[00:00] <vlar> nsadmin actually i don't want to get into scripting tonight , I just want a paquet, any idea?
[00:00] <nsadmin> vlar: sounds like a custom job to me
[00:01] <vlar> nsadmin ouch :(
[00:03] <vlar> nsadmin do u like hacking big companies ? :p
[00:03] <nsadmin> and when you get fairly deep, shell scripting is probably harder than perl, harder than python, maybe harder than lisp
[00:03] <rafaelsoaresbr> does anyone knows if there is a frontend gui for squid3?
[00:04] <nsadmin> vlar: no, I like doing joint ventures that make both of us money
[00:06] <vlar> nsadmin that's great ! do u want me to share my trick ?
[00:06] <cachtkntx> hi... is there ppc (imac) channel? a bit of a noob with linux and having trouble with the nvidia driver
[00:06] <chrisTKC> cachtkntx, You can try and ask here.
[00:07] <genii> !ppc
[00:07] <genii> Hm
[00:09] <cachtkntx> ok here it goes... i installed 9.10 on an imac flatpanel 17" G4 (read the powerpcfaq)... all went well. For some odd reason the resolution is right but the color depth looks off on the screen.
[00:09] <cachtkntx> tried the nouveau... same thing...
[00:09] <nsadmin> !find xotcl
[00:09] <Jason1> Any Ubuntu help?
[00:09] <cachtkntx> tried to edit the xorg.conf... it's empty
[00:10] <nsadmin> that;s normal, mostly xorg can autodetect
[00:10] <nsadmin> you can make a config file by doing X -configure
[00:10] <Typos_King> cachtkntx:    define 'odd'
[00:10] <Typos_King> cachtkntx:    define 'off', rather
[00:10] <nsadmin> not divisible by 2?
[00:10] <cachtkntx> will try that
[00:10] <Typos_King> heheh
[00:11] <nsadmin> not divisible by 2 and no power applied?
[00:11] <Typos_King> well, you can divide an odd by 2 :P, if you don't mind the floats
[00:11] <cachtkntx> off as in ... the boot and shutdown splash logo is totally solarized (rainbow colors)... desktop background more so any image is grainy and gradient is not smooth
[00:11] <genii> cachtkntx: You can't do that command while an X session runs, this includes gdm. Also after copy the xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:12] <nsadmin> true; I didn't properly qualify
[00:12] <Typos_King> cachtkntx:    ahhh, low color resolution depth, check what depth you have -> xdpyinfo | grep -i "of root";    I'd gather 8bit or 256
[00:13] <mfive> hey guys, is there anyone here that may be able to answer a few (i think) simple questions about virtualhosts and subdomains
[00:13] <Typos_King> cachtkntx:    that'd be due to the use of generic video drivers though, you can check the repositories for a Restricted one or newer one
[00:14] <nsadmin> mfive: a lot of that is probably going to involve dns
[00:14] <mfive> i haven't even asked a question yet!
[00:14] <mfive> but I think you're right - in a sense
[00:15] <mfive> i'm trying to access my subdomain virtualhost from another computer on the LAN
[00:15] <mfive> I can see it fine on the ubuntu server itself (using firefox)
[00:15] <mfive> but not on any other computer
[00:15] <techhelper1> are you using an ip or the hostname?
[00:15] <mfive> hostname
[00:15] <cachtkntx> Typos_King:   depth of root window:    24 planes
[00:15] <mfive> can you use a subdomain with an ip?
[00:15] <techhelper1> no
[00:16] <mfive> i didn't think so
[00:16] <techhelper1> and not with the hostname
[00:16] <nsadmin> but you should just ask, and let anyone answer... be specific informative concise complete... and remember that everyone will be answering the following question for themselves (and you should too): what is the highest best use of my time
[00:16] <techhelper1> subdomains are for domains
[00:16] <liquid> could anybody here please tell me, how to compare two md5 string containing files which look like file_a: id:hash:salt file_b: hash:salt:plaintext and get sed to replace hash:salt from file a with plaintext from file b (i just started using sed so i'm not that familiar using it yet)
[00:16] <Typos_King> cachtkntx:    .... that's 32bit colors :{
[00:16] <techhelper1> i forget the cloak mode on here
[00:16] <mfive> okay, but i can access it via http://subdomain.hostname from the browser on my server and it works
[00:16] <nsadmin> and subs are for sandwich shops!
[00:16] <cachtkntx> Typos_King: then it's the driver :\
[00:17] <Typos_King> cachtkntx:    32bit is 24bit plus 8bit for z-bumping, but X shows it as 24, no 32 as many consider it as misnomer anyhow
[00:17] <Typos_King> cachtkntx:    you can check the repositories for a Restricted one or newer one
[00:17] <mfive> i need to have the subs working so that when I'm developing sites i can use relative urls to the document root and it won't matter what folder the files are actually in. hope that makes sense
[00:17] <cachtkntx> Typos_King: gonna take a look... tnx for the tip
[00:18] <nsadmin> mfive: example?
[00:18] <techhelper1> do you have it set to "allow from all"
[00:18] <techhelper1> or "allow from 127.0.0.1"
[00:20] <nsadmin> when you say "I can see it from ..." you mean exactly what? and when you say "except these other machines, so I can't see it from them" -exactly- what do you mean?
[00:21] <mfive> nsadmin: I have several sites I'm developing. They are located in /var/www/site1, /var/www/site2, /var/www/site3. So they have relative links in the html/php files to images <img src="/images/234.jpg" />, that way, when the site goes live I don't have to change a thing. So i set these up as subdomain virtualhosts. and it works fantastic. All of my images show up when I go to http://site1.myhostname
[00:22] <mfive> The probleml is - they only work in the browser of my ubuntu machine. My laptop is on the same network, and if I do http://myserverhostname, I can see the /var/www contents, but if I do http://site1.myserverhostname, I get an error from my IP with their default "search" page
[00:23] <nsadmin> what is the exact text of the error message you get?
[00:23] <edthix> hi, is it possible to upgrade from jaunty (i386) to karmic using 9.10-alternate-amd64.iso?
[00:24] <techhelper1> is the computer 64-bit?
[00:24] <genii> edthix: No
[00:24] <nsadmin> not sure whether you can cross like that
[00:24] <chrisTKC> ed1703, No. You'll have to backup your personal + config files. Reinstall.
[00:24] <genii> (different arch installs)
[00:24] <edthix> genii: ok, tq
[00:24] <chrisTKC> We don't even know if edthix's computer are capable of amd64. :(
[00:24] <Typos_King> hehh
[00:24] <mfive> nsadmin: it's not an "error" it's just like if you were to open your browser and go to http://somerandomtext
[00:25] <mfive> my ISP just has a default search page for when it doesn't recognize the TLD or website
[00:25] <mfive> It's a Time Warner RoadRunner page
[00:25] <Typos_King> chrisTKC:  he seems to think it does, or that it even 'needs' it
[00:25] <genii> chrisTKC: Even if it is, it won't upgrade to 64bit from a 32bit initial dist
[00:25] <nsadmin> can you watch your access log and error log?
[00:26] <chrisTKC> genii, Right. I'm hoping he know his machine are capable of it... and not just because 64 sounds more powerful than 32. :)
[00:26] <chrisTKC> mfive, At least, try "http://site1.<actual-ip>"
[00:26] <mfive> Not sure what you mean by that. I'm still learning the ropes of ubuntu
[00:26] <mfive> I know where my access logs are
[00:27] <nsadmin> the error logs might be in the same place
[00:27] <mfive> Christkc - instead of pulling up the website, it goes to a google search (i'm using Chrome)
[00:28] <mfive> I can access the error logs as well
[00:28] <nsadmin> ok, so can you watch them? (tail -f or less +F)?
[00:29] <mfive> Guys, I just got it to work
[00:29] <mfive> Here's what I did
[00:29] <mfive> I'm on windows vista
[00:29] <mfive> I edited my hosts file in windows/system32/drivers/etc
[00:29] <mfive> and added the line
[00:29] <mfive> 192.168.1.30 site1.myhostname
[00:29] <mfive> and now it's working
[00:30] <nsadmin> but that won't work everywhere
[00:30] <hiexpo> did the medibutu repos get fixed
[00:30] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:30] <oleg__> how to install pidgin?
[00:30] <mfive> Right, ok, so I can tail the error logs
[00:30] <mfive> one sec
[00:30] <nsadmin> at least you got it going locally, which is good since you're working on it
[00:30] <Halitech> mfive, that will only work for computers on your local network
[00:30] <Typos_King> oleg__    sudo apt-get install pidgin;
[00:30] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get install pidgin
[00:31] <chrisTKC> !synaptic | Typos_King
[00:31] <oleg__> thanks
[00:31] <chrisTKC> Typos_King, Use Software Center.
[00:31] <nsadmin> I run bind in my LAN
[00:31] <oleg__> :)
[00:31] <mfive> Halitech/nsadmin - If you've got time, I'd love to get this to work externally as well
[00:31] <Typos_King> heheh
[00:31] <chrisTKC> Meh. oleg__ see above.
[00:31] <Halitech> mfive, does it work by ip externally?
[00:31] <nsadmin> I change it once and it's changed for every machine on my lan
[00:31] <mfive> not the subdomain, but my webserver does, yes
[00:31] <mfive> The webserver has been set up for a while
[00:32] <mfive> and been running great
[00:32] <nsadmin> well 192.168.* are not routable IPs
[00:32] <Halitech> mfive, do you have the sub-domain setup? what are you using to edit your zones?
[00:32] <mfive> hence why the subs don't work?
[00:32] <chrisTKC> mfive, Try "http://site1.earth.local" --> Swap "earth" with your $HOST
[00:32] <Fishscene> mfive, I know I'm jumping in the middle of this, but to get it to work externally, you either need to use your Internet IP address or update a DNS record to point to your location
[00:33] <mfive> chrisTKC - did not work - same ISP search page
[00:33] <SpaceCowboy40404> I am having an issue with my router and hoping someone can give me a hand? Linksys WRT54G
[00:33] <Fishscene> Space: Might want to ask in #networking
[00:33] <mfive> Okay, so how can I use my WAN IP for a subdomain?
[00:33] <SpaceCowboy40404> well lit could be the router or it could be ubuntu.. im not sure which...
[00:33] <Halitech> mfive, do you have a registered domain?
[00:33] <Fishscene> mfive: It's a DNS record entry. Basically you point your subdomain to an IP address.
[00:33] <perhamlinux> SpaceCowboy40404: what's the problem?
[00:34] <SpaceCowboy40404> gonna tell whats going on and you guys tell me if you think its the router or ubuntu
[00:34] <mfive> I have several domains, but I've never tried hooking up my Ubuntu server to it because honestly, I was scared it's over my head
[00:34] <nsadmin> subdomain of what domain?
[00:34] <mfive> I'm all for trying to set up BIND (that is what I need to do to use a domain, right?)
[00:34] <Halitech> mfive, so the answer is no for this purpose
[00:34] <mfive> nsadmin - my host, but that's probably the problem, huh
[00:34] <nsadmin> or some name server, or get someone to host the dns for you
[00:35] <hiexpo> hello all whats new magoo's
[00:35] <DryGrain> How do I add someone to the 'sudoers file'? Where is it? I am asking in regard to this error message: "lfs is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[00:35] <Halitech> mfive, are you trying to use a sub-domain of one of your domains and have it point to your ubuntu server?
[00:35] <mfive> well, not necessarily, but that would be sweet
[00:35] <perhamlinux> DryGrain: use "sudo visudo"
[00:35] <Halitech> DryGrain, as sudo run "visudo"
[00:35] <Fishscene> There are several free dns hosting places... such as dyndns.org which looks like it will do what you need mfive
[00:36] <DryGrain> Okay
[00:36] <Pici> DryGrain: Its easier to just add the user to the 'admin' group
[00:36] <SpaceCowboy40404> I am running a ventrilo server on this laptop with a wired connection to a router. With the server up and running if i log into ventrilo using my server laptops IP address everything works fine, but if i log into ventrilo using my external IP address i cannot log in.... however if i Login to my ventrilo server using windows and my external IP address everything works fine.
[00:36] <SpaceCowboy40404> internal network ip and all works like a champ
[00:36] <mfive> Fishscene, really? I use dyndns right now for my webserver, but I've never had a domain name hooked to it
[00:36] <SpaceCowboy40404> external ip and nothing works
[00:36] <techhelper1> the external ventrilo works for sure...
[00:37] <Halitech> mfive, you could use the DNS tool of your domain hosting company to create a sub-domain and point it to a dyndns address which will point to your server
[00:37] <SpaceCowboy40404> it works on windows, but not on ubuntu
[00:37] <oleg__> how to install sopcast?
[00:37] <techhelper1> did you port forward, and check the routing
[00:37] <techhelper1> from port forward checkers
[00:37] <mfive> dns tool?
[00:37] <SpaceCowboy40404> i portforwarded the ports that the FAQ on vent's website said to use for linux
[00:37] <DryGrain> Pici, what is the bash command to add a user to the 'admin' group?
[00:37] <Halitech> mfive, where do you have a domain registered currently?
[00:38] <mfive> godaddy
[00:38] <Pici> DryGrain: sudo adduser username admin
[00:38] <SpaceCowboy40404> not sure how to check the routing or not sure what you mean by that part?
[00:38] <oleg__> how to install sopcast?
[00:38] <DryGrain> Thanks!
[00:38] <oleg__> how to install sopcast?
[00:38] <Halitech> mfive, ok, there should be an option to create a sub-domain in the godaddy hosting
[00:38] <oleg__> how to install sopcast?
[00:38] <mfive> halitec: ahhh, Ok, I think I've seen that, one sec
[00:38] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404,  - u still having probs ?
[00:38] <joscht> -l
[00:39] <techhelper1> according to your ip which i got from your hostname
[00:39] <techhelper1> i found out that ventrilo does not work on the outside
[00:39] <techhelper1> you would likely need a port scan to see if something like that is their
[00:39] <SpaceCowboy40404> hiexpo: not with ventrilo but with either my router or ubuntu
[00:39] <techhelper1> and allowed by all ip's not the internal network
[00:39] <hiexpo> oh ok
[00:39] <SpaceCowboy40404> hiexpo: it works fine inside the network from one pc to another
[00:40] <SpaceCowboy40404> hiexpo: but when you come from outside the network it dont work
[00:40] <hiexpo> what kinda router
[00:40] <techhelper1> did you port forward 3784 from that computer
[00:40] <techhelper1> to the router
[00:41] <SpaceCowboy40404> hiexpo: i even opened the specific port in the firewall and also disabled the firewall completly and that didnt help
[00:41] <techhelper1> 3784 meaning the port tcp/udp
[00:41] <SpaceCowboy40404> techhelper1: yes
[00:41] <flexo> hey. could someone give me the default gnome-terminal color palette of ubuntu?
[00:41] <techhelper1> the firewall on the computer or the router?
[00:41] <fodder70> ventrilo also uses port 6100 udp i think
[00:41] <SpaceCowboy40404> techhelper1: both
[00:41] <poi77> Hi! I am using 9.10 and encountering an odd problem. I change the password but it seems to be reverting after a reboot. Why and is this a cause for concern?
[00:41] <Fishscene> You need to "port forward" or setup an application on the router to forward the vent port to your vent server.
[00:41] <techhelper1> Fishscene he did but it isn't being allowed
[00:42] <techhelper1> oh SpaceCowboy40404  you probably need to restart your router
[00:42] <chrisTKC> poi77, Are you using a LiveCD? o.O
[00:42] <SpaceCowboy40404> i opened 3784 on the firewall and forwaded 3784 tcp/udp to this laptops ip addy of xxx.102
[00:42] <kaolbrec> When creating a shortcut to a java application, (a .jar file) is it possible to specify which jvm to use?
[00:42] <mfive> halitech ok, so there is an option to "forward subdomains" in godaddy
[00:42] <mfive> for this domain name
[00:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> restarting router... brb
[00:43] <Fishscene> Spacecowboy: Is this on a home connection? It's also possible that your ISP is blocking the port... but let's rule out everything else first.
[00:43] <Halitech> mfive, so you would need to create a sub-domain and then direct it to either a dyndns hostname or your ip address
[00:43] <carlitos> hola putos
[00:44] <mfive> halitech, that would work, but it won't allow me to direct it to a virtualhost subdomain
[00:44] <mfive> i don't want the subdomain of my domain to point to the root of my webserver
[00:44] <mfive> does that make sense? i hope I'm using the right terminology
[00:45] <nsadmin> mfive: if you put the subdomains to the same IP address, then the web server has to differentiate based on the name it sees in the browser request headers
[00:45] <poi77> Hi! I am am having an odd problem. I tried changing my password using gui in 9.10 and the change reverted after a reboot. Why and is this a cause for concern?
[00:45] <Halitech> mfive, in the apache conf you should be able to set it up that if a request comes in for site1.<subdomain.com> to be redirected to a specific folder
[00:46] <mfive> i think that part is over my head
[00:46] <SpaceCowboy40404> ok router reset and no difference
[00:46] <snedzo> hello
[00:46] <nsadmin> mfive: you can do virtual hosting, which means the web server will look at the name
[00:46] <snedzo> do u get cam chat in this?
[00:46] <Halitech> mfive, do you have anything other then the default site setup right now?
[00:46] <tic^> SpaceCowboy40404: what router you did you say you have? a linksys?
[00:46] <mfive> yea, I have several sites set up
[00:47] <mfive> wait, i lied
[00:47] <SpaceCowboy40404> Linksys WRT54G
[00:47] <mfive> I think i misinterpreted what you said
[00:47] <tic^> i had the same one, i trash canned it. it was junk.
[00:47] <mfive> right now i have the default site set up. and then I also have another virtualhost set up for this site that I'm trying to get to work with a subdomain
[00:47] <Halitech> mfive, do you have anything other then default in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled ?
[00:48] <stillme> hello all, i just installed ubuntu 9.04 on a samsung laptop with ATI graphics card, everything works well, but am wondering if i have to run the ATI graphics driver??
[00:48]  * nsadmin misread samsung laptop as spamming laptop
[00:48] <tic^> SpaceCowboy40404: i ghad alot of problems with the same router, i trash canned it and my problems went away.
[00:48] <mfive> halitech, i have "000-default" "essential" and "ssl" (essential is the subdomain we're talking about)
[00:48] <xavier_> Hi guys. Anyone can help me setup a video streaming using vlc? Can't manage to find a really good tuto
[00:48] <xavier_> and I guess it is easy actually
[00:49] <SpaceCowboy40404> ive had this router for about 5 years and it has never given me any issues at all
[00:49] <joscht> what is the dcc exploit and should i worry about it in here?
[00:49] <xavier_> and nobody answers on #videolan
[00:49] <hiexpo> did ya update the firmware for linux
[00:49] <tic^> SpaceCowboy40404: i had the same one and had nothing but problems with it.
[00:49] <Fishscene> SpaceCowboy40404: are you able to host other services?
[00:50] <matmatician> @<stillme> you dont have to, but it will make your resoultions better and give you more graphic options if you decide to install a theme manager down the road
[00:50] <SpaceCowboy40404> i dont use any other services
[00:50] <stillme> whats the theme manager??
[00:50] <Halitech> mfive, ok, does the essential work internal?
[00:50] <techhelper1> SpaceCowboy40404: ever thought of putting dd-wrt on it
[00:50] <stillme> am new to this??
[00:50] <SpaceCowboy40404> whats dd-wrt.. if thats hyprwrt i already have it
[00:50] <mfive> halitech, yes the "essential" site works internally by going to essential.ares (ares is my hostname)
[00:50] <matmatician> its a program that will make your desktop look all coo
[00:50] <Fishscene> SpaceCowboy40404: Have you tried using a site like grc.com to check to see if the port is open?
[00:51] <techhelper1> just a port checker
[00:51] <techhelper1> not a effing scanner
[00:51] <SpaceCowboy40404> checking grc.com now
[00:51] <DryGrain> I am building a linuxfromscratch system on anothr hard drive partition from my ubuntu karmic. I have created another user on my system who is the owner of the packages I am working with on this seperate partition. When I tried to compile my first package in this environment, binutils, I got "Permission denied". Should I 'sudo' this command, or will running the install as root damage my host system?
[00:51] <techhelper1> http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
[00:51] <hiexpo> need to put dd wrt on it for it to work right with linux
[00:51] <techhelper1> that is what you need, because grc is going to be way over you
[00:51] <SpaceCowboy40404> whats dd wrt?
[00:52] <Halitech> mfive, ok, so you need to create a dyndns account to point to the server, then in the site-enabled conf file, put the same account name that you created with dyndns account
[00:52] <techhelper1> an alternative os to the linksys firmware
[00:52] <techhelper1> a geeks control to a router you can say
[00:52] <SpaceCowboy40404> oh so its similar ti hyprwrt then
[00:52] <hiexpo> firmware for that router
[00:52] <techhelper1> and openwrt and so on
[00:52] <techhelper1> yah
[00:52] <techhelper1> i like dd-wrt on my router
[00:52] <hiexpo> what version is it
[00:52] <wildbat> hi,
[00:53] <nsadmin> can you get wrts with more ram?
[00:53] <techhelper1> latest
[00:53] <SpaceCowboy40404> 2.0 last i checked it was the most current
[00:53] <mfive> halitech, ok, i'm logged into dyndns right now. do you know what service it's called that I need to set up? is it in  My Zones / Domains or My Hosts?
[00:53] <nsadmin> and more storage?
[00:53] <techhelper1> they don't make it anymore
[00:53] <hiexpo> yes
[00:53] <powertool08> Does anyone know of a linux rdp client which supports nla connections to server 2008?
[00:53] <techhelper1> the wrt54g
[00:53] <Halitech> mfive, I think its under my hosts
[00:53] <SpaceCowboy40404> what the heck: Port 3784 is closed on 72.198.24.88
[00:53] <SpaceCowboy40404> how is that possible
[00:53] <Fishscene> ISP might be blocking the port.
[00:54] <SpaceCowboy40404> lemme check that.. i work for the isp
[00:54] <Neo--> lol
[00:54] <techhelper1> SpaceCowboy40404: what is the First 4 digits/letters of your serial on the router
[00:54] <techhelper1> i can find the version
[00:54] <techhelper1> of your router
[00:54] <mfive> halitech, hostname wants to give me a subdomain of something like dnsalias.org, that's not what I want, correct?
[00:54] <Fishscene> If everything is correct on your end (router forwards the tcp/udp port to the proper internal IP address, then that's where my money is at.
[00:54] <wildbat> anyone know if there is tools for batch changing/converting codepage(e.g. BIG5, JS, GB)  and encode (UTF8, unicode-16, ASCII)?
[00:54] <SpaceCowboy40404> wait it wouldnt work for the windows machine if my isp was blocking
[00:54] <Halitech> mfive, yes, thats the right spot
[00:54] <techhelper1> and then install dd-wrt and see if linksys is having the problem
[00:54] <xavier_> Is that UBUNTU channel or HACKING channel?
[00:54] <Fishscene> It works for your Windows machine externally?
[00:54] <techhelper1> run the website on the windows computer then
[00:54] <nsadmin> mfive do you have a static IP?
[00:54] <hiexpo> hope its under ver 4
[00:54] <mfive> halitech ok, i've got it set up pointing to my external IP address
[00:54] <techhelper1> and see what you get
[00:55] <mfive> no, I do not
[00:55] <SpaceCowboy40404> yes works fine for windows externally
[00:55] <kaolbrec> Can I specify which java to use in a shortcut to a .jar file?
[00:55] <mfive> nsadmin, I have a static local ip address. not a static ip address from my ISP though
[00:55] <cbilljones> Hi im having an issue with video signal dropping over HDMI, using zotac board, nvidia ion chipset; using 195 drivers, any ideas?
[00:55] <xavier_> SpaceCowboy40404: I would not give this info to techhelper1
[00:55] <tic^> SpaceCowboy40404: do you have a friend you can borrow another router from?
[00:55] <nsadmin> and you want to be reliably contacted from outside?
[00:55] <cbilljones> also connecting to a sharp aqous 52
[00:55] <iflema> wget www.whatismyip.com/automation/n09230945.asp -O - -o /dev/null | more
[00:55] <Fishscene> Your router doesn't destinguish whether the source/destination computers are running what OS. It only cares about routing. Might want to investigate your linux box that can't connect then.
[00:56] <techhelper1> well if the windows computer can do it
[00:56] <stillme> pls do i have to install ATI driver for my ubuntu?? what do i gain by doing so?? thanks
[00:56] <Halitech> stillme, what ati video card?
[00:56] <techhelper1> SpaceCowboy40404: it is something on the port forward and how you got it
[00:56] <SpaceCowboy40404> tic: no but i can remove the router and go straight cable modem and then connect on another laptop via sprint wireless card
[00:56] <techhelper1> since it only allows your internal network
[00:56] <stillme> ATI 2500
[00:57] <mfive> nsadmin, I'm not sure what you're getting at, can't I use an update client
[00:57] <techhelper1> so it is with the router ^ according to that SpaceCowboy40404
[00:57] <nsadmin> sure, you could do that
[00:57] <Halitech> stillme, radeon HD2500?
[00:57] <mfive> nsadmin, so that would be my temporary sollution until i get a static ip from my ISP
[00:57] <hiexpo> the router has to be firmwared i have worked all the linksys routers no other way
[00:57] <stillme> no i meant ATI X1250
[00:58] <Halitech> stillme, running ubuntu 9.04 or higher?
[00:58] <wildbat> anyone know if there is tools for batch changing/converting codepage(e.g. BIG5, JS, GB)  and encoding (UTF8, unicode-16, ASCII) for text file?
[00:58] <nsadmin> is a static IP what you want? or do you want a web site on a remote host?
[00:58] <nada> how are you??
[00:58] <techhelper1> SpaceCowboy40404: what is the 1st 4 digits of the sn
[00:58] <techhelper1> that way i can determin the version
[00:58] <techhelper1> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/12772
[00:58] <stillme> am running ubuntu 9.04
[00:58] <SpaceCowboy40404> techhelper1: they saud not to give you that info?
[00:58] <Halitech> mfive, another option would be to register a new domain and use zone edit to point to your ubuntu server
[00:59] <techhelper1> well go to that link and look at the 1st few characters of the serial number
[00:59] <Halitech> stillme, then you have only the open source driver to use, there is no support from ati for that card
[00:59] <hiexpo> thats not gonna do anything SpaceCowboy40404
[00:59] <SpaceCowboy40404> ok getting it then
[00:59] <techhelper1> and tell me the version of your router then i can help you install dd-wrt
[00:59] <mfive> halitech, I'm down with that. I have a spare domain name I can use. but I'm not familiar with zone edit
[00:59] <SpaceCowboy40404> just a sec
[00:59] <techhelper1> ok
[00:59] <techhelper1> ty
[00:59] <rafaelsoaresbr> quick question: how change recursively the ower and group of a directory?
[00:59] <nsadmin> if you're going to register a domain, you need someone to pull DNS duty for it
[01:00] <Halitech> mfive, zoneedit.com I think, you can register for free and control the zone info for up to 5 domains for free
[01:00] <bastid_raZor> rafaelsoaresbr: chown -r owner:group directory
[01:00] <ikthus> chown -r
[01:00] <stillme> Halitech, i use the system for blender, and the interface really drags
[01:00] <ikthus> bastid_raZor, u blasted me :p
[01:00] <SpaceCowboy40404> 3321
[01:00] <Halitech> stillme, laptop or desktop?
[01:00] <nsadmin> rafaelsoaresbr, chown (but NOTE, this is a DANGEROUS command)
[01:00] <stillme> laptop
[01:00] <SpaceCowboy40404> oops thats last 4 hang on a sec
[01:00] <Typos_King> rafaelsoaresbr:    chown -r OWNER:GROUP FILESTODOHERE;
[01:00] <Halitech> nsadmin, thats what zone edit can do
[01:00] <Halitech> stillme, ok, out of luck then
[01:00] <SpaceCowboy40404> CDF5
[01:01] <techhelper1> you have a WRT54G v2.0 / ADM6996L Chipset / CPU 200Mhz
[01:01] <ikthus> rafaelsoaresbr, chow -r user@group /your/path
[01:01] <SpaceCowboy40404> ok
[01:01] <joscht> when i try to record my compiz desktop to show my friends there are always black bars does someone know why?
[01:01] <rafaelsoaresbr> bastid_raZor, nsadmin, Typos_King: I want to change the owner of /var/spool/squid to "squid:squid"
[01:01] <hiexpo> good router
[01:01] <nsadmin> Halitech: zone edit can be an experienced domain admin person running dns servers on very well-connected net pipes?
[01:01] <ikthus> rafaelsoaresbr, chow -r user@group /var/spool/squid
[01:01] <stillme> ohh
[01:01] <bastid_raZor> rafaelsoaresbr: prepend with sudo
[01:02] <nsadmin> ikonia, let
[01:02] <Halitech> nsadmin, I used it as a newbie running on a cable connection
[01:02] <ikthus> with sudo off curze
[01:02] <SpaceCowboy40404> am i supposed to do something with info techhelper1?
[01:02] <nsadmin> ikonia, lets be more cautious :) cd there first
[01:02] <ikthus> feuk
[01:02] <techhelper1> hold on i am looking up the instructions
[01:02] <SpaceCowboy40404> oh ok
[01:02] <mac_linux> Hello everyone, quick question.  Is it possible to successfully install linux, however experience erratic behavior do to a corrupt installation disk?
[01:02] <hiexpo> no hes probally getting dd wrt stuff
[01:03] <techhelper1> follow this article SpaceCowboy40404 http://dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linksys_WRT54G_v2.0
[01:03] <joscht> when i try to record my compiz desktop to show my friends there are always black bars does someone know why?
[01:03] <nsadmin> I could have gotten a wrt54g from frys... should I have?
[01:03] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404, make sure you follow the instructions to the doted i's or you will brick it
[01:03] <Fishscene> mac_linux: I wouldn't rule it out, but it's unlikely that it is the cause. What do you mean by "erratic" behavior?
[01:03] <Typos_King> mac_linux:   the installation disk is .... what?   what is the question again?
[01:03] <_pg_> mac_linux: i think so
[01:03] <mfive> halitech, i'm looking into this right now. thanks so much for your help
[01:04] <rafaelsoaresbr> bastid_raZor, nsadmin, Typos_King: invalid option 'r'...
[01:04] <Halitech> mfive, no problem, hope it works for you
[01:04] <techhelper1> under the How To Flash section of it
[01:04] <bastid_raZor> rafaelsoaresbr: -R
[01:04] <Typos_King> rafaelsoaresbr:    chown -R OWNER:GROUP FILESTODOHERE;
[01:04] <hiexpo> nsadmin, depends on model and version there not all good
[01:04] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:04] <SpaceCowboy40404> before i try that im going to remove the router and connect this pc straight to the cable modem and then see if i can connect to it from another laptop using a sprint wireless card
[01:04] <techhelper1> SpaceCowboy40404:  ^
[01:04] <techhelper1> ok
[01:05] <tic^> the wrt54g i had would have been more useful for me.
[01:05] <SpaceCowboy40404> that should tell us if its a router issue for sure, right?
[01:05] <techhelper1> yes
[01:05] <tic^> as a brick
[01:05] <rafaelsoaresbr> bastid_raZor, nsadmin, Typos_King: okay, that worked, thanks
[01:05] <SpaceCowboy40404> brb
[01:05] <nsadmin> I would do it with a root shell personally, it's a bit safer
[01:05] <mac_linux> I've successfully installed linux on my powerpc g4, however, it gets warm and shuts down sometime.  No one else i've talked to had this problem with my version of ubuntu (9.4) so i'm wondering if it's the disk.
[01:05] <techhelper1> if you change the software to the dd-wrt it could ellimiate the software on the router itself having the problem
[01:06] <Halitech> mac_linux, dirty heatsink? dying drive?
[01:06] <hiexpo> tic^, lol
[01:06] <nsadmin> I have a wap that's probably 54g
[01:06] <lastelement0> hey all i'm facing an issue with 9.10 64bit with downloads and them just stalling in the middle of them. but i can still browse the internet have IM convos, etc. any thoughts as to what to do?
[01:06] <Fishscene> Sounds like an overheating problem. I'd dust out the machine first, then look into seeing whether Ubuntu has high processor usage.
[01:06] <Scarra3> Hey I can't find the daily build of ubuntu 10.04 lts
[01:06] <nsadmin> it's got power and one eth
[01:06] <hiexpo> !lucid
[01:06] <ZykoticK9> Scarra3, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:07] <mac_linux> Honestly, Halitech, I'm not sure. CPU usage would go very high at times.  Can't seem to pinpoint why.
[01:07] <Halitech> mac_linux, open "top" and see what it tells you
[01:07] <ZykoticK9> Scarra3, RC is released tomorrow BTW
[01:07] <hiexpo> one should use 32 bit on 64 bit system runs better
[01:07] <mac_linux> I have ruled out hardware because i'm able to install os x fine...no shutdowns.
[01:07] <joscht> when i try to record my compiz desktop to show my friends there are always black bars does someone know why?
[01:08] <Halitech> mac_linux, can you boot from the live cd and run memtest with no issues?
[01:08] <mac_linux> haven't tried that...
[01:08] <Fishscene> mac_linux: I'd still dust out the machine first, then check "task manager"? to see what processes are spiking the CPU usage.
[01:08] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, are you a week ahead
[01:09] <mac_linux> would "livecd" accurately reflect this?
[01:09] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, no RC = release candidate
[01:09] <Halitech> mac_linux, it should
[01:09] <crlsgms> where is postgresql bin folder?
[01:09] <lastelement0> hey all i'm facing an issue with 9.10 64bit with downloads and them just stalling in the middle of them. but i can still browse the internet have IM convos, etc. any thoughts as to what to do?
[01:09] <mac_linux> Cool...worth a try.
[01:09] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynxSchedule
[01:09] <nada> hi every body ^^
[01:09] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, my bad, i was secretly hoping i had false info...
[01:10] <colorlessprism> nada, hello
[01:10] <mac_linux> memtest tests ram right?
[01:10] <Halitech> mac_linux, yes
[01:10] <nada> i first time join this chat
[01:11] <colorlessprism> why does xchat have spot in notification area but Thunderbird does not?
[01:11] <mac_linux> hmm...well, i doubt it is the issue, again since my mac is working fine with os x.
[01:11] <mac_linux> but i'll try.
[01:11] <Typos_King> colorlessprism:   check Thunderbird settings, it might be off I'd think
[01:12] <rafaelsoaresbr> now squid is working. another question: how to disable logging?
[01:12] <Halitech> mac_linux, I've seen issues pop up in windows but not linux and vice versa so just because one OS works doesn't mean another will
[01:12] <colorlessprism> Typos_King, its just not there
[01:12] <colorlessprism> Typos_King, had to use kdocker, but i get an ugly white box around it. evo does not dock either
[01:13] <mac_linux> ok...i'll try it.  i may report back later.  Thank you!
[01:13] <Typos_King> colorlessprism:   ... they load to the tray only if the app is programmed so, so
[01:14] <colorlessprism> Typos_King, somewthing about new rules, i just cant beleive there is not a mail client that can minimise to notification area by default
[01:14] <cbilljones> Im having an issue with nvidia driver, it wont save to config file
[01:14] <Wild_Doogy> cbilljones:  I think you need to be root to do that
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> cbilljones, "gksu nvidia-settings" or are you getting the parse error?
[01:14] <Wild_Doogy> I remember solving that by running nvidia-settings as root
[01:15] <cbilljones> zykotick9: getting parse error
[01:15] <janelle> my beta install will upgrade to final yes?
[01:15] <janelle> beta 2 that is
[01:15] <Typos_King> colorlessprism:   .. ?    there probably are... knode or kmail.... dunno, I'm not running either, so :)
[01:15] <ZykoticK9> cbilljones, see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/nvidia-settings-issue-karmic
[01:16] <colorlessprism> Typos_King, im just complaining, i used evolution, and then changed to tbird for rss feeds but neither dock like they used to back in 8.04
[01:16] <cbilljones> Zykotick9: srry, actually im getting "Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing."
[01:17] <ZykoticK9> cbilljones, see the same link
[01:17] <cbilljones> zykotick9: doing now, update in a moment
[01:17] <Halitech> cbilljones, probably doesn't exist by default, you can create it manually though
[01:18] <Typos_King> colorlessprism:   just checked in Kmail, it has 'enable system tray icon', is just not enabled by default, soo :P
[01:19] <colorlessprism> kamil work on ubuntu?
[01:19] <cbilljones> zykotick9: no change still getting error
[01:19] <janelle> anyone know for sure if you can just update from lucid beta 2 all the way to final I assume you can but want to be sure
[01:19] <Typos_King> colorlessprism:   well, I'm on kubuntu, but it should install in ubuntu, sure
[01:19] <Halitech> cbilljones, sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:19] <ZykoticK9> cbilljones, can't explain that then.  Good luck man.
[01:19] <Halitech> colorlessprism, yes but it will install a bunch of KDE dependencies along with it
[01:20] <Typos_King> colorlessprism:   it'll just load a few extra kde libs that it wouldn't on a kubuntu install ^_^
[01:20] <colorlessprism> Typos_King, yes i use ubuntu but kdocker works much better than alltray
[01:20] <colorlessprism> Typos_King, thanks
[01:21] <cbilljones> halitech: ran that, still no change
[01:22] <ZykoticK9> cbilljones, you are using "gksu nvidia-settings" rather then the icon in the menu right?
[01:22] <Typos_King> janelle:    you 'can' sure, you 'can' jump off a cliff too, if you wish, being able to do something and it being practical are not really mutually inclusive, soooo, I'd suggest instead to do a full-install wheneve possible
[01:22] <Halitech> cbilljones, so you created the file and then ragksudo nvidia-settings ?
[01:22] <vocx> Typos_King, Halitech do you know how much disk space are the basic kdelibs? I think installing 50 MB isn't that much, but if the basic QT libraries were 100 MB or more, then I would consider that
[01:22] <nada> Bye....I'm going to sleep
[01:22] <cbilljones> zykotick9: yes, using gksu nvidia-settings
[01:22] <_Ba_> hi, I cant install ALSA driver on ubuntu 10.4
[01:22] <cbilljones> halitech: the file exists
[01:23] <nada> Time we have late
[01:23] <Pici> _Ba_ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[01:23] <Halitech> vocx, not sure, I installed k3b on xfce but couldn't tell you how much extra space it used
[01:23] <Counterspell> I am experiencing some obnoxious tab-completion behavior for sqlite3, where can I go to tweak tab-completion for a specific command?
[01:23] <colorlessprism> anyone been having a problem with lanuchpad not updating karma?
[01:23] <Wild_Doogy> albert king + steve ray vaughan
[01:23] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, it's updated once a day
[01:23] <Wild_Doogy> lol, sorry, wrong window  :-\
[01:24] <TravisAlan> Could someone please remind me of the Ubuntu general chat channel?
[01:24] <Typos_King> vocx:    I don't think there are many, I run some gnome apps, and the installation, in apt-get it shows before you go ahead, wasn't that big really, around 10mbs or so at the most
[01:24] <TravisAlan> the one for off-topic talk...?
[01:24] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, i have done a lot on launchapd since i registered 03/21 and its still zero
[01:24] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, what you don't include your IRC nic in your LP details ;)
[01:24] <Pici> TravisAlan: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:24] <TravisAlan> ty
[01:25] <TravisAlan> sorry for the disturbance
[01:25] <Halitech> vocx, mark it in Synaptic and see what it wants to include and how much additional space it wants to use, can cancel if its too much
[01:25] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, not everything gets karma - what have you been doing?
[01:25] <Typos_King> vocx:    I use gnome network manager for one, installed files were just 2.3mbs
[01:25] <janelle> thank you for the reply Typos_King, but not for the smart ass remark
[01:25] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, answereing questions mostly, actually getting credit for a few
[01:26] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, questions should be giving karma for sure!
[01:26] <vocx> Halitech, I'm just thinking about other users which are mislead into thinking that just because one app is "for KDE" (uses QT), that is not a reason no to install it in your gnome desktop, and vice versa
[01:26] <Typos_King> janelle:    I'm just saying hehe, updater beware
[01:26] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, im getting nothing
[01:26] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, perhaps ask in #launchpad (or similar) then
[01:27] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, thanks
[01:27] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, now what did you mean by launchpad details and IRC?
[01:27] <Halitech> vocx, got ya, I run xfce and I use a few gtk apps and a few qt apps, avidemux being one that looks better in qt then gtk
[01:27] <Typos_King> vocx:    I think those arguments aren't really that accurate, many apps just require this or that lib from this or that package, but not necessarily the whole package
[01:27] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, i went searching for you in LP but couldn't find you with colorlessprism
[01:28] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, oohh, you have to "details" me on here my bad
[01:28] <Typos_King> vocx:    if you install with apt-get install, it tells you exactly who/how many/which/what sizes/how big once installed/  is going to get, and you can assess from there
[01:29] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, well if you search ZykoticK9 on LP you'll find my account - on the details page there is a place to put your IRC nic (it's a good idea to do so, helps out from time to time)
[01:30] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, found ya :)
[01:30] <janelle> Typos_King: try this instead" yes Janelle you can, but it's not recommended" see same thing, but much less rude
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, you might have another issue as well - you do have your IRC details on LP - but searching "colorlessprism" gives no results, strange
[01:31] <hanasaki> what's the name of the 3D panel bar like the Mac has
[01:31] <Typos_King> janelle:    yes you can, but often times the update doesn't go as smooth as one wishes, and thus is better to back yourself up before doing so, for backups, is better to have them and no need them  than need them and not have them, sooo, is recommended  instead to do full-install and your chances of success are greater :)
[01:32] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, i thought i had details on there....i wonder whats going on then...
[01:32] <vocx> Typos_King, janelle, not a problem with upgrading since Ubuntu 6.10... just saying
[01:32] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, certainly ask in the lp channel, mind you they'll probably tell you to ask a question on LP / Answers (a common answer in that channel unfortunately)
[01:33] <Typos_King> vocx:     all poodles are dogs, but not all dogs are poodles ^_^
[01:33] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, ive asked in the channel, but no response. i guess ill post on launchpad then. thanks man
[01:34] <janelle> thanks vocx and Typos_King, I appreciate the information
[01:34] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, LOL - i read one of your answers about firefox-tabs today
[01:35] <darth_grantius> sup guys
[01:35] <colorlessprism> Typos_King, btw i just found an addon that minimises tbird to panel with no box. thanks for the help
[01:35] <GodfatherofEire> How do I compile Tor from source on ubuntu? I keep running into an error with libssl, but that's not in the repos (at least not by that exact name)
[01:36] <juaneldebla_> alguien sabe por que no me deja extraer mi cd
[01:36] <Typos_King> darth_grantius:   ceiling, clouds, stratosphere, comets, planets, galaxies, stars, supernovas, pulsars
[01:36] <Fishscene> !espanol | juaneldebla_
[01:36] <vocx> GodfatherofEire, don't search by exact name, use something like "aptitude search libssl" I have "libssl-dev" there. It has the header files.
[01:37] <juaneldebla_> si pero es que ay no saben
[01:37] <juaneldebla_> y aqui como ay mas gente
[01:37] <midijake> which key(s) do you press to resize a window?
[01:37] <juaneldebla_> no intento ofender
[01:37] <GodfatherofEire> vocx, I know, Its libssl0.9-dev, but when it goes to compile it keeps looking for libssl
[01:37] <juaneldebla_> solo quiero help
[01:37] <ikthus> que pasa juaneldebla_
[01:37] <mneptok> Ingles solamente, pf
[01:37] <ikthus> empujes el buton y se pasa nada ?
[01:37] <Typos_King> colorlessprism:   you know that dumping an app to the systray, provides you with an icon but not with a notification, like say, inbox mails or new rss feeds arriving, I mean, I use iceWM and I can drop any window to tray heheh, won't give me a notified icon though
[01:37] <juaneldebla_> no
[01:37] <mneptok> ikthus: Ingles. solamente.
[01:37] <ikthus> caillate
[01:38] <vocx> GodfatherofEire, well, then you need to formulate a more specific question, and post some errors and stuff. Saying it doesn't work is of no use.
[01:38] <colorlessprism> Typos_King, kdocker allowed for popup messages, but i hadnt noticed the icon did not change, i check on this addon and see
[01:39] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, just an FYI - the Ubuntu install will allow you to install Grub onto external USB devices (not by default obviously, you need to specify) without having to remove the internal HD (but that is a safe way to do it)
[01:39] <GodfatherofEire> vocx: http://pastebin.com/YhgXnZRT
[01:40] <Losha> GodfatherofEire: why aren't you installing Tor from binaries?
[01:40] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, checking up on me i see, yeah i made the mistake once of not paying attention to an install...i find its easier most times to just have them unplug a drive
[01:40] <midijake> I have lost all the titlebars and I cannot drag to resize windows... can I fix this?
[01:40] <GodfatherofEire> Losha, none of the installs worked
[01:40] <juaneldebla_> anyone knows that will not let me remove the cd
[01:40] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, actually i'd read that earlier as well :)
[01:41] <Losha> GodfatherofEire: which os release are you running?
[01:41] <Typos_King> midijake:    this happens after you login?
[01:41] <GodfatherofEire> Losha, 10.04, but I /think/ I had also tried it on 9.10 or 9.04
[01:41] <midijake> well.. yes.. it was working fine and suddenly they are gone
[01:42] <lint_> i have a questtion, how xcan i mark a .exe file as executable in ubuntu?
[01:42] <Typos_King> juaneldebla:   come again?
[01:42] <vocx> GodfatherofEire, Well, that is a very generic error. I guess it doesn't find the library for some reason. Aaaah, you are using 10.04, you know that libraries might still be out of sync?
[01:42] <SpaceCowboy40404> for those that were helping me with my ventrilo and router issue.... when i remove the router from the equation and hook this ubuntu laptop straight to the modem, people can connect to the server just fine from external ip's
[01:42] <Losha> GodfatherofEire: 10.04 support is on #ubuntu+1. For what it's worth, I successfully installed Tor using http://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[01:42] <Lynn^_^> I tried rebooting yesterday and got the message "verifying dmi pool" and it got stuck there.  I haven't opened the computer lately, so no change in hardware, something seems corrupt, but not sure where to start
[01:42] <Typos_King> lint_:     chmod a+x FILEHERE;
[01:42] <SpaceCowboy40404> so the issue is definitly with the router
[01:43] <juaneldebla_> anyone knows that will not let me remove the cd
[01:43] <GodfatherofEire> I'm not sure whether it was a problem with Tor or a problem with Firefox/Torbutton actually accessing it, but I couldnt get it to work any of the times I tried
[01:43] <Typos_King> juaneldebla:   come again?   wha?
[01:44] <juaneldebla_> no se ingles
[01:44] <powertool08> !es
[01:44] <GodfatherofEire> !spanish juandebla_
[01:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> going to try the firmware upgrade that techhelper1 reccomended?
[01:45] <techhelper1> do you want too
[01:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> techhelper1: should i?
[01:45] <techhelper1> follow the section where it says how to flash
[01:45] <techhelper1> yes i think so
[01:46] <techhelper1> and download the 2 firmware files it says
[01:46] <techhelper1> just google those names or click the links they have
[01:46] <midijake> I know that by pressing ALT I can move a window... is there a key to let me resize one?
[01:46] <juaneldebla_> anyone knows that will not let me remove the cd
[01:46] <hiexpo> there is a book called hacking the wrt54g is a great book
[01:47] <SpaceCowboy40404> techhelper1: now that i have it all connected back through the router the windows pc has the ip that linux had before and now the windows pc wont connect... so it is definitly a router issue :(
[01:47] <SpaceCowboy40404> gonna go do the firmware upgrade now will holla back when im done
[01:47] <MGMTM3> what would be the best drivers in 10.04 for an ATI 4890?
[01:47] <ZykoticK9> midijake, alt+middle mouse button
[01:48] <hiexpo> !lucid
[01:48] <Pici> MGMTM3 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[01:48] <midijake> I have a 2-button mouse
[01:48] <ZykoticK9> midijake, sorry don't know then
[01:49] <MGMTM3> will do
[01:49] <hiexpo> Spacetraveler, no mistakes
[01:49] <midijake> right button works... gives a menu
[01:50] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, question has been posted...my first question posted on launchpad is about launchpad...define irony
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, and won't apply to ubuntu-karma (unless you posted in ubuntu, which isn't quite correct)
[01:51] <midijake> anyone know how to get back lost titlebars?
[01:51] <colorlessprism> ZykoticK9, thats ok, i just want to "get to the bottom of this" just thought it was funny
[01:51] <ZykoticK9> midijake, "compiz --replace" for compiz or "metacity --replace" for Gnome default
[01:51] <ZykoticK9> colorlessprism, it is :)
[01:52] <midijake> are you supposed to have both compiz and metacity installed?
[01:52] <ZykoticK9> midijake, typically yes (is default with Ubuntu)
[01:52] <midijake> ok
[01:53] <midijake> my terminal comes up blank though... can use it
[01:53] <midijake> can't
[01:53] <ZykoticK9> midijake, what about alt+f2
[01:54] <midijake> I don't know what to do there... type what you wrote?
[01:54] <ZykoticK9> ya "metacity --replace"
[01:54] <midijake> do I do them both?
[01:54] <ZykoticK9> midijake, no just metacity right now
[01:55] <midijake> ok will try
[01:55] <midijake> after I do how do I exit that terminal?
[01:56] <ZykoticK9> midijake, sorry thought you used alt+f2
[01:56] <ZykoticK9> midijake, you'd need to run "nohup metacity --replace &" in order to be able to close the terminal afterwards
[01:56] <midijake> not yet... I will but how do I get out of it after?
[01:57] <midijake> ok
[01:57] <ZykoticK9> midijake, did you get your titlebars back?
[01:58] <midijake> workin on it
[01:59] <midijake> that seems to have worked... thank you
[01:59] <ZykoticK9> midijake, glad to help
[02:00] <Sirius_> Hi out there, is there anyone who may help me with something? Considers SSH-stuff...
[02:00] <ZykoticK9> !anyone | Sirius_
[02:02] <Sirius_> lol I crushed a server 2h ago and was reading man's after and after... I'm simply looking for a cmd to re-run the service via the console... sounds stupid and basic for you, but not for me -.-
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> Sirius_, assuming karmic "sudo service ssh start"
[02:04] <kaushal> becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs
[02:04] <kaushal> I have already become a member here
[02:04] <kaushal> becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs
[02:05] <kaushal> but it does not allow me to become eligible for more CDs
[02:05] <ZykoticK9> kaushal, an "Ubuntu Member" is a hard thing to become - it's an exclusive club ;)  I'm certainly not one - but working towards it :)
[02:05] <arand> !member | kaushal
[02:05] <nada_> where are from kaushal
[02:06] <nada_> ???
[02:06] <kaushal> from India
[02:06] <Losha> !in
[02:06] <nada_> :)
[02:06] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: I wouldn't say becoming an ubuntu member is an exclusive club, in fact I think it is a little to open
[02:07] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, point taken
[02:07] <Losha> kaushal: cds are relatively cheap. Can you find a local source on #ubuntu-in perhaps?
[02:07] <kaushal> sure
[02:07] <coachj> ubuntu tweak
[02:08] <coachj> dose anyone use it?
[02:08] <coachj> does*
[02:08] <zeroseven0183> Hi! Does anyone know how I can correct this error: "bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist." ? I'm trying to download the via Bzr the Ubuntu Manual project files.
[02:09] <kaushal> hi
[02:09] <kaushal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/420145/
[02:10] <zeroseven0183> Last night I was already downloading the files. However, since I was very sleepy, decided to cancel the process and continue it this morning instead. Then that's the error message I receive
[02:10] <mfive> nsadmin, so I set up my domain name to work with zoneedit.com's DNS servers
[02:11] <arand> zeroseven0183: I would try to download in a fresh directory.
[02:11] <mfive> what additional changes will i need to make to my apache2 virtualhosts to get them to recognize the subdomains?
[02:11] <zeroseven0183> Hi kaushal, if you have a good internet connection, you can obtain the ISO by downloading it from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
[02:11] <zeroseven0183> arand: I deleted the old directory and created a new one (with the same name, though). Haven't tried doing it on a different folder
[02:11] <kaushal> zeroseven0183: sure
[02:12] <webwanderer> hi guys where can I download the stardict dict files? this isn'
[02:12] <webwanderer> t working http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries_dictd-www.dict.org.php
[02:12] <nsadmin> mfive: what are the domain names? you can pm them to me if uncomfortable, or not...
[02:13] <zeroseven0183> arand: I still get the same error message
[02:13] <tlyng> I'm running ubuntu 10.04b2 and my networking is lost, anybody know how to bring it back?
[02:13] <mfive> nsadmin, pm sent
[02:13] <tlyng> my networking APPLET is lost, not networking :D
[02:13] <arand> zeroseven0183: Well, "bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual" works for me..
[02:14] <vocx> tlyng, this channel is only for the current stable version, for the new version go to #ubuntu+1
[02:14] <Gnea> tlyng: it's not April 29th yet, check in #ubuntu+1
[02:14] <nsadmin> ok, looking at it
[02:14] <tlyng> Gnea, vocx: ok
[02:14] <infid> my laptop says it's only using 38% (765mb) of my 2.0GB of ram, yet says it's using 7.8% (304MB) of swap. why would it use swap if it's not even using half my ram?
[02:14] <intrader> I have posted a lengthly post in the 'General Section' of the ubuntu forum about 9.10 UI unresponsiveness. Could I get help here?
[02:14] <nsadmin> so far... ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
[02:15] <Gnea> infid: perhaps, if you could tell us what the URL is :)
[02:15] <zeroseven0183> arand: As I have mentioned earlier, I was able to make it work the first time last night. When I cancelled it, I didn't have the chance to redownload it or at least continue...
[02:16] <intrader> The url for the forum is http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=331&order=desc&page=2
[02:16] <nsadmin> looks like primary dns doesn't have it yet
[02:16] <Gnea> infid: sorry, wrong person
[02:17] <Gnea> intrader: okay, which one?
[02:17] <vocx> infid, maybe when you closed it, or put it to sleep, or to hibernate. Sometimes it puts some RAM in swap. Nothing to worry about.
[02:17] <infid> i havent hibernated in a couple days
[02:17] <Gnea> intrader: you mean this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1459701
[02:18] <nsadmin> so, a few things need to happen before the primary will be auth for the domain...
[02:18] <FriedrichMan> I know this isn't the place to ask but I've asked in #amsn and ##networking and had no response.. anyways... how is it possible for a program such as aMSN to find out what clients the rest of your contacts have?
[02:18] <Guest86064> how would i install wow off a cd onto ubuntu using wine
[02:18] <intrader> Title is Karmic Koala 9.10 UI unresponsiveness
[02:19] <Gnea> intrader: okay, needed to know the exact URL, that was all.
[02:19] <intrader> Gnea: yes
[02:19] <Gnea> intrader: thank you.
[02:19] <arand> !wow | Guest86064
[02:20] <Gnea> intrader: okay, I'm a little confused about your post. you suggest against upgrading to 9.10 when you're the only one having these problems...
[02:20] <FriedrichMan> anyone has an answer to my question? I know it's off topic... but maybe somebody in here has a tip on that
[02:21] <intrader> Gnea: I am recommending that one should not install 9.10 because of the UI problems. Sorry for the confusion.
[02:21] <Gnea> intrader: also, your wording is a bit odd... you mention installing it "on top" of 9.04, does that mean you did a whole format to / and /home or what?
[02:21] <vocx> FriedrichMan, protocols. Programs use protocols to communicate. Programs know. That's it.
[02:21] <intrader> Gnea: a full format of / and /home
[02:21] <Gnea> intrader: or did you only format /, leaving /home intact?
[02:22] <Gnea> intrader: okay, so you wiped out your data.
[02:22] <Ben201> hi
[02:22] <Gnea> intrader: is it on a laptop?
[02:22] <Ben201> i need help with clamav
[02:22] <nsahoo> hi
[02:22] <Gnea> Ben201: you'll need to explain your problem with it first
[02:23] <nsahoo> is there a command that I can use to enable desktop sharing of a remote computer?
[02:23] <FriedrichMan> vocx: so that means the aMSN checks for the ports the different chat clients use and regarding on which ports it has to listen to... what client it is?
[02:23] <intrader> Gnea: yes, I had to install clean as in November an ubgrade to 9.04 led me to the same problems in 9.10 with the UI
[02:23] <Gnea> intrader: again, what kind of system is it? portable or desktop?
[02:23] <Guest86064> Wine does nothing when i try to install wow using wine on ubuntu why?
[02:23] <Ben201> like to run run a virus scan from the command line to scan all files and remove virus should it find them please
[02:24] <intrader> Gnea: yes an old laptop Dell Inspiron 8200 that ran 9.04 with no problem - but I manually wiped out some pieces of mono, making trouble for tomboy.
[02:24] <Gnea> Ben201: sounds like a clamav-specific issue, check out #clamav please
[02:24] <Ben201> ok thanks
[02:24] <vocx> FriedrichMan, I don't think that's accurate. I think each client announces itself. It tells the other clients which protocols it speaks. Why thinking about ports?
[02:25] <Gnea> intrader: okay, you may want to edit your post to reflect that fact
[02:25] <intrader> Gnea: I mentioned it at the end sorry.
[02:25] <FriedrichMan> vocx: well I thought that's what you meant when you said protocols
[02:25] <FriedrichMan> i mean... is there a way to figure this out if you don't have aMSN?
[02:26] <Gnea> intrader: no problem. have you upgraded the nvidia driver at all or still using the default nv?
[02:26] <intrader> Gnea: I will be back - my wife calls me with dinner, sorry
[02:26] <vocx> FriedrichMan, no a protocol is a language. Sends some bytes, waits for answers, it's a way to communicate.
[02:26] <its-me-again> hi all is there a .deb file for unetbotin. i want a deb not to add a ppa
[02:26] <intrader> Gnea: also updated the NVIDEA. with no change.
[02:26] <Gnea> intrader: alright
[02:26] <vocx> FriedrichMan, there are other clients out there, pidgin, empathy
[02:27] <FriedrichMan> vocx: yeap I recently switched to pidgin... so I can no longer have that information on my contacts
[02:27] <its-me-again> empathy is to new and lacks teh features of pidgin.
[02:27] <FriedrichMan> thats why I was wondering how I could get that info
[02:28] <its-me-again> xchat is still teh best irc client for gnome
[02:28] <zeroseven0183> its-me-again: I don't think there's a .deb for unetbootin
[02:28] <vocx> Oh, you cannor tell which clients your contacts are using? I didn't know... I guess I don't have online friends.
[02:29] <FriedrichMan> vocx: I just want to know if theres a way
[02:29] <zeroseven0183> its-me-again: I'm using Pidgin as my IRC client and it's good
[02:31] <vocx> Years ago this channel had normally around 990 users, but it was heavy. Now, it routinely has 1400, but there is barely any traffic...
[02:32] <cmdbbq> so, this is weird: my clock is loosing time, as in the longer it runs, the further behind it seems to get
[02:32] <cmdbbq> *losing
[02:32] <rixxy> Is it possible to replace Arch's Pacman with deb?
[02:32] <zeroseven0183> I hope someone could help me with my Bzr problem
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> vocx:  on release day - there will proberly be 3000+
[02:33] <cmdbbq> how does ubuntu set system time?
[02:33] <zeroseven0183> Hi! Does anyone know how I can correct this error: "bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist." ? I'm trying to download the via Bzr the Ubuntu Manual project files. Last night I was already downloading the files. However, since I was very sleepy, decided to cancel the process and continue it this morning instead. Then that's the error message I receive.
[02:33] <vocx> Dr_Willis, back in the day, normal 990, on release day 1300. Now it's gone crazy.
[02:34] <subichan> please help me.. I ws stupid enough to follow a guide on a forum and ended up manual installing the kernel files in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.29.6/ on my 9.04 jaunty ubuntu.. now synaptic says i still have the default kernel, and update manager says i need updates for it..
[02:35] <vocx> cmdbbq, you could try changing the battery which keeps the BIOS clock. For a laptop, I dunno, I guess it's the same.
[02:36] <cmdbbq> vocx: suppose this is a brand new machine
[02:36] <ryankrizan> Question. I have a Core2 Duo laptop, with 4 gigs of ram. Should I run 64-bit Ubuntu or stick with 32-bit? Will the 32-bit version support the full 4 gigs of ram?
[02:36] <cmdbbq> i built it this past saturday, but only my first build
[02:36] <subichan> what version of ubuntu is kernel 2.6.29 for?
[02:37] <vocx> ryankrizan, 32-bit.Yes it will address 4 GB.
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> ryankrizan:  no it will not. It may come close. I use 64bit on all my machines that can do 64bit. (3 out of 4)
[02:37] <mfive> nsadmin, sorry got disconnected. were you saying ther's more i need to do, or will this happen as the DNS propogates filly?
[02:37] <ubuntu> how can i set ufw to block everything, will  ufw deny incomiming and ufw deny outgoing completely block everything?
[02:37] <mfive> fully*
[02:37] <marcio_> hi
[02:37] <vocx> Dr_Willis, It does not? why?
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> ryankrizan:  with exactly 4gb. some will be used by the system.
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> vocx:  its a hardware issue to some degree.
[02:37] <marcio_> chat just in english?
[02:38] <cmdbbq> perhaps something i configured wrong in the BIOS, although it does not need to be restarted for the issue to present itself
[02:38] <nsadmin> mfive: what I found was...
[02:38] <marcio_> or cay I use another language?
[02:38] <vocx> Dr_Willis, Ah, I always forget. I think there is also something in the kernel to limit a single process size to 2 GB.
[02:38] <nsadmin> the primary dns doesn't seem to have records for the domain
[02:38] <marcio_> or can I use another language?
[02:38] <Losha> marcio_: just English here. But there are other channels. What language do you prefer?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> vocx:  im refering to how the system reserves a bit of ram for various hardware/vide/other cards/devices. that will take away from that 4gb also. ive seen up to 1/2 a gb reserved for that befor.
[02:40] <onisaiga0388> Testing
[02:40] <nsadmin> !test
[02:40] <marcio_> I'm from Brazil Losha... portuguese it's my native language
[02:40] <vocx> Dr_Willis, oh, sure. But what if you use a dedicated video card. Most cards now have over 128 MB on their own.
[02:41] <mfive> nsadmin, that's strange, i wonder if it takes zoneedit.com a while to make those
[02:41] <Losha> cmdbbq: it's not unusual for clock chips to drift....
[02:41] <Losha> !pt | marcio
[02:41] <its-me-again> zeroseven0183: ok so no .deb then what does the ppa give access to then i thought it was a .deb file right
[02:41] <onisaiga0388> i love linux
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> vocx:  you dont understand.. its because teh cards have ram. that some system ram is reserved..
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> vocx:  this is not the same as 'shared' ram.. its differnt.
[02:41] <vocx> Dr_Willis, I see.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> vocx:  see --> http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1035670
[02:41] <cmdbbq> Losha: i am new to this, so i apologize for my noobishness, but how would i diagnose/fix this?
[02:42] <nsadmin> not sure. you should have gotten two dns addresses to put for the nameservers for your domain... pm me the other one
[02:42] <marcio_> !pt | marcio
[02:42] <nsadmin> the one I got contains "2"
[02:42] <vocx> Dr_Willis, by the way, I'm just going on tangents because, as I said, traffic is light here...
[02:42] <intrader> Gnea: are you around?
[02:42] <marcio_> ahhh... I understand now.. thanks Losha...
[02:44] <Losha> cmdbbq: I don't know if there's a fix. I usually run /usr/sbin/ntpdate utcnist.colorado.edu daily to keep my clock in sync, or you could run ntp. If your chip drifts really badly, I would RMA the motherboard...
[02:44] <acovrig> I have a usb modem, how do I configure it via the cmd line? 'ifconfig'?
[02:44] <mfive> nsadmin, it was ns2 and ns4 (primary is ns2)
[02:45] <nsadmin> got it... neither have records yet
[02:45] <Losha> cmdbbq: also, ask on #hardware for a second opinion...
[02:45] <nsadmin> (until they do there's no propigation yet)
[02:45] <Gnea> intrader: hey
[02:45] <mfive> nsadmin, right on, I'll just wait. i don't want to risk you not being here when it happens though, what steps should I take once they are there (or do you need that info for the next steps?)
