[01:08] I'm back now. [01:13] and i am off to bed again [01:13] night [01:14] in a bit.... [01:16] godbyk: btw let me know when you want all of the screenshots ready for the release I will merge the translated ones into lp:ubuntu-manual-screenshots [01:19] ubuntujenkins: cool. [01:20] ubuntujenkins: Are the up-to-date, US English screenshots already in the the lucid-e1 branch? [01:20] erm i think there is one new one that i got today [01:21] ooo and i need to do one other. I will do it now brb [01:22] k === doctormo__ is now known as doctormo [01:37] nice a bzr error [01:37] /home/luke-jennings/Projects/lucid-e1/screenshots/en/02-quickshot-home.png [01:37] Text conflict in po/pt.po [01:37] Conflict adding file po/pt.po.BASE. Moved existing file to po/pt.po.BASE.moved. [01:37] Conflict adding file po/pt.po.OTHER. Moved existing file to po/pt.po.OTHER.moved. [01:37] Conflict adding file po/pt.po.THIS. Moved existing file to po/pt.po.THIS.moved. [01:37] 4 conflicts encountered. [01:37] ingore the image reference [01:39] ubuntujenkins: fun. run 'bzr resolve po' and then 'bzr revert po' and you should be fine. [01:39] (unless you're intentionally editing the pt.po file) [01:40] no I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. don't want to upset the translatore :P [01:40] ubuntujenkins: ha! I don't blame you. [01:41] godbyk: did you get any blue print e0mails on the quickshot mailing list? I did not but then i did the blue prints [01:42] ubuntujenkins: I don't recall seeing any, but I may not be subscribed to them. [01:42] I'll look in just a sec.. [01:49] the English screenshots in lp:ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1 are good to go [01:50] ubuntujenkins: awesome -- thanks! [01:51] I found the mailing list archive and there are no blue prints sent to the list. not sure why [01:53] found it you have to assign it to every blue print manually [01:54] hmm.. I wonder if you can assign it to receive all blueprint emails or something. [01:54] how does the ubuntu-manual project do it? [01:58] are it looks like they set the drafter to the team [02:00] right how do i unsubscribe the mailing list from blue prints.... I can only change my settings [02:12] heh.. no idea. [02:12] lemme see if I can find anything useful [02:12] I can subscribe the team to the Bugs. [02:13] #launchpad has no suggestions/reply's . I can subscribe and remove from bugs but can't remove them from blue prints [02:14] I'm apparently a team admin, too. [02:14] You'd think I'd be allowed to do that sort of thing. === wolter is now known as esteban [02:14] (and maybe I am.. if only I could figure out where) [02:14] yep you, dutchie, ben and i are admins === esteban is now known as wolter [02:15] s/maybe I am/maybe I can/ [02:18] I think finding where is half of the problem [03:27] night [04:45] ello [05:16] * humphreybc just gave dutchie some work [05:24] humphreybc: what work did you dump on dutchie now? [05:25] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+spec/gummi-with-ump [05:25] godbyk, most of the blueprints for lucid-e2 and maverick should be up now. Have a look, see if you can spot anything I've missed. I'm slowly going through and adding specific work items for each one [05:25] this cycle is going to be a lot more organized :) [05:25] nice [05:25] I'll take a look [05:25] (presuming everyone does what they're supposed to!) [05:26] organization is usually a good thing. [05:26] and if someone doesn't do what they're supposed to, then we should be able to figure it out sooner this time. :) [05:26] ya [05:27] humphreybc: do you know how we can set it up so that the quickshot blueprints get emailed to the quickshot-devs mailing list? [05:27] so go through, make sure everything we want to achieve for lucid-e2 and maverick has stuff listed there [05:27] Luke asked me about that [05:27] ubuntujenkins and I were trying to figure it out earlier and failed. [05:27] and I have no idea [05:27] ask in #launchpad [05:27] I think he did already and didn't get a reply. [05:27] oh [05:27] i'll ask tonight then [05:27] I'll leave it to him for now. [05:27] lol ok [05:28] so yeah, check to make sure everything's there [05:28] there will be stuff we've talked about but i've forgotten [05:28] did you go through the list on the pad? [05:28] that might be a good starting point. [05:28] the to do list? [05:29] yeah. [05:29] the huge todo list and the pad that you and I whipped up with notes for maverick and whatnot a while back. [05:29] nope, but i'll have a look later [05:29] i had a look at the maverick