
[20:01] <mdlueck> lilo boots from xfs just fine
[20:02] <sbeattie> we've found, informally, zsync'ing isos onto an xfs partition, the initial check of an existing iso took an order of magnitude longer on xfs than ext[34], and I was wondering if you saw similar issues on reads of large files like that.
[20:02] <mdlueck> xfs is good for very large files, dirs with many files in them, has built-in ACL support, comes with storage management utilities... can't go wrong
[20:03] <sbeattie> hrm, I wonder if zsync is just choosing an unfortunate blocksize or something.
[20:03] <mdlueck> zsync is a new toy to me, just discovered it during Lucid testing. Slicker than pulling down entire ISO images, so I am quite pleased compared to the prior method
[20:05] <mdlueck> the default block size or something could be a bit larger, but I am too lazy to go through the hassle of manually formatting to get the better size param
[20:05] <mdlueck> I recall an old KLUG presentation on XFS that showed a WOW performance improvement by tweaking one param during formatting.
[20:06] <mdlueck> Always wanted to come up with a way to have that number be the standard... not up to forking the Ubuntu project, though! ;-)
[22:09] <mikkelgj> I just installed the 10.04 beta2, and it correctly identified my nvidia video card. However, i get an error when trying to install the restricted drivers: http://pastebin.com/xe0Wp3pk
[22:09] <mikkelgj> Why would cause that file to not exist?
[22:09] <mikkelgj> what*
[22:22] <sbeattie> bdmurray: do you know how to kick off an update of the bug info sync on iso.qa.ubuntu.com? It again appears to have fallen behind.
[22:29] <bdmurray> sbeattie: the last I knew was it required IS to massage it
[22:30] <sbeattie> bdmurray: hrm, ara managed to kick it this morning...
[22:30] <bdmurray> sbeattie: well my knowledge might be out of date ;-)
[22:30] <sbeattie> heh. And by this morning, I meant late last night.
[22:31] <bdmurray> sbeattie: if its important I could try and poke around and see if I can figure it out
[22:35]  * sbeattie steps away for a break
[22:51] <bruce_> hi peeps  :)
[23:26] <charlie-tca> Well, I think I done all I can today. Thanks for all the testing