[02:46] <cmdbbq> thank you Losha, you have been most kind and helpful
[02:46] <rujasu> Hi, I really have no idea what component is causing this problem, but when browsing the web, I'm getting random redirects pretty often.  If I try to do a google search, it will go to stumbleupon, or some random site and put up an error page.  it's like the DNS is resolving to random sites instead of the one it's supposed to, and it's really hard to track.
[02:46] <nsadmin> well I think you should contact the dns hoster to get their idea of what's next
[02:46] <rujasu> I've tried changing the DNS servers though.
[02:46] <rujasu> Doesn't seem to do anything.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> try changeing dns servers to  some free ones like googles and the same results?
[02:47] <marcio_> #ubuntu-br
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> You sure its using the new dns servers?
[02:47] <IdleOne> marcio_: /join #ubuntu-br
[02:47] <mfive> nsadmin, just read their FAQ. They won't make the changegs until the nameservers are set (which might take a little while)
[02:47] <rujasu> Yeah, I put them on Google's DNS servers, I went into my router settings and set the DNS to target 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[02:47] <mfive> i just read(
[02:47] <mfive> *
[02:47] <intrader> Gnea: hi, does the posting make more sense?.
[02:47] <nsadmin> btw, your whois record looks good
[02:48] <rujasu> I have no idea if it's actually using Google's DNS
[02:48] <Pici> 22
[02:48] <Gnea> intrader: sort of
[02:50] <intrader> Gnea: boy this a busy chat!. In a nutshell the UI in 9.10 shows all the problems listed in the post. I am running with the NVIDEA driver that is recommended, but it makes no difference.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  actually this is a slow night
[02:51] <intrader> Dr Willis: wow!
[02:51] <_juan> hi! what is the difference in kernel or packages between an ubuntu desktop installation and a laptop installation?
[02:52] <Gnea> intrader: maybe this is it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1365701
[02:52] <dbme> ?
[02:53] <laymansnerd> i have a raid 1 config that i want to get loaded at boot and it's not my / or /boot
[02:54] <h00k> _juan: There are no differences in kernel packages if you install the Desktop version on a Laptop or a Desktop
[02:54] <insider> hi all
[02:55] <intrader> Gnea: I don't get a blank screen. The desktop comes up OK with proper connection to WIFI. Would it hurt to do what is recommended in the post?
[02:55] <_juan> h00k, i have ausb modem that is detected in desktop as a modem but only recognized as a storage device in laptop, same installation, same process, different machines
[02:56] <SpaceCowboy40404> techhelper1: Upgrading the firmware to dd-wrt fixed my issue. I can now host the server form this ubuntu laptop and connect to it from external ip's
[02:56] <Gnea> intrader: not sure... I mean, it sounds like something is just wrong with the way the GUI is lining up with the pointing device
[02:57] <SpaceCowboy40404> techhelper1: BUT... the windows pc now cannot connect to the server,
[02:57] <SpaceCowboy40404> techhelper1: err lemme rephrase that.. the windows pc cannot host the server, only the ubuntu pc can
[02:57] <sinthetek> anyone know if using setterm to prevent screen from blanking will prevent xscreensaver from working properly?
[02:57] <SpaceCowboy40404> techhelper1: which is fine by me so who gives a hoot
[02:58] <sinthetek> (if it is set to suspend the screen)
[02:58] <techhelper1> SpaceCowboy40404: linksys POS
[02:58] <techhelper1> l
[02:58] <techhelper1> ol
[02:58] <vocx> Dr_Willis, heh, the article doesn't quite explian the memory thingy. It basically says that the computer will be allowed to address 4 GB of memory, but that for specific, practical reasons, it doesn't. Also it's for Windows. A linux article would be more appropriate.
[02:58] <techhelper1> lol*
[02:58] <SpaceCowboy40404> techhelper1: is netgear any better?
[02:59] <intrader> Gnea: I believe it has to do to changes related to making the touchpad work like the iPhone and other tweeks. Perhaps there is a reason for the behavior. But what I see is accurate pointing and weird behavior after that - like it taking so long to recognize a click, the trailing icons, etc.
[02:59] <its-me-again> hey i am wanting to bypass a ppa can i get the app i want manually from where the ppa links to.
[02:59] <intrader> Gnea: is the a test for mouse?
[03:00] <SpaceCowboy40404> so long and thanks for the help
[03:00] <SpaceCowboy40404> im sure ill be back again :)
[03:00] <techhelper1> i don't have a prefference
[03:00] <Gnea> intrader: I don't understand what you mean by "work like the iPhone", I don't have an iPhone.... shouldn't need to do anythign with the mouse, it should "just work"
[03:01] <its-me-again> l
[03:01] <Fudge> hi, is it possible to dd a filesystem.squash file?
[03:02] <intrader> Gnea: what I mean, is that it seams to be following the mouse as if I am doing an iPhone gesture for scrolling. Yes, it should just work, and it does in 9.04.
[03:02] <Taz> Hello everyone, uh, how can I form a new hardware profile in my sound preferences?
[03:03] <Gnea> intrader: do you have a usb mouse to plug in to see if it does the same thing?
[03:03] <MusicMan> hi where does a ppa get its app data from
[03:03] <intrader> Gnea: about the mouse preferences. The click on the lightbulb is OK, however when I try to click on the "Accesibility" takes forever and several clicks
[03:04] <intrader> Gnea: I will connect it, and I will see
[03:04] <ZykoticK9> MusicMan, could you possibly word that differently?  A PPA is a Personal Package Archive, it's where the packages are stored - in itself.
[03:05] <Gnea> intrader: okay
[03:06] <iflema> MusicMan http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/u/
[03:08] <taime1> i changed the icon for one of the folders in /home/me, and now when i switch themes, the icon for that folder remains the same, rather than changing with the other icons. how can i restore this back to defaults?
[03:09] <subichan> anybody can tell me what is the meta package one should use when trying to install new kernels as told in the description of any kernel image to make you desist from installing it manually (as i did unfortunately)?
[03:10] <subichan> i installed v2.6.29.6 on jaunty which had a .28 on it, but for some reason i can't choose the kernel in grub, it automatically loads the newest one
[03:10] <intrader> Gnea: From the USB seems to be less of a problem - and it seems to have improved the touchpoint as well; how can this be tested?
[03:11] <Taz> Does no one know how to form a new hardware profile for my sound preferences? ):
[03:11] <zenwryly> I'm using a dm-crypt home.  Is there any significant performance benefit to using a amd64 ubuntu install?
[03:11] <MusicMan> Silvinia: oy never pm anyone without asking first in main channel. its rude, annoying, and if you do it to opps they may ban you.
[03:14] <Dimoutlook> Hi to all
[03:14] <intrader> Gnea: I am using smuxi for the chat - there is a 'About' popup window with a close button. With the Dell trackpoint and buttons, it seems slower to recognize the click on the close; I have to repeat several times. With the USB it is OK.
[03:15] <Fudge> can you add a user to a hard disk install from a live cd?
[03:15] <Dimoutlook> Does anyone here us JBinUp for posting to usenet servers
[03:15] <Out_Cold> what's the startup app script called?
[03:16] <ether01> hey... been unable to boot my system for a while... i did a dist-upgrade, and now whenever i boot, i get an error related to not being able to load the kernel... i've figured it's something wrong with my menu.lst... but i can't figure out how to fix it :/ any help?
[03:16] <Out_Cold> Fudge, i think if you chroot'd you could
[03:16] <Fudge> awesome thanks
[03:16] <tptptptptp> how do you play flash videos on a media player outside of a web browser on ubuntu?
[03:16] <Out_Cold> tptptptptp, vlc
[03:17] <tptptptptp> Out_Cold, that's not workinh
[03:17] <intrader> Gnea: in the "mouse preferences' clicing o the lighbulb takes long to switch off on the single click.With the USB it is as expected, the light goes off immediately upon releasing the left button
[03:17] <tptptptptp> Out_Cold, only the audio shows up
[03:17] <Fudge> said can not lock /etc/group
[03:18] <MichaelKohler> when having a dialog with a question in it.. where is the "Yes" button natively? left or right side?
[03:18] <Gnea> intrader: is the dell mouse using a special driver?
[03:19] <Out_Cold> MichaelKohler, in my experience cancel/no is always right
[03:20] <MichaelKohler> Out_Cold, thanks
[03:20] <arkygeek> hi everyone.  I am trying to fix my mum's system remotely - I am logged in using NX ... her problem is dns related I'm sure - there is something happening that I cannot figure out.  [more]
[03:20] <Out_Cold> anyone know the name of the start up script that starts all the dameons?
[03:21] <arkygeek> she can use numerical ip addresses, for example, but everything else won't work
[03:21] <Out_Cold> arkygeek, do you have a dns server?
[03:21] <Fudge> said can not lock /etc/group/clear
[03:21] <arkygeek> yes
[03:21] <Out_Cold> Fudge, are you chroot'd?
[03:22] <Out_Cold> arkygeek, maybe you need to set the hosts in /etc/host?
[03:22] <arkygeek> it is 8.8.4.4
[03:22] <arkygeek> also, everytime she reboots she needs to run sudo dhclient eth0
[03:22] <intrader> Gnea: The list of windows at the bottom of the screen. With Dell I can get the trailing icon to appear easily - just click on one of them, leave the button clicked for a bit, move the mouse, the popup icon trails the mouse and can' be easily shake off. With the USB, I can make the icon appear, but when I move the mouse, the icon disappears on its own into the bottom toolbar.
[03:23] <arkygeek> the isp changed its name servers, is it possible that they aren't ipv6 compatible or something?
[03:24] <abahkaiyisah> goodmorning
[03:24] <grendal_prime> has anyone had any luck with ds emulation on ubuntu?
[03:24] <abahkaiyisah> anyone know how to connect ubuntu inside the VirtualBoxto internet
[03:25] <SwedeMike> abahkaiyisah: easiest is probably to have the virtualbox bridged to your network card instead of NATed internally. you can change that in vbox settings.
[03:25] <charles__> hey
[03:26] <grendal_prime> abahkaiyisah: the default network nat should handle  that
[03:26] <arkygeek> Out_Cold: it must be related to them changing their name servers i would think, what about you?
[03:27] <intrader> Gnea: curious that having the USB, seems to make the experience better for both the keyboard's trackpoin and the USB (which has a trackpoint)
[03:27] <Out_Cold> arkygehold up?ek, possible.. is there are router in between? maybe the ipv6 doesn't
[03:27] <arkygeek> there is a router inbetween
[03:27] <Out_Cold> **arkygeek, possible.. is there are router in between? maybe the ipv6 doesn't hold up?
[03:28] <Gnea> intrader: well, my guess is that the trackpoint uses a slightly different mouse protocol than the usb does
[03:28] <Out_Cold> arkygeek, you are trying to set up her computer with a dns name so YOU can reach it over the network??
[03:29] <arkygeek> Out_Cold: i added net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1  to the end of /etc/sysctl.conf   but that didn't help
[03:29] <Silvinia> I sorry , what is Window Manager?
[03:29] <arkygeek> Out_Cold: no, she has no internet access
[03:29] <arkygeek> but I can connect to her via ssh (using nx works as well)
[03:29] <abahkaiyisah> SwedeMike: ,grendal_prime:  -->  thanks, i'll try
[03:30] <Out_Cold> arkygeek, sounds like a routing issue then. even with/without dns you should be able to access internet
[03:30] <arkygeek> Out_Cold i have access to her router as well -
[03:30] <abahkaiyisah> can i install application on Ubuntu inside Flashdisk
[03:30] <arkygeek> even supo apt-get update won't resolve
[03:31] <arkygeek> Out_Cold: ^ sorry
[03:31] <intrader> Gnea: having the USB also affects the keyboard's trackpoint. Also seems to affect the scrollbar behavior. I can't get it to occur with either keyboard.
[03:31] <Out_Cold> arkygeek, sounds like it has to deal with the computer it's self.. is it using network-manager? maybe try wicd?
[03:31] <charles__> !
[03:32] <siavashserver> Hi, I've updated the linux kernel and headers to 2.6.31-r20 but there is no mouse cursor shown on the screen. any ideas? :)
[03:33] <charles__> siavashserver .... usb or ps2 mouse?
[03:33] <arkygeek> Out_Cold: lol - darn!  I can... getting: 0% {Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com]
[03:34] <Gnea> intrader: you put a usb keyboard on it too?
[03:34] <siavashserver> charles__: usb. cursor moves on the screen but its hidden
[03:34] <arkygeek> Out_Cold: /s/can/can't
[03:34] <charles__> hi magdalena
[03:34] <Out_Cold> haha arkygeek maybe scp the deb
[03:34] <arkygeek> k
[03:35] <charles__> hmmm...
[03:35] <intrader> Gnea: yes, USB is on and it has affected how the trackpoint on and button on the computer behave.
[03:36] <siavashserver> charles__ : you can see the menu and buttons highlighted when cursor crosses over them, but cursor itself isn't drawn at all
[03:37] <charles__> siavashserver I saw this before ... maybe try ps2 mouse
[03:37] <charles__> siavashserver  what keyboard ...usb or ps2?
[03:38] <siavashserver> charles__: MoBo doesn't have ps2 port [Asus P5Q] , both usb keyboard and mouse
[03:38] <charles__> hi magdalena ...............
[03:39] <intrader> Gnea: with the computer's trackpoint I can make the trailing icon appear readily. I am switching between the chat and firefox. When I click on the firefox button at the bottom of the screen and linger a bit, a large firefox icon appears and then trails the mouse preventing any other action until I right click. On the USB, once the icon start moving along with the mouse it detaches and disappers on its own into the firefox bottom wind
[03:39] <Gnea> intrader: maybe there is a bug with synaptics
[03:39] <siavashserver> charles__: let me restart and boot with 2.6.31-r14 to see what happens
[03:40] <intrader> Gnea: what is synaptics? Pardon my ignorance!
[03:40] <charles__> siavashserver  I would swap another hard drive with Ubuntu on it and see if mouse works
[03:40] <greezmunkey> intrader: have you already checked you accessibility settings to be sure that nothing there is turned on?
[03:40] <Gnea> intrader: it is the driver used to control the mouse pad
[03:41] <Gnea> intrader: does the problem happen with the livecd?
[03:41] <intrader> greesemunkey: tell me more, the only thing I have done is play with the mouse preferences.
[03:41] <intrader> Gnea: yes also with the live CD
[03:42] <charles__> oh sure .... change yer name !!!
[03:42] <intrader> gnea: synaptics - have learned something new, thanks
[03:42] <cyrilo>  is there a way to change the font color of the date indicator and slides counter on a beamer presentation? I've tried changing several items with \setbeamercolor successfully but this issue in particular I still can't.
[03:42] <Gnea> intrader: try installing gsynaptics package, it will put a system->preferences->gsynaptics to configure the mouse more
[03:43] <intrader> Gnea: where do I do that?
[03:43] <rafaelsoaresbr> can someone connect to my proxy server please?
[03:43] <Gnea> intrader: open a terminal from accessories and type:  sudo apt-get install gsynaptics
[03:44] <Gnea> intrader: it should allow you to turn the trackpad on/off in the mouse settings
[03:44] <siavashserver> charles__ : everything is ok here [2.6.31-14]. sounds like gdm problems
[03:44] <siavashserver> or something isn't configured
[03:45] <charles__> siavashserver  yes not hardware prob them
[03:45] <uvacav> anyone know a good tool to use to make an iso from a cd (not burn to a cd)
[03:46] <pirate> How can I remove the pulse audio from 9,10 and install an alternative?
[03:46] <Gnea> pirate: an alternative what?
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> uvacav, "cat  /dev/cdrom >> cdrom.iso" is an easy way
[03:47] <pirate> Well the problem is currently my audio drivers do not support a programI want to run
[03:47] <intrader> Gnea: it says: "E: Package synaptics has no installation candidate". Apparently no synaptics around. Did you see my comment in the post about GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS?
[03:47] <Gnea> intrader: gsynaptics, not synaptics
[03:47] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9: can you in turn loop/chain mount that iso? That would be a cool experiment :)
[03:48] <charles__> siavashserver  did you do  .... sudo apt-get update ... and then .... sudo apt-get upgrade?
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, sure why not?
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> !iso
[03:48] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9: I think I'll give it a try ;)
[03:49] <siavashserver> charles__ : just updated the linux kernel, headers and gcc through Update Manager
[03:49] <intrader> Gnea: I saw your typo and corrected it. I used " sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[03:49] <randomusr_> is there an alternative front end to base?
[03:49] <siavashserver> charles__ : and a few gnome bits : splash,...
[03:50] <siavashserver> charles__: not a full update
[03:50] <grendal_prime> no$gba emulater starts the roms ok..but then says the data is corrupt. kinda suckky
[03:50] <mikelifeguard> What's the name of the tool that's like traceroute and ping rolled into one?
[03:51] <Gnea> mikelifeguard: tracepath
[03:51] <xangua> grendal_prime: try visualboy
[03:51] <charles__> mikelifeguard ...... mtr
[03:51] <vikramanita> how does one edit the boot order of the GRUB2 menu? Installing for family member, and they want Windows as the default
[03:51] <mikelifeguard> charles__++;
[03:51] <h00k> !grub2 | vikramanita
[03:51] <lotus> hey I have a broken package in apt.  I run apt-get purge package-name and it goes (I edited /var/lib/apt/info/unrar-free.prerm and added "exit 0" on the line follwing set -e)  but I can't reinstall the package.
[03:51] <grendal_prime> xangua...for the ds?
[03:51] <charles__> mikelifeguard ...... mtr  ...... do mtr 4.2.2.2
[03:51] <siavashserver> vikramantia : open /boot/grub.conf
[03:52] <xangua> ooh, then desmume; works for me :)
[03:52] <grendal_prime> it does nothing for me
[03:52] <xangua> grendal_prime*
[03:52] <Gnea> charles__: nice, didn't know about that one
[03:52] <grendal_prime> just blank screens
[03:53] <siavashserver> vikramantia : /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:53] <mikelifeguard> Gnea: yes, very nice
[03:53] <grendal_prime> im running it on laptop with nvidia video...pretty decent machine i play games like savage2 on it with no trouble.
[03:53] <wyclif> Hi all, is xubuntu an allowed topic in here?
[03:53] <lotus> sorry I got dropped.  Did anyone respond to the issue regarding the broken package?
[03:53] <xangua> grendal_prime: well then buy a ds :); or update demume 0.9.5 u have
[03:53] <vikramanita> siavashserver: grub.conf has nothing in it
[03:53] <grendal_prime> xangua: you use the packaged version or you compile it from scratch
[03:53] <xangua> wyclif: there is a #xubuntu channel
[03:54] <siavashserver> vikramantia : sorry , /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:54] <intrader> Gnea: I am plugging the USB back on the OLPC XO. I have a problem the touchpad there.
[03:54] <charles__> vikramanita install the startup manager ..... sudo apt-get startupmanager
[03:54] <grendal_prime> xangua: i have 2 dses.  they are for my kids..but i would like to screen the games i get them first.
[03:54] <xangua> grendal_prime: i obtained the lates version from getdeb; or it was playdeb¿¿ some of that 2 repositories
[03:54] <wyclif> xangua: it's not specifically #xubuntu related
[03:54] <siavashserver> vikramanita : sorry , /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:54] <Gnea> intrader: you can also turn the touchpad off in the bios
[03:54] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9: heh, pretty cool :)
[03:55] <vikramanita> charles__: thanks... easy to use?
[03:55] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, :)
[03:55] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, bet you didn't know cat was so powerful
[03:55] <charles__> yes it shows up on the menu
[03:55] <siavashserver> vikramanita : have you found it?
[03:55] <aetr> hey
[03:55] <aetr> xubuntu no good
[03:55] <aetr> who is from england here?
[03:56] <vikramanita> siavashserver: thanks, but I'm going to go the easy way and try Charles' suggestion of using startupmanager
[03:56] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9: I've used it for some pretty cool things in the past, but not that!
[03:56] <aetr> i wanna install a version of windows xp via usb
[03:56] <xangua> aetr: this is #ubuntu, not #windows
[03:56] <wyclif> I just tried installing Karmic on an IBM T40 laptop that I was running the full Ubuntu Karmic on successfully, but now I've got a broken system and right now I'm running off the live CD trying to get help; I cannot now boot from the HDD
[03:56] <aetr> xangua hahaha
[03:56] <aetr> ok
[03:57] <aetr> i wanna install showaveplayer
[03:57] <vikramanita> charles__: thanks a lot
[03:57] <aetr> in xubuntu
[03:57] <aetr> what can i do?
[03:57] <charles__> np
[03:57] <xangua> vikramanita: using grub 2¿¿ it wont work
[03:57] <aetr> i need play pool
[03:57] <aetr> youi know
[03:57] <siavashserver> vikramanita : no problem
[03:57] <aetr> with some argies
[03:57] <ZykoticK9> !enter | aetr
[03:57] <vikramanita> xangua: it won't?
[03:57] <aetr> ?
[03:57] <xangua> vikramanita: no, startupmanager only works with grub 1
[03:58] <charles__> vikramanita install the startup manager ..... sudo apt-get startupmanager   works in 9.10
[03:58] <aetr> ok let me write in peace
[03:58] <switch10_> charles__: you forgot install...
[03:58] <aetr> giveme the answer
[03:58] <aetr> dont rule me
[03:58] <vikramanita> haha, well I'll try it charles__
[03:58] <powertool08> xangua: StartUp-Manager ver 1.9.12-1 works with GRUB 2, however some of the options available with Grub Legacy have not yet been incorporated to work with Grub 2.
[03:58] <wyclif> I cannot even boot into recovery mode; I get an error stating "device not found", when I press Enter I'm back at the grub menu
[03:58] <vikramanita> thanks guys, be back if there's still problems
[03:58] <charles__> vikramanita install the startup manager ..... sudo apt-get install startupmanager   works in 9.10  yes thanks
[03:58] <aetr> Argentina 4 England 0
[03:58] <aetr> hahaha
[03:58] <Pici> !ot | aetr
[03:58] <xangua> powertool08: i will check that, thanks
[03:58] <aetr> pici?
[03:59] <aetr> come on
[03:59] <randomusr_> does anyone know what Canonical plans for future releases of Open Office from Oracle?
[03:59] <powertool08> xangua:Found it here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager
[03:59] <Pici> aetr: This is a support channel, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other chatting.
[03:59] <aetr> i wanna installa showave player in xubuntu how to do it that?
[03:59] <wyclif> so right now I'm running off the Live CD trying to figure out why I can't boot from my HDD
[03:59] <Pici> aetr: There is no shockwave for Linux.
[03:59] <aetr> with wine?
[03:59] <aetr> no good?
[03:59] <aetr> (_)_)
[04:00] <aetr> (_)_)\]]]]D
[04:00] <tsimpson> aetr: stop that
[04:00] <intrader> Gnea: sorry I am confusing you. I got the USB from the OLPC XO (Borrowed it). I need it back on the OLPC XO. By the way is the driver of the synaptics the correct one?
[04:00] <randomusr_> Pici; search for shockwave in synaptic
[04:00] <aetr> tsimpson ok
[04:00] <aetr> can i use wine?
[04:00] <mIrKaT> (_x_)
[04:00] <aetr> for simulate showave?
[04:00] <aetr> or install internet explorer on wine?
[04:00] <wyclif> anybody good with boot issues?
[04:00] <tsimpson> aetr: if you install a browser like firefox in wine, probably yes
[04:00] <h00k> mIrKaT: That applies to you, also.
[04:00] <aetr> i will try
[04:00] <randomusr_> wyclif, yes I put mine on every day
[04:00] <pirate> How can I switch off the spashscreen you get when booting Ubuntu?
[04:01] <Gnea> intrader: should e
[04:01] <mIrKaT> ( . )( . )
[04:01] <Gnea> intrader: should *be
[04:01] <mIrKaT> my eyes
[04:01] <aetr> the last time i try with firefoxx but they dont work sucessfully
[04:01] <wyclif> randomusr_: hahaha
[04:01] <Linux> I Am Having Trouble With My Desktop View
[04:01] <MobiusJedi> wyclif: I've had them, but ended up wiping the drive and reinstalling
[04:01] <randomusr_> wyclif, what's the issue?
[04:01] <Gnea> I was about to implement /ignore
[04:01] <aetr> now i wil try installing windows internet explorer
[04:01] <aetr> ok guys
[04:01] <aetr> thanks anyway
[04:01] <randomusr_> Linux; no you're not, I can see desktop view just fine
[04:01] <aetr> tsimpson,
[04:01] <randomusr_> ;)
[04:01] <aetr> pici
[04:02] <MobiusJedi> aetr: look into winetricks
[04:02] <aetr> ye ye i answer my self the question
[04:02] <randomusr_> woops
[04:02] <intrader> Gnea: I looked it up in Web and it is correct driver. However, apt-get does no find it. How do we determine which is the correct one?
[04:02] <randomusr_> fun night here
[04:02] <charles__> pirate install splash sceeen in synaptic package manager
[04:02] <wyclif> randomusr: I installed Karmic on an IBM t40, but now I cannot boot from the HDD or even from recovery mode, right now I'm running off the live CD; when I try to boot from grub I get a "device not found" error and upon pressing Enter I'm dumped back to the grub menu
[04:03] <randomusr_> wyclif; is that a used pc?
[04:03] <jo908> hola alguien que me pueda ayudar????
[04:03] <wyclif> randomusr_: no it's an IBM thinkpad laptop
[04:03] <jo908> es que no tengo sonido en mi laptop
[04:03] <h00k> !es | jo908
[04:03] <hiexpo> !es
[04:03] <pirate> xsplash?
[04:03] <charles__> wyclif I install karmic on a t40 and it works fine
[04:03] <jo908> pero solo me pasa en ubuntu
[04:03] <randomusr_> wyclif; how old?
[04:03] <intrader> Gnea: this gets confusing - what is *be? and how did you switch to red ink?
[04:04] <pirate> if I remove it will it list the processes at boot instead?
[04:04] <Gnea> intrader: I meant to say 'be' not 'e'
[04:04] <wyclif> charles__: yes, and I know Karmic will install on this model
[04:04] <hiexpo> !es \ jo908
[04:04] <aya> hy
[04:04] <jo908> no tengo sonido en mi laptop pero solo me pasa en Ubuntu??????
[04:04] <randomusr_> wyclif, how old is it?
[04:04] <xangua> !es > jo908
[04:04] <Capt_Blackwood> Evenin lads
[04:04] <IdleOne> jo908: tienes que entrar en el canal en español. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[04:04] <wyclif> randomusr_: not sure but I'm guessing 4-5 years
[04:05] <intrader> Gnea::)
[04:05] <randomusr_> wyclif, are you the original owner? Has it run Windows fine?
[04:05] <Gnea> intrader: don't know what you mean by 'red ink', maybe it is when someone talks direct to you like this
[04:05] <wyclif> randomusr_: it's run *everything* fine before
[04:06] <charles__> pirate install splash sceeen in synaptic package manager ... gnome-splashscreen-manager
[04:06] <randomusr_> wyclif; you shold burn an iso of system rescue cd and check the hard drive, and maybe run memtest
[04:06] <Dezine> I installed Ubuntu (after windows 7), it recognized windows during the install but it's not in the boot manager.
[04:06] <wyclif> randomusr_: I ran memtest a few minutes ago, also tried using help on the CD, maybe I will have to bust out the Knoppix later?
[04:06] <randomusr_> wyclif, also, you may want to attempt installing Karmic with the alternate cd
[04:06] <andruk> why does nautilus do this: http://img101.imageshack.us/i/screenshotmusicfilebrow.png/ ?
[04:07] <charles__> wyclif ... do memtest and hard drive test from drive manufacture
[04:07] <wyclif> randomusr_: alternate CD?
[04:07] <intrader> Gnea: my ignorance shows; I have seen your responses as starting with my login in red, and the rest in black. How do you talk direct?
[04:07] <red2kic_> Hello World! I know this -- Minimal-ISO + Server-ISO enlists you with tasksel option.  Does Alternative-ISO do the same?
[04:07] <wyclif> charles__: I've already done those, no errors
[04:07] <randomusr_> charles; I think it's a bios setting issue, as he states it's generally in good condition
[04:07] <red2kic_> !tab | intrader
[04:08] <charles__> hmmm...
[04:08] <randomusr_> !alternate | wyclif
[04:08] <h00k> intrader: your IRC client hilights your nick in red
[04:08] <Gnea> intrader: just like we're doing right now
[04:08] <intrader> Gnea: sorry, I see my mistake.
[04:08] <red2kic_> intrader: By using your nickname in the dialogue, you (the client) will receive highlighted messages.
[04:08] <Pici> red2kic_: no, it does not.
[04:08] <Gnea> intrader: no problem. :)
[04:08] <viktor> new comer from ubuntu
[04:08] <xangua> andruk: because you installed antivirus and other plugins
[04:08] <red2kic_> Pici: Much thanks.
[04:09] <andruk> xangua: ah, thanks!
[04:09] <greezmunkey> laters
[04:09] <wyclif> randomusr_ here's a question: when I set my BIOS settings to boot from the CD, after I eject the disc and reboot do I have to reset BIOS to "boot from HDD"
[04:10] <maco> intrader: you figured it out. just say the person's name
[04:10] <randomusr_> wyclif, no as long as the cd is out. This is more of a convenience feature than overall functionality
[04:10] <wyclif> randomusr_: for some reason I can't reset the boot order in BIOS settings
[04:10] <charles__> wyclif ... you can try .... install on another computer to get setup .... then use gparted to copy to the laptop drive and see if it works
[04:11] <tumenjargal> where is the symfony-project irc?
[04:11] <tumenjargal> know it?
[04:11] <randomusr_> charles_; i don't think that's an option for this one. Maybe the Alternate cd is the way to go
[04:11] <tumenjargal> or php developers irc?
[04:12] <lisandro> hii
[04:12] <lisandro> from argentina
[04:12] <randomusr_> tumenjargal, i thought symphony died
[04:12] <ubuntu> can a live cd use an existing swap partition on the harddisk?
[04:12] <charles__> randomuser ... I do this all the time and it works
[04:12] <Pici> tumenjargal: ##php  , but you'll need to register/identify to join
[04:12] <Pici> !register | tumenjargal
[04:12] <lisandro> i need help with atheros ar5007g
[04:12] <charles__> randomuser ... I do this all the time and it works  you do have to reinstall grub though
[04:12] <necrogami> Can anyone help me with my route table? It's screwed up and i can't get to the system from outside the local network.
[04:13] <mac_linux> Hello everybody...I had ubuntu fully installed on my powerbook g4 1.33 GHz.  I took it off because my cpu would go to 100%, fans would go on, and it would shut down.  This doesn't happen apparently with the Ubuntu LiveCD.  Any ideas as to what is wrong?
[04:13] <randomusr_> charles_; ok then
[04:14] <randomusr_> necrogami, this isn't network support but what's up?
[04:14] <intrader> Gnea: what can be done about testing the problem I have? The 'mouse preferences' definetely shows a behavior difference with the click on the lamp.
[04:14] <ubuntu> mac_linux, try top comand
[04:14] <ubuntu> mac_linux, also there is a powersaving app called watts or something
[04:14] <mac_linux> right now, it shows Xorg on top
[04:15] <ubuntu> mac_linux, is xorg using the most cpu time?
[04:15] <Losha> ubuntu: I don't see why you couldn't edit fstab and then use the swapon command to make use of a swap partition (or swap file) while running the live cd...
[04:15] <mac_linux> right now, on LiveCD, cpu is only at 1% or so.
[04:15] <mac_linux> It is working fine now.  What could change between install and the LiveCD?
[04:15] <CloudLevi> ---Who knows how I can message a cellular phone using a Linux program?
[04:15] <rafaelsoaresbr> http://pastebin.com/r23gAqT7 Can you take a look at my squid.conf? I'm trying to enable authentication. take a look at lines 21-25, 54 and 56.
[04:16] <ubuntu> mac_linux, did you run system updates?
[04:16] <mac_linux> At one point, I did notice that python was running at 96% or so, for a few seconds.
[04:16] <wyclif> randomusr_: I forgot to mention that it's xubuntu not standard ubuntu
[04:16] <randomusr_> CloudLevi, maybe skype could do that?
[04:16] <xangua> !powerpc > mac_linux
[04:16] <mac_linux> Not yet.  Last time I did it, it shut down.
[04:16] <Losha> CloudLevi: google voice lets you send sms messages to cellphones from a web page, if that helps...
[04:16] <ubuntu> mac_linux, well the live cd is the same until you run pdates
[04:16] <CloudLevi> Randomusr_: Yes, but it costs money
[04:16] <necrogami> randomusr_: it's something to do with the static ip in ubuntu I changed my network from gateway of 10.0.0.254 to 10.0.0.1 my interfaces file has been changed but i still can't get to the box (when passed through nat on my Cisco Router)
[04:17] <CloudLevi> Losha: Anything that can tie into Empathy?
[04:17] <randomusr_> CloudLevi, sorry everything isn't free
[04:17] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: yeah google works well for that but not all providers/countries are covered
[04:17] <ubuntu> mac_linux, use top to see what is hoging the cpu
[04:17] <jones> anyone here who can help me get my fn keys working? They dont seem to work. microsoft usb wireless keyboard.
[04:17] <CloudLevi> IdleOne: Verizon USA.
[04:17] <mac_linux> That's what I figured...puzzling.
[04:17] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: yup and I do it from google mail
[04:18] <mac_linux> sorry...I can't see your private mesage ubuntu
[04:18] <Losha> CloudLevi: no idea, doubt it. Google wants you on their web pages so you can read their ads...
[04:18] <CloudLevi> IdleOne: Can I use it with Empathy?
[04:18] <randomusr_> necrogami, um yea, why did you do that?
[04:18] <ubuntu> mac_linux, i dont think i pmd you
[04:18] <CloudLevi> Losha: ...*Facedesk* Wheee
[04:18] <The_Journey> why does Lucid Lynx hang so much?
[04:18] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: don't think so
[04:18] <h00k> The_Journey: Lucid discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[04:18] <IdleOne> !lucid | The_Journey
[04:18] <necrogami> randomusr_: I switched from My Netopia (ADSL2 Modem) To Comcast Business Cable -> Cisco 2621XM Router
[04:18] <The_Journey> lol sorry
[04:18] <CloudLevi> IdleOne: Google Talk work?
[04:19] <Name141> Hello, I have a computer I took away from a minor and put in my room.  I'm loading Ubuntu on to it.  Would it be possible to setup her a user on it, and let her load her MP3 and stuff like that but without access to FireFox or any other web browser?
[04:19] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: try it :)
[04:19] <tumenjargal> help
[04:19] <Name141> MP3 player*
[04:19] <CloudLevi> IdleOne: Cross your fingers, I'm at my wit's end...
[04:19] <randomusr_> necrogami, is the gateway 10.0.0.1 correct? did you forward the appropriate ports? did this work in the past?
[04:20] <switch10_> Name141: sudo apt-get purge firefox will remove the browser
[04:20] <necrogami> randomusr_: yes and yes
[04:20] <charles__> name141 .... just disable internet
[04:20] <tumenjargal> #php
[04:20] <mac_linux> Oh well, I'll try again some other time.
[04:20] <Name141> charles__: Would that still let her access the MP3s on my computer/the rest of the network ?
[04:20] <randomusr_> necrogami, did it work in the past?
[04:20] <necrogami> yes
[04:20] <Name141> charles__: or would that also disable the whole network ?
[04:21] <lyhana8> hi, my wired connection is "unmanaged" on kubuntu while it's working on windows
[04:21] <lyhana8> any idea ?
[04:21] <intrader> Gnea:I put the USB back. The scrolling problems are there with it but less severe, except for a new bad behavior. When it is in the mode of tracking the mouse, I can click any where in the buttons in bottom of the window or anywhete. I have to stop the scrollbar by clicking on the scroll button with the right mouse
[04:21] <charles__> name141 ....  disable internet all networking
[04:21] <randomusr_> necrogami, it's definitely something in the router
[04:21] <necrogami> randomusr_: no
[04:21] <xangua> not without knowing the wifi driver lyhana8
[04:21] <necrogami> randomusr_: its not
[04:21] <Name141> charles__: That wont work cause the MP3s are on my computer, plus she might want to do OpenOffice and need printing on the computer in the living room
[04:21] <randomusr_> necrogami, how do you know?
[04:21] <necrogami> randomusr_: when i change the ip port 80 is pointing at .. to my windows desktop it works.
[04:22] <lyhana8> xangua wired not wifi
[04:22] <Name141> I assume just removing FireFox would be the best bet?
[04:22] <Name141> She wouldn't have my login.
[04:22] <hiexpo> Name141, just change password on modem so she don'tknow it to log into it
[04:22] <vips> Hi all. I am new here
[04:22] <randomusr_> necrogami, are you attempting to get to your apache home page?
[04:22] <IdleOne> Name141: create a user without sudo privs and remove firefox but that will also remove it entirely preventing you from having a browser
[04:22] <switch10_> Name141: that would be the easy way..
[04:22] <necrogami> randomusr_: lighttpd but yes.
[04:22] <Name141> hiexpo: There is no password on the modem.
[04:22] <charles__> name141 ....  go to users and disable the unwanted access ... such as internet
[04:22] <xangua> lyhana8: sorry; did you recently edited some boot files¿
[04:23] <necrogami> when i access it from 10.0.0.5 i can access the page.
[04:23] <hiexpo> Name141, put one on it
[04:23] <randomusr_> necrogami, can you pastebin your network file?
[04:23] <Name141> hiexpo: I can not make any changes to the modems settings
[04:23] <necrogami> randomusr_: interfaces?
[04:23] <Name141> hiexpo: It's a HN7000S
[04:23] <randomusr_> sure
[04:23] <vips> where can I ask silly questions about python programming?
[04:23] <hiexpo> on sec let me see
[04:24] <viking667> hey there. Got a question ... I'm trying to rearrange grub onto another disk that I will then make into the first drive in the system. Currently it's the second disk. Does grub support a UUID option? (1.x)
[04:24] <IdleOne> vips #python
[04:24] <viking667> I haven't got grub2 in the system.
[04:24] <CloudLevi> IdleOne: won't authenticate.
[04:24] <queso> Is there a difference between `sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade` and `sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade` ?
[04:24] <lyhana8> xangua, not me but my grub menu have been changed since I started my usb disk
[04:24] <vips> join #python
[04:24] <Pici> !register | vips
[04:25] <switch10_> queso: yes update updates sources.list, upgrade upgrades packages.
[04:25] <necrogami> randomusr_: http://pastebin.com/HxcNjG7V
[04:25] <intrader> Gnea: something curious. Now that the USB is back, the computer's trackpoint and mouse seem much better. However, all the bad behavior is now in the USB. This looks like the is a stack of listeners and the USB changed position when I unplugged before and the plug it again.
[04:25] <Losha> queso: but between apt-get and aptitude there are no important differences....
[04:25] <xangua> lyhana8: you mean you have new kernels¿¿ then try with the previous one
[04:25] <queso> switch10_: my question is in reference to the difference between apt-get and aptitude
[04:25] <queso> Losha: thx
[04:25] <IdleOne> queso: the differences between apt-get and aptitude are small
[04:26] <queso> Losha, IdleOne: why are there two different commands, then?
[04:26] <switch10_> queso: they are 2 different package managers.  use whichever one you want
[04:27] <Losha> viking667: grub1 supports UUID...
[04:27] <lyhana8> xangua, any way to check what is wrong first ?
[04:27] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, i used to think so too - i still prefer apt-get (BUT under a development release, "aptitude safe-upgrade" is crucial)
[04:27] <IdleOne> queso: aptitude is a front end to apt-get and handles dependencies a little differently but basically they do the same job
[04:27]  * isaac_ namastes
[04:27] <switch10_> i prefer apt-get as well...
[04:27] <randomusr_> necrogami, pastebin the output of route
[04:27] <queso> IdleOne: ooh, aptitude is ncurses, apt-get isn't
[04:27] <CloudLevi> idleone: and the client won't work through WINE either
[04:27] <Name141> oh yes, how would I also install SSHd so I can just SSH to the machine and not have it's monitor on?
[04:28] <fvr> plasa irc. com
[04:28] <Losha> queso: at one time, aptitude was said to be better at managing dependencies, but people deny even that claim now. It's not uncommon to have more than one app to do the same thing in a slightly different way...
[04:28] <switch10_> Name141: install open ssh
[04:28] <Name141> switch10_: OK.
[04:28] <intrader> GNea: Sorry, I guess my supposition maybe wrong. Something is very dynamic here. The USB is back to normal after being erratic for a while.
[04:28] <isaac_> With Transmission bit torrent client, when the internet connection is interrupted you have to pause and restart your torrents to get them running again.  Is there any way to get Transmission to start downloading again any time the internet connection comes back up?
[04:28] <necrogami> randomusr_: http://pastebin.com/P42FbC1C
[04:28] <CloudLevi> IdleOne: No matter what I do it's not authenticating. No proxy, I tried CloudLevi, CloudLevi@Live.com, and CloudLevi@gmail.com ...nothing
[04:28] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: edit your contacts info in gmail and add the phone number then when you click on the persons name in your contact list it will give you an option to SMS. This is all offtopic for this channel btw
[04:29] <Name141> Any possible way to get the display better ? The video card is an old VooDoo 3DFX 8MB
[04:29] <queso> Losha: thx for the explanation
[04:29] <CloudLevi> idleone: No, I can't sign in period... =/
[04:29] <hiexpo> Name141, are you doing this do to over usage issues?
[04:29] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: don't know what to tell you
[04:29] <Name141> hiexpo: over who?
[04:30] <Name141> Oh
[04:30] <Guest94052> Hey guys, I have a quick question... Is there an NeXT emulator of any sort that can run on Ubuntu, preferrably without WINE? Google seems to think not...
[04:30] <Name141> hiexpo; no, I'm doing it cause of uh.. 44 year old men stalking her
[04:30] <Out_Cold> i just fell in love: http://freshmeat.net/articles/the-antidesktop
[04:30] <legOS> a
[04:30] <legOS> ada yang dari indonesia?
[04:30] <h00k> !ot | Out_Cold
[04:31] <hiexpo> Name141, are you cutting the minor off the internet due to over using it downloading to much   / i noticed a lot of people are having issues with hughes net over that
[04:31] <randomusr_> necrogami, where's your local network broadcast?
[04:31] <hiexpo> oh ok
[04:31] <Name141> hiexpo: No, she's not FAPing us
[04:31] <Gnea> intrader: read this? it's some old info but might be able to help debug.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:31] <Name141> hiexpo: She's just using it improperly
[04:31] <hiexpo> oh ok
[04:32] <necrogami> randomusr_: ?
[04:32] <Name141> Usually the only time we get FAPed is when I forget to cut my downloads off at 6 AM
[04:32] <Name141> and I forgot how much daily bandwidth we have used
[04:32] <lyhana8> when I do a `ifconfig` I got only lo, my wiRED card isn't showned
[04:32] <intrader> Gnea: a test that always fails. In the 'Mouse preferences' click repeatedly at a one second rate. With the USB we never miss blicking the light. With the computers mouse, sometimes we miss one mroe more clicks (more than one second)
[04:32] <Guest94052> Guys, I'd hate to "bump" my question back down, but it would be appreciated if I could get an answer on this one.
[04:32] <hiexpo> well just create a guest account with no Internet
[04:33] <switch10_> Guest94052: what is your question?
[04:33] <randomusr_> necrogami, lok at this http://pastebin.com/RRRaBkwK
[04:33] <Guest94052> My question was, "Hey guys, I have a quick question... Is there an NeXT emulator of any sort that can run on Ubuntu, preferrably without WINE? Google seems to think not..."
[04:33] <Losha> Guest94052: it's an obscure question, and the chances of someone knowing about something that google hasn't heard of seems small...
[04:33] <necrogami> randomusr_: okay?
[04:34] <Guest94052> Losha: I see. Well then, thanks for replying anyways, I suppose I'll have to look elsewhere. Bye.
[04:35] <hiexpo> google is just a search engine it only knows what we put into it
[04:35] <randomusr_> necrogami, create  a line similar to the second line in mine but use the appropriate network
[04:35] <necrogami> link-local?
[04:37] <WLMFF7> hi
[04:37] <WLMFF7> hi
[04:38] <IdleOne> !hi | WLMFF7
[04:38] <randomusr_> necrogami, I think the issue is more related to your router or software firewall, highly doubt an issue with the route table
[04:38] <kaushal> hi
[04:38] <kaushal> has anybody tried openvas on ossim ?
[04:38] <WLMFF7> hi hi
[04:38] <randomusr_> Alas, I'm going to watch tv and then off to bed
[04:39] <WLMFF7> can someone help me
[04:39] <necrogami> randomusr_: the router config came off a working setup before (was previously used when i had ATT Uverse) Came out of a working enviroment
[04:39] <WLMFF7> ??
[04:39] <IdleOne> WLMFF7: only if you ask
[04:39] <WLMFF7> ok how we can run the interface
[04:40] <WLMFF7> im new to this so sorry
[04:40] <IdleOne> WLMFF7: interface to what?
[04:40] <WLMFF7> like eth0 or wlan0
[04:41] <techhelper1> what do you want to do with it
[04:41] <techhelper1> is it wireless or wired
[04:41] <WLMFF7> wireless
[04:41] <techhelper1> was it detected by ubuntu automatically
[04:41] <techhelper1> ?
[04:42] <techhelper1> you should see an icon about wireless at the top bar middle to the right
[04:42] <WLMFF7> no there nothing apper when i do airmon-ng
[04:42] <PhotoJim> I've got the dreaded update-alternatives corrupt nmblookup file problem.  any ideas?  not much help on google.
[04:42] <techhelper1> your card might not support monitoring
[04:42] <WLMFF7> is not compatible ?
[04:43] <techhelper1> might not? idk
[04:43] <WLMFF7> humm ok i have other question
[04:43] <tumenjargal> where is the symfony-project irc?
[04:43] <hiexpo> WLMFF7, what card is it ?
[04:43] <tumenjargal> help help
[04:43] <mossy> Oh wow, lots of people in here
[04:43] <tumenjargal> symfony-project irc?
[04:43] <mossy> hey guys :)
[04:43] <WLMFF7> let me see 2 sec
[04:44] <tumenjargal> ok tnx
[04:44] <hmw> "partimage" tells me on the bottom of the screen, that CtrlQ and CtrlS are Pause/Resume. To cancel the operation, it tells me to press [* - I can't figure out, what that means. What do I have to press in order to close the program in a controlled way? I don't want to kill it
[04:44] <techhelper1>  join #symfony
[04:44] <kennyjb402> how do I edit my grub menu, what command would I use?
[04:44] <tumenjargal> other?
[04:45] <tumenjargal> php development
[04:45] <WLMFF7> is a broadcom 802.11g or a realtek
[04:45] <aya> may i introduce my self?
[04:45] <Losha> aya: no need, simply ask a ubuntu question....
[04:46] <hiexpo> WLMFF7,  - need model and version number to tell you
[04:46] <WLMFF7> ok let me see
[04:46] <techhelper1> just type your question here
[04:46] <necrogami> tumenjargal: learn to use google. ##php is the freenode php channel
[04:46] <hiexpo> WLMFF7, ok
[04:46] <tumenjargal> ok
[04:47] <kennyjb402> how do I edit my grub menu, what command would I use?
[04:47] <hiexpo> !grub2
[04:47] <Guest20664> im-switch -s fcitx
[04:47] <Guest20664> No system wide default defined just for locale C .
[04:47] <Guest20664> Use "all_ALL" quasi-locale and set IM.
[04:47] <Guest20664> Using '/etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/fcitx' to provide 'xinput-all_ALL'.
[04:47] <FloodBot4> Guest20664: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:49] <ehc> my /var is completely filled up. is there a quick way to see what is causing it?
[04:49] <WLMFF7> is a realtek RTL8102E/RTL8103E Family PCI-E Fast ethernet (NDIS6.20) i think is that
[04:50] <hiexpo> WLMFF7, ok let me see one minute
[04:50] <flodine> does anyone use pan for binarys?
[04:50] <WLMFF7> ok thanx
[04:50] <techhelper1> wlmff7 that is an ethernet card
[04:50] <techhelper1> ethernet = wired
[04:51] <WLMFF7> idk is wireless i can connect to my rooter idk
[04:51] <Losha> flodine: I did once, but there is a bug in pan which makes it hang for large binaries, so I use klibido instead....
[04:51] <WLMFF7> ok
[04:52] <flodine> Losha is kilbido for gnome or kde
[04:52] <Losha> flodine: klibido is a kde app, but you can install and run it under gnome...
[04:53] <grendal_prime> hey
[04:53] <grendal_prime> i have a dell mini that has 804 on it
[04:53] <WLMFF7> how i can know the name of my wireless card ??? anybody knows?
[04:54] <flodine> Losha so it will get large binaries cause pan wont
[04:54] <grendal_prime> i want to upgrade it to 910, thing is this is dells little deal with canonical. Like they have there own repo and all that.
[04:54] <fixxxermet> I have an intel mobile graphic 4 chipset.  what is the appropriate driver to install?
[04:54] <Losha> flodine: I've had no problems with klibido and large binaries. Your mileage may vary....
[04:55] <grendal_prime> how would i go about the upgrade in that situation?
[04:56] <azlon> how can i list my connected drives?
[04:56] <hiexpo> WLMFF7, type this in terminal
[04:56] <hiexpo> sudo lshw -C Network
[04:56] <WLMFF7> ok
[04:58] <hiexpo> what is the wireless
[04:58] <WLMFF7> the card ?
[04:58] <hiexpo> yes
[04:58] <WLMFF7> idk where we can see that ?
[04:58] <hiexpo> what are the results in terminal
[04:59] <azlon> i just connected an old 500GB drive that was part of a RAID. i now want to format it and use it as normal. how can i list all my drives, even the ones that are not formatted?
[04:59] <WLMFF7> ok its say
[04:59] <synical> azlon: fdisk -l
[05:00] <hiexpo> top line description is wireless nest is card
[05:00] <synical> thats a lowercase L
[05:00] <WLMFF7> *-network
[05:00] <WLMFF7>        description: Ethernet interface
[05:00] <WLMFF7>        product: 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE]
[05:00] <WLMFF7>        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
[05:00] <WLMFF7>        physical id: 8
[05:00] <FloodBot4> WLMFF7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:00] <WLMFF7>        bus info: pci@0000:00:08.0
[05:00] <hiexpo> should just tell me the card number don't flood
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> azlon, synical you need to use "sudo fdisk -l" to see anything
[05:01] <synical> ah, yeah forgot ubuntu, i normally sudo su
[05:01] <synical> just so i dont have to keep typing it
[05:01] <ryankrizan>  Does anyone know how to use 'du' to display files and folders that are above 1gb?
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> synical, the Ubuntu way to do that is to use "sudo -i"
[05:02] <WLMFF7> sorry where we can find the card number
[05:02] <hiexpo> WLMFF7, pastbin the output do u know how to pastbin
[05:03] <WLMFF7> nope
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> !paste
[05:03] <WLMFF7> im really new to this
[05:03] <WLMFF7> sorry
[05:03] <datz> !apology
[05:03] <datz> accepted
[05:04] <hiexpo> WLMFF7, go to that link and paste the output of the command i gave you and paste it than copy the link and come and past it herefor me to see the link so i can look at it
[05:04] <WLMFF7> ok
[05:05] <WLMFF7> i type the command ?
[05:05] <WLMFF7> in shell ?
[05:05] <Out_Cold> ryankrizan, still looking?
[05:05] <Out_Cold> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-large-files-linux/
[05:05] <grendal_prime> can i dist upgrade from 804 to 910?
[05:06] <datz> grendal_prime: after upgrading to the ones inbetween
[05:06] <Out_Cold> grendal_prime, not to 9.10 but once 10.04 is released yes
[05:06] <xangua> grendal_prime: no you can't, but you can from lts to lts
[05:06] <hiexpo> WLMFF7, yes the same command as before than copy it again and go to the pastebin link and paste it there and click post it will refresh copy the link and past that here
[05:07] <grendal_prime> so the 29th ish?
[05:07] <grendal_prime> ill just wait tell then
[05:07] <ryankrizan> Out_Cold, Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
[05:08] <Out_Cold> ;)
[05:09] <dotnetted> If I installed an app manually (asterisk-1.6.2.2) is there a way to let the Synaptic package manager know + check for updates?
[05:09] <WLMFF7> sorry what is pastebin ?
[05:09] <xangua> dotnetted: you mean compile¿ no
[05:09] <Out_Cold> !pastebin > WLMFF7
[05:10] <hiexpo> thanks Out_Cold was refreshing my coffee see it's gonna be a long night
[05:11] <Out_Cold> lol well it's only 22:11 here.. I'll be up here for a while
[05:11] <greenlantern> hi,is ubuntu 8.04 dead? is apt-get availabe on ubuntu 8.04?
[05:11] <Out_Cold> greenlantern, yes it's still availabl
[05:11] <Out_Cold> e
[05:11] <hiexpo> Out_Cold,  - 21:11 here
[05:12] <hiexpo> Out_Cold,  - ca
[05:12] <xangua> greenlantern: as an LTS it has 3 years of support for desktop version and 5 for server
[05:13] <necrogami> ugh i hate this.
[05:13] <Out_Cold> hiexpo, i'm ca(nada) :p
[05:14] <hiexpo> Out_Cold,  - no i am
[05:14] <yxz97> I need remove vim
[05:14] <yxz97> and install vim-full
[05:14] <yxz97> please some coach !
[05:15] <azlon> ZykoticK9: will fdisk -l also list drives connected via USB that are not formatted?
[05:15]  * datz calls on the Internet 
[05:15] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get purge vim
[05:15] <Out_Cold> azlon, it should at least say the hdd block
[05:15] <datz> apt-get install emacs
[05:16] <azlon> Out_Cold: thanks
[05:16] <Fudge> anyone know anything about squashfs file systems?
[05:17] <Out_Cold> azlon, fdisk is used to find a disk before partitioning, so it would read sd{a-e} then you could partition with mkfs.*
[05:17] <Out_Cold> **sorry partition with fdisk, format with makefs
[05:17] <Out_Cold> mkfs
[05:18] <Out_Cold> it's late lol
[05:18] <racerd> silentdis
[05:18] <azlon> Out_Cold: hrmm... fdisk didn't find the drive i connected via USB. i guess i can just shut down and connect it to a SATA port
[05:18] <Out_Cold> oh maybe no one's paying attention
[05:18] <racerd> dyss?
[05:19] <racerd> where are you?
[05:19] <Out_Cold> azlon, first check with dmesg
[05:19] <scunizi> azlon: try sudo fdisk -l
[05:19] <racerd> <---- cataklysm
[05:19] <azlon> Out_Cold: its 7:00 am here... i get what you're saying ;)
[05:19] <Out_Cold> azlon, oh yes sudo first
[05:19] <SilentDis> hello :)
[05:19] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all, does anyone here know of a program that can monitor ATI GPU usage / temp, etc?
[05:19] <racerd> what up silentdis
[05:19] <Out_Cold> David-T, look into conky
[05:19] <racerd> so what do i need to do
[05:20] <SilentDis> DavidJHeinrich: doesn't the ATI driver come with one?  I know Nvidia does
[05:20] <SilentDis> DavidJHeinrich: I should say, the binary blob driver
[05:20] <intrader> Do the 'General Help' forum administrator remove messagea? I had a message and can't find it anymore.
[05:20] <SilentDis> racerd: hello :)
[05:20] <grendal_prime> hey is there an upgrade manager to the beta?
[05:20] <Out_Cold> David-T, something like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205865
[05:20] <xangua> !lucid > grendal_prime
[05:20] <racerd> silentdis: what up? so what do i need to do?
[05:20] <SilentDis> !beta | grendal_prime
[05:20] <Out_Cold> David-T, you can configure it however you like.. ati temps usage, disk usage and so on
[05:21] <SilentDis> stupid ubottu :P
[05:21] <SilentDis> !lucid | grendal_prime
[05:21] <DavidJHeinrich> SilentDis: Yea, I ave the binary blob driver, but I don't see such a prog
[05:22] <SilentDis> stupid net connection >.<
[05:22] <intrader> Sorry, you all, the message just moved. I wish I could pin it so I could watch what is happening with it.
[05:22] <Name141> I got Ubuntu installed on that machine,but the floppy light is staying on for some reason.  Is there anything I can do about that?
[05:22] <yxz97> thanks !
[05:22] <SilentDis> racerd: first off...
[05:22] <Name141> Besides disconnect the floppy drive.
[05:22] <SilentDis> !pulse | racerd
[05:23] <scunizi> Name141: you have a floppy disk? unplug it.. :)
[05:23] <racerd> that is the default ubuntu driver right?
[05:23] <scunizi> Name141: oops.. you mentioned not to mention that.. sorry
[05:23] <SilentDis> racerd: just for the sake of keeping up with convos, preface lines to me with my name (silentdis), it beeps my client if i'm not watchin' :)
[05:24] <scunizi> racerd: to save your fingers type the first few characters then hit the TAB key.. it'll typically auto complete
[05:24] <SilentDis> racerd: from my understanding, there's a touch of configuration needed for it on Ubuntu, it seems to work a lil better for me with kubuntu... but i have a bunch of extra packages installed for it as well
[05:24] <Name141> LOL
[05:25] <SilentDis> scunizi: thanks, I'm kinda just 'used to' that stuff, forget that most people won't remember it lol
[05:25] <racerd> silentdis: i wished i could use kubuntu, but my login screen is bugged :(
[05:25] <scunizi> SilentDis: what part.. TAB?
[05:25] <SilentDis> scunizi: yeah, the <tab> dealy.  it's just second nature to me, not something folks 'just know', and i gloss over it.  thanks :)
[05:26] <scunizi> np :)
[05:26] <racerd> silentdis: so what configs do i need to do
[05:26] <azlon> how can i find out how big a folder is? in windows i could just right click on the folder and click properties..
[05:26] <SilentDis> racerd: no prob.  i'm reading through the !pulse page now.  one moment.
[05:26] <azlon> nm, i got it... i was looking in the wrong spot
[05:27] <SilentDis> racerd: `sudo apt-get install asound-gtk` - then system > prefs > default sound card and make sure "pulse audio" is selected
[05:27] <maslen> Could someone reccomend a distro of ubuntu for a P3, that's a "real" isntall, not just DSL, but lighter/smaller than ubuntu/xubuntu ?
[05:28] <gotaquestion> hello
[05:28] <SilentDis> for everyone else:  i'm helping racerd setup pulse audio properly, to use mangler (linux vent client) and play wow at the same time :)
[05:29] <albech> maslen: lubuntu?
[05:29] <SilentDis> maslen: I think debian (the root of ubuntu) has a very light version.  I ran server with enlightenment for a while, as well.
[05:29] <scunizi> maslen: lubuntu I think it's called.. lxde windows manager.. or just install server and add "X" or do everything from the terminal.. quite an adventure..
[05:29] <intrader> Please, I need help with the problem with 9.10 UI unresponsiveness reported in the 'General Help' forum as http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1459701. I need to know where xorg.conf resides in order to try a change.
[05:29] <racerd> silentdis: it errors cannot find package asound-gtk
[05:29] <gotaquestion> can I create a partition to install XP and then install ubuntu in space left?
[05:29] <SilentDis> !dualboot | gotaquestion
[05:30] <gotaquestion> i want to format and use some GB for XP and the rest for ubuntu
[05:30] <scunizi> intrader: xorg.conf is typically empty on the releases from 9.10 on.. video is controlled by xrandr .. if you think it the display driver there are other options there.
[05:30] <SilentDis> racerd: my mistype.  `sudo apt-get install asoundconf-gtk`
[05:30] <scunizi> intrader: if you want to look at xorg it's typically at /etc/X11/
[05:30] <intrader> Gnea: you let go of the issue?
[05:31] <damagu> Hey all. I have a macbookpro and have dual boot with Ubuntu 9.10. I only use mac os for a couple of audio editing programs and I'd prefer to not have to reboot into mac os to use them. Does anyone know if it's possible to use a mac os guest virtual machine in an ubuntu host?
[05:31] <intrader> scunizi: xrandr?. what is this. I will look in /etc/X11/
[05:31] <Gnea> intrader: not sure what else to suggest, other than find someone else who has an 8200 and see what they suggest
[05:31] <hiexpo> Out_Cold,  - how does the whois work in here ?
[05:32] <scunizi> !xrandr | intrader
[05:32] <Gnea> scunizi: the onboard mouse to his dell laptop is malfunctioning
[05:32] <racerd> got it installed
[05:32] <racerd> silentdis: it's installed
[05:32] <scunizi> Gnea: who's? intrader 's ?
[05:32] <Gnea> scunizi: yes.
[05:32] <Out_Cold_> hiexpo: you might want /ns info nick
[05:33] <SilentDis> damagu: I wish.  virtualizing Mac OS X has been the 'holy grail' for a while, they restrict the crap out of such things as that :P.  I've not seen a good 'solution' to it in a long time, outside of compiling direct for X rather than the WM mac uses... but that's not possible except for FOSS software :(
[05:33] <Out_Cold_> whois shows ip info as far as i know
[05:33] <scunizi> Gnea: ah.. not video.. missed the first part of the conversation.. sorry intrader .. thought it was video related.
[05:33] <gotaquestion> Do I need to resize Windows partition before installing ubuntu or can I select the space for it?
[05:34] <hiexpo> Out_Cold,  - ok
[05:34] <intrader> ubottu: are there user configurable thing?
[05:34] <SilentDis> racerd: now, System > Prefrences > Default Sound Card
[05:34] <crucialhoax> How do I set a picture for my login screen?
[05:34] <SilentDis> racerd: "PulseAudio" should be the default sound card.
[05:34] <damagu> SilentDis: yeah I tried searching around the net for something about it but can only find people saying it's illegal because you can only run mac os on macs etc. But I have a mac and I have the original disks not a copy. So it should be completely legal for me.
[05:35] <Gnea> scunizi: that's what I thought at first, too. seems that 9.10 doesn't properly detect the synaptic correctly or something
[05:35] <Out_Cold_> crucialhoax: i think it's been removed from 9.10+
[05:35] <scunizi> intrader: whatever you put in xorg.conf will apply to your system.. so if you know how to edit it for what you need go for it.. after you have to restart X to make it take effect
[05:35] <intrader> Gnea: is there a way to escalate this?
[05:36] <crucialhoax> Out_Cold_: So it has to stay that little outline of a human torso?
[05:36] <SilentDis> damagu: it has nothing to do with 'legal' or 'illegal', except that Apple likes you pidgen-holed into their stuff, exclusively.  it is, after all, YOUR computer.  but, that's how they threaten, cajole, and force folks that are working on it out of their research, so nothing gets done :(
[05:36] <damagu> SilentDis: completely legal unless... there's something about it in the EULA of course. :D
[05:36] <gotaquestion> Do I need to resize Windows partition before installing ubuntu or can I select the space for it?
[05:36] <crucialhoax> Out_Cold_: I am talking about a user picture.
[05:36] <brando753> is there any way to connect a ti84 silver to ubuntu i cant seem to get tilp to work
[05:36] <racerd> silentdis: not wanting to launch
[05:36] <Out_Cold_> crucialhoax: i'm not sure what the log in screen is, i use gnome
[05:36] <Out_Cold_> ** i don't use
[05:37] <damagu> SilentDis: Yeah but the thing is I am actually using their machine and their OS and their software. I just want to do it from within Ubuntu.
[05:37] <mdel> damagu: its a technical limitation... not a legal one as mentioned
[05:37] <SilentDis> damagu: exactly.  you are now 'virtualizing' it.  therefore, running it on a 'different' machine, and so here comes the lawyers with their DMCA notices.  welcome to a brave new world of stupidity :P
[05:38] <SilentDis> damagu: we have always been at war with eurasia, we've always been allies with oceania.
[05:38] <SilentDis> damagu: ;)
[05:38] <Name141> scunizi: I rehooked up the network and it's working now
[05:38] <Name141> explain that one :-/
[05:39] <scunizi> Name141: I'm lost.. or forgot what we were talking about.. but I'm glad it's working
[05:39] <Gnea> intrader: we don't really 'escalate' here, as we're not paid... you've made the post to the forums already, that's good, but maybe you could update it with the information you now have that helps pinpoint the problem
[05:39] <damagu> SilentDis: Stupidity is the exact word for it. Oh well. Guess I have to keep rebooting until the free software audio editing software improves. I wish I could code because I'd love to help improve it. Anything I can do now to help is arbitrary really.