one [05:29] (those pad links should be in the email you sent me last week) [05:30] but the to do list might be outdated [05:30] a lot of it was stuff we had to do for this release, before we had a clue what our goals were for maverick [05:30] here's my spec workload :P [05:30] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/~humphreybc/+specworkload [05:31] * humphreybc feels like he should be paid for this shit :P [05:32] humphreybc: can you run through the bugs and make sure they're all assigned to appropriate milestones/releases again? I think we've had a few new bugs recently. [05:32] yeah, i'll have to do that later tonight [05:32] if nisshh comes in, get him to do it (i've already told him about it and he's looking for stuff to do) [05:32] and has someone fixed up the bugs so that any bugs pre-RC have been retargeted? [05:32] cool [05:32] i have to head into uni and do a lab, then i've got to get groceries and cook dinner [05:33] I've got to run through like 6 python labs this weekend and submit them before I go to Belgium [05:33] * humphreybc must remember he's also a full time uni student [05:33] * humphreybc although sometimes forgets it [05:33] I just got back from my grocery shopping. :) [05:33] heh [05:33] also, take a look at ump-persona, i've started creating "work items" on the whiteboard [05:33] I'm going to work on finishing all my edits to the lucid-1e-en branch so it's ready for print. [05:33] should further break it down for people [05:34] I want to get it done in time to have all of you guys give it a glance and make sure I didn't do anything particularly stupid and glaringly obvious. [05:34] basically, what most Canonical projects do is set up work items, as they're completed the assignee goes into the whiteboard and marks them as done [05:34] okay [05:34] also, I need the stuff up on lulu.com by the 26th so I can buy a couple of copies and get them shipped to doctormo who's going to bring them to UDS for me [05:34] aha. so they don't create a bug for each work assignment and link it to the blueprint? they just edit the summary of the blueprint? [05:35] they do both, if it's a bug, then they do that, if it's a feature that needs to be done, then they edit the whiteboard [05:35] humphreybc: I can probably have my part done. We need to figure out what to put on the back cover of the book, though. [05:35] we don't use the whiteboard enough [05:35] okay, get in touch with thorwil asap [05:35] Get that info to thorwil so he can crank out a cover for us. [05:35] he might be in later today [05:36] he needs to know measurements [05:36] I'll get him the info I have re: covers when I see him. But we need to figure out what goes on the back. [05:36] right [05:36] He asked about it a couple days ago and I forgot. [05:36] Measurements I can do. [05:36] i'll think about it while i'm at the supermarket [05:36] fair enough [05:36] start an etherpad, jot down some ideas [05:36] stuff that you've seen on other back covers for OS manuals [05:37] 'kay. [05:37] if you can, find some images on google and link to them [05:37] I'll do that in a bit. [05:37] I'm going to do some more editing first. [05:37] no rush, i'll be back in about 4 hours [05:37] and I'll probably update the translated builds, too. [05:38] great [05:38] translators are getting antsy to see their work in progress. [05:38] i would too if i were a translator :P [05:38] no doubt. [05:38] chow! [05:38] see ya [08:20] Hey, thorwil. I've sicced humphreybc on working on the content for the back cover. [08:20] thorwil: In the meantime, I have the dimensions for the wrap-around cover in case you want to get started: [08:20] Spine width: 27.89 Postscript points wide (0.387") [08:20] Cover size: 1269.89 x 810 Postscript points (17.637" x 11.250") [08:20] Spine begins: 621 Postscript points from the left (8.625") [08:21] godbyk: "sicced"? never saw that term before [08:22] thorwil: It's usually used to as "Sic 'em, boy!" to urge a dog to attack someone. [08:22] heh [08:23] godbyk: should the cover parts be in one block, back-spine-front? or separate files? [08:23] It should be a single PDF. [08:24] Also, there's a bit of variance/fluctuation that occurs during the printing process, [08:24] so don't count on the spine being positioned more precisely than, say, 2-3 mm. [08:26] The cover size is slightly larger than the trim size (to allow for bleeds). [08:26] godbyk: they want that file trimmed to final dimensions, not with a larger media box (or whatever the right pdf term was)? [08:27] i mean, do they say anything about