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addsomebassheya, I am without sound :(03:18
addsomebassdoes Ubuntu do well with integrated sound cards?03:19
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ZeRoDeAtH50435what is a good program from downloading music07:25
AkosZeRoDeAtH50435: what version of ubuntu are you running?07:26
ZeRoDeAtH5043510.04 beta 207:26
AkosZeRoDeAtH50435: well then rhyhtmbox and ubuntu one music store07:27
Akos*rhythmbox07:27
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah but it does not have what I am looking ofr07:27
ZeRoDeAtH50435for07:27
AkosZeRoDeAtH50435: well then try other music stores07:27
ZeRoDeAtH50435I was looking for frostwire but I dont see it07:28
Akosamazon has a music download manager too for linux07:28
Akosfrostwire?07:28
Akosouh, so warez stuff, well, we won't help you with that kind of software around here I guess (:07:29
ZeRoDeAtH50435?07:30
ZeRoDeAtH50435It was it the software center in 9.1007:30
Akosby warez i ment, illegal download of music, but anyway, the software is probably fine07:31
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah I know that07:31
Akosgo to frostwire's website, and check the Download page07:32
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah that was my next stop07:32
ZeRoDeAtH50435and if I had the money to pay for music I would07:32
Akosthere are tons of ways to listen to music free without paying07:33
ZeRoDeAtH50435really where07:53
PD187last.fm does streaming radio stations.08:08
AkosZeRoDeAtH50435: like on grooveshark.com, pandora.com, last.fm and so on08:19
ZeRoDeAtH50435ok08:20
ibuclawspotify is a Windows app, but works in WINE last time I checked08:33
ibuclawZeRoDeAtH50435, ^^08:33
Akoshi ibuclaw (:08:33
Akosgrooveshark also has an adobe air app08:34
ibuclawhttp://www.spotify.com/int/help/faq/wine/08:34
ibuclawthey seem to have taken some care into ensuring WINE compatibility08:35
ibuclawbtw, did anyone read the Adobe Flash update?08:36
ibuclawapparently they've dumped iPod for Android.08:36
* ibuclaw hopes this will mean better flash support for Linux Desktop too08:37
Akosibuclaw: well, they've gave up entirely on iphone os08:37
ibuclawyeah, that is the one... (/me forgets all the iNames)08:38
ibuclawbtw, can anyone recommend a good icon theme?08:41
ddecatornow if only spotify was in the US08:41
Akosuh uh, if i'll remember ...08:41
Akosi can't :\08:41
ibuclawthink this http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/332/201004220842101024x600s.png08:42
Akosi can't open links, i'm httpslly disabled atm :\08:42
ibuclawcp and paste08:42
Akosas i said, i can't OPEN, not click or paste :P08:43
ibuclawor type out manually08:43
Akoshttp is disabled on my machine, i'm at work08:43
ibuclawwget08:43
ibuclaw=)08:43
Akosi can only connect to the virtual machine login page, and that's all, on the other hand i have connection, even http, but typing in by hand that image is looooooooooong08:43
ibuclawhttp://tinyurl.com/25j9wp408:44
Akosthank you (:08:44
Akosibuclaw: what window manager is this?08:44
ibuclawopenbox08:44
ibuclawyou are looking at the panel ... aren't you? ;)08:45
Akoslooks cool08:45
ibuclawmade it myself08:45
Akosyeah, of course :P08:45
* ibuclaw wanted something tint2-like, but much lighter08:45
Akosmy problem with other window managers, is that they lack the gnome features, ubuntu one, me menu and other intergrations08:46
ibuclawso have a bitmap-oriented panel08:46
ibuclawwhat you see there isn't rendered, it's just splicing together images08:46
ibuclawcurrently working on a builtin battery/power monitor though08:48
Akosoh wow08:48
ibuclawmy netbook has already lost power twice because I fail to keep track of time, lol08:48
Akoshaha08:49
ibuclawluckily (as of 2.6.23) Linux has a nice battery interface08:50
ibuclaw/sys/class/power_supply08:50
ibuclawand within that there are files that output the current tracking of power usage08:51
ibuclaw/sys/class/power_supply/*/present08:51
ibuclaw/sys/class/power_supply/*/status08:51
ibuclaw/sys/class/power_supply/*/charge_now08:51
ibuclaw/sys/class/power_supply/*/charge_full08:52
ibuclawetc08:52
ibuclawso with some maths work, can figure out Watt usage, percentage full, and time till power is depleted.08:52
ibuclawalso the reverse, time till battery is fully charged too08:52