[05:39] <SilentDis> racerd: run it from a prompt. `gksudo asoundconf` i believe
[05:39] <Name141> scunizi: Floppy
[05:40] <SilentDis> damagu: I found a couple nicer tools in my searches... let me see here...
[05:40] <scunizi> Name141: AH! .. I wonder why the network had something to do with it.
[05:40] <SilentDis> damagu: Audacity is one, i believe...
[05:40] <damagu> SilentDis: Yeah I'
[05:40] <zbanks> Is there some sort of garbage collection I can run? Apparently 900MB of my memory is being used (*not* counting caching) but a list of processes estimates that only 400MB of memory should be used. This effect seems to always happen when the computer runs for a few days...
[05:41] <Name141> scunizi: Another thing, since I am on the FAP of Hughesnet.  Would it be possible to setup auto check and install updates starting at 1 AM?
[05:41] <SilentDis> zbanks: whoa, something runaway in there.  check out htop, decent little proggy to see what's running.  also, if all else fails, log out of x, and restart it (ctrl-alt-backspace), see if that clears it.  shouldn't need to reboot at least :)
[05:42] <HFactor> hi all,  where can I get the new official art works as SVG ? I checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official i can find the old design, not the new Ubuntu logo ? I need it for release party
[05:42] <damagu> SilentDis: I've seen and used Audacity. As good as it is, it doesn't come close to the power and functionality available in Logic. Unfortunately, Apple bought Logic and made it mac only so I can't even run it in wine. :(
[05:42] <zbanks> SilentDis: Yeah, restarting X helps, but I don't want to resort to that
[05:42] <racerd> silentdis: not working, some stuff i am running is kubuntu, think that may be what it is?
[05:42] <SilentDis> racerd: no, shouldn't be.  did you at least get an error when you tried to run that command?
[05:43] <intrader> Gnea: that I will do - I know that I wrote it unclearly. I will go over it with the help gleaned from you. By the way I am trying the change in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1365701, but the section is a little different. Will try by commening the original first. Thanks for help. I will post what I find.
[05:43] <racerd> nope
[05:43] <nico1> hello  what is the easiest way to install grub in a pc that has no os?
[05:43] <racerd> silentdis: no
[05:43] <SilentDis> racerd: data data data, i can't make bricks without clay! ;)
[05:43] <damagu> SilentDis: one more reason to hate the existence of proprietary software. Ugh!
[05:43] <SilentDis> racerd: what did happen when you typed in that command?  just go back to the prompt, something pop up?
[05:43] <hiexpo> Out_Cold,  - what happened to our wanna run aircrack-ng / but don't know what pastebin is  lol
[05:43] <racerd> silentdis: i know i know, but it isn't displaying anything just brings up the prompt again
[05:43] <SilentDis> damagu: a song i've been singing since 2006 my friend :)
[05:44] <SilentDis> racerd: crap, i don't have a ubuntu install anywhere... let me see here...
[05:44] <SilentDis> racerd: i'm fully switched over to kubuntu at this point.  lots of stuff the same, little differences here and there lol
[05:45] <damagu> SilentDis: Been about that long for me now too. One day...
[05:45] <HFactor> hi all,  where can I get the new official art works as SVG ? I checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official i can find the old design, not the new Ubuntu logo ? I need it for release party
[05:45] <damagu> SilentDis:  :)
[05:45] <gogeta1> SilentDis: lol
[05:45] <damagu> SilentDis: Thanks for your help anyway.
[05:45] <SilentDis> damagu: yeah, sorry dude :(
[05:45] <racerd> silentdis: i did install some kubuntu stuff trying to get it up, some of the things are running under ubuntu
[05:45] <cesiumfrog> Where should I look for the solution to a Dell laptop webcam (05a9:2640) only intermittently working in ubuntu (fresh 9.10 install+update)?
[05:45] <brando753> is there any way to connect a ti84 silver to ubuntu i cant seem to get tilp to work
[05:45] <zbanks> SilentDis: With htop, what should I look for? I've been using gnome-system-monitor (with view all processes) to get the estimate... is there something specific I should look for with htop?
[05:45] <hiexpo> !webcam
[05:46] <SilentDis> racerd:  you're running Gnome though, and i need to locate the differences to direct ya there
[05:46] <scunizi> Name141: no idea.. actually you could use cron to run a script containing.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. the problem is it has to be run with sudo unintended.. that's the tough part.. not sure how to do that..
[05:46] <intrader> Gnea, how do I quite this chat. I am completely ignorant of the protocol for it.
[05:46] <scunizi> intrader: type /part then /quit
[05:46] <SilentDis> zbanks: htop, and then check mem usage.  F6 (sort by), and choose Mem%
[05:47] <Gnea> intrader: /quit should do. and good luck
[05:47] <nico1> what is the easiest way to install grub in a pc that has no os?
[05:47] <intrader> Gnea: thanks for your help
[05:47] <racerd> silentdis: the icon next to sound device in preferences has a ? next to it
[05:47] <Gnea> intrader: cheers
[05:47] <gogeta1> scunizi: i always used sh scripts
[05:47] <hiexpo> Gena lol
[05:47] <racerd> silentdis: maybe i should reboot
[05:47] <Gnea> hiexpo?
[05:47] <SilentDis> racerd: welcome to linux, you never reboot :)
[05:47] <scunizi> nico1: what would be the poinnt
[05:47] <scunizi> *point
[05:47] <SilentDis> racerd: well, other than kernel updates.  lol
[05:47] <gogeta1> SilentDis: you do for kernel updates
[05:47] <hiexpo> gena - was laughing at him asking how to quit
[05:48] <SilentDis> gogeta1: i said that, just... slowly!  lol
[05:48] <h00k> everyone starts somewhere
[05:48] <nico1> i want to boot form pxe but my pc network card in not capable to do that
[05:48] <nico1> but i cant install grub
[05:48] <nico1> from livecd
[05:49] <gogeta1> nico1 then you have to use a boot disk to start ppxe
[05:49] <SilentDis> racerd: the 'most' you'd have to do is log out of gnome, go to a term (ctrl-alt-f1) log in, and `sudo alsa reload`, then jump back to gnome (ctrl-alt-F7) and log back in
[05:49] <nico1> isn't that possible with grub?
[05:49] <Losha> Name141: scunizi: if you run the commands via cron under root, then you won't need sudo as everything will run as root...
[05:49] <gogeta1> probly
[05:50] <nico1> i'm booting pxe using a cdrom right now
[05:50] <nico1> but it takes longer to read
[05:50] <scunizi> Losha: ah.. forgot there are a couple differnt cron locations.. thanks
[05:51] <zbanks> SilentDis: Thanks for your help. memory still seems to be unaccounted for, but htop found more processes than I saw before
[05:51] <gogeta1> nico1 grub is defently possable as long as you have a hdd to put it on
[05:51] <SilentDis> zbanks: try doing it as root.  `sudo htop` :)
[05:51] <nico1> i do have an hdd
[05:51] <zbanks> SilentDis: Ooh, good idea :D
[05:51] <gogeta1> nico1 then you make a pxe boot partation
[05:52] <racerd> silentdis: well it says something about incomplete
[05:52] <Gnea> hiexpo: what's so funny?
[05:52] <nico1> what do you mean with 'pxe boot partition'?
[05:52] <SilentDis> !pastebin | racerd
[05:52] <SilentDis> racerd: give me the error :)
[05:52] <SilentDis> racerd: or the screenshot of what you see, please
[05:52] <gogeta1> nico1 its a small partation same thing your cd does loads the nedded drivers
[05:53] <nico1> if i copy my cd's files to the hdd it should boot?
[05:54] <gogeta1> nico1 dunno there
[05:54] <rodrigoooo> hola
[05:54] <SilentDis> racerd: I need to take off man, Avatar Blu-Ray awaits, and I can't wait to rip it *snicker*
[05:55] <SilentDis> general statement to the MPAA: haha, i can watch blu-ray on linux, suckers! :D
[05:55] <racerd> *sigh* i wished everything didn't get so jacked up for me
[05:56] <SilentDis> racerd: if anything, there WILL be 10.04 LTE coming out in... oh... 9 days. ;)
[05:56] <gogeta1> nico11 the guids say a syslinux cd will copy to a fat partation
[05:56] <racerd> silentdis: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/racerd/.gvfs
[05:56] <racerd>       Output information may be incomplete.
[05:56] <racerd> /sbin/alsa: Warning: Processes using sound devices: 1795(pulseaudio).
[05:56] <racerd> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-rawmidi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-seq-device snd-hda-codec-idt snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-hwdep snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc (failed: modules still loaded: snd-hda-codec-idt snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-hwdep snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc).
[05:56] <racerd> Loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-rawmidi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-seq-device snd-hda-cod
[05:56] <FloodBot4> racerd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <SilentDis> !pastebin | racerd
[05:56] <racerd> lol
[05:56] <exploit100> can i use wget tool for download ubntu latest version?
[05:56] <scunizi> exploit100: sure
[05:57] <SilentDis> racerd: use the pastebin.  please.
[05:57] <racerd> silentdis: will i have to reinstall the OS? it does support iphone right?  i need to update the os to 4.0
[05:57] <nomnex> Need to untar a bunch of .tar.bz2 archives at once. {$ tar -xjvf *.tar.bz2} or {$ tar -xjvf '*.tar.bz2'} are bad commands, what's the good one?
[05:57] <exploit100> but i need to resume many time for my light problem
[05:57] <nmvictor> i just placed some .jar files in /usr/share/java where i initially had other .jar file from certain installations, I need to change permissions of the .jar files i just placed their without affecting the initial ones, anyone know how I could use timstamp in conjunction with chmod a+rwx to achieve this?
[05:57] <SilentDis> racerd: you will NOT need to reinstall going from 9.10 to 10.04.  that's a direct-line upgrade path, and will go very smoothly.  I upgraded 9.04 to 9.10 without a single hiccup.
[05:58] <got_a_question> I have XP installed but I want to install it again on a 15GB partition. Then install Ubuntu. Can I do this?
[05:58] <crucialhoax> nomnex: Try getting rid of the - before xjvf
[05:58] <tumenjargal> help
[05:58] <exploit100> scunizi, will it any problem ?
[05:58] <SilentDis> racerd: if you want it 'day of' release, though, i do recommend grabbing the alternate CD torrent, and upgrading that way (there'll be full instructions when it is released) :)
[05:58] <nmvictor> got_a_question: i dont see a prob wit that
[05:59] <SilentDis> racerd: the servers get REALLY flooded with everyone upgrading, using the CD takes some stress off the servers, and lets you get going faster :)
[05:59] <got_a_question> nmvictor Will ubuntu use all the other GB?
[05:59] <powertool08> got_a_question: I'd use gparted to shrink its partition to 15 gb and avoid a reinstall, unless you just want to reinstall.
[05:59] <racerd> silentdis: huh i will try that suppose....
[05:59] <nomnex> crucialhoax, same output: Not found in archive
[05:59] <GSF1200S> while this is a very crude mock up, dont you all think this is a more effective way to utilize space on rhythmbox?
[05:59] <GSF1200S> http://img7.imageshack.us/i/screenshotee.png/
[05:59] <got_a_question> powertool08 i want to reinstall
[05:59] <scunizi> exploit100: no.. but you'll need the link to give to wget.. if you are on cli only then elinks or w3m are cli browsers you can use and download from that.
[05:59] <tumenjargal> me
[05:59] <nmvictor> got_a_question: would help if you told me about your HD size
[05:59] <powertool08> got_a_question: ok, go for it then.
[05:59] <SilentDis> racerd: I've been running 10.04 on a VM for a while, it boots insanely fast, and looks like it 'just works' more often than not at stuff i throw at it :)
[05:59] <got_a_question> +500 GB
[05:59] <SilentDis> racerd: hell, i installed mangler on the vm, and was able to talk... to myself.  lmao
[05:59] <got_a_question> :P
[05:59] <nico1> well..thanks gogeta1 but i thougt it was simpler i will try sth diff.. thank you very much:)
[06:00] <nmvictor> got_a_question: then exactly what do you want to do?
[06:00] <got_a_question> I will use ubuntu as primary system
[06:00] <got_a_question> and xp for playing.
[06:00] <maweki> Hey Guys, when's the ReleaseCandidate coming out? I'm at GMT+1 and it's allready the 22nd here
[06:00] <gogeta1> nico1 well looks like grub can do it to
[06:00] <SilentDis> take care all, gonna go buy Avatar on blu-ray, and show the MPAA their encryption stuff sucks by playing it on linux.  see ya! :D
[06:01] <brando753> is there any way to connect a ti84 silver to ubuntu i cant seem to get tilp to work
[06:01] <got_a_question> SilentDis lol
[06:01] <nico1> yes...i'll try to install it...
[06:01] <exploit100> scunizi, you mean if i use same link every time then will it not be croupt?
[06:01] <nmvictor> got_a_question: please include my nick, im not glued to the screen so i might miss your replies
[06:01] <rafaelsoaresbr> maweki, 29th
[06:01] <got_a_question> nmvictor sorry
[06:02] <nico1> the main problem is that i can't chroot to do 'update-grub' in the partition
[06:02] <scunizi> exploit100: no.. just that you need the link
[06:02] <nico1> with the 9.10 livecd
[06:02] <maweki> rafaelsoaresbr, the ReleaseCandidate. It's scheduled for today, but WHEN?
[06:02] <Name141> One other thing I noticed it's doing is instead of shutting down, it's saying "System Haulted"
[06:02] <nmvictor> got_a_question: but with a 500 Gb, their is no limit to what you can install, anyway why do you want to install XP again, thought I read something like "I have XP installed"
[06:03] <exploit100> scunizi, thanks
[06:03] <Name141> And I can hear the hard drive clinck off and all that
[06:03] <vivekraghuwanshi> hi
[06:03] <Name141> but it doesn't actually turn off the whole system
[06:03] <Out_Cold_> Name141: what is running to make you think it's on?
[06:03] <got_a_question> nmvictor 15GB for XP and rest of space left for ubuntu as primary system.
[06:03] <znxtch> Is there a way to test my system security to see what kind of personal information people can "probe" for.
[06:03] <znxtch> ?
[06:04] <Name141> Out_Cold_: The power supply, lights, etc
[06:04] <shadeslayer> hi i cant seem to launch the gnome application launcher with Alt+F2
[06:04] <nmvictor> anyone know how id use timestamps to act on certain newer files in a directory without affecting the older ones
[06:04] <got_a_question> nmvictor because right now i use xp as primary and ubuntu is installed as a program..
[06:04] <Out_Cold_> Name141: is it in suspend? what's th eissue?
[06:04] <shadeslayer> how do i launch it? also how do i restart the gnome panels?
[06:04] <exploit100> scunizi, how can i configure web site in ubuntu os?
[06:04] <racerd> silentdis: i want this crap stuff to work
[06:04] <Name141> Out_Cold_: It doesn't actually turn the machine off, I have to press the power button
[06:05] <Out_Cold_> Name141: tried sudo halt?
[06:05] <scunizi> exploit100: sudo tasksel .. then choose LAMP.. html files go in /var/wwww
[06:05] <Name141> Out_Cold_: Er?
[06:05] <DavidJHeinrich1> is there a way to dynamically overclock the CPU in Linux such that it overclocks for high-intensity tasks?
[06:05] <Name141> Out_Cold_: I go to restart and it restarts without this issue.
[06:05] <nmvictor> got_a_question: no prob with that, the ubuntu installer is so newbie-freindly, it wont ruin anything if you dont tell it to, but before you fully insall ubuntu be sure to uninstal it in XP, i once helped a friend fix a prob with that
[06:06] <gogeta1> DavidJHeinrich1: well if its a laptop it does that aruldy
[06:06] <Losha> znxtch: you could start by running the tests on http://www.grc.com/
[06:06] <Name141> Out_Cold_: but if I go to shutdown, it just sits there
[06:06] <dugger5688> DavidJHeinrich1: install it on a laptop that supports CPU scaling.
[06:06] <Name141> Out_Cold_: Till I press the power button
[06:06] <DavidJHeinrich1> dugger5688: I have a desktop
[06:06] <gogeta1> DavidJHeinrich1: or a pc that supports those modes also would
[06:06] <scunizi> Name141: might be an ACPI thing.. you might need to disable acpi on the kernel line for boot..
[06:06] <DavidJHeinrich1> dugger5688: with a Intel Q9550
[06:07] <dugger5688> Then probably no.
[06:07] <mdel> wow... broadcom driver still suck :(
[06:07] <Name141> scunizi: how is that done?
[06:07] <exploit100> scunizi, is ok?
[06:07] <DavidJHeinrich1> ahh, ok
[06:07] <DavidJHeinrich1> thanks
[06:07] <mdel> wireless STILL keeps dropping out
[06:07] <scunizi> exploit100: y
[06:07] <dugger5688> Why do you care if it scales, just let it run at stock/
[06:07] <Out_Cold_> mdel: try installing wicd
[06:07] <mdel> Out_Cold_: googleing....
[06:07] <rafaelsoaresbr> maweki, join #ubuntu+1
[06:08] <got_a_question> nmvictor i will uninstall ubuntu from xp and then reinstall xp. my doubt is: can i erase the current partition (500gb) and create the new one (15gb)?
[06:08] <racerd> silentdis: i used those links.... hmmm what do i do with it
[06:08] <scunizi> Name141: you can test it when you boot .. get the grub menu up and push F6.. at the end of the kernel line (only one presented I think) before quiet splach .. add acpi=off
[06:08] <Out_Cold_> mdel: sudo apt-get install wicd will do the trick. it's like network-manager but python based. n-m always drops my wifi too so i use wicd instead
[06:08] <mdel> Out_Cold_: do you know of a supported device list?
[06:08] <gogeta1> got_a_question: you can resize without erasing
[06:09] <mdel> Out_Cold_: or is it just the manager?
[06:09] <Out_Cold_> mdel: for ubuntu or wicd?
[06:09] <zeroseven0183> Does the Ubuntu Manual project/team have a separate channel?
[06:09] <mdel> Out_Cold_: wicd
[06:09] <scunizi> Out_Cold_: mdel I've also found wicd it the only one that will let you graphically set a static ip for the machine. N-M doesn't
[06:09] <Name141> scunizi: er uh ?  There is no GRUB menu I don't guess.  XP is no longer installed on the machine.
[06:09] <Out_Cold_> mdel: it's a big script so it used base tools already on ubuntu
[06:09] <mdel> Out_Cold_: ah ok
[06:09] <got_a_question> gogeta1 I want to erase it.. I can use dban's quick erase right?
[06:09] <mdel> thanks ill give it a shot
[06:10] <got_a_question> gogeta1 or can i do it just with xp cd?
[06:10] <hasibullah> Hello how are you all i have a question that how to work with dialup connection my modem is not supported
[06:10] <gogeta1> got_a_question: well if you wanna secury erase it a simple repartion would be mutch quicker
[06:10] <jnuetron> how to install JAVA in ubuntu from synaptic package Manager
[06:10] <gogeta1> securly
[06:10] <scunizi> Name141: you always have grub even without xp. hit ESC on boot or I saw someone say hold shift on boot.
[06:10] <hasibullah> is there any software to use my modem
[06:10] <jnuetron> how to install JAVA in ubuntu from synaptic package Manager
[06:10] <jnuetron> anyone there help
[06:10] <exploit100> scunizi, can i pm you for details?
[06:10] <jnuetron> how to install JAVA in ubuntu from synaptic package Manager
[06:10] <gogeta1> got_a_question: you could use anyy of the installers to reformat
[06:11] <scunizi> jnuetron: sudo apt-get install sun-jave6-jre
[06:11] <scunizi> jnuetron: in synaptic.. search for sun-jave
[06:11] <scunizi> *java
[06:11] <jnuetron> i'll try scunizi
[06:11] <zeroseven0183> jnuetron: It's alos good to install Java from the Ubuntu Software Center
[06:12] <zeroseven0183> jnuetron: You can also install Java from the Ubuntu Software Center
[06:12] <Out_Cold_> scunizi: iirc nm allows static ip setup.. it's just in some random tab or something
[06:12] <scunizi> exploit100: better to read docs..
[06:12] <oldmerovingian> Can someone please tell me where to get the 64 bit flash installer script?
[06:12] <oldmerovingian> Or a script?
[06:12] <jnuetron> thanks zeroseven0183
[06:12] <scunizi> Out_Cold_: I found that random tab.. but I could never get the new ip to stick through boots..
[06:12] <crucialhoax> oldmerovingian: I have one that might work...
[06:12] <Out_Cold_> scunizi: yea that was a different story
[06:13] <got_a_question> gogeta1 Can I erase the current partition with XP cd?
[06:13] <jnuetron> oldmerovingian : open youtube and select install missing plugins
[06:13] <scunizi> oldmerovingian: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:13] <gogeta1> got_a_question: yea
[06:13] <oldmerovingian> crucialhoax: If you do that would be great.  I tried one and it didnt work and I cant get it
[06:13] <oldmerovingian> Both of those dont work
[06:13] <crucialhoax> oldmerovingian: Ok, one sec.
[06:13] <got_a_question> gogeta1 and then create a 15gb partition
[06:13] <oldmerovingian> If I do flashplugin-nonfree it gives me the 32 bit version and I cant click on the buttons
[06:14] <scunizi> oldmerovingian: if you're using the daily build of FF it will be *very* flakey
[06:14] <gogeta1> got_a_question: never tryed
[06:14] <crucialhoax> oldmerovingian: Make sure you remove any flash from the repo's and use this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/420223/
[06:14] <gogeta1> got_a_question: i always used gparted for that
[06:14] <oldmerovingian> Thanks
[06:14] <crucialhoax> oldmerovingian: Darn. Wait.
[06:15] <Out_Cold_> my daily FF broke... back to 3.5 now
[06:15] <crucialhoax> oldmerovingian: I spelt something wrong.
[06:15] <oldmerovingian> Ok
[06:15] <scunizi> Out_Cold_: me too..
[06:15] <got_a_question> gogeta1 after XP is installed I will install Ubuntu in space left. i think this will work im just afraid of doing something wrong
[06:15] <Out_Cold_> scunizi: flash?
[06:15] <scunizi> Out_Cold_: yep.. and occationally other weirdness.
[06:16] <crucialhoax> oldmerovingian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/420225/
[06:16] <gogeta1> got_a_question: you can make the partation with gparted first
[06:16] <Out_Cold_> i had some random issues too... but loved the persona feature
[06:16] <Out_Cold_> gogeta1: you are doing a live install??
[06:17] <oldmerovingian> crucialhoax: Thanks man
[06:17] <gogeta1> Out_Cold_: im fine lol
[06:17] <crucialhoax> oldmerovingian: No problem :) I hope it works for you.
[06:17] <oldmerovingian> Worse case, I am back where I started
[06:17] <oldmerovingian> :-)
[06:17] <Out_Cold_> oh gogeta1 sorry mate.. totally read that as a question ;)
[06:18] <got_a_question> gogeta1 just like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfl3oViny8 right?
[06:18] <got_a_question> using live cd
[06:19] <gogeta1> got_a_question: you can do that to resising after install
[06:19] <gogeta1> got_a_question: i always use manul mode to set the size i whant
[06:20] <got_a_question> gogeta1 but i dont to resize
[06:20] <got_a_question> *dont want
[06:20] <exploit100> how to configure web site In Ubuntu os so that everyone can brows ?
[06:20] <chiques> Is there an application which allows me to drag files that are greater than 4.7 GB to burn across multiple dvd's?
[06:20] <Out_Cold_> exploit100: apache2
[06:20] <gogeta1> got_a_question: you wanna install inside ntfs?
[06:21] <got_a_question> after install XP using just 15gb i want to install ubuntu in space left
[06:21] <Iszak> How do I (via terminal/synaptic package manager/firefox) upgrade Firefox on Ubuntu 9.10 to Firefox 3.6.x
[06:21] <got_a_question> so i dont need to resize i think..
[06:21] <gogeta1> got_a_question: then you use gparted to make a 15 gb ntfs and then ext3 and swap
[06:21] <scunizi> Iszak: that's the daily build and there's a PPa for that.. however it will break flash
[06:21] <exploit100> Out_Cold_, everyone can brows world wide?
[06:21] <gogeta1> ext4
[06:22] <hunahpu> Iszak: 3.6 is not in the repos and it won't be; there are ways to get it though, PPA, downloading the binary from mozilla
[06:22] <sontek> when is 10.04 releasing?
[06:22] <crucialhoax> April 29
[06:22] <Out_Cold_> exploit100: using apache2 and perhaps dynsdns.org and some correct router settings yes
[06:22] <Iszak> scunizi, how is it a daily build? I thought Firefox 3.6.3 has been out for a while - plus, flash is kinda broken atm doesn't register clicks sometimes.
[06:22] <Iszak> got_a_question, could also use wubi :P
[06:22] <crucialhoax> Maybe, I guess there is some Xorg Server memory leak, hardcore.
[06:22] <tumenjargal> sfWidgetFormInputText(array(),array('title'=>'My title'))
[06:22] <tumenjargal> sry
[06:23] <Iszak> Symfony heh.
[06:23] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Are you using the flash-plugin-installer, from the repos?
[06:23] <scunizi> Iszak: the PPA version (at least the one I used) is considered a daily build.. updates every day.  and by broken flash I don't mean a little I mean totally non functional
[06:23] <Iszak> crucialhoax, err I simply installed it via the missing plugins dialog on firefox - I presume the repo though.
[06:24] <Iszak> scunizi, ah that sucks :/ what about a stable 3.6.3? is that possible?
[06:24] <Iszak> the reason I ask about upgrading is because currently the latest firebug crashes when I access the console.
[06:24] <allu2> Hello, i upgraded my 9.10 to 1.0.4 beta2 and now when i restarted my computer screen just flash light sometimes and stays empty, if i press ctrl+alt+F1 or any other F key screen light turns on but stays empty, i tried to use karmic liveCD to rescue my $HOME but on karmic i crypted it with the ubuntus automatic tools and now livecd can't access it and it gives me that it's not crypted right and therefor cannot be mounted to use :S
[06:24] <Out_Cold_> exploit100: check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8y51yESHyU
[06:24] <crucialhoax> Iszak: That is probably why it is broken. Well, depending on FF version of course.
[06:24] <exploit100> Out_Cold_, Can i use sub domain ?
[06:24] <scunizi> Iszak: not sure.. couple of us here have dropped back to 3.5
[06:24] <got_a_question> goge thats the point of choosing Windows partition size so I don't need to resize
[06:25] <crucialhoax> I am using 3.6.3 in Lucid and Flash works perfect.
[06:25] <Out_Cold_> exploit100: that depends on your dns setup which i think yes you can with http://dynsdns.org
[06:25] <allu2> question is how i get beta2 work or $HOME backed up on other partition on this hd so i can reinstall 9.10
[06:25] <got_a_question> Iszak the point of choosing Windows partition size so I don't need to resize
[06:25] <scunizi> crucialhoax: that's lucid.. karmac is a different story
[06:25] <crucialhoax> scunizi: True...
[06:26] <got_a_question> i dont want gparted messing with windows partition i just want ubuntu to use space left on the disk
[06:26] <crucialhoax> oldmerovingian: Did it work?
[06:27] <Iszak> I've never had any problems with wubi, but whatever your choice.
[06:27] <got_a_question> what wubi does
[06:27] <Iszak> You mean what does wubi do?
[06:27] <crucialhoax> It installs Ubuntu basically as a program inside windows. It does not touch the hard drive or the partitions.
[06:27] <crucialhoax> ubottu: tell got_a_question about wubi
[06:28] <got_a_question> lol
[06:28] <got_a_question> sorry
[06:28] <tumenjargal> lol :D
[06:28] <tumenjargal> :p
[06:28] <Iszak> ubottu: tell iszak about wubi
[06:28] <oldmerovingian> crucialhoax: Yes sir.  Thanks!
[06:28] <got_a_question> crucialhoax i dont to install ubuntu as a program
[06:28] <soreau> got_a_question: Cant you choose manual partition from the live cd installer and partition the part you want?
[06:28] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: It is the easiest way if you are just starting off.
[06:28] <Iszak> nice.
[06:28] <crucialhoax> oldmerovingian: No problem :) glad it worked :)
[06:28] <got_a_question> soreau i dont know yet i will try
[06:29] <Iszak> I'm curious what does ctrl + alt + f5 put ubuntu in? because I use it as a shortcut on windows for notepad.
[06:29] <got_a_question> i didnt try anything yet
[06:29] <scunizi> Iszak: cli.. command line.. in the gui it's know as terminal.. sortof
[06:30] <pusakat> Iszak, you'll probably get a login prompt. it's a virtual terminal in text only mode.
[06:30] <Iszak> scunizi, thought so - how do I get out of it if I accidently go into it?
[06:30] <scunizi> Iszak: actually a TTY I believe is the official term
[06:30] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Ctrl+alt+F7
[06:30] <scunizi> Iszak: ctrl+alt+F7
[06:30] <Iszak> ah okay
[06:30] <pusakat> iszak: alt-f7
[06:31] <Iszak> thank you - but of what use is it?
[06:31] <scunizi> Iszak: F1-6 are tty's.. F7 is always gui
[06:31] <got_a_question> crucialhoax i have already installed ubuntu as a program
[06:31] <got_a_question> :P
[06:31] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Frozen programs in the GUI, bring it to a shell then kill it.
[06:31] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: You are already using Wubi?
[06:31] <got_a_question> not right now
[06:32] <scunizi> Iszak: if you gui doesn't start you can do everything from cli.. google irssi as an IRC program.. just one example of  a terminal based program..
[06:32] <got_a_question> but i use it
[06:32] <Iszak> scunizi, so ctrl + alt (1-6) all put it into TTY? what is TTY?
[06:32] <crucialhoax> Iszak: That is what I use it as at least. It probably has more uses.
[06:32] <geekphreak> hello
[06:32] <got_a_question> hi
[06:32] <crucialhoax> Hola.
[06:32] <Iszak> crucialhoax, oh makes sense I would just restart X :P
[06:32] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: hola :)
[06:32] <crucialhoax> Iszak: No, not really.
[06:33] <geekphreak> got_a_question:  :)
[06:33] <Iszak> it does show a use for it though.
[06:33] <got_a_question> crucialhoax i will uninstall wubi/ubuntu then reinstall XP and then install ubuntu as primary
[06:33] <got_a_question> thats what i wanna do
[06:33] <got_a_question> without resizing windows partition
[06:34] <scunizi> Iszak: what's fun is after you get a little use to linux.. try using the tty for everything you do.. irc, email, browsing the web etc.. it can be done.
[06:34] <allu2> i found error "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[06:34] <allu2> when i try decrypt :(
[06:34] <Iszak> scunizi, I'd rather not :P I'm a GUI lover.
[06:34] <subone> Does anyone know how I can get more than one command listed in the menu when you right click a file in nautilus? As opposed to being under the "Open With" submenu.
[06:35] <Iszak> when will chrom(?:e|ium) be in the standard repo?
[06:35] <allu2> how i can mount this folder that says is not setup correctly :S
[06:35] <scunizi> Iszak: at some point the skills there are good to have.
[06:35] <geekphreak> always good to know your cli :)
[06:35] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: Ok, so you got it all under control?
[06:35] <got_a_question> i hope so
[06:36] <Iszak> scunizi, agreed but I'd prefer to dabble in terminal then full fledged.
[06:36] <hunahpu> subone: install the package "nautilus actions": sudo apt-get install nautilus-actions
[06:36] <crucialhoax> Iszak: It does not kill X, it starts a shell. If you wanted to kill X: Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc
[06:36] <crucialhoax> Iszak: You can also use it to start a whole different desktop. For instance, Ctrl+Alt+F3 might have one desktop, then F6 might be another.
[06:36] <scunizi> Iszak: same either way.. expicially when you can bounce back and forth
[06:37] <got_a_question> crucialhoax i just hope when i reinstall xp i can erase the current partition and choose only a few gb for it
[06:37] <Iszak> crucialhoax, yes I know I was saying that's how I fix unresponsive GUI
[06:37] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Correct.
[06:37] <crucialhoax> Sorry, I misread your response.
[06:38] <Iszak> anyhow, thanks for all your help.
[06:38] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: Not sure, I have not done a Windows install in a looong time.
[06:38] <Iszak> The only thing I dislike about Ubuntu is the lack of newer version support e.g. netbeans, firefox, etc.
[06:38] <hunahpu> got_a_question: I don't remember XP installer having the option to specify the size of a partition, you may want to create a new partitions table with the LiveCD and Gparted
[06:38] <got_a_question> oh ok that sucks
[06:38] <Iszak> hunahpu, it doesn't.
[06:39] <got_a_question> so i will have to use gparted from the live cd?
[06:39] <hunahpu> Iszak: well, a new version is out every 6 months
[06:39] <subone> hunahpu, ty ill take a look at that
[06:39] <Iszak> hunahpu, perhaps but security updates and bug fixes are more often.
[06:39] <hunahpu> got_a_question: yes, I would recommend that; AFTER you backed up all your data, just create new partitions, specify the size of your winXP one and install in it
[06:40] <crucialhoax> Iszak: If you want support for the newest packages, go with Fedora. I believe that distro to be the bleeding edge.
[06:40] <hunahpu> Iszak: you get security updates and bug fixes on (almost) a daily basis. :D
[06:41] <venky10> Hello
[06:41] <hunahpu> Iszak: if getting the latest latest versions of everything, you may want to consider a different (more flexible) distro like gentoo, arch, slackware, etc... there you just need the source code and compile yourself :)
[06:41] <hunahpu> Hello venky10
[06:41] <Iszak> crucialhoax, that is actually my Linux distro but there's nothing that's like wubi for it.
[06:42] <Iszak> hunahpu, hehe I'm not that hardcore ;)
[06:42] <geekphreak> got_a_question:  are you trying to dual boot?
[06:42] <got_a_question> yes
[06:42] <geekphreak> ok good luck
[06:42] <venky10> I had a newbie question. I"m new to programming and I wanted to know why computer programs crash. For example while dereferencing Null pointers
[06:42] <znxtch> Can you run ITunes in WINE under Ubuntu Karmic?
[06:42] <venky10> why can't it just continue on
[06:42] <got_a_question> hunahpu i would like to erase the disk first
[06:42]  * Iszak gasps
[06:42] <Iszak> znxtch, why would you want to?!
[06:42] <hunahpu> znxtch: nope, not the latest versions at least
[06:43] <Iszak> iTunes is the biggest load of kaka I've ever used.
[06:43] <geekphreak> got_a_question: whole disk?
[06:43] <Iszak> iTunes to system resources => NOM NOM NOM, MOAR
[06:43] <hunahpu> got_a_question: when you delete partitions you basically erase the disk :)
[06:43] <got_a_question> geekphreak yes
[06:43] <znxtch> I have an Ipod Touch and I'm screwed
[06:43] <geekphreak> got_a_question:  fdisk bam bam :d
[06:43] <znxtch> Well
[06:43] <znxtch> I'm not screwed
[06:43] <znxtch> I'm just too lazy to reinstall os x on another partition
[06:43] <hunahpu> znxtch: you can install win on a virtual machine
[06:43] <znxtch> just to sync an ipod
[06:44] <got_a_question> hunahpu i want to erase it securely
[06:44] <Iszak> you can't.
[06:44] <Iszak> you've got to destroy it to remove all data.
[06:44] <geekphreak> got_a_question:  there are many apps that can do it, wipe,shread,killdisk,dban , you an use any o them :)
[06:44] <Iszak> even a guttman pass is apparently recoverable.
[06:44] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Oh okay.
[06:44] <hunahpu> got_a_question: when you write new data over, old data will be gone for good; you may use "shred" too I guess
[06:44] <got_a_question> i know that
[06:45] <Iszak> hunahpu, lies!
[06:45] <got_a_question> not.
[06:45] <Iszak> got_a_question, if you want a secure wipe atleast use the guttman process - not 100% from what I've heard.
[06:45] <geekphreak> got_a_question: i wont be worried about it , unless giving drive to someone else, :)
[06:45] <Iszak> agreed.
[06:45] <got_a_question> yes but i wanna try it
[06:45] <hunahpu> Iszak: for general purpose yes... technically even a burned disk can be rescued but I seriously doubt you or anyone here have the equipment to do it....
[06:46] <crucialhoax> dban ftw
[06:46] <got_a_question> crucialhoax how long it takes quick erase in dban?
[06:46] <got_a_question> is it quick? :P
[06:46] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: Over night. At the least. I believe it is like 8 hours.
[06:46] <geekphreak> nothing like a quick erase lol :)
[06:46] <Iszak> hunahpu, yes I should've been specific as to the destruction method :P melt it.
[06:47] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: It writes over the whole platter with 1's and 0's. very hard on an old drive, might break it so I have heard.
[06:47] <allu2> arght!
[06:47] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: Are you that paranoid that the gov might get your songs? haha jk
[06:47] <got_a_question> lol
[06:47] <allu2> i can't access my own files because of encryption and decryption doesn't work :(
[06:48] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: In all seriousness, it will take over night for sure.
[06:48] <Iszak> got_a_question, you shouldn't worry unles as stated by geekphreak you're giving it to someone else.
[06:48] <Iszak> s/unles/unless
[06:48] <got_a_question> but i dont recover files myself
[06:48] <got_a_question> dont want
[06:48] <got_a_question> lol
[06:49] <Iszak> I'd say a couple of write overs will make most recovering programs that are easily accessable unable to recover any data.
[06:49] <Iszak> most programs work because the file hasn't been written over, the file pointer is just removed.
[06:49] <allu2> :(
[06:49] <abhilash> headphones are not working in ubuntu 9.10? speakers are working well, i tried alsamixer, no results, help!!
[06:49] <Iszak> crucialhoax, the over night clean, is that the guttman method?
[06:49] <rahman> Hi, I have forgotten my mySql server root pasword. I need to completely remove it so when I reinstall I can give a new root password but  after a --purge  apt-get install mysql-server 5.1 throws this error:
[06:50] <rahman> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[06:50] <rahman> Any hint?
[06:50] <crucialhoax> Iszak: It is called `autonuke` its a low grade military wipe I believe.
[06:50] <allu2> :(
[06:50] <nsadmin> rahman: please tell me you backed up your databases...
[06:51] <Iszak> crucialhoax, interesting, I haven't heard of it
[06:51] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Dban has a high-level Military wipe, takes forever. Never had to use it though. But if the quick one takes all night, I cant imagine that.
[06:51] <crucialhoax> Iszak: google dban, it has a sourceforge page.
[06:51] <nsadmin> I knew a rahman one time... good guitar player
[06:51] <Iszak> crucialhoax, I've heard of people of just letting their HDD go on a week long wipe :P
[06:51] <Iszak> random sequences
[06:51] <rahman> nsadmin: I have backups so need to completely get rid of it
[06:51] <nsadmin> creative, knew his harmony well
[06:51] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Correct, you can also but dban on a bootable usb
[06:52] <nsadmin> whew
[06:52] <Iszak> crucialhoax, that is epic!
[06:52] <crucialhoax> haha
[06:52] <Iszak> so if the SWAT is knocking at my door, I have five minutes, will it wipe everything? :P
[06:53] <got_a_question> So... I reinstall XP and then from ubuntu live cd I use gparted to resize XP partition and use left space for ubuntu?
[06:53] <crucialhoax> Iszak: It can get started hahaa
[06:53] <allu2> sorry if iam bad user and ask many times the same question and don't have patiance when i have to go in 30 mins but anyone could help me with the problems i said before about decrypting $HOME on liveCD?
[06:53] <nsadmin> Iszak: if swat is at your door, good fricken luck
[06:53] <rahman> can dpkg-reconfigure help to reset my mysql server password
[06:54] <crucialhoax> Iszak: In that case, burn em, or sledge hammer ftw
[06:54] <Iszak> I think I'm pretty secure, I usually do a guttman wipe of empty space every week.
[06:54] <soudesune> thermite packet on top of unit
[06:54] <jjcv> got_a_question:  Yip, that is one approach you can take.
[06:54] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Using what?
[06:55] <Iszak> crucialhoax, what does it matter? not like you can stray from the process.
[06:55] <nsadmin> Iszak: if you piss off swat enough for them to come after you, what you need is not protection of your -data-...
[06:55] <rahman>  dpkg-reconfigure  made the trick thanks
[06:55] <got_a_question> so anyway... XP will use the whole HD to reinstall bah..
[06:56] <soudesune> unsolicited mp5 in back
[06:56] <crucialhoax> Iszak: I meant, what are you using to do it? I am just curious. There is a program for Windows called CCleaner that did that.
[06:56] <Iszak> nsadmin, I wouldn't say I piss them off, I just don't want them finding my data.
[06:56] <Iszak> crucialhoax, and what do you think of it?
[06:56] <nsadmin> if you're thinking about them, you must be attracting them
[06:56] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Simple.
[06:57] <got_a_question> Iszak and crucialhoax how do you securely erase a pendrive?
[06:57] <got_a_question> pendrive or usb card
[06:57] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: Just reformat it, after of course, yo back everything up.
[06:58] <nsadmin> saw an interesting episode of nypd blue where they raided some sex social networking site with a erase-all-data button mounted on the wall...
[06:58] <got_a_question> but you could get data from it anyway
[06:58] <got_a_question> that's why im asking
[06:58] <geekphreak> got_a_question:  you got bank detials on it :p
[06:58] <got_a_question> there must be something like dban for pendrives
[06:58] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: Look, there is no such thing as secure, no matter what. So really, your best bet is just to reformat it.
[06:58] <nsadmin> the kids tried to push it, they didn't make it... after the cops were done questioning them and they were going to leave, the cops hit the button
[06:59] <Iszak> Can I just say one thing - HOT - http://www.datadev.com/hard-drive-destroyer-data-security-mhdd.html
[06:59] <geekphreak> got_a_question: shred it ,
[06:59] <Name141> To get XFCE, all I do is sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[06:59] <soudesune> Just an fyi, if you are caught wiping a drive like that, you will be charged with destroying evidence, regardless of if it is actual evidence.
[06:59] <geekphreak> !info shred | got_a_question
[06:59] <necrogami> How can i go about detecting the serial port that is on my motherboard i did 'dmesg | grep ttyS' and recieved no return grep tty only returns the console
[06:59] <crucialhoax> Name141: That will install the XFCE desktop for ubuntu, if you want just XFCE, that is different.
[06:59] <geekphreak> huh wierd
[06:59] <hunahpu> Name141: that is correct
[06:59] <hunahpu> soudesune: in what country?
[07:00] <Name141> hunahpu: Is there anything else I can use that would be more min on a P2 450 MHz, 10 GB hard drive, VooDoo 3 3DFX 8MB video card?
[07:00] <geekphreak> got_a_question:  got blanks cd's?
[07:00] <venky10> Wanted to know why programs crash upon accessing a NULL pointer? Why can't it just continue on?
[07:00] <hiexpo> lol Iszak
[07:00] <got_a_question> cd-rw
[07:00] <got_a_question> lol
[07:00] <hunahpu> Name141: I don't think Ubuntu nor Xubuntu are right for that computer, you need something ligher; what's your ram?
[07:01] <Name141> hunahpu: 320 MBs
[07:01] <Iszak> hiexpo, to be honest I wouldn't trust the hand crank, but then again if your power is cut then you're screwed.
[07:01] <geekphreak> got_a_question:  google ultimatebootcd.com and get that its like 100 mb , burn and use , it has most you need
[07:01] <got_a_question> btw i burned ubuntu image at 24x on a cd-rw i hope it is good to install
[07:01] <hiexpo> lol
[07:01] <crucialhoax> got_a_question: Should have burnt it slower... IMO
[07:01] <nsadmin> venky10: the programmer didn't realize that a null pointer could reach that point and didn't check for it
[07:01] <got_a_question> i can burn it again
[07:01] <Iszak> crucialhoax, really?
[07:01] <nsadmin> then you'd have a burned-again cd!
[07:01] <geekphreak> crucialhoax:  agreed, slower / better and verify it too
[07:02] <crucialhoax> just check the md5 sum on the cd, if it checks out, you will be fine.
[07:02] <got_a_question> which speed do you recommend
[07:02] <Iszak> MAX
[07:02] <hunahpu> Name141: if you want it to fly, go for a very light distro like Puppy Linux, it may work decent with Arch (not exactly user-friendly install though).
[07:02] <crucialhoax> degh
[07:02] <venky10> nsadmin: But the program can ignore that dereference instruction and move ahead, right?
[07:02] <amayblum> where i can get java .deb file
[07:02] <crucialhoax> 4x
[07:02] <Iszak> To be honest, I always burn on maximum, verify, never have a problem.
[07:02] <nsadmin> a speed the intended drive will do
[07:02] <amayblum> where i can get java .deb file to install Java
[07:02] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Which why I pointed that out, as long as the md5 is fine, dont worry about it.
[07:02] <hunahpu> amayblum: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:02] <Name141> hunahpu: I just basically wanna set the computer up to do something rather than sit around and collect dust is all.
[07:02] <soudesune> Same, Iszak.  burnproof or its alternatives changes the game
[07:03] <crucialhoax> Name141: Might want to try puppy linux or TinyMe.
[07:03] <allu2> huoh
[07:03] <got_a_question> lol i just used alchool
[07:03] <Iszak> I guess not everyone has 100's of CD/DVD's to spare.
[07:03] <Name141> Wasn't there a small KDE desktop too?
[07:03] <necrogami> Name141: FluxBox
[07:03] <hunahpu> Name141: go for Puppy Linux, it's very light and has a friendly GUI; if you have experience you may try a custom installation with Gentoo or Arch
[07:03] <got_a_question> i didnt even verify
[07:03] <Iszak> got_a_question, stop worrying and just do it already.
[07:03] <got_a_question> LOL
[07:03] <soudesune> Iszak: Can I borrow some dvdr DLs?  need some more 360 games. thx
[07:03] <crucialhoax> lol
[07:04] <hunahpu> necrogami: Name141 fluxbox is a windows manager only, not a Distro
[07:04] <geekphreak> Iszak: , you got some spare cd's? , i could use them lol
[07:04] <got_a_question> Iszak need to backup first but I can't do it right now
[07:04] <Iszak> haha, people are always short of CD/DVD's :P
[07:04] <soudesune> so is that a no?
[07:04] <crucialhoax> CD's are so 90's
[07:04] <Name141> I think I'll just install OpenSSH or whatever I need to do to get it to become a 'server' , and just use command lines.
[07:04] <Iszak> got_a_question, maybe you should try wubi/VM ware, you seem to paranoid that it'll screw things up.
[07:04] <Iszak> crucialhoax, yeah that's why I'm not getting blu-ray's.
[07:04] <crucialhoax> haha @ Iszak
[07:04] <hunahpu> Name141: yes, that is a good idea too
[07:05] <got_a_question> Name141 install it and edit sshd file
[07:05] <necrogami> hunahpu: he was looking for something that was lightweight ontop of ubuntu .. fluxbox is that.
[07:05] <nsadmin> venky10: no, basically what happens (this must be C I guess) is the compiler generates machine instructions to take the address contained in the pointer and use it... null pointers are considered special cases and are serious bugs in the program.
[07:05] <got_a_question> change the port
[07:05] <got_a_question> and dont allow root
[07:05] <got_a_question> etc
[07:05] <geekphreak> i dont like wubi :)
[07:05] <Name141> OK.
[07:05] <allu2> anyone want to help me with recovering crypted folder witch gives me error it's not crypted correctly, iam on 9.10 liveCD trying to rescue files from upgrade to 10.04 gone wrong :(
[07:05] <hunahpu> necrogami: with is hardware specs, there is no way Ubuntu will work at a decent speed :(
[07:05] <Name141> All these updates are making me delay my start of watching V on Hulu :-(
[07:05] <nsadmin> some machines detect null pointer dereferences in the cpu, and generate an exception
[07:05] <Iszak> geekphreak, yeah but it's a good way to get a taste of ubuntu and then move, very noob friendly especially for window users.
[07:05] <necrogami> hunahpu: with his specs ... most current OS versions aren't going to run at any decent speed.
[07:06] <geekphreak> allu2:  what error you get when you try to mount that partition?
[07:06] <soudesune> Name141: better hurry up before they go subscription
[07:06] <crucialhoax> necrogami: Puppy, DSL, or TinyMe will.
[07:06] <nsadmin> it would be up to the programmer to arrange to handle that exception
[07:06] <got_a_question> Iszak i've been using ubuntu from wubi but now i will install it from livecd...... im not paranoid
[07:06] <geekphreak> Iszak:  agreed in some way !!
[07:06] <Iszak> got_a_question, if you're not paranoid rm -fr C:/ and go for it
[07:06]  * hunahpu heard tv-links.eu is a nice site.
[07:06] <necrogami> crucialhoax: i said most.
[07:06] <allu2> geekphreak: ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[07:06] <Name141> soudesune: They need to take it off of Tuesday when WWE NXT and Dirtyjobs is on the same time frame as V on ABC
[07:06] <Name141> but that's OT
[07:06] <crucialhoax> Iszak: Really? rm -rf C:\ lol
[07:06] <geekphreak> got_a_question:  you are bit, nothing wrong with it, better safe then sorry :)
[07:06] <soudesune> lol
[07:07] <crucialhoax> necrogami: Understood.
[07:07] <deveros> test
[07:07] <Iszak> crucialhoax, it's meant to mean remove windows :P
[07:07] <Iszak> I could've said rm -fr /
[07:07] <necrogami> crucialhoax: Name141: you might also look into Slackware.
[07:07] <Iszak> blasphemy!
[07:07] <soudesune> deveros: your test just crashed my photoshop
[07:07] <crucialhoax> Iszak: del C:\*
[07:07] <Name141> necrogami: I'll just take it out and shoot it
[07:07] <Iszak> crucialhoax, windows would never allow you to kill it.
[07:07] <venky10> nsadmin: So, basically the program crashes upon NULL references so that it doesn't know that the subsequent instructions depends on the one that caused it a crash.
[07:07] <got_a_question> geekphreak im just like to be sure of what im going to do... and because i need to backup first im here
[07:07] <necrogami> Iszak: i can run rm -rf C:\ on this box.
[07:07] <Name141> It's over 11 years old
[07:07] <Iszak> you'll have to do it via ubuntu :P
[07:07] <libertiy> hi everyone i try to make mysql available from remote 3306
[07:07] <got_a_question> *~i
[07:07] <crucialhoax> haha
[07:07] <necrogami> Name141: Thermite makes for more fun.
[07:08] <geekphreak> got_a_question: fair enought mate, good luck
[07:08] <libertiy> but have no success, firewall is open, ip listening url is set, skip networking disabled, still not be able to connect to mysql
[07:08] <venky10> nsadmin: So, basically, it would rather crash than give false output?
[07:08] <geekphreak> allu2:  was $HOME encrypted?
[07:08] <nsadmin> correct
[07:08] <venky10> nsadmin: Thanks!
[07:08] <nsadmin> rather than belabor the point, I'd like to suggest a reference you can check out if you want to
[07:08] <necrogami> Iszak: one sec ill upload an image
[07:08] <allu2> geekphreak: yes
[07:08] <soudesune> Goodnight everyone
[07:09] <geekphreak> allu2:  then you are gonna have a good time  getting data back,
[07:09] <crucialhoax> Name141: There has to be some use for that old machine.
[07:09] <geekphreak> allu2:  can you boot pc in recovery mood/
[07:09] <DeathShot> hi
[07:09] <Iszak> necrogami, image of what? :S
[07:09] <allu2> geekphreak: i don't think, when i boot it just put screen background light on and nothing happens
[07:09] <geekphreak> libertiy: hello
[07:09] <Name141> crucialhoax: I can't think of anything but make it idle on IdleRPG 'games' on IRC
[07:09] <DeathShot> do any of you know how I can scan my windows partition for viruses via an ubuntu partition of live CD
[07:10] <allu2> geekphreak: i don't see any ubuntu logo or anything
[07:10] <nsadmin> venky10: you can get an old but very good book called "The C Companion" (which is usually meant as a companion to a C primer) by Allan I. Holub
[07:10] <DeathShot> I got avast and AVG for ubuntu
[07:10] <DeathShot> as well as KlamAV
[07:10] <libertiy> hi geekphreak
[07:10] <DeathShot> but non of them see my windows partiotion
[07:10] <geekphreak> libertiy:  check mysql host option for that particular user, if you wana enable remote access , make sure it is set to %
[07:10] <crucialhoax> Name141: Make it an ntp time server. They are looking for more to add to their pool haha
[07:10] <Iszak> Is it just me who's a regex junky and loves linux's ability to regex search files?
[07:10] <nsadmin> it has two very extensive and deep chapters on pointers
[07:10] <allu2> geekphreak: in F7 screen backround flashes on of maybe every 2 sec and on any other F it just stay on but empty
[07:10] <Name141> crucialhoax: I'm on a FAP
[07:10] <libertiy> hmm could you clarify that a bit more please geekphreak ?
[07:10] <hunahpu> allu2: geekphreak if you know what does Ubuntu use to encrypt by default, instlaling it and mounting with its encrypted filesystem, and using your password as passphrase may work
[07:11] <geekphreak> allu2: keep it booting, wait for sometime
[07:11] <got_a_question> im gonna burn ubuntu again at 4x and verify
[07:11] <^_^_> Hello World
[07:11] <crucialhoax> Name141: FAP? I am no good with acronyms lol
[07:11] <necrogami> Iszak: http://photo.necrogami.com/ls.png
[07:11] <allu2> geekphreak: tried no change after 10 mins
[07:11] <Name141> crucialhoax: Fair Access Policy , for Hugeshnet
[07:11] <Iszak> necrogami, yeah was meant to be a linux command.
[07:12] <necrogami> ;)
[07:12] <hunahpu> got_a_question: run a md5sum check to your iso file before burning
[07:12] <Iszak> perhaps don't take it so seriously next time.
[07:12] <crucialhoax> Ohhh
[07:12] <allu2> hunahpu: i managed to get it ask the passphrase by chrooting but it didn't help it just still doesn't sem to decrypt
[07:12] <geekphreak> libertiy:   when you add user to mysql dbase right, you add user like name@localhost, if it is localhost, only local access allowed, i it something like name@% , then any remote pc can access it too
[07:12] <nsadmin> Iszak: sure, and I like things like find, xargs, piping in general, programs written in one language that write programs in another, lisp, perl, tcl and postgresql :)
[07:12] <Iszak> we should move to sha1, md5 has too many collisions.
[07:12] <necrogami> (and yes i do have a folder named Yourmom)
[07:12] <got_a_question> hunahpu how can i do it
[07:12] <chrisIrs> Hello. Is it possible to output the informaiton to text? For purposes of temporarily logging. Example: "sudo aptitude install pidgin > log.txt?"  Something of a sort.
[07:12] <Iszak> nsadmin, you love cross compiling then huh?
[07:12] <allu2> hunahpu: this is error on chroot fopen: No such file or directory
[07:12] <ejv> what cipher does ubuntu's encryption implement and what key size?
[07:13] <Name141> crucialhoax: I wonder how much bandwidth I'm wasting on installing 9.10?  When is the next LTS release?
[07:13] <hunahpu> got_a_question: in Ubuntu (or any linux) run "md5sum <yourisofile>" and compare the number to Ubuntu's hashes (I'll link in a bit)
[07:13] <nsadmin> didn't say that :) but yes even tho I dont' have experience under linux
[07:13] <Name141> crucialhoax: a few days?
[07:13] <crucialhoax> Name141: April 29th
[07:13] <chrisIrs> Name141: In 7/8 days.
[07:13] <Name141> LOL
[07:13] <nsadmin> more like...
[07:13] <geekphreak> libertiy:  and ofcouse database permisson need to be set too :), use phpmyadmin good tool :)
[07:13] <nsadmin> a perl script that writes a shell script
[07:13] <hunahpu> got_a_question: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[07:13] <necrogami> How can i go about detecting the serial port that is on my motherboard i did 'dmesg | grep ttyS' and recieved no return grep tty only returns the console
[07:13] <Iszak> necrogami, you've got that thing on windows that allows linux commands? I can't remember it's name.
[07:14] <necrogami> Iszak: Mingw
[07:14] <Iszak> hmm not the one I was thinking of
[07:14] <nsadmin> a lisp program that writes a C program which is then compiled
[07:14] <necrogami> Iszak: your thinking Cygwin?
[07:14] <got_a_question> hunahpu im dowloading again on xp ill do it
[07:14] <geekphreak> lszak cgywin? , something
[07:14] <got_a_question> :x
[07:14] <amayblum> i wanna download deb file of java can anyone help me.........
[07:14] <Iszak> necrogami, yeah that, but I don't think it integrated as nicely as that.
[07:15] <necrogami> Iszak: it doesn't
[07:15] <crucialhoax> amayblum: http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java
[07:15] <allu2> well gotto go :(
[07:15] <necrogami> minGW is an enviroment for compiling native linux applications in windows
[07:15] <nsadmin> a templating system whereby you can define html tags, which in turn write scripts which in turn create output to send to the broaser
[07:15] <geekphreak> allu2:  good luck :)
[07:15] <nsadmin> Iszak that kinda stuff :)
[07:15] <hunahpu> allu2: I just learned it uses ecryptfs
[07:15] <allu2> well i guess i'll lose that data, besure it was last time i encrypt my hd or try ubuntu 10.04 beta*
[07:16] <allu2> hunahpu: you think you could help me with it?
[07:16] <geekphreak> allu2:  dont say that , come on man :)
[07:16] <hunahpu> allu2: create a mount point, and then: sudo mount -t ecryptfs /your/homedev /your/mountpoint
[07:16] <Iszak> nsadmin, crazy shit
[07:16] <nsadmin> when theuy're small but useful, they're kinda fun
[07:17] <geekphreak> hunahpu: i dont think its that easy mate
[07:17] <hunahpu> allu2: choose defaults, but when it ask about file extensions change to "y"; the passphrase should be your regular password, if it's something different it will warn you
[07:17] <hunahpu> geekphreak: that's the way ecrypt works, it may work... he doesn't have many shots so it won't hurt trying
[07:17] <stls> hi, I used a command before to protect my home directories from users looking into each other's directories before with a command, does anyone know how to reset the file permissions completely?
[07:17] <allu2> hunahpu: well i have to go now
[07:17] <necrogami> Anyone?
[07:17] <geekphreak> hunahpu: agreed
[07:17] <stls> I tried chmod 777 but it didn't work
[07:18] <allu2> hunahpu: i'll be back later today, maybe we'll see then :)
[07:18] <allu2> hunahpu: thank you already :)
[07:18] <necrogami> How can i go about detecting the serial port that is on my motherboard i did 'dmesg | grep ttyS' and recieved no return grep tty only returns the console
[07:18] <Name141> what are some IRC clients that run on the command line? irssi ?
[07:18] <allu2> geekphreak: thank you too :)
[07:18] <hunahpu> allu2: OK later, good luck
[07:18] <allu2> bye
[07:18] <allu2> :)
[07:18] <FloodBot4> allu2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:18] <allu2> merci
[07:18] <geekphreak> stls: huh what?
[07:18] <hunahpu> de rien
[07:18] <crucialhoax> Name141: Yes.
[07:18] <geekphreak> merci :)
[07:18] <Name141> crucialhoax: is BitchX anymore?
[07:18] <amayblum> JAVA JAVA JAVA
[07:18] <nsadmin> stls: chmod 777 kinda does the opposite
[07:18] <amayblum> can anyone hlp me to dwnld the deb file of java
[07:19] <crucialhoax> Name141: Yes I think. It is still referenced in xchat's faq
[07:19] <stls> nsadmin, it does? how do you mean?
[07:19] <necrogami> amayblum: Why java java java he's running w/ 8mb vram and 350mb ram on a 450mhz .. java would rape him.
[07:19] <hunahpu> amayblum: http://packages.ubuntu.com should be the safest way
[07:19] <nsadmin> WUBBA WUBBA WUBBA
[07:19] <crucialhoax> amayblum: I already gave you a link
[07:19] <crucialhoax> haha @ necrogami
[07:19] <amayblum> necrogami : i am talking about myself
[07:19] <myton> cannot mount vista built udf dvd. Do I need to use udftools?
[07:19] <nsadmin> stls: chmod 777 something lets any user on that machine do anything to something
[07:20] <amayblum> crucialhox :  over there there are many dependencies of it i want a single deb file of that
[07:20] <crucialhoax> amayblum: Ummm. No there is not, it is one file. It is a single .bin file.
[07:20] <stls> nsadmin, yep, that's what I'm trying to get back, I'm trying to set up apache to use a virtualhost on some users but it's not working because it says it doesn't have permission to access those directories
[07:21] <stls> I can't work out what's wrong, so I'm trying to reset it so anything can access them
[07:21] <vf2nsr> brain cramped here what is the command ro enter into terminal to edit  the etc/default/grub?
[07:21] <amayblum> crucilahox :  can u please give me its direct download links
[07:21] <amayblum> link
[07:21] <nsadmin> apache is sorta careful about permissions and owners
[07:21] <hunahpu> stls: directories HAVE to be set to 755 in order to work
[07:21] <crucialhoax> amayblum: Every single step is listed on that site, in a very precise manner.
[07:22] <nsadmin> it's a little annoying, and you have to know how it works
[07:22] <crucialhoax> amayblum: Even download links
[07:22] <necrogami> amayblum: well in the future you might add some context to what your saying before just throwing out java java java ... otherwise you'll get response's like mine.
[07:22] <necrogami> amayblum: LEARN TO GOOGLE. holy crap.
[07:22] <stls> vf2nsr, press f2, then: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[07:22] <nsadmin> or WUBBA like miWUBBAne
[07:22] <stls> I mean alt+f2
[07:23] <amayblum> necrogami : none of u r business
[07:23] <hunahpu> stls: you should run gedit with gksudo, not sudo
[07:23] <got_a_question> bbl
[07:23] <crucialhoax> cya
[07:23] <nsadmin> to which he'll say "whew", "no problem, google or don't"
[07:23] <stls> it does the same thing though, doesn't it?
[07:23] <intok> Anyone else got an HP PSC 1410? http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-PSC_1400 I can print in color just fine, but I can't get greyscale printing to work, it sounds like it's printing, but it doesn't put anything to the paper. I.E. the print head is moving but nothing is coming out. No, it's not out of black, if I do a B/W photocopy it prints fine.
[07:23] <necrogami> amayblum: your on xchat which means your on a gui so you can open a web browser type google.com and then type linux java
[07:24] <hunahpu> stls: you can get problems by using sudo as it uses root's preferences; some bad things may happen the safest way is to use gksu or gksudo when launching GUI apps
[07:24] <amayblum> necrogami : I know that :) i am i CCNP
[07:24] <ibrahim-laptop0> I am trying to upgrade to lucid from karmic , does not work because of package dependencies I think it is related to x.org crackers PPA. Does anybody faced the same problem and know the solution?
[07:24] <stls> hunahpu, oh I see
[07:25] <hunahpu> stls: read this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[07:25] <MGMTM3> best IRC for ubuntu?
[07:25] <lorenzosu> hi guys, this is on karmic: I set up a wifi router with wpa-psk. Network manager sees the network and asks me for the passphrase, but after entering the 'circle' connecting moves and after an idle period I'm asked the passphrase again
[07:25] <hunahpu> !best | MGMTM3
[07:25] <necrogami> amayblum: your a CCNP but can't figure out how to install java via the bin file?
[07:25] <Iszak> hmm..
[07:25] <stls> MGMTM3, I use x-chat, it works nicely
[07:25] <hunahpu> MGMTM3: I use irssi :)
[07:25] <intok> MGMTM3 I use pidgin for everything chat
[07:25] <Iszak> why doesn't "find -regex \.png$" work? I know "find -regex .*\.png$" does though.
[07:25] <nsadmin> necrogami: amayblum can do what he wants... if he doesn't want to google, and you're looking at that as not putting enough effort in, just take two deep breaths and /ignore
[07:26] <Iszak> find ./ -regex *
[07:26] <MGMTM3> thanks I will check out those suggestions and see what works best
[07:26] <nsadmin> * isn't regex :)
[07:26] <Iszak> .* is though
[07:26] <nsadmin> that's filename globbing which is different
[07:26] <nsadmin> true
[07:26] <Iszak> it was a correctly, I was meant to type fint ./ -regex \. \.png$
[07:26] <Iszak> fook
[07:27] <necrogami> nsadmin: i wonder when brah- is gonna get glined?
