=== mohi_away is now known as mohi1 === running_rabbit07 is now known as uRock === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 === mohi1 is now known as mohi_away [03:18] heya, I am without sound :( [03:19] does Ubuntu do well with integrated sound cards? === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes [07:25] what is a good program from downloading music [07:26] ZeRoDeAtH50435: what version of ubuntu are you running? [07:26] 10.04 beta 2 [07:27] ZeRoDeAtH50435: well then rhyhtmbox and ubuntu one music store [07:27] *rhythmbox [07:27] yeah but it does not have what I am looking ofr [07:27] for [07:27] ZeRoDeAtH50435: well then try other music stores [07:28] I was looking for frostwire but I dont see it [07:28] amazon has a music download manager too for linux [07:28] frostwire? [07:29] ouh, so warez stuff, well, we won't help you with that kind of software around here I guess (: [07:30] ? [07:30] It was it the software center in 9.10 [07:31] by warez i ment, illegal download of music, but anyway, the software is probably fine [07:31] yeah I know that [07:32] go to frostwire's website, and check the Download page [07:32] yeah that was my next stop [07:32] and if I had the money to pay for music I would [07:33] there are tons of ways to listen to music free without paying [07:53] really where [08:08] last.fm does streaming radio stations. [08:19] ZeRoDeAtH50435: like on grooveshark.com, pandora.com, last.fm and so on [08:20] ok [08:33] spotify is a Windows app, but works in WINE last time I checked [08:33] ZeRoDeAtH50435, ^^ [08:33] hi ibuclaw (: [08:34] grooveshark also has an adobe air app [08:34] http://www.spotify.com/int/help/faq/wine/ [08:35] they seem to have taken some care into ensuring WINE compatibility [08:36] btw, did anyone read the Adobe Flash update? [08:36] apparently they've dumped iPod for Android. [08:37] * ibuclaw hopes this will mean better flash support for Linux Desktop too [08:37] ibuclaw: well, they've gave up entirely on iphone os [08:38] yeah, that is the one... (/me forgets all the iNames) [08:41] btw, can anyone recommend a good icon theme? [08:41] now if only spotify was in the US [08:41] uh uh, if i'll remember ... [08:41] i can't :\ [08:42] think this http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/332/201004220842101024x600s.png [08:42] i can't open links, i'm httpslly disabled atm :\ [08:42] cp and paste [08:43] as i said, i can't OPEN, not click or paste :P [08:43] or type out manually [08:43] http is disabled on my machine, i'm at work [08:43] wget [08:43] =) [08:43] i can only connect to the virtual machine login page, and that's all, on the other hand i have connection, even http, but typing in by hand that image is looooooooooong [08:44] http://tinyurl.com/25j9wp4 [08:44] thank you (: [08:44] ibuclaw: what window manager is this? [08:44] openbox [08:45] you are looking at the panel ... aren't you? ;) [08:45] looks cool [08:45] made it myself [08:45] yeah, of course :P [08:45] * ibuclaw wanted something tint2-like, but much lighter [08:46] my problem with other window managers, is that they lack the gnome features, ubuntu one, me menu and other intergrations [08:46] so have a bitmap-oriented panel [08:46] what you see there isn't rendered, it's just splicing together images [08:48] currently working on a builtin battery/power monitor though [08:48] oh wow [08:48] my netbook has already lost power twice because I fail to keep track of time, lol [08:49] haha [08:50] luckily (as of 2.6.23) Linux has a nice battery interface [08:50] /sys/class/power_supply [08:51] and within that there are files that output the current tracking of power usage [08:51] /sys/class/power_supply/*/present [08:51] /sys/class/power_supply/*/status [08:51] /sys/class/power_supply/*/charge_now [08:52] /sys/class/power_supply/*/charge_full [08:52] etc [08:52] so with some maths work, can figure out Watt usage, percentage full, and time till power is depleted. [08:52] also the reverse, time till battery is fully charged too [09:43] Hello All [09:47] Hi! [09:54] thatGuyInTheSuit welcome === znxtch is now known as Guest65523 === znxtch_ is now known as znxtch [14:12] Is it possible to Jailbreak my IPhone using Wine and then sync my music using Ubuntu? [14:13] hi znxtch. Awesome question, I guess you should wait for someone with an iphone (: [14:15] i meant to say ipod touch [14:15] im dumb [14:21] how do i edit fstab, it won't allow me to save it when i use notepad [14:32] Zaturn: you need to invoke the editor