thatGuyInTheSuitHello All09:43
leoquantHi!09:47
ibuclawthatGuyInTheSuit welcome09:54
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znxtchIs it possible to Jailbreak my IPhone using Wine and then sync my music using Ubuntu?14:12
Akoshi znxtch. Awesome question, I guess you should wait for someone with an iphone (:14:13
znxtchi meant to say ipod touch14:15
znxtchim dumb14:15
Zaturnhow do i edit fstab, it won't allow me to save it when i use notepad14:21
phillwZaturn: you need to invoke the editor with gksudo from the command line e.g.  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab  but be very careful when editing it, you nac break your system14:32
phillwnac = can14:33
Zaturnphillw: is this a good line to add to the fstab file when i try to force the mounting of a disk called "693GB"?   *     /dev/sde1 /media/693GB ntfs-3g force 0 0       *   ? Please note the spaces14:33
Zaturnlol nac14:33
phillwi've never used the force option, i generally let the disk utility application get on with it14:34
Zaturnphillw: me too, but sometiemes im .... forced to :)14:36
phillwZaturn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5977458&postcount=5  warns to NOT use force14:37
Zaturnphillw: hmmm yeah but they run fine in windows ...14:38
phillwwell, one user uses force, as they sometimes need it, just be aware of warning & decide which way to go.14:39
Zaturnthanks!14:39
Zaturnchow!14:39
emgomezanyone around to help with a fun printer screwup?15:18
emgomezprinters yay!15:18
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CtrlAlthey guys, how can i make the windows burn when i close them?16:45
CtrlAlti have no 'burn' effect; the other effects are there, they work perfectly and look amazing and all that16:49
CtrlAltbut the 'burn' effect is missing16:49
CtrlAltnevermind, i found it16:50
CtrlAltsorry16:50
nigelbabuquit16:51
znxtchhttps://launchpad.net/~pmcenery/+archive/ppa16:57
znxtchOkay I installed this into my sources list16:57
znxtchmy question16:57
znxtch. . .16:57
znxtchthe packages at the bottom of the page16:57
znxtchso i just have to go through and sudo apt-get install  all of them16:57
ddecatorznxtch: if they depend on one another, they will be marked for installation anyway. if they don't, then you don't necessarily have to install all of them17:05
znxtchIs there a way to delete all the B.S. I've dumped into my Ubuntu setup and ust be back at ground zero. . .without reinstaling Ubuntu completely?17:10
ddecatorthe best way i know of is to use the Software Center, go to Installed Software, and then remove what you no longer need17:13
ddecatoron that note, i have to get to class. sorry i can't stay and help, but i'm sure someone else can =)17:13
ddecatorcya17:13
nigelbabuddecator: Hey, welcome to BT :)17:22
nigelbabuI wanted to say that in a mail, but I guess I didn't get time17:22
pedro3005ubuntu-beginners-dev17:43
pedro3005erm17:43
LzrdKingBT? BitTorrent?17:57
nigelbabubeginners team17:58
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LzrdKingi like BitTorrent better18:03
LzrdKingare DMPS calls logged in Xorg.log?18:03
LzrdKingi can;t get to my logs now but my one monitor keeps shutting off and i'm wondering if its due to dpms18:03
LzrdKingjMyles_: you ok?18:26
man0riaXHeya18:52
znxtchcompiledkernel19:33
znxtchwe meet again19:33
ddecatornigelbabu: thanks =)19:33
compiledkernelznxtch: indeed.19:36
ddecatori feel like you two are arch nemeses or something...19:37
znxtchno i just dont know anyone ese19:39
znxtchelse19:39
znxtchand i was feeling attention deprived...19:39
znxtchchildhood thing. . .19:39
ddecatorwell you'll get to know a lot of us19:39
znxtchHey I got another AWESOME new guy question.19:39
znxtchI think you're going to like it.19:40
ddecatorlets hear it19:40
znxtchIs there a way. . .19:40
znxtchto remove all this B.S. I've been installing trying to experiment with software and return ubuntu to a somewhat default state?    without reinstalling19:40
ddecatordidn't like the software center idea?19:41
znxtchwhen I say B.S.19:41
znxtchi mean more like the little packages and suppoting packages that have piled up\19:41
znxtchI feel like there are still things floating around19:41
ddecatorsudo apt-get auto-remove19:41
ddecatoror is it just autoremove...19:41
znxtchfollowed by package name?19:42