[07:27] <Iszak> find ./ -regex \.png$
[07:27] <Iszak> there
[07:27] <nsadmin> if you're wondering about that, then don't ignore and watch... I would think, however, it's less stress to /ignore :)
[07:27] <amayblum> necrogami: can i talk to u personally
[07:28] <vf2nsr> thanks :)
[07:28] <necrogami> amayblum: see me in #necrogami
[07:29] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: Are you typing the password correctly? Its either that or the network settings are incorrect.
[07:29] <tumenjargal> #windows
[07:30] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: also can mac filtering on router side cause that too?
[07:30] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, yes. I set up a trivial passphrase as well just to be sure.
[07:30] <crucialhoax> geekphreak: Yes.
[07:30] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, the strange thing is that it does work with wep
[07:30] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: What wireless card are you using?
[07:30] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: might be a driver issue.
[07:30] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, ehm.. just stock laptop one...
[07:30] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, that's my fear as well
[07:31] <Ubuser> hi
[07:31] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: Ok. I need specifics. In a terminal type `lshw -C Network` look for the wireless adapter and post the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:31] <geekphreak> hi Ubuser
[07:31] <hunahpu> Ubuser: hello
[07:32] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, ok.. but bear in mind I'm on another machine typing
[07:32] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: Ok. I will still be here :)
[07:32] <gbear14275> anyone know if ubuntu does any ID management (openid, etc.).  I think it would be really great to be able to have your web login credentials associated with your user account.
[07:32] <nmvictor> I have set the CLASSPATH IN /etc/environment and /quit
[07:32] <crucialhoax> geekphreak: MAC filtering is a false sense of security though.
[07:32] <Ubuser> hi geekphreak, hunahpu =D
[07:32] <gbear14275> either now or upcoming (lucid?)
[07:33] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: i guess
[07:33] <crucialhoax> geekphreak: :]
[07:33] <moderndayzero> hello i have a few problems if anyone cares to lend a hand
[07:34] <crucialhoax> just ask moderndayzero
[07:34] <nsadmin> !ask
[07:34] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: i do keep it enabled here though, how do i put it kindly , too many freenet users here ;)
[07:34] <moderndayzero> does anyone know how to fix the "soft reset failed ( device not ready) error  on start up?
[07:34] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, here: http://pastebin.com/zZn6TznD the - hoefully - relevant information
[07:34] <vf2nsr> one more time please  power spike and lostr the command :( to edit the grub boot order
[07:34] <geekphreak> vf2nsr: press alt+f2 >> gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[07:35] <nmvictor> i have set the classpath environment variable in /etc/environment and /etc/bash.bashrc and now I get this error on starting the terminal [http://paste2.org/get/786712]
[07:35] <crucialhoax> geekphreak: MAC address's appear as clear text in packets. It would not take much to capture the packets then spoof the MAC...
[07:35] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: Same card as I. Hmm. Odd.
[07:35] <geekphreak> vf2nsr:  which grub version a\yo got?
[07:35] <geekphreak> you*
[07:35] <vf2nsr> 1.97
[07:35] <nsadmin> vf2nsr: a program writes out the menu.lst in the order the programmer came up with, probably alphabetical
[07:35] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, dmsg shows a timeout at a certain point
[07:36] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: true
[07:36] <nsadmin> that program is called update-grub and is a debianism
[07:36] <vf2nsr> I need to change it to boot differently
[07:36] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, *dmesg
[07:36] <nsadmin> differently how?
[07:36] <nsadmin> why not just turn on savedefault
[07:36] <vf2nsr> order of default
[07:37] <nsadmin> and default: saved
[07:37] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: What driver is currently in use? `lshw -C Network |grep driver`
[07:37] <Iszak> nsadmin, that just reminded me to download my ~260 updates :P
[07:37] <nsadmin> not sure how grub2 does that
[07:37] <nmvictor> i have set the classpath environment variable in /etc/environment and /etc/bash.bashrc and now I get this error on starting the terminal [http://paste2.org/get/786712]
[07:37] <geekphreak> good articel on grub2 nsadmin
[07:38] <geekphreak> !grub2 | nsadmin
[07:38] <clotterm> hi. i need to remotely install ubuntu on a server, but i just have a telnet connection to it. i set the ubuntu server cd image on a usb pen drive. i can't see anything of the choices you'll usually get, and when i hit enter i just get "boot:" and have to enter sth (i suggest the kernel image etc.). any suggestions how to avoid that?
[07:38] <geekphreak> vf2nsr:  you can check it out too :) , if you have ver 2
[07:38] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, iwlagn
[07:38] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: And it wont connect?
[07:39] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, only with WPA-PSK (on the router) works with WEP
[07:39] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: Disable the adapter / Turn off the wireless, wait a few seconds then try again.
[07:40] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: Are you using AES+TKIP or just AES for encryption?
[07:40] <nsadmin> Iszak as always it's your choice whether to do that... perhaps you'll choose which packages you want based on what bugs they have or on something you saw in their C source code... in any case you're invited to ask yourself as often as you want, what's the highest, best use of your time
[07:40] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, where can I find that out?
[07:40] <Iszak> nsadmin, bit out of context?
[07:41] <nsadmin> it's still a good question to ask
[07:41] <Iszak> My answer: install all updates
[07:41] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: You said you setup the router to use WPA, well on that same page of the router config. Make sure its only AES.
[07:41] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, aww... I can't see that option.. I see WPA or WPA-PSK
[07:41] <nsadmin> My answer: learn how to get wealthy
[07:42] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: What is the router?
[07:42] <lorenzosu> crucialhoax, planet wap 4000
[07:43] <crucialhoax> nsadmin: I think that is everyone's inevitable dream. Whether or not it is voluntary or not. Wealth is attractive on more than one dimension.
[07:43] <demism> nsadmin: You can learn that? I wanna learn!
[07:43] <crucialhoax> lorenzosu: That might not be the issue then. Usually resetting the adapter works. in a terminal do `sudo ifconfig wlan0 down` then after that is done do `sudo ifconfig wlan0 up`
[07:43] <crucialhoax> I agree with demism
[07:44] <nsadmin> demism: The experience of wealth and more generally total abundance, is the same feeling as gratitude
[07:45] <kdjubuntu> I've got a monitor in the standard nowadays "wide" size. What's the smart (=one-stop) way to configure fonts nicely for karmic? I need bigger than default fonts due to poor vision.
[07:46] <nsadmin> enough offtopicness! we have to help someone install a package!
[07:46] <Bardology> Before I begin my "oops, I broke it" speech, has anyone else installed the dotdeb PHP5.3.2 package?
[07:47] <frankie_> hello
[07:47] <crucialhoax> hello
[07:47] <Bardology> Hi
[07:47] <lanzha> ada yag punya ubuntu 10.04 realese
[07:47] <lanzha> ??
[07:47] <Bardology> I just did and lost PDO, mcrypt, and a bunch of other things
[07:48] <ayam_jago> lanzha: download aja dari ubuntu.com
[07:48] <frankie_> i just played with ubuntu and it is fun but how do i know which ubuntu is for me ?
[07:48] <nsadmin> Bardology you just did something?
[07:48] <necrogami> How can i go about detecting the serial port that is on my motherboard i did 'dmesg | grep ttyS' and recieved no return grep tty only returns the console
[07:48] <lanzha> ayam_jago: minta donk mas...
[07:49] <geekphreak> frankie_: once you use it and dive into it, you will find out  :)
[07:49] <lanzha> kirain kagak ada orang indonesia..hahaha
[07:49] <nsadmin> frankie_: you say the one you have now is fun?
[07:49] <Bardology> nsadmin: well, I added dotdeb's PHP package to my aptitude sources list
[07:49] <jen8661> Sometime when I click mouse, it does not work for a while, then I switch USB port or suspend/resume, then mouse does work.
[07:49] <Bardology> installed it with apt-get
[07:49] <ayam_jago> lanzha, tinggal download aja dari ubuntu.com ^_^
[07:49] <jen8661> What happened on mouse?
[07:49] <kdjubuntu> should I change system->preferences->appearance->fonts  to 12 for all? or should I go into details under fonts and increase dpi?
[07:49] <nsadmin> hmm. you're better off compilling the package
[07:49] <frankie_> but i see kubuntu and xubuntu? i dont know what kde is or xfce but it sounds interesting
[07:49] <jen8661> my mouse is usb mouse.
[07:49] <Bardology> And that removed a bunch of things that I can't reinstall with apt-get
[07:50] <jen8661> is xubuntu better than ubuntu?
[07:50] <nsadmin> yes!
[07:50] <nsadmin> no!
[07:50] <Bardology> nsadmin: Seems that way now
[07:50] <nsadmin> umm I dunno!
[07:50] <crucialhoax> frankie_: KDE has a windows feel to it, and Xubuntu is meant for older machines.
[07:50] <geekphreak> frankie_:  they are basically type of interface in easier terms for you  :)
[07:50] <ayam_jago> !xubuntu > jen8661
[07:50] <crucialhoax> jen8661: Depends on the requirements.
[07:50] <frankie_> is there a website or something that explains the differences of window managers (? is that correct term)
[07:50] <geekphreak> frankie_:  if you like eye candy then kubuntu :)
[07:51] <droopal> Hi, this is going to be hard to explain, so please feel free to ask questions so that I can give you more information.
[07:51] <crucialhoax> frankie_: Yes that is a correct term :)
[07:51] <geekphreak> frankie google is your friend :)
[07:51] <obscurant1st> i need to create an accesspoint and share the internet connection through it, how can i do it? i am connected to internet via eth0
[07:51] <kdjubuntu> frankie: google gnome kdm icewm sawwm
[07:51] <nsadmin> frankie, for one, fvwm is a window manager, so is sawfish and windowmaker
[07:51] <droopal> I upgraded to Lucid on my pc a couple ofm days ago, and it got stalled, and told me wine had a probelem installing, and it the installation had stopped.
[07:52] <intok> Anyone else got an HP PSC 1410 printer? http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-PSC_1400 I can print in color just fine, but I can't get greyscale printing to work, it sounds like it's printing, but it doesn't put anything to the paper. I.E. the print head is moving but nothing is coming out. No, it's not out of black, if I do a B/W photocopy it prints fine.
[07:52] <obscurant1st> somebody?
[07:52] <crucialhoax> frankie_: KDE and Gnome are "Desktop Environments" Window managers are like Ice and Saw.
[07:52] <nsadmin> obscurant1st: an access point? wired?
[07:52] <droopal> Now, I have Lucid on my pc, but in the grub, it its not changed it has all the old updates on there. How do I get it to complete the upgrade
[07:53] <frankie_> oh i see... tis alot more complex than windows :P
[07:53] <crucialhoax> obscurant1st: Does a switch fit the bill?
[07:53] <obscurant1st> nsadmin, accesspoint in wlan0,
[07:53] <geekphreak> frankie_:  more fun too :)
[07:53] <crucialhoax> frankie_: Just more configurable to each users needs :)
[07:53]  * ayam_jago brb eeQ
[07:53] <geekphreak> man we sound like linux salesman lol
[07:53] <nsadmin> oh, wireless... I've never done wireless (except once, it just worked)
[07:53] <obscurant1st> crucialhoax, no, i dont have switch or router, actually i just need to connect my my iphone to wifi
[07:53] <kdjubuntu> I've got a monitor in the standard nowadays "wide" size. What's the smart (=one-stop) way to configure fonts nicely for karmic? I need bigger than default fonts due to poor vision.
[07:53] <obscurant1st> nsadmin, any tips for me?
[07:54] <kdjubuntu> should I change system->preferences->appearance->fonts  to 12 for all? or should I go into details under fonts and increase dpi?
[07:54] <necrogami> How can i go about detecting the serial port that is on my motherboard i did 'dmesg | grep ttyS' and recieved no return grep tty only returns the console
[07:54] <crucialhoax> obscurant1st: So a wireless router will work then. It has a 4 port switch for your wired connections and wireless for the iPhone.
[07:54] <nsadmin> well I didn't do an access point (I bought one)
[07:54] <crucialhoax> lol
[07:54] <nsadmin> and I havent' used it yet
[07:54] <geekphreak> kdjubuntu: i would go in system >> pref :)
[07:55] <obscurant1st> crucialhoax, that i know. but the thing is,i am here in this place for 2 days, also  i have done this in windows, i mean ICS through wifi
[07:55] <mneptok> kdjubuntu: System > Preference > Appearance to be exact
[07:55] <nsadmin> but some wireless cards can be APs with the right software and setup
[07:55] <obscurant1st> for 2 days a wifi router, i dont think its a good idea
[07:55] <frankie_> i like how linuxmint works.. but i like how ubuntu looks.. i do not know what to choose :(
[07:55] <nsadmin> it's not easy to get working
[07:55] <kdjubuntu> geekphreak, umm... by details under fonts I meant  system->preferences->appearance->fonts->details.
[07:56] <obscurant1st> nsadmin, i have done the same setup in windows
[07:56] <ukaratay> \server irc.webchat.org
[07:56] <nsadmin> frankie: if you spend enough time, you can make any linux look like any other
[07:56] <hybrid_mind> dang, my box is crashing every 15mins or so, any ideas? made two 'major' changes - enabled remote desktop (requiring password) and added two simple python scripts to crontab.
[07:56] <geekphreak> frankie_:  it comes down to matter of choice , i would go for ubuntu thats why i use it, just my take :)
[07:56] <ibrahim-laptop0> Hello All, I am trying to upgrade to lucid from karmic , does not work because of package dependencies I think it is related to x.org crackers PPA. Does anybody faced the same problem and know the solution?
[07:57] <moderndayzero> did i miss a responce to the soft reset problem?
[07:57] <crucialhoax> frankie_: Linux Mint will have most restricted software installed by default, such as flash, java and mp3 support.
[07:57] <moderndayzero> yes i just fixed them
[07:57] <moderndayzero> let me see if i can find the link
[07:57] <geekphreak> kdjubuntu:  oh ok
[07:58] <frankie_> i showed my partner both of them and she was really keen on using linux mint :P
[07:58] <frankie_> so i might be going for that
[07:58] <crucialhoax> Why do so many do the upgrade process? It seems that all it does is fail, either that, or it is very irregular.
[07:58] <crucialhoax> frankie_: Linux Mint has a nice interface.
[07:58] <frankie_> there are so many distros out there.. i want to try them all. :(
[07:58] <crucialhoax> frankie_: Mint is based off of Ubuntu.
[07:58] <kdjubuntu> is it ok to use gnash or swfdec instead of adobe for youtube?
[07:58] <mneptok> frankie_: no, you don't.
[07:58] <nsadmin> ibrahim-laptop0: maybe this is worth saying... if you're involving ppas, some folks won't know about them since they're not official ubuntu defaults
[07:59] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: it kinda of reminds me of suse interface and i hate suse :)
[07:59] <crucialhoax> geekphreak: The suse interface is usually always complimented for being so clean lol. I find KDE in general a pain to use.
[07:59] <moderndayzero> ibrahim you need the xorg edgers ppa
[08:00] <nsadmin> crucialhoax: probably it has to do with the development workflow and path of ubuntu, which starts by taking debian unstable and working on it
[08:00] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: too flashy for me
[08:00] <frankie_> well i feel overwhelmed at all the options at hte moment, i am enjoy linux.. it will fulfilll what i desire its just committing to a distro :^)
[08:00] <frankie_> you people here have been very helpful
[08:00] <nsadmin> as a result (generally) ubuntu development doesn't help debian packages get stable
[08:00] <geekphreak> frankie_:  you can do this , install ubuntu, try rest on virtuabox :)
[08:00] <crucialhoax> nsadmin: My thought was too many variables not accounted for in the software installation. Clean install all the way.
[08:01] <crucialhoax> geekphreak: Exactly.
[08:01] <dotmono> huraa
[08:01] <nsadmin> crucialhoax: and the dev workflow could be part of why
[08:02] <moderndayzero> ibrahim here is a link for some info https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[08:02] <ibrahim-laptop0> moderndayzero: that PPA is already there. but I cannot upgrade to lucid, as I can see from apt.log broken dependencies for xorg packages
[08:02] <xiaoshen> hi all
[08:02] <crucialhoax> hello
[08:02] <xiaoshen> anybody using db2
[08:03] <nsadmin> I use postgres
[08:03] <frankie_> i might do that geekphreak. :) i will play with linuxmint and ubuntu some more tommorrow on my spare laptop. are there any other new-to-linux friendly distros i should give a whirl?
[08:03] <crucialhoax> nsadmin: is there a way to tell apt to accept what I installed? For instance, I do not use the Java in the repo's but some package depend on java but it is not recognized
[08:03] <geekphreak> frankie_:  loads and loads of them :) distrowatch good site, check it out :)
[08:03] <xiaoshen> anybody using db2? ineed help , coz in db2# noone is active xD
[08:03] <nsadmin> frankie_: what is your goal in getting familiar with linux?
[08:04] <nsadmin> crucialhoax, there's a package called equivs
[08:05] <nsadmin> I'm a little surprised more people aren't using aptitude
[08:05] <^Wolverin> hi
[08:05] <^Wolverin> i use apt-get
[08:05] <geekphreak> nsadmin:  i dont too be honest i have been using ubuntu for sometime, , always used apt-get , dpkg sometime , aptitude never
[08:06] <crucialhoax> I believe it is because it is lacking in dependency resolution, don't quote me on that, but I did read somewhere that there is a problem with it.
[08:06] <stego_> !aptitude
[08:06] <frankie_> nsadmin i would like to put it on my computer fulltime. ive always been interested in linux but it always seems too much of a hurdle for me
[08:07] <nsadmin> reason why I say that is apt-get was only intended as a test of the apt libs... but people descended on the author saying GIMME. NOW.
[08:07] <geekphreak> frankie_: why a hurdle, in regards to command ?
[08:07] <nsadmin> hence apt-get has been very well tested for a very long time
[08:07] <andres_> hola!
[08:08] <geekphreak> frankie_:  one more thing i would suggest is , boot the system off live CD, see how hardware interacts with it :)
[08:08] <nsadmin> helium!
[08:08] <frankie_> geekphreak: ive been using windows since 95 and always been spoiled with the gui. i remember using ubuntu live cd years ago and not being able to get flash to run and found it very frustrating
[08:09] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[08:09] <crucialhoax> frankie_: Flash is easy now :)
[08:09] <andres_> alguien por ahí?
[08:09] <geekphreak> frankie thing have changed my friend, :)
[08:09] <frankie_> oh that is good to now :)
[08:09] <andres_> alguno habla español? necesito alguna ayudita!
[08:09] <geekphreak> andres spanish?
[08:09] <andres_> yes!
[08:10] <DJones> !es | andres_
[08:10] <geekphreak> !es | andres_
[08:10] <andres_> ok
[08:10] <frankie_> i want to learn how to use the terminal and stuff.. i dont expect it to be catered to me!
[08:10] <crucialhoax> frankie_: I have made a script for it, for Ubuntu, so if you decide Ubuntu, you can use that script :)
[08:10] <frankie_> oh very nice! :)
[08:11] <geekphreak> frankie unless you use it, you will never learn, buy a book check out sites like linuxcommand, best do man comand :)
[08:11] <geekphreak> crucialhoax: my first script did wonder/blunder , lol no more comments :)
[08:11] <crucialhoax> meh, no need for a book, books are outdated. I have a fat CentOS Bible and I learned maybe 2 commands out of that. Everything else was from the Internetzzzz
[08:12] <frankie_> geekphreak: i will definitly check it out. :)
[08:12] <Jnuetron> is there any way to install adobe dreamviewer in ubuntu
[08:12] <crucialhoax> geekphreak: lol nice.
[08:12] <geekphreak> good luck frankie_
[08:12] <stego_> !wine | Jnuetron
[08:13] <dugger5688> frankie_: There are some sites that host older (out of publish) books esp. from O'reilly, they're a little old but in most cases are still 99.98% accurate.
[08:13] <DJones> !terminal | frankie_ This is a good starter to read on using the terminal, see ubottu's link:
[08:13] <hiexpo> who split the room
[08:13] <nsadmin> !room?
[08:13] <geekphreak> work calls, cya folks, adios
[08:13] <frankie_> ok i will bookmark it and read it tommorrow when i have linux going, thank you :)
[08:14] <crucialhoax> cya
[08:14] <frankie_> goodbye geekphreak thank you!
[08:14] <Iszak> we're under attack!
[08:14] <Jnuetron> wine is stable or crossover ???
[08:14]  * nsadmin looks... sees a tack above him...
[08:14] <bilalakhtar> Hi people does 64bit ubuntu utilise more RAM than 32-bit ubuntu?
[08:14] <hiexpo> lol
[08:15] <crucialhoax> ok, I have to ask, how do you input those nsadmin
[08:15] <crucialhoax> bilalakhtar: Yes.
[08:15] <nsadmin> input which?
[08:15] <DJones> bilalakhtar: 64bit ubuntu is able to use more memory than the 4Gb that the default 32bit ubuntu will normally have access to
[08:15] <hiexpo> Iszak,  - incoming
[08:15] <Jnuetron> bilalakhtar : yes but it also improves the performance
[08:15] <nsadmin> oh you mean
[08:15]  * nsadmin does something
[08:15] <crucialhoax> yes
[08:15] <nsadmin>  /me does something
[08:15] <stego_> Jnuetron: #winehq
[08:16] <bouma> hello, can anyone recommend a collection of more linux console screen fonts (en), cause i need a larger font cause my screen is 1280x880, not that big enough to make a small vga font (the default with ubuntu 9.10) a bit small.
[08:16] <crucialhoax> ha thanks
[08:16] <bouma> like is there a package?
[08:16] <bilalakhtar> DJones: I know that ubuntu x64 can use more memory but I want to know whether 1GB ram would be enough for ubuntu x86_64
[08:16] <frankie_> ive been reading about linux and open source.. is redhat one of the good guys or bad guys?
[08:16] <bouma> and what are the file formats, to search for them ?
[08:16] <crucialhoax> good.
[08:16] <nsadmin> console fonts? not x fonts?
[08:16] <i_got_a_question> do u miss me?
[08:16] <Iszak> no.
[08:16] <i_got_a_question> did u
[08:16] <i_got_a_question> xD
[08:16] <crucialhoax> hahaha
[08:16] <nsadmin> do you got a question?
[08:17] <hiexpo> red hat cost money
[08:17] <bilalakhtar> DJones: My RAM usage in 32-bit never exceeds 650 MB
[08:17] <bilalakhtar> DJones: I have 2GB SWAP
[08:17] <bilalakhtar> DJones: and 1GB RAM
[08:17] <hiexpo> is mostly for servers
[08:18] <MobiusJedi> hey peeps... vlc won't play vids without stuttering. I think i installed something that conflicted with a gstreamer package, problem is i have no idea which one
[08:18] <bilalakhtar> DJones: I have apache webserver running all the time, along with php and mysql. I use firefox and empathy, these keep running all the time.
[08:18] <lurensdfsdfsdfsd> d
[08:18] <crucialhoax> bilalakhtar: x64 machines will run 32bit applications still. as not everything has been ported over.
[08:18] <bilalakhtar> DJones: Is it fine to move to 64bit?
[08:18] <DJones> bilalakhtar: I've not used the 64bit version, all of my machines are 32bit and have 512Mb of ram, so I'm not the best person to ask about whether 1Gb would be enough for 64bit, I don't see why not though, the base system is similar
[08:18] <SandGorgon> bilalakhtar, you need to take a look at overcommit_memory, overcommit_ratio and swappiness settings in sysctl
[08:18] <hiexpo> better off to run 32 bit
[08:19] <hiexpo> and 2 gig swap is fine
[08:19] <crucialhoax> bilalakhtar: 1gb might be enough memory for x64, best way is to run a live cd and see what the ram usage is like. but if 64bit is not necessary you might as well stick with 32
[08:19] <bilalakhtar> crucialhoax: Yes a Live CD is a good option
[08:20] <bilalakhtar> hiexpo: My Swap is empty most of the time. It never exceeded 20MB usage
[08:20] <trijntje> Hi all, when I mount a tmpfs to /tmp in Hardy all programs I start crash saying: Cannot find display 0:0. What can I do to fix this?
[08:21] <zebastian> how can i repartition my laptops hard drive from ubuntu?
[08:21] <zebastian> i need to make enough space, maybe 40 gb
[08:21] <zamba> zebastian: gparted
[08:21] <hiexpo> bilalakhtar, will use it when you open a bunch of things at once
[08:21] <zebastian> to install windows and dual boot
[08:21] <Wilbert> how to uninstall ubuntu partition from dual boot?
[08:22] <bilalakhtar> I opened supertuxkart game, firefox, (dont forget apache and mysql are running), synaptic, empathy, evolution and still ram usage is 600MB and swab 7MB
[08:22] <SandGorgon> I have not run 32 bit since 8.04
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:22] <moderndayzero> im getting a soft reset failed (Device not ready) when i power up my laptop any clues?
[08:23] <hiexpo> there really not running though there idle
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Moderndayzero: run: dmesg | less ,read the boot messages for clues
[08:23] <stego_> !lilo | Wilbert
[08:23] <crucialhoax> hiexpo: FF at idle is a ram hog though.
[08:23] <stego_> !grub | Wilbert
[08:23] <hiexpo> true
[08:24] <Wilbert> thanks stego_ubottu
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Crucialhoax: there's a hack you can use so it releases its ram when minimised (well, some)
[08:24] <bouma> bilalakhtar: the biggest resident thing on my machine is 133mg for chromium (multiple windows with many tabs), then xorg 62meg, acroread 61meg (ha adobe is fat), named 53meg, synaptic 52meg, ok there would be substantial amount shared too... anyway, buy more ram its cheap to have 4gig then you wont worry. if youve got a 64bit proc and less than 2gigs than well .. buy more ram
[08:25] <hiexpo> crucialhoax,  - run aircrack and watch the swap go way up and cpu temp
[08:25] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Never seemed to work for me. Even in Windows.
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Crucialhoax: I only heard about it. I dropped firefox ages ago
[08:25] <bilalakhtar> bouma: Thanks for the info. Looks like I won't be able to go 64 when Lucid comes
[08:25] <crucialhoax> hiexpo: Never really ran it to full extent but I bet its crazy.
[08:26] <hiexpo> yes
[08:26] <zebastian> zamba: what is this gparted and how does it work? is it an image i have to burn onto a cd?
[08:26] <MobiusJedi> anyone? gstreamer? anyone?
[08:26] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Chromium ftw. FF is still nice though.
[08:26] <zamba> zebastian: google it
[08:26] <hiexpo> crucialhoax,  - at 450 pw per sec
[08:26] <zamba> zebastian: it should be pretty straight-forward then
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Crucialhoax: arora and chromium here, both rock
[08:26] <crucialhoax> ubottu: tell zebastian about gparted
[08:26] <Flannel> zamba: "google it" isn't an appropriate response in this channel
[08:27] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Yep yep.
[08:27] <hiexpo> crucialhoax,  - i have always doubledmy swap per ram buts thats just me
[08:27] <MobiusJedi> ^Flannel kinda what makes this channel awesome
[08:28] <crucialhoax> hiexpo: Ubuntu default has made a 11.1gb swap for me. =[
[08:28] <zebastian> zamba: i guess waht i am trying to ask is whether i can make a new partition FROM ubuntu, i.e. run gparted from ubuntu and make a new partition
[08:28] <bilalakhtar> crucialhoax: what? 11GB swap?
[08:28] <hiexpo> crucialhoax, overkill
[08:28] <crucialhoax> zebastian: Yes you can.
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Hiexpo: if you set vm.swappiness to a lower figure your system will try and use swap less
[08:28] <crucialhoax> it was the defaults and i never cared much to change it.
[08:28] <bilalakhtar> crucialhoax: yes we can (Barack Obama)
[08:29] <Flannel> zebastian: You can. You just can't touch the partitions you have mounted (in use) right now.  If you needed to, for instance, shrink your Ubuntu parititon to make room, you couldn't (you'd have to use a liveCD)
[08:29] <Bardology> nsadmin: problem fixed. I added another repository that intalled libltdl3
[08:29] <zebastian> Flannel: where do i get a livecd?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Hiexpo: my vm.swappiness is 2 but I have anough ram for my needs
[08:29] <bilalakhtar> crucialhoax: I think ubiquity sets swap by seeing ram size
[08:29] <crucialhoax> bilalakhtar: Exactly. 4gb of ram.
[08:29] <Flannel> zebastian: How did you install Ubuntu?
[08:30] <phobia> hi :) how can I convert a file's encoding from iso-8859 to utf-8? I tried with iconv, but it doesn't support that iso it seems
[08:30] <bilalakhtar> !download > zebastian
[08:30] <zebastian> Flannel: how do you mean? i burned a cd and i installed it...
[08:30] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip,  - how do i set it to lower now without a fresh install
[08:30] <crucialhoax> I am out. See all of you guys later.
[08:30] <Flannel> zebastian: Right.  What sort of steps did you take while installing? Did you do it via a GUI? or a text interface?
[08:31] <zebastian> Flannel: i think via a GUI
[08:31] <avgeneral> help, volume control in notification area is just "---"
[08:31] <bilalakhtar> !install > Flannel
[08:31] <avgeneral> cannot control volume
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Hiexpo: there are guides. They are on guides to make ubuntu faster. This phone is pretty poor for browsing but you set it in /etc/sysctl.conf
[08:31] <Flannel> bilalakhtar: Eh?
[08:31] <avgeneral> running version 10.04 Beta 2
[08:31] <nsadmin> Bardology: excellent... also consider, for next time, when you download binary stuff which may or may not be compiled for your version of ubuntu, you can sometimes build the package
[08:31] <Flannel> zebastian: If it was a GUI, then you already have a LiveCD (that CD was it)
[08:31] <hiexpo> ok
[08:31] <Flannel> avgeneral: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support, thanks
[08:31] <avgeneral> thx
[08:32] <bilalakhtar> Flannel: You wanted to know how to install, so I got the bot to send the factoid to you
[08:32] <nsadmin> is bardology about Bridgitte Bardot?
[08:32] <Flannel> bilalakhtar: No, I didn't want to know how to install, I wanted to know which method he used to install
[08:32] <zebastian> Flannel: but what i want to do is leave ubuntu untouched and make a new partition, install windows and dual boot
[08:32] <Flannel> bilalakhtar: But thanks anyway
[08:32] <Bardology> nsadmin: Yeah, in the future I'll try to avoid "It will be faster if I just find a package", because invariably, it's not ;)
[08:33] <MobiusJedi> some day, i'm going to go through the #ubuntu logs and count all the +1's, just to see how far ahead ubuntu is. . . and maybe there i'll find a solution to my gstreamer problem
[08:33] <ugliefrog> is there a plugin for image viewer to open .jp2 images (jpeg2000)
[08:33] <Flannel> zebastian: do you have unused space at the 'end' of your drive? or does you Ubuntu partition use the whole thing? (pastebin the output of `sudo fdisk -l` (lowercase L)
[08:33] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: When you will install windows, then windows will overwrite the GRUB mbr
[08:33] <zebastian> Flannel: ubuntu is using hte whole thing
[08:34] <Flannel> zebastian: Then you'll have to boot to a LiveCD and shrink your Ubuntu partition (to give windows some room) with gparted
[08:34] <nsadmin> MobiusJedi: you'll only find how many people wonder about the next release :)
[08:34] <phobia> nevermind.. "file" had me fooled, it reported iso-8859 encoding, so I tried that for iconv, but it's iso-8859-1 of course
[08:34] <MobiusJedi> rofl... drat
[08:35] <bilalakhtar> Flannel: Why not make him install gparted on his ubuntu installation?
[08:35] <zebastian> Flannel: ok, my question is, what do i do? i dont have the original ubuntu livecd, and secondly, are you telling me to get gparted or to get an ubuntu livecd?
[08:35] <nsadmin> frumiously fooling file.
[08:35] <Flannel> bilalakhtar: Because he can't shrink his Ubuntu partition while its in use
[08:35] <bilalakhtar> Flannel: ohk
[08:35] <MobiusJedi> would it be bad if, in synaptic, i typed 'gstreamer' and just install everything?
[08:36] <Flannel> zebastian: You need to get a LiveCD, then while you've booted to the liveCD, you use gparted to shrink your Ubuntu partition to make unallocated space so windows can use it
[08:36] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: Download the livecd fromhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso and boot using it
[08:36] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: Download the livecd from http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso and boot using it
[08:36] <zebastian> Flannel: gparted is part of the ubuntu livecd?
[08:36] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: The open gparted from the system->administration
[08:36] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: yes
[08:37] <zebastian> so let me see if i get it, boot from livecd
[08:37] <zebastian> then go where? to open gparted that is
[08:37] <Flannel> zebastian: Might be "gnome partition editor" or something like that (maybe just partition editor) in the menus, but yes.
[08:37] <hiexpo> found it
[08:37] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: its "GParted"
[08:37] <zebastian> under waht?
[08:37] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: its "GParted partition editor"
[08:37] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: in system->administration menu
[08:38] <zebastian> Flannel: do i have to give the partitions a specific name or write down the name? because i understand then i have to do something else to get grub back to boot into either system
[08:38] <i_got_a_question> gparted is gay but it will help me
[08:38] <Flannel> i_got_a_question: Please don't use that term pejoratively
[08:38] <i_had_a_question> ok sr
[08:39] <bilalakhtar> !grub | zebastian
[08:39] <bilalakhtar> sorry zebastian
[08:39] <bullgard4> 'man update-manager': "update-manager OPTION -d, --devel-release: Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible." When will update-manager -d issue automatically a notification that new software updates are available?
[08:39] <bilalakhtar> !grub2 | zebastian
[08:39] <Flannel> bullgard4: Which version of Ubuntu are you currently on?
[08:40] <zebastian> bilalakhtar: i am on hardy
[08:40] <bullgard4> Flannel Ubuntu 10.04 Beta 2.
[08:40] <Flannel> zebastian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:40] <Flannel> zebastian: that page is what you want
[08:40] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: You are on hardy?
[08:40] <Flannel> bullgard4: You have no use for -d then
[08:41] <Flannel> bullgard4: since you're aleady on the development release
[08:41] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: Then download this live cd:-  http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04.4-desktop-i386.iso
[08:41] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: not the one I gave earlier
[08:41] <zebastian> bilalakhtar: yes, and i want that to stay intact
[08:42] <obscurant1st_> whren i reconfigure dhcp using a command it fails stoping and restating, in syslog this message comes, http://pastie.org/929312
[08:42] <obscurant1st_> how can i fix it?
[08:42] <bullgard4> Flannel: Can you elaborate your sentence: "You have no use for -d then" please.
[08:42] <bilalakhtar> zebastian: Ask Flannel for help. I have to go somewhere.
[08:42] <Flannel> bullgard4: You're already on the development version, so -d does nothing.  There is no 'development version' for you to upgrade to.
[08:42] <zebastian> bilalakhtar: Thanks anyway
[08:43] <trijntje> When I mount a tmpfs to /tmp in Hardy all programs I start crash saying: Cannot find display 0:0. What can I do to fix this?
[08:43] <Flannel> zebastian: So, where were we?
[08:44] <bullgard4> Flannel: May I thus reword my question then: When will Update Manager send an automatic notification on my desktop that new updates are available?
[08:44] <Flannel> bullgard4: What updates are you talking about?
[08:44] <zebastian> Flannel: i am on hardy, i boot from cd, make new empty space, do i make it ntsf or just blank? then i go and install windows in the available free space, then i use the live cd again to boot from it and somehow reinstall grub?
[08:45] <Flannel> bullgard4: This has actually become a 10.04 specific question, since I understand it might've changed.  You should ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:45] <Flannel> zebastian: Just leave it blank, the windows CD will do the formatting of it.
[08:45] <zebastian> Flannel: do i have to give a particular name to the new space? do i havce to pay close attention to the name of the partition ubuntu is on
[08:45] <ugliefrog> is there a plugin for image viewer to open .jp2 images (jpeg2000)
[08:45] <Flannel> zebastian: and yes, you'll later boot from the liveCD and follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows to restore stage1 of GRUB to your MBR (that last bit is details you don't reallyneed to know, just follow the wikipage ;)
[08:46] <bullgard4> Flannel: For example the package aptdaemon. The package version of aptdaemon that I am using at present is not the newest available from the repositories.
[08:46] <Flannel> zebastian: No, you don't need to give it a name (nor will you be asked to)
[08:46] <obscurant1st_> somebody?
[08:46] <Flannel> bullgard4: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid questions, they'll be able to help you
[08:47] <stupidguy> hello?
[08:47] <Flannel> zebastian: and no, you won't need to pay attention to which partition Ubuntu is on, that wiki page walks you through discovering that as well (and if you have questions while you're restoring GRUB, just come back here and ask)
[08:47] <MobiusJedi> awesome, why didn't i ever notice before that synaptic has a history?
[08:48] <stupidguy> anybody wanna help me out?
[08:48] <Flannel> !anyone | stupidguy
[08:48] <zebastian> Flannel: i am downloading the iso for hardy, that's the one i need right? since hardy uses grub legacy
[08:48] <obscurant1st_> pls somebody help me out!!
[08:48] <Flannel> zebastian: It's not "grub legacy" but yeah, a hardy CD will work
[08:49] <hiexpo> !ask
[08:49] <obscurant1st_> whren i reconfigure dhcp using a command it fails stoping and restating, in syslog this message comes, http://pastie.org/929312
[08:49] <bmwiedemann> I have a problem with NIS groups on lucid. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/553142
[08:49] <victor__> hi all. I can't remember which was the option to put into xorg.conf in order to enable the brightness control with Fn keys. I have googled but can't find it anymore. anyone knows it?
[08:49] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip,  - hmmm seemed to work
[08:49] <alabd> Good day all , what is bluetooth module name on 9.04 ?
[08:49] <obscurant1st_> how can i fix it?
[08:49] <Flannel> bmwiedemann: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support, thanks
[08:49] <pat5star> I have a paid subscription to a radio show that also offers podcast downloads for members via itunes. What can I use to get these? Anyone get itunes working with wine? Is there another program I can do this with?
[08:49] <stupidguy> ok my question is a am trying to run ./loadibec and i get file or directory not found. I have heard I have to compile it from source but I am not sure where to find or compile it
[08:50] <zebastian> Flannel: that link is specific to jaunty it seems
[08:50] <m3phist0> stupidguy: maybe it's not executable
[08:50] <obscurant1st_> stupidguy, chmod +x filename
[08:50] <obscurant1st_> then try to execute it
[08:50] <Flannel> zebastian: No, it's not
[08:50] <bigga> whats the package name for the C API manpages
[08:50] <Flannel> zebastian: (yeah, I see where the page says it is, but it's not)
[08:51] <m3phist0> stupidguy: try sh ./filename
[08:51] <zebastian> Flannel: so just read on and assume things will work?
[08:51] <Flannel> zebastian: Yeah, GRUB1 is GRUB1 is GRUB1
[08:52] <Flannel> zebastian: When they updated that page to handle grub2 stuff, they really made it ugly.
[08:52] <obscurant1st_> dhcp server porblem,can some one help me?
[08:53] <obscurant1st_> whren i reconfigure dhcp using a command it fails stoping and restating, in syslog this message comes, http://pastie.org/929312
[08:53] <victor__> hi all. I can't remember which was the option to put into xorg.conf in order to enable the brightness control with Fn keys. I have googled but can't find it anymore. anyone knows it?
[08:53] <obscurant1st_> restarting*
[08:53] <k0ala> my phone is not detected in ubuntu.. can anyne help me?
[08:53] <zebastian> flannel: here it says Note the designation for the disk /dev/sda which you will be using later, and the directory in /media.
[08:53] <Flannel> bigga: manpages-dev and/or glibc-doc
[08:53] <obscurant1st_> 1412 memeber ai know there will be people who can help me!, why i am nto getting help , :'(
[08:54] <stupidguy> I get root@ubuntu:/home/taylor# sh ./loadibec ./loadibec: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[08:54] <Flannel> !helpme | obscurant1st_
[08:55] <AAA_awright> ubottu: You could start by following your own advice
[08:55] <k0ala> my phone is not detected in ubuntu.. help appreciated
[08:55] <Flannel> zebastian: that's after you've installed Windows, once you're setting up GRUB again
[08:55] <alabd> Good day all , what is bluetooth module name on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[08:55] <zebastian> Flannel: what's this To make sure this is indeed the Ubuntu boot partition, run ls /media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444/boot, substituting 0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 with your volume's UUID from before
[08:55] <zebastian> i dont get it
[08:55] <m3phist0> stupidguy: go through the code and find extra ( that's stopping from executing
[08:55] <obscurant1st> !repeat
[08:56] <obscurant1st> !attitude
[08:56] <stupidguy> Other people are running the code just fine. THis is for android on iphone
[08:56] <victor__> OH do you read me?
[08:56] <victor__> -.-
[08:56] <pat5star> anyone use itunes on ubuntu? any recommendations for an itunes substitute?
[08:56] <Flannel> zebastian: I don't believe on Hardy you'll have to worry about that long string.  But basically that's checking to make sure the partition is what you think it is.  Since you only have one Ubuntu partition (I suspect) then your Ubuntu partition will house your boot folder
[08:56] <obscurant1st> pat5star, use Vbox and install xp+itunes in it
[08:57] <obscurant1st> i use it like that
[08:57] <k0ala> pat5star, if thats for iphone, iuse iphone browser
[08:57] <zebastian> Flannel: should i just go with the supergrub disk method shown there?
[08:57] <pat5star> obsurant1st: ty, I'll give that a try :)
[08:57] <Flannel> zebastian: that's a viable alternative too.  It's whatever you'd like, they all accomplish the same thing
[08:57] <alabd> Good day all , what is bluetooth module name on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[08:57] <obscurant1st> pat5star, but the sync speed sucks, i ened up installing mac in my PC
[08:57] <obscurant1st> :)
[08:57] <k0ala> pat5star, it eliminates the use of itunes completely to transfer data
[08:57] <iceroot> !ipod | pat5star
[08:58] <zebastian> Flannel: in your assessment would you say htat for an entry level end user with no previous experience that is the most simple method?
[08:58] <k0ala> i need help with minicom
[08:58] <AAA_awright> Thunderbird 3 has been out for what looks like at least four months now, why won'y Ubuntu install the update?
[08:58] <Flannel> FreedomMaster: They're all pretty simple, and that page walks you through it.  (And you can ask for help here if you get stuck), so I wouldn't worry too much
[08:58] <iceroot> AAA_awright: in a release there are only security fixes, never major-updates
[08:58] <pat5star> iceroot: ty, but it's actually podcasts that are in itunes library I'm interested in
[08:58] <Sinister> whens the next ubuntu comming out ?
[08:59] <Flannel> AAA_awright: Lucid has TB3
[08:59] <k0ala> 27th apr
[08:59] <Sinister> thanks
[08:59] <Flannel> Sinister: 29th, not 27th
[08:59] <iceroot> !backports | AAA_awright
[08:59] <viliny> Sinister: 27 april and you can discuss it further in #ubuntu+1
[08:59] <AAA_awright> ...
[08:59] <FreedomMaster> Flannel: how do i register this name for me alone?
[08:59] <Flannel> !register > FreedomMaster
[08:59] <Sinister> ill wait till may
[08:59] <k0ala> lol
[09:00] <k0ala> .04 versions are always beter than .10.. any reason?
[09:01] <alessio_> ciaoa
[09:01] <alessio_> a tutti
[09:01] <AAA_awright> I have karmic-backports enabled, nothing seems to get updated via that channel
[09:01] <AAA_awright> And even then that's a really bad hack for a trivial update
[09:01] <Flannel> AAA_awright: Which trivial update?
[09:02] <AAA_awright> The aforementioned Thunderbird
[09:02] <Flannel> AAA_awright: things aren't automatically backported, you're welcome to suggest a backport though (that wiki page has details, I believe)
[09:02] <victor__> hi all. I can't remember which was the option to put into xorg.conf in order to enable the brightness control with Fn keys. I have googled but can't find it anymore. anyone knows it?
[09:02] <Flannel> AAA_awright: TB2 to TB3 is hardly trivial
[09:03] <Flannel> AAA_awright: But, Ubuntu mozillateam might have TB3 in a PPA, you should poke around and see
[09:03] <AAA_awright> I just assumed that it gets upgraded somehow with the operating system, and there are no problems with other distos
[09:03] <red2kic> !latest | AAA_awright
[09:03] <AAA_awright> hmm
[09:03] <kraut> moin
[09:03] <red2kic> AAA_awright: Ubuntu is not a true rolling distro. There are mozilla-daily PPA you can use to obtain your TB3.
[09:03] <Flannel> AAA_awright: Ubuntu isn't a rolling release, whatever versions of software get shipped with a release stay with that release (and get bugfixes/security updates)
[09:03] <alabd> any opinion ?
[09:03] <intok> Anyone else got an HP PSC 1410 printer? http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-PSC_1400 I can print in color just fine, but I can't get greyscale printing to work, it sounds like it's printing, but it doesn't put anything to the paper. I.E. the print head is moving but nothing is coming out. No, it's not out of black, if I do a B/W photocopy it prints fine.
[09:04] <Flannel> AAA_awright: When you upgrade, for instance, from 9.10 to 10.04, you'll also upgrade from TB2 to TB3
[09:05] <obscurant1st> i use wicd to connect, it is stuck at obtaining ipaddress
[09:05] <obscurant1st> nothing happens after that
[09:06] <FreedomMaster> Flannel: in a stateless vaccuum if there's a victimless crime, does someone hear it?
[09:07] <Name141> how do I go about installing openssh?
[09:07] <Name141> for sshd
[09:07] <Flannel> Name141: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:07] <Name141> oh -server
[09:07] <alabd> Good day all , how to find bluetooth module name ?
[09:08] <Name141> Flannel: then I assume I need to edit something before it can start the sshd?
[09:08] <Flannel> Name141: Nope, it'll start automatically.  If you need to edit something, you can, and then restart it
[09:08] <Name141> Flannel: so pretty much I should be able to login to that machine now?
[09:09] <FreedomMaster> http://www.freedomainradio.com/Browse/SearchResults/tabid/90/mid/542/articleId/6529/ctl/ReadDefault/Default.aspx
[09:09] <bilalakhtar> hello people I cannot run my webcam inter cs360 on ubuntu
[09:09] <Flannel> Name141: Yes
[09:09] <FreedomMaster> Flannel: http://www.freedomainradio.com/Traffic_Jams/FDR_1616_stephan_kinsella_intellectual_property.mp3
[09:09] <Flannel> FreedomMaster: Please help keep this channel ontopic.  We have #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support related discussion, thanks.
[09:09] <FreedomMaster> *nodnod*
[09:09] <Name141> Flannel: it says connection refused for 192.168.0.2:22
[09:10] <bilalakhtar> Since I installed ubuntu , it doesn't run. When I connect the webcam, I get the following output in the log:- http://paste.ubuntu.com/420284/
[09:10] <Flannel> Name141: Are you sure that's your IP?
[09:10] <Name141> Flannel: I did ifconfig on the machine
[09:10] <Name141> Flannel: and it says it's the inet addr
[09:10] <Flannel> Name141: Alright, and what does `ps aux | grep sshd` give you?
[09:11] <Name141> it says /usr/bin/sbin/sshd
[09:11] <bilalakhtar> hello? can anyone help me? Since I installed ubuntu , the webcam doesn't work. When I connect the webcam, I get the following output in the log:- http://paste.ubuntu.com/420284/
[09:11] <Flannel> /usr/bin/sbin/sshd?  or /usr/sbin/sshd?
[09:11] <Name141> the /usr/sbin/sshd
[09:11] <Name141> running as root
[09:12] <Flannel> Name141: Can you ssh locally from that machine to that machine?
[09:12] <Name141> Flannel: yes
[09:12] <Flannel> (127.0.0.1 as IP, then try 192.168.0.2)
[09:12] <theadmin> sometimes, ubuntu sezzit "Rejecting IO from dead device" (or to) on shutdown, is that bad?
[09:12] <Name141> Flannel: I did 192.168.0.2
[09:12] <Flannel> Name141: And it worked?
[09:12] <Name141> Flannel: and it worked on that machine
[09:13] <Name141> Flannel: yes
[09:13] <Flannel> Name141: Are you sure the other machine is on the same subnet?  Does it work with any other services? (it being conneting)
[09:13] <Name141> Flannel: I just tried it on my machine, it's working now
[09:13] <FreedomMaster> Flannel: the supergrub i should burn onto a cd as an image right+
[09:13] <Name141> Flannel: maybe it took a moment to open up?
[09:13] <bilalakhtar> Since I installed ubuntu , it doesn't run. When I connect the webcam, I get the following output in the log:- http://paste.ubuntu.com/420284/ . My camera model is intel cs630. PLEASE HELP ME!
[09:14] <sacarlson> I'm having trouble getting rosegarden to play any sound on Ubuntu 8.04,  what's the sequence to get this to work?
[09:14] <theadmin> bilalakhtar: What do you test it with?
[09:14] <Flannel> Name141: odd.  It shouldn't have, or at least, not if it gave you your terminal back.
[09:14] <theadmin> bilalakhtar: Also, do not repeat too often
[09:14] <Flannel> FreedomMaster: Yeah, isos get burned as images
[09:14] <bilalakhtar> theadmin: Its not showing up on cheese
[09:14] <Name141> Flannel: I'm in the machine now through puddy, it seems it's working
[09:14] <bilalakhtar> theadmin: See the paste from the syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/420284/
[09:14] <Flannel> Name141: Strange, but yeah, should work now.
[09:14] <theadmin> bilalakhtar: oh. Hm. It's just that many people come and complain it doesn't work with Skype here instead of skype's support
[09:14] <FreedomMaster> Flannel: that's what i did but i am not sure if i did it right, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub#Recovery Using the Unofficial "Super Grub Disk"
[09:15] <Name141> Flannel: it's an old old system, maybe it just needed a while to 'install' ?
[09:15] <FreedomMaster> Flannel: am i suposed to run supergrub from the cd or from windows?
[09:15] <Flannel> FreedomMaster: You boot to the supergrub disc after you've burned it (like a liveCD)
[09:15] <quizme> can somebody explain to me what tcpdump is all about ?
[09:15] <jetole> Hey guys, there is a package in karmic called puppet-testsuite and as far as I can tell, the description seems to be linked to the main puppet files (puppet and/or puppetmaster). How do I find out what that package does or what it is for?
[09:15] <ikonia> quizme: it captures tcp packets
[09:16] <jetole> quizme: it's a packet sniffer on the command line similar to wireshark
[09:16] <theadmin> ...puppet?
[09:16] <quizme> ikonia, it's just showing me ip addresses adnd time stamps though and "ack" [nop,nop....] length 37
[09:16] <ikonia> quizme: that's correct
[09:16] <theadmin> ..."puppetmaster" reminds me of Ghost in the Shell :/
[09:16] <jetole> theadmin: puppet is like cfengine2 only newer and more user friendly.
[09:16] <ikonia> theadmin: it's an admin tool
[09:16] <theadmin> ikonia: oh
[09:16] <jetole> http://www.puppetlabs.com/
[09:17] <FreedomMaster> Flannel: can you tell me where i download http://forjamari.linex.org/projects/supergrub/ ?
[09:17] <quizme> ikonia: where is the text content of those packets ?  can i dump those too ?
[09:17] <jetole> quizme: look at -A
[09:17] <jetole> or -X or -x
[09:17] <jetole> or RTFM
[09:17] <ikonia> quizme: `depends, packets aren't normally sent clear text like that by default
[09:17] <theadmin> ubottu: rtfm | jetole
[09:17] <jetole> quizme: wireshark is better for beginers but if you are capturing a lot of traffic in real time wireshark tends to sh*t bricks
[09:18] <duleep> when file copy to pen drive PC get stack anybody know the resoan?
[09:18] <quizme> jetole: i don't like GUIs
[09:18] <quizme> ikonia... oh. but they're not encrypted thought right unless it's HTTPS
[09:18] <ikonia> quizme: not encypted no
[09:18] <jetole> quizme: then please take  look at the manual page for tcpdump to get a better understanding of the options
[09:18] <jetole> theadmin: was that better?
[09:19] <sacarlson> how can I get jackd to run on Ubuntu 9.1?  I tried to install linux-rt and it fails to even boot on this computer
[09:19] <theadmin> jetole: Yep, a lot :D
[09:19] <duleep> when file copy to pen drive PC get stack anybody know the resoan?
[09:19] <jetole> ;)
[09:19] <asmo> I'm getting the following problem while using mod_mono with Ubuntu 10.04 (after upgrade from 9.x): [error] Failed to connect to mod-mono-server after several attempts to spawn the process.
[09:19] <Flannel> FreedomMaster: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[09:19] <FreedomMaster> Flannel: it says download and install utno a disk, but theres no link on the page linked
[09:19] <asmo> Anyone who experienced similar problem?
[09:19] <asmo> (s)
[09:19] <quizme> ikonia: i added -A and now it's pushing out weird characters.
[09:19] <karol_> do anybody know how to fix  know how to fix
[09:19] <karol_>  actions.cpp:235: error: large integer implicitly truncated to unsigned type
[09:19] <karol_>  error ?
[09:19] <jetole> theadmin (or anyone else): Any idea how I can get a better understanding of what this package is for when the description is too generic and seems to be what would describe the other related packages?
[09:19] <AAA_awright> This bug is hard to parse, has a fix been issued yet? I've been affected by it since the last upgrade but I can't tell what is what https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal-info/+bug/415023?comments=all
[09:20] <duleep> when file copy to pen drive PC get stack anybody know the resoan?
[09:20] <jetole> karol_: thats a c++ programming error. I don't think this is the right room to ask
[09:20] <jetole> duleep: what do you mean?
[09:20] <FreedomMaster> Flannel: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10921 which one is the bootable one though?
[09:20] <theadmin> bleh. I have two mice (actually, a mouse and touchpad) and sometimes, only one of them "works", other does nothing. When i disable touchpad/disconnect mouse, the freezing stops. what the?
[09:21] <Name141> does anybody know when you install eggdrop from the repos, where you put your config file?
[09:21] <jetole> theadmin: sounds like a bug worthy of launchpad
[09:21] <jetole> _sounds_
[09:21] <jetole> Name141: did you see any in /etc?
[09:21] <duleep> jetole: file can't copy to pen drive? computer will get stack
[09:22] <jetole> duleep: you mean stuck? as in frozen?
[09:22] <duleep> jetole: yap
[09:22] <adammj> how to remove automatic login from ubuntu
[09:22] <theadmin> jetole: What was the command to collect system data that might be useful for bug reports, again?
[09:22] <theadmin> adammj: Which version?
[09:22] <Flannel> FreedomMaster: down at the bottom, under "Cdrom", version 0.9799
[09:22] <adammj> theadmin : 9.10
[09:23] <theadmin> adammj: System - Administration - Login Window
[09:23] <jetole> duleep: corrupt file system maybe, more likely damaged thumb drive. could happen if it's old since flash media has a definitte life span
[09:23] <theadmin> Was "login screen" before XD
[09:23] <duleep> usb file system is windows FAT
[09:23] <jetole> theadmin: I forget. I typically just go to the launchpad website
[09:23] <nameless> hi
[09:23] <adammj> theadmin :  thanks  :)
[09:23] <nameless> hi to all of you
[09:23] <theadmin> jetole: Well... this should also do
[09:24] <Name141> jetole: It seems it's eggdrop options configfilehere
[09:24] <jetole> theadmin: last time I tried I think launchpad website actually told me which command and suggested that first
[09:24] <duleep> jetole: that happen every file
[09:24] <Name141> jetole: so I guess I can use multiconfig files just by eggdrop /path/here/config1 , eggdrop /path/here2/config2
[09:24] <jetole> duleep: then that kinda back what I said but I am also saying that is only one of the possibilities
[09:24] <jetole> duleep: run dmesg | tail
[09:24] <theadmin> Is it true that in near future Ubuntu will be stopping support for /etc/init.d and use /etc/init instead?
[09:24] <jetole> duleep: and tail /var/log/syslog
[09:24] <jetole> theadmin: probably
[09:25] <jetole> theadmin: they have already begun
[09:25] <FreedomMaster> Flannel: this one http://prdownload.berlios.de/supergrub/super_grub_disk_0.9799.iso ? do i burn it as an .iso ? will that work to boot from?
[09:25] <jetole> theadmin: /etc/init.d is old
[09:25] <duleep> plz tell how to track that gub i send bug report
[09:25] <triptec> I'm looking for a free online backup where I can sync my configfiles and stuff just using the commandline, does anyone know of any?
[09:25] <jetole> theadmin: personally I prefer daemontools from djb
[09:26] <theadmin> jetole: daemontools? Isnt' that a windows thing to mount ISO images? o_O
[09:26] <nameless> hi can any one help me how can i install xampp in my computer
[09:26] <sacarlson> is there a multimedia-optimized kernel for ubuntu 9.1.   I can't get the linux-rt to boot on this computer
[09:26] <k0ala> how do i see if the phone i have connected to ubuntu desktop is getting detected?
[09:26] <jetole> theadmin: maybe but it's also the name of a completely unrelated tool in unix that does what init.d and upstart do
[09:26] <nameless> hi can any one help me how can i install xampp in my computer
[09:26] <jetole> theadmin: but yeah, I think the program with the same name in windows does just that
[09:27] <jetole> triptec: there are lots but I think rdiff-backup may be up your ally. It's easy and does the job well
[09:28] <nameless> hi can any one help me how can i install xampp in my computer
[09:28] <jetole> theadmin: daemontools does what upstart does however it's also designed to watch for processes which crash and restart them
[09:28] <k0ala> nameless, its easy
[09:28] <jetole> nameless: we heard you the first three times
[09:28] <jetole> nameless: what is xampp?
[09:29] <nameless> its a web server
[09:29] <theadmin> nameless: You'd better use LAMP which is bundled with ubuntu. Run "sudo tasksel install lamp-server"
[09:29] <ikonia> nameless: you may want to look at lamp instead, xampp is a standalone platform
[09:29] <k0ala> nameless, the instructions are on the apache-friends site
[09:29] <ikonia> !lamp | nameless
[09:29] <nameless> ok i will try that
[09:29] <jetole> nameless I don't see it in apt-cache. Why not try a well known one like apache on nginex
[09:29] <jetole> oh lamp?
[09:29] <jetole> dselect
[09:29] <nameless> ok thx
[09:30] <nameless> god bless to you all
[09:30] <jetole> no not dselect... whats the name of that program
[09:30] <theadmin> xampp is a huge meh and has many vulnerabilities anyway
[09:30] <k0ala> how do i see if the phone i have connected to ubuntu desktop is getting detected?
[09:30] <theadmin> jetole: tasksel
[09:30] <jetole> yeah
[09:30] <theadmin> jetole: TASK SELection
[09:30] <jetole> no I knew when you said it the first time theadmin, just forgot what it was called
[09:30] <k0ala> nameless try django
[09:30] <theadmin> jetole: Ah
[09:30] <jetole> I had to use tasksel when setting up preseed a couple weeks ago
[09:31] <theadmin> jetole: I usually use it to install/remove desktop environments :D
[09:31] <fuorviatos> hello
[09:31] <jetole> theadmin: well when you're setting up preseed. I couldn't find a clear way to tell it what base to use for the OS and after some googling I stumbled on tasksel
[09:32] <theadmin> jetole: i dunno what is pressed :D sorry
[09:32] <jetole> theadmin: automated linux installs
[09:32] <FreedomMaster> are .iso bootable-from?
[09:33] <theadmin> FreedomMaster: You have to burn em, or use VirtualBox/VMware/something-like-zat
[09:33] <jetole> theadmin: I installed 3 system tonight where I booted the computer off of pxe (network based boot device) and the system did a complete automated install
[09:33] <jetole> theadmin: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/powerpc/preseed-intro.html
[09:33] <theadmin> jetole: sweeet. But I usually only do single installs so quite useless for me... drakeg, stop this nickchanging
[09:33] <FreedomMaster> theadmin, i understand, but is an iso a cd i can stick in and boot from?
[09:33] <fuorviatos> I've got a little problem. When I open a new window in Ubuntu it gets maximized by itself, automatically. I can resize it manually with "alt" but this last only to the moment I relaunch it, then it maximizes again. Maybe I removed some package. Can you give me a hint please?
[09:34] <theadmin> FreedomMaster: Depends on what is this ISO made of :P What ISO you have there?
[09:34] <drakeG> the every time i change my Gateway it asks for authentication how to remove that limitation
[09:34] <FreedomMaster> supergrub disk theadmin
[09:34] <jetole> theadmin: I work with a ever growing cluster of VM hosts and I got tired of doing manual installs on all the VM hosts and their guests.
[09:34] <theadmin> FreedomMaster: Yep, burn it to a CD as an image, it will be bootable
[09:34] <jetole> theadmin: hence why I am also setting up puppet
[09:35] <FreedomMaster> theadmin: same with ubuntu livecd?
[09:35] <theadmin> FreedomMaster: yes
[09:35] <drakeG> The every time i Change my Gateway it asks For Authentication how to remove that limitation ............
[09:35] <drakeG> can anyone hlp me
[09:35] <drakeG> sos
[09:36] <FreedomMaster> theadmin: is there a period after which i can stop worrying about viruses on OS's that are....virusable, like say, i dont think new viruses were written for windows 98 after a while
[09:36] <jetole> theadmin: puppet manages everything I want it to across all hosts and if someone changes something to be different from the puppet policy, puppet corrects it. i.e. I can say I always want this user to exist with this password, this package installed, this service running, a file to exist here with this content etc etc etc and puppet makes sure that it's always there on all puppet systems.
[09:36] <theadmin> FreedomMaster: You don't worry about virii on Linux, there is only like... 3?
[09:37] <theadmin> jetole: Nice but why are you telling me all this? :D
[09:37] <FreedomMaster> theadmin: i know, but is there a rationale or logic in thinking, that after a while no new viruses come up after the latest release, i mean i imagine that there are no new viruses for windows 98 that arent already coverd by the common antiviruses
[09:37] <jetole> theadmin: because it's cool and I thought you would appreciate it
[09:38] <theadmin> jetole: Well, I do... Well, if i'd ever be managing a big cluster, would know where to start
[09:38] <wcgary83> does anybody know how to give firefox a command line argument to make it open to a certain website? (i will put this into easystroke!)
[09:38] <jetole> theadmin: there you go. lol
[09:38] <theadmin> wcgary83: firefox http://www.example.org
[09:38] <wcgary83> that easy?
[09:38] <wcgary83> thanks!
[09:38] <theadmin> wcgary83: yeah :D
[09:38] <osiris> Is anyone using Beta2?
[09:39] <nsadmin> was that easy or what! unexpected, huh?
[09:39] <goviel> yup used to use it as an alarm firefox pandora.com
[09:39] <wise_crypt> !mysql
[09:39] <theadmin> osiris: Lucid support is in #ubuntu+1
[09:39] <osiris> theadmin, Thanks
[09:39] <wcgary83> hell yeah too good to be true!
[09:40] <jetole> osiris: in 7 days you can come back and ask about lucid in here
[09:41]  * jetole was too late... oh well
[09:41] <theadmin> oh boy, 7 days... :D Well, I will finally see what do they all mean by "LTS" :D
[09:41] <jetole> hehe, yeah I have been waiting for the LTS for a while
[09:41] <theadmin> jetole: I just started my Ubuntu road on Interpid, that being 8.10, so haven't seen a single LTS yet
[09:41] <red2kic> theadmin: I couldn't wait. I have been using "LTS" for an hour now. :X
[09:41] <d7777777> What is the name for the paste command triggered when I press the both mouse keys?
[09:42] <d7777777> and what do I do when it stops working?!
[09:42] <jetole> theadmin: it just means longer support for updates. 3 years on the desktop and 5 on the server vs. 18 months on both for not LTS
[09:42] <theadmin> jetole: +veeeery stable
[09:42] <jetole> theadmin: true
[09:43] <theadmin> Maybe my mic will start working? :D
[09:43] <iflema> d7777777 i had no idea.... thanks for that..... mine works good :)
[09:43] <jetole> d7777777: don't know the answer to either of those questions but don't you have a third button like clicking the scroll wheel?
