| rbelem | Riddell, nice! i already have the kde src cloned. now i just need look the gnome code ;-) | 00:01 |
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| rbelem | thanks a lot Riddell | 00:02 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Thanks | 00:03 |
| rbelem | this task is way exciting then the printer :-) | 00:03 |
| claydoh | Riddell: will hardy upgrades be supported for lucid? | 00:39 |
| Riddell | claydoh: not for Kubuntu no | 00:43 |
| claydoh | Riddell: thanks, I thought not. Should this be mentioned either on the release notes and/or the upgrades page? | 00:45 |
| Riddell | claydoh: yes it should | 00:49 |
| claydoh | Riddell: will do | 00:50 |
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| jjesse | is there an RC available for testing? sry been out of the loop a bit | 01:38 |
| persia | jjesse: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | 01:42 |
| persia | still some tests available for i386 and one for amd64 | 01:43 |
| Riddell | duplicate tests also welcome, especially where the only tester is me (not good practice if I'm the guy both testing and signing off) | 01:44 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: Would you please accept kopete-cryptography. I needs a rebuild to be installable. | 02:03 |
| Riddell | ScottK: why the change in maintainer? | 02:16 |
| Riddell | archive reorg I guess | 02:16 |
| Riddell | accepting | 02:16 |
| ScottK | Yeah, it was MOTU before and that's supposed to be changed. | 02:16 |
| ScottK | Thanks | 02:16 |
| jjesse | is beta2 the latest/greatest or is there a release candidate | 02:29 |
| jjesse | for doing screenshots/etc off of | 02:30 |
| ScottK | jjesse: Release Candidate | 02:54 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: avogadro built (great job on that), but it's still not installable. It depends on a non-existing python2.6-sip4. | 02:54 |
| ScottK | I think if it did dh_sip it would depend on python2.6-sip and sip-api-7.0 | 02:55 |
| jjesse | ScottK where do i find this release candidate? | 03:07 |
| ScottK | cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/lucid/current (or something like that) | 03:08 |
| jjesse | ah was looking at releases | 03:08 |
| ScottK | It'll be there after the RC is out | 03:12 |
| ScottK | Now it's what we're testing. | 03:12 |
| ScottK | The chances of a change that will afect screen shots are nil, however. | 03:12 |
| jjesse | awesome hotel internet, 4.6kb/sec | 03:12 |
| ScottK | Nice. | 04:01 |
| ScottK | debfx: Do you know which KDE component this affects? | 05:04 |
| ScottK | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/539477 | 05:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 539477 in gnome-settings-daemon "Video out hot key sends super + p + return on many upcoming Dell & HP systems" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 05:05 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: libinfinity, libqinfiinity, kobby, and gobby-infinote | 05:07 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: turns out there were intentional dependencies on python{pyver}-qt4 and python{pyver}-sip4 | 06:05 |
| JontheEchidna | I've removed those and put in dh_sip for good measure | 06:05 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 06:05 |
| * ScottK looks in the queue | 06:06 | |
| JontheEchidna | uploading right now, so it should be in queue in a bit | 06:06 |
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| * ScottK will look in the morning then. | 06:06 | |
| * ScottK was just about to crash. | 06:06 | |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, I'm going to bed too | 06:06 |
| debfx | ScottK: does kde even react to XF86XK_Display? | 08:07 |
| debfx | ScottK: I don't think it does, at least not by default | 08:18 |
| Tm_T | where's dantti when you need him... | 10:05 |
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| sabdfl | could it be a colliding PPA's problem? | 10:26 |
| sabdfl | erk | 10:26 |
| Tm_T | ...was about to blame martians, not PPA | 10:42 |
| valorie | martinis, or martians? | 10:51 |
| Nightrose | both are good for blaming things on no? ;-) | 11:00 |
| ScottK | debfx: OK. Thanks. I didn't know. | 12:00 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: what PPC images needs now testing? | 12:01 |
| Tm_T | ...I'll try to burn now and test later today | 12:01 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: What's the answer on this (frim #ubuntu-devel): | 12:01 |
| ScottK | [05:15:54] <pitti> Riddell, ScottK: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt> should knm-runtime stop recommending the vpnc bits? | 12:01 |
| ScottK | [05:27:47] <pitti> same question about kigo recommending gnugo | 12:01 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: also we have the problem where network manager disables interfaces but knetworkmanager doesn't have a way to re-enable them | 12:28 |