ddecatorsudo apt-get autoremove19:42
ddecatorthat will offer to remove all packages you no longer need19:42
znxtchHow does it determine what I need?19:42
ddecatorthat were previously installed automatically with other packages19:42
znxtchReading package lists... Done19:43
znxtchBuilding dependency tree19:43
znxtchReading state information... Done19:43
znxtch0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.19:43
znxtchmaybe i cleaned up okay the first time then huh?19:43
ddecatorlooks that way =)19:43
znxtchf yeah!19:43
znxtchNow for a real zinger19:44
znxtchI'm looking for educated personal opinions here19:45
znxtchaudioplayers19:45
znxtchamarok would be awesome but no eq19:45
ddecatordepends on what you want to do with it19:45
znxtchany other reccomendations for sound quality19:45
shahanhello everybody19:46
ddecatori like songbird because of the add-ons, but the latest version isn't available from the PPA yet...19:46
ddecatorshahan: hey19:46
Raidsongopinions? i have opinions19:47
shahanddecator: problem19:47
shahaninstalling .taz.bz2 files19:47
ddecatorshahan: and that is?19:47
shahanI dont know how to do it19:47
ddecatortar.bz2 files generally contain the source of a program. what are you trying to install exactly?19:47
shahandont know how to install thunderbird-3.0.4.tar.bz219:47
ddecatorah, right19:48
shahanddecator: thunderbird-3.0.4.tar.bz219:48
ddecatorthe ubuntu mozilla team needs to get the thunderbird stable PPA up =p19:48
shahanddecator: how to get this?19:48
ddecatorshahan: extract that, then look for a 'thunderbird' file inside the folder19:48
geirhashahan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion19:48
ddecatoryah, the mozilla daily ppa has it, but that will also upgrade firefox and everything, if you don't mind that...19:49
znxtchddecator: are you using karmic?19:49
ddecatorznxtch: lucid19:49
znxtchsongbird will work on karmic?19:50
ddecatorworks on karmic, broken on lucid atm...at least in the PPA, i got it working, but it needs to be merged in after lucid is released19:50
shahanddecator: what is PPA?19:51
ddecatorshahan: Personal Package Archive. it's a way for people to release software that isn't in the official repos for various reasons19:51
shahanddecator: hmm19:51
shahanddecator: I am installing the older version from UBUNTU SOFTWARE CENTER19:52
ddecatorshahan: sounds good. if you decide to upgrade to lucid after the release, then you will get the 3.0.x version19:52
ddecatorthey may backport it to karmic as well, idk what the plan is right now...19:53
shahanddecator: because so far I have realised that the ubuntu corporation doesnt like to install latest version from mozilla website19:53
shahanddecator: they only support the 2.0..... version19:53
ddecatorshahan: it works fine if you use the Ubuntu Mozilla Team's daily PPA, but like i said you'll get the daily version of Thunderbird and Firefox, which aren't quite as stable19:53
ddecatorer, potentially not as stable at least19:53
znxtchis there reasons why you wouldnt update to lucid whenits released?19:53
ddecatorznxtch: large update, some people might not think it's worth it, don't like certain changes...19:54
shahanhmm19:54
shahanhowever...19:55
shahanI want to make a customized distro ...19:55
shahanddecator: do u have any idea?19:55
ddecatorshahan: about what exactly?19:56
znxtchdd19:57
znxtchmind lending a hand with my songbird install?19:57
shahanddecator: that is .... all the software installed in my PC ... I will make a distro.... If any one install this distro, he will get all the software installed on my pc same...that is like clone19:57
ddecatorznxtch: how are you trying to install it?19:57
ddecatorshahan: depends on how you setup the distro...19:58
shahanhe will get all the codec installed, all the software like skype, chrome, teamviewer, VLC, Multiget.... everything which I have installed on my PC19:58
znxtchdisregard19:58
znxtchfigured it out19:58
znxtchwas missing a sudo in front of the tar command19:58
shahanddecator: like a cloned distro19:58
ddecatorshahan: unfortunately i don't really know much about how that would work19:59
ddecatorznxtch: you could use the daily PPA, it still works on karmic19:59
znxtchgot it running20:00
znxtchthanks though20:00
ddecatorno problem20:00
shahanddecator: installed20:04
ddecatorshahan: good deal =)20:04