printing-to-the-edge? [08:28] thorwil: Let me look. [08:28] Here's a bit of info to keep in mind (tl;dr: keep it simple): https://support.lulu.com/View.jsp?procId=672ff3fbe3e4b5399b74a54d59fecbf3&from=Browse_e32f82affe8d4b5f82825399a6f5fabd [08:28] Let me look into the printing-to-edge (bleed) specs. [08:29] Oh, and the cover will be printed in color (even though the interior is black and white). [08:30] don't worry, i don't use transparency or even just layered stuff [08:31] thorwil: Okay, the bleed area is the outer 0.125" of the cover. [08:31] So anything in that outer 1/8-inch area will be trimmed. [08:33] godbyk: that's 0.125" on each of left, right, top, bottom margin? [08:33] thorwil: Yes. So 0.125" on the left will be removed, 0.125" on the right will be removed, same for top and bottom. [08:34] godbyk: ok, thanks [08:36] thorwil: don't include any crop marks or the like. [08:37] sheesh, that's obvious [08:37] ;) [08:37] thorwil: and make sure that all the important text and graphics are at least 0.25" inside the trimmed page (to allow for some variance in the trimming process) [08:37] thorwil: heh.. I know.. it's apparently non-obvious to a lot of lulu users, though. [08:37] tons of people appear to have problems keeping up with this sort of thing. [08:38] (I think they must have no idea how books are made.) [08:38] sure. not everyone has 3 years professional education in the DTP area [08:39] The cover width (and spine width) calculations are made assuming a 172-page book. When I've finished tweaking some things, the page count may be slightly different, so the final dimensions may vary slightly -- but it'll only be by a few points. [08:40] thorwil: You have no idea how nice it is for me to be able to have someone as clueful as you working on this thing. :-) [08:41] godbyk: same :) [08:44] with slightly less than 10 mm of spine and up to 3.175 offset, i wonder if i should keep the title off the spine [08:47] Give me a moment and I'll take some pictures of the other book I published through lulu [08:50] hey [08:51] godbyk, thorwil, you guys talked about the back page yet? godbyk, have you got that pad? [08:51] hi humphreybc! yes [08:51] humphreybc: I haven't started the pad yet. [08:51] okay, fill me in [08:51] humphreybc: I just gave thorwil the preliminary cover dimensions. [08:51] okay [08:51] let' [08:52] let's figure out what to put on the back [08:52] http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/CCWkwXmebw [08:56] godbyk, i've added some stuff [08:57] 'kay, one sec. [08:57] thorwil, are you happy designing a back cover? or do you want me to do it? (in photoshop :P ) [08:57] and how are we going to translate any text on the back cover? [08:57] slash are we going to [08:57] slash let's just not have that much text [08:58] humphreybc: i'll get to it soon [08:59] cool :) [08:59] thorwil, what's your day job? [08:59] Here are some (horrible, horrible) photos of the other book I published through lulu: http://kevin.godby.org/private/junk/shu/ [08:59] Taken with my cell phone in the dark. [08:59] humphreybc: really too bad i won't be at UDS. i could chain you to a chair and give you an intensive inkscape course! [09:00] * godbyk would pay to see that! [09:00] hahaha! that would be appreciated. You'll have to come to UDS-N [09:00] * humphreybc envisions something like me going NO NO NO OOOOOOOOOOO! [09:00] godbyk, "I wear socks three days a week." ??? [09:01] so what do you think we do, pick some quotes from the book? [09:01] make up some reviews? :P [09:01] If you nab the PDF of the book from http://kevin.godby.org/ShinyHappyUsersWithCover.pdf, and look at the last page, it'll show you what we put on the back cover. [09:01] We just pulled quotes from the essays in the book and slapped 'em on the back cover. [09:01] ah ok [09:02] * thorwil tries to keep REM out of his head [09:02] Losing My Religion? [09:02] Yeah, I think they selected a quote from a fake survey question I wrote or something. [09:02] thorwil, what's your day job? [09:02] also, thorwil, you should put your photo up on your Launchpad thing [09:03] Some of us are trying to maintain our secret identities, y'know.. [09:03] :) [09:03] lol [09:03] is that why thorwil won't tell me what his day job is [09:03] "Secret Agent" [09:03] humphreybc: theoretically i'm a freelance designer. practically i do way too much what i like instead of what i should [09:03] (maybe he's in the Gestapo :O ) [09:03] hahaha [09:03] fair enough then :) [09:06] thorwil: there are 246 pages in those books, so the spine is a titch