[00:00] <magicianlord> what is vmware?
[00:00] <virus> MK13:I am new to ubuntu before i use windows in that there is a option for it
[00:00] <marenostrum> !xubuntu
[00:00] <kevin1230> I'm new too1
[00:00] <ZykoticK9> magicianlord, round buttons and purple color with left side buttons - WILL be in final
[00:01] <MK13> virus, I haven't seen that option before... unless your aren't doing a complete shutdown / wake on lan type deal
[00:01] <Typos_King> magicianlord:   is a virtual machine environment, just like virtualbox
[00:01] <magicianlord> ZykoticK9: too bad
[00:01] <MK13> ZykoticK9, fortunantly the left side buttons aren't too hard to change tho :D
[00:01] <magicianlord> Typos_King: thanks. i have never used it
[00:01] <virus> MK13:if  I schedule to shutdown and power on during that time it will automatically power on and off during that time
[00:02] <MK13> virus, so you want a scheduled restart...
[00:02] <virus> MK13: that also k
[00:02] <skinflakez> anyone available to help a noob?
[00:02] <virus> MK13:did you know that??
[00:03] <Pici> !ask
[00:03] <ZykoticK9> !ask | skinflakez
[00:03] <magicianlord> omg, mortal kombat 13??
[00:03] <skinflakez> thanks pici Zykotick9 ubottu
[00:03] <stercor> What's this XAuth on Meebo?
[00:03] <skinflakez> !ask I have a question about removing a repository index manually
[00:03] <MK13> virus, if it will be a regular restart (say you want the computer to restart every day at 12:00am) then it should be easy to create a cron job with 'shutdown -r now'
[00:03] <Pici> stercor: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-Ubuntu-Support questions/discussion
[00:04] <stercor> Pici:  Gotcha! and thanks.
[00:04] <Dell> sorry guys
[00:04] <ZykoticK9> skinflakez, medibuntu by chance?
[00:04] <skinflakez> No
[00:04] <skinflakez> Zykotic9
[00:04] <Dell> can someone paste the result of ls /usr/lib/lubgmodule* somewhere for me?
[00:04] <skinflakez> I am running Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic with the latest updates
[00:04] <ZykoticK9> skinflakez, System / Admin / Software Sources - uncheck the one you don't want
[00:04] <virus> MK13:where i have give this command
[00:04] <linuxdumbooo> anyone know how to make WPA network work with Broadcom 43xx wifi cards?
[00:04] <skinflakez> That's my problem Zykotick
[00:04] <skinflakez> It's not listed there
[00:04] <skinflakez> I am at a loss as to where it is
[00:05] <magicianlord> linuxdumbooo: wpa supplicant
[00:05] <MK13> virus, i have never really used cron before, one sec.
[00:05] <Typos_King> Dell:  don't have it
[00:05] <linuxdumbooo> magician i did the BCM43xx workaround to get wifi work
[00:05] <Pici> skinflakez: its probably a separate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[00:05] <linuxdumbooo> turning on wpa supplicant turns off my wifi
[00:05] <ZykoticK9> skinflakez, is it listed in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[00:05] <Fardad> sorry
[00:05] <linuxdumbooo> skin u can just edit the source.list
[00:05] <Fardad> typo
[00:05] <magicianlord> oh ok
[00:05] <cappicard> hey folks. got a dilemna... I found that my integrated marvell gigabit adapter won't function if PCI MMIO is enabled. Yet, I need PCI MMIO enabled to get it to recognize my 4GB of ram...
[00:05] <magicianlord> well, dont use wpa then
[00:05] <skinflakez> Thanks Zykotick9, i'll check there
[00:05] <Fardad> ls /usr/lib/libgmodule*
[00:06] <linuxdumbooo> it is hard because i am at university network
[00:06] <linuxdumbooo> and it requeires wifi log on
[00:06] <MK13> virus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48099 for starters
[00:06] <Fardad> please?
[00:06] <virus> MK13:very very thanks
[00:07] <max_rb> hi... how can i test the usplash theme without reboot the system???
[00:07] <MK13> virus, http://ubuntuguide.net/gshutdown-gui-tool-for-scheduled-shutdownrestart-in-ubuntu if you want a gui
[00:07] <Pici> Fardad: Can you restate your question *all on one line* please?
[00:07] <magicianlord> what is the gtk utility for changing resolutions and screen orientation for intel graphics?
[00:07] <Fardad> Pici: can someone paste the result of ls /usr/lib/libgmodule* somewhere for me? ( sorry, I'm a IRC newbie )
[00:08] <Typos_King> Fardad:  don't have it
[00:08] <skinflakez> pici zykotick9, under what file do you think it might be in apt.conf.d? 05aptitude?
[00:08] <hunahpu> magicianlord: xrandr should help you with that
[00:08] <rafaelsoaresbr> Fardad, no such file or directory here
[00:08] <magicianlord> ok
[00:09] <Fardad> Typos_King: ok thanks
[00:09] <Pici> Fardad: On a server install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419520/
[00:09] <ZykoticK9> skinflakez, it's filename would be the repo name
[00:09] <Typos_King> ...
[00:09] <magicianlord> hunahpu: that just brings up some text in terminal
[00:09] <skinflakez> oh ok zykotick9, then i am not seeing it
[00:09] <hunahpu> magicianlord: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[00:09] <magicianlord> what is the gui frontend for this
[00:09] <magicianlord> what application do i install
[00:09] <hunahpu> magicianlord: I have no idea what the GUI is... or if there is one
[00:10] <ToccoaD> Hello everyone.  I was trying to get some games to work on my wife's computer (which I'm currently on) and followed the instructions on this site (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582).  The graphical lag has lessened but now the wireless card doesn't work at all.  The drivers have dissappeared from the hardware drivers menu.  Can anyone tell me what I screwed up?
[00:10] <Typos_King> Fardad:  actually -> http://paste2.org/p/784679
[00:10] <Pici> !enter
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> magicianlord, system / preferences / monitor - doesn't work?
[00:10] <giiker> hi everyone
[00:10] <magicianlord> ZykoticK9: im not using gnome. im using openbox
[00:11] <magicianlord> i want a gui to adjust screen res
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> magicianlord, ahhh
[00:11] <Typos_King> magicianlord:    openbox is not a desktop manager, just a window manager, I'd gather you have gnome as DM
[00:11] <magicianlord> i know that in crunchbang, there is some utility based off xrandr
[00:11] <magicianlord> all i have it openbox
[00:11] <magicianlord> is
[00:11] <magicianlord> it is perfect
[00:11] <Pici> !enter | magicianlord
[00:12] <giiker> I changed the passphrase of my private key file (with ssh-keygen -p)but when login in to the remote server through SSH, it doesn't recognize my passphrase?! any idea
[00:12] <skinflakez> zykotick9, it's a repository that i never got to fully work.  it's failing to fetch and i'd just like to remove it
[00:13] <ZykoticK9> skinflakez, if it's not in Software Sources or sources.list.d - i don't know where it could be, sorry.  Good luck man.
[00:13] <stercor> I need someone who has OCR experience.  What's a simple, easy-to-use package?
[00:13] <ToccoaD> I applied the intel graphics card fix found here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582) and now my wireless card drivers have dissapeared.  Can anyone tell me what I might've messed up or how to get them back?
[00:13] <stercor> I'm scanning a book.
[00:13] <skinflakez> lol, thanks for your help regardless zykotic9 and pici!
[00:13] <sheldon> hello all, i'm trying to run command "/etc/init.d/nagios restart" with user apache without PASSWD. Then i add line "apache ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:/etc/init.d/nagios restart" but he asks me a password...
[00:13] <MK13> !patience
[00:14] <magicianlord> ubottu is so cute
[00:14] <hunahpu> stercor: open synaptic and search for OCR, there are a few ones
[00:14] <magicianlord> haha
[00:14] <hak3r> how do you make emerald file into tgz file
[00:14] <stercor> hunahpu: Thanks for the pointer!
[00:15] <sheldon> i tried to put an alias "Cmnd_Alias NAGIOS_RESTART=/etc/init.d/nagios restart" and add "apache ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:NAGIOS_RESTART" but nothing works
[00:15] <nichos> hi all, my mythtv box keeps locking up (not even responding to pings) are there any console temperature apps? It may be overheating
[00:15] <Skeebers> hello
[00:15] <nichos> perhaps the video card
[00:15] <Fardad> Pici: this is my problem, can I have your advices? http://paste.ubuntu.com/419524/
[00:16] <magicianlord> is ATI ever going to have drivers that work properly on linux?
[00:16] <KB1JWQ> Fardad: You blew giant holes in your OS.
[00:16] <hak3r> how do you delete file through terminal
[00:16] <MK13> ToccoaD, taken from that site you linked to '*Disclaimer: Using a third-party kernel means that you will no longer have access to "restricted" drivers such as FGLRX, NVIDIA, some Broadcom wireless chipsets, certain webcams and a handful new sound cards that require restricted firmware to function. If you believe that you have restricted hardware on your machine, you should continue using the official Jaunty kernel - in other words, stick
[00:16] <MK13> he Safe configuration.
[00:16] <KB1JWQ> Fardad: Why in the name of all that's holy would you be playing around with sudo in /usr/lib?
[00:17] <magicianlord> KB1JWQ: because risk is fun
[00:17] <hak3r> just a learning school i am studying for computer science  basics
[00:17] <Pici> Fardad: Yes. I suggest that you backup your data and reinstall Ubuntu, it will be easier than trying to find what you're missing or what you've broken.
[00:17] <KB1JWQ> magicianlord: Agreed, but if you break it, you get to keep the pieces.
[00:17] <ToccoaD> MK13: Alright.  I've tried uninstalling the third party kernal and it didn't bring back the wireless drivers.  I'll reattempt if you think that's the path to getting wireless back on track?
[00:17] <KB1JWQ> Pici++
[00:18] <sheldon> no idea please for my sudo ?
[00:18] <magicianlord> KB1JWQ: sudo rmdir /boot/*.*
[00:18] <hunahpu> Fardad: re-install GDM and gtk; good luck
[00:18] <magicianlord> lol
[00:18] <KB1JWQ> sheldon: Get the command out of there, you just permit sudo for the binary.
[00:18] <MK13> ToccoaD, you will have to get back to the default kernel to have access to the hardware drivers you want
[00:19] <KB1JWQ> sheldon: A better question would be "Why are you running nagios as the apache user" but...
[00:19] <Fardad> Pici: so just after copying 2 files and deleting two other I will have to reinstall? copying back the missing libs won't do?
[00:19] <KB1JWQ> Fardad: Do you know what you deleted?
[00:19] <KB1JWQ> Fardad: Because we don't.
[00:19] <Typos_King> Fardad:  actually -> http://paste2.org/p/784679   <---   so, yes there are some files with such names.... what I wonder is why the dickens you removed them :P~, that'll learn you
[00:19] <Perlfection> -  -
[00:19] <sheldon> i need to restart nagios with apache cause im using a web interface to configure nagios (lilac)
[00:19] <KB1JWQ> Fardad: Your error was 1. using sudo, 2. using rm, 3. using a wildcard, and 4. doing it in an important directory.
[00:20] <Perlfection> -  -
[00:20] <ToccoaD> MK13: Okay.  I'll go back through the revert instructions again and see if I can get them back that way.  Maybe I missed a step last time.
[00:20] <Fardad> Typos_King: my question is, does copying these files with cp repair this?
[00:20] <ToccoaD> MK13: Thanks for the explanation.
[00:20] <mr_fribble> Should I upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[00:20] <giiker> I changed the passphrase of my private key file (with ssh-keygen -p)but when login in to the remote server through SSH, it doesn't recognize my passphrase?! any idea?
[00:20] <KB1JWQ> Fardad: Try it and see, after backing up.
[00:20] <sheldon> KB1JWQ, how can i solve my problem ?
[00:20] <MK13> ToccoaD, i try my best :)
[00:20] <elaich> somebody knows when i can get help using EPIC ?
[00:20] <hunahpu> Fardad: you can read the LOGS at /var/log and see if you can find the file syou deleted and then download them/get them, good luck
[00:20] <sheldon> i tried SETUID but dont seems to work :(
[00:21] <Typos_King> Fardad:  'assuming' is all you've did for it to break, very likely, is just 1 file by the way, the other is a symlink
[00:21] <Perlfection> -  -
[00:21] <Perlfection> -  -
[00:21] <yaaar> MK13: well, i recovered grub as described in that link, but it still tells me "error: couldn't read file" when i try to boot
[00:21]  * hunahpu remembers have read: "Linux assumes you know exactly what you are doing" somewhere
[00:21] <yaaar> mr_fribble: why don't you wait 10 days and then you can get the fancy new 10.04
[00:22] <Fardad> I don't need to download really, I can get them from my friends. I was just wondering if I have to reinstall ubuntu or I can handle it without reinstalling.
[00:22] <Typos_King> Fardad:  http://paste2.org/p/784698   <--- to be exact
[00:22] <Fardad> since lucid is coming soon
[00:22] <hunahpu> yaaar: mr_fribble would need to upgrade to 9.10 first in order to upgrade to 10.04 anyways
[00:22] <Fardad> anyway, thanks a lot.
[00:22] <yaaar> hunahpu: i've always liked "UNIX is very user friendly. It's just picky about who its friends are..."
[00:22] <MK13> giiker, well seeing as how you changed your passphrase you no longer look like the same person to your server... you will need to access the server another way and setup the server to accept the new passphrase... not sure if you can re-establish it through the computer you changed the key on
[00:22] <Fardad> the power of linux is these friendly people here ;)
[00:22] <mr_fribble> hunahpu, should i upgrade to 10.04?
[00:22] <hunahpu> yaaar: oh yeah that one is good too
[00:23] <yaaar> hunahpu: oh i hadn't really thought about that. i don't do in-place upgrades on desktop machines much...
[00:23] <hunahpu> mr_fribble: while is not mandatory and may not be your case, by general rule upgrading is always a good idea
[00:23] <Perlfection> -  -
[00:23] <Perlfection> -  -
[00:23] <Perlfection> -  -
[00:23] <Perlfection> -  -
[00:23] <Pici> Perlfection: Could you please stop that?
[00:23] <FloodBot4> Perlfection: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <MK13> yaaar, then I don't know what to tell you to do w/ out knowing more about your setup
[00:23] <Perlfection> -  -
[00:24] <Typos_King> !ops | Perlfection
[00:24] <markymark> hello, any Skype users here?
[00:24] <hunahpu> mr_fribble: the upgrade to 10.04 is a smart move since it is a LTS release, developers tend to refine LTS very much and you will receiving free upgrades for 3 years.
[00:24] <LizardK|ng> how do i make karmic do a "iwconfig wlan0 essid networkname" and then "dhclient wlan0" BEFORE it gets to rc.local, so that the wireless is ready by the time it mounts my nfs shares in /etc/fstab?  i've been all over /etc and nothing makes sense anymore
[00:25] <giiker> MK13: I changed the passphrase of my private key file on my client machine, the remote server (SSH server)  has knowledge of my public key only. Changing my private kye file's passphrase woÅn't affect the authentication with the remote box.
[00:25] <yaaar> MK13: hmm. what would you like to know? i'd be happy to provide whatever information i can. i'm just doing a completely stock install (using the whole drive) of 9.10 (32b) and the hardware is an HP pavilion dv6000
[00:25] <Pici> LizardK|ng: Theres a mount option that you can apply in /etc/fstab that says to wait for network access, have you tried that?
[00:25] <hunahpu> LizardK|ng: add the commands to your rc2.d/ scripts
[00:25] <LizardK|ng> Pici, whats the mount option?
[00:26] <MK13> yaaar, what filesystem did you use?
[00:26] <LizardK|ng> hunahpu, i looked in rc2.d and tried to modify the networking script but i got a "bad stanza" error
[00:26] <hunahpu> LizardK|ng: rc1.d*
[00:26] <MK13> giiker, sorry, can't really help then
[00:27] <Pici> LizardK|ng: _netdev , see: man 8 mount
[00:27] <cc4> hi . any tv capturing app for ubuntu?
[00:27] <hunahpu> LizardK|ng: don't modify anything there, create a new file; but do it in rc1.d/ I think it reads runlevel2 AFTER mounting
[00:27] <giiker> I changed the passphrase of my private key file (with ssh-keygen -p)in my client box, but when login in to the remote server through SSH, my new  passphrase is not recognized. I can keep changing the passphrase, but it is not being recognized?!!
[00:27] <karmic> hi'
[00:27] <yaaar> MK13: i didn't specify any custom options at all. i just chose 'use entire disk' ...iirc it defaults to ext4?
[00:27] <karmic> i have a problem
[00:27] <giiker> MK13: thanx
[00:27] <karmic> can u help me?
[00:27] <hunahpu> !ask | karmic
[00:28] <cc4> any tv capturing app for ubuntu?
[00:28] <LizardK|ng> Pici, looking now; are the startup scripts smart enough to go back and mount them?
[00:28] <Pici> LizardK|ng: They should be, I've only tested with a hardwired connection and smbfs/cifs mounts
[00:28] <karmic> im running ubuntu 9.10
[00:28] <Jordan_U> yaaar: Ubuntu is pretty well tuned for ssd's by default, lucid will be moreso (at least with respect to boot times)
[00:29] <Perlfection> Pici: could you please give someone a chance to get your message before kicking them 23 seconds later? had a script go nuts.
[00:30] <ZykoticK9> cc4, MythTV certainly can capture TV (but it's a BIG program) you might want to check out tvtime (i've never used it myself)
[00:30] <LizardK|ng> Pici,  i believe eth0 is up, but not wlan0 when it tries to mount
[00:30] <chetnick> Hello guys, can i install package from while in live cd? I need to recover some files from umounted partition using scalpel. But i cant seem to install package while in live cd.
[00:30] <giiker> I changed the passphrase of my private key file (with ssh-keygen -p)in my client box, but when login in to the remote server through SSH, my new  passphrase is not recognized. I can keep changing the passphrase, but it is not being recognized?!!
[00:30] <Pici> Perlfection: I probably should have just muted, sorry.
[00:30] <yaaar> Perlfection: looked to me like the bot (not pici) kicked you for flooding
[00:30] <LizardK|ng> i mean, all the scripts are just pointing to or calling other scripts, where is the real work done?
[00:30] <Pici> yaaar: it was me.
[00:30] <yaaar> oh
[00:31] <karmic> i using virtualbox to emulate bactrack 4, my problem is to rezize the screen of the virtualized OS, i tried to change xorg.conf but i dont nkow how
[00:31] <ZykoticK9> giiker, it's because the key needs to be updated too the server - not sure how you can do that after changing the password.  Best of luck.
[00:31] <cc4> ZykoticK9: thank you. anything except avidemux for video editing?
[00:31] <giiker> karmic: I can make it work with a virtualized Ubuntu by installing guest additions
[00:31] <ZykoticK9> cc4, you might want to check out pitivi
[00:31] <MK13> yaaar, yea ext4 is the default... as far as the error messages it seems it happens usually when updating from grub to grub2
[00:31] <d_b_d> cc4: try kino
[00:31] <jrcarr2> my workplace uses cisco vpn... any ideas on how I could get this working with linux? I am developing from ubuntu completely at work, but unable to from home due to vpn
[00:32] <karmic> i cant install guest addition
[00:32] <jrcarr2> what app would let me connect through cisco vpn?
[00:32] <MK13> yaaar, so if you installed it on the whole drive what does the grub2 boot entry look like>
[00:32] <cc4> what I want the most if merge clips together of any format and export to dvd format
[00:32] <cc4> even realplayer
[00:32] <karmic> i tried to mount dev/sda /media/cdrom0
[00:32] <cc4> which is not on the repository. where is realplayer?
[00:32] <giiker> ZykoticK9: I can do that, and I know how to. But as I said before the passphrase that I changed is the one to protect my private key file from being on plain text.
[00:32] <d_b_d> jrcarr2: have a look at http://www.longren.org/2007/05/17/how-to-cisco-vpn-client-on-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/
[00:32] <mr_fribble> Is vnc the easiest/fastest approach to use ubuntu desktop on a windows platform?
[00:33] <ZykoticK9> !backtrack > karmic
[00:33] <giiker> karmic: why cant u?
[00:33] <jrcarr2> d_b_d, thanks
[00:33] <Pici> jrcarr2: Network Manager will let you connect to a Cisco VPN if you install the network-manager-vpnc package.  You may need to restart the network-manager service after install (or reboot/relog).
[00:33] <chetnick> Hello guys, can i install package  while in live cd? I need to recover some files from umounted partition using scalpel. But i cant seem to install package while in live cd.
[00:33] <d_b_d> mr_fribble: if you don't need a GUI then simply connect over ssh (using Putty on windows)
[00:33] <LizardK|ng> Pici, it still tried to mount them right away :(
[00:33] <giiker> karmic: you have to mount it from the media manager
[00:33] <jrcarr2> Pici, thanks, I'll install and check
[00:33] <colorlessprism> Chetic, yes just like normal
[00:33] <ZykoticK9> giiker, sorry man - no ideas here, good luck
[00:33] <d_b_d> chetnick: you need to sudo apt-get update first
[00:34] <jrcarr2> on another note, how can I create an environment variable with a period in it?
[00:34] <d_b_d> chetnick: and check /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:34] <chetnick> d_b_d: thanks that is probably why...
[00:34] <colorlessprism> Chetic, sudo apt-get install doesnt work?
[00:34] <jrcarr2> I need to create an environment variable named "lsi.environment"
[00:34] <giiker> ZykoticK9: thanx
[00:34] <d_b_d> chetnick: uncomment all sources (except for the cd rom)
[00:34] <chetnick> colorlessprism: no  it did not work, but d_b_d suggested right thing to do...
[00:34] <chetnick> thanks.
[00:34] <ToccoaD> MK13: So I've followed the steps listed to revert the changes and I'm still not seeing any drivers available for the wireless card.  Can you tell me how I can A) find out what the default kernel is to check and see if I have it and B) if not, how to get it?
[00:34] <giiker> I changed the passphrase of my private key file (with ssh-keygen -p)in my client box, but when login in to the remote server through SSH, my new  passphrase is not recognized. I can keep changing the passphrase, but it is not being recognized?!!
[00:34] <nick_fn_> Can anyone recommend an app to play mp3 files which are audio books? With a bookmark per file?
[00:35] <jrcarr2> Pici, how do you restart network-manager
[00:35] <colorlessprism> Chetic, awesome good luck
[00:35] <nick_fn_> Extra good if it works nicely with a touchscreen and no keyboard :-)
[00:35] <jrcarr2> giiker, yes, a common problem
[00:35] <karmic> media manager?
[00:35] <MK13> ToccoaD, not really at this moment since I am not on linux and on a VERY crappy Win2000 computer atm
[00:35] <cc4> why is not realplayer on synaptic?
[00:35] <Pici> jrcarr2: service network-manager restart    I think.  I was testing on Lucid, so I'm unsure if that will work in <= Karmic
[00:35] <MK13> ToccoaD,sorry
[00:36] <Jordan_U> cc4: Is there a reason you prefer realplayer to any of the more standard supported media apps?
[00:36] <Chetic> thanks colorlessprism lol
[00:36] <ToccoaD> MK13: Thats alright.  I'll ask the room at large.  Thanks for being willing to help.
[00:36] <cc4> Jordan_U: to save realplayer clips from the web to the hd
[00:36] <cc4> Jordan_U: merge them, and make a dvd
[00:36] <jrcarr2> thanks dudes... secondly.. .anyone know if virtualbox or vmware can run a windows installation on another partition?
[00:36] <d_b_d> cc4: use wget with the url. play and convert with vlc (or mplayer) from command line
[00:36] <giiker> karmic: on the settings menu, there is the option to mount an image iso, there!
[00:37] <ToccoaD> Can anyone tell me A) what the current default kernel is for jaunty and B) how to get it if I don't have it?
[00:37] <cc4> d_b_d: does wget have a gui?
[00:37] <ZykoticK9> jrcarr2, VirtualBox can -- see (and notice warning!) http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[00:37] <giiker> jrcarr2: can you elaborate plz?
[00:37] <MK13> jrcarr2, vmware can mount a real partition as the virtual harddrive but it is not recommended to then boot from that
[00:37] <yaaar> MK13: well, it's in another room so it'll be tricky to get verbatim, but here's the basic rundown. it sets the error variable, then checks for the grub environment, then 'set quiet=1' then 'insmod ext2' then 'root (hd0,1)' then a line searching for a filesystem id, and then finally the big kernel line, which has root=/dev/sda1 and only 3 options: ro quiet splash
[00:37] <d_b_d> cc4: maybe (but using it from the terminal is simple)
[00:37] <nick_fn_> jrcarr2, yes, but it's troublesome as the windows image will have the wrong drivers for the IDE/SCSI bus, and so on. It'll likely just bluescreen on boot unless you're careful
[00:37] <cc4> d_b_d: on some sites I need there is no url
[00:37] <jrcarr2> nick_fn_, lol.... then I'm not doing that then :)
[00:38] <korcan> will karmic be upgraded to 2.6.32 ?  I need a bugfix for a wireless card that is in that kernel release :)
[00:38] <cc4> d_b_d: on the html source. does wget gets the page? what?
[00:38] <Polydeuces1> Greetings all! I've been tweaking my my 9.10 netbook remix for the past couple days, and had a question about internet -- It's very choppy, especially downloads and honestly, I can't download anything above ~10 megs. It always cuts out, whether it's in a browser, terminal, synaptic or a game's updater. I disabled firewall, enabled DMZ for my computer and updated router's firmware. Same problem. any ideas?
[00:38] <jrcarr2> this is a work issued laptop and if I nuke the windows partition I'll have to call helpdesk to have them reinstall everything :)
[00:38] <karmic> its said mount: block device /dec/hdc is write protected, mounting ready only    Mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or media cdrom0 is busy     mount : according to mtab, /dev/hdc is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[00:38] <yaaar> MK13: i've also tried with 'noapic nolapic' with the same results. i can give you more detail on any of those lines if you need it. you think maybe 'insmod ext2' is the issue? or is ext4 still back-compat with 2 just like 3 was?
[00:38] <d_b_d> cc4: then the url is probably hidden by some javascript obfuscation (but you can be sure it is there ;-)
[00:38] <max_rb> how can I test the grub splash theme without reboot the system??
[00:38] <korcan> or should I just install it myself?
[00:39] <cc4> d_b_d: any alternative to wget with a gui?
[00:39] <yaaar> cc4: a web browser?
[00:39] <nick_fn_> jrcarr2, what I did instead, is run a P2V process, and make the windows partition into a windows 'file' (virtual hard disk). You can keep the real windows parition too...
[00:39] <ZykoticK9> karmic, if you are using backtrack4 please seek assistance in their support
[00:39] <Pici> cc4: gwget
[00:39] <MK13> yaaar, i would prolly chance the insmod to ext4 just to check
[00:39] <yaaar> MK13: roger that
[00:39] <giiker> I changed the passphrase of my private key file (with ssh-keygen -p)in my client box, but when login in to the remote server through SSH, my new  passphrase is not recognized. I can keep changing the passphrase, but it is not being recognized?!!
[00:39] <d_b_d> cc4: not really sure (wget cli works fine for me)
[00:39] <cc4> ok I will try it and get back
[00:40] <karmic> im using it down the virtualbox
[00:40] <karmic> ok
[00:40] <Jordan_U> max_rb: There is no easy way to test that you setup the theme properly on your machine, if you really just want to see what a theme looks like / acts you can use a virtual machine.
[00:40] <karmic> am allready mount the image
[00:40] <yaaar> MK13: that changes it from "error: Couldn't read file" to "error: File not found"
[00:40] <AdmiralDeath> is it normal for ubuntu to take a while to boot the install cycle?
[00:40] <MK13> yaaar, though it should be backwards compatable... what that error says to me is either wrong filesystem type given or wron partition given
[00:41] <max_rb> Jordan_U, tkz...
[00:41] <cc4> anything like netlimiter of windows on ubuntu? simple?
[00:41] <karmic> now how can install the additions?
[00:41] <giiker> AdmiralDeath: depends
[00:41] <korcan> what is the best way to update my kernel to 2.6.32 ?
[00:41] <Jordan_U> MK13: grub2's "ext2" module supports ext2/3/4
[00:41] <MK13> Jordan_U, thanks for the info... figured it would but was worth a shot anyway
[00:41] <giiker> AdmiralDeath: USB will be faster than CDRom
[00:42] <soreau> ! best
[00:42] <AdmiralDeath> it hass been reading the CRrom for the past 20 minutes
[00:42] <ZykoticK9> karmic, #vbox may be able to assist you as well
[00:42] <karmic> ok
[00:42] <cc4> anything like netlimiter of ms$ win on ubuntu? simple?
[00:42] <karmic> im instakking it
[00:42] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: verify your written copy (md5 the checksum)
[00:42] <karmic> thankyou guys
[00:42] <AdmiralDeath> kk
[00:42] <rww> AdmiralDeath: LiveCDs can take a while to load, depending on your CD-ROM speeds, yes.
[00:42] <pearson> help me
[00:42] <AdmiralDeath> ah ok
[00:43] <giiker> AdmiralDeath: jeje, u might have a coaster then, it does not take that long, unless you have a x CDRom drive :)!
[00:43] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: or try switching to a different runlevel and see if something interesting is there
[00:43] <AdmiralDeath> well the Drive is very old
[00:43] <soreau> korcan: Your options include using a ppa, upgrading to lucid, or downloading and building the kernel yourself (most difficult)
[00:43] <colorlessprism> AdmiralDeath, lol
[00:43] <pearson> can someone help me please
[00:43] <Jordan_U> AdmiralDeath: How much RAM do you have?
[00:43] <AdmiralDeath> 2 GB
[00:43] <cc4> any bandwidth limiter for ubuntu?
[00:43] <giiker> AdmiralDeath: :=) can you boot from a USB drive?
[00:43] <yaaar> pearson: probably not until you tell us what you need help with...
[00:43] <MK13> yaaar, i wish i could look at my grub.cfg and help you out but that is the best i can do... and i g2g for now so hope someone else can help you
[00:44] <AdmiralDeath> I have no idea how to boot an iso from usb
[00:44] <randomusr> RDP to my Windows 7 box is slooowww... Any way to speed it up?
[00:44] <yaaar> MK13: ok, well thanks for giving it a shot. cheers
[00:44] <pearson> every time i boot i have to go in recovery
[00:44] <Jordan_U> yaaar: What problem are you having?
[00:44] <giiker> AdmiralDeath: nowadays linux distros come with a tool to install to a USB drive.
[00:44] <powertool08> cc4: Maybe pyshaper will work for you?
[00:44] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: make sure that your motherboard supports booting from usb (and that your BIOS is set accordingly)
[00:44] <giiker> AdmiralDeath: like Fedora, Ubuntu, and some more!
[00:45] <LizardK|ng> when i try to run alsamixer, i get "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory"
[00:45] <bappy2> i've seen this problem twice now ever, but I can't seem to figure out why I'm not able to execute a file that I see right in front of me: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/GqiEDt8h
[00:45] <korcan> soreau, where can I find a ppa?
[00:45] <AdmiralDeath> I am not sure if it supports it the computer is 5 years old
[00:45] <soreau> ! ppa
[00:45] <yaaar> Jordan_U: i just installed 9.10 on this hp pavilion dv6000 and it won't boot. i get to grub and every option (once i take out the quiet bits) gives me "error: Couldn't open file"
[00:46] <AdmiralDeath> this is the 4th disk I have burned. The 2 server iso's had corrupt files and the 64 bit desktop failed to mount something and now I am trying 32
[00:46] <yaaar> Jordan_U: i googled some but didn't find anyone with the same issue...found some folks with other weird boot problems who suggested adding 'noapic nolapic' to the kernel line....but that didn't do anything. also booted the livecd, mounted/chrooted into the system and reinstalled grub with no luck
[00:46] <yaaar> oh, and i checked the disc for errors as well
[00:47] <LizardK|ng> ugh, i shouldn't have tried to install the new ppa version
[00:47] <LizardK|ng> of alsa
[00:47] <delac> AdmiralDeath: did you burn those disks with the same drive you are trying to read them?
[00:47] <AdmiralDeath> no
[00:47] <cc4> pyshaper is not on the repository
[00:47] <delac> AdmiralDeath: well it might be compatibility issue
[00:47] <AdmiralDeath> hmm
[00:47] <AdmiralDeath> ok
[00:47] <giiker> AdmiralDeath: if you have burnned ISOs before and they worked, then yur CDrom might be saying bye bye! a box 5 years old might still be able to boot from USB drive
[00:47] <delac> AdmiralDeath: i have stumbled upon that few times
[00:47] <powertool08> cc4: You have to build it from source, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993210
[00:48] <Jordan_U> yaaar: May be a BIOS bug if your BIOS can't read past a certain point in large drives. But then you usually get an "out of disk" error.
[00:48] <delac> AdmiralDeath: not all burned cds seem to work on other drives
[00:48] <yaaar> Jordan_U: so, figure i create a separate /boot partition at the front of the drive?
[00:48] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: did you burn on DVD or CD? Try burning on CD (if you burnt on DVD before). Try a slow speed burning, md5 the hash of the disc contents after burning etc...
[00:48] <giiker> AdmiralDeath: haave you checked the checksums after downloading them?
[00:48] <AdmiralDeath> so I am going to have to install windows to burn a cd?
[00:48] <giiker> AdmiralDeath: and after burning them?
[00:49] <AdmiralDeath> yes I checked them
[00:49] <giiker> I changed the passphrase of my private key file (with ssh-keygen -p)in my client box, but when login in to the remote server through SSH, my new  passphrase is not recognized. I can keep changing the passphrase, but it is not being recognized?!!
[00:49] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: can't you order an Ubuntu disc from launchpad anymore (and wait a little)?
[00:49] <bappy2> Has anyone ever seen this, where you get a file not found error when trying to execute it ? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hm7qg97y
[00:49] <yaaar> AdmiralDeath: you are burning the image as an image, right? like, not just burning the image file to the disc?
[00:49] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: maybe they stopped shipping them, but they sent out ubuntu discs for free
[00:49] <MK13> yaaar, real quick check the entries given here and see if anything is missing/wrong https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[00:50] <Jordan_U> yaaar: It's worth a try eventually but first you should try doing some testing in the grub shell, for instance use "ls /boot" to see if your kernels are listed.
[00:50] <colorlessprism> d_b_d, they still do, though they have been down for the last week or so
[00:50] <ZykoticK9> bappy2, are you using 64bit ubuntu?
[00:50] <colorlessprism> d_b_d, shipit
[00:50] <delac> AdmiralDeath: do you have cds or dvds from different manufacturers?
[00:50] <bappy2> no, 32 bit
[00:50] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[00:50] <AdmiralDeath> no I dont
[00:50] <delac> AdmiralDeath: cause that might solve the problem
[00:50] <AdmiralDeath> I only have a spool of 100 DVDS
[00:50] <Jordan_U> yaaar: Can you be on IRC and at the grub shell at the same time?
[00:50] <ZykoticK9> bappy2, ok just checkin'
[00:50] <delac> AdmiralDeath: damn
[00:50] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: then you're sure it's not you're writer
[00:51] <AdmiralDeath> yes I am sure
[00:51] <AdmiralDeath> I have tried both drives
[00:51] <bappy2> ZykoticK9: i tested the same mongodb tarball (double checked the MD5 hash) on another ubuntu install (hardy), and it worked just fine
[00:51] <bappy2> both are 32 bit
[00:51] <jt76> AdmiralDeath: what program are u using to burn the iso?
[00:51] <guitarguy> anybody figured out plymouth issue under nvidia proprietary?
[00:51] <AdmiralDeath> Windows 7 iso burner
[00:52] <ZykoticK9> bappy2, sorry i don't have any suggestions if you're running 32 (was just going to suggest ia32-libs if you where on 64)
[00:52] <bappy2> hmm .. is there a way to confirm how many bits your processor is from ubuntu ?
[00:52] <bappy2> (my box is a virtual slice, maybe i got it wrong)
[00:52] <ZykoticK9> bappy2, "uname -m"
[00:52] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: try switching to runlevel 3 while the install fails/hangs (ctrl + alt + f3). Check the error logs
[00:52] <bappy2> x86_64
[00:52] <bappy2> lol
[00:52] <guitarguy> anybody figured out plymouth issue under nvidia proprietary?
[00:53] <ZykoticK9> bappy2, that's 64!  install the ia32-libs
[00:53] <Typos_King> bappy2:    lshw -C cpu;
[00:53] <guitarguy> i would really like the ubuntu splash to work properly
[00:53] <AdmiralDeath> it does not hang at all
[00:53] <Jordan_U> !lucid | guitarguy
[00:53] <Pici> guitarguy : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[00:53] <max_rb>  /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness: Directory nonexistent
[00:53] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: where does it fail then (specific?)
[00:53] <AdmiralDeath> it doesnt
[00:54] <max_rb> when i tried to run  sh video_brightnessup.sh
[00:54] <AdmiralDeath> it burns fine and it hangs when I try to install linux on a seperate box
[00:54] <bappy2> ia32-libs .. lets a 64 bit process run 32bit programs ?
[00:54] <max_rb> my fn key does not works
[00:54] <ZykoticK9> bappy2, yes - basically
[00:54] <jt76> AdmiralDeath: do you format the seoerate box before install? (if it evne gets that far in the install)
[00:54] <giiker> bappy2: it has to with your search path
[00:54] <bappy2> because i can also download the 64 bit version of this program
[00:55] <guitarguy> Jordan_U: not helping, and the bug at launchpad is set to low level of importance, i dont think it would be solved by the ubuntu developers, because it doesnt affect system performance, and it targets only nvidia users
[00:55] <AdmiralDeath> I tell it to install and it is sitting at the blinking cursotr
[00:55] <AdmiralDeath> cursor*
[00:55] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: when it hangs (when installing) try pressing ctrl+alt+f3 (that should take you to runlevel 3). list what you see here
[00:55] <JRCARR2> hey, anyone ever hear of a soft token file for vpn?
[00:55] <bappy2> Typos_King: just checked, looks like i'm def. on a 64 bit processor
[00:55] <LizardK|ng> how do i tell alsa what my soundcard is?
[00:55] <AdmiralDeath> ok
[00:55] <AdmiralDeath> it says
[00:55] <bappy2> learned a new command today: lshw :)
[00:55] <JRCARR2> and any ideas of how to use my software token file for vpn on ubuntu?
[00:56] <Hariharakadan> Babby2: Grats.
[00:56] <giiker> I changed the passphrase of my private key file (with ssh-keygen -p)in my client box, but when login in to the remote server through SSH, my new  passphrase is not recognized. I can keep changing the passphrase, but it is not being recognized?!!
[00:56] <Hariharakadan> Do you know how to pipe it to html yet? :)
[00:56] <cc4> how can I select my tvtuner on mythtv? I have 2 pci devices installed.
[00:57] <AdmiralDeath> mouting failed on dev/loop0
[00:57] <cc4> I am using the --device command with tvtime
[00:57] <AdmiralDeath> on filesystem.squashfs
[00:57] <bappy2> ok, installed ia32-libs
[00:57] <AdmiralDeath> no such device exists
[00:58] <AdmiralDeath> now what?
[00:58] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: may be a broken disc according to http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/mandriva-linux-help/26241-cd-crashes-invalid-argument-mount-dev-loop0-solved.html (I would try taking out the cdrom / dvd players one by one)
[00:59] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: a broken cd-romplayer I meant (not really a disc)
[00:59] <AdmiralDeath> I only have on in the computer I am trying to install linux on
[00:59] <bappy2> ZykoticK9: that was spot on diagnosis the first time
[00:59] <AdmiralDeath> one*
[00:59] <AdmiralDeath> hmm
[00:59] <yaaar> Jordan_U: sorry had to go afk for a minute. the troublesome computer is in the next room, so i've been employing a bit of sneakernet...anyway, i can do ls /boot no problem, shows the files.
[00:59] <ZykoticK9> bappy2, glad you got it working
[00:59] <bappy2> thanks guys
[00:59] <AdmiralDeath> I will see if I can find the extra CD drive we have
[00:59] <AdmiralDeath> brb
[01:00] <sp0spo> what do i do when ubuntu won't reboot nor shutdown with shutdown -h now
[01:01] <Jordan_U> yaaar: Try typing in the linux and initrd commands from your grub.cfg directly into the grub shell (you can replace root=UUID= with root=/dev/sdXX to be easier to type)
[01:01] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: ok, I'll try to stay on this channel. I have no experience with this specific error but I should be able to help you through general linux troubleshooting
[01:01] <cc4> on mythtv is shows no tvtuner cards, while it works with tvtime
[01:01] <cc4> what's wrong?
[01:01] <XuMuK> hi there, is ther some GUI app that can recover files deleted by rm command?
[01:01] <jt76> sp0spo: try sudo shutdown -r now
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> cc4, did you setup the card using mythtv-setup command?
[01:01] <cc4> no
[01:02] <sp0spo> jt, same thing
[01:02] <cc4> ok I will thanks ZykoticK9
[01:02] <d_b_d> XuMuK: try photorec (enable all repositories) (stop using the disk NOW)
[01:02] <d_b_d> XuMuk: btw its text GUI (ncurses; does that count ;)
[01:02] <d_b_d> XuMuk: otherwise use Foremost
[01:02] <sp0spo> okay, somehow i got it to shutdown
[01:02] <mazda01> after i've compiled something from source, can I just delete the /usr/local/src/xbmc folder? I am asking because it's taking up a lot of room. when I hit sudo make install I say a bunch of messages saying that it was copying files to system locations.
[01:03] <d_b_d> XuMuK: but unmount the disk now (or you'll lose data)
[01:03] <XuMuK> d_b_d, shal I boo t from Live CD for thtat? o_O
[01:03] <mazda01> the same question goes for armyops. it's taking up a mass amount of room.
[01:03] <lavatory> butt
[01:03] <yaaar> Jordan_U: the linux command gives the same "error: Couldn't read file" (and of course the initrd command fails because there's no kernel loaded"
[01:04] <d_b_d> XuMuK: that's possible yes (after booting edit /etc/apt/sources.list as sudo root and uncomment all sources; then issue sudo apt-get update ; then install diskutils (sudo apt-get install diskutils) and then run photorec on the partition)
[01:04] <LizardK|ng> can someone help me get my sound working again?  i think i'm just making things worse
[01:04] <emmanuel_> Hello
[01:05] <Typos_King> mazda01:    I'd say yes, since it's already compiled to binary, the source objects aren't needed for executing it
[01:05] <emmanuel_> I'm using ubuntu 9.10
[01:05] <jasmuz> LizardK|ng: what is your problem?
[01:05] <asmodeus_dhoine> wow, it's busy here!
[01:05] <emmanuel_> firefox 3.6.3 and sun-java6-plugin
[01:05] <d_b_d> XuMuK: you may need to mount the partition you want to recover FROM manually (as the destiation where you want to save the files). When you google photorec tutorial you should be able to find a tutorial
[01:05] <dburke> So, I have a question that could probably be answered pretty fast; where is the configuration that makes the xserver start upon logging in.  I would like my user to be kicked to a command line so that I will have to manually start the xserver.
[01:05] <jasmuz> emmanuel_: ask your question in one line please.
[01:05] <AdmiralDeath> ok I am trying the install on another drive
[01:05] <emmanuel_> and when I open window with an applet I cannot close the window
[01:05] <emmanuel_> some body knows why?
[01:05] <lavatory> turd
[01:05] <cc4> ZykoticK9: how can I set the video device on the myth-setup? I place video1 instead of video0 but it still says aboyt my webcam
[01:06] <AdmiralDeath> looks like that was it
[01:06] <LizardK|ng> jasmuz, no sound, i asked earlier why sometimes i need to restart an app to get the sound to come back in it and was told to upgrade alsa to 1.0.23 from 1.0.22.1 and i just ended up losing all sound and karmic doesn't see my soundcard anymore
[01:06] <AdmiralDeath> lots faster this time
[01:06] <lavatory> shit
[01:06] <asmodeus_dhoine> could anyone help me to solve this low free space issue with Ubuntu casper persistent install?
[01:06] <ZykoticK9> cc4, i'm really not sure - myth is on my htpc (which i'm not on) you might want to ask in the mythbuntu channel though.  Good luck.
[01:06] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: hopes it works for you
[01:06] <jasmuz> dburke: you could disable the startup of the Xserver yourself, or make your account go into a terminal mode.
[01:06] <IdleOne> !language > lavatory
[01:06] <d_b_d> AdmiralDeath: shiny new ubuntu installation coming up soon ;-)
[01:06] <JRCARR2> I give up
[01:06] <mazda01> Typos_King, ok, armyops i am not sure what I can delete. it installed itself with a foo.run file. and within /usr/local/games/armyops/   there is a ton of folders.
[01:07] <d_b_d> JRCARR2: never give up; what's the problem
[01:07] <dburke> How do I do that?  Is there a config file I should be looking at?
[01:07] <jasmuz> LizardK|ng: your soundcard should be listed, check under lspci
[01:07] <emmanuel_> I'm using ubuntu 9.10, firefox 3.6.3 and sun-java6-plugin, when I open window java applet, I cannot close it. somebody knows why?
[01:07] <JRCARR2> I apparently need to use something called "software key authentication" or "soft key authentication" to connect via vpn...
[01:07] <LizardK|ng> jasmuz, its there but alsa doesn't see it
[01:07] <d_b_d> emmanuel_: which java
[01:07] <JRCARR2> but i cannot find how to do it in linux :(
[01:08] <Jordan_U> yaaar: Could you run "md5sum /boot/linux..." for one of your kernels and confirm that it matches what's seen in the booted system?
[01:08] <dburke> jasmuz: How should I do that? Is there a config file I should use?
[01:08] <d_b_d> emmanuel: tell me the output of running that under terminal
[01:08] <jasmuz> dburke: honestly i can't remember how i use to do it.
[01:08] <Typos_King> mazda01:    what you can do is, firstly, rename it ->  mv   games cheeseburger;    then run the app/game again, to see if it goes ok, and if it does, then hose it :)
[01:08] <cc4> how can I save the tv tuner I defined on mythtv-setup please?
[01:09] <jasmuz> LizardK|ng: If its listed, why are you using alsa instead of pulseaudio?
[01:09] <cc4> video1
[01:09] <LizardK|ng> jasmuz, boxee doesn;t like pulseaudio
[01:09] <sje46> utube ripper isn't working =/
[01:09] <sje46> whenever I double click on it nothing loads
[01:09] <Pici> JRCARR2: fyi, if you have the .pcf file for your vpn configuration, you can import it into network manager's vpn thing.
[01:10] <LizardK|ng> jasmuz, can you help me with alsa?
[01:10] <jasmuz> LizardK|ng: there is a alsa to pulseaudio stream if im not mistaken
[01:10] <LizardK|ng> jasmuz, can you help me with alsa?
[01:10] <LizardK|ng> forget about pulseaudio
[01:10] <JRCARR2> Pici... yeah, the problem is we dont use pcf.. they use a file with the extension .sf
[01:10] <nishanth> anyone familiar with winehq?
[01:10] <Pici> nishanth: The #winehq channel is
[01:10] <ZykoticK9> LizardK|ng, have you tried "pauspender BOXEE_EXECUTABLE"
[01:10] <dburke> haha
[01:10] <emmanuel_> I'm using java6
[01:11] <zuke> Need some help with grub after a fresh Mandriva install
[01:11] <JRCARR2> Pici, where are pcf files generally located at?
[01:11] <aetaric> JRCARR2: rsa's soft key doesn't work on linux
[01:11] <dburke> Can anyone point me to a config file that determines whether the xserver starts upon login?
[01:11] <LizardK|ng> ZykoticK9, no, why would i need to do something to boxee that i didn;t need to do before and when sound doesn't work before boxee even starts?
[01:11] <emmanuel_> d_b_d: let me run firefox in a terminal, wait please!!
[01:11] <d_b_d> emmanuel_: does the same thing happen with the latest opera? (seeing if this is really java-related vs browser-related)?
[01:12] <tripelb> Problem: computer does not recognize ethernet signal, ie port. I have some data re it now. PLEASE !
[01:12] <Pici> JRCARR2: I'm not sure.  I got a .pcf file and a windows executable from my network admin, I was happy that I could load the pcf file with n-m
[01:12] <jasmuz> dburke: how about checking out init.d?
[01:12] <yaaar> Jordan_U: the grub shell doesn't know 'md5sum'
[01:12] <LizardK|ng> i don't even have a "pauspender" command
[01:12] <dburke> jasmuz: isn't that a folder?
[01:12] <jasmuz> dburke: Install BUM (Boot Up Manager) and disable the xserver if you may.
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> dburke, if you want to disable GDM on startup see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/boot-to-console---disable-graphical-login-gdm
[01:13] <jasmuz> dburke: Of course.. init.d is a folder, which holds all the init scripts
[01:13] <Jordan_U> yaaar: Seems that command was added in 1.98 :(
[01:13] <skoorc8> hi... i would really appreciate some help
[01:13] <d_b_d> @JRCARR2: may be far fetched but have you tried renaming the .sf to .pcf and try enabling that (hurray for Juniper Netscreen VPNS for running on other OS'es then Windows)
[01:13] <dburke> ZykoticK9: Nah, I like GDM.  I want to disable the xserver
[01:13] <emmanuel_> yes, it's the same with opera and google chrome
[01:13] <dburke> zasmuz:  Thanks. :)
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> dburke, GDM more or less is xserver -- what are you really asking?
[01:13] <LizardK|ng> jasmuz, so you only know about pulseaudio?
[01:13] <JRCARR2> d_b_d, good thought...
[01:13] <tripelb> Cant see internet signal, ethernet viz: I have collected the info that was asked for last night. ((Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
[01:14] <tripelb> Dhcp Server: 	192.168.1.254
[01:14] <tripelb> Physical Address: 	00:0C:F1:E8:CE:04 )) and I am looking at the lspci results on the screen NOW.
[01:14] <Jordan_U> !details | zuke
[01:14] <dburke> ZykoticK9: I would like the xserver to not start upon login.  I want my user to be booted to a cli
[01:14] <jasmuz> LizardK|ng: I stopped working with alsa a while ago, when Ubuntu pushed pulse into the distro
[01:14] <yaaar> Jordan_U: anyway i doubt the kernel image is the problem. in particular, the memtest image does the same thing
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> dburke, then disable GDM!
[01:14] <zuke> ok Jordan_U
[01:15] <JRCARR2> d_b_d, I'll try... worse comes to worse, I'll just have to use linux atr work and use windows at home if I need to be on the corporate network
[01:15] <jasmuz> LizardK|ng: and since Boxee isn't provided by the repo's i can't account for it either.
[01:15] <LizardK|ng> jasmuz, alsa is though, i'm not asking for boxee help at all
[01:15] <dburke> ZykoticK9:  Do you have a term or keyword/file that could help me understand more about why that's the case?
[01:15] <Jordan_U> yaaar: It wasn't to test that the kernel image was correct, it was to test that grub is reading the file properly (i.e. if the md5sum matches what linux sees)
[01:15] <zuke> Ubuntu 10.04/Fedora12/Mandriva2010.0 installed on WD External USB HDD when I do the update grub after Mandriva installation, Mandriva shows up in the appropriate place but doesn't point to a kernel image like Ubuntu and Fedora do
[01:15] <ZykoticK9> dburke, GDM is the GUI Xorg launcher
[01:16] <yaaar> Jordan_U: oh, i follow
[01:16] <dburke> ZykoticK9, zasmuz:  Thanks.
[01:16] <d_b_d> @JRCARR2: If your network admins are OK with it then just map a high remote port at your firewall for an SSH tunnel (then mount the windows shares as SMB/CIFS manually)
[01:16] <tripelb> I've asked this politely 3 times today at intervals hours apart. I'm trying to get computer #3 to connect to internet and it doesnt register connected. Ubuntu 9.04 LiveCD.  Ditto when I add a PCI ethernet card. (je vous en prie)
[01:16] <jasmuz> LizardK|ng: check these out--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012
[01:16] <iflema> dburke add the word    text    to the following line in /etc/default/grub  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[01:17] <skoorc8> i am running firefox 3.5.9 on ubuntu 9.10... when i try to preview a post in wordpress the php file doesn't load in the browser... I am asked to save it instead... in fact this happens on most sites with php
[01:17] <skoorc8> when i change the option to open it with firefox... multiple tabs open and i have to close firefox stop it
[01:17] <skoorc8> what can i do to fix this problem???
[01:17] <LizardK|ng> so the snd_hda_intel kernel module is loaded
[01:17] <zuke> It gives me the option to boot it, but when selected is says "no such location" "no such partition" "you need to load the kernel first"
[01:17] <mazda01> Typos_King, cool thanks
[01:18] <gunksta> tripleb: you won't always get an answer. Not sure what you mean by computer #3, but do you have an IP address / is your hardware being recognized?
[01:18] <geoffreyboutroy_> hello
[01:18] <LizardK|ng> jasmuz, thanks for the info on PULSEAUDIO which i'm NOT using!
[01:18] <geoffreyboutroy_> hello
[01:18] <jasmuz> LizardK|ng: don't be sarcastic, im trying to give you a way out.
[01:19] <LizardK|ng> i'm just frustrated because it was working about 90% and now its at like -50%
[01:19] <jrib> skoorc8: that's a server problem, it has nothing to do with your browser
[01:19] <gunksta> I like to use terminator as my primary terminal. I usually start it via Alt+F2. I'd like to find the equivalent of bash aliases for X. I prefer to use terminator with -mb. I have this in .bash_alias but Alt+F2 apparently doesn't check this.
[01:20] <gunksta> I'd like to type in Terminator and have it do terminator -mb
[01:20] <skoorc8> well when i try to post from another computer in the house it works seemlessly
[01:20] <jrib> gunksta: write a small script, put it in ~/bin, log out, log back in
[01:20] <mr_fribble> How do I create a new admin user through ssh?
[01:20] <skoorc8> so it has to be related to my setup
[01:20] <jrib> mr_fribble: create a new user (adduser), add the user to the admin group (adduser USERNAME admin)
[01:20] <gunksta> jrib - that's a good point. I've got a few other things in !/bin
[01:21] <gunksta> I meant ~/bin
[01:21] <jrib> gunksta: no need to log out and back in then
[01:21] <Jordan_U> yaaar: You probably won't be able to see the output well enough to do much good, but try running "set debug=disk" before the linux command or add it to your grub.cfg.
[01:21] <mr_fribble> thank you jrib
[01:21] <jrib> skoorc8: it's a server issue
[01:21] <snarkster> Is there a howto fro grub2
[01:21] <LizardK|ng> can anyone help me get ALSA without pulseaudio working in karmic?
[01:22] <jrib> skoorc8: either that or you aren't describing the problem accurately
[01:22] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > snarkster
[01:22] <skoorc8> jrib: what tools can i use to see what my browser is sending to the server?
[01:22] <jrib> skoorc8: you see php code correct?
[01:22] <skoorc8> don't understand your question
[01:23] <mr_fribble> jrib: it says adduser: The group `admin' does not exist. when I try adding my new user to the admin group.
[01:23] <jrib> skoorc8: when you open the php file, do you see php tags?
[01:23] <jrib> mr_fribble: what distro are you using?
[01:23] <skoorc8> i don't see anything in the file
[01:23] <snarkster> So far I've just found a descriptive howto not a step by step howto
[01:23] <mr_fribble> ubuntu 9.04
[01:23] <jrib> mr_fribble: that's not possible, ubuntu has an admin group
[01:24] <mr_fribble> it is a vps server
[01:24] <ZykoticK9> mr_fribble, "cat /etc/group" and verify that admin is listed
[01:24] <jrib> mr_fribble: not a proper ubuntu install then
[01:24] <ZykoticK9> mr_fribble, VPSs can do strange things!
[01:25] <exigraff> skoorc8: use the Tamper Data addon for Firefox to watch requests/responses
[01:25] <iflema> tripelb if you have another cable try using that (swap maybe) confirm the intergrity of the cable.... also hold it end to end, are the wires (colours) in the same order on both sides????
[01:25] <mr_fribble> is adm same as admin?
[01:25] <Ddot> Hey folks! I'm a complete Ubuntu newb and in need of some assistance. Having some issues loading the new OS.
[01:25] <User_007> I can't get Ubuntu CDs anymore. If i join a LoCo can i continue getting CDs?
[01:25] <jrib> Ddot: just ask
[01:25] <d_b_d> Ddot: what's the question?
[01:26] <ZykoticK9> User_007, if you become an Ubuntu-Member (not easy) you can.  Or just buy them.
[01:26] <mr_fribble> ZykoticK9, I see adm in there, is that the same thing?
[01:26] <skoorc8> exigraff: ok i will check it out... thanx
[01:26] <jrib> User_007: most LoCos get a shipment of CDs and I'm sure you also find lots of friendly people willing to burn you one if you can't for some reason
[01:26] <jrib> mr_fribble: it's not the same thing, no
[01:26] <exigraff> skoorc8: np
[01:26] <jrib> mr_fribble: pastebin your /etc/sudoers
[01:26] <max_rb> Ddot, from where are you/
[01:26] <ZykoticK9> mr_fribble, can't answer that i'm affraid - you are using a non-standard ubuntu for sure
[01:26] <max_rb> ?
[01:27] <Ddot> I am in Oklahoma
[01:27] <Ddot> One sec
[01:27] <yaaar> Jordan_U: yeah, i don't think that told us anything. all the lines except the last couple were "disk.c:389 Reading `hd0,1'..." and then "disk.c:457 hd0,1 read failed" followed by "closing..."
[01:27] <ZykoticK9> mr_fribble, no not the same - i have an adm here as well
[01:28] <Ddot> I am trying to install Ubuntu on my desktop and it is halting my system and giving me this error: "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 353267..."
[01:28] <mr_fribble> What is the difference between adm and admin then?
[01:28] <Ddot> I've used the same disk and installed it on my laptop with no issues
[01:28] <jrib> mr_fribble: they are different groups, used for different things...
[01:28] <Jordan_U> yaaar: Is this an older machine?
[01:29] <d_b_d> @Ddot: sr0 is your floppy disk (try removing that - unplug it).
[01:29] <mr_fribble> I thought adm was short for admin, excuse me.
[01:29] <Ddot> My computer does not contain a floppy drive
[01:29] <yaaar> Jordan_U: couple years. it came with vista on it if that tells you anything
[01:30] <Tao> Wow
[01:30] <Tao> Thats alot of people
[01:30] <mr_fribble> Does anyone know why admin is not listed in my group list? When I do lsb_release -a, it shows Ubuntu 9.04 so I'm running the right distro...
[01:31] <taylor_> hi, im kind of a newb. Im trying to enable an aero-snap feature like that of W7 in Karmic Koala. I went into keyboard shortcuts and typed out a command I found online but it doesnt seem to be working. Some key shortcuts produce an error while others dont get a response at all. Any ideas?
[01:31] <Tao> I'm really a newb
[01:31] <Tao> Probably more so than you :p
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> mr_fribble, contact your hosting provider!  they'll know (they've probably removed it for some reason)
[01:32] <yaaar> Ddot: sr0 is probably your cdrom drive. floppies are usually fdX
[01:32] <jrib> mr_fribble: pastebin your /etc/sudoers and we'll tell you how to add a new admin user
[01:32] <yaaar> Ddot: in any case, the error usually points to a bad cd or bad drive: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678096
[01:32] <Ddot> Yes, I thought so. My cd-rom drive works fine and writes fine in Windows.
[01:32] <morphix> I am thinking about creating a local repo for ubuntu as i have about 7 workstations using ubuntu on the lan and the constant package updates is pointless. I am wondering if there is anyway i can find out the current sizes of karmic and lucid repos?
[01:32] <yaaar> Ddot: have you checked the cd out? (md5sum and/or the self-check?)
[01:33] <gogeta> morphix: huge
[01:33] <gogeta> lol
[01:33] <mazda01> anyone else using XBMC in ubuntu?
[01:33] <tripelb> iflema, iT IS THE SAME CABLE i AM USING FOR THIS ONE. i JUST UNPLUG IT HERE AND PLUG IT IN THERE.
[01:33] <mazda01> i don't have any scrapers in a newly compiled 9.11 xbmc in lucid
[01:33] <viator> is there a way for me to install this 32bit driver on my 64bit system
[01:33] <ChogyDan> morphix: you can setup a proxy, where only one computer downloads the files
[01:33] <Tao> Ok, can anyone help me with a problem? I downloaded Ubuntu .iso and burned it to a CD and booted it up on another computer
[01:33] <morphix> gogeta: yeh i know that much, but am after sizes
[01:33]  * Typos_King presses caps-lock for tripelb
[01:33] <Tao> I tried to install it and it went fine at first
[01:34] <tripelb> iflema, I was asked to look at the hardware. I have two reports, one from belarc (win) and one from lspci (now) - yesterday when it was late someone here asked me to do that.
[01:34] <mr_fribble> jrib: http://pastebin.com/PqJ92Ra5
[01:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> how can I open the "add /remove applications" in terminal?
[01:34] <gogeta> morphix: i beleve it takes 4 dvds
[01:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> whats the command for that?
[01:34] <tripelb> Typos_King, thanks
[01:34] <Tao> But then errors like "Buffer I/0 errors" started to pop
[01:34] <Tao> *up
[01:34] <Ddot> I am a current windows user, trying to install Ubuntu. I have done the drive check from the ubuntu menu, with no errors or problems found. But I'm not sure  how to check it any other way. It works perfectly in Windows.
[01:34] <tripelb> so much for touchtyping
[01:34] <Tao> Eventually it just froze up
[01:34] <morphix> ChogyDan: yeh but once the cache reaches the limit old cache files will be ditched.. i want a permanent repo available, especially since i do a lot of test benches too.. easier when installing to do a net install from a local repo
[01:34] <Typos_King> Sachse_Siechtum:     Id' think will be -> synaptic; or so
[01:35] <morphix> gogeta: for what? just for lucid repo? kamic?
[01:35] <ZykoticK9> morphix, my solution to your problem (used for my VMs) is to have a copy of /var/cache/apt/archives that i connect to with SSH and download from the one machine to the others
[01:35] <Ddot> Tao: It sounds like you are having the same issue i am
[01:35] <yaaar> Sachse_Siechtum: well, there isn't really a direct analogue. you probably want 'aptitude' though...try starting with 'aptitude search <app>'
[01:35] <Tao> And when I tried to install it again, all I got was a black screen with what looked like a blinking underscore
[01:35] <gogeta> morphix: looks up ubuntu repo dvd should give you sizes
[01:35] <jrib> mr_fribble: what user are you using to add new users now?
[01:35] <mr_fribble> root
[01:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> Typos_King, no I dont mean synaptic.. I mean the tab "add /remove applications" in the applications menu
[01:35] <taylor_> hi, im kind of a newb. Im trying to enable an aero-snap feature like that of W7 in Karmic Koala. I went into keyboard shortcuts and typed out a command I found online but it doesnt seem to be working. Some key shortcuts produce an error while others dont get a response at all. Can anyone help me with this?
[01:36] <Typos_King> Sachse_Siechtum:     I was under the impression that IS synaptic
[01:36] <ChogyDan> Sachse_Siechtum: software-center
[01:36] <ChogyDan> taylor_: does the command work from a terminal?
[01:36] <Appetite> I'm using connection sharing, and the recipient computer is not able to connect to the internet.... It is perfectly connected to the network, and has an ip from the dhcp server, but cannot ping google, for example. (Unknown host)
[01:37] <Sachse_Siechtum> ChogyDan, hmm this is not installed... *installing*
[01:37] <taylor_> ChogyDan: I haven't tried, but should I just copy the same command and into terminal? Or do I have to write a different syntax?
[01:37] <jrib> mr_fribble: your vps provider is silly... anyway, you should edit /etc/sudoers (use: sudo visudo) and add a line "%admin    ALL=(ALL) ALL" and create the admin group
[01:37] <gogeta> Appetite: you need to enable that on the linux machine people used to just give me a script on hear.
[01:37] <Typos_King> Tao:    is it installed still?  do you get a Grub menu at boot?
[01:37] <iflema> tripelb card(s) listed in lspci? if so try    ifconfig    in a terminal... is there a listing for eth0?
[01:38] <ZykoticK9> Appetite, verify on the guest machine that there is something reasonable in the /etc/resolv.conf
[01:38] <Tao> Typos_King: No, I don't
[01:38] <ChogyDan> taylor_: if you are going to have it run from a shortcut, it _must_ work in the terminal.  I found there is stricter syntax for the shortcut
[01:38] <Appetite> ZykoticK9: what should it contain? it says "nameserver 10.42.43.10"
[01:38] <johnjohn101> is it safe to load the kernels that are in kernel.ubuntu.com site?
[01:38] <gogeta> Appetite: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[01:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> ChogyDan, thanks. :-)
[01:38] <taylor_> ChogyDan: I just tried, it works in terminal, but the keyboard shortcut doesnt work
[01:38] <Tao> Typos_King: I don't think it installed
[01:38] <ZykoticK9> Appetite, that *seems* like it might be reasonable :)  good luck man
[01:39] <fardad> Typos_King: I installed the libglib2.0 and it worked
[01:39] <Ddot> From what I've read about this error, it seems like its a problem with CD-RW drives.
[01:39] <Typos_King> Tao:    it might have been an issue with the apm module, fixable by means of grub boot arguments, like noapic and acpi=off
[01:39] <ChogyDan> Sachse_Siechtum: yw
[01:39] <sje46> hey can someone help me?  I think I'm supposed to download a file or something
[01:39] <Appetite> ZykoticK9: ah, i'm not sure the problem, because it just stopped working recently
[01:39] <ChogyDan> taylor_: what is the command?
[01:39] <sje46> I downloaded utube ripper and whenever I double click on it it doesn't do anything
[01:39] <mr_fribble> jrib: there is a percent sign in front of admin?
[01:39] <taylor_> ChogyDan: WIDTH=`xdpyinfo | grep 'dimensions:' | cut -f 2 -d ':' | cut -f 1 -d 'x'` && HALF=$(($WIDTH/2)) && wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -b add,maximized_vert && wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -e 0,$HALF,0,$HALF,-1
[01:39] <sje46> so I tried it through the terminal and it says
[01:39] <jrib> mr_fribble: yes
[01:39] <jrib> !enter | sje46
[01:39] <ZykoticK9> Appetite, actually i'm unable to ping that address, can you?
[01:39] <sje46> ERROR: #27: Cannot load component 'gb.sdl.sound': cannot find library file
[01:39] <taylor_> ChogyDan: And then there is a similar one for moving the window to the left
[01:40] <Typos_King> fardad: heheh.... don't forget to make images for backups, for whenever something unexpectedly may occurr :)
[01:40] <gogeta> sje46: you dont need any extra apps to grab youtube. just add kick to the ur eh kickyoutube
[01:40] <ChogyDan> taylor_: hmm, wmctrl?
[01:40] <mr_fribble> jrib: I still get the same thing, admin group doesn't exit
[01:40] <mr_fribble> exist*
[01:40] <gogeta> url
[01:40] <jrib> mr_fribble: the last thing I said was "create the admin group"
[01:40] <sje46> gogeta, I feel uncomfortable using a third party site
[01:40] <taylor_> ChogyDan: What does that mean? To be honest, I just copied that command from a website, I do not know what it means at all.
[01:40] <gogeta> sje46: its more a script then a website
[01:41] <mr_fribble> so how do I create the admin group?
[01:41] <jimi_> Can someone recommend a blackboard softboard?
[01:41] <ChogyDan> taylor_: you had to have installed that.  it is a program that I happen to have used a little
[01:41] <fardad> Typos_King: hmm, I think I better do that ASAP. tnx again.
[01:41] <gogeta> sje46: does conversions to
[01:41] <jrib> mr_fribble: addgroup...
[01:41] <ZykoticK9> sje46, have you tried youtube-dl in the repo?
[01:41] <sje46> gogeta, it still uses outside servers though, right?
[01:41] <sje46> ZykoticK9, in the repo?  I dont know what that means?
[01:41] <taylor_> ChogyDan: It's installed
[01:42] <mr_fribble> thank you jrib
[01:42] <gogeta> sje46: i think if you convert it does but it uses the youtube sites itsself.
[01:42] <ZykoticK9> sje46, youtube-dl is an installable cli app for downloading youtube videos
[01:42] <mr_fribble> one more thing, i mistakenly added my new user to the adm group =/ how do I remove it from that group?
[01:42] <ChogyDan> taylor_: the problem I run into is that I couldn't just use the short form of commands.  I needed the whole path written out.  Maybe you can execute the whole thing in a bash shell?
[01:42] <sje46> ZykoticK9, right..  I actually downloaded that, but I dont want the whole videos, just the mp3s
[01:42] <taylor_> ChogyDan:
[01:42] <mouse> What's the most user friendly linux distro for a computer that has 64mbs of ram, 10gb hd, and intel pent 3 595mhz processor?
[01:42] <taylor_> ChogyDan: How do I do that?
[01:43] <sje46> I looked through the man too, and it doesn't have a just mp3 option
[01:43] <gogeta> mouse: puppy can run on a pc that small
[01:43] <gogeta> mouse: pretty quickly to
[01:43] <ZykoticK9> sje46, ahhh - my solution there would be to download the video and use "mplayer -ao pcm $FILENAME.flv" and convert the WAV to an MP3 - but that might be more work then your solution
[01:43] <mouse> gogeta, is it really user friendly though?
[01:43] <sje46> ZykoticK9, right, and whenever I bring up this problem, people suggest a solution like that
[01:44] <gogeta> mouse: it has its own repos and stuff
[01:44] <sje46> I just want a simple app or something that's like, one click
[01:44] <gogeta> mouse: i run it off a cd on my dead hdd dell c610
[01:44] <mazda01> i don't have any scrapers in a newly compiled 9.11 xbmc in lucid. i also can't set content within my video source? what gives?
[01:44] <mouse> gogeta, it will be for my mom and this will be her first linux box.
[01:44] <gogeta> mouse: well its no ubuntu but its easy enough
[01:44] <ChogyDan> taylor_: well, I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that you can put the command into a file, and then execute that against /bin/sh
[01:45] <mouse> gogeta, Alright.  Thank you.
[01:45] <ChogyDan> taylor_: so like this:    /bin/sh file_with_that_command.sh
[01:45] <gogeta> mouse: hears a video
[01:45] <gogeta> mouse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpTyjcx2Aew
[01:45] <sje46> but anyway, gogeta, should I download that thing?  How do I find it?
[01:46] <gogeta> sje46: just go to a youtube video you whant
[01:46]  * mouse clicks.
[01:46] <gogeta> sje46: then add kick to the url like http://www.clickyoutube.com/watch?v=VpTyjcx2Aew
[01:46] <sje46> gogeta, ...okay...I don't like where this is going
[01:46] <gogeta> lol oops
[01:46] <taylor_> ChogyDan: and I just make a normal file in gedit and save it as .sh? I save it into the bin folder?
[01:46] <Ddot> ok, I am getting "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block...." while trying to install ubuntu. Then my system locks up and my monitor posts and error saying "Out of Range". From what I've read, its an issue with ubuntu trying to write to the CD rather than the hard drive. I am pretty new to linux, but I'd like to find a workaround to install it on my system. I read a comment about changing a setting to make it a generic ide device, but
[01:46] <sje46> no, I already said I dont want to use a third party site
[01:46] <gogeta> like http://www.kickyoutube.com/watch?v=VpTyjcx2Aew
[01:47] <sje46> right, or abcyoutube.com.  But I don't want that
[01:47] <ChogyDan> taylor_: o yeah, good point.  Hmm, maybe just keep it in your home folder?  I dunno, somewhere where you can track it
[01:47] <Ddot> I've got an image of my error messages if that would help anyone.
[01:47] <taylor_> ChogyDan: Ok hold on, let me try this
[01:48] <gogeta> mouse: i cant get that link to load hears another
[01:48] <gogeta> mouse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5lLaQJWfw&feature=related
[01:48] <gogeta> mouse: its built for old machines or new machine to be fast
[01:48] <sje46> the executable is "utube.gambas".  And the error is ERROR: #27: Cannot load component 'gb.sdl.sound': cannot find library file .  Does ANYONE know what I'm supposed to do with that information?
[01:49] <ChogyDan> taylor_: there are two things I didn't tell you.  You need to chmod +x the file, and you need to write out the whole path in the final command
[01:50] <taylor_> ChogyDan: How do I do that? Sorry, Im a newb
[01:50] <mouse> gogeta, It'll be better than what she has now.  Her boyfriend installed xp on it.
[01:50] <gogeta> mouse: lol
[01:50] <mouse> gogeta, inorite
[01:50] <gogeta> mouse: its small and lightwight so old machines can handel it
[01:51] <ChogyDan> taylor_: just describe the situation, and I will craft the commands
[01:51] <gogeta> mouse: you clould install ubuntu threw alt installer but it will be slow
[01:51] <Ddot> ok, I am getting "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block...." while trying to install ubuntu. Then my system locks up and my monitor posts and error saying "Out of Range". From what I've read, its an issue with ubuntu trying to write to the CD rather than the hard drive. I am pretty new to linux, but I'd like to find a workaround to install it on my system. I read a comment about changing a setting to make it a generic ide device, but
[01:52] <taylor_> ChogyDan: Ok, so basically I just copied the commands I sent to you into gedit, saved them as .sh files in my downloads folder
[01:52] <mouse> gogeta, It should work then.  I showed her ubuntu and mint and different other things so she's all hyped about it.  Ubuntu on it will probably make it too slow.
[01:52] <taylor_> ChogyDan: Then I copied the location of the file into the keyboard shortcut command
[01:52] <ChogyDan> taylor_: ok, now: chmod +x the_file.sh
[01:52] <Typos_King> Ddot:     what.... version are you installing?
[01:52] <Ddot> 9.10
[01:53] <gogeta> mouse: its small to so you will have plenty of space left on that 10gb
[01:53] <Typos_King> Ddot:     and you're installing from cd to hd?
[01:53] <joshdreamland> I bought an 8GB hard drive to run Karmic off of persistently. However, Jaunty fails to make it behave persistently... or perhaps it just fails to boot persistently despite being asked correctly? I've read multiple reports of this. They seem to stem from people who tried to install persistently on USB's larger than 2GB. Was this ever corrected?
[01:53] <Ddot> Typos_King:  Correct.
[01:53] <mouse> gogeta, how big is it?
[01:53] <Typos_King> Ddot:     did you make partitions for root '/' and swap?
[01:53] <taylor_> ChogyDan: Alright now what?
[01:53] <gogeta> mouse: 100mb
[01:54] <mouse> gogeta, Wow, that's impressive.
[01:54] <Ddot> Typos_King: I have not been given the option to partition yet
[01:54] <ChogyDan> taylor_: ok, now in the shortcut, put: /bin/sh /home/user_name/downloads/the_file.sh
[01:54] <gogeta> mouse: well they use smaller apps. rather then open office they use abiword
[01:54] <gogeta> mouse: the videos shows you around a bit
[01:54] <Typos_King> Ddot:     .... sooooo, you went with the 'recommended' automatic installation?
[01:54] <mouse> gogeta, is the gui about the same as open office?
[01:55] <keyvan> i want my 'www-data' user to be able to read files from a folder belonging to the user 'git' ... how is that done?
[01:55] <Alan502> Is there any way i can compile turbo pascal on linux?
[01:55] <gogeta> mouse: abiword is pretty good
[01:55] <Typos_King> Alan502:   there are pascal compilers for *nix afaik
[01:55] <Ddot> Typos_King: Correct. I am a new linux user. Familiar slightly with the basics of how Linux theory works.
[01:56] <taylor_> ChogyDan: Alright I did that, it still doesnt work though.
[01:56] <Alan502> Typos_King, i was looking but found compilers only for object pascal, not turbo pascal :(
[01:56] <mouse> gogeta, Can puppy linux install through usb?  Her boyfriend did something to the disc drive and it doesn't work anymore.