shahanusing gmail on it20:04
shahanI like thunderbird20:04
shahanits very easy to use gmail in thunderbird20:04
shahanddecator: where r u from?20:04
ddecatornice. i use thunderbird for backing up my emails and i use prism to run gmail20:05
ddecatorshahan: i'm in chicago20:05
shahanhmm20:05
shahanUK?20:05
ddecatorme?20:07
shahanddecator: yes20:07
ddecatorchicago is in the US20:08
shahanddecator: where is chicago?20:08
ddecatorin illinois (United States Midwest)20:08
shahanddecator: hmm20:08
shahanI want a good graphical website designning software in ubuntu20:10
compiledkernelshahan: you mean something to build HTML with, or otherwise?20:11
LzrdKingare DPMS calls logged in Xorg.log?  I can't get to my logs right now but my one monitor keeps shutting off and i'm wondering (hoping!) if its due to DPMS20:11
shahancompiledkernel: yes exactly... like Dreamweaver in Windows20:11
compiledkernelshahan: bluefish I think is the known accepted20:11
compiledkernelhowever20:12
shahancompiledkernel: I dont like bluefish20:12
compiledkernelScreem.org aka Screem html/xml editor20:12
compiledkernelis also acceptable20:12
shahancompiledkernel: very poor20:12
compiledkernelshahan: I would disaggree20:12
compiledkernelits not pretty20:12
compiledkernelbut its effective20:12
shahancompiledkernel: why?20:12
compiledkernelyou wish to code html, correct shanan?20:13
ddecatorheh, shahan ^20:13
shahancompiledkernel: no20:13
shahanddecator: what?20:13
compiledkernelyou want an ide then20:14
compiledkernelKdevelop, Anjuta20:14
ddecatorshahan: your name wasn't spelled right in that message, so i wanted to make sure you got a ping still20:14
compiledkernelif I have to use a gui (I normally code with vim)20:14
compiledkernelI use Geany20:14
shahancompiledkernel: I want to design the web very easily. creating table, colour...everything with grphical interface20:14
compiledkernelcut/copy/paste ide's20:14
compiledkernelblah20:14
compiledkernelweak20:14
compiledkernelbut20:14
compiledkernelI suppose if you have to do it20:14
shahanddecator: :)20:15
compiledkernelKdevelop will probably do it20:15
shahancompiledkernel: give me a clear idea about it.. please20:15
compiledkernelif your going to do java, refer to Eclipse20:15
shahanI will do HTML and PHP only20:15
compiledkernelshahan: http://jeez.eu/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/kdevelop_screen.png20:15
compiledkernelthats  screenie of kdevelop20:16
shahancompiledkernel: need to make good table, giving colour...etc20:16
compiledkernelthat can be done with a text editor shahan20:16
compiledkernelyour only hurting yourself by depending on cut/copy/paste ide's20:16
compiledkernelfor development20:17
shahancompiledkernel: yes...but I want to modify a lot of pages I have created with dreamweaver20:17
compiledkernelI suppose quanta could be used20:18
znxtchddecator:  how do I chge my watched folder i songbird?20:18
ddecatorznxtch: Tools > Options > Media Importer > Watch Folders20:19
shahancompiledkernel: is there no software like this?20:19
shahancompiledkernel: ok20:20
shahancompiledkernel: quanta...how Megabyte?20:20
compiledkernelshahan: its not large, quanta isnt.20:21
compiledkernelI believe wine supports dreamweaver20:21
compiledkernelif thats really a consideration.20:21
compiledkerneleither way , I really think your doing more harm than good for yourself development wise by depending on an IDE to perform the actions.20:21
shahancompiledkernel: tnx for giving time20:22
compiledkernelaye20:22
shahancompiledkernel: let me check the quanta20:22
shahancompiledkernel: going to sleep20:22
shahancompiledkernel: its 1 22 AM there20:22
shahanhave to get up early in the morning for Morning Prayer (NAMAZ)20:23
znxtchSongbird is flippin' suhweet!20:25
znxtchthanks for turning me on to it dd20:25
ddecator1.8.0~a will be available after the lucid release via the PPA20:25
ddecatorznxtch: there are add-ons for MMKey support and other things, such as lyricmaster (a personal favorite)20:25
znxtchyeah lyrics master rocks!20:26
ddecatori still need to patch 1.8.0 so it has MMKey support be default..not sure how i'll do that yet20:26
znxtchmmkey?20:26
ddecatorMultimedia Keys, such as the play, pause, etc. buttons at the top of some laptops20:27
znxtchi do have those ;)20:28
ddecatorcd ripping doesn't work yet either, that's also on the to-do list20:28
