=== KB1JWQ is now known as PFY [00:08] anyone here familiar with doing an install to a FC san? I need a bit of help [00:08] the installer seems to see the san when it scans the scsi system but it shows IO errors [00:08] any thoughts? [00:11] hello, i am missing the command add-apt-repository ... what package can this be found in? why don't I have it? [00:13] with uec where is the interface defined for dhcpd/dhclient? ive changed eucalyptus.conf to make hte privnet eth0 (rather than eth1), but after a restart its still using eth1 [00:24] stiv2k: it's in the 'python-software-properties' package [00:24] ty === PFY is now known as KB1JWQ [00:24] you can always search on packages.ubuntu.com for such things [00:26] anyone use their ubuntu server to play music via mpd locally? i'm having issues, and it's almost certainly because there's no sound drivers installed by default in ubuntu-server (i would assume) so what should i use? alsa? === libertiy|away is now known as libertiy [00:32] arrrghhh: Are you sure? My recent lucid server install which I very much never intentionally installed any audio software has a full ALSA stack loaded. [00:32] *on which* [00:33] arrrghhh: ALSA should be what to use, and the -server kernel should have audio drivers as you need that for e.g. asterix [00:33] Or screaming DC alarms, if you set it up that way :) [00:34] hrm. it's a lucid server install, i have no alsamixer. [00:34] plus mpd has an alsa input configured, but i can't get it to even start playing anything. [00:34] alsamixer is an application... [00:35] i just want mpd to play music. i also made an assumption about alsa. how can i tell if it's installed (properly) or not? this is a fresh install. [00:35] arrrghhh: Try just running alsamixer [00:36] hrm. it's a lucid server install, i have no alsamixer. [00:36] If it doesn't work, install alsa-utils. [00:36] the mpd user should be in the 'audio' group [00:36] Or install command-not-found, which will notify you of what you need to install when you don't have something. [00:36] yea, i can install that. not sure if i needed/wanted to go that way. [00:36] persia, thanks for the tip! [00:36] JanC, i'll check the permissions of my user... it's either me or root running mpd i believe. s/b me. [00:37] mpd runs as user 'mpd' by default [00:38] also, make sure it's configured correctly [00:38] JanC, even from the init script? [00:38] arrrghhh: the init script should run it as user mpd [00:38] thats' the default at least [00:39] ok. is there a command to see what user is in which groups? [00:39] wait... i think i have a solution der. [00:40] alright. there is an mpd user, and he is a member of the "audio" group. [00:41] !topic [00:41] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [00:41] so, no problem for mpd to access the audio devices [00:41] JanC, how can i tell if alsa is functioning? should i just install alsa-utils? [00:41] that's a good option [00:42] maybe the audio cahnnel is just muted ;) [00:42] k. my user is not a member of the audio group. [00:42] that's what i'm hoping :D [00:42] alsa-utils also intsalled alsa-base and linux-sound-base. [00:43] hi, forgot to install lamp stack during server install on karmic, ca i install it directly from install cd..this computer do not have internet access.. [00:44] "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory" - after i try to run "alsamixer"... [00:44] der. sudo, sorry. [00:47] hi, forgot to install lamp stack during server install on karmic, can i install it directly from install cd?..this computer do not have internet access.. === libertiy is now known as libertiy|away [00:47] jongbergs, why did you just resend that? [00:48] i don't see why you want a LAMP stack on a machine that has no internet. i don't think you can install it from the CD w/o a fresh install, but i'm not positive. === RoAkSoAx_ is now known as andreserl [00:57] * flyback uses the remote bmc he enabled on a problemsome server at work, to remotely power cycle and save the day :) === RoAkSoAx_ is now known as andreserl === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === libertiy|away is now known as libertiy [01:22] New bug: #544545 in rng-tools (universe) "rngd doesn't start automatically" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/544545 [01:24] This really isn't a new bug. [01:27] alrighty all. now alsamixer is installed, all the volumes were set at a minimum. i turned them all up, and mpd still does not play... i guess it could be the conf file for MPD? i'm pretty much using the defaults, i know it comes with an "example" output that uses alsa. [01:28] i restarted services and eventually the box to