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| Tonio_ | ScottK: I fixed that, looks like the package didn't go in.... | 13:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no way to fix in the second case..... | 13:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: missing feature or bug I'd say... | 13:37 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: looks at 04/15 changelog... | 13:38 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: - knm-runtime does not recommend any package (it's the backend...) | 13:38 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: imho, the components should be suggested by the corresponding kde components... | 13:39 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: so both network-manager-kde and plasma-widget-networkmanager both suggest them | 13:40 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: Would you and Riddell please agree on this. | 13:40 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: sure | 13:40 |
| * ScottK is a bit tied up. | 13:40 | |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: do we want the vpn plugins installed for everyone ? that's what happened then... | 13:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kep in mind that I splitted the vpn components frmo the knm-runtime for that purpose | 13:41 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no they are in universe | 13:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: so that we can install them separetelly | 13:41 |
| Tonio_ | network-manager-openvpn-kde for example | 13:41 |
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| Tonio_ | for the same reason there is network-manager-openvpn-gnome | 13:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: doesn't this make sense to you ? | 13:42 |
| Riddell | doesn't what make sense? | 13:42 |
| Tonio_ | not installing all the plugins by default | 13:43 |
| Riddell | well they're in universe so it's not an option | 13:43 |
| Tonio_ | right, right, sorry I missed that point | 13:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what is the point having knm-runtime recommending those packages then ? | 13:44 |
| Tonio_ | instead of the frontend you choose suggesting them ? | 13:44 |
| Riddell | I don't understand why http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt claims that knm-runtime recommends network-manager-vpnc, it doesn't | 13:44 |
| Tonio_ | yeah, it doesn't | 13:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it did beofre I handled the package | 13:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it recommended this for a long time | 13:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I then switched to recommending the kde part instead (network-manager-openvpn-kde, which depends on the plugin itself) | 13:45 |
| sithlord48 | i solved the ati driver issue durring upgrade | 13:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and finally dropped that on 04:14, upload ubuntu4, so now both frontends suggest the plugins | 13:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I don't get why they claim this either.... | 13:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is the file supposed to be up to date with the archives ? | 13:49 |
| Riddell | it should be "Generated: Thu Apr 22 13:36:31 BST 2010 | 13:49 |
| Riddell | but maybe it's stuck on one architecture? | 13:49 |
| Riddell | sparc! | 13:50 |
| Riddell | it didn't compile on smelly old sparcd | 13:50 |
| Tonio_ | oh ! well done :) | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: got a sec? | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | kinda | 15:00 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i installed 9.10 on a pc and then upgraded to 10.04 beta 2 using the alternate cd,now kpk doesnt install packages,i click on the download and click apply and it just returns to the usual state | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | doesnt download packages.... | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | ohm | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what does pkcon install do? | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | if you hand it the package as argument ...;) | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: havent tried that... i just wanted to ask what might be the isseu | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | polkit maybe | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | not necessarily though | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i did do kpk --install-package kubuntu-restricted-extras | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | it says no such package found \o/ | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | !info kubuntu-restricted-extras | 15:03 |
| ubottu | kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 36 (karmic), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | !info kubuntu-restricted-extras lucid | 15:03 |
| ubottu | kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 39 (lucid), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: same thing for vlc as well :( | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | apart from that everything worked perfectly :) | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | connected to wep networks,etc,etc | 15:04 |
| genii | Too bad the bot doesn't take a third argument for !info like 32 or 64 etc | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | genii: :P | 15:04 |
