[00:14] <squisher> wgrant, accepted, thanks
[00:14] <wgrant> squisher: Excellent.
[00:14] <squisher> to use my package in karmic it requires a dependency that's available in lucid. What's the best way to provide the package to the user?
[00:24] <squisher> wgrant, my program is using waf which aborts with an 'ImportError: No module named shutil' error .
[00:24] <squisher> afaik that's part of the standard python install
[00:24] <wgrant> squisher: It is, but it's not part of python2.X-minimal -- make sure you have python2.X itself as well.
[00:25] <squisher> thanks
[00:36] <squisher> wgrant, I hope I'm not bugging you too much, but https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Copying doesn't mention how to copy from one distro to another
[00:36] <squisher> you don't happen to know?
[00:36] <wgrant> squisher: By 'distro' do you mean 'distribution series'?
[00:36] <squisher> eh, yes
[00:37] <wgrant> +copy-packages has a Series dropdown.
[00:37] <squisher> but where do I find the launchpad site for lucid?
[00:37] <squisher> The package i need (grub2) isn't in a ppa
[00:40] <wgrant> squisher: Oh, that's a cross-archive copy. Try https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+copy-packages?field.name_filter=grub2, although you're not really meant to use that.
[00:40] <wgrant> Make sure you copy the binaries too, though!
[00:40] <wgrant> Do not rebuild.
[00:43] <squisher> wgrant, by copying the binaries you mean to select that copy option, right? They're not showing up in the package list
[00:43] <wgrant> squisher: Right.
[01:28] <colorlessprism> i am having problems with karma not updating
[01:32] <colorlessprism> !karma
[01:39] <mathiaz> thumper: hi - re bug 564391
[01:40] <mathiaz> thumper: I probably shouldn't have given an implementation suggestion in the bug
[01:40] <colorlessprism> i am having problems with karma not updating
[01:40] <mathiaz> thumper: however I'd like to be able to track the status of the idea
[01:40] <mathiaz> thumper: ie - I'd like to be able to comment on a bzr branch
[01:41] <mathiaz> thumper: what's the best way to track this?
[02:02] <ubuntujenkins> I subscribed a group which i am an admin of to a blue print but now want to remove them, how do i do it? I can only appear to change my subscription settings
[02:03] <thumper> mathiaz: sorry, was at lunch
[02:06] <mathiaz> thumper: np
[02:06] <thumper> mathiaz: I'd like to get a better grip on what the underlying problem is
[02:07] <mathiaz> thumper: sure - let me give you an example
[02:07] <thumper> mathiaz: is this entirely related to package branches?
[02:07] <mathiaz> thumper: https://code.launchpad.net/~cr3/+junk/dt
[02:07] <mathiaz> thumper: ^^ this is a package that cr3 would like to get included in maverick
[02:08] <mathiaz> thumper: I'd like to be able to comment on his work/branch
[02:08] <thumper> hmm..
[02:08] <thumper> mathiaz: I'm going to have to let my subconcious work on this for a bit
[02:08] <thumper> mathiaz: I don't have any immediate answers
[02:09] <mathiaz> thumper: right - just wanted to raise the use case
[02:09]  * thumper nods
[02:09] <thumper> ok
[02:09] <mathiaz> thumper: now that the bug is marked won't fix - where should I check on that later?
[02:10] <thumper> mathiaz: I think there may be a bug that describes your use case already
[02:10] <thumper> mathiaz: if I can find it, I'll subscribe you
[02:10] <mathiaz> thumper: great - thanks
[02:10] <thumper> mathiaz: if I can't find it, I'll make a new one, and subscribe you
[02:36] <mkanat> Did codebrowse crash...?
[02:42] <mkanat> losa ping
[02:43] <spm> mkanat: yes, by the look of it...
[02:43] <mkanat> spm: Cool. Could you get a core from it with gcore?
[02:43] <spm> hrm. not crash is still there. want some quick debuggery?
[02:43] <mkanat> spm: Yeah. :-)
[02:43] <mwhudson> spm: tail -n 1000 the debug.log now while it's easy?
[02:44] <mkanat> spm: And /thread-debug if you can get it.
[02:44] <mkanat> spm: The log going back 1/2 an hour would be awesome, too.