see if that would make a difference, unfortunately it did not. === libertiy is now known as libertiy|away === libertiy|away is now known as libertiy [01:35] hrm i also seem to have a problem with one of my init scripts. it's pretty stupid simple, i've never really designed a startup script... but when i run the startup script by hand, it works (sudo /etc/init.d/keepass start). if i restart the machine, it looks like keepass is running, but i can't hit the weppage. if i kill the PID and start the script by hand after a reboot, it works [01:36] webpage* === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening === libertiy is now known as libertiy|away === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:59] hey all, I've been working on a product that allows for real-time, brandable, communities to be created on the web and I was curious if you guys would like to take a look at what we have to offer. We've been working with a lot of communities on IRC and Freenode to get their feedback. [02:01] Gla: Ubuntu has a massive web presence. What extra features would you imagine would be considered beneficial? [02:01] would you mind if I sent you the link persia? [02:02] I'd rather you told me about it. [02:02] And in-channel, where it's logged and others can comment. [02:02] gla: ever heard about launchpad? [02:02] we add the ability for you to have real-time threaded conversations like that of Google Wave but much more simplistic === libertiy|away is now known as libertiy [02:03] gla: ever heard about launchpad? [02:03] yes [02:03] ok. [02:03] though we're focused on the real-time communications piece of a community [02:03] I'm not sure we'd want that. We already have too many communications media, most of which are threaded. [02:06] gla: anyway, feel free to offer your technology to canonical/launchpad people :) [02:06] * domas whistles [02:06] domas: Why them instead of us? [02:07] alrighty, will do [02:07] I've actually been in talks with partnering with canonical, simply seeing some community feedback before hand [02:08] I suspect the part of the community that hangs out on IRC probabyl isn't looking for a web thingy to replace IRC. [02:09] ScottK: yea I'm starting to think that [02:09] getting like 0 adoption from this [02:09] while when I show non-irc users they love it [02:09] =) [02:09] so, it's really fucking interesting the psychology behind it [02:10] persia: because they're ones building communication at large? :) [02:10] !ohmy [02:10] Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. [02:10] persia: for all the web-presence :) [02:10] oops, sorry! [02:10] domas: Well, bits of it. freenode should be thanked, and we do use mailing lists sometimes :) [02:10] persia: oh yes ;-) [02:11] * ScottK has tried web based alternatives to IRC and universally found them inferior in any way they were different. [02:11] Gla: I suspect it's a tools thing. There's a bit of a barrier to entry for IRC, but once folks have become accustomed to using it as a tool, other things seem somehow less simple. [02:11] I think this is true. [02:11] yea [02:11] * persia has gone to some lengths to merge most non-irc realtime communications into IRC [02:12] IRC can sit in background, you can sit in multiple talks, you can re-enter communication at will, etc [02:12] in the grand scheme of things IRC is a REALLY small community [02:12] Gla: undoubtably. [02:12] gla: in the grand scheme of things people use facebook ;-p [02:12] yea [02:12] but we still thought it would be the best place to start [02:12] starting to think that's very incorrect [02:13] From an Ubuntu community perspective, Ubuntu Forums is probably a better place to start. [02:13] so it sounds [02:13] And extra points for having an IRC gateway :) [02:13] thanks [02:13] how'd you know? we closed it [02:14] Oh :( [02:14] sign up page? [02:14] :)) [02:14] New bug: #253895 in kerberos-configs (main) "upgrading to 8.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253895 [02:14] we were using Freenode Auth at first [02:14] then they got pissed [02:14] shut us down [02:14] use fbconnect! [02:14] * domas giggles [02:14] No. [02:15] Best to discuss things in advance so infrastructure providers don't get annoyed. [02:16] Doesn't surprise me they got pissed. [02:16] Web forums are just NNTP for people too stupid to configure a newsreader. [02:16] No. [02:17] They offer a couple features NNTP doesn't (like avatars, "beans" (or equivalent), etc.) === libertiy is now known as libertiy|away [02:18] xfaces? ;-) [02:18] But yeah, I'll grant you that. The short story is that they're features *I* don't use, so I dismiss them. [02:19] twb: OK. Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to write NNTP plugins for the top three forum engines in Ubuntu. [02:19] =) [02:19] I might do that if I routinely found discussion on forums useful. [02:20] The forum threads that google takes me to (for Ubuntu or otherwise) tend to be pretty vacuous. [02:21] I haven't had an ubuntu question answered by a forum :( [02:22] I've actually found some good answers on the forums for PEBKAC issues. [02:25] twb: I think that's about par for the course. [02:41] how would i completely block all network activity? would ufw deny outgoing, and ufw deny incoming completely block all network activity [02:42] ubuntu: "sudo stop networking"? [02:43] Dropping all packets in INPUT and OUTPUT wouldn't affect routing (the FORWARD chain). [02:43] Note: you *really* don't want to do such things on a remote machine. [02:57] ubuntu: the ufw stuff would work generally, but there are several things you'd need to do to stop all networking via iptables [02:57] ubuntu: you'd want to make sure net/ipv4/ip_forward was set to 0 [02:58] ubuntu: and you'd want to adjust /etc/ufw/before.rules to not allow the stuff it does (eg, multicast, dhcp and some other stuff) [02:58] ubuntu: the best thing to do is bring down the interface: eg 'sudo ifdown eth0' [02:58] ubuntu: obviously, don't do that remotely [02:59] so i'm tryin to get mpd to play music thru my ubuntu-server... it keeps crashing everytime i try to play a file, and i'm not assuming it's lack of codecs. i don't think ubuntu-restricted-extras is a good package to install on my server, i just need mp3 and aac (m4a) support... [03:01] ubuntu: with ufw> that of course is in addition to setting the default policy to deny for incoming and outgoing and enabling ufw [03:01] (like you said) [03:01] That or unplug the network cable. [03:02] that works too :) [03:02] quite well actually [03:02] Sometimes hardware solutions are the best. [03:02] :) [03:02] Backhoe through the fibre [03:02] That's just a specific implementation of unplug the network cable. === libertiy|away is now known as libertiy [03:03] You would think in a facility that doesn't allow cellphones, they'd use shielding to block the signal, wouldn't you? [03:04] If they did, there'd be no need to prohibit them [03:04] Sorry, I was thinking about the wifi case, and wandered into a rant about DoJ [03:04] ScottK: multiple layers of security [03:08] anyone use mpd with ubuntu-server? [03:08] I do not [03:09] arrrghhh: if it is crashing, there is surely a bug [03:09] i had it working previously, but i decided to wipe my server and start fresh. i can't get it working now. [03:09] well i was thinking alsa at first, then mpd configuration, then i thought codces, but i'm pretty sure i just installed the correct codecs so i'm not sure where to turn now. [03:11] sorry, I've got nothing :( [03:11] * jdstrand wanders off [03:11] lol thanks [03:13] does one need to rerun GRUB after editing GPT ? [03:15] That would depend how you edited it. [03:15] I would say generally no (assuming grub 2). [03:15] don't you need to run "update-grub2"? [03:16] mmmm, the evil thing I did was creating a filesystem at different offset with same UUID (but that wasn't / or /boot) [03:16] That just updates the cfg file to point to the current kernels [03:16] server didn't boot afterwards :) [03:16] domas: you should NEVER have two filesystems with the same UUID (well, except LVM snapshots) [03:16] twb: well, I dropped old partition, created new one, then assigned same UUID via xfs_admin [03:17] So there was only one filesystem that that UUID at boot time? [03:17] yep [03:17] Hmm, I'm surprised that didn't Just Work [03:17] there was unreferenced space between two partitions that could have had partition header [03:17] I'm not sure if it is related [03:17] I have these six-core opterons that have miserable failures with karmic [03:17] You could easily fix that by zeroing those blocks. === libertiy is now known as libertiy|away [03:19] mhm [03:20] * domas reboots [03:22] ok, it didn't boot [03:22] so no mpd users? does anyone play musically locally from their server? or even an httpd stream? === libertiy|away is now known as libertiy [03:23] reinstall takes nearly 10 minutes [03:23] arrrghhh: what was the actual problem? [03:23] domas: why don't you boot a live CD and just fix grub? [03:24] fresh install and i can't get mpd to play music. crashes everytime i try. at first it was showing volume n/a, but i changed mpd.conf to make the alsa config more basic, and now volume shows 100%. [03:24] twb: reinstall = Ctrl+N :) [03:24] twb: using live-cd requires flying to datacenter [03:24] or using java-UI