[01:56] <ChogyDan> taylor_: does the command work in a terminal?  any error?
[01:56] <gogeta> mouse: it can install from anything
[01:56] <taylor_> ChogyDan: It works fine, with no errors
[01:56] <thewolf> join #ubuntu-us-al
[01:56] <mouse> gogeta, Cool.
[01:56] <Typos_King> Alan502:   there's also the Lazarus project, not sure how it's going thus far, but it's kinda like a pascal spinoff type, mind you that Delphi language is pretty much just pascal language with GUI stuff, and newer version and name :)
[01:57] <ChogyDan> taylor_: just not with a shortcut.  And you tried different keys?
[01:57] <gogeta> mouse: just dl the iso and use unetbooting to make it a usb
[01:57] <CarlFK> how do I search for PPAs?  like I am looking for jython 2.5
[01:57] <Alan502> Typos_King, yeah found it on the repositories :) but i think it only supports object pascal
[01:57] <taylor_> ChogyDan: Oh wait, you mean this command? ' /bin/sh /home/user_name/downloads/Aero-Snap/left.sh '?
[01:57] <gogeta> unetbottin
[01:57] <ChogyDan> taylor_: yes
[01:58] <mouse> gogeta, Alright.  Thank you.
[01:58] <brakkvatn> 1415 brukere...
[01:58] <taylor_> ChogyDan: Hold on sorry, I just realized that I forgot to type in my username. Let me try that
[01:58] <thewolf> file:///join%20%23ubuntu-us-al
[01:58] <Michael-D> Just a quick one if anybody has time. Is there a reason that the 64 bit of the lts will install side by side witn 7 and 32 will not?
[01:58] <ChogyDan> taylor_: actually, you may not the /bin/sh in front
[01:58] <Typos_King> Alan502:   well.... ahemm... you can run a DOS box in virtualbox and compile there I gather :|, don't think you'd be able to do it in WINE
[01:58] <ChogyDan> taylor_: (now that I think about it)
[01:58] <joshdreamland> Okay, the Karmic startup disk creator won't format my 8GB flash to its liking. I press "Format," it stalls for a moment, then still doesn't like it.
[01:58] <Typos_King> Ddot:     soooo, you install.... and ... it goes ok?
[01:59] <b1shop> what is the ubuntu gui installer called?
[01:59] <Ddot> Typos_King:  No, I cannot install. The moment I hit the install Ubuntu option, it gives me the error.
[01:59] <vortex> hola
[01:59] <Alan502> Typos_King, lol, yeah i think that would be the best solution, only my teacher chooses such a language >:(
[01:59] <vortex> una preguntota
[02:00] <ZykoticK9> b1shop, ubiquity (or similar)
[02:00] <b1shop> redhat's installer was called anaconda
[02:00] <Alan502> i blame on my teacher
[02:00] <taylor_> ChogyDan: Ok it works in terminal, but not in shortcuts
[02:00] <Alan502> Typos_King, but thanks, cya :)
[02:00] <Alan502> !es | vortex
[02:00] <Ddot> Typos_King: I have to do a hard reset in order to interrupt it and restart.
[02:00] <ChogyDan> taylor_: try removing the /bin/sh part
[02:00] <taylor_> ChogyDan: I did, still nothing
[02:00] <b1shop> ZykoticK9: do you know if it can be changed?  i.e.  i would like a linux distro to boot directly to a single gui application
[02:01] <ChogyDan> taylor_: sorry, Im out of ideas
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> b1shop, no idea (did you have a LP question about LiveCD about this?)
[02:01] <taylor_> ChogyDan: np, thanks for your help
[02:01] <Typos_King> Ddot:     ohhhh, you never get pass the initial splash menus..... retry and this time, once at the menus, press F6, for more boot options, and check acpi=off and noapic and maybe others , then press Enter to
[02:01] <Roasted> Is anybody really good at editing themes? I'm trying to do some config editing of one of Ubuntu's default themes and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong... can't seem to get the colors a certain way yet I don't know where else to edit.
[02:01] <b1shop> ZykoticK9: LP question?
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> b1shop, LaunchPad - never mind, guess that's a no :)  Good luck.
[02:02] <Typos_King> Alan502:   ahemm... I had turbo pascal 6, in college :P~
[02:02] <b1shop> thanks
[02:03] <Ddot> Ok, I was able to access the F6 menu. I'm going to retry with your suggestions.
[02:03] <hypnosis> How can I get clang on ubuntu?
[02:04] <ZykoticK9> b1shop, not sure if this helps at all but you might want to see the question https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/107979
[02:04] <gogeta> mouse: heh yea distros like puppy and dsl and great for old machines
[02:05] <Alan502> Typos_King, XD yeah, i'm a highschool junior and the teacher is using turbo pascal 7... but it's such a messy language! compared to python and other object oriented programming languages
[02:05] <Tao> Typos is ogne
[02:05] <Tao> *gone
[02:06] <gogeta> i forgot all abought this app who whanted to leech youtube again
[02:06] <Alan502> :( he left me talking to myself
[02:06] <Alan502> Alan502, right?
[02:06] <passingby> how so i create a desktop shortcut for getting a terminal?
[02:06] <gogeta> and im using it lol
[02:07] <brakkvatn> make me forget
[02:07] <Jordan_U> hypnosis: sudo apt-get install clang
[02:07] <Alan502> passingby, try... right clicking on the desktop
[02:07] <ZykoticK9> gogeta, sje46 was the youtube questioner
[02:07] <bushbaby> passingby: right click, new launcher, command: "terminal" no quotes.
[02:07] <gogeta> sje46: jdownloader is a great app it handels alot more then youtube to
[02:07] <hypnosis> Jordan_U, Hello, and no, clang isn't in the ubuntu karmic repositories.
[02:07] <hypnosis> Jordan_U, if it were, I wouldn't have come here.
[02:08] <johnjohn101> alan502, I'm surprised turbo pascal 7 still runs
[02:08] <sje46> thanks gogeta.  I found the package I was looking for.  I had to install the lucid one instaed of karmic, but it works, but now I'm working on another problem with the program
[02:08] <bane-o> hey there
[02:08] <passingby> thanks bushbaby but that did not work(btw i am on linux-mint)
[02:08] <gogeta> sje46: jdownload can do abought any site
[02:08] <gogeta> jdownloader
[02:09] <Jordan_U> hypnosis: Sorry, it's in lucid's. You can probably backport it.
[02:09] <bane-o> looking for the correct channel for nfs support on fedora 12/13
[02:09] <passingby> it says no such file or directory
[02:09] <bane-o> anyone help?
[02:09] <Alan502> johnjohn101, well, i guess, I barely know about the history of the language but it's awful in its syntax!
[02:09] <bushbaby> passingby: try asking on the mint irc channel? this is for ubuntu
[02:09] <sje46> thanks gogeta, I'll check it out if this doesn't work
[02:09] <ZykoticK9> !mintsupport > passingby
[02:09] <hypnosis> Jordan_U, I have no idea what "backport it" means.
[02:09] <passingby> i wanted to go there but did not know the room name, hence i came here, sorry for that
[02:10] <bane-o> looking for the correct channel for nfs support on fedora 12/13. can someone give me an irc server channel to join
[02:10] <bane-o> pls?
[02:10] <Pici> bane-o: #fedora
[02:10] <bane-o> on this server?
[02:10] <Pici> bane-o: yes
[02:10] <bane-o> thx
[02:11] <apow> guys, any idea why my 'm's get "cut off" on screen?
[02:11] <bane-o> join #fedora
[02:11] <bane-o> damn
[02:11] <apow> the rightmost "leg" of m
[02:11] <apow> doesn't show up
[02:11] <Ddot> Well, that didn't work.
[02:11] <dodddummy> how do you force ubuntu to start in safe mode?
[02:11] <apow> it's probably a fontconfig setting
[02:11] <ChogyDan> passingby: can you right click on the terminal link in the menu?
[02:11] <bushbaby> passingby: #linuxmint apparently according to official site
[02:11] <smith> how do i install software that is in a .tar.gz package?
[02:11] <apow> but I've messed around for sometime and can't find the solution
[02:11] <xangua> dodddummy: select safe mode in the grub menu
[02:11] <apow> :(
[02:11] <xangua> smith: what do you want to install¿¿
[02:11] <smith> hipo
[02:12] <Ddot> King_Typo: That didn't affect anything
[02:12] <Jordan_U> !prevu | hypnosis
[02:12] <kcaze__> i think i have some missing man pages, does anyone know how to install them?
[02:12] <dodddummy> xangua, ok.  how to you force the grub menu to show?
[02:12] <hypnosis> kcaze__, sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[02:12] <d3vlabs|ubuntu> day 2 on ubuntu
[02:12] <hypnosis> kcaze__, sudo apt-get install manpages
[02:12] <d3vlabs|ubuntu> feeling great
[02:12] <hypnosis> kcaze__, sudo apt-get install manpages-posix
[02:12] <xangua> smith: you can install hipo from the repositories
[02:12] <hypnosis> kcaze__, sudo apt-get install manpages-posix-dev
[02:12] <FloodBot4> hypnosis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:12] <d3vlabs|ubuntu> is there a fireworks alternative
[02:12] <d3vlabs|ubuntu> as in adobe fireworks
[02:13] <xangua> dodddummy: is where you select the OS
[02:13] <kcaze__> ok, thanks hypnosis
[02:13] <pinoyskull> hi how do you copy a file from svn to your local?
[02:13] <ZykoticK9> dodddummy, hold down SHIFT key (in Karmic)
[02:13] <smith> ok so i need to goto the synaptic package manager?
[02:13] <xangua> dodddummy: normally it says 'loadig grub', that is where you have to press Esc to show it; that if you only have one OS installed
[02:13] <jrib> pinoyskull: use scp
[02:14] <jrib> pinoyskull: erm, sorry, read "svn" as "ssh"
[02:14] <exigraff> d3vlabs|ubuntu: Inkscape is as close as you'll get
[02:14] <gogeta1> sje46: cant beleve i fotgot that is a linux app to lol. jdownloader can handel everything even conversion from video sites
[02:14] <d3vlabs|ubuntu> inkscape has support for transparent png?
[02:14] <dodddummy> ZykoticK9, thanks.  that's what i needed.
[02:14] <pinoyskull> anybody?
[02:14] <gogeta1> sje46: hence the name its java based
[02:15] <exigraff> d3vlabs|ubuntu: yes
[02:15] <LizardK|ng> aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[02:15] <chrisreich> test - please ignore
[02:16] <bushbaby> pinoyskull: svn co http:///etcetcetc...com/svnfolder
[02:18] <smith> thanks xangua ^^
[02:18] <dhaivat> hello everyone. I've just installed ubuntu on virtual box. The thing is I can't get full screen working. I've tried doing "install additions" from the devices menu, but, still, nothing. What's going on? How can I fix this? Oh yeah, using 9.10.
[02:19] <brakkvatn> upside in
[02:19] <dhaivat> so, anyone?
[02:19] <sasayins> how to know if a particular packages is already installed in my system, using apt?
[02:19] <dhaivat> (i gotta go to sleep pretty soon, so a answer iis needed) :)
[02:19] <brakkvatn> I agree
[02:20] <realcoolguy> dhaivat: So, when you run the 'install additions' do you get a cd on your virtual desktop?  You'll need to run the appropriate script from there.
[02:20] <dhaivat> realcoolguy: oh.
[02:20] <dhaivat> :)
[02:20] <xangua> sasayins: using apt i don't know but you can try aptitude search packagename
[02:20] <dhaivat> realcoolguy: which script?
[02:21] <IdleOne> sasayins: apt-cache policy package
[02:21] <mouse> Just to clarify does unetbootin have to be on the system that the os will be installed on?  Their instructions are a little hazy.
[02:21] <dhaivat> realcoolguy: ?
[02:21] <sasayins> xangua: thanks, ill try aptitude search
[02:21] <bushbaby> dhaivat: what ones are listed?
[02:21] <realcoolguy> dhaivat: either linux-x86 or 64bit depending upon which linux you installed.  Please be patient when asking questions :)
[02:21] <gogeta1> mouse: no it just makes a iso usb bottable
[02:21] <sasayins> IdoleOne: i should replace the package the package name?
[02:22] <IdleOne> sasayins: yes
[02:22] <mouse> gogeta1, Okay thank you.
[02:22] <mnaylor> quit
[02:22] <yablonda> later 'gator
[02:22] <sasayins> IdleOne: thanks a lot
[02:22] <Morydd> I'm suddenly having trouble with PHPMyAdmin. Error is #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[02:22] <dhaivat> realcoolguy: I ran autorun.sh by mistake, is that okay?
[02:22] <Morydd> I've not done any custom configuration for mySQL or anything.
[02:22] <IdleOne> sasayins: so apt-cache policy firefox will return the installed version
[02:22] <dhaivat> realcoolguy: (it seems to be doing fine)
[02:23] <sasayins> IdleOne: got it :-) thanks again.
[02:23] <k0d3g3ar> Morydd, sounds like a firewall issue within your host's configuration blocking the mysql port?
[02:23] <bushbaby> dhaivat: that should be fine.
[02:23] <realcoolguy> dhaivat: looks like it does some if then checking to determine which os you have, and should run the proper script.  Sounds like you're fine :)
[02:24] <Morydd> k0d3g3ar: this is my local install.
[02:24] <k0d3g3ar> Morydd, if you run nmap on the box, can you see mysql ports opened?
[02:24] <k0d3g3ar> Morydd, and do you have the appropriate user/ip level security set for this in MySQL tables?
[02:25] <DIL_> dil test
[02:25] <brakkvatn> dil dol
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[02:25] <XuMuK> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002222222222222000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[02:26] <FloodBot4> XuMuK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <Morydd> k0d3g3ar: not sure what that means. I've not done any custom config. Originally installed via synaptic, it recently stopped working.
[02:26] <maco> XuMuK: stop that please
[02:26] <Bam_Bam> I installed Win 7 on one of my drives and the ubuntu installer isn't even giving me the option to use the entire disk, any fix for this?
[02:26] <jhambo> Hi folks.  Kmail fails to launch with a segmentation fault.  The crash info is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419563/.  This started happening after I uninstalled amarok.  Could someone please help me to get kmail working again?
[02:27] <jhambo> I really don't want to have to reinstall from scratch just when I'm finally getting everything like I want it...
[02:27] <k0d3g3ar> morydd:  You need to research security in MySQL as a general practice if you are going to install it.  Or you'll get pwned real fast
[02:28] <k0d3g3ar> Morydd, however you might want to see if any other DB admin tool can access the database.  phpMyAdmin is really used when you don't have the level of access you have to the box (ie. shared hosting)
[02:28] <realcoolguy> jhambo: have you tried to do a 'reinstall' from synaptic on the kmail program?  You also could putting amarok back and seeing if it fixed your problem, if it does not, Amarok might not have been the cause.  If it does, you'll have to figure out which required piece amarok is taking with it.
[02:29] <IdleOne> Does rem-apt-repository work?
[02:30] <Morydd> k0d3g3ar: I use phpmyadmin because it's what I'm familar with on my hosting. I only use it local for web development stuff. I'm really not interested in learning to admin the mysql server. I'm trying to figure out why it suddenly stopped working normally.
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, "rem-apt-repository"?
[02:30] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: remove or delete the ppa
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, command not found
[02:31] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: add-apt-repository counter part is what I am looking for
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, that one i'm familiar with :)
[02:32] <randomusr> Anyone code code completely from a text editor?
[02:33] <h00k> randomusr: vim, yep.
[02:33] <ChogyDan> randomusr: unfortunately, I do
[02:33] <Ernandes> hum?
[02:33] <randomusr> Boring
[02:33] <randomusr> hehehe
[02:33] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - whats an alternative mirror for medibutu that is good
[02:34] <Wringo> hello
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  just a sec...
[02:34] <Peaches`> hello
[02:34] <hiexpo> ok
[02:35] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, if it's a PPA that you want to remove check out "sudo ppa-purge ppa:repository-name/subdirectory"
[02:35] <IdleOne> hiexpo: don't know sorry
[02:35] <Wringo> first time on this... liking ubuntu OS
[02:35] <hiexpo> ok
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html
[02:35] <mouse> What's the best way to know which of my usb devices is /dev/sdg1?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> mouse: sudo blkid
[02:39] <jrcarr2> how can I make an app launch in a new gnome-terminal?
[02:39] <mouse> Jordan_U, Thank you.
[02:39] <maco> jrcarr2: gnome-terminal -e
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> jrcarr2, "gnome-terminal -e command" maco beat me
[02:39] <tyo> asjsjsjsjs
[02:39] <Username10101000> Is there a fast auto typer for linux?
[02:40] <Jordan_U> mouse: You're welcome.
[02:40] <jrcarr2> thanks dudes and dudettes!
[02:40] <Jordan_U> Username10101000: You can make a quick program to make synthetic keypress events... why?
[02:41] <Username10101000> Trying to advertise
[02:41] <Username10101000> How do you do that anyways?
[02:41] <maco> what?
[02:44] <jrcarr2> how can I create an environment variable with a period in it? like foo.bar.baz=/home/jrcarr2/blah
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> jrcarr2:  i dont think bash allows .'s
[02:45] <h00k> jrcarr2: I don't know that you can
[02:45] <h00k> jrcarr2: you might want to ask in #bash to make sure
[02:45] <jrcarr2> it would appear you sirs are correct
[02:45] <AdmiralDeath> when a new version of ubuntu is released will I ahve to reinstall or will I be able to upgrade from within the OS?
[02:45] <jrcarr2> maybe I should use zsh instead?
[02:46] <jrcarr2> I know for certain bash 4.0 doesnt allow it
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> install bash 4 then?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> jrcarr2:  it dosent seem to  here.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> bash --version
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> GNU bash, version 4.1.5(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
[02:46] <jhambo> realcoolguy: I tried reinstalling with kpackagekit and that didn't help.  I had used aptitude to do a purge on amarok to try to get rid of the config files.  That also wanted to remove some stuff like networkmanager (why I can't understand).  Anyway, even after reinstalling kmail I still get the segmentation fault.
[02:47] <h00k> AdmiralDeath: you will be able to upgrade
[02:47] <AdmiralDeath> ok cool
[02:47] <AdmiralDeath> thanks
[02:47] <h00k> ubottu: tell AdmiralDeath about upgrade
[02:47] <jrcarr2> Dr_Willis, you said "it does seem to  here"
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> it dosent.. :)
[02:47] <jrcarr2> it dah
[02:47] <jrcarr2> *ah
[02:47] <jrcarr2> misread it :)
[02:48] <mcurran> Anyone know of an open source tool that has a bootloader copy and paste/install function like imageburn in windows.  I'm trying to make a huge multiboot USB for work with Wintech, Ubuntu, WinPE, etc.
[02:49] <tripelb> if
[02:49] <jasongnome> will ubuntu themes work in xubuntu?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> jasongnome:  ubuntu uses gnome, xubunut uses xfce.. 2 different but similer in ways desktops.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> jasongnome:  so the answer is 'partially'
[02:50] <jasongnome> thank you
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> jasongnome:  but not really :)
[02:51] <slckb0y> hi everyone :) is someone running Kubuntu in a virtual box pls ?
[02:51] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis, thanks
[02:53] <Peaches`> slckb0y: Virtualbox-ose?
[02:53] <slckb0y> vb running under win7
[02:54] <Peaches`> slckb0y: No, sorry.
[02:54] <slckb0y> i installed client additions and opengl seem to be activated but i can't use it for desktop effect acceleration
[02:55] <Peaches`> slckb0y: I don't think you'll be able to get the effects in virtualization
[02:56] <nicky> hi
[02:56] <nicky> can someone help me
[02:56] <h00k> !ask | nicky
[02:56] <slckb0y> it worked under ubuntu/compiz :'(
[02:56] <nicky> ok
[02:56] <ZykoticK9> slckb0y, VBox (OSE) with Ubuntu Host & Guests I can get compiz working *fairly* decently
[02:57] <tripelb> ((It's the same cable as here. I just unplug it and put it in the other computer.))  Hardware report: (win) Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Dhcp Server: 192.168.1.254   Physical Address: 00:0C:F1:E8:CE:04  --- lspci lists: Ethernet controler: Intel Corp 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Contorller (rev 01)  --- ifconfig:  looks a lot like this one but 0 flow since it is not plugged in.
[02:57] <tripelb> I've asked this politely 3 times today at intervals hours apart. I'm trying to get computer #3 to connect to internet and it doesnt register connected. Ubuntu 9.04 LiveCD.  Ditto when I add a PCI ethernet card. (je vous en prie)
[02:57] <slckb0y> me too :/ worked even really well i get 60fps with all effect, but under KDE i can only use Xrender wish is slow as hell
[02:57] <hanasaki> how do you install new themes in compiz that end in emerald?
[02:57] <nicky> I am having problems doing internet connection sharing between my computer which is running windows 7 and my netbook which is running ubuntu netbook remix. Netbook is wirelessly connected to internet and computer is connected to netbook via ethernet. First off eth0 keeps disconnecting. second off. i tried firestarter to do internet connection sharing it will say that eth0 is not connected. something is up i dont know
[02:57] <nicky> what.
[02:58] <ZykoticK9> !emerald | hanasaki
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki:  those are emerald themes.. not compiz themes.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki:  emerald is still in use.. but its proberly best to not mess with it any more.
[02:58] <hanasaki> where can you find compiz themes and hwo are they installed?
[02:59] <ZykoticK9> hanasaki, compiz doesn't have "themes"
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki:  compiz dosent really have themes.. you are using gnome, so check out various gnome themes.
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki:  check out the 'gnome-art' tool in the repos.. and themes in the repos.
[02:59] <maco> hanasaki: compiz has multiple window decorators. gtk window decorator uses normal metacity themes. kde window decorator uses normal kwin themes
[02:59] <maco> hanasaki: emerald is a no-longer-supported window decorator for compiz
[02:59] <nicky> anybody?
[03:00] <johnjohn101> is compiz going away?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki:  also check out the Bisingi theme packa for ubuntu ->   http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/bisigi-themes-ubuntu-1004-lucid-testing.html
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> johnjohn101:  not any time soon.. but i imagine someday it will
[03:00] <hanasaki> so system/appearance/install and get downloads of themes where?
[03:00] <ZykoticK9> johnjohn101, if you take into account Gnome3 - it might be
[03:00] <nicky> so nobody is willing to help little old me? =(
[03:00] <johnjohn101> it's cool but really just eye candy
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki:  install the 'gnome-art' tool, 'check the package manager  for themes'   and check that url i gave earlier
[03:01] <mcurran> anyone know of a imageburn replacement in ubuntu, finds bootloader on cd's and reinstalls them in different locations if necessary.
[03:01] <nicky> can anyone help me explain why i cant do internet connection sharing on ubuntu
[03:01] <hanasaki> thanks
[03:02] <mcurran> nicky - You can, it's just difficult to setup.
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> nicky:  ive found the ' right click and share' thing -- often dosent work properly for me. I always end up editing the smb.conf by hand and enabling the HOME share feature.
[03:02] <nicky> mcurran: How about something more fundamental. Why cant i connect directly to another computer using ethernet. it says eth0 disconected and will refuse to connect
[03:02] <mcurran> use dnsmasq
[03:02] <mcurran> ipmasq
[03:03] <nicky> i cant connect to my computer tho
[03:03] <nicky> it will say eth0 disconected
[03:03] <nicky> i need to fix that problem before worrying about ics
[03:03] <mcurran> I think you need to make the other machine use static ip
[03:03] <nicky> how do i do that
[03:03] <nicky> im on windows 7
[03:03] <nicky> on the other machine
[03:03] <mcurran> google it, i'm not sure.
[03:04] <nicky> why would it require static ip
[03:04] <DIL_> x over cable
[03:04] <nicky> if for instance i want to transfer files between two comptuers it shuold let me connect both computers automatically
[03:04] <mcurran> I don't know but that's what this tut says:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[03:05] <nicky> ok i shall try that
[03:05] <jeeez> how do i delete duplicate entries in the disks list?
[03:05] <h00k> nicky: if you're trying to connect machines directly, you have to set each of them statically
[03:05] <DIL_> x over cable
[03:05] <tripelb> No wired connection:  'm trying to get computer #3 to connect to internet and it doesnt register connected. Ubuntu 9.04 LiveCD.  Ditto when I add a PCI ethernet card. [03:06] <tripelb> ((It's the same cable as here. I just unplug it and put it in the other computer.))  Hardware report: (win) Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Dhcp Server: 192.168.1.254   Physical Address: 00:0C:F1:E8:CE:04  --- lspci lists: Ethernet controler: Intel Corp 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Contorller (rev 01)  --- ifconfig:  looks a lot like this one but 0 flow since it is not plugged in.
[03:06] <sasayins> how should I know that device drivers in my system?
[03:06] <maco> sasayins: lsmod
[03:07] <sasayins> maco: thanks, in lsmod output, what is the "Used by" column?
[03:08] <maco> sasayins: some modules depend on others. like a card-specific sound module may depend on a more-generic module to make the full driver
[03:08] <differentSmoke> hello everybody
[03:09] <hiexpo> !hello
[03:09] <jhambo> I did an `aptitude purge amarok` and now when I launch kmail I get a segmentation fault.  How can I fix this??
[03:09] <maco> jhambo: did you try reinstalling amarok to see if it's a coincidence?
[03:09] <differentSmoke> can anyone tell me how can I get my graphics card to work well in 9.1? it's an old MSI MX4000 T-128
[03:09] <differentSmoke> nvidia
[03:10] <sasayins> maco:thanks, so it means that some modules are using other modules, and it shows in the "Used by" column in lsmod output?
[03:10] <TomG> I need an opinion here.  Does having a short HD standby give MORE wear and tear because of the speed ups and downs often?
[03:10] <jhambo> maco: yah.  Doens't help
[03:11] <tripelb> going to plug into the other computer with the ethernet, just for fun.
[03:11] <arbo-> Can anybody help me with an X issue?
[03:11] <jhambo> I've just spent like two weeks configuring my system and now it looks like I need to reinstall becuase of these wierd bug in the dependencies...
[03:11] <jhambo> arbo-: just ask
[03:11] <maco> jhambo: sounds like an unrelated bug in kmail then. does DrKonqi come up and ask you to report it to bugs.kde.org?
[03:12] <maco> sasayins: right-o
[03:12] <h00k> !anybody | arbo-
[03:12] <jhambo> maco: yah
[03:12] <arbo-> :P
[03:12] <maco> jhambo: do that then. and then try making a new user and see if that user is able to run kmail. if so, something in your .kde is affecting it
[03:12] <arbo-> Just installed ubuntu and this laptop has an nvidia card so I installed nvidia drivers
[03:12] <arbo-> but
[03:12] <arbo-> now I can't see the terminal shell
[03:12] <arbo-> it works, but it's solid, no text.
[03:12] <sasayins> maco: thanks. so that number in the "Used by" column from lsmod output indicates the number of a particular module?
[03:13] <maco> sasayins: i think the number just tells you how many are to the right of it
[03:13] <jhambo> Aggg.  Okay I guess that makes sense
[03:13] <TomG> jhambo: Kmail uses Akonadi.  You didn't remove that, did you?
[03:13] <nicky> I am not understanding why this doesnt work. My ubuntu machine doesnt connect via ethernet to my windows 7 machine. i gave it static ip  192.168.0.1 and dns and default is also the same it still does not connect what am I doing wrong? (i set these settings on the windows machine)
[03:13] <jhambo> TomG: donno maybe lemme see
[03:13] <maco> sasayins: oh or what you said
[03:13] <maco> sasayins: since my hypothesis is clearly wrong
[03:14] <maco> sasayins: hrmph. i with the lsmod manpage told me this
[03:14] <sasayins> maco: oh yeah, thanks. is the word "module" the same as the word" "device driver"?
[03:14] <maco> sasayins: sorta... device drivers can be in many pieces, and those pieces are the modules
[03:14] <greezmunkey> I'm impressed: I haven't really ever needed Wine, But I downloaded an e-book (.pdf format) that had a signature. It raised heck with adobe reader. I loaded Wine, installed a copy of adobe pro, cleared the signature, and saved the file. Viola, problem solved. Imho Wine is pretty cool :)
[03:14] <h00k> sasayins: not necessarily, but modules can control devices
[03:15] <sasayins> maco: wow. sounds complicated.
[03:15] <maco> sasayins: but there are non-driver things that are modules too, like the ipv6 module that lets your do ipv6 networking
[03:15] <sasayins> h00k: i see.. thanks
[03:15] <maco> sasayins: but for example if you look for all the stuff that starts with "snd" ... that makes up your sound drivers
[03:15] <sasayins> maco: oh i see, that a module is not only a device driver
[03:16] <h00k> sasayins: correct :)
[03:16] <maco> sasayins: right
[03:16] <sasayins> maco: but device driver is in the form of a module?
[03:16] <josemoreira> hi
[03:16] <maco> sasayins: yes
[03:16] <sasayins> h00k, maco: thanks
[03:16] <jhambo> TomG: I reinstalled all the akonadi stuff just now but I still get the segmentation fault...
[03:16] <maco> sasayins: drivers *can* be built into the kernel, but thats not terribly convenient
[03:16] <josemoreira> any tip on how to burn an osx img file to an usb disk and make it bootable?
[03:17] <nicky> can someone help me
[03:17] <jhambo> josemoreira: clonezilla?
[03:17] <nicky> set up my internet connection sharing
[03:17] <maco> sasayins: i once had a driver that was buggy for networking and it was very useful to be able to unload and reload the module. if it had been built in, i would have had to reboot (and maybe it wouldve made the computer crash instead of just disconnecting from the network)
[03:17] <josemoreira> jhambo, gonna try it
[03:17] <sasayins> maco: i see. so the drivers, directly talk to the kernel? or all modules have the priviledge to talk directly to the kernel
[03:17] <greezmunkey> nicky: are you using Network Manager? On the ubox?
[03:17] <iflema> nicky the rule is pretty much, a couple of exceptions, like devises us crossover cables, unlike devices use straight through cables.... put the ends of the cable side by side.... do the coulours go in the same order?
[03:18] <maco> sasayins: they're kernel modules :)
[03:18] <sasayins> maco: i see. so its loadable and not directly tied to the kernel?
[03:18] <MrDowntempo> whats the best way to do voice chat in ubuntu if both parties have ubuntu?
[03:18] <TomG> jhambo: Check private message
[03:18] <sasayins> maco: i see. so that modules directly built for the kernel is called kernel modules.
[03:18] <maco> sasayins: they're loadable pieces of kernel.  you could compile a kernel such that everything is one big chunk instead of loadable if you wanted to, but that takes away some convenience
[03:19] <tripelb> test
[03:19] <maco> sasayins: one big chunk is also faster to boot though, because each module takes about half-a-second to load at boot
[03:19] <maco> sasayins: so its a trade off
[03:19] <sasayins> maco: i see, like if you want to build a module tied in the kernel, you have to compile all the kernel?
[03:20] <maco> sasayins: nope you can compile individual modules too
[03:20] <josemoreira> jhambo, doesnt seem to be what i have, i have a 7gb osx DVD img which  want to write and boot from an usb disk
[03:20] <sasayins> maco: i see. that is convenient
[03:20] <maco> sasayins: but when you compile a whole kernel, you get to pick what each piece does, whether its kernel or in-built
[03:20] <josemoreira> i used dd but the usb disk wasnt bootable
[03:20] <maco> sasayins: er...whether its module or in-built
[03:21] <nicky> helo
[03:22] <nicky> I am having problems getting my ubuntu machine to connect via ethernet to my windows machine. eth0 refuses to be connected
[03:22] <greezmunkey> nicky: You've had two responses so far...
[03:22] <sasayins> maco: thanks. ok my brain is bleeding right now, to much information. :-) thanks, by the way im reading some device driver book and its pretty much hard to understand hehe
[03:22] <maco> sasayins: is that LDD3?
[03:22] <maco> sasayins: by Greg K-H?
[03:22] <sasayins> maco: yeah, o'reilly :-)
[03:22] <greezmunkey> nicky: check iflema's response first :)
[03:23] <Roasted> Is anybody good at editing themes? I'm trying to edit one and I cant seem to get the colors right. Not sure what Im missing.
[03:23] <maco> sasayins: i have that book :) it's for 2.6.8 though which is rather old... 2004 or 2005 i think
[03:23] <reborn> a
[03:23] <sasayins> maco: oh, but do you think I can use it to learn device driver for the new kernel?
[03:24] <nirvous> hello all - multi-kernel question: how might I go about installing a 2.6.24 (hardy) kernel alongside my current Karmic kernel?
[03:24] <maco> sasayins: probably depends on what subsystem you're looking at, but i doubt *too* much in that space has changed.
[03:25] <mcurran> nirvous - just install it sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, grub will create another entry and preserve the old kernel.
[03:25] <sasayins> maco: yeah, im thinking that too, can you suggest updated books for linux device driver using latest tools?
[03:25] <MrDowntempo> Is there any reliable voice chat for linux now??
[03:25] <tripelb> same problem: more testing I plugged it in. Did not pick up the wired signal. ifconfig changed to carrier 20 (rather than 0) and the modem pc and receive lights were flashing, send black.  -- SUM: not picking up wireless signal - not this computer another one. Please help.. it's been more than days.
[03:25] <mcurran> you might want to just install the linux-image and headers instead, since the upgrade will be another version
[03:26]  * tripelb changes name to BigBoobs to get more help.
[03:26] <IdleOne> !guidelines > tripelb
[03:27] <nirvous> mcurran - thanks. yes - if possible, i'd like to avoid an entire upgrade. do I need to add a different repository?
[03:27] <tripelb> Thank you IdleOne for helping out my sense of humor. Actually someone suggested it a few weeks ago.
[03:27] <DIL_> nicky to connect or network two computers dont you need a crossover cable or firewire
[03:28] <uLinux> hi
[03:28] <maco> sasayins: there's one linux kernel book based on the 2.6.2x line, but i forget the title. crimsun would know, as he owns a copy
[03:28] <uLinux> What application do you recommend to monitor internet connections?
[03:28] <uLinux> like a firewall
[03:28] <IdleOne> tripelb: Whoever suggested you break the rules, was wrong to suggest it. please be patient (I know you have been until now)
[03:29] <crimsun> sasayins: / maco: Essential Linux Device Drivers, Sreekrishnan Venkateswaran
[03:29] <maco> crimsun: thanks :)
[03:29] <crimsun> sasayins: / maco: Prentice Hall, 2008
[03:29] <sasayins> crimsun: wow thats fast, thanks :-)
[03:30] <uLinux> firestarter or gufw
[03:30] <maco> crimsun: are you at home staring at it?
[03:30] <crimsun> maco: yes.
[03:30] <clarkb> uLinux: pf is awesome if you want to try BSD
[03:30] <sasayins> crimsun: i think I need to visit my local bookstore
[03:30] <uLinux> i just want a simple app to monitor connections
[03:33] <iflema> uLinux iftop 4 current traffic, netstat is pretty good and the logs in /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog or the lo viewer
[03:41] <happyface> how do I view if processes are running in 32 or 64-bit mode ?
[03:42] <joshdreamland> Hi again. My USB Startup Disk Creator on Karmic keeps failing to format my 8GB flash drive. I've heard countless reports of older versions failing on drives > 2GB. Is this such an occurrence?
[03:43] <joshdreamland> I can format the drive however I like via GParted, but USB disk creator is either unhappy with the format or returns that the free space is zero.
[03:45] <Morwind> Hey guys. Just deleted the partitions on a drive, and now I'm trying to format it. But I am getting this: Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[03:45] <Morwind> mke2fs 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
[03:45] <Morwind> Any help?
[03:45] <joshdreamland> I'm going to try updating it :P
[03:45] <Polydeuces> Greetings all, i'm having some trouble with my internet... It halts/drops connection all the time, and it makes downloading anything really tough.
[03:46] <Polydeuces> when I used to have windows installed on this laptop it was no problem. I really like ubuntu, but this is getting in the way of my activities. any idea how to fix it?
[03:46] <switch10_> joshdreamland: I've done it on an 8gb flash disk..  are you giving the disk persistent storage space?
[03:47] <joshdreamland> switch10_: Doing so from Jaunty creates the disk, but fails to make it persistent. And yes, I tried giving it the entire drive. It never asks me how much to use on Karmic, because it can't find a partition it considers acceptable.
[03:47] <switch10_> joshdreamland: it is formated as fat32?
[03:48] <uLinux> I'm thinking of backup all the stuff then formatt install XP (for gaming) and then install ubuntu as primary system. what do you guys think?
[03:48] <joshdreamland> switch10_: When I format it as fat32, it is recognized, but it says it requires formatting. Telling it to proceed with the format causes it to drop the partition and remove the drive from the list.
[03:49] <switch10_> uLinux: backing up /home and anything you have edited in /etc should be good.  I would use rsync
[03:49] <tripelb> Idleone of course. It could be manic chaos in here. The traffic is very high. And people get served, in spades! Is wonderful.
[03:50] <switch10_> joshdreamland: that is normal.  it should unmount it to format it, and then continue with the install.
[03:50] <joshdreamland> switch10_: To clarify, any formatting must be done with GParted; having usb-creator do it causes the partition to be dropped and the drive removed from its list
[03:50] <joshdreamland> it refuses to let me continue with install, and removes it from the list so I can not select it any longer...
[03:51] <switch10_> joshdreamland: hmm, that is odd.  I don't know why it would do that..  You could always do it manually...
[03:51] <voss749> uLinux which game?
[03:51] <joshdreamland> switch10_: Do which part manually? USB disk creation or formatting?
[03:51] <uLinux> voss749, i know what u mean.. but it runs better on windows
[03:51] <uLinux> :P
[03:52] <uLinux> cs 1.6
[03:52] <voss749> dont they have a linux client for that?
[03:52] <switch10_> joshdreamland: the USB disk creation.  there is a how to on google somewhere i'll see if I can find it..
[03:52] <joshdreamland> switch10_: also, it has ceased to remove it from the list; now it just formats it in a manner that is not to its liking and leaves the warning sign next to it
[03:52] <joshdreamland> it's from pendrivelinux.com, I bet
[03:52] <joshdreamland> I despise their walkthroughs.
[03:53] <uLinux> i would have to use wine and playonlinux.. etc or pay to play on linux bah
[03:53] <joshdreamland> They are tailored specifically to one architecture and one version, and offer no insight into what changes between either of those.
[03:53] <joshdreamland> For example, all of their scripts assume i386. I'm on AMD 64.
[03:53] <hmw> I cannot delete a folder. There is a .fuse_xxxxx file, deleting this file results in another .fuse file being created. How can I get rid of this .fuse thing? (It is a NTFS partition, i can't currently unmount, because I am uploading a big file from another dir in that partition)
[03:54] <joshdreamland> I've never successfully created a persistent USB with any other tool than usb-creator
[03:55] <iflema> uLinux what you suggested would be the best idea
[03:55] <switch10_> joshdreamland: the tut i saw was not architecture dependant.  basically just copying files..
[03:56] <TNA5000> Does anyone have experience with mounting an external esata drive in ubuntu?
[03:57] <hmw> how can I delete an unwanted .fuse....... file?
[03:57] <mcw> Hey Fuckers
[03:58] <Kepte> join bitlbee
[03:58] <Kepte> mt
[03:58] <switch10_> hmw: are you using fuse to mount your ipod?
[03:58] <hmw> switch10_: i have an NTFS partition mounted via fstab
[03:59] <hmw> i know, it is some not-really-deleted file and it will be really-deleted when I unmount the partition, but I cant do that
[03:59] <hmw> (i dont "want to")
[03:59] <mcw> ahhh heeem
[03:59] <mcw> lol
[04:00] <switch10_> hmw: a usb drive right??
[04:00] <hmw> no
[04:00] <hmw> sda5
[04:00] <hmw> i am short of exploding
[04:00] <hmw> i need those 500 MB now!
[04:01] <switch10_> hmw: Im prety sure you dont need fuse to mount an internal drive.  so remove fuse and then try to delete the file
[04:01] <Kepte> hello here
[04:01] <switch10_> hmw: fuse is used to mount usb drives..
[04:01] <hmw> i never intended to use fuse... that came automatically... how to? kill a process?
[04:02] <switch10_> hmw: you installed it.  You had to have.
[04:02] <hmw> switch10_: this is Ubuntu 9.04 and I most certainly did not enter anything like apt-get isntall fuse
[04:02] <Kepte> i try to launch bitlbee (i type /connect localhost in status) but i have this answer from the server : 22:51 [localhost] !localhost BitlBee-IRCd initialized, please go on
[04:02] <Kepte> 22:51 [localhost] -!- Irssi: Connection lost to localhost
[04:02] <Kepte> 22:51 [localhost] -!- This nick contains invalid characters
[04:03] <switch10_> hmw: it probably came with something you installed.  sudo apt-get purge fuse
[04:03] <hmw> perhaps it was a dependency for ntfs-progs?
[04:03] <Guest24078> i'm in xubuntu 9.10, and want to have a desktop cube. i installed compiz, but the options aren't doing anything. am i doing something wrong?
[04:03] <switch10_> hmw: :) yes you did.  it was a dependency
[04:04] <hmw> switch10_: you said, it is used to mount USB drives. Sounds like a bad idea to remove the software completely. Shouldn't I just kill this gvfs-fuse-daemon?
[04:04] <colombian> Hi guys, this is more of a novelty thing than a question: But my ubunt uhas suddenly converted into a Fedora theme
[04:04] <Guest24078> i'm in xubuntu 9.10, and want to have a desktop cube. i installed compiz, but the options aren't doing anything. am i doing something wrong
[04:04] <colombian> I'm running google-chrome through ssh and it had the blue fedora title bar, but now my whole system has fedora theme
[04:05] <switch10_> joshdreamland: sorry, im still looking...
[04:05] <colombian> Examples: http://i.imgur.com/oS9u8.png and http://i.imgur.com/TyHdX.png
[04:05] <joshdreamland> switch10_: I'm going to give portablelinux a shot
[04:05] <joshdreamland> so far, it is reporting that my flash drive has a bad sector
[04:06] <iflema> Guest24078 install in synaptic the compiz config settings manager and activate the cube....
[04:06] <joshdreamland> which is so incredibly unlikely...
[04:06] <TNA5000> how can I see my esata drive when it is connected to my computer?
[04:06] <switch10_> joshdreamland: FYI portable linux did not work for me, but try it.  Here is that link http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[04:06] <joshdreamland> Thanks much.
[04:06] <Guest24078> iflema: i have that, and did that. it didn't do anything.
[04:07] <iflema> what about asking in #xubuntu
[04:07] <hanasaki> what would cause the system to lock when it goes into screen saver?  after the saver runs for a bit the screen goes black and the keyboard and mouse won't wake it up.  even the numlock light doesn't go on/off
[04:07] <iflema> Guest24078 ^^
[04:08] <Guest24078> there's an #xubuntu? i didn't know that...
[04:09] <speiros> Can someone please tell me the correct page for information on openoffice.org calc please
[04:09] <tripelb> same problem: more testing I plugged it in. Did not pick up the wired signal. ifconfig changed to carrier 20 (rather than 0) and the modem pc and receive lights were flashing, send black.  -- SUM: not picking up wireless signal - not this computer another one.
[04:09] <AdmiralDeath> I am editing a config file in the terminal. Now that I am done how do i close it out and save it?
[04:09] <tripelb> ((It's the same cable as here. I just unplug it and put it in the other computer.))  Hardware report: (win) Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Dhcp Server: 192.168.1.254   Physical Address: 00:0C:F1:E8:CE:04  --- lspci lists: Ethernet controler: Intel Corp 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Contorller (rev 01)  --- ifconfig:  looks a lot like this one but 0 flow since it is not plugged in.
[04:09] <switch10_> AdmiralDeath: which program?  vi, nano, emacs???
[04:10] <AdmiralDeath> nano
[04:10] <tripelb> admiral death you cant edit in terminal only in a program window
[04:10] <switch10_> ctrl+o
[04:10] <joshdreamland> Funny, I thought that was Spanish for a moment
[04:10] <Kepte> do you know how to connect to bitlbee server plz ? (i have this error message : !- This nick contains invalid characters)
[04:10] <AdmiralDeath> thanks
[04:10] <switch10_> AdmiralDeath: then ctrl+x to quit
[04:11] <iflema> tripelb please explain you setup..... is there a swich involved? 3 computers im guessing? is there an ip address for eth0 in ifconfig?
[04:11] <hiexpo> make sure it quits and dont add an x instead
[04:12] <SpaceCowboy40404> I am trying to move a file to my root directory and im having problems, can someone give me a hand please?
[04:12] <hmw> switch10_: i lsof'ed the file, skype had it open, althougn I DEFINETIFELY did not use the file really (I accidentially pasted the path/filename to a skype chat window, but canceled the file transfer thing. Skype still got hold of the file...) I closed Skype and the file was removed
[04:12] <stylet> Всем привет!
[04:12] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: what is the error?
[04:12] <pm2> I'm on Kubuntu 9.10, and just recently Youtube told me to "go upgrade" my flash player.  Is there a solution for this for amd64?
[04:12] <stylet> что?
[04:12] <maco> !ru | stylet
[04:12] <speiros> Can somebody help direct me to the correct page please?
[04:13] <SpaceCowboy40404> switch10: mv: cannot stat `ventsrv/ventrilo_srv': No such file or directory
[04:13] <maco> pm2: i recall hearing thats a bug in konqueror or rekonq. try firefox or arora
[04:13] <tptptptptp> could anyone help me with a gufw question?
[04:13] <pm2> maco, I'm using firefox
[04:13] <maco> SpaceCowboy40404: you're trying to move a non-existent file
[04:13] <maco> pm2: oh. what version of flash do you have installed?
[04:13] <SpaceCowboy40404> no i am siting here looking at the file
[04:14] <HPtwhite> ok so does anyone know of any good twain acquire software that will auto crop the pic when its scanned in?
[04:14] <maco> SpaceCowboy40404: typo?
[04:14] <stylet> I would have you blowing
[04:14] <hmw> switch10_: according to Google, .fuse_hiddenXXXX files are deleted files, that are only pseudo-deleted, because some program still accesses them. They will be kept until the processes close them.
[04:14] <d33d> Why is Ubuntu so awesome?
[04:14] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: it is in your home folder?
[04:14] <hiexpo> sudo mv -f ~/<file>/dir/
[04:14] <SpaceCowboy40404> not that i can see
[04:14] <pm2> maco, Shockwave Flash 10.0 r45
[04:14] <maco> d33d: awesome upstreams and awesome contributors :)
[04:14] <tertitten> I've just installed another distribution (pclinuxos) now I have ubuntu on another partition.... I need to add ubuntu to the grub of pclinux, how do I do that ?
[04:14] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: where is the file??
[04:14] <tptptptptp> I would like to use gufw to block any traffic that does not go through OpenVPN. I tried only allowing traffic between my internal ip address and the external IP address of the server but that didnt work. What can I do?
[04:15] <SpaceCowboy40404> here is the path of it: /home/ubuntu/Ventrilo/ventsrv/ventrilo_srv
[04:15] <d33d> So if I want to contribute to Ubuntu where do I start?
[04:15] <SpaceCowboy40404> and that is the directory i am in, in terminal
[04:15] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: so mv that to the dest
[04:15] <SpaceCowboy40404> thats what i just tried to do and got that error
[04:15] <maco> d33d: http://www.ubuntu.com/community
[04:16] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: show me exactly what you typed
[04:16] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: and do pwd to see what dir you are in..
[04:16] <SpaceCowboy40404> i typed: sudo mv ventsrv/ventrilo_srv /usr/bin/ventrilo_sr
[04:16] <maco> pm2: im not sure then
[04:16] <hiexpo> sudo mv -f ~/<file>/dir/
[04:16] <SpaceCowboy40404> pwd shows: /home/ubuntu/Ventrilo/ventsrv
[04:16] <awc> When I boot up my laptop it hangs at "Adding 3004112k swap on /dev/sda6 Priority:-1 extents:1 across:3004112k
[04:17] <maco> SpaceCowboy40404: then you just need to say "ventrilo_srv"
[04:17] <SpaceCowboy40404> hmm trying
[04:17] <maco> SpaceCowboy40404: you're including "ventrilo/" even though you're already in that dir. youd only do that if you were in ~/Ventrilo
[04:17] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: ls will tell you what is in your current working dir..
[04:18] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: got it??
[04:18] <hmw> switch10_: next time someone has the problem, let them use lsof. Thanks for your time though!
[04:18] <SpaceCowboy40404> worked awesome thx
[04:19] <switch10_> hmw: good to know, thanks..
[04:20] <SpaceCowboy40404> one more question: Im foillowing this install guide and now it says to enter the following command: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/ventrilo_srv /usr/bin/ventrilo_status
[04:20] <SpaceCowboy40404>  what does that do?
[04:20] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: lets you execute the file
[04:21] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: chmod changes permissions.
[04:21] <tertitten> I've just installed another distribution (pclinuxos) now I have ubuntu on another partition.... I need to add ubuntu to the grub of pclinux, how do I do that ?
[04:21] <SpaceCowboy40404> do i need to change to that directory to execute it or will that command do it from where im at now?
[04:22] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: nope the way you wrote it you could be in any dir because it uses the full path to the file.
[04:22] <tptptptptp> is shorewall available in ubuntu somehow?
[04:23] <SpaceCowboy40404> how would i check that /usr/bin directory to make sure those files were moved there?
[04:23] <CrOnOs__> tertitten you need edit your menu.lst and add ubuntu there
[04:23] <SpaceCowboy40404> would it be just ls /usr/bin?
[04:23] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: cd /usr/bin  then  ls
[04:23] <SpaceCowboy40404> ok
[04:23] <wolter> what ftp server is recommended that can follow symlinks?
[04:23] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: you could do that as well
[04:24] <xochipilli> i enabled the proprietary nvidia driver in the "Hardware Drivers" gui, but it is not being used
[04:24] <SpaceCowboy40404> hmmm when i moved the file i made a booboo
[04:24] <xochipilli> at least, GLX is not enabled
[04:24] <tertitten> CrOnOs__: I am aware of that thank you
[04:25] <h00k> xochipilli: have you restarted?
[04:25] <uLinux> does anybody use a internet monitor on ubuntu
[04:25] <tptptptptp> is shorewall available in ubuntu somehow?
[04:25] <xochipilli> nvidia-settings confirms its not loaded
[04:25] <xochipilli> h00k: yes
[04:25] <exigraff> xochipilli: how many times?
[04:25] <SpaceCowboy40404> the file moived was originally named : ventrilo_srv..... when i moved it i typed it out as ventrilo_sr with no "v" on the end an
[04:25] <xochipilli> first i logged in and out, didnt work. so i rebooted
[04:25] <xochipilli> still nothing
[04:26] <SpaceCowboy40404> now it is showing up with no v on the end in the /usr/bin directory?
[04:26] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: mv also renames, so do mv ventrilo_sr ventrilo_srv
[04:26] <SpaceCowboy40404> ahh ok
[04:26] <d33d> oh grats maco on becoming an op.
[04:27] <SpaceCowboy40404> mv ventrilo_sr ventrilo_srv
[04:27] <SpaceCowboy40404> oops wrong window
[04:27] <xochipilli> is there some trick im missing? some way to more manually tinker w/ the X configuration?
[04:27] <AdmiralDeath> umm I am having a problem with the administrative services
[04:28] <AdmiralDeath> Normally it would pop up and ask for my password but now it just pulls up a blank white box and never loads
[04:28] <SpaceCowboy40404> had to add a sudo to the front of the since i got a permission denied error
[04:28] <LuckySMack> hostname -f -> hostname:unknown host. seems my server is confused about its hostname. running 'hostname' returns the proper hostname
[04:28] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: yup that happens when you are noy in /home
[04:28] <AdmiralDeath> any ideas?
[04:28] <h00k> !hostname | LuckySMack
[04:29] <switch10_> not*
[04:29] <LuckySMack> yes i did run 'hostname myhostname' and i still received the error after rebooting
[04:29] <karmic_koala> hi
 No switch - I unplug it from one computer and plug it into the other. Just a modem and one cord.  -- there is no inet address on it. There is on this one, connected.
[04:30] <tripelb> ifl
[04:30] <SecondInfinity> Does anyone in here have an idea about the legality of GPL? I want to use a GPLed program (not LGPL or AGPL, just GPL) program to perform a service for someone and charge for it. I know you can sell GPL software (if people are willing to pay for it)
[04:30] <karmic_koala> i need to fix internet in virtualbox running BT4
[04:30] <AdmiralDeath> has anyone else had problems with the administrative services?
[04:30] <jamescarr> what is the name of the file browser in gnome?
[04:30] <jamescarr> i want to open it in a terminal
[04:30] <tripelb> iflena is gone alas
[04:30] <jamescarr> nautlis
[04:30] <tripelb> ((It's the same cable as here. I just unplug it and put it in the other computer.))  Hardware report: (win) Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Dhcp Server: 192.168.1.254   Physical Address: 00:0C:F1:E8:CE:04  --- lspci lists: Ethernet controler: Intel Corp 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Contorller (rev 01)  --- ifconfig:  looks a lot like this one but 0 flow since it is not plugged in.
[04:30] <jamescarr> is there some way to map windows+e to launch nautlis?
[04:30] <tripelb> same problem: more testing I plugged it in. Did not pick up the wired signal. ifconfig changed to carrier 20 (rather than 0) and the modem pc and receive lights were flashing, send black.  -- SUM: not picking up wireless signal - not this computer another one.
[04:30] <iflema> tripelb on the box that wont go..... with the cable in..... is there an ip address in ifconfig?
[04:31] <tripelb> oh you are here! no ip addy in ifconfig
[04:31] <switch10_> SecondInfinity: you have to release the source code.  you can charge all you want for it...
[04:31] <SpaceCowboy40404> another question: what is this command doing: sudo chown -R ventrilo:ventrilo /etc/ventrilo
[04:31] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: changing ownership
[04:31] <h00k> jamescarr: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[04:31] <iflema> tripelb but is there any entry for eth0 or just lo?
[04:32] <SpaceCowboy40404> whats that mean?
[04:32] <DanDare> Hello. If I install Ubuntu 64bit, 32bit programs will work ?
[04:32] <jbrouhard> SpaceCowboy40404, it's changing the ownership of everything in /etc/ventrilo to the user ventrilo and group ventrilo
[04:32] <DanDare> What about the drivers ?
[04:32] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: it changes the owner and the group of the file
[04:32] <h00k> SpaceCowboy40404: that recursively changes ownership to user 'ventrilo' in everything in the /etc/ventrilo folder
[04:32] <SecondInfinity> switch10: So if I have a GPL program that I have downloaded I can use it to provide a service (data backup for instance) and charge for that, but I have to offer them the source (like always)?
[04:32] <SpaceCowboy40404> ok cool thats what im wanting to do :)
[04:32] <AdmiralDeath> What can I do to fix my administrative services?
[04:33] <switch10_> SecondInfinity: thats my understanding..
[04:33] <h00k> SpaceCowboy40404: you can check the manpage of chown for more information
[04:33] <karmic_koala> how hould i configure the adaptors in net in virtualbox for have internet?
[04:34] <LuckySMack> my /etc/hostname file contains 'blah' and that is what is returned when running 'hostname' . this is what i have for my hosts/hostname files: http://pastebin.com/Shc51QZc
[04:34] <SpaceCowboy40404> this last part of the guide it gets kind of vague... can i link the guide and someone tell me what its doing and if the steps are right?
[04:34] <Morwind> Hey guys. Just deleted the partitions on a drive, and now I'm trying to format it. But I am getting this: Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: mke2fs 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
[04:34] <SecondInfinity> switch10: basically I want to use the ntfsprogs program ntfsclone to do windows image backups for people and either store them on their hard drives or on mine and then charge them a fee for it
[04:35] <Morwind> Any help?
[04:35] <AdmiralDeath> So noone knows? is there another channel I can get help in?
[04:35] <switch10_> SecondInfinity: I do that for a job.  Its totally legal.
[04:36] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Can you use sudo successfully?
[04:36] <switch10_> SecondInfinity: no one will want the source code either :)
[04:36] <AdmiralDeath> yes I can
[04:36] <SecondInfinity> switch10_: Its different that paid for programs because you have to buy a special license, but GPL stuff really lowers the entry barrier for that type of business/service
[04:36] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: So, it's just 'administrative services' that's giving you issues?
[04:36] <SecondInfinity> switch10_: you can pay like $100+ for the business license for some software.
[04:36] <AdmiralDeath> but when I go to open the update manager and ask it to check it just pulls up a blank white box
[04:36] <AdmiralDeath> yes
[04:36] <SpaceCowboy40404> this last part of the guide it gets kind of vague... can i link the guide and someone tell me what its doing and if the steps are right?
[04:37] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Alright, do you get errors if you run `sudo apt-get update` (close update manager, and any other package managers)
[04:37] <AdmiralDeath> ok give me a sec and I will try that
[04:38] <uLinux> is there a dc++ chat
[04:38] <switch10_> SecondInfinity: thats why I dont use that junk.
[04:38] <vladikoff> hey guys, need a little help with aptitude , i somehow selected all my packages and put it into 'apt-get autoremove' can someone help me deselect that
[04:38] <AdmiralDeath> ok it seems I can no longer open a terminal either
[04:39] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Which configuration files were you editing earlier?
[04:39] <AdmiralDeath> Nvidia driver
[04:39] <bluebaron> I have a laptop with a GeForce 9600M.  The monitor won't wake up after sleep.  Any help?
[04:39] <IdleOne> vladikoff: so now apt-get is waiting for you to either type y or n?
[04:39] <tripelb>  iflema there is an entry for etho0 eth1 and lo
[04:39] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Alright, that probably wasn't the cause of this.  Try ctrl-alt-f1 (use ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to your GUI) to get to a tty, and try it there.
[04:40] <vladikoff> IdleOne, it gave me a list of like 50+ packages and says, 'use apt-get autoremove' to remove them'
[04:40] <vladikoff> IdleOne, i was trying to access the menu in aptitude and i think pressed some weird buttons
[04:40] <IdleOne> vladikoff: ok, don't use that command
[04:40] <vladikoff> IdleOne, yeah i figured, it's scary
[04:41] <AdmiralDeath> It wont let me log in
[04:41] <AdmiralDeath> tells me incorrect login
[04:41] <IdleOne> vladikoff: iirc autoremove just deletes the .deb files but doesn't uninstall the packages
[04:41] <tripelb> admiral death. do you know how to change your password?
[04:41] <iflema> tripelb and onboard and pci network cards eth0 and eth1.... do not work but are listed without in ifconfig without ip addresses? yes?
[04:41] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Did you change any other config files recently?  sudoers? hostname stuff?
[04:41] <vladikoff> IdleOne, ah does the system need the deb files?
[04:41] <IdleOne> vladikoff: only to install
[04:42] <AdmiralDeath> No i dont know how to change my pass
[04:42] <bluebaron> I have a laptop with a GeForce 9600M.  The monitor won't wake up after sleep.  Any help?
[04:42] <tripelb> iflema, copying the line
[04:42] <vladikoff> IdleOne, ok i shall DO IT then
[04:42] <AdmiralDeath> and no I have not edited any other configs
[04:42] <jmcantrell> can anyone recommend a good notebook that's 100% compatible with ubuntu out of the box?
[04:43] <vladikoff> IdleOne, oh shit
[04:43] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Alright, well, I'd try rebooting, you might have a memory leak or something, and these symptoms sort of would make sense with that.  Do you have a LiveCD handy just incase you need to boot to that?
[04:43] <h00k> !language | vladikoff
[04:43] <IdleOne> vladikoff: what?
[04:43] <IdleOne> vladikoff: also please watch the language?
[04:43] <vladikoff> IdleOne, doomed
[04:43] <bluebaron> jmcantrell, the one you buy
[04:43] <h00k> jmcantrell: my EEE 1000 that I'm on is ;)
[04:43] <AdmiralDeath> yes I do have a CD handy. and I have tried rebooting
[04:43] <geekphreak> hi all
[04:43] <AdmiralDeath> should I try again?
[04:43] <IdleOne> vladikoff: doomed can mean so many things
[04:43] <geekphreak> IdleOne: howdy :)
[04:44] <jmcantrell> h00k: yep. that's what i have now. love it, but looking for something with more power
[04:44]  * uLinux new Lost episode "is out"
[04:44] <IdleOne> heya geekphreak
[04:44] <vladikoff> IdleOne, it's deleting everything now
[04:44] <vladikoff> ah well
[04:44] <vladikoff> thanks anyway
[04:44] <IdleOne> vladikoff: everything like what?>
[04:44] <hanasaki1> what would make my monitor go black after 10mins?
[04:44] <vladikoff> all my packages
[04:44] <vladikoff> not deb files
[04:44] <vladikoff> bye now
[04:44] <IdleOne> lies
[04:44] <h00k> hanasaki1: power save settings?
[04:44] <jmcantrell> i'm looking for a notebook that doesn't have all the bells and whistles. just power and solidly built
[04:44] <hanasaki> h00k: I turned those off in the gnome powermanager
[04:45] <uLinux> hanasaki, screensaver
[04:45] <uLinux> -.-
[04:45] <AdmiralDeath> I will try rebooting again
[04:45] <micael> hello i have just installed ubuntu but it cant find my screen it say unknown
[04:45] <bluebaron> jmcantrell, some features of any laptop might not be supported.  the only problems are sometimes graphics ... ethernet/wifi used to be a problem but it's much better now
[04:45] <h00k> hanasaki: your monitor might also have settings that make it do that
[04:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> ok easier question hopefully: I need to copy a text file whose path is: /home/ubuntu/ventrilo.txt to another directory located at: /etc/init.d what would i type?
[04:45] <tripelb> etho link encasp: ethernet HWaddr 00:c0:f0:58:18:68  /  inet5 addr: fe80::2c0:f0ff:fe58:1868:/64 Scope:Link   while on this computer I get  a real intet address looking number then Bcast:(another number then Mask another number  /nextline inet addr: and a similar thing. It's entirely missing.
[04:46] <tripelb> iflema, ^^^
[04:46] <micael> so now i have to run in 600x800
[04:46] <hanasaki> uLinux: h00k  the screen saver is set to set to 2 mins   / when the screen goes to screensaver its fine.. in 10mins it goes black and they system will not respond to keyboard or mouse.. even the numlock key won't turn its light on/off
[04:46] <SpaceCowboy40404> i am in the home/ubuntu directory
[04:46] <jmcantrell> bluebaron: that's what i'm asking. which laptop(s) work well with no tweaking?
[04:46] <iflema> tripelb pastebin.com and post link back
[04:46] <tripelb> iflema, I seem to have misplaced my flash drive
[04:46] <micael> anyone knows how to change screen
[04:46] <iflema> huh....
[04:46] <tripelb> I cant copy it except by hand.
[04:46] <bluebaron> jmcantrell, I'm saying, buy the one you want.  It will probably work.
[04:47] <SpaceCowboy40404> so would it be: sudo cp ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d
[04:47] <iflema> tripelb ok
[04:47] <hanasaki> h00k:  uLinux so it's a lockup after it goes black
[04:48] <tripelb> iflema, I can compare it to this one and tell you the differences. rx packets 1027 errores o dropped 0 the rest.... tx packets; 0 errors: 10 dropped, 0 overurns 0 frame
[04:48] <joshdreamland> All right, nothing's working
[04:48] <joshdreamland> I'm taking this into my own hands
[04:48] <h00k> hanasaki: it's not going into suspend or hibernate?
[04:48] <hanasaki> h00k:  don't think so... the fan is still running and it just "blinks" out to black.  power is still on
[04:49] <hanasaki> no major drive activity when it goes black
[04:49] <hanasaki> back in 10 mins.. wanna test something... h00k will you watch to see when it says my ID goes off line.. if it does....
[04:51] <iflema> tripelb if there is a listing for eth0... A (1) network card atleast is ready to go... now does this modem do dhcp?
[04:51] <SpaceCowboy40404> sudo cp ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d .........ha that worked im learning this stuff
[04:51] <AdmiralDeath> ok I tried restarting and it still wont let me log into the command line interface
[04:51] <SpaceCowboy40404> woot woot
[04:51] <tripelb> iflema, I dont know dhcp, what it means. This is a cable modem from Time-Warner.
[04:52] <micael> i have a acer sceern but ubuntu cant find it how can i tell ubuntu what screen i have
[04:52] <SpaceCowboy40404> now a hard question: How do I make a *.txt file an executable and add it to the boot sequence?
[04:53] <iflema> tripelb ok
[04:53] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: which cli you cannot get into ?
[04:53] <costre> SpaceCowboy40404, what's in this .txt?
[04:54] <AdmiralDeath> I was told to press ctrl+alt+F1
[04:54] <AdmiralDeath> and to log in
[04:54] <SpaceCowboy40404> costre: here is a link to it: http://rocketeerbkw.com/sites/default/files/ventrilo.txt
[04:54] <AdmiralDeath> it says my login is incorrecty
[04:54] <AdmiralDeath> incorrect*
[04:54] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: and you just get a blinkinh cursor?
[04:54] <AdmiralDeath> no
[04:54] <geekphreak> oh ok
[04:54] <SpaceCowboy40404> costre: i am mucking my way through this install guide :)O
[04:55] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: sure login name and passwd is ok , it is case senstive :)
[04:55] <iflema> tripelb have you setup a similar configuration like this for another ubuntu machine? what version of ubuntu?
[04:55] <AdmiralDeath> someone said it might be a memory leak
[04:55] <costre> SpaceCowboy40404, You could try to chmod +x the txt-file, and add the entire location of the txtfile to /etc/rc.local
[04:56] <costre> that should execute it at startup
[04:56] <SpaceCowboy40404> costre: does this acomplish that: sudo update-rc.d ventrilo default
[04:56] <costre> if it's executable :)
[04:56] <SpaceCowboy40404> costre: as far as i know its just a .txt file?
[04:56] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: dont think memory leak would give login ncorrect though afaik
[04:56] <costre> SpaceCowboy40404, Not sure, it kinda sounds like it
[04:57] <costre> SpaceCowboy40404, Yes, but it contains batch-like commands
[04:57] <AdmiralDeath> well I am having other problems as well
[04:57] <AdmiralDeath> I cannot update and cant open terminal
[04:58] <tripelb> iflema, I've done it many times. With ubuntu you just plug in and go. 6.04 ++ 9.04, 9.10 I have never had an issue, dsl or cable.
[04:58] <tripelb> same with win and ethernet
[04:58] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: same error message?
[04:58] <AdmiralDeath> no error message
[04:58] <Sevion> Hey, guys. I've been having a problem. I have Windows 7 installed on my main drive and a second drive has Ubuntu. Once I install Ubuntu, I have to restart. So I do so. Once I do, I can't boot anymore. I get a Grub Loading. and it just stops there. Sometimes it goes to Grub Rescue. I can get back onto Windows by repairing boot through the install disc. I've tried a few things with reinstalling GRUB2, but no dice.
[04:58] <AdmiralDeath> jsut blank white boxes
[04:58] <AdmiralDeath> just*
[04:58] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: are you logged into X?
[04:59] <AdmiralDeath> what is X?
[04:59] <AdmiralDeath> Sorry I am very new to this
[04:59] <geekphreak> do you desktop up ?
[04:59] <tomato> is there a simple way to restrict a user to his/her home directory only?
[04:59] <AdmiralDeath> yes my desktop is up
[04:59] <h00k> tomato: by default, they are
[04:59] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: press alt+f2, type gnome-terminal
[04:59] <AdmiralDeath> ok stand by
[04:59] <tomato> h00k: thanks! i'll try it
[04:59] <Sevion> Hey, guys. I've been having a problem. I have Windows 7 installed on my main drive and a second drive has Ubuntu. Once I install Ubuntu, I have to restart. So I do so. Once I do, I can't boot anymore. I get a Grub Loading. and it just stops there. Sometimes it goes to Grub Rescue. I can get back onto Windows by repairing boot through the install disc. I've tried a few things with reinstalling GRUB2, but no dice.
[05:00] <geekphreak> h00k: hello sir
[05:00] <h00k> geekphreak: hello there
[05:00] <navetz> is there a iTunes like media player for linux?
[05:01] <AdmiralDeath> ok I tried that and it is still just a blank white box
[05:01] <two> yo waddup
[05:01] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: nothing comes up ?
[05:01] <AdmiralDeath> just a blank white box where the terminal should be
[05:01] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: this whitebox, can you type command, is it like a terminal?
[05:02] <AdmiralDeath> no
[05:02] <geekphreak> k
[05:02] <lgc> Hi, what is "0>&1"?
[05:02] <AdmiralDeath> just a blank white qquare
[05:02] <AdmiralDeath> square*
[05:02] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: when you logged in what session did you choose ?
[05:02] <pourya> admiralDeath its possible that it cant find the icon
[05:02] <duleep> sevion: can u load grub
[05:02] <AdmiralDeath> what do you mean session?
[05:03] <Sevion> duleep: No. Grub hasn't been loading at all.
[05:03] <AdmiralDeath> It autolog's in
[05:03] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: when you start pc and enter login name /password, just below it ask you which session you wana choose , gnome , failsafe/kde
[05:03] <SpaceCowboy40404> arg... im stuck on this last step... the sudo update-rc.d ventrilo defaults
[05:03] <SpaceCowboy40404>  is giving me an error of: /etc/init.d/ventrilo: file does not exist
[05:03] <SpaceCowboy40404>  even though i am sitting here looking at it?
[05:03] <Sevion> duleep: It'll say Grub Loading. and stop. Nothing else happens past that point except for the occasional Grub Rescue.
[05:03] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: i think you took of X, the gui :)
[05:03] <AdmiralDeath> I have it set to login automatically
[05:03] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: did you uninstall any applications
[05:03] <AdmiralDeath> No
[05:04] <pourya> AdmiralDeath did you change your theme?
[05:04] <AdmiralDeath> no
[05:04] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: whats your login name?
[05:04] <hiexpo> what command is it to see what programs i have installed and also to print it
[05:04] <AdmiralDeath> inman
[05:05] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: and you are using that in ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[05:05] <AdmiralDeath> yes
[05:06] <SpaceCowboy40404> update-rc.d [-n] <basename> defaults [NN | SS KK]
[05:06] <SpaceCowboy40404> ....what are the NN and SSKK for?
[05:06] <genii> hiexpo: dpkg --get-selections > mypackages && gedit mypackages              from there just print it like any normal document
[05:06] <Sevion> duleep: Are you there?
[05:06] <duleep> yap
[05:06] <iflema> tripelb you have atleast one nic working so...... router changed config??? or cable stuffed???? or what did change by the way.... just oneday poof.... gone....?
[05:06] <crimsun> SpaceCowboy40404: explained in the man page for update-rc.d
[05:06] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: does anything open , when you press alt+f1
[05:06] <Sevion> duleep: Do you know how to fix this?
[05:06] <duleep> what os u first install?
[05:07] <Sevion> duleep: Windows 7
[05:07] <AdmiralDeath> yes it pulls up the command line interface
[05:07] <Sevion> duleep: I have it setup like this: HDD1 -> Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, HDD2 -> Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit
[05:07] <duleep> are u renstall grub using live cd?
[05:07] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: well bring cli up , so we can type some commands
[05:08] <AdmiralDeath> I cannot type any commands
[05:08] <Sevion> duleep: I have tried reinstalling GRUB many different ways, none of them have worked.
[05:08] <AdmiralDeath> it wants me to log in first
[05:08] <lgc> How can I change my root password system-wide?
[05:08] <AdmiralDeath> tells me my login is wrong
[05:08] <Sereph> how do i restart the sound daemon?
[05:08] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: not ctrl+alt+f1 , just alt+f1
[05:08] <AdmiralDeath> ah
[05:08] <AdmiralDeath> pulls up applications
[05:09] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: goto accesories, then open terminal, use arrow keys
[05:09] <hiexpo> thanks genii // but that does not show what i have compiled myself what will show that i forgot :(
[05:09] <uLinux> which internet monitor do you recommend for ubuntu?
[05:09] <Sereph> lgc: the root password is system wide there is only one
[05:09] <AdmiralDeath> ij standby
[05:09] <AdmiralDeath> ok*
[05:09] <duleep> waht did u mean setup?
[05:09] <AdmiralDeath> still just a blank white box
[05:10] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: even when you try to open terminal ?
[05:10] <genii> hiexpo: If you compiled them into deb packages it will show them.
[05:10] <Sevion> duleep: duleep: My first hard drive has Windows 7 Pro 64 bit installed on it and my second hard drive has Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit installed on it.
[05:10] <duleep> ok i got that
[05:11] <AdmiralDeath> yes even when I try and open terminal
[05:11] <genii> hiexpo: There is no real way to get a comprehensive list of stuff you have installed by compiling with something like make install where it puts them directly into the filesystem
[05:11] <kasun> !next
[05:11] <AdmiralDeath> should I just reinstall ubuntu?
[05:11] <Sereph> lgc: sudo passwd
[05:11] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: what happens when you press alt+f2?
[05:11] <AdmiralDeath> standby
[05:11] <hiexpo> genii,  - but like if i installed sh packages they don't and i know one i have installed that was a tar is not showing and its there and runs
[05:11] <Sereph> AdmiralDeath: whats the problem?
[05:12] <SpaceCowboy40404> ok i understand what the update-rc.d is doing now and my problem is with the text file inside the folder what i am trying to make an executable.. this is beyond my ability
[05:12] <hiexpo> genii, oh ok
[05:12] <AdmiralDeath> my administrative services and terminal are all out of whack
[05:12] <Sevion> duleep: Something new: When I boot up and hit F12 for boot options, I can select Hard Drive and then from there I can select the Hard Drive my Ubuntu is installed on. It will get to Grub Loading., error: no such partition, grub rescue>
[05:13] <AdmiralDeath> geekphreak it opens a run application prompt
[05:13] <genii> hiexpo: One of the points of having a packaging system is to be able to track what's installed. when you do make install or such it bypasses the package manager's ability to track it.
[05:13] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: good 1 sec
[05:13] <AdmiralDeath> ok
[05:13] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath:  can you tye this there?
[05:14] <AdmiralDeath> type what?
[05:14] <hiexpo> genii,  - true but many apps are not available in the repos so onemost install other ways ya know
[05:14] <SpaceCowboy40404> holy cheese and rice i have spent two days unsuccessfully trying to do what took me 5 minutes to do with windows... i wan tot stab myself in the eye with a rusty spork
[05:14] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: gksudo  gedit /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[05:14] <genii> hiexpo: If you look in the file ~/.bash_history it will have a record of commands you have recently typed in. You may find at least some of them there if you find something like: cd prog-name   then: make and: make install      etc
[05:14] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: what are you trying to do?
[05:14] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: commit suicide :)
[05:15] <genii> hiexpo: Otherwise it is up to you to keep good records of what you manually install
[05:15] <Sereph> and on a serious note?
[05:15] <geekphreak> h00k: yo there mate?
[05:15] <h00k> geekphreak: yes
[05:15] <SpaceCowboy40404> seraph: can i just link u the guide and show you were i got to when things started going wrong?
[05:15] <hiexpo> genii, ya i know i was just tring an easy way out because i am recopiling a new cd
[05:15] <Sereph> sure
[05:15] <geekphreak> h00k: what was the shortcut for gui to add user?
[05:15] <AdmiralDeath> ok standby I will try
[05:15] <Sereph> pm it to me if you'd like
[05:15] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: ok
[05:16] <SpaceCowboy40404> Sereph: http://rocketeerbkw.com/content/installing-ventrilo-server-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala  .... i got to "Make vent start when computer boots"
[05:16] <duleep> if u don't have any document in ubuntu, can u try to reinstall ubhuntu your same drive
[05:16] <phenom> !flash
[05:16] <geekphreak> h00k: the one which is under system >>administration>>user and groups, any shortcut for it?