[02:45] <mkanat> spm: Since it's doing a "Please try again" I'm guessing it's bug 420738 and not bug 513044.
[02:45] <spm> no idea :-)
[02:45] <mwhudson> mkanat: no, for the lru one you get "internal server error" on every page
[02:45] <mwhudson> i.e. a 500 from loggerhead
[02:45] <spm> mwhudson: where's the docco on doing dumps on a live whatsist again?
[02:45] <mwhudson> spm: python backtrace.py $pid
[02:45] <mkanat> mwhudson: That's what I was assuming "Please try again" meant.
[02:45] <spm> ah yes. ta.
[02:45] <mwhudson> where backtrace is in ~mwh/pygdb
[02:46] <mwhudson> mkanat: no, that's an error page from the reverse-proxying apache
[02:46] <mwhudson> mkanat: also the bug 420738 error is fast
[02:47] <mkanat> mwhudson: Okay.
[02:47] <mwhudson> it's good to get all this knowledge out of my head :-)
[02:47] <spm> mwhudson:
[02:47] <spm> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:47] <spm>   File "backtrace.py", line 47, in <module>
[02:47] <spm>     for thread_id in thread_ids:
[02:47] <spm> TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable
[02:48] <mwhudson> spm: um
[02:48] <thumper> spm: #launchpad is probably not the best place for this
[02:48] <mwhudson> spm: try again, i hadn't run bzr pull there recently
[02:48] <thumper> spm, mwhudson, mkanat: how about moving to #loggerhead-debugging
[06:06] <cody-somerville> doctormo, wgrant: In case you didn't hear, Ubuntu SSO is Open Source now.
[06:43] <micahg> cody-somerville: are you going to make xubuntu-users a member of the ubuntu-users LP group?
[06:44] <cody-somerville> I have no intention to do so, why?
[06:44] <micahg> cody-somerville: ah, I saw the invitation on LP and was wondering if I should renew my ubuntu-users membership
[08:50] <wgrant> cody-somerville: Yep, so I saw. Very good news.
[11:18] <danilos> intellectronica, gmb, hi, if I want to link https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit/+bug/560795 with https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37984 do you know how I'd do that?
[11:19] <intellectronica> danilos: do you just want to create a bugwatch with that remote bug, or do you want to assign a launchpad bugtask to that bug?
[11:19] <intellectronica> basically, do we have a webkit project in LP?
[11:19] <danilos> intellectronica, bugwatch would probably be good enough
[11:19] <danilos> intellectronica, we have a webkit project, but I don't know if we have external bug tracker registered
[11:20] <intellectronica> danilos: if you want a bugwatch all you need to do is mention the remote bug in a comment. a bugwatch will be created automagically
[11:20] <danilos> oh, cool, let me try that :)
[11:20] <intellectronica> danilos: if you want a webkit task controlled by that remote bug, click 'Also affects project'... and as part of that drill it will allow you to enter the remote bug URL
[11:22] <danilos> intellectronica, I guess the latter is what I want
[11:22] <intellectronica> danilos: the "wizard" should be pretty self explanatory. choose WebKit (in Launchpad) as the affected product, then use the remote bug URL when asked.
[11:23] <danilos> intellectronica, right, it wasn't like that before, looks pretty cool :)
[11:24] <intellectronica> danilos: for bonus points, talk to whoever runs wekit.org and convince them to start syncing comments with us too. then you can have the complete information in Launchpad (the benefit for them is that they get the attention of the huge community of ubuntu)
[11:26] <danilos> intellectronica, up on my TODO list, but pretty low in there, so I doubt I'll get it done anytime this year :)
[11:27] <intellectronica> :)
[12:07] <humphreybc> there's a typo in the spec workload page
[12:07] <humphreybc> "This page lists the specifications that Benjamin Humphrey is expected to work on, or or is its creator."
[12:07] <humphreybc> "or or is its creator"
[12:07] <humphreybc> "or or"
[12:10] <intellectronica> humphreybc: should be easy to fix, perhaps you feel like giving it a try?
[12:10] <intellectronica> otherwise, please file a bug, eventually someone will pick it up.
[12:10] <humphreybc> blah, i would love to but i don't have time sorry. i'll file a bug
[12:12] <BlackZ> humphreybc: what's the page?