remotely with some CD emulation [03:24] or building network recovery image [03:24] Ugh [03:25] and while this server is being reinstalled, I can break another one [03:25] :) [03:25] Just assign the live CD .iso to the second SCSI LUN [03:25] qemu -curses -hda foo.img -hdb rescue.iso or similar. [03:25] don't use virtualization [03:26] Oh, just those bloody KVM-over-IP things? [03:26] ssh server.mgmt; start /SP/console [03:26] Ah, serial-over-IP. MUCH nicer [03:26] yup [03:27] I got a sheevaplug (OMAP-in-a-box) a while back, and I was pleasantly surprised that it's ttyUSB0 connector Just WorkedTM [03:28] saw some sheevaplugs around :) [03:28] Mine's running buildbot :-) [03:28] hah! [03:29] with distcc to all the computers connected to powergrid? [03:29] oh and i also thought it could be codecs. i didn't install ubuntu-restricted-extras, i just want music... so i think i installed the proper gstreamer & faac codecs for mp3 & aac playback... [03:29] Catches pesky x86isms. [03:29] arrrghhh: "crashes" as in segfaults? [03:30] twb, well i'll be in ncmpc, and as soon as i hit "enter" on a song to play it, the connection is immediately lost, and when i check if mpd is running, it is not... i'm not getting errors in /var/log/mpd/mpd.log, wouldn't it show a segfault there? [03:30] 437 seconds since kernel boot, install done [03:30] * domas waits for reboot [03:31] hey since i installed codecs i have new errors in mpd.log!! [03:31] arrrghhh: not necessarily. dmesg(1) often reports segfaults. [03:31] mpd isn't modular, so I don't know what you mean by "install codecs". [03:31] mpd[5406] general protection ip:b6e841b5 sp:b5369850 error:0 in libavcodec.so.52.20.1 [03:31] mpd will have a strict Depends: on the decoder libraries it can use. [03:33] hrm. where is the depends list? i was hoping dependencies would've been taken care of by the initial install [03:34] meh, sucky part of these uninstalls is that we get ssh warnings [03:34] there's one quick fix [03:34] use same key each time :) [03:34] domas: ssh-add -R 10.0.0.1; ssh -oStrictHostKeyChecking=no 10.0.0.1 [03:35] Hmm, not -R [03:35] twb: we use puppet to distribute ssh keys too [03:35] but have to re-authenticate puppet too [03:35] oh well :) [03:36] There was a way to tell ssh to remove entries from the host key list [03:36] If you want to be REALLY naughty, ssh -oUserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null [03:37] Ah, ssh-keygen -R 10.0.0.1 [03:37] meh, hardy has 0.97 grub [03:38] * domas runs update-grub [03:38] Does GRUB Legacy support GPT at all? [03:38] I always forget [03:38] well, it boots with installer-built GPT [03:38] Shrug; OK. [03:38] so, partially, yes [03:39] the odd part is that I don't even get grub menu === libertiy is now known as libertiy|away [03:40] ok, let's check if it boots now :) [03:41] crap [03:41] does not [03:42] Are you doing the install with -- console=ttyS0? [03:42] Otherwise it won't propagate that into the grub config. [03:42] menu.lst has 'serial' line [03:42] hmmm [03:43] jdstrand, ok and how do i disable all network interfaces [03:45] ubuntu you can restart networking if you have that file configured [03:45] /etc/network/interfaces [03:52] twb, so any ideas? I'm out. I'm not sure how I got it working previously, other than I used pulse before. I'd rather use alsa, pulse was a pain and I think the reason mpd stopped working on my previous install. [03:53] Is pulseaudio installed? [03:53] twb, no, i'm tryin to do it with just alsa... is that not possible? [03:53] Are you working with a single, known-good audio file? [03:53] It certainly *used to* work with plain alsa; last time I used mpd, pulseaudio didn't exist. [03:54] i can focus on one file [03:54] yea, i like the concept of pulse but the implementation seems... poor. [03:54] or perhaps i'm not leveraging it properly, which is entirely possible as well. [03:55] Assuming that pulse is just esd2, I really don't see the point. Anything intel-hda based probably has hardware mixing. [03:55] (i had to do horrible, horrible things to get it to run as a daemon/init script. i guess that's "not recommended", it's supposed to be session-based) [03:55] do you know any online service that tests personal proxies? [03:55] rafaelsoaresbr: personal proxies of what? [03:55] yea, i like the idea of network audio that's relatively angnostic. [03:55] i couldn't get it to work tho [03:56] twb, I want to test my proxy server [03:56] rafaelsoaresbr: what kind of proxy? [03:56] twb, squid [03:56] So an HTTP proxy. [03:56] rafaelsoaresbr: What do you want to test about it? [03:57] twb, I've activated authentication [03:58] twb, so I want to known if was