[05:16] <h00k> geekphreak: users-admin
[05:16] <geekphreak> h00k:  thanks
[05:17] <AdmiralDeath> it attempts to pull up the administrative services box and it is also a blank white box
[05:17] <h00k> geekphreak: no prob
[05:17] <phenom> Any one have info on a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/346289 ?
[05:17] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: ok last try
[05:17] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath:  press alt+f2 again
[05:17] <xiven> Hi
[05:17] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: be right back... for some reason my terminal is freakingout
[05:17] <phenom> Adobe flash is choppy in fullscreen, like in say youtube clips
[05:17] <AdmiralDeath> ok
[05:17] <tripelb> iflema, I have two different computers. This one, it works. The other one, it doesnt. -- I have no router. I just unplugged the ethenet from this computer and plugged it into the other one. -- no switches. Nothing.
[05:17] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath:  type gksudo users-admin
[05:18] <Sevion>  duleep: I have reinstalled Ubuntu multiple times, actually :-/
[05:18] <xiven> I've read that Scribus has a lot of problems on Ubuntu due to canonical patches. I found a how-to for fixing some..but it gives an instruction for the "Library Path" tab in QtConfig...I cannot find that tab.
[05:18] <lgc> Sereph, will that change the keyring password and my user password (which is the same by default)?
[05:18] <hiexpo> next question is when i open fspot it loads and than just closes
[05:18] <AdmiralDeath> ok geek I will try that
[05:19] <phenom> !gnash
[05:19] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: we are trying to add a user
[05:19] <lgc> xiven, I was told that years ago and had to stick with the Windoze version.
[05:19] <xiven> Gnash doesn't work very well unfortunately.
[05:19] <phenom> Any one have issues using gnash?
[05:19] <phenom> grr
[05:19] <duleep> sorry brother i'm not enough to solve your problem try with other
[05:19] <AdmiralDeath> ok again it trys to open the administrative services window and it is a blank white box
[05:19] <xiven> phenom> I experience a lot with Gnash it not loading videos
[05:19] <Out_Cold> what's the name of the character map installed in ubuntu?
[05:20] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: not good
[05:20] <xiven> I would recommend downloading the official Adobe Flash Player for Linux
[05:20] <AdmiralDeath> yeah thats what I thought
[05:20] <AdmiralDeath> I am going to reinstall
[05:20] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: did you change theme or do something man?
[05:20] <duleep> if u have any screenshot plz send
[05:20] <phenom> unfortunately watching youtube flicks and the like in full screen are too choppy to watch,, I remember this bug on another computer dating back to ibex iirc
[05:20] <xiven> It's not open source, but honestly...it works the best from the choices from my experiences
[05:20] <Sevion> Hey, guys. I've been having a problem. I have Windows 7 installed on my main drive and a second drive has Ubuntu. Once I install Ubuntu, I have to restart. So I do so. Once I do, I can't boot anymore. I get a Grub Loading. and it just stops there. Sometimes it goes to Grub Rescue. I can get back onto Windows by repairing boot through the install disc. I've tried a few things with reinstalling GRUB2, but no dice.
[05:20] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath:  ok , beofre you do that use live cd to backup your data on $HOME, if its not encrypted
[05:21] <phenom> xiven, Yea, I have the 64 bit version installed
[05:21] <tripelb> iferna I am trying to get ONE computer together that works. This one keeps freezing. No progress on that. (sometimes it seems flash and sometimes hardware) So I was given this other computer, tried it, installed Ubuntu, and does not see the internet signal. I say, OK I'll put in a second (PCI) ethernet card. (that's why there was eth0 and eth1)Still nothing.  [I am so basic, so unsophistocated, but I am trying to be clear.]  -- if I had $$ I would not be playing
[05:21] <tripelb>  with old computers. I bought this one used and it's been frying piece by piece.
[05:21] <AdmiralDeath> I have nothing on the HD anyway so it does not matter
[05:21] <phenom> And works fine other than the choppy issue
[05:21] <AdmiralDeath> I just installed it today
[05:21] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: well then bombs away
[05:21] <h00k> Sevion: it sounds like windows ate your bootloader, you tried the 'recoverr grub after installing windows instructions' ?
[05:21] <AdmiralDeath> indeed
[05:21] <h00k> !who
[05:21] <xiven> phenom> Well if you have the official Flash player for linux, then you should be set
[05:21] <xiven> Unless you're looking for something open source
[05:21] <tomato> i created a new account, but the user can still access and look at folders beyond their home folder
[05:21] <phenom> xiven, No,, just looking for something that works heh
[05:21] <xiven> For open source I would look into swfcodec, or something like that
[05:21] <Sevion> h00k: I actually installed Windows before Ubuntu.
[05:21] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: ok im back
[05:22] <SpaceCowboy40404> Seraph: ok
[05:22] <tomato> is there something simple i can do to prevent the user from browsing beyond their home folder?
[05:22] <duleep> sevion: how do u send msg every time like this " duleep: "
[05:22] <Sevion> h00k: Though, when I repaired boot, it may have done that.
[05:22] <h00k> Sevion: are tou using any third party antivirus or backup solutions? those have a tendency to kill grub.
[05:22] <gogeta> tripelb: well wifi cards all need diffrent guieds
[05:22] <xiven> swfcodec, gnash,  and Adobe's Flash Player for Linux are the only choices I know of.
[05:22] <Sevion> duleep: Just type it out. Like: Sevion: <TEXT>
[05:22] <Sevion> h00k: I do have AVG Free
[05:22] <tripelb> phenom: my understanding is that the official adobe flash works best. I went to all kinds of trouble to remove the other and install that.
[05:22] <xiven> What options can anyone tell me about for a PDF Editor/PDF Creator for linux?
[05:22] <h00k> Sevion: any backup managers?
[05:22] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: im going to neet the link again though
[05:23] <Sevion> h00k: None.
[05:23] <h00k> xiven: Openoffice can save to PDF
[05:23] <g0r3_0f_g0d> hi ppl
[05:23] <tripelb> gogeta, I am not talking about a wifi card. I am only plugging into a WIRED connection.
[05:23] <SpaceCowboy40404> Sereph: http://rocketeerbkw.com/content/installing-ventrilo-server-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala  .... i got to "Make vent start when computer boots"
[05:23] <xiven> Last time I used OpenOffice to create a PDF or open a PDF, when I viewed result with a viewer, it was all messed up
[05:23] <h00k> Sevion: usually that causes problems, things overwrite the MBR without looking
[05:23] <h00k> xiven: openoffice isn't for opening PDF's but it will create them
[05:23] <gogeta> tripelb: that should work pretty easly unless your not using auto ip
[05:23] <xiven> Plus, I don't want to have to next tables in OO.O in order to mix pictures into text and stuf
[05:23] <g0r3_0f_g0d> has anyone got an opinion , what is better virtual box or vmware wkstation under ubuntu
[05:24] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: what seems to be the problem?
[05:24] <Sevion> h00k: Well, I have gone into my Windows install disc and used bootrec.exe /fixboot and bootrec.exe /fixmbr, would that do anything? I have tried reinstalling GRUB2 after doing these actions.
[05:24] <gogeta> g0r3_0f_g0d: well vbox is free
[05:24] <xiven> My use is desktop publishing, newspaper as PDF (or any other worthy file format [released version should not be editable])
[05:24] <tripelb> gogeta, it always works automatically, in windows or ubuntu, but on this particular computer it does not. A standard Ubuntu 9.04 liveCD
[05:24] <phenom> tripelb, Ill keep hacking at it. But this is very unfortunate, this bug has been around for a long time, but this is an upstream issue I'm sure.
[05:24] <SpaceCowboy40404> Sereph: i dont know what the hell im doing starting with that step or im following the commands incorrectly as they are not working
[05:24] <hanasaki> h00k: looks like its something to do with the 3D screen savers.. the 2D don't lockup
[05:25] <xiven> gore> VBox is better if you like open source, VMware is commercial and expensive but does work a little better IMHO
[05:25] <g0r3_0f_g0d> yeah doesn't that mean in theory that vmware should be better if they dare charging for it , i mean like more stable n stuff
[05:25] <h00k> Sevion: those will kill your grub, you then should be able to reinstall grub using instructions online to your mbr, boot into Ubuntu, do a sudo update-grub, and you should be set
[05:25] <hanasaki> xiven:  any news on what oracle plans to do w/ vbox?
[05:25] <gogeta> tripelb: wrong cable types if its a old machine its picky
[05:25] <h00k> ubottu: grub2 | Sevion
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[05:25] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: you did the other steps correctly?
[05:25] <xiven> There may be, I haven't kept up on the news of it
[05:25] <Sevion> h00k: Okay, I will try. Stand by for results.
[05:25] <SpaceCowboy40404> Sereph: as far as i know I did, all the commands went through with no errors
[05:26] <h00k> Sevion: hilight me, I'll probably be away
[05:26] <Guest18416> I hate linux and am thinking about switching back to windows because there is no way to mount drives automatically at startup.
[05:26] <phenom> Every thing that could have gone wrong installing ubuntu/linux,, went wrong heh
[05:26] <tripelb> phenom, you can look at ubuntuforums.org for a post by old_grey_wolf  (or gray??) - I have had success pasting what he said.
[05:26] <xiven> Unless its covered by IT Business Edge, or TechRepublic, Codeplex, or one of those..I won't see it
[05:26] <Sevion> h00k: Hilight? How?
[05:26] <Sereph> Guest18416: /etc/fstab
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest18416: sure there is, how do you think your / partition mounts at boot!?
[05:26] <h00k> Sevion: exactly how you just did :) just my name
[05:26] <gogeta> tripelb: if your trying to ue your cat5 crossover vs a standerd eathernet stragt cable on a machine without autosence it will not work
[05:26] <Sevion> h00k: Alright!
[05:26] <h00k> Sevion: Good luck
[05:26] <hiexpo> when i try to open fspot it loads than closes
[05:26] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: so you got an error with the first part of that?
[05:26] <Sevion> h00k: Trying now, afk. Thanks.
[05:27] <cbilljones> hey im having an issue: zotac mobo using ion chipset, connected to TV via HDMI, screen is occasionally going black, video/audio are working, any suggestions?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: run it from a terminal, the output may be useful
[05:27] <xiven> VBox is the one I like (and not just because its free), although I hate the fact that it won't allow me to go to the resolution my screen can support (because its external, the built-in LCD requires a slightly different res)
[05:27] <tripelb> gogeta: again I am taking the standard ethernet cable out of one computer and putting it in another. Nothing strange. Even old computers are standardized on ethernet 10/100
[05:27] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, ok let me see was just gonna do that :)
[05:27] <gogeta> tripelb: without autosence they do not accept cat5
[05:27] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: it says to do cp /path/to/ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d/ventrilo
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: what is the output of: lsb_release -c    ?
[05:27] <SpaceCowboy40404> Sereph: my problemn starts at: sudo update-rc.d ventrilo defaults
[05:28] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: did you do that cp command?
[05:28] <SpaceCowboy40404> yes
[05:28] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: yes
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> tripleb: it will need to be a crossover cable for p2p, patch cables wont work in that situation
[05:28] <tripelb> gogeta, this is not helping. This is a standard cable. I am only changing the computer it is plugged into. It works. It doesnt.  THE SAME CABLE.
[05:28] <cbilljones> actionparsnip karmic
[05:28] <tomato> is there a simple way to restrict a user to his/her home directory only? as in, they cannot cd to / ?
[05:28] <gogeta> tripelb: and yout not listing
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: ok cool
[05:28] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: are you getting an error?
[05:29] <tripelb> gogeta, every computer I have ever used is like that. Yes and you are not even spelling.
[05:29] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: and i can see the txt file in the /etc/init.d/ventrilo directory as well
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: have you added the nvidia vpau ppa and installed the 195 driver?
[05:29] <xiven> Is there any way to get OpenOffice to support the placing of texts and images the same way which Scribus would?
[05:29] <Sereph> there is your problem then
[05:29] <tripelb> gogeta, I am listening. It is not a crossover.
[05:29] <gogeta> tripelb: ok type lspci and see if ubuntu is seeing the nics
[05:29] <Sereph> /etc/init.d/ventrilo is not a directory
[05:29] <tripelb> tomato I'd like to know.
[05:29] <iflema> tripelb well get one....
[05:29] <cbilljones> actioparsnip: i tried, but im using 185 atm
[05:29]  * xiven suddenly wonders if it would do any good to run the Windows version of Scribus under wine
[05:29] <Sereph> it should be a file with the contents of ventrilo.txt
[05:29] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: yes when i enter in: sudo update-rc.d ventrilo defaults
[05:29] <SpaceCowboy40404>  i get the following error: /etc/init.d/ventrilo: file does not exist
[05:30] <tripelb> I did. gogeta.  Yes it sees the card.
[05:30] <tomato> tripelb: so far i've been reading about jails and bash replacements
[05:30] <tripelb> iferna, I should get what?
[05:30] <micael> anyone know why i can only have a resolution 800x600
[05:30] <gogeta> tripelb: then check your roguhter settings it may be rejeccting the connection
[05:30] <xiven> Is Scribus' main problem is being a Qt application, instead of being integrated into KDE?
[05:30] <iflema> tripelb if where talking old hardware a crossover inbtween ya cable modem may be required
[05:30] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: im going to reinstall the 195 driver
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> micael: you havent configured your video driver correctly
[05:31]  * iflema exeption to the rule....
[05:31] <tripelb> tomato, I was shocked when I saw my user could access files.  I would like to have a really limited user. I dont even want him to see all the programs installed. (ditto my windows users) I want life to be simple for them.
[05:31] <tripelb> gogeta, I dont have a router.
[05:31] <gogeta> tripelb: LOL
[05:31] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: thats because the file doesnt exist you made it a directory
[05:31] <tomato> triplelb: here is the best guide i've found so far, though i don't really understand it. it looks the simplest out of them all, http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/how-to-restrict-access-with-rbash/
[05:31] <micael> ActionParsnip i am very new so i dont really know how to do it i have been looking for a program to do it
[05:32] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: you lost me there.. what do i need to do to make it a file and not a directory?
[05:32] <gogeta> tripelb: this will sound stupid but if your connected directly with a cable modem. unplug the modem wait 30 seconds plug in power up pc
[05:32] <micael> i am not good in console
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> micael: run: lspci | grep -i vga    use the output to find guides
[05:32] <Sereph> remove the /etc/init.d/ventrilo directory and then run cp /path/to/ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d/ventrilo
[05:32] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/uDPTc1HG
[05:32] <gogeta> tripelb:  cable modems will reject a pc untill you do that
[05:32] <Sereph> replacing /path/to with the real path obviously
[05:32] <xiven> I have some trouble with launchpad, what is there to be done for K/Ubuntu in Java or C#?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> http://pastebin.com/uDPTc1HG
[05:32] <tripelb> iferna: a crossover between my cable modem and what? Every set up I have ever seen, windows or linux, dsl or cable, one plugs fromt he modem (or router) into the ethernet card and it is online. Simple.
[05:33] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: im confused
[05:33] <DanDare> It´s NTFS3G Ubuntu release reliable enought for writing data ?
[05:33] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: where is ventrilo.txt
[05:33] <gogeta> tripelb: did you just say crossover pfft
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: ok then check the bug logs for stuff like that, or log a new bug
[05:33] <tripelb> gogeta. I dont have to do that with this computer... or any other. I can just plug in and unplug. the modem doesnt reject this computer. That's imagination.
[05:34] <hiexpo> ok
[05:34] <micael> ok but where do i find that lspci  (here)    grep  -i vga
[05:34] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: it is in: /etc/init.d/ventrilo
[05:34] <gogeta> tripelb: then dont do it thats how you fix it
[05:34] <tomato> tripelb: i found a better guide, on the ubuntu forums, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248724
[05:34] <gogeta> tripelb: just keep crying abought it
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> tripleb: interconnection device to PC uses a patch cable, if you connect PC to PC then you need to setup a static IP as well as use a crossover cable.
[05:34] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: mv /etc/init.d/ventrilo/ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d/
[05:34] <iflema> tripelb if the box you where given is old it may require a crossover cable for the cable modem.....
[05:35] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: tell me after you've done this
[05:35] <h00k> iflema: no, it won't. they've never required crossover cables
[05:35] <tripelb> thank you all for your help. insistence that you are right. I've done help-desk. I know up from down, even if I dont get it to work.  -- ActionParsnip I am NOT connecting computer to computer (in which case I would need a crossover cable)
[05:35] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: done
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: ok thats cool,
[05:35] <iflema> tripelb you not listing..... new hardware auto detects and sorts it for you... older stuff does not
[05:35] <tripelb> same problem: more testing I plugged it in. Did not pick up the wired signal. ifconfig changed to carrier 20 (rather than 0) and the modem pc and receive lights were flashing, send black.  -- SUM: not picking up wireless signal - not this computer another one.
[05:36] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: rm -rf /etc/init.d/ventrilo/
[05:36] <brah-> channels more empty than usual
[05:36] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: i got sick og telling him abought cable types and old machines
[05:36] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: done
[05:36] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: he takes no advice just complanes
[05:36] <tripelb> same problem: more testing I plugged it in. Did not pick up the wired signal. ifconfig changed to carrier 20 (rather than 0) and the modem pc and receive lights were flashing, send black.  -- SUM: not picking up wireless signal - not this computer another one.
[05:36] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: mv /etc/init.d/ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d/ventrilo
[05:37] <cbilljones> ok 195 nividia driver installed, screen still going black :(
[05:37] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: done
[05:37] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: sudo update-rc.d ventrilo defaults
[05:38] <tripelb> The 8 year old compaq computer detected it automatically. This one does. I've never seen one that doesnt. IF it were that kind then what would I do, iflema .. If I need to somehow "detect" it, what would I do to tell it to "detect" it?
[05:38] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: ha worked that time :)
[05:38] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: :)
[05:38] <gogeta> tripelb: so you are trying to cat 5 crossover it on a machine without autosence
[05:38] <phenom> tripelb, xiven, fyi this workaround http://blog.nachtarbeiter.net/2009/08/19/choppy-flash-video-in-full-screen-mode-on-ubuntu/ seems to work better than other fixes sated in http://blog.nachtarbeiter.net/2009/08/19/choppy-flash-video-in-full-screen-mode-on-ubuntu/  and the like.
[05:38] <Sereph> glad to be of service
[05:38] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: testing app now :)
[05:38] <gogeta> tripelb: not all device have autosence
[05:38] <gogeta> tripelb: age makes no diffrence
[05:38] <Sereph> stupid cat...
[05:38] <iflema> tripelb ignore me.... cable modems need a straight through..... sorry
[05:38] <tripelb> gogeta, i have no idea what you are talking about - what would you think I could try?
[05:39] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: hahah you rock .. can you now tell me what i did wrong so i can understand it?
[05:39] <gogeta> iflema: not if it has autosence
[05:39]  * iflema lol
[05:39] <RP64> hi
[05:39] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: somehow you made a directory in /etc/init.d/ called ventrilo when all you needed was a file called ventrilo that contained the instructions to start it which were in ventrilo.txt
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: try a new cable maybe?
[05:39] <gogeta> tripelb: your machine probly lacks autosence it will need a crossover for a pc tp pc link
[05:39] <tripelb> iflema, the output from a cable modem is just like the output from a dsl modem. AFAIK and has acted the same with my two other computers. (whatever their flaws.
[05:39] <RP64> I have huge problems after updating my ubuntu to 9.10 guys
[05:39] <RP64> HUUUUUGe problems...
[05:39] <RP64> im really dissapointed in ubuntu
[05:40] <RP64> this is really bad
[05:40] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, the cable works perfectly with this computer.
[05:40] <Sereph> RP64: explain yourself
[05:40] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: im not understanding the difference between a directory and a file
[05:40] <tripelb> gogeta, I do not want to make a pc to pc link.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> RP64: can you give some details or we cant help you
[05:40] <geekphreak> RP64: just ask man
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: ok, worth a shot
[05:40] <RP64> well, I updated it to 9.10 in the auto online update thing
[05:40] <mneptok> tripelb: so what is the problem? you plug into the cable modem and ... ?
[05:40] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: directory is a folder
[05:40] <gogeta> tripelb: then pc to modem link the modem will need a reset to pick up the change
[05:40] <tripelb> SpaceCowboy40404, a directory is a container for files
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: if you set a staic ip does it work?
[05:40] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: i installed the latest nvidia drivers(195) and screen is still blacking out(loses audio as well at that point) any more suggestion?
[05:40] <RP64> after updating, it restarts the computer, and my custom login screen with sounds is gone, its the default ubuntu human login screen
[05:40] <RP64> after logging in, it plays my custom login sound, but i see that the firefox logo is gone off the computer
[05:41] <RP64> so I just see a big red X where the firefox logos should be
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: latest bios may help
[05:41] <RP64> and, it won't recognize that I have a wireless card
[05:41] <bazhang> !enter | RP64
[05:41] <gogeta> tripelb: tech support guys call that power cycling
[05:41] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: so did you just have me create a ventrilo file by just removing the .txt on ventrilo.txt?
[05:41] <Sereph> basically
[05:41] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: ok cool
[05:41] <Sereph> but you had to move it out of the directory and remove the directory first
[05:41] <RP64> and I have no wired connection so if it doesn't recognize my wireless card then I can't use internet on it, my wired connection is being used by my parents computer and I can't hook mine up aswell its in a really far room
[05:41] <RP64> so what should I do sereph or somebody ?
[05:42] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: for the mobo? im thinking its a TV setting somewhere, couldnt get audio either at first but worked that part out
[05:42] <Sereph> thats why cp /path/to/txt/file /etc/init.d/ventrilo would have worked fine
[05:42] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: unfortunatly that guide was inaccurate and my vent server still doesnt work :(
[05:42] <Sereph> did you edit the ini or whatever?
[05:42] <RP64> sereph: what should I do what is this ?? why did this happen?
[05:42] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: yes
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: try setting a lower refresh rate
[05:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: wait.. i edited the ini file when it was in the donload directory not after i moved it to the other directory
[05:43] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, I cant change my ip. this works on this computer. np. the other compter does not see the signal.  mneptok I have a computer 9.10 it works. I unplug the internet signal cable from the ehternet, plug it into this other cmputer, no pickup of signal evident, though ifconfig shows some difference and the pc and receive light flash madly. I unplug it and plug it back in this computer, as normal works fine.
[05:43] <RP64> OK UPDATE: I just restarted it again, and now the wireless is being recognized, however my custom login screen and sound is still missing, and the FIREFOX logos are still missing, WTF????
[05:43] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: should be fine still. is this a server or a homepc?
[05:43] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: nvidia-settings doesnt let me adjust refresh
[05:43] <mneptok> tripelb: does you ISP use PPPoE or somesuch?
[05:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: laptop
[05:43] <gogeta> tripelb: its easy to do conect modem to pc thats not working power modem and pc off then plug modem back in and power up. its pretty likly that will fix your issue
[05:43] <RP64> WTF???
[05:43] <mneptok> *your
[05:43] <Sereph> !language | RP64
[05:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: on a wired connection behind a router
[05:44] <geekphreak> RP64: relax man :)
[05:44] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: port forwarded?
[05:44] <tripelb> mneptok, I have no idea. it's timewarner
[05:44] <gogeta> minedmind: itmakesno diffrence its the ac adress change that the modem needs to see
[05:44] <RP64> geekphreak: but im freaking out i mean , why is this stuff happening??
[05:44] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: yes port 3784 for both tcp and udp
[05:44] <tripelb> gogeta, I hear you and I am listening and I disagree. Thanks anyway.
[05:44] <Sereph> im going to kill this cat
[05:44] <mneptok> tripelb: also, does the cable modem bind to a specific MAC address for the client machine?
[05:44] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph to this machines internal ip address
[05:44] <geekphreak> RP64: well sometimes thing break, and you gotta fix it, look at it this way, you might learn something
[05:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: blah blah .102
[05:45] <gogeta> minedmind: most cable modems do why i told him to power cycle
[05:45] <mneptok> tripelb: it's unlikely TW uses PPPoE. that's usually a DSL thang.
[05:45] <Sereph> RP64: windows does this sort of thing rather often
[05:45] <RP64> geekphreak: but... shouldn't it be designed so that updating doesn't break your system ... -___     -
[05:45] <davekong> what is the current version of openssl being used in 9.10?
[05:45] <RP64> geekphreak: I mean if updating is required anyways
[05:45] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: hm.. im not really sure.. im falling asleep
[05:45] <aetaric> mneptok: they don't use pppoe
[05:45] <tripelb> mneptok, I dont think so. Let me power up a THIRD computer and see if that works. -- I've had no issues doing the same plug in plug out with a dsl from ATT.
[05:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: me too ill work on this some more tomorrow, thanks for the help
[05:45] <tripelb> Oy have to set it up...
[05:45] <Sereph> RP64: there is a disclaimer to backup files and settings just in case
[05:45] <gogeta> mneptok: i told him how if he doesent wanna take 30 seconds to do it itss his problem
[05:45] <mneptok> tripelb: that's AT&T. this is TW.
[05:45] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: no problem
[05:46] <RP64> sereph: my stuffs all backed up
[05:46] <geekphreak> RP64: , it does not break it , i and most of us here, update no worries here,
[05:46] <tripelb> sudden urge for Chocolate mneptok
[05:46] <Sereph> RP64: well thats good
[05:46] <adelcampo> RP64: what did you upgrade from?
[05:46] <RP64> sereph: but im just saying that now theres these problems and how do I fix them  D: :(((( "???
[05:46] <RP64> adelcampo: from 9.04
[05:46] <Sereph> -asleep-
[05:46] <mneptok> tripelb: there is not meatspace DCC on IRC, son.
[05:46] <aetaric> i don't think 9.10 lets you change the login screen?
[05:46] <RP64> aetaric: It doesnt???? they removed that ??
[05:47] <RP64> !!! ............
[05:47] <adelcampo> uhoh, he's going to freak out some more
[05:47] <RP64> thats...
[05:47] <RP64> bad
[05:47] <micael> ActionParsnip i did write lspci and then enter and then i wrote  grep -i vga and then nothing happend
[05:47] <aetaric> i *think*.... but i could be wrong. i hardly use ubuntu with a GUI so i could careless
[05:47] <geekphreak> micael: they have to be in same line :)
[05:48] <mneptok> tripelb: i'd wager that TW cable modem binds to a specific client MAC address at boot and blocks any others. the advice to power cycle the modem is good advice. do that, then plug in another machine, and "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart"
[05:48] <adelcampo> RP64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294929
[05:48] <RP64> lol hardly use with a GUI oh man that's actually kind of cool what kind of haxxoring are you up to ?
[05:48] <theadmin> Oookay, help me out with SSH a bit. My web host provided me with two SSH keys (public/private), which of them do i use for login and what is the second one for? o_O
[05:48] <RP64> oh thanks adelcampo
[05:48] <RP64> to everyone: But why is the Firefox Logo totally gone after update??
[05:49] <theadmin> RP64: That's some craziness Ubuntu people made up
[05:49] <aetaric> RP64: i run servers.... for a desktop OS i use OS X. (no flame wars please)
[05:49] <RP64> lols
[05:49] <gogeta> mneptok: i know they do comcast modems do that to i lost count on how many come in hear with that but they listion
[05:49] <micael> geekphreak ok  thanks i will try it
[05:49] <adelcampo> OS X is very nice
[05:49] <RP64> theadmin: so what am I supposed to do about using firefox?? download the logo for it again?
[05:49] <adelcampo> RP64: you mean a desktop icon?
[05:49] <RP64> adelcampo: yea desktop and startbar
[05:50] <theadmin> RP64: If you updated to 3.6 from 3.5 then you probably can't do much
[05:50] <geekphreak> theadmin: you trying to login to there ssh servers?
[05:50] <RP64> adelcampo: and I know it's not called startbar i just don't know what its called in ubuntu
[05:50] <theadmin> geekphreak: Well, yep
[05:50] <RP64> theadmin: HUH? its from 9.04 to 9.10 ... ???
[05:50] <theadmin> RP64: Ohhh
[05:50] <RP64> theadmin: you mean version of firefox then how can I even tell if it did that?
[05:50] <adelcampo> RP64: click on applications then internet and drag the firefox icon to where ever you want it to show
[05:50] <theadmin> RP64: Lol then you must install firefox-3.5-branding package
[05:50] <RP64> adelcampo: if I were to have installed from scratch using the CD would these problems be here
[05:51] <RP64> to adelcampo & theadmin: wait so which one of your advices should I do .
[05:51] <geekphreak> theadmin:  you will need to use there public key , which they sent you to access there ssh servers afaik
[05:51] <theadmin> geekphreak: What's the private one for?
[05:51] <theadmin> o_O
[05:51] <adelcampo> RP64: pick the easiest first
[05:51] <RP64> adelcampo: so theadmin's ???
[05:51] <aetaric> RP64: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html
[05:51] <adelcampo> RP64: what ever is easy for you
[05:51] <aetaric> there, go crazy
[05:51] <RP64> lol
[05:51] <micael> geekphreak thanks but that did not help me i dont understand anything of that
[05:51] <RP64> so I have to hack it omg
[05:52] <theadmin> RP64: well, try this first to tell if branding is installed: dpkg -l | grep 'firefox-3.5-branding'
[05:52] <aetaric> not really 'hack' more like enter a few cli commands
[05:52] <theadmin> lol windows people think CLI = hacking
[05:52] <adelcampo> hack is as meaningful these days as "amazing"
[05:52] <RP64> theadmin: is that a small L or a 1
[05:53] <geekphreak> micael: you need to give the result that comes out to the person who asked you to run that command :)
[05:53] <theadmin> RP64: Copy-paste if you're unsure :P that's an L
[05:53] <Jordan_U> adelcampo: Amazing insight!
[05:53] <RP64> theadmin: lol well I used ubuntu for 1 year alreadyi just said "hacking" cus the name of the forum post says hack in the title...
[05:53] <RP64> theadmin: im not on ubuntu for this chat this is my windows comp, got my laptop ubuntu on my leftside im double comping it up gangsta style
[05:53] <micael> geekpreak ok thanks
[05:53] <adelcampo> Jordan_U: i'll hack your limbs
[05:53] <Sevion> h00k: Are you there?
[05:54] <gogeta> mneptok: his silence answers tat for me lol
[05:54] <RP64> theadmin: it responds with information on the package, so i guess its installed
[05:54] <theadmin> RP64: I assume it has "ii" there right
[05:54] <theadmin> ?
[05:56] <RP64> theadmin: yeah
[05:56] <RP64> theadmin :D:D
[05:56] <RP64> bad or good?
[05:56] <theadmin> RP64: Well, then o_O Hm... good, but you may need to assign the icon manually
[05:56] <Sevion> h00k: I can now get past Grub Loading. I followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 Instruction #13. However, now I get to the "GNU GRUB version 1.97 beta 4 [Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device/flies completions] sh:grub>" screen. When I type boot, it says "error: no loaded kernel". When I try to use any
[05:57] <RP64> theadmin: lol and in the synaptic it says that firefox 3.5 branding is installed ...
[05:57] <theadmin> RP64: The icon file is /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox-3.5.png
[05:57] <adelcampo> RP64: i'm about to leave but it's worth a try if you click on applications then go to Internet and there drag the firefox icon to where ever you want it to show
[05:57] <mala1> hi
[05:57] <RP64> adelcampo: OK ill try that also
[05:58] <RP64> theadmin: is that the same icon as the one you're referencing? like same size same file?
[05:58] <mala1> how to make Transliteration for  tamil to english ?
[06:00] <Sevion> h00k: Are you there?
[06:00] <Jordan_U> Sevion: If you "ls /boot" from the grub shell do you see your kernels?
[06:01] <Sevion> Jordan_U I see "grub/" and that's it.
[06:01] <raj> GUYS to replace your medibuntu software sources ( default are doewn) USE this: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html   replace lucid with karmic works 100% i used the second mirror :)
[06:01] <genii> raj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810 Or use one of the mirrors listed at this bug report
[06:02] <Jordan_U> Sevion: You don't have grub installed to your Ubuntu partition then (at least the part of it in the filesystem). What grub-install command did you use?
[06:02] <Sevion> Jordan_U I used sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX per the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 on #13
[06:03] <Jordan_U> Sevion: Was your Ubuntu partition mounted to /mnt?
[06:04] <Sevion> Jordan_U: I'm not sure. Should I try reinstalling Ubuntu completely on that drive?
[06:04] <theadmin> I can't connect to my FTP :/
[06:04] <geekphreak> theadmin: sftp?
[06:04] <Jordan_U> Sevion: No need, just follow the guide again but "ls /mnt" before the grub-install to confirm you have the right partition mounted.
[06:05] <Sevion> Jordan_U: Alright, stand by for results.
[06:05] <theadmin> geekphreak: Nope, regular FTP, their SFTP is down. Normal one is up but i can't connect, it just does nothing
[06:06] <geekphreak> theadmin: what client are you using to connect?
[06:06] <theadmin> geekphreak: nautilus
[06:06] <geekphreak> theadmin: want to try something?
[06:06] <theadmin> geekphreak: hm?
[06:06] <geekphreak> theadmin: is it anonymous or login account?
[06:06] <theadmin> geekphreak: login
[06:07] <geekphreak> theadmin: ok open terminal , then type ftp address
[06:07] <RP64> bakk gais
[06:07] <geekphreak> wow i used a command without sudo, i must be getting good lol
[06:07] <RP64> 8D
[06:07] <DeM0nFiRe> Hello
[06:07] <RP64> theadmin: U never answerd me??? D:
[06:08] <theadmin> RP64: sry, i dunno
[06:08] <RP64> theadmin: is the icon he suggested the same as the one you suggested
[06:08] <RP64> thedmin: Phft
[06:08] <theadmin> geekphreak: k it asks for password
[06:08] <DeM0nFiRe> I was wondering if anyone here's been able to get OpenGL 3d hardware accelleration on a Radeon 5000 series card on Ubuntu
[06:08] <theadmin> geekphreak: Let's see
[06:08] <DeM0nFiRe> If so, what drivers did you use?
[06:08] <dsnyders> What advantages does ubuntu have over mandriva?
[06:10] <geekphreak> theadmin: any luck dude?
[06:11] <theadmin> geekphreak: pastebining it
[06:11] <theadmin> geekphreak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419645/
[06:11] <Sevion> Jordan_U: Hey! It seems to have worked! Thanks!
[06:12] <DeM0nFiRe> Do the latest Linux Catalyst drivers work properly in Ubuntu?
[06:12] <Sevion> h00k: Thanks for all of your help earlier; I seem to have got it to work!
[06:13] <voss749> Demon, did they ever work?
[06:13] <DeM0nFiRe> I don't know, that's what I am asking
[06:13] <RP64> guys is there a chance that in the future, it will return to the old version of GDM?
[06:13] <DeM0nFiRe> I am using Fedora now, but I am thinking of switching if I can use it as a dev platform for my OpenGL engine
[06:13] <znxtch> I played with Compiz advanced effects.  I got in over my head so I deleted the Compiz advanced effects package in an attempt to restore everything to default appearance settings.  Everything looks like it has returned to normal EXCEPT my window minimize and maximize animation. I tried going to System>Pref>Appeareance and setting the display settngs back to 'Normal'.  But it did not work.  My windows have a very fast shimmying effect and then they "suck" to
[06:13] <znxtch> the bottom of the screen.
[06:13] <voss749> dsnyders, Get a live cd and test it out for yourself
[06:14] <Jordan_U> Sevion: You're welcome.
[06:14] <theadmin> geekphreak: Goddamit, what kind of a full I am :/ I totally forgot FTP password differs from CPanel one
[06:14] <znxtch> Does anyone know how to turn this off?
[06:14] <theadmin> sed s/full/fool/
[06:14] <RP64> new GDM is inferior shows your login name, and no customization option by default... if its only slight speed advantage maybe its not worth it I mean who passed this decision?!?!
[06:14] <geekphreak> theadmin: hehe :)
[06:14] <voss749> dsnyder, with a live cd you can test it without committing
[06:14] <Jordan_U> RP64: No, but new GDM will become more configurable over time.
[06:14] <RP64> Jordan_U: How do u know that?
[06:15] <geekphreak> theadmin: its ok we all make mistake :)
[06:15] <DeM0nFiRe> voss749: was that @ me?
[06:15] <voss749> demonfire, try a live cd too
[06:15] <Jordan_U> RP64: Because the GNOME developers said so.
[06:15] <DeM0nFiRe> yeah, ok. I'll try it when I get a chance. I was just hoping someone would know already. I'll just wait a while
[06:15] <RP64> Jordan_U: why isn't it customizable already tho... -_______       -
[06:15] <DeM0nFiRe> Maybe Fedora will eventually get support
[06:16] <voss749> demon, you can even use a usb flash drive to fully test it out with a persistent install on the flash drive
[06:16] <Jordan_U> RP64: I don't know.
[06:16] <tripelb> test
[06:16] <RP64> ing
[06:16] <RP64> 123
[06:17] <RP64> and god said Check check, check check, and abraham said to god Please speak closer to the mic, I cannot hear you and god said Check Check, sound test one two three, check
[06:17] <voss749> demon, I know nvidia drivers work pretty well, I dont know about ATI
[06:17] <crucialhoax> DeM0nFiRe: The new F13 is beautiful if you are looking to switch. Even tho that is not relevant to you needs lol.
[06:17] <bazhang> RP64, please stop that
[06:17] <RP64> bazhang: Oh really
[06:17] <DeM0nFiRe> lol crucialhoax I need OpenGL. The only reason I have linux installed is for cross platform game dev :P
[06:18] <theadmin> heh, my webhost is hilarious :D It has two folders, second one symlinks to first, public_html and www
[06:18] <voss749> crucial, The thing about Fedora it always feels like a freakin beta test. Its like red hat uses fedora users to test its new dog food
[06:18] <tptptptptp> is shorewall now obsolete for ubuntu?
[06:18] <theadmin> Well, got to go now
[06:19] <jaldhar> I thought the problem with boot hanging was fixed.  I just upgraded from jaunty to lucid and I am having this problem (unfortunately on my root partition.)  Oddly enough it doesn't happen if I boot into the 2.6.31-18 I luckily had laying around
[06:19] <clickme> hi everyone
[06:19] <tripelb> mneptok, OK talked to a screechy lady at TimeWarner who told me it's my computer, lol, that I need to reset between, so I did that. I then looked and saw your command suggestions >  sudo invoke -rc.d networking restart  < result was "sudo: invoke: command not found  -- this on 9.04 live cd
[06:19] <tripelb> click
[06:19] <jaldhar> is it an initrd problem?
[06:19] <billy2007> !lucid | jaldhar
[06:19] <tptptptptp> is shorewall now obsolete for ubuntu?
[06:19] <voss749> crucial, you can supposedly see the difference in stability between Fedora and Centos which builds its code from RHEL
[06:19] <jaldhar> ok off to #ubuntu+1 then
[06:19] <crucialhoax> DeM0nFiRe: Like I said, my comment was irrelevant :)
[06:19] <DeM0nFiRe> lol
[06:20] <genii> tptptptptp: Probably not since apt-cache search shorewall shows it available for install under Lucid
[06:20] <DeM0nFiRe> Seems wierd that I can't find anyone who knows if the 5800 series cards work in any linux distro xD
[06:20] <billy2007> bazhang, you here?
[06:20] <tptptptptp> genii, what is shorewall-common? that's the only package.
[06:20] <crucialhoax> voss749: I learned on CentOS and that OS is immensely stable. Has some old packages but rarely froze to cause a reboot.
[06:20] <bazhang> billy2007, hi
[06:21] <billy2007> bazhang, i was speaking to you the other day about my webcam i dont know if you remember
[06:21] <crucialhoax> DeM0nFiRe: What does google suggest?
[06:21] <voss749> Demon, is this good enough http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/AMD-Catalyst-Driver-Supports-Radeon-5800-and-Ubuntu-9.10
[06:21] <DeM0nFiRe> I've been searching, haven't found anything yet
[06:21] <rocket161> billy2007: bazhang: This is the Support Channel. Please don't make offtopic discussions here.
[06:21] <genii> tptptptptp: http://pastebin.com/DG1jBczX shows the results here. More than just shorewall-comman
[06:22] <billy2007> rocket161, how about NO you dont even know what were talking about
[06:22] <DeM0nFiRe> Oh thanks voss749 interesting
[06:22] <xpurple`> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a computer and things are fine till it goes to partiton, it does not show my drive.  Though, I can mount the drive in live mode.  Any ideas.
[06:22] <rocket161> !offtopic > billy2007
[06:22] <billy2007> rocket161, m8 go away
[06:23] <voss749> demon, so 5800 cards are supported in ubuntu 9.10 and im sure that support will carryover into 10.04
[06:23] <billy2007> u still here bazhang
[06:23] <DeM0nFiRe> Cool, I will try it when I get a chance then
[06:23] <bazhang> billy2007, have you checked the webcam support list yet? that would be a good place to start.
[06:23] <crucialhoax> DeM0nFiRe: Does it work on a LiveCD?
[06:23] <voss749> Demon, hence my suggestion for a live usb drive then if you like it you can have the live usb install to the hard drive
[06:23] <bazhang> !webcam | billy2007
[06:23] <billy2007> ive looked high and low m8 no luck :(
[06:24] <billy2007> we looked there last time
[06:24] <bazhang> billy2007, what make and model I will check the forums
[06:24] <DeM0nFiRe> Oh, heh, a live USB, I don't have a USB stick, I only have a USB external drive which already has other stuff in it
[06:24] <DeM0nFiRe> I thought maybe you could load the drivers into memory through a live CD
[06:24] <billy2007> 2 secs bear with me
[06:24] <voss749> demonfire you can do that too
[06:24] <DeM0nFiRe> Oh, really?
[06:24] <crucialhoax> DeM0nFiRe: USB's are bootable.
[06:25] <DeM0nFiRe> I know
[06:25] <DeM0nFiRe> I thought he was suggesting to install Ubuntu on the USB, not as a live image
[06:25] <crucialhoax> You can install it fully.
[06:25] <tripelb> I have a cable modem and only one of my 3 haphazard computers will connect. this is 9.10 the others were 9.04-liveCD. I dont get it. Can anyone help? I called TimeWarner and they said, must be your computer. (standard push-off) Our cable obviously works. (Yes I tried powercycling between connections)
[06:25] <DeM0nFiRe> I don't want to, I just said that :P
[06:25] <voss749> Demon you can install a persistent version of ubuntu on a usb stick
[06:25] <bazhang> DeM0nFiRe, you can make it persistent if you wish
[06:25] <DeM0nFiRe> I don't want to make it persistent, lol
[06:26] <DeM0nFiRe> I want it to be a temp live image
[06:26] <voss749> or use it just like an install cd except its faster
[06:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Yeah, only I don't have a USB stick ATM, but I do need one
[06:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Maybe I will head down to radio shack tomorrow
[06:26] <voss749> usb installs tend to be a lot faster and less problem prone than cd installs (no coasters)
[06:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Yep
[06:27] <billy2007> bazhang, its a logitech quick cam chat but i cant seem to download a driver from anywhere and it dosnt work on that cheese program you reccomended last time
[06:27] <DeM0nFiRe> You know what I should do? Just make myself a nice utility USB disk. You can chain grub loaders, right?
[06:27] <DeM0nFiRe> IE, have one of the options in the GRUB menu be another GRUB installation?
[06:28] <bazhang> billy2007, could you paste the output of lsusb and lspci to paste.ubuntu.com please
[06:28] <voss749> Demonfire, A 4gb stick will do fine, radioshack has a 4gb sandisk cruzer on sale for $14.99
[06:28] <billy2007> bazhang, m/n v-ubc40
[06:28] <tptptptptp> genii, I don't get those results
[06:28] <billy2007> whats that??
[06:29] <Jordan_U> DeM0nFiRe: Yes.
[06:29] <DeM0nFiRe> Cool
[06:29] <tptptptptp> nvm
[06:29] <billy2007> bazhang, sorry whats lsusb and lspci
[06:29] <DeM0nFiRe> That will be cool then, because I can just make a nice utility USB with Ubuntu, Fedora, SuperGRUBdisk, gparted live cd
[06:29] <DeM0nFiRe> ANd when a new version of one comes out, I can just plug in the new version :D
[06:29] <bazhang> billy2007, commands to be run in the terminal and then put on paste.ubuntu.com
[06:30] <geekphreak> DeM0nFiRe: all i need is ubuntu, it has everything :)
[06:30] <Jordan_U> DeM0nFiRe: It can also boot LiveCDs from isos, so you can create a live system on your current USB drive without repartitioning.
[06:30] <DeM0nFiRe> lol, well, I actually did use to use a Ubuntu livecd as my rescue disk
[06:30] <DeM0nFiRe> But I found a couple things it couldn't quite do for me, so I added some stuff
[06:31] <tripelb> voss749, radioshack isnt cheap. frys online officemax all cheaper. prolly other places depending on location.
[06:31] <DeM0nFiRe> Well, I will be walking down to radioschak, I am not going to bother ordering online for one USB stick
[06:31] <DeM0nFiRe> radioshack*
[06:31] <billy2007> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/JSaLSKfZ
[06:32] <DeM0nFiRe> I guess the supermarket has a couple USB sticks as well, so we'll see
[06:32] <tripelb> DeM0nFiRe, works for you fine.
[06:32] <billy2007> rocket16, now tell me im "off-topic"
[06:32] <crucialhoax> lol @ billy2007
[06:32] <tripelb> I have a cable modem and only one of my 3 haphazard computers will connect. this is 9.10 the others were 9.04-liveCD. I dont get it. Can anyone help? I called TimeWarner and they said, must be your computer. (standard push-off) Our cable obviously works. (Yes I tried powercycling between connections)
[06:33] <Optimus55> Hey i have no xorg.conf on my laptop and i'm trying to install some s3 drivers. dpkg-reconfigure didn't make an xorg. any ideas?
[06:33] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: xorg.conf is not needed. But X server will recognize it if you do make one.
[06:33] <rocket16> billy2007: You're welcome to discuss about Webcam and other related matters, but things like "Hi Bazhang, how are you?" aren't allowed here. Please do not repeat such things in future, since this channel is a Support channel.
[06:33] <billy2007> crucialhoax, i hate it when people do that he didnt even know what we were talking about and he's butting in
[06:33] <aetr> shshshs
[06:34] <bazhang> rocket16, please stop that
[06:34] <billy2007> rocket16, i think youll find i didnt say that
[06:34] <Optimus55> crucialhoax: it doesn't recognize my (older) s3 card so i want to make one to specify the savage driver. How do i do this, or is there a better way?
[06:34] <billy2007> i asked him if he was here
[06:34] <bazhang> billy2007, I dont see a webcam in those; were they plugged in?
[06:34] <tripelb> hereverybody here knows so much more than I do. I'll have to give it up till another day. Thanks for your help iflema
[06:34] <billy2007> yes it was let me try a different port
[06:34] <aetr> what tthe little fuck?
[06:34] <rocket16> billy2007: You did, please stop such drama on the support channel.
[06:34] <tripelb> iflema, you may not have seen my results
[06:34] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: Let me check, I might have a tut in my bookmarks
[06:35] <bazhang> aetr, watch the language
[06:35] <geekphreak> aetr: watch language please
[06:35] <aetr> ok
[06:35] <billy2007> rocket16, go back and check then you idiot
[06:35] <bazhang> billy2007, that's enough
[06:35] <billy2007> sorry
[06:35] <tripelb> iflema,  I have a cable modem and only one of my 3 haphazard computers will connect. this is 9.10 the others were 9.04-liveCD. I dont get it. Can anyone help? I called TimeWarner and they said, must be your computer. (standard push-off) Our cable obviously works. (Yes I tried powercycling between connections)
[06:35] <billy2007> ah its here now ill just pstebin it quick
[06:35] <tripelb> iflema, mneptok, OK talked to a screechy lady at TimeWarner who told me it's my computer, lol, that I need to reset between, so I did that. I then looked and saw your command suggestions >  sudo invoke -rc.d networking restart  < result was "sudo: invoke: command not found  -- this on 9.04 live cd
[06:36] <rocket16> billy2007: Hey, last warning to you, watch your language.
[06:36] <wrapster> guys after i revived my machine from a potential disk space issue.. any time i try to download a file i get an error like this... "There is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp/DNRtVZ1q.bin.part."
[06:36] <wrapster> im  unable to download antyhing...
[06:36] <rocket16> bazhang: Continue misusing your Operator status, and you'll get the result,
[06:36] <RP64> hai gais 8D
[06:36] <wrapster> and the / partiton has 537M free still
[06:36] <billy2007> bazhang can you shut him up or im gunna end up getting banned
[06:36] <DeM0nFiRe> So thanks for the help voss749 and Jordan_U. I currently have fedora installed, and when I asked about ATI in fedora, they told me to get Nvidia 0_0
[06:37] <tripelb> wrapster empty trash. how much free space do you have? maybe burn some cd's and free up more space (like I did).
[06:37] <mneptok> tripelb: "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart"
[06:37] <RP64> .
[06:37] <mneptok> tripelb: you added a space
[06:37] <billy2007> bazhang, thankyou http://pastebin.com/PJvANTBh
[06:37] <geekphreak> wrapster: hey you are back again :)
[06:37] <tripelb> mneptok, oh
[06:37] <mneptok> tripelb: and hove you power-cycled the modem?
[06:37] <tripelb> mn
[06:37] <DeM0nFiRe> lol, Jordan_U has been helping me all day in 3 different channels, haha
[06:37] <Optimus55> crucialhoax: any luck?
[06:37] <geekphreak> wrapster:  do you download a lot man ?
[06:37] <the_file> any1 good with notepad++?.
[06:37] <wrapster> geekphreak: yeah
[06:37] <wrapster> quite a lot all my office work infact.
[06:37] <sasayins> how can i access window shared folder?
[06:37] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: I think maybe this will work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[06:38] <geekphreak> wrapster: backit up to cd or external drive, leave some space on hdd bud
[06:38] <DeM0nFiRe> the_file: notepad++ is awesome why?
[06:38] <tripelb> mneptok, yes powercycled. oh re the space. search on my name and see the two meaty reports. oh one has your name on it anyway.
[06:38] <wrapster> geekphreak: ok
[06:38] <Daemonic> anyone here with a working Radeon 4600 series?
[06:38] <dick> hello
[06:38] <Optimus55> crucialhoax: thanks will try
[06:38] <dick> any one interested in diamond jewelry?
[06:39] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: No problem, let us know if you need more info. I will keep searching.
[06:39] <genii> !ot | dick
[06:39] <Optimus55> crucialhoax: thanks
[06:39] <wrapster> btw i have a slice called "overflow" i didnt have it earleri i gues... http://pastie.org/927322
[06:39] <bazhang> dick, wrong channel for that; this is Ubuntu support only
[06:39] <wrapster> geekphreak: can you look at that pastie..
[06:39] <dick> helo
[06:39] <dick> what is this
[06:39] <co_shifty> Hey everybody, so I got a new monitor and had a display problem, I reconfigure xorg then rebooted, now I get black screen right after grub and nothing else :/.
[06:39] <geekphreak> wrapster: looking 1 sec
[06:39] <tripelb> mneptok, will redo. have to disconnect to try it, obviously. But interetingly THIS computer immediatly seeks (round thing on panel circles like two fish)  but the other one (that's computer number 1. this is number2. The one I was fussing with at first is number 3. (order of getting them.)
[06:40] <billy2007> !ubuntu | dick
[06:40] <Jordan_U> co_shifty: Have you tried booting in "recovery mode"?
[06:40] <billy2007> not what i was looking for
[06:40] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: This came up when searching for the `savage` driver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192023
[06:40] <the_file> anyone know how to get autocomplete trigger without me pressing ctrl+space bar in notepad++?.
[06:41] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, I have ^_^, su log in the startx works fine, just doesn't boot
[06:41] <dick> Vintage Engagement Rings http://www.mividazul.com/
[06:41] <bazhang> billy2007, it seems to be supported with the gspac v4l2 driver http://moinejf.free.fr/webcam.html
[06:41] <geekphreak> wrapster:  for some reason, that link aint openng here
[06:41] <genii> dick: No ads here
[06:41] <wrapster> geekphreak: ah the problem could also be this.. I usually work on my machine so much that i dont switch it off at all (only once a week) so till then everything will just pile up in tmp.
[06:41] <Kcj1993> Hello, can someone help me get a 3g modem working in 9.10?
[06:41] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, *then I type startx
[06:41] <wrapster> geekphreak: ok i'll paste it elswhere.. one sec.
[06:41] <geekphreak> wrapster:  opened now 1 sec
[06:41] <wrapster> geekphreak: ok
[06:42] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, yea starting gui from recovery console works, but normal boot gives me the problem I described
[06:42]  * genii hands mneptok a tasty cookie
[06:42]  * mneptok devours it instantly, crumbs flying
[06:43] <billy2007> ah thankyou bazhang you dont know where i can download this driver by anychance?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> co_shifty: Can you try pressing 'e' in the grub menu to edit the normal menu entry and remove "splash" from the kernel parameters?
[06:43] <geekphreak> wrapster: the issue is overflow in output?
[06:43] <DeM0nFiRe> Ahh, I guess maybe I will get a coiple of the 4GB drives from RS
[06:43] <bazhang> billy2007, let me check, just a moment
[06:43] <billy2007> thanks
[06:43] <wrapster> geekphreak: i guess so
[06:43] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, sure, I'll try that, I'll have to get back to you in a few minutes.
[06:44] <tripelb> OK then mneptok iflema will powercycle now.
[06:44] <azverkan> st
[06:44] <geekphreak> wrapster:  you got plenty of space on other partition, why not empty some on main?
[06:45] <jhambo> ...doesn't really want to be debugging what's supposed to be the "stable" version of ubuntu but would like to have kmail work...
[06:45] <wrapster> geekphreak: yes i know.. but there is nothing in main
[06:45] <geekphreak> wrapster:  still it has just 500 mb left with nothing on it?
[06:45] <wrapster> i dont have anything kept under /..
[06:45] <bazhang> billy2007, does it work with camorama? are you trying to use it with skype or some other application?
[06:45] <wrapster> geekphreak: yeah thats what i dont understand.
[06:46] <geekphreak> wrapster: can you do something for me
[06:46] <RP64> hey guys im having some weird problem with my speakers/headphones after updating my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10
[06:46] <wrapster> geekphreak: i went through the contents and could not find anything apart from a few vbox pkgs
[06:46] <Kcj1993> hello? I really hate using windoze.
[06:46] <wrapster> geekphreak: what?
[06:46] <subone> trying to run stat on a series of files so i can tell if i've seen videos recently, but the access times do not coincide with my viewing them recently. Why wouldn't the access time be updated? NTFS external drive
[06:46] <geekphreak> wrapster: press alt+f1, then goto accesories, see anything which says disk usage
[06:46] <billy2007> skype hopefully yes i found which driver i need its zc3xx
[06:46] <RP64> my speakers keep crackling really small-ly / lightly, every minute or so, like a little "pop" but it comes out of my actual speakers and headphones at the same time , while headphones are plugged in
[06:46] <RP64> Why is this ??????
[06:46] <billy2007> but i cant find the download
[06:47] <mjabirk> hi
[06:47] <wrapster> geekphreak: disk usage analyser.. im in it
[06:47] <crucialhoax> RP64: In a terminal type `lshw -C Sound` please
[06:47] <crucialhoax> RP64: I may have a solution
[06:47] <geekphreak> wrapster: please do check which folder is taking so much space  on your main system
[06:47] <RP64> WAIT
[06:48] <RP64> it says
[06:48] <RP64> warning : you should use this program as super user
[06:48] <RP64> ???
[06:48] <crucialhoax> RP64: Just let it run...
[06:48] <RP64> ok i did
[06:48] <crucialhoax> It does not need to be ran as SU.
[06:48] <jhambo> launching kmail gives me a segmentation fault with the following dumped to the terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419658/.  Any help figuring out whats going on would be greatly appreciated
[06:48] <RP64> so what should I do afterwards? i inputed it, it gave me a list
[06:48] <crucialhoax> Why does chromium state the only differences are branding, usage stats, and auto update, if chromium is in the repos?
[06:49] <RP64> oh and after i unplugged my headphones the crackling stopped
[06:49] <RP64> from physical speaker aswell
[06:49] <mneptok> RP64: please keep questions on as few lines as possible. you have been asked before. it's now becoming distracting.
[06:49] <crucialhoax> RP64: Post the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[06:49] <RP64> OK
[06:49] <afd__> hi! I'd like to make java applets work in my browser, but I don't have sun-java6-plugin package in my synaptic. What do I do?
[06:49] <srulit> Hi! This is my first experience both with a chat as well as Ubuntu/Linux. I am having problem with my sound, I do not get any. I can not find how I can configure my sound. I have tried sound preference where I only find one alternative for the output being "Dummy output Stereo". What does it mean and what can I do to get the sound working?
[06:50] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, well dude it worked, no idea why :P
[06:50] <RP64> cucialhoax: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419659/
[06:52] <billy2007> bazhang, you still here?
[06:52] <RP64> question to all: Is the GDM GTK theme your login screen?
[06:52] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, I am wondering why it worked, and if splash is needed in boot comands
[06:52] <crucialhoax> RP64: Give me a minute to find the tutorial please.
[06:52] <Jordan_U> co_shifty: You can remove splash from the default kernel parameters by editing /etc/default/grub then running "sudo update-grub". It's likely that you'll be able to enable splash again without problems once lucid is released and you upgrade because lucid uses a completely new boot splash, plymouth.
[06:53] <Jordan_U> co_shifty: All it does is show that nice little white ubuntu icon during boot.
[06:53] <RP64> crucialhoax: Lol OK no probs
[06:53] <wrapster> geekphreak: it just says 100% used on / and thats all
[06:53] <wrapster> cant actually find out where its coming from
[06:53] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, oh right, it didn't show up, kk I will do that, I'm also thinking of trying the beta :), can't wait
[06:53] <bazhang> billy2007, sorry, was on the phone; http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=691191 this link may have some info on that webcam
[06:53] <geekphreak> wrapster: open terminal
[06:54] <wrapster> geekphreak: doe
[06:54] <wrapster> geekphreak: done
[06:54] <geekphreak> wrapster:  type du -sh $HOME
[06:54] <crucialhoax> RP64: Ok, do you have a term open?
[06:54] <billy2007> thsnk you bazhang
[06:54] <RP64> crucialhoax: yea
[06:55] <wrapster> geekphreak: 384M
[06:56] <geekphreak> wrapster: thats not bad at all  , do you have any other account on this system too?
[06:56] <Optimus55> crucialhoax: got it working, eventually did a gdm stop then Xorg -reconfigure
[06:56] <wrapster> geekphreak: no
[06:56] <Optimus55> made an xorg file i copied to the X11 folder and now the screen refreshes are faster
[06:56] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: Nice going! I will keep that in mind :)
[06:57] <Daemonic> WHY WHY WHY DO ATI DRIVERS SUCKS SO BAD! ARGH!
[06:57] <RP64> mneptok: Bitte habe kein zorn, wir sind alle brudere hier mein kind
[06:58] <tripelb> I did it. powecycled, ran invoke-rc.d successfully.  mneptok, iflema back. no results. ifconfig shows no connection. RX packet shows 9380 erorrs TX 11 errors and txqueuelen:1000  == but no lights flashing but pc. Plug this one in, autoconnect.
[06:58] <geekphreak> wrapster: run that command for /tmp and /var plz
[06:58] <crucialhoax> RP64: type `gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf`
[06:59] <RP64> crucialhoax: OK
[06:59] <wrapster> geekphreak: /tmp -> 8K ; /var -> 271M
[06:59] <Daemonic> fgl_glxgears = 200fps @ 800x600? on a quad core intel with a 4670HD Radeon. NICE NICE NICE!
[06:59] <crucialhoax> Now do a Control+F to find and type power then see if the term is in there.
[06:59] <tripelb> RP64, Please no anger, we has is all brudere my child here"   (google translation)
[06:59] <crucialhoax> RP64: Now do a Control+F to find and type power then see if the term is in there.
[06:59] <RP64> crucialhoax:  OK, now it opens a text file oh OK, wait WHAT term?
[07:00] <RP64> oh OK
[07:00] <tripelb> twiddles
[07:00] <xpurple`> When I try to install ubuntu the "prepare partitions" section is empty.  I can mount the drive I'm trying to install manually.  Any ideas?
[07:00] <RP64> crucialhoax:  yes it finds the word power
[07:00] <geekphreak> wrapster: thats not bad either to be honest
[07:01] <mneptok> RP64: why are you speaking German?
[07:01] <wrapster> geekphreak: i know.. so where is this space taking up from? :(
[07:01] <RP64> mneptop: because you're from frankfurt
[07:01] <crucialhoax> RP64: Ok, is this what is looks like? ptions snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
[07:01] <mneptok> RP64: uh. no.
[07:01] <RP64> mneptok: yes you are
[07:02] <geekphreak> wrapster: prob you got too many applications installed
[07:02] <RP64> crucialhoax:  yeah it says that
[07:02] <wrapster> geekphreak: yeah that could be a possiblity.
[07:02] <wrapster> hmm..
[07:02] <crucialhoax> RP64: Change the `10` to a `0` then save the file and close it.
[07:02] <mneptok> RP64: i think your meds may have expired.
[07:02] <Daemonic> no one here uses ATI video cards?
[07:02] <Daemonic> doesn't surprise me
[07:02] <RP64> mneptok: yeah they did the voices are getting louder
[07:02] <RP64> crucialhoax:  OK are you sure that won't break anything?!
[07:02] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: I've got an ATI card, but I have a 5850
[07:03] <geekphreak> wrapster:  but you have to be very arefull with removing those application so as not to take out other dependent lib. and other files , keep that in mind , specially the X
[07:03] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: latest ati driver from their site?
[07:03] <DeM0nFiRe> I am not using them, because I am on Fedora ATM
[07:03] <wrapster> hmm.. ok
[07:03] <mneptok> RP64: it's better you stay on support related topics.
[07:03] <DeM0nFiRe> I am going to test them on Ubuntu soon
[07:03] <tripelb> I have a cable modem. It works on this computer (9.10) plugged into the ethernet port. So far it does not work on two other computers (9.04 liveCD) Is thins normal? The gal at TimeWarnes screeches at me that it's on my end. ((Yes I powercycled and  yes I am using the same cable coming from the modem just plugging it into a different computer
[07:03] <crucialhoax> RP64: It is just telling the system not to power down the sound driver.
[07:04] <RP64> mneptok: I am on support topics I'm just responding why you asked why I'm speaking German and I was because you are german that's all , Im actually in middle of discussion about support right now
[07:04] <RP64> crucialhoax:  OH so this is only part 1 of more steps?
[07:04] <crucialhoax> RP64: Have you already saved the file?
[07:04]  * tripelb is persistent
[07:04] <RP64> crucialhoax:  yes
[07:04] <tripelb> will keep an eye on this chat.
[07:05] <geekphreak> wrapster: listen dude , terminal still open?
[07:05] <mneptok> tripelb: power cycled the modem?
[07:05] <Daemonic> tripelb: motorola?
[07:05] <crucialhoax> RP64: Then I am assuming the file is closed, go ahead and reboot and see if the sound still pops.
[07:05] <Joundill> Hey guys
[07:05] <RP64> crucialhoax:  OK :D but does this have any bad side effects or other changes? D:
[07:05] <Joundill> I need some help with my TV tuner card
[07:05] <crucialhoax> RP64: My laptop has the same line
[07:05] <Daemonic> tripelb: my cable modem, motorola surfboard, does that from time to time.. a couple power cycles and it gives up an ip fine.
[07:05] <Joundill> is there anybody who knows a bit about bttv here?
[07:06] <RP64> crucial: OK :D BRB
[07:07] <geekphreak> anyways i am out got work to do, cya folks
[07:07] <crucialhoax> cya geekphreak
[07:08] <RP64_> hola back, it worked!!! you're a genious dawg
[07:09] <Daemonic> dawg? fo`real?
[07:09] <Daemonic> who the hell talks like that anymore?
[07:09] <RP64_> Oh wow, it has my previous logon as "RP64" on this chat, even though I restarted my computer and just rejoined.... wow....
[07:09] <crucialhoax> Daemonic: haha
[07:09] <theadmin> My webhosts permissions are all liek 0777 or 0600 or similar, what on earth is the preceeding zero? Just don't say "sticky", explain please?
[07:10] <RP64_> daemonic: its just a joke dawg...
[07:10] <crucialhoax> RP64: I told you it worked
[07:10] <Daemonic> really? I thought you were seriously ghetto.
[07:10] <crucialhoax> haha wow.
[07:10] <zenlunatic> theadmin, man umask
[07:10] <psypher246> hello all, does anyone have any experience with evolution and the exchange connector, my domain admins have gone and changed a whole bunch of stuff and now i cannot connect to exhcnage anymore, they are not helpful, they don't support linux :(
[07:11] <theadmin> zenlunatic: No manual page for umask
[07:11] <frankie_> HELLO I NEED HELP
[07:11] <RP64> woah it fixed itself? tihs chat is magic..
[07:11] <crucialhoax> Everything here is magical.
[07:11] <theadmin> frankie_: 1) Don't caps 2) with what?
[07:11] <mneptok> frankie_: the <capslock> key is next to the "a" on US keyboards. does that solve your problem? ;)
[07:11] <zenlunatic> theadmin, google
[07:11] <hunahpu> frankie_: Hello, try not to use caps they mean you're yelling and that's rude; do you have a question?
[07:12] <frankie_> i did not know
[07:12] <theadmin> frankie_: Don't worry. What's your problem?
[07:12] <crucialhoax> zenlunatic: That was helpful
[07:13] <frankie_> I use windows and my friend tells me to try linux but I am worried how do i know linux is good ?
[07:13] <theadmin> frankie_: Uhm. Linux ain't "better" or "worse", it's different
[07:13] <DeM0nFiRe> If you don't know why you should use linux, you shouldn't
[07:13] <RP64> ANYONE here know how to change
[07:13] <RP64>  login screen + sounds on this new GDK?
[07:13] <DeM0nFiRe> Windows is generally a much easier to use OS
[07:13] <hunahpu> frankie_: Linux is "the best" for some of us, but may not be the best for other people.
[07:14] <Daemonic> frankie_: you try it.
[07:14] <DeM0nFiRe> And it more friendly for the average desktop user
[07:14] <RP64> OOPS that being split onto 2 lines was accident Mr. Admin i was trying to copy paste that and it got messed up
[07:14] <theadmin> ubottu: tell frankie_ about wubi
[07:14] <crucialhoax> theadmin: Does this help? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-July/085257.html
[07:14] <hunahpu> frankie_: you can try it and find out if it's for you, download Ubuntu and try it out, you don't have to install it you can try it out using the LiveCD, it won't touch your hard drive.
[07:14] <deserteagle> hello all
[07:14] <frankie_> thank you ubottu i will see
[07:14] <theadmin> frankie_: Linux Mint, however, might be a better "starting point" for newbies
[07:15] <hunahpu> frankie_: there is no virus, spyware, automatic trojans, etc... it feels really good not to be worried 24/7, it's liberating.
[07:15] <Daemonic> I vote for Linuxmint too
[07:15] <RP64> Anyone here know how to update my grub 1.5 to the new grub 2?? im on the newest Ubuntu version but my grub is still the old grub
[07:15] <frankie_> i was told to try linux mint and ubuntu.. i dont have a probelm with learning new things
[07:15] <crucialhoax> Sleep is better with Ubuntu.
[07:15] <Daemonic> good newb f00d
[07:15] <hunahpu> hello deserteagle how can we help you?
[07:15] <deserteagle> question: I'm having flash issues on FF: can't load facebook games or get to the flash settings manager page to erase the cache, any clues?
[07:15] <RP64> I vote for ubuntu, its easy for nubblets
[07:15] <Resbaloso> It is time to put those Haitian jigaboos in their place!  No matter how many times the civilized world donates money, opens schools, rebuilds their nation, and holds their little monkey paws, the damn niggers can never get it right.  Mexicali had a worse earthquake than Haiti, and only about 4 people died!  Even the housing of the poor generally held up! Meanwhile even the Haitian elites couldn't build decent buildings.
[07:15] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: What version of FF are you using?
[07:15] <Resbaloso> Look at what happened to the house of their monkey president!  If you are sick of the fecal beast Join Chimpout Forum!
[07:15] <hunahpu> frankie_: both are great, Mint is based on Ubuntu :)
[07:15] <FloodBot4> Resbaloso: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:16] <RP64> LOL @ resbaloso racist comment
[07:16] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, 3.5.9
[07:16] <RP64> pls ban
[07:16] <DeM0nFiRe> tbh with you, I tried giving people who didn't have windows to install Ubuntu instead, and they didn't like it
[07:16] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: OK, so which flash are you using?
[07:16] <deserteagle> 10.0.45.2
[07:16] <deserteagle> iirc
[07:17] <deserteagle> yeah, that
[07:17] <frankie_> i will download the live cd of linux mint and try ubuntu too. i am on a laptop and not much to lose
[07:17] <hunahpu> RP64: that kind of comments are usually the result of fear, I actually feel sorry for guys like that one who can't control it :)
[07:17] <crucialhoax> The latest I think. Did you download libflashplayer.so or did you use the one in the repos?
[07:17] <psypher246> hello, could anyone please assist me with evolution, i am unable to connect to exchange since things were changed
[07:17] <theadmin> frankie_: Be prepared, however, to use the terminal now and then
[07:17] <deserteagle> umm... I installed from Adobe's site?
[07:17] <hunahpu> frankie_: read this website, it will anser a lot of your questions: http://www.getlinux.org
[07:17] <RP64> hunahpu: lol
[07:17] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: That might be why, does flash work anywhere?
[07:17] <deserteagle> yup yup
[07:18] <crucialhoax> hmmph
[07:18] <hunahpu> frankie_: my bad, it is http://www.getgnulinux.org
[07:18] <frankie_> that is the only thing i am scared of. i see linux users type in their terminal and i do not know how to use :/
[07:18] <theadmin> frankie_: We can help
[07:18] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: 32bit or 64?
[07:18] <DeM0nFiRe> frankie you should get a live CD of Ubuntu and try that out first. That way you can try to get used to it without breaking it
[07:18] <deserteagle> 32
[07:19] <deserteagle> this guy won't show: http://macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
[07:19]  * Daemonic is getting pissed off at ATI and their CRAP drivers
[07:19] <hunahpu> frankie_: don't worry about, almost all tasks can be done in the graphic interfase, but I can asure you, after a couple of months you'll be prefering the terminal :) and as theadmin said, we will be here to (try to) help you
[07:19] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: Better than having a crap card :D
[07:19] <frankie_> thank you, you are very helpful people :)
[07:20] <theadmin> frankie_: Just don't be afraid when you see something like id |sed "s/^[^(]*(\([^)]*\)).*/\1/"
[07:20] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: the card is good. works perfectly in windows. I can't get shit for performance out of it in linux though.
[07:20] <Daemonic> this is seriously annoying.
[07:20] <Daemonic> wtf?
[07:20] <FloodBot4> Daemonic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:20] <DeM0nFiRe> Really?
[07:20] <DeM0nFiRe> 3 lines is flodding?
[07:20] <Daemonic> apparently so
[07:20] <bazhang> DeM0nFiRe, watch the language please
[07:20] <theadmin> DeM0nFiRe: It's a stupid bot and it's lagging sometimes
[07:20] <DeM0nFiRe> bazhang: what?
[07:21] <theadmin> DeM0nFiRe: He reffers to "wtf" you used
[07:21] <DeM0nFiRe> I didn't
[07:21] <hunahpu> DeM0nFiRe: some people actually don't like the "wtf" acronym :p
[07:21] <DeM0nFiRe> I didn't use wtf lol
[07:21] <theadmin> DeM0nFiRe: Oops it was Daemonic
[07:21] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: go here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[07:21] <hunahpu> DeM0nFiRe: it was Daemonic... similar names, excuse the person who said it :p
[07:21] <Daemonic> hmm
[07:22] <hunahpu> and me of course
[07:22] <Daemonic> this is another wtf moment
[07:22] <bazhang> DeM0nFiRe, my apologies, mistabbed
[07:22] <DeM0nFiRe> lol
[07:22] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: towards the bottom you will see `download plugin for Linux (TAR.GZ)`
[07:22] <DeM0nFiRe> Anyway
[07:22] <Guest1492> exit
[07:22] <Sinister> i just changed my mouse both cordless but now when i highlight it dont paste when i press the wheel anyone know why ?
[07:22] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: I think the catalys 9.10 drivers work with ubuntu 9.10
[07:22] <hunahpu> I actually remember an admin on other server banning someone for saying "ftw", the admin thought it was a way to circumvent the "wtf" rule...
[07:22] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: the drivers installed fine. I just can't figure out why they're not operating as expected.
[07:22] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, but it was working before :(
[07:22] <DeM0nFiRe> I am not sure because I haven't tried the, but I;ve seen good reviews
[07:23] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, you really think i need to compile it? :(
[07:23] <Daemonic> for the wine?
[07:23] <Daemonic> win*
[07:23] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: Idk then, it is not compiling it...
[07:23] <frankie_> i think i have a 64 bit computer should i install 64 bit or 32 bit versions? i only have 4gbs of ram so is it nesscessary to use 64 bit one?
[07:23] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: I think you also have to disable some other stuff because Linux by default tries to manage some settings
[07:23] <DeM0nFiRe> Not positive though
[07:23] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: The version from the link given, that is the only thing I use and have never had flash problems.
[07:23] <hiexpo> frankie_,  - i suggest 32 bit
[07:23] <hunahpu> Daemonic: yes, the admin clearly didn't know, all in the room told him but he wouldn't listen, was a very... kinda-funny moment
[07:23] <Daemonic> sure its only a 4670 but it has a gig of ram and works good in windows.
[07:23] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, kk, i'll give it a try
[07:24] <theadmin> hunahpu: That's not funny, it's sad. Very sad.
[07:24] <Daemonic> just isn't for crap in X
[07:24] <hunahpu> Daemonic: that's how I learned it's better to use plain-straight english; theadmin actually kinda lame too
[07:24] <laymansnerd> i was wondering how to mount and start a raid array that i created using palimpset in fedora through terminal
[07:24] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: can I ask why you need high performance in linux?
[07:24] <DeM0nFiRe> For video drivers?
[07:24] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: You will have to remove your old one. The old one might be in Synaptic Package Manager, or it will be in /home/<username>/.mozilla/plugins
[07:25] <laymansnerd> i tried mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 and it returned with "mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md0"
[07:25] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: The name of the file is libflashplayer.so, that is what you are downloading, remove the old one and put the new in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[07:25] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: because less than 30fps with this card in OGL is unacceptable?
[07:25] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, awesome! here I was thinking I needed to compile it or something
[07:25] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: Na, lol. Definitely not :)
[07:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: But why not use Windows for games instead? WHy not dual boot?
[07:26] <deserteagle> yeh, it's not like Adobe would ever release their code, either
[07:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Just curious
[07:26] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: HTML5 ftw
[07:26] <frankie_> i find http://www.getgnulinux.org/ very informative thank you
[07:26] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: I don't like windows...but I dislike non-working hardware too
[07:27] <Daemonic> nvidia cards work fine. ATI's should too.. stupid AMD/ATI and their crap drivers.
[07:27] <hunahpu> Daemonic: sadly ATI's Linux support is not very good, you won't get the same performance in certain tasks (like open gl) as in windows; if you are hardcore gamming person, you probably want to dual boot w/windows
[07:27] <DeM0nFiRe> Well, lately that appears to be the one thing NVidia has going for them, linux support XD
[07:28] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: I asked because I am trying to decide fi I should make my engine work in Linux
[07:28] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe:  the one good thing? you mean other than nvidia cards kicking ati cards's ass?