znxtchipod support?20:29
ddecatoranyway, i have to go take a midterm, i'll be back in a couple of hours20:29
ddecatorznxtch: it's an add-on, not sure how well it works. i know they're working on improving it, but it might not work at all on linux (idk if it can communicate with USBs yet)20:29
znxtchchk20:30
ZeRoDeAtH50435anyone know how to get a wireless brother scanner to work on 10.0420:31
compiledkernelZeRoDeAtH50435: model number please.20:31
compiledkernelZeRoDeAtH50435: probably not. Accoring to sane site, most of , if not all of their scanners are unsupported.20:32
ZeRoDeAtH50435MFC-255CW20:32
compiledkernelhttp://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-BROTHER20:32
ZeRoDeAtH50435it was really easy to get the printer to work once I set my windows computer as the host It auto-detected on here and that was it20:33
compiledkernelscanners are a different story entirely ZeRoDeAtH5043520:34
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah I was afraid of that20:34
compiledkernelsane support is sparse, most of the popular units work, but not near as much as printers that are supported.20:34
ZeRoDeAtH50435right20:35
compiledkernelsorry to disappoint ZeRoDeAtH5043520:35
ZeRoDeAtH50435no its ok just have to fax it20:35
compiledkernellol20:35
ZeRoDeAtH50435?20:38
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LzrdKingcan someont give me a command line solution for detecting when my wireless card disconnects, then reconnect it?  iwconfig still showed the essis but it wasn't associated20:57
LzrdKingit was easy for me to get my scanner to work on the box it was plugged into; over the network not so much21:27
ddecatorZeRoDeAtH50435: simple scan doesn't work?22:15
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah22:15
Bodsdaevenin all22:16
ddecatorhey Bodsda22:16
ddecatorwhoa, i got an email from you earlier...22:16
Bodsdahey ddecator - hows things?22:16
ddecatorBodsda: pretty good, just took a midterm exam so now it's officially the weekend for me. how are you?22:17
Bodsdaddecator: heh, not too bad ta, just had my corporate induction today - Explaining IT infrastructure modifications and virtualization projects to comeplete technophobes22:17
ddecatori dread teaching how email works to technophobes..22:18
Bodsdaemail... thats magic, these guys dont understand what a browser is22:18
ddecatori feel sorry for you22:19
* Bodsda thinks IT basics should be mandatory to anyone owning a phone line22:19
ddecatorpeople would go phoneless before learning IT basics22:19
Bodsdalol, probably - as long as they could send letters to faceboo22:19
Bodsdafacebook*22:19
ddecatorand text22:20
Bodsdaddecator: you coming to the -dev meeting tonight?22:20
ddecatorBodsda: what will it be about?22:20
Bodsdaddecator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Meeting22:21
ddecatorBodsda: yah sure, i'll be there (unless something comes up)22:21
Bodsdacool22:22
ddecatori'm guessing it will be in -dev?22:22
Bodsdayeah22:22
ddecatoralright, i'm in there22:23
emgomezanyone handy to help me with a printer issue?22:32
emgomezi have an hp-check log here: http://pastebin.com/CQEDWx8p22:32
ddecatorthis may sound stupid, but have you unplugged the usb and replugged it into your computer? that tends to work for me most of the time22:33
emgomezyeah22:43
emgomezi have22:43
emgomezi also unplugged it from the wall and plugged it back in, in conjunction with unplugging/replugging the usb22:44
ddecatorone thing you can try is unplugging the usb, going to System > Administration > Printing, deleting the printer in there, then reconnect the usb so it resets the connects (assuming you haven't set settings on there you don't want to lose)22:45
emgomezbelieve me, i did that too22:45
Bodsdaemgomez: unfortunately I dont have an answer for you im afraid - try googling the error error: Unable to communicate with device (code=12) - you may get a better response from #ubuntu as not many people seem to be at their computers here ta the moment im afraid22:45
* phillw doesn't have an HP printer to test it with, sorry22:47
ddecatorhm, i've never had that much issue with my HP printer =\22:47
ddecatorthe only other suggestion i have is double checking that hplip is installed and possibly reinstalling it..22:48