with gksudo from the command line e.g. gksudo gedit /etc/fstab but be very careful when editing it, you nac break your system [14:33] nac = can [14:33] phillw: is this a good line to add to the fstab file when i try to force the mounting of a disk called "693GB"? * /dev/sde1 /media/693GB ntfs-3g force 0 0 * ? Please note the spaces [14:33] lol nac [14:34] i've never used the force option, i generally let the disk utility application get on with it [14:36] phillw: me too, but sometiemes im .... forced to :) [14:37] Zaturn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5977458&postcount=5 warns to NOT use force [14:38] phillw: hmmm yeah but they run fine in windows ... [14:39] well, one user uses force, as they sometimes need it, just be aware of warning & decide which way to go. [14:39] thanks! [14:39] chow! [15:18] anyone around to help with a fun printer screwup? [15:18] printers yay! === compiledkernel is now known as Guest67830 [16:45] hey guys, how can i make the windows burn when i close them? [16:49] i have no 'burn' effect; the other effects are there, they work perfectly and look amazing and all that [16:49] but the 'burn' effect is missing [16:50] nevermind, i found it [16:50] sorry [16:51] quit [16:57] https://launchpad.net/~pmcenery/+archive/ppa [16:57] Okay I installed this into my sources list [16:57] my question [16:57] . . . [16:57] the packages at the bottom of the page [16:57] so i just have to go through and sudo apt-get install all of them [17:05] znxtch: if they depend on one another, they will be marked for installation anyway. if they don't, then you don't necessarily have to install all of them [17:10] Is there a way to delete all the B.S. I've dumped into my Ubuntu setup and ust be back at ground zero. . .without reinstaling Ubuntu completely? [17:13] the best way i know of is to use the Software Center, go to Installed Software, and then remove what you no longer need [17:13] on that note, i have to get to class. sorry i can't stay and help, but i'm sure someone else can =) [17:13] cya [17:22] ddecator: Hey, welcome to BT :) [17:22] I wanted to say that in a mail, but I guess I didn't get time [17:43] ubuntu-beginners-dev [17:43] erm [17:57] BT? BitTorrent? [17:58] beginners team === Guest67830 is now known as compiledkernel [18:03] i like BitTorrent better [18:03] are DMPS calls logged in Xorg.log? [18:03] i can;t get to my logs now but my one monitor keeps shutting off and i'm wondering if its due to dpms [18:26] jMyles_: you ok? [18:52] Heya [19:33] compiledkernel [19:33] we meet again [19:33] nigelbabu: thanks =) [19:36] znxtch: indeed. [19:37] i feel like you two are arch nemeses or something... [19:39] no i just dont know anyone ese [19:39] else [19:39] and i was feeling attention deprived... [19:39] childhood thing. . . [19:39] well you'll get to know a lot of us [19:39] Hey I got another AWESOME new guy question. [19:40] I think you're going to like it. [19:40] lets hear it [19:40] Is there a way. . . [19:40] to remove all this B.S. I've been installing trying to experiment with software and return ubuntu to a somewhat default state? without reinstalling [19:41] didn't like the software center idea? [19:41] when I say B.S. [19:41] i mean more like the little packages and suppoting packages that have piled up\ [19:41] I feel like there are still things floating around [19:41] sudo apt-get auto-remove [19:41] or is it just autoremove... [19:42] followed by package name? [19:42] sudo apt-get autoremove [19:42] that will offer to remove all packages you no longer need [19:42] How does it determine what I need? [19:42] that were previously installed automatically with other packages [19:43] Reading package lists... Done [19:43] Building dependency tree [19:43] Reading state information... Done [19:43] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. [19:43] maybe i cleaned up okay the first time then huh? [19:43] looks that way =) [19:43] f yeah! [19:44] Now for a real zinger [19:45] I'm looking for educated personal opinions here [19:45] audioplayers [19:45] amarok would be awesome but no eq [19:45] depends on what you want to do with it [19:45] any other reccomendations for sound quality [19:46] hello everybody [19:46] i like songbird because of the add-ons, but the latest version isn't available from the PPA yet... [19:46] shahan: hey [19:47] opinions? i have opinions [19:47] ddecator: problem [19:47] installing .taz.bz2 files [19:47] shahan: and that is? [19:47] I dont know how to do it [19:47] tar.bz2 files