[07:28] <hunahpu> Honestly I regret having bought this ATI card I'm using (is a 9600) is not THAT old and it's already unsupported by ATI
[07:28] <crucialhoax> which is an amazing thing. more and more games are being played with Linux and working drivers make it pretty :)
[07:29] <psypher246> FYI if anyone has any issues with connecting evolution to exchange 2007 install evolution-mapi and create a new account using that as your mailbox type, cannot use owa anymore
[07:29] <Daemonic> well, I'm trying to run a four year old game in wine and I'm getting less than 20 fps.. which is unacceptable.. I can enable my motherboards onboard CRAP 7100 nvidia and play the same game with better fps. which brings it all back to ati drivers sucking ballsack.
[07:29] <crucialhoax> hunahpu: I am pretty sure I have the same card and ATi does not support it in Win7 either, I did not know they fully dropped it...
[07:29] <jnuetron> HI
[07:29] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: ATI cards are faster than all of NVidia cards except for their 2 newest, which are at the price point of the 5970, which is better than either
[07:30] <DeM0nFiRe> ATI's been quite solidly on top for the last 2 generations, at least in the mainstream gaming market, which is what the target is, of course
[07:30] <hunahpu> crucialhoax: I know, it's sad, a lot of cards are no longer supported :(
[07:30] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: so you're an ATI fanboy? I prefer hardware that just /works/. nvidia in my experience are just /better/. I regret buying this ATI
[07:30] <jnuetron> HOW TO FLASH PLEYER INSTALL FOR UBUNTU
[07:30] <DeM0nFiRe> Nah, my last card was NVidia
[07:30] <crucialhoax> !caps > jnuetron
[07:30] <DeM0nFiRe> I go with what is currently on top
[07:30] <crucialhoax> jnuetron: 32bit or 64bit?
[07:30] <DeM0nFiRe> ATI's in a position to cripple NVidia's sales if they want
[07:30] <hunahpu> DeM0nFiRe: ATI hardware might be better but Nvidia's software is far more advanced and they actually support their products
[07:30] <jnuetron> HOW YO PRIVET MESSEGE
[07:30] <Daemonic> when its upgrade time, I don't give a shit if ATI is mopping the floor with nvidia, I'm buying nvidia. ugh. sour taste.
[07:31] <DeM0nFiRe> human_blip: on Windows, ATI's great so far for me
[07:31] <DeM0nFiRe> But yes, NVidia has better linux support
[07:31] <Daemonic> yeah, even the catalyst drivers in windows suck.
[07:31] <Daemonic> lol
[07:31] <Daemonic> I'm going to craigslist this POS and get an nvidia
[07:31] <DeM0nFiRe> Took ATI like a week and a half to have the beta OGL 4 driver for Windows after OGL 4 was released :D
[07:31] <hunahpu> jnuetron: Hi, don't use CAPS they mean you're yelling and that is considered rude; why don't you act like a civilized person, calm down, type your question in one single line and wait for your answer? You'll get better results that way.
[07:32] <crucialhoax> hah
[07:32] <hexdump_> jnuetron just use /msg nick
[07:32] <hexdump_> or isn't it /privmsg nick ?
[07:32] <frankie_> is there a website for finding if my windwos programs work on linux when i switch? foobar and utorrent ?
[07:33] <crucialhoax> frankie_: utorrent will run in wine.
[07:33] <hexdump_> either way
[07:33] <Daemonic> /msg <nickname> <message>
[07:33] <igoryonya> hello, what's the program in ubuntu to defragment?
[07:33] <crucialhoax> frankie_: Deluge or Vuze are nice uTorrent replacements.
[07:33] <crucialhoax> igoryonya: Ubuntu does not need to be defragged.
[07:33] <hunahpu> frankie_: most programs won't run the same way; it's far better to use their analog linux applications; like openoffice.org instead of MS Office; if games is what concerns you, they don't run as fast as in windows, there are emulators like Wine that will allow you to run -some- win apps.
[07:34] <igoryonya> crucialhoax: well, that may be, but I need to defragment my flash drive.
[07:34] <hunahpu> igoryonya: Native Linux filesystems don't need to be defragged (ext3, xfs, ext4, etc...)
[07:34] <crucialhoax> igoryonya: Need to be more specific then.
[07:34] <shazbotmcnasty> how do I show the name of my ethernet card?
[07:35] <shazbotmcnasty> cat /proc/???
[07:35] <hunahpu> shazbotmcnasty: cat /proc may work but also "lspci" may work
[07:35] <frankie_> i dont plan on playing games. i have another computer with windows, so i am just goign to use my laptop to get my toes wet so to speak
[07:35] <igoryonya> hunahpu, I didn't know that they didn't need to be defragged
[07:35] <DeM0nFiRe> Anywya, I gotta go
[07:35] <tripelb> Daemonic, nothing is motorola (after that ROKR phone I am done with them) mneptok yes PC'ed it. as I said. -- Daemonic but it gives an ip fine any time to this computer (I call it #2) but not to #3 or #1. Huh?
[07:35] <DeM0nFiRe> Later guys
[07:35] <genii> shazbotmcnasty: The manufacturers name, or the device name which it gets assigned?
[07:35] <shazbotmcnasty> both hopefully
[07:36] <hexdump_> shazbotmcnasty:  you could do lspci
[07:36] <igoryonya> crucialhoax, hunahpu, ok, to be more specific, I have a fat32 usb flash drive that I need to defrag.
[07:36] <hunahpu> igoryonya: yes, they are quite efficient, read about it in wikipedia, the english article is quite good; as for your flash drive, I'm not sure if there is a defragger for vfat
[07:36] <hexdump_> shazbotmcnasty:   or if it's a usb lsusb
[07:36] <Daemonic> tripelb: no idea then. sorry.
[07:36] <shazbotmcnasty> it's not, it's onboard
[07:36] <tripelb> mneptok, Daemonic I think it is time to sleep and restart another day. Thanks for playing.
[07:36] <alabd> how to make php.ini file changes takes affect ?
[07:36] <tripelb> lol
[07:36] <frankie_> my main programs are thunderbird, firefox, foobar, utorrent, office.. deluge from appearnce looks good replacement for utorrent and i am familiar with openoffice :)
[07:37] <Fiend> hi, I have a problem with Ubutu, is there someone here that can help me with some technical support?
[07:37] <hunahpu> shazbotmcnasty: "lspci | grep net" should work
[07:37] <hexdump_> shazbotmcnasty:  well try lspci
[07:37] <hunahpu> !ask | Fiend
[07:37] <igoryonya> does anybody know, what's the difference between ext3 and ext4?
[07:37] <genii> shazbotmcnasty: For all info on them: sudo lshw -C network
[07:38] <hexdump_> or what huanahpu said pretty much to narrow it
[07:38] <hunahpu> igoryonya: the main difference is ext4 can handle far larger files and larger hard drives
[07:38] <psypher246> ah man this is frustrating, now i don't have gal access anymore in evolution, please can some help, aparently the owa plugin for evolution i supposed to work with exchange 2007
[07:38] <psypher246> and the mapi plugin is still unstable and does not support gal or calendar
[07:38] <psypher246> <aaarg
[07:39] <igoryonya> what about crashing, is ext4 a more crashprone then ext3, or they don't differ in that way. For example, I know that ntfs is more crashprone then fat32.
[07:39] <Fiend> I'm having problem with Ubuntu on my laptop pc. The problem is that it's overheating after some random time (like starting with 15 min ) and the coolers don't seem to work. Does ubuntu have problem with coolers on various hardware?
[07:39] <Fiend> The area around the touchpad seems to be overheating more than other parts of it
[07:40] <hunahpu> igoryonya: ext4 offers better performance, is overall better than ext3, both speed and stability wise
[07:41] <hunahpu> igoryonya: if stability is your top priority, xfs is a better filesystem.
[07:41] <Fiend> anybody have any clue about the laptops overheating problem?
[07:41] <hunahpu> Fiend: you didn't have this heating problem before?
[07:42] <Fiend> well, I haven't tries ubuntu until 9.10, so I can't tell you about that
[07:42] <hunahpu> Fiend: does this happen with other OS's?
[07:43] <Fiend> well, it doesn't happen on windows 7 and it appears that the coolers start working during windows 7 usage, but the overall temperature is lower
[07:43] <Fiend> the area around the touchpad isn't that hot, compared to ubuntu
[07:43] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, still nothing :(
[07:43] <LSD|Ninja> Fiend: what sort of laptop is it?
[07:44] <Fiend> sec, I'll send you a link with the specs in a few
[07:44] <cfedde> Fiend: can you tell if the fans are running at all?
[07:44] <S4aD> hey
[07:45] <igoryonya> the reason, I am asking, is because, I've read that ubuntu 9.10 officially moved to ext4 from ext3, but in the description, it says that upgraded systems to 9.10 will be converted to ext4, and newly installed systems will be installed, using ext4, but an upgraded ext4 will not take advantage of ext4 features and not work as efficiently as newly installed 9.10. I don't get it. How is it going...
[07:45] <igoryonya> ...to be converted to ext4, yet not take ext4's advantage.
[07:45] <cfedde> igoryonya: it's not.
[07:45] <cfedde> igoryonya: upgraded systems will continure to use ext3
[07:45] <igoryonya> cfedde: it's not what?
[07:45] <cfedde> continue even.
[07:46] <igoryonya> cfedde: so I misunderstood what was written and only newly installed will be ext4?
[07:46] <cfedde> igoryonya: the upgrade to 9.10 does not change the filesystem that is used.
[07:47] <cfedde> igoryonya: exactly.  only new installs will use ext4 by default.
[07:47] <hunahpu> igoryonya: I have no idea how a filesystem can be 'upgraded' that way ??? it should keep your original filesystem
[07:47] <Fiend> http://www.notebooksarok.hu/notebook/toshiba/satellite-a300-1n0/1728 this isn't in english, but you get the general ideea
[07:47] <bluebird> hi there
[07:47] <conex> hello
[07:47] <conex> hola
[07:47] <hunahpu> igoryonya: when you make a new fresh install you can choose what filesystem to use; bye default it will use ext4, but you can use whatever you want
[07:47] <bluebird> any body know this bug - pam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]
[07:48] <bluebird> ?
[07:48] <hunahpu> bluebird: it means you typed the wrong password
[07:48] <jnuetron> HELLO
[07:48] <bluebird> but password is correct
[07:48] <hunahpu> bluebird: the user may be incorrect then
[07:48] <bluebird> policykit is broken
[07:49] <Fiend>  cfedde : the fans don't seem to be running after ubuntu starts
[07:49] <igoryonya> hunahpu: different partitioning programs are able to convert partitions and windows xp, for example, offers to convert a fat/fat32 partitions to ntfs, while upgrading, so I didn't even have a back thought that linix cannot do that.
[07:49] <Fiend> http://www.notebooksarok.hu/notebook/toshiba/satellite-a300-1n0/1728 this isn't in english, but you get the general ideea
[07:49] <bluebird> when i use sudo or gksudo this password works fine
[07:50] <hunahpu> igoryonya: "upgrading" is not accurate; what you (and probably that software does) do is dump (create an image) a filesystem, back it up somewhere else, format the partition to another filesystem and then write the image to the new filesystem
[07:50] <jnuetron> HI
[07:50] <Someguy77> is Beryl just a Compiz alternative?
[07:50] <jnuetron> HI
[07:50] <kolla> please... how do I get rid of those darn tamtam-drums whenever firefox pops up a requester!
[07:50] <jnuetron> HK
[07:50] <MegaTrousers> New Ubuntu game in the works. "Cerebral" science fiction oriented. Website: https://www.avaneya.com
[07:50] <hunahpu> Someguy77: Beryl is now integrated with compiz and fuzion
[07:51] <igoryonya> hunahpu: so, you are suggesting, that I choose xfs, skipping ext[x] completley when I install, if I want a filesystem crash stability?
[07:51] <Someguy77> and metacity integrated with gnome?
[07:51] <Someguy77> I mean GTK
[07:51] <cfedde> Fiend: here are some google hits that look interesting: http://www.symbiosoft.net/?q=node/66
[07:52] <Jordan_U> igoryonya: Actually upgrading from ext2 to 3 and 3 to 4, and even extn to btrfs (a *completely* different filesystem) can all be done in place.
[07:52] <hunahpu> igoryonya: xfs is (in my opinion) the most stable filesystem out there, but this doesn't mean is the right one for you, it's slower than ext4 and not entirely recommended with GRUB loader (use of LiLO is recommended)
[07:52] <igoryonya> hunahpu: you are probably wright, I just didn't know the internal workings of it, and you've explained it :)
[07:53] <lnostdal> 2010: boot partition is full ..   didn't debra and/or ian figure out some way to automate this stuff around 1994?
[07:53] <cfedde> Fiend: and another maybe more usefull link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/321578
[07:53] <kolla> nobony knows? those drums are driving me nuts
[07:53] <hunahpu> kolla: somewhere in sound preferences should have the option; I usually just kill all those sounds
[07:53] <bluebird> any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter correct su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]???
[07:54] <jnuetron> SS
[07:55] <theadmin> I assume our repositories have Kompozer?
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> theadmin: yes
[07:56] <theadmin> tonyyarusso: ty, found it :D
[07:56] <theadmin> all those -data packages are confusing XD
[07:56] <Jordan_U> hunahpu: grub2 works fine with xfs btw, the xfs problems were only with old versions of grub legacy.
[07:56] <Shafiei> how to config pptp in text mode?
[07:57] <hunahpu> Jordan_U: hey, great to know :) thanks
[07:57] <theadmin> Shafiei: pptpsetup
[07:57] <Jordan_U> hunahpu: You're welcome.
[07:57] <theadmin> Never managed to get it working right with that though, but it's the right tool AFAIAA
[07:58] <Fiend> thanks cfedde, I'll take a look and let you know how it turns up
[07:59] <cfedde> Fiend: another link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1333321
[07:59] <Fiend> by the way, is Lucid going to get any type of ati 3d drivers at launch?
[07:59] <theadmin> are sites like ubuntu.jp, ubuntu.fi, ubuntu.ru official?
[07:59] <kolla> hunahpu: I thought I did that... I'm running kde for the most part, this is the gnome settings somewhere I presume
[07:59] <igoryonya> hunahpu: I see, I just lately started getting (on boot) when the filesystem is checked during boot, it stops the check at a certain point and says that it cannot fsck automatically and I should do it manually, I do it manually and answer yes everywhere, but after boot, I would like to launch the fsck again, but it warns that doing fsck on a mounted system can damage data, but I can't figure...
[07:59] <theadmin> ubottu: 10.04 | Fiend (Sorry, i know only 8 days left :/)
[07:59] <igoryonya> ...out how to do it on unmounted system
[07:59] <hunahpu> Fiend: the open ATI driver is not that bad, it works fine for regular use
[07:59] <Someguy77> does lucid have out of the box full Nvidia Geforce 3d support?
[07:59] <bluebird> sorry for repeating -  any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter correct su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - pam_unix(polkit:auth): conversation failed  authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]???
[08:00] <theadmin> Someguy77: ^^\
[08:00] <hiexpo> !lucid
[08:00] <Fiend> hunahpu: TBH I don't really need the 3d drivers, I just want to run movies and virtual box in a normal fashion
[08:00] <Fiend> sorry about the caps
[08:00] <igoryonya> Jordan_U: so there is a command that will allow me to convert a filesystem, or do I have to separately install a certain package to do it and can you suggest any?
[08:00] <Fiend> I need virtual box for iTunes usage
[08:00] <hunahpu> igoryonya: well if you are still talking about your usb flash drive, just unmount it, if is your actual hard drive use the LiveCD to check the filesystem :)
[08:01] <Fiend> cfedde: last link is for nvidia
[08:01] <hunahpu> kolla: yes, it is on gnome, sound options; you can hack it though broswe /usr/share/ until you find the ubuntu sounds and rename them
[08:01] <theadmin> rofl kompozer made shortcuts in "Programming" AND in "Internet" :/
[08:02] <cfedde> Fiend: oops.  :-\
[08:02] <AbuMaia> can someone tell me the terminal command to use to determine the input hardware of my system?  I need to identify the trackpad in particular
[08:02] <kolla> hunahpu: ok :)
[08:02] <theadmin> AbuMaia: lspci | less - try this
[08:02] <cfedde> Fiend: this is interesting though: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420247
[08:02] <AbuMaia> ty
[08:02] <hunahpu> Fiend: the open drivers work fine, I'm using them and compiz works fine, I can play movies, etc... if the proprietary driver is available, go for it though, they do work better and should be available in Lucid (except the driver for old ati cards)
[08:02] <Jordan_U> igoryonya: Unfortunately currently you can only in place convert from one ext version to a later one and then to btrfs. For converting to xfs you have to make a copy like hunahpu explained.
[08:03] <igoryonya> hunahpu: no, my main filesystem "/" is having a such problem, that I need to check and fix, but I couldn't find any info on how to check and fix unmounted "/" system, my usb I only need to defrag.
[08:03] <Fiend> hunahpu: last time I tried the ati official drivers, I ended up with a broken X
[08:03] <Fiend> just a black screen, after restart
[08:04] <hunahpu> igoryonya: using the LiveCD is the easier way to do it.
[08:04] <kolla> hunahpu: looking in gnome-control-center -> sound preferences, I have picked "No sounds" as theme
[08:04] <igoryonya> Jordan_U: can you suggest a command that I can use to convert one ext version to an other?
[08:04] <kolla> maybe the settings are in firefox itself
[08:04] <hunahpu> kolla: that's posible
[08:05] <igoryonya> hunahpu: so you are saying to use disk checking utilities from the cd booting?
[08:05] <kolla> hunahpu: thanks anyways :)
[08:06] <hunahpu> igoryonya: from the Live session actually
[08:06] <Jordan_U> igoryonya: You basically just mount it as the newer version. So to convert from ext3 to ext4 you just mount /dev/sdXX -t ext4 and any data from then on will use ext4 features.
[08:07] <Fiend>  hunahpu: any ideea is this fan issue is going to be happening on 10.04?
[08:07] <Fiend> I mean, I was thinking that maybe this issue might not occurs anymore in 10.04..here's hoping
[08:08] <Fiend> seing as 10.04 is LTS
[08:08] <igoryonya> Jordan_U: ok, thanx
[08:08] <Jordan_U> igoryonya: You're welcome.
[08:08] <hunahpu> Fiend: I have no idea, actually I'm not completely sure it is an actual 'issue'; I lost track of your thread for a while here, but if it is indeed an issue you may want to bug-report it
[08:10] <Fiend> hunahpu: cool, thanks man, I'll keep that in mind (still hoping that 10.04 will solve the problem by default though :) )
[08:10] <Fiend> As I've read in the links above, the problems seems to be with Toshiba laptops, in general
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:11] <cfedde> Fiend: you saw this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420247
[08:11] <cfedde> apt-cache search toshset
[08:11] <cfedde> toshset - Access much of the Toshiba laptop hardware interface
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> !info toshset
[08:13] <Fiend> niice!
[08:14] <mickster04> how do i get remaining freespace on ubuntu thru terminal?
[08:15] <mickster04> hdd
[08:15] <Guest29090> mickster04: df
[08:15] <cfedde> mickster04: df -h maybe?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Mickster04: df -h
[08:15] <mickster04> cheers:D
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Mickster04: you may want to turn off your bot so it doesn't spam the channel like that
[08:16] <bluebird> sorry for repeating -  does any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter CORRECT su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - pam_unix(polkit:auth): conversation failed  authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]???
[08:16] <mickster04> ActionParsnip: ?
[08:17] <mickster04> ActionParsnip: what spamming, i didnt see owt?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Mickster04: you seemed to autoreply with something about being asleep at uni...
[08:17] <mickster04> ActionParsnip: ooo, sorry, i had my away message set:/
[08:17] <mickster04> am off now anyways:D
[08:17] <mickster04> bbl:D
[08:17] <cfedde> cheers
[08:20] <Ven]n> Ive disabled the keyring manager, but when booting I get the popup "Authentication required by wireless network" where the password field is already filled in. How can I make it automatically connect instead of showing me that popup for me to click Connect?
[08:22] <Shafiei> ive registered in a room, i used to send IMs into it, but now i cannot
[08:22] <joaopinto> Ven]n, the gnome keyring can't be disabled, you can prevent it from asking the master password by setting it to the login password value
[08:22] <Shafiei> how can i use it again?
[08:22] <joaopinto> assuming you don't use autologin
[08:22] <LordV> how can I adjust my inputrc so that Alt-A sends Meta-A and not A' with an accent?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Joaopinto: or having no password (not advisable)
[08:23] <cbilljones> i have a strange issue, zotac board, nvidia ion chipset; 52' aquos TV kept losing signal, oddly worked flawlessly in XMBC, user just phoned me, seems to have fixed issue by setting icon size in nautiles to 50%, im rather confused but it seems to have fixed it; make any sense to anyone?
[08:23] <hunahpu> Shafiei: many irc channels have this "voice" option, maybe an admin took it from you
[08:23] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, can you set gnome keyring to not have a password :) ?
[08:23] <Shafiei> hunahpu: no theres nothing named voice in it
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Joaopinto: yes and it'l say its a bad idea but it can be set as nothing
[08:24] <Shafiei> hunahpu: its just registeration stuff
[08:24] <joaopinto> hum, let me test
[08:24] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: i was talking to you earlier, did you see my post?
[08:24] <Shafiei> hunahpu: ive registered in it, and i guess i have to log in it in order to use
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Cbilijones: yeah, weird
[08:25] <jdmulti> hello :D
[08:25] <hunahpu> Shafiei: if it is in freenode.org, type "/msg nickserv identify <yourpassword>"
[08:25] <muffin2> Hello
[08:25] <Exposure548> morning everybody
[08:25] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: ya, oddly it did seem to be nautlis that gave me issues, ill have to go over tomorrow and try to figure out why his work around is working :|
[08:26] <theadmin> freenode.org? isn't it freenode.net?
[08:26] <theadmin> hunahpu: ^
[08:26] <Exposure548> theadmin: it is freenode.net :)
[08:26] <Ven]n> joakim, im using autologin and set master password to blank so it wont pop up
[08:26] <Shafiei> hunahpu: um! i did but something like this appeared: >NickServ< id pass
[08:27] <hunahpu> theadmin: is it? I usually type .org? now I'm confused
[08:27] <theadmin> hunahpu: Well dunno %)
[08:27] <Exposure548> hunahpu: ok maybe they have all tld domains as aliases :)
[08:28] <theadmin> Long live tab autocompletion! If not the people with long and weird nicks, we'd probably not have it.
[08:28] <Shafiei> hunahpu: i mean i still cant send IMs in the room
[08:28] <hunahpu> Exposure548: they have!
[08:28] <Exposure548> i've got a question, what livecd iso image will boot on macbook pro?
[08:28] <igoryonya> how do I make an alias permanenet between reboots.
[08:28] <igoryonya> I do: alias -p command='definition'
[08:28] <igoryonya> It works until I reboot, after I reboot that alias doesn't work any more.
[08:29] <Exposure548> hunahpu: ok, good to know ;-)
[08:29] <roccity_> Exposure548, isn't that using the intel chip?
[08:29] <theadmin> Exposure548: Yeah, freenode.org redirects to freenode.net and... and... O_O what the? CANONICAL LOGO? O_O
[08:29] <Exposure548> roccity_: yes core2duo but no BIOS, they have EFI
[08:29] <Shafiei> hunahpu: no idea?
[08:29] <jdmulti> quick question: I got a windows pc which doesn't start windows7, but I want to acces some really important documents.
[08:29] <Exposure548> roccity_: i tried the latest beta2 of ubuntu and it didn't boot at all
[08:29] <jdmulti> can I just use the live cd, get the document and put on usb to load on a windows machine?
[08:30] <theadmin> jdmulti: How is that even remotely related to Ubuntu? You can use the livecd allright
[08:30] <hunahpu> Shafiei: each channel have their own policies; what I told you is the standard method to identify (log in), you may want to contact the channel admins
[08:30] <roccity_> Exposure548, 64 bit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[08:30] <jdmulti> theadmin: yeah I know, but my GF doesn't know much about pc and is on the otherside of the world
[08:30] <jdmulti> she knows how to burn a cd
[08:30] <diggy> does somebody know is the feisty(7.04) repo's still available somewhere?
[08:30] <Exposure548> roccity_: ok will check that, thanks!
[08:31] <jdmulti> so she can just use the live cd and get some files on usb to load on another OS ?
[08:31] <jdmulti> os are the files put on the usb in the linux file system stuff?
[08:31] <roccity_> Exposure548, has list of macbookpro 1.1 to 5.5
[08:31] <LSD|Ninja> Just watch out, you run the risk of cooking Intel Macs by running Linux on them due to porr support for SMC vcore control
[08:31] <hunahpu> jdmulti: yes they can do that and it will work; they will be in (most likely) vfat filesystem while in the usb flash memory and then written back to ntfs or whatever win7 uses
[08:32] <Exposure548> roccity_: thanks! i have 5,1 and i hope this is for livecd as well, i don't want to remove snow leopard :)
[08:32] <roccity_> LSD|Ninja, is the intels in those so different from a pc one?
[08:32] <jdmulti> hunahpu: thanks, just wanted to know that for sure
[08:32] <hatem_> HI
[08:33] <jdmulti> I love ubuntu tbh, used it normally for my opensource stuff ;)
[08:33] <jdmulti> but awesome to use as receovery easely then ;)
[08:34] <igoryonya> I do: alias -p command='definition'
[08:34] <igoryonya> It works until I reboot, after I reboot that alias doesn't work any more. how do I make an alias permanenet between reboots?
[08:34] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: I would expect that they would at least shut off before the hadware was damaged, right?
[08:34] <LSD|Ninja> roccity_: The power management control is, yes. Intel Macs use a chip called teh SMC (System Management Controller or something iirc) to manage that sort of stuff. There's rudimentary support for it in Linux, but not for controlling the CPU vcore leading to the machines running too high a vcore for too long and ultimately dying due to accelerated electromigration
[08:34] <geirha> igoryonya: Put it in ~/.bashrc
[08:35] <geirha> igoryonya: Though, without the -p
[08:35] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: I'm sure there are safeguards for it in OS X (and even Windows, for the most part, using Apples driver in the Boot Camp kits), but to the best of my knowledge, it's still not fully supported in Linux
[08:36] <theadmin> What's a VPS? (sorry i know it's quite offtopic, but dunno where to ask)
[08:36] <igoryonya> geirha: ok, do you know what -p switch is for in alias command?, since I didn't find any description in alias --help and man alias, just an example alias -p etc='etc'
[08:36] <theadmin> igoryonya: What's the point in aliasing something to itself?
[08:36] <geirha> igoryonya: alias is a builtin command, so ''help alias''
[08:37] <hunahpu> theadmin: virtual private server?
[08:37] <theadmin> hunahpu: Seems to be it :D Thanks
[08:37] <kraut> what's the release date of ubuntu 10.04?
[08:37] <igoryonya> geirha: what do you mean?
[08:37] <theadmin> kraut: in 8 days, that is 29th april
[08:37] <kraut> thanks
[08:38] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: I haven't used my intel mac since the early days to mac support but at first there wasn't even fan controll *but* the firmware still controlled the fans properly itself and you could for instance use smcfancontroll in OSX to raise the fan speed to make your "notebooK" into a non steralizing "laptop" then reboot and since it was a firmware option it would stick in linux.
[08:38] <geirha> igoryonya: If it's a builtin command, there's no man-page for it, you can use bash's help command to get some info about it, and you'll also find it in   man bash
[08:38] <Ven]n> meh.. i want to post a helping post on ubuntuforums.org but I dont want to sign up for an account
[08:38] <theadmin> Somehow, I'm not as crazy about Lucid as I were about Karmic. I was *literally* jumping around my room when it was released, and before the release I kept checking stuff... but now, after I see what they did in Karmic... meh. I dunno.
[08:39] <Ven]n> anyone with an account wanna do a post for me?
[08:39] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: It's not the fans, that are the issue. It's the control of voltage to the CPU. As CPU load goes up, the vcore is supposed to be dropped offsetting the heat output. The problem is that thge system that does that only works properly under OS X.
[08:39] <hunahpu> Ven]n: why not? it's free, easy and will take less time that it's taking you to type all this
[08:39] <cbilljones> ven]n: only takes a min to make acct :|
[08:39] <Ven]n> cause I wont be using it later
[08:39] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: Even with the fans going full tilt, the CPU is still being overvolted and eventually dies
[08:40] <theadmin> Say, can i use /etc/hosts to redirect something not to only a specific IP, but also to a specific port?
[08:40] <hunahpu> Ven]n: you never know... and even if you don't, it won't hurt you.
[08:40] <Ven]n> and it needs a valid email
[08:40] <theadmin> Ven]n: You don't have an email? o_O
[08:41] <igoryonya> geirha: ye, you are right, I've all I've found was in alias --help, I didn't even realize that I could use help alias, I did try man alias and it didn't return anything, thanx
[08:41] <Ven]n> sure I do :)
[08:41] <Ven]n> but Im reluctant to spread it to every site available
[08:41] <igoryonya> geirha: I mean before you guys told me about help alias
[08:41] <theadmin> Ven]n: If you're afraid of spam, use spambox.us to generate a temporary redirective email
[08:41] <hunahpu> theadmin: I haven't tried but I guess it should work; just add :<port> to your IP, you lose nothing by trying :p
[08:41] <Ven]n> theadmin, yeah, that would be another option
[08:41] <hunahpu> Ven]n: use yopmail.com and move on... is not that big of a deal
[08:42] <Ven]n> but then having someone else post for me is better I think
[08:42] <geirha> igoryonya: just ''help'' by itself will show you a list of what you can get help with; more or less all builtins and keywords of the shell.
[08:42] <exalt> hello can i convert .pages 2 .doc inubuntu?
[08:42] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: Depending on how you look at it, it's either poor design or the inevitable result of using them in a manner they were never designed/intended for. I must admit I fall into the latter category, Apple don't design them around running anything more than  OS X, which they're perfectly free to do. If you buy a Mac with the idea of running something other than OS X then the consequences of that are entirely you're own problem. That sa
[08:43] <igoryonya> theadmin, what do you mean?
[08:43] <hunahpu> exalt: check openoffice.org and see if .pages can be read by it; is what ubuntu uses by default
[08:43] <dariusvw> Greetigns, could anyone point me @ a "HOW TO" to connect my ubuntu pc to the internet through a router, no proxy involved
[08:43] <theadmin> igoryonya: Sorry to noisy here, what do you reffer to?
[08:44] <hunahpu> dariusvw: search for "tunneling" and "vpn" in google, like: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-configure-ubuntu-fedora-linux-pptp-client.html
[08:44] <igoryonya> geirha: does built-in, mean that it's not some kind of a file, but built-in into a kernel?
[08:44] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: " It wasn't a big problem with the earlier Intel MacBooks, the CPUs in those were a bit tougher because the fgabbing tech was coarser. " Propably why it hasn't affected my old macbook pro. I used that thing as an always on server for over a year so it would probably be dead by now were it a newer model.
[08:44] <theadmin> I tried "208.93.220.163:2082 cpane.l" but it ain't workin'
[08:44] <geirha> igoryonya: Yes, though not built-in to the kernel, but the shell
[08:44] <dariusvw> Hunahpu - Thanks
[08:44] <igoryonya> theadmin>	{#ubuntu} igoryonya: What's the point in aliasing something to itself?
[08:45] <rocket16> May I know who is the operator of this channel?
[08:45] <igoryonya> geirha: ok, got it.
[08:45] <theadmin> igoryonya: You gave the following command: alias -p etc=etc
[08:45] <theadmin> ubottu: ops > rocket16
[08:45] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: Yeah, I think it's the unibodies getting hit hardest by this, but they all share the same SMC power management so it's not the best idea on any of them
[08:45] <igoryonya> theadmin: that was just an abstract example so I don't have to type out the whole command.
[08:45] <kraut> moin
[08:45] <igoryonya> theadmin: as I'
[08:46] <rocket16> !ops > rocket16
[08:46] <igoryonya> theadmin: as I've given an example earlier in chat
[08:46] <jpds> rocket16: hi.
[08:46] <igoryonya> theadmin: I mean the real example
[08:46] <geirha> igoryonya: I strongly recommend reading the guide and faq at http://mywiki.wooledge.org/
[08:46] <rocket16> jpds: Hello, :) Are you an Operator here?
[08:46] <theadmin> igoryonya: Allrigth i see
[08:46] <Gorlist> morning, bit of a odd question. installed 10.04 a few weeks ago and set my desktop backdrop to lovely close up of a big green leaf (which came with ubuntu) - since then its disappeared and disappeared from the list!
[08:46] <Gorlist> does anyone have a copy of it
[08:46] <jpds> rocket16: Yes.
[08:47] <theadmin> ubottu: 10.04 | Gorlist
[08:47] <bluebird> sorry for repeating -  does any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter CORRECT su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - pam_unix(polkit:auth): conversation failed  authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]???
[08:47] <Gorlist> ta
[08:48] <dariusvw> hunahpu - sorry, i'm not after a vpn. i have a ubuntu pc i just built up, if i set the ip info so that it sits behind my proxy i canget internet. but my proxy has many ports blocked. I am trying to set the PC up so it connects direct to the router for internet
[08:49] <exalt> biw
[08:50] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: Do you know if there is a launchpad bug report about this?
[08:50] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: No idea, but even if there is, there's not much Ubuntu, or the Linux community as a whole, can really do about it as it's the result of the SMC being closed.
[08:51] <Flannel> rocket16: Please don't evade bans, thanks.
[08:51] <theadmin> Flannel: Huh?
[08:52] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: A good deal of hardware that's supported by linux is only so through reverse engineering, and launchpad bug reports are also an easy way to follow issues like this.
[08:52] <Flannel> theadmin: If you're banned, getting around (evading) your ban is bad, and will get you into more trouble
[08:53] <theadmin> Flannel: I don't recall him being banned o_O
[08:53] <Andreony> sallll
[08:53] <Andreony> cineva roman
[08:53] <Andreony> ?
[08:53] <Andreony> ?
[08:53] <FloodBot4> Andreony: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:53] <Andreony> cineva roman ?
[08:54] <tdn> When will 10.04 be released? Is any date planned yet?
[08:54] <iceroot> tdn: #ubuntu+1
[08:54] <Andreony> the server run ???
[08:54] <rocket16> Flannel: Sorry, but my Pidgin just entered #ubuntu automatically, should I leave immidietely?
[08:54] <LSD|Ninja> tdn: 29th April, but consider waiting until October for 10.10
[08:55] <Andreony> cineva roman ?
[08:55] <hunahpu> Andreony: Nu putem vorbi româneşte aici. Du-te la #ubuntu-ro
[08:56] <Flannel> rocket16: That would make you stop ban evading, yes.
[08:57] <rocket16> Flannel: Ok, sighs, I did nothing wrong, but bazhang used his status wrongly to ban me. I just wanted to learn and contribute in the channel. I respect your direction, Flannel. But please, at least consider the fact that I was banned wrongly by that ill Operator bazhang (Who started Offtopic, and when warned, banned me).
[08:57] <Flannel> rocket16: That's for #ubuntu-ops, not here.
[08:58] <hunahpu> Flannel: well it's already in the forums......
[08:58] <rocket16> Flannel: Yes, I am there, and doing whatever I can. I just made a reply, to clear the misunderstanding. Thanks.
[08:59] <geekphreak> hi all
[09:00] <nsp> hello
[09:01] <riverside> Hi!
[09:01] <Gryllida> nsp, hi
[09:02] <exalt> how can i convert pdf2doc?
[09:02] <riverside> I have a shell problem,could anyone can help me?
[09:02] <XaS> riverside don't ask to ask, just ask.
[09:03] <riverside> suppose I have a file named filea
[09:03] <marcin_> lal
[09:03] <riverside> and I want to replace a word in line 3 column 3,
[09:03] <riverside> how?
[09:03] <riverside> can sed do this?
[09:04] <riverside> replace word in the explicit place?
[09:05] <ouyes> is there someone running 10.04 ?
[09:06] <Ven]n> ouyes, #ubuntu+1
[09:06] <ouyes> Ven]n, oo
[09:09] <dariusvw> with ubuntu why do i have to restart the PC to have network changes take effect?
[09:09] <iceroot> dariusvw: you dont need to restart
[09:10] <iceroot> dariusvw: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:10] <sasayins> how can i see other computer in my network(LAN)?
[09:10] <tasslehoff> When I call "start-stop-daemon --start" twice, it tries to start my stuff both times. I thought it should detect that it's already runninge from the pidfile created the first time. Any thoughts?
[09:10] <iceroot> dariusvw: there are only 2 reasons to restart a ubuntu-pc. kernel or glibc update
[09:10] <dariusvw> Iceroot - i did that, internet still would not work, i restared and it worked
[09:10] <theadmin> iceroot: glibc? why?
[09:10] <composter> guten morgen zusammen
[09:10] <sambuntu> Morning, I wanted to get some insight on the 32bit vs 64bit thing.  I've been using ubuntu32bit since Feisty, but never once have I ever tried the 64bit I do have a core2duo processor, for someone like me as a regular user, would it be better to go 64bit and I suppose applications in ubuntu-tweak etc for example all can compile and run in 64bit?
[09:11] <composter> kennt sich hier einer mit squid proxy aus??
[09:11] <theadmin> composter: Deutschen Support ist in #ubuntu-de
[09:11] <dariusvw> iceroot - no the networking restart
[09:11] <iceroot> theadmin: because other programs only use the new glibc after a restart, elsewhere they have the old in memory
[09:11] <theadmin> iceroot: I see
[09:11] <theadmin> sambuntu: Not all of them
[09:11] <iceroot> theadmin: the rest you can restart with /etc/init.d/ and so on but not the effects a glibc-update is bringing
[09:12] <theadmin> sambuntu: But many. Well, if you have <4GB RAM then it's quite pointless
[09:12] <iceroot> dariusvw: what have you changed? and where to edit the network?
[09:12] <sambuntu> theadmin, so you still recomend 32bit I take it.
[09:12] <theadmin> sambuntu: I don't recommend, that really depends on your hardware
[09:12] <sambuntu> lets assume my hardware is fine for 64bit...
[09:13] <theadmin> sambuntu: I mean, say, how much RAM you have? If you have less then 4 gigs it's pointless to run 64-bit
[09:13] <dariusvw> iceroot - changing ip settings so the pc will work through my proxy, with the GUI interface as i cannot get it to work direct to the router
[09:13] <iceroot> dariusvw: and where? /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:13] <sambuntu> theadmin, ok I see that point.
[09:14] <iceroot> dariusvw: ah sorry didnt read the gui-part
[09:14] <hunahpu> sambuntu: using 32-bit OS and apps in 64-bit machines is a waste of hardware, but many things that are available for 32-bits are not yet available in 64-bit, so be careful on what you use right now, make sure there are 64-bit versions
[09:15] <dariusvw> iceroot - i tried that route to get the router connected, but it would not work. if i use the GUI route i can get it to work through a proxy
[09:15] <sambuntu> hunahpu, so I suppose the best bet, is to install 64bit, install or try to install all the apps I need, if they install and work, then voila solved.
[09:15] <hunahpu> theadmin: I may be wrong but I think there are more advantages in running 64-bit apps than just recognizing more than 3,5GB of RAM :p
[09:15] <elric> Linux is capable of running most 32 bit applications with linux32 however...
[09:15] <sambuntu> and then i can benefit with some slight speed increases.
[09:16] <iceroot> dariusvw: maybe you can give a detailed description on the network and what you want to do in one line
[09:16] <iceroot> dariusvw: its hard to understand
[09:16] <hunahpu> sambuntu: yes, if you use "standard" "regular" stuff, you'll be fine; there are some 32-bits that can run in 64-bits OS's always double check
[09:16] <sambuntu> I appreciate some of the insight guys.  Seeing that most forum chats are for older versions of ubuntu hence some older hardware, I was just interested to maybe go LTS with the new version and just stick to 64bit, but at the end of the day I guess I have to try it first
[09:17] <dariusvw> iceroot - if i use the GUI it will not accep a gateway address, thats why i can only get it to work through the proxy. but my proxy has verry few open ports, which causes other problems. Which is why i tried to get it to work direct to the router.
[09:17] <iceroot> dariusvw: not accept mean you cant enter or it is not working?
[09:18] <hunahpu> sambuntu: my personal experience was really good when I switched to 64-bits, most apps run insanely fast, like sound conversion software, dvd creation, compiling, etc.
[09:19] <jiero> hi, all, i have a question about the pure text preview settings: I found as DPI increasing large portion of visible text in the thumbnails deducted, any body have suggestion to make the thumbnailer work better with high DPI?
[09:20] <sambuntu> hunahpu, I do some sound conversions and dvd creations at times, so at least I know when it comes to number crunching ill benefit from that
[09:20] <sambuntu> i guess the old flash issue has been mostly resolved
[09:20] <dariusvw> iceroot - in the GUI interface, for the network properties, under gateway - everytime i enter the gateway ip 196.*.*.* it returns to 0.0.0.0
[09:20] <sambuntu> and I just mainly use skype/pidgin and watch movies
[09:20] <hunahpu> sambuntu: not quite, you still have to manually install flash 64-bits
[09:20] <bp0> is there a panel applet or something that will allow disabling the screensave temporarily?
[09:20] <iceroot> dariusvw: and the gateway is in the same network as the ip?
[09:20] <iceroot> dariusvw: ip of the client
[09:20] <sambuntu> well I understand i have to do it manually, but I mean in general its all generally ok
[09:20] <hunahpu> bp0: I have a shell script to do that
[09:21] <jiero> hi, all, i have a question about the pure text preview settings: I found as DPI increasing, a large part of visible text in the thumbnails deducted, anybody have suggestions to make the thumbnailer work better with high DPI?
[09:21] <dariusvw> iceroot - yes
[09:21] <bp0> well that is something
[09:21] <bp0> where?
[09:21] <iceroot> dariusvw: with the same subnet
[09:21] <hunahpu> bp0: gimme a second I'll pastebin it for you
[09:22] <dariusvw> iceroot - IP 196.211.246.245 Gateway 196.211.246.241
[09:22] <hunahpu> bp0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419713/
[09:23] <dariusvw> iceroot - i am using .244 on this PC Win XP
[09:24] <dariusvw> hello
[09:24] <bp0> hunahpu, so .. what does this do
[09:24] <brianherman> hello darius
[09:24] <bp0> how do i turn it on again
[09:24] <dariusvw> :) sorry i thought my internet had died there
[09:25] <hunahpu> bp0: it kills the screensaver as long as the terminal where you invoke it is active
[09:25] <bp0> hmm
[09:25] <bp0> alright
[09:25] <bp0> thanks, better to have some toggle in the panel or something, i think
[09:25] <hunahpu> bp0: by closing the terminal or pressing "Ctrl+C", you can add cron, to kill it
[09:25] <sambuntu> well thanks, i think I will go ahead and reformat my desktop and install lucid 64bit on this and just see what happens :)
[09:26] <theadmin> sambuntu: Wait until it's released at least :/
[09:26] <theadmin> 8 days...
[09:26] <sambuntu> hehe
[09:26] <sambuntu> ok fine :)
[09:26] <sambuntu> I have been using lucid on my netbook
[09:26] <sambuntu> but 32bit
[09:26] <sambuntu> but i guess i should wait for my desktop at least
[09:26] <sambuntu> and do it right the first time.
[09:26] <Gryllida> sambuntu, lucid is #ubuntu+1
[09:27] <sambuntu> yea I know I was just adding that at the end...
[09:27] <iceroot> dariusvw: and you can ping that gateway from the client? also you can try this "sudo route add default 196.211.246.245"
[09:27] <iceroot> dariusvw: then the whole traffic is going to the gateway
[09:27] <sambuntu> and thanks again for everything, ill be sure to update you on any good news
[09:28] <theadmin> "update you"... we're not computers :/
[09:29] <dariusvw> iceroot: thanks i'll try that. No i did not try Pinging.  any recomendations on Vim vs Nano Vs Vi Vs another?
[09:29] <Gryllida> !vim
[09:31] <geekphreak> dariusvw: matter of choice i guess right?
[09:31] <theadmin> heh, funny that ubottu shows nano as the first CLI editor in the list
[09:32] <dariusvw> Geekphreak: problem is i am so new to linux/ubuntu i dont know what my choices are :)
[09:32] <geekphreak> theadmin: alpha sorted :p
[09:32] <theadmin> geekphreak: Oh... :D
[09:32] <iceroot> dariusvw: of course vim, the one and only editor (dont use vi, use vim)
[09:32] <theadmin> iceroot: uh, afaik "vi" is same as "vim" these days
[09:33] <iceroot> dariusvw: but maybe if you are new, use nano or if you want a gui use gedit (when needing root use gksudo gedit)
[09:33] <iceroot> theadmin: no
[09:33] <BigRedS_> It's normally a symlink to it, but vi does exist in distinction AFAIK
[09:33] <theadmin> iceroot: Yep... typing vi in the terminal launched vim
[09:33] <dariusvw> Iceroot: thanks i'll try them all out
[09:33] <iceroot> theadmin: vim.tiny
[09:33] <iceroot> theadmin: which vi  and then ls -l to that path will show vi -> vim.tiny
[09:34] <geekphreak> dariusvw: read about vi, powerfull but has learning curve to it
[09:34] <iceroot> theadmin: sudo apt-get install vim  will give you the real vim
[09:34] <theadmin> iceroot: ...sorry, i did not understand a single word of what you just said
[09:34] <LuckySMack> i installed ssmtp, but from what i have seen it only accepts one email to send from. is there a way i can configure two different emails to send from?
[09:34] <iceroot> theadmin: vi is a symlink to vim.tiny
[09:34] <theadmin> iceroot: oh
[09:34] <iceroot> theadmin: vim.tiny != the real vim
[09:35] <iceroot> theadmin: so vi != vim
[09:35] <theadmin> iceroot: I see. Well, I don't really use it, because never had enough... non-laziness to learn it
[09:35] <iceroot> theadmin: i dont know why ubuntu is not using the real vim but vim.tiny which is vi
[09:36] <iceroot> theadmin: imo vi cant use the arrow-keys
[09:36] <perhamlinux> hi everyone
[09:37] <geekphreak> perhamlinux: hello
[09:38] <ouyes> i am wondering how many personal users are running ubuntu right now in the world ?
[09:38] <Lazesharp> hi guys
[09:39] <Lazesharp> anyone know what the difference in the MP3 decoder provided by the ffmpeg and fluendo plugins are and which are preferable?
[09:39] <perhamlinux> ouyes: less than a million, but that's already very high imo
[09:39] <Lazesharp> I'm guessing the fluendo plugin is licensed more favourably
[09:40] <perhamlinux> Lazesharp: ffmpeg uses lame
[09:40] <ouyes> perhamlinux, somebody in the #ubuntu+1 tell me it is 12 million,
[09:40] <FireCrotch> ouyes: it's impossible to know how many people are using Ubuntu
[09:41] <perhamlinux> ouyes: I'm searching for a reliable source right now
[09:41] <FireCrotch> ouyes: There are some ways to estimate, but it's nowhere near the actual numbers
[09:41] <Lazesharp> perhamlinux: so what's the practical differences, from a user perspective?
[09:43] <perhamlinux> Lazesharp: hardly any difference. they both open the same kind of file with quite the same algorithm
[09:43] <Lazesharp> fair enough
[09:43] <perhamlinux> Lazesharp: haven't  ran a benchmark to see which one is faster, but I guess the difference would be minimal
[09:43] <Lazesharp> odd that 10.04 prompts to install both when you try to play an MP3 file, it should really ask you to choose
[09:45] <perhamlinux> Lazesharp: haven't tried 10.04 myself yet. I only use stable releases ;)
[09:45] <Lazesharp> fair enough, I figured 9 days away from release 10.04 must be fairly stable
[09:46] <perhamlinux> ouyes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Reception
[09:46]  * geekphreak on it, loving it (Lucid)
[09:46] <perhamlinux> Lazesharp: yes it should be. but then again, karmic works absolutely great for me!
[09:48] <jurcek> hellow! i have a problem. i can only execute firefox wuth sudo command, bacause the owner of /usr/bin/firefox is root root. how do i chane permission to username jurcek?
[09:48] <theadmin> jurcek: I think you... sudo chmod 777 /usr/bin/firefox
[09:49] <archbuclaw> theadmin, O:
[09:49] <theadmin> archbuclaw: ?
[09:49] <theadmin> or maybe 555. Yeah, that'd be better
[09:50] <archbuclaw> no need for w permissions on group / other
[09:50] <archbuclaw> 755 would be default.
[09:50] <archbuclaw> jurcek, also I would check the ownership of ~/.mozilla
[09:50] <jurcek> theadmin, doesn't help the user who can execute the firefox is still root
[09:51] <archbuclaw> jurcek, that is what it is supposed to be.
[09:51] <theadmin> jurcek: Uh, not only owner can execute the program
[09:51] <archbuclaw> you are looking at it at the wrong angle.
[09:52] <geekphreak> jurcek: do you actually get error message when you try to run firefox as normal user?
[09:52] <DryGrain> sudo chown -v jurcek /usr/bin/firefox
[09:52] <DryGrain> ?
[09:52] <archbuclaw> IMO - smells like not having ownership of ~/.mozilla, or another part of his home directyory
[09:53] <jurcek> geekphreak, i get this error. /home/jurcek/bin/firefox: line 3: /home/jurcek/firefox/firefox: No such file or directory
[09:53] <theadmin> DryGrain: You don't chown files in /usr/bin to someone except root :/
[09:53] <jurcek> /home/jurcek/bin/firefox: line 3: exec: /home/jurcek/firefox/firefox: cannot execute: No such file or directory
[09:53] <archbuclaw> this is why you never run GUI applications using sudo...
[09:53] <geekphreak> what is firefox doing in $OME?
[09:53] <DryGrain> :x
[09:53] <archbuclaw> jurcek, what happens when you run: cd /home/jurcek/firefox
[09:55] <iceroot> archbuclaw: jurcek you can use cd ~ to go to the home-directory, so it will be cd ~/firefox
[09:55] <jurcek> archbuclaw, i don't have this folder jurcek/firefox
[09:56] <geekphreak> jurcek: something aint right :p
[09:57]  * perhamlinux learned this just right now
[09:57] <jurcek> the permissin to .mozilla are drwx------ 3 jurcek jurcek 4096 2010-03-16 13:01 extensions
[09:57] <jurcek> drwx------ 3 jurcek jurcek 4096 2010-03-16 13:01 firefox
[09:58] <archbuclaw> jurcek, if you don't have the directory, then you've messed up the installation of whatever you did.
[09:58] <archbuclaw> jurcek, I take it you installed your own version?
[09:59] <jurcek> archbuclaw, i have firefox in this directories  /usr/bin/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /usr/share/firefox
[09:59] <jurcek> archbuclaw, i did sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:59] <Ken8521> jurcek, do you have hidden files available? (view menu) its /juricek/.firefox   not the . that makes it hidden
[09:59] <Ken8521> assuming youw ere looking in home
[09:59] <perhamlinux> jurcek: do a sudo apt-get remove firefox and then install it again with sudo aptitude install firefox
[10:00] <jurcek> Ken8521, i have .mozilla and i don't have .firefox
[10:00] <geekphreak> jurcek: did you also download firefox package to check for new version by any chance mate  from there site??
[10:00] <jurcek> geekphreak, you mean .deb packages ?
[10:00] <geekphreak> jurcek: .gz i mean
[10:00] <jdmulti> when I use Ubuntu Live CD, can I acces my Hard disks to copy paste data to usb?
[10:00] <jurcek> geekphreak, i don't like .gz files, i prefer .deb packages :D
[10:01] <perhamlinux> jdmulti:  yes, you need to mount them
[10:01] <geekphreak> jurcek:  ok good checking :)
[10:01] <jdmulti> how can I do that?
[10:01] <jdmulti> it won't auto mount them?
[10:01] <perhamlinux> jdmulti: in the places menu, you will see your hard disk partitions and your usb disk upon insertion
[10:02] <jurcek> perhamlinux, apt-get remove firefox and aptitude install firefox doesn't work
[10:02] <perhamlinux> jdmulti: click on each one, and copy your files just like in windows
[10:02] <jdmulti> aah ok, thanks, :D
[10:02] <perhamlinux> jdmulti: yw ;)
[10:03] <jdmulti> recovering some data from a laptop, original OS didn't start anymore and else my gf loses all data :/
[10:03] <jurcek> geekphreak, this is what i get if i ran firefox without sudo command http://paste.ubuntu.com/419727/
[10:03] <perhamlinux> jurcek: how about apt-get purge firefox? and what is the outputs?
[10:03] <jurcek> i also get this
[10:04] <geekphreak> jurcek:  can you open terminal for me?
[10:04] <perhamlinux> jdmulti: we'll be here if you wanted any further help
[10:04] <jdmulti> kk, probebly later today, at work now and afther gonna fix it, just wanted to knew a few things beforehand ;)
[10:04] <jurcek> geekphreak, i did sudo apt-get remove firefox and if i run command firefox i get the same error as http://paste.ubuntu.com/419727/
[10:04] <jdmulti> but thanks a lot :D
[10:04] <perhamlinux> !who | jdmulti
[10:05] <jdmulti> aah kk :P
[10:05] <perhamlinux> jdmulti:  ;)
[10:05] <jdmulti> perhamlinux: :D
[10:05] <geekphreak> jurcek: can you open terminal for me please?
[10:05] <jurcek> geekphreak, i am doing all the command from terminal
[10:06] <geekphreak> ok type this there >> /usr/bin/firefox
[10:06] <geekphreak> get same message?
[10:06] <jurcek> permission denied
[10:07] <archbuclaw> jurcek, the full message?
[10:07] <jurcek> archbuclaw, bash: /usr/bin/firefox: Permission denied
[10:09] <archbuclaw> jurcek, ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
[10:09] <archbuclaw> and possibly:  ls -l /usr/bin/firefox-3.5
[10:09] <LuckySMack> anyone familiar with setting up smtp to send mail from a google apps email? when trying to send i get the error: ssmtp: Authorization failed 454 4.7.0 Cannot authenticate due to temporary system problem. Try again later.  This is what i have in my config: http://pastebin.com/PjDXQuyN
[10:09] <jurcek> archbuclaw, nom such file or directory
[10:09] <LuckySMack> i mean setting up ssmtp, not smtp
[10:10] <jurcek> archbuclaw, for both firefox and firefox-3.5 no such file or directory
[10:10] <geekphreak> jurcek: you just got perm. denied man on firefox
[10:10] <jurcek> geekphreak, yes i know that, what now ?
[10:11] <archbuclaw> jurcek, file is probably missing then.
[10:11] <archbuclaw> dpkg -S /usr/bin/firefox
[10:11] <jurcek> archbuclaw, shoud i create this folder or what?
[10:12] <jurcek> archbuclaw, dpkg: /usr/bin/firefox not found.
[10:12] <archbuclaw> and there you go
[10:12] <jurcek> yes, i deleted firefox
[10:12] <archbuclaw> and replaced it?
[10:12] <jurcek> i will install it first
[10:12] <geekphreak> oh gawd lol
[10:13] <maX0> hey guys, anyone that could help me out with nonworking avidemux?
[10:13] <geekphreak> jurcek: this is ubuntu 9.10 right?
[10:13] <jurcek> geekphreak, ok, with dpkg -s command i get firefox: /usr/bin/firefox
[10:13] <jurcek> geekphreak, yes, it's 9.10
[10:14] <archbuclaw> jurcek, and running firefox gets you what ...
[10:14] <snitko> how can I find what's working on my 80 port? I'd like to kill the sucker to run my server, but I don't what process is it
[10:14] <jurcek> archbuclaw, if i run it with sudo firefox it runs firefox normaly, but if i run it only with firefox command i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/419727/
[10:15] <geekphreak> jurcek:  ls -l /usr/bin/fir*
[10:15] <perhamlinux> !ask | maX0
[10:15] <archbuclaw> jurcek, then remove the local installation ?
[10:15] <jurcek> archbuclaw, how do i do that?
[10:15] <archbuclaw> rm ~/bin/firefox
[10:15] <abou_7anash_009> hi all where can I put the password for my account in evolution, I did try the wizard and account settings
[10:16] <archbuclaw> jurcek, infact, if the "bin" directory in your home directory is empty, remove that altogether
[10:16] <SwedeMike> snitko: netstat -anp | grep :80 as root
[10:16] <geekphreak> abou_7anash_009: email account password?
[10:16] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: it asks first time you connect
[10:16] <jurcek> archbuclaw, it's not empty
[10:17] <snitko> SwedeMike: makes no sense, only shows processes that connect somewhere outside to the external port 80
[10:18] <androooie>  /quit
[10:19] <geekphreak> erUSUL: howdy :)
[10:19] <erUSUL> geekphreak: good morning :)
[10:20] <perhamlinux> jurcek: ls -l ~/bin
[10:20] <geekphreak> jurcek: can you paste output of this command >> ls -l /usr/bin/fir*
[10:20] <archbuclaw> jurcek, well, I'll leave you to decide whether or not it is needed then. (chances am - probably not, unless you installed other applications there). - I take it firefox probably works now.
[10:20] <archbuclaw> although, you might want to clean up any mess you made via:
[10:21] <archbuclaw> sudo chown jurcek:jurcek ~/.mozilla -R
[10:21] <abou_7anash_009> Trying to setup imaps usign port 993 and tls , I did set all settings as they should be, the work fine on thunderbird, however all that evolution does is keep scanning for folders and then nohting it does not even prompt for a passwrod
[10:21] <maX0> I've installed avidemux, but wasn't able to start it, when I start it from the start menu, nothing happens, when I start it from terminal, I get this error output http://paste.ubuntu.com/419738/ and application stops again, any suggestions?
[10:21] <abou_7anash_009> I did launch evolution from a shell and the message there is Making Error
[10:21] <archbuclaw> jurcek, and in future, don't use sudo to run GUI apps. =)
[10:22] <geekphreak> abou_7anash_009: did you click on send/recieve
[10:22] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: what email service are you using? gmail?
[10:23] <geekphreak> wow he left
[10:23] <perhamlinux> geekphreak: who?
[10:23] <BusMaster> I need a simple program to draw red circles around parts of a jpg image that I want to highlight. What should I use? Gimp doesn't have that feature
[10:24] <geekphreak> jurcek whom we were working with, prob got d/c
[10:24] <geekphreak> BusMaster: try xpaint
[10:24] <BusMaster> geekphreak, ok, I'll apt-get it now
[10:25] <perhamlinux> BusMaster: also gpaint and kolourpaint are good programs. I have all installed
[10:25] <sasayins> why I can't see the other computer in my network folder?
[10:25] <sasayins> im using ubuntu 9.10
[10:25] <BusMaster> perhamlinux, heh ok..then I'll install the one which has the smallest size :)
[10:27] <BusMaster> perhamlinux, yikes! gpaint doesn't have Undo
[10:28] <perhamlinux> pidgin is much better than empathy
[10:28] <perhamlinux> BusMaster: lol
[10:28] <bullgard4> How to insert a bulleted list in OpenOffice.org Impress text?
[10:28] <BusMaster> perhamlinux, what kind of a program doesn' have undo ;)
[10:28] <perhamlinux> BusMaster: a geeky one!
[10:28] <abou_7anash_009> perhamlinux: no I am using my company's IMAP server
[10:29] <perhamlinux> maX0: try reporting it to avidemux group. it's a bug there
[10:29] <bullgard4> perhamlinux: Empathy is much better than Pidgin.
[10:29] <geekphreak> bullgard hello
[10:30] <geekphreak> bullgard4:  select text , that you wana number >> bull >> bullet and numbering
[10:30] <perhamlinux> bullgard4: then we can agree to disagree
[10:31] <maX0> perhamlinux: thanks
[10:31] <iceroot> BusMaster: rm
[10:32] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: in preferences, account editor, did you set the authentication type to password?
[10:32] <geekphreak> iceroot:  that was funny hehe
[10:32] <abou_7anash_009> perhamlinux: yaeh
[10:32] <BusMaster> iceroot, ergo, newbies like me prefer "Move to Trash" :)
[10:33] <iceroot> BusMaster: there is no trash on the cli
[10:33] <perhamlinux> and it's not asking for password? abou_7anash_009
[10:33] <BusMaster> iceroot, yeah..the cli is uber-manly
[10:33] <geekphreak> iceroot: $HOME/.local/share/Trash ;)
[10:34] <abou_7anash_009> perhamlinux: no when doing send receive it appears to be working but it does nothing it does not even get the folder listing and no errors as well
[10:34] <BusMaster> geekphreak, and maybe alias rm='mv $1  $HOME/.local/share/Trash'; or something like that..
[10:34] <geekphreak> abou_7anash_009: is imap even enabled on your gmail?
[10:34] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: I have no idea . I'm using imap with gmx.com and it works great
[10:35] <Yoshario> Is Linux Mint better than Ubuntu?
[10:35] <perhamlinux> geekphreak: it's not gmail. it's his company's server
[10:35] <perhamlinux> Yoshario: define better
[10:35] <geekphreak> oh ok perhamlinux sorry
[10:35] <DarkHack> Yoshario it all really depends on what you actually plan to DO on said linux distro
[10:35] <geekphreak> Yoshario:  matter of personal choice
[10:35] <DarkHack> and what geekphreak said
[10:36] <DarkHack> like me
[10:36] <DarkHack> I just got done changing from ubuntu (nice distro, good features) back to PCLinuxOS GNOME
[10:36] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: have you tried setting it with thunderbird  and see if it works?
[10:36] <gjb> Hi all. Can anyone recommend a utility to "ping" a host by TCP port?
[10:36] <Zider> nmap
[10:37] <Zider> I think can do it
[10:37] <iceroot> geekphreak: and rm dont care about trash
[10:37] <perhamlinux> gjb: nmap, and for a gui try zenmap
[10:37] <geekphreak> iceroot: lol agreed but you can mv stuff there that ya wana rm :d
[10:38] <iceroot> geekphreak: the trash is working with something like a registry so mv will not modify the registry correctly
[10:38] <Yoshario> Are there any other ubuntu-related channels?
[10:38] <abou_7anash_009> perhamlinux: yaeh it works with TB but I dont like TB it is to slow in search and indexing no easy way to create filters and rules right away from message ..amongst half a dozen other things
[10:39] <geekphreak> Yoshario:  #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[10:39] <geekphreak> iceroot:  agreed sir
[10:39] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: fine. then I guess the problem is in evolution itself. contact their support team
[10:39] <gjb> Zider, perhamlinux: Thanks. I'll have a look at the docs to see whether it can probe every second.
[10:39] <rww> Yoshario: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[10:39] <Yoshario> Thanks rww
[10:40] <perhamlinux> any chess players here?
[10:40] <Zider> yeah
[10:40] <bullgard4> geekphreak: I found it. Thank you very much for your help.
[10:40] <perhamlinux> do you play on fics?
[10:40] <iceroot> perhamlinux: you have a ubuntu-support-question?
[10:40] <geekphreak> bullgard4 welcome
[10:41] <perhamlinux> iceroot: nope, just chatting
[10:41] <abou_7anash_009> perhamlinux: you motherfucker ...I suggest you go take your mom from behind doggy style ..I fucking know it is an evolution problem..why the fuck are you wasting my time ...I could have made your mother blow me one during the time I wasted on you you bastard
[10:41] <abou_7anash_009> perhamlinux: you motherfucker ...I suggest you go take your mom from behind doggy style ..I fucking know it is an evolution problem..why the fuck are you wasting my time ...I could have made your mother blow me one during the time I wasted on you you bastard
[10:41] <FloodBot4> abou_7anash_009: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:41] <Zider> err
[10:41] <iceroot> !ot | perhamlinux
[10:41] <iceroot> !ops | abou_7anash_009
[10:42] <perhamlinux> and that comes when I just wanna help
[10:42] <perhamlinux> sigh
[10:43] <ikonia> perhamlinux: what is the problem ?
[10:43] <perhamlinux> ikonia: someone just insulted me
[10:43] <perhamlinux> ikonia: never mind
[10:43] <ikonia> perhamlinux: ok - so forget about it and move on
[10:44] <perhamlinux> see you guys later. bye
[10:45] <sweb> help
[10:45] <sweb> my ubuntu zoomed the screen
[10:45] <johnlvpl> Hello
[10:45] <sweb> how can I rool back it
[10:45] <rww> sweb: Ctrl+scroll wheel, I think
[10:46] <rww> maybe windows/super key instead of ctrl
[10:46] <sweb> rww, yeah thank
[10:46] <le_> hello
[10:46] <johnlvpl> Hi Everybody This is my first day on Ubuntu Got real sick of windows, can I ask which firewall for this on a single user network is recommended ? and thanks
[10:47] <geekphreak> llutz: hello
[10:47] <johnlvpl> Hi
[10:47] <llutz> hi geekphreak
[10:48] <geekphreak> sweb do you mean resolution?
[10:49] <johnlvpl> anybody recommend a firewall
[10:49] <geekphreak> arvind_khadri:  ubuntu ok now?
[10:49] <uwjweq> Is there an english-german dictionary for the CLI?
[10:50] <psycho_oreos> johnlvpl, there's a built-in one already, its called iptables
[10:50] <arvind_khadri> geekphreak, yeah, working fine, using thunderbird-2
[10:50] <le_> what is IRC?
[10:50] <geekphreak> arvind_khadri:  urgh
[10:50] <iceroot> johnlvpl: for what you need a firewall? normally you dont need a (persoanl) firewall like the things on windows
[10:50] <rednammoc> Hi. I'm using Evolution mail and changed the passwords for my email-account. when i want to receive my emails it fails, prompting that there is an authentication-issui. it does not say which account is affected. neither way i don't know how to change the password for this account. do you know ?
[10:51] <iceroot> le_: internet relay chat, the one you are using here
[10:51] <uwjweq> le_: No idea, maybe you could ask the guys on IRC if they know.
[10:51] <uwjweq> le_: There you have it. They could.
[10:51] <BigRedS_> johnlvpl, the firewall's built in and called  iptables
[10:52] <digifor> I am getting the following: sudo: ping: command not found
[10:52] <le_> hehe.....im a chinese
[10:52] <iceroot> digifor: dont use sudo for ping
[10:52] <BigRedS_> it's a text-based interface, but there are GUI frontends for it.
[10:52] <johnlvpl> thanks guys, sorry very new to this, only installed last night
[10:52] <Zider> I wouldn't really call iptables a firewall, but.. *shrugs*
[10:52] <BigRedS_> JohnnyAmerica, Firestarter's a common reccomendation
[10:53] <digifor> iceroot, ping https://unakrt-wm.unlb.org/bash: /bin/ping: Permission denied
[10:53] <BigRedS_> er, not JohnnyAmerica
[10:53] <digifor> I usually have to sudo
[10:53] <johnlvpl> hehe me you mean
[10:53] <BigRedS_> johnlvpl, Firestarter's a common reccomendation
[10:53] <azlon> how can i limit lsof down to a specific path (/media/archivestorage/)?
[10:53] <iceroot> digifor: ls -l /bin/ping
[10:54] <digifor> ---------- 1 root root 34756 2010-03-12 00:12 /bin/ping
[10:54] <maulana> test
[10:55] <iceroot> digifor: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 33528  9. Sep 2009  /bin/ping*
[10:56] <le_> I have a problem...i install windows on vmware, i want to have my windows guest connected to internet, then my host ubuntu share this connection~
[10:56] <llutz> digifor: sudo chmod 755 /bin/ping
[10:56] <llutz> digifor: sudo chmod u+s /bin/ping
[10:57] <song> what??
[10:57] <le_> who can tell me？
[10:57] <le_> 有中国的吗～
[10:57] <iceroot> le_: #vmware
[10:58] <sweb> geekphreak, no zoom in / out ... hold super key and scroll your mouse
[10:58] <assassingj> 有
[10:58] <dariusvw> anyone willing to recomend a Terminal program to use from windows --> ubuntu and for ubuntu --> windows. Both pc's will be on the 10.0.0.x IP range although the Xp PC is on a domain.  Thanks
[10:59] <llutz> dariusvw: terminal-prog for what?
[11:00] <song> ping
[11:00] <dariusvw> llutz; sorry, so that i can see what on the other pc and work on it remotely
[11:00] <llutz> dariusvw: ssh/putty(win)
[11:02] <testuser> hi
[11:02] <iceroot> dariusvw: cygwin/sshd on the windows-machine as ssh-server to that you can use ssh into it
[11:03] <llutz> dariusvw: cygwin sucks, use freesshd
[11:03] <hmw> DBAN crashes on the computer, I want to delete all data from. Is there a tool, that works with the Ubuntu USB-boot-thumb-drive, which lets me irrecoverably delete hard drives?
[11:04] <geekphreak> llutz: that works on windows too?
[11:04] <llutz> geekphreak: ssh? sure, if you know win commandline
[11:04] <geekphreak> hmw wipe
[11:04] <BigRedS_> hmw, repeated dd ?
[11:04] <hmw> thx
[11:04] <geekphreak> llutz: i know my command line :)
[11:07] <G_A_C> hmw: shred from the Ubuntu LiveCD
[11:07] <goez> !html
[11:08] <G_A_C> something like "shred -n 3 -z -v /dev/sd?" will replicate standard DBAN behaviour (3 random passes, 1 zero pass)
[11:09] <hmw> LOL - from the man page of wipe (the author doesnt trust hard drives too much): "The best way to sanitize a storage medium is to subject it to temperatures exceeding 1500K"
[11:09] <Zider> I'd agree with that, it's the only way to be really safe :P
[11:10] <BigRedS_> hmw, no-one trusts hdds that much
[11:10] <geekphreak> hmw: well its true, hdd cannot be trusted , thats why people recomend backups, right?
[11:10] <BigRedS_> All any software tool can do is make it more effort than it's worth to get the data off.
[11:11] <geekphreak> hmw:  you can also get something like ubcd, which has kildisk, similar to dban
[11:12] <llutz> geekphreak: most datas were lost due to layer-8 problems
[11:13] <geekphreak> llutz:  oh ok
[11:13] <hmw> note taken. in this case an "unsafe" 4-passes-only wipe will suffice. Can someone tell me, why the man page is warning me about wiping a whole drive (not only a partition), since the MBR would be deleted? I mean, so what?? Can't Linux create a new MBR after I wiped it with  wipe -kD /dev/sda  ??
[11:14] <llutz> "rm important.data" ups ,where is the trash? :(
[11:15] <BigRedS_> hmw, because your intention might be to just delete a partition. If you hose an entire drive when aiming for just a partition, you'd be pissed
[11:15] <BigRedS_> well, I would be
[11:15] <hmw> BigRedS_: that was, what I was thinking, too - the man page is somewhat confusing about this detail. Thanks.
[11:16] <kennethaar> Clicking on links in thunderbrid doesn't make a link open in firefox. Default webbrowser is set to firefox. But it won't work anyway.
[11:17] <llutz> kennethaar: you have to set http protocol-handler-app in thunderbird
[11:20] <geekphreak> time for work, adios :)
[11:20] <Anon014> hellooo
[11:21] <hmw> !hi | iMuNCo
[11:22] <kennethaar> llutz: Where do I do this
[11:22] <stego__> !apt-get
[11:24] <llutz> kennethaar: user.js or prefs.js, tb-3 should have an option in settings-menu for that, just look for it
[11:24] <lalalol> is it a good idea to add the PPA of every program i have installed? because ubuntu doesnt always update when a newer version of the program is released, even when its stabloe
[11:25] <azlon> for some reason i cannot resize my ntfs RAID using ntfsresize. i get this error: ERROR(21): Opening '/media/ArchiveStorage/' as NTFS failed: Is a directory
[11:25] <llutz> lalalol: if you want always the newest stuff, you shouldn't use a distro with fixed release cycles
[11:25] <BigRedS_> lalalol, it add management overhead and reduces the stability.
[11:25] <DevilsToucH> ##c++
[11:26] <llutz> azlon: i guess it needs a device not a mountpoint
[11:26] <BigRedS_> lalalol, It's a reasonable idea to do it for some specific apps you want to keep bang up to date with, but rather than use hundreds of PPAs you might want to look at a more bleeding-edge-following distro.
[11:26] <azlon> llutz: so i should use /dev/md0/ instead of /media/ArchiveStorage? let me try...
[11:26] <lalalol> BigRedS_, which distro should i use then?
[11:27] <BigRedS_> lalalol, Er, I don't know really. I'm a bit of a debianite - Ubuntu's as bleeding edge as I get
[11:27] <lalalol> BigRedS_, how many PPA's would you use at max?
[11:27] <llutz> lalalol: debian-sid if you know what you're doing
[11:27] <azlon> llutz: http://pastebin.com/6KvBk7Ue
[11:28] <llutz> azlon: no www here, sry
[11:28] <joaopinto> lalalol, you can use getdeb and playdeb for updated packages
[11:28] <lalalol> thx for all the info guys :)
[11:28] <BigRedS_> lalalol, It depends. If I want a JustWorks box, two or three. If I don't mind the odd bit of messing around, maybe several more. Also depends on teh stability of the PPA - how stable is teh code before it gets into it?
[11:29] <lalalol> BigRedS_, i'd use a ppa for cairodock, pidgin, chromium, and maybe openoffice
[11:29] <BigRedS_> Ah yeah, Debian Unstable's, er, fun and mostly bleeding edge. Debian Testing's approximately Ubuntu but without any releases, just rolling updates.
[11:29] <azlon> llutz: i ran this: "sudo ntfsresize -fn --size 7000G /dev/md0/" and it returned this: "ERROR(20): Failed to check '/dev/md0/' mount state: Not a directory. Probably /etc/mtab is missing. It's too risky to continue. You might try an another Linux distro."
[11:29] <Demiurge> Are there any programs that can send an email if f.ex. a hdd on a server is getting full?
[11:29] <hmw> I am happily wiping already. Thanks for your input! Have a nice Day!
[11:29] <BigRedS_> lalalol, that sounds quite reasonable. It's more if you're up to 15-20 that I'd start cowering
[11:30] <lalalol> ok BigRedS_ , thx, oh and one more thing, which chat client would you recommend, xchat or smuxi?
[11:30] <BigRedS_> Demiurge: several. Munin, Nagios, Cacti. There's probably more desktoppy ones, too
[11:30] <llutz> azlon: sorry i cannot help you, i dont use raid at all and hardly ntfs. imho it's better to use win-tools to work with ntfs
[11:30] <Demiurge> BigRedS_: Thanks.
[11:30] <BigRedS_> lalalol, XChat appears to be reasonable. I normally use irssi. never seen smuxi
[11:30] <lalalol> k BigRedS_
[11:32] <ct529> hi there! I would like to discover whihc package create the directory /usr/include/FL and installed the files that are there
[11:32] <ct529> how do i do that?
[11:32] <llutz> ct529: dpkg -S /usr/include/FL
[11:33] <ct529> llutz: thanks a lot
[11:34] <ct529> llutz: and if I want to find which package would provide the file /usr/include/GL/glu.h before installing it?
[11:34] <llutz> ct529: apt-file search
[11:36] <AdmiralDeath> how do I allow a program access through the ubuntu firewall?
[11:37] <micael> why can i only have a 800x600 on my screen
[11:37] <micael> anyone knows what to do
[11:37] <sebsebseb> Hi
[11:38] <AdmiralDeath> micael: try going to system then hardware drivers
[11:38] <micael> i am new and just trying out linux
[11:38] <AdmiralDeath> see if there is a driver there
[11:38] <micael> AdmiralDeath there is no driver
[11:39] <AdmiralDeath> then I have no idea. I am new to linux myself
[11:39] <micael> it is a Acer aspire m1610 that i have
[11:39] <AdmiralDeath> you tried adjusting the resolution right?
[11:40] <micael> AdmiralDeath in the resolutipn i only have 800x600 and i smaller
[11:40] <azlon> how do i see what a process is based on it's id?
[11:40] <AdmiralDeath> ok thats all I can think of. My knowledge of linux is very small
[11:40] <Zider> micael: what graphics card do you have?