[09:43] <okokokok> i am using ubuntu with vmware, i started a web server on it which is accesible within vmware, but not accessible to anyone else. but when i switch back to windows i can't access the server. does anybody know how to fix that?
[09:43] <nameless> how can i use lamp. i don't have the idea on how to use it. help!
[09:43] <theadmin> nameless: I can help out, but channel is too noisy. If you don't mind, pm me
[09:43] <nameless> i already install it.
[09:43] <d7777777> jetole: it doesn't work either
[09:44] <jetole> okokokok: I would look at network data, firewall, etc.
[09:44] <fuorviatos> I've got a little problem. When I open a new window in Ubuntu it gets maximized by itself, automatically. I can resize it manually with "alt" but this last only to the moment I relaunch it, then it maximizes again. Maybe I removed some package. Can you give me a hint please?
[09:44] <jetole> okokokok: also #ubuntu-server
[09:44] <theadmin> That "paste with middlemouse" is a huge o_O
[09:44] <masterkorp> can anyone help me with vim?
[09:44] <d7777777> I don't know how come I'm the only one facing this problem, it happens to me on two different ubuntu installations.
[09:44] <masterkorp> my auto ident doesnt work
[09:44] <masterkorp> http://pastebin.com/Puhg1hC9
[09:44] <FreedomMaster> 8=X
[09:44] <jetole> masterkorp: of coarse people can help you vim. They are in the #vim room
[09:45] <oneBit> guten tag falls wer deutsch ist^^ hello i got one question. i am now using ubuntu 9.04 and i want to install 9.10. will my data get lost then and i have to configure my usernames etc. again? or will it just update the files and my settings will be kept?
[09:45] <jetole> oneBit: it will reconfigure a lot of stuff...
[09:46] <jetole> anything in your home dir will still be there
[09:46] <jetole> some config data in /etc may be lost when it updates to a new package
[09:46] <iflema> oneBit do you have acces to an internet connection when/where ya gonna do this upgrade
[09:47] <jetole> oneBit: I have had some issues with upgrades before for example I use a mac keyboard and the keyboard stopped recognizing special keys after a upgrade
[09:47] <oneBit> hm...
[09:48] <jetole> oneBit: some stuff will need to be reconfigured, it's supposed to be minimal but not always. All your personal data will still be there. I however tend to do full re installs for the most part these days when the time comes
[09:48] <oneBit> i just updated firefox etc. and saw in the window that i can upgrade ubuntu to 9.10 , and if the packages, installed programms, and anything in my home folder will be kept i wanted to upgrade ubuntu^^
[09:49] <iflema> oneBit GO.....
[09:49] <jetole> oneBit: you can and everything in your home folder will be kept but be prepeared for the odd program here and there that may need to be reconfigured
[09:49] <oneBit> alright
[09:49] <jetole> just don't do it on a live critical server
[09:50] <oneBit> what is a "live critical server"?
[09:50] <jetole> it is a server which is live and you are hosting critical data on it
[09:50] <jetole> i.e. a web server where you can't afford downtime
[09:50] <oneBit> okay
[09:51]  * jetole goes to play with puppet
[09:52] <oneBit> i started the update^^
[09:52]  * oneBit waiting for Ubuntu Restart... :D
[09:53] <monotmax> Hey, when is the RC iso ready to load?
[09:54] <theadmin> Hmnh, I thought it should be out by now
[09:54] <monotmax> mh were can i find it ?!
[09:55] <oneBit> thx to jetole, cya later :D
[09:55] <theadmin> guess not :/
[09:55] <red2kic> monotmax: Be patient, my little grasshopper. It usually comes out at 7am-9am-ish. I think.
[09:56] <theadmin> red2kic: It's 12PM here.
[09:56] <monotmax> 11PM here :D
[09:57] <red2kic> 4 AM. ;(
[09:57] <SiReN> hey guys, Maybe I'm lazy, or maybe I'm just going round in circles but I would really appreciate some help with my ubuntu dual hdd boot...
[09:58] <wise_crypt> !grub | SiReN
[09:58] <theadmin> wise_crypt: That is not very helpful
[09:58] <theadmin> SiReN: What's the prob?
[09:59] <SiReN> I have windows 7 on my one sata and ubuntu on another sata hdd but on reboot I get no grub
[09:59] <SiReN> i have to enter the bios manually and select the ubuntu drive so i can boot it
[09:59] <CaNoc> how can I disable auto start service in U 10.04?
[09:59] <wise_crypt> theadmin: it helps lol
[10:00] <wise_crypt> !grub | SiReN
[10:00] <theadmin> CaNoc: Lucid help in #ubuntu+1
[10:00] <theadmin> ...what on earth is "auto start service"
[10:01] <nikolam> I think that this inability to report bugs on Launchpad for non-Ubuntu packages wil hider further development of newer applications.
[10:02] <nikolam> Launchpad can not be used for buf reporting on other projects then Ubuntu as I see now.
[10:02] <nikolam> bug
[10:02] <Wipster> hey all, I'm on 9.10 and my screen went black and I have a nice message in my tray pointing to http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges I'v had this before I guess its still not fixed? heh
[10:03] <theadmin> nikolam: No, any project hosted on Launchpad, which uses LP bugtracker will be able to get bugs reported on LP
[10:03] <nikolam> There is also no GUI for reporting bugs, just terminal command and that is just bad for users that want to report something but are afraid of command lines
[10:04] <theadmin> nikolam: No. Help -> Report a problem. in any application.
[10:04] <Name141> I installed eggdrop, but instead of looking in /usr/lib/eggdrop/modules, it's trying to look in /home/n1/modules for the modules.
[10:04] <Name141> Is there a way to fix that?
[10:04] <nikolam> theadmin, well, I tried to report a bug that was catched witha pport and it refused to report it, because it is "not genuine ubuntu application"
[10:04] <nikolam> we need hologram stickers to be just like ms.
[10:04] <theadmin> That's exactly why we get so many reports about yelp, because people go to this "Help" in System and try to report bugs from there %)
[10:04] <red2kic> Name141: Look for config file or symbolic link.
[10:04] <nikolam> theadmin, that is not solution. if app is crashing or something.
[10:05] <AdvoWork> is there a way I can see why my ubuntu client isnt connecting to the internet?
[10:05] <Name141> red2kic: I see set mod-path "modules/"
[10:05] <theadmin> nikolam: Well, i know... Indeed it is bleh
[10:05] <Name141> red2kic: I will try changing that to the /usr/lib/eggdrop/modules
[10:05] <red2kic> Name141: Okay. :o
[10:06] <nikolam> well, thats what I am talking. GUI for error reporting that can be used for all applications in their respective projects.
[10:06] <nikolam> "not genuine ubuntu" sounds.. terriby wrong, too
[10:07] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: be more specific can the client ping its address
[10:07] <AdvoWork> wise_crypt, ive got a client pc directly connected to my adsl router, so adsl > router < pc running ubuntu
[10:08] <howlymowly> hi poeple.. short question: I want to use virtualenv with python2.5 in ubuntu (which has also installed python 2.6 by default) how do I do that?
[10:08] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: what ifconfig tells
[10:08] <ikonia> howlymowly: what is virtualenv ?
[10:09] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: traceroute to router from the client
[10:09] <Name141> red2kic: that did it.
[10:09] <red2kic> Name141: Great. :)
[10:09] <Name141> red2kic: I just need to make a real config file now ;o
[10:10] <howlymowly> ikonia: it sets you up a "virtual" python installation in your home directory (makes links to the python executable in your ~/bin directory, etc.. ) that way you have a completly functional python environment in your home directory..  when you do "easy_install" for example, new modules will be install in your home directory etc...
[10:10] <intok> Anyone else got an HP PSC 1410 printer? http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-PSC_1400 I can print in color just fine, but I can't get greyscale printing to work, it sounds like it's printing, but it doesn't put anything to the paper. I.E. the print head is moving but nothing is coming out. No, it's not out of black, if I do a B/W photocopy it prints fine.
[10:11] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: adsl ip publix 202.202.xxx.xxx router/gw/nat 192.168.1.1 client 192.168.10 >> client ping 192.168.1.1 >> ping 202.202.xxx.xxx
[10:12] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: traceroute www.google.com
[10:13] <AdvoWork> the client pc hasnt got an ip address for some reason, also traceroute www.google.com shows name or service not known
[10:13] <c_nick> how to launch the archieve manager from the terminal
[10:13] <erUSUL> c_nick: file-roller &
[10:13] <AdvoWork> im wondering if its because the router is set to not dhcp, can i manually assign?
[10:14] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: traceroute www.google.com >> pastebin
[10:14] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: yes you can what is the ip of the router
[10:14] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: yes you can what is the *ip and subnet of the router
[10:14] <c_nick> thanks erUSUL
[10:17] <muncky> hi guys, I'm having a NFS problem with my freshly installed ubuntu server. When using exportfs I get the message : exportfs: Warning: /home/frank/files does not support NFS export. Any help would be appreciated !
[10:17] <AdvoWork> wise_crypt, the router is 192.168.0.4 subnet is 255.255.255.0
[10:17] <AdvoWork> i tried adding it through the gui but the OK button was greyed out even after i filled the details in
[10:18] <howlymowly> alright... ikoniai found out: you do that with the additional parameter:   "--python=pyhon2.5"
[10:18] <howlymowly> * ikonia
[10:18] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.8/24 | route add default gw 192.168.0.4
[10:19] <AdvoWork> wise_crypt, 0.8 being an ip for the client? do i have todo /24? im going to assign it .136 so is that 192.168.0.136/24?
[10:20] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: thats ok
[10:20] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: dont forget to give default gw
[10:21] <AdvoWork> wise_crypt, i even did sudo before, but i get SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted
[10:21] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: sudo su
[10:22] <erUSUL> !rootshell
[10:22] <erUSUL> AdvoWork: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[10:22] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: maybe not in sudo list just sudo su
[10:22] <AdvoWork> ok, that worked
[10:22] <AdvoWork> so in theory, it should work now?
[10:22] <AdvoWork> ie internet access etc?
[10:23] <wise_crypt> erUSUL: thx AdvoWork: ifconfig eth0 up
[10:23] <erUSUL> muncky:  /home/frank/files is ext* filesystem ?
[10:24] <AdvoWork> i can get to my router now
[10:24] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: cross your finger and hope for the best :)
[10:24] <AdvoWork> cant get on the internet though
[10:24] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: lol
[10:24] <muncky> erUSUL : What do you mean by that exactly?
[10:24] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: ping 192.168.0.4
[10:24] <Name141> how do I check for important updates, and update them through the shell?
[10:24] <muncky> erUSUL : Sorry I'm really new to this
[10:24] <erUSUL> muncky: is a unis filesystem it is not ntfs mount or vfat
[10:24] <erUSUL> muncky: is a unix filesystem it is not ntfs mount or vfat
[10:24] <hateball> Name141: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[10:25] <azer__> hi
[10:25] <erUSUL> Name141: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[10:25]  * erUSUL aouch
[10:25] <muncky> erUSUL : So that means I will not be able to mount any directory of that drive?
[10:25] <azer__> salut
[10:26] <erUSUL> muncky: no i'm asking if that files directory is in the linux partition or is a windows partition you mounted there ?
[10:26] <Name141> that would be the same as if I waited on the "update manager" to tell me there is an update?
[10:26] <erUSUL> Name141: yes
[10:26] <muncky> erUSUL : It is a linux partition
[10:26] <Name141> (and installed them through it)
[10:26] <Name141> OK
[10:27] <erUSUL> muncky: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/197499
[10:27] <zebastian> Flannel: so i just boot from the live cd, go to gnome partition editor, then what do i do? create new partition?
[10:28] <AdvoWork> wise_crypt, i can ping 0.4 fine.
[10:28] <zebastian> shrink the size of the partition that ubuntu is currently using?
[10:28] <AdvoWork> its just the internet thats a problem
[10:28] <Name141> erUSUL: "No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[10:28] <Name141> "
[10:29] <Name141> What is the point of it even trying after it finds there is none to upgrade? lol
[10:29] <AdvoWork> wise_crypt, can i change my dns of eth0?
[10:29] <erUSUL> Name141: you've told it to try anyway
[10:29] <Name141> I see.
[10:30] <zebastian> help, i need to figure out how to make space for dualing booting on windows, i currently have ubuntu use the whole single partition, i dont want ubuntu to get erased or touched at all, so i understand i have to boot from the livecd
[10:30] <muncky> erUSUL : http://paste.ubuntu.com/420320/
[10:30] <zebastian> then what
[10:30] <erUSUL> AdvoWork: if you are configuring eth0 in terminal is easier to use the interfeces file ( /etc/network/interfaces )
[10:30] <geekphreak> hello all
[10:30] <geekphreak> erUSUL: howdy
[10:30]  * erUSUL \o/
[10:31] <muncky> erUSUL : I'm trying to mount a directory on sda1
[10:31] <erUSUL> muncky: so why are you using nfs ?
[10:32] <zebastian> help
[10:32] <AdvoWork> erUSUL, that file just contains:  auto lo   then iface lo inet loopback. Nothing else
[10:32] <muncky> erUSUL : So I can write files from my client pc to the server
[10:32] <geekphreak> zebastian: ask if someone can, they will help
[10:33] <zebastian> can someone help me out? i need to know how to create free space to install windows and dual boot
[10:33] <iflema> zebastian youll need to do it twice.... the livecd thing.... first time.... use gparted (back up important datat)to resize the partition (towards the back) and create a new partition in the space for windows... up front.....
[10:33] <zebastian> without ubuntu being touch
[10:33] <trijntje> zebastian: its better to do it the other way around, install windows first and ubuntu second
[10:33] <zebastian> iflema: ok, i dont understand what towards the abck and up front means
[10:34] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: nano /etc/resolv.conf
[10:34] <geekphreak> always install windows first
[10:34] <zebastian> i know this much, i already havre ubuntu, specifically hardy with a lot of customization
[10:34] <zebastian> i have alrady backed up my files
[10:34] <VSpike> Here's my iptables setup... wlan0 is local, eth0 is WAN. local is 10.0.0.0/24. http://pastebin.org/167236 ... Can anyone tell me how I'd redirect an external port to an internal machine?
[10:34] <zebastian> nevertheless i dont want to have to reinstall ubuntu again
[10:34] <zebastian> at all
[10:34] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: *sudo /etc/resolv.conf
[10:35] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: *sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[10:35] <trijntje> zebastian: installing windows will remove grub, so you cannot enter ubuntu
[10:35] <iflema> zebastian youll see when ya in gparted..... put winblows first and after win install go backinto livecd and reinstall grub
[10:35] <erUSUL> AdvoWork: you just have to add an stanza for eth0; hold on.
[10:35] <erUSUL> AdvoWork: http://paste.ubuntu.com/420327/
[10:35] <trijntje> zebastian: so after the windows install you have to reinstall grub
[10:35] <geekphreak> does he have grub2 iflema?
[10:35] <erUSUL> AdvoWork: change the ip's to match your configuration. also make sure you have the package "resolvconf" installed
[10:36] <zebastian> i understand and accept the fact that i have to reinstall grub afterwards, but i am not getting  the put windows first
[10:36] <iflema> geekpgreak ask him
[10:36] <erUSUL> muncky: what OS is you client machine ?
[10:36] <zebastian> i know i havre to free up space and that theres no need to make a ntsf partition
[10:36] <zebastian> but i still wonder what putting windows first means
[10:36] <iflema> geekphreak imean... ask him
[10:36] <muncky> erUSUL : ubuntu 10.04
[10:36] <Dovid> hi. i am trying to get the status of mysql on a ubuntu sesrver. I get this error: http://pastebin.com/ih7BbHMQ
[10:36] <geekphreak> zebastian:  then how do you plan to go bout it,  :p
[10:36] <erUSUL> muncky: ok; so you are tryin to export /dev/sdb1               1       17881   143629101    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:37] <erUSUL> ?
[10:37] <AdvoWork> hmmm theres a few entries in there which are fine, so if theyre in there why wouldnt internet work?
[10:37] <zebastian> geekphreak: i have to boot from the livecd, then i have to resize something to create free space for windows
[10:37] <geekphreak> zebastian:  i foy uinstall windows, grub is gonna be taken off , you will have to reintall grub not ubuntu
[10:37] <zebastian> how do i do this? what does putting windows first mean
[10:37] <geekphreak> zebastian:  ok
[10:38] <iflema> zebastian because windows is fundamentaly flawed/crap... what version of winblows?
[10:38] <zebastian> windows 7
[10:38] <theadmin> iflema: How would version matter? :/
[10:38] <zebastian> but waht i  mean is
[10:38] <muncky> erUSUL : No I'm trying to export and mount the home directory on the sda1 drive
[10:38] <zebastian> first i get on gparted from the livecd
[10:38] <zebastian> now liberating or freeing up the space
[10:38] <zebastian> necessary for windows
[10:38] <zebastian> how do i do that?
[10:38] <iflema> theadmin why would it not
[10:38] <erUSUL> muncky: that makes no sense; care to rephrase?
[10:38] <theadmin> zebastian: You choose the partition, you right click it, you "Resize", you "Apply"
[10:39] <geekphreak> zebastian:  backup data first, thats very important
[10:39] <theadmin> iflema: It will tear off the Great Universal Bootloader anyway.
[10:39] <zebastian> geekphreak: i have already
[10:39] <erUSUL> muncky: you want to mount /dev/sda1 somewhere in your home directory ?
[10:39] <wise_crypt> !grub | zebastian
[10:39] <iflema> theadmin and ya goota put it back....
[10:40] <Fudge> hi, anyone know why when i log in with any user desktop loads and i go back to gdm?
[10:40] <theadmin> iflema: yah, not much of a deal, just a grub-install, a chroot, and a update-grub
[10:40] <AdvoWork> sorted it, it now works, erUSUL, wise_crypt  thanks for the help
[10:40] <wise_crypt> zebastian:  Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[10:40]  * iflema :|
[10:40] <wise_crypt> AdvoWork: your welcome
[10:40] <erUSUL> AdvoWork: no problem
[10:40] <zebastian> ok
[10:40] <zebastian> so first step
[10:40] <zebastian> right click
[10:40] <zebastian> resize
[10:41] <FloodBot2> zebastian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:41] <zebastian> and apply
[10:41] <zebastian> the resize will create empty space
[10:41] <theadmin> ...:/
[10:41] <Fullmoon> Is it possible to receive updates a few packages (for example git) in non-six-month cycles? Or in other words: Can I fetch a few packages from the unstable tree, and update core six-monthly?
[10:41] <zebastian> i suppose that when i am installing windows it will ask me where do iwant to stick it in
[10:42] <zebastian> and i stick in the empty area
[10:42] <geekphreak> zebastian:  can i ask you something?
[10:42] <zebastian> geekphreak: sure
[10:42] <muncky> erUSUL : no, On my client PC I want to mount a directory from the server, so I can write dorectly onto the servers harddrive
[10:42] <geekphreak> zebastian:  why do you plan to install windows, to test it out or you need it?
[10:42] <erUSUL> Fullmoon: maybe via backports or ppa's
[10:42] <zebastian> there are some language acquisition programs that wine and virtualbox wont run
[10:42] <zebastian> that are for windows
[10:42] <zebastian> specifically
[10:42] <zebastian> since i need to learn these languages
[10:43] <zebastian> i thought it worth dual booting
[10:43] <erUSUL> muncky: yes; but what directory of the server are you trying to export ?
[10:43] <geekphreak> like what?
[10:43] <wise_crypt> zebastian: use virtualbox
[10:43] <zebastian> so i stick it in the empty hole right? the windows
[10:43] <geekphreak> zebastian:  fair enough makes sens good luck buddy
[10:43] <muncky> doesn't matter, at the moment I'm trying to mount /home/frank
[10:43] <zebastian> and i only have 1 gb of memory
[10:43] <zebastian> ok brb wish me luck
[10:43] <muncky> erUSUL : It can also be an other directory like /Share/Frank, or whatever
[10:44] <geekphreak> wise_crypt:  thats why i asked him that, if he just wanted to test he could use virtuabox, to save so much hassel
[10:44] <erUSUL> muncky: well as the error report i linked earlier exports with spaces in the paths can fail with the error message you got
[10:45] <muncky> erUSUL : the weird thing is that I'm not using spaces
[10:45] <muncky> erUSUL : shall I send you my fstab and exports, maybe then you will know what I mean
[10:45] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, is it really noticable if I run 32bit Ubuntu on 64bit hardware (intel core 2 duo or i7 processors and stuff)?
[10:46] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: hmmm
[10:46] <phrearch> hi
[10:46] <SmokeyD> The thing is that I am always having trouble with software on amd64 ubuntu versions
[10:46] <sacarlson> I installed linux-rt on ubuntu 9.1 and fails to boot with error nfsmount:  need a path with 2.6.31-9-rt
[10:46] <phrearch> is there a way to force apt-get to remove an app, if some config files are missing?
[10:46] <rockdboat> Can anyone suggest how could I build an ubuntu image from minimal ubuntu install so as to be able to program in the latest stable release of Qt libraries
[10:46] <erUSUL> muncky: well i trust you checked for spaces :).
[10:46] <SmokeyD> there are plugins for firefox, flash, adobe AIR, etc which always prove problematic on amd64 linux versions
[10:46] <erUSUL> muncky: if the exported directory is clean then i dunno what is going on
[10:47] <erUSUL> muncky: maybe in #ubuntu-server you get more help.
[10:47] <muncky> erUSUL : ok thanx for your help
[10:47] <geekphreak> btw hello iflema
[10:48] <rockdboat> Can anyone suggest how could I build an ubuntu image from minimal ubuntu install so as to be able to program in the latest stable release of Qt libraries
[10:49] <rockdboat> Can anyone suggest how could I build an ubuntu image from minimal ubuntu install so as to be able to program in the latest stable release of Qt libraries
[10:50] <sacarlson> rockdboat maybe the ubuntu server addition I think it doesn't have a gui at that point
[10:50] <ciskinho> hola alguien me podria ayudar con un problema q tengo de ubuntu?
[10:50] <Dovid> hi. i am trying to get the status of mysql on a ubuntu sesrver. I get this error: http://pastebin.com/ih7BbHMQ
[10:50] <erUSUL> !es | ciskinho
[10:50] <ciskinho> #ubuntu-es
[10:51] <wise_crypt>  /j #ubuntu-es
 thanks will look at it
[10:51] <wise_crypt> ciskinho: /j #ubuntu-es
[10:51] <geekphreak> Dovid:  thats not how you check status
[10:52] <VSpike> Here's my iptables setup... wlan0 is local, eth0 is WAN. local is 10.0.0.0/24. http://pastebin.org/167236 ... Can anyone tell me how I'd redirect an external port to an internal machine?
[10:54] <hatory> hi.. how i put a shell script initialize automatically?
[10:54] <VitorAvelino> what time rc will be release?
[10:55] <baraka> hi, using sudo apt-get -d install "pachage", where will be downloaded the package?
[10:55] <geekphreak> baraka:  /var/cache/apt/archive ?
[10:56] <baraka> yes it's true
[10:57] <geekphreak> Dovid:  you there?
[10:57] <iflema> geekphreak hello 2 U
[10:58] <vak> lsh or openssh? what would you recommend?..
[10:58] <geekphreak> Dovid: mysqladmin -u root -p status  << get mysql status
[10:58] <Besogon> hello. How can be got chanels list in emathy?
[10:58] <spissel> hi
[10:58] <vak> !lsh
[10:59] <vak> !ssh
[10:59] <rockdboat> Can anyone suggest how could I build an ubuntu image from minimal ubuntu install so as to be able to program in the latest stable release of Qt libraries
[10:59] <DJones> !remaster | rockdboat I think is what you're looking for
[10:59] <geekphreak> rockdboat:  there was a tool for it , hold on let me look
[11:00] <geekphreak> DJones: thank you :)
[11:00] <tottto-drummond> is the RC of Lucid Lynx out yet ?
[11:00] <geekphreak> tottto-drummond:  april 29
[11:00] <geekphreak> oh rc
[11:00] <tottto-drummond> yes.. it is supposed to be out today
[11:00] <DJones> rockdboat: geekphreak Its not something I've used, so apart from knowing about ubottu's link, thats as far as I can help
[11:01] <geekphreak> DJones:  there was a tool for it mate, sys something , what i can think is install system in command line mode using alternate cd,  , then apt-get qt new release, then use that tool to make image
[11:02] <geekphreak> if that ^^ made any sense
[11:02] <chrisw1> do I ahev to do somethign after I change /etc/group for the changes to take effect?
[11:03] <kalmah> DCC SEND "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX" 0 0 0
[11:03] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[11:03] <VSpike> chrisw1: log out
[11:04] <VSpike> or sudo -iu $USER
[11:05] <VSpike> chrisw1: if it s a graphical program you need, start a new shell and start the program from the command line.
[11:05] <rockdboat> thanks for the links <DJones> <ubottu> & <geekfreek>
[11:06] <a`> DCC SEND "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX" 0 0 0
[11:06] <geekphreak> rockdboat:  np mate
[11:09] <beyondcr> dose anyone know if creative xfi sound cards will be supported in 10.4?
[11:09] <chrisw1> VSpike: huh? this is a server process
[11:09] <beyondcr> I am going nuts trying to get mine to work
[11:10] <rocket16> jetole: If you like to mount iso, use gmount-iso
[11:10] <bazhang> beyondcr, #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[11:10] <Scarra3> Hey has the RC been released yet
[11:10] <rocket16> !lucid | beyondcr
 u from Aussieland I suppose
[11:10] <g0r3_0f_g0d> hi all
[11:11] <rocket16> !hi | g0r3_0f_g0d
[11:12] <bazhang> Scarra3, #ubuntu+1 for lucid support and discussion
[11:12] <rocket16> Is the Integration between Gnote and Evolution possible? Like Kjots in Kontact?
[11:13] <geekphreak> rockdboat: how can ya say that mate?
[11:13] <rocket16> I tried Conduit to synchronize Memos of Evolution and Gnote, but first of all, it did not work nicely, and secondly, I wanted to access Gnote from Evolution.
[11:14] <geekphreak> rocket16:  why not use option inside evolution?
[11:15] <rocket16> geekphreak: Option inside Evolution? You mean, the Memos? :)
[11:15] <geekphreak> yeah task and memos , they do a descent job
[11:15] <geekphreak> i am not much of a kmail fan
[11:16] <rocket16> geekphreak: I like your idea, and I am using that too. But, I want to maintain a Diary/Journal, and wish the integration of Gnote and Evolution, :(
[11:19] <Wipster> hey all, I'm on 9.10 and my screen went black and I have a nice message in my tray pointing to http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges I'v had this before I guess its still not fixed? heh
[11:20] <triptec> is there a way to install xorg without all those drivers? as I only will use it via ssh?
[11:22] <zebastian> ok
[11:22] <zebastian> so i resized partition
[11:22] <zebastian> and now there's a whole bunch of unallocated space
[11:22] <Yum|---> os[Linux 2.6.31-21-generic i686] distro[Debian squeeze/sid] cpu[4 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q8200  @ 2.33GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.00GHz] mem[Physical: 3.2GB, 85.5% free] disk[Total: 50.8GB, 75.9% free] video[nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9400 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[11:22] <zebastian> so i just start the windows installation and pick the largest amount of available space right?
[11:23] <bazhang> Yum|---, that is debian; please ask for assistance in #debian
[11:23] <geekphreak> zebastian:  how much did you give to windows?
[11:23] <Yum|---> bazhang,  is ubuntu 9.10
[11:23] <zebastian> geekphreak: i just resized the ubuntu partition down so that there's about a hundred gb of unallocated space
[11:24] <zebastian> now, i stick the windows cd in and then install on that right?
[11:24] <geekphreak> wow 100 , andhow much for ubuntu ?
[11:24] <another_reality> ubuntu or freebsd server?
[11:24] <zebastian> geekphreak: 50gb
[11:24] <geekphreak> yeah just pop the cd in and start windows install
[11:24] <zebastian> ok brb
[11:24] <another_reality> Can you help me with this answer
[11:24] <Guest58657> he is scared to blow out
[11:25] <another_reality> ubuntu or freebsd server?
[11:25] <bazhang> another_reality, in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:25] <llutz> another_reality: nobody can without knowing your needs/skills
[11:25] <nick_fn> I was just trying to help someone who called me wanting to install UNE from a USB drive. They are having a "grub cannot read filesystem" (or unknown filesystem) error on boot - so I suggested they could write the USB image with imgwriter instead of using usb-creator.exe. Feels more robust to use a pre-made entire-disk image. Is this not supported though, as no UNE (or regular Ubuntu) img files seem to be at http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ ?
[11:25] <geekphreak> another_reality: matter of choice
[11:25] <bazhang> another_reality, this is Ubuntu support only
[11:25] <Guest58657> one HDD? which OS will boot master
[11:25] <Guest58657> Windows right?
[11:26] <geekphreak> hi bazhang
[11:26] <bazhang> geekphreak, hi
[11:26] <geekphreak> Guest58657:  , did not get your question
[11:26] <psycho_oreos> nick_fn, try unetbootin and use fat32 fo usb drive
[11:26] <Anasule> What's the best way to get in touch with people developing a package for ubuntu specificaly i would like to speak with someone from the evtouch package?
[11:26] <psycho_oreos> s/fo/for
[11:26] <erUSUL> Anasule: #ubuntu-motu
[11:27] <nick_fn> psycho_oreos: they spoke of trying unetbootin, but I didn't see them try it. That seems to also *create* the image, rather than just writing one that's already been created/tested?
[11:28] <nick_fn> I guess I could do it, then send them the img file from my own USB drive
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> nick_fn, no it can be used to write the image, its either download, write or create
[11:29] <psycho_oreos> the write part is where you specify the ISO you wish to write to the USB device
[11:29] <zebastian> hmm
[11:29] <nick_fn> psycho_oreos: Does it write the ISO to the USB drive, exactly as is? like dd would?
[11:29] <zebastian> that didnt work
[11:29] <rocket16> another_reality: You can not expect a neutral reply from here, since I am (and many are) Ubuntu supporters. So, the best thing is to try out both, and see which one suites you. (Sorry, if I had been offtopic).
[11:29] <geekphreak> zebastian: what happened?
[11:29] <zebastian> i stuck the disk in
[11:29] <zebastian> and then rebooted
[11:29] <zebastian> it just booted onto ubuntu
[11:29] <psycho_oreos> nick_fn, no it wouldn't write directly like dd would, it'll create an environment to boot it up, why not just use dd directly?
[11:29] <Guest58657> f8
[11:30] <geekphreak> zebastian: , is cd bootable and is cdrom first boot device in bios?
[11:30] <Curly_Q> Wipster it seems that when you boot up that your screen blanking kicks in immediately. Have you tried shutting down those settings in the BIOS?
[11:30] <geekphreak> Curly_Q: howdy :)
[11:30] <Curly_Q> Greets to Geekphreak. How are you?
[11:30] <geekphreak> good bud ty
[11:30] <Guest58657> yep yep
[11:30] <zebastian> geekphreak: the cdrom must be the first device in the bios because i was able to boot off the livecd for ubuntu
[11:30] <geekphreak> zebastian: is cdrom first boot device?
[11:30] <Curly_Q> Good to see you again.
[11:30] <rocket16> zebastian: Is your BIOS configuration set properly?
[11:31] <nick_fn> psycho_oreos: I'm not sure I understand why simple 'raw disk iamges' are not available for USB drives, in the same way as ISO images are for CD/DVD. (I could use DD, but he could not, on Windows (easily anyway) - I mention dd to see if I understand what unetbootin does)
[11:31] <geekphreak> zebastian: is windows cd geniune?
[11:31] <zebastian> it ought to be, because the ubuntu livecd booted up
[11:31] <geekphreak> Curly_Q:  likewise
[11:31] <Wipster> Curly_Q, I have not spotted any settings on screen blanking on boot, I havn't noticed any screen blanking when I boot
[11:31] <Guest58657> DEL key during for BIOD
[11:31] <llutz> nick_fn: there is dd for win too, gnu-tools
[11:31] <Guest58657> DEL key during for BIOS
[11:31] <geekphreak> zebastian:  does windows cd boot on other systems?
[11:31] <rocket16> zebastian: Then, there might be some Space related problem. Windows needs 8 MB Unallocated Space, while Ubuntu takes up all, leaving no 8 MB for Windows.
[11:32] <psycho_oreos> nick_fn, most likely because usual people would either write to a proper disc themselves or use unetbootin
[11:32] <iflema> zebastian you nee to press a key when it indicates otherwise wincds wont boot
[11:32] <nick_fn> llutz: I think https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download too - but I don't know what image he should be 'dding' to the USB drive
[11:32] <rocket16> zebastian: Also, is the version XP? Vista is not supposed to have this problem.
[11:32] <zebastian> windows 7
[11:32] <Curly_Q> Wipster when you boot can you access anything?
[11:32] <rocket16> zebastian: I see,
[11:33] <geekphreak> zebastian:  you do remember what we said, once you install windows , ubuntu grub will be washed of , you wont se ubuntu loading, you will have to reinstall grub
[11:33] <psycho_oreos> nick_fn, you can't tell him to use unetbootin instead?
[11:33] <zebastian> iflema: so i should press esc or f something to pick boot from cd?
[11:33] <zebastian> yes geekphreak thats fine but as long as i can install windows
[11:33] <zebastian> then i can reinstall grub
[11:33] <iflema> zebastian it prompts something like press any ker to boot CD/DVD
[11:33] <Wipster> Curly_Q, Not sure what you mean, I can get into BIOS but I havn't spotted any options in there for screen blanking. When I boot into ubuntu I havn't noticed any problems with blanking, except this intermitant problem when the screen blanks and I wiggle my mouse to wake it up if i am reading
[11:34] <Curly_Q> Wipster, I read the URL you posted. It has to do with Power Manager. That may be a BIOS setting.
[11:34] <nick_fn> psycho_oreos: Apparently he already tried that - but as I didn't *see it*, I don't trust any complex process I didn't watch... I shall try doing unetbootin myself in a VM, so I can send him the resulting img file or talk him through it maybe
[11:34] <Curly_Q> Power Management has to do with Screen Blanking.
[11:34] <rocket16> zebastian: I think, pressing Esc will show a menu, and highlight the CD/DVD, and press Enter.
[11:35] <zebastian> ok brb
[11:35] <geekphreak> zebastian:  how did you get this windows cd, is it even bootable ?
[11:35] <Curly_Q> Wipster, I ask this always to many who ask the same question you asked. Do you run a Dual Boot with Windows. If so check the Windows settings on Screen Management.
[11:35] <geekphreak> lol
[11:35] <psycho_oreos> nick_fn, unetbootin is somewhat fairly simple, if he can't get that straight then he'll probably struggle to learn imo :)
[11:36] <psycho_oreos> nick_fn, or maybe he's trying to write to a device that doesn't allow raw booting? like ipod lol
[11:36] <Wipster> Curly_Q, No I am only booting ubuntu on this computer
[11:36] <nick_fn> psycho_oreos: I think he'll be OK, and he probably did it correctly - but maybe some error happened he didn't notice
[11:36] <iflema> geekphreak he knows what to do......
[11:36] <geekphreak> iflema: excuse me?
[11:36]  * iflema or is it she????
[11:37] <rocket16> Wipster: Oh, are you saying that you can't see the Grub?
[11:37] <Curly_Q> Wipster shut off power management in BIOS just to test this theory. Also Sleep Mode. You can always reset it back.
[11:38]  * rocket16 is waiting for more people to come
[11:38] <iflema> zebastian is all over it..... hell be fine geekphreak......
[11:38] <geekphreak> iflema: he/she prob does i was just checking if cd was legal, some people have illegal copy and they cannot boot
[11:38] <linux> cfsd
[11:38]  * iflema poor fings
[11:38] <Curly_Q> Otherwise check your Screen Saver mode Wipster.
[11:38] <dawid> hello
[11:38] <rocket16> dawid: Hello
[11:39] <crazy2k> Hello. Was just wondering if Lucid's RC was released already?
[11:39]  * kop__ kicks ubuntu in the meebocks 
[11:39] <Curly_Q> Zebastian, what Version of Windows are you trying to install?
[11:39] <dawid> ja po waszemu nie za bardzo czaje
[11:39] <kop__> <--- seg'd gtk
[11:40] <dawid> zainstalowałem ubuntu i sie bawie
[11:40] <dawid> :D
[11:40] <geekphreak> Curly_Q: he left and window 7
[11:40] <rocket16> Curly_Q: Lol,Zebastian left, :D
[11:40] <tsimpson> crazy2k: when you see the ISO on the download page, it's released
[11:40] <psycho_oreos> !pl | dawid
[11:40] <Curly_Q> Windows 7    <---------------------<    Nahhh!!! Bad choice.
[11:40] <kop__> dawid, "mostly" english support here
[11:41] <Wipster> rocket16, Curly_Q , Ok I'l have a look for power manager options in BIOS, I dont see grub anyway because I only boot ubuntu. This problem occours when I havn't used the laptop for a while and the screen darkens and blanks and I wiggle the mouse to turn it back on, sometimes very rarely this popup happens in the tray linking to that blog and about power manager bugs
[11:41] <rocket16> crazy2k: See this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1459486
[11:41] <rocket16> Wipster: While the Computer starts, press Shift, then you'll see Grub
[11:41] <airtonix> Wipster, did you read the webpage that the message indicates?
[11:41] <crazy2k> tsimpson, rocket16: Thank you.
[11:42] <Curly_Q> Wipster is it a USB mouse? Have you tried to exchange the mouse for another mouse just to see if the mouse is a bad one?
[11:42] <rocket16> crazy2k: You are welcome, :)
[11:42] <kop__> <------ reinstall gimp :D
[11:42] <rocket16> Wipster: Also, to start BIOS, you need to press F1 or F8 there, a the start
[11:42] <Wipster> airtonix, yeh it says a fix has been committed, not sure if its in a version thats in ubuntu however
[11:43] <viliny> rocket16: all mobos so far have been f2 or del for me - my 2 cents
[11:43] <Curly_Q> Wipster what you explained from a Technical viewpoint, you should check first the obvious, i.e., the mouse and if it is USB plug it into another USB port.
[11:43] <crazy2k> rocket16: If I upgrade to beta2, or the RC when it's ready, then I'll just need to check for new packages and install updates using update-manager? Or I'll have to do another upgrade?
[11:43] <airtonix> Wipster, i still randomly get his problem (although i've yet to see the negative aspects of the problem)... all i ever get is the tray icon crying wolf
[11:44] <kop__> just have to ask if I'm the only one that goes to the bother of disabling pulseaudio ?
[11:44] <Curly_Q> Try another mouse.
[11:44] <airtonix> kop__, yes.
[11:44] <airtonix> kop__, also : why.
[11:45] <rocket16> crazy2: I think, only the extra packages will be needed
[11:45] <crazy2k> rocket16: Cool.
[11:45] <tsimpson> crazy2k: you won't have to reinstall, the RC is just an updated ISO image from the beta
[11:45] <kop__> airtonix, breaks , well , it's more a question of what it doesn't break
[11:45] <rocket16> crazy2k: Thanks, :)
[11:45] <airtonix> kop__, everything works fine for me.
[11:45] <Curly_Q> If a device works one day and not the other, then, it is sporadic which means that it appears to be hardware.
[11:45] <crazy2k> tsimpson: And so is the final release, right?
[11:45] <tsimpson> crazy2k: yep
[11:46] <Wipster> Curly_Q, I dont think its a mouse issue, but I will try anyway it does seem that its exhibiting the exact problem on the blog when it dims I hit the 50ms race with my wiggle to brighten it up, the timer doesn't reset and it proceeds to turn it off down the line
[11:46] <Wipster> airtonix, yeh its not a massive problem just is a bit jarring when it happens
[11:47] <oneBit> re :) it seems that update to 9.10 did work :)
[11:47] <Curly_Q> Wipster is it a USB or PS/2 mouse?
[11:48] <Wipster> Curly_Q, I have a usb mouse but I was using the mousepad, I think its connected to PS/2
[11:48] <Curly_Q> Wipster also are you running a laptop?
[11:48] <Wipster> Curly_Q, yes
[11:48] <Curly_Q> I see.
[11:48] <kop__> airtonix, I'll admit to having a less than pure ubuntu 9.10 install by way of aome Deb deps and repos but in error msgs I see pulse taking out gdm,gtk,gnome-* , locking up firefox and generally causing random reboots
[11:48] <friendforall> Someone using here metasploit?
[11:49] <Curly_Q> Which means that your laptop mouse maybe in conflict with your PS/2
[11:50] <airtonix> kop__, then its not pulse-audios problem that you're not configuring the environment properly.
[11:50] <kop__> airtonix, thing is alsa works fine
[11:50] <airtonix> kop__, its not a five minute install and forget thing if your system doesn't already have it.
[11:50] <Curly_Q> Wipster if you remove the PS/2 mouse does the problem go away?
[11:51] <friendforall> anyone here who is using metasploit(www.metasploit.com)
[11:51] <airtonix> kop__, you can't point at also working and cry that pulse is not because they are not the same thing.
[11:51] <airtonix> alsa*
[11:51] <airtonix> kop__, if you don't want pulse then use a distro that does not use it. if you do want working pulseaudio then use the default karmic iso.
[11:51] <Curly_Q> Wipster, NEVER remove any PS/2 mouse while the laptop is running. Power down first then remove.
[11:52] <intok> Anyone else got an HP PSC 1410 printer? http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-PSC_1400 I can print in color just fine, but I can't get greyscale printing to work, it sounds like it's printing, but it doesn't put anything to the paper. I.E. the print head is moving but nothing is coming out. No, it's not out of black, if I do a B/W photocopy it prints fine. Using Ubuntu 9.10
[11:52] <kop__> airtonix, understood , I'm by no means new at this and only just begining to sus this out
[11:52] <andres_> alguien me pueda ayudar en español?
[11:52] <Ben201> hi
[11:52] <Curly_Q> NEVER plug in any PS/2 mouse while the laptop or any computer is fired up or turned on.
[11:53] <andres_> #ubuntu-es
[11:53] <andres_> #ubuntues
[11:53] <matec> kop__, whats your problem with pulse?
[11:53] <llutz> !es | andres_
[11:53] <andres_> thanks
[11:53] <Ben201> im looking for a simple network static ip change utility
[11:54] <Wipster> Curly_Q, well I dont have a physical PS/2 mouse connector, I have no idea what my touch pad connects to internally though
[11:54] <hateball> Ben201: You can do that with network-manager
[11:54] <Ben201> will the change be permanant after a reboot?
[11:54] <llutz> Ben201: ifconfig
[11:54] <sacarlson> how do you get linux-rt to work with ext4 files system?
[11:55] <kop__> matec, it dies and kills other stuff when it does , won't work with flash streams and when it does work with flash streams it won't work with anything else w/o reboot
[11:55] <hateball> !who | Ben201
[11:55] <matec> kop__, lucid or karmic?
[11:55] <hateball> Ben201: Yes, it will. You can even set up different profiles, if you'd like to change between different sets of static IP's
[11:56] <kop__> matec, karmic , I only have lucid in vm atm
[11:56] <vlar> !tab
[11:56] <Ben201> does it apply if running ubuntu server edition?
[11:56] <matec> kop__, did you try to change anything or is this a clean installation with a clean profile?
[11:56] <kop__> matec, flash streams meaning youtube and the like
[11:56] <Kulych> Hi, can I run my C# programms from Windows on my Ubuntu 9.10?
[11:57] <Curly_Q> Wipster in Windows for example there are power settings for screen saver and power management and sleep mode. I believe that Ubuntu has the very same settings. They control the BIOS at bootup.
[11:57] <matec> kop__, you could try to boot from the live cd and look if there problem is present there, too
[11:57] <hateball> !mono
[11:57] <airtonix> Kulych, hi, you should read the mono api first.
[11:57] <FunkyWeasel> Morning.  I am trying to add an authentication key for skype on karmic using "sudo add-apt-respository add ppa://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/stable non-free" but I keep getting the error "need a repository as an argument".  Am I getting the syntax wrong, or does the skype repo not have an authentication key?
[11:57] <hateball> FunkyWeasel: lose the add before ppa://
[11:58] <Wipster> Curly_Q, ok well thanks for the help with this I'l live with it for the time being :)
[11:58] <kop__> matec, it's been buggy from the get , and although I admit to having large portions of Deb code and repos none are even remotely connected to audio
[11:58] <airtonix> Curly_Q, the settings you mention do not touch the bios .
[11:58] <bouma> how can i get a copy of links with framebuffer support for links -g, the one with 9.10 doesnt have  it and also does 9.10 with intel integrated video support a framebuffer console, i presume it does
[11:58] <desperate> Hi, my display HG281D, supporting 1920x1200, is stuck at 800x600. There is no etc/x11/xorg.conf. sudo Xorg -configure complains about a server already in use. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does NOTHING. dont know what to do next
[11:58] <FunkyWeasel> hateball: Same thing happens.
[11:58] <Kulych> I tryed "wine" but i sayed: "install windows version of mono to run .NET executables"
[11:58] <friendforall> how can i lock/encrypt my 2gb file?
[11:58] <Kulych> It's win form app
[11:59] <desperate> thanks BTW
[11:59] <geekphreak> friendforall:  you can use tools?
[11:59] <airtonix> FunkyWeasel, because that ppa does not live at launchpad.
[11:59] <geekphreak> friendforall:  tool name is cryptkeeper
[11:59] <FunkyWeasel> airtonix: Of course.  Cheers!  Is there any way to authenticate the skype repo?
[11:59] <hateball> Kulych: mono is installed by default, you so can try with "mono file.exe"
[11:59] <kop__> matec, it's more of a curiosity as I have to upgrade sooner or later and as I understand it pulse/Lucid is a more mature implimentation
[11:59] <airtonix> Kulych, winforms do not run on linux as far as i know.
[11:59] <hateball> Kulych: but you might need some extra libs for... extra stuff
[12:00] <airtonix> FunkyWeasel, you'll need to use the old method.
[12:00] <VSpike> Kulych: you could try using winetricks to instsall the .net binaries into wine
[12:00] <Kulych> I try it. thanks ;)
[12:00] <Curly_Q> Airtonix, true, but when on bootup the settings see the BIOS and work accordingly.
[12:00] <friendforall> geekphreak, is it command line tool?
[12:00] <airtonix> VSpike, winetricks won't let you install dot net 3 though
[12:00] <geekphreak> friendforall:  gui , do you want command line?
[12:00] <airtonix> Curly_Q, doesn't mean they are manipulating the bios.
[12:01] <Kulych> And is any form app on linux what i can programme in linux?
[12:01] <Curly_Q> I agree. What I said was for the sake of brevity.
[12:01] <llutz> Curly_Q: those settings just need a correct dsdt, they use acpi-functions
[12:01] <FunkyWeasel> airtonix: Grab a key from pgp.mit.edu and the rest of it?
[12:01] <friendforall> yes
[12:01] <geekphreak> friendforall:  try bcrypt  for command line
[12:01] <matec> kop__, i can't help you if you don't describe the problem precisely. trying the live cd wouln't be too hard... you just have to install the flash player in the live env. I think pulse is working pretty good in karmic and don't think that there are that much pulse improvments in lucid.
[12:02] <airtonix> FunkyWeasel, why are you getting the key from mit ?
[12:02] <VSpike> Kulych: you'd normally use the GTK+ bindings from mono for GUI apps with mono + linux I think
[12:02] <TriMe> hey anyone here give me a quick help on a database / mysql issue?? its very easy i am just dumb or too tired :P
[12:02] <FunkyWeasel> airtonix: Because that's what the help.ubuntu.com community/Skype page says.   I can't find mention of where I would get it from otherwise.
[12:03] <Take0n> Hello
[12:03] <matec> kop__, do you use a 64bit karmic?
[12:03] <Curly_Q> Airtonix, what was explained was that the device works one day and when it was not being used for a while and then back to use has a problem, it seems to be a hardware issue. Perhaps the CMOS battery is tired or the main battery is weak. There are many variables.
[12:04] <friendforall> geekphreak, ok
[12:04] <kop__> matec, again , understood , the original question was if anyone went to the trouble of disabling pulse as a way of finding someone with the same problem :D
[12:04] <desperate> no idea, anyone? :(
[12:04] <VSpike> airtonix: won't it? I wonder why not?
[12:04] <kop__> matec, no
[12:04] <Take0n> I have a problem with lucid. Almost everytime I try to boot my computer it crashes at the login window. I think it has to do with plymouth but it takes 9 out of 10 tries before I am able to login..
[12:05] <bazhang> Take0n, #ubuntu+1 for lucid please
[12:05] <airtonix> VSpike, obvious reason : microsoft lisence prevents it. not so obvious : dont net 3 requries stuff wine does not provide.
[12:05] <Take0n> bazhang, sorry I forgot
[12:06] <desperate>  Hi, my display HG281D, supporting 1920x1200, is stuck at 800x600. There is no etc/x11/xorg.conf. sudo Xorg -configure complains about a server already in use. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does NOTHING. dont know what to do next.
[12:06] <airtonix> FunkyWeasel, where did you get your original ppa link from ?
[12:06] <VSpike> airtonix: ta
[12:06] <llutz> desperate: stop X to run Xorg -configure
[12:06] <geekphreak> desperate: nvidia card?
[12:06] <VSpike> Here's my iptables setup... wlan0 is local, eth0 is WAN. local is 10.0.0.0/24. http://pastebin.org/167236 ... Can anyone tell me how I'd redirect an external port to an internal machine?
[12:06] <desperate> nope, lspci | grep VGA
[12:06] <desperate> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
[12:07] <desperate> how do I stop X?
[12:07] <kop__>   /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:07] <VSpike> desperate: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[12:07] <VSpike> desperate: (or kdm or xdm if you are using those instead)
[12:07] <desperate> and to get back here? startx?
[12:08] <VSpike> desperate: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[12:08] <Curly_Q> Wipster, which brings us to another line of reasoning. If your CMOS battery is dead or weak, then, your computer time frame is off. If you check the date when you re-boot and see if the time and date is correct only after the computer has been sitting for a while like you said, you may find that could be your answer.
[12:08] <VSpike> desperate: startx is good for testing though
[12:08] <kop__>   /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:08] <xok> hello all...
[12:09] <xok> I'm trying follow this guide and set up a LiveCD PXE boot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
[12:09] <xok> trying to follow*
[12:10] <Curly_Q> Ubuntu has a UTC setting just as Windows does. Universal Coordinated Time. If the battery is low, then the UTC has set your clock but the BIOS time is off.
[12:10] <viliny> where can you change the vinagre servers port in ubuntu?
[12:10] <xok> I've got everything working...
[12:10] <xok> NFS, DHCP+TFTP...
[12:10] <xok> the liveCD boots normally but stucks....
[12:10] <xok> can anyone help?..
[12:10] <kop__> xok, whe may not speak spanish here but we are very fluent in typo
[12:10] <Gadena> I can
[12:12] <xok> can anyone help?...
[12:13] <wise_crypt> !help | xok
[12:13] <rocket16> !patience | xok
[12:14] <xok> wise_crypt: I've asked already, have no idea what to say anymore...
[12:14] <xok> wise_crypt: it's not my problem if you can't read.. ;-)
[12:15] <vak> lsh or openssh? what would you guys recommend?..
[12:15] <Curly_Q> Openssh, it works VAK.
[12:16] <vak> Curly_Q: isn't lsh somewhat newer and more promissing?
[12:16] <MobiusJedi> xok: perhaps, then again, some of us just got here...
[12:16] <sipior> vak: newer != better
[12:17] <vak> sipior: would you mean lsh isn't any better?
[12:17] <Curly_Q> Vak, not in all cases. When something is new, there are always bugs to be found. Stick with what works and then find out more and if you see the difference, then, you can always change.
[12:17] <wise_crypt> xok: the liveCD boots normally but stuck, please be more specific
[12:17] <xok> MobiusJedi: I've got working DHCP+TFTP+NFS...
[12:17] <xok> MobiusJedi: I am trying to follow this guide to setup network boot LiveCD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
[12:18] <sipior> vak: i said that one does not imply the other.
[12:18] <wise_crypt> xok: it will help us if you pastebin the error message
[12:18] <xok> wise_crypt: I can't, the system boots but stucks, have no idea why...
[12:18] <xok> wise_crypt: error message?.. from where?..
[12:19] <wise_crypt> xok: the stuck process
[12:20] <xok> wise_crypt: loook, as I said the system just stucks loading something (I've no idea what)... it boots normally from the network, shouldn't be the server problem...
[12:20] <xok> wise_crypt: but what kind of problem it has I have no idea, 'cause as I said it stucks loading....
[12:20] <xok> saying abolutely nothing...
[12:22] <enriq> hi. I noticed that the (possibly false) palimpsest alarm about bad sectors disappeared... has anything been fixed in ubuntu 9.10?
[12:22] <wise_crypt> xok: but its booted n give you tty ?
[12:22] <Curly_Q> Vak check this out:   http://www.linuxsa.org.au/pipermail/linuxsa/2003-September/060510.html
[12:22] <xok> wise_crypt: no...
[12:22] <jerry_> Im having trouble with xvid playback anyone able to help ? i get sound but no picture and have all gstreamer plugins installed
[12:22] <Curly_Q> Vak check this out also:  http://tech.element77.com/2003/09/openssh-or-lsh-with-recent-exploits-in.html
[12:22] <xok> wise_crypt: shows up ubuntu logo... and preloader...
[12:23] <wise_crypt> xok: if you able to have the console login try dmesg > pastebin
[12:24] <xok> wise_crypt: as I said I've only ubuntu logo showing preloader... nothing more...
[12:25] <lalalol> why does ubuntu display megabyte as MiB?
[12:25] <NickMyers> Hey guys, anyone had problems getting gitosis running on 9.10 that can help me? I'm having problems running the git clone command to complete due to an authentication problem.
[12:25] <jerry_> thats a mibbit
[12:25] <llutz> lalalol: because they are Mib not MB (mega = 1000, Mibibyte = powers of 2)
[12:25] <jerry_> not a megabyte lalalol
[12:26] <lalalol> wtf?
[12:26] <enriq> anyone else experimenting "disks failing" warning on 9.10?
[12:27] <lalalol> llutz, jerry_ , why doesnt ubuntu use megabyte instead of that strange mibibyte :s
[12:27] <llutz> lalalol: because it would be wrong
[12:27] <llutz> lalalol: 1 MB != 1 MiB
[12:27] <kaolbrec> enriq, it happens sometimes
[12:27] <lalalol> megabyte (MB)	106	220	mebibyte (MiB)	220
[12:28] <exploit100> geekphreak, how to decrypt by becrypt?
[12:28] <lalalol> ugh, nvm that
[12:28] <kaolbrec> enriq, I've ignored it and suffered no ill effects. Doubtless someone will tell me that My disks will fail, and I'll learn my lesson.
[12:28] <lalalol> so how much is this file in MB? 29.4 MiB
[12:28] <enriq> kaolbrec, I noticed it's no longer happening in my install... and I wonder what has changed
[12:28] <kaolbrec> enriq, but when you re-run the check and the disk comes up healthy.. well..
[12:29] <llutz> lalalol: 1 MB = 1000000 Bytes, 1MiB = 1024*1024 Bytes
[12:29] <enriq> palimpsest has not been fixed
[12:29] <kaolbrec> enriq, same. It happened once or twice
[12:29] <lalalol> llutz, why does ubuntu use MiB?
[12:29] <enriq> in my case I could not complete the long tests
[12:29] <enriq> what tests did you run kaolbrec
[12:29] <wise_crypt> xok: hmmm
[12:29] <llutz> lalalol: i guess because nerds are used to calculate with powers of 2 and not with 10^x
[12:30] <kaolbrec> The SMART disk check, using the same utility that said it was failing
[12:30] <friendforall> geekphreak : how to decrypt using bcrypt tool?
[12:30] <lalalol> llutz, can i change my system to use MB?
[12:30] <Curly_Q> Enriq you may have bad sectors on your hard drive. Explain what type of hard drive you have, e.g., SATA, IDE and size of disk.
[12:30] <kaolbrec> The SMART disk check, using the same utility that said it was failing, enriq
[12:30] <llutz> lalalol: idk
[12:31] <lalalol> cuz nautilus says i have 94.3GiB free space
[12:31] <geekphreak> friendforall:  same way you encrypt it, brcypt file.bfe
[12:31] <lalalol> thats not 94.3GB
[12:31] <friendforall> geekphreak :and i installed cryptkeeper but not working
[12:32] <Curly_Q> Enriq pop in a Windows Disk and do a check disk or any disk utility first.
[12:32] <enriq> Curly_Q, Seagate ST3500320AS, 500Gb
[12:32] <geekphreak> friendforall:  you have to set it up , it aint right click thing :)
[12:32] <enriq> Curly_Q, Windows?
[12:32] <Curly_Q> Enriq when you boot up do you hear any clicking from the hard drive?
[12:32] <enriq> nope
[12:33] <Curly_Q> None at all even when it is running?
[12:33] <enriq> nope
[12:33] <wise_crypt> xok: might help > If your image fails to boot and drops you to a busybox initramfs command prompt, the file casper.log may shed some light on why it died. You will likely be here because the livecd couldn't find a root filesystem to mount (filesystem.squashfs). Try cat casper.log at the prompt.
[12:33] <Curly_Q> What OS are you running?
[12:33] <bouma> does anyone know a with linux console fonts ?
[12:33] <bouma> a site
[12:33] <enriq> it's a quite silent disk, maybe it's not loud click and fans are louder
[12:33] <enriq> Curly_Q, Ubuntu 9.10
[12:34] <bouma> or have a favourite, for a high res monitor
[12:34] <enriq> Curly_Q, I do have dual boot to xp too
[12:34] <Curly_Q> OH. I see.
[12:34] <bouma> and doesanyone know of a way to get a links that supports -g, at graphics browsing at console with framebutter
[12:34] <bouma> buffer
[12:34] <lalalol> dang it man, this stupid MiB and GiB and so on :@
[12:35] <tarzeau> bouma: here's one: http://gnu.ethz.ch/linuks.mine.nu/supercow/supercow-1.0/ocr.fnt
[12:35] <tarzeau> bouma: here's another one: gnu.ethz.ch/linuks.mine.nu/amiga/
[12:35] <friendforall> geekphreak :can i use kgpg
[12:36] <cwE_cArMiNg> gggggggggggg
[12:36] <Curly_Q> Dual boot to XP and do a SCAN DISK full scan and check sectors and so. That would be: Open up a Windows command prompt and type in this: chkdsk
[12:37] <dick> hello
[12:37] <dick> any one here
[12:37] <xok> wise_crypt: I am not able to get shell...
[12:37] <dick> hello
[12:37] <psycho_oreos> !ask | dick
[12:38] <dick> hi
[12:38] <dick> how r u
[12:38] <enriq> Cueball, would that check the ubuntu4 partitions too?
[12:38] <rockdboat> hi all
[12:38] <enriq> Curly_Q, would that check the ubuntu4 partitions too?
[12:38] <enriq> Cueball, sorry :)
[12:38] <llutz> enriq: install smartmontools, perform a long-test
[12:38] <Curly_Q> Enriq it will check the entire disk for bad sectors.
[12:39] <Curly_Q> Enriq, keep in mind that every disk even when bought brand new has some bad sectors.
[12:40] <rockdboat> I did a minimal ubuntu Karmic kola(12.1 MB iso). Post instalation connected to Internet and installed packages as suggested in documentation, WTF size increased to 2G. I want 700MB size after install, Is it possible??
[12:40] <rocket161> Any operators here? Please kick rocket16, for I got disconnected, and my nick still is running, :(
[12:40] <rocket161> So, I need to login as rocket16, :(
[12:40] <jrib> rocket161: /msg nickserv help ghost
[12:40] <Curly_Q> What you are looking for is major serious bad sectors, etc. One of the biggest problems is that computers are moved from one place to another when the hard drive is spinning. That is very bad. Never move a laptop or any computer while the system is on. This is why hard drives have what is called:  PARK.
[12:40] <rocket161> jrib: Thanks
[12:41] <wise_crypt> xok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot read the Notes part it is important
[12:41] <rocket161> Thanks jrib
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[12:42] <Aciid> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24519/ - Brainstorm for authentication security!
[12:42] <emma> why is the user count of this channel and many others on Freenode so much lower than usual?
[12:42] <rockdboat> I did a minimal ubuntu Karmic kola(12.1 MB iso). Post instalation connected to Internet and installed packages as suggested in documentation, WTF size increased to 2G. I want 700MB size after install, Is it possible??
[12:43] <enriq> Curly_Q, thanks, I know moving disk is bad, also I know bad sectors are common. This is a desktop machine which is never moved. My only concern is palimpsest said my disk were failing, but now it says nothing
[12:43] <jrib> emma: ~1500 seems about right
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Emma: its just how it goes, sometimes its busy sometimes not
[12:43] <sipior> rockdboat: you might consider a server install, which will have a smaller footprint generally.
[12:43] <enriq> Curly_Q, which is strange because I have more bad sectors now than before
[12:43] <jrib> rockdboat: that's dependent on what you install
[12:43] <IdleOne> emma: I got 1480, same as this whole pass week
[12:43] <LjL> emma needs user count statistics? i has user count statistics! no wait, i don't. it's the only statistic i don't keep :(
[12:43] <IdleOne> past*
[12:44] <xok> wise_crypt: thanks...
[12:44] <xok> wise_crypt: alt+enter worked...
[12:44] <wise_crypt> xok: no problem
[12:44] <Curly_Q> Enriq, that could be just a fluke. Or just plain that you would do better by trying a different hard drive so that you may find out that you are wasting your time with a bad drive which will cost you in time in the long run.
 <jrib> Post installation, I just installed the mandatory packages as suggested by doc
[12:44] <jrib> rockdboat: what "mandatory" packages?
[12:44] <sipior> rockdboat: mandatory?
[12:45] <rockdboat> hold on
[12:45] <xok> wise_crypt: now, I wonder how to pass that alt+enter on the boot?...
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Rockdboat: if you did a minimal install and just installed ubuntu×desktop you only saved having to install the os then updates rather than going direct to the latest
[12:45] <Curly_Q> Enriq, always keep a few hard drives on hand.
[12:45] <rockdboat>  <siplor> <jrib> hold on I will tell u
[12:45] <enriq> Curly_Q, there is a known bug in palimpsest giving false positives
[12:46] <sipior> rockdboat: was this a "desktop" install, or a "server" install?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Rockdboat: if you install for example lxde the install is still quitw small and you will have an x server (for example)
[12:46] <Curly_Q> Enriq, which brings us to another question. Is your Dual Boot set up for XP to boot first then Ubuntu?
[12:47] <enriq> Curly_Q, no, grub boot, and ubuntu is default (I almost never use XP)
[12:47] <lalalol> !offtopic
[12:47] <wise_crypt> xok:experimental need experimenting
[12:47] <Curly_Q> Enriq, the next question is: Is your hard drive logically partitioned?
[12:47] <wise_crypt> xok:experimental *needs experimenting
[12:47] <lalalol> just needed to know the channel
[12:48] <enriq> Curly_Q, yes, it has 1 partition for xp, and 3 for ubuntu (root, opt+home and swap)
[12:49] <Curly_Q> Enriq, what is your primary partition? Is it Windows or Ubuntu, and explain which has first place in the MBR, XP or Ubuntu?
[12:51] <its-me-again> hi is there a wine.deb
[12:51] <grobda24> What is the fix to make stop pulseaudio shutting off when I switch to another console. I have checked around for the answer but there is no clear description. I want my audio back !
[12:51] <llutz> !info wine
[12:51] <Sia--> !wine | its-me-again
[12:51] <KindOne> its-me-again: yeah should be
[12:51] <grobda24> What is the fix to stop pulseaudio shutting off when I switch to another console. I have checked around for the answer but there is no clear description. I want my audio back !
[12:52] <xok> can anyone help me with "ALT+ENTER" on the NFS booting LiveCD?...
[12:53] <Curly_Q> Enriq, you may also want to see this URL:     http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/hard-disk-failing-error-in-ubuntu-9-10-a-772729/
[12:53] <Chripher> hello
[12:53] <Chripher> any subversion guruhere?