generally contain the source of a program. what are you trying to install exactly? [19:47] dont know how to install thunderbird-3.0.4.tar.bz2 [19:48] ah, right [19:48] ddecator: thunderbird-3.0.4.tar.bz2 [19:48] the ubuntu mozilla team needs to get the thunderbird stable PPA up =p [19:48] ddecator: how to get this? [19:48] shahan: extract that, then look for a 'thunderbird' file inside the folder [19:48] shahan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion [19:49] yah, the mozilla daily ppa has it, but that will also upgrade firefox and everything, if you don't mind that... [19:49] ddecator: are you using karmic? [19:49] znxtch: lucid [19:50] songbird will work on karmic? [19:50] works on karmic, broken on lucid atm...at least in the PPA, i got it working, but it needs to be merged in after lucid is released [19:51] ddecator: what is PPA? [19:51] shahan: Personal Package Archive. it's a way for people to release software that isn't in the official repos for various reasons [19:51] ddecator: hmm [19:52] ddecator: I am installing the older version from UBUNTU SOFTWARE CENTER [19:52] shahan: sounds good. if you decide to upgrade to lucid after the release, then you will get the 3.0.x version [19:53] they may backport it to karmic as well, idk what the plan is right now... [19:53] ddecator: because so far I have realised that the ubuntu corporation doesnt like to install latest version from mozilla website [19:53] ddecator: they only support the 2.0..... version [19:53] shahan: it works fine if you use the Ubuntu Mozilla Team's daily PPA, but like i said you'll get the daily version of Thunderbird and Firefox, which aren't quite as stable [19:53] er, potentially not as stable at least [19:53] is there reasons why you wouldnt update to lucid whenits released? [19:54] znxtch: large update, some people might not think it's worth it, don't like certain changes... [19:54] hmm [19:55] however... [19:55] I want to make a customized distro ... [19:55] ddecator: do u have any idea? [19:56] shahan: about what exactly? [19:57] dd [19:57] mind lending a hand with my songbird install? [19:57] ddecator: that is .... all the software installed in my PC ... I will make a distro.... If any one install this distro, he will get all the software installed on my pc same...that is like clone [19:57] znxtch: how are you trying to install it? [19:58] shahan: depends on how you setup the distro... [19:58] he will get all the codec installed, all the software like skype, chrome, teamviewer, VLC, Multiget.... everything which I have installed on my PC [19:58] disregard [19:58] figured it out [19:58] was missing a sudo in front of the tar command [19:58] ddecator: like a cloned distro [19:59] shahan: unfortunately i don't really know much about how that would work [19:59] znxtch: you could use the daily PPA, it still works on karmic [20:00] got it running [20:00] thanks though [20:00] no problem [20:04] ddecator: installed [20:04] shahan: good deal =) [20:04] using gmail on it [20:04] I like thunderbird [20:04] its very easy to use gmail in thunderbird [20:04] ddecator: where r u from? [20:05] nice. i use thunderbird for backing up my emails and i use prism to run gmail [20:05] shahan: i'm in chicago [20:05] hmm [20:05] UK? [20:07] me? [20:07] ddecator: yes [20:08] chicago is in the US [20:08] ddecator: where is chicago? [20:08] in illinois (United States Midwest) [20:08] ddecator: hmm [20:10] I want a good graphical website designning software in ubuntu [20:11] shahan: you mean something to build HTML with, or otherwise? [20:11] are DPMS calls logged in Xorg.log? I can't get to my logs right now but my one monitor keeps shutting off and i'm wondering (hoping!) if its due to DPMS [20:11] compiledkernel: yes exactly... like Dreamweaver in Windows [20:11] shahan: bluefish I think is the known accepted [20:12] however [20:12] compiledkernel: I dont like bluefish [20:12] Screem.org aka Screem html/xml editor [20:12] is also acceptable [20:12] compiledkernel: very poor [20:12] shahan: I would disaggree [20:12] its not pretty [20:12] but its effective [20:12] compiledkernel: why? [20:13] you wish to code html, correct shanan? [20:13] heh, shahan ^ [20:13] compiledkernel: no [20:13] ddecator: what? [20:14] you want an ide then [20:14] Kdevelop, Anjuta [20:14] shahan: your name wasn't spelled right in that message, so i wanted to make sure you got a ping still [20:14] if I have to use a gui (I normally code with vim) [20:14] I use Geany [20:14] compiledkernel: I want to