phillwddecator: HP printers do seem to work well with linux, these all in one systems seem to be problems though.22:48
ddecatorphillw: i have a printer/scanner/copier22:49
phillwemgomez: if you post up your make & model of printer, I'll gladly go looking for you.22:49
emgomezit's not an all-in-one, but it's a laserjet P1006, which apparently a lot of people had trouble with out of the box22:49
ddecatoroh, i have that printer at home..22:49
ddecatori never had trouble...22:49
emgomezit originally did this thing where the system claimed it printed and recognized the printer and everything, but nothing printed22:50
ddecatorwhat version of ubuntu?22:50
emgomezand i got that fixed using the foomatic drivers22:50
emgomezlast fall's, 9.1022:50
ddecatorhplip worked fine for me on 9.10. hm =\22:50
emgomezbut then yesterday, it ran out of paper while in the middle of a printer job22:50
emgomezwhich apparently ruined it22:51
emgomezor else it was a solar flare, i suppose22:51
ddecatori did have to reinstall hplip once, so that might help22:51
emgomezyeah, it's a weird issue, not everyone with a 1006 had trouble apparently, just a particular few people22:51
emgomezhmm22:51
phillwemgomez: this thread is marked [solved], which is always a good pointer ;-) http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/forum/read.php?43,2400,240022:52
ddecatoror they bought a new printer and called it a solution, who knows ;)22:52
ddecatori've used nothing but hp printers with my system though, and i've never run into issues22:52
ddecatorat least not since 9.0422:53
phillwddecator: well there's also this interesting(?) one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144210022:54
ddecatorthat's a weird issue...22:55
phillwddecator: as i've been flitting between operating systems, I've not actually sat down and got either of the HP laser printers working on my laptop, it's on my 'To Do' list when 10.04 properly settles.22:57
emgomezwell, i removed and reinstaled hplip22:57
emgomeznow i have a new error22:58
ddecatorour laserjet works on 10.04 for me, haha22:58
emgomezUnable to write 8192 bytes to printer!22:58
ddecatoremgomez: fun, haha. what's the new one?22:58
ddecatorhuh..22:58
emgomezthe exclamation point is pretty endearing22:58
emgomezit's like even the computer is freaked out about it not working like it should22:58
ddecatorwhen do you get that error?22:58
emgomezit's sitting there in the properties pane if i open up System-Admin-Printing22:59
emgomezthe properties of the particular printer, i mean to say22:59
emgomezunder "Printer State"22:59
ddecatorwhat if you delete the printer then reconnect it so it recollects the information?23:00
emgomezif i try to printer, the same 8192 bytes message shows--- WHAT23:00
emgomezWHAT23:00
emgomeznow it's printing23:00
emgomezWHAT THE HECK23:00
emgomezhm23:00
emgomezokay23:00
emgomezonly the first page23:00
ddecatorprinting is progress =p23:00
emgomezokay, so i just tried to print a test page23:01
emgomezfrom the printer dialog23:01
emgomezand it got sent as if it was working and the little printer queue popped up23:01
emgomezbut no printing is happening23:01
ddecatordid you remove the printer then reconnect so it reset?23:02
emgomezand under printer status, it says "Processing: If you have another 1006 printer connected to this machine, please remove it and blacklist..."23:02
emgomezbut the message doesn't wrap and my laptop screen is only so big23:02
ddecatorshouldn't have to blacklist anything23:02
ddecatorit sounds like it's confusing itself, haha23:03
emgomezwell, i removed hplip and upgraded it and then shut down the printer and unplugged the usb23:03
emgomezand then plugged the usb back in and then started the printer back up23:03
emgomezi don't even know what blacklisting is or how to do it23:03
ddecatordelete the job, unhook the usb, delete the printer in Printing, then reconnect the usb for the printer so it re-establishes the connection and see if that works23:03
* ddecator should be thankful he hasn't run into these printer issues before23:04
emgomezokay, i just did that23:05
emgomezthe printer configured23:05
emgomezi sent a job to it, which is "Processing"23:05
emgomezbut my orange error light on the printer is blinking23:05
ddecator...any idea what that's supposed to mean?23:06
emgomezLMFAO23:06
emgomezi wish23:06