[12:54] <faruk> where is rc?
[12:54] <faruk> will it release today?
[12:55] <wise_crypt> xok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot read the Notes part it is important
[12:55] <grobda24> HELLO 1492 people, do one of you know how to stop pulseaudio shutting off my classical music everytime I switch out of the console ?
[12:55] <Pici> faruk : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[12:55] <faruk> ok
[12:55] <faruk> Pici: txk
[12:55] <Sia--> grobda24, purge it
[12:55] <Pici> Chripher: Subversion's support channel is #svn
[12:55] <faruk> *thx
[12:56] <xok> wise_crypt: I've read it, but there's nothing about how to automaticaaly provide alt+enter during boot..
[12:56] <grobda24> Sia ... yes, I will eventually - but at the moment it could leave me with yet another prob configuring Alsa which I do not need at the moment.
[12:57] <grobda24> Sia, there's some "fix" mentioned in the bug report for this, but I can't actually locate it :|
[12:57] <CortezTheKiller> hello everyone just moved back to ubuntu :) I missed it!
[12:57] <Curly_Q> I must go for now Enriq, llutz, GeekPhreak and all. Hope to see you all soon. Take care.
[12:57] <ranjan> which is the best text to speech software for linux
[12:57] <wise_crypt> xok: if you alt + enter on your boot something is wrong with your boot sequence alt + enter bypass it better read again how to know what is wrong with your boot sequence
[12:57] <geekphreak> curlly  tc mate
[12:58] <Chripher> Pici: thx but maybe it is more of a apache question?!, I followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion but it does not ask for the password or logins that I createdd when I check out
[12:59] <Pici> Chripher: I haven't used svn in quite a while, but I didn't think that checkouts required a password.
[12:59] <hwilde> on the shutdown sequence why does it shutdown networking before unmounting network drives?  it causes cifs mounts to hang on shutdown
[12:59] <wise_crypt> xok: bullet list no. 3
[13:00] <geekphreak> cya folks
[13:01] <Chripher> Pici: this means anybody can checkout code tha maybe "propritär source"
[13:01] <xok> wise_crypt: yes, I've used that, I'm now presented: "squashfs version 3.3" ...
[13:01] <xok> wise_crypt: after hitting alt+enter the LiveCD boots normally...
[13:01] <Pici> Chripher: Probably best to ask in #svn, its been a long time since I configured an SVN repo
[13:01] <Chripher> Pici: # is deadf
[13:01] <xok> wise_crypt: but I'm asking how to provide that "alt+enter" during boot automatically...
[13:01] <xok> :-)
[13:01] <wise_crypt> xok: hmm cat casper.log
[13:02] <xok> wise_crypt: where's that file?...
[13:02] <tottto-drummond> Is Lucid Lynx RC out yet ?
[13:02] <xok> I'm in the GUI version right now...
[13:02] <wise_crypt> xok: locate casper.log
[13:03] <IdleOne> tottto-drummond: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes and #ubuntu+1 for Lucid
[13:04] <xok> wise_crypt: nothing interesting really in casper.log
[13:04] <wise_crypt> xok: pastebin
[13:05] <xok> wise_crypt: ok, sec...
[13:05] <Marduuk> i have a 10.04 beta 2 question
[13:05] <Pici> Marduuk : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[13:06] <Marduuk> i put the x64 disk in my laptop (athlon x64) and all i get is keyboard = man in circle
[13:07] <bazhang> Marduuk, #ubuntu+1 please
[13:07] <xok> wise_crypt: here: http://pastebin.com/TNpjN8fY
[13:10] <wise_crypt> xok: what is this; unknown or non-unique volume type (--probe-all lists possibly conflicting types) ?
[13:12] <n1b> i have a problem with fire-fox it wont start I also tried to use paste bin not happening. so when typing firefox in the terminal i get (firefox:3546): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times
[13:13] <carmen33> Enter text here...hola
[13:13] <bazhang> !es | carmen33
[13:16] <syli725> Questions regarding RAID. In the past, I met a power failure problem causes RAID partition configuration loss. 10TB data loss. Now, I need to setup a new server with PERC 6/E RAID controller. My question is: if the power failure problem happens again, how to fix that problem? Is that possible to backup the RAID partition configuration and restore? I heard that the RAID config is stored in each harddisk....thanks.  (The power failure just makes the RAID config
[13:17] <syli725> uration loss. All the data is actually still there...)
[13:21] <Olejo> Some advice please, I am installing ubuntu and want to run other linux distributions on the HD, do I need to partition the HD when installing to do this?
[13:22] <IdleOne> Olejo: you can use 1 /home and different / for each distro. So yes you would need to partition
[13:22] <syli725> Olejo, each linux distribution has to install to a different parition.
[13:22] <IdleOne> !separatehome > Olejo
[13:22] <syli725> Olejo, IdleOne is right. / has to be different. swap can be the same.
[13:23] <allu2> ör :S doesn't empathy really have tab complete?
[13:23] <IdleOne> Olejo: so basically /home and /swap can be shared
[13:23] <Olejo> Hmm! I am very new to linux, I will get confused :)
[13:24] <Urda> I need some scripting help! I need to grab the percentage number from this output http://pastie.org/929595 in a script for Graphing purposes.
[13:24] <IdleOne> Olejo: read that link ubottu gave you about creating a separate /home
[13:24] <brontosaurusrex> Olejo: you need to separate 'boot' = root partitions, home could be the same, also swap can be the same
[13:25] <Olejo> Can I learn about linux with Ubuntu or should i use other distributions?
[13:25] <syli725> Olejo, to install a linux, at minimum, you need to have / and swap the two partitions. /home and /boot etc.. can all be under / partition. To simple the answer. / has to be in different partition. swap can be shared.
[13:26] <IdleOne> Olejo: yes you can learn about linux using ubuntu
[13:26] <IdleOne> Olejo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic#Installing_Ubuntu
[13:26] <IdleOne> that link will also be useful to you
[13:26] <brontosaurusrex> Olejo: good starers distro is linux mint imho, which is basically karmic ubuntu + some makeup
[13:27] <IdleOne> brontosaurusrex: A really good starter Linux is Ubuntu :)
[13:27] <Donatas_LT> What do you prefer - GStreamer plugins or w32codecs ?
[13:27] <allu2> IdleOne: not on my hardware :P more work with ubuntu then debian :S :P
[13:28]  * turd crap
[13:28] <Olejo> But if I do not partition at install can i still use other distros on the same HD at a later date.
[13:28]  * turd butt
[13:28]  * turd shit
[13:28] <IdleOne> ok let's not turn this into a distro flame. All distro are good just depends on what the user prefers. ok? good! thank.
[13:28] <cdr-> all distros suck
[13:29] <allu2> IdleOne: well ubuntu is good no complaining on that, my hardware is *****
[13:29] <allu2> Omnibook XE3-GF :S
[13:30] <IdleOne> Olejo: yes you can partition at a later date
[13:30] <IdleOne> Olejo: makes things a little more complicated but not so much you can't figure it out
[13:30] <allu2> problems with suspend, hibernation, graphix, cd playing, and latest that i upgraded to beta2 and now not booting :P
[13:31] <bazhang> allu2, lucid?
[13:31] <IdleOne> allu2: running alpha/beta OS does that
[13:31]  * kraehe tries to install virtual box in the ubuntu way - the question is, how to install/compile the modules - how to get a kernel source that matches the installed ubuntu kernel?
[13:31] <FFF666> Im trying to deploy the UEC following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall, but I don't know if the step 4 has to be done in the ubuntu 9.10 server
[13:31] <allu2> IdleOne: yeah, but the boot problem came just with lucid not karmic
[13:31] <bazhang> allu2, #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[13:32] <IdleOne> allu2: ok, you are running an Alpha/Beta OS
[13:32] <Olejo> Thanks everyone, and IdleOne :)
[13:32] <allu2> IdleOne: now i would be happy to reinstall Karmic but i want to save my crypted home directory, witch turns out be hard/impossible
[13:32] <IdleOne> Olejo: welcome
[13:32] <IdleOne> allu2: ask in #uubntu+1 someone there can probably help you if it is possible
[13:32] <allu2> IdleOne: i crypted it on Karmic and iam using Karmic live so should i be here?
[13:32] <IdleOne> #ubuntu+1 sorry
[13:33] <allu2> and i want to get back to Karmic :P
[13:34] <FFF666> Im trying to deploy the UEC following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall, but I don't know if the step 4 has to be done in the ubuntu 9.10 server
[13:34] <allu2> whaat :S
[13:34] <allu2> lol
[13:34] <FFF666> ?
[13:34] <allu2> it seems "/join" is unknown command for empathy :S
[13:35] <jt76> Hi all, dose anyone know of an app or a way to extent the ubuntu panel on a dual screen?
[13:36] <FFF666> Im trying to deploy the UEC following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall, but I don't know if the step 4 has to be done in the ubuntu 9.10 server
[13:36] <FFF666> anyone knows?
[13:37] <zwiebi> hello everyone
[13:37] <snayth> allu2, Are you using Lucid?
[13:39] <Urda> I need some scripting help! I need to grab the percentage number from this output http://pastie.org/929595 in a script for Graphing purposes.
[13:39] <Urda> ...and only that number :s
[13:40] <FFF666> Im trying to deploy the UEC following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall, but I don't know if the step 4 has to be done in the ubuntu 9.10 server , anyone knows?
[13:42] <chopin> are there any pre-made ubuntu vmware images (not server, just workstation) available out there?
[13:42] <fruers> Is it possible to put a block device (scsi, iscsi, ide) back into read/write mode after the kernel has marked it read-only due to a timeout?
[13:44] <allu2> Urda: i'll try if i can figure something
[13:44] <ramindia> i have issue with 7130 philips tv tuner card.. any one can help me
[13:44] <Urda> allu2: that works, or if any online sources I could read through, shame I just can't get that column
[13:45] <kevina> hello all
[13:46] <kevina> is it just me, or have there been no updates to lucid for the last 24 hours? nothing's appearing in update manager
[13:46] <allu2> Urda: i think i would begin by grepping /dev/sda6 so i have just the line with the number and then parse only marks -7 to -9 maybe..
[13:46] <bazhang> kevina, #ubuntu+1 for lucid please
[13:46] <kevina> sorry.. ok will change to #ubuntu+1
[13:47] <cyziq> Witam
[13:47] <bazhang> !pl | cyziq
[13:48] <Guest32153> I need some helt whit my ATI Graphic drivers! Please
[13:49] <Guest32153> I need some help whit my ATI Graphic drivers! Please
[13:49] <Urda> allu2: ok :)
[13:50] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto Guest32153
[13:50] <Guest32153> Looking thanks
[13:50] <allu2> Urda: np
[13:53] <mohan_> hi.. is there any driver for avertv usb tv tuner card?
[13:53] <mohan_> my model number is a833
[13:54] <allu2> Urda: ok i have some little python script worked for me with "df / -h"
[13:54] <CloudLevi> Soooo how do I access task manager or whatever it's called on Linux WITHOUT using the task bar/panels?
[13:54] <allu2> i change it a little so it should work for your needs
[13:54] <Urda> allu2: oh awesome! :D
[13:54] <jrib> CloudLevi: setup a keyboard shortcut?  Why do you want to?
[13:55] <CloudLevi> jrib: Because my panels crashed and I *REALLY* don't want to restart...
[13:56] <Urda> allu2: may I see it? :)
[13:56] <jrib> CloudLevi: well if you have a terminal open use that, or if you have nautilus open, you can get a panel that way.  Otherwise, hit ctrl-alt-f1, log in there, do what you want, ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to X
[13:56] <jrib> CloudLevi: s/panel/terminal
[13:56] <eax> Hi there - I have a problem with my Nvidia FX5600 -  I cannot chose other resolutions than 320x240 and 640x480. What can I do to run the correct resolution?
[13:57] <CloudLevi> jrib: Nautilus?
[13:57] <jrib> CloudLevi: the file browser
[13:57] <CloudLevi> jrib: got one open =/
[13:57] <jrib> CloudLevi: ok, use that then
[13:58] <CloudLevi> jrib: made a folder on the desktop for that, but I can't find the button or command or anything x-x
[13:58] <bazhang> mohan_, that card does not look to be supported from what I can tell; avertv may have drivers you can try or you can check ubuntuforums; I have websearched and found none
[13:58] <jrib> CloudLevi: you should be able to run gnome-terminal: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal iirc
[13:59] <eax> Hi there - I have a problem with my Nvidia FX5600 -  I cannot chose other resolutions than 320x240 and 640x480. What can I do to run the correct resolution?
[14:00] <DelphiWorld> hi
[14:00] <mohan_> bazhang: yes, i have too searched in web and in ubuntu forums too.. no drivers :( i got a unsupported devices.. thx for reply..
[14:00] <DelphiWorld> is it pocible to upgrade my ubuntu from the internet?
[14:00] <erUSUL> eax: use « gksudo nvidia-settings »
[14:00] <erUSUL> !upgrade | DelphiWorld
[14:00] <bazhang> DelphiWorld, of course
[14:00] <digitalstimulus> DelphiWorld, yes
[14:00] <Ivis> Hello, when i start my sytem i need to re-enable a 20 times newtwork connection icon to start my internet why is that?
[14:00] <bazhang> Ivis, give more details please, that is not very descriptive
[14:01] <DelphiWorld> erUSUL: how do i upgrade from internet?
[14:01] <bazhang> DelphiWorld, check the bot link
[14:01] <sweb> hail I want to buy lightpen
[14:01] <erUSUL> DelphiWorld: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[14:01] <WLU> join #xemacs
[14:01] <bazhang> sweb, related to ubuntu?
[14:01] <sweb> I want to know which mark support linux ?
[14:01] <WLU> \join xemacs
[14:01] <mylisto> anyone know how to enable usb support on virtualbox ose?
[14:01] <sweb> witch brand ?
[14:01] <tiffany_> oups ya pas de francais ici?
[14:01] <Pici> !fr | tiffany_
[14:01] <bazhang> tiffany_, #ubuntu-fr svp
[14:01] <eax> erUSUL: That's the problem. I can only select 640x480 and 320x240 in Nvidia-settings :S
[14:02] <geekphreak> mylisto:  #vbox
[14:02] <DelphiWorld> bazhang: thank you
[14:02] <DelphiWorld> bazhang: because there is a lot of trafic in this channel
[14:02] <bazhang> sweb, you mean flash disk? what is a light pen
[14:02] <DelphiWorld> bazhang: i can't see the message, client scroling Up automaticaly and i use a screen reader for the blind
[14:02] <sweb> wacom is a brand that have many light pen
[14:02] <mylisto> thanks geekphreak:
[14:02] <IdleOne> !upgrade > DelphiWorld
[14:03] <Ivis> bazhang, ok when i start my ubuntu i have red cross on network icon on the right corner so i need to re-enable 20 times "Enable networking" to make red cross go away and start internet
[14:03] <bazhang> sweb, you mean tablet?
[14:03] <CloudLevi> jrib: In the terminal. Now how do I restart my panels? x-x
[14:03] <IdleOne> DelphiWorld: check your messages from ubottu
[14:03] <sweb> tablet, it's call tablet ?
[14:03] <geekphreak> IdleOne: howdy buddy :)
[14:03] <DelphiWorld> GOT IT§
[14:03] <bazhang> sweb, check the hcl perhaps
[14:03] <IdleOne> morning geekphreak
[14:03] <bazhang> !hcl | sweb
[14:03] <speiros> How do I upload a font into my ubuntu?  I have a truetype font downloaded, and don't know where to put it.
[14:03] <sweb> http://wacomtablet.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/wacom_intuos4.jpg
[14:03] <erUSUL> !font | speiros
[14:03] <bazhang> sweb, yep thats a tablet
[14:04] <DelphiWorld> bye:
[14:04] <speiros> Thank you erUSUL and ubottu
[14:04] <jrib> CloudLevi: you asked how to start task-manager (really "system monitor"), that's called gnome-system-monitor I believe
[14:05] <CloudLevi> jrib: Ultimate goal is getting Panels to restart, whiiich I imagine can be done most easily via System Monitor.
[14:05] <sweb> bazhang, dose not have any info about tablet
[14:05] <sweb> ?
[14:05] <CloudLevi> jrib: hang on. found SM
[14:05] <jrib> CloudLevi: you should always ask what your ultimate goal is.... How did the panels crash?  Are they just "frozen" or are they gone from your display?
[14:05] <bazhang> sweb, which exact model of wacom tablet
[14:06] <sweb> I want to buy. any model that supportet with linux
[14:06] <sweb> bazhang ^]
[14:06] <IdleOne> sweb: bazhang https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[14:06] <IdleOne> sweb: the above link should show you what models are supported
[14:07] <CloudLevi> jrib: Frozen. Fixed it. I auto-collapsed the task panel and overlapped it at the top so I'd stop mousing it all the time while I play RuneScape.
[14:07] <bazhang> sweb, many are, I would check the ubuntuforums with the exact model you wish to/are considering purchasing
[14:07] <sweb> IdleOne, thank
[14:07] <mylisto> whats an easy way to tell which architechure you are running ie i386 or amd?
[14:08] <sweb> bazhang, ok thank
[14:08] <IdleOne> mylisto: uname -a
[14:08] <CloudLevi> jrib: Thankfully I only had to process-kill it and it restarted itself =D. 'Nother question...kinda random curiosity... does Ubuntu lock files that are in use to the point where I have to be out of the OS in order to modify them?
[14:09] <mylisto> idleone: sorry that didn't help much...didn't show if I have i386 or amd...this is what was displayed
[14:09] <mylisto> Linux mylisto-laptop 2.6.27-17-generic #1 SMP Wed Jan 27 23:14:44 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:09] <jrib> CloudLevi: no
[14:09] <eax> Hi there - I have a problem with my Nvidia FX5600 -  I cannot chose other resolutions than 320x240 and 640x480. What can I do to run the correct resolution? Using the nvidia controlpanel this is.
[14:09] <IdleOne> mylisto: I686
[14:09] <mylisto> ah ok..thanks :D
[14:10] <IdleOne> np
[14:10] <mylisto> god I'm a moron..didn't see it in there :d
[14:10] <mylisto> thanks
[14:10] <CloudLevi> jrib: 'cause back on Windows I tried to replace Explorer...were some other files I needed to replace with it that just would NOT die. No command line access outside the OS at ALL and no Linux at the time so I couldn't (Slap me for not thinking of this at the time) switch over...
[14:10] <IdleOne> mylisto: we never see what is in front of us :)
[14:10] <mylisto> is i686 the same as amd64?
[14:10] <mylisto> I'm guessing it is
[14:10] <CloudLevi> jrib: Yay. I guess everything is stored in RAM, eh?
[14:11] <MikeH_> Hi guys, any idea why after following these instructions, and putting the relevant stuff in .profile that I still get asked for a passphrase each time I connect to the host with the sshkey?
[14:11] <j0el> eax, can I see your xorg.conf please?
[14:11] <MikeH_> http://mah.everybody.org/docs/ssh
[14:11] <IdleOne> mylisto: no, least i don't think so
[14:11] <eax> j0el: Yup one moment
[14:11] <jrib> CloudLevi: what are you trying to accomplish?
[14:11] <eax> j0el: Here: http://eax.dk/xorg.conf
[14:12] <mylisto> hmm
[14:12] <IdleOne> mylisto: what version of ubuntu did you install?
[14:12] <CloudLevi> jrib: Nothing right now. just curiosity. But if I wanted to replace vital system files, I could do it while logged in via sudo, right?
[14:13] <jrib> CloudLevi: you would never want to do that
[14:13] <mylisto> 8.10
[14:13] <IdleOne> mylisto: 32bit ubuntu runs just fine on x64
[14:13] <CloudLevi> jrib: assuming I knew what I was doing....
[14:13] <jrib> CloudLevi: it's like asking "If I wanted to drive my car into a lake..."
[14:13] <CloudLevi> jrib: like... to patch something
[14:14] <jrib> CloudLevi: the answer to your question is yes, you can do whatever you want, but, again, you would never want to
[14:14] <mylisto> idleone: should have been more clear :D  I'm trying to install the closed source version of virtual box..not sure if I should use the i386 or the amd64 one
[14:14] <j0el> First put this option in eax #Option "UseEDID" "False"
[14:14] <eax> j0el: Where in the file? :)
[14:14] <CloudLevi> jrib: yay. mostly just the GUI... got dreams
[14:14] <j0el> xorg
[14:15] <j0el> xorg.conf
[14:15] <IdleOne> mylisto: I would guess go with the default and chose i386
[14:15] <sweb> so any one here use tablet with ubuntu ?
[14:15] <sweb> wich brand that you recommend to me ?
[14:15] <j0el> Sweb, I setup an HP tablet for a friend once.
[14:15] <eax> j0el: Sorry, I meant where in the xorg.conf file? :)
[14:15] <mylisto> thats the one I chose, thanks idleone:
[14:15] <j0el> ah... Section "Device" eax
[14:15] <CloudLevi> sweb: WACOM Graphire 2 works without DL
[14:15] <sweb> j0el, ow HP, yeah
[14:15] <Oer> wacom next generation is tha bomb, multi touch
[14:16] <albeos> ola
[14:16] <IdleOne> hello albeos
[14:16] <albeos> como va
[14:16] <sweb> CloudLevi, without DL ? what's your mean ?
[14:16] <albeos> hola
[14:16] <IdleOne> !es | albeos
[14:16] <e-DIO-t> yo!
[14:16] <albeos> si
[14:17] <edbian> The preferred applications GUI doesn't have enough control.  Is there a better way to tell the system what apps should open what file types?
[14:17] <albeos> quien eres
[14:17] <j0el> eax- Add that line and restart. Let us know if anything improves.
[14:17] <CloudLevi> sweb: on Windows you have to download drivers to make the coordinate tracking work, else it's just a mouse pointer.
[14:17] <albeos> quieres follar
[14:17] <eax> j0el: Okay :) That's been added and I have restarted Xorg but it didn't help :/
[14:17] <j0el> ok
[14:17] <CloudLevi> sweb: on LINUX the coordinates work right out the box.
[14:18] <sweb> CloudLevi, so WACOM is good option ?
[14:18] <mandrew> how do i set up a VPN service in ubuntu 10.04?
[14:18] <j0el> Someone with more knowlege than I should help you eax. -_-
[14:18] <joaopinto> !lucid | mandrew
[14:18] <CloudLevi> sweb: the BEST.
[14:18] <eax> j0el: Fair enough :)
[14:18] <DanJ> Is there a way to modify headers using Charles (http proxy debugger) ?
[14:18] <eax> j0el: Thanks anyways ^^
[14:21] <CloudLevi> sweb: Reading me in the other window?
[14:21] <edbian> The preferred applications GUI doesn't have enough control.  Is there a better way to tell the system what apps should open what file types?
[14:21] <kuku> I managed to mess up my display settings (Karmic) - where is the text file I can edit to undo stuff?
[14:21] <jrib> edbian: what control is missing?  You pick any app you want to open a filetype.  What else do you want?
[14:22] <jrib> !defaultapp | edbian
[14:22] <edbian> jrib, What?  I can't tell it what program should open .docx for example
[14:22] <eax> Hi there - I have a problem with my Nvidia FX5600 -  I cannot chose other resolutions than 320x240 and 640x480. What can I do to run the correct resolution? Using the nvidia controlpanel this is.
[14:22] <jrib> edbian: see ubottu (I thought that's what you were referring to but I see now you meant the menu item instead)
[14:22] <edbian> jrib, Oh!  Yes :)  That is what I'm looking for :)  I was talking about system -> preferences -> preferred apps
[14:23] <Oer> eax what version of ubuntu do you use ?
[14:23] <eax> Oer: 10.04
[14:23] <edbian> jrib, I would just like to hand it to the gnome people (or nautilus) that  that feature was so simple and easy to find that I overlooked it!
[14:23] <edbian> ha ha ha.  Linux is great :D
[14:24] <Oer> eax sorry, support for lucid in #ubuntu+1
[14:24] <eax> Oer: Okay thanks :)
[14:24] <kuku>  I managed to mess up my display settings (Karmic) - where is the text file I can edit to undo stuff?
[14:26] <Beelsebob> Heya, apologies for my noobishness in advance… What is the normal process for getting mysql running on an ubuntu box?
[14:26] <jrib> !lamp | Beelsebob
[14:27] <Beelsebob> cheers jrib
[14:29] <Guest32153> Cant i open wow installer whit wine from Cd ?
[14:29] <its-me-again> hi all
[14:29] <Guest32153> Cant i open wow installer whit wine from Cd ?
[14:29] <its-me-again> i am looking for the dependances for undtbootin. anyone abpoe to help
[14:31] <magmarules_> Guys im trying to "mount" a zip file creted in a java program, it doesnt work. When i zip the same folder structure with archive manager it mounts ok. Is there anything special i need to do to create a "mountable" zip?
[14:31] <Beelsebob> jrib: okay, that doc agrees with what I've done right up until just after changing the bind-address in my.conf – unfortunately though, mysql -u root is giving me "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[14:32] <Carmen> olaa!! soy carmen la de 6a
[14:32] <Carmen> ay alguien ay
[14:32] <sinistrad> Guest32153, I'm thinking there was something strange about the WoW discs that the expansions would not be readable. I had to copy the discs to the hard drive into a folder and just install that way once I got it to read the disc, which is problematic if you have to hack each one in the middle of an install
[14:32] <Carmen> hello
[14:32] <jvelo> ki
[14:32] <Carmen> mooy?
[14:32] <Carmen> carlos?
[14:32] <IdleOne> !es | Carmen
[14:32] <przemek_> ktoś tu pisze po polsku :D
[14:32] <Pici> !pl | przemek_
[14:33] <Carmen> Olaa!!
[14:33] <Pici> przemek_: #ubuntu-pl
[14:33] <albeos__> ooola
[14:33] <Carmen> qienes sois?
[14:33] <its-me-again> magmarules_: archive manager cant mount .zip files
[14:33] <przemek_> thanks ubot ;)
[14:33] <Carmen> olle no os entiendo
[14:33] <albeos_> ola
[14:34] <albeos__> ola
[14:34] <its-me-again> magmarules_: get 7zip and all its addons then do it from command line
[14:34] <albeos_> .kk
[14:34] <Carmen> ablar en español porfa
[14:34] <Carmen> !!
[14:34] <albeos_> añlexito
[14:34] <albeos__> sandruskeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[14:34] <IdleOne> Carmen: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[14:34] <albeos_> .pjpo
[14:34] <Carmen> de colegios sois??
[14:34] <magmarules_> its-me-again: well i use Archive Mounter sorry =).
[14:34] <Carmen> KILLO NO OS ENTIENDO OK!!
[14:35] <kuku>  I managed to mess up my display settings (Karmic) - where is the text file I can edit to undo stuff?
[14:35] <its-me-again> magmarules_: well you are out of luck sorry archive mounter wont mount .zip files in my experance
[14:35] <albeos_> alex
[14:35] <Carmen> HABLA EN  CRISTIANO COJONES
[14:35] <genii> !es | Carmen
[14:35] <Carmen> DE DONDE SOIS
[14:35] <genii> Carmen: English in  here
[14:35] <zebastian> help, i used the supergrub disk to be able to boot in ubuntu after installing windows and now i cant boot windows as it doesnt appear on the grub list
[14:35] <zebastian> what do i do?
[14:36] <its-me-again> magmarules_: believe me i spent a week trying tpo find a graphical application without fail
[14:36] <albeos_> FOCKET
[14:36] <kuku>  I managed to mess up my display settings (Karmic) - where is the text file I can edit to undo stuff?
[14:36] <Typh> I hate that there's already junk in my vimrc file. It should be clean when I first touch it >(
[14:36] <Typh> er
[14:36] <Typh> bashrc
[14:36] <albeos_> FOLLAME OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[14:36] <magmarules_> its-me-again: well some do others, dont. Thats what im trying to figure out, because my final goal is to generate a docx file. But zipping it with java code wont open in openoffice
[14:37] <genii> albeos_: English in this channel please
[14:37] <aivaras> Installed ubuntu via wubi.exe. Now I have left with 300mb on my ubuntu install. How do I expand space or put it on separate partition? Tried LVPM and it doesn't do anything...
[14:37] <its-me-again> anyway now i am looking for the dependances for undtbootin.
[14:37] <IdleOne> albeos_: stop please
[14:37] <its-me-again> magmarules_: y do you need it to be .zip file anyway
[14:38] <zebastian> can anyone help me out? i was afraid i wouldn't be able to go back into ubuntu after installing windows, i used supergrub disk as i was told to, only now i cant boot into windows
[14:38] <its-me-again> IdleOne: can you help
[14:38] <solotim> Hi, group, I installed icewm in xubuntu. Can I remove xubuntu-desktop package now?
[14:39] <aivaras> Installed ubuntu via wubi.exe. Now I have left with 300mb on my ubuntu install. How do I expand space or put it on separate partition? Tried LVPM and it doesn't do anything...
[14:39] <Kransac> Hi everyone
[14:39] <its-me-again> zebastian: you need to put windows first on drive then teh ubuntu grub should pick it up automaticly
[14:39] <IdleOne> !unetbootin > its-me-again
[14:39] <zebastian> its-me-again: can i do this by booting from the supergrub disk again?
[14:39] <its-me-again> yes i need to see teh dependances for ubuntu
[14:40] <fixxxermet> Is "intel" the right driver to use for an intel mobiel grapics chipset?
[14:40] <its-me-again> zebastian: dont know i never used a super grub disk try and see
[14:40] <aaa_> salut
[14:40] <IdleOne> its-me-again: packages.ubuntu.com will show you the depends of a package
[14:40] <its-me-again> zebastian: i would follow teh suggested way of installing windows first
[14:41] <iflema> zebastian on what partition did you install win7? did you reinstall grub or just boot into ubuntu using supergrub?
[14:41] <james1892> HI does anybody know how I can set a subdomain to be cookieless~?
[14:41] <zebastian> iflema: i installed windows 7 on the biggest unallocated space, i then booted from supergrub and got grub back as signaled on the ubuntu page
[14:41] <zebastian> however now i dont get windows on the list
[14:42] <Kransac> I'm curently runing kubuntu 9.10 on my laptop. When I installed it I chose to crypt the home directory. Now I'd like reinstall ubuntu. Is there something I should do for ubuntu to be able to access the /home?
[14:42] <aivaras> "Creating new root.disk, of size 200000 MB" using LVPM to resize my wubi.exe install. But the progress bar doesn't change.. Any TIPS ?
[14:42] <iflema> zebastian the instructions were to reinstall grub or install grub2?
[14:42] <its-me-again> IdleOne: there is no search feature on that site where would i find unetbootin
[14:43] <zebastian> iflema: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub#Recovery Using the Unofficial "Super Grub Disk"
[14:44] <aivaras> "Creating new root.disk, of size 200000 MB" using LVPM to resize my wubi.exe install. But the progress bar doesn't change.. Any TIPS ?
[14:44] <kev_> my display has become so big all of a sudden. No, I checked the screen resolution. Everything's alright in other user accounts.
[14:44] <AlexDie> hi
[14:44] <kev_> Any ideas?
[14:44] <zebastian> brb i am going to try to boot again with supergrub
[14:45] <aivaras> Anyone has ANY experience using LVPM ???
[14:45] <MikeH_> Hrm, I've installed Apache2, libapache2-php5 and php5, yet when trying to view php files it offers them for download instead
[14:45] <MikeH_> I've checked and both php5.conf and php5.load are in mods-enabled
[14:45] <MikeH_> any suggestions?
[14:46] <afc-admin> hello every one
[14:46] <alien260> MikeH_:  so when you go to localhost you dont get the PHP message you get a download? if so what is in ur /var/www?
[14:47] <MikeH_> alien260: Oddly, a restart of apache seems to have done it, even though it restarted apache during libapache2-php5 postinstall
[14:47] <alien260> MikeH_: Ha.. sometimes it's not as reliable during install .. :)
[14:47] <geekphreak> hmm
[14:48] <james1892> anybody know how I can set a cookieless subdomain ?
[14:48] <afc-admin> does anyone know how to print local through tsclient
[14:50] <kev_> anybody got any idea about fixing really large display in ubuntu?
[14:51] <squiggie> Good morning. I have a strange issue with incoming connections on Lucid alpha 2. https and ssh were working from the WAN. I haven't touched my router at all and it is still forwarding ports. I can see the external connections coming in with iftop but ssh will not connect and neither will https. They just time out. Ideas?
[14:51] <geekphreak> squiggie:  #ubuntu+1
[14:52] <squiggie> geekphreak: Is that the channel for Lucid or something?
[14:52] <kasun> hellom
[14:52] <geekphreak> squiggie: yes sir
[14:53] <squiggie> geekphreak: thanks!
[14:53] <kasun> i need a big help please?
[14:53] <geekphreak> zebastian: welcome back how did it go sir
[14:53] <zebastian> iflema: back, didnt work
[14:53] <iflema> zebastian in a terminal type    sudo fdisk -l    tell me what partion fdisk says win7 is on and ill tell you how to add it to the boot menu.....
[14:53] <zebastian> it didnt go well i couldnt figure out how to get windows back
[14:54] <zebastian> iflema: http://pastebin.com/WRwshsMq
[14:55] <kasun> accidently my USB pen got removed from PC when a file is copying to it. Now it says it is a Read-only file system. And now I can't copy anything to it. Any help for this is appreciated
[14:55] <erUSUL> kasun: have you checked it ? gparted can check filesystems
[14:55] <e-DIO-t> kasun: what about unmounting and remounting it with -O rw ?
[14:56] <kasun> erUSUL, I'll do it and tell the output
[14:56] <michael__> Has anyone here gotten quickcam to work?
[14:57] <michael__> also has anyone had problems with jfsutils?
[14:57] <mgj> Where can i change the amount of lines my scroll-wheel on my mouse scrolls? Interestingly enough, i see no such setting in system -> prefs -> mouse
[14:58] <james1892> fajita: which channel?
[14:58] <kasun> erUSUL, check is disabled in GParted
[14:58] <iflema> zebastian ive never done it with the bootdrive..... theres a little bootdrive thingon your install of win7  im not sure if its gonaa work..... we can try
[14:59] <kasun> e-DIO-t, I just safely removed it again and inserted again.
[14:59] <zebastian> iflema: ok, what do i do
[14:59] <kasun> e-DIO-t, Ill do it and try again
[14:59] <erUSUL> kasun: you have to umount it ? it is a fat32 filesystem ?
[14:59] <kasun> erUSUL, yes
[14:59] <erUSUL> kasun: make usre it is umounted. i ahve to go sorry
[15:00] <kasun> erUSUL, okay. thanks.
[15:00] <iflema> zebastian in a terminal    sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    add >> http://pastebin.com/X9AR3gek
[15:01] <yannick_d> Hi, where is the iso for edubuntu rc ? It is not there: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/10.04/rc/
[15:01] <yannick_d> 386 version
[15:01] <iflema> zebastian add it down the bottom
[15:01] <zebastian> iflema: i got this http://pastebin.com/K1KcYVmn
[15:01] <zebastian> where do i put it?
[15:02] <zebastian> iflema: where down the bottom? after or before ## ## End Default Options ##
[15:03] <zebastian> iflema: before ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST ?
[15:03] <iflema> zebastian under the ubuntu entries
[15:04] <zebastian> ok
[15:04] <zebastian> save and reboot?
[15:04] <mbruins> hello, i installed ubuntu for multiple users on one account but, i would like that EVERY user has gnome-terminal in white on black
[15:04] <mbruins> is that possible?
[15:04] <mbruins> and im not meaning making a profile
[15:04] <zebastian> iflema: done, save and reboot?
[15:04] <iflema> zebastian yes
[15:05] <enhadieciel> hi
[15:05] <enhadieciel> please help me,how to using vpn on ubuntu 9.10
[15:06] <Noriandir> hi
[15:06] <IdleOne> enhadieciel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[15:06] <Noriandir> i have a ATI X1700 mobile and I want to have 3d aceleration on Ubuntu 9.10
[15:07] <Noriandir> can anyone help?
[15:07] <alien260> enhadieciel: VPN is always a pain (in my experience) for ubuntu but have a look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[15:07] <mbruins> well nevermind, i just changed the default profile and that seems to work.
[15:07] <iflema> zebastian last time i done that win7 only mad one partition for itself.... you install has made two.... a little bootdrive and the the OS itelf.... im not sure what to do here... someone hee know 4 sure.....
[15:07] <mbruins> keep up the good work
[15:07] <enhadieciel> ???
[15:08] <Noriandir> plz? can anyone help?
[15:10] <alien260> Noriandir: have a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers
[15:10] <Noriandir> alien260: no can do. the fglrx doenst support the X1700 card
[15:11] <kasun> e-DIO-t, it is working now. thanks for the help! :)
[15:11] <Noriandir> alien260: because its a legacy card
[15:11] <aar> Hi, is it possible to get the clock to display the month in Roman numerals? E.g. I would need it to say 22-IV-10 rather than 22-4-10.
[15:12] <Ven]n> yo
[15:13] <enhadieciel> ok
[15:13] <tarzeau> aar: you'd have to patch it
[15:13] <tarzeau> aar: ick, why would you want that?
[15:14] <aar> tarzeau, It's the standard way of doing it in many countries. Makes it easy to distinguish date from month (espcially when dealing with international documents, where the order gets inverted).
[15:14] <IdleOne> aar: take a look here it might help you do what you want http://ubuntu.igameilive.com/2009/12/custom-clock-in-ubuntu-910.html
[15:15] <tarzeau> aar: never seen that...
[15:15] <squiggie> Good morning. I was wondering if someone could help me out with a little samba issue. I've go samba up and running and I can see the shares but when I try to copy files to the shares, it tells me the drive is full and I need to clear spacce. However, the drive isn't full. I've checked with df and it isn't. The drive is a NTFS volume external usb drive. I had this drive working with Jaunty but after an upgrade, I get this error. 
[15:16] <aar> IdleOne, thanks I'll try that.
[15:16] <gdzsi> hmm... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/rc/
[15:17] <gdzsi> no x86 yet...
[15:18] <gdzsi> @squiggie: do you have a samba server running and are you trying to access it from another machine, or what? it's a bit unclear...
[15:19] <user1> dul?
[15:19] <user1> lagune ganti!!
[15:20] <squiggie> gdzsi: yes, smbd is running and I'm trying to access it from a windows laptop. I can get to the shares and even delete things from the shares, but when I try to write something to it, i get a message that the drive is full.
[15:20] <axisys> where can I get the libiconv ?
[15:20] <genii> !id | user1
[15:21] <axisys> apt-cache search libiconv finds nothing
[15:21] <gdzsi> have you tried accessing them from another *nix machine?
[15:22] <gdzsi> ms network is something that usually doesn't work for me under windows itself :) it usually works this way though
[15:22] <resno> how do i find the location of my input device? "/dev/dsp"
[15:22] <aar> resno, try typing "mount"
[15:23] <GCCC> Any word on when the RC might be available today?
[15:23] <Nalleman> Hi, I just installed UNR 9.10, how can I add my dropbox folder under the "folder shortcut", its the only "personal" folder I uses.
[15:24] <IdleOne> GCCC: sometime today
[15:24] <squiggie> gdzsi: Sorry, I had to reboot for a second. I'm sorry if I missed your reply.
[15:24] <resno> aar: how do i know which one it is?
[15:24] <gdzsi> you haven't missed much
[15:24] <gdzsi> rc images are avaible now
[15:25] <gdzsi> at least i see them on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/rc/
[15:25] <Nalleman> It must be possible to customize the "Files and folders" tab?
[15:25] <Cameron> I have a canon mp860 printer, and managed to get it working with the canon DEB drivers, however it takes 8 minutes of processing before it prints the first page, is this normal ?
[15:25] <aar> resno, by the label and file type normally. If in doubt, navigate to the directory itself and check out what files it's got.
[15:25] <GCCC> IdleOne: thanks... I'm in CET, so I'm hoping it's out before I turn in for the night... it's late afternoon here...
[15:27] <ic_fly> hi where or to to whom do i report errors in the official ubuntu documentation, or how can i change it?
[15:27] <Nalleman> Anyone here that is familiar to UNR?
[15:27] <dman> im having an issue where all my gnome windows are all of a sudden sticking in grid form, how would i disable that?
[15:27] <h00k> Nalleman: sure, just ask your question
[15:28] <Nalleman> h00k:I just installed UNR 9.10, how can I add my dropbox folder under the "folder shortcut", its the only "personal" folder I uses.
[15:28] <ic_fly> dman: you probably enabled snappy windows in compiz
[15:28] <gdzsi> @dman: isn't it an unwanted compiz effect? :D
[15:28] <ic_fly> use the conpiz settings editor
[15:28] <ic_fly> under system>prefrences
[15:28] <dman> ic_fly: it was the update to 10.4 beta so it could be a bug
[15:28] <ic_fly> to disable it
[15:28] <dman> compiz is not currently enabled
[15:28] <IdleOne> ic_fly: report a bug on the specific package on launchpad
[15:28] <[DarkSun]> i installed ubuntu karmic(kinda new to ubuntu, long time gentoo user), and this network manager thing seems to only work when it wants to, it tells me no wired conection, but if i bring down then up the eth0 it magicly says its connected, is there a way to make it work like it should/
[15:28] <ic_fly> ah
[15:28] <h00k> Nalleman: and by that, you mean Files and Folders?
[15:28] <agaran_> hola buenas tardes
[15:28] <Nalleman> h00k, yes
[15:29] <IdleOne> ic_fly: as for fixing it I am not sure
[15:29] <Pici> !es | agaran_
[15:29] <h00k> Nalleman: if it is in your /home (/home/username/Dropbox) it should already show up there
[15:29] <h00k> Nalleman: if it is and it's not, I'm not exactly sure where that reads directories from
[15:29] <ic_fly> IdleOne: cheers will do
[15:29] <axisys> i guess i will just compile iconv to get libiconv.. does not look like ubuntu has a package for it
[15:29] <Nalleman> h00k, ok. it doesnt so there is the problem
[15:30] <h00k> Nalleman: gotcha.  You can easily move it with the Dropbox config
[15:31] <Nalleman> well, the folder is present in the "correct" folder, but it doesent show in "Files and Folder"
[15:31] <peturi> Where can i download the RC for 10.04 ?
[15:31] <gdzsi> still http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/rc/
[15:32] <digitalstimulus> peturi, I got it from ubuntu.org
[15:32] <digitalstimulus> err .com
[15:32] <peturi> Okay guys.. can i upgrade my 9.10 stable to RC ?
[15:32] <arand> peturi: It's not released yet
[15:32] <peturi> without downloading the .iso ?
[15:32] <Pici> peturi : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[15:32] <peturi> arand: It's on cdimage.ubuntu.com ^^
[15:32] <arand> peturi: yep
[15:32] <arand> !lucid
[15:32] <aar> Will it be possible to upgrade from 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS?
[15:32] <squiggie> gdzsi: Cannot copy [filename]: There is not enough free disk space. Delete one or more files to free disk space and then try again. That is the error that I get, however I can copy it to my home dir that is shared, and them mv it to the ntfs volume just fine.
[15:32] <Pici> aar : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[15:33]  * resno pokes Pici 
[15:33] <Pici> resno: yes?
[15:33] <gdzsi> squigguie: are you using the gui tools for the shares?
[15:33] <firues> hello users
[15:33] <resno> Pici: never mind, this is business here
[15:33] <wastrel> heinous
[15:33] <squiggie> gdzsi: Yes, I originally did that but have tweaked some setting manually in the .conf file as well.
[15:33] <petur_> hi
[15:34] <petur_> can us ee what i write?
[15:34] <wastrel> petur_: yup
[15:34] <petur_> ok cool, my other client disconnected...
[15:34] <resno> i am using xvidcap to do screencaptures, and i am trying to configure the input device, is "/dev/dsp" the correct location?
[15:34] <petur_> Is there a way to update to 10.04 using apt-get ?
[15:34] <petur_> apt-get -> apt...
[15:35] <Pici> peturi: Please ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:35] <gdzsi> resno: /dev/dsp is the default sound card or something like that
[15:35] <IdleOne> petur_: not recommended
[15:35] <petur_> IdleOne: why not?
[15:35] <gdzsi> IdleOne: use update-manager -d
[15:35] <resno> gdzsi: is there a way to grep for the real one, because this one isnt getting the sound
[15:35] <[DarkSun]> i installed ubuntu karmic(kinda new to ubuntu, long time gentoo user), and this network manager thing seems to only work when it wants to, it tells me no wired conection, but if i bring down then up the eth0 it magicly says its connected, is there a way to make it work like it should?
[15:35] <wastrel> there is a cli method for update-manager
[15:35] <gdzsi> yep
[15:35] <Pici> petur_: Lucid is not supported in this channel, please use #ubuntu+1
[15:36] <petur_> pici oki :)
[15:36] <jonalv> so I am installing mysql-server and I get a question saying that if I don't write a new root password but leaves it blank then the passord will not be changed. What was is the default value which will be kept?
[15:36] <neil_d> can you setup a tap interface via the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[15:36] <IdleOne> petur_: not sure how to say this without sounding rude but if you need help to to upgrade to a beta release then you shouldn't be doing it :/
[15:37] <BBobo> HOWTO change to Ubuntu Lucid WITHOUT reinstalling/tweaking everything from scratch all over again. I need to change to Lucid to get newer kernel + device drivers. I am using Linux Mint 8 Helena at the moment, but I've done lots of tweaking etc and don't have time to start from a fresh install from a Lucid ISO...  Any suggestions pls?
[15:37] <IdleOne> petur_: that being said, gdzsi's way works
[15:37] <Pici> BBobo : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[15:37] <BBobo> ok thanks
[15:37] <petur_> IdleOne: Your not rude at all, I'm just too used to write my questions in dumbed-down format
[15:37] <resno> i see the lucid convo is kicking up
[15:38] <IdleOne> petur_: ok, I am glad you understood my intentions
[15:38] <petur_> IdleOne: :)
[15:38] <dman> hrm how do i get xorg to recongifure it self like it does in the ubuntu install
[15:38] <james1892> anybody know how I can make my subdomain cookieless?
[15:38] <dman> dpkg-reconfigure doesnt seem to replace the conf
[15:40] <james1892> anybody know how I can make my subdomain cookieless??
[15:40] <Lazy^> Hi, i'm getting this error with openldap  " LDAP error! Referral: . " any clue about the problem.
[15:44] <iceroot> Lazy^: no, the error-description is not usefull
[15:44] <resno> i am using xvidcap to do screencaptures, and i am trying to configure the input device. how can i find the driver in use?
[15:44] <Lazy^> iceroot: yeps, that is wath i tought also. But i get that error, nothing else...
[15:45] <iceroot> Lazy^: what have you typed to get that error, have you tried #slapd and so on
[15:46] <moreia> I have some dual display questions. Somehow, I've got a zone of desktop that I can't get to while I'm in dual display. the topmost part of one screen is not visible. I cantake a screenshot and see it though.
[15:46] <gmatt> how do i bridge 2 wireless adapters to 1?
[15:46] <Nalleman> I just installed UNR 9.10, My dropbox folder is not presen in the "Files and Folders" tab, its the only "personal" folder I uses and I would like to know how to add it under "Files and Folders".
[15:47] <mrp> whats the best way to backup my ~ to my remote server? I would like to store incremantal backups if possibe
[15:48] <IdleOne> !backup > mrp
[15:48] <gmatt> !wifi device bridge
[15:48] <gmatt> wow...
[15:48] <IdleOne> gmatt: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs has info
[15:49] <mrp> they are useless :(
[15:49] <aar> Does openssh use the ssh or the ssh2 protocol by default?
[15:49] <wise_crypt> gmatt; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridging_(networking)
[15:49] <ikonia> mrp: in what way useless ?
[15:50] <gmatt> i'm wanting to bridge my USB wifi device and my built in wifi device on my laptop so that they both get a signal from the same router...
[15:50] <mrp> simple backup config doesn't run! :(
[15:50] <ikonia> mrp: sorry, what tool are you trying to use ?
[15:50] <wise_crypt> gmatt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[15:50] <tenmiles> gmatt: try looking into network load balancing.
[15:50] <mrp> sbackup
[15:51] <mrp> I would use rsync back writing a script is over my head
[15:51] <IdleOne> mrp: grsync
[15:51] <IdleOne> makes rsync easier to use
[15:52] <resno> i am using xvidcap to do screencaptures, and i am trying to configure the input device. how can i find the driver in use?
[15:52] <tenmiles> gmatt: or bonding. I think that's another term for it.
[15:52] <ikonia> mrp: what part of sbackup is not working, I've just setup a quick backup on it, and it worked fine
[15:52] <mrp> ikonia: i hit backup and it does nothing
[15:53] <ikonia> mrp: did you set it up ?
[15:53] <mrp> ikonia: yes
[15:53] <mrp> ill try again
[15:54] <aar> Does openssh use the ssh or the ssh2 protocol by default?
[15:54] <joaopinto> ssh2
[15:54] <ikonia> mrp: did you get a messages saying the backup run has been iniiated
[15:54] <ikonia> initiated
[15:54] <aar> joaopinto, thks again
[15:55] <mrp> ikonia: yes and it gave me a pid but nothing happens
[15:55] <ikonia> mrp: it's backing up
[15:55] <ikonia> mrp: look in the destination directory
[15:57] <Beelsebob> so… I just marked a bunch of stuff to install in synaptic
[15:57] <Beelsebob> then it crashed
[15:57] <Beelsebob> and now the stuff I marked is no longer in the package list
[15:58] <Beelsebob> how do I go about getting it to delete and recreate it's package lists? a simple update didn't do the trick
[15:58] <mrp> ikonia: mines empty "A backup run is initiated in the background. The process id is: 17021."
[15:59] <ikonia> mrp: yes, so it's backing up
[15:59] <ikonia> mrp: hence the words "in the background"
[15:59] <mrp> ikonia: hrmmm
[15:59] <Oer> Beelsebob, perhaps sudo apt-get clean , then update
[15:59] <james1892> anybody know how I can make my subdomain cookieless??
[16:00] <aar> james1892, you mean you don't want to accept any cookies whilst browsing the web?
[16:00] <james1892> no I want my subdomain to not send out cookies when serving images
[16:01] <aar> james1892, cookies are nto sent by default AFAIK. Are you the network admin of your subdomain?
[16:02] <james1892> yes
[16:02] <jonalv> I am on 9.10 how can I install sun Java 5?
[16:03] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  short question: I installed ubuntu 8.04 on an usb disk... and I was hoping that a new grub will be installed there, too...  but it seems as if this was not the case and my actual grub was overwritten...  now how do I restore grub for my "original" 9.10 ubuntu?
[16:03] <aar> james1892, sorry i don't know how you're sending out cookies without wanting to.
[16:04] <iceroot> james1892: the subdomain has nothing to do with sending cookies, its part of the web-application
[16:04] <IdleOne> !grub2 > howlymowly
[16:04] <utu> hi to everybody !!
[16:05] <james1892> right ok,,, the subdomain is a Cname of the domain,, but ill ill look into it
[16:05] <Maroven> hello
[16:05] <Maroven> noob here
[16:05] <IdleOne> !hi | Maroven
[16:06] <Maroven> great u can see what I type
[16:06] <IdleOne> I can
[16:06] <Maroven> I am having trouble with 10.04 Beta 2
[16:07] <Pici> Maroven : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[16:07] <Maroven> even with all the updates I can get the system locks up
[16:07] <jonalv> Can nobody help me  getting Sun Java 5 on Ubuntu 9.10?
[16:07] <IdleOne> Pici: you got that as an alias
[16:07] <IdleOne> that;s cheating
[16:07] <wise_crypt> !update-rc.d > wise_crypt
[16:07] <iceroot> jonalv: why not using v6?
[16:08] <willfrand> acabo de hacer un par de cambios en ubuntu karmic, pero la resolucion de mi pantalla ha quedado hecha trizas, solo tengo de 800x600, y mi screen es 1024x768, alguien puede ayudarme a organizarla de nuevo?
[16:08] <jonalv> iceroot: because it is not backwards compatible if you are shipping JavaScript...
[16:08] <aar> !es | willfrand
[16:08] <Pici> !es | willfrand
[16:08] <iceroot> jonalv: javascript is needing sun-java6-jre?
[16:08] <vivek> hii .. I am trying to mount my sd card using the sd card reader on my system but it is just not identifying the sd card reader when plugged to the usb drive
[16:09] <jonalv> iceroot: no, sun java 6 ships with JAvaScript and if the program does it to then they will collide and it doesn't work... >*
[16:09] <cptblod> having an issue with a wlan netadapter, D-Link DWL-G122 rev E1G
[16:09] <cptblod> how do i install this?
[16:09] <iceroot> cptblod: install?
[16:09] <cptblod> when configure & make
[16:09] <Pici> jonalv: Sun Java is not the same thing as javascropt
[16:09] <cptblod> well
[16:09] <jonalv> Pici: no I didn't say that
[16:10] <a16bitsoft> Release Candidate released!
[16:10] <wise_crypt> cptblod: when configure & make .... and then > pastebin
[16:11] <jonalv> Pici: but Java 6 ships with JavaScript inside it. Java 5 didn't. If you try to run a program built for Java 5 which in itself ships with JavaScript then you will have a collision and things doesn't owrk. Hence I want to install Java 5 on Ubuntu 9.10. Do you know if it can be done?
[16:11] <Maroven> jonalv hold up
[16:11] <Maroven> what do u mean by javascript inside it?
[16:11] <chrislovvet> can anyone tell me how to get an ati x1600 pro to install on ubuntu 9.10?
[16:11] <Maroven> what sort of application are u building
[16:12] <Sumpen> Hey guys! Every time i try to flush iptables, "iptables -F" i get thrown out and cant access the server. Any way to temporarily opening firewall without getting thrown out?
[16:12] <chrislovvet> i have downloaded some of the drivers that are listed on the software center but its like the system doesn't even detect that they are installed
[16:12] <jonalv> Maroven: I am not sure this is the right place for this discussion. Are you sure you want to know?
[16:13] <IdleOne> jonalv: if it isn't appropriate take it private please
[16:13] <wise_crypt> !topic
[16:13] <Maroven> is anyone running 10.04 beta 2
[16:13] <Maroven> ?
[16:13] <IdleOne> Maroven: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[16:14] <Maroven> k ty
[16:14] <Gremnon> I've got a package (libxfce4ui) that refuses to be removed, reinstalled, anything at all with synaptic, aptitude, apt-get and even what little I know of dpkg, and it's blocking normal upgrades and such, is there any way beyond a reinstall to fix this?
[16:15] <geekphreak> Gremnon:  can you pastebin teh error message?
[16:16] <geekphreak> iflema: how did it go with that guy?
[16:16] <chrislovvet> hello?
[16:16] <nxu> well this is all very exciting
[16:17] <Gremnon> geekphreak, just doing that now, waiting on a slow connection to load the page, give me a few
[16:17] <dotnetted> hey all - Ive got a Wube Ubuntu 9.1 installation running on a box where WinXP is the host system - I want to transfer ubuntu to a dedicated partition but I need to shrink the NTFS partition to create one - are there any partitioners that can do this from within ubuntu (while drive is mounted) or do I have to use a livecd?
[16:17] <geekphreak> Gremnon: no worries mate
[16:17] <jonalv> so without asking why does anyone know of a way of installing Sun Java 5 on Ubuntu 9.10 which doesn't include building it from source?
[16:18] <hybrid_mind> Any ideas why my system keeps freezing every 15m?
[16:18] <wise_crypt> !gparted > dotnetted
[16:18] <geekphreak> dotnetted: you will need something like gparted live cd
[16:18] <ix_> the rc is out
[16:18] <geekphreak> dotnetted:  defragment please before you resize :)
[16:18] <dispraekailo_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/TipsAndTricks#How_to_tile_windows_in_gnome << don't have an 'rc' file on my edgy install.. am I supposed to edit wmprofiles, or do I need to make a new file?
[16:18] <IdleOne> dotnetted: the ubuntu live cd also has gparted on it
[16:18] <chrislovvet> anyone here tell me how to install the drivers and catalyst control center for an ati x1600 pro graphics card?
[16:18] <dotnetted> geekphreak: have any suggestions for a good 'useful tools' livecd?
[16:18] <dotnetted> for future use
[16:19] <wng-> Is there any way to make a ext3 partition larger than 16TB?
[16:19] <geekphreak> IdleOne:  it does?
[16:19] <IdleOne> geekphreak: last I looked it did
[16:19] <geekphreak> ok
[16:19] <dotnetted> I think I read the ubuntu live cd has gparted but w/out ntfs capibilities
[16:19] <IdleOne> geekphreak: maybe I apt-get'ed it when I was running the live cd
[16:20] <Pici> jonalv: You could try grabbing the .deb from a previous release, via http://packages.ubuntu.com  .. but you'll be on your on in terms of support.
[16:20] <geekphreak> dotnetted: lots ubcd, sysrescue , and some other, , i use ubuntu live cd though , its the best got everything :)
[16:20] <Gremnon> geekphreak: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/420481/
[16:20] <aar> Is it possible to get a screenshot via ssh (from one ubuntu box to another, connected via a crossover cable)?
[16:20] <dotnetted> geekphreak: sounds good heh ill use that - any idea if it has ntfsprogs on it?
[16:21] <geekphreak> dotnetted: you will need gparted though for resizing ;)
[16:22] <geekphreak> Gremnon:  looking
[16:22] <dotnetted> yeah gparted/ntfsprogs apparently - whats the best way to check if they are on the live cd?
[16:23] <Gremnon> dotnetted, try booting to a command line from them, then grep the output of dpkg -l for ntfsprogs
[16:23] <geekphreak> Gremnon:  try this for me >> click system >> administration >>synaptic
[16:24] <Gremnon> geekphreak, using LXDE actually, but got synaptic up, doesn't have any complaints, if that's what you're after
[16:24] <dotnetted> gotcha - and last noob question: I dont remember if I installed 32 or 64 bit ubuntu on here - where could I check?
[16:24] <geekphreak> Gremnon:  look for that file, right click it when you find it >> complete removal
[16:24] <erUSUL> wng-: use ext4 :)
[16:24] <Gremnon> dotnetted, cat /proc/cpuinfo, and if you see 'lm' in the flags, it's 64-bit
[16:24] <geekphreak> Gremnon: otherwise we will try other way
[16:24] <dotnetted> Gremnon: thanks - it was painful to even type that question ;)
[16:25] <iceroot> Gremnon: he asked about the installation not what the cpu can handle
[16:25] <dotnetted> oh yeah os not cpu
[16:25] <h00k> dotnetted: you can do 'uname -m'
[16:25] <dotnetted> got it thanks - 64
[16:25] <iceroot> dotnetted: uname -m or dpkg --print-architecture
[16:26] <wng-> erUSUL: can ext4 even do it? I thought you couldn't create that volumes >16TB because of a limitation in mke2fs
[16:26] <Gremnon> geekphreak, it still insists on it being reinstalled before doing anything else
[16:26] <dotnetted> I don't suppose there are less packages available for 64 systems than there are for 32?
[16:26] <geekphreak> Gremnon:  ok , try it other way
[16:26] <iceroot> dotnetted: normally not
[16:28] <dispraekailo_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/TipsAndTricks#How_to_tile_windows_in_gnome << don't have an 'rc' file on my edgy install.. am I supposed to edit wmprofiles, or do I need to make a new file?
[16:28] <Gremnon> geekphreak, well, trying to reinstall like it wants just gave the same errors as trying to apt-get purge it again...
[16:28] <iceroot> dispraekailo_: edgy is out of support
[16:28] <dispraekailo_> yeah I realize that
[16:28] <dispraekailo_> this is a simple question
[16:29] <erUSUL> wng-: ok; looks like you are right about it ... xfs to the rescue ¿?
[16:30] <blod> wise_crypt: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=S4SsC6ti
[16:30] <airtonix> dispraekailo_, there is another program you can use to tile windows.
[16:31]  * wise_crypt scratched head
[16:31] <dotnetted> It seems like most packages I need in Synaptics are at least one version away from the current stable release - is there a more 'recent' or 'experimental' repo for synaptics?
[16:31] <dispraekailo_> airtonix, do tell
[16:32] <dispraekailo_> I don't need anything fancy, just looking for a quick script to tile xchat windows/tabs
[16:32] <dotnetted> for instance apache2 is currently 2.2.12 in repo and 2.2.15 latest release - seems like other linux distros ive used have had a little more recent packages
[16:33] <blod> wise_crypt: am i doing it wrong or what could be up?
[16:33] <Pici> !latest | dotnetted
[16:33]  * kost{a}s_thess is away: Gone away for now
[16:34] <wise_crypt> blod: wait
[16:34] <Pici> !away > kost{a}s_thess
[16:34] <blod> (im the same guy as cptblod)
[16:34] <iceroot> dotnetted: if there are no related security fixes from .12 to .15 there is no reason why it should be in the repos
[16:34] <Pici> dotnetted: Even in Lucid, which is releasing at the end of the month, doesn't even have .15, its only on .14
[16:34] <wise_crypt> blod: did you read the README file ?
[16:34] <dotnetted> iceroot: gotcha - makes sense
[16:35] <blod> yeah, i did what it told me too
[16:35] <iceroot> dotnetted: there will only be security-patches in the ubuntu-repos and only the ones which affect ubuntu
[16:35] <airtonix> dispraekailo_, what desktop environment are you using ?
[16:36] <dotnetted> are there 3rd party ubuntu repos worth looking at?
[16:36] <blod> here's the readme wise_crypt : http://pastebin.com/4x226Esw
[16:36] <wise_crypt> blod: what the device again
[16:36] <blod> dwl-g122 e1g
[16:36] <dispraekailo_> airtonix, gnome
[16:36] <iceroot> dotnetted: the canocial/partner one
[16:36] <airtonix> dispraekailo_, so just metacity for a window manager ?
[16:37] <dispraekailo_> airtonix, ancient edgy remember.. yeah metacity
[16:37] <iceroot> dotnetted: also the wine-repo from winehq for the latest (but unstable) builds
[16:37] <airtonix> dispraekailo_, what options have you tried already ?
[16:37] <dispraekailo_> uhh just trying to set up wmtile.. but I don't know what 'rc' file to edit before restarting gnome
[16:38] <airtonix> dispraekailo_, try looking for xtile
[16:38] <airtonix> dispraekailo_, http://open.vitaminap.it/en/x_tile.htm
[16:39] <dispraekailo_> airtonix, okay I'll look into that thanks
[16:39] <iWolf> I can't click with my Trackpad on an EEE 900 Celeron, With Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 Beta 2
[16:41] <wise_crypt> blod: did you really follow the instruction correctly ?
[16:41] <iceroot> iWolf: #ubuntu+1
[16:41] <blod> well, i did try the make config step
[16:41] <trijntje> mounting tmpfs to /tmp in Hardy leads to crashing programs with:cannot find display. How can I fix this?
[16:41] <blod> dunno if it was intended for kernel 2.4 or above wise_crypt
[16:41] <mbeierl> now that 10.04 is released, does anyone have any experiences they can share on the upgrade with Likewise installed?
[16:41] <blod> but that's where it fails
[16:42] <iceroot> mbeierl: #ubuntu+1
[16:42] <blod> wise_crypt: so ofc make all wont do either
[16:42] <Pici> mbeierl: 10.04 is not released, merely the release candidate, please use #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[16:42] <wise_crypt> blod: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-17-generic
[16:43] <blod> wise_crypt: ?
[16:43] <dotnetted> iceroot: thanks for the info
[16:43] <wise_crypt> blod: your kernel 2.6
[16:43] <wise_crypt> blod: uname -a
[16:43] <blod> yes i know, but the readme isnt clear on what step after copying Makefile.6 to ./Makefile
[16:44] <wise_crypt> blod: read carefully mate
[16:44] <blod> i have!
[16:44] <blod> and step 4 which seems generic, wont work either wise_crypt
[16:45] <blod> CFLAGS was changed in "/home/xbmc/Skrivbord/dlink/wua1340_drivers_1040/Module/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. wise_crypt
[16:45] <blod> that's where it halts wise_crypt
[16:45] <Onix> hi
[16:50] <FriedrichMan> hello
[16:50] <bwood> How can I see the exact version of ruby offered in the repositories?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/ruby just says 1.8.x
[16:50] <aeon-ltd> hallo
[16:50] <FriedrichMan> i got some problems with finding something in my system
[16:50] <aar> Is it possible to get a screenshot via ssh? When I run ksnapshot under a ssh -Y connection I get an image of the client, not the server.