[11:41] <micael> Admiradeath thanks
[11:41] <AdmiralDeath> no problem
[11:42] <AdmiralDeath> so anyone know how to let a program through the ubuntu firewall?
[11:42] <goez> azlon: ps aux | grep <PID>
[11:42] <goez> AdmiralDeath: how do you mean ?
[11:42] <jrib> AdmiralDeath: ubuntu's firewall has no rules setup by default, so there's nothing to do
[11:43] <sebsebseb> AdmiralDeath: Ubuntu is ok by default when it comes to firewall as far as I know,  but you can install gufw  if you want, a graphical program, and tell it to use firewall.
[11:43] <azlon> goez: ok, now how do i kill that process?
[11:43] <llutz> AdmiralDeath: the "firewall" does not app-based
[11:43] <AdmiralDeath> I am using wine to install a program and I need that program to be able to bypass the firewall. I trust the program so it is not a security risk
[11:43] <goez> kill -9 <PID>
[11:43] <llutz> work*
[11:43] <goez> azlon: kill -9 <PID>
[11:43] <AdmiralDeath> well for some reason it is blocking the program I am trying to install
[11:43] <sebsebseb> AdmiralDeath: Which program?
[11:43] <azlon> goez: thanks
[11:43] <AdmiralDeath> Steam
[11:44] <micael> Zider not sure i am trying to find it on acer
[11:44] <llutz> AdmiralDeath: "sudo iptables -L"
[11:44] <Zider> micael: there's no sticker on the computer or something?
[11:44] <sebsebseb> AdmiralDeath: Ubuntu firewall's and Wine aren't exactly linked.  Also you can get Steam working in Wine,  you can ask for help in #winehq
[11:44] <goez> AdmiralDeath: if u have a firewall, u need to open up the steam ports
[11:45] <goez> don't know them out of my head
[11:45] <psycho_oreos> could always run steam and open up terminal, type in sudo lsof -i
[11:45] <micael> Zider it can be sis mirage
[11:45] <AdmiralDeath> I only have whatever comes preinstalled with ubuntu
[11:45] <sebsebseb> AdmiralDeath: if you got say a router with a enabled built in firewall,  well then sure you may need to open up ports in that, for certain applications
[11:45] <azlon> goez: i dont think im doing something right. i am trying to umount my RAID by doing sudo umount /media/ArchiveStorage/. this returns an error of "umount: /media/ArchiveStorage: device is busy." so then i did: "fuser -m /media/ArchiveStorage/" and it returned, "/media/ArchiveStorage/:  3259c"
[11:46] <llutz> AdmiralDeath: there is no filtering by default
[11:46] <AdmiralDeath> I have everything opened in my router
[11:46] <Zider> micael: hm, no idea then.. :/
[11:46] <AdmiralDeath> maybe it is wine
[11:46] <goez> azlon: lsof | grep /media/ArchiveStorage
[11:46] <goez> azlon: that will show the processed that are writing on the disk atm
[11:46] <llutz> AdmiralDeath: ask at #winehq
[11:46] <sebsebseb> AdmiralDeath: I know that Steam should work in wine,  because as far as I know quite a lot of other people have been successful
[11:46] <AdmiralDeath> k thanks
[11:47] <azlon> goez: it didnt return anything
[11:47] <azlon> goez: this is what i have done so far: http://pastebin.com/9Bgu9H82
[11:47] <FunkyWeasel> Morning.  Funny thing - setting up a new webserver on an internal machine, fresh karmic install - but trying to set up mysql and I find the default root password is not blank.  Has this changed in Karmic?
[11:48] <Raydiation> which package do i need for 32bit gl on a 64bit system?
[11:48] <Raydiation> need it for wine
[11:48] <jrib> FunkyWeasel: iirc, you are asked to set one during install
[11:48] <micael> Zider ok thanks
[11:48] <alicja> hello
[11:49] <alicja> ?
[11:49] <FunkyWeasel> jrib: That's what I though.  I used synaptic.  It did not prompt me.
[11:49] <goez> azlon: try fuser -v /media/ArchiveStorage
[11:49] <jrib> FunkyWeasel: try dpkg-reconfigure whatever-the-package-was
[11:49] <azlon> goez: nothing
[11:49] <goez> then try a forced umount
[11:49] <Simon1245> Hello guys, I need help.. Does anyone know how to use .awn thing? I want to use the Avant Window Navigator but I don't know how I can get it working, Could anyone please help me?
[11:50] <goez> sudo umount /media/ArchiveStorage --force
[11:50] <goez> or -o force
[11:50] <FunkyWeasel> jrib: No apparent response to dkpg-reconfigure
[11:50] <jrib> FunkyWeasel: just reset the password I guess, the mysql docs have instructions
[11:50] <G_A_C> dpkg-reconfigure -p low packagename could be better
[11:50] <alicja> what is install flash ?
[11:50] <alicja> help me
[11:50] <alicja> please
[11:50] <alicja> i am in poland
[11:50] <jrib> !flash > alicja
[11:51] <alicja> !flash
[11:51] <G_A_C> in case for some reason root password isn't listed as a high priority question (although I can't think of much higher!)
[11:51] <FunkyWeasel> jrib: Aye, there's the deb hack.  Strange that I have to though.  I thought default pword was blank.  Something's obviously changed in karmic.
[11:51] <azlon> goez: none of those worked, they all returned "device is busy"
[11:51] <stego__> !chroot
[11:52] <jrib> FunkyWeasel: it did used to be blank but I seem to recall having to set a password in debconf so it must have changed.  It should have still worked even if you used synaptic though
[11:52] <FunkyWeasel> Yup - l/databases/mysql/ubuntu-9.10-karmic at site ibrary.linode.com says the same.  I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling mysql-server with apt-get.  No prompt for pword.
[11:52] <goez> azlon: can u do a ps auxw|grep 3259  ?
[11:53] <goez> or
[11:53] <goez> azlon: do 'sudo ps auxw|grep 3259'  ?
[11:53] <azlon> ok
[11:54] <azlon> goez: http://pastebin.com/Yqy6NTr3
[11:54] <goez> azlon: is it a samba share?
[11:54] <azlon> yes
[11:54] <G_A_C> FunkyWeasel: did you remove or purge mysql?
[11:54] <goez> azlon: thats the problem, ur samba deamon is still accessing the drive
[11:54] <G_A_C> remove may have left the old config intact, meaning it wouldn't ask you for the password again
[11:54] <xplinux> i need  vuze an google earth for complete my xplinux   , ylmf os i need links
[11:55] <goez> azlon: sudo /etc/init.d/smbd stop (or smb stop)
[11:55] <azlon> goez, crap... so i need to kill smb
[11:55] <FunkyWeasel> g_a_c: Just tried a package remove.  It's a fresh copy of mysql, nothing importanted, no config changes.   Highly confusing.
[11:55] <goez> azlon: u can gracefully stop it with that init.d script :p
[11:55] <FunkyWeasel> g_a_c: Have not successfully logged in to mysql yet.
[11:55] <goez> azlon: then u mount and then restart smb (/etc/init.d/smb start)
[11:55] <azlon> both smb and smbd say command not found
[11:55] <xplinux> i need debian packs because i dont know compile
[11:56] <david_brent> can anybody tell me what fstype i need to ut to mount an img file
[11:56] <goez> azlon: and samba or sumthing? (try /etc/init.d/s<tab>) also don't forget u need to run it as root
[11:56] <david_brent> need to put*
[11:56] <FunkyWeasel> Can't even use sudo /etc/init.d/mysql reset-password because I also get access denied!
[11:56] <goez> FunkyWeasel: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server ?
[11:57] <FunkyWeasel> goez: Does nothing.
[11:57] <azlon> goez: freaking awesome! thanks!
[11:57] <goez> azlon: yw
[11:57] <alicja> ~droid@bl6-125-160.dsl.telepac.pt
[11:57] <alicja> !help
[11:58] <goez> FunkyWeasel: check here http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[11:58] <goez> FunkyWeasel: under B.5.4.1.2. Resetting the Root Password on Unix Systems
[11:58] <FunkyWeasel> goez: Cheers.
[11:59] <xplinux> i need  links for packs debian    the programs are vuze and google earth
[12:00] <hateball> !info vuze
[12:00] <hateball> xplinux: sudo aptitude install vuze
[12:01] <FunkyWeasel> Ah, got it.  Right.  Cheers folks :)
[12:01] <Simon1245> Can anyone help me with avant windows navigator?
[12:01] <goez> xplinux: google earth can be downloaded for linux on earth.google.com
[12:01] <xplinux> yes problems with vuze i dont found packs debian for vuze, vuze is very dificult for install in linux , sure
[12:02] <azlon> goez: do you happen to know how to do a ntfs check with ntfsprogs?
[12:02] <goez> azlon: I've read something about them ... but also read ntfs utils on linux ain't that good...
[12:02] <goez> azlon: so can't help u there I'm afraid
[12:02] <azlon> hrmm
[12:02] <AdmiralDeath> I am having a problem with the nvidia driver
[12:03] <goez> azlon: try here : http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php
[12:03] <AdmiralDeath> says Failed to parse existing X Config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[12:03] <azlon> goez: already reading through it ;) thanks!!
[12:04] <xplinux> i use the most easy version linux for users windows  my distro linux is ylmf o.s and is ike xp but better
[12:04] <xplinux> like xp
[12:05] <meborc> slow day here today
[12:07] <reeniginEesreveR> i have ubuntu server. when i try to start mysql using /etc/init.d/mysql start ... it says failed. Nothing in the logs :S how do i figure out whats going on?
[12:08] <goez> reeniginEesreveR: check syslog for errors
[12:09] <danielleek> Hi
[12:10] <mentok> uh, what's the release date on 10 again?
[12:10] <haavaros> Hi! In evolution, work phone numbers doesn't show up in list view. Does anyone know about this?
[12:11] <bazhang> !lucid | mentok
[12:11] <peterson> any idea how to communicate directly with the Ubuntu developers?
[12:11] <mentok> thank you.
[12:11] <jrib> peterson: for what purpose?
[12:12] <peterson> I need to give my sugesstions to `em.
[12:12] <bazhang> !brainstorm | peterson
[12:12] <peterson> Before Lucid released.
[12:12] <bazhang> feature freeze tomorrow
[12:13] <rww> final freeze. feature freeze was a while ago.
[12:13] <reeniginEesreveR> goez, syslog says that mysql port 3306 might be already in use although nothing is using 3306 at this time
[12:13] <bazhang> whoops thanks rww
[12:13] <rww> and final freeze was last week, actually :3
[12:14] <goez> reeniginEesreveR: netstat -tap |grep 3306
[12:14] <petmark> Isn't the final April 29th?
[12:14] <judgen> any simple way of getting qt apps look like my gtk theme?
[12:14] <ravn> hi folks, in my 9.10 GNOME has suddenly stopped to mount things, dmesg discovers that e.g. a new SD-card has been inserted, but it is not mounted by GNOME, what's wrong??
[12:14] <bazhang> petmark, yes
[12:14] <reeniginEesreveR> goez, nohing else is listening on 3306 :S
[12:15] <petmark> So I know one gift I'll get for my birthday.
[12:15] <peterson> lucid is about to release I`m not sure whether is this too late.
[12:15] <bazhang> peterson, it is. #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[12:16] <goez> reeniginEesreveR: and when u telnet localhost 3306 u don't get anything either?
[12:16] <petmark> I haven't setup an Ubuntu system from scratch for awhile, since you can just upgrade to the next. On a clean install, is DHCP on by default?
[12:16] <BigRedS_> petmark, yup
[12:16] <goez> petmark: yes
[12:16] <petmark> IPV4 and/or IPV6?
[12:16] <goez> petmark: I think ipv4
[12:17] <reeniginEesreveR> goez: nope
[12:17] <AdmiralDeath> anyone know anything about Nvidia drivers for ubuntu
[12:17] <AdmiralDeath> ?
[12:18] <ikonia> just ask the question
[12:18] <petmark> Thanks. ( I always change mine to static, so I didn't remember the defaults. )
[12:18] <BigRedS_> I know a couple of things about them
[12:18] <AdmiralDeath> says Failed to parse existing X Config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[12:18] <BigRedS_> petmark, there is the option of setting static in the installer I think.
[12:18] <goez> reeniginEesreveR: weird :/
[12:19] <reeniginEesreveR> goez, :(
[12:19] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, is there an /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and can you read it as the user you're running the NVIdia installer as?
[12:19] <goez> reeniginEesreveR: and ur sure u are running it as root?
[12:19] <BigRedS_> if there isn't one (there's not by default), just touching it might help
[12:19] <nsp> Hi! Can someone help me out with Ubuntu sound.  I installed Ubuntu 9.10 a week ago and i still cannot use my headphones. I have laptop with integrated sound card. Speakers are fine by the way. I checked alsamixer and un-muted everything there but output still doesnt work
[12:19] <reeniginEesreveR> goez, i sure am
[12:19] <azlon> goez: ok, so the more i read the more i realized NTFS on linux just plain suxors... is there any way to convert the fs to ext3 without having to reformat or move all of my information?
[12:20] <BigRedS_> nsp do you know which sound chipset you've got?
[12:20] <reeniginEesreveR> but when i try to connect, it says  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[12:20] <BigRedS_> azlon, Nope
[12:20] <goez> azlon: don't think so
[12:20] <AdmiralDeath> BigRedS: yes there is a xorg.conf and yes I can read it
[12:20] <BigRedS_> Does X report any errors on parsing it? It might be malformed
[12:20] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, ^^
[12:21] <AdmiralDeath> it does not say anything about errors
[12:21] <BigRedS_> Hm?
[12:21] <AdmiralDeath> do I need to be using the terminal to open it?
[12:21] <haavaros> Funny problem i Evolution: When I save a number in contacts under work phone, the number is moved to 'fax home' when I save. When I save under 'fax home' it is moved to 'home phone' etc. What's up with that?
[12:21] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, using the terminal to open what?
[12:22] <BigRedS_> You must have X stopped to install the driver
[12:22] <AdmiralDeath> the xorg.conf
[12:22] <BigRedS_> or certainly used to need to
[12:22] <BigRedS_> Ah, no.
[12:22] <AdmiralDeath> all I have is sections for screen module and device
[12:22] <BigRedS_> The errors will be xorg's log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:22] <BigRedS_> Lines beginning '(EE)' are errors, which is what you'd expect if you had a malformed xorg.conf
[12:23] <BigRedS_> so
[12:23] <BigRedS_> grep EE /var/log/xorg.0.log
[12:23] <BigRedS_> normally tells you if you've errors
[12:23] <BigRedS_> in a terminal
[12:23] <xplinux> with the easy than is  found and  install programs in windows  but with linux problems .... always problems..
[12:24] <icl> hi
[12:24] <BigRedS_> xplinux, what?
[12:24] <jrib> !software > xplinux
[12:24] <icl> need friend
[12:24] <AdmiralDeath> I opended the log file and there are no lines starting with EE
[12:25] <tmroly> :(
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> xplinux:  the thing is in windows you go on the web and 'find' things.. in ubuntu you want to use teh package manager tools and let them find things.
[12:25] <tmroly> :P
[12:27] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, try moving the xorg.conf file elsewhere (xorg.conf.bak ?) and rerunning the driver installer? might break X, so keep the current one handy to unbreak it
[12:27] <AdmiralDeath> ok I will try that
[12:29] <AdmiralDeath> it would seem that I dont have permission
[12:29] <BigRedS_> ah yeah, you won't. root does
[12:29] <BigRedS_> In a terminal:
[12:29] <AdmiralDeath> let me log in as root and see if I can do it there
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> to work with a system file. You need 'root' rights of course. :)
[12:29] <BigRedS_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[12:29] <BigRedS_> Noo! Don't log in as root!
[12:29] <BigRedS_> There be dragons
[12:29] <micael> anyone knows how to do with a sis mirage 771 card to work in the new ubuntu
[12:30] <haavaros> How do I upgrade a single program (e.g. Evolution)?
[12:30] <xplinux> dr the manager tools in linusx arent automatics for this reason the users windows with linux have problems many problems
[12:30] <BigRedS_> haavaros: apt-get install evolution
[12:30] <AdmiralDeath> ok I typed that command
[12:30] <haavaros> oh ... thx
[12:31] <BigRedS_> haavaros will install the latest version of evolution that's in the repository and update all dependencies
[12:31] <AdmiralDeath> and nothing happened
[12:31] <sleenk> i'm having a problem. i closed my lid on my laptop (which enables a blank screen) and i came back a few hours later, opened the lid, and it's still blank. i can see the cursor and move the mouse and it looks like i am hovering over apps because the cursor changes, any suggestions?
[12:31] <sleenk> i am using ubuntu 9.10 amd64
[12:31] <nomnex> bash: vim <filename>. But how to open the same file +UTF-8? what option do I pass in the terminal?
[12:31] <AdmiralDeath> it asked for my password but it appears to have done nothing
[12:32] <BigRedS_> nomnex, set enc=utf-8
[12:32] <mbd> /JOIN #sex
[12:32] <BigRedS_> in vim
[12:32] <mbd>  
[12:32] <haavaros> BigRedS_: Ok, it didn't update, although latest version is 2.30 and I have 2.28. I guess it's not in the repos, then
[12:32] <JSund> haavaros: gnome 2.30 will be shipped with lucid
[12:32] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, if it succeeds it'll not say anything. do   ls /etc/X11   and you should see it's copied. then delete the current one (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[12:32] <nomnex> BigRedS_, vim set enc=utf-8 <filename>? I don't want it to be permanent, only for this file
[12:32] <iceroot> nomnex: IN vim
[12:33] <AdmiralDeath> I cant delete the current one
[12:33] <AdmiralDeath> it wont let me
[12:33] <MasterOfDisaster> nomnex: don't forget typing ':' :-)
[12:33] <BigRedS_> nomnex. No, open vim, then  set enc=utf-8   then :o <filename>
[12:33] <BigRedS_> I think.
[12:33] <AdmiralDeath> I tell it to delete and it does nothing
[12:33] <smith> hello can someone help me get the original panel back for my desktop?
[12:33] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, so both files are still there, and it's not produced an error?
[12:34] <nomnex> BigRedS_, thanks, IN vim makes sens now (iceroot)
[12:34] <AdmiralDeath> correct
[12:34] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, In Linux, things succeed silently - if all went well, it doesn't say anything.
[12:34] <AdmiralDeath> other then the original error
[12:34] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, That *is* weird
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> !restorepanel
[12:34] <balachmar> \j #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <AdmiralDeath> figures
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[12:35] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[12:35] <smith> ubottu that sound malicious
[12:35] <silv3r_m00n> one user if able to see another users files by going to /home/username
[12:35] <silv3r_m00n> why ?
[12:35] <silv3r_m00n> how to disable this ?
[12:35] <BigRedS_> smith, it unsets user configuration to the panel, then kills the process running it. GDM then reinvokes it with the new defaults
[12:36] <BigRedS_> silv3r_m00n, look at file permissions. It's not an easy IRC explanation, but it's not particularly difficult, either
[12:36] <haavaros> I see that Evolution saves account settings in home/.gconf. Are those deleted upon uninstall?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> haavaros:  uninstall of what?
[12:36] <MasterOfDisaster> silv3r_m00n: use chmod
[12:36] <haavaros> Dr_Willis: Evolutoin
[12:36]  * smith shifts uneasily in his chair
[12:36] <BigRedS_> haavaros: not by default. apt-get --purge remove evolution will remove them
[12:36] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, try changing the directory perms with chmod -R 700 directoryname
[12:36] <BigRedS_> well, purge all evo's config files
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> haavaros:  thats windows thinking..  the package manager  should NOT touch user settings/configs in their home
[12:36] <silv3r_m00n> but by default arnt the files of one user supposed to be inaccessible to other users
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> BigRedS_:   not user files.. system files yes..
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:  not really.
[12:37] <haavaros> BigRedS_: Dr_Willis: OK, so when I reinstall it without the purge option it'll work with all account I have now?
[12:37] <silv3r_m00n> means all users can read and modify all other users files
[12:37] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[12:37] <BigRedS_> yeah
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:  if you want you can lock downt eh dirs more.. but then you may break that 'user defined shares' feature
[12:37] <haavaros> k thx
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:   you are misstaken..  SEE, yes,, read,, perhaps.. Write.. No.
[12:37] <smith> sweet bigred and mr botu, it worked
[12:37] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, you can't delete them or write usually
[12:37] <smith> thanks
[12:37] <smith> ^^
[12:37] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:  time to read up on Linux filesystem permissions
[12:38] <smith> you just earned coll points
[12:38] <smith> :D
[12:38] <Dr4g> Xorg taking up 99% CPU what could it be ?
[12:38] <smith> thanks
[12:38] <silv3r_m00n> on ubuntu 9.10 my microphone doesn't work
[12:38] <smith> peace
[12:38] <silv3r_m00n> how to make it work
[12:39] <JSund> silv3r_m00n: impossible to answer if you don't specify what hardware you have
[12:39] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, click on the volume icon on the top bar , open sound preferences , browse to Input tab , there uncheck "mute"
[12:40] <silv3r_m00n> tried all that still doesn't work
[12:40] <nsp> BigRedS_: I think it is called Realtek HD Audio
[12:40] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, what do you see under Choose a device for a sound input
[12:41] <nsp> BigRedS_ : I think it is called Realtek HD Audio
[12:41] <silv3r_m00n> me on kde
[12:42] <AdmiralDeath> ok it is telling me Nvidia installer must be run as root
[12:42] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, right , but you hear output sounds right , so your audio card is okay
[12:42] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, and the mic is internal stuff right?
[12:42] <silv3r_m00n> yah I can listen to music
[12:43] <silv3r_m00n> but mic doesn't work
[12:43] <BigRedS_> nsp, I don't know the current status of realtek drivers in Linux, but they used to be iffy
[12:43] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, so all we fight against is some audio control in the prefs jungle
[12:43] <AdmiralDeath> How do I exit X?
[12:43] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[12:44] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, coz if you hear music means the mic is also there hardwarewise
[12:44] <JSund> might be problem with the hardware as well - it's a known bug that the internal microphone on my laptop (Acer TM 8371) doesn't work, for one
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> AdmiralDeath:  one way ' sudo service gdm stop'
[12:44] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath, just logout :)
[12:44] <pvh_sa|wrk> hi there... i recently switched from compiz to metacity as a wm (ubuntu 9.10) and now when i play videos, they just show up as a black square. any hints?
[12:44] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis, moo !!!
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> geekphreak:  Muu!
[12:45] <AdmiralDeath> ok now I am trying to log in and it is telling me incorrect login
[12:45] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath, again?
[12:46] <AdmiralDeath> lol
[12:46] <AdmiralDeath> so it would appear I cannot log into the command line interface
[12:46] <geekphreak> what name are you choosing?
[12:46] <AdmiralDeath> inman
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> Or you are typing the name/pass wrong
[12:46] <BRc> hey
[12:47] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath,  you know the drill, press alt+f2 >> users-admin
[12:47] <AdmiralDeath> too late
[12:47] <AdmiralDeath> got it
[12:47] <AdmiralDeath> it does not like the numpad
[12:47] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath, about time ;)
[12:47] <BRc> everytime i try this command ..echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[12:47] <BRc> bash: /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches: Permission denied
[12:47] <BRc> how come
[12:48] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Brc , supposedly needs sudo for that
[12:48] <haavaros> Evolution problem: Contact data entered under 'work phone' is saved under 'fax home'. Data under 'fax home' is saved as 'home phone'. Data under 'home phone' is saved correctly. This error is also shown in list view of contacts. The column 'work phone' displays and sorts according to 'fax home' data. What kind of error is this?
[12:48] <BRc> i tried sudo...
[12:48] <BRc> sudo echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[12:48] <BRc> bash: /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches: Permission denied
[12:49] <g0r3_0f_g0d> can you do ls -l on that file BRc
[12:49] <BRc> u want me to paste it
[12:50] <geekphreak> i think AdmiralDeath likes the command line
[12:50] <BRc> g0r3_0f_g0d, u want me to paste that
[12:50] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Brc , do this , sudo su -
[12:51] <om26er> I installed ubuntu on a system and it works fine but it does not boot if I insert the pci wifi nothing happens after xsplash
[12:51] <AdmiralDeath> not really
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> err.. 'sudo -i' will work in stead of 'sudo su -'
[12:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Brc , echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop-caches
[12:51] <AdmiralDeath> I would prefer to use the GUI but it is not getting the job done
[12:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d> then exit
[12:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d> :)
[12:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d> uff
[12:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d> the issue is the file is rw only for root:root
[12:52] <om26er> xp boots fine on the same system
[12:52] <g0r3_0f_g0d> wondering what the actual drop_caches control does
[12:53] <BRc> g0r3_0f_g0d, thanks very much
[12:54] <ubuntu-usr> i have 2 wirless devices. one should connect with internet network, another should connect to local wireless intranet. how troubleshoot this problem? is any how to in the the web?
[12:54] <g0r3_0f_g0d> ubuntu-usr, this is just routing setup, default route should point to the internet wireless router and the rest of the intranet subnet to the intranet router as a gateway
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-usr:  theres dozens of 'wireles guides' on the web and in many disrto wiki pages/forums. it depends on the exact issue you are having and what you want to do with it.
[12:56] <AdmiralDeath> ok
[12:56] <ubuntu-usr> Dr_Willis, should you give an example of any wiki for my case?
[12:56] <AdmiralDeath> I installed the Nvidia driver from their website
[12:56] <AdmiralDeath> lets see if that works
[12:56] <ubuntu-usr> Dr_Willis, sorry colud you i mean
[12:56] <BRc> is ubuntu better then windows??
[12:56] <AdmiralDeath> LOL BRc
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-usr:  i found the archlinux wiki pages to have some very good core information on setting up wireless cards.. but it depends on your exact needs and the exact issue.
[12:56] <BRc> what a silly question..offcourse it is....lol
[12:56] <eveningsky> Anyone here know much about jack audio? Much appreciated if you could meet me over #jack to help me.
[12:56] <menghan> hello, everyone, can I fire a bug here?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> !bugs | menghan
[12:57] <ojii> is it normal that dbus_daemon uses 150MB ram?
[12:57] <azlon> how can i run a chkdsk on linux? i have a 8TB RAID5 that is in NTFS format and i need to run chkdsk before i can expand it.
[12:57] <menghan> Dr_Willis: thanks
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> menghan:  i would have to suggest using a windows machine to  check a 8tb windows raid..
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> Because I bet you dont have any backups if the linux box messed it up.
[12:58] <geekphreak> azlon,  just my thinking, if it is ntfs , use something like a windows cd/dvd to run a chkdsk or windows system
[12:58] <BigRedS_> Dr_Willis, I think that might've been aimed at azlon
[12:58] <g0r3_0f_g0d> azlon, fsck does the job partially , so like fsck -t ntfs /dev/somepartition
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> proberly :) heh
[12:59] <g0r3_0f_g0d> if you have ntfs progs installed
[12:59] <BigRedS_> But, yeah, I'd not go anywhere near NTFS with anything but WIndows if I could help it
[12:59] <menghan> Dr_Willis: what do you mean?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> fscking ntfs - isent really.. the same. :)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> menghan:  i see nicks scrill by too fast.  it was for azlon
[12:59] <g0r3_0f_g0d> yah but better as nothing
[12:59] <azlon> geekphreak: but this is a fake raid so if i boot from a XP cd/dvd then it wont see it, will it?
[12:59] <menghan> Dr_Willis: :D
[12:59] <g0r3_0f_g0d> the best is to fdisk , reformat , mkfs.ntfs :P
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> azlon:  You made a 8tb ntfs raid under linux?
[13:00] <g0r3_0f_g0d> can you actually make ntfs software raid volumes ?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> i wonder why you would want it.. if theres no windows on the box to read it..
[13:01] <geekphreak> true
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> so im totally confiused. :)
[13:01] <BRc> 8tb?? got any spare???
[13:01] <azlon> g0r3_0f_g0d: i tried running fsck -t ntfs and it gave me, "fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found"... how can i install it (apt-get install fsck.ntfs didnt work)
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> I dident think there even was a fsck.ntfs
[13:02] <g0r3_0f_g0d> sudo apt-get ntfs-progs it would be rather
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> !find fsck.ntfs
[13:02] <azlon> Dr_Willis: yes, i know it was stupid now that i look back, but his was several years ago when i was still just getting into linux... now i have grown myself into a corner
[13:02] <menghan> Dr_Willis: I need help. I don't known which prog has bug
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> You have had a 8TB setup for several years?
[13:02] <g0r3_0f_g0d> sudo apt-get ntfs-3g actually
[13:03] <g0r3_0f_g0d> sudo apt-get ntfs-config
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> g0r3_0f_g0d:  ya may want an 'install' in there :)
[13:03] <g0r3_0f_g0d> small detail
[13:03] <g0r3_0f_g0d> don't be picky :P
[13:03] <azlon> Dr_Willis: no, i started with 4TB, then kept growing it 1TB at a time. i originally had 2 TB on a Vista machine, but then decided to try linux... anyway... now i am sharing 6TB of media with the rest of the systems in my house (windows 7)
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Im still not 100% sure you can do a 'proper' ntfs filesystem check  with the ntfs tools.. it can flag the volume as clean. but thats not really checking anything.
[13:04] <geekphreak> i wont recommend it
[13:04] <menghan> Dr_Willis: I mean, I have a problem, but it involves both vim and gnome-terminal
[13:04] <g0r3_0f_g0d> true , the progs are really for mounting
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> azlon:  i have several TB. but i  dont merge them into a single raid. :0
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> menghan:  state the actual problem and let the channel help out/decide what the issue is
[13:05] <g0r3_0f_g0d> it involves vim and gnome-terminal , sounds kinky :)
[13:05] <azlon> Dr_Willis: why not? i thought a raid would be better since it provides some safety for drive failures
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> azlon:  depends on what sort of raid you are using.
[13:05] <nsp> I am reading a documentation on how to instal skype and it says that people who have amd64 can't use skype repositries to instal skype through package management. Why is that?
[13:05] <BRc> 8tb?? got any spare???
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> azlon:  i have a 'stack' of exteranl usb hd's :)  a 'redundant stack of usb drives' -> RSOUB :)
[13:06] <viliny> Hey, what was the release date for lucid? and what was the channel to discuss this again? :)
[13:06] <azlon> BRc: no, no spares but i have some on the way
[13:06] <h00k> viliny: ubuntu+1
[13:06] <BRc> great
[13:06] <menghan> gnome-terminal become chaos after vim quit in a directory which contains non-ascii char
[13:06] <geekphreak> !lucid | viliny
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> I just pick up 1 and 1.5 TB drives when i find them on sale..  next is moving to 2TB disks
[13:06] <ZykoticK9> nsp, skype was removed from medibuntu anyways (just download from the site, is only way to install now)
[13:06] <viliny> thank you h00k and geekphreak
[13:07] <Nanashi> What's the best way to convert a Colour PDF to a Greyscale PDF?
[13:07] <geekphreak> np
[13:07] <menghan> chaos, I means several block chars, totally chaos
[13:07] <azlon> g0r3_0f_g0d: ok, so i installed ntfs-3g (already installed) and ntfs-config but i still get "fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found"
[13:07] <mrp> whats the best way to backup my home directory on schedule basis? avoiding cmd line hopefully :D
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> !backup
[13:07] <mrp> to a usb and/or ssh and/or smb share
[13:08] <BigRedS_> azlon, you need ntfsprogs IIRC
[13:08] <nsp> ZykticK9 : I will but from what i understand that way i wont be able to get updates though which kind of sucks
[13:08] <mrp> !sbackup
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> mrp:  'rsync' is a handy tool to learn about.
[13:08] <hateball> !info ntfsprogs | azlon
[13:08] <ZykoticK9> nsp, skype isn't in any default repo... no other option
[13:08] <IdleOne> mrp: grsync is a GUI for rsync
[13:08] <azlon> BigRedS_: i already have ntfsprogs, and i thought i could do a ntfsck but it isnt implimented in the package
[13:09] <azlon> BigRedS_: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsck
[13:09] <francesco_>  	/msg PoRnAzZi|032 XDCC SEND #17
[13:09] <azlon> bah! he left...
[13:09] <azlon> hrmm
[13:10] <mrp> Dr_Willis: yeah i know about that but its too manual :D
[13:10] <azlon> hateball: what part of ntfsprogs would i use to do a chkdsk?
[13:10] <hateball> azlon: you could try ntfsfix
[13:10] <mrp> Dr_Willis: I just want to back my laptop to my 5TB NAS
[13:10] <azlon> hateball: already tried it... it shows my errors but doesnt fix them
[13:10] <hateball> azlon: but really.. I'd use windows to handle large/important ntfs data
[13:10] <hateball> azlon: whats the issue?
[13:10] <nsp> ZykticK9 : No, but there is an official skype repository. I was just curious why it said that in case you have amd64 it wont work?
[13:11] <azlon> hateball: i would love to, but this is a 8TB fake-raid... will windows see the raid?
[13:11] <azlon> hateball: i just grew my 6TB RAID-5 to 8TB. now when i try to extend the fs to the full 8TB it tells me i need to run chkdsk /f in windows
[13:11] <gilligan_> azlon: fake-raid as in lvm raid or bios fake raid ?
[13:12] <azlon> gilligan_: mdadm
[13:12] <gilligan_> azlon: why on earth do you use ntfs for it ?
[13:12] <geekphreak> azlon,  there is one more thing you can do
[13:12] <azlon> uh oh, im afraid to ask
[13:12] <geekphreak> azlon,  there are some boot disk for windows which can read ntfs and have checkdsk option, you can try those :)
[13:13] <azlon> geekphreak: i though about that, but will they recognize the RAID?
[13:13] <azlon> i thought only linux would recognize the fake-raid
[13:14] <g0r3_0f_g0d> azlon , this is not really ubuntu problem now , chkdsk /f will only really fix stuff under windows
[13:14] <g0r3_0f_g0d> the fsck version can only mark certain things wrong not fix them
[13:14] <geekphreak> azlon, they should, i am not 100% sure though
[13:14] <azlon> i have other windows machines, can i run chkdsk over a network?
[13:14] <ctmnz> hello all
[13:14] <IdleOne> !windows
[13:14] <g0r3_0f_g0d> nope , the chkdsk only works with local drives
[13:15] <ctmnz> I have problem with text mode installation screen while i'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 9.10
[13:15] <azlon> hrmm
[13:15] <geekphreak> ctmnz, what error , can you specify?
[13:15] <pelon> Hey guys! How do I get my USB headset to work on skype? Do I need to remove pulseaudio and replace it with something else?
[13:15] <ctmnz> my screen flickers
[13:15] <azlon> g0r3_0f_g0d: well how can i get fsck.ntfs working?
[13:16] <g0r3_0f_g0d> lemme see
[13:16] <geekphreak> screen flickr ctmnz?
[13:17] <BlaDe^> hi buyd
[13:17] <geekphreak> ctmnz, it happens when you are working also or just during ubuntu install?
[13:17] <ctmnz> geekphreak, it starts to flicker after the first menu.. when I choose 'Install ubuntu'
[13:18] <g0r3_0f_g0d> 	
[13:18] <g0r3_0f_g0d> man-page for "ntfsfix" dated January 2006, taken from ntfsprogs 2.0.0
[13:18] <g0r3_0f_g0d> This web-page was last updated: 2009-01-27, 09:17 (GMT+1)
[13:18] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Name
[13:18] <g0r3_0f_g0d> ntfsfix - fix common errors and force Windows to check NTFS
[13:18] <FloodBot4> g0r3_0f_g0d: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <pelon> how do i install alsa?
[13:18] <ctmnz> geekphreak, it happens only when i try to install ubuntu... i have tested with centos boot disk and it doesnt flickers
[13:19] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis, on normal cd there is an option to work with lower graphic during install right?
[13:19] <g0r3_0f_g0d> azlon , the thing is called ntfsfix , it is a part of ntfsprogs
[13:19] <Superbest> hello
[13:20] <g0r3_0f_g0d> azlon , i'd suppose you just sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb or something
[13:20] <g0r3_0f_g0d> sdXX to be acurate
[13:20] <geekphreak> or if anyone can confirm IdleOne
[13:20] <g0r3_0f_g0d> the link to the manual : http://man.linux-ntfs.org/ntfsfix.8.html
[13:21] <g0r3_0f_g0d> i'd not really get my hopes up
[13:21] <Superbest> what does the file command do and can someone run it for me on a small image?
[13:21] <ctmnz> my video controller has only DVI output
[13:21] <ZykoticK9> Superbest, "file" in a terminal will tell you what type of file it is
[13:22] <Superbest> ZykoticK9, even if the extension is wrong?
[13:22] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, yeah , it does analyze the file
[13:22] <ZykoticK9> Superbest, linux doesn't care about file extensions - reiles on output of file instead
[13:23] <Superbest> ok, I don't have linux installed right now and I need to run it on an image file
[13:23] <ZykoticK9> Superbest, i'd imagine it's on the LiveCD
[13:23] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, elaborate on that concept , if you already know it's an image why try to discover it's an image
[13:25] <Superbest> g0r3_0f_g0d, it was output by the mac's screenshot command thing, so it's an image. I don't know how to open it on another system tho
[13:25] <BigRedS_> Oh, an image as in a picture?
[13:25] <g0r3_0f_g0d> right , clicking open in thing like photoshop , regardless of extension will try to discover the image type
[13:25] <BigRedS_> OSX has   file   doesn't it?
[13:25] <BigRedS_> to find out what image format it is?
[13:26] <g0r3_0f_g0d> in windows if the extension is not registered you can manually force it to use paint or stuff
[13:26] <g0r3_0f_g0d> and screenshots of macosx are usually .png type afaik
[13:26] <azlon> ok, let me do some math here... i have an 8TB raid where I am only using 6TBs... that means 1 for redundancy... 5TBs, i can shrink the volume down to 6TB again, take out the extra 2, copy 2 TB of data to the drives, then shink it again and keep doing that until i have all the drives seperated and running normal... then start building the raid back up 2 drives at a time, but this time with an etx fs
[13:26] <Yum|---> hello everybody...
[13:27] <azlon> my only question is can windows easily access etx fs? i need all of my other machines in the house to be able to access the media on this raid
[13:27] <g0r3_0f_g0d> azlon , another dead end tunnel windows don't like ext2|3|4fs
[13:27] <erUSUL> azlon: make it aviable via samba
[13:27] <ZykoticK9> azlon, ext2/3 probably, ext4 no
[13:27] <BigRedS_> azlon, are all the machines accessing it through scsi/ide/sata?
[13:27] <erUSUL> !samba | azlon
[13:28] <BigRedS_> if it's over the network, it doesn't matter what the filesystem on the disk is, 'cause the other machines aren';t interested in that
[13:28] <Superbest> g0r3_0f_g0d, BigRedS_, I tried opening in photoshop and paint tho, didn'T work
[13:28] <g0r3_0f_g0d> can it be that the file is simply scrambled
[13:28] <g0r3_0f_g0d> but the best is really to run a file agains it
[13:28] <g0r3_0f_g0d> you're right
[13:28] <BigRedS_> azlon, If they are (i.e. you're unplugging the disks, going over to the other machine, plugging them in), you're doing it wrong and should be using something like samba or nfs
[13:29] <diogo_> hihh
[13:29] <linx|> BigRedS_: not necessarily
[13:30] <linx|> but in this case probably, agreed
[13:30] <BigRedS_> linx|, in general, then
[13:30] <Superbest> g0r3_0f_g0d, also possible
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[13:31] <g0r3_0f_g0d> just to see what sort of crap is it really Superbest , can be packed or something
[13:31] <azlon> sorry, went to the bathroom
[13:31] <g0r3_0f_g0d> or summa totally different
[13:31] <Superbest> g0r3_0f_g0d, packed?
[13:31] <g0r3_0f_g0d> not even an image like
[13:31] <azlon> BigRedS_: all the machines access this ubuntu machine through the network... im not sure if i answered your question correctly
[13:32] <g0r3_0f_g0d> i dunno really , you tell me what sort of thing is it , how did you get it and what do you expect it to be , Superbest
[13:32] <Yahweh> azlon, you're really sorry that someone addressed you while you were discharging or evacuating human waste?
[13:32] <g0r3_0f_g0d> if photoshop fails with it's huge library of compatible image formats then i dunno of any better choice
[13:32] <nmvictor> is their a way i could unlock my Huwaei modem in linux?
[13:33] <azlon> Yahweh: there were 5 people that addressed me... i feel if i'm looking for help i should stick around for a reply
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Yaweh: might have had a bath too ;)
[13:34] <geekphreak> Superbest, you on mac right?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> G0r3_0f_g0d: could use imagemagick to convert the images
[13:35] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, what file command does it runs through the file header and try to compare to the default signatures
[13:35] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, normally even if the extension is wrong it will try to tell you the file type
[13:35] <g0r3_0f_g0d> if you're on a a mac the file command is available there too
[13:35] <Superbest> geekphreak, no. A mac created the file, but I don't have access to a mac right now
[13:36] <geekphreak> yes it is
[13:36] <sab> before starting my ubuntu it was giving me some msg like "broken file;can not be wirte";i was trying to delete some thing from my home folder but i cant,i got a crash prog??what happened?i m a new user and using lucid; can anyone please help me?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | sab
[13:37] <geekphreak> sab, #ubuntu+1
[13:37] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, what os are u on now
[13:37] <Superbest> windows
[13:37] <Superbest> xp
[13:37] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, sorry we're getting back to the beggining when you asked if anyone could run file against it
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Sab: if you are a new user I strongly advise karmic as it has far far fewer issues. Lucid still has lots of glitches and will do a while after release too
[13:37] <sab> geekphreak, i already asked on ubuntu+1,but no one was responding
[13:38] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, I'd but behind a firewall can't accept files
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Sab: lucid is not discussed here
[13:38] <g0r3_0f_g0d> any takers
[13:38] <Superbest> I have the files uploaded
[13:38] <Superbest> http://www.mediafire.com/?tuwnwwmhket
[13:38] <jeremy> #fife
[13:38] <Someguy77> how do you use bluetooth in ubuntu?
[13:38] <gst-kaps> i am getting initramfs while booting ubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:38] <Someguy77> for file sharing?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Sab : install karmic and you'll have loads less issues
[13:39] <sab> i had problem with karmic for dual boot
[13:39] <gst-kaps> Getting initramfs while booting ubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Someguy77: there's a bluetooth manager for ubuntu. The word "use" is a little vague
[13:39] <sab> ActionParsnip, i had problem with karmic for dual boot;i was always facing grub failure problem ;then i installed lucid
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Sab: did you md5 test the karmic iso?
[13:39] <MrKeuner> hello, Karmic installation on my laptop does not suspend when the laptop is inactive for some minutes. How can I debug the problem?
[13:40] <rumpsy> gst-kaps: maybe system crashed
[13:40] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, sorry the sites like that won't open on mine , the proxy and stuff stops it all , I'm supposed to be a good boy :P
[13:40] <sab> ActionParsnip, what is md5 test?
[13:40] <Superbest> ah
[13:40] <MrKeuner> it suspends fine when I tell it to
[13:40] <g0r3_0f_g0d> ask arround
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | sab
[13:40] <gst-kaps> rumpsy:how to fix that ? i am able to boot in live cd
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Sab: you are using untested data to install, bad images make bad installs
[13:41] <jongbergs> !hi
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Sab: I'm guessing you never checked the cd for defects once booted to also..
[13:41] <rumpsy> !initramfs | gst-kaps
[13:41] <ZykoticK9> Superbest, are those screenshots?  "file Bild 120" just show as "data" i'm affraid
[13:42] <sab> ActionParsnip, i m new and i just installed,dont really know what to do
[13:42] <gst-kaps> rumpsy: ?
[13:42] <Superbest> ZykoticK9, yes, taken on a very old mac
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Sab: read the guide, its not a case of new, its the common sense to check the data you use before you use it
[13:42] <ZykoticK9> Superbest, they aren't an Image that linux understands
[13:42] <Someguy77> how do I connect to a bluetootht device, I open up bluetooth preferences and click on my phone and click on the bluetooth icon and nothing happens????
[13:43]  * g0r3_0f_g0d is enjoying direct tweeting from panel in Lucid
[13:43] <rumpsy> gst-kaps: once i got this prob, i reinstalled it, without checking forums, but you don't do reinstallation without search about this in forums
[13:43] <h00k> g0r3_0f_g0d: please use #ubuntu+1 for lucid discussion
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Someguy77: use the bluetooth app to scan for devices and you can set the pin, make sure your phone is discoverable. It will then pair
[13:43] <jongbergs> !initramfs
[13:44] <mcsmurf> hi, someone happens to know if customizing a 64 bit Ubuntu (alternate) CD with the UCK should work when using a 32 bit Ubuntu version?
[13:44] <zetheroo> hey, is Lucid Lynx ready? ... or not really?
[13:44] <gst-kaps> rumpsy:I did searched but isnt getting anything
[13:44] <h00k> !lucid | zetheroo
[13:44] <rumpsy> zetheroo: go for beta2
[13:44] <mcsmurf> I just tried this, but I got a bad md5sum error on the keyring package on installation
[13:44] <g0r3_0f_g0d> is the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade gonna bring my 9.04 straight up to lucid on the 29th then , I wonder
[13:44] <Someguy77> ok once the devices are paired then how do I use it?
[13:44] <rumpsy> g0r3_0f_g0d: i don't think so
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Mcsmurf: you can customise the 32bit iso in a 64bit ubuntu
[13:45] <g0r3_0f_g0d> i think the ext4fs might be an issue
[13:45] <mcsmurf> ActionParsnip: hm, I want it the other way round ;)
[13:45] <jongbergs> g0r3_0f_g0d: you need to upgrade to 9.10 before going into 10.04
[13:45] <uoobief> howto auto save IO of terminal as xx.log ?
[13:45] <gst-kaps> rumpsy:you suggets I reinstall ?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> G0r3_0f_g0d: you will need to upgrade to karmic first, then to lucid
[13:45] <g0r3_0f_g0d> hmm , time to think of a backup solution then, what about grub2 and ext4fs , is that not in a way of successfull upgrade
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Mcsmurf: it should be fine
[13:46] <mcsmurf> ActionParsnip: ok, I'll try again, maybe I had something else wrong..
[13:46] <rumpsy> gst-kaps: don't reinstall it without search for solution in ubuntu-forums
[13:46] <gst-kaps> rumpsy: I searched but no answers
[13:46] <gst-kaps> hence came here
[13:46] <geekphreak> g0r3_0f_g0d,  you can download the iso :)
[13:46] <dp_> I'm using lucid, and for the past 2 days, there've been no updates to packages via apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade; is that right?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Uoobief: command > xx.log
[13:47] <geekphreak> dp_,  #ubuntu+1
[13:47] <dp_> geekphreak: thanks
[13:47] <geekphreak> np
[13:47] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Ill just do clean install , need them 8Tb drives now of azlon
[13:47] <g0r3_0f_g0d> I'll fix'em here :P
[13:48] <uoobief> e.... : ]
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> G0e3_0f_g0d: just clean install and restore user data from backup
[13:48] <g0r3_0f_g0d> is that now default in the install process to detect extra ext fs drives with backup data on them or what
[13:48] <g0r3_0f_g0d> coz it asks me sometimes on karmic about some import stuff
[13:48] <g0r3_0f_g0d> never paid attention
[13:49] <geekphreak> huh?
[13:49] <rumpsy> gst-kaps: if not go for reinstallation
[13:49] <gst-kaps> rumpsy: any idea how to restore grub , I mean I tried
[13:49] <gst-kaps> rumpsy: but unable to get
[13:49] <mrp> whats a good tagging program? for mp3s
[13:49] <gst-kaps> rumpsy: it work
[13:49] <znxtch> I know this isnt the place but I'm deperate and the Amarok channel doesn't know.  I'm using Ubuntu Karmic Koala.  Amarok 2.2.0 the EQ is greyed out.  Does anyone know how to fix this or why it is greyed out?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> G0r3_0f_g0d: you will need to restore data manually. If you have a seperate /home partition you can just format the / partition and reinstall but tell the installer to automount the home partition as /home
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: does it happen for all users?
[13:50] <znxtch> Umm, I don't know I'm the only user.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: you can ask about amarok here
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: you know what I'm going to say next don't you
[13:51] <znxtch> make another use and try it?
[13:51] <znxtch> *user
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Yep
[13:51] <znxtch> I don't know how to do that I suck.
[13:51] <znxtch> lol
[13:51] <znxtch> I'll google it.
[13:51] <h00k> !enter | znxtch
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | znxtch
[13:52] <znxtch> Also is it a common pratice to have a user account to test things like this>
[13:52]  * znxtch is new to Linux.
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: depends on the person who owns the system. I do but some don't
[13:52] <Nihil_Baxter> anybody familiar with solid state disks and their controller?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> !ot | nihil_baxter
[13:54] <znxtch> Okay I'm going to switch users and try
[13:54] <znxtch> I'll let you know
[13:54] <mrp> how do i add to a gnome panel if i can find any blank space to right click?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: if its ok then its your account, if its bad then its a bug
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Mrp: add -> new panel
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> mrp:  some times ya got to click real real real carefully.. :)
[13:55] <hppapotica> enough people in this channel? lolz
[13:55] <mrp> ActionParsnip: where?
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> hppapotica:  its a slow day.. come in on release day
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Mrp: right click a blank bit of desktop
[13:55] <geekphreak> mrp,  you can reset your panel to default too
[13:55]  * ActionParsnip dreads release day
[13:55] <mrp> geekphreak: how :D
[13:56] <geekphreak> !resetpanels | mrp
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> The release should be released when it's ready not because a date and time are reached
[13:56] <znxtch> ActionParsnip
[13:56] <hppapotica> yeah i bet it would be intense
[13:56] <znxtch> Okay tried it on another account its still greyed out.,
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: ok then its the system and not profile based
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: log a bug and/or find guides
[13:57] <bilalakhtar> in #gnome-media-player
[13:57] <BlaDe^> could anyone take a look at my kernel log i'm having issues with my wireless dropping after like 10minutes. the log is: http://pastebin.com/APF2pDmp
[13:57] <mrp> -thanks geekphreak
[13:57] <bilalakhtar> sorry sent that by mistake
[13:57] <geekphreak> mrp np
[13:57] <znxtch> How do I log bugs.
[13:58] <h00k> znxtch: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> !bug | znxtch
[13:58] <znxtch> Thank you.  Now I can atleast contribute something to the world!
[13:58] <znxtch> haha
[13:58] <znxtch> I bet I can generate bugs like a MOTHER!
[13:58]  * znxtch is good at breaking stuff.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: no problem, log a bug and things get fixed
[13:59] <znxtch> Now just before I go nuts
[13:59] <znxtch> Do I need a launchpad account or ubuntu account?>
[14:00] <znxtch> Isnt launchpad about to be tossed?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: doubt it
[14:00] <h00k> znxtch: tossed? no, and yeah, you'll need a launchpad account
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Blade^: my desktop does that but I use wired so blacklist ath5k so it doesn't stink the place up. Is there a bug logged?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Blade^: maybe there's a ppa with a later version
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Blade^: could be worth trying a lucid livecd just to see if its fixed there
[14:02] <david> hi guys
[14:03] <TheUros> hi .. someone know how i can view my home network in ubuntu in console? .. i connec to server with putty
[14:03] <Guest20823> I have slow loading ubuntu server
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Theuros: you can mount shared resources in command line
[14:04] <TheUros> how i do that ?
[14:04] <Guest20823> my apache server is loading slowly its pages how do i troubleshoot?
[14:04] <mgj> TheUros: you probably want to look into Samba and mounting shares
[14:05] <TheUros> isn't samba for sharing drives mounted on linux ? .. i mean .. i want to see all network with windows machines ?
[14:06] <TheUros> no i mean .. i want to see windows network
[14:06] <Hald> Howdy folks
[14:06] <BigRedS_> TheUros,  Samba's also for using Windows (SMB) networks with a *nix client
[14:06] <TheUros> aha thanx
[14:06] <BigRedS_> In the console it's smbclient you want to use
[14:07] <mgj> TheUros: http://www.google.dk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=mounting+windows+shares+in+linux+using+console
[14:09] <Hald> I use the gnome applet Invest every day. I love it except for one thing. I can't configure the default alternatives/options on the diagram windows. Anyone who could point me in the right direction, should I download the source code for the application and modify it?
[14:11] <queso> Is Jaunty's medibuntu package source no longer being supported?  Everytime I run apt-get update it gets stuck on it.
[14:11] <mgj> Hald: i think you'd have better response if you asked the authors of Invest instead of this general purpose channel
[14:12] <vadmeste> Hi. When I can't upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 using System/Administration/Update Manager... It doesn't check for new distro version..
[14:13] <FunkyWeasel> Good afternoon.  I am trying to set up eth1 as a local loopback interface on ip 192.168.xxx.yyy - but even though I've defined it in /etc/networks/interface and restarted networking the loopback is timing out.  I know this is possible because I have it running on  another machine.  But apart from editing /etc/networks/interfacing is there anything else I need to do?
[14:13] <Hald> mgj: Ok. I go and do that! Thanks
[14:14] <mgj> np. Good luck
[14:16] <sabator> What is the best software to setup a RAID5 with Ubuntu ? is it mdadm ?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[14:16] <Hariharakadan> vadmeste, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:16] <Hariharakadan> I hope that helps.
[14:17] <Zider> sabator: I don't know of any other way at all in linux to set up RAID5, so yeah..
[14:17] <urthmover> for some reason I can't seem to get "put monitor to sleep" after a certain time.  how do I go about fixing it?
[14:17] <urthmover> I'm on a Dell M6300 laptop
[14:17] <root_> hello all
[14:17] <urthmover> hello root_
[14:18] <root_> where are you from ?
[14:18] <urthmover> urth root_
[14:18] <mickster04> !ot
[14:18] <pookey> hi all - I'm missing teh toption to burn an iso to disk in my right click- anyone know what app is the defauly ubuntu one?
[14:19] <haavaros> Gnee problem: Record memory failure, Xnee failed due to bad data received from RECORD extension. Does anyone know what to do about this, except to despair?
[14:19] <mickster04> haavaros: sounds like a xnee problem to me?
[14:19] <Cornholio> pookey: brasero?
[14:20] <haavaros> mickster04: Yeah, gnee is just a frontend, so xnee problem is a more precise description. The problem is the same, though
[14:20] <urthmover> pookey: it is using Brasero through nautilus
[14:21] <TNA5000> Hi all, my time in ubuntu is worng, even tough I sent up to sync with an NTP server and my time zone is correct. Can anyone suggest something I can try?
[14:21] <micael> anyone that are good in x-server that can help me
[14:21] <csaba> what do you mean it's wrong?
[14:21] <pookey> thanks urthmover Cornholio , I'll insatll that.   used k3b in the past, but that means firing up a lot of KDE IIRC
[14:21] <Hariharakadan> !ask | micael
[14:21] <trijntje> how can I see how much of my tmpfs is in use?
[14:21] <csaba> df
[14:22] <TNA5000> csaba: well, it says it is now 3:19 am, and my timezone would make it 9:21 am
[14:22] <bartollil> hi all
[14:22] <micael> how do i change my x-server
[14:22] <csaba> then it's the time server's fault
[14:22] <trijntje> csaba: thats the best short awnser I ever had, thanks
[14:22] <mickster04> haavaros: well is ther enot a #xnee
[14:22] <csaba> change it to something else
[14:22] <micael> i am new in linux
[14:23] <TNA5000> k
[14:23] <mickster04> micael: what do u want to change?
[14:23] <mickster04> !details
[14:23] <micael> mickster84 my resolution
[14:23] <micael> mickster i only have 800x600
[14:24] <TNA5000> well, still wrong
[14:24] <csaba> micael:  and you want more?
[14:24] <sabator> Is it possible to setup RAID5 in mdadm with USB hard drive ? Need a procedure plz.  If the order of USB Hard Drive detecion change, what happen with the RAID ?
[14:24] <micael> i have a sis mirage 771 card and i have read someting about it
[14:24] <TNA5000> is there a way to force the server to sync and see if it actually is?
[14:24] <micael> csaba yes i like to have more
[14:24] <haavaros> mickster04: Oh, I wasn't aware of that, thank you
[14:24] <h00k> sabator: unless you have a RAID USB Controller, which I don't think exists, no
[14:25] <csaba> micael: System->Preferences->Display ?
[14:25] <mickster04> !tab | micael:
[14:25] <BluesKaj> sabator, I don't think raid is possible with a usb drive
[14:25] <micael> csaba that is only 800x600 and 640x480
[14:26] <mickster04> micael: check your driver is vesa (i think is=ts vesa)
[14:26] <cc4> hi.how can I place a command for sox to be executed on every boot?
[14:26] <csaba> micael: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[14:27] <TNA5000> csaba: changed time servers, but ubuntu still shows wrong time, same time as it did before. Maybe its not updating, is there a way to check if the sync is successfull?
[14:27] <sabator> How can we list harddrive connected to USB ? Can we see serial number of harddrive ?
[14:27] <micael> mickster it is vesa
[14:27] <micael> csaba nothing there
[14:27] <mickster04> micael: hmm..add the value manually then?
[14:27] <csaba> micael: sorry that worked for me, then I can't hlep
[14:27] <mickster04> micael: you should see a list of allowed values, just add more
[14:28] <micael> mickster i am sorry but i am new dont know how to do it
[14:28] <mickster04> micael: tab complete dude, and how do u know you are using vesa
[14:28] <Pici> sabator: see lsusb and sudo lshw
[14:28] <uoobief> howto auto record the all display of 'sudo apt-get upgrade' ?
[14:29] <csaba> TNA5000: well you can use a network sniffer but maybe that would be too drastic
[14:29] <csaba> which server do you use anyway?
[14:29] <mickster04> uoobief: have you tried sudo apt-get upgrade > text.txt
[14:29] <micael> mickster http://paste.ubuntu.com/419802/
[14:29] <TNA5000> kinda really drastic, I'll try a reboot first just to see if that works
[14:29] <mickster04> micael: !tab complete!
[14:30] <Pici> uoobief: look at the manpage for 'script'
[14:30] <csaba> TNA5000: yeah and set the time manually and see if it changes back to the wrong time
[14:30] <Guest29868> Hi all, can anyone hint me on how to configure a touch screen in ubuntu 10 (there was a nice config app in 9 under system and now its gone) the issue i have is up and down and left and right are confused if i drag my finger up and down it goes left and right and vice versa lol
[14:30] <micael> !tab complete!
[14:30] <TNA5000> csaba: good idea, I'll give that a shot
[14:30] <mickster04> !tab > micael
[14:31] <TNA5000> csaba: reboot did the trick
[14:31] <diadicic> Hello all, Doing some research on an in-house cloud.  Can anyone givel me an idea of what apps/services I could run on a cloud?
[14:31] <uoobief> i have tried 'command > a.txt'. but
[14:31] <mickster04> micael: what was that, try looking in /etc/X11/xorg.vonf
[14:32] <mickster04> xorg.conf*
[14:32] <csaba> oh ok :)
[14:32] <micael> mickster ok i will try
[14:32] <Pici> uoobief: if you run 'script output.txt' then run whatever commands you want, then type 'exit' everything that happened in between will be logged in output.txt
[14:32] <mickster04> micael TAG COMPLETE ALREADY!!!!
[14:32] <AzaToth_work> Is there reecently that the sata_sil24 modules has been removed?
[14:32] <csaba> lol
[14:33] <mickster04> TAB even
[14:33] <Pici> micael: Please press tab and complete the nick of the person that you are speaking to OR manually write out their entire name.  This makes it easier for people who are talking to you to know when you are replying.
[14:33] <gastly> hmm...I was wondering what's the difference between the packages 'linux-image-<version>-generic' and 'linux-image-<version>-386'?
[14:33] <Guest29868> Hi all, can anyone hint me on how to configure a touch screen in ubuntu 10 (there was a nice config app in 9 under system and now its gone) the issue i have is up and down and left and right are confused if i drag my finger up and down it goes left and right and vice versa lol
[14:35] <uoobief> i mean that if there are some interactive dialogs , could the dialog be displayed ? could they be recorded ?
[14:35] <micael> mickster04 is there more than /etc/x11/xorg.conf* that i have to write
[14:35] <james1892> hello
[14:35] <uoobief> thanks, i'll try
[14:35] <mickster04> Guest29868: you can proably install the deb file if it excists
[14:35] <james1892> where will my httpd.conf file be in ubuntu 8.04
[14:35] <james1892> ?
[14:35] <mickster04> micael: im not sure, i cant checl, there should be one there already
[14:35] <james1892> or how can i locate it
[14:35] <mickster04> james1892: thats an appache question i assume
[14:36] <Nightwolf> i read "how can i lolcat it" :)
[14:36] <erUSUL> gastly: 386 is for very old machines
[14:36] <Guest29868> mickster04, Is there a proper way to configure the touch screen like edit file and its done kind of thing?
[14:36] <james1892> mickster04 : whats the apache chat called? #apache?
[14:36] <gastly> erUSUL, oh, so I should go with a -generic one eh? I have a 32 bit processor
[14:36] <mickster04> Guest29868: iunno, alls i know is that if you could install the tool before you can n=know, just use the actualy deb file, i assume it exists...
[14:37] <Pici> james1892: On Ubuntu, we separate out the conf files, you'll find them in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[14:37] <mickster04> james1892: prolly, but the documentation is pretty clear, try /etc/apache/
[14:37] <erUSUL> gastly: yes
[14:37] <Guest29868> mickster04, Its part of a package that ive installed again but the icon isent put under system anymore
[14:37] <gastly> erUSUL, ahh ok thanks :)
[14:37] <erUSUL> !gneric | gastly if you want some historic references
[14:37] <erUSUL> !generic | gastly if you want some historic references
[14:37] <mickster04> Guest29868: well run it from terminal, remember tab complete is your friend
[14:38] <gastly> cool, I'll check that out
[14:38] <reefy> !lucid
[14:39] <reefy> yum :)
[14:39] <mickster04> !pm | uoobief
[14:39] <james1892> when i type /etc/apache2/httpd.conf i just get a file with 0 line
[14:39] <james1892> s
[14:39] <mickster04> james1892: try /var/apache2 ?
[14:39] <csaba> james1892: because all the config is spread out into many smaller files
[14:40] <mickster04> james, im pretty sure the documentation is pretty clear about this kinda thing
[14:40] <idlemind> is there a specific channel for 8.04.1 lts issues?
[14:40] <uoobief> ...i see
[14:40] <mickster04> james1892: what are you trying to do anyway
[14:40] <tomasz> james1892: config directives are in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[14:40] <csaba> james1892: try the /etc/apache2/sites-included/000-default, for example
[14:40] <james1892> I want to configure mod_deflate to compress css and js
[14:40] <h00k> idlemind: this is the channel for all supported releases, so you've found us
[14:41] <csaba> james1892: then copy from mods-available to mods-included
[14:41] <tomasz> james1892: httpd.conf is only a name for historical reason
[14:41] <idlemind> ty h00k
[14:41] <tomasz> james1892: modules needs to be linked in mods-enabled
[14:41] <idlemind> anyone know of a solid guide for custom compiling / installing the latest kernel source on ubuntu 8.04.1 lts
[14:41] <james1892> csaba: I have it allready compressing html
[14:42] <james1892> just need css and js too
[14:42] <Pici> james1892: Look at the appropriate conf file in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[14:42] <csaba> james1892: if you want to enable stuff, you need to copy or link files in mods-available to mods-enabled and then restart apache
[14:42] <csaba> and they will be automatically enabled then
[14:42] <Pici> csaba, james1892: a2emod should really be used for enabling apache2 modules.
[14:42] <csaba> apache is searching for mods-enabled/*
[14:42] <Pici> *a2enmod
[14:43] <csaba> what Pici said
[14:43] <JoshDreamland> is there a way to move the contents of all the directories in a directory to a new directory, without moving the directory names themselves?
[14:43] <james1892> where can i read up on this stuff?
[14:43] <csaba> !google a2emod
[14:43] <Ek|mu5> Hello all
[14:43] <mikhael> :D
[14:44] <csaba> the bot here sucks
[14:44] <JoshDreamland> for example, a/ contains folder b/ and c/. A separate folder, d/, is elsewhere. Can I move a/b/* and a/c/* to d/ without moving b/ and c/ and without knowing their names?
[14:44] <james1892> ive allready done the a2emod, i just need to make it compress css and js aswell as html
[14:44] <Pici> james1892: See https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[14:45] <h00k> csaba: the bot will not google for you
[14:45] <csaba> that's why it sucks
[14:45] <Pici> james1892: Okay, then if you look in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ you should have a .conf file for mod_deflate
[14:45] <Ek|mu5> I'm trying to install the latest totem from source, now configure raises an error about gstreamer-0.10 being an older version than what it requires. How do I go about resolving this? which repos should I point to? do I need to build these required packages myself?
[14:46] <james1892> this may be simple for you but i dont even know how to "then if you look in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/" what command do i use
[14:46] <e3hkl> how to install java in ubuntu 9.10
[14:46] <e3hkl> how to install java in ubuntu 9.10
[14:46] <ikonia> !java  | e3hkl
[14:46] <csaba> e3hkl: sudo aptitude search java
[14:47] <LzrdKing> crimsun: my sound is broken; can you help me?
[14:47] <joaopinto> cs278, sudo is not required to search for a package
[14:47] <joaopinto> ops, was for csaba
[14:47] <kp> hi how to join #django server from here
[14:47] <csaba> it can't hurt
[14:47] <ikonia> kp: /join #django
[14:47] <ikonia> kp: /join #freenode for irc advice/help
[14:47] <joaopinto> csaba, using sudo for something does not need it can always hurt :)
[14:48] <Pici> james1892: cd /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/       Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal for help using the shell
[14:48] <csaba> ikonia: it was probably a trap so people would type /join #django
[14:48] <ikonia> csaba: I don't see why
[14:48] <queso> Is Jaunty's medibuntu package source no longer being supported?  Everytime I run apt-get update it gets stuck on it.
[14:48] <joaopinto> Quan-Time, medibuntu is down for some days
[14:48] <ikonia> queso: their repos are down - they are not supported by ubuntu
[14:48] <Pici> queso: Their repository is currently down.
[14:48] <joaopinto> queso
[14:48] <james1892> pici: thanks and to anyone who helped:D
[14:48] <uoobief> Pici , thank u~
[14:49] <kp> ikonia, let me try freenode
[14:49] <queso> ikonia, Pici, joaopinto: okay, thank you. presumably they will be up again in the future?
[14:49] <joaopinto> queso, no idea, try their support channel :)
[14:49] <kp> kp: /join #django
[14:50] <csaba> I told you it's a trap
[14:50] <ikonia> csaba: it's not - please stop
[14:50] <ikonia> kp: you are getting advice in #freenode
[14:50] <ikonia> !register > kp
[14:51] <kp> ikonia, yes, ok i will. I am sorry I am disturbing
[14:53] <kunu_> hello
[14:53] <gcleric> howdy!
[14:53] <kunu_> shenme
[14:53] <kunu_> wo you zai shuohua ma
[14:53] <bartollil> /clear
[14:54] <kunu_> speak english?
[14:54] <uoobief> -_-kunu
[14:54] <kp>      /msg nickserv register stickler srinivasakp@gmail.com
[14:54] <sybariten> no
[14:54] <markl_> in pidgin, whenever someone logs on/off, or sends a chat, I get a little popup on my screen.  is there any way to disable this?
[14:55] <gcleric> kunu_: well if you want me to understand you ...yes.  =)
[14:55] <csaba> markl_: off topic
[14:55] <kunu_> 说中文？
[14:55] <daniskami> markl_: yes there is, it's in the preferences but I can't be bothered to find it for you now
[14:56] <kunu_> my english is very bad ................
[14:56] <Pici> !zh | kunu_ perhaps this can help
[14:57] <atila> can anyone redirect me to some info about adding/replacing a networkcard/driver.. using nvidias on ubuntu 10.04(im a complete beginner @ linux)
[14:57] <Pici> atila : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[14:57] <kunu_> oh  thanks
[14:57] <atila> ty
[14:58] <BluesKaj> atila, first of all join #ubuntu+1, since you are running 10.04
[14:58] <kunu_> exit
[14:59] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:59] <daniskami> markl_: or rather, it's the libnotify plugin
[14:59] <markl_> daniskami: so this is in pidgin, or is it part of the ubuntu desktop?
[14:59] <markl_> or other
[14:59] <zero> Hallo,mans
[14:59] <daniskami> markl_: part of pidgin, it's a pidgin plugin
[14:59] <daniskami> markl_: but several applications use these notifications
[15:00] <markl_> ok cool ty
[15:01] <digitalfiz> i have a computer that just started shutting down when ubuntu tries to boot and it wont boot from a cd anymore either. the whole computer shuts off. I've switched out the memory so its not that can anyone help? a windows 7 install disk boots all the way to installation i didnt go further because i want to fix ubuntu
[15:03] <steelnwool> updating from 10.4 beta to release should be trivial right?
[15:03] <sipior> steelnwool: yes.
[15:04] <steelnwool> word. will just install beta then.
[15:04] <Sandertje_> oke, this is my 5th crash in two days. i'm constantly getting white screen (?) of death after a few hours running ubuntu 10.04. It nearly always occurs when I do something with Firefox (open a tab, maximalzing the screen, etc). This is getting VERY annoying. Linux should be stable, not crash every few hours.
[15:04] <gcleric> digitalfiz: how far along in the boot process does it make it?
[15:04] <digitalfiz> gcleric, it gets to the screen where the progress bar starts then shuts off
[15:05] <sipior> Sandertje_: yes, final releases of Linux should be stable. 10.04 is not a final release.
[15:05] <digitalfiz> on newer ubuntu its the center icon glowing part
[15:05] <sipior> Sandertje: you want stable, run a released version.
[15:06] <gcleric> digitalfiz: this is a hail mary pass stab at this is your video card a newer one?  if yes is it's power connector connected?
[15:06] <h00k> !lucid | Sandertje
[15:07] <digitalfiz> gcleric, its on board video i checked to make sure all otheer connectors are seated well i even cleaned the case out just encase but it just started doing this last night. opened firefox and bam it shut off
[15:07] <lalalol> guys help!!!!!!!!!!! when i click the letter after the c in the alphabet, it oesnt isplay it an pauses my vlc player, help!!!!!!!!!!
[15:08] <BigRedS_> Go preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts and set something else as play/pause
[15:08] <BigRedS_> lalalol, ^^^
[15:08] <BigRedS_> (and clean your keyboard. Your '!' key appears to be sticky)
[15:08] <isolat3dsh33p> hi guys, need help about flash player for amd64 system. Anyone know where can I get the plugin for firefox?
[15:08] <digitalfiz> lalalol, make sure if its a laptop of a keyboard with a fn key that the fn key isnt stuck down also
[15:08] <lalalol> BigRedS_, i closed vlc and opened it again and it works normal now, i can type the d again
[15:09] <BigRedS_> digitalfiz, flashplugin-nonfree ? (that's what it used to be...)
[15:09] <BigRedS_> lalalol, Hm. Odd....
[15:09] <mgj> I was trying to help a friend over the phone the other day. He wanted to make a backup of his ntfs drive. He got it mounted, he could copy files from it - awesome. However, he got "permission denied" when trying to copy any files from the "Documents and Settings" folder. This seems very, very strange to me, anyone have any ideas? And btw, sudo did not solve it
[15:09] <lalalol> yh BigRedS_ , its solved tho, phew :)
[15:09] <digitalfiz> BigRedS_, nothings been changed on this pc in weeks really just normal updates
[15:09] <BigRedS_> Er, isolat3dsh33p, see the thing I pointed digitalfiz at... ^^^
[15:09] <lalalol> windows would prob require a reboot :D
[15:09] <digitalfiz> BigRedS_, oh nm :P
[15:09] <BigRedS_> Windows would always quite like a reboot
[15:10] <jrr> sometimes you can cheat by logging out or just killing explorer
[15:11] <h00k> !windows
[15:11] <isolat3dsh33p> BigRedS_, I just signed in. Can't seem to view previous messages. :/
[15:11] <digitalfiz> mgj, sudo usually solves that very odd
[15:12] <hwilde> is there a channel for open office ?
[15:12] <sabator> Pici: Thanks
[15:12] <BigRedS_> isolat3dsh33p, flashplugin-nonfree ? (that's what it used to be...)
[15:13] <sabator> Can we use hdparm on USB Harddrive ?
[15:13] <isolat3dsh33p> BigRedS_, that thing suck. You can't pressed any youtube buttons if you installed. I solved this issue in my previous install. But I can't seem to remember how T_T
[15:14] <ScoobyDoo> When I try to format my external HD to Fat using mkfs.vfat, It says ''mkfs.vfat: /dev/sda1 contains a mounted file system.''
[15:14] <mgj> digitalfiz: very odd indeed
[15:15] <h00k> ScoobyDoo: so, unmount it
[15:15] <ScoobyDoo> It's defently unmounted
[15:15] <ScoobyDoo> sudo unmount /dev/sda1
[15:15] <ScoobyDoo> *umount
[15:15] <h00k> ScoobyDoo: do that to where it is mounted to, probably /media/diskdrivehere
[15:16] <Brimstones> sabator: sdparm --clear STANDBY -6 /dev/sda
[15:16] <Brimstones> sabator: Change /dev/sda...
[15:16] <ikonia> change a device file ?
[15:16] <ikonia> stopsign: you unmount a file system, not a device file
[15:17] <mgj> digitalfiz: very odd. Never experienced anything like it before
[15:18] <Chorupkata> whatup ?!
[15:18] <kieranc> sky
[15:18] <isolat3dsh33p> ikonia, do you know how to solve flash player for amd64? :)
[15:18] <Chorupkata> I wanted to ask .. how to optimize compiz?
[15:18] <ikonia> in what way solve it ?
[15:18] <BigRedS_> isolat3dsh33p, I was under the impression the version in the repos was now fixed? It's what I'm using (not right now, at home) with no issues
[15:18] <ikonia> Chorupkata: you don't need to optimise it, just use the correct/best supported graphics drivers
[15:18] <Chorupkata> flash player for x64 ..sux!
[15:19] <BigRedS_> Er, the Lucid package, though
[15:19] <ikonia> Chorupkata: it is mixed results for different people
[15:19] <iceroot> Chorupkata: the amd64 package is working much better
[15:19] <Chorupkata> ikonia, my graphic driver is loaded.. and still some windows take too much time to get focus..
[15:19] <iceroot> Chorupkata: but maybe you mean the amd64-32bit-wrapper called flashplugin-nonfree
[15:19] <ikonia> Chorupkata: what video card are you using ?
[15:19] <Chorupkata> nvidia.
[15:20] <ikonia> Chorupkata: and what model card
[15:20] <Zed`> !lts
[15:20] <isolat3dsh33p> BigRedS_, sorry. I forgot to tell that I'm using 10.04.
[15:21] <Chorupkata> ikonia, sorry my card was .. ati my other laptop was nvidia..
[15:21] <BigRedS_> Yeah, that's what I've got, and I'm fairly sure it's still flashplugin-nonfree. But I can't check, 'cause I'm ~15 miles from it at the minute...
[15:21] <ScoobyDoo> How do I mount an external HD, When I ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/Maxtor/ ' It mounts the my main drive that linux is on
[15:21] <Chorupkata> It's a laptop card...
[15:21] <mgj> isolat3dsh33p: you sure it is even possible to solve the issue? I remember something about adobe being very unwilling/slow to release a 64-bit flash plugin for linux for quite some time. Dunno if thats changed tho
[15:21] <ikonia> Chorupkata: the ati drivers are famously bad, as are the ati cards, you problem may be that simple
[15:22] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: you have to use the correct /dev/sdxx node
[15:22] <Chorupkata> ikonia, changing my video card is not a option :)
[15:22] <ScoobyDoo> erUSUL: How do I find out which one it is (mount) It isn't sda1
[15:22] <ikonia> Chorupkata: I appreciate that, but that is most probably the root of your issues (without more detailed investigation)
[15:22] <ThJ> I've got an Asus UX50V with a Nvidia G105M adapter that's listed as supported by Nvidia, but not getting detected: (EE) No devices detected.
