[00:00] <tonyyarusso> I'd imagine simple quoting would work for }, but certainly a \ escape would.
[00:00] <tonyyarusso> Too bad he left.
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> Hey, who wants to help work on wording for a resolution regarding mandating open standard document format usage for government publications in MN?
[05:04] <sparklehistory> tonyyarusso: I'll read a draft and critique or offer suggestions but I'm not up for actually writing it.
[05:05] <sparklehistory> tonyyarusso: Also, don't you have a resolution from the SD convention?
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> sparklehistory: yeah, but it was written on the spot and could probably be better
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> I started a gobby session on ubuntu-minnesota.org:6522
[05:08]  * tonyyarusso pokes h00k 
[05:09] <h00k> tonyyarusso: ohai
[05:09] <h00k> tonyyarusso: in a second, I'm working on a few things here
[05:10] <sparklehistory> tonyyarusso: I've got to download/install so it'll be a few mintues
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> of course
[05:12]  * tonyyarusso can wait, he just microwaved some bacon
[05:15] <sparklehistory> hehe...a tonyyarusso with bacon is a happy tonyyarusso
[05:49] <Obsidian1723> Anyone know where I can can a wall-mounted 16 U 4-Post Open Server Rack?
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> Uh, wall-mounted *and* 4-post?
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> h00k: Does OOXML meet the "royalty-free" requirement?
[06:01] <Obsidian1723> 2 post if wall mounted
[06:54]  * tonyyarusso wonders how h00k's work is coming along
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> hey ripps
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> sparklehistory: take a look at what I have now
[07:29] <sparklehistory> tonyyarusso: Are you sure that you want to tie the State using open formats with the DFL using open formats?
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> sparklehistory: sure, why not?
[07:32] <sparklehistory> Just wondering if you would get some resistance from whoever at the DFL is responsible for record maintenece if they didn't totally understand or weren't contacted and consulted before this resolution comes up on the floor.
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> meh
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> All the better to make them listen :)
[07:33] <sparklehistory> And if they're offended or not on board for some reason, that could derail the broader policy which is the most important thing.
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> And they can always propose an amendment removing that line.
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> (It'd be really really stupid to demand that the state do something we can't do ourselves)
[07:35] <sparklehistory> (I don't think it's a matter of it being something the DFL can't do, just that I'm not sure this is the best way to get the DFL to do it nor do I think it helps the cause of requiring government documents in free software)
[07:36] <sparklehistory> Especially at a convention where emotions can run high and people are under a lot of stress, I would just be particularly careful not to appear disrespectful or indifferent of someone's territory (so to speak) if I didn't have to.  They might be completely cool and on board with it, but they might not and I think that's a risk.
[07:37] <sparklehistory> It might not matter at all and maybe I'm being paranoid, but it just sort of rubbed me the wrong way.
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> Well, the other two ways to make the DFL do it would be to get elected to the state standing Rules committee and try to put it in the Call, or propose it as an amendment to the party constitution, which would be actually binding, whereas a resolution is not.
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> Wording has a been changed a bit over the last few minutes.
[07:41] <sparklehistory> Well then this seems like the least aggressive official way to do it.  I assume you could also accomplish it unofficially by convincing the records manager/office staff themselves simply to change the way they work with documents.  It doesn't seem like something so critical that it would actually have to be an official, convention approved change.
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> yup
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> If I were only doing it for the DFL it wouldn't be a resolution, but as long as the definition is all spelled out it may as well come up.
[07:42] <sparklehistory> I like that wording better
[08:05]  * tonyyarusso is going to bed - ping me if you have thoughts later h00k 
[23:04]  * Obsidian1723 Gotta love how McAfee thinks Windowsw is a virus and then reboots the PC.. I don't know what took it so long. Heck, I knew Windows was a virus long ago. /snark
[23:55] <tonyyarusso> h00k: pastebin.ca appears to be down, so http://pastebin.com/aDtkfp2M if you want to look
[23:56] <h00k> tonyyarusso: that is excellent.
[23:58] <tonyyarusso> anything you'd change?