wider that ours will be. [09:07] * humphreybc hates the gimp with a passion [09:08] WHY CAN I NOT DO A SIMPLE THING LIKE SELECT SOME TEXT TO EDIT ON A TEXT LAYER [09:09] well, that's an upcoming feature, i think [09:10] oh well that's okay then [09:10] .. [09:10] and yes, gimp is a bit primitive compared to PS [09:10] it's powerful, but the user interface sucks balls [09:10] I was just flipping through those books. It's been quite a while. I'd forgotten how gorgeous Palatino looks in print. [09:10] now, if we could turn our attention to the etherpad [09:11] i've added the text that should go on the back cover [09:11] okay, okay [09:11] it's straight from the website, should be already translated [09:11] then all we need is for dear thorwil to make it look pretty, consistent with the front cover and chuck in some nice graphics [09:11] humphreybc: Dude, apostrophe, c'mon. (You know what I'm talking about!) :-) [09:12] also, i noticed in the latest build, (RC), the little wave circle of friends graphic down the bottom of the front page seems to be almost invisible [09:12] is that just me, or have we made a decision somewhere along the line to turn the opacity WAY down? [09:12] The RC may or may not have been using the proper title page. [09:13] But the CoF band is supposed to be fairly subtle. [09:13] right [09:14] it's a bit too subtle right now [09:14] on the version i have, at least [09:14] humphreybc: it'd be more awesome if you could collect some choice quotes from big names in the Ubuntu community praising our book. [09:15] heh [09:15] I can do that [09:16] Mark just okayed us using the new Ubuntu logo on the back cover [09:16] godbyk, I don't know if people will want to praise it until they've read it [09:16] maybe for second edition? [09:16] humphreybc: they can read the RC.. it'll be the same text. [09:16] okay [09:17] alright i'll pick some people and email them [09:17] (I'm primarily just adjusting the alignment of the margin notes and fixing the occasional typographic error that I happen to notice.) [09:17] direct download link for the RC? [09:17] nab it from launchpad or test.ubuntu-manual.org [09:18] front page. green download buttons. can't miss 'em. [09:18] have they made any progress on the completion of the new Ubuntu typeface? [09:19] is there a proper name for the small quotes of praise that go on books? [09:19] recommendations? [09:20] I've chosen the following people to have a preview and give us a "recommendation" quote thing: Mark Shuttleworth, Jono Bacon, Elizabeth Krumbach, Matthew Paul Thomas, Jorge Castro and Alan Pope. [09:20] They're called 'review quotes'. [09:21] The summary/description text is called a 'blurb'. [09:21] humphreybc: there will be no new ubuntu logo on the back. unless they manage to release a final SVG very soon. even then i might opt to not put it there [09:21] thorwil: i'd really, really, really like a new ubuntu logo on the back. [09:21] I can find an SVG of it for you [09:22] humphreybc: no, you can't. because there is no final official one [09:24] humphreybc: Also, if you're wanting to include the 'ubuntu' logogram, I think their font may clash with ours. (We'd use theirs, but, well, they don't have one yet.) [09:24] I want the new ubuntu logo on the back cover, in a corner [09:25] humphreybc: now you sound like an 8 year old [09:25] :) [09:25] * godbyk imagines humphreybc stomping his feet impetuously. [09:26] this here [09:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=blackeubuntulogo.png [09:26] well, whatever the final one of that looks like [09:26] i'm enquiring about it now [09:26] have they even settled on a particular orange yet? [09:27] I'm sure they have [09:27] the final release is only a few days away [09:27] LOL. I've lost all confidence that those alleged deadlines mean much. [09:30] godbyk, could we get this manual published and in stores? [09:30] humphreybc: I'll have to look into it, but my initial answer is 'sort of'. I know we can get it on amazon.com and some other online stores. [09:30] thorwil: "Ivanka and Iain say: It will be available by the time you wake up tomorrow, together with rules (layout etc) on how to use it" [09:31] The catch is that I think we have to purchase an ISBN for it if we want it to appear in the books-in-print catalogs. [09:31] how much are ISBNs? [09:31] humphreybc: ok. bob knows others and myself asked often enough [09:32] humphreybc: https://support.lulu.com/View.jsp?procId=b5fe6b18b566b8e230c0a7a221b701aa [09:34] humphreybc: Also, keep in mind that if you want to go that route, you'll