[15:23] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: when you plug the disk in do « dmesg | tail »
[15:23] <ThJ> Works with plain nv driver, it seems, but I'd like 3D.
[15:23] <Chorupkata> ikonia, may be... i try many options.. and settings to speed up ..
[15:23] <Chorupkata> The main problem is when i try to call thunderbird .. .
[15:23] <Chorupkata> I take 2/3 sec to focus the window.
[15:23] <ThJ> I'm helping my girlfriend run Linux (her own idea) so any help would be appreciated. ;)
[15:23] <Exposure444> ytest
[15:23] <lalalol> WOOOW, my cpu is at 70% but not blowing a lot of air, and when its at 30% and a flash video plays, it blows air :S
[15:23] <Chorupkata> And many other windows .. take to much time.. to focus.
[15:23] <ScoobyDoo> erUSUL: appears to be sda2
[15:23] <isolat3dsh33p> mgj, I'm sure there a way to solve it. I solved it in my previous install which I accidentally deleted. I just forgot how to. I remember about some beta release for Adobe Flash 10 for amd64. But can't seem to find it. :(
[15:24] <Chorupkata> In Animations Focus/etc are set to 50ms
[15:24] <ikonia> Chorupkata: as I explaine it may just be a limiation of your card/driver combo
[15:24] <ScoobyDoo> erUSUL: Says I need to spefy a filesystem type to mount it
[15:25] <Kentrel> Is it possible to make a specific script file run automatically when I double click it, rather than giving them the option to run it or display it
[15:25] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: i dounb is in the same disk trhe system is in ? maybe is sdb ?
[15:25] <iammrtea08> morning
[15:25] <Chorupkata> ikonia, may be.. just searching for some solution.. anyway..
[15:25] <mgj> isolat3dsh33p: ah okay. Good luck then
[15:26] <isolat3dsh33p> mgj, haha. Thanks
[15:26] <ScoobyDoo> erSUL 'Tried sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /media/Maxtor '' I can see it's contents now
[15:26] <ScoobyDoo> Wow it's a 20GB drive, Not very good :-(
[15:26] <Brimstones> iammrtea08: mornin
[15:26] <Chorupkata> ikonia, btw... I'm very happy with my ubuntu installation on my laptop and work just fine.. and i loved some of the effect of the compiz that's why it's still working :)
[15:27] <mgj> My laptop is too old to handle compiz (or even gnome) =/
[15:27] <Chorupkata> mgj, huh :) what window manager are u using ?
[15:27] <mgj> fluxbox
[15:27] <mgj> its amazingly fast
[15:27] <Brimstones> mgj: Older then 300 MHz ?
[15:28] <mgj> nah
[15:28] <Brimstones> :)
[15:28] <mgj> 1ghz
[15:28] <mgj> but lacks ram..... so much
[15:28] <mgj> 256mb =(
[15:28] <Chorupkata> wow ..:P
[15:28] <Brimstones> mgj: Ah, the ram.. plus graphics card. Otherwise it should be semi ok :)
[15:28] <gooffy> nejaky Slovak tu je?
[15:28] <mgj> yeah probably
[15:29] <Juasjero> The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager  have not been installed correctly. Contact system administrator.
[15:29] <gooffy> resp. Slovenka?
[15:29] <Chorupkata> try, windowmaker.
[15:29] <mgj> i tried it a while back, didnt like it
[15:29] <emergion> Hello does anyone know of a good package I may be able to use to get a ruby development environment up?
[15:29] <Chorupkata> btw mgj, my editor take 256ram just to run ..
[15:29] <Chorupkata> :)
[15:29] <Brimstones> metacity doesnt require much ram either..
[15:29] <dekroning> i've turn my screensaver off and also the energy saver, but still after 20min of inactivity my monitor goes into standby mode, anyone that could let me know what else i can check? or verify? (i've checked settings on the monitor it self and they don't have a standby option)
[15:30] <Juasjero> Hi.  Anyone know how to repair this: The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager  have not been installed correctly. Contact system administrator ????????????????????????????
[15:30] <mgj> Chorupkata: imagine my pain when i have to use eclipse on the thing.... =/
[15:30] <Chorupkata> emergion, what u need ?
[15:30] <emergion> I am quite good with apache etc but I do not think its a good idea to configure everything from scratch every new release just so I can build some software
[15:30] <gooffy> SLOVAKIA???
[15:30] <erUSUL> !sv
[15:30] <erUSUL> !slv
[15:30] <emergion> Chorupkata, I would just like a web server with ruby happening out of the box
[15:30] <grifo74> i have problens in medibuntu repositori???????????????'''
[15:30] <Chorupkata> mgj, i use Komodo IDE 200ram~ in run time.
[15:30] <erUSUL> grifo74: known problem
[15:30] <Juasjero> Hi.  Anyone know how to repair this: The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager  have not been installed correctly. Contact system administrator ????????????????????????????
[15:30] <Chorupkata> emergion, sudo apt-get install ruby :)
[15:31] <Chorupkata> adn ruby on raills..
[15:31] <grifo74> don't actualize
[15:31] <Brimstones> Juasjero: Ask once and wait.
[15:31] <scunizi>  !repeat | Juasjero
[15:31] <emergion> Does ruby have its own server or something? I noticed some videos I watched he was starting something up?
[15:31] <Chorupkata> emergion, the ruby server is there.
[15:31] <genii> grifo74: If you check the /topic in #medibuntu channel it has a bug report in which some solutions are given
[15:31] <Juasjero> ok, Brimstones
[15:31] <erUSUL> Juasjero: reinstall the related packages ?
[15:31] <Juasjero> I have reinstalled
[15:31] <Chorupkata> emergion, yes the ruby web server for the rails is there.
[15:32] <Juasjero> I did "aptitude reinstall gnome-power-managment2
[15:32] <Brimstones> Juasjero: google "The configuration have not gnome power manager"
[15:32] <emergion> Chorupkata, hehe its funny I have read a few guides now none of them mention it? anyway ok ill try find it I thought that may be the case thank you very much
[15:32] <james1892> hwo do I edit my http headers?
[15:32] <Juasjero> I did, Brimstones
[15:32] <Juasjero> If not, I would not be here, Brimstones
[15:32] <Brimstones> checking
[15:32] <Brimstones> ok
[15:33] <Juasjero> Brimstones:, erUSUL, everywhere pleople has the same error, but I didnt saw any worth solution
[15:33] <Brimstones> Juasjero: Its turning up many results though
[15:33] <isolat3dsh33p> mgj, BigRedS_ ok, I found the solution. I get the flash plugin from here -> http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-ubuntu-64bit.html Works well so far ;)
[15:33] <Brimstones> Juasjero: Ok, ill try to find a reasonable solution
[15:34] <Kentrel> Hi, I'm running an opengl program through wine and it only loads in my second monitor. How do I make it apear in my main monitor
[15:34] <Juasjero> Brimstones: people suggest reinstall package or else do "dkpg reconfigure"
[15:34] <Juasjero> I did both without success
[15:34] <Brimstones> you can try to remove and reinstall the
[15:34] <Brimstones> offending package. ... ?
[15:34] <Juasjero> I did it too
[15:34] <Brimstones> rebooted ?
[15:35] <james1892> anybody know how I edit my http headers
[15:35] <Chorupkata> emergion, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[15:35] <Juasjero> rebooted, Brimstones
[15:35] <Juasjero> 3 times
[15:35] <Juasjero> at least
[15:35] <mgj> isolat3dsh33p: cool!
[15:35] <Chorupkata> Juasjero, what is the problem ?
[15:36] <isolat3dsh33p> mgj, indeed ^.~
[15:36] <Juasjero> Chorupkata: this is the problem:
[15:36] <Juasjero> Chorupkata: The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly
[15:36] <Brimstones> Juasjero: "chmod 777 /tmp"
[15:36] <Juasjero> I read that..
[15:36] <Brimstones> ok
[15:36] <Juasjero> Ill try it Brimstones
[15:37] <hwilde> is there a channel for open office ?
[15:37] <hwilde> is there a channel for open office ?
[15:37] <Juasjero> Brimstones: done and rebooting
[15:37] <Brimstones> ok
[15:37] <Pici> hwilde: #openoffice.org
[15:37] <Juasjero> I read that my error is related to some kind of update
[15:38] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p, did u try the flash player..
[15:38] <Juasjero> didn't work, Brimstones
[15:38] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, yeah. Works well so far. :)
[15:38] <Brimstones> Juasjero: Some people seem to reinstall the entire desktop. Dont do that ;) .. Better to learn how to deal with problems + you learn things about the underlying technologies.
[15:38] <Brimstones> ok
[15:39] <geekphreak> hello all
[15:39] <LzrdKing> well i think i fixed my audio error and if i did fix it, it was something realllllly stupid :P
[15:39] <Juasjero> Brimstones: perhaps this could work?
[15:39] <Juasjero> Brimstones: http://infoqueue.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/fix-for-gnome-power-manager-problem-in-fedora/
[15:39] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p, .. i'm not talking about speed but for functionality .. cause main sometime don't get the click events.. for example, the flash player of youtube.. is almost every time not working.
[15:40] <Juasjero> Brimstones: it says... "Then i deleted( use rm command to delete ) those bulkies to freeup the memory space.Then i restarted( shutdown -r 0) the system."
[15:40] <Brimstones> Juasjero: w8
[15:40] <Juasjero> ok
[15:40] <Guest12112> now fix kernel crash ?
[15:40] <kersurk> Hi
[15:41] <kersurk> Is tun already part of the kernel in Ubuntu?
[15:41] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, it doesn't fail on me so far. Functionality works.
[15:41] <kersurk> I need it to set up Hamachi.
[15:41] <CrOnOs__> can someone tell me where the list of modules that load on boot time are stored is not etc/modules i check
[15:41] <kersurk> running sudo modprobe tun reports: FATAL: Module tun not found.
[15:42] <Brimstones> Juasjero: priv ? ... id like to debug this if possible
[15:42] <Juasjero> Brimstones: some people suggest to edit Menu.lst in order to deactivate  the ACPI
[15:42] <Brimstones> Juasjero: Nooo :)
[15:43] <james1892> anybody know how I can edit my http/1.1?
[15:43] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p,  the link for the flashplayer 10 / 64bit on the tutorial that u posted... is not working ?from where u downloaded the tar.gz package?
[15:44] <Glowball> The hfsplus package "allows access to HFS+ volumes", does that include both reading and writing?
[15:44] <Pici> james1892: Maybe the apache support channel would be more appropriate: #httpd
[15:44] <digitalfiz> ok so i even changed out the power supply and ubuntu still shuts down at boot. ive tried new memory, new psu and versions 9.10(32bit and 64bit and 10.04 and all do the same thing
[15:44] <fleebailey33> anyone try booting ubuntu on the new macbook pro?
[15:45] <erUSUL> Glowball: writting is more than experimental afaik ( and no posible if the volume is journaled which is the norm nowadays)
[15:45] <Glowball> erUSUL: Mkay. But reading is safe?
[15:45] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, sorry, that's the outdated version I guess. I downloaded the plugin using the script from here. -> http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/install-native-64bit-flash-player-10-on-linux.html
[15:45] <fleebailey33> anyone try booting ubuntu on the new macbook pro?
[15:45] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. Can you recommend an instant messenger software which supports video and audio call at same time? Thank you.
[15:45] <erUSUL> Glowball: should be
[15:46] <Glowball> erUSUL: Ty. Just no writing then.
[15:46] <geekphreak> Turbolinux: empathy
[15:46] <Turbolinux> Geekphreak: How? With an extension?
[15:46] <digitalfiz> didnt know empathy has voice and video
[15:46] <idlemind> fleebailey33: i've ran ubuntu on a macbook pro for some time now ... just recently got a new hp computer
[15:47] <Guest12112> now fix kernel crash ?
[15:47] <Urda> Question: Is there an IRC channel for Landscape?
[15:47] <digitalfiz> dunno why anyone would run ubuntu on a mac lol thats like putting a v6 in a mustang
[15:47]  * ayam_jago ancoooorrr koneksiiiii zzzzzzz
[15:47] <erUSUL> Urda: /msg alis list *landscape*
[15:48] <Urda> Guess not :s
[15:48] <idlemind> so. i get an error when using KernelCheck to build and install a new kernel. the error i get is completely after compilation but rather during building the deb files it seems. the error is "The UTS Release version in include/linux/version.h does not match current version" anyone able to put in some thoughts?
[15:48] <geekphreak> it does say it support audio and video (cam),
[15:48] <Turbolinux> Geekphreak: Can you tell me the support method of the program?
[15:48] <Turbolinux> OK. I understand.
[15:49] <idlemind> digitalfiz: ubuntu runs very well on mac. i have 64 bit and all is well
[15:49] <csna152> hey does anyone know how to get Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop to start its eth0 interface when it first boots up? I tried adding it to the /etc/network/interface and put auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp but that doesnt seem to work. My problem is that if the machine is woken up remotely it wont start its eth0 connection while its on the login screen until any button on the keyboard is pressed. I would like to be able to remote into the machin
[15:49] <geekphreak> Turbolinux: think we are not on same page, sorry mate
[15:50] <Turbolinux> What did you mean Geekphreak?
[15:50] <LzrdKing> i had 64 bits but i lost a few; i'm down to 61 now
[15:50] <geekphreak> Turbolinux: i meant, i think i got your question wrong
[15:50] <ayam_jago> csna152, check the auto connect on eth0 network manager
[15:50] <mrp> how do i add add-apt-resp
[15:50] <padhu> csna152: are you tried sudo dhclient?
[15:50] <Guest12112> !kernel crash
[15:51] <Guest12112> !kernelcrash
[15:51] <Turbolinux> OK. That's not a problem.
[15:51] <csna152> yes im a dhcp client.. I mean 99% of the time i have the same ip address but that address is still in the dynamic range of the router so it could change at some point in time.
[15:51] <dak> or give it a static ip csna152
[15:52] <desdaja> Hello, how can i get my subwoofer working in karmic? The regular surround sound works, just not the sub. Thanks
[15:52] <ayam_jago> yes static ip :)
[15:53] <rampage73> anyone know how i can verify if iscsitarget is working?
[15:53] <rampage73> i cannot seem to find it with open-iscsi or windows iscsi initiator
[15:54] <guntbert> Guest12112: please provide more details
[15:56] <isolat3dsh33p> Turbolinux, I think it does support voice and audio call. But not for popular protocols. :(
[15:56] <epaphus> Hello. While installing openoffice.org it refuses to install 4 packages due to the following : Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/main openjdk-6-jre-lib 6b16-1.6.1-3ubuntu1  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[15:56] <epaphus> anybody know why>?
[15:56] <epaphus> or how to fix
[15:57] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p, i try it.. same shit :) my click events are not working :)
[15:57] <guntbert> epaphus: are you on lucid?
[15:57] <Turbolinux> I have to look for the suitable software a bit more time isolat3dsh33p.
[15:57] <guntbert> !language | Chorupkata
[15:57] <gpmanrpi> I am running lucid upgraded from karmic, and it seems to be crashing on the gdm login screen.  I can start x as any user except for one on my box and I think that might be part of the problem.  Any advice on where to look for what is causing the problem?
[15:58] <epaphus> guntbert, 9.10 .. i fixed it with apt-get update
[15:58] <guntbert> epaphus: ok :-)
[15:58] <isolat3dsh33p> isolat3dsh33p, too bad ;)
[15:58] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, too bad ;)
[15:58] <LzrdKing> i installed xvncserver which is a separate X server but i really wanted to install a vncserver that would let me see my existing X session
[15:58] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, did you remove old plugins and close firefox before you run the script?
[15:59] <isolat3dsh33p> *old flash plugins
[15:59] <Turbolinux> Can you recommend a messaging program which supports video and audio call at same time. AMsn doesn't support this two services in one call.
[16:00] <Turbolinux> Thank you.
[16:00] <Derick_BC_SC> algum brasileiro online?
[16:00] <Pici> !br | Derick_BC_SC
[16:00] <isolat3dsh33p> Turbolinux, there's none AFAIK
[16:01] <tomczy> #Poznan
[16:01] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p, yes..
[16:02] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p, i fix it..
[16:02] <Levex> Hello, I have some VOB files and I need to write it to a DVD, so that it can be played by any standard dvd player. :)
[16:02] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, so you solved your problem? :/
[16:02] <Levex> can anyone help?
[16:02] <LzrdKing> what vnc server doesn;t have gnome deps?
[16:02] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p, .. yep..
[16:02] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p, now is working pretty good..
[16:02] <industrial> Can I modify the NotifyOSD behaviour to NOT disappear when I hover my mouse over it? Ideally when someone signs on on Pidgin and I click (not not possible because the bubble hides) on the bubble it would open a private message with that person (or whatever the behaviour for that bubble/application would do..). Growl on OS X is a good example.
[16:02] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, nice ;)
[16:02] <Turbolinux> Does WLM Messenger work good with Wine software? Does video and audio call run fine with emulation?
[16:03] <g0shoe> guys
[16:03] <erkan^> daily = no safe?
[16:03] <erkan^> or development? :S
[16:03] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, post some tutorials for felow poor mates :D
[16:03] <g0shoe> is it worth moving to lucid?
[16:03] <arand> !lucid
[16:03] <ruadh> Hi.  Is it possible to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to Ubuntu 9.10 using the update manager?
[16:03] <padhu> Levex: use Brasero CD/DVD burner
[16:03] <Levex> padhu, it doesnt work as VIDEO neither do DATA work
[16:03] <guntbert> ruadh: no
[16:04] <guntbert> !upgrade | ruadh
[16:04] <ruadh> ah pity
[16:04] <isolat3dsh33p> g0shoe, I'm using the latest beta at the moment. Works fine with the graphics and no grand failure so far :)
[16:04] <arand> ruadh: doable in steps, make sure to backup first.
[16:04] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p, ... :) huh .. it's kind of a magic ;)
[16:04] <g0shoe> is it worth it though?
[16:05] <arand> ruadh: You will have to go through 9.04.
[16:05] <padhu> First your video play in linux. I mean plugin is needed
[16:05] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, haha. :)
[16:05] <Pici> !who
[16:05] <ruadh> thanks
[16:06] <jongbergs> joing #edubuntu
[16:07] <jshriver> greetings, anyone know when 10 will be out of beta?
[16:07] <h00k> !lucid | jshriver
[16:07] <jshriver> also how do you start the wireless network manager in gnome? that little icon in the top corner
[16:07] <isolat3dsh33p> g0shoe, yeah. Faster boot up, no authentication for mounting any drives, better disk utility, comes with most recent softwares etc... I think it worth it. Plus, it'll be released soon ;)
[16:07] <jshriver> ty
[16:08] <jshriver> been running 10beta for about a month or so and love it
[16:08] <Levex> my brasero freezes when I want to add VOB files to VIDEO projects @padhu
[16:08] <duffydack> !irssi > duffydack
[16:08] <g0shoe> isolat3dsh33p  i'm just reading some reviews
[16:08] <Brimstones> g0shoe: Lucid and the nvidia driver doesnt play nice atm. The nv driver is slow as hell. Other then that its working, but not more updated then 9.10 from what i can see.
[16:09] <padhu> Levex: Try it with k3b
[16:09] <g0shoe> it seems that people think thre new theme is a bit of a osx ripoff
[16:09] <h00k> !lucid | g0shoe, Brimstones
[16:09] <Levex> padhu: will try, thanks
[16:09] <inoh> hi, i am trying to use my tv as a monitor, but no matter what settings i use i am unable to get it to display properly.  I have a nvidia 8000M graphics card and a 42" samsung plasma tv. does anyone know how to do this
[16:10] <padhu> Levex: Burning softwares need plugin for vob, keep it in your mind
[16:10] <Levex> padhu: already installed 'em
[16:10] <isolat3dsh33p> g0shoe, that's not so important since you can always change the theme. In current Lucid version, you don't have to go to gconf to change the location of the window buttons ;)
[16:10] <avajesh> can anybody help me to configure my webcam on 9.04 desktop?
[16:10] <Pici> isolat3dsh33p: Please use #ubuntu+1 for Lucid discussion :)
[16:10] <padhu> Levex: That's good, let us try
[16:11] <g0shoe> isolat3dsh33p i see
[16:11] <isolat3dsh33p> Pici, haha.
[16:11] <CrOnOs__> avajesh:  what model webcam
[16:11] <Levex> padhu: I'm makeing k3b
[16:11] <padhu> avajesh: what is your problem?
[16:11] <avajesh> it is written Zippys on that.
[16:11] <fuso> ciao
[16:11] <fuso> !list
[16:11] <g0shoe> although, i wonder wether linux won't lose it's charm when it becomes
[16:11] <g0shoe> well
[16:11] <g0shoe> too easy to use
[16:11] <g0shoe> xD
[16:12] <padhu> Good, Levex :-)
[16:12] <isolat3dsh33p> g0shoe, there are still other distros ;)
[16:12] <g0shoe> ubuntu that is
[16:12] <g0shoe> true
[16:12] <avajesh> CrOnOs__?
[16:13] <avajesh> CrOnOs__ , it is a usb webcam.
[16:14] <CrOnOs__> avajesh:  you need to tell us what model of webcam you have so we can help you
[16:14] <isolat3dsh33p> avajesh, what software do you use for your webcam?
[16:14] <avajesh> nothing . i m trying with empathy
[16:14] <inoh> how do i configure an external display?
[16:14] <sudaya> avajesh: use lsusb in terminal
[16:15] <padhu> avajesh:  what about /var/log/messages says
[16:15] <avajesh> i am getting:   Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1b3b:2936
[16:15] <Levex> padhu: problem is, I don't have audio_TS neither video_TS
[16:16] <padhu> avajesh: If you are using webcam for video chat, then try GyarchE-improved
[16:17] <avajesh> my problem is: ubuntu is not recognizing it as a webcam
[16:18] <rezzy> what webcam is it?
[16:18] <terje> hi, how can I get to the grub menu when a system is booting?
[16:18] <avajesh> ressy, it is zippys webcam . id is:  ID 1b3b:2936
[16:19] <sudaya> avajesh: did u try with cheese
[16:19] <rezzy> cheese won't work
[16:19] <nytek_> rezzy: what wm are you using?
[16:19] <avajesh> wm?
[16:19] <guntbert> terje: press the right <shift>
[16:19] <CrOnOs__> google say it uses gspca driver yesterday i tryed help some one else same driver
[16:19] <rezzy> what wm ?
[16:19] <nytek_> you might want to try running it as root
[16:20] <Levex> padhu: problem is, I don't have audio_TS neither video_TS
[16:20] <nytek_> rezzy: wait
[16:20] <terje> thanks!
[16:20] <jahred> Hello all
[16:20] <nytek_> rezzy: is there are video0 in your /dev directory?
[16:20] <avajesh> i m using empathy and pidgin, skype.
[16:20] <CrOnOs__> but the package ubuntu has is a source that is obsolete for new kernel need a patch that i havent found
[16:20] <rezzy> nytek_: i did not ask a question mate, avajesh asked the question
[16:21] <padhu> Levex: after writing?
[16:21] <rezzy> i just said trying to test your webcam in cheese won't work
[16:21] <nytek_> avajesh: look at my message to rezzy lol
[16:21] <Levex> padhu: before
[16:21] <nytek_> rezzy: lol, sorry for the confusion.
[16:21] <rezzy> nytek_: its fine lol
[16:22] <terje> well, so I installed an update last night to my lucid system
[16:22] <lilik> #ubuntu-id
[16:22] <terje> and now it doesn't boot. :(
[16:22] <terje> I'm trying to get to the grub menu to boot another kernel
[16:22] <rezzy> but i am having some problems with java, once again tried installing it through terminal, but it is not working at all, might be an installation error
[16:22] <terje> I get to "Loading Grub"
[16:22] <terje> then it just stops booting
[16:22] <shrini> team: need help on nfs client
[16:22] <terje> any suggestions?
[16:23] <padhu> Levex: i think ffmpeg ugly plugin crashed. try apt-get update ffmpeg
[16:23] <rezzy> avajesh: what model is your zippy webcam mate?
[16:23] <shrini> my share is getting disconnected often.
[16:23] <avajesh> rezzy, no it is not there
[16:23] <Levex> okay
[16:23] <xente> hello...can someone explain to me why I can't recompile freeradius with openssl support? or how to get around that?
[16:23] <shrini> how to find the reason for NFS share getting disconnected?
[16:24] <avajesh> model is not written
[16:24] <rezzy> do you have a playstation eyetoy ?
[16:24] <alket> OpenOffice that comes installed by default in ubuntu is it java based ?
[16:24] <LzrdKing> shrini: i get "stale links" a lot
[16:24] <avajesh> no, rezzy
[16:24] <genii> alket: No, however, some parts of it do use java
[16:24] <shrini> LzrdKing: oh. what is mean by stale links? disconnected shares?
[16:25] <alket> genii: so why do i need to install jre ?
[16:25] <LzrdKing> shrini: i have no idea what it means
[16:25] <mgj> for those parts that use java? =P
[16:25] <genii> alket: See http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Java_and_OpenOffice.org for an in depth explanation
[16:25] <padhu> alket: yes.
[16:26] <shrini> LzrdKing: hmmm. any idea on finding the reason for NFS disconnection?
[16:26] <rezzy> avajesh: the id is defiantly a zippy but can't seem to find the model
[16:26] <Levex> padhu: done, not working still
[16:26] <padhu> Levex: what is your version?
[16:27] <avajesh> rezzy, then how to find the driver?
[16:27] <mikebeecham> can anyone help?  I've tried installing Kubuntu-desktop just to try it out, didnt like it and tried to remove it...I cant get rid of the bloody thing...it's messed up my booting splash screens, fonts etc
[16:27] <mikebeecham> help!
[16:27] <Levex> padhu: karmic
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> mikebeecham:  err fonts? it shouldent of messed up your fonts.
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> !puregnome | mikebeecham
[16:27] <mikebeecham> Dr_Willis: it messed up the fonts in Google Chrome
[16:27] <mikebeecham> made them all fixed width
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> mikebeecham:  odd.. I dont have the issue here.
[16:28] <padhu> mikebeecham: are you backed up your files or not?
[16:28] <rezzy> avajesh: you sure there is no model number under the webcam, on the wire ect?
[16:28] <CrOnOs__> avajesh:  why dont you try update-usbids maybe you can get more info on the model
[16:28] <mikebeecham> Dr_Willis: going to try that removal cmd
[16:28] <mikebeecham> padhu: nope
[16:29] <mikebeecham> I'm an adventurist :D
[16:29] <padhu> Levex: just try to update all audio and video plugins. The only problem is lib file contra. I faced it a year before.
[16:29] <avajesh> CrOnOs__, doing that. wait
[16:30] <padhu> mikebeecham: then what? restart your fresh installation ;-)
[16:30] <rezzy> i don't think there is a specific driver for your webcam
[16:30] <rezzy> anyway
[16:30] <rezzy> can anyone help me with a java installatio issue?
[16:30] <avajesh>  CrOnOs__, rezzy, not it is coming  ID 1b3b:2936 iPassion Technology Inc. PC Camera/Webcam controller
[16:31] <padhu> avajesh: are you having windows driver for webcam?
[16:31] <Levex> padhu: thanks for help, I'm gonna update my whole system
[16:31] <jongbergs> !wubi
[16:31] <avajesh> Levex, yes
[16:31] <mikebeecham> well at least I know I'm gnome through and through...dont think I need to go down the kde route again :D
[16:31] <mikebeecham> thanks guys
[16:31] <mikebeecham> brb
[16:31] <Levex> avajesh: what?
[16:31] <avajesh> yes , iam having windows driver
[16:32] <adityag1> name any pdf reader for 9.10?
[16:32] <padhu> Levex: good thing but it will take an little bit time. :-)
[16:33] <BigRedS_> xpdf?
[16:33] <genii> adityag1: xpdf
[16:33] <rezzy> avajesh: seems there is no drivers that i can find for you, do you have a built in webcam ? or any other webcam
[16:33] <Levex> padhu: of course
[16:33] <avajesh> it is a usb webcam.
[16:33] <padhu> adityag1:  ubuntu itself have an PDF file reader as default
[16:34] <adityag1>  padhu: i cant open a pdf file... so i asked here
[16:34] <avajesh> rezzy, i mean not built in
[16:35] <marko-_-> can you make ubuntus wallpaper make to change a background every hour or so
[16:35] <shrini> is it possible to get logs for NFS share mounts?
[16:35] <padhu> avajesh:  then try it with NDSwrapper
[16:35] <ryaxnb_> hi
[16:35] <avajesh> padhu, can u explain?
[16:35] <padhu> avajesh:  Just google for more detail
[16:36] <avajesh> k .thanks., padhu.
[16:36] <rezzy> avajesh: try typing this into terminal gstreamer-properties , click enter and see if you can see your webcam in that
[16:36] <Spoils> greetings
[16:36] <james1892> I want to add cache control without adding to .htaccess do i edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default?
[16:37] <padhu> adityag1:  you may use xpdf viewer
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> shrini:  most servers have settings to give different levels of logging into files in /var/log
[16:37] <nichos> hi all, anyone know anything about the WDGREEN HD's? I'm wondering if they're fast enough for HD content (mythtv)
[16:37] <mikebeecham> Dr_Willis: thanks for the heads up on removing Kubuntu...the only things that are still an issue are that 1) I still have the Kubuntu splash screen and 2)I cannot change the pointers back to default?
[16:37] <mikebeecham> help
[16:37] <cluelessnewguy> the greens are just as good as the blacks
[16:37] <shrini> Dr_Willis: yes. But, could not find anything for NFS
[16:37] <avajesh> rezzy, shall i paste the output here?
[16:37] <Kentrel> Hi, I'm running an opengl program through wine and it only loads in my second monitor. How do I make it apear in my main monitor
[16:37] <shrini> Dr_Willis: I am getting NFS shares disconnected often
[16:37] <cluelessnewguy> I have two of the latest blacks running RAID 0... they perform like dogs
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> mikebeecham:  like its a critical thing. :)  Theres proberly some command for the splash (i alwyas disable splash) and for the pointers.. use the gnome theme stuff to select some other pointers
[16:38] <shrini> Dr_Willis: want to solve it.
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> shrini:  ive never had much nfs problems. so cant help much more then to suggest the nfs wiki page.
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> !nfs
[16:38] <rezzy> avajesh: has gstreamer popped up
[16:38] <shrini> Dr_Willis: but, the server is pinging perfectly
[16:38] <mikebeecham> Dr_Willis: I'm trying the gnome theme stuff to change, but no option works :(
[16:38] <avajesh> rezzy, yes
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> shrini:  you are using NFS on a lan? or over the internet?
[16:38] <shrini> Dr_Willis: LAN
[16:38] <padhu> mikebeecham: are you have any other OS with it
[16:38] <shrini> Dr_Willis: only 10 machines
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> shrini:  ok. :)  over internet.. is not good idea.
[16:38] <genii> adityag1: Is your home directory someplace unusual? Evince has a bug relating to that eg: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910#Evince%20PDF%20viewer%20does%20not%20work%20for%20nonstandard%20home%20directories
[16:38] <rezzy> right
[16:38] <nino_> ciao
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> shrini:  Hmm. No idea really -  ive not used nfs on more then 2-3 machines.
[16:39] <shrini> Dr_Willis: :-)
[16:39] <Spoils> i am attempting to run the ubuntu netbook remix from a cd-rom drive (usb) on my gf's netbook without mounting the drive... i want to run it so i can then connect an external hard drive to get her vids, pics, and music off of the drive before mounting the hard drive with ubuntu... i downloaded it on another PC... the icon appears as a file you'd want to "unzip" should i just burn that to a disk and then try to boot her nedbook from the cd-rom (usb) drive?
[16:39] <rezzy> go to video
[16:39] <padhu> avajesh: not here use pastebin.ubuntu.com
[16:39] <rezzy> and test
[16:39] <mikebeecham> padhu: just gnome
[16:39] <shrini> Dr_Willis: okey
[16:39] <rezzy> avajesh: try changing the drop boxes to
[16:39] <gemilang> hello room, need some help. how to use camera in ubuntu 9.04?
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> shrini:  enable verbose logging, check nfs homepage for trouble shooting guides i guess
[16:39] <marko-_-> is there a way to make gnome change your wallpaper every hour or so
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> gemilang:  clarify more - what camera?  I just plug in my webcam and run cheese.. it works.
[16:39] <shrini> Dr_Willis: any links for nfs homepage?
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> shrini:  nope.  i only foolw that !nfs factoid for my 3 pc lan
[16:40] <avajesh> rezzy: default video input is:  "none"
[16:40] <gemilang> dr_willis, my webcam is plug n play but i dont know how to use it, any suggest
[16:40] <rezzy> avajesh: if you can provide me with a picture of you webcam i might be able to help more
[16:40] <rezzy> avajesh: via google images or something mate
[16:41] <padhu> mikebeecham: Are you tried single use mode or safe mode?
[16:41] <avajesh> rezzy, but i dont have a picture now.
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> gemilang:  i said.. i plug mine in.. and  use the 'cheese' program.. try that?
[16:41] <moreia> I have more of a Virtual Box question. Feel free to tell me I'm crazy. I installed Ubuntu on a Thinkpad. I actually have rescue disks, but didn't keep a windows partition. Can I somehow use the rescue disks to install Vista under Virtual Box?
[16:41] <mikebeecham> padhu: single
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> !info cheese
[16:41] <luismmontielg> hello, anyone here knows why I cant compile gnome-java examples, I've just installed via aptitude the libjava-gnome-java package
[16:41] <luismmontielg> its not on the classpath yet
[16:42] <gemilang> Dr_willis, i find cheese in update manager?
[16:42] <rezzy> avajesh: i think there are no suitable drivers as of yet, but i'm sure when a expert comes on they will be able to help you more
[16:42] <moreia> gemilang: you find cheese in synatpic
[16:42] <moreia> gemilang: sorry. Synaptic.
[16:42] <padhu> mikebeecham: single user mode
[16:42] <gemilang> moreia, okay thanks so much
[16:43] <avajesh> thanks to all.
[16:43] <mikebeecham> padhu: sorry but your english is confusing me?
[16:43] <avajesh> bye, rezzy
[16:43] <mikebeecham> i dont understand
[16:44] <rezzy> avajesh: sorry i could not help
[16:44] <Micheal`> whats a good download manager these days?
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> gemilang:  its either installed.. or in the package manager.. yes
[16:44] <Flare-Laptop> !best | Micheal`
[16:44] <Micheal`> didnt say best just a good one
[16:45] <padhu> Micheal`: wget, still i think
[16:45] <dacs> hi folks
[16:45] <gemilang> Dr_willis, my synaptic doesnt have "cheese", what should i do
[16:45] <moreia> gemilang: what version are you running?
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> gemilang:  what verson of ubuntu are you using?
[16:46] <gemilang> 9.04
[16:46] <moreia> gemilang: and cheese doesn't show up in synaptic?
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> No idea if cheese is avail for that or not.. or if theres a PPA for it.
[16:46] <gemilang> yes
[16:46] <jerry_> hey, i just did a fresh install of 9.10 karmic and cant get flash or wmvs to play again
[16:46] <dacs> i don't know what happen , but everytime i do apt-get i keep getting "could not connect ot localhost:9999 (127.0.0.1). -connect (111:connection refused {IP 127.0.0.1 9999}
[16:46] <moreia> Gemilang, Dr_Willis: it should be there: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=cheese
[16:46] <jerry_> im running 64 bit and i placved the libflashplayer.so into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ folder and also for wmv they play sound but no picture
[16:47] <moreia> gemilang: have you done some tweaking to your sources list?
[16:47] <moreia> seriously though folks: Vista on Virtual Box from Recovery Disks? Am I missing something?
[16:48] <geekphreak> arvind_khadri:  hi
[16:48] <gemilang> moreia, im not sure i do that, because my desktop used by many person in my house
[16:48] <geekphreak> rocket16: hey bud
[16:48] <rocket16> geekphreak: Hello, :)
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> moreia:  using  the disks a PC maker supplies to restore to virtialbox you mean?
[16:48] <sabator> Is it possible to configure mdadm to build RAID5 with USB HDD /dev/sda.. without automatically mount the RAID5 at system startup, identify USB Harddrive with sdparm, and if we restart the system and the USB detection order have changed, we can identify USB Harddrive again with sdparm, then remount RAID5 with mdadm and the proper HDD order for RAID to work ex: /dev/sdb1 /dev/sda1) ? or the order is only provided to mdadm at creation of
[16:49] <moreia> Dr_Willis: yeah.
[16:49] <ikonia> sabator: that's strongly not advised, the usb device will make it very very slow
[16:49] <rezzy> anyone help me with a java issue ?
[16:49] <gemilang> moreia, i have open your link, then what should i do?
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> moreia:  often those sets are for very specific hardware and some how detect/refuse to work on other hardware.
[16:49] <rocket16> rezzy: Sure, I'll gladly try,
[16:49] <Juasjero> The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager  have not been installed correctly. Contact system administrator.
[16:49] <jerry_> anyone know why avis would play sound but not picture in mplayer or vlc in ubuntu 9.10 x64 ?
[16:50] <rocket16> rezzy: What is the problem?
[16:50] <moreia> Dr_Willis: Argh. Okay. Thanks.
[16:50] <rezzy> rocket16: let me try it one more time, and ill tell you whats the problem mate
[16:50] <nimrod10> jerry_, do you have compositing on ?
[16:50] <rocket16> rezzy: Sure,
[16:50] <jerry_> nimrod10, not sure what you mean by compositing ?
[16:50] <moreia> gemilang: You probably want to pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:51] <nimrod10> jerry_, do you have compiz on ?
[16:51] <jerry_> i do
[16:51] <jerry_> running nvidia 8800 gtx with nvidia drivers
[16:51] <sabator> ikonia: I know for speed, my question is: is it physically and logically possible with Ubuntu and/or Linux ?
[16:51] <rezzy> rocket16: Reading package lists... Done
[16:51] <rezzy> Building dependency tree
[16:51] <rezzy> Reading state information... Done
[16:51] <rezzy> Reading extended state information
[16:51] <rezzy> Initialising package states... Done
[16:51] <FloodBot4> rezzy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:51] <rezzy> Writing extended state information... Done
[16:51] <jerry_> i tried disabled desktop effects though and still no picture
[16:51] <haavaros> I want to record and play mouse events. Record module in X is broken, so gnee/xnee and xmacro is too. Any other suggestions?
[16:51] <nimrod10> jerry_, try to turn compiz off (in the advanced settings) and the try again . This is just to rule this out
[16:51] <dacs> i don't know what happen , but everytime i do apt-get i keep getting "could not connect ot localhost:9999 (127.0.0.1). -connect (111:connection refused {IP 127.0.0.1 9999}
[16:51] <rocket16> rezzy: Friend, better to post on Pastebin or Codepad, and then give me a link,
[16:51] <geekphreak> rezzy:  plz use pastebin , for result :)
[16:51] <moreia> gemilang: per that list, Cheese should be in the standard repostitories since Hardy, (9.04 is Jaunty, i think) so if searching in Synaptic doesn't turn anything up the next step is to make sure the source hasn't been disabled.
[16:52] <lalalol> !ca
[16:52] <jerry_> advanced setings being compiz settings manager ? or something else ?
[16:52] <geekphreak> jerry_:  nvidia card ?
[16:52] <nimrod10> jerry_,  yes those
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> dacs: You perhaps have some sort of proxy setup.
[16:52] <jerry_> yes geekphreak
[16:52] <nimrod10> jerry_,  sorry
[16:52] <rocket16> rezzy: As far as I can see, no problem seems to be there,
[16:52] <padhu> sabator: Not possible
[16:52] <rezzy> rocket16: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419913/
[16:52] <moreia> gemilang: but: are you able to launch synaptic and search for other software to install?
[16:52] <nimrod10> jerry_, I meant there is a setting in appearance where you can turn compiz off
[16:53] <rocket16> rezzy: Thanks, let me see once, the problem details
[16:53] <jerry_> nimrod10, all i have is 3 different radio buttsonf ro diff levels of effects
[16:53] <geekphreak> jerry_:  you installed drivers from manf. site or ubuntu repos?
[16:53] <rezzy> rocket16: well when i go on a java aplication, chat room it wants me to install java
[16:53] <jerry_> ubuntu repos
[16:53] <nimrod10> jerry_, put on none
[16:53] <jerry_> added nvidia ppa repo
[16:53] <gemilang> moreia, yes i am able to do that
[16:53] <rocket16> rezzy: Is Java installed on your System?
[16:53] <Pici> !enter
[16:53] <g0aliath> if i plug in an external USB device and ubuntu does nothing about it (i.e. no "auto play" feature) what would be my next step in trying to access the usb mass storage device
[16:53] <Guest13331> may I ask a question?
[16:53] <moreia> gemilang: so then the next step is to look at sources.list
[16:54] <rezzy> rocket16: sorry for the inconvience seems its working now :/ cheers for the assistance though mate
[16:54] <jerry_> ok i set to none for effects and now play still same thing
[16:54] <geekphreak> !ask | Guest13331
[16:54] <jerry_> although the file has a screenshot of the video itself
[16:54] <rocket16> Guest13331: Sure, you are free to ask
[16:54] <gemilang> moreia, okay
[16:54] <rocket16> rezzy: My pleasure, :)
[16:54] <nimrod10> jerry_,  what type of file is that ? avi mpeg ?
[16:54] <lalalol> WTF is wrong with vlc!? it randomly sees certain keys as pausekeys, and vlc is minimized!
[16:54] <rezzy> just getting my head around linux again atm keep going back onto windows then back onto this
[16:54] <jerry_> xvid mpeg 4
[16:55] <jerry_> in avi container
[16:55] <moreia> gemilang: alternatively, you can look under Settings > Repositories in synaptic.
[16:55] <lalalol> !vlc
[16:55] <rocket16> Guest13331: So, what is it you want to ask?
[16:55] <Guest13331> ok... ubuntu 9.10... I seem to have lost tyhe maximize, minimize buttons on all windows and apps... I can also not drag to resize... how can I fix it?
[16:56] <gemilang> moreia,  hmm, repositories in synaptic. i will learn it first. okay
[16:56] <dacs> Dr_Willis: how would i change it
[16:56] <rocket16> lalalol: Friend, I have VLC too, but it can't play many VCDs (But DVD play nicely). So, I use GXine. Is there a way to get VLC Working?
[16:56] <nimrod10> jerry_, what application are you using to play it ?
[16:56] <jerry_> vlc and mplayer
[16:56] <dacs> Dr_Willis: prefernces>network proxy is set to connect direct to internet
[16:56] <nimrod10> jerry_, try smplayer
[16:56] <rocket16> Guest13331: Can you send a screenshot of your System? I suppose, your metacity encountered a problem
[16:57] <jerry_> what is weird though is i have another hard drive with ubuntu 9.10 i pulled from this machine while i was doing some testing and diid a fresh 9.10 install last night and now vids dont work
[16:57] <jerry_> installing smplayer though :)
[16:57] <Guest13331> will try :)
[16:57] <xiven> Where would I look at to learn about the Patching of Gtk/Qt by canonical?
[16:57] <nimrod10> jerry_, probably you don't have some codecs installed
[16:57] <rocket16> Guest13331: Use "Alt+F2", and type "gnome-terminal", then enter "sudo apt-get install openbox". After it is installed, use "openbox --replace" command
[16:57] <rezzy> my name is grey :(
[16:57] <rezzy> and writing :'(
[16:57] <chrisw1> what's the ubuntu package name for apache?
[16:57] <nimrod10> jerry_, have you been through the video menu from help.ubuntu.com ?
[16:58] <jerry_> not recently
[16:58] <jerry_> ill take a look
[16:58] <rocket16> rezzy: Are you using Pidgin or Empathy?
[16:58] <ikonia> rezzy: hello, welcome to #ubuntu, this channel is for discussing ubuntu related issues
[16:58] <lalalol> rocket16, what things dont work with vlc?
[16:58] <rocket16> lalalol: Only VCDs, :(
[16:58] <nimrod10> jerry_, because if smplayer, mplayer , vlc fail even with compiz off then it should be a codec problem
[16:58] <rezzy> im chatting on xchat, im just saying on this you have blue names , and black writing, i have grey lol :/
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> VCD's - old skool :)
[16:58] <rocket16> lalalol: So, I switched to GXine a few days ago,
[16:59] <lalalol> rocket16, what error do you get when you try to play lets say a movie or so
[16:59] <jerry_> nimrod10, im think i missed gstreamer ugly and bad
[16:59] <nimrod10> :)
[16:59] <rocket16> lalalol: Error says "Error opening media"
[16:59] <nimrod10> jerry_, is it working now ?
[16:59] <jerry_> nope
[17:00] <karstensrage> how do you find out whats listening on port 80 ? netstat -nap isnt showing an pid for the port
[17:00] <Shafiei> does anybody know, how to install eclipse.tar.gz in ubuntu
[17:00] <Shafiei> ?
[17:00] <Guest13331> my terminal comes up as a blank white box
[17:00] <xiven> Can anyone tell me where to learn to learn about Canonical's patching? There is soo much patching of Qt for example that it causes problems with a software I use.
[17:00] <Pici> karstensrage: apply sudo
[17:00] <Shafiei> i just extracted it! and donno what to do
[17:00] <h00k> Shafiei: sudo aptitude install eclipse
[17:00] <jerry_> i just tried "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" and it cannot connect to medibuntu
[17:00] <cyber-life> rezzy: Open Preferences, there select "Text box" and then, uncheck "colourise nicknames"
[17:00] <Pici> xiven: You may want to start in #kubuntu-devel
[17:00] <xiven> AHh
[17:00] <lalalol> rocket16, and do you have all the necessary drivers for your system?
[17:00] <xiven> ok
[17:00] <sabator> padhu: would have you said the same thing to Thomas Edison with his light bulb?
[17:00] <h00k> jerry_: medibuntu is down
[17:00] <Shafiei> h00k: i want to install it using .tar.gz!! how shall i?
[17:00] <jerry_> ahh
[17:00] <rocket16> lalalol: Yes, I do have. And Gxine seems to work fine
[17:01] <karstensrage> Pici: excellent thank you
[17:01] <Shafiei> i have it on hand!
[17:01] <karstensrage> fmsedge is what holding it
[17:01] <h00k> Shafiei: I'm not sure why you'd want to, but check their documentation, I suppose.
[17:01] <jerry_> what about flash 10 x64 version? I wget and moved to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and no flash support still
[17:01] <rocket16> Friends, very sorry. just now Cyber-life logged, and he is none but me, I just ran XChat one time. So, please don't consider it to be sockpuppetry.
[17:01] <rezzy> going to try and install eyetoy webcam
[17:01] <Shafiei> um! if i have a bin file! how can i make it to be shown in applications menu in gnome??
[17:01] <padhu> sabator: no. somebody,  ;-)
[17:01] <h00k> Shafiei: why don't you install the proper package?
[17:02] <Shafiei> because i dont have enough internet traffic
[17:02] <lalalol> rocket16, maybe the media you wanna play with vlc is corrupt, or does gxine play it?
[17:02] <rocket16> Guest13331: Ok, then use "Ctrl+Alt+F2", that is Virtual console
[17:02] <h00k> Shafiei: you will have to add your own menu entries
[17:02] <rocket16> lalalol: Yes, Gxine playes it nicely
[17:02] <lalalol> rocket16, lets pm
[17:02] <Shafiei> o0k. tnx
[17:02] <rocket16> lalalol: Sure,
[17:02] <h00k> !pm | lalalol, rocket16
[17:03] <jerry_> i even tried installing flash via plugin finder but no youtube or flash
[17:03] <rezzy> is it possible to make shortcuts on desktops, for example i have spotify but i have to run a code in terminal?
[17:03] <jerry_> rezzy, make a script and set it executable and should be able to run from desktop i believe
[17:03] <AoP|Boss> hey, any good pixel artists here?
[17:03] <rezzy> jerry: thanks never mind done it anyway cheers
[17:03] <ikonia> AoP|Boss: try #ubuntu-artwork
[17:04] <AoP|Boss> ok
[17:04] <AoP|Boss> ty
[17:05] <ninjai_> How does ubuntu behave with android phones? I know android is linux, but do they play nice together for adding music and stuff?
[17:06] <rocket16> rezzy: Or, you can make a new launcher there too
[17:06] <h00k> ninjai_: if you have a memory card, it's basically click/drag
[17:07] <rezzy> rocket16: ive just dragged the spotify from wine onto the desktop , seems to work
[17:07] <ninjai_> h00k: That's what I thought.  Just liek my precious Cowon D2... a mountable hard disk :D
[17:08] <dacs> i don't know what happen , but everytime i do apt-get i keep getting "could not connect ot localhost:9999 (127.0.0.1). -connect (111:connection refused {IP 127.0.0.1 9999}
[17:08] <rocket16> rezzy: O yes, :) After launching once, it will ask you, whether to mark it as Trusted or not. If you say yes, it will be a wine shortcut, :)
[17:08] <dacs> i can browse the net just fine thu
[17:08] <rezzy> rocket16: yup thats what ive done :) right brb going to try and install eyetoy webcam
[17:09] <rocket16> rezzy: Great, :)
[17:09] <sabator> Who is an EXPERT with mdadm and USB devices ?
[17:09] <rocket16> Guest13331: Friend, did that command work?
[17:09] <lukefeil> hi
[17:09] <rocket16> sabator: I am not, but I will try to help.
[17:09] <rocket16> !hi | lukefeil
[17:10] <rampage73> anyone know where i can get help with iscsi and ubuntu ?
[17:10] <axisys> how do I convert a SVG file to PDF ?
[17:10] <lalalol> is Wicd better than network manager?
[17:10] <rampage73> i mean is this the channel or is there a better onw
[17:11] <frxstrem> how do I install gtkmm in Ubuntu?
[17:11] <lukefeil> afaik, in 10.04 is no more HAL
[17:12] <lukefeil> when i upgarde from 9.10, does he work without HAL or is there a rest of it?
[17:12] <Brimstones> lukefeil: They are just renaming programs like HAL, UDEV etc
[17:12] <midijake> rocket16... I had to reboot.. I was here as Guest with the missing maximize buttons
[17:12] <rezzy> rocket16: do you know the shortcut, for gstreamer properties forgot :/
[17:12] <sabator> rocket16: I try to see if there is a way to create a RAID5, unmount, restart system, identify harddrives then re mount the RAID5 over USB.  idea or hyperlink are welcome ?
[17:12] <rocket16> midijake: Sure, no problem.
[17:13] <rezzy> its alt f something
[17:13] <rocket16> sabator: You can make a Start Up script for that, :)
[17:13] <Juasjero> The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager  have not been installed correctly. Contact system administrator.. Help.
[17:13] <rocket16> rezzy: I is "totem"
[17:13] <Juasjero> what hte...
[17:13] <Juasjero> SOLVED!
[17:13] <c3l> can someone recommend a nice tool for metadata and id3 tag editing? on multiple files etc
[17:13] <Juasjero> SOLVEDDDDDDDDDDD!
[17:14] <FloodBot4> Juasjero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <rezzy> but theres like a code like f12 or something
[17:14] <rocket16> rezzy: Oh, is that "Ctrl+P", try it once, :)
[17:14] <rocket16> rezzy: I think Ctrl+P will do the job, :)
[17:15] <rezzy> rocket16: no thats for a podcast lol, its a shortcut, where you can search for things to open
[17:15] <crucialhoax> Ctrl+O?
[17:16] <rocket16> rezzy: Oh sorry, I thought you might be telling about Internal properties of Gstreamer
[17:16] <moreia> c3l: there's a command line library. Other than that, I'll be curious to know what you find.
[17:16] <rezzy> rocket16: never mind got the eyetoy showing up in gstreamer, going to see if it will work in emesene
[17:16] <dacs> please could someone help me
[17:17] <rocket16> rezzy: Sure, :) If that doesn't, you can try aMSN too, :)
[17:17] <crucialhoax> !ask | dacs
[17:17] <rocket16> dacs: Sure, what is the issue?
[17:17] <c3l> moreia, you mean to edit tags? theres got to be loads of them out there?
[17:17] <dacs> i don't know what happen , but everytime i do apt-get i keep getting "could not connect ot localhost:9999 (127.0.0.1). -connect (111:connection refused {IP 127.0.0.1 9999}
[17:17] <rezzy> rocket16: works in emese xD
[17:17] <rezzy> emesene
[17:18] <rocket16> rezzy: Nice, :)
[17:18] <MauL^> what should I do to escape new line character after <%= %>
[17:18] <moreia> c3l: So then what are you looking for. I guess I'm confused.
[17:18] <MauL^> and before..
[17:18] <crucialhoax> dacs: try ping 127.0.0.1
[17:18] <rocket16> dacs: Oh, did you try "sudo apt-get" command?
[17:18] <rezzy> good times x] thats me nearly sorted, just my right speaker :L
[17:18] <dacs> rocket16: ^^ yeah
[17:18] <rocket16> dacs: Oh,
[17:19] <rocket16> dacs: I think a recent Package failure might be the reason.
[17:19] <rocket16> dacs: Then, try looking at Synaptic, and check out whether broken packages are there or not.
[17:20] <yaaar> howdy
[17:20] <dacs> rocket16: 9999 is my proxy server port ...but
[17:20] <c3l> moreia, I want to edit metadata on mostly mp3's and flac's, the id3 tags and such..
[17:20] <crucialhoax> dacs: `sudo apt-get check`
[17:20] <dacs> prefernces>network proxy is set to connect direct to internet
[17:20] <morou> hi
[17:20] <rezzy> anyone got call of duty 8-)
[17:21] <moreia> c3l: the package that didn't make me tear my hair out was just called id3 (I looked)
[17:21] <dacs> crucialhoax: apt-get check sucessful
[17:21] <c3l> moreia, sounds great, thanks alot
[17:21] <clotterm123> hi. i want to install ubuntu on a server. the only problem is that i just have a monitor via telnet, so i'm quite limited on the displaying of sth. does anybody know how to avoid the splash-options of the ubuntu installer?
[17:21] <morou> how I can punt programs to autostart under console? I must put some lines in /etc/rc.locale?
[17:21] <moreia> c3l: it is command line,  though.
[17:21] <moreia> c3l: don't thank me so fast :P
[17:22] <SpamapS> clotterm123: ubuntu server's installer is text only IIRC.
[17:22] <moreia> c3l: seriously, though, i found that it was more straightforward to do what I wanted with the cli tool.
[17:22] <c3l> moreia, haha :D well even though command line is what I mostly prefer I dont know when it comes to browsing around and editing multiple files ..
[17:22]  * SpamapS ponders firing up virtualbox attached to virtual serial port and minicom to test that theory
[17:22] <rocket16> I tried python gdm setup, and changed my Login screen. Is there a way to get it back? Should I reinstall GDM Login screen there?
[17:23] <clotterm123> SpamapS: well, yeah, but i can't get any response in my telnet window of my remote host
[17:23] <clotterm123> it just sasy "boot:"
[17:24] <SpamapS> clotterm123: I assume this is via some sort of server management device?
[17:24] <clotterm123> SpamapS: yes
[17:25] <MauL^> what is the way to escape new line characters whenever I use <%= %>
[17:26] <cc4> hi. how can I enable a amiga paraller port joystick on ubuntu?
[17:26] <duleep> when file move to my usb pen drive ubuntu will stack
[17:27] <lifestream> Not really ubuntu specific but I thought someone might know. I have many recipes I want to save to my disk, from a blogspot site. It doesn't have printer friendly page though, so whenever I print to PDF, it prints EVERYTHING. How can I force it to printer friendly?
[17:27] <dacs> crucialhoax: any tip please
[17:27] <cc4> can anyone help me please
[17:27] <sabator> If the BIOS don't detect properly big harddisk, can we use a DiskManager to see 1TB HDD even on oldest computers, any others tools on Linux ? Can we load it before the Kernel, if we want to install Ubuntu on the big drive ?
[17:28] <moreia> lifestream:  if you want to get snazzy you can write local CSS to hide what you don't want to look at.
[17:28] <lifestream> moreia: Hmmm..... ?   :P
[17:28] <duleep> anybody know what i do for this file moving problem
[17:28] <bigga> why are all my apps showing up as UNAUTHENTICATED now when i try and install them
[17:29] <Ven]n> any of you familiar with supergrubdisk? im able to boot from the right partition (windows), but im unable to fix mbr
[17:29] <duleep> i can't copy big file in to usb pen drive
[17:29] <bigga> did the russian business network plan to sell my family into building siberian railway lines
[17:29] <rocket16> bigga: Thats because your System does not have Multiverse enabled
[17:29] <duleep> machine will get shuck to
[17:29] <maddhat> Hey everyone,  trying to get ubuntu server karmic netboot working but it says it cant find the ethernet driver.  any way to manually add it to the boot img?
[17:29] <rocket16> duleep: Is there enough space on the pen drive?
[17:29] <duleep> rocket: yap
[17:30] <moreia> lifestream: or ... try the RSS view? http://foo.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default?alt=rss
[17:30] <cc4> how can I enable a amiga paraller port joystick on ubuntu?
[17:30] <bigga> rocket16, am i missing a pgp key or something
[17:30] <cc4> help please
[17:30] <duleep> but file system may be windows]
[17:30] <rocket16> bigga: Might be, but the thing is, do you have Multiverse enabled?
[17:30] <dacs> !sourceslist
[17:31] <Roasted_> This may be a dumb question, but one I want to try my luck at anyway. I installed the Ambiance theme on my 9.10 machine via PPA. I edited it and zipped it to a tar.gz. Is it normal for me to have problems with it since technically it wasn't "installed" on the 9.10 machine? OR should dropping the tar.gz on the Appearance window be enough to technically install it?
[17:31] <rocket16> bigga: Open Software Sources from System menu, and check all available options
[17:31] <bigga> $ fgrep -i multi sources.list | wc -l
[17:31] <bigga> 9
[17:31] <coz_> Roasted_,  dropping it in should install it
[17:31] <lifestream> moreia thanks a lot, good idea with RSS!
[17:31] <rocket16> Roasted_: I think no problem will be there,
[17:31] <coz_> Roasted_,  did you get the ambiance fixed theme or the regular one with the buttons on the left?
[17:31] <eax> HI there. Can someone tell me how use three monitors in Ubuntu? TwinView only supports two (obviously) but I want to use all my three screens at the same time. I have 2 Nvidia cards and 3 monitors.. Is this possible?
[17:32] <bigga> and what do you know
[17:32] <bigga> no multiverse in synaptic
[17:32] <Roasted_> coz_, the one with the buttons on the left. I prefer the left-adjusted theme much more than right now that I'm used to it. The only thing is, that theme was originally installed via PPA... so I was wondering if there was a difference there between dropping tar.gz I modified or using the straight PPA
[17:32] <bigga> why'd that happen
[17:33] <coz_> Roasted_,  ok  and did it indeed install?
[17:33] <rocket16> bigga: No problem, just select the boxes in Software Sources, it'll work,
[17:33] <dacs> so two people offer to help but not helping me ...hmmmm
[17:33] <sabator> Is it possible to create ext4 partition on 8.04LTS or I need to wait for 10.04 LTS ?
[17:33] <coz_> bigga,  in synaptic   hit  Settings /Repositories
[17:33] <coz_> bigga,  in the first tab  "Ubuntu Software"  tick all 5 boxes and multivers is one of them
[17:34] <rocket16> dacs: Sorry, but the answer is not known to me.
[17:34] <bigga> rocket16, they are all ticked
[17:34] <Roasted_> coz_, well, I did get an error message about something... ubuntu-mono-dark isnt installed, or some garbage. This was a FRESH install of 9.10. Updating it now.
[17:34] <coz_> bigga,  if they are all ticked then you have multivers
[17:34] <bigga> and source code
[17:34] <doxy2> hi
[17:34] <rocket16> bigga: Oh nice, in terminal type "sudo apt-get update"
[17:34] <bigga> then... why the JOOZ ARE NOT AUTHENTICATED messages
[17:35] <coz_> doxy2,  welcome
[17:35] <duleep> anybody triable with file coping with usb
[17:35] <doxy2> i'm running 9.10, can anyone here explain me why i2c-core module isn't available?
[17:35] <rocket16> duleep: Use the terminal, with cp command,
[17:35] <eax> HI there. Can someone tell me how use three monitors in Ubuntu? TwinView only supports two (obviously) but I want to use all my three screens at the same time. I have 2 Nvidia cards and 3 monitors.. Is this possible?
[17:35] <coz_> lunchtime  be back in a bit
[17:35] <doxy2> for either kernel( kernel 2.6.31-{14,20} )
[17:36] <duleep> i'll now try that
[17:36] <rocket16> bigga: I suppose, it will work.
[17:36] <odie5533> when I go to install xubuntu-desktop, it says it's going to remove ubuntu-desktop. Is this okay to do?
[17:36] <bigga> cant even remember what i wanted to install now
[17:36] <eax> odie5533: Yes :)
[17:37] <rocket16> odie5533: I don't think so, because both DEs can exist simultaneously
[17:37] <odie5533> eax: Will I still get all the right packages for ubuntu when I update?
[17:37] <eax> odie5533: I would think so yes :) But better to leave it be installed I think!
[17:37] <odie5533> since I think ubuntu-desktop is used to coordinate the ubuntu updates
[17:38] <caution> how do I upgrade python from 2.5 to 2.6 from the console?
[17:38] <crucialhoax> odie5533: If you want xfce as you default with no other options then yes, that is fine. However it is possible for both to coexist
[17:38] <erUSUL> caution: karmic has 2.6 by default.
[17:38] <caution> how do I do it in 8.10?
[17:38] <odie5533> crucialhoax: When I mark xubuntu-desktop for install, it won't let me unmark ubuntu-desktop for uninstall.
[17:38] <rocket16> caution: Just use "sudo apt-get install python2.6"
[17:39] <msaadn|Away> Hey guize, my friend wants to know if there is a way to determine when a file was deleted in linux. Is it possible?
[17:39] <caution> rocket16: E: Couldn't find package python2.6
[17:39] <BlacKnight> hey guys, I got lm_sensors working,. but i have to   "sudo modprobe xxxxxx" everytime i boot to make it run.... do you know how to make it automatic ?
[17:39] <crucialhoax> odie5533: Hmm.....
[17:39] <crucialhoax> BlacKnight: Put the command in the rc.local file
[17:39] <dacs> so crucialhoax what do you think the problem is , i can ping google and browse the net
[17:40] <erUSUL> msaadn: how would you know the file was even there if it was deleted ?
[17:40] <crucialhoax> BlacKnight: Or put it in the `Startup Programs` menu :)
[17:40] <rocket16> caution: Ok, go to this link: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=python2.6
[17:40] <erUSUL> msaadn: i do not understand the question
[17:40] <msaadn> erUSUL, He knows.
[17:40] <disappearedng_> Hey I am doing patch -p0 < patchfile: Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? does this mean it will reverse or what?
[17:40] <BlacKnight> crucialhoax: thanks i'll take a look :D
[17:40] <crucialhoax> dacs: Ok, have you tried ping 127.0.0.1?
[17:40] <rocket16> caution: And download the deb package, which will install Python
[17:40] <crucialhoax> BlacKnight: No problem :)
[17:40] <msaadn> erUSUL, A file was deleted from the system. He wants to know when it was deleted.
[17:40] <sabator> Do we see SATA, SCSI, and USB harddrive with the same device name beginning with /dev/sda... ?
[17:40] <otswim> hello, i have a program which is running, i would now like to stop it and shutdown my computer; is it possible to get back the computation to the point where it stopped and continue afterwards?
[17:40] <grendal_prime> hey guys..i accidently assigend a password to the root user
[17:40] <dacs> crucialhoax: yes and it pings
[17:40] <erUSUL> msaadn: no possible; afaics
[17:41] <grendal_prime> i want to remove it so it is back to the default config for ubuntu "no root login basically"
[17:41] <rocket16> otswim: Sure, just Hibernate the Cmputer
[17:41] <otswim> rocket16: but i need to shut it down
[17:41] <crucialhoax> dacs: Okay... Have you tried `sudo apt-get update`? because if proxy settings are default as in Direct Connect, it should not be looking at the proxy sever.
[17:41] <msaadn> erUSUL, alright Thanks.
[17:41] <caution> what's 8.10's code name?
[17:41] <rocket16> otswim: But Hbernate will do the same job, shutting down.
[17:42] <rocket16> caution: Intrepid Ibex
[17:42] <otswim> rocket16: i want to boot on another OS; can i do that if i hibernate?
[17:42] <grendal_prime> what is an ibex?
[17:42] <rocket16> otswim: Hmm, then probably you can't.
[17:42] <dacs> crucialhoax: yes i did and i get the same issue
[17:42] <Kentrel> Hi, I'm running an opengl program through wine and it only loads in my second monitor. How do I make it apear in my main monitor
[17:42] <crucialhoax> dacs: When you go to update manager, click on settings, what is the download server?
[17:43] <otswim> rocket16: i thought maybe there is a program that save the current state of the stack of the program, and then restore it somehow when we want
[17:43] <rocket16> grendal_prime: It is a Deer-like animal, checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibex
[17:43] <rocket16> otswin: Yes, there is, just go to startup applications in Preferences in System
[17:44] <maddhat> Hey everyone,  trying to get ubuntu server karmic netboot working but it says it cant find the ethernet driver.  any way to manually add it to the boot img?
[17:44] <dacs> crucialhoax: server for us
[17:44] <rocket16> otswim: Now, go to "Options" Tab, and check the box, and select the button below
[17:44] <rocket16> otswim: Got the process, friend?
[17:45] <polydeuces> Hey all, I broke my internet! (using live demo on the flash drive right now) is there a way I can download the packages for a network manager and transfer them over? I tried installing the network manager debs listed on the archives, but I didn't have the permission to open it (even after chmod and all that)
[17:45] <otswim> rocket16: i'm sorry i'm on kubuntu
[17:45] <crucialhoax> dacs: Hmm.. In the network proxy preferences, what is in the ignored hosts?
[17:46] <polydeuces> I'm a noob and I was just trying out different network managers... if someone could help me I'd really appreciate it :D
[17:46] <dacs> crucialhoax: localhost, 127.0.0.1/8 and *.local
[17:46] <rocket16> otswim: Sorry, I don't know much about the process in Kubuntu, :( But this might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibex
[17:46] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: What do you need help with?
[17:46] <rocket16> otswim Very sorry, I meant http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267505
[17:46] <crucialhoax> dacs: Ok, that is good.
[17:46] <polydeuces> I need to install a network manager on my kernel that doesn't have internet
[17:46] <cc4> hi
[17:46] <caution> thanks rocket16
[17:46] <cc4> how can I execute a script in ubuntu?>
[17:46] <cc4> ?
[17:47] <rocket16> caution: M pleasure, :)
[17:47] <polydeuces> I tried already getting the deb packages from the ubuntu archives, but they didn't seem to work
[17:47] <crucialhoax> cc4: double click it lol
[17:47] <cc4> doesnt work
[17:47] <cc4> or from terminalo
[17:47] <cc4> terminal. no outoput
[17:47] <crucialhoax> cc4: Is it executable/
[17:47] <cc4> do I need to change any attributes
[17:47] <mickster04> cc4: sh bla.sh
[17:47] <cc4> don't know let me see
[17:47] <cc4> does it have to have the .sh extension?
[17:47] <grendal_prime> how do you get rid of the  password for root on a system?
[17:47] <rocket16> cc4: Try using "chmod +x file.extention" command to make it execytable
[17:47] <crucialhoax> cc4: No it does not. Thank you rocket16
[17:48] <mean67> anyone ever use UEC?
[17:48] <otswim> rocket16: but then the program will start at login, but it won't start from the point where it stopped; i think i'll just save the state of the program manually
[17:48] <rocket16> crucialhoax: My pleasure to do a little help, friend, :)
[17:48] <haavaros> watch -n 30 <command> only runs the command (albeit correctl)
[17:48] <rocket16> otswim: Yes, sorry, I don't know about the process in KDE,  :(
[17:48] <haavaros> watch -n 30 <command> only runs the command (albeit correctly) once. What is wrong?
[17:48] <otswim> no problem, thanks
[17:49] <rocket16> See you all again, respected users and members. Bye.
[17:49] <crucialhoax> dacs: What about sudo apt-get -f install -f`?
[17:49] <crucialhoax> Cya
[17:49] <kokozedman> hey guys,
[17:50] <kokozedman> is there a HTTP proxy that connects to the outsie world through SOCKS5 proxy?
[17:50] <cc4> can I add more joysticks to js0?
[17:50] <cc4> I want to add an amiga paraller port one
[17:51] <dacs> crucialhoax: all zeros
[17:51] <mean67> so no one has set up a cloud server yet?
[17:51] <crucialhoax> dacs: Okay, so how about if we try `sudo apt-get update` again?
[17:52] <dacs> samething
[17:52] <gmatt> what file do i edit to change the default language?
[17:53] <cpbtklogic> sphOAE010
[17:53] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: So the machine does have internet access or does not?
[17:53] <polydeuces> Well, I'm using a startup USB flash drive
[17:54] <polydeuces> right now, for internet
[17:54] <cc4> can someone tell me how to use this please : http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~vojtech/joystick/
[17:54] <polydeuces> but the kernel installed on the computer does not
[17:54] <cc4> how to compile or something
[17:54] <cc4> for ubuntu
[17:54] <cc4> pleaseee
[17:54] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: Ok. check in /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:55] <haavaros> Isn't watch supposed to run a command repeatedly? When I do e.g. watch ls -l it goes once, then stops
[17:55] <polydeuces> crucialhoax: okay, but I'm a total noob. can you tell me what I should be looking for?
[17:55] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: On the live usb image, the network manager package might be in there, copy it, then place it on the machine that does not have int access.
[17:55] <polydeuces> okay, awesome. thanks!
[17:55] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: Are you in that folder>
[17:55] <crucialhoax> ?
[17:56] <polydeuces> I am now
[17:56] <polydeuces> crucialhoax: the only packages I see are for pidgin (which I'm using right now)
[17:56] <abysse> hi I have a proxy list in a text file I would like my ubuntu to connect to each one do something and then switch proxy and repeat is there a good soul to help me
[17:56] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: Nothing there is for networkmanager?
[17:56] <Pici> cc4: If you're running Ubuntu then you already have the joystick module available. There is no need to compile this.
[17:57] <polydeuces> crucialhoax: unfortunately no, there are no packages at all other than the pidgin ones.
[17:57] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: On the live usb image?
[17:58] <polydeuces> crucialhoax: yes, on the image.
[17:58] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: Wait a minute, I may have a solution lol
[17:58] <polydeuces> okay :)
[18:00] <cc4> hey can someone help me please
[18:00] <haavaros> Is watch supposed to execute commands repeatedly, or have I misunderstood? When I do 'wathc <command>' it executes it once, then does nothing. Not even quit
[18:00] <cc4> /home/cyclinder/Desktop/joystick-1.2.15
[18:00] <cc4> oups
[18:00] <Pici> haavaros: its supposed to execute it repeatedly, is the time changing in the upper right hand corner?
[18:01] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: On the live usb image you are running. In a terminal type `sudo apt-get -d network-manager network-manager-gnome`
[18:01] <llutz> haavaros: default every 2 seconds
[18:02] <Pici> cc4: The page that you linked is very outdated.  It describes a module that is already part of the kernel distribution.  If you're using Ubuntu then you already have it available, you do not need to compile anything.  use: sudo modprobe joystick   to insert the module.
[18:02] <polydeuces> crucialhoax: this is what I'm getting:
[18:02] <polydeuces> E: Invalid operation network-manager
[18:02] <haavaros> Pici: Yes, the timer changes
[18:02] <Pici> haavaros: Then the command is being re-executed.
[18:02] <guntbert> haavaros: look in the right upper edge, there the time should update every two seconds
[18:02] <egc> ok, easy question, any references in particular regarding flash on 64-bit?
[18:03] <administ1ator> how to install clamav 0.96 on ubuntu 9.10? on there web site they give direct download button for windows installtin. but no clear instructions for linux installtion
[18:03] <administ1ator> please help
[18:03] <cc4> Pici: yes but I have no more than js0 . how can I create the extra devices please
[18:03] <guntbert> haavaros: sorry, I'm too late :-)
[18:04] <guntbert> administ1ator: you install it like any other software (with you favourite package manager)
[18:04] <egc> i'll answer my own question :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[18:04] <guntbert> *your
[18:04] <cc4> Pici: bash command not found
[18:04] <Artopal_> Hi! Anyone using freetalk for jabber?
[18:04] <dacs> crucialhoax: any other thoughts
[18:05] <polydeuces> crucialhoax: any idea why that error message is occurring?
[18:05] <Pici> cc4: What command did you run?
[18:05] <cc4> Pici: when sudo modprobe joystick
[18:05] <cc4> Pici: the one you told me
[18:05] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-676724.html
[18:05] <administ1ator> guntbert: i just installed using sudo apt-get install clamav. but it installs 0.95. latest is 0.96 and they recommend 0.96
[18:05] <Pici> cc4: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:05] <cc4> 9.04
[18:05] <shane2> hi to all
[18:06] <crucialhoax> dacs: No ideas. I have same settings, and it works.
[18:06] <cc4> Pici: one older than the latest
[18:06] <FriedrichMan> hi guys
[18:06] <FriedrichMan> got a question for you
[18:06] <rocket16> |hi FriedrichMan
[18:06] <Pici> cc4: Did that command ask for a password?
[18:06] <cc4> Pici: yes
[18:06] <rocket16> !hi | FriedrichMan
[18:06] <FriedrichMan> is there a command like the command #top  but concerning connections
[18:06] <administ1ator> guntbert: is there any command i can upgrade it? from 0.95 to 0.96?
[18:06] <cc4> Pici: bash: "mypass" : command not found
[18:06] <guntbert> administ1ator: *who* recommends? only security updates are done in a released system
[18:06] <FriedrichMan> like... to monitor live connections
[18:07] <cc4> Pici: the output of the command you said on terminal
[18:07] <odie5533> how do I check memory usage? top command is giving me very different numbers than the system monitor
[18:07] <Pici> cc4: Make sure that you spelled modprobe properly, remember that linux is case sensitive
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:07] <shane2> i am using ubuntu 9.10 and install eclipse for php but it is not working good now  i want to remove eclipse completely
[18:07] <erUSUL> FriedrichMan: iftop ? netstat ?
[18:07] <shane2> how i can remove eclipse
[18:07] <shane2> ?
[18:07] <Pici> odie5533: free -m  , make sure to noet +/- buffers/cache
[18:07] <erUSUL> shane2: how did you installed it?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Shane2: use software centre
[18:07] <rocket16> shane2: Use "sudo apt-get remove eclipse"
[18:07] <cc4> Pici: FATAL: Module joystick not found.
[18:07] <administ1ator> guntbert: they - the clamav organisation itself. when i install it first time and then when try to scan for viruses for 1st time it first give me the warning that my current version is outdates. latest is 0.96
[18:08] <FriedrichMan> erUSUL: something like netstat but not like in an exact moment... but monitoring live
[18:08] <shane2> but it is not removing completely
[18:08] <erUSUL> FriedrichMan: use watch to monitor live
[18:08] <rocket16> snahe2: Also, you can do it from Synaptic. Use Geany, much more lightweight and better.
[18:08] <odie5533> Pici: What are the buffers cached thing?
[18:08] <FriedrichMan> erUSUL: thanks, I'll try that
[18:08] <guntbert> administ1ator: yes, I've seen that warning many times .... -- btw are you serving files for windows machines?
[18:08] <rocket16> shane2: Oh, what message is it showing?