[12:12] <humphreybc> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/~humphreybc/+specworkload
[12:14]  * humphreybc has reported a bug, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/568336
[12:15] <BlackZ> humphreybc: confirmed it
[12:16] <humphreybc> cheers
[12:16] <intellectronica> humphreybc: thanks!
[12:16] <humphreybc> no worries, chaps!
[15:47] <RainCT> Hey
[15:48] <RainCT> I'm wondering, is there any tool to automatically forward stuff from Bugzilla to Launchpad, not involving any changes on the Bugzilla server?
[16:00] <deryck> RainCT, hi.  So you mean some script that you could run against Bugzilla that moves data to LP?  If so, I don't know of anything.
[16:00] <deryck> gmb might know ^^
[16:01] <RainCT> deryck: Yeah, something I could set as a cronjob or whatever which would copy new stuff over to Launchpad.
[16:07] <thekorn> RainCT, haha, I just wanted to aks the very same question ;)
[16:09] <RainCT> :)
[16:12] <azop> RainCT: is there a LP -> Bugzilla addon?
[16:12] <azop> that's backwards, obviously
[16:21] <lfaraone> doctormo: hey, are there any plans to release 1.6 of groundcontrol in... 3 days, or should I backport the webkit fix to 1.5?
[16:24] <gmb> RainCT, Launchpad can forward to all Bugzilla 3.4 instances as long as it has credentials for those instances.
[16:25] <gmb> Other than that the Bugzilla would need the plugin installed.
[16:25] <RainCT> Well I'm asking for bugzilla.gnome.org
[16:25] <gmb> RainCT, But that's baked in to LP and works just for comments; it sounds like you're after something that will do more than that.
[16:25] <gmb> RainCT, We already do some syncing with b.g.o; it's just not been working very well recently (allenap has mostly fixed that now)
[16:26] <RainCT> gmb: Oh. What information can you sync?
[16:27] <gmb> RainCT, We currently sync only bug statuses from Bugzilla to Launchpad. We have the capability to sync comments bidirectionally but don't yet because there are a *lot* of comments to sync and we wanted to get the basics working before we do that.
[16:28] <gmb> We can also sync importance but don't (yet).
[16:39] <doctormo> lfaraone: I can make a release if it will make your job easy
[17:53] <sunny> hey guys, how would I get the source files to this package?
[17:53] <sunny> https://launchpad.net/~andreserl/+archive/ha/+build/1246375
[17:55] <sunny> I've looked high and low to no avail :/
[18:00] <tsimpson> sunny: you can't, it was deleted
[18:02] <sunny> darn, I suspected as much, I could not even find the diff.gz file referenced by the build ouput
[18:02] <sunny> tsimpson: thanks
[18:12] <tommis> hi, when i try to submit translations or do anything in launchpad it complains "No REFERER Header" and i didn`t get whats the broplem from faq page
[18:33] <cody-somerville> rockstar, Can we haz new release of tarmac? kthxbi
[19:26] <mtaylor> hey ho ...
[19:27] <mtaylor> any way I'm just too dumb to see that I can set a branches lifecycle_status through launchpadlib?
[19:27] <mtaylor> I tried:
[19:27] <mtaylor> branches[0].lifecycle_status = u'Abandoned'
[19:27] <mtaylor> branches[0].lp_save()
[19:27] <mtaylor> but that did not work
[19:29] <james_w> mtaylor: did not work == threw an exception or == did nothing?
[19:29] <mtaylor> james_w: did nothing
[19:29] <james_w> odd
[19:30] <james_w> hmm, yeah, now I look, it seems like it may not be having an effect when a script I have tries to set it
[19:32] <mtaylor> lovely
[19:33] <james_w> just testing now
[19:34] <james_w> but now I can't reproduce
[19:35] <mtaylor> fwiw: http://pastebin.com/dB6w4B3H is the full script I'm trying to run
[19:35] <mtaylor> james_w: oh. hrm
[19:36] <james_w> leonardr: actually, I'm seeing lots of requests seemingly duplicated currently. For instance testing ^ sent PATCH twice on lp_save(), with the same request and '' reported as the reply first time. Is that just httplib2 debug reporting oddness
[19:37] <mtaylor> james_w: ok... so now it seems like it might be working...