[16:50] <wise_crypt> blod: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_(Ralink_rt73_driver)
[16:51] <genii> FriedrichMan: A better description of the problem may be more helpful
[16:51] <FriedrichMan> I try to find the logs of mozilla so I am doing this: find /home/user/.mozilla -name site_i_browsed
[16:51] <FriedrichMan> but I get no output
[16:51] <blod> ok, i got a little bit further in my attempt to compile a driver for my DWL-G122 E1G usb dongle: http://pastebin.com/Z1Hyq4Pb
[16:52] <FriedrichMan> I tried with different words I know for sure are inside some of the files there.. and still didn't find anything
[16:52] <blod> ill check it out wise_crypt , thx in advance
[16:52] <wise_crypt> blod: no problem
[16:53] <FriedrichMan> well? any suggestions on how to find a particular word in some recursive directories?
[16:53] <FriedrichMan> inside files of course
[16:54] <sipior> FriedrichMan: try grep, with the "-r" switch.
[16:54] <FriedrichMan> sipior I'll try
[16:54] <mac_linux> Hello folks, so I have a powerbook G4, 1.33 GHz.  I've had problem in my prevous install.  It would heat up and shutdown during updates.  I reinstalled OSX fine, so no hardware issues.  On the LiveCD, I did notice at one point python was taking up 97% of the mac's resourses for a few seconds at a time.  Is that normal?
[16:55] <blod> wise_crypt: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist doesnt seem to exist under 9.04 as described in that link?
[16:56] <FriedrichMan> sipior: I don't know whether I will find more words with that word or not, ej: I am looking for youtube.com but might find http://www.youtube.com/vsdjklvailvbujlwhatever
[16:56] <FriedrichMan> do I need another switch?
[16:57] <sipior> FriedrichMan: yes, the "-v" switch will allow you to filter out unwanted results.
[16:57] <wise_crypt> blod: how about this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=757607
[16:57] <wise_crypt> blod: download http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=66425&d=1208612609
[16:58] <FriedrichMan> sipior: but I would have to use it like this grep -v list_of_things_idontwantgreptooutput -r youtube.com  ?
[16:58] <blod> i'll check that too wise_crypt , thx for the info you've provided so far
[16:58] <sipior> FriedrichMan: try "grep -r youtube.com <directory> | grep -v list_of_things..."
[16:58] <FriedrichMan> ok... thanks a lot
[16:59] <wise_crypt> blod: no problem
[17:01] <FriedrichMan> sipior: thanks, that did the trick
[17:02] <sipior> FriedrichMan: no trouble
[17:02] <wise_crypt> blod: keep me informed
[17:04] <dyllan> Does somebody know how I can remove the "Change Desktop Background" when a user right-clicks on the desktop in Gnome?
[17:04] <imi> hi
[17:05] <imi> http://www.alfa.com.tw/in/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=AWUS036NEH&Category=105463 -- is this device supported out of the box by ubuntu?
[17:07] <blaque> olá
[17:07] <Oer> ini alfa had got a document abount installing AWUS036NEH , nice work ftp://webftp:Alfauser@61.221.104.182/Ubuntu%209.0%20Install%20Process.pdf
[17:07] <dotnetted> lol just my luck - Ive got 10mb free space left on my wubi installation and now I'm getting "POWER CALIBRATION AREA ERROR" from brasero every time I try to burn the livecd .. is there no possible way to resize an ntfs partition from within a wubi install?
[17:07] <Gimpexe> its my birthday!!!!
[17:07] <blaque> algém pode me ajudar?
[17:07] <Gimpexe> today, just 5 minutes ago
[17:07] <Gimpexe> =D
[17:07] <dotnetted> happy birthday!
[17:07] <Gimpexe> : ) thank you
[17:07] <IdleOne> !pt | blaque
[17:08] <blaque> eu só quero saber como funciona o ctrl L no Gnumeric
[17:08] <geekphreak> blaque: spanish?
[17:09] <dotnetted> I'm right in thinking that I can boot into XP and resize the ntfs partition from within windows without affecting the wubi installation right?
[17:09] <geekphreak> !es | blaque
[17:09] <gmatt> i want to edit my grub, what items come up when i start my computer.  what do i nano?
[17:09] <geekphreak> hi bilalakhtar  sir
[17:09] <Onix> hi
[17:09] <DeadmanIncJS> hi
[17:09] <blaque> QUE DOR
[17:09] <bilalakhtar> geekphreak: Who are you? Why are you saying this?
[17:10] <Oer> imi i read not out of the box, but easy to install
[17:10] <geekphreak> bilalakhtar: lol just saying hello relax man
[17:10] <geekphreak> nevermind
[17:11] <blaque> NÃO É TÃO LIVRE ASSIM NÉ
[17:11] <fardad> anyone here can help me at reinstalling grub?
[17:12] <Losha> !pt | Blaize
[17:12] <mac_linux> Is it possible to get wireless working on the Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD?
[17:12] <aeon-ltd> fardad: have you heard of supergrubdisk? it almost automates restoring grub
[17:12] <Losha> Blaize: Sigh. Meant that for blaque...
[17:12] <aeon-ltd> mac_linux: depends on the card
[17:13] <fardad> aeon-ltd: no,
[17:13] <mac_linux> My card would be the AirPort Extreme.
[17:13] <costre> Losha, Too many people in here :)
[17:13] <fardad> aeon-ltd: what is it?
[17:13] <aeon-ltd> fardad: if you have a free cd or usb stick i'd reccommnd it
[17:13] <Losha> costre: nah, just too quick with the autocompletion tab....
[17:13] <aeon-ltd> fardad: its a easy installer for grub over the mbr
[17:13] <imi> Oer: thanks
[17:14] <fardad> aeon-ltd: how should I get that
[17:14] <aeon-ltd> fardad: just google it :)
[17:14] <Oer> imi Ubuntu !
[17:14] <geekphreak> hi oer
[17:14] <imi> ubuntu rocks ;)
[17:14] <_pg_> anyway to make pidgin contact list "hide on screen edges" like in adium for osx?
[17:14] <Oer> yo geekphreak !
[17:14] <fardad> aeon-ltd: isn't there any other way around this
[17:15] <geekphreak> _pg_:  not that i know off mate
[17:15] <aeon-ltd> fardad: yeah there are guides for using a ubuntu live cd
[17:15] <_pg_> geekphreak: I feel like that shouldnt be hard. and it is so useful
[17:15] <fcukmylife> i download window border theme from http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity ,i know icon theme is installed in .icon path, but i don't know where to install it?
[17:16] <fcukmylife> ~/.icons
[17:16] <Gremnon> fcukmylife, I believe it's ~/.themes for metacity themes, I could be wrong
[17:16] <fardad> aeon-ltd: I tried some of those guids
[17:17] <mac_linux> Can you get the AirPort Extreme wireless card to work on Upbuntu 9.10 LiveCD?
[17:17]  * wise_crypt scratched head
[17:17] <geekphreak> _pg_: i guess :)
[17:17] <_pg_> mac_linux: yeah. plug into ethernet and run all updates and look for hardware drivers to get
[17:17] <wise_crypt> !spelling
[17:18] <Artopal> Hi all! Someone using freetalk for jabber?
[17:18] <mac_linux> ic, ok.  Hopefully that will allow me to troubleshoot what is going on when I do a full install.  Is it recommended that you do an install when connected to the internet?
[17:18] <geekphreak> wise_crypt: what happened, why scratching head?
[17:18] <fcukmylife> Gremnon: thanks,seems you are right
[17:18] <fardad> mac_linux: you can make it work in live CD, if you can make it work in a complete install
[17:19] <mac_linux> When I did a full install, something was going on in which it would just shut down.  I tried the livecd yesterday and it didn't do that.  However, I didn't have the wirelss card going or firefox.
[17:20] <geekphreak> adios people time to go :)
[17:20] <hdon> CAN ANYone recommend an application for viewing VERY LARGE images? i have used ZGRViewer but i don't want to deal with Java right now
[17:20] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: need a good shampoo but hey that off topic lol
[17:20] <Guest88931> Does anyone know how to turn off the "the media contains digital photos -- open fspot" prompt in nautilus?
[17:20] <geekphreak> wise_crypt: heh
[17:21] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: :P
[17:21] <geekphreak> :p
[17:21] <geekphreak> anyways i am off,
[17:21] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: bye
[17:22] <tashan83> can any tell me how..python can be minimised..as when i minimised it it's window is closed
[17:22] <tashan83> ?
[17:22] <tashan83> ya
[17:22] <Artopal> hdon, the light ones are good: viewnior, mirage, gpicview... even qiv.
[17:22] <wise_crypt> tashan83: /j #python
[17:22] <tashan83> hey tell me yar
[17:24] <hdon> Artopal, i am rather looking for something that is made for viewing very large images. like, on the order of trillions of pixels
[17:25] <TDCO> alguien habla español?
[17:25] <wise_crypt> !es | TDCO
[17:25] <TDCO> thanks
[17:25] <hybrid_mind> I'm having problems with an FTDI usb-serial device.  just recently, the device has been causing my system to freeze after being on for exactly 15 minutes, every time that the device is plugged in
[17:25] <wise_crypt> TDCO: no problem
[17:27] <Cucciolo> Ciao :)
[17:27] <Cucciolo> !list
[17:32] <Artopal> hdon, they all view them the same, I think...
[17:34] <Shafiei> i got a problem with my packages!
[17:35] <Shafiei> i installed sun-java6-jdk, but the simbol links does not appear in usr/lib
[17:35] <mcl0vin> howdy folks
[17:35] <edward__> Hello
[17:35] <edward__> Does anyone here use NetBeans?
[17:36] <Shafiei> i have a problem wih java package!!
[17:36] <Shafiei> i cannot install it
[17:36] <Moonshadow> Hi
[17:36] <okokokok> how do i check where I have java installed on ubuntu?
[17:36] <edward__> !help
[17:36] <erUSUL> !java | okokokok
[17:37] <edward__> Does anyone here use NetBeans?
[17:37] <Moonshadow> Does anyone know any voiceprint software?
[17:37] <mcl0vin> i don't know where should i ask this question, when i open an excel sheet with openoffice i shows as blank , but if i click on a cell i can see the formula in the formula bar, can someone help me please
[17:38] <Moonshadow> mcl0vin: maybe the font is white?
[17:38] <edward__> Does nobody here use NetBeans?
[17:40] <mcl0vin> Moonshadow: let me figure this out, this is the first time ever i use it
[17:40] <wise_crypt> edward__: off topic but just ask what is wrong may be somebody would help
[17:40] <Moonshadow> no problem
[17:40] <edward__> Okay, the problem is that I try to open NetBeans via GUI - Nothing happens. I got to terminal and run it and get a Java error...
[17:40] <edward__> No idea why...
[17:40] <edward__> I've tried reinstalling it.
[17:41] <okokokok> do u have java installed?
[17:41] <svenbuntu> hey
[17:41] <edward__> Yes.
[17:41] <edward__> Of course I have Java installed, I am a developer.
[17:41] <edward__> It wouldn't install otherwise either.
[17:42] <edward__> And It wouldn't give me Java errors if it wasn't installed.
[17:42] <svenbuntu> so does anyone know how to change the buffer in ubuntu
[17:43] <BusMaster> i get this annoying click/beep sounds from my speaker whenever I click on buttons and so on with my mouse. How do I stop it?
[17:43] <wise_crypt> edward__: /j  #netbeans
[17:43] <edward__> I am there Wise.
[17:44] <edward__> Thanks though :)
[17:45] <mcl0vin> Moonshadow: can you assist me please
[17:45] <mcl0vin> nasr al sudany
[17:45] <Moonshadow> I don't know, you could ask a question
[17:46] <mcl0vin> ok
[17:46] <edward__> Does anyone here use NetBeans?
[17:46] <IdleOne> edward__: ask your next question
[17:46] <edward__> I get a Java error in terminal when trying to load NetBeans from terminal, when trying to load from GUI nothing happens.
[17:47] <Losha> edward__: and the exact text of the message?
[17:47] <jc_> hi
[17:47] <mcl0vin> when i open an excel file created with M$ office, when i open it in open office the whole screen look white
[17:47] <mcl0vin> i don't see the grids
[17:47] <IdleOne> edward__: perhaps #java can help with the error
[17:47] <mcl0vin> edward__: i did use netbeans , but didn't like it
[17:47] <edward__> Full error: http://pastebin.com/VwRFNKEY
[17:48] <Moonshadow> xls or xlsx mcl0vin?
[17:48] <edward__> Channel is invite only (#java)
[17:48] <Moonshadow> as far as I know, xlsx support is really new
[17:48] <IdleOne> !register > edward__
[17:48] <edward__> I don't want to register with this name :(
[17:48] <IdleOne> you need to be registered to join
[17:48] <IdleOne> so change name
[17:49] <edward__> How?
[17:49] <edward__> I haven't used IRC in a while.
[17:49] <IdleOne> edward__: /nick new_nick  <<< replace new_nick
[17:49] <Losha> edward__: I see lots of google hits on that error message. Do none of them solve the problem? http://javacio.us/search?q=org%2Fopenide%2Futil%2FLookupListener+more%3Ajar_files&inline=true talks about a missing netbeans jarfile...
[17:49] <mcl0vin> is there is an Open Office channel in IRC
[17:49] <Moonshadow> I'm checking for one
[17:49] <Moonshadow> I've never used it
[17:49] <mcl0vin> ;)
[17:50] <edward__> Alright ty.
[17:50] <Guest88931> Does anyone know how to turn off the "the media contains digital photos -- open fspot" prompt in nautilus?
[17:50] <Moonshadow> Its #Openoffice.org
[17:51] <mcl0vin> Moonshadow:how did you search for it please
[17:51] <Moonshadow> I googled FreeNode OpenOffice
[17:51] <Moonshadow> the first answer, in the description
[17:51] <xXedixXx> !changepass
[17:51] <LzrdKing> my right screen keeps blanking after like 10 seconds
[17:51] <mark--asdfadfjkh> anyone here know how to use asp?
[17:51] <xXedixXx> Damn
[17:52] <Moonshadow> Guest88931: Try System > Preferences > Preferred Applications
[17:52] <IdleOne> xXedixXx: do nickserv and chanserv commands in a different tab. i.e. not a channel tab
[17:52] <IdleOne> xXedixXx: will save you from yourself in the long run
[17:53] <xXedixXx> Danke.
[17:53] <Guest88931> Moonshadow: I don't see an option for photos there.
[17:53] <navi_> Who can say how to easy make update from ubuntu beta to RC ?
[17:54] <IdleOne> navi_: sudo apt-get safe-upgrade Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[17:54] <LzrdKing> will this channel morph into lucid support next week?
[17:54] <hal> I have a laptop where the dvdrom does not work, so I have copied the ubuntu install disk to an ext3 partition and set the boot attribute on the partition
[17:55] <hal> sorry, I meant that I have copied the install disk to a HDD partition on another PC and then installed it to the laptop
[17:55] <hal> however the partition will not boot
[17:55] <Moonshadow> Guest 88931: Oh... They mustve changed that, I'm sure there used to be
[17:55] <hal> can anyone suggest why this may be?
[17:55] <Myrtti> LzrdKing: yes
[17:55] <Moonshadow> Lemme look around a bit
[17:56] <LzrdKing> and where will karmic support be? #ubuntu-1?
[17:56] <nukelacity> hey :) erm.. i was here the other day for help.. i reinstalled ubuntu and now i have another problem.. my RaLink rt2500 chipset wireless card wont work.. the lights on the card are on, so it is plugged in.. but it wont pick up any networks :/
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> LzrdKing:  it will be here also.
[17:56] <Myrtti> LzrdKing: here
[17:57] <Myrtti> LzrdKing: this is the support channel for all supported versions of Ubuntu ;-)
[17:57] <nukelacity> can anyone help me get that working? xD
[17:57] <IdleOne> LzrdKing: supporting 5 release at once :)
[17:58] <xXedixXx> Still no luck fixing bloody NetBeans...
[17:58] <LzrdKing> IdleOne: i have an issue with Gutsy, can you help? :D
[17:58] <Moonshadow> !help
[17:58] <IdleOne> LzrdKing: ask and someone if not me will try
[17:59] <VirusTB> OK
[17:59] <VirusTB> RAID and Ubuntu with Dual boot posible?
[17:59] <VirusTB> I wann make it a dual boot,  I got 2 SATA 1TB HDD's, and one 250GB PATA/IDE ... i want to use the 250 as the OS (ubuntu and win 7) ... and the "2TB" as RAID.. but i want both ubuntu and windows to see the 2TB as ONE drive ( i thin its RAID 0)
[17:59] <dotnetted> with [1000GB hard drive/8GB physical memory] can anyone suggest a good partition setup for a server (http/svn/asterisk/sql/dns) and development (c++/java/[large sdks]) ?
[17:59] <nukelacity> can anybody help me to fix a RaLink rt2500 wireless card?
[17:59] <padhu> LzrdKing:  this channel itself
[17:59] <IdleOne> LzrdKing: you got me :P
[17:59] <LzrdKing> IdleOne: i was just joking, asking about the oldest one still supported, from 3 years ago
[17:59] <iYorkie[Netbook]> Hello, I require a bit of help. Basicly, the system keeps halting for "The system is going down for HALT, now!". I checked cron.d, only sendmail and php5 and logs don't show anything so I am wondering if anyone has any ideas?
[17:59] <iYorkie[Netbook]> it keeps halting around every hour
[18:00] <Moonshadow> Guest88931 - Try opening Places, Computer
[18:00] <Moonshadow> then Edit, Preferences, MEdia
[18:01] <padhu> VirusTB: RAID 1 or RAID 5?
[18:01] <nukelacity> can someone please help with my wifi problem? i need to get it fixed soon :/
[18:01] <iYorkie[Netbook]> so, no one ha sany ideas?
[18:01] <Moonshadow> nukelacity - what is your wifiproblem, drivers?
[18:01] <iYorkie[Netbook]> has any *
[18:01] <BedMan> nukelacity: have you read the howto docs on wifi cards?
[18:01] <jeward> Hi, any tips on getting a Mac Pro to boot 10.04?  It gets so far and then just hangs.
[18:01] <hal> ok, let me try again...  I have a hard drive in a laptop with an ext3 partition to which I have copied the ubuntu install disk. The partition has the boot attr set.  When I boot, the following error is returned "Error Loading Operating System"
[18:01] <Guest88931> Moonshadow: Ok, but what now?
[18:01] <hal> would someone mind helping me to solve this, please?
[18:01] <Myrtti> !lucid | jeward
[18:01] <Moonshadow> Well
[18:02] <nukelacity> im using a RaLink rt2500 and it says i have the drivers loaded but its not picking up any wifi networks.. open or protected
[18:02] <Naru> Are their no updates for Ubuntu 10.04 since Yesterday? My Ubuntu don't show my updates...
[18:02] <Moonshadow> Theres an option for photo disks
[18:02] <jeward> Myrtti: So no?
[18:02] <IdleOne> Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion. Naru
[18:02] <Naru> k
[18:02] <Myrtti> jeward: not on this channel
[18:02] <BedMan> iYorkie[Netbook]: look in messages (/var/log/messages) and check where else syslog may be putting things
[18:02] <VirusTB> padhu,  RAID 1 i believe..... (where i combine both 1TB drives, and my system see's it as ONE 2TB harddrive)
[18:02] <nukelacity> if it helps im not on the problemed machine at the moment im on my laptop so you can see that my internet is actually working
[18:03] <hal> note that my dvdrom does not work, so it's not an option to boot from the ubuntu cd
[18:03] <iYorkie[Netbook]> BedMan: messages shows signal 15 and syslog says...
[18:03] <hal> please - any suggestions would be really welcome
[18:03] <xangua> hal: you can try boot from a usb with ubuntu
[18:03] <BedMan> VirusTB: if your raid is done in hardware, the OS will not care which OS is using the drive (if your dirvers work) but you have to use a supported filesystem type on both OS's...
[18:03] <iYorkie[Netbook]>  named[12013]: exiting
[18:03] <iYorkie[Netbook]>  exiting on signal 15
[18:04] <xplinux> i can not install vuze 4.3 in ylmfos 9.10
[18:04] <hal> xangua: the laptop won't recognise usb removable drives on boot
[18:04] <BedMan> iYorkie[Netbook]: that's standard shutdown procedure... look further up for potential causes of the shutdown
[18:04] <padhu> VirusTB: you should LVM to do this
[18:04] <Moonshadow> hal, how did you get ubuntu on it in the first place?
[18:04] <wise_crypt> edward__: so how is it go ?
[18:05] <VirusTB> padhu, whats LWM? :S
[18:05] <BedMan> VirusTB: raid 1 = mirroring, raid 0 = striping (your 2tb example)
[18:05] <nukelacity> ubuntu 10.04 (i know its not yet supported but it was working until i reinstalled) and now the RaLink rt2500 wont pick up any wifi networks but ubuntu is showing that the drivers are loaded
[18:05] <iYorkie[Netbook]> BedMab, what type of things?
[18:05] <xangua> nukelacity: #ubuntu+1 fot lucid
[18:05] <hal> Moonshadow: I copied the ubuntu cd using cp -R /media/cdrom/* /mnt/mydisk on another ubuntu PC connected via usb
[18:06] <VirusTB> BedMan,  i think it might be beter if I just use ubuntu as a VM... since i am still a beginer to it...... or does Win 7 run well as a VM on Ubuntu'
[18:06] <padhu> VirusTB: LVM
[18:06] <nukelacity> xangua? sorry i dont understand xD
[18:06] <xangua> !lucid > nukelacity
[18:06] <nukelacity> ubottu how? im using the terminal based IRC lol
[18:07] <BedMan> VirusTB: I haven't done it either way.. I only have XP as a VM Client on win7 at home.  I use a unix box for unix :-)
[18:07] <Guest88931> Moonshadow: I just have a list of all the disks.
[18:07] <kian_> which software works as MMB in linux?
[18:07] <xangua> kian_: MMB ¿¿
[18:07] <Jordan_U> hal: You can use a utility like unetbootin to create a bootable partition, or if you don't want to have to reformat, install grub and use it to boot from an iso file.
[18:08] <kian_> which software works as MMB ( multy media builder )in linux?
[18:08] <iYorkie[Netbook]> I don't see anything BedMan
[18:08] <blue112> Hi here
[18:08] <xplinux> I can not install vuze 4.3 in distro ylmfos ubuntu 9.10
[18:08] <chimp-champ> How can I find out with a shell command which kind of RAM I have in my PC?
[18:08] <blue112> I have a problem : I don't understand why my computer is so slow... It's so laggy that my music "jumps" :/
[18:09] <BedMan> iYorkie[Netbook]: :( there are utilities to see what's going on on your system - such as lsof and ps, but they are more challenging to use
[18:09] <iYorkie[Netbook]> 100421 17:06:27 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Normal shutdown
[18:09] <iYorkie[Netbook]> I see that before it stopped
[18:09] <iYorkie[Netbook]> and
[18:09] <BedMan> it would be before that too
[18:09] <LzrdKing> are DPMS calls logged in Xorg.log?  I can't get to my logs right now but my one monitor keeps shutting off and i'm wondering if its due to DPMS
[18:09] <iYorkie[Netbook]> received control channel command 'stop -p'
[18:09] <wise_crypt> edward__: no problem :)
[18:10] <switch10_> blue112: cat /etc/proc/meminfo will tell you how much ram etc..  open the case up if you want to know what brand...
[18:10] <BedMan> iYorkie[Netbook]: those are normal shutdown messages still
[18:10] <Jordan_U> blue112: 10.04, when it's released, should use real time priority for audio which should help with music jumping. But I assume there are other problems as well.
[18:10] <hal> Jordan_U: thank you - just installing unetbootin now  :)
[18:10] <Hajmola> having problems on my network. Can't ping my router, but I can connect through it to the internet.
[18:10] <Jordan_U> hal: You're welcome.
[18:10] <switch10_> blue thats /proc/meminfo
[18:10] <kian_> which software works as MMB ( mmb multimedia builder)in linux?
[18:10] <genii> Hajmola: Perhaps it's set not to respond to ICMP
[18:11] <blue112> switch10_, I don't think it's memory related problem, it's not swapping.
[18:11] <iYorkie[Netbook]> ntpd[27675]: step-systime: Operation not permitted
[18:11] <blue112> Jordan_U, yep, there is other problems, flash is really slow on almost every navigators too.
[18:11] <LzrdKing> Hajmola: most routers are set up to block pings (from the WAN anyway)
[18:11] <Bearman> hi, I have recently installed UNR 9.10. It seems like my "Files and folder" does not update, i really would like to have a shortcut to  my Dropbox folder, since its only there I store personal files. How can I change what folders that show under the "files and folder" tab?
[18:12] <Hajmola> LzrdKing: I can't connect to it. It's actually at my place of work. We have two routers of the same model. One responds to pings the other doesn't
[18:12] <xplinux> i need a pack debian vuze 4.3 for ylmfo.s.  for ubuntu 9.10
[18:12] <Hajmola> LzrdKing: I mean, I can connect and it gives me an IP address, but I can connect to it to adjust settings
[18:12] <kian_> which software works as MMB ( mmb multimedia builder)in linux?
[18:12] <chimp-champ> How can I find out with a shell command which kind of RAM I have in my PC?
[18:13] <RegressLess> Can someone help me set up my wireless connection? There's a possibility that my wireless card is switched off, but I don't know how to check.
[18:13] <xangua> xplinux: use the getdeb repository
[18:13] <BedMan> Hajmola: you may need to use the old stnadby "serial cable"...
[18:13] <xangua> http://www.getdeb.net/
[18:13] <switch10_> chimp-champ: cat /proc/meminfo will tell you all info.
[18:13] <guntbert> !repeat | kian_
[18:13] <genii> chimp-champ: sudo lshw -C memory | more                    also
[18:13] <Oer> chimp-champ, sudo lshw gives all the hardware info
[18:13] <Hajmola> BedMan: There's no serial ports on the router, it's a pretty new consumer netgear
[18:13] <Hajmola> maybe not new.
[18:14] <xplinux> xangua in the repositories only is vuze 4.2 and dont work
[18:14] <chimp-champ> switch1=: No, not the kind of the ram
[18:14] <Jordan_U> blue112: Flash on linux in general doesn't have great performance. Though extreme lag in flash may be indicative of non-accelerated graphics (i.e. GPU driver issues). Do you see high CPU load?
[18:14] <xangua> (12:13:15) xangua: xplinux: use the getdeb repository (12:13:18) xangua: http://www.getdeb.net/
[18:14] <kian_> Ok forgive me
[18:14] <hal> Jordan_U: unetbootin only works with iso files, doesn't it?  Do you know how I can create an iso from the ubuntu DVD?
[18:14] <BedMan> Hajmola: you may need to visit the netgear website to see what you can do with it- full reset often clears any configuration boo-boos
[18:14] <blue112> Jordan_U, cpu load is from 0.5 to 3.0, when the computer really lags.
[18:15] <BedMan> Hajmola: or "return to factory settings"
[18:15] <Hajmola> BedMan, yeah I was hoping it wouldn't get to that
[18:15] <carlos> huy
[18:15] <carlos> buenas
[18:15] <Jordan_U> blue112: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[18:15] <carlos> alguien que hable español
[18:15] <blue112> Jordan_U, 9.10
[18:15] <genii> !es
[18:15] <BedMan> Hajmola: agreed, that's last ditch
[18:15] <IdleOne> SPAIN
[18:15] <Hajmola> BedMan: LzrdKing, genii, thanks for your help
[18:15] <xplinux> xangua my firefox can not download or install from your link
[18:15] <Jordan_U> blue112: What GPU?
[18:15] <IdleOne> errr
[18:15] <LinuxGuy2009> Is the new buntu font in the repos to use?
[18:16] <xangua> xplinux: READ the instructions of how to install/add the repository
[18:16] <blue112> Jordan_U, it's an nvidia GeForce 8800 GT
[18:16] <RegressLess> hal: you could just download the iso
[18:16] <devkhadka> my /var/www folder is own by www-data  and my user A is member of www-data group but A cannot see the contents of www-data the permission of /var/www  is set to 771 what is the problem
[18:16] <devkhadka> if i set the permission to 777 only then it works
[18:16] <xplinux> doesnt know the
[18:16] <hal> RegressLess: that goes without saying!  ;-)  I'd rather do it now than wait an hour for the download
[18:17] <xplinux> my firefox unknow the app protocol
[18:17] <chimp-champ> Oer:  genii: Thanks for help. Thats it.
[18:17] <BedMan> devkhadka: try 775, and make sure the group ownership is proper
[18:17] <xangua> xplinux: http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[18:17] <dotnetted> Ive got a Wubi Ubuntu install on an XP host - I need to resize the partition win/ubuntu both share to create another one to move ubuntu onto - if I resize the windows partition from within windows will it screw up the wubi ubuntu install?
[18:17] <RegressLess> hal: maybe you could go for a walk or take a bath. lol, I'm not being helpful
[18:17] <xplinux> for install fron this page
[18:17] <genii> chimp-champ: You're welcome
[18:17] <jiffe1> there a way of getting federated tables to work in mysql through the server installed via apt-get ?
[18:17] <devkhadka> BedMan, i used id A  and i can see A is member of www-data
[18:18] <hal> thanks for your input RegressLess .  I am going to try with Brasero
[18:18] <blue112> Jordan_U, is that normal that banshee uses 18% of my CPU, and pulseaudio 8% ?
[18:18] <LzrdKing> !banshee
[18:18] <blue112> LzrdKing, then ?
[18:18] <devkhadka> BedMan, the owner of /var/www is www-data and group is alos www-data
[18:18] <LinuxGuy2009> LzrdKing: that was helpful.
[18:18] <LzrdKing> blue112: probably not too bad
[18:19] <blue112> LzrdKing, it just make my whole computer lags.
[18:19] <devkhadka> BedMan, doesnot that  mean A shuld have all permission to /var/www read write ex
[18:19] <blue112> And my music jump =)
[18:19] <RegressLess> Can someone help me set up my wireless? It's Ubuntu 9.04 and my wireless card may be switched off, but I don't know how to check.
[18:19] <LzrdKing> blue112: what else is running?
[18:20] <LinuxGuy2009> RegressLess: sudo lshw -C lan
[18:20] <blue112> LzrdKing, chrome, a paused virtualbox, jabber, xchat.
[18:20] <blue112> That's everything, it should run fine :/
[18:20] <BedMan> devkhadka: if A has a different primary group, then not exactly...
[18:20] <BedMan> devkhadka: brb..
[18:20] <LzrdKing> blue, whats you memory situation like? (free -m)
[18:20] <xplinux> xangua i have installed your link but dont work with firefox
[18:21] <LzrdKing> blue112: ^
[18:21] <om26er> is there a way to hide ubuntu logo in the application menu (top panel)
[18:21] <antivirtel> !info
[18:21] <adelcampo> ha anyone tried going from Wubi 10.04 to a dedicated partition?
[18:21] <blue112> LzrdKing, not swapping, 57mio free.
[18:21] <LzrdKing> blue112: i have a feeling you might be swapping due to the open VM
[18:21] <LzrdKing> ohh
[18:21] <blue112> Hum...
[18:21] <blue112> actually it's weird
[18:21] <xangua> xplinux: you installed it¿¿ noe install vuze from the repositories; you will see there is a new version aviable
[18:21] <blue112> I says :
[18:21] <LzrdKing> adelcampo: yeah, i just reinstalled :P
[18:21] <blue112> Swap:            0          0          0
[18:21] <FloodBot3> blue112: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <blue112> Sorry FloodBot3 :D
[18:22] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: OK, it spit up a bunch of stuff. What am I looking for?
[18:22] <adelcampo> LzrdKing: did it improve anything?
[18:22] <blue112> It sounds like I don't have swap, LzrdKing
[18:22] <LinuxGuy2009> RegressLess: make and model
[18:22] <vincent_> when is lucid releases
[18:22] <LinuxGuy2009> april 29
[18:22] <CaptainTrek> !lucid
[18:22] <xplinux> xangua where is the link for install pack debian vuze 4.3?
[18:23] <vincent_> #bibos
[18:23] <xangua> xplinux: in your repositories
[18:23] <LzrdKing> adelcampo: for one computer, i didn;t notice any difference, but for the other, well i made too many changes to know how much differnece the wubi-to-native change made, but that machine is much happier now
[18:23] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: it's the atheros ar9285
[18:23] <devkhadka> i have setup redmine correctly it works fine  when run localhost:3000 but i cannot access it from outside  what can be wrong with me
[18:23] <xplinux> in the repositories ubuntu only is the version vuze 4.2 and dont work
[18:24] <xangua> xplinux: did you installed the getdeb package¿¿
[18:24] <Tripplehelix> I'm guessing I have the RC of 10.04 but still see kernal erorrs :)
[18:24] <vincent_> \/join #bibos
[18:24] <Tripplehelix> *el
[18:24] <DavidJHeinrich1> hi all
[18:24] <LinuxGuy2009> RegressLess: system administration hardware drivers list any drivers for wireless?
[18:24] <xplinux> yes i have it
[18:24] <blue112> hi DavidJHeinrich1
[18:24] <xangua> xplinux: then open synaptic, reload the repositories and you will see the new vuze version aviable
[18:24] <BedMan> devkhadka: do you have a firewall set up? look into ufw man pages
[18:25] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: there's nothing listed
[18:25] <blue112> Well, I should try to reboot now.
[18:25] <LzrdKing> adelcampo: wubi->ext4, gnome->bare openbox, samba shares->nfs shares, and it went from 100% cpu playing SD video in boxee and HD not being playtable at all to <20% cpu playing some 720p (cartoons, mainly) and <80% on others
[18:25] <xplinux> but firefox dont know the app protocol for istall the pack from this page debian
[18:25] <devkhadka> BedMan, ok i ll see
[18:25] <BedMan> blue112: good luck with that :)
[18:25] <blue112> BedMan, thanks :D
[18:25] <xangua> xplinux: open SYNAPTIC, nos firefox
[18:25] <xangua> not*
[18:26] <LzrdKing> blue112: why do you need to reboot?
[18:26] <LzrdKing> too late
[18:26] <devkhadka> BedMan, sorry ufw is inactive
[18:26] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: this is what I get for buying a fancy computer
[18:26] <DavidJHeinrich1> do you guys know what stuff in Ubuntu uses the GPU? (aside from compiz). Does Blender or Inkscape use it for rendering? I'm trying to figure out if I will suffer any performance losses going to an HTPC GPU. (I don't do gaming, but do do blender & inkscape work, & photo-editing of 1 giga-pixel files scanned from 4x5's). I also watch downloaded 1080p movies. And I will at some point be outputting to 2048x1536 CRT, 2650x1600
[18:27] <Exposure367> evening everybody
[18:27] <BedMan> devkhadka: check to see if it's listening on your other interfaces with netstat -an | grep 3000
[18:27] <xplinux> xangua now work , now i have the last version of vuze thans you
[18:27] <adelcampo> LzardKing that sounds considerable
[18:28] <LinuxGuy2009> RegressLess: that machine have a switch to turn wireless off/on? or in bios? made sure its on?
[18:28] <urthmover> network startup order:  Is it possible for me to specify the order in which my network interfaces come up during boot?
[18:28] <xplinux> but i can not download  files from page debian
[18:28] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: never heard of an htpc gpu.
[18:29] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: the X11 drivers are what implements the things a GPU can do, and all that stuff would be impacted by a change in graphics hardware.
[18:29] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: Yes, I mentioned that it may be off, but I don't know how to check or turn it on. In windows, it's been glitchy and is always off when I boot up.
[18:29] <Craiggles> so, do you guys think 10.04 will be available next week? :)
[18:29] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: there are gpu's and then there are gpu's
[18:29] <erUSUL> DavidJHeinrich1: only thing i know of is video display acceleration with cuda ( vdpau )
[18:29] <DavidJHeinrich1> LinuxGuy2009: HTPC GPU = HD5450 or 4650. Right now, I'm on 4670 with fan...I guess that's close.
[18:29] <IdleOne> Craiggles: Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:29] <LzrdKing> yeah, where in the startup scripts are network interfaces brought up?  i'd like my wireless brought up then instead of a kludgy rc.local script
[18:29] <BedMan> !lynx
[18:29] <BedMan> !lusty
[18:29] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: is that a radeon or something?
[18:30] <mrec> hi, is there any way to record DVDs faster than growisofs seems to autodetect? I have 4x DVD+RWs here but with growisofs the maximum speed is 0.1x
[18:30] <IdleOne> BedMan: stop please
[18:30]  * BedMan forgot the name...
[18:30] <DavidJHeinrich1> LinuxGuy2009: yes, radeon, I like to stick with radeons b/c they'll be supported OSS by radeonhd in future
[18:30] <Pici> !lucid > BedMan
[18:30] <BedMan> that's it
[18:30] <BedMan> sorry
[18:31] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: video dvd? data dvd? be specific
[18:31] <mrec> LinuxGuy2009: data dvd (actually just an iso with ubuntu lucid)
[18:31] <wise_crypt> edward__: what people at #netbeans say about it ?
[18:31] <Losha> mrec: have you tried the -speed=4 switch to growisofs ?
[18:31] <mrec> Losha: ya didn't help
[18:31] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: brasero, k3b, buy nero linux 4 like i did?
[18:32] <DavidJHeinrich1> so what about the consequences of going to a 3-display setup? Will that slow things down on modern GPUs? Right now, I'm with 4670 on a 2048x1536 CRT. If I add 2 outputs (2560x1600 & 1900x1080), will that slow things down substantially?
[18:32] <Losha> mrec: LinuxGuy2009: I don't trust brasero, but I'd like to know what k3b says about your available burn speeds...
[18:32] <mrec> LinuxGuy2009: I'd buy nero if I'd burn cds much more often .. but I only burn cds 1-2times a half year maybe
[18:32] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: whats a 3 desktop setup? 3 monitors you mean?
[18:33] <mrec> I'm checking with k3b now
[18:33] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: for normal graphics operations (eg. not gaming) it shouldn't be a big impact
[18:33] <DavidJHeinrich1> LinuxGuy2009: yea, 3 monitors...1 @ 1900x1080, 1 @ 2048x1536, 1 @ 2560x1600
[18:33] <t3chkommie> anyone have expereince with hypervisors?!
[18:33] <Losha> mrec: can you tell us the model number of your burner?
[18:33] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: nice :-)
[18:33] <h00k> !anyone | t3chkommie
[18:33] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: i never had any luck or trust with any free linux burner app so i spent the $20 for nero. love it.
[18:33] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: well, no point in wasting TVs on just TV
[18:34] <RegressLess> how do I toggle wireless off and on?
[18:34] <mrec> LinuxGuy2009: growisofs works reliable but is damn slow
[18:34] <mrec> it works better with higher quality dvds
[18:34] <t3chkommie> !hypervisor
[18:34] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: then dont use it.
[18:34] <mrec> Supported writing speeds:2.4x (3324 KB/s)
[18:34] <mrec> 4.0x (5540 KB/s)
[18:34] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: Although I'm astounded by how fantastic 1080p looks on this 2048x1536 Sony GDM-F520 CRT. Ppl tell me tech has improved so much that LCDs will look better than even the best ever CRT, but I'm not so sure
[18:34] <mrec> Losha: how? :)
[18:35] <padhu> chimp-champ: dmidecode will give you a part number - you hould be able to google that part number for more information
[18:35] <t3chkommie> im trying to get a Hypervisor on my lappy... need some adivce.
[18:35] <Losha> mrec: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sr0
[18:35] <LzrdKing> DavidJHeinrich1: i watched my first 720p show a few days ago and i was amazed at how clearer it looked (from up close anyway, form further back, not so much)
[18:35] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: they do, and you can pick up a 54" LCD, but the 42" CRT is a back-breaker
[18:35] <LinuxGuy2009> crt are ancient
[18:35] <LzrdKing> BedMan: 21" CRTs are damn heavy!
[18:36] <mrec> Losha: ok will take a while now it's recording using k3b
[18:36] <BedMan> LzrdKing: nod - I have an old 22" NEC that I can't seem to part with...
[18:36] <LinuxGuy2009> ha 36" sony crt is really heavy
[18:36] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: well, maybe they look better than avg CRTs...but my 21" CRT seems to be really impressive imo. Seems to match up with best LCDs for black levels
[18:36] <Losha> mrec: no problem. Speed any better with k3b?
[18:36] <mrec> preformating dvd+rw now .. I'll see
[18:36] <Shammah> test
[18:36] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:36] <mrec> now I hope that preformating won't take an hour
[18:36] <Losha> mrec: ok...
[18:36] <LinuxGuy2009> crt all have bad fuzz
[18:36] <Shammah> Hmmm, i can chat here?
[18:36] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: those 3 monitors would take the total resolution outputted to 9.3 megapixels. Is that gonna screw up the GPU? (I know the IBM T221's had problems being driven b/c they were 9mp LCDs, but that had partlyto do with only accepting single-link DVI
[18:37] <Losha> Shammah: only if it's technical & ubuntu related. Social chat is on #ubuntu-offtopic...
[18:37] <LzrdKing> DavidJHeinrich1: regular LCDs have black issues because of the backlighting; OLED will fix that
[18:37] <Shammah> Losha, just testing, as I can't chat in #c++
[18:37] <Shammah> heh
[18:37] <DavidJHeinrich1> LzrdKing: oh yea, I'm sure OLED will...for much much more $ ;-)
[18:37] <Pici> Shammah: You need to register and identify to talk there
[18:38] <Pici> !register > Shammah
[18:38] <Shammah> I am registered
[18:38] <LinuxGuy2009> yeah led fixed the white issues. but black aint quite black.
[18:38] <DavidJHeinrich1> anyways, will 9.3 megapixels be too much for GPUs to handle?
[18:38] <devkhadka> BedMan,  tcp        0      0 *:3000                  *:*                     LISTEN      13083/ruby
[18:38] <Pici> Shammah: Check your email to finish your registration
[18:38] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: I'm driving 2 23" monitors with a ATI 4870 at home, and gaming with them.  No issues at all running 2 monitors, but it doesn't have another connector for a 3rd
[18:38] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: you mean 9mp photos?
[18:38] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: yea, the GPUs I'm looking at have 1x D-SUB, 1x DVI, 1x HDMI :-)
[18:38] <Shammah> Oh, thanks Pici
[18:38] <Shammah> Sorry for going off-topic here btw
[18:39] <mrec> erasing failed ... not really impressive
[18:39] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: if it's got the connectors, it shouldn't have a problem driving the hardware...
[18:39] <XonX> I can't add volume control to the notification area in lycid. Tried to find gnome-volume-control-applet, but there seems to be no such pakage in the repo
[18:39] <DavidJHeinrich1> LinuxGuy2009: no, between those 3 separate monitors I listed, the total resolution comes to 9.3 megapixels...2048x1536 + 2560x1600 + 1900x1080 = 9.3 megapixels
[18:39] <Pici> XonX : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:39] <XonX> Pici: Oh... Ok
[18:39] <BedMan> devkhadka: well... sounds like it's open, next step is verifying your access to it
[18:39] <DavidJHeinrich1> what's the formula for how much memory a certain megapixel image requires? megapixels * 24 bits per pixel, right?
[18:39] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: total resolution dont mean squat. You can hook up as many monitors as you want.
[18:40] <NucWin> can anyone point me in the direction of the crontab error log it doesnt appear to be running a job i have created
[18:40] <mrec> Losha: same crappy speed with k3b
[18:41] <BedMan> NucWin: find the cron logfile... it should tell you why, and what is hapening with cron
[18:41] <DavidJHeinrich1> does anyone know how to get the pretty red version of the ATI HD5450? http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=455&Itemid=72
[18:41] <mrec> recording dvds still doesn't seem to work well with linux in year 2010 ...
[18:41] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: you must have an old burner?
[18:41] <Pici> !ot | DavidJHeinrich1
[18:41] <NucWin> yeh thats what i have been trying todo but not sure where it is
[18:41] <mrec> LinuxGuy2009: quite new one
[18:41] <NucWin> had a look through all the logs in /var/log
[18:41] <mrec> it's a notebook, Asus UL80V
[18:41] <mrec> manufactured in 10/2009
[18:41] <DavidJHeinrich1> LinuxGuy2009: thank for ur help
[18:42] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: Nero Linux 4 is the way to go! You can download the trial and use that if you want.
[18:42] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: thanks for ur thoughts :-)
[18:42] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: yw :-)
[18:42] <IPNixon> hey, if anyone could help me with this i'd appreciate it.  is there a way to make a shell script always run as an executable and not have ubuntu ask if i want to open it in gedit?
[18:42] <RegressLess> How do you turn wireless on in the terminal?
[18:42] <mrec> LinuxGuy2009: it's already recording at 0.1 speed now .. burning 700 mb ubuntu iso takes 1 hour now
[18:42] <h00k> mrec: there are lots of other alternatives than having to purchase nero
[18:42] <Losha> mrec: I don't use rw much, but I've burned literally hundreds of dvd-r's without failures. Of course I'm fussy about burners/media...
[18:42] <mrec> just the same speed as back then in good old 1999
[18:42] <mrec> Losha: DVD-Rs are okay
[18:42] <mrec> but RWs seem to be a mess
[18:42] <nightfrog> mrec: brasero has always been dependable
[18:42] <BedMan> IPNixon: make sure the execute bit is turned on on the script
[18:43] <IPNixon> i'm pretty sure it is, i can double check
[18:43] <h00k> mrec: if you're having problems, feel free to report bugs about it
[18:43] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: Umm no not even close. I burn DVDs at 16x with nero
[18:43] <IPNixon> that's in the file properties, right BedMan?
[18:43] <Oer> LinuxGuy2009, k3b beats nero commercial crap
[18:43] <LinuxGuy2009> ha
[18:43] <Pici> NucWin: What does the line in your crontab say and when do you expect it to run?
[18:43] <BedMan> IPNixon: chmod +x <script name> from the shell
[18:43] <mrec> Oer: I doubt so nero has alot extra features
[18:43] <NucWin> */1 *	* * * www-data "/var/www/default/share/share.pl --clean" >/dev/null 2>&1
[18:43] <Jordan_U> IPNixon: You can create a launcher that runs the shell script.
[18:44] <NucWin> ive tried with and without " "
[18:44] <Losha> mrec: I find dvd-Rs give best compatibility with old dvd players, and I only use verbatim and/or Taiyo Yuden. I've tested my oldest burns (5 years or so) and they are still readable with low error rates...
[18:44] <LinuxGuy2009> last time I tried k3b and brasero neither was reliable for verifying burns
[18:44] <IPNixon> BedMan, I already did that when I made the script
[18:44] <idlemind> hello. i'm running ubuntu 8.04 lts. i've managed to compile the latest kernel released and added support for my video card along with a lot of the other devices. xorg is not detecting the new driver. is this a time when i will need to write a custom xorg.conf or should i look at installing a more recent xorg to better catch the auto detect of my new driver?
[18:44] <IPNixon> Jordan_U, i'll give that a shot.  thanks!
[18:44] <Pici> NucWin: When do you expect that to run?
[18:44] <Jordan_U> LinuxGuy2009: How so?
[18:44] <mrec> Losha: ya I just want to record and test the latest ubuntu nothing else actually
[18:44] <Oer> best tip: burn slowly cd 8x dvd 4x
[18:44] <NucWin> every minute
[18:44] <Jordan_U> IPNixon: You're welcome.
[18:44] <devkhadka> BedMan, how do i verify it can you plz tell me
[18:44] <LinuxGuy2009> idlemind: 10.04 will be the new LTS in 7 days.
[18:45] <Losha> LinuxGuy2009: k3b has a tendency to hang during verification. Brasero was so buggy I won't use it at all. I like cdrecord and growisofs...
[18:45] <nightfrog> idlemind: wait for the new LTS
[18:45] <idlemind> linuxguy2009: that it will be. until then i have such limitations =)
[18:45] <RegressLess> hello? it's like no one can see me. Surely out of the 1600 people in here, someone knows how to enable wireless in ubuntu
[18:45] <LinuxGuy2009> Jordan_U: right and I bought nero cause it works.
[18:45] <h00k> RegressLess: have you seen the !wireless factoid?
[18:45] <BedMan> devkhadka: try telnet from another host to port 3000... if you get "connection refused" then something is blocking you
[18:46] <sidharth> Hi
[18:46] <h00k> ubottu: wireless | RegressLess
[18:46] <Oer> ifup ifdown
[18:46] <Jordan_U> idlemind: Installing your own Xorg will negate a lot of the reliability that I assume is your reason for choosing 8.04 LTS
[18:46] <pyrophelia> what can cause a partition not to show up?  when I run fdisk the parition is listed in the table, but it doens't show up under /dev
[18:47] <idlemind> jordan_u: agreed =) hence i'm looking at the xorg.conf i guess to force it to use my new intel driver
[18:47] <NucWin> is it right to use " " for the command in crontab if im using switches?
[18:47] <Jordan_U> LinuxGuy2009: In what way is it unreliable at verifying sucessfull burn?
[18:47] <LinuxGuy2009> idlemind: RC for 10.04 might fix you up?
[18:47]  * crucialhoax Hates division of polynomials :(
[18:47] <sidharth> is there a dual layer burn utility for ubuntu
[18:47] <BedMan> NucWin: no, that's not right - because then it will lump them all as one command
[18:47] <idlemind> jordan_u: the 1st boot after the kernel compiled it came up all well. after that it hasn't auto detected properly and defaults to a stretched 1024x768
[18:47] <h00k> sidharth: sure, see Brasero
[18:47] <LinuxGuy2009> Jordan_U: error messages and not able to complete a verification or always failing no matter what.
[18:48] <NucWin> DOH think ive found why it wasnt even trying to run
[18:48] <cynicismic> does anyone if if gb jaunty mirrors are down?
[18:48] <LzrdKing> RegressLess: iwconfig wlan0 essid <your essid>; dhclient wlan0
[18:48] <h00k> LinuxGuy2009: have you reported these bugs?
[18:48] <NucWin> no \n
[18:48] <IPNixon> Jordan_U, that just opened the sh in gedit
[18:48] <Pici> NucWin: Firstly, you dont need the /1, just * will suffice.  Also, I'm not sure if its recreated in your crontab, but I see a weird character between the hour and dom field.  Additionally, make sure that you have a newline at the end of your crontab, sometimes that can mess thigns up.
[18:48] <idlemind> linuxguy2009: at this time i'm still going to have to compile a new kernel on 10.04 to get the wireless going unless it gets backported
[18:48] <Jordan_U> LinuxGuy2009: Even with a lower speed burn?
[18:48] <LinuxGuy2009> no i gave up on burning with free linux tools
[18:48] <RegressLess> h00k: I just thought it would be an easy question.
[18:48] <h00k> RegressLess: it depends on your wireless card
[18:48] <gunther44> hi, why is the openoffice in the repos about 2 years old?
[18:49] <RegressLess> LzrdKing: I don't know what my essid is
[18:49] <Jordan_U> IPNixon: How did you create the launcher?
[18:49] <NucWin> ok /1 was because it was /10 but speeded it up for testing, funny char is TAB so its ok
[18:49] <IPNixon> right clicked on the desktop and clicked new launcher
[18:49] <NucWin> problem turned out to be no new line at the end
[18:49] <NucWin> thanks for help though :)
[18:49] <Jordan_U> idlemind: What card?
[18:49] <h00k> gunther44: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[18:49] <TomG> LinuxGuy2009: Sorry to interrupt, but my drive never wrote to CDs or DVDs correctly until I switched to Linux :/
[18:49] <LinuxGuy2009> idlemind: Your card is completely unsupported by the kernel?
[18:49] <gunther44> h00k: 8 i think
[18:49] <LzrdKing> RegressLess: its the name of the network, whatever you'd click on in a graphical client
[18:50] <h00k> gunther44: 8.04, 8.10?
[18:50] <gunther44> .10
[18:50] <gunther44> h00k: ^^
[18:50] <Jordan_U> idlemind: Even if you do need a new kernel there is much less likelyhood of user space / kernel mismatch problems with 10.04.
[18:50] <gunther44> h00k, i should still be able to manually update right?
[18:50] <LinuxGuy2009> Just so everyone is clear I am NOT here for help with burning. Nero works better than the free stuff so thats why I bought it. Get over it.
[18:50] <xangua> gunther44: then update or install the more recent version
[18:50] <gunther44> h00k: can i do that via apt?
[18:51] <idlemind> linuxguy2009: it doesn't work in 8.04 or beta 10.04 lts by default. upon compiling 2.6.33.2 it works =)
[18:51] <devkhadka> BedMan, i can connect to port 8080 but not 3000 how do i provide access on that port
[18:52] <lukasz> SIEMA
[18:52] <Pici> !pl | lukasz
[18:52] <h00k> gunther44: You might want to consider upgrading your version of Ubuntu, Intrepid does have an older version in it's repo
[18:52] <LinuxGuy2009> idlemind: lot less headache to just buy a supported peice of hardware.
[18:53] <idlemind> linuxguy2009: sadly i don't get to choose in this case lol
[18:53] <rob__320> when resizing or restore minimized windows in the 10.4 beta 2 (using gnome), it takes about 1 second before it starts that action. it has to do something with compiz, cause when i completely deactivate it, it resizes/restores the windows immediately. I already tried deactivating every single effect in ccsm, but that didnt help. any suggestions?
[18:53] <LinuxGuy2009> idlemind: If its not yours then let the owner worry about it.
[18:53] <cynicismic> actually... they're not - that'll serve me right for pushing out an update nsswitch domain-wide
[18:53] <RegressLess> LzrdKing: so should it look like this? iwconfig wlan0 essid 2WIRE430: dhclient wlan0
[18:53] <guntbert> !lucid | rob__320
[18:53] <h00k> rob__320: head over to #ubuntu+1 for Lucid discussion
[18:54] <soreau> rob__320: Which graphics driver are you using?
[18:54] <soreau> rob__320: Or #compiz
[18:54] <LzrdKing> RegressLess: change the : to a ; or better, a &&
[18:54] <idlemind> linuxguy2009: it's mine, well the company's mine type of thing. meaning they bought it for me 2 use =)
[18:55] <BedMan> 11:18 < blue112> LzrdKing, then ?
[18:55] <azlon> if i have 9 HDDs connected to my machine, how can i tell which one is which? is there any way to get the serial number or anything from the cli?
[18:55] <RegressLess> LzrdKing: yes, I did use a ;      I just typed it wrong here. It told me a bunch of stuff, including Operation not permitted.
[18:56] <Jordan_U> azlon: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
[18:56] <makah> hi, can somebody help me with bash script: I need to search for string 'foo', if there is foo then it should backup this file and this file extension must be filename.old and after that I replace 'foo' to 'bar' in orginal file. I hope you got the point. Thank you in advance :)
[18:56] <gmonnie> trying to burn a dvd with Brasero, but everytime it says i dont have the right package to do it, does anyone know what i need to download to do it
[18:56] <BedMan> !firewall | devkhadka
[18:56] <Pici> makah: Bash scripting help is best sought in #bash
[18:56] <h00k> makah: #bash is probably a better place to ask :)
[18:56] <LzrdKing> RegressLess: sudo before each command (iwconfig and dhclient)
[18:56] <TomG> azlon: drives are named by letters in the alphabet.  sda would be the first drive, sdb the second and so on
[18:57] <azlon> Jordan_U: that just gives me: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 33 2010-04-22 20:52 /dev/sdc1
[18:57] <LinuxGuy2009> gmonnie: video dvd?
[18:57] <gmonnie> yeah
[18:57] <LinuxGuy2009> gmonnie: make sure all recomends and suggests are installed for brasero maybe?
[18:57] <TomG> azlon: Once you figure out which drive it which, you can use e2label, or other commands for other filesystems to label your drives and partitions
[18:57] <BedMan> devkhadka: that's most likely the only things stopping you, unless your application uses tcp wrappers
[18:57] <gmonnie> where do i find those
[18:58] <Jordan_U> azlon: Are you sure you typed the command correctly?
[18:58] <LinuxGuy2009> gmonnie: synaptic or aptitude
[18:58] <azlon> TomG: i understand... i have sda through sdi... but i just added another drive and i need to format it. the problem is that i dont know where it was added. with other drives it adds it as /dev/sdc but i need to verify this is correct
[18:58] <BedMan> makah: I'd use perl for that, it's better with pattern matching
[18:58] <devkhadka> BedMan, ok i ll see it
[18:58] <crucialhoax> azlon: It would be the furtherest letter down the alphabet I believe. Double check that tho.
[18:58] <LinuxGuy2009> azlon: gparted
[18:58] <TomG> azlon: the command "blkid" will probably help.  If it's not formatted you will know from that command.
[18:59] <azlon> LinuxGuy2009: gparted doesnt tell me which drive is which... it just lists them
[18:59] <munsking> does anyone here use gambas2 ?
[18:59] <RegressLess> LzrdKing: that's no good--it says no such device.
[18:59] <LinuxGuy2009> azlon: is it an empty drive?
[18:59] <azlon> Jordan_U: ryan@server:~$ ls -l /dev/sdc1
[18:59] <h00k> !anyone | munsking
[18:59] <pyrophelia> is it possible to manipulate irqs?
[18:59] <Jordan_U> azlon: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
[18:59] <h00k> pyrophelia: you can in your bios, although generally you shouldn't need to
[18:59] <LzrdKing> RegressLess:type just iwconfig and see which interfaces support wireless
[18:59] <sipior> azlon: if you want the drive serial number, install the "smartmontools" package, and have a look through the "smartctl" man page. your drives almost certainly support it.
[19:00] <Jordan_U> azlon: That's a literal command, type it in character for character
[19:00] <azlon> LinuxGuy2009: i dont know, i got it from a friend. the problem is that i am trying to back up something from my fake-raid, but the drive he gave me is from an old fake-raid of his... so they all have the same identifiers...
[19:00] <munsking> oke then xD, can i change the layout of gambas? as in, put the toolbox on the left side so that i can have that maxed and a maxed properties box?
[19:00] <azlon> Jordan_U: awesome! thanks!
[19:00] <pyrophelia> h00k, well I have 2 raid backplanes on the same irq (pci-e) and I believe I'm suffereing from irq conflicts because of it.  each backplane supports 10 disks.  20 disks on the same irq can't be good
[19:00] <Jordan_U> azlon: You're welcome.
[19:00] <LinuxGuy2009> azlon: You can use the methods listed above to get the UUIDs for all drives and get the UUID for the new one.
[19:01] <RegressLess> LzrdKing: lo     no wireless extensions.     pan0      no wireless extensions
[19:01] <MrKeuner> hello, Karmic installation on my laptop does not suspend when the laptop is inactive for some minutes. How can I debug the problem?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[19:01] <MrKeuner> it suspends fine when I tell it to
[19:01] <h00k> pyrophelia: I'm not as intimately familiar with IRQ's as I was, perhaps check ##hardware
[19:03] <pyrophelia> ty
[19:06] <helo> what do i need to install so that i can play back encrypted dvds?
[19:06] <helo> (lucid)
[19:08] <helo> oh, got it: sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Kaiforce: check the grub config. If the windows stuff is in the scripts then a simple: sudo update-grub ,will suffice
[19:09] <crucialhoax> RegressLess: Make sure the switch is on, sometimes it is an Fn+F[X] key, if it is on, then do a `sudo modprobe ath9k`
[19:09] <gunther44> qq: will an nvidia gt 230m have any probs with k/ubuntu?
[19:09] <SeaPhor> ActionParsnip, are you referring to the /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[19:10]  * wise_crypt is watching lyrid meteor shower so beautiful 
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Gunther44: should be fine with the 195 driver. I suggest adding the vpau ppa too
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Seaphor: that file is generated so editing it is futile
[19:10] <bappy2> I tried running aptitude, and it tells me that my locale LANGUAGE and LC_ALL is unset. is this normal? should I set it? I'm on Jaunty
[19:10] <crucialhoax> SeaPhor: You dont want to edit that file. You want to edit /etc/default/grub
[19:10] <cheche> Hi, just one question that I have not been able to find on the forums. Is the  window control switch be permanent for next version?. i thought that it was a beta test
[19:11] <gunther44> ActionParsnip: i haven't got it yet, when i install, will it sort itself out, or will i have to dl extra?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> If I drop, my battery died
[19:11] <SeaPhor> ahhh, good to know ActionParsnip and crucialhoax
[19:11] <Pici> cheche : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[19:11] <MrSmiley909> Hello. I have the latest nvidia drivers (195.36.15) installed but every time I login, my resolution changes to 1280x1024. When gdm starts it seems to be at 1920x1200 though.
[19:11] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Ok lol
[19:11] <crucialhoax> SeaPhor: :)
[19:11] <cheche> Pici: thanks, sorry for the noise
[19:11] <vlar> hi i'm wondering why 3D applications don't launch the user interface it quits all the time, any idea?
[19:11] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: it's software
[19:11] <MrSmiley909> Here is my xorg.conf file: http://pastie.org/930132
[19:11] <munsking> im sorry to ask again, but does anyone know if it is possible to change the layout of gambas2?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Gunther44: it will need manually adding, the nouveau driver will do you until you do
[19:11] <munsking> if not, where would be a good place to ask
[19:12] <gustave_me> #ubuntuone
[19:12] <ange> hi
[19:12] <vlar> is there some drivers to set up for a radeon 9200 ?
[19:12] <RegressLess> crucialhoax: the hotkey doesn't work
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Mrsmiley909: run: sudo nvidia-xconfig then reboot, log in and run: gksudo nvidia-settings ,set the res then click "save to x config file"
[19:13] <crucialhoax> RegressLess: So the wireless is stuck off?
[19:13] <gunther44> thanks ActionParsnip, where do i dl the drivers? from nvidia themselves?
[19:13] <RegressLess> crucialhoax: your guess is a good as mine
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Vlar: the open driver will support it afaik
[19:13] <crucialhoax> 2 over 4 in fractions is .5 right? just checking lol
[19:13] <crucialhoax> RegressLess: `ifconfig -a`
[19:13] <vlar> ActionParsnip afaik?
[19:13] <crucialhoax> vlar: as far as i know
[19:13] <ange> can a Ubuntu Server Cloud ed provide amazon S3 services ?
[19:14] <lorenz> how do i check what version (alpha-beta-rc) is on my computer?
[19:14] <Pici> ange: Best to ask in #ubuntu-server
[19:14] <padhu> cd will not mount automatically and when i try to mount in GUi mode, it through error message
[19:14] <shellmaster555_> hi, how can i make a bootable pd with MHDD?? i trying: dd if=MHDD.iso of=/dev/sdb, but that isn't work. HELP
[19:14] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip clip & zoom options?
[19:15] <RegressLess> crucialhoax: OK, that spit out some jibberish
[19:16] <gunther44> guess ActionParsnip's battery has died? :)
[19:16] <ange> Pici: thanks
[19:16] <vlar> crucialhoax tx
[19:16] <vlar> ActionParsnip i was thinking that but obviously i've trouble to launch 3D app why that ?
[19:17] <jad> hello, how do i open filestypes other than 1 (exectuable command)
[19:17] <sanidhya> I get this error when I login to ubuntu :"ubuntu is running in low graphics mode"
[19:18] <Commie_Cary> I am getting the following error when using apt-get
[19:18] <Commie_Cary> E: The package libproc-processtable-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it!
[19:18] <davek> #php
[19:18] <isolat3dsh33p> sanidhya, what hardware?
[19:18] <jad> for example I searched for apropos -a apt conf and found a command called apt.conf (5)
[19:18] <vlar> Commie_Cary is your ubuntu is a fresh install?
[19:18] <isolat3dsh33p> sanidhya, what's your graphic card?
[19:19] <Lenin_CAt> vlar, fresh? no.
[19:19] <Lenin_CAt> Its been installed for 3 years
[19:19] <Pici> jad: Can you rephrase your question?
[19:19] <RegressLess> ActionParsnip: what I found tells me to install things, but I have no internet without wireless
[19:19] <wise_crypt> Commie_Cary: use ubuntu.pastebin.com
[19:19] <vlar> Lenin_CAt so u'll know better than me ;)
[19:19] <Lenin_CAt> wise_crypt, its a one-liner
[19:19] <Lenin_CAt> vlar, what?