[18:09] <Pici> cc4: This should get you started, I'm not sure if I can help myself, I've never used a joystick under Linux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338457
[18:09] <Lonniebiz> If I'm ssh into a remote ubuntu server, and I want to copy a file that is there to my local Ubuntu Desktop system, what command do I type?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Shane2: then run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove ,that will remove the unused deps
[18:09] <administ1ator> guntbert: no not serving actually. I need to scan my dad's thumb drive. they use it under windows.
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> !scp | lonniebiz
[18:09] <Guest31487> you could always you 2clickupdate
[18:09] <nanotube> Lonniebiz: you need to use sftp for that, not ssh.
[18:10] <administ1ator> guntbert: I now scanned it with 0.95 and it removed 135 infected files. ok now. but just wondering if upgrading to 0.96 ir necessary or what. otherwise fine.
[18:10] <FriedrichMan> erUSUL: i wanna know what's going on with my connections at all times.. how can I use watch so it remains in console monitoring?
[18:10] <Pici> odie5533: Basically, the kernel holds on to data in memory for the sake of efficiency (i.e, its easier to keep it in ram than flush to disk), for more information see http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html and http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[18:10] <axel_foley> can somebody help me? i have a sheevaplug and installed a new kernel with this readme file http://sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva/README-2.6.33.2
[18:10] <arand> administ1ator: Note that that is only for the interface, afaik, the virus definitions should always be up to date..
[18:10] <axel_foley> but the new kernel does not start
[18:10] <axisys> foudn it! inkscape can do that
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Friedrichman: ntop could help there
[18:10] <Guest31487> How do you login in irssi?
[18:11] <cc4> Pici: mine is a paraller port one. will the guide on the url do?
[18:11] <axisys> inkscape -z --file=original.svg --export-pdf=converted.pdf
[18:11] <guntbert> administ1ator: understood - to be honest if never seen *very* new viruses in the wild - so don't be afraid - and what arand said applies too
[18:11] <FriedrichMan> ActionParsnip: then I'll give it a try on thatone
[18:11] <Pici> cc4: I'm not sure, take a look at it.
[18:11] <guntbert> I've
[18:11] <erUSUL> FriedrichMan: « watch netstat -putan » (by default the command is run every 2 seconds you can change that man watch)
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Axel_foley: I don't think that's supported here
[18:11] <gmiazreclian> Hi!
[18:11] <odie5533> how do I check cpu usage?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> Guest31487, /join #ubuntu
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Odie5533: top
[18:11] <arand> administ1ator: Also not the clamav is not exactly the best AV...
[18:11] <shane2> i applied this command "sudo apt-get remove eclipse" but eclipse is still in Applications >> Programming >> Eclipse
[18:11] <FriedrichMan> erUSUL: cool, thanks a lot
[18:12] <shane2> why eclipse is still there
[18:12] <shane2> ?
[18:12] <polydeuces> crucialhoax: okay, I'm going to give these solutions a try. wish me luck!
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Shane2: try running it. Maybe it just hasn't cleaned out the menu item postrm
[18:12] <erUSUL> FriedrichMan: of course you can use the options to netstat that you prefer
[18:12] <guntbert> BluesKaj: wrong window? :)
[18:12] <administ1ator> arand: and guntbert hmm thankyou.
[18:13] <guntbert> administ1ator: no problem - have fun :)
[18:13] <BluesKaj> guntbert, Guest84312 asked how to login on irrssi
[18:13] <BluesKaj> err irssi
[18:13] <administ1ator> guntbert: :)
[18:14] <FriedrichMan> erUSUL: watch + netstat seems to be just what I was looking for
[18:14] <FriedrichMan> thanks a lot
[18:14] <guntbert> BluesKaj: sorry, I thought you wanted to redirect that person from another channel to here :)
[18:14] <Beyecixramd> people, i'm disappointed about Moblin, also tried Arch with E17, and i don't like any of these, can anyone helping me picking a cool distro for my netbook? (i mean, with a customized shell, not like GNOME, or KDE, or nothing like that)
[18:14] <BluesKaj> guntbert, np ?
[18:14] <rocket16> I found that 0 A.D is available for download, in Synaptic. Is it playable?
[18:14] <shane2> it is still there
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Beyecixramd: lxde + ubuntu is pretty sweet, or the netbook remix
[18:15] <erUSUL> rocket16: tias ---> try it and see
[18:15] <shane2> how we can remove or delete or uninstall eclipse
[18:15] <rocket16> erUSUL: Sure, I am downloading it,
[18:15] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip: LXDE is "nothing like that" XD, it's a "standard" desktop enviroment
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Shane2: just delete the item from the menu using alacarte and forget it :)
[18:15] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip: but i'm so willing to try the lucid netbook remix
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Beyecixramd: go get it then, support and discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[18:16] <shane2> :'(
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Beyecixramd: btw, unr is a standard desktop, its on millions of netbooks ;)
[18:17] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip: but... Moblin is optimized for netbooks (Atom) will UNR run as fast as Moblin? can i do something to "improve" it?
[18:17] <rocket16> Beyecixramd: I think, waiting a little bit will help, because Lucid is not yet stably released.
[18:17] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip: for me, standard desktop = file menu + file manager + desktop + dock/whatever
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Beyecixramd: there's also the UI that ships with OLPCs which is netbook shaped
[18:17] <Shunt31> Does anybody here use 2clickupdate?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Beyecixramd: the netbook remix is all that, just mixed up a bit. It still uses nautilis like ubuntu (assuming you go for thr non-kde remix)
[18:19] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip: i know about that, but as you said, it's *customized* for small displays, which is cool :)
[18:19] <crucialhoax> the netbook remix is terrible. If you want something light an efficient either use Lubuntu or Moblin.
[18:20] <rocket16> Or, OpenSuse is also nice for Netbooks,
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> beyecixramd: totally. The wm is optomised to maximise screen realestate
[18:20] <crucialhoax> Yes. One of the better ones, rocket16
[18:20] <rocket16> crucialhoax: Yes, :D
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> +1 for moblin, unr has a min spec of 1gb ram
[18:21] <shane2> eclipse is still running
[18:21] <crucialhoax> The original moblin is rhel base, however, there is an ubuntu-moblin.
[18:21] <Beyecixramd> crucialhoax: Moblin IS terrible, is not configurable at all, just tried it, it sucks, for god's sake...
[18:21] <HiThere> Anyone know how could I expand a partition from right lo left?
[18:21] <Beyecixramd> crucialhoax: not a big deal, the Moblin interface sucks, as i said
[18:22] <Beyecixramd> rocket16: OPENWHUT? that's a monster, eats RAM for breakfast
[18:22] <crucialhoax> Beyecixramd: Point taken, I actually forgot about that, oops. But take a look at Lubuntu,
[18:22] <guntbert> !ot | Beyecixramd
[18:22] <rocket16> Beyecixramd: Lol, not always, OpenSuse is said to be the best Laptop and Netbook Linux, beside Ubuntu.
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Beyecixramd: lxde can have a netbook like interface, very fast
[18:23] <crucialhoax> Or use the netbook remix and install the ubuntu-desktop package.
[18:23] <xomp> CentOS
[18:23] <rocket16> I agree with ActionParsnip, LXDE is very fast, even a lot faster than XFCE, and nearly equal to ICEWM
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> I'd also shoot for puppy but it has a regular desktop feel which is not require by the user
[18:23] <Beyecixramd> i know about LXDE, it's awesome
[18:24] <HiThere> Anyone know how could I resize a partition in Gparted from right to left?
[18:24] <rocket16> Beyecixramd: Also, give a shot to DSL (Damn Small Linux)
[18:24] <crucialhoax> Beyecixramd: Have you taken a look at Slax?
[18:24] <jerry_> anyone recomend a piece of software to make flow charts for linux ?
[18:24] <Beyecixramd> rocket16: know about DSL... not a big deal on nettops imho
[18:24] <HiThere> Jeery, OpenOffice?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Hithere: you'll need to do it in a livecd environment
[18:25] <Beyecixramd> crucialhoax: yes, don't like it
[18:25] <Oer> open office presentation, Jeery ?
[18:25] <jerry_> let me check into oiffce didnt realize it could
[18:25] <rocket16> jerry_: Use KPlato
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Hithere: make sure your backups are recent in case of catastrophe
[18:25] <crucialhoax> Beyecixramd: What are the requirements you are shooting for?
[18:25] <HiThere> ActionParsnip, I tried to do it in the LiveCd
[18:25] <HiThere> buuuuuut
[18:25] <guntbert> crucialhoax: rocket16: Beyecixramd: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:25] <HiThere> ...
[18:25] <HiThere> I will show you
[18:25] <HiThere> wait
[18:25] <FloodBot4> HiThere: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <rocket16> gunbert: No offense, I am out of the discussion.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Jerry_: tuxpaint ;)
[18:26] <rocket16> jerry_: Use Kplato, it is nice,
[18:26] <jerry_> thanks
[18:26] <HiThere> ActionParsnip: http://i41.tinypic.com/23w1fo2.png
[18:26] <HiThere> how to expand SDA5 to the left?
[18:26] <HiThere> xD
[18:26] <crucialhoax> What config files do the system themes use? I would like to change the Ambiance theme colors.
[18:27] <Urda> I didn't think you could resize the starting area of a partition :\
[18:27] <jhambo> Hi folks, on 9.10 here and when I launch kmail or kontact I get segmentation faults.  The debugging info is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/419947/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/419945/. Launching them in the terminal gives the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419949/.  Any assistance to get these programs working would be greatly appreciated.
[18:27] <odie5533> my load is always above 1. Is that bad?
[18:27] <HiThere> ActionParsnip, are you here?
[18:27] <guntbert> HiThere: move it to the left, then increase it's size
[18:27] <Urda> odie5533: open terminal -> run 'top' and see what is running the most
[18:27] <iceroot> odie5533: depending what is running and how much cores you have
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Hithere: unmount it if its mounted then maybe right click the partition to see what is offered. I've never resized partitions as I plan them out
[18:28] <jerry_> im reading open office draw can do it but i dont have draw i only have presentation spreadsheet calculator and writer yet apt-get doesnt show a openoffice-draw am i missing soemthingt
[18:28] <dacs> crucialhoax: is there is a way you can paste for me your /etc/apt/apt.conf please
[18:28] <odie5533> Urda: 1.85
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Hithere: have patience, I'm typing on a G1 phone, jeez
[18:28] <odie5533> iceroot: I'm running gnome, a terminal, and the top command.
[18:28] <Urda> odie5533: OK, it should have a process list moving arround, are one or more processes hanging on always near the top
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> !info openoffice.org_draw
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Bah
[18:28] <jerry_> interesting
[18:28] <crucialhoax> dacs: I have no such file.
[18:28] <odie5533> Urda: Xorg
[18:29] <HiThere> Anyone has resized this any time?
[18:29] <HiThere> http://i41.tinypic.com/23w1fo2.png
[18:29] <rocket16> I think, the Draw package needs to be built externally
[18:29] <dacs> what?!
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Jerry_: apt-cache search openoffice | grep draw
[18:29] <g0aliath> how do i mount a network drive?
[18:29] <guntbert> HiThere: and as ActionParsnip said: make sure it is unmounted (so do it from a live CD)
[18:29] <erUSUL> g0aliath: Places>connect to Server is one way
[18:29] <dacs> how
[18:29] <crucialhoax> dacs: The file you are suggesting, I do not have.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> G0aliath: how is the folder being shared?
[18:29] <Urda> Well HiThere and ActionParsnip I *don't* think you can resize a partition in the start, I thought it had to be at the end since fstab looks for that information
[18:29] <HiThere> guntbert, Im running in a live cd
[18:29] <HiThere> and partitions are unmounted
[18:29] <g0aliath> erUSUL: thanks for the info
[18:30] <guntbert> HiThere: then try as I suggested
[18:30] <Urda> HiThere: ActionParsnip you can resize it at the end, but not at the start of a partition :\ It has been a while size I did a resize but I think that is the case
[18:30] <LzrdKing> crimsun: are you here? can you help me with alsa?
[18:30] <dacs> you don't have '/etc/apt/apt.conf
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> G0aliath: you can use /etc/fstab to mount stuff at boot
[18:30] <Urda> odie5533: OK, but is anything using a lot of CPU or memory in your list?
[18:30] <HiThere> well, so.. If there is any way to... resize from the start...
[18:30] <HiThere> what could I do?
[18:30] <crucialhoax> dacs: No.
[18:30] <Urda> odie5533: PU and %MEM
[18:31] <Urda> odie5533: PU sorry
[18:31] <guntbert> HiThere: what is the problem now? can you move it to the left?
[18:31] <Urda> odie5533: ARGH (%)CPU without the parenthesis
[18:31] <HiThere> I cant
[18:31] <HiThere> :(
[18:31] <Urda> I didn't think you could add size *before* the start of a parition
[18:31] <erUSUL> HiThere: unfortunetly ext* paritions can not move his starting point. but you can move paritions with gparted; can't you ?
[18:31] <odie5533> Urda: Not really. The load is now down to 0.28 though.
[18:32] <HiThere> I can, but... If i cant move his starting point
[18:32] <Urda> odie5533: Did you just start up? Mine is about 1 on startup
[18:32] <HiThere> SDA5 cant increase
[18:32] <LzrdKing> can anyone help me with ALSA? aplay -L finds no sound cards, but i DO have a soundcard
[18:32] <rocket16> Geany is a great choice for Linux development, but is there support for more programmes? Or, is there a way to have Auto-Indent in Gedit?
[18:32] <odie5533> Urda: Yes, I just booted and logged in.
[18:32] <odie5533> Urda: What is a good average for say, 5 minutes after booting?
[18:32] <Urda> odie5533: OK, no worries. System load can be a little above average for a few minutes
[18:32] <Urda> after a bootup
[18:32] <guntbert> HiThere: ah - I see - you will have to move /dev/sda4 -- I suppose it will take sda5 with it
[18:33] <Urda> HiThere: can you remove that fat32 partition beforehand?
[18:33] <HiThere> I can, Urda
[18:33] <_Trullo> anyone got a sfv for the ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso ?
[18:33] <_Trullo> burned 2 copies but get error when installing
[18:34] <Urda> HiThere: Well I would just clear it out, and try to move the partition. Although your /etc/fstab might complain. Any reason why you couldn't just wipe the drive and do a clean install?
[18:34] <HiThere> uhm...
[18:34] <HiThere> no, there is not any important reason
[18:34] <HiThere> I will do a backup of home
[18:34] <HiThere> and...
[18:34] <HiThere> ains...
[18:35] <HiThere> it will be a hell...
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:36] <LzrdKing> ohhhh wt@#$... when X is running: no sound; exit X, sound comes back
[18:36] <LzrdKing> can anyone help me troubleshoot ALSA *under X*?
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -rf $HOME/.pulse* ,then press alt+f2 and type: pulseaudio
[18:37] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: i'm not running pulseaudio, its just ALSA (also not running gnome)
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: I see, that's all I got dude, sorry
[18:38] <warder> nice advice :D
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: make sure alsa is selcted as all the outputs in sound config
[18:39] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: where is sound config?
[18:39] <Oer> LzrdKing, ActionParsnip gave you a possible solution, due to ubuntu is booting too fast ..?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: preferences maybe.
[18:39] <crucialhoax> LzrdKing: I think it is /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[18:40] <rocket16> ALSA probably has a bug, because it crashes many a times,
[18:40]  * Pici plays around with processing.js
[18:40] <LzrdKing> well, i'm running openbox, there is nothing to "double-click on"
[18:40]  * rocket16 likes PulseAudio
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> I've never had a sound issue before so I'm not much help here, maybe others can contribute
[18:40] <cassiodacris> Alguém aí usa xubuntu?
[18:41] <Pici> !br | cassiodacris
[18:43] <ruwan> there aproblem with my .bashrc file
[18:43] <ruwan> http://pastebin.com/PP4tpYHy
[18:44] <ruwan> anything wrong with the way I set env. vars..?
[18:44] <shane3> how we can block porn websites on ubuntu 9.10
[18:44] <shane3> :-(
[18:45] <shane3> is there any package or some related stuff
[18:45] <mgolisch> shane3: use a proxy server?
[18:46] <Andril> hello allo
[18:46] <Pici> shane3: dansguardian perhaps?
[18:46] <stego_> shane3: use opendns or squid/squidguard or find an addon for your firefox
[18:46] <shane3> please guide me
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Shane3: add resolves in /etc/hosts to make the sites resolve to 127.0.0.1 there may also be a parental addon/extension for your browser
[18:46] <odie5533> proxy server is probably best bet since you can block them for everyone, not just for a computer by computer basis
[18:46] <nsadmin> what versions are there of tcl in ubuntu?
[18:46] <stego_> !opendns
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> !find tcl
[18:47] <Andril> I need help partioning a drive for Ubuntu 10.04 - the drive is 149gb and is a partition of a 300gb drive that houses Windows 7
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Nsadmin: looks like 8.4 on the official repo. There may be a ppa if a later version exists
[18:47] <ruwan> CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME TOO..?
[18:47] <shane3> i think these things not helpful for blocking porn related websites
[18:47] <crucialhoax> Andril: #ubuntu+1 for 10.04 please
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | andrill
[18:48] <shane3> some other suggestion pleas
[18:48] <mikebeecham> hi guys...sorry I asked this earlier, but didnt get a response:  I installed Kubuntu desktop earlier on to see what it was like...didnt like it so removed it...however now I cannot get back to my default pointers.  I have the KDE pointer still...nothing I can do changes it back...can anyone help?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> !puregnome | mikebeecham
[18:49] <kramer3d> a USB device i have keeps hanging
[18:49] <nsadmin> ActionParsnip: thanks for response... does that cover all versions of ubuntu that are presently available to be downloaded/installed?
[18:49] <kramer3d> how can i unmount it?
[18:49] <Andril> understood i just need help partitioning the 149gb side please
[18:49] <kramer3d> it is tty/USB0
[18:49] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip: I did that, but nothing worked!!!
[18:49] <stego_> shane3: what do you mean be more specific ?
[18:49] <kramer3d> ttyUSB0
[18:49] <odie5533> !purgekde
[18:49] <CQ> hello, what are arguments for encrypting a home directory vs. encrypting the whole home partition?
[18:49] <mikebeecham> I still have the pointers, despite removing Kubuntu
[18:49] <Teknoenie> does anyone know how to change the name of a linux distro?
[18:49] <kramer3d> how do i unmount ttyUSB0
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Nsadmin: all the official releases use the official repo, ppas may only support certain releases
[18:50] <nsadmin> what's a ppa?
[18:50] <CQ> kramer3d: umount is the command you need, run mount to see a list of mounted devices
[18:50] <rocket16> kramer3d: Use "umount /dev/ttyUSB0" command.
[18:50] <shane3> i just need block all porn related websites on my loptop
[18:50] <kramer3d> thanks
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Mikebeecham: try setting the cursor to something else (even download one to test)
[18:50] <Andril> any help with partioning a 149gb drive?
[18:51] <nsadmin> shane3: not trusting yourself? :)
[18:51] <stego_> shane3: !opendns
[18:51] <rocket16> nsadmin: PPA is Personal Package Archive, see here http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=3&ved=0CA0QFjAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Flaunchpad.net%2Fubuntu%2F%2Bppas&rct=j&q=ppa&ei=5jrPS6jvDI61rAffz9G3Bg&usg=AFQjCNGnIv9IyYJB0I33nLfqmm-zm1tOBw
[18:51] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip: tried that under appearance...nothing changed :(
[18:51] <CQ> Andril: run gparted and go partition ...
[18:51] <nsadmin> oh ok
[18:51] <Andril> CQ: i need a good scheme for /home /swap and such -
[18:52] <nsadmin> so it's an aptable archive that's not setup like a mirror
[18:52] <stego_> shane3: with opendns u dont need to install anything they will block all porn for you
[18:52] <shane3> not trust on my friendslike ...
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: that's why I hate google
[18:52] <CQ> andril- minimal systgem installation with swap, tmp, home, and var in LVM... read up on LVM2 .
[18:52] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Lol, :D it is not so bad, and if you hate google, try www.bing.com, :) By Microsoft, :)
[18:52] <jelly-bean> I have my old ubuntu hdd and I am trying to copy files off it to my new hdd. the home dir is encrypted. how do I mount the home dir to get to my files?
[18:53] <Andril> CQ: ok so I have a 149gb drive - how much do assign to each
[18:54] <muduza> i have a need for a program that when you run it it types the contents of a text file
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: I use www.ask.com a lot
[18:54] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Lol, nice
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: just wished thyey wouldn't bloat links
[18:54] <gmatt> i want to embed a terminal into my desktop.  all the guides i have followed have failed...any ideas?
[18:54] <jrib> muduza: what do you mean by "types"
[18:54] <g0rd0n> how do i avoid that my dhcp client replaces the contents of resolv.conf?
[18:55] <nsadmin> ActionParsnip: if we restrict this conversation to be only about what's on the official repos, what method can be used to see what versions of tcl are presently available across all (offical) versions?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Gmatt: could use guake / tilda instead, hides and shows the terminal with a hotkey
[18:55] <stego_> muduza: you mean echo ?
[18:55] <stego_> !echo
[18:55] <thechef> Unlike the ubuntu-installation an ubuntu dist-upgrade often asks me certain questions during the upgrade process and thus forces me to interact steadily. Why isn't the upgrade process designed more intelligently?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Nsadmin: apt-cache search tcl | less
[18:55] <Andril> CQ: thanks for this session of "Help A Noob" I just noticed the slide during install
[18:55] <jrib> gmatt: you can use devilspie to remove decorations and have a terminal display under all windows to accomplish that, but it's pretty useless imo.  See ActionParsnip for better options that you'll probably like
[18:55] <hardcampa> hmm good one ActionParsnip I've missed guake.. loved Yakuake in kde.
[18:56] <jrib> !pm | muduza
[18:56] <zenlunatic> is there a panel applet to notify of capslock being activated/on
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Thechef: post on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[18:56] <jrib> muduza: repeating what you said originally, doesn't really clarify things.  Do you want the « cat » program?
[18:56] <gmatt> i'd rather have a terminal i can see all the time, instead of a drop-down.  thanks for the suggestions
[18:56] <gnychis> I am running 9.04, but i do not have the option to upgrade to 9.10 in update manager... i did "sudo apt-get dist-ugprade" from the command line, and i still have 9.04... what else can i do?
[18:56] <jrib> gmatt: but most people don't see their desktop all the time :)
[18:56] <nsadmin> ActionParsnip: running debian at the moment... that really will get all versions available in all ubuntus? could you/someoen run that and pastebin? :)
[18:57] <gmatt> jrib: it's for eyecandy...
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Nsadmin: debian isn't supported here
[18:57] <nsadmin> not asking for debian support
[18:57] <bigga> whys debian banned
[18:57] <bigga> debian is mother
[18:57] <jrib> nsadmin: packages.ubuntu.com
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Nsadmin: I'm out and about so I can't. You can check: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:58] <Pici> bigga: Debian has their own support channels
[18:58] <nsadmin> that'll work,,, thanks
[18:58] <bigga> and very good ones, if extremely rude :)
[18:58] <morrowyn> hi, i noticed that the /dev/ are switched around during various reboots, and that you need to use a uuid in the /etc/fstab, how do i find out which uuid belongs to which device?
[18:58] <jrib> !uuid | morrowyn
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Morrowyn: sudo blkid
[18:58] <jcrawford> someone start a #debian-nice channel lol
[18:58] <morrowyn> thanks
[18:59] <bigga> not interested enough in debian thanks
[18:59] <muduza> nvm i need a program to automate ssh tasks i need to send multiple commands to 5 diffrent ssh servers
[18:59] <jrib> muduza: one time?
[18:59] <morrowyn> hmmm, it says: promise_fasttrack_raid_member on one device which isn't a promise fasttrak
[18:59] <bigga> id rather be a double parasite, ubuntu parasites debian (symbioticly) then i just leech
[18:59] <pedrosanta> !help
[19:00] <bigga> awesome strategy
[19:00] <pedrosanta> !topic
[19:00] <muduza> no multiple times
[19:00] <jrib> muduza: at regular intervals?
[19:00] <jrib> !Who | muduza
[19:00] <bigga> hey ubuntu
[19:00] <bigga> your new theme rock
[19:00] <pedrosanta> lol
[19:00] <bigga> its real pretty
[19:00] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip: I've found the mouse theme issue...Kubuntu seems to have overwritten the default mouse theme with Oxy-White...so all themes work, but when I hit 'Default' I get oxy-white...do you know how I can revert the mouse theme?
[19:01] <nsadmin> ok, that answers that... tcl 8.[345] are all available from hardy to lucid
[19:01] <nsadmin> thanks
[19:01] <muduza> Jrib: no when i execute it
[19:01] <jrib> muduza: then just write a bash script
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Mikebeecham: i'd websearch for oxy-white in some form to maybe find guides. You may find joy in gconf-editor
[19:02] <muduza> im not sure how abouts i would go about it
[19:02] <bigga> story of unix guy. install slackware. learn it. make own lfs. realise he waste his life playing with things 10000 others can do better, install fedora, fedora command and control change something arbitrarily and tell you to STFU they dont care it screwed you, unix guy installs ubuntu
[19:02] <bigga> win
[19:02] <jrib> muduza: #bash can help you get started writing bash scripts
[19:02] <Rev_Willie_Crow> hi all
[19:02] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip: just messed with gconf, but no joy there
[19:02] <bigga> then USES the computer!
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Bigga: if you don't mind the bloat ;)
[19:03] <Rev_Willie_Crow> has anywone seen a Touch Book yet, I was thinking of getting one
[19:03] <bigga> hds are big these days
[19:03] <jrib> !ot | Rev_Willie_Crow
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Bigga: not here
[19:03] <muduza> jrib: im new to ubuntu im not sure what #bash is
[19:03] <jrib> muduza: it's another channel like #ubuntu, but concentrates on bash programming
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Muduza: its an irc channel: type: /join #bash
[19:03] <muduza> ooo ok
[19:04] <bigga> here either i blew 9 of mine up while drunk because my HK HD PSU supply had 2mm too small construction and allowed me to put it in backwards
[19:04] <bigga> mmm the smell of burning toxic metals
[19:04] <muduza> Thank you you both have been helpful
[19:04] <Rev_Willie_Crow> it is not off topic, it comes with ubuntu on it.
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Bigga: 9? I don't think I've owned 9 drives in my life
[19:05] <bigga> i installed slackware from creekwhateveritwas in the early 90s
[19:05] <bigga> i had a lot more than 9 lol
[19:05] <jrib> Rev_Willie_Crow: this channel is for ubuntu operating system *support*.  You can discuss different laptops and netbooks in #ubuntu-offtopic, there are plenty of people there
[19:05] <AdmiralDeath> what is the command to stop X server?
[19:06] <bigga> killall -9 Xorg
[19:06] <jrib> bigga: please move the non-support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic so we can concentrate on support here
[19:06] <bigga> ctrl+alt+backspace works usually too
[19:06] <Rev_Willie_Crow> sorry
[19:06] <jrib> AdmiralDeath: why do you want to stop it?
[19:06] <gbear14275> I'm looking for help to set my battery charging profiles.  anyone done that here before?  I'm reading this (www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi) but thought I would ask the community to see if any here have any experience
[19:06] <bigga> jrib: your wish is my procedure
[19:06] <AdmiralDeath> I need to install a Driver and it wont install with X server running
[19:06] <jrib> bigga: thank you
[19:06] <LzrdKing> when X is running (nvidia drivers), aplay -L returns nothing, aplay -l returns "aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found..." and alsamixer returns "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory".  immediately when i kill X, alsamixer opens, aplay -l shows two STAC92xx devices (digital and analog) and aplay -L shows 7 analog devices, 1 digital device and null
[19:06] <manager> hi all - i'm currently running ubuntu 9.04 - i want to know what the main differences are between 9.04 and 10.04 except for kernel updates and slight gui change?
[19:06] <jrib> AdmiralDeath: what driver?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Admiraldeath: is it the nvidia driver?
[19:07] <AdmiralDeath> Nvidia
[19:07] <jrib> manager: #ubuntu+1 please
[19:07] <jrib> !nvidia | AdmiralDeath
[19:07] <manager> jrib: thanks
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Admiraldeath: no need, just use the hardware app
[19:07] <AdmiralDeath> No
[19:07] <gbear14275> manager: www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2  here is a list so far
[19:07] <AdmiralDeath> The driver it installs screws up linux
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Admiraldeath, you can add the nvidia vpau ppa and get stuff optomised for nvidia
[19:08] <bigga> AdmiralDeath, try telinit s
[19:08] <manager> gbear14275: thank you
[19:08] <bigga> for single user
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Admiraldeath: works flawlessly here
[19:08] <AdmiralDeath> sadly the card I am using is very old
[19:08] <AdmiralDeath> it is a NVIDIA 3 series so it is very touchy as to what driver I use
[19:09] <maquina10> lol
[19:09] <maquina10> lol
[19:09] <maquina10> lol
[19:09] <FloodBot4> maquina10: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <gbear14275> manager: just realize this is not the complete list, not sure if it mentions the integrated ubuntuone benefits (such as online 2gb backup as well as integrated music purchases DRM free)
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Admiraldeath: you can boot to root recovery mode to install it there too
[19:09] <gbear14275> anyone have any experience configuring their battery charge profiles?  (so you don't nuke your battery by keeping it plugged in all the time)
[19:09] <manager> gbear14275: thanks i know about those already
[19:10] <user_>  5.04?
[19:10] <gbear14275> what I'm specifically hoping for is a GUI to help configure battery charging... anyone know about anything like that?
[19:11] <user_> how can i upgrade my ubuntu 5.04 or the hoary hedge?
[19:11] <user_> anyone
[19:11] <user_> ????
[19:11] <user_> please?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | user_
[19:11] <x-man> i can't chat online in my yaho messenger
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> User_: i'd clean install. It'll be waaay faster, and stop spamming
[19:12] <x-man> anyone can help me,, what aplicatn for ym n linux
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> X-man: try gyache or pidgin
[19:12] <user_> how much?
[19:12] <crucialhoax> x-man: Use either pidgin or empathy.
[19:12] <stego_> !pidgin | x-man
[19:12] <user_> i mean does it have a payment/
[19:12] <user_> ?
[19:13] <jrib> user_: that version is so old, it would be a lot faster to just make backups of your data and do a fresh install
[19:13] <x-man> but pidgin or ghyach save our password,, its nt save for me
[19:13] <stego_> !kopete | x-man
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> User_: no they are open and free
[19:13] <hermdog> good day!
[19:13] <user_> how can i made back-up jrib? and how can i install? im not that so good with computer...
[19:14] <thevishy> i can see firefox in ps -eaf but not in my gnome task bar what to do
[19:14] <thevishy> user_, what backup OS or ur data
[19:14] <stego_> x-man: or else you webmessenger
[19:14] <user_> actionparnership...really? but where?
[19:14] <bigga> killall -9 firefox
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Thevishy: kill -9 PID ,replace PID with the PID of the process
[19:14] <stego_> x-man: or else *use webmessenger
[19:14] <hermdog> has tmpwatch been converted over to tmpreaper for ubuntu 9.10
[19:14] <hermdog> or is there a way to apt-get tmpwatch
[19:14] <bigga> also install program atop
[19:15] <bigga> its great
[19:15] <x-man> yes,, web mesenger is good
[19:15] <jrib> user_: just copy your data to some external media.  Then (I would recommend you wait until 10.04 is released in about a week) you can grab the .iso for 10.04 from ubuntu.com, burn it to a disk, boot from the disk, and follow the on-screen instructions
[19:15] <thevishy> the problem is with gnome task bar and not the process even the X chat just goes down and doesnt show in task br
[19:15] <x-man> but limited feature
[19:15] <gbear14275> anyone here able to talk to power management (specifically battery management)?  I have questions about setting charging thresholds for my new li-ion battery.
[19:15] <jrib> gbear14275: you should just ask the question
[19:15] <thevishy> can i restart the gnome panels
[19:16] <stego_> x-man: shutdown -r now select win
[19:16] <crucialhoax> thevishy: sudo restart gdm
[19:16] <frikinz> hi. this weekend I have to reinstall a PC for a friend. Time to ditch windows and its 2 AV and its firewall etc... The thing is, he'll be going back to poland on monday and I can't help him anymore then. He has no clue really about computers. Could I install him the LTS? (timing is stupid..) Or karmic? What about polish support?
[19:16] <crucialhoax> thevishy: That will restart the gnome session.
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Stego_: shutdown needs sudo ;)
[19:16] <gbear14275> jrib:  are there any gui's available to help set charging profiles for my battery?  If not, how can I set my charging profiles?
[19:16] <stego_> ActionParsnip: lol thx
[19:16] <jrib> gbear14275: I don't know, I meant ask the channel
[19:16] <user_> by the way another thing is...whats the use of the drive?
[19:16] <hermdog> has tmpwatch been converted over to tmpreaper?
[19:17] <gbear14275> jrib:  not having much luck
[19:17] <hermdog> is tmpwatch still a valid package for 9.10
[19:18] <jrib> frikinz: LTS is pretty stable at this point, but something could always crop up.  If you'll be seeing him again within the year, the safe bet is to just go with 9.10 and then help him upgrade later
[19:18] <CQ> hermdog: look at packages.ubuntu.com
[19:19] <durt> hey font geeks, is there  copperplate gothic available for ubuntu or an equiv?
[19:19] <jrib> frikinz: as for polish support, #ubuntu-pl could probably help you more but it's just a matter of installing the language support for polish and then selecting polish as the default language for his user
[19:19] <jrib> durt: is it a ttf font?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Durt: I believe fonts are standardised so you can download a font file and use this guide
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> !font > durt
[19:20] <kriel> Trying to configure my ubuntu server to use https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=hardy . Apt doesn't seem to see the packages in the ppa. bash log at http://pastebin.com/iygn47cz
[19:21] <frikinz> jrib, you're right, I'll stay on the safe side. I guess language is now well supported for linux in general, even for "less common" ones. Thanks. I'll download now the cd or dvd and this weekend will switch to polish. I don't know one word of polish and he only knows polish :)
[19:21] <frikinz> gnu/linux
[19:21] <ThJ> I've got one of those dual-graphics laptops and I suspect the Nvidia G 105M won't work unless I disable the Intel graphics first. From what I hear, this is poorly supported under Linux. I have been trying to get the card to work with xorg since yesterday. All the usual tricks are not working. I'm using the latest driver from Nvidia and the card is listed as supported. I think it's the Intel card interfering. It doesn't look like it's possible to switc
[19:21] <LzrdKing> where the heck is crimsun?  he got me into this!
[19:22] <jrib> frikinz: I haven't changed the language in a while, but in the past you could add language support in the admin menu and then choose the language at the gdm login screen by clicking on optoins
[19:22] <aar> Hi, I've got two ubuntu boxes connected by a crossover cable. I can ssh into my 2nd box OK, but when Y try to scp a file I get: Permission denied (publickey,password). Why is this happening?
[19:22] <ThJ> The /dev/nvidia0 device is present but running nvidia-xconfig -a spits out errors in dmesg about not being able to copy vbios to system memory.
[19:23] <gbear14275> are there any gui's available to help set charging profiles for my battery?  If not, is there a best practice for setting charging profiles?  I'm looking at this one but seems specific to thinkpads:  www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi
[19:23] <jrib> kriel: what's the issue?
[19:23] <LzrdKing> can anyone help a poor guy out?
[19:23] <jrib> !helpme | LzrdKing
[19:23] <ThJ> I can normally get these cards to work without asking around like this so I'm really in a tight spot now
[19:23] <kriel> jrib: i'm looking for the package 'mapserver' from the ppa. apt-cache search doesn't show it.
[19:24] <Pici> kriel: What architecture are you on?
[19:24] <LzrdKing> when X is running (nvidia drivers), aplay -L returns nothing, aplay -l returns "aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found..." and alsamixer returns "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory".  immediately when i kill X, alsamixer opens, aplay -l shows two STAC92xx devices (digital and analog) and aplay -L shows 7 analog devices, 1 digital device and null.  oh and sound doesn't work under X.  How do i get so
[19:24] <jrib> kriel: why?  That's a source package.  It builds other packages.  For example, try: apt-cache policy mapserver-bin
[19:24] <mikebeecham> hi there...does anyone know where I can re-download the Ubuntu default mouse theme?
[19:25] <kriel> Pici: uname -a: Linux mapsrv 2.6.24-27-server #1 SMP Fri Mar 12 01:23:09 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:25] <stego_> LzrdKing: your problem is in alsa right ?
[19:25] <kriel> jrib: I'll admit I don't have the best understanding of the packaging system. Is this working as expected?
[19:26] <jrib> kriel: yes, take a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ppa/+packages and click on the "mapserver" package.  You'll see the packages that get built from this single source mapserver package
[19:26] <LzrdKing> stego_: it would appear the problem is X
[19:26] <frikinz> jrib. ok. I'm now downloading the torrent i686 karmic dvd. Also safer as the internet this weekend might be slow. thanks again.
[19:27] <shane3> Fastest way to check system bit in using linux commands
[19:27] <shane3> ?
[19:27] <coz_> frikinz,  check the cd after running it ith the "check cd for errors"  options  I believe its called  or also check the md5sum on the dvd iso
[19:27] <jrib> shane3: check what exactly?
[19:27] <bigga> shane3, i dont understand
[19:27] <jrib> shane3: you mean architecture?  uname -m
[19:27] <bigga> ahh
[19:27] <stego_> LzrdKing: cek your user account
[19:27] <bigga> or uname -a for more fun
[19:28] <LzrdKing> stego_: what am i checking for?
[19:28] <Goliath> how can i enable a save as pdf option in opneoffice?
[19:28] <stego_> LzrdKing: user group audio
[19:28] <crucialhoax> Goliath: It already enabled.
[19:28] <bigga> Goliath, yes but it is horrible and rubbish dont do it, print it as a pdf instead
[19:28] <kriel> jrib: I think I understand. So, to install 'mapserver' on this machine, I'd just install the built packages? (Assumedly mapserver-bin and possibly cgi-mapserver)
[19:28] <bigga> it will ruin your pdf
[19:28] <bigga> just print it as a pdf
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Goliath: its threre by default
[19:29] <stego_> LzrdKing: bet your user is not part of audio
[19:29] <bigga> use print normal option, to pdf
[19:29] <jrib> kriel: yeah, you'd have to read the descriptions for those packages and see which one does what you want
[19:29] <LzrdKing> stego_: yeah i saw that on line and tried it, it didn't help at all
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Goliath: look for the pdf icon in the top bars
[19:29] <Goliath> bigga: what is rubbish?
[19:29] <Dark-Dx> Hi guys I need help!!
[19:29] <Dark-Dx> I just screwed linus i dun know what to do!
[19:29] <LzrdKing> stego_: the user is in the audio group; would that be affected by starting X?
[19:30] <bigga> Goliath, It makes huge PDF files full of stuff that nobody needs, if you print it as a PDF file its just like a hardcopy
[19:30] <Dark-Dx> please help i screwed linus
[19:30] <bigga> which is usually what you want from a PDF
[19:30] <Dark-Dx> it dont work
[19:30] <amosek> Dark-Dx: be more specific please
[19:30] <Goliath> bigga: so the export option to pdf isnt good?
[19:30] <stego_> LzrdKing: is it X failed or no sound
[19:30] <bigga> yeah dont use it
[19:30] <bigga> its a misfeature unless you know a reason it isnt
[19:30] <stego_> LzrdKing: when X is running (nvidia drivers), aplay -L returns nothing, aplay -l returns "aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found
[19:30] <Dark-Dx> screwed linus it dont working,
[19:31] <Dark-Dx> it all black
[19:31] <LzrdKing> stego_: X runs fine, just no sound; all the sound utils completely crap out until i stop X
[19:31] <bigga> im sure someone has one or they wouldnt have did it normal people dont use that option
[19:31] <jrib> Dark-Dx: it's "linux", not "linus"
[19:31] <Dark-Dx> ok
[19:31] <frikinz> coz_, You're right, I use k3b (one of the fest kde app I still run from gnome), I think it's automatic. I'll check.
[19:31] <bigga> calling linux linus is cute
[19:31] <stego_> LzrdKing: the user group have u check it?
[19:32] <Dark-Dx> please help it black with sum weird words!!
[19:32] <coz_> frikinz,   yeah  just check the md5sums and run cd check after burning...the md5sum is run on the actual .iso image though from terminal    md5sum nameof.iso
[19:32] <bigga> Goliath, you can make PDF fine from any linux program by going to print and selecting to print to PDF. if it will only print to ps, print to that then use ps2pdf to make it a pdf
[19:32] <coz_> frikinz, then check that with ubuntu hashes
[19:32] <LzrdKing> stego_: yes, i tried that a while ago
[19:32] <jrib> Dark-Dx: for people to help you, you have to be specific (but please keep your message on a single line; use paste.ubuntu.com if you need to paste a lot of information)
[19:32] <Goliath> bigga: ok i am good
[19:33] <shane2> run command ---------------->uname -m
[19:33] <shane2> outout -------------------------> i686
[19:33] <coz_> frikinz,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[19:33] <shane2> what means
[19:33] <Dark-Dx> i get sumthing about a disk or something like that
[19:33] <ary> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with kde 4.3. I want to install kde 4.4. I read that I need to use
[19:33] <ary> 3rd Party Repository: KDE Backports (http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/20). My question is: Is it only for kde 4.4 or later will  it have kde 4.5?
[19:33] <shane2> ?
[19:33] <stego_> !alsactl | LzrdKing
[19:33] <jrib> Dark-Dx: "specific"
[19:33] <Dark-Dx> whats a disk?
[19:33] <bigga> if i recall, OO is the ONLY program you cant do direct PDF print, because they want you to export to their PDF but dont do it, that way lies hades
[19:33] <Dark-Dx> kk it say
[19:33] <bigga> so print to ps and convert
[19:34] <bigga> apt-get install ps2pdf
[19:34] <Dark-Dx> "disk boot failure insert disk and press enter" what disk I gotta insert?
[19:34] <stego_> LzrdKing: your problem is in alsa
[19:34] <coz_> bigga,  did you get all of your compiz up and running? :)
[19:34] <gbear14275> are there any gui's available to help set charging profiles for my battery?  If not, is there a best practice for setting charging profiles?  I'm looking at this one but seems specific to thinkpads:  www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi
[19:34] <stego_> LzrdKing: try alsactl -F
[19:34] <Dark-Dx> just installed linus and it already werid
[19:34] <gbear14275> I'm concerned about battery life
[19:35] <Goliath> bigga: ok do you know how can i add a book front
[19:35] <Goliath> like ms office?
[19:35] <bigga> coz_, i comprmized by living with ring, when im not very high i will take the shift graphics and add them as an option to ring :)
[19:35] <ary> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with kde 4.3. I want to install kde 4.4. I read that I need to use
[19:35] <ary> 3rd Party Repository: KDE Backports (http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/20). My question is: Is it only for kde 4.4 or later will  it have kde 4.5?
[19:35] <coz_> bigga,   ok cool :)
[19:35] <amosek> Dark-Dx: you say you just installed.. has it started at least once?
[19:35] <Dark-Dx> it just installed yeah
[19:35] <bigga> Goliath, why do you want to put the font in the PDF is someone going to edit it?
[19:35] <coz_> gbear14275,   look for something called  ibam   it may be  in the repository  not sure
[19:35] <Dark-Dx> hmm I have a idea
[19:36] <stego_> LzrdKing: recheck the user group if it not audio may be it sound for group
[19:36] <Goliath> bigga i mean a book front
[19:36] <LzrdKing> stego_: alasactl: Specify command...
[19:36] <Goliath> like the front page of a book
[19:36] <gbear14275> coz.... looking at it right now
[19:36] <bigga> yeah it will print just like your document looks
[19:36] <bigga> give it a try
[19:36] <stego_> LzrdKing: alsactl -F
[19:36] <Dark-Dx> oh yeah! it work!! im such genius :)
[19:36] <stego_> LzrdKing: alsactl --force
[19:36] <Dark-Dx> im insert the cd again and it starting :)
[19:37] <Dark-Dx> im in the ubuntu screnn and all!
[19:37] <LzrdKing> stego_: alasactl: Specify command...
[19:37] <luismmontielg> anyone here knows how to access encrypted home user folder from previous ubuntu installation?
[19:37] <bigga> brb
[19:37] <Dark-Dx> though it taking long liek always
[19:37] <judgen> hmm so long since i used x-chat, do you know how to disable all the join/leave/quit messages?
[19:38] <stego_> LzrdKing: hmm login as root and try the sound if its ok you really need to check the user group
[19:38] <coz_> luismmontielg,   start here   http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7568/2/  not sure if that has what you want however
[19:38] <Dark-Dx> it say install again, why
[19:38] <Hariharakadan> judgen, http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=2568
[19:38] <Dark-Dx> man it didnt install already?!?
[19:38] <LzrdKing> stego_: what should alsactl -F do?
[19:39] <Dark-Dx> what's this
[19:39] <amosek> Dark-Dx: because you have booted from cd again
[19:39] <luismmontielg> coz_, thanks Ill look
[19:39] <Dark-Dx> I know that how it worked again
[19:39] <Dark-Dx> it works everything
[19:39] <stego_> LzrdKing: man alsactl
[19:39] <LzrdKing> stego_: -F is an option, not a command
[19:39] <coz_> luismmontielg,  ok cool...also goodle  ubuntu access ecrypted home from previous install  and see what comes up
[19:40] <Dark-Dx> but it say install again weird Im gonna delete that
[19:40] <LzrdKing> stego_: http://pastebin.com/1HzQGQn3 when i run aplay with X running
[19:40] <guntbert> luismmontielg: you *did* record the generated passphrase ?
[19:40] <Dark-Dx> ok good, love linus
[19:40] <Dark-Dx> it beter than windows it shit
[19:40] <Pici> Dark-Dx: Please mind your language here.
[19:40] <bigga> Goliath, i dont remember working with PDF heavily i use them as hardcopies of things i need to keep but you can use programs to mark them up with hyperlinks and that may be the one single occassion you could justify using export to PDF
[19:40] <amosek> Dark-Dx: install again and don't forget to install MBR when it asks to do so
[19:41] <bigga> its SO unintuitive though you will cry beg and scream and wish you just printed to ps then converted to pdf
[19:41] <nicky> hi i cant seem to connect my windows machine to my ubuntu machine via ethernet. it refsues to connect it willj ust say eth0 disconeccted. How can I fix this?
[19:41] <stego_> LzrdKing: just once please login as root !!
[19:41] <sabator> What is th best antivirus on Ubuntu ?
[19:41] <KenShin133> i need a bit of help moveing how my grub boots http://paste.ubuntu.com/419980/
[19:41] <stego_> LzrdKing: i bet the sound is working
[19:41] <Dark-Dx> it kinda slow but it work
[19:41] <amosek> Dark-Dx: check this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[19:42] <LzrdKing> stego_: trying
[19:42] <luismmontielg> guntbert, no I dont think so, its not my hard drive, a friend installed /home in another partition then reinstalled dont know why and put / and /home in the same partition.. he tried to mount the /home partition from ubuntu prev install but its encripted
[19:42] <luismmontielg> guntbert, we know there's the data because of the free space
[19:42] <bigga> sabator, apt-cache search virus
[19:42] <stego_> LzrdKing: i'll wait
[19:42] <Dark-Dx> oh man this suk, windows is more faster. now I have to get the cd from a friend
[19:42] <bigga> probably still amavis
[19:42] <Dark-Dx> he have windows
[19:43] <Dark-Dx> this's too slow
[19:43] <silver_> hi all.  my laptop wont start, it says mount of filesystem failed. (gnome 9.10)
[19:43] <bigga> who needs an antivirus on linux
[19:43] <Pici> !antivirus | sabator
[19:43] <Goliath> Does anyone know how can i choose a cover in opneoffice?
[19:43] <Goliath> like book cover
[19:43] <bigga> you are a russian business network your marks are 98% windows 1% mac and 1% linux server
[19:43] <guntbert> luismmontielg: yes, but without the passphrase the data is definitely inaccessible - if it is encrypted
[19:43] <amosek> Dark-Dx: it's slow because it's running from CD ... will be much faster after you install and boot from hard drive
[19:43] <KenShin133> if anyone has a sec im haveing a couple grub2 problems http://paste.ubuntu.com/419980/
[19:43] <bigga> who's gunna write the viruses
[19:43] <Dark-Dx> thank you guy for help, I see this's to slow my computer suck anyway
[19:44] <bigga> Dark-Dx, wait
[19:44] <uvacav> anyone know of any wine daily snapshots built for ubuntu? I really don't want to compile this myself on an Atom...
[19:44] <bigga> you can make ubuntu slick and slim
[19:44] <Pici> !who
[19:44] <Dark-Dx> what you want
[19:44] <bigga> install the xfce install
[19:44] <Dark-Dx> ahh?
[19:44] <bigga> xubuntu
[19:44] <rocket16> Bravo! I just downloaded 0 A.D, and I am sure, we'll have a great increase in Linux Gaming because of this game.
[19:44] <Dark-Dx> yeah but it slow too
[19:45] <rocket16> Sorry, if I had been offtopic.
[19:45] <kevin_> hi, does the ubuntu home directory encryption encrypt my browsing history/cookies and thunderbird emails?
[19:45] <bigga> install the server install
[19:45] <bigga> and awesome-wm
[19:45] <Brixius> luismmontielg: Excerpt from: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7568/1/ It is also essential that the user records their randomly generated mount passphrase. Write it down, print it out, escrow it to a trusted server or service, store in your safety deposit box. This key, rather than your system log in password, is absolutely required if you need to restore your data from backup or migrate your data elsewhere.
[19:45] <bigga> then it wont be
[19:45] <Kajayacht> Dark-Dx, you might also want to try Lubuntu, I don't know how much it has changed since I last used it
[19:45] <bigga> but you will need to be a geek
[19:45] <FloodBot4> bigga: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <Kajayacht> but it looks promising
[19:45] <bigga> FloodBot1, chastised and corrected sir
[19:45] <Dark-Dx> im no nerd lol
[19:45] <luismmontielg> Brixius, thanks, so, it seems my friend is lost
[19:46] <Dark-Dx> bye bye
[19:46] <Dark-Dx> how do i close this
[19:46] <bigga> Dark-Dx, pm me
[19:46] <kevin_> hi, does the ubuntu home directory encryption encrypt my browsing history/cookies and thunderbird emails?
[19:46] <amosek> Dark-Dx: /part
[19:46] <KenShin133> last time, GRUB 2 ISSUES! http://paste.ubuntu.com/419980/
[19:46] <Dark-Dx> it not work
[19:46] <bigga> ubuntu is a fat distro i can help you with something to make the pc useful
[19:47] <amosek> lol
[19:47] <LzrdKing> stego_: you seem to be partially right, if i run a sound tool as root, like "sudo alsamixer" when X is running, it works fine
[19:47] <LzrdKing> so why do i need to be root to run alsamixer when X is running but i can be a regular user when it's not?
[19:47] <stego_> LzrdKing: you use kde ?
[19:47] <Brixius> luismmontielg: Most likely, there may be some sort of brute force attack you could use, but I would have to google and try to figure out how to do it. so your better googleing it yourself.
[19:48] <brandon_> ola alguem do brasil ?
[19:48] <luismmontielg> Brixius, good, thanks!
[19:48] <LzrdKing> stego_: no, its just bare openbox
[19:48] <stego_> LzrdKing: hmm
[19:48] <brandon_> em ?
[19:48] <bigga> man there are pcs out there that run windows 95 like rocketships 10 years old
[19:48] <stego_> LzrdKing: what x for ?
[19:48] <bigga> the guy just was a troll dissin linux
[19:48] <bigga> especially ubuntu
[19:48] <guntbert> bigga: what are you talking about?
[19:48] <Spasysheep> 9.10 'karmic' I have two network connections, wlan0 and eth0; I want to share the internet connection from wlan0 to eth0 so a computer without wifi can get internet, without this computer losing it's internet connection. All the guides I can find on the internet on how to do this serve only to break all my connectivity
[19:49] <tixboubou> hi i am new ubuntu
[19:49] <bigga> the one who said his pc is too slow for linux
[19:49] <stego_> LzrdKing: chek user group again
[19:49] <amosek> !es |brandon
[19:49] <bigga> come on! i had linux running on a 386
[19:49] <guntbert> !ot | bigga
[19:49] <bigga> sorry, didn't realise was OT
[19:50] <obscurant1st> how can i use ICS in wlan?
[19:50] <bigga> after all get one hooked into linux then graduate to ubuntu
[19:50] <LzrdKing> stego_: my user is in the audio group
[19:50] <obscurant1st> i have internet coming from eth0, i have to make an accesspoint so that i can connect my mobile to internet
[19:50] <obscurant1st> WIFI accesspoint
[19:51] <stego_> LzrdKing: the problem is user can not read the sound device because its not belong to it, in order it can read it, it should belong to the group that can read the device
[19:51] <obscurant1st> sombody pls help me!
[19:51] <stego_> LzrdKing: its the same concept with root
[19:52] <Qwell> Who colorized my nano?  About to stab somebody in the throat.
[19:52] <Goliath> i want to add a cover page
[19:52] <LzrdKing> stego_: why would it change when X starts?
[19:52] <Qwell> You don't change a mans editor.
[19:52] <stego_> LzrdKing: the root can read the device because the file belong to its
[19:52] <Goliath> at my openoffice document
[19:52] <Qwell> I'll deal with the stupid side-swapping min/max/close buttons.  I'll deal with the stupid theme changes.  But my editor?  Nosir.
[19:52] <LzrdKing> stego_: "groups" does NOT show audio as a group for the user! i must not have added the user correctly
[19:52] <guntbert> Goliath: #openoffice.org might be more helpful
[19:53] <stego_> LzrdKing: i think thats th issue
[19:53] <stego_> LzrdKing: i think thats *the issue
[19:53] <Spasysheep> 9.10 'karmic' I have two network connections, wlan0 and eth0; I want to share the internet connection from wlan0 to eth0 so a computer without wifi can get internet, without this computer losing it's internet connection. All the guides I can find on the internet on how to do this serve only to break all my connectivity. Help?
[19:53] <pistol> Spasysheep: you can do that with iptables, look at the forwarding rule
[19:53] <Spasysheep> pistol: O.O iptables is big and scary...
[19:53] <obscurant1st> Spasysheep, you tried this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[19:54] <obscurant1st> Spasysheep, i hv almost the sam issue, but in my canse the internet comes through wfi and i need to share it using WiFI
[19:55] <LzrdKing> stego_: here ya go, i DID add myself to the audio group, but i did NOT logout/login afterwards!
[19:55] <obscurant1st> i mean internet comes through eth
[19:55] <Spasysheep> hrmmm.. pistol, obscurant1st: thanks, I'll look at those methods
[19:55] <stego_> LzrdKing: hmm
[19:56] <LzrdKing> stego_: before i thank you profusely, let me check boxee
[19:56] <ary> what is the difference between append a new rep in /etc/apt/sources.list and to create a new file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:56] <obscurant1st> Spasysheep, i think in your case ubuntu 9.10 method will work
[19:56] <obscurant1st> somebody pls help me!
[19:56] <Goliath> how can i enable spellcheck
[19:56] <Goliath> in openoffice?
[19:57] <xplinux> ll vuze and than vuze work
[19:57]  * stego_ scratched head 
[19:58] <xplinux> i have many problems for install vuze and than vuze work
[19:59] <LzrdKing> stego_: it appears to be working; i won't know for sure till i get home tonight but thank you thank thank you
[19:59] <stego_> LzrdKing: your very welcome
[19:59] <erUSUL> ary: the later is more clean ? and is easier to script too
[19:59] <aar> is there a way of getting a list of who is currently connected to a SSH server?
[20:00] <LzrdKing> stego_: i still have the question of why X running or not mattered
[20:00] <erUSUL> aar: "w" will list all users in a system. including those accessing via ssh
[20:00] <Goliath> How can i enable spellcheck in openoffice?
[20:01] <stego_> LzrdKing: everything in linux is consider a file
[20:01] <aar> erUSUL, great thanks
[20:01] <guntbert> Goliath: why don't you ask open office questions in #openoffice.org ?
[20:01] <odie5533> How big is the ubuntu minimal install?
[20:01] <Goliath> noone is there
[20:02] <Hariharakadan> Goliath, I will poke around in it for you since no one is there.
[20:02] <stego_> LzrdKing: who access what in what time it will be partial
[20:02] <LzrdKing> stego_: you mean "black magic"
[20:02] <stego_> LzrdKing: lol
[20:02] <Fishscene> 66 people in #openoffice.org
[20:02] <Hariharakadan> http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/tutorial/Spellcheck_and_Thesaurus.html
[20:03] <Hariharakadan> oops. Goliath that link was for you.
[20:03] <CMoH|notebook> hello. how do I change sources.list repositories from ro.archive.ubuntu.com... and to what? apparently all packages give 404 on that mirror
[20:03] <ary> erUSUL: but is it the same?
[20:04] <erUSUL> ary: yes is the same
[20:04] <stego_> LzrdKing: in your situation its no correlation X and alsa as a file to be access to
[20:05] <ary> erUSUL: and apt search first in /etc/apt/sources.list and then in the individual files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xxx. Isn't it?
[20:05] <erUSUL> ary: think about it « cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* > complete_sources »
[20:05] <nicky> hi
[20:06] <guntbert> !hi | nicky
[20:06] <nicky> guntbert| i have a question
[20:06] <ary> erUSUL: ahh okey! thanks!
[20:06] <guntbert> !ask | nicky
[20:06] <nicky> guntbert| when i try to give eth0 a static ip networking tools does not indicate ive given it.
[20:07] <LzrdKing> stego_: i did not understand your last statement; can you please rephrase?
[20:07] <nicky> guntbert|if config does indicate that i have given it a static ip though
[20:07] <smith> is there a support channel for Gyache?
[20:07] <erUSUL> nicky: how did you configured the ip ?
[20:08] <guntbert> nicky: please omit the | at the end of nicks - it prevents highlighting the person
[20:08] <nicky> erusul sudo ifconfig eth0 address 192.168.1.1
[20:08] <smith> is there any support channels for Gyache?
[20:09] <stego_> LzrdKing: i still have the question of why X running or not mattered << its what you think but actually it don't i try to explain you for the last couple of statement
[20:09] <Fishscene> sounds like an incomplete command.
[20:09] <azertyuio> hi
[20:09] <nicky> guntbert??
[20:09] <azertyuio> how to check ubuntu version
[20:09] <azertyuio> ?
[20:10] <erUSUL> nicky: and if you do « ifconfig eth0 » after that command it shows no ip assigned ?
[20:10] <stego_> LzrdKing:  X running or not; is not mattered
[20:10] <azertyuio> installed on my ssys t
[20:10] <azertyuio> ?
[20:10] <erUSUL> !version | azertyuio
[20:10] <LzrdKing> stego_: it certainly seemed to
[20:10] <willer_> ei
[20:10] <Roasted_> SANDWICH
[20:10] <nicky> erusul: it shows ip assignment but in network tools it is different. right now it shows 127.0.0.1 for ipv4 :S
[20:10] <Roasted_> oh, I'm not in off topic chat. My apologies.
[20:10] <smith> any one know why people cannot see my webcam in gyache? I have give access to all users so they can see it
[20:10] <stego_> LzrdKing:  :)
[20:11] <erUSUL> nicky: 127.0.0.1 is lo's ip; not eth0's
[20:11] <erUSUL> nicky: loopback
[20:12] <strings_> nicky: change to the eth0 device in network tools
[20:12] <haffe> Hi. Are any of you into network security? How secure is WPA2+PSK?
[20:12] <CaptainTrek> erUSUL: any reason that a wifi card in Ubuntu would crash when it has 3+ sets of packet streams at once?
[20:12] <haffe> Are we talking takes an hour to crack?
[20:12] <strings_> haffe: wpa2 is pretty secure. atleast over wep
[20:12] <haffe> Assuming a 63digit random password that is.
[20:13] <erUSUL> CaptainTrek: buggy driver? no software is bug free... check kernel logs ...
[20:13] <Sensiva> I wan to scan a host for all open ports using nmap, how?
[20:13] <Fishscene> haffe: A lot more secure than wep. As of right now, it is difficult to crack.
[20:13] <guntbert> haffe: there is ##security, and there is ##networking  - here it is  off topic
[20:13] <CaptainTrek> erUSUL: got the commands I need to find kernel logs for the card?
[20:13] <haffe> guntbert: Ok.
[20:13] <stego_> LzrdKing: if you dont believe me try aplay *.wav whiteout starting X :)
[20:13] <bigga> erUSUL, you COULD configure it like that if you wanted to mind you
[20:14] <bigga> it's just convention
[20:14] <pingvinqq> hi everybody, i use ubuntu 9.10, and i wanna do so i can choose between 2 startup os, (between ubuntu and snow leopard) anybody can find a guide or somthing else?:)
[20:14] <azertyuio> how to install gnome on hosted server ?
[20:15] <erUSUL> CaptainTrek: logs are text files in /var/log/ messages syslog
[20:15] <erUSUL> CaptainTrek: you can use less to see them
[20:15] <genii> Sensiva: There are too many possible ways to explain adequately in here. Best just consult http://nmap.org/book/man.html and use which ones you need
[20:15] <Sensiva> genii's Website Title: ChapterÂ 15.Â Nmap Reference Guide
[20:15] <CaptainTrek> thanks erUSUL
[20:15] <azertyuio> how to install gnome on hosted server ?
[20:16] <LzrdKing> stego_: that worked before
[20:16] <pingvinqq> anybody help me?:)
[20:16] <lalalol> HELP needed lol, vlc sees random keys as pausekeys or quitkeys, when i restart it, its np, but i cant keep on restarting vlc...
[20:17] <genii> Sensiva: You may also want to turn off a script you have which is echoing back to the channel here the title of URLs which are directed to you
[20:17] <stego_> LzrdKing: it will always work as long as the user can access the device
[20:17] <Sensiva> genii yeah I have done it
[20:17] <Sensiva> sorry
[20:17] <strings_> azertyuio: apt-get install gnome-session. then install say gnome-panel. and gnome-terminal. along with whatever else you might need.
[20:17] <genii> Sensiva: Thanks
[20:18] <judgen> lalalol, Not just a new problem? Cant you downgrade one version or so if its just a recent problem?
[20:18] <azertyuio> sorry i want to install gnome on my local pc to an hosted server ?
[20:18] <azertyuio> that's the exact question
[20:18] <nikolam> pingvinqq, try insanelymac.com they have a wiki about osx on x86 pc s etc.
[20:18] <lalalol> judgen, since today, i have it installed for over a month, but today is the first day im using it :p
[20:18] <pingvinqq> thx !:D
[20:18] <strings_> azertyuio: hmm can you rephrase the question.
[20:20] <mb999> Hi. Anybody here know of issues with rhythmbox on 10.04 beta 2? Segfault in gstreamer.
[20:20] <azertyuio> how to install gnome on home pc to remote control hosted machine
[20:20] <FiReSTaRT> does anyone have any experience with setting up twinkle with stun? i wanna see if i can migrate from linphone to twinkle but i can't even connect to the stun server
[20:20] <strings_> azertyuio: that depends on the hosted enviroment. is the hosted machine running linux already?
[20:21] <lalalol> judgen, help plz?
[20:21] <Pici> mb999 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[20:21] <azertyuio> on the host i got ubuntu
[20:21] <azertyuio> on my home i got windows
[20:22] <strings_> azertyuio: and you need to run a gnome application on your windows machine? or you want to run gnome application from the hosted server?
[20:23] <azertyuio> for now to connect to remote machine i have to ssh
[20:23] <azertyuio> i just need a gnome solution
[20:24] <strings_> azertyuio: if you need to configure something useing gnome. I would install the gnome app on the hosted server. and install a X11 server on you windows machine. and use XForward through ssh
[20:26] <zylogz80> Does Ubuntu support the Intel GMA 4500MHD graphics card? I am unable to get desktop effects to work with 9.10 but they worked fine under 9.04
[20:26] <azertyuio> ok thanks
[20:26] <zylogz80> I've been researching but can't find a straight answer anywhere
[20:27] <Dr_Alien> Hi all
[20:27] <Dr_Alien> im having issues with the Vi editor
[20:28] <Dr_Alien> im running Ubuntu and im in a Vi edited document
[20:28] <Dr_Alien> ive just pressed the command :wp to save the document however the system is still in insert mode.
[20:28] <strings_> Dr_Alien: hit escape until you are out of insert mode
[20:30] <stego_> Dr_Alien: use nano it easier
[20:30] <Dr_Alien> Ok
[20:30] <Dr_Alien> where can i get Nano?
[20:30] <stego_> Dr_Alien: nano
[20:30] <Dr_Alien> yeah.
[20:31] <mb999> For command line editors, mcedit is a nice & easy one for people new to linux.
[20:31] <jerry_> anyone able to help me get xvid mpeg 4s to play? ive tried all sorts of things but no avail and i just did a fresh install of 9.10 the last 9.10 install i had was playing em, using a nvdia 8800 gtx with nvidia driver
[20:31] <Pici> Dr_Alien: its installed by default
[20:31] <Dr_Alien> Ok
[20:31] <jerry_> Dr_Alien, open terminal and type nano <filename>
[20:31] <Dr_Alien> Ive installed LAMP onto my server
[20:31] <Dr_Alien> 173.203.80.194
[20:31] <Dr_Alien> however its not currently running
[20:31] <Pici> !enter
[20:31] <stego_> !nano | Dr_Alien
[20:31] <maruen> hello guys, Anyone knows about some keyboard crash problem with ubuntu?
[20:31] <joshdreamland> Hi, I'm having trouble getting a liveUSB to remain persistent. And that's an epic understatement. I have tried absolutely everything to get this 8GB flash drive to just save my settings when I shut down, and nothing I've tried has worked. I've tried usb-creator, portablelinux, endless tutorials on pendrivelinux.com... Nothing works.
[20:32] <maruen> I don't know why , but sometimes my keyboard stops to work
[20:32]  * Dr_Alien nods thanks jerry, Pici and Stego for your help (and strings)
[20:32] <mean67> anyone in the boston area?
[20:32] <joshdreamland> It worked fine on my 2GB flash drive, but the new usb-creator on Karmic can't even work with my 8GB, and the one on Jaunty works but fails to make it persistent.
[20:32] <duffydack> joshdreamland, tried just installing it properly onto the flash stick?
[20:32] <guntbert> !ot | mean67
[20:33] <obscurant1st> can somebody pls tell me how can i use my wifi card to share internet connection for my iphone, by using internet from my eth0?
[20:33] <Dr_Alien> Hi guys, ive got one other issue. ive installed Ubuntu onto my cloud server. (and ive got lamp running via the groupped system) however it seems unable to work. wondered if any of you knew how to sort this.
[20:33] <mean67> not really OT
[20:33] <joshdreamland> Several individuals here have passed me walkthroughs which I've followed to the letter; not a one worked, obviously.
[20:33] <Pici> mean67: Try #ubuntu-us-ma for the Massachusetts LoCo Team
[20:33] <mean67> cause I was looking for some help in the area with Ubuntu
[20:33] <Dr_Alien> !ot | lamp
[20:33] <mean67> ahh
[20:33] <mean67> thanks
[20:33] <joshdreamland> does anyone else have a method of getting an 8GB flash drive to load Ubuntu persistently?
[20:34] <obscurant1st> pls anyone!
[20:34] <guntbert> Dr_Alien: try to ask in #ubuntu-server
[20:34] <Pici> !ics | obscurant1st
[20:34] <SpamapS> obscurant1st: you don't have an access point?
[20:35] <joshdreamland> duffydack: Managed to miss your reply; not used to pidgin quite yet. If I install it regularly, will it still work on other computers?
[20:35] <obscurant1st> SpamapS, i have an access point now
[20:35] <obscurant1st> i created one
[20:35] <joshdreamland> Or will it be specifically for this box from now on?
[20:35] <obscurant1st> my iphone i getting connected to it also, but no internet! SpamapS
[20:36] <joshdreamland> And further, why would it work on a 2GB but not an 8?
[20:37] <mean67> so anyone use UEC
[20:38] <Pici> mean67: If you have have questions about UEC, best to ask in #ubuntu-server, you'll have a better chance of a response
[20:39] <duffydack> joshdreamland,  im not 100% sure.  I assume it would be ok.
[20:39] <erUSUL> !ics | nicky
[20:40] <duffydack> joshdreamland, unless you try and config a custom xorg.conf or somthing I dont see many problems with a different pc..
[20:40] <informatica> hi everybody (my english is not very well)... one question... y have a lot machines with ubuntu karmic 9.10 and xubunt 9.10.... I create a mirror ubuntu and my question is: a mirror for medibuntu in karmic mirror, is useful for 10.4 ubuntu mirror too ?
[20:41] <zylogz80> Does anyone know how to enable desktop effects with an Intel 4500MHD in 9.10? My machine is unusably slow with Xorg grabbing 40%-90% CPU at idle.
[20:41] <mean67> thanks
[20:41] <joshdreamland> duffydack: didn't 9.10 do away with xorg.conf?
[20:41] <zylogz80> It was working fine in 9.04
[20:41] <duffydack> joshdreamland, yeah, thats what I mean..  everything is autodetected
[20:42] <joshdreamland> I see
[20:42] <duffydack> joshdreamland, but making an xorg.conf might stop it booting on another pc
[20:42] <uvacav> anyone know of a daily wine build for ubuntu? opensuse has rpm one but cant find one for ubuntu anywehre
[20:42] <erUSUL> !ppa | uvacav
[20:42] <erUSUL> uvacav: there is wine ppa with stable builds
[20:43] <duffydack> joshdreamland, I dont see why you cant make a liveusb with persis tho.. its pretty straight forward..
[20:44] <rocket16> I am using Evolution and Gnote to synchronize using Conduit, and all worked well, but in Evolution Memos, I find that HTML-Like scripts of GNotes files are present. How can I remove them? Also, is there any way to use GNotes from Evolution? Like Kjots in Kontact?
[20:44] <uvacav> erUSUL: i think the ppa still has 1.1.42 in it and i need a patch thats newer than 1.1.43. I think the ppa only has actual dev releases and i need a snapshot from git
[20:45] <dekroning> for some reason my monitor jumps into standby mode every 20min, anyone know how to turn this off?
[20:45] <duffydack> joshdreamland,  when Ive done it, i just made a fat32 partition and then used usb-creator and told it how much persistence..job done..
[20:45] <trelane> are you guys planning to revert back to an open office that doesn't blow chunks before release?
[20:45] <erUSUL> uvacav: then i dunno
[20:45] <llutz> dekroning: set -dpms
[20:45] <trelane> ooh no, it's released so, on
[20:45] <trelane> no
[20:46] <amosek> dekor
[20:46] <obscurant1st> Pici, it is not working!
[20:47] <crucialhoax> srsly?
[20:48] <Wizzup> I keep getting this error message whenever I try to connect with networkingmanager-openvnc: The VPN connection failed because there were no valid VPN secrets
[20:48] <dekroning> llutz: thanks i see it's at standby 1200   and suspend: 1800  of: 2400  indeed, thanks a lot
[20:48] <Wizzup> openvpn*
[20:48] <g0r3_0f_g0d> hi all
[20:48] <Wizzup> It doesn't really make sense to me; all the config is correct. The server is fine too
[20:49] <Pici> obscurant1st: Please ask your question to the channel.
[20:49] <obscurant1st> can somebody pls tell me how can i use my wifi card to share internet connection for my iphone, by using internet from my eth0?
[20:49] <obscurant1st> i have installed firestarter
[20:49] <obscurant1st> and shared the connection
[20:50] <obscurant1st> but still there is no connectivity in my phone
[20:50] <zylogz80> So was support for Intel graphics pulled in 9.10 or something? What's up? Why can't I enable compositing? There's no solid info anywhere. Is there a driver available? It thought stuff like this was solved a long time ago.
[20:51] <dekroning> llutz: do you know if this is can be triggered as well? e.g. i want to turn the screen in standby at a certain time?
[20:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d>  /set irc_conf_mode on
[20:52] <llutz> dekroning: please look at "man xset", iirc there is an option for that
[20:52] <crucialhoax> g0r3_0f_g0d: Its 1 not `on`
[20:52] <dekroning> llutz: great, thanks a lot
[20:52] <g0r3_0f_g0d> ya see now
[20:52] <g0r3_0f_g0d> thx
[20:52] <crucialhoax> np
[20:53] <g0r3_0f_g0d> not sure why xchat siply doesnt have an option for that
[20:54] <janisozaur> how come eye of gnome doesn't display animated gifs?
[20:55] <genii> obscurant1st: Can you set a static IP, manual gateway,etc for a wifi connection on the iphone? If it only has something like "autoconnect" you may need to have a dhcp server on the wifi card
[20:55] <g0r3_0f_g0d> my question is , is there a volume management like in redhat in ubuntu , i mean like lvdisplay and so on
[20:56] <ldlework> su is giving me authentication issues, even though sudo works. Anyone know what's up?
[20:56] <g0r3_0f_g0d> or for that matter zfs support even
[20:56] <guntbert> !root | ldlework
[20:56] <crucialhoax> IdleOne: su does not work in Ubuntu. su is sudo basically. ^^ read that.
[20:56] <tlvb> ldlework: use sudo -s
[20:56] <ldlework> guntbert, I can do sudo, I can't su
[20:57] <ldlework> Oh okay
[20:57] <BedMan> how would one re-create /etc/ldap/schema/* ?
[20:57] <orhan> any one help me?
[20:57] <guntbert> ldlework: thats how its supposed to work - did you read what I sent you?
[20:57] <ldlework> guntbert, I just say 'oh okay'
[20:57] <deuckat> Hi, the fules on my HDD are reading X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*
[20:57] <deuckat> what is the problem
[20:57] <orhan> how to disable grub
[20:58] <_romeo_> my linuxdcpp crashes everytime after few seconds
[20:58] <orhan> i cant format this machine
[20:58] <_romeo_> BUS error
[20:58] <orhan> on usb
[20:58] <guntbert> orhan: you need a boot manager
[20:58] <_romeo_> can anybody please help
[20:58] <Pici> deuckat: What? Thats the contents of the EIRCAR test file.
[20:58] <crucialhoax> dear god. One line please, very hard to follow lol
[20:58] <deuckat> ok
[21:00] <BedMan> Is there a way to determine which package installed a file?
[21:00] <erUSUL> BedMan: dpkg -S /full/path/to/file
[21:00] <llutz> BedMan: dpkg -S file
[21:00] <BedMan> thx
[21:01] <orhan> i install boot manager
[21:01] <orhan> than
[21:01] <orhan> guntbert
[21:02] <obscurant1st> genii, i selected the static thing, and gave in the same range as i have given for wlan0
[21:02] <quaji> hi. I'm looking for a command line image viewer that allows showing an image at full screen, while stretching it to fit (not maintaining aspect ratio). Does anyone have an idea?
[21:02] <bazuka> chello
[21:02] <erUSUL> quaji: what do you mean by "command line" able to display images without an Xserver ?
[21:03] <dekroning> is there a way to display all current X display names running? i'm trying to use "xset -display :0 -q"  but this gives me an no such display name, error, however i'm almost certain that :0 is the correct name, since i see this in my ps ouptut
[21:04] <crucialhoax>  dekroning xrandr
[21:04] <AcePreshaw> ghjkl;p[]
[21:04] <AcePreshaw> helo room
[21:04] <quaji> erUSUL: I mean that it takes its settings via command line options, not (only) via GUI interface.
[21:04] <dekroning> crucialhoax: Screen 0:
[21:04] <AcePreshaw> sup room
[21:04] <crucialhoax> dekroning: Which is inverse of what you typed in...