need a new ISBN for each edition we publish. (lucid-1e, lucid-2e, and maverick would each require separate ISBNs.) [09:34] godbyk, okay, what do you think about having the second edition or maverick in stores? [09:35] how much is an ISBN? that page just tells me how to get one, doesn't really give hard pricing [09:37] thorwil: the SVG will be up on the artwork page of the wiki by the end of today (british time) [09:37] humphreybc: https://support.lulu.com/View.jsp?id=2218eeddc6a4a0cb-7d829287-1266497a20e--7c60&fromProcRevs=273e6d745460e593f323693ed07c7501 [09:37] keep an eye on it, nab it as soon as it appears and incorporate it into your design :) [09:37] thanks [09:39] hilarious to see a parallel discussion about the logo in ubuntu-artwork, where Iain provides less info [09:40] godbyk, seems to be mainly online stuff still. The "ExtendedReach" thing looks good [09:40] thorwil: is that going on right now? lol [09:40] godbyk (mainly coz it's free) [09:41] humphreybc gets VIP treatment, apparently [09:41] :) [09:41] A block of 10 ISBNs cost $245.00, 100 ISBNs cost $930, and 1000 ISBNs cost $1570. A single ISBN costs $125. [09:41] ouch [09:42] *sad face* [09:42] they are made of precious fairy dust? [09:42] Can we convince some publisher to cover those costs for us if we give them the profits off the mark-up? [09:56] thorwil: if you run into any questions regarding the cover stuff, let me know and I'll try to dig up answers for you. [09:57] ok [10:21] moring all how goes thengs? [10:21] *things [10:22] sup Luke [10:22] not bad! [10:22] doing some work, killing time till Joey comes online so we can record the OMG! Ubuntu! podcast [10:23] let me know when it is out [10:24] next tuesday :) [10:25] do we have a feed yet? I want to get it as soon as possible :) Don't spend the whole show going ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual ubuntu manual :P [10:27] hahaha, no i won't, when i'm working for OMG! i'm working for OMG! [10:27] i'm not working for the UMP team :P [10:28] we'll be posting it on the blog, check twitter and our facebook page. We haven't set up a feed yet but that'll happen this weekend probably [10:28] it's called Ubuntuesday so it'll be released on tuesday [10:28] will it be weekly? [10:29] * ubuntujenkins likes podcast [10:30] yep [10:46] what time is the manual released again? I thought it was midnight utc but I don't think the website impiles that [10:47] is it better for your eyes to have your monitor brightness turned down, or up? [10:48] depends on the ambient lighting [10:48] tell me more, popey [10:49] * humphreybc doesn't want to screw up his eyes [10:49] heh [10:51] so i'm in a room during the day with tonnes of sunlight coming in, and at night (like now) i have a lamp near my desk shining onto my desk, and a light in the room on the roof turned on [10:52] most of the time, my two monitors (laptop and external) are on full brightness. is it better to have my monitors turned down? the drapes closed during the day? the room lights off at night? [10:52] ubuntujenkins, hi [10:52] hello hemanth [10:53] ubuntujenkins, didn't get any resource yestd [10:54] sorry what do you mean by resource? [10:54] humphreybc: you generally want to make sure there's no glare on the monitors (from the lamp or direct sunlight). otherwise, the brightness should be reduced when there's less ambient light in the room. [10:54] right, so less contrast? [10:54] humphreybc: The short answer is, do whatever feels most comfortable to you. [10:54] ubuntujenkins, those session save and logoff commands issue's generic solution [10:55] hemanth: thats fine if we can work out the best way of detecting which desktop enviroment is in use. We can write a small file that handles it all, returning the right value to the "logout" button [10:56] ubuntujenkins, ok :) like a property file ? [10:57] more like if desktop enviroment is .... return and test for each envoriment. for the ones that we can't find the command we can then change the window text to ask them to log out themselves [10:58] got it [10:58] cool [10:59] turning down the brightness seems to help a bit [11:00] godbyk: is it safe to start working on the quickshot branch? [11:00] sorry just excited about it all [11:00] ubuntujenkins: aw, crap. give me just a couple minutes. [11:01] ubuntujenkins: what's the branch you want the site pointed at? [11:01] godbyk: lp:quickshot/release [11:02] the stuff in the 0.0.8 folder is the same as the stuff in lp:quickshot [11:02] 'kay. let me pull the branch. [11:04] hemanth: I am asigning