design the web very easily. creating table, colour...everything with grphical interface [20:14] cut/copy/paste ide's [20:14] blah [20:14] weak [20:14] but [20:14] I suppose if you have to do it [20:15] ddecator: :) [20:15] Kdevelop will probably do it [20:15] compiledkernel: give me a clear idea about it.. please [20:15] if your going to do java, refer to Eclipse [20:15] I will do HTML and PHP only [20:15] shahan: http://jeez.eu/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/kdevelop_screen.png [20:16] thats screenie of kdevelop [20:16] compiledkernel: need to make good table, giving colour...etc [20:16] that can be done with a text editor shahan [20:16] your only hurting yourself by depending on cut/copy/paste ide's [20:17] for development [20:17] compiledkernel: yes...but I want to modify a lot of pages I have created with dreamweaver [20:18] I suppose quanta could be used [20:18] ddecator: how do I chge my watched folder i songbird? [20:19] znxtch: Tools > Options > Media Importer > Watch Folders [20:19] compiledkernel: is there no software like this? [20:20] compiledkernel: ok [20:20] compiledkernel: quanta...how Megabyte? [20:21] shahan: its not large, quanta isnt. [20:21] I believe wine supports dreamweaver [20:21] if thats really a consideration. [20:21] either way , I really think your doing more harm than good for yourself development wise by depending on an IDE to perform the actions. [20:22] compiledkernel: tnx for giving time [20:22] aye [20:22] compiledkernel: let me check the quanta [20:22] compiledkernel: going to sleep [20:22] compiledkernel: its 1 22 AM there [20:23] have to get up early in the morning for Morning Prayer (NAMAZ) [20:25] Songbird is flippin' suhweet! [20:25] thanks for turning me on to it dd [20:25] 1.8.0~a will be available after the lucid release via the PPA [20:25] znxtch: there are add-ons for MMKey support and other things, such as lyricmaster (a personal favorite) [20:26] yeah lyrics master rocks! [20:26] i still need to patch 1.8.0 so it has MMKey support be default..not sure how i'll do that yet [20:26] mmkey? [20:27] Multimedia Keys, such as the play, pause, etc. buttons at the top of some laptops [20:28] i do have those ;) [20:28] cd ripping doesn't work yet either, that's also on the to-do list [20:29] ipod support? [20:29] anyway, i have to go take a midterm, i'll be back in a couple of hours [20:29] znxtch: it's an add-on, not sure how well it works. i know they're working on improving it, but it might not work at all on linux (idk if it can communicate with USBs yet) [20:30] chk [20:31] anyone know how to get a wireless brother scanner to work on 10.04 [20:31] ZeRoDeAtH50435: model number please. [20:32] ZeRoDeAtH50435: probably not. Accoring to sane site, most of , if not all of their scanners are unsupported. [20:32] MFC-255CW [20:32] http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-BROTHER [20:33] it was really easy to get the printer to work once I set my windows computer as the host It auto-detected on here and that was it [20:34] scanners are a different story entirely ZeRoDeAtH50435 [20:34] yeah I was afraid of that [20:34] sane support is sparse, most of the popular units work, but not near as much as printers that are supported. [20:35] right [20:35] sorry to disappoint ZeRoDeAtH50435 [20:35] no its ok just have to fax it [20:35] lol [20:38] ? === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [20:57] can someont give me a command line solution for detecting when my wireless card disconnects, then reconnect it? iwconfig still showed the essis but it wasn't associated [21:27] it was easy for me to get my scanner to work on the box it was plugged into; over the network not so much [22:15] ZeRoDeAtH50435: simple scan doesn't work? [22:15] yeah [22:16] evenin all [22:16] hey Bodsda [22:16] whoa, i got an email from you earlier... [22:16] hey ddecator - hows things? [22:17] Bodsda: pretty good, just took a midterm exam so now it's officially the weekend for me. how are you? [22:17] ddecator: heh, not too bad ta, just had my corporate induction today - Explaining IT infrastructure modifications and virtualization projects to comeplete technophobes [22:18] i dread teaching how email works to technophobes.. [22:18] email... thats magic, these guys dont understand what a browser is [22:19] i feel sorry for you [22:19] * Bodsda thinks IT basics should be mandatory to anyone owning a phone line [22:19] people would go phoneless before learning IT basics [22:19] lol, probably - as