working [03:58] That doesn't require anything special on the server side. [04:04] arrrghhh, i want to completely disable interfaces, i nano that interfaces file and it says aouto lo [04:04] iface lo inet loopback [04:05] so that's your loopback [04:05] if you do "ifconfig" what do you get? pastebin it pls. [04:05] The loopback interface is needed for some things (e.g. portmapper). [04:05] then why are my wlan and ethernet active if not listed [04:05] ifconfig is deprecated; you should use "ip addr". [04:05] it is? [04:05] ubuntu: probably because you installed NetworkManager [04:06] ubuntu: did you install this server using the Server install CD, or the Desktop install CD? [04:06] on a server install? interesting. [04:06] arrrghhh: I always blame NM until I see evidence to the contrary. [04:06] i like the output of "ip addr" much better. [04:06] twb, probably a good idea. [04:06] ahh twb sorry i am on a desktop atm i want to make an encrypted system on my laptop that has no internet connection so im asking ahead of time [04:06] twb: update-grub didn't help, grub-install did [04:07] soooo, parted corrupts grub on GPT [04:07] good to know [04:07] domas: well, yeah; update-grub writes menu.lst; grub-install writes the MBR [04:07] hehe, so I figured [04:07] But I don't know why parted would "corrupt" grub. [04:07] It might be that grub legacy on GPT does a lilo style "just remember the block offset" instead of actually grokking the GPT layout. [04:08] domas: It *can* work (e.g. some forms of the parted based installer work). gdisk may be more suitable for some of your tasks. [04:08] this way the only way files come on and off are via disks so no way to hack my personal files [04:08] persia: I've never heard of gdisk. Is it a GUI for something? [04:08] twb, so i'm guessing you're not a mpd guru... how about codecs? i don't really think installing ubuntu-restricted-extras is a good solution for just music playback... [04:08] twb: It's fdisk for GPT (in lucid) [04:08] i figured the server side would know more about blocking network interfaces and ufw [04:08] persia: well, parted works, as long as you rewrite MBR record afterwards [04:08] twb, http://pastebin.com/r23gAqT7 That's my squid.conf. take a look at lines 21-25, 54 and 56. how does it looks like? [04:08] persia: hmm, why not GNU fdisk/cfdisk, which back onto libparted? [04:09] ubuntu, disconnect the cable turn off the wlan switch. nothin better. [04:09] * persia points at random upstreams vaguely [04:09] but i am going to use the same laptop to acess the net via live cds [04:10] twb: parted can be made to work (and several bugs were fixed in the lucid cycle, letting me install a previously uninstallable machine), but there remain some. [04:10] Shrug. Fair enough. [04:10] then i can reboot and acess my files on a crypt with no network ifs [04:10] I couldn't get GPT to work without EFI, and I don't have a crapbook. [04:11] persia: parted works [04:11] =) [04:11] persia: just GRUB doesn't work afterwards parted works [04:11] anyway, one mystery less [04:11] heh. Yeah. [04:11] Well, sometimes. [04:11] you can reinstall GRUB [04:11] My experience is that grub works after parted works *unless* I use LVM. [04:11] no LVM here [04:11] GPT though [04:12] Dunno then. worked for me. [04:12] * persia just want through the guided install on the installer [04:12] hehe [04:12] how can I get aligned partitions with installer? :) [04:12] (thats the only reason I'm doing this post-install partition magic now) [04:13] My experience is that grub works until it doesn't, and then I have to spend three hours on the phone with some poor bugger who can barely speak english trying to get him to burn and boot a live CD [04:13] :) [04:13] Which is why I use extlinux for most deployments. [04:14] domas: Use the lucid installer? I beleive it aligns paritions by default. [04:14] persia: ah, great [04:14] I'll give lucid a try once it is released :)) [04:14] too lazy to setup netboot imagesnow [04:14] libparted 2.2 will warn about unaligned partitions, too. [04:14] yeah, I've looked at fresh parted source [04:14] it aligns at 1MB boundary if you ask it to [04:14] RC comes out on the 22nd, which is today for some folks. May as well give it a try if you're doing a new install anyway. [04:14] Though I couldn't work out how to say "great, then please pick the nearest aligned block" [04:15] pity though that you can't specify custom alignment [04:15] unless you want to hack libparted, of course [04:15] or calculator and 'unit b' [04:15] Yeah [04:16] I was trying to align on my 128kB erase blocks, which is easy with GPT but a massive pain with msdos disk labels [04:21] 