emgomezno status error messages are reporting via the print manager23:07
emgomezi mean23:07
emgomezthis is what happened when it ran out of paper midway through a job23:07
emgomezso i put more paper in23:07
emgomezand it whirred a little bit23:07
emgomezbut the light didn't go away, so i thought "hey, i'll push the hardware button marked with a big red X. that must mean something."23:07
emgomezand the light went away23:08
emgomezbut nothing else worked23:08
emgomezsigh23:08
emgomezi guess i'll push it again23:08
emgomezoooh23:08
emgomezthe test page is printing23:08
ddecatorprogress =)23:09
emgomeznot really23:09
emgomezso i printed a two page document23:09
emgomezand again, the first page prints23:09
emgomezand then the error light comes back on23:09
ddecatorpaper jam?23:09
emgomezbut the system is convinced that that the print job was successful23:10
emgomezwell, it didn't pull in a second sheet that could have gotten jammed23:10
emgomezall sheets of paper present and accounted for23:10
ddecatorright, but my printer freaks out sometimes if the stack is too big, try having just 5 sheets in there, then print the 2 pages23:12
emgomezoh honest to god, if taking out some paper solves this, i don't know what i'll do23:13
emgomeznah, same deal, prints the first page and then the error light blinks on23:13
ddecatorheh, mind looking up what that light means?23:13
emgomezin the documentation that came with the printer?23:15
ddecatoror possibly an online version23:16
emgomezyeah, i'm downloading it now23:16
ddecatorhp might have pdfs of their manuals23:16
ddecatorok, good deal23:16
emgomezi just didnt know if you meant the docs or some status report in the terminal you wanted me to run23:16
ddecatornah, the docs23:17
ddecatorif we know that the problem is, it'll help us know if it's really software or something else23:17
emgomez*coughs*23:18
emgomezwell23:18
ddecatorwell?23:19
emgomezAttention                    Close the print-cartridge door,23:19
emgomez                             remove the paper jam, install23:19
emgomez                             the cartridge, or add paper.23:19
emgomezHP LaserJet P100023:19
emgomezSeries:23:19
emgomez●    Print-cartridge door is23:19
emgomez     open23:19
emgomez●    Paper jam23:19
emgomez●    No cartridge installed23:19
emgomez●    Paper out23:19
emgomezprobably not the most helpful documentation in the history of documentation23:19
emgomezi already opened it up to check if there was a jam23:19
emgomezthere isn't23:19
ddecatorha, but at least it suggests it isn't software...maybe the toner is low?23:20
emgomezthen i would have expected to see fading on the printing, particularly from the test page23:21
emgomezbut i haven't23:21
emgomezand it doesn't really explain why i can send a document, it will print the only the first page and then the error light comes on23:21
emgomezbut i dont get an error message from the print console, saying the job had to be aborted, or whatever23:22
ddecatorhm, and after opening and closing the printer, it still only prints one page?23:22
emgomezmmm, after opening and closing it, it whirs up, the ready light goes on and the second page just printed23:23
ddecatoro.o23:24
ddecatortry printing both pages again to see if they both print without a problem23:24
emgomezwell23:25
emgomezi printed another two page document23:25
emgomezwhich came out just fine23:25
emgomezwithout error lights23:25
emgomezAHHHH23:26
ddecatoragain?23:26
emgomezthen i go back to print the same document i was testing with23:26
emgomezand right, only the first page and then the error light goes on23:26
emgomezthe document that worked was a news article in firefox23:26
emgomezthe one that fails is a pdf23:26
ddecatorhm...23:27
emgomezi guess i should try and .odt and see what happens23:27
emgomezand then opening and closing the top again gets the second page to print23:27
ddecatorvery odd...23:27
emgomezthe openoffice document goes through just fine23:29
ddecatordo you have another pdf you can test with?23:29
emgomezi just did23:30
emgomezsame deal, prints the first page and then the error light goes on23:30
emgomezat least it's predictable23:30
ddecatorso it's just pdfs..at least so far23:31
ddecatorusing hplip?23:31
emgomezi'm pretty sure i am?23:32
emgomezthe manager is system-config-printer23:33