long as they could send letters to faceboo [22:19] facebook* [22:20] and text [22:20] ddecator: you coming to the -dev meeting tonight? [22:20] Bodsda: what will it be about? [22:21] ddecator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Meeting [22:21] Bodsda: yah sure, i'll be there (unless something comes up) [22:22] cool [22:22] i'm guessing it will be in -dev? [22:22] yeah [22:23] alright, i'm in there [22:32] anyone handy to help me with a printer issue? [22:32] i have an hp-check log here: http://pastebin.com/CQEDWx8p [22:33] this may sound stupid, but have you unplugged the usb and replugged it into your computer? that tends to work for me most of the time [22:43] yeah [22:43] i have [22:44] i also unplugged it from the wall and plugged it back in, in conjunction with unplugging/replugging the usb [22:45] one thing you can try is unplugging the usb, going to System > Administration > Printing, deleting the printer in there, then reconnect the usb so it resets the connects (assuming you haven't set settings on there you don't want to lose) [22:45] believe me, i did that too [22:45] emgomez: unfortunately I dont have an answer for you im afraid - try googling the error error: Unable to communicate with device (code=12) - you may get a better response from #ubuntu as not many people seem to be at their computers here ta the moment im afraid [22:47] * phillw doesn't have an HP printer to test it with, sorry [22:47] hm, i've never had that much issue with my HP printer =\ [22:48] the only other suggestion i have is double checking that hplip is installed and possibly reinstalling it.. [22:48] ddecator: HP printers do seem to work well with linux, these all in one systems seem to be problems though. [22:49] phillw: i have a printer/scanner/copier [22:49] emgomez: if you post up your make & model of printer, I'll gladly go looking for you. [22:49] it's not an all-in-one, but it's a laserjet P1006, which apparently a lot of people had trouble with out of the box [22:49] oh, i have that printer at home.. [22:49] i never had trouble... [22:50] it originally did this thing where the system claimed it printed and recognized the printer and everything, but nothing printed [22:50] what version of ubuntu? [22:50] and i got that fixed using the foomatic drivers [22:50] last fall's, 9.10 [22:50] hplip worked fine for me on 9.10. hm =\ [22:50] but then yesterday, it ran out of paper while in the middle of a printer job [22:51] which apparently ruined it [22:51] or else it was a solar flare, i suppose [22:51] i did have to reinstall hplip once, so that might help [22:51] yeah, it's a weird issue, not everyone with a 1006 had trouble apparently, just a particular few people [22:51] hmm [22:52] emgomez: this thread is marked [solved], which is always a good pointer ;-) http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/forum/read.php?43,2400,2400 [22:52] or they bought a new printer and called it a solution, who knows ;) [22:52] i've used nothing but hp printers with my system though, and i've never run into issues [22:53] at least not since 9.04 [22:54] ddecator: well there's also this interesting(?) one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1442100 [22:55] that's a weird issue... [22:57] ddecator: as i've been flitting between operating systems, I've not actually sat down and got either of the HP laser printers working on my laptop, it's on my 'To Do' list when 10.04 properly settles. [22:57] well, i removed and reinstaled hplip [22:58] now i have a new error [22:58] our laserjet works on 10.04 for me, haha [22:58] Unable to write 8192 bytes to printer! [22:58] emgomez: fun, haha. what's the new one? [22:58] huh.. [22:58] the exclamation point is pretty endearing [22:58] it's like even the computer is freaked out about it not working like it should [22:58] when do you get that error? [22:59] it's sitting there in the properties pane if i open up System-Admin-Printing [22:59] the properties of the particular printer, i mean to say [22:59] under "Printer State" [23:00] what if you delete the printer then reconnect it so it recollects the information? [23:00] if i try to printer, the same 8192 bytes message shows--- WHAT [23:00] WHAT [23:00] now it's printing [23:00] WHAT THE HECK [23:00] hm [23:00] okay [23:00] only the first page [23:00] printing is progress =p [23:01] okay, so i just tried to print a test page [23:01] from the printer dialog [23:01] and it got sent as if it was working and the little printer queue popped up [23:01]