[21:04] <BedMan> dekroning: just export DISPLAY=:0 then succeeding shell commands use that environment variable
[21:04] <dekroning> crucialhoax: that means name is   0:   then
[21:05] <erUSUL> quaji: display from imagemagik ?
[21:05] <mgj> What is the sound-control widget/application called?
[21:05] <dekroning> BedMan: ah oke
[21:05] <Hariharakadan> !hi | AcePreshaw
[21:05] <mgj> What is the sound-control widget/application called? The one you can click and then adjust the volume
[21:05] <Darxus> My gconfd stopped loading.  Is this a wide spread new problem, or am I the only one?
[21:05] <pfifo> dose ubuntu have a typing tutor program?
[21:05] <AcePreshaw> !hi
[21:06] <Pici> pfifo: There are a few, gtypist or tuxtype for example
[21:06] <dekroning> BedMan: hmm i'm still getting: http://www.pastie.org/928583
[21:06] <orhan> some help me once more
[21:06] <pfifo> pici, dvorak?
[21:06] <AcePreshaw> !pm
[21:06] <crucialhoax> mgj: gnome-volume-control possibly?
[21:06] <quaji> erUSUL: tried it. AFAICT it doesn't have a full screen option.
[21:06] <AcePreshaw> !ban
[21:06] <Pici> pfifo: er, I see dvorak7min, I don't know if the ones I mentioned before support dvorak.
[21:06] <orhan> some one help me ?
[21:07] <crucialhoax> !ask orhan
[21:07] <pfifo> pici, ty
[21:07] <BedMan> dekroning: well... you have to be in the same shell...
[21:07] <crucialhoax> !ask > orhan
[21:07] <zenlunatic> orhan, what
[21:07] <orhan> i cant boot ...
[21:07] <dekroning> BedMan: ah... i'm trying to run it from a ssh login ;-)
[21:07] <orhan> i instaal xp but i cant boot this machin from usb
[21:07] <zenlunatic> hm well that sums it up
[21:07] <orhan> i cant disable grub
[21:07] <mgj> crucialhoax, no, thats not the one. I just want the widget thats normally placed in the system tray
[21:07] <CaptainTrek> orhan: did you check the BIOS?
[21:07] <zenlunatic> orhan, what are you asking
[21:07] <BedMan> dekroning: ssh should retain the setting of your DISPLAY variable
[21:07] <dekroning> BedMan: it's a remote machine and i'm not able to connect to it via vnc or anything, i was hoping i could do it from the commandline
[21:08] <orhan> yes i check
[21:08] <CaptainTrek> orhan: check the BIOS to see if USB/removable devices is first in boot order
[21:08] <orhan> this machine is netbook
[21:08] <crucialhoax> mgj: Not sure of the command, but it is grouped with the indicator applet.
[21:08] <orhan> and i remove ubuntu
[21:08] <orhan> but i cant
[21:08] <zenlunatic> most netbooks have usb boot... not many other options
[21:08] <BedMan> dekroning: you can... make sure to use X11-tunneling with your ssh configuration...
[21:08] <orhan> i know
[21:08] <mgj> crucialhoax, hmm. The thing is, i want that volume control in fluxbox as well
[21:08] <BedMan> dekroning: try ssh -Y hostname to get there in the first place
[21:08] <orhan> but XP reboot cant start
[21:08] <g0r3_0f_g0d> ok i see the orhan's issue , after removing linux partition grub stayed in mbr
[21:09] <dekroning> BedMan: ah i see the problem, it's because i have to do it as root ofcourse since root started X via gdm at boot up
[21:09] <orhan> mbr?
[21:09] <g0r3_0f_g0d> you need to clean mbr
[21:09] <zenlunatic> orhan, you probably hosed xp with grub
[21:09] <AcePreshaw> !hi
[21:09] <g0r3_0f_g0d> master boot record
[21:09] <dekroning> BedMan: thanks for realizing that
[21:09] <AcePreshaw> !grub
[21:09] <AcePreshaw> !sex
[21:09] <orhan> how to clean
[21:09] <Darxus> No, gconfd is running, but nothing can connect to it.
[21:09] <BedMan> dekroning: good luck - ssh + x11 is quite complicated :)
[21:09] <zenlunatic> orhan, grub-install and chainloader
[21:09] <zenlunatic> orhan, grub-install and chainloader
[21:09] <zenlunatic> woops
[21:09] <FloodBot4> zenlunatic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:10] <g0r3_0f_g0d> actually orhan wants to remove it for windows to boot again not reinstate it presumably
[21:10] <crucialhoax> mgj: i I see. Not sure about that. Maybe ask again and wait to see if anyone knows anything.
[21:10] <zenlunatic> well than why is he here
[21:10] <g0r3_0f_g0d> i thought windows cds had the mbr option
[21:10] <zenlunatic> that is windows question
[21:10] <orhan> :(
[21:10] <g0r3_0f_g0d> coincidently it was ubuntu that he removed :P
[21:11] <mgj> What is the sound-control widget/application called? The one you can click and then adjust the volume. I want that volume control in fluxbox as well.
[21:11] <orhan> if i disale grub i boot usb
[21:11] <mgj> g0r3_0f_g0d, you have no control over the bootloader when installing windows
[21:11] <zenlunatic> mgj, i think its in notifier which includes sound and wifi etc
[21:11] <Hariharakadan> I got a solution to that orhan. May I PM you?
[21:12] <BedMan> How can you verify a package is completely installed?
[21:12] <g0r3_0f_g0d> i'm not windows expert , thought they had somma like fdisk or format stuff
[21:12] <orhan> ok
[21:12] <mgj> zenlunatic, "notifier" ? I have no such application it seems
[21:12] <LinuxGuy2009> BedMan: execute it
[21:12] <joshdreamland> Can anyone tell me how to resize the amount of space allocated to Casper?
[21:12] <nicky__> hi does anyone know how i can turn off my lcd when im not using it?
[21:12] <gui77> ello
[21:12] <joshdreamland> I believe it's stored as a partition in a file somewhere on the live USB
[21:12] <LinuxGuy2009> nicky__: push the power button
[21:12] <gui77> i have a corrupt ubuntu installation, how may i repair/fix it without losing my files=
[21:12] <gui77> ?
[21:13] <nicky__> linuxguy: i want to leave the computer on idle
[21:13] <LinuxGuy2009> nicky__: power options
[21:13] <mgj> zenlunatic, the wifi applet is called nm-applet if that helps any
[21:13] <nicky__> linuxguy: there is no power options here in gnome
[21:13] <crucialhoax> ?
[21:13] <LinuxGuy2009> nicky__: System->Preferences->Power Management
[21:13] <LinuxGuy2009> nicky__: Set the timeout for dim display
[21:14] <zenlunatic> mgj, try notification area
[21:14] <makah> Hi, how can I copy multiple files to other file names, for example, i have 2 .cfg files (name1.cfg and name2.cfg) and i want to copy them, for example, name1.old.cfg and name2.old.cfg ? i hope you got the point, thank you in advance.
[21:14] <mgj> zenlunatic, hmm? I need a command / program / applet that i can actually run
[21:14] <zenlunatic> gui77, did you install on one / or seperate partitions
[21:14] <mgj> What is the sound-control widget/application called? The one you can click and then adjust the volume. I want that volume control in fluxbox as well. I found the network manager which is called nm-applet but i have been unable to find the sound applet.
[21:15] <genii> obscurant1st: Apologies on lag, work has become busy. Did you put for the gateway the IP of wlan0? Also if there is somewhere for nameservers you may want to put entries there which correspond to what your ISP is using, or possibly the IP of the router which is attached to eth0
[21:15] <zenlunatic> mgj, alsa-mixer?
[21:15] <LinuxGuy2009> makah: YouTube and Google have great videos and guides on basic terminal commands such as that.
[21:15] <g0r3_0f_g0d> makah, try for i in `ls` ; do cp $i $i.old; done
[21:15] <mgj> zenlunatic, alsa-mixer works, but its not what im looking for
[21:15] <zenlunatic> mgj, alsamixer
[21:15] <narselon> I just upgraded to lucid and I'm getting an "Fatal: Root visual is not a GL visual" error when I try to start compiz and nautilus only loads the desktop variation
[21:15] <mgj> zenlunatic, i want that volume applet that comes default with gnome
[21:15] <mgj> ehh
[21:15] <LinuxGuy2009> narselon: #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[21:15] <mgj> default with ubuntu in gnome rather
[21:15] <BedMan> makah: you would need to use a script of some sort, bash allows you to use for loops to do that pretty easily
[21:16] <zenlunatic> mgj, im out of suggestions, sorry
[21:16] <Klevi> Question: how do i change where the default notification popup appears from applications like pidgin/xchat/ etc in nbr
[21:16] <beppo> hello
[21:17] <LinuxGuy2009> Klevi: applets dont appear to be moveable in netbook remix
[21:17] <BedMan> makah: for file in <list of files>; do mv $file `echo $file | sed 's/x/y/'`; done
[21:17] <beppo> i deleted my /etc/slapd directory cause i thought apt-get install slapd would regenerate it
[21:17] <beppo> but it didn't
[21:17] <Guest85223> My co-worker cannot get sound to work with 9.10 on her vmfusion laptop.  Can someone make a suggestion?  It has been a while since I've had to fix one of these.
[21:17] <BedMan> makah: where x and y are the changes to the filenames... (from and to)
[21:17] <Pici> BedMan, makah: or just use 'rename' , see man rename
[21:18] <makah> k thx
[21:18] <BedMan> Pici: but that's no fun :-) and not automated
[21:18] <h00k> ubottu: tell Guest85223 about sound
[21:18] <LinuxGuy2009> Klevi: Im running lucid netbook remix on my Dell Mini and the applets are not movable. Not sure about older versions.
[21:18] <gus_> hello
[21:18] <gus_> ??
[21:18] <Klevi> ... well, its the notification. the taskbar is cool where it is, but say when somone msgs me and pidgon is out of focus and it popsup with the msg in the topright.. i want to edit that if possible ( LinuxGuy2009 )
[21:18] <BedMan> !hi gus_
[21:18] <gus_> BedMan: hello can i ask for some help??
[21:18] <BedMan> !hi | gus_
[21:19] <zvacet> !ask | gus_
[21:19] <ldlework> Why can't I find, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/postgresql-8.4/8.4.3-1~jaunty1 in Synaptic Package Manager?
[21:19] <LinuxGuy2009> Klevi: You can run regular gnome and move the notification applet anywhere on any panel.
[21:19] <Klevi> LinuxGuy2009,  how may i do that
[21:19] <BedMan> gus_: that's the idea :)
[21:19] <gus_> im using virtualbox, i have a 64-bit pc but i can't seem to install windows 7 on virtual box because it declines 64-bit support
[21:20] <gus_> how do i change that?
[21:20] <iceroot> gus_: enable vt-x
[21:20] <LinuxGuy2009> ldlework: make sure you have main, universe, restricted, multiverse all added as sources in order to see all packages.
[21:20] <iceroot> gus_: or the amd-thing from which i forgot the name
[21:20] <gus_> how do i enable vt-x?
[21:20] <mgj> What is the name of the sound mixer applet? The wifi/network one is called nm-applet, but i cannot find the sound one
[21:20] <iceroot> gus_: have a look at the vbox manual
[21:20] <Klevi> gus_, you need a procesor that has virtual emulation support for 64 bit os's
[21:20] <Guest85223> Hmm.  I haven't used ubottu.
[21:20] <LinuxGuy2009> Klevi: In regular gnome session you can right click on an applet unlock/lock, and move them.
[21:20] <Klevi> if its 32, then it will run fine, gus_
[21:21] <gus_> ah-ok
[21:21] <crucialhoax> cya all later,
[21:21] <Guest85223> I have the thread ubottu,...???
[21:21] <zvacet> gus_ : Ithink you have to change something in bios but don´ remember what
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> gus_, in order to install 64bit your CPU must support virtualization.  Are you using AMD or Intel CPU.
[21:21] <gus_> Guest85223: you know ubottu is just an automated bot right?
[21:21] <Klevi> Oh, i have to relog while using regular gnome?
[21:21] <ldlework> LinuxGuy2009, Thanks
[21:22] <geoaxis> hello, is there a way to install some other linux distro from within ubuntu
[21:22] <Guest85223> gus_:  I don't know how to exercise it though.
[21:22] <Klevi> LinuxGuy2009 ^
[21:22] <LinuxGuy2009> ldlework: Your Welcome
[21:22] <iceroot> gus_: with vbox for example
[21:22] <gus_> ZykoticK9: its intel, dual core
[21:22] <geoaxis> and on the real drive
[21:22] <Guest85223> I have the ubottu thread next to this one .
[21:22] <iceroot> geoaxis: with vbox for example
[21:22] <LinuxGuy2009> Klevi: Good?
[21:22] <Guest60379> gus_: low end core2 can have 64 native but not 64 virtual
[21:22] <ZykoticK9> gus_, to verify your cpu support virtualization "grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo"
[21:22] <bushbaby> geoaxix: dual booting or virtual box
[21:22] <geoaxis> iceroot: but that would isntall to a virtualized env
[21:22] <iceroot> gus_: look at the vbox properties and search for vt-x
[21:22] <ZykoticK9> gus_, if you get output - it does
[21:22] <duffydack> Enable PAE in vbox?
[21:22] <iceroot> geoaxis: yes, also you can use dualboot
[21:22] <bushbaby> geoaxix: ignore dual booting.. i missed 'from within ubuntu'
[21:23] <geoaxis> iceroot: i know
[21:23] <gus_> ah ok, do i plug that as a command in the terminal
[21:23] <iceroot> geoaxis: there are no other ways
[21:23] <Klevi> LinuxGuy2009, i forgot to tage you in my prev question ( I have to relog in while using regular gnome to get the normal desktop? )
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> gus_, yes
[21:23] <Klevi> *tag
[21:23] <xcyclist> I guess I am xcyclist now.
[21:23] <gus_> ZykoticK9: ok thanks im going to check it out
[21:23] <geoaxis> iceroot, lets see, if i install ubuntu on lets say a virtual disk
[21:23] <geoaxis> then make a clone of that disk
[21:23] <geoaxis> and then recover that disk in real partition
[21:24] <geoaxis> that might work
[21:24] <LinuxGuy2009> Klevi: Umm not sure what release your on. May be in login screen under session, or you may have to disable the automatic startup of maximus etc to prevent netbook mode.
[21:24] <h00k> !virtualbox | geoaxis
[21:24] <geoaxis> (clone of the disk with clonezilla)
[21:24] <xcyclist> gus_:  Is it something I can learn about from nickserv or some other help?
[21:24] <LinuxGuy2009> Klevi: In lucid its under session I know that/
[21:25] <Klevi> *nods* how do i upgrade from 9.10 to Lucid? LinuxGuy2009
[21:25] <geoaxis> h00k:  i know what it is, i am trying to explore an alternate solution to installation, i have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/416499
[21:25] <h00k> Klevi: head to #ubuntu+1  for Lucid support
[21:25]  * Klevi nods
[21:25] <geoaxis> i cannot see any paritions in the disk (when i boot from ubuntu installer)
[21:25] <g0r3_0f_g0d> geoaxis, totally confusing now
[21:26] <geoaxis> i actuall had to clone windows, then install linux and then restore windows to get a dual boot working
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> Klevi: Lucid is not released until April 29, support can be found at #ubuntu+1 and you are free to download beta2 and test at ubuntu website. The release candidate is released tommorow I believe.
[21:26] <gus_> got it, yeah my processor doesn't support 64-bit virtualation support
[21:26] <zvacet> geoaxis : it is easier if windows are installed first
[21:26] <gus_> thanks for the help guys
[21:27] <geoaxis> zvacet: read the bug
[21:27] <g0r3_0f_g0d> cloning linux instead of installing it is weird
[21:27] <LinuxGuy2009> g0r3_0f_g0d: Clonezilla
[21:27] <beppo> how can i regenerate /etc/ldap directory ?
[21:27] <geoaxis> zvacet: i know, i have been doing the same for 10 years
[21:27] <geoaxis> just this dam GPT partitions has some special error with my hardware
[21:28] <duffydack> doesnt vista/7 make it a gpt when you resize the partition in windows?
[21:28] <duffydack> or soemthing...
[21:28] <xcyclist> This really stinks.  There should be simple reference to how to use this stupid ubottu.  Come on.
[21:29] <geoaxis> duffydack: in my installer it makes it a GPT from base install
[21:29] <zvacet> geoaxis : that is too much for me I can not help you with that sorry
[21:29] <h00k> ubottu: factoids | xcyclist
[21:29] <geoaxis> zvacet: let me try virtualbox and clonezilla
[21:29] <zvacet> geoaxis : ok
[21:30] <g0r3_0f_g0d> windows 7 messing stuff up i see
[21:31] <duffydack> geoaxis, so your windows install cd is making it gpt?  is it something thats come with your pc?
[21:31] <gus_> another question, im playing some media on my computer but it seems like my codec lags with high resolution media playing
[21:32] <gus_> is there a way to adjust vlc to specific hd media playback??
[21:33] <xcyclist> This is really useless guys.  There should be a simple command set.  What is this ubottu thing?
[21:33] <Tapout> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal ?
[21:33] <Tapout> i don't have a mouse on that machine
[21:33] <jrib> Tapout: only if you create one in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[21:34] <g0r3_0f_g0d> alt+f1 accessories , terminal?
[21:34] <amosek> Tapout: alt+f2 and then xterm
[21:34] <h00k> s/xterm/gnome-terminal
[21:34] <h00k> /
[21:34] <Tapout> thanks
[21:34] <amosek> h00k: :D
[21:34] <gus_> can anyone help me with vlc?
[21:35] <DaZler> ребят, помогите кто знает, как поднять wlan0 вместе с загрузкой ОС
[21:35] <idlemind_> so who's a guru w/compiling kernels?
[21:35] <federico> which is the chanel for lucid suport?
[21:35] <h00k> !pl | DaZler
[21:35] <LinuxGuy2009> gus_: Whats your real question?
[21:35] <h00k> federico: #ubuntu+1
[21:35] <federico> thanks
[21:35] <idlemind_> #ubuntu+1
[21:36] <LinuxGuy2009> gus_: Trying to play DVDs or what?
[21:36] <Losha> !ru | DaZler
[21:36] <amosek> h00k: thats not polish!
[21:36] <h00k> amosek: I tried :/
[21:36] <duffydack> gus_,  is it a laptop?  maybe the cpu is being fully used.
[21:36] <EagleScreen> !lucid | idlemind_
[21:36] <DaZler> thank's
[21:36] <LzrdKing> de dsfjk wekjh bsa xcbv fodiroe
[21:36] <Losha> h00k: it's Russian...
[21:36] <h00k> Losha: I see that now :)
[21:36] <duffydack> gus, *is not*
[21:36] <lategan> I am looking for a nice widget programme - any sugestions?
[21:37] <lichu> hii
[21:37] <Losha> h00k: :-)
[21:37] <lichu> holaa
[21:37] <lichu> i need help
[21:37] <Savan> Iam a new ubuntu user..I installed U-9.10...but after starting it is strucking..can any one help me out?
[21:37] <Losha> lichu: ask a question...
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> lategan: Try KDE or screenlets or desklets.
[21:37] <lichu> i need to run with a foxpro applicattion
[21:37] <amosek> heh sorry for offtopic but lyon just lost 1:0 :(
[21:37] <lichu> is a software that i use in windows
[21:38] <g0r3_0f_g0d> amosek, lousy game
[21:38] <LinuxGuy2009> lategan: KDE plasma widgets are nice
[21:38] <lategan> Linux..I run 10.04 beta 2
[21:38] <padhu> screen size changed in one user. How can i refix it
[21:38] <h00k> lategan: head over to #ubuntu+1
[21:38] <lategan> screenlets
[21:38] <Savan> Iam a new ubuntu user..I installed U-9.10...but after starting it is strucking..can any one help me out?
[21:38] <lichu> cygwin any know?
[21:38] <idlemind_> savan: strucking?
[21:38] <g0r3_0f_g0d> strucking?
[21:38] <padhu> lategan: what
[21:38] <amosek> strucking?
[21:38] <lichu> what i have to do any body help
[21:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Savan: sucking?
[21:38] <lategan> Linux..must I run KDE for that?
[21:39] <NeedleInYourArms> ok so i was in here the other day with a fan issue i wouldnt turn off it kept running on high and someone in here helped me fix it but i had to reinstall so now i have to do the fix again and i cant seem to find it
[21:39] <h00k> lategan: head to #ubuntu+1 if you're running Lucid
[21:39] <LinuxGuy2009>  lategan: For plasma widgets?
[21:39] <Savan> gor3:ya itis not working I mean keybord and mouse are not working..
[21:39] <LinuxGuy2009>  lategan: Or you mean screenlets? screenlets work fine on any desktop.
[21:39] <amosek> Savan: not working at all?
[21:40] <Savan> yes
[21:40] <lategan> ok - I will try screenlets
[21:40] <odie5533> how big is a server cli install?
[21:40] <amosek> Savan: was it working during installation?
[21:40] <g0r3_0f_g0d> ok Savan , try alt+ctrl+f2 and try to log in
[21:40] <lategan> I have downloaded screenlets - but how do I install?
[21:40] <Savan> amo:Yes
[21:40] <idlemind_> ubuntu 8.04 lts ... how can i view as icons but not have it auto-preview a files contents?
[21:40] <h00k> !requirements | odie5533
[21:41] <lichu> cygwin any body know¡?
[21:41] <LinuxGuy2009> lategan: Why not just "sudo apt-get install screenlets" or install with software center, synaptic etc
[21:41] <g0r3_0f_g0d> to the text mode , check the log under /var/log/messages
[21:41] <h00k> lichu: what is your actual question?
[21:41] <lategan> let me try - will come back now now
[21:41] <lichu> i need run applications in linux that is in foxpro
[21:41] <janisozaur> how do I display animated gifs (using image viewer and not web browser
[21:41] <padhu> When i am playing AOE2 in ubuntu screen size is changed to 800 X 600 automatically. But now it can't restore to 1024 X 768. How can i change it
[21:42] <lichu> ok
[21:42] <LinuxGuy2009> janisozaur: Have you tried eye of gnome or something simaler?
[21:42] <janisozaur> LinuxGuy2009: eog displays only first frame
[21:42] <LinuxGuy2009> janisozaur: Ah hmm
[21:42] <janisozaur> LinuxGuy2009: just like feh, okular
[21:42] <Savan> gor3:okey i will try and come soon
[21:42] <duffydack> janisozaur, right click and choose the program or properties and change it to what the primary program you want to open)
[21:43] <h00k> ubottu: appdb | lichu
[21:43] <janisozaur> duffydack: the problem is I do not know which program do I want
[21:43] <LinuxGuy2009> duffydack: Thats not what he is asking. Most apps only show the first frame of an animated gif.
[21:43] <amosek> lichu: if not wine then how about migrating? http://www.recital.com/index.htm?/articles/cm/foxproMigration/foxpro2linux.htm&mainFrame
[21:43] <duffydack> janisozaur, just "image viewer" is good enough
[21:43] <crazy90> hi all
[21:43] <janisozaur> duffydack: it's called eye of gnome
[21:43] <LinuxGuy2009> duffydack: image viewer is eye of gnome is it not?
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> Yeah it doesnt work
[21:44] <janisozaur> duffydack: and no, it doesn't display animations
[21:44] <duffydack> LinuxGuy2009, janisozaur well both image viewer (EOG) ad gthumb display them ok ..
[21:44] <crazy90> anyone known mysql, because I have a problem in connecting to server
[21:45] <LinuxGuy2009> duffydack: Yes you are correct. My bad.
[21:45] <amosek> crazy90: try /join mysql
[21:45] <hacked_kernel> Have any one installed Synapse IM on Ubuntu Karmic?
[21:45] <duffydack> LinuxGuy2009, janisozaur although I am using lucid.. ..
[21:45] <LinuxGuy2009> janisozaur: duffydack is corect eye of gnome does disdplay animated gifs correctly.
[21:45] <KB1JWQ> That's #mysql.
[21:45] <LinuxGuy2009> Lucid here too
[21:46] <crazy90> thx <KB1JWQ>
[21:46] <janisozaur> LinuxGuy2009: ah, still karmic. maybe they've added this feature
[21:46] <amosek> KB1JWQ: /join mysql works for me
[21:46] <KB1JWQ> amosek: Then your client is assuming things it potentially shouldn't.
[21:46] <duffydack> janisozaur, tried gthumb?  its a decent viewer app..  use it all the time.
[21:47] <amosek> KB1JWQ: ok
[21:47] <KB1JWQ> #linux is not ##linux, for instance.
[21:47] <LinuxGuy2009> janisozaur: You sure the gif you have is animated?
[21:47] <janisozaur> LinuxGuy2009, duffydack: gthumb works, though it looks to be animated slower than in a web browser. does the trick even though
[21:47] <lategan> linuxGuy - Thank you very much..its there now
[21:48] <LinuxGuy2009> lategan: Your welcome
[21:48] <LinuxGuy2009> janisozaur: Oh ok, so your good now then?
[21:48] <lategan> second q.....I use XChat..how do I get it that the people that joins and quits dont show in the window?
[21:48] <janisozaur> LinuxGuy2009: yup, ty.
[21:48] <CaptainTrek> lategan: ask in #xchat
[21:48] <lategan> cool
[21:48] <lategan> thanks
[21:48] <duffydack> janisozaur, well it displays them proper speed in image viewer and gthumb on lucid.. lucid is rc tomorrow, give a try.
[21:49] <LinuxGuy2009> lategan: Not sure but that would most likely be in a menu option if its a GUI app.'
[21:49] <CaptainTrek> linuxguy2009: xchat is gui
[21:49] <janisozaur> duffydack: I usually test a few dailies in a week ;)
[21:49] <duffydack> :)
[21:49] <LinuxGuy2009> Yeah Lucid is a beauty.
[21:50] <Losha> lategan: right click on the channel tab and uncheck "show join/part messages"...
[21:51] <padhu> friends, My screen resolution was changed accidently. How can i restore it?
[21:51] <LinuxGuy2009> padhu: System->preferences->Monitors?
[21:51] <makah> I have two files which contains, for example, this info: (file1.cfg: foo 192.168.123 and file2.cfg: foo 192.168.123). Now i need to rename the foo to "bar" in all files. How can I do it automatically, bash script or smth, thank you in advance.
[21:51] <LinuxGuy2009> padhu: Im running Lucid so thats what mine says.
[21:52] <padhu> LinuxGuy2009: it shows correct. and It was caused for one user. but for others, it is normal
[21:53] <LinuxGuy2009> makah: Highly recomend you go read some sites or watch videos on the basic linux commands.
[21:53] <LzrdKing> linux videos?
[21:53] <LinuxGuy2009> YouTube has great videos for basic terminal usage and commands.'
[21:53] <padhu>  LinuxGuy2009: i was made it before. but now i stuck up
[21:53] <makah> well I have to use grep, right?
[21:53] <janisozaur> makah: "man sed", look for s//
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:54] <padhu> what is the filename to edit it/
[21:55] <gothenburg> hi
[21:55] <ugliefrog> i have a popup that says enter password for keyring "default" to unlock....i enter my user name pw and it says incorect....first of all what the hek is it and how do i make it accept the pw
[21:55] <joshdreamland> duffydack: I managed to get the 8GB flash drive booting persistently by having usb-creator make a 2GB One, then copying over the files. Is there a way to increase the allocated size now? GParted isn't an option; usb-creator doesn't use a partition for persistence, but a file. Is there a way to open that file in GParted
[21:55] <gspence___> has anyone experienced problems with the network speed of lucid lynx...i'm not talking internet speed but actually slow connection when transferring files over samba on eth0? any suggestions?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | gspence___
[21:56] <penthief> Somethings wrong. When I sudo bash, it hangs forever. Any ideas?
[21:56] <LinuxGuy2009> gspence___: Yeah web page loading is 3-4 times as long as 9.04 installation.
[21:56] <LinuxGuy2009> gspence___: #ubuntu+1 BTW
[21:56] <duffydack> joshdreamland, what filesystem dif you format the usb stick ?
[21:57] <joshdreamland> it's FAT32
[21:57] <gspence___> linuxguy2009 - disable ipv6...should speed up ur connection and set ur DNS to google's 8.8.8.8... came across that in a forum
[21:57] <odie5533> whats the difference between cli and custom install? Is the cli install on a minimal install cd different from on a server cd?
[21:57] <gothenburg> Hi, I've installed xubuntu and I've found out that there is a default pdf writer. What's the name of it?
[21:57] <penthief> Has there been a kernel update recently?
[21:57] <joshdreamland> duffydack: gparted /dev/loop0 shows that nothing in the file is allocated...
[21:58] <LinuxGuy2009> gspence___: Oh I didnt know about disabling IPv6 I did specify openDNS.com for server. Ill try disabling ipv6. Thanks for the tip!
[21:58] <duffydack> joshdreamland, well 4gig is the max filesize... but anyway, I had no problems using usb-creator when making persistence liveusbs... I dont know where its going wrong for you
[21:58] <joshdreamland> it may be because I asked it to allocate more than four gigabytes, then
[21:58] <LinuxGuy2009> gspence___: ipv6 in network manager is set to ignore. Thats basically off right?
[21:58] <joshdreamland> Is there a way to enable that?
[21:59] <gspence___> think so....
[21:59] <LinuxGuy2009> ok
[21:59] <gspence___> read somewhere as well about mucking about with msdns....2 secs see if i can get u a URL
[21:59] <heydemo> How can I soft link a directory to my home directory?  (e.g.  /usr/local/mydir  ->  /home/heydemo/mydir)  I keep getting 'too many levels of symbolic links' error
[21:59] <ugliefrog> i have a popup that says enter password for keyring "default" to unlock....i enter my user name pw and it says incorect....first of all what the hek is it and how do i make it accept the pw
[21:59] <duffydack> joshdreamland, use an ext fs
[21:59] <zamba> anyone been using openldap as a proxy for active directory? i have some problems with trying to get anonymous binds to work to the openldap proxy.. someone able to help me out some?
[21:59] <joshdreamland> duffydack: Can usb-creator work with that?
[22:00] <zamba> here's my slapd.conf: http://pastebin.com/tXJ5QNN8
[22:00] <duffydack> joshdreamland, try it, with a ext2..
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> heydemo: sudo ln -s /home/heydemo/mydir /usr/local/mydir    This will make the contents of /usr/local/mydir be a link to the data in your home folder
[22:00] <quaji> (repost) hi. I'm looking for a command line image viewer that allows showing an image at full screen, while stretching it to fit (not maintaining aspect ratio). Does anyone have an idea?
[22:00] <joshdreamland> duffydack: ext2? Not 3?
[22:01] <duffydack> joshdreamland,  I prefer no journal, less writes
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> heydemo: syntax: ln -s /path/to/thing /path/to/softlink
[22:01] <duffydack> joshdreamland, more usbstick life..
[22:01] <mikkelgj> Hi! I just installed the 10.04 beta2, and it correctly identified my nvidia video card. However, i get an error when trying to install the restricted drivers: http://pastebin.com/xe0Wp3pk
[22:01] <mikkelgj> Any ideas?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> heydemo: if the link is to be in the pwd and the same name you can just use: ln -s /path/to/folder
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | mikkelgj
[22:01] <joshdreamland> I'll take your word for it, duffy
[22:02] <mikkelgj> what the hell, i thought i WAS in ubuntu+1
[22:02] <mikkelgj> so sorry
[22:02] <Savan> i installed ubuntu9.10 in my pc....After loging into it  my ubuntu9.10 hardly it working for 30sec. ...then after it no keyboard,mouse is working...even alt+ctlr+f2 is also...screen is remaing as it is....can any one help me out
[22:02] <duffydack> joshdreamland, I`ll try it whie im waitin for my vm to install..
[22:02] <heydemo> ActionParsnip:  I get 'too many levels of symbolic links error'  even though /home/heydemo isn't a symbolic link
[22:02] <duffydack> joshdreamland, never actually used ext for it before, never needed more than a 4gig persis
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> heydemo: what is the output of: file /thing/you/are/linking
[22:02] <Losha> odie5533: I'm not certain, but I thought the minimal install CD aims to install just enough stuff that the rest can be installed via the network. A server install is a full install which omits the desktop and X11 software and adds various servers. You can start with a minimal install and turn it into the equivalent of a server install by adding the appropriate packages....
[22:03] <joshdreamland> well, I was just unsure if ext2 was stable enough
[22:03] <joshdreamland> I figured they'd have a reason to move to ext3
[22:03] <duffydack> joshdreamland, of course it is..
[22:03] <heydemo> actionparsnip: Notes: directory
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> joshdreamland: sure is, it doesnt have a journal to keep things nice but is advisable for flash based storage as the journal of ext4 and ext3 gets written quite a lot
[22:03] <mikkelgj> Savan, is it a laptop?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> heydemo: hmm
[22:04] <duffydack> joshdreamland, i`d run a tune2fs -m 0 /dev/whatever after formatting it also.. saves you 5% space.
[22:04] <Savan> mikk:no
[22:04] <padhu> I corrected it
[22:04] <padhu> Thanks
[22:04] <gothenburg> please?
[22:04] <joshdreamland> duffydack: thanks, will do
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> heydemo: ty: cd /path/for/link; ln -s /path/to/folder/to/link
[22:05] <blueVenom> has anyone had any luck with a cisco aironet 340 pcmcia card?
[22:05] <blueVenom> i have airo and airo_cs loaded but the card still doesn't want to work
[22:06] <gothenburg> Hi, I've installed xubuntu and I've found out that there is a default pdf writer. What's the name of it?
[22:06] <joshdreamland> duffydack: It won't take ext2; demands that I format it.
[22:06] <Savan> i installed ubuntu9.10 in my pc....After loging into it  my ubuntu9.10 hardly it working for 30sec. ...then after it no keyboard,mouse is working...even alt+ctlr+f2 is also...screen is remaing as it is....can any one help me out
[22:06] <duffydack> joshdreamland, yeh I see
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Savan: are you fully updated?
[22:07] <heydemo> ActionParsnip:  works! :D  Thanks for the help
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> gothenburg: its installed by default, you should have cups pdf installed but openoffice has a pdf writer built in
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> heydemo: np man
[22:07] <joshdreamland> duffydack: I'm going to try just allocating 4GB to the persistent file. I was reading how Casper is supposed to work with a partition called casper-rw, but it never worked for me.
[22:07] <gothenburg> ActionParsnip: I know
[22:07] <duffydack> joshdreamland, so 4gig pers file is all you get..  unless you just install it to it like it was a hard drive...
[22:07] <Savan> Action:I dont know that ..my friend gave me a live cd & I installed it ...
[22:07] <gothenburg> I just wondered what it was
[22:08] <joshdreamland> duffydack: The installer won't let me select it, or I would have.
[22:08] <gothenburg> so I can steal it to arch
[22:08] <gothenburg> Savan: Hal?
[22:08] <duffydack> joshdreamland, odd.. worked for me..  did you boot up with it plugged in ?
[22:08] <mikemonk> hello... i just created a bootable ubuntu usb from the wizard included in the live cd... however, i encountered the problem of not being able to boot this usb installation from my mac... do you know if theres a way to boot it in that system? :)
[22:08] <joshdreamland> duffydack: Yes. Should I have waited?
[22:09] <_pg_> mikemonk: what kind of mac?
[22:09] <duffydack> joshdreamland, only thing I had to make sure was where it installed the bootlader, it defaulted to sda (my hd) and not sdb (the flash
[22:09] <Savan> Is there any way to me....
[22:09] <mikemonk> _pg_: 15 inch macbook pro.... santa rosa one
[22:09] <joshdreamland> Won't even list sdg as an option for me.
[22:09] <duffydack> joshdreamland, I mean, did you bootup using the liveCD also with the usb stick plugged in ?  so install from cd to usb
[22:09] <_pg_> mikemonk: model identifier? mine is 4,1
[22:10] <duffydack> joshdreamland, cd and usb stick plugged in before power on
[22:10] <joshdreamland> I actually tried installing from one USB to another
[22:10] <duffydack> joshdreamland, well, or that... not tried that.. only got 1
[22:10] <duffydack> joshdreamland, should work still.
[22:10] <mikemonk> _pg_: 3,1
[22:10] <Typos_King> mikemonk:   does it even give you the option to boot from it? I mean, is there a boot sequence which seeks the usb firstly before any fixed drives?  or does it bypass it altogether?
[22:11] <Klevi> Hey guys. Flash content keeps jittering.. running flqash 10 and FF 3.6
[22:11] <joshdreamland> Either way, I'm going to see if it will work with 4GB, and from there, I'm going to see if I can't set up persistent file= to use a file from a second, ext2 partition
[22:11] <mikemonk> no no option Typos_King: i think it has something to do with macs having EFI and not BIOS
[22:11] <CaptainTrek> is it possible to set up Ubuntu servers as DNS servers?
[22:11] <_pg_> mikemonk: it is a known big- come people have had success using refit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/202039
[22:11] <ScottO_> ever have the bash prompt think you have the hostname of another computer?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> gothenburg: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=46459
[22:12] <ScottO_> and any ideahow to fix it?
[22:12] <duffydack> joshdreamland, I think I may have seen something ages ago about telling it the persistence file as boot parameter... if so, then you could.
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> ScottO_: check ni /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> s/ni/in
[22:13] <mikemonk> _pg_: thank you very much
[22:13] <_pg_> mikemonk: us mac users gotta stick together-there are few of us
[22:13] <joshdreamland> I see "persistent file=somelongpath" in my boot command
[22:13] <_pg_> mikemonk: on ubuntu anyway lol
[22:14] <mikemonk> _pg_: yeah i know :P thanks for the info
[22:14] <_pg_> mikemonk: no prob. safe travels
[22:14] <idlemind> _pg_ & mikemonk: i installed refi or something like that on my macbook pro in order for it to boot volumes after that's installed it will detect any boot-able usb volumes and you can select them on demand
[22:15] <blue112> Hello here.
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> !hi | blue112
[22:15] <duffydack> joshdreamland, could add a 2nd partition and do persistence file=/dev/sdb2/.....
[22:15] <blue112> I wonder why my sound is flickering. It's just like it's making some little "pauses"...
[22:16] <blue112> It happens when I listen to music, using Banshee.
[22:16] <chrisTKC> !info refit | idlemind (This?)
[22:16] <duffydack> joshdreamland, I dont know for sure never tried it.. If i had a big enough stick I`d install it for real.
[22:16] <joshdreamland> duffydack: How do I know it's sdb2?
[22:16] <duffydack> joshdreamland, thats an example.
[22:16] <lggregorio> Hey blue, I have same problem here, just changed alsa configs and it got working back
[22:16] <joshdreamland> duffydack: But I have no way of determining what it will be, it seems
[22:16] <blue112> lggregorio, I'm using pulseaudio, is that still an alsa problem ?
[22:17] <idlemind> christkc: yes thanks. couldn't think of it off the top of my head and i can't reboot my machine atm =)
[22:17] <Ahmed\>  How to select a default player for the media format files such as wma ? if i wanna switch the player to any other/
[22:17] <duffydack> joshdreamland, after you make it you`ll know.. gparted will tell you
[22:17] <ScottO_> ActionParsnip: the hostname getting reported by the promt is not in either of those files
[22:17] <duffydack> joshdreamland, its the 1 after whatever your first partition is..
[22:17] <lggregorio> blue112, it seems so, some systems are simply facing this, didn't research much though
[22:17] <lggregorio> give it a try
[22:18] <dm1612> hi all
[22:18] <Ahmed\> hi
[22:18] <mikemonk> idlemind: thanks
[22:18] <Kangarooo> something strange just happened. firefox crashed and wifi disconected
[22:18] <blue112> lggregorio, ok, can you pinpoint what is the config option to change ?
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> Ahmed\, assuming Gnome - open Nautilus right click on a wma file and select Properties - Open With tab and select (or add) the program you want to use
[22:18] <Ahmed\> Thank you so much i forget that option :)
[22:19] <joshdreamland> duffydack: but how do I know for sure what my first partition will be? Is the boot device always sdb?
[22:19] <Kangarooo> what log files I need to save to bugreport?
[22:19] <joshdreamland> On this computer, it's sdb... I know I've seen it as sda
[22:19] <penthief> rkhunter says my sudo was changed today! What should I do?
[22:19] <duffydack> joshdreamland, you have made partitions and used gparted already with it, you should know what device the usb stick is.
[22:19] <joshdreamland> on the computer I intend to install it on, it's SDG
[22:20] <joshdreamland> on this computer, it is sometimes SDG, sometimes SDH
[22:20] <orhan> who know format ubuntu ?
[22:20] <joshdreamland> when I boot from it, it's loop0
[22:20] <duffydack> joshdreamland, its a dynamic designation..
[22:20] <joshdreamland> exactly
[22:20] <joshdreamland> So how would I know which one to reference the file from?
[22:20] <duffydack> joshdreamland, yeah..  I dunno then .
[22:20] <orhan> any one help me
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> orhan: can you rephrase the question please
[22:20] <dm1612> Need some urgent help with PPTP VPN in network manager...doesnt work!!! i tried to install pptp-linux and pptpd and it still doesn't Add in network manager the option to configure vpn connection..please advice as able...=))))
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> orhan: can you also type in full sentances
[22:21] <orhan> i format my netbook but i cant
[22:21] <duffydack> joshdreamland, use UID?
[22:21] <duffydack> joshdreamland, UUID i mean
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> orhan: have you booted to the LiveCD environment?
[22:21] <orhan> cd?
[22:21] <orhan> on netbook
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> orhan: ok then USB
[22:21] <dm1612> HEY!!! HELP ME PLEASE ya ipal
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> !caps | dm1612
[22:22] <orhan> i took usb on my netbook but cant boot
[22:22] <chrisTKC> !help | dm1612 orhan
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> orhan: how did you make the usb stick?
[22:22] <orhan> winxp
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> orhan: ok, did you MD5 test the file you downloaded to make the usb stick with?
[22:23] <orhan> how to i did
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> orhan: can you rephrase please
[22:24] <joshdreamland> orhan: what language?
[22:24] <chrisTKC> !md5sum | orhan
[22:24] <Razion> Afternoon, all. Quick question?
[22:25] <kermit> how can i make this "applications places system" be just one button.. its taking a lot of screen space.
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> orhan: if you dont md5 test you have no way of knowing the data yuo used is correct or complete
[22:25] <joshdreamland> kermit: remove it from panel, and add the one button version
[22:25] <chrisTKC> kermit, Right-click on the panel and add applet.
[22:25] <tux_> Greeting's everyone
[22:25] <Razion> Anyone know how to save a file as root with Kate?
[22:26] <Razion> Hello, tux_.
[22:26] <camshron> gksu kate?
[22:26] <erUSUL> Razion: you have to launch kate with kdesu (i assume you are in kubuntu)
[22:26] <tux_> Hope all is well Razion
[22:26] <Razion> Is it. You too, tux_.
[22:27] <Razion> Eh. I actually use Backtrack.
[22:27] <Razion> It's a variant of...Debian, I believe. So no. :P
[22:27] <Typos_King> Razion:    run gksudo  to run Kate as root
[22:27] <Razion> Well. Ubuntu is as well.
[22:27] <erUSUL> !backtrack
[22:27] <chrisTKC> !gksudo | Razion
[22:27] <Razion> *Runs face into keyboard*
[22:27] <Razion> Ah! Thanks, chrisTKC.
[22:28] <Taz> hello everyone
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> Razion: kdesu kate   will run the app as root and the file created will be owned by root
[22:28] <dm1612> can anyone help with pptp???
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> Razion: backtrack isnt supported here
[22:28] <Taz> Can I ask for help here or is there a channel specifically suited to karmic users with macbooks or something of that sort?
[22:29] <dm1612> ...
[22:29] <erUSUL> Taz: ask here
[22:29] <chrisTKC> Taz, Ask away.
[22:29] <Typos_King> !ask | Taz
[22:29] <Razion> I'm aware. The solution applied just as well in my case, though.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> Razion: your distro still is not supported here, bt4 has its own channel
[22:29] <dm1612> can somebody help please???
[22:30] <Gnea> dm1612: not if we don't know what your problem is
[22:30] <Typos_King> dm1612:     me dunno pptp stuff, so :{
[22:30] <duffydack> joshdreamland, I might have a solution.. hmm let me test
[22:30] <_pg_> dm1612: what is pptp?
[22:31] <_pg_> dm1612: is that like p2p?
[22:31] <camshron> peertopeertunnelingprotocol?
[22:31] <dm1612> Gnea, the problem is that there is non-functional "add" button in network manager...(PPTP is for crating VPN connections)
[22:31] <dm1612> (creating*)
[22:32] <Razion> Is there an alternative to gksudo?
[22:32] <erUSUL> dm1612: the vpn plugins for NM come in its own packages did you installed those ?
[22:32] <Gnea> dm1612: I see. perhaps there are requirements that need to be fullfilled in order for that button to become functional.
[22:32] <joshdreamland> duffydack: No worries, I got it to recognize the USB
[22:32] <erUSUL> Razion: kdesu
[22:32] <scrts> maybe someone knows software like visio?
[22:32] <scrts> I mean microsoft visio
[22:32] <erUSUL> scrts: dia ?
[22:32] <duffydack> joshdreamland, involves making a casper-rw filesystem....
[22:32] <Razion> Ah. Thanks, erUSUL.
[22:32] <dm1612> Gnea, yes, correct...I installled pptp-linux, and pptpd, but
[22:32] <duffydack> joshdreamland, which means its ext
[22:32] <Gnea> dm1612: but for NM itself...
[22:32] <dm1612> ..on original website there is no .deb packages for pptp-config
[22:33] <Taz> Okay, thank you. I installed Karmic on my Macbook 5,1 recently and am now having a few issues related to Wine/gaming and my microphone. In short, my microphone originally seemed to work but after I applied an alsamixer patch to fix it, in the sound preferences there's now only a digital audio output, which seems to have disabled the microphone. Unrelated but still rather bothersome, none of my wine games-which so far basically include Osu! and 
[22:33] <Razion> (And to whoever suggested I use the BT4, channel...It doesn't allow me to send messages for whatever reason.))
[22:33] <erUSUL> !register | Razion
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Razion: install an official release and you will be supported here
[22:34] <Gnea> dm1612: is network-manager-pptp installed?
[22:34] <joshdreamland> yessir
[22:34] <dm1612> Gnea, plugin is installable but non-functional for creating VPN connection...when you install plugin, "add" button appears functional, but no window for editing/creating the very VPN connection follows afterwards...
[22:34] <dm1612> YES
[22:34] <joshdreamland> It'll hopefully install and work just fine...
[22:35] <Klevi> flash jitter fixed by upping the amt of memory it can allocate to my PC nvm
[22:35] <duffydack> joshdreamland, if you make a 2nd partition and format like mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -L casper-rw /dev/sdb2  it should see it and use it.
[22:36] <duffydack> joshdreamland, well dont forget, check where the bootloader is going to be installed..
[22:37] <Gnea> dm1612: not sure if this works for karmic or not: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-configure-pptp-vpn-in-ubuntu-intrepid-and-jaunty.html
[22:38] <vlar> good evening, i'm looking for a good software to switch IP adress automatically , what would you advise me?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> vlar: dhcp
[22:38] <Taz> ;w;
[22:39] <Gnea> dm1612: and you're not the only one to have issues: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1357445
[22:39] <Taz> Okay, thank you. I installed Karmic on my Macbook 5,1 recently and am now having a few issues related to Wine/gaming and my microphone. In short, my microphone originally seemed to work but after I applied an alsamixer patch to fix it, in the sound preferences there's now only a digital audio output, which seems to have disabled the microphone.
[22:40] <dm1612> Gena, ok i see...
[22:40] <alket> How to make  , when someone talks to me in empathy to open window not just  that green envelope that is hard to notice
[22:40] <vlar> ActionParsnip : tx but for external ones
[22:40] <scrts> erUSUL would be nice if it could rotate items
[22:40] <Taz> can anyone help with this? ;w;
[22:40] <dm1612> Gnea*, sorry, but it is manual...is there a simple way...to have it configured via nm?
[22:40] <Gnea> dm1612: I'm not sure what else to suggest, I haven't had to use it yet so I'm a bit in the dark
[22:40] <gmonnie> does anybody know how to rearrange items in the top panel?
[22:41] <Gnea> dm1612: that's what I was trying to find, and like I said, you're not the only one to have problems configuring it via NM
[22:41] <dm1612> Gnea, thanx a lot anyway...both 9.10 and 10.4 are great still...=)
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> vlar: you can use /etc/network/interfaces file, just make a few and switch them in and restart the network service
[22:41] <Gnea> odd_?
[22:41] <Gnea> dm1612: good luck
[22:41] <timClicks> i'm having trouble with the Indicate Applet Session 0.3 - I'm listed as offline, all of options to change that are greyed out
[22:42] <gmonnie> trying to rearrange items in my top panel on 9.10, anybody know how
[22:42] <orbisvicis> openoffice spreadsheet - can I make a nicely formatted table, like making a chart ?
[22:42] <Gnea> orbisvicis: you can.
[22:42] <orbisvicis> Gnea: how ?
[22:42] <vlar> ActionParsnip that should be interesting but what am i supposed to make in that file ?
[22:42] <timClicks> nm - I opened the empathy programme, it looks like I'm now listed as online
[22:42] <Gnea> orbisvicis: by asking in #openoffice.org
[22:43] <orbisvicis> Gnea: ah didnt the .org when I tried #openoffice, ty
[22:43] <Gnea> orbisvicis: cheers
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> vlar: there are giodes online on how to define addressing using the file, if you use the interfaces file then it will circumvent network manager but its a good way to switch static IPs easily
[22:44] <Taz> Okay, thank you. I installed Karmic on my Macbook 5,1 recently and am now having a few issues related to Wine/gaming and my microphone. In short, my microphone originally seemed to work but after I applied an alsamixer patch to fix it, in the sound preferences there's now only a digital audio output, which seems to have disabled the microphone. Is there any way to force ubuntu to recognize my microphone again?
[22:45] <Taz> Sorry to keep reposting this, if no one can help this time I'll leave but I really could use some help *c*
[22:45] <vlar> any one else for a more convenient way to switch IP adress all the time on Ubuntu? (my  purpose is to switch , do something, and repeat
[22:45] <uvacav> tor?
[22:45] <msim> did you try alsamixer in the console once?
[22:45] <chrisTKC> vlar, Give your machine a static IP?
[22:45] <Taz> yeah, and I lifted up the Microphone volume itself
[22:46] <Taz> but that didn't work
[22:46] <albert> hi, is there a way to install the via proprietary graphics driver over a repository?
[22:46] <Taz> I kept hearing about setting Capture to on but I have no idea how to do that, through the command line or otherwise
[22:46] <vlar> chrisTKC nope the opposite
[22:47] <vlar> chrisTKC I have a text file with plenty of proxy but i need for a software on ubuntu to automate all this
[22:47] <msim> @Taz did you try sudo alsaconf
[22:47] <msim> ?
[22:48] <chrisTKC> vlar, If you know how to do it manually, the chance is that you can make the script out of it.
[22:48] <tomatoes7> how do i burn an img file to an SD card?
[22:48] <Taz> I didn't
[22:48] <joshdreamland> duffydack: I'd already started installing. Is there a way to check where it's being installed?
[22:48] <Taz> I will try that now and see if it works, thanks
[22:49] <vlar> chrisTKC that is my purpose when i'll grow up : be able to do my self but the truth is that i can't right now :(
[22:49] <joshdreamland> or does it prompt you for that after install?
[22:49] <msim> @nik__ you can use dd if=/... of=/... but beware dd can destroy lots :-)
[22:49] <gmonnie> my top panel rearranged itself, and im trying to move the icons back where i want them, but dont know how. Im running 9.10. Can anyone help me?
[22:49] <Taz> the alsaconf command isn't recognized by the terminal O:
[22:49] <chrisTKC> !abs | vlar
[22:49] <msim> sudo... :-)
[22:49] <erUSUL> gmonnie: right click on them. should be an option to moe them
[22:49] <duffydack> joshdreamland, its an option..
[22:50] <joshdreamland> duffydack: when am I prompted for it?
[22:50] <duffydack> joshdreamland, after you setup user/pass,
[22:50] <vlar> chrisTKC yeah why don't i start now :) tx i'm going to study if i can /can't do that , tx again
[22:50] <gmonnie> on some, but not the ones that were moved
[22:50] <msim> Have also a question - anyone there with bonding knowhow? - I have 802.3ad but still 1 Link wire speed.
[22:50] <Taz> msim: absolutely nothing, even with sudo O:
[22:50] <duffydack> joshdreamland, I forget tbh.. its a screen where you can click advanced, and set it
[22:50] <chrisTKC> vlar, You don't have to go through all that (since I will guess you're lazy or unmotivated).  However, if you actually go through all of that, it can benefit you in many unimaginative lengths and ways. :)
[22:51] <regeya> £¢∞¢£™£
[22:51] <regeya> what the...
[22:52] <gmonnie> are there any other ways
[22:52] <msim> taz, try asoundconf
[22:52] <msim> (http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/asoundconf)
[22:52] <motd> http://pastebin.com/VLUADePA
[22:52] <vlar> chrisTKC but it is started badly shell programming not my stuff yet but want i need shouldn't be a struggle
[22:52] <motd> how do i fix it
[22:53] <joshdreamland> duffydack: well, crap, I already passed one of those, and I -don't- want to go through setup again...
[22:53] <Taz> thank you, msim, i'll try this now, though I don't suppose theres an english version of this? ;w;
[22:53] <vlar> chrisTKC i'm trying in english now :) I'm not good in shell but what i want is not too difficult
[22:53] <joshdreamland> I think I'll just hope they've fixed that...
[22:53] <msim> try google translate ;-)
[22:54] <vlar> lol
[22:54] <dawning> I need tips/help deciding how to limit the max size of a directory. Quotas could work. I'm just not sure if there's a simpler solution?? Any help?
[22:55] <erUSUL> dawning: make that dir be in a partition of the size you want
[22:55] <Taz> msim: it would seem asoundconf has been removed from Karmic
[22:55] <cbrinke1> Hello, I am seeing 2 motd's when I login via ssh, what causes this?
[22:56] <h00k> cbrinke1: are you on Lucid?
[22:56] <motd> huh?
[22:56] <cbrinke1> Karmic
[22:56] <dawning> erUSUL: That doesn't really fit with my use case. I have one giant (several TB) partition that I want a few years to share
[22:56] <micael> i have a vpn how do i get it to work in ubuntu
[22:56] <erUSUL> !vpn
[22:57] <msim> yea, true asoundconf is missing...
[22:57] <dawning> erUSUL: I know I can make partitions in files, but I'd really prefer not to go that route
[22:57] <micael> !vpn
[22:57] <erUSUL> dawning: quotas; it is then
[22:57] <cbrinke1> Or better still: How best to debug the login process wrt motd's
[22:58] <dawning> erUSUL: Okay, thanks. Just making sure there isn't some obvious simple other solution
[22:58] <git__> anyone have trouble with their ubuntu 9.10 with the following error message once in a while:  hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2
[22:59] <git__> it renders my usb mouse usable
[23:00] <Xodiac> i need help on getting my Integrated Intel GMA 4500MHD to work i just need to know how to install the drivers
[23:00] <erUSUL> Xodiac: driver for intel chips come installed by default
[23:00] <mikkelgj> Anyone know of a good alternative to filezilla for (S)FTP transfers?
[23:00] <mewshi> Hey
[23:00] <mewshi> I need help getting wireless to work on lucid
[23:00] <mewshi> whoops
[23:00] <Typos_King> !sftp
[23:00] <mewshi> sorry
[23:00] <mewshi> wrong channel
[23:00] <FloodBot4> mewshi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <mikkelgj> Typos_King, thanks, but i dont want to use scp in cli. Too many files, too inefficient
[23:01] <erUSUL> Xodiac: you may want to try the xorg updates ppa with newer drivers if you have problems with the default ones
[23:01] <mikkelgj> !scp
[23:01] <Typos_King> !ftp
[23:01] <gmonnie> anyone know the command to revert panels to default
[23:01] <erUSUL> !resetpanels
[23:01] <Xodiac> erUSUL: how do i do that and i didnt try installing the hardware devices ones yet because i did and didnt get good results
[23:02] <duffydack> well if this works, you might not need to install fully..
[23:02] <erUSUL> !ppa | Xodiac
[23:02] <Typos_King> Xodiac:     what do you mean?   I have an intel gma card, the drivers loaded as default and works fine :|
[23:02] <duffydack> brb
[23:03] <erUSUL> Xodiac: is this ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[23:03] <Xodiac> Typos_King did you install the drivers from hardware devices
[23:03] <gmonnie> ubotto: i tried that, said no process found
[23:03] <Xodiac> i mean drivers
[23:03] <Typos_King> Xodiac:     nope, right out of the cd installation
[23:03] <Xodiac> Typos_King how do i know it works i forgot the command to make sure i have three d
[23:04] <Typos_King> Xodiac:     how would you know it works?   well hehee, if you get video :) I 'd guess... you can always check in the system with -> lshw -C video;
[23:04] <erUSUL> Xodiac: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[23:05] <gmonnie> thanks big help
[23:05] <mun27> How to check if the server is listening on udp port 5060
[23:05] <erUSUL> mun27: sudo lsof -i :5060
[23:07] <Xodiac> erUSUL: uh thanks i hope i get a good frame rate i have another question i have an external harddrive and i want to change it from ext to ntfs is there someway i can do it without deleting a lot of files i have
[23:07] <Ahmed\> How can i DISABLE the Default bootscreen Which opens up KDE when i have selected Gnome as default i wanna see the PC to boot up like it was before installing KDE ? how
[23:07] <dugger5688> Xodiac: copy them to DVDs or another HD before you do it.
[23:08] <erUSUL> Xodiac: ext3 to ntfs : no there is no way that i know of
[23:08] <Typos_King> Xodiac:  you want to run *nix on ntfs?
[23:08] <Xodiac> erUSUL crap cause i have like three hundred gigs of files
[23:08] <Xodiac> Typos_King oh no
[23:09] <Xodiac> Typos_King I just have my files on it
[23:09] <erUSUL> Xodiac: if it is ext3 you can install extfs in windows ?
[23:09] <erUSUL> !extfs
[23:09] <erUSUL> !search ext3
[23:09] <dugger5688> Just leave it ext*, it's better anyway.
[23:09] <Typos_King> Xodiac:     you want to change, a partition which is only for storage with files, changed from ext3 to ntfs, that way win32 can access it?
[23:09] <erUSUL> !ext3
[23:09] <Xodiac> erUSUL: uh thanks
[23:09] <erUSUL> Xodiac: http://www.fs-driver.org
[23:09] <Xodiac> Typos_King lol nm
[23:10] <Typos_King> heheh
[23:10] <MK13> how could i go about connecting to a remote X server and show like the login screen from my server on one tty then have my local one showing on the tty7?
[23:10] <Xodiac> erUSUL i tried that program and i cant see my external hd
[23:11] <dugger5688> Xodiac: ext3 or ext4?
[23:11] <erUSUL> Xodiac: :( then i dunno.
[23:11] <Xodiac> ext3
[23:11] <resno> looking for a bit of help getting printer setup to work with ubuntu. its a canon pixma mp-620b
[23:12] <Hariharakadan> What's the problem resno?
[23:12] <BluesKaj> Xodiac, what are you planning to do on the external drive ?
[23:12] <Xodiac> BluesKaj for storage thats all
[23:12] <Taz> Argh, damn you sound preferences
[23:13] <dugger5688> Xodiac: http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3
[23:13] <shani_> ruben?
[23:13] <dugger5688> I kind of curious now to try this out, but I only have Windows on VM.
[23:13] <BluesKaj> Xodiac, you formatted the drive to ext3 and it won't mount ?
[23:14] <Taz> excuse me but how do I set my internal audio to also provide an input analog audio capability?
[23:15] <Taz> For some reason it has decided to only have an output despite my having an internal microphone
[23:16] <dugger5688> Taz: Right click on the volume meter, select 'Sound Preferences'
[23:16] <Taz> yes
[23:16] <dugger5688> Taz: then make sure under hardware, you have a profile including the input.
[23:16] <angelblade> Hi a have a question about grub 2 (im using Lucid beta) , how protect my grub with password, its like grub-legacy?
[23:17] <erUSUL> !grub2 | angelblade
[23:17] <Taz> yes, under hardware there's ONLY one profile, and it's output only
[23:17] <angelblade> ireda wiki ... dont solve my problem
[23:17] <erUSUL> angelblade: also lucid support is in #ubuntu+1
[23:17] <albert> hi, i get failed to load module "via" even though xserver-xorg-video-via is installed. anybody know why that is?
[23:17] <haavaros> How do I find the window ID of e.g firefox?
[23:17] <dugger5688> Taz: Sound card? and what do they read?
[23:18] <erUSUL> angelblade: go to section 9 links --> Grub2 (comunity docs)
[23:18] <angelblade> erUSUL, this wiki dont contains about password
[23:18] <angelblade> ok
[23:18] <Typos_King> haavaros:    pidof of firefox;
[23:18] <Typos_King> wooops
[23:18] <squisher> Hi, anyone here knows how long after a dput the ppa homepage should list the upload?
[23:18] <Taz> All I really know about my sound card is that it's Nvidia based, but the sound preferenced read Internal Audio 1 Output Analog Stereo Output
[23:18] <Typos_King> haavaros:    pidof firefox; or pidof APPNAME;  if you dunno the app name, you can use autocomplete, APP<tab>
[23:19] <haavaros> Typos_King: thx
[23:19] <Taz> It bears mentioning that this only happened after I applied an alsamixer patch to fix my speakers/headpones
[23:19] <dugger5688> And does it have an 'in' jack?
[23:19] <jack__> dugger5688: what?
[23:20] <Taz> The computer itself?
[23:20] <dugger5688> yes
[23:20] <Taz> It has an internal microphone
[23:21] <GodfatherofEire> Does anybody have the list of command line options for firefox?
[23:21] <angelblade> erUSUL, i want protect my grub, documentation is incomplete
[23:21] <Typos_King> Taz:  you ain't got jack? ohhh man
[23:21]  * Typos_King ducks
[23:21] <dugger5688> Taz: issue 'alsamixer' in a terminal
[23:22] <dugger5688> Then tell me what the Card, and Chip are.
[23:22] <jack__> damnit Typos_King
[23:22] <angelblade> erUSUL , i want protect my grub, documentation is incomplete
[23:22] <Taz> HDA Nvidia, card. Realtek ALC889A, chip
[23:22] <chrisTKC> angelblade, Ask in #grub
[23:22] <erUSUL> angelblade: yes just checked i thought there was something about passwords there
[23:23] <erUSUL> angelblade: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1369019
[23:23] <Typos_King> GodfatherofEire:   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Command_line_arguments
[23:24] <GodfatherofEire> Typos_King, checked that, didnt list a couple. Namely, starting it in Private and disabling add-ons
[23:24] <angelblade> erUSUL, thanks for the help ...
[23:24] <equivoc> hi, is there a way to fix a "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" without reinstall?
[23:24] <haavaros> Typos_King: Seems like pid gives process ID, i need window ID
[23:25] <An_Ony_Moose> uuuhm... I'm running ubuntu on my netbook which has no CD drive, but /dev/cdrom0 is created. any ideas why?
[23:26] <An_Ony_Moose> err, wait. I mean it shows cdrom0 in nautilus, but no block device exists (obviously)
[23:26] <chrisTKC> An_Ony_Moose, Symbolic Links?
[23:27] <An_Ony_Moose> chrisTKC, no...
[23:27] <noqturnal> Hello hello!
[23:27] <An_Ony_Moose> It looks like nautilus assumes that there is always a cd drive... Should I report it as a bug?
[23:28] <noqturnal> I am having an issue with a fresh Unetbootin install of 9.04
[23:28] <noqturnal> possibly something simple, anyone care to assist in priv
[23:29] <kitche> An_Pny_Moose why would that be a bug. that gets created no matter what it just does not link to anything
[23:29] <ascott_dt> noqturnal: what's the problem? why not go to 9.10?
[23:29] <noqturnal> when i created it that was the option i chose, it just didnt turn out that way
[23:30] <noqturnal> after setting up the partitions and installing the base system files, choosing ubuntu desktop ( first attempt was xubuntu desktop; failed too), it only boots to a command line not the deskop gui
[23:30] <noqturnal> and i simply am not skilled enough to know what to do with this
[23:30] <chrisTKC> !away > radar3d|Bedtime
[23:31] <kajros> I just recently installed Ubuntu and i am having issues with my sound and video.  My sound refuses to work through my speakers on my laptop or through my headset and videos when played are going twice as fast as they should
[23:31] <noqturnal> ascott_dt - - any ideas?
[23:31] <Typos_King> haavaros:   any specific reason?   I mean, you can always install 'qps' which is a visual manager and I think that may give it :)
[23:31] <ascott_dt> noqturnal: sounds like the install did not detect video card to set up X windows, automatically. You might still be able to get it to work, but I'd bet 9.10 would work out of the box.
[23:32] <haavaros> Typos_King: Actually, I had a second look at google results, and it turns out xwininfo is what I was loooking for
[23:32] <haavaros> it's for recording a window
[23:32] <ascott_dt> noqturnal: what happens when you type "startx", when logging in at command line?
[23:32] <AmunRa> Hello! I've installed the 10.4 beta2 on my old mactel... just one question: how the hell do I move the window buttons to the right????
[23:32] <chrisTKC> noqturnal, 9.04 is outdated. :3  -- Try 9.10 (or better yet, if it's not your main system, wait until Lucid come out in 8 days)
[23:33] <Typos_King> haavaros:   with 'recordmydesktop'?
[23:33] <MK13> how can i connect to a remote X server to display the whole screen & login on my desktop?
[23:33] <haavaros> Typos_King: Yep
[23:33] <Typos_King> I see
[23:34] <iflema> AmunRa #ubuntu+1 for lucid talk/support
[23:34] <AmunRa> ahh good :-D
[23:34] <AmunRa> Thanks
[23:36] <TrYaD> g'evening everyone...
[23:37] <jameswood> hey i need help with Xwnc
[23:38] <iflema> TrYaD g'morning...
[23:38] <jameswood> hey can someone help me
[23:38] <minina> hi , What is a microkernel
[23:39] <jameswood> helllooo
[23:39] <jameswood> helo
[23:39] <Ahren_The_Magus> In Hardy Heron LTS, how do I turn off auto-run (i.e. the attempted starting of software when a CD is inserted into the drive and the disc is mounted.  I do -not- want automount disabled, just autorun.
[23:39] <Ahren_The_Magus> jameswood: Hello
[23:39] <jameswood> i need some help with something!!
[23:39] <genii> jameswood: Yes, your Xwnc .
[23:39] <maco> Ahren_The_Magus: for audio cds? should be able to set that in system -> preferences -> preferred applications, i think
[23:40] <Ahren_The_Magus> jameswood: If I can help, I will, but as you can read, I also have a question that I could use an answer for, if possible.
[23:40] <jameswood> yes that!
[23:40] <Ahren_The_Magus> maco: For data CDs, like application install media.
[23:40] <jameswood> i need help with Xwnc
[23:40] <maco> Ahren_The_Magus: i dont know. i didnt think they even *did* autorun on linux
[23:40] <genii> jameswood: When you get no response to a question it's usually because there is currently no one around who knows the answer. Best to be patient, re-asking at a reasonable time period, or also check the forums
[23:40] <jameswood> ohhh okay.
[23:40] <jameswood> lol thanks
[23:41] <Typos_King> Ahren_The_Magus:    are you in kubuntu?
[23:41] <Ahren_The_Magus> maco: I'm using VirtualBox to load Windows XP virtually, and when I pop in a CD, Hardy -and- Windows both try to autorun from the disc.  Windows I know how to disable, but not Hardy.  And no, not kubuntu, ubuntu.
[23:42] <Typos_King> Ahren_The_Magus:    ... can't say... I'd think you can check also in the gnome's registry editor, gconf
[23:42] <Typos_King> Ahren_The_Magus:    quite sure it'd have a GUI access though too
[23:42] <maco> Ahren_The_Magus: the only thing i can think of is maybe if you open a file browser and go to its preferences... there are settings in there for what actions to take on various types of media
[23:43] <Typos_King> I know how to in kubuntu though :P
[23:43] <Losha> Ahren_The_Magus: this page mentions an option to disable autorun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/autorun. Dunno if it actually works though...
[23:43] <maco> Typos_King: oh? how? i dont think ive come across that setting in kde yet
[23:43] <Ahren_The_Magus> Typos_King: bash: gconf: command not found
[23:43] <iflema> Ahren_The_Magus System \ Preferences \ Removable Drives and Media
[23:43] <Typos_King> Ahren_The_Magus:    check Losha's link :)
[23:43] <maco> Ahren_The_Magus: gconf isnt a command its a configuration system  (like the registry in windows). gconf-editor is the command you'd use to edit stuff in it.
[23:43] <Ahren_The_Magus> Losha: I'll see what I can see there.
[23:44] <admin_servidor> join #ubuntu-es
[23:44] <Ahren_The_Magus> iflema: That doesn't do anything, I tried that already.
[23:44] <ChrisC_> Hi the channel.
[23:44] <ChrisC_> HELP I'm in some serious shit.
[23:44] <Losha> Ahren_The_Magus: note the link refers to an obsolete version, but you'd think there'd be an equivalent in whatever succeeded it...
[23:44] <mickster04> !ohmy
[23:44] <ChrisC_> I'm running from 9.10 live cd.
[23:44] <Typos_King> maco:     in kde4 is System Settings > Advanced > Device Actions
[23:45] <Ahren_The_Magus> Losha: And it seems to be Wine-related.  I don't have Wine installed on this box.  I use vbox for Windows executables, instead.
[23:45] <ChrisC_> I did an upgrade to 10.04 from 9.10 amd64 version. Now GDM will not start.
[23:45] <Ahren_The_Magus> Losha: But thanks for the link regardless.
[23:46] <ChrisC_> Can anyone help, I'm desperate.
[23:46] <mickster04> !ubuntu+1
[23:46] <ChrisC_> OK
[23:46] <Losha> Ahren_The_Magus: nothing under System->Preferences->Removable media ?
[23:46] <Ahren_The_Magus> maco: Nice command, a bit arcane, but I'm still learning how to use Ubuntu.  *giving it a look-see now*
[23:47] <Ahren_The_Magus> Losha: All that's there is tabs for cameras, pdas, printers/scanners, and input devices.  Nothing about my optical drive.
[23:47] <vlar> re hi i've tried to turn into shell programming but it is damn too difficult for me : is there any paquet wich can handle proxy server list ?
[23:47] <ttk1opc> Ahren have you looked under preferences > media in nautilus and select do nothing with CD's?
[23:48] <Ahren_The_Magus> maco: Any idea where in gconf I'd find info on autorun, so I can disable it?
[23:48] <Ahren_The_Magus> ttk1opc: I'll look while I wait for a reply from maco.
[23:48] <Neibaf> hello there
[23:49] <nsadmin> vlar: separate the two
[23:49] <kuntay> cool
[23:49] <Ahren_The_Magus> ttk1opc: I think that might have worked!  Testing now.
[23:49] <kuntay> i like this
[23:49] <vlar> nsadmin what do u mean ?
[23:50] <Ahren_The_Magus> ttk1opc: Disc mounted, no autorun prompt.  Thank you very much!
[23:50] <kuntay> hey wazzz uup?
[23:50] <ttk1opc> No problem
[23:50] <nsadmin> vlar: you're handling two very different things at the same time... separate them
[23:51] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello guys. is there any gui frontend for squid?
[23:51] <vlar> so to sum up i need one tiny thing : a name of a paquet wich can handle proxy server list to switch IP automatically
[23:51] <usser> !squid
[23:51] <Neibaf> is it possible on ubuntu to redirect line in on stereo out like windows mixer ?
[23:51] <kuntay> how mant days left for ubuntu 10.04
[23:51] <kuntay> ??
[23:51] <kuntay> many*
[23:51] <Neibaf> 8
[23:52] <resno> why is it so hard to get a printer to work?
[23:52] <vlar> usser i need several proxy i thing squid is not providing that , is it?
[23:52] <kuntay> cooool but i have questions if i update the system , everything will be deleted?
[23:52] <nsadmin> most printers are union members...
[23:52] <usser> vlar: several proxy?
[23:52] <resno> i should have looked for a linux friendly one before buying one, cause its a pain and no guides ever get it to work :-/
[23:53] <tenochslb> I think an update for lucid lynx broke my network manager
[23:53] <aadster> ns identify santa572june
[23:53] <dm1612> can someone advise what is better to use JFS or EXT4???
[23:53] <vlar> usser : i need to have tons of ip different : new Ip ---> action and new IP again ----> repeat and so on . I've a text file with proxy adresses
[23:53] <aadster> ns identify santa572june toughfordtrucker@gmail.com
[23:53] <nsadmin> vlar: the two problem domains you're exploring are... (1) shell scripting, which has its moments of difficulty... and this proxy thing you're trying to get to do some custom thing
[23:53] <kuntay> hey dude ubuntu has everything it has its own forum and all problems are solved one by one
[23:53] <chrisTKC> resno, I have two different printers. They both works well. Just plug it in and they recognize the drivers. (For me).
[23:54] <aadster> ns identify santa572june toughfordtrucker@gmail.com register
[23:54] <aadster> hm
[23:54] <resno> chrisTKC: the catch is this is a wifi printer
[23:54] <KB1JWQ> aadster: I'd change your nickserv paster.
[23:54] <KB1JWQ> password*
[23:54] <aadster> why?
[23:54] <aadster> you guys cant see that rigt
[23:54] <KB1JWQ> aadster: Fraid so.
[23:54] <aadster> fk thats my pass i sue for everything
[23:54] <tenochslb> any of you guys know if there is an irc channer for network manger issues?
[23:54] <chrisTKC> aadster, You like tough ford truckers? Huh...
[23:55] <nsadmin> you sue for everything?!
[23:55] <aadster> wat
[23:55] <Jason1> Does anyone need help with something?
[23:55] <aadster> hwo u know this
[23:55] <vlar> nsadmin we gave me the advice to turn into shell scripting but it is awefull for a noob, so i'm trying to get a paquet already made , i'm sure someone in this world thought about that
[23:55] <chrisTKC> aadster, You spammed it in this channel not a minute ago.
[23:55] <coachj> does anyone use ubuntu tweak?
[23:55] <iflema> tenochslb #ubuntu+1 for lucid talk/support
[23:55]  * Typos_King wonders what a paquet is x|
[23:55] <dm1612> what is better for performance JFS or EXT4?
[23:56] <Jason1> Any Ubuntu problems you need help with?
[23:56] <tenochslb> iflema: tanks
[23:56] <tenochslb> thanks
[23:56] <Jason1> EXT4 is better for performance.
[23:56] <nsadmin> vlar: yes, they're both fairly challenging, so that's why you should separate the two
[23:56] <mikkelgj> Handles crashes better too afaik Jason1
[23:56] <dm1612> Jason1, can you help with PPTP? can make VPN work...neither way...
[23:56] <coachj> Jason1: what can u tell me bout Ubuntu Tweak
[23:57] <nsadmin> resno do you have a wifi net?
[23:58] <Jason1> Ubuntu Tweak is an application to config Ubuntu easier for everyone.It provides many useful desktop and system options that the default desktop environment doesn't provide.With its help, you will enjoy with the experience of Ubuntu!
[23:58] <resno> nsadmin: wifi net?
[23:58] <ttk1opc> Wireless router?
[23:58] <Jason1> coachj: Ubuntu Tweak is an application to config Ubuntu easier for everyone.It provides many useful desktop and system options that the default desktop environment doesn't provide.With its help, you will enjoy with the experience of Ubuntu!
[23:59] <nsadmin> you have a wifi printer (which you're having problems with)... do you have a wireless network?
[23:59] <Neibaf> found it pactl load-module module-loopback