you to solve bug 567714 if thats ok [11:04] Launchpad bug 567714 in quickshot "No response after login " [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/567714 [11:04] ubuntujenkins, sure :) [11:06] hemanth: I don't know which hemanth you are there is about 15 people with the same name [11:07] ubuntujenkins,i said assigned it to me, its hemanth-hm [11:07] ubuntujenkins: do you listen to Shot of Jaq or the ubuntu uk podcast? [11:07] godbyk is high contrast good for the eye, or bad? [11:08] hemanth: thanks i have asigned it to you now thanks [11:08] humphreybc: yes [11:08] ubuntujenkins: okay. ours will be nothing like that [11:08] ubuntujenkins, ok np [11:09] humphreybc: what difference does that make? What about linux out laws do you listen to that [11:09] ubuntu-manual will be having a podcast ? [11:09] nope [11:09] hemanth: nah, omgubuntu.co.uk [11:09] * hemanth excited :) [11:09] ubuntujenkins: check screenshots.ubuntu-manual.org real quick, but I think you should be set now. [11:09] oh! ok [11:09] * hemanth likes omgubuntu :) [11:10] godbyk: appears to work here thanks [11:10] if you want to get an idea about the podcast, the full title is: "The OMG! Ubuntu! Ubuntuesday podcast for people who don't like podcasts, brought to you by people who know nothing about podcasts." [11:10] :P [11:10] lol [11:10] ubuntujenkins: 'kay, you should be set then. I'll leave the release version as-is (i.e., I won't set a cron-job to auto-update it unless you tell me otherwise) [11:11] lol :) [11:11] godbyk, do you have SSH access to your dreamhost server? [11:11] humphreybc: where you planning to host the mp3/ogg files? [11:11] popey, absolutely no idea [11:11] whats the duration likely to be? [11:11] no idea [11:11] :) [11:12] humphreybc: yes, I do. [11:12] anywhere between 30 minutes to an hour i think [11:12] godbyk: can you do a cron job please in case we have to update the dictionary [11:12] humphreybc: do you know anything about the podcast :P [11:12] We have a rough outline of what we're going to talk about for this episode, and that's it :P [11:12] careful not to ramble [11:12] snoooozecast [11:13] ubuntujenkins: sure. [11:13] good advice [11:13] thanks godbyk [11:13] * ubuntujenkins starts another e-mail to the quickshot list [11:13] humphreybc, ubuntujenkins you are from omgubuntu? [11:13] hemanth, ubuntujenkins isn't but I am [11:14] humphreybc: re: contrast. you just want to avoid eye strain. eye strain occurs when you're changing focus from something bright (e.g., computer monitor or tv) to something dark (surrounding room), or if you're straining to see what's on the monitor/tv when there's glare on the screen. [11:14] humphreybc, uber cool :) [11:14] myself and Joey are the two people behind it at the moment, but it's mainly Joey [11:14] humphreybc: so, the tv/monitor brightness should be comparable to the ambient light in the room so you're pupils are going nuts. and avoid bright lights that cause glare on the screens. [11:15] humphreybc, kool, i too maintain a very trivial site called www.h3manth.com [11:15] cool design! [11:16] humphreybc, thanks its on drupal planing to revamp to some css design [11:17] humphreybc, i'm following omgubuntu from a long time, the way the theme got changed was uber kool, the content is really awesome [11:18] heh, thanks [11:18] as I said, it's mainly Joey [11:18] I do the weekly interviews and a few posts [11:19] ok :) his nick is d0od ? [11:19] yup [11:20] we've been meaning to make an "about the writers" page or something [11:20] it's on the list [11:20] complete with silly photos [11:20] be back in a sec, going to le dairy for snacks [11:20] okies :) [11:26] hemanth: i don't know if you saw it in the mailing list but i think we will be using Epytext http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/manual-epytext.html for all our code so that it is consistant [11:27] ubuntujenkins, i'm getting only bug reports and wishlist, did not get any other in the ml [11:28] hemanth: hmm i sent it out yesterday 15.37 [11:29] https://lists.launchpad.net/quickshotdevs/msg00146.html and https://lists.launchpad.net/quickshotdevs/msg00150.html were the two i sent yesterday, apart form all the blue prints [11:29] got it [Quickshotdevs] Standard docstring format [11:29] thats good. [11:29] and latex? [11:30] quickshot doesn't handle any latex at the moment, only the manual [11:30] that's our thing :P [11:31] godbyk: how easy is the latex to html conversion? [11:31] ubuntujenkins: good question. it varies based on the complexity of the document. [11:31]