ddecatorwell you mentioned something about using the foo driver earlier i thought23:33
emgomezsigh23:33
emgomezyou might have to give me a lesson on the difference exactly23:34
emgomezhplip is a set of drivers or a manager?23:34
emgomezbecause i also have this HP device manager thing that sits in my system tray and seems pretty useless23:34
emgomezand actually doesn't have the 1006 on it although it used to, before i uninstalled the printer from absolutely everything last night23:35
ddecatorwell hplip-cups is a driver, but there is also the manager23:35
emgomezokay, i'm 99% sure i'm not using the manager, although i think it's running23:35
emgomezand the printer is using the foo drivers23:35
emgomezaccording to system-config-printing, although i can't seem to change the drivers -- everything hangs if i try, or else sometimes it says that the drivers were installed successfully but the change isn't reflected in the manager23:36
ddecatorhm, one sec23:37
ddecatorhuh, you might have to set it up manually to change the driver...23:40
emgomezwhich would involve doing what exactly?23:42
ddecatorin the preferences for the printer, next to Make and Model, select change, select HP, find the model, then choose to create a new PPD, which -should- allow you to choose the driver from a list23:42
emgomezi have "provide PPD file"23:43
emgomezbut i mean, am i changing it to an hplip driver?23:44
ddecatoryah, to test that23:45
emgomezokay, but i don't see where on the hplip site i can just download the ppd files23:46
emgomezwell, let me go through the installation checklist and see what happens23:46
ddecatorthe PPD is created when you first connect the printer23:46
emgomezoh23:46
emgomezwhere would i find it in the filesystem?23:47
ddecatoryour sure that it's using the foo driver?23:47
ddecatoryou're*23:47
emgomezthe config dialog says "Make and Model: HP LaserJet P1006 Foomatic/foo2xqx (recommended)"23:48
emgomezso... i don't know any other way i should check?23:48
ddecatorhuh, mine is hpijs23:49
ddecatorwhich i thought was the default..23:49
ddecatordo you have hpijs installed?23:49
emgomezwell, i'm pretty sure i'm not using the default because this printer didn't work when i first plugged it in23:49
emgomezand this was the fix that worked for me: http://reclusivegeek.wordpress.com/2008/12/27/installing-hp-laserjet-p1006-on-ubuntu-810/23:50
emgomezno, i don't have hpijs installed23:50
emgomezshould i install it?23:50
ddecatorsure23:51
emgomezwheeeeee23:51
ddecatorthat's what has worked for me23:51
emgomezshould i install the suggested packages?23:52
emgomezhpijs-ppds hplip-doc kdeprint gtklp xpp hplip-gui23:52
ddecatoryes23:52
emgomezuh23:53
emgomezConfiguration file `/etc/xdg/autostart/hplip-systray.desktop'23:53
emgomez ==> File on system created by you or by a script.23:53
emgomez ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.23:53
emgomez   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:23:53
emgomez    Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version23:53
emgomez    N or O  : keep your currently-installed version23:53
emgomez      D     : show the differences between the versions23:53
emgomez      Z     : background this process to examine the situation23:53
emgomez The default action is to keep your current version.23:53
emgomez*** hplip-systray.desktop (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?23:53
ddecatorjust keep your own i guess, shouldn't matter23:54
emgomezokay23:54
emgomezso it's installed, should i delete the printer and unplug/reinstall it?23:55
emgomezor just try printing?23:55
ddecatordelete and do the unplug stuff23:56
emgomezmmm, error light is back23:57
ddecatoris it using hpijs?23:57
emgomezthis is potentially going to culminate in a reenactment of the printer scene from office space23:57
ddecatorgood scene, but i hope that doesn't happen, haha23:58
emgomezit didn't automatically configue23:58
emgomez*configure23:58
ddecatorwhat'd it do?23:58
emgomeznothing23:58
emgomezit's searching for printers right now23:58
emgomezand i'm configuring manually23:58
ddecatorheh, i love printers...23:59
emgomeznow it's hanging....23:59
emgomezME TOO23:59
emgomezthis is such a good printer when it works23:59
emgomezi love having a laserprinter23:59

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