| genii | (Well 4th actually since it takes dist/repo ) | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | why would one want to specify 32 or 64? | 15:06 |
| genii | apachelogger: Well, architecture generally | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: oh one small thing too,i exported http_proxy and ftp_proxy in bashrc and tried apt-get update,no luck there either | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: well, I'd try with pkcon | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | see what that says | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: whats the exact command? | 15:06 |
| genii | apachelogger: Because often packages are available for instance on 32bit but not 64bit | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | pkcon install kubuntu-restricted-extras | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you need to export the http shiz in /etc/environment | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | I am not even sure if that works for apt though | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: it does work here... | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | either way it might be best to configure apt for proxy | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: via /etc/apt/apt.conf ? | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | google is your friend I guess | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: theres alot of confusion on that :) | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | each forum suggests something :P | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | well | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | askjeeves :P | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :D | 15:09 |
| * shadeslayer is being wooed over by gnome | 15:09 | |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: I think I looked at the kubuntu.org drupal theme the wrong way :( | 16:26 |
| Riddell | konqueror was crashing and now it's not but I can't open any of the sections (like the one to set the URL or the one to stop it publishing the RC story before it's ment to be) | 16:28 |
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| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu <3 Channel | Test ISO images! (see kubuntu-devel ML for special details) | 10.04 LTS RC released!, Finally frozen | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | milestoned bugs marked as kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 Only 3 left to fix! | ||
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| ofirk | Riddell: is there anything new about the new theme? | 17:36 |
| Riddell | ofirk: how do you mean? | 17:36 |
| ofirk | Riddell: yesterday we talked about the theme, and we said that the new theme will run in the mean time on Drupal 5 | 17:37 |
| ofirk | Riddell: but we wanted a staging site | 17:37 |
| ofirk | Riddell: the team from canonical isn't available, and we need to have the staging site so we can organize everything for the release day | 17:39 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: The amd64 buildd is about caught up, so nowish wouldn't be a bad time if you wanted to try to get Quassel 0.6.1. in for final (I uploaded it, so I can't review it) | 18:24 |
| JontheEchidna | debfx: kde bug 234936 seems to be caused by the brightness OSD patch | 18:37 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 234936 in general "Crash on startup" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234936 | 18:38 |
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| neversfelde | ScottK: I had a look at plasma-netbook, the file which needs to be patched has changed and I am afraid I would break everything, if I would try to backport this fix. | 18:54 |
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| neversfelde | bulldog98: amarok uploaded to staging https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages | 19:39 |
| neversfelde | go and find testers :) | 19:39 |
| bulldog98 | is there anyone still using karmic? | 19:42 |
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| ScottK | neversfelde: OK. Let's not break the world. | 19:45 |
| neversfelde | ScottK: probably someone with more experience could do this | 19:46 |
| ScottK | OK. | 19:46 |
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| * ScottK tried logging into Gnome on Lucid and saw the buttons on the left thing for the first time. It gave me a headache. | 20:17 | |
| ScottK | The aubergine was pretty, but I still like blue better. | 20:18 |
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| sithlord48 | ne one know how to reconfig my sound sever so i can select my speakers as default instead of the headphone jack | 20:18 |
| sithlord48 | ok i found out how to fix it for some reson i have an extra volume item for "speaker" that only allows me to change its volume only when set to master channel (it does not show in kmix , and thats even under select channels) | 20:23 |
| debfx | ScottK: could you please apply this patch to the kdebase-workspace package: http://paste.ubuntu.com/420625/ | 20:29 |