[19:38] <james_w> mtaylor: odd
[19:38] <leonardr> james_w: show me the httplib2 report?
[19:39] <mtaylor> james_w: yeah - potentially some sort of lag between issuing the api command and seeing the result on the site... very confused why it didn't work at all by hand
[19:39] <james_w> leonardr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/420599/
[19:39] <mtaylor> oh well... main goal seems to be being solved - getting all of my old abandoned branches set that way :)
[19:39] <james_w> mtaylor: it could possibly have been slave lag, but that should only be a few seconds
[19:41] <leonardr> james_w: the only thing i can think of is that there was an error connecting to the server and httplib retried the request
[19:42] <leonardr> or _something_ strange happened on the first request so the request was re-sent
[19:42] <james_w> leonardr: yeah, I'm seeing it every time though.
[19:42] <james_w> maybe it's httplib2 being odd
[19:42] <james_w> like trying to re-use a connection and failing, then making a fresh one?
[19:42] <leonardr> maybe
[19:42] <leonardr> if i were you i'd put breakpoints in httplib2 around the place where 'send:' is written out, and see what happens
[19:43] <james_w> yeah, not going to do that right now, and it doesn't look like it's actually sending two requests over the wire, so I'll leave it until my curiosity gets the better of me
[19:43] <leonardr> ok
[19:43] <leonardr> i haven't seen anything like that btw
[19:44] <mtaylor> james_w: seems to be totally random
[19:44] <mtaylor> james_w: I ran the script and _some_ of the branches wound up with their status changed and some did not
[19:44] <james_w> leonardr: that's fine, I just wondered if you knew this happened every time or something.
[19:44] <leonardr> mtaylor: try this
[19:45] <james_w> leonardr: have you used httplib2 debug on lucid yet?
[19:45] <leonardr> branches = [branch for branch in launchpad.me.getBranches()]
[19:45] <leonardr> for branch in branches:
[19:45] <leonardr> ie. get all the branches before you start modifying them
[19:45] <mtaylor> leonardr: running the script a second time got the ones it had missed
[19:45] <mtaylor> leonardr: ah - hrm, lemme see if i can apply that to something else...
[19:45] <leonardr> sometimes modifying an object will change its place in the collection or remove it from the collection, causing errors when you're iterating over that collection
[19:46] <leonardr> james_w: yes, i've been using it pretty heavily
[19:46] <james_w> hmm, there goes that theory then :-)
[20:26] <davidstrauss> I need to get this converted to a commercial/private project: https://launchpad.net/examiner
[20:29] <cody-somerville> davidstrauss, Do you have a Commercial Subscription?
[20:29] <davidstrauss> cody-somerville: Buying it *right now*
[20:38] <davidstrauss> cody-somerville: It's order number 24101 on the Canonical Store.
[20:38] <davidstrauss> cody-somerville: All paid up.
[20:39] <micahg> what happens to attachments that are uploaded but not attached to bugs?
[20:41] <davidstrauss> cody-somerville: are you there?
[20:42] <cody-somerville> davidstrauss, Sorry, one moment.
[20:48] <persia> micahg: I believe they end up somewhere in the librarian, perhaps with no link.
[20:49] <micahg> persia: k, I would think they should be deleted if no bug is filed w/in a period of time, I'll check for a bug in LP
[20:49] <micahg> actually, I have no idea where such a bug would be
[20:50] <persia> I'd suggest waiting for someone who actually knows for sure, and getting them to point you at the likely existing bug/spec for it.
[20:50] <persia> I can't imagine library-garbage-collection isn't something that nobody previously considered.
[21:04] <geser> persia: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/db-devel/annotate/head%3A/cronscripts/librarian-gc.py
[21:05] <bac> hi davidstrauss
[21:08] <bencrisford> Is there an admin around that can help me with this blueprint please? - https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/education-launchpad-groups
[21:09] <bencrisford> it needs re-assigning as it is still relevent but the assignee is no longer active (or around at all)
[21:15] <bencrisford> sorry if this wasn't the right place to ask
[21:15] <mdke> bencrisford: reassigning how?
[21:16] <bencrisford> mdke: is it not possible for the assignee to be changed?