15% performance improvement after aligning on 256k stripes [04:21] \o/ [04:22] so does anyone use ubuntu-server to play audio out of the local soundcard? [04:25] domas: did you actually measure that? [04:25] mpd[6156] general protection ip:b6ff71b5 sp:b54dc850 error:0 in libavcodec.so.52.20.1 - those are the errors i'm getting when mpd crashes [04:26] twb: yes [04:26] domas: with what, Coker's bonnie++? [04:26] twb: ~/raidbench.c [04:26] Hm. [04:26] I have a tool that does not have any command line options [04:26] and I edit source [04:27] to do what I want it to do [04:27] :) [04:27] Is it public code? [04:27] now it is: http://p.defau.lt/?Z_lDclYEgquRx64Hhcdz2Q [04:27] this is uniform-random-load-tester [04:27] for apples-to-apples comparisons [04:28] Ah, so you're testing without the filesystem layer? [04:28] similar results are with filesystem layer [04:28] I was just too lazy to format filesystem with correct alignment options [04:28] Nod. [04:28] twb: I had 'align your filesystems' on my mysqlconf slides :) [04:29] http://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dgjzt2ms_40gjxrjkdx \o/ [04:29] slides 4/5 are db-agnostic [04:29] Bleh, doesn't work in w3m. [04:30] :))) [04:30] there's pdf export there [04:30] Not in w3m [04:30] http://docs.google.com/present/export?format=pdf&up=1&bg=1&inline=0&id=dgjzt2ms_40gjxrjkdx¬es=0 [04:30] haha [04:30] there is... [04:31] http://pastebin.com/QbDaGRcq <-- what I see [04:31] 'view together' ? [04:31] people should start using real browsers [04:32] Oh, right. [04:32] I was looking for something with "PDF" in it. [04:33] IMO "real" doesn't equate to "attempts to reinvent NeWS on top of HTTP" [04:33] well, browser is not just about HTTP, is it? :) [04:43] oh dear [04:43] what did I do wrong when I got 15% difference [04:43] so aplay makes horrible sounds from the sound card... i'm guessing audio works then? [04:44] domas: have you tried bonnie++? [04:44] I hate it when this happens [04:44] arrrghhh: are you playing a wav file? [04:44] twb: hehe, I don't want to initialize 2TB arena with bonnie :))) [04:44] domas: OK :-) [04:44] twb, it was an mp3 [04:44] arrrghhh: what evidence do you have that aplay works with MP3s? [04:44] i just wanted to see if i could get any sound at all [04:45] it sounded like my speakers were shredding themselves haha [04:45] so mplayer can handle this mp3, i get audio... it says thru alsa :D yay! so the issue is indeed with mpd. [04:47] New bug: #568223 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (universe) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/568223 [04:55] damnit, what did I do to get >10% difference [04:55] I want that NUMBER back!!! === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [06:40] I'm installing Ubuntu Server, and I set up a raid 5 array. After reboot, the raid5 array says it's resyncing, and since the three disks are 1TB, it's taking forever. Is it natural for it to be auto-resyncing right after RAID/FS creation? [06:40] Yes. [06:40] Assuming you mean md raid [06:45] yes [06:46] why? If the raid and FS are new, why is it trying to sync data that isn't really there? [06:46] When an array is first created and assembled, it will do an initial sync [06:46] The data *is* there, it's just not meaningful data [06:46] Since the md layer doesn't know what data the filesystem considers meaningful or not, it has no choice but to sync it all [06:47] twb, ah, the raid and the fs don't communicate. [06:47] AFAIK, that is correct [06:47] If you want that, you might investigate btrfs or zfs; they do some md/lvm stuff internally. [06:47] And I assume I shouldn't mess with the raid until the sync is done? [06:47] aka write data to it [06:48] lukehasnoname: it doesn't matter, but a reboot will cause it to re-start the sync [06:48] It's perfectly OK to write data during the sync [06:49] mk [06:53] sigh, when will btrfs support parity raids?! [06:54] Probably when it's production-ready :-P === rafaelsoaresbr_ is now known as rafaelsoaresbr [09:08] with uec where is the interface defined for dhcpd/dhclient? ive changed eucalyptus.conf to make hte privnet eth0 (rather than eth1), but after a restart its still using eth1 === cs278| is now known as cs278|work [09:15] hi everyone hi anyone knows a good howto on how to setuo mailservero on ubuntu? [09:17] <_ruben> libertiy: check the server guide on help.ubuntu.com [09:18] is there some automated postfix installer that sets things up ? [09:18] <_ruben> "things" ? [09:18] i dont feel like digging realy deep into the mailserver stuff i just need a solution for my webserver to host some mailbox [09:18] something like qmail toaster [09:19]