| debfx | it should fix kde bug 234663 | 20:30 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 234663 in widget-battery "Plasma crashes when removing battery monitor from panel" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234663 | 20:30 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Hmmm. Do you have JS disabled on www-admin.kubuntu.org? | 20:41 |
| nookie^ | hi guys/girls... what do you think of idea to have brainstorm.kubuntu.org? i think such page could bring alot of good ideas specificly to kubuntu and kde | 20:49 |
| nookie^ | i know there is a section for kubuntu on brainstorm.ubuntu.com but it's not same thing.. it would be better to gather kubuntu users on one place and focus on kubuntu and kde | 20:49 |
| alvin | There is a brainstorm part in the KDE forums | 20:54 |
| nookie^ | alvin: yeah but it's not same thing | 20:55 |
| nookie^ | it's better to have everything connected on kubuntu page | 20:55 |
| alvin | How so? | 20:55 |
| nookie^ | ill explain in a sec.. phone call | 20:55 |
| alvin | Oh, that's true. I guess links should work. | 20:55 |
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| alvin | Too many brainstorm sites, not enough developers. What KDE needs is a step back from new ideas. There already have been more than enough good ones. Then a period of sweet bug fixing. Would make a lot of users happy. | 20:57 |
| alvin | But I guess that's true for a lot of projects. | 20:57 |
| nookie^ | back | 20:57 |
| Tm_T | alvin: there's bugfixing period all the time | 20:58 |
| nookie^ | well you have right there... but i think "normal" users would easier connect if they have one page and it's under kubuntu domain | 20:58 |
| nookie^ | it's not same thing to have brainstorms on different page like on kde forums | 20:58 |
| alvin | Yes, but there's a reason I don't brainstorm. People think of their own priorities first. I would suggest the possibility of importing root certificates in KDE or the addition of an NFS kioslave. Things like that. | 20:59 |
| nookie^ | well... you have right in that point | 20:59 |
| alvin | We have our bugs in bugs.kde.org instead of launchpad | 20:59 |
| nookie^ | but people can suggest things that could be improved in kubuntu and vote for them | 20:59 |
| nookie^ | it will give alot of new ideas for kubuntu | 20:59 |
| nookie^ | ubuntu has tons of them but hardly any are implemented but it give ideas to developers what people really want | 21:00 |
| alvin | That need to be developed by KDE devs. Will they look at a Kubuntu site? | 21:00 |
| Tm_T | alvin: "importing root certificates in KDE" you mean using systemwide root certs? | 21:00 |
| nookie^ | well not everything would be developed by kde devs | 21:00 |
| alvin | Yes, like KDE3 could | 21:00 |
| Tm_T | alvin: already do (:) | 21:01 |
| nookie^ | someone can come up with how new installer could look like, how panel is organized etc etc | 21:01 |
| alvin | For example, when you have your own mailserver and want to use IMAPS (Kolab?) | 21:01 |
| Tm_T | I mean, atleast KDE 4.5 should use systemwide certs by default | 21:02 |
| Tm_T | but that might not be what you want | 21:02 |
| alvin | That's cool, but KDE 4.5 isn't released yet | 21:02 |
| Tm_T | indeed | 21:03 |
| alvin | No, just importing your self-made certificates, so Konqueror and Kmail can trust these | 21:03 |
| Tm_T | ye, hmmm | 21:03 |
| descendent87 | is there a wiki page with brainstorms/ideas for 10.10? Just wanted to have a look at ideas for the next version | 21:59 |
| neversfelde | nixternal: ping | 22:07 |
| nixternal | what? | 22:08 |
| nixternal | hurry? | 22:08 |
| nixternal | err, that should have been 'hurry!' | 22:08 |
| nixternal | ;p | 22:08 |
| nixternal | neversfelde: pongerz | 22:08 |
| ScottK | debfx: I think it will have to be SRU now. | 22:08 |
| neversfelde | nixternal: hi, the german translators of the kubuntu docs asked me, if the translations will be in 10.04? | 22:08 |
| nixternal | yes | 22:09 |
| neversfelde | great :) | 22:09 |
| nixternal | need to work on them this weekend and get them in | 22:09 |
| nixternal | they are at the top of my todo list | 22:09 |
| neversfelde | they were afraid that they are not included and wanted us to create a ppa package | 22:09 |
| neversfelde | nixternal: I will forward this, thank you | 22:09 |
| nixternal | and...we will have point releases after 10.04 is released because people didn't have time to retranslate all of the new stuff in time | 22:09 |
| ScottK | nixternal: You mean "get them in" as in upload to the archive? | 22:09 |
| nixternal | yes | 22:09 |
| nixternal | i have it like that, don't ask | 22:10 |
| nixternal | if i don't, then oh well, there will be bogus docs in the release | 22:10 |
| ScottK | Sooner rather than later please. | 22:10 |
| nixternal | sunday by the latest | 22:10 |
| ScottK | Might end up an SRU by then, not sure. | 22:10 |
| nixternal | then nothing else better be uploaded between now and wednesday...docs don't hurt a darn thing, and need to be on the disk, otherwise the first bug report i get about untranslated docs, i quit | 22:12 |
| nixternal | though, me quitting wouldn't have any effect anyways | 22:12 |
| nixternal | need to come up with a better threat | 22:12 |
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