[21:16] <mdke> bencrisford: I'm sure it is, but who to?
[21:18] <bencrisford> mdke: me
[21:19] <mdke> bencrisford: done
[21:20] <mdke> bencrisford: could you send an email to the previous assignee and copy me in just to let him know, in case he is still interested
[21:20] <bencrisford> mdke: will do, but I doubt he will be, he no longer works for canonical
[21:21] <mdke> bencrisford: yeah, it's just in case. Thanks
[21:22] <bencrisford> mdke: no worries, and thank you ;)
[21:27] <mdke> bencrisford: np. (for future reference #ubuntu-devel is probably the better channel)
[21:27] <bencrisford> mdke: ok, ill go there next time ;) thanks again
[21:28] <mdke> welcome
[21:32] <persia> geser: Thanks.  micahg: no need for a bug: already implemented.
[21:33] <micahg> persia: good to know, thanks
[21:47] <mwhudson> mdke: oh, we deployed the new bzr-git on launchpad a couple of days ago
[21:48] <mdke> mwhudson: hmm. coincidentally I tried the import today and it didn't work :(
[21:48] <mwhudson> mdke: it might be a situation where we need to delete the import and start again
[21:48] <mdke> or rather last night
[21:48] <mdke> mwhudson: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44987441/vcs-imports-gnome-user-docs-master.log
[21:49] <mwhudson> mdke: gotta go now, back in a minute
[21:49] <mdke> mwhudson: sure
[21:51] <mdke> mwhudson: for when you get back, I've no issue with deleting the import and recreating it, as long as I can still merge from the new one into existing branches that were created from the old one
[22:12] <mwhudson> mdke: i think we should delete https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnome-user-docs/master and try again
[22:13] <mwhudson> mdke: see any problems with that?
[22:19]  * mwhudson does it anyway
[22:20] <mwhudson> argh stacking
[22:34] <mdke> mwhudson: I've no issue with deleting the import and recreating it, as long as I can still merge from the new one into existing branches that were created from the old one
[22:34] <mdke> mwhudson: (think you might have missed that message before you timed out)
[22:35] <mwhudson> mdke: yes, you should be able to merge those branches
[22:35] <mwhudson> i can't delete the old import anyway
[22:35] <mdke> should we rename the branch or move it to junk or something?
[22:36] <mwhudson> mdke: i guess marking it abandoned is ok
[22:36] <mwhudson> mdke: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnome-user-docs/trunk fwiw
[22:37] <mdke> got it, thanks
[22:37] <mdke> I'll try a test merge
[22:37] <mwhudson> mdke: i made it dev focus for the project, hope that was the right thing to do
[22:37] <mdke> mwhudson: definitely, thanks
[22:37] <luke-jr> is it possible to have the download list at the right of the Overview page use titles/names rather than useless truncated filenames? :/
[22:38] <davidstrauss> bac: hi :-)
[22:38] <mdke> mwhudson: great, seems to work, thanks again
[22:39] <bac> hi davidstrauss
[22:39] <bac> davidstrauss: i saw your conversation earlier with cody.  did you try to redeem the voucher and had a failure?
[22:39] <davidstrauss> bac: No, haven't even tried that.
[22:40] <davidstrauss> bac: The voucher was purchased by https://launchpad.net/~m-nowpublic
[22:40] <davidstrauss> bac: I'm not sure how to tell him to redeem it
[22:41] <bac> davidstrauss: please ask him to go to https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+vouchers and try to redeem it against your project
[22:41] <bac> he should've gotten instructions at the time of purchase
[22:41] <bac> davidstrauss: we have been seeing some intermittent failures, though, so please ask him to be patient and try a few times.  sorry about that.
[22:42] <mwhudson> grr wifi
[22:42] <luke-jr> ...
[22:44] <luke-jr> no answer for me? :(
[22:48] <davidstrauss> bac: Can I get a Trac instance added to Launchpad?
[22:48] <luke-jr> ...
[22:48] <bac> davidstrauss: i'll see about that.  can you email me the details and i'll work with our bug people tomorrow?
[22:48] <davidstrauss> bac: Sure. Can you PM me your email?
[23:42] <chx> hi. if i do bzr branch lp:~owner/project/trunk lp:~owner/project/mybranch it'll stack automatically?