[19:20] <Pici> jad: Are you asking how to open manpages for a specific manpage section?
[19:20] <vlar> Lenin_CAt you're an expert with 3years running ubuntu
[19:20] <jad> Pici, i want to find a way to configure apt, i found the command apt.conf but its not of typeset 1 (executable command), how can i use it hen
[19:20] <Lenin_Cat> no im not a expert
[19:20] <jad> *then
[19:20] <Lenin_Cat> I just use it
[19:20] <costre> Reinstalling is king
[19:21] <llutz> jad: man -k apt.conf
[19:21] <Lenin_Cat> costre, I have bad memory, so it would fail
[19:21] <jad> burger is king
[19:21] <llutz> jad: "man man"
[19:21] <Pici> jad: apropos is for searching manpages.  'apt.conf' is in section 5, which is the section for files.  You cannot execute apt.conf.
[19:21] <Pici> jad: What are you trying to change in your apt configuration?
[19:21] <costre> Lenin_Cat, You get over the losses
[19:21] <Lenin_Cat> costre, what?
[19:22] <Lenin_Cat> I have bad memory
[19:22] <Lenin_Cat> the installation would fail
[19:22] <MrSmiley909> I am still having problems with my resolution. I configured my xorg.conf correctly and when gdm starts, the resolution looks like 1920x1200 (my screens default) but when I login, the screen blanks and the resolution changes to 1280x1024.
[19:22] <npope> ubottu: beta?
[19:22] <jad> software sources, i can do it with the ubuntu tool, i just wanna do it cli
[19:22] <brohism> What repo for karmic do I need to add to install icecast2?
[19:22] <jad> Pici,
[19:22] <Pici> jad: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:22] <npope> ubottu: beta!
[19:22] <costre> Lenin_Cat, If you lose something you feel was important, you get over it eventually
[19:22] <jad> thx
[19:22] <Lenin_Cat> OMG
[19:22] <Lenin_Cat> get this through your head
[19:22] <Pici> npope: What are you looking for?
[19:22] <Lenin_Cat> I have BAD MEMORY
[19:22] <costre> Lenin_Cat, Do a thorough search through the system
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> it would fail
[19:23] <costre> :D
[19:23] <jad> but how do i run non-1 typesets
[19:23] <npope> Pici: channel to talk about beta ubuntu
[19:23] <Pici> npope: #ubuntu+1
[19:23] <npope> Pici: thank you sir
[19:23] <jad> or how can i see their help or man or smnth
[19:23] <npope> Pici++
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> costre, do you know what bad memory means
[19:23] <jad> thx Pici
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> it means my ram is DAMAGED
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> if I install
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> reinstall
[19:23] <Pici> Lenin_Cat: Please calm down.
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> it would fail with a read/write error
[19:23] <webmasteroli> hi
[19:23] <KaiForce> &*(^(%$ Ubuntu boned me
[19:23] <Sliderman> hi, can someone tell me a command for checking what network card do i use?
[19:23] <mishpish> join #joomla
[19:23] <costre> Lenin_Cat, Oh .. I thought .. you know what I thought
[19:23] <webmasteroli> ive tired asking this question in ubuntu-server but no one has responded.
[19:23] <mishpish> ha, sorry
[19:24] <webmasteroli> ive installed ebox on my domain however it seems the login system hasnt installed correctly.
[19:24] <webmasteroli> ive followed the WIKIs instructions and ive tried everything possible.
[19:24] <brohism> What repo for karmic do I need to add to install icecast2?
[19:24] <wise_crypt> Sliderman: try hwinfo
[19:25] <Pici> brohism: Its in universe
[19:25] <crucialhoax> Sliderman: lshw -C Network
[19:25] <Lenin_Cat> so dose anyone know how to fix it?
[19:25] <crucialhoax> Lenin_Cat: Replace the RAM.
[19:25] <Lenin_Cat> im not talking about my bad memory
[19:25] <Lenin_Cat> im talking about my apt-get error
[19:25] <Pici> Lenin_Cat: Can you restate your original question?
[19:25] <Lenin_Cat> memory has little to nothing to do with it
[19:26] <KaiForce> ActionParsnip:  there is no Windows entry in the grub.d.  Nor did it exist before.  I think the 30_os_prober script created it.  Apparently that function is broken with the last update I did
[19:26] <gelegrodan> can somebody help me with a broken raid + lvm ?
[19:26] <Lenin_Cat> E: The package libproc-processtable-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it! when I run apt-get
[19:26] <costre> gelegrodan, Try running palimpsest and see what it says
[19:26] <brohism> Pici: thanks
[19:26] <Sliderman> crucialhoax , tnx it worked
[19:26] <crucialhoax> Sliderman: No problem.
[19:27] <Pici> Lenin_Cat: Can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libproc-processtable-perl
[19:27] <crucialhoax> Lenin_Cat: `sudo apt-get install -f` or `sudo apt-get check`?
[19:27] <_pg_> im really stupid. where do i get tor executable. I installed vidalia from software center but it didnt come with tor for some reason
[19:28] <gelegrodan> costre: problem is i can read two partions of it, /boot and / but not the third one..with /home and /var ..
[19:28] <Lenin_Cat> http://pastebin.com/rGtpA7az
[19:28] <Lenin_Cat> Pici,
[19:28] <gelegrodan> costre: its a raid 1 lvm..
[19:28] <Lenin_Cat> crucialhoax, same error
[19:28] <Vitor>  
[19:29] <LzrdKing> are DPMS calls logged in Xorg.log?  I can't get to my logs right now but my one monitor keeps shutting off and i'm wondering (hoping!) if its due to DPMS
[19:29] <Lenin_Cat> Pici, did you get the pastebin?
[19:30] <ERINALDO> olaa
[19:30] <zongo_> Hey guys, I have an issue with my mouse cursor. It is very jumpy and goes way too fast. I have tried the option in the mouse pref but to no avail
[19:30] <ERINALDO> olaaaaaaaa
[19:30] <costre> gelegrodan, I'm no expert, I have a four-disk raid5-array that I have messed around with, disassembled, reassembled after fresh installation etc, using palimpsest .. ledsen :)
[19:30] <zongo_> I am using 9.10 and the mouse is a pc line mouse usb
[19:30] <CyberGabber>  /part
[19:30] <Pici> !br |  ERINALDO
[19:30] <Lenin_Cat> Pici?
[19:30] <ERINALDO> eyy
[19:30] <Pici> Lenin_Cat: What did you try to install before that error came up?.
[19:30] <gelegrodan> costre: no problem, i just solved it.. pjew.. alot of sites, configs, mysqls.. no backup :D
[19:31] <Lenin_Cat> Pici, cedega
[19:31] <zongo_> any other ideas much appreciated..
[19:33] <guilhermeblanco> hi guys... I have a notebook ASUS G1S and I'd like to buy a TV usb component to install on my 9.10. In my city I only found 2 available models (Encore ENUTV-2 and PixelView PV-A6600U1). Can you give me a hint on which one is supposed to work on my OS? I've only found Windows support around these devices.
[19:33] <Pici> Lenin_Cat: Try to remove/move both .bin files from /var/cache/apt/
[19:34] <Lenin_Cat> Pici, fixed it
[19:34] <Lenin_Cat> the gpg key for mediubuntu wasnt working
[19:34] <Lenin_Cat> no idea why that had to do with it
[19:34] <xangua> Lenin_Cat: is medibuntu still down¿
[19:35] <Lenin_Cat> I guess so
[19:35] <crucialhoax> xangua: No it is up no.
[19:35] <crucialhoax> I used it last night.
[19:35] <zongo_> it's up
[19:35] <zongo_> me too
[19:35] <xangua> o-)
[19:40] <Shambat> I'm running ubuntu server and I have a wifi adapter connected to it, which works fine, it seems to lose its connection after some time of idleing though ... is there some way to prevent this?
[19:40] <bsmith093> hi there can anyone tell me how to transfer the complete contents of a hardrive using win 96 on the computer and ubuntu on the reciever with just a serial cable
[19:40] <SpamapS> Shambat: maybe ping the default gateway every 30 seconds?
[19:41] <bsmith093> the long thing gray with a 25 pin thing at both ends
[19:41] <Shambat> SpamapS: yeah that could work
[19:41] <Losha> guilhermeblanco: the mythtv guys are the experts on which tv cards work with linux. Try #mythtv-users if you don't get an answer here....
[19:42] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip's clip & zoom options?
[19:43] <flaco> hi all... someone where is gthread-2.0 on karmic?? I got installed libglib-dev
[19:44] <vak> hi all
[19:45] <vak> what is the best file system to store a big number of 1-7 Kb files in a directory?
[19:46] <bsmith093> serial transfer from windows 95 to ubuntu anyone
[19:46] <bsmith093> any ideas
[19:46] <imbeowulf> Does anyone have experience with imapsync? I want to migrate e-mail from an imap-server(A) to gmail(B). It works, only I don't understand how to apply a label to the e-mails that came from A.
[19:46] <bsmith093> how to use a serial cable
[19:46] <xplinux> I have a HP Pavilion dv9000 and I have installed the operating system based in ylmfos 9.10, but the sound of the computer is turned on and off continuously with this system opeativo, this happens with ubuntu 9.10, with ubuntu 9.04 jaunty not happen
[19:47] <genii> bsmith093: You just need to copy data off or you want o make an image or so of the hd?
[19:47] <xplinux> based in ubuntu 9.10
[19:47] <lorenz> xplinux just wait for 10.4 :) and ask again then
[19:48] <bsmith093> genii: i have a serial cable( i think) and a very old laptop running windows 95 that i just bought i would like to get absolutely every single file off of it onto something more modern like the ubuntu box im typijng on right now how do i do that
[19:48] <LzrdKing> are DPMS calls logged in Xorg.log?  I can't get to my logs right now but my one monitor keeps shutting off and i'm wondering (hoping!) if its due to DPMS
[19:49] <LzrdKing> bsmith093: use ethernet
[19:49] <bsmith093> i cant it doeant hav an ethernet port its that old
[19:50] <genii> bsmith093: Install SLIP on each box, assign static IPs network them together with the serial cable
[19:50] <xplinux> lorenz ylmfos for ubuntu only is for ubuntu 9.10
[19:50] <Oer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[19:50] <genii> bsmith093: Although if 25 pins you may have there a printer cable
[19:50] <bsmith093> is slip for windows 95 too
[19:50] <genii> bsmith093: Yes
[19:50] <xplinux> and this version is closed
[19:51] <xangua> xplinux: this channel is only for ubuntu; not others based on ubuntu distros
[19:51] <slow-motion> hi
[19:51] <bsmith093> genii: can u point me to a walkthrough of how to domthis
[19:51] <genii> bsmith093: eg: http://sunsite.nus.sg/pub/nusslip/win95.html     shows how to install SLIP on 95 (the example there is for their systems but still useful)
[19:53] <xplinux> xangua ylmfos is a ubuntu 9.10 with skin of xp windows
[19:54] <Oer> xplinux maybe that skin is troubling the soundsystem. did you check the forum of ylmfos ?
[19:54] <xplinux> xagua http://www.dosbit.com/general/ylmfos-ubuntu-que-parece-windows-xp
[19:54] <xangua> xplinux: why not using the official ubuntu¿
[19:55] <Scunizi> Can someone look at my smb.conf file and perhaps tell me why the shared directories are not allowing 777 permissions even with unauthenticated guests? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/C06LEcD5
[19:55] <xplinux> because is a ubntu for users windows is the linux more easier
[19:55] <Pici> xplinux: We do not support ylmfos here.  Please use their support for help.
[19:55] <xplinux> easier
[19:56] <xangua> xplinux: no it's not if your native language is spanish and the lymfos is chinnese :S
[19:56] <guntbert> !nickspam > ceil420
[19:56] <heauxbag> i'm trying to connect to an active postgresql database from another machine. netstat lists the port (5432) as listening, and i set iptables to accept connections, but the connection keeps timing out from the other machine. anyone know what could be causing this?
[19:57] <xplinux> i think that ylmfos  hasnt support is a software chine
[19:57] <penthief> Where can I find the USB block devices? I have /dev/usbmon, but not /dev/usb[0-6]
[19:57] <xplinux> the support must be from ubuntu
[19:57] <Pici> xplinux: It is not Ubuntu, therefore we do not support it.  Period.
[19:57] <heauxbag> the postgresql log doesnt list any failed connections or any other activity, so im assuming ubuntu is blocking the connection
[19:58] <lorenz> xplinux: just go to ubuntu its worth the learning curve
[19:58] <SpamapS> heauxbag: iptables -L -n -v      do you see any REJECT or DROP's in there?
[19:58] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip's clip & zoom options?
[19:59] <penthief> I'm trying to mount a USB external drive from a recovery shell, but I cannot see the device -- where will it be?
[19:59] <heauxbag> SpamapS: no, i see no REJECT or DROP
[19:59] <cached_> Hey how do I change my command prompt to say something else in my terminal?
[20:00] <cached_> anyone here?
[20:00] <Pici> cached_: Modify $PS1 and/or $PS2
[20:00] <Losha> cached_: 1627 people are in this channel currently...
[20:00] <ZykoticK9> cached_, $PS1 can be found in ~/.bashrc typically
[20:01] <heauxbag> cached: edit the .bashrc in your home directory. add a line that says PS1='<yourstuffhere>'
[20:01] <pagore> hey, guzy, does someone know something about Shell-scripting? :)   I have 38 lines of shell, and i cant find my mistake :(
[20:01] <heauxbag> save it and then type in 'source ~/.bashrc
[20:01] <heauxbag> '
[20:01] <Pici> pagore: Ask in #bash
[20:01] <drmagoo> cached_: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html
[20:01] <Losha> penthief: run the dmesg command and see if it mentions your usb device and tells you the /dev name of it...
[20:01] <pagore> ah ok ty
[20:02] <KG43123> :|
[20:02] <heauxbag> here's what my netstat and iptables are telling be about my postgresql connections: http://dpaste.com/186621/
[20:02] <heauxbag> i still cant figure out why its not allowing incoming connections
[20:03] <heauxbag> is it only allowing localhost connection?
[20:03] <SpamapS> heauxbag: tcpdump -n -i eth0 port 5432 and host your.source.ip.address    do you see the SYN packet coming in? Do you see lots of stuff going both directions?
[20:03] <lorenz> does someone know how to get java (in browser) working?
[20:03] <Pici> heauxbag: Where are you trying to connect from?
[20:03] <penthief> heauxbag: nc -zvv postgres-server 5432
[20:03] <SpamapS> heauxbag: yeah looks like its listening on 127.0.0.1
[20:03] <SpamapS> though that would normally produce a quick "connection refused"
[20:04] <Pici> heauxbag: postgres is only listening on localhost, that means that only localhost can connect.  You need to modify your postgres config file to have it listen on 0.0.0.0
[20:04] <heauxbag> Pici: trying to connect from my machine
[20:04] <heauxbag> Pici: ok, ill change that. i assumed it would do what SpamapS said and just refuse the connection. it's been timing out.
[20:05] <biborn> hello
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> lorenz, if you are using Firefox simply install sun-java6-plugin
[20:05] <skorasaurus> !swap
[20:05] <lorenz> zykotick9: no im using google chrome
[20:05] <biborn> does anybody know how to run gedit in ubuntu using root??
[20:05] <heauxbag> sudo gedit?
[20:05] <xangua> lorenz: it should work
[20:06] <Pici> biborn: gksudo gedit
[20:06] <xangua> biborn: use gksu; not sudo ;)
[20:06] <arand> biborn: "gksudo gedit"
[20:06] <penthief> Losha: Thanks, it's in there. dmesg also says: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning...
[20:06] <skorasaurus> in the terminal.
[20:06] <drmagoo> I have 2 boxes on seperate dsl's, they have the same hardware. Both running ubuntu 9.10 only diffrence is that #2 is a fresh install. This rule gets accepted on both machines "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/24  -j MASQUERADE". But only works on machine #1 not on #2. Anyone got any ideas?
[20:06] <biborn> no.. imean not using admin or uyser..the real root
[20:06] <cached_> Well bash rc is huge and I can find the ps1 commands I want, how do I add the date and working directory?
[20:06] <skorasaurus> biborn, that is the real root.
[20:06] <lorenz> xangua: im using lucid... and installed java runtime
[20:06] <fooledbyprimes> test
[20:06] <ZykoticK9> lorenz, http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/java what i did on 64bit Lucid
[20:06] <fooledbyprimes> can anyone see me?  or do i have to register?
[20:07] <skorasaurus> fooledbyprimes, we can see you.
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> fooledbyprimes, we see you
[20:07] <skorasaurus> no reg is necessary.
[20:07] <penthief> fooledbyprimes: you have to register
[20:07] <fooledbyprimes> thanks.
[20:07] <lorenz> zykotick9: oh is it something like flash 64bit in 9.10? xD
[20:07] <wise_crypt> !sudo > biborn
[20:07] <biborn> ok ic..then,anybody know how to get connected to internet using my ZTE usb modem??
[20:07] <fooledbyprimes> i registered but lost my pwd.  what the heck is the command to REAUTH?
[20:07] <dean> Hi, is anyone willing to test my ssh server by trying to connect from the outside for me? It will only take two seconds of your time, message me! thank you
[20:07] <skorasaurus> I was wondering at what point should my swap start be used (at 40% of my ram being used ? or more ?)
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> lorenz, i just use ubuntu-restricted-extras on my 64 - but yes similar to flash64
[20:08] <cached_> I need to change my command prompt to display the date time and current directory, what is the terminal command?
[20:08] <ZykoticK9> lorenz, also if you are using lucid you really should be using the #ubuntu+1 channel for support ;)
[20:08] <lorenz> zykotick9: thanks for the link :)
[20:08] <lorenz> ok will do :)
[20:08] <skorasaurus> right now, about 80% of my ram is being used, according to free but none of my swap is being used.
[20:08] <wise_crypt> biborn: google first then ask
[20:09] <cached_> Yah your getting ass raped
[20:09] <penthief> Trying to mount drive from recovery shell: I have from dmesg "usb-storage: device found at 3" where is the device file I should mount?
[20:09] <fooledbyprimes> sorry to bug you all but anyone know how to get freenode to reset password?
[20:09] <cached_> these channel arent safe
[20:09] <BedMan> cached_: for bash (and sh, to a limited extent) modify the "PS1" environment variable
[20:09] <cached_> well no shit
[20:09] <ZykoticK9> !language | cached_
[20:09] <Bearman> Does anyone know how to edit the "files and folders" tab in UNR 9.10?
[20:09] <SeaPhor> fooledbyprimes, ask on #freenode
[20:10] <cached_> ps1="?"
[20:10] <dean> Hi, is anyone willing to test my server by trying to connect from the outside for me? It will only take two seconds of your time, message me! thank you
[20:10] <BedMan> cached_: export PS1=...
[20:10] <BedMan> cached_: case is important to unix
[20:10] <Losha> penthief: the 'settling' message is normal. Does it eventually produce a /dev/something name?
[20:12] <cached_> PS1="\d\t\W" I just want to add the path so i can just put pwd?
[20:12] <guntbert> !google | wise_crypt
[20:12] <fooledbyprimes> thanks SeaPhor
[20:12] <BedMan> skorasaurus: swap isn't used until physical ram is exhausted, except in preallocating OS's like solaris
[20:12] <Da5iD101> I'm seeing UDP network traffic to/from my desktop.  I see that it's coming from java, but how do I tell what program is using java?
[20:13] <penthief> Losha: Thanks! it was /dev/disk/by-label/LaCie . Got it mounted now... time to backup.
[20:13] <wise_crypt> guntbert: they better learn that way
[20:13] <BedMan> cached_: check on the bash man page (which is quite long)
[20:13] <Losha> penthief: excellent...
[20:13] <un1x01d> Da5iD101, lsof ?
[20:13] <guntbert> wise_crypt: please don't - this is a help channel
[20:13] <cached_> Does anyone know the command to add the path to the command prompt?
[20:14] <flaco> hi all... someone where is gthread-2.0 on karmic?? I got installed libglib-dev
[20:14] <cached_> !anyone | cached
[20:14] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip's clip & zoom options?
[20:15] <LzrdKing> wise_crypt: many times the asker has already been googling for a while before asking
[20:15] <cached_> Does anyone know the command to add the current working directory to the prompt?
[20:15] <LzrdKing> cached_: its in man bash
[20:15] <ZykoticK9> cached_, that's not really a good idea, for security reasons
[20:15] <cached_> This is for school
[20:15] <cached_> its ok
[20:16] <Da5iD101> un1x01d: I saw that all connections were port 59550 and used lsof to see that it was java.  lsof will tell me what app is using java for those connections?
[20:16] <cached_> Its the school fedora server so it doesnt matter
[20:16] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: He's talking about PS1, not PATH
[20:16] <cached_> yah ps1
[20:16] <BedMan> cached_: export PS1="${PWD}[\u@\h]\$ "
[20:16] <cached_> ty bedman
[20:16] <ZykoticK9> Jordan_U, ahhh ok - that's not bad.  cached_
[20:16] <bastid_raZor> cached_: PATH=$PATH:/path/to/be/added
[20:16] <BedMan> cached_: yw :-)
[20:16] <LzrdKing> ZykoticK9: how does security matter when you could type pwd at any time anyway?
[20:17] <penthief> Now I'm trying to find out what went wrong with my laptop. What does it mean when 'ls foo' lists 'foo' with a red background?
[20:17] <BedMan> cached_: but you really should read the bash man page
[20:17] <wise_crypt> LzrdKing: then it will be a smart question
[20:17] <bastid_raZor> LzrdKing: pwd is print working directory??
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> LzrdKing, my bad - though he wanted to add pwd to PATH
[20:17] <skorasaurus> BedMan: k, thanks. I looked through dmesg, and my kernel log to see if it was recently activated but nothing related to swap was in there and I froze to a near stop about 20 minutes ago, is there a place to detect whether my swap was used ?
[20:17] <LzrdKing> bastid_raZor: yes
[20:17] <esposj> Does anyone know how to change the local root password for a  box that does all other logins via AD?
[20:17] <LzrdKing> ZykoticK9: now THAT is a security concern
[20:17] <esposj> Get a passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[20:18] <esposj> pa.fio
[20:18] <esposj> oops
[20:18] <esposj>  when the passwd command is run for root.
[20:18] <wise_crypt> !networking
[20:18] <JoeSomebody> hello, in a business lan with windows boxes , a ubuntu should have (ideally) what virus protection?
[20:18] <BedMan> esposj: look at the man page for passwd - I believe there is a way to point it at the /etc/passwd file instead of what's in the nss_switch file
[20:19] <JoeSomebody> what works with ubuntu?
[20:19] <Jordan_U> !virus | JoeSomebody
[20:19] <Pici> JoeSomebody: clamav is often used.
[20:19] <JoeSomebody> thanks but I already know that
[20:19] <bastid_raZor> JoeSomebody: clamtk clamav is a good option
[20:19] <JoeSomebody> the bot thing i mean
[20:19] <coachj> trying to copy mp3s off my sansa to my music folder getting following error" -6: Not Supported" can someone shed some light on this?
[20:20] <un1x01d> Da5iD101, well, you can compare your finding with netstat, if that doesn't give you anything i would start probing headers or tcpdump on that port
[20:20] <JoeSomebody> looking for business protection, as in this box can scan the others
[20:20] <JoeSomebody> linux is better to scan the whole lan than a win box
[20:20] <cached_> Yah Ive been working on reading it somewhat, but there are a lot of pages I need to man still and I was in a bit of a rush, thanks for you help
[20:20] <JoeSomebody> question is what to use
[20:20] <Pici> JoeSomebody: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[20:20] <JoeSomebody> ok
[20:21] <JoeSomebody> thanks
[20:21] <xplinux> i think than the distro ylmfos based in ubuntu 9.10  made in chine dont have support and their support must be the ubuntu service
[20:22] <Da5iD101> un1x01d: Thanks.  I looked further into it with lsof and saw that it was freenet.. I don't even remember installing that.  Now I'm looking at how to remove it.
[20:22] <ceil420> guntbert: gtfo my nick change. i've changed my nick to something and back once on this network in like a year+, and it was several minutes before i changed it back
[20:22] <esposj> BedMan: I don't see anything (and didn't before I came here :) )
[20:22] <ceil420> guntbert: you don't tell everyone else to idle 24/7 so they don't spam join/part/quit messages, do you?
[20:22] <JoeSomebody> i am helping these guys, they are willing to buy av
[20:22] <Pici> xplinux: That is not an official derivative and we do not support it.  Please stop assuming that we do.
[20:23] <JoeSomebody> like mcafee avira kasperksy eset, do any of those work on ubuntu?
[20:23] <un1x01d> Da5iD101, sure thing, i'm sure you can take it from here :)
[20:23] <NateWiebe> for some reason, my monitor is displaying multiple copies of the desktop.. this only happens with ubuntu. ???
[20:23] <NateWiebe> (4 cursors, each one to the right gets more and more transparent though)
[20:24] <xplinux> pici in this page say than ylmfos ubuntu 9.10 have own support? file:///usr/share/ylmf-artwork/index.html
[20:24] <Pici> JoeSomebody: Wikipedia says they do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Anti-virus_applications
[20:24] <ZykoticK9> NateWiebe, are you by chance using a Nvidia GeForce 9200M GE?
[20:24] <drmagoo> I have 2 boxes on seperate dsl's, they have the same hardware. Both running ubuntu 9.10 only diffrence is that #2 is a fresh install. This rule gets accepted on both machines "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/24  -j MASQUERADE". But only works on machine #1 not on #2. Anyone got any ideas?
[20:25] <NateWiebe> geforce 220gt
[20:25] <Pici> xplinux: We do not and cannot support ylmfos.  If you want support from us then you need to be using Ubuntu.  Please stop asking.
[20:25] <guntbert> ceil420: no need to get upset please - it was intended as a gentle reminder - thats why I sent it in PM  - and as for the joins/parts -- those I told my client to hide in large channels :-)
[20:25] <NateWiebe> ZykoticK9: geforce 220gt, i also have this issue on an onboard intel
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> NateWiebe, I don't have any answer for you but the following LP question reports a similar issue (no answers yet) https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/108149
[20:26] <xplinux> pici but this distro is the same than ubuntu but with other skin  , skin xp
[20:26] <coachj> No one knows why I would get this error -6: Not Supported while trans files from mp3 to music folder?
[20:26] <cyy> is there some way to say "only allow process X to use n GB of RAM, then force it into swap space even if more RAM is available"?
[20:27] <ceil420> guntbert: i come here to help users, not get harassed by the staff every time i even look like i may start to begin thinking of toeing the line. you're not the first op to jump on my case over nothing, and i imagine the one that does it after this will recieve a harsher response :|
[20:27] <cyy> or the same for a user instead of a specific process?
[20:27] <Pici> xplinux: No. Its not.  I don't want to have to remove you from the channel for this, so please stop asking.
[20:28] <guntbert> ceil420: may I pm you?
[20:28] <NateWiebe> ZykoticK9: not the same issue, i almost want to call it ghosting, but i dont know if that is the correct word. everything is a bit fuzzy, and there are about 5 versions of the whole display that are on the monitor, they overlap and get more transparent
[20:28] <g33k3rgRL> hello, I can't find where to set the startup sound, where can i find that, and can i just replace it with another sound file?
[20:28] <ZykoticK9> NateWiebe, i'm sorry - I don't have any suggestions.  Best of luck.
[20:29] <ceil420> guntbert: you already broke that ice through your little bot-proxy. PM away, though. if i don't like what you say, i'll try to just ignore it.
[20:29] <haavaros> Is there a problem with USB sticks and ubuntu? I can't get Ubuntu to discover them
[20:29] <haavaros> ^as in pendrives
[20:29] <haavaros> They work in Win/
[20:29] <haavaros> They work in Win7
[20:29] <tucemiux> haavaros, nope, theyk work just fine
[20:30] <_blackwater_> haavaros open a terminal, type sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog and see what errors if any come up during plugging unplugging
[20:30] <ceil420> haavaros: with the drive not plugged in, do "ls /dev/" in a terminal (no quotes). then, plug the drive in and wait a few seconds and do it again. see if there's a new "sdN" entry
[20:30] <h00k> haavaros: generally they work alright.  Check dmesg | tail to see if there are any errors
[20:30] <xplinux> pici in many Spanish companies ylmfos used because it is the easiest linux ubuntu distro for their employees to be very similar to xp
[20:30] <xplinux> is used
[20:30] <azi_> my system freezed and after reboot, sound is not working anymore.. it is not muted and every player works as it should but there is no sound. any clues?
[20:31] <Pici> xplinux: So?  That doesn't mean its a supported Ubuntu variant.  Try asking in ##linux if you need support.
[20:32] <xplinux> yes becaue i dont know what is the support of ylmfos maden in chine
[20:32] <Pici> xplinux: then don't use it.
[20:33] <xplinux> but is bveryb original  a ten for their creator
[20:33] <Dmitry> pidorasi :)
[20:33] <xplinux> is very original
[20:33] <Pici> xplinux: Its still not supported here.  End of discussion.
[20:33] <IdleOne> xplinux: please stop discussing ylmf. it IS NOT supported here.
[20:33] <daz_the_farmer> why is my download speed 5 times faster on windows than on here???
[20:34] <andresp> hello people
[20:34] <h00k> !hello
[20:34] <daz_the_farmer> hello
[20:34] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  it is the servers they are coming from
[20:34] <Dmitry> poshel nahuj
[20:34] <cyy> is there some way to say "only allow process X to use n GB of RAM, then force it into swap space even if more RAM is available"?
[20:34] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  you may be hitting a server for ubuntu that is being hit hard
[20:35] <andresp> any one know a working trick to mask an ip into a USA Ip in ubuntu?
[20:35] <daz_the_farmer> how can i change servers
[20:35] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  I personally never really see a difference  unless ubuntu servers are being hit
[20:35] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  I wouldnt do that... just assume  that many are now downloading from the servers
[20:35] <andresp> anyone?
[20:36] <ZykoticK9> cyy, your suggestion doesn't make any sense, why use swap that would slow the entire system, why physical memory is available?  I doubt it's an option.
[20:36] <daz_the_farmer> ok thanx COZ
[20:36] <cyy> multiple users are using the system
[20:36] <coz_> andresp,  I am not sure   I am a dunce with networking on any level :)
[20:36] <h00k> andresp: I guess you'd have to find a proxy to use
[20:36] <cyy> so I want to limit how much physical RAM each is allocated
[20:36] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  just have some patience with it ...it will eventually speed up
[20:36] <daz_the_farmer> will try
[20:36] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  remember ubuntu is becoming much more poplular
[20:36] <cyy> limiting it on a per-user instead of per-process basis is fine too
[20:36] <andresp> thanks h00k but in order to watch hulu proxy sucks :(
[20:37] <xplinux> where is supported ylmfos ubuntu xp?
[20:37] <daz_the_farmer> im always using ubuntu but lately slow download speed
[20:37] <ZykoticK9> xplinux, ##linux
[20:37] <andresp> I'm using tor but it really slow down network trafic
[20:37] <andresp> :(
[20:37] <daz_the_farmer> 19mb on windows about 3 on here
[20:37] <daz_the_farmer> not good
[20:37] <xplinux> now go to th link
[20:38] <IdleOne> xplinux: /join ##linux
[20:38] <zvacet> daz_the_farmer : under system>admin>software source try to cange server and see if that helps
[20:38] <pingvinqq> hi !!! anybody know how i can change my "ip" with a terminal?:D
[20:38] <daz_the_farmer> i will have a look
[20:39] <karavomi> Τηλεόραση
[20:39] <pingvinqq> PLiZZ !:D
[20:39] <Pici> !gr | karavomi
[20:39] <andresp> what you mean by changing IP ?
[20:40] <daz_the_farmer> just doing a ..select best server... see if that works
[20:40] <h00k> andresp: that's about all you can do, I suppose, is get a US proxy or a VPN of some sorts.
[20:40] <mbeierl> tried googling, can't seem to get an answer.  Does anyone here know what "livezone" is?  It installed itself and a cron job and seemed to pretend to be an HTTP daemon, but it really appears to be a bot of some sort...
[20:41] <fdsa_> anyone know where i can get some gdb help?
[20:41] <Pici> mbeierl: I don't see any packages in our archives that provide that file.... I'd check your auth log.
[20:42] <guntbert> mbeierl: I don't remember anything "installing itself" - there always had to be a "do it" with root permissions
 : watch this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[20:44] <mcsmurf> hi, are there any common problems one can make when using cfdisk + mkfs.ext3? Just wondering as I tried to partition a disk today; cfdisk then told me the partition was 41GB, but after creating the fs with mkfs.ext3 and mounted it, df -h showed me the partition had 350MB
[20:44] <mcsmurf> well, I then used gparted and that worked fine..
[20:44] <CQ> question... does or doesn't LUKS have a timeout option in /etc/crypttab ? several sites mention it, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495509 mentions it's removal ...
[20:44] <mcsmurf> s/problems/mistakes
[20:44] <CQ> looked in the crypttab manpage, didn't see it, didn't see it in mount manpage either, but sometimes those options are in other manpages where I don''t think to look...
[20:44] <dotnetted> anyone know how long an LVPM transfer of a 30GB wufi installation usually takes?
[20:45] <dotnetted> wubi*
[20:46] <mbeierl> guntbert: Pici: sorry - I just discovered this on a shared desktop machine at work.  and NO - to the best of my knowledge it did NOT come from any package.
[20:46] <Barkhorn> CQ, it is timeout=<sec> according to my manpage
[20:47] <mbeierl> guntbert: Pici: I'm just pinging here to see if anyone's heard of it.  It appears in google references from about 2004, but no one really seems to have discovered its purpose :(
[20:47] <guntbert> mbeierl: that cron job: is it  a root cron or a user cron?
[20:48] <CQ> Barkhorn: which manpage?
[20:48] <Barkhorn> CQ, crypttab
[20:48] <mbeierl> guntbert: user.
[20:49] <mbeierl> guntbert: and it appears to have been running since Feb. 2010 so the auth logs, etc, are long gone
[20:49] <CQ> Barkhorn: ??? I'm running 9.10, and my cryptsetup has the option, crypttab doesn't ...
[20:49] <guntbert> mbeierl: then you know which user installed it - ask that one
[20:49] <Barkhorn> CQ, i'm on 8.04 and the man page lists it
[20:49] <mbeierl> guntbert: they have no clue how it got there...
[20:50] <CQ> Barkhorn: look at the bug link, debian took it out at some point...
[20:50] <mbeierl> guntbert: that's why I thought I'd just do a quick ask in a public place to see if anyone recognized the term, or if it's even relevant anymore.
[20:51] <Galaxor> Is there a way to backup an ntfs partition to another ntfs partition, preserving all the ntfs-related permissions and attributes?
[20:51] <mbeierl> guntbert: it appears that it was a trojan (perhaps) of some sort that was in vogue around 6 years ago
[20:51] <guntbert> mbeierl: ah yes  - I suppose your best way is to get rid of it :-))
[20:52] <switch10_> Galaxor: you should be able to do that with rsync with the --perms option
[20:53] <mbeierl> guntbert: yep.  thanks for the ideas though.  I hate just simply "deleting things" without really knowing the root cause or the potential for damage that might have been there...
[20:53] <helo> gnome-games-common
[20:53] <switch10_> Galaxor: I have never tested rsync with NTFS myself though...  But I don't see why it wouldn't work
[20:53] <Galaxor> switch10_: What about other NTFS attributes, like "Read only" and "hidden"?
[20:53] <heauxbag> ok, i had this question before. im trying to connect to postgresql on port 5432, and the connection keeps timing out. netstat tells me its listening for tcp connections on the correct port, and this time its listening for inbound connections instead of just on localhost. iptables seems to be allowing connections too. is there anything else that could be refusing the connection?
[20:54] <heauxbag> i just talked to the guys in #postgresql, and all of the pgsql stuff should be configured to allow for inbound connections
[20:54] <joaopinto> mbeierl, is it installed as root ?
[20:54] <switch10_> Galaxor: take a look at man rsync.  the -a option should cover you...
[20:54] <guntbert> mbeierl: I know the feeling - did you *hm* search in the user's home?
[20:54] <FriedrichMan> hey
[20:54] <mbeierl> joaopinto: no, fortunately not.  It was just as a user and their crontab
[20:54] <Exposure531> evening
[20:54] <mbeierl> guntbert: YES :) !
[20:55] <FriedrichMan> how can I do a reverse ip lookup from console
[20:55] <llutz> FriedrichMan: dig -x
[20:55] <Pici> FriedrichMan: dig -x
[20:55] <erUSUL> FriedrichMan: dig ? whois ?
[20:55] <mbeierl> guntbert: oddly, I found a .livezone directory complete with a makefile of some sort.
[20:55] <Name141> Hello, I installed Ubuntu on an old machine and restart works without a hitch.  However, when I go to shut the machine down I get "system halted" and it doesn't turn off.  Although I can hear the hard drive spin down and click off.
[20:55] <Galaxor> switch10_: Y'know, I don't think --perms would work, though, because the linux driver for ntfs ignores the NTFS groups/users/permissions and mounts it so that everything on the NTFS filesystem appears to have the same user, group, and permissions.
[20:56] <guntbert> mbeierl: the date of that directory could give a hint...
[20:56] <Galaxor> switch10_:  that's why everything appears to be executable when I look at my NTFS partition.
[20:56] <FriedrichMan> mmm... maybe it's not exactly what I am talking about... I mean I found this site http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/web-sites-on-web-server/  with this tool to find out what websites are hosted on a server... and was wondering if that's possible from console
[20:56] <Name141> Then I have to press the power button for it to go completly off.
[20:57] <duffydack> I`d personally just either dd or clonezilla
[20:57] <Galaxor> switch10_:  I guess there's a chance that the ntfs driver implements the NTFS attributes as "ext3 acls", and rsync knows how to read those.
[20:57] <duffydack> to clone an ntfs
[20:57] <switch10_> Galaxor: yeah I wouldn't know for sure.  I can't remember the last time Ive used NTFS.  all I could suggest is test it with a single small dir to see if it does what you want
[20:57] <LzrdKing> clonezilla?
[20:57] <Nehmulos> clonezilla rocks
[20:57] <Galaxor> duffydack:  That's what I've been doing, but I don't like that I have to clone the entire filesystem, rather than syncing.
[20:58] <mbeierl> guntbert: the "src" files date to 2004.  some of the executable output dates at 2010 Feb 28.  User does not recall anything on that date
[20:58] <melanie_> -m irc.tweakers.net
[20:58] <Name141> is the power managetment settings needing to be changed or something?
[20:58] <LzrdKing> Name141: sounds lie it doen't have a "soft" power switch.  AT maybe?
[20:59] <Dandre1> hello,
[20:59] <Name141> LzrdKing: This never happened in XP or 98 SE
[20:59] <joaopinto> mbeierl, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/y2kupdate-denial-of-service-vulnerability-769247/
[20:59] <LzrdKing> Name141: then maybe it is the pwer settings somewhere, but i don;t know
[20:59] <guntbert> mbeierl: I was thinking about ls -ld .livezone    -- the date of the directory itself :-) - but if the user "doesn't remember" then .... (but I guess it was enough to warn him off for the future :-))
[21:00] <TomG> Name141: I have that same issue only when I turn the ACPI off (my DVD drive doesn't work otherwise).
[21:00] <joaopinto> it's a bot which exploits phpMyAdmin
[21:00] <Name141> TomG: Is it possible the old BIOS needs updating?
[21:00] <Dandre1> I have found sun-java 1.6.20 aparamently for karmic here: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java6/
[21:00] <Dandre1> but I haven't found these packages in any dist. Whta should I put in my sources.list to get those packages installed?
[21:01] <LzrdKing> mbeierl: you're dealing with users.  to paraphrase Gregory House, MD, "Users always lie"
[21:01] <mbeierl> joaopinto: That's the one!  Thanks!
[21:01] <usuario_> bin
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> Dandre1, are you using Lucid?
[21:01] <TomG> Name141: It seems possible.  I'd check the manafacturer's website.
[21:01] <Dandre1> no
[21:01] <mbeierl> guntbert: sorry - I moved the directory when I did the cleanup so the ls doesn't work anymore
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> Dandre1, ok just checkin'
[21:01] <Dandre1> only karmic
[21:01] <mbeierl> LzrdKing: hee hee, too true!
[21:01] <arand> Galaxor: fsarchiver+recent ntfs-3g can allegedly copy ntfs with all properties intact.
[21:02] <LzrdKing> so linux DOES have malware!
[21:02] <llutz> LzrdKing: surprise surprise
[21:02] <usuario_> usuario/bin dev
[21:02] <Name141> "[24699.572389] system halted"
[21:02] <guntbert> mbeierl: of course you did :-) and in the meantime someone found out what it was :-)
[21:02] <usuario_> pibng
[21:02] <usuario_> ping
[21:02] <LzrdKing> just not *viruses*
[21:02] <ubuntu> can you get fspot on xubuntu
[21:03] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: yes
[21:03] <ubuntu> sebsebseb thankyou
[21:03] <screenshot> hi First of all I apologize. I do not know English. I did this translation at translate.google.com. Usb wireless adapter, since my version of Ubuntu 9.04 is not used. Ralink 3070 chipset devices. How do I find a solution to this problem?
[21:03] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: you can run most Ubuntu/Gnome programs in Xubuntu as well
[21:03] <joaopinto> LzrdKing, there are been virus/bots exploiting known security vulnerabilities a long time ago, years and years ago :)
[21:03] <ubuntu> I just noticed my username, I am on a live cd, it must be the defult
[21:04] <TomG> LzrdKing: There are viruses.  The thing is, after you take out the ones that don't work anymore / on your distro, you end up with very few actually harmful.
[21:04] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: altough,  f-spot is a Mono app, it's not realy a Gnome app.  just wanted to be clear there
[21:04] <sebsebseb> ubuntulog: most programs that will run in Ubuntu will also work in Xubuntu, that's what I mean
[21:04] <LzrdKing> can someont give me a command line solution for detecting when my wireless card disconnects, then reconnect it?  iwconfig still showed the essis but it wasn't associated
[21:04] <ubuntu> sebsebseb thankyou
[21:04] <LzrdKing> essid*
[21:04] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: np
[21:05] <Name141> "system halted" sort of like "It's now safe to turn off your computer" in windows talk?
[21:05] <Name141> is*
[21:05] <TechMondo> hello
[21:05] <dotnetted> I used the LVPM tool to transfer my Wubi installation to /dev/sda6. When I boot I see a grub menu with only "Unknown OS" and "Windows". If I choose "Unknown OS" it takes me to the original Wubi bootloader. Any ideas appreciated ;)
[21:05] <mbeierl> joaopinto: guntbert: the good news is this "dos" never appeared to have occurred.  The proc has been active for months now and the box that it was on remained passive :)  Teaches us not to ignore shared desktops
[21:05] <LzrdKing> Name141: it means the cpu has powered down
[21:05] <stones> Ok guys, your netbook install sucks :/
[21:05] <Barkhorn> LzrdKing, have a look at nm-tool output
[21:06] <stones> heh, ive tried on several netbooks and no luck.
[21:06] <LzrdKing> Name141: and you can safetly turn it off
[21:06] <Name141> LzrdKing: meaning it should be safe to just press the power button for the machine to go off?
[21:06] <sebsebseb> LzrdKing: malware can be made for modern versions of Linux distro's however it's not that likely,  since how Linux distros tend to be designed so to be mor secure than Windows,  but also the lack of market share
[21:06] <Name141> LzrdKing: OK ,other than annoyance I should be OK?
[21:06] <joaopinto> mbeierl, how you know it has been passive, how do you known it didn't infect other machines :) ?
[21:06] <synapse> can someone tell me what the 2>&1 when piping a command to /dev/null means?  $command > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[21:06] <LasseK> Hello, are there any known problems with watching movies straight from an NTFS partition?
[21:06] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, tick tick - the market share thing is a quasi-myth.  Look at servers, why infect desktops when servers would have so much more power/inpact.
[21:07] <synapse> or where to lookup redirection for shell scripting
[21:07] <LzrdKing> i thikn the "lack of market share" is meaningless; there are/were viruses for mobile devices that had tiny market shares
[21:07] <erUSUL> synapse: redirect both stdout and stderr
[21:07] <TechMondo> Name141 do you want to join my channel?
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, s/tick/tisk
[21:07] <LzrdKing> Name141: definitely
[21:07] <Name141> TechMondo: ?
[21:07] <stones> who use ubuntu servers?
[21:07] <amosek> synapse: it redirects error messages as well
[21:07] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: i will check out nm-tool
[21:07] <TomG> synapse: /dev/null means get rid of it.
[21:07] <joaopinto> ZykoticK9, except that servers are usually managed by skilled people, unlike desktops :)
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> stones, linux servers
[21:08] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: most of the web is run by Linux or Unix servers,  and yes they do get attacked as far as I know quite a lot of them a lot of the time,  and how often do you hear about a website being broken in to?  not that often at all,  and if you do it probablyy was run by Windows ,  and yep  off topic
[21:08] <duffydack> Macs have a larget market share than linux, not as many as windows but still a nice chunk.. how come more virus/malware are not focused on them ?
[21:08] <synapse> so it pipes all stdout/sderr messages to /dev/null while doing the entire thing in the background?
[21:08] <duffydack> larget=larger*
[21:08] <LzrdKing> synapse: 2>&1 means "send file descriptor 2 (stderr) to the same place as descriptor 1 (stdout)
[21:08] <synapse> err, not pipes, redirects
[21:08] <TomG> duffydack: Mac is linux
[21:08] <sebsebseb> duffydack: Mac OS X is  Unix based/like just like Linux distros are
[21:08] <llutz> joaopinto: not today, where every "i hate win" n00b runs xx public services or vps without a bit of a clue
[21:08] <duffydack> TomG, sebsebseb is it really all its down to ?
[21:09] <synapse> its some stupid question I have for this "scripting assessment"
[21:09] <ulziibuyan> how can i find out the physical address of Canonical Ltd.?
[21:09] <amosek> synapse: and then everything to /dev/null
[21:09] <stones> i keep getting read/write errors when trying to install netbook
[21:09] <synapse> and I never have used some crazy command like that before
[21:09] <ubuntu> who here does not like the move towards ubuntu one and the music store?
[21:09] <TomG> duffydack: Yes and macs are only about 5-10% of the market.
[21:09] <sebsebseb> duffydack: that's one reason,  plus most computer users that don't know how to keep a computer secure enough, run Windows
[21:09] <synapse> I just googled 2>&1 and was surprised it had all the info I needed
[21:09] <sebsebseb> duffydack: and that's a lot of people
[21:09] <synapse> didn;t think that would google right
[21:09] <ulziibuyan> how can i find out the physical address of Canonical Ltd.? =)
[21:10] <TechMondo> YUHH
[21:10] <stones> anyone here use backtrack?
[21:10] <joaopinto> ulziibuyan, check www.canonical.com ?
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> !backtrack > stones
[21:10] <stones> ubuntu isnt detecting my wireless card
[21:10] <LzrdKing> synapse, to tell you the truth, i would thing so either, i'd think you'd end up googling effectively for 1 2
[21:10] <LzrdKing> well 2 1
[21:10] <wise_crypt> does pidgin still works with yahoo?
[21:10] <guntbert> !ot | ubuntu
[21:10] <dagny_ta1gart> stones: try #backtrack-linux
[21:10] <ulziibuyan> joaopinta: sorry, can't find it on canonical.com
[21:10] <wng-> can anyone tell me what this in the syslog means? http://pastebin.com/PAvueKRY
[21:10] <joaopinto> ulziibuyan, http://www.canonical.com/
[21:10] <screenshot> hi First of all I apologize. I do not know English. I did this translation at translate.google.com. Usb wireless adapter, since my version of Ubuntu 9.04 is not used. Ralink 3070 chipset devices. How do I find a solution to this problem?
[21:10] <SpamapS> ulziibuyan: whois canonical.com
[21:11] <ulziibuyan> SpamapS: good idea thanks!
[21:11] <dotnetted> anyone ever encountered a grub menu option "unknown os" that directs to the original wubi grub after doing a LVPM transfer of Wubi?
[21:11] <netshine> hey, someone know good program to restore deleted information?
[21:11] <joaopinto> wng-, which ubuntu verision are you using ?
[21:11] <joaopinto> netshine, try testdisk
[21:11] <synapse> thanks all for help
[21:11] <joaopinto> erm, version
[21:11] <wng-> joaopinto: 9.04
[21:12] <joaopinto> wng-, that's an out of memory event
[21:12] <netshine> joaopinto, i was power-break, and my pc was shutdown when i was editing lyx document and now is ZERO bites...
[21:12] <dagny_ta1gart> wng: bad memory
[21:12] <erUSUL> !undelete | netshine
[21:12] <netshine> i was try to google...
[21:12] <wng-> joaopinto: does that mean insufficient memory or bad memory?
[21:12] <coachj> why would i get Error getting file: -6: Not Supported when trying to move mp3s off an mp3 player?
[21:12] <netshine> anyway, and i got backup file i think that called
[21:12] <netshine> ids.lyx~
[21:12] <joaopinto> netshine, if you were editing and it was not saved, you can't restore it
[21:12] <netshine> but its contain jybrish.
[21:12] <joaopinto> wng-, usually means insufficient
[21:13] <netshine> something that seems like web-history encrypted.
[21:13] <TomG> netshine: The testdisk package contains photorec, which I have used before to restore lost data.  It's not as nice as what you'd see on that other OS, but it does "work"
[21:13] <netshine> what about the ~ flide?
[21:13] <netshine> file*
[21:13] <wng-> joaopinto: the system has 16GB of RAM, and 8GB of swap, it shouldn't be running out of memory...
[21:13] <dagny_ta1gart> wng: you have a bad stick of ram
[21:13] <sebsebseb> wise_crypt: there was a  Pidgin Yahoo issue that effected older versions of Ubuntu,  but as far as I know 9.10 currently works fine with Yahoo
[21:13] <joaopinto> wng-, if the software is bugged yes it can :)
[21:14] <netshine> anyone? :-0
[21:14] <wng-> dagny_ta1gart: alright thanks
[21:14] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: does nm-tool require X or any gnome deps?
[21:15] <wise_crypt> !pidgin
[21:16] <bondiblueos9> when I use gnu screen, it drops every other character I type :(
[21:16] <TomG> netshine: From what I remember with photorec, you run it from command line and have options on what types of files to restore
[21:16] <steven_lkz> hello! who have ever built ubuntu enterprise cloud?
[21:16] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: though i may just use NetworkManager
[21:17] <Yondering> so.. if HAL has been moved out of the boot process in 10.04, I assume it just fires off "after" boot, and that's why my box sits for two minutes at the login screen before I can enter my password? ;)
[21:17] <netshine> TomG, because it Lyx file, even scalpel dostn work.
[21:17] <Barkhorn> LzrdKing, it's the console tool for networkmanager
[21:17] <snkmad> having trouble making my raid5 to automount, with write access to user
[21:17] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: i see NetworkManager is a gnome thing.  does nm-tool require gnome?
[21:18] <dotnetted> is it possible to restore grub w/out a live cd?
[21:18] <Barkhorn> LzrdKing, no, just needs dbus
[21:18] <LzrdKing> oh wait, i see its NOT for gnome, never mind
[21:18] <Reckon_> Barkhorn, have you tried apt-get install in simulation mode to check if it has gnome deps ?
[21:18] <steven_lkz> why did not add region using elasticfox?
[21:18] <amosek> dotnetted: if the computer doesn't boot no
[21:18] <bondiblueos9> best command line irc client recommendations?
[21:18] <amosek> bondiblueos9: irssi?
[21:19] <snkmad> i dont know what otions to put in fstab, if i use this: /dev/md0        /media/raid  auto    defaults 0       0   only root has access
[21:19] <Barkhorn> Reckon_, there is an extra package for gnome called network-manager-gnome
[21:19] <dotnetted> amosek: im booted into a Wubi install of Ubuntu
[21:19] <netshine> how can i know which file-system
[21:19] <netshine> i have?
[21:19] <llutz> ntblkid
[21:19] <sebsebseb> netshine:  a few ways commands and such,  or simpalley answer this
[21:19] <johnwedd> greetings, i'm having trouble with the dpkg update process, i tried in aptitude and synaptic, and ran into the same problem, and i get this message http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/DbtRz9Kg , please help
[21:19] <llutz> netshine:  blkid
[21:19] <sebsebseb> netshine: Which version of Ubuntu?
[21:19] <wng-> bondiblueos9: irssi
[21:19] <netshine> 10.04
[21:19] <steven_lkz> 9.10
[21:19] <dotnetted> I just can't get into the LVPM transferred copy of this wubi install on a seperate partition (grub got confuzzled)
[21:19] <amosek> dotnetted: never used wubi sorry
[21:20] <sebsebseb> netshine: oh you're on 10.04???  uhmm should be asking for support really in #ubuntu+1 then,  however as of 9.10 the default file system is  Ext4
[21:20] <dotnetted> amosek: np - thanks anyway
[21:20] <sebsebseb> netshine: for clean installs
[21:20] <Reckon_> netshine: du -T
[21:20] <TomG> netshine: I just installed it to check it out.  Doesn't seem to have that specifically in the list
[21:20] <Jork> are the newest graphic drivers for nvidia in lucyd RC opensource or not?
[21:20] <sebsebseb> !lucid | Jork
[21:20] <Reckon_> sorry, df -T
[21:21] <snkmad> i dont know what options to put in fstab, for my RAID5, if i use this, only root has access: /dev/md0        /media/raid  auto    defaults 0       0
[21:21] <steven_lkz> why was I able to add region using elasticfox?
[21:21] <johnwedd> hey guys, need a lil help
[21:21] <steven_lkz> yes
[21:21] <sebsebseb> !ask | johnwedd
[21:21] <johnwedd> greetings, i'm having trouble with the dpkg update process, i tried in aptitude and synaptic, and ran into the same problem, and i get this message http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/DbtRz9Kg , please help
[21:22] <Jork> correction;  are the newest graphic drivers for nvidia in ubuntu 10.04 RC opensource or not?
[21:22] <johnwedd> i did that already :P
[21:22] <h00k> Jork: not the ones listed in Hardware Drivers, but yes
[21:22] <h00k> Jork: also, Lucid discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[21:22] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: try
[21:22] <sKAApGIF> sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[21:23] <sKAApGIF> sudo apt-get update
[21:23] <snkmad> how do i make my raid5 mount to have write access from user, not only root?
[21:23] <Jork> h00k: How can I install those wich aren't listed in hardware driwers?
[21:24] <adelcampo> i'm on an amd 64bit processor but only use 2gb of ram. should I stick with 32bit ubuntu or is the 64bit a better option still?
[21:24] <Jork> the opensource ones
[21:24] <charlie_tr> hey all
[21:24] <johnwedd> sKAApGIF, thats it?
[21:24] <h00k> Jork: are you still referring to Lucid?
[21:24] <amosek> Jork: /j #ubuntu+1
[21:24] <allaze-eroler> hello*
[21:24] <Jork> yes
[21:24] <charlie_tr> i have serious problem about ubuntu
[21:24] <jeroen> wowzers
[21:24] <h00k> Jork: #ubuntu+1
[21:24] <jeroen> i'm in
[21:24] <charlie_tr> i think ubuntu does not support my video card
[21:24] <jeroen> hi all
[21:24] <wng-> adelcampo: go for 64bit
[21:25] <TheLady> Hey guys. I am trying to find a commandline torrent maker. I searched google and all said createtorrent but that site is down. Any ideas/suggestions pls?
[21:25] <charlie_tr> i tried to download several times and couldnt manage
[21:25] <Jork> ok, thnx
[21:25] <allaze-eroler> bye
[21:25] <h00k> Jork: so, if you're on it now, you're using nouveau
[21:25] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: i'm not sure what you mean... try running those commands and see what if you still have the same problem
[21:26] <snkmad> anyone knows fstab options? need help automounting my raid5 with user access
[21:26] <Oer> charlie_tr, what version of ubuntu are you installing ?
[21:26] <switch10_> adelcampo: I would say x86 because there is no advantage in having amd64 in a system with less than 3.5gb of ram
[21:26] <charlie_tr> 9.10
[21:26] <johnwedd> sKAApGIF, no errors, ran smooth
[21:27] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: cool then your problem is sorted right?
[21:27] <bondiblueos9> if I manuall install a package with dpkg and a .deb file, with aptitude know that I did that?
[21:27] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: if i'm going to use nm-tool, i might as well use NetworkMananger instead, since it needs to be running for nm-tool to work
[21:27] <johnwedd> sKAApGIF, just one sec, lemme check
[21:27] <Oer> charlie_tr, and do you know the type of your GPU ?
[21:27] <amosek> bondiblueos9: yes
[21:27] <bondiblueos9> amosek: so I'll be able to remove it later with apt-get remove?
[21:28] <amosek> bondiblueos9: yes apt is only a frontend for dpkg
[21:28] <Barkhorn> LzrdKing, didn't know you don't have it, i thought you just wanted to monitor the link. yes it needs the NetworkManager daemon. If you don't like that you could have a look at wicd
[21:28] <LzrdKing> but what a front end it is, downloading deps automatically
[21:29] <LinuxGuy2009> Are the alternate CDs any different in the way they are created. I know that the regular CDs appear to be a pre made file system thats copied to the HDD when installed. Does the alternate CDs have all of the packages that are used to build the system? Like can the alternate disk be used as a repo source to remove and then reinstall gnome for example for an offline machine by getting the packages off of the CD rather than the internet as 
[21:29] <johnwedd> sKAApGIF, there we go, thank you so much, did i just clean out the crap from dpkg and then update
[21:29] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: its just more stuff to have running and bog down the box
[21:29] <wise_crypt> sebsebseb: i see, trying to update it just now
[21:30] <LzrdKing> is aptitude a frontend for apt?
[21:30] <Diverdude> Does there exist an alarmclock for ubuntu?
[21:30] <j0k3r> hi
[21:30] <coz_> LzrdKing,  sort of yes
[21:30] <LinuxGuy2009> Diverdude: There is an alarm clock applet in lucid.
[21:30] <amosek> LzrdKing: a ncurses-based-gui for apt? :D
[21:31] <coz_> LzrdKing,  I generally see "frontend"  as an actual gui  but  hey
[21:31] <LzrdKing> i hate aptitude, i don;t know what the sodes it uses mean, so i'm always left wondering if its going to install something or not
[21:31] <LzrdKing> codes*
[21:31] <bondiblueos9> I hate aptitude too
[21:31] <johnwedd> LzrdKing, use synaptic
[21:31] <bondiblueos9> I should probably take the time to figure it out
[21:31] <coz_> LzrdKing,  I personally never use apititude
[21:31] <bondiblueos9> I just use apt-get
[21:31] <tarzeau> i like aptitude
[21:31] <helo> aptitude is a lot better than apt-get
[21:31] <amosek> coz_: so shall i call apt an overlay for dpkg rather than frontend?
[21:32] <fosscon> can someone tell me what a box-like character in the terminal means?
[21:32] <tarzeau> bondiblueos9: apt-get fails often on ubuntu, that's why i like aptitude better here
[21:32] <fosscon> like
[21:32] <fosscon> 00
[21:32] <fosscon> 02
[21:32] <coz_> amosek,  mm :)  perhaps
[21:32] <FloodBot4> fosscon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:32] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: exactly, from the dpgk man page: dpkg --clear-avail
[21:32] <sKAApGIF>     Erase the existing information about what packages are available.
[21:32] <helo> in situations where apt-get will just give up, aptitude will tell you what your options really are
[21:32] <tarzeau> fosscon: the font doesn't have the glyph
[21:32] <fosscon> but
[21:32] <LzrdKing> i never had apt-get fail when i gave it a correct package name
[21:32] <switch10_> apt-get fails???  I have never seen this..  t
[21:32] <fosscon> does that mean that it is ascii character 2?
[21:32] <tarzeau> LzrdKing: i had
[21:32] <Kills> how do i block a site on my laptop?
[21:32] <helo> will automatically remove packages when you remove the only package that uses it, etc
[21:32] <tarzeau> switch10_: see what helo says
[21:32] <amosek> switch10_: unless u offline
[21:32] <bondiblueos9> well, let me specify: I don't feel comfortable using the aptitude text gui when it is called with no arguments
[21:32] <LinuxGuy2009> So nobody has a clue if the alternate CD has the actual raw packages for gnome and stuff on it?
[21:32] <j0k3r> ask google
[21:33] <coz_> LzrdKing,  same here... however I have had aptitude make a mess of things
[21:33] <tarzeau> Kills: put the hostname in /etc/hosts
[21:33] <Diverdude> Linkadmin2, i have only version 9.10. Is there an alarclock in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:33] <LzrdKing> helo: it will tell you next time you use that there are packages that nothing is using and you can remove them with apt-get autoremove
[21:33] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: your dpgk was probably trying to download a file from the internet which no longer exists. by deleting the old information on available packages and updating, dpgk should now try to download the correct file from the internet
[21:33] <coz_> LinuxGuy2009,  it should have all the same files on the cd    the install is different however
[21:33] <LzrdKing> sKAApGIF: dpkg can download?
[21:33] <coachj> Error getting file: -6: Not Supported anyone know why i am getting this copying mp3 off my sansa
[21:33] <johnwedd> sKAApGIF, ahhh i see, i'll remember that, thanks for the help
[21:33] <h00k> coachj: you might have to install 'lame' first
[21:33] <LinuxGuy2009> coz_: That doesnt explain it at all. hehe
[21:34] <amosek> LzrdKing: i dont thinks that it can
[21:34] <helo> looks like a lot of the functionality from aptitude has been added to apt-get
[21:34] <switch10_> in my opinion there is no real difference between the 2.  aptitude has the browser thing, thats about it.  I still like apt-get.
[21:34] <amosek> LzrdKing: *think
[21:34] <coachj> itLinuxGuy it will play them fine, does that rule out lame as  the problem
[21:34] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: no problem ;), it doesn't happen very often though
[21:34] <h00k> switch10_: aptitude contains more logics than apt-get as far as resolving problems
[21:34] <Diverdude> Is there an alamrclock available for ubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:35] <coz_> Diverdude,  mm I believe so hold on
[21:35] <Kills> in  which place do I need to put it exactly
[21:35] <coachj> hook: mp3s play fine, could it still be Lame?
[21:35] <LzrdKing> switch10_: my #1 difference is that apt-get says "i'm going to download and install these deps, is that ok?" aptidute tells me "here are deps" and i have no idea if its going to get them or not
[21:35] <sKAApGIF> Kills: blocking a website isn't all that straight forward... but it can be done, what website would you like to block
[21:35] <LinuxGuy2009> What i mean is on the CDs there is a pool folder for the actual deb packages. The regular CD only has just a few packages there. Does the alternate CD contain just the same few packages or does it contain all of the packages used by the installed system?
[21:35] <j0k3r> diverdude ; www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYrK9gxonG4
[21:35] <Kills> facebook
[21:36] <coz_> Diverdude,   i think this is it   but I have never tried it   http://alarm-clock.pseudoberries.com/
[21:36] <LzrdKing> kills add this to your /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com
[21:36] <LinuxGuy2009> Can an alternate CD be used as an apt source to install gnome from it?
[21:36] <Kills> I open the file and I put in it the top?
[21:36] <bondiblueos9> what bad things happen if you just pull the plug without a proper shutdown ?
[21:36] <LzrdKing> Kills: i'd put it at the bottom
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> hook: Having encoding issues or question I might be able to help with?
[21:37] <LzrdKing> bondiblueos9: practically? your computer spends a lot of time checking the disk for errors next time you turn it on
[21:37] <switch10_> bondiblueos9: the read/write head does not properly seat..
[21:37] <Barkhorn> bondiblueos9, i'd think your PC would turn off if you did that
[21:37] <Kills> http://pastebin.com/b60dxd0p
[21:37] <dotnetted> anyone know a good customizable iso burner thats in the repos?
[21:37] <bondiblueos9> Barkhorn: agreed
[21:37] <Kills> which place?
[21:37] <LzrdKing> theoretically you can lose data, but i've never experienced that personally
[21:37] <amosek> Kills: bottom
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> (04:37:23 PM) switch10_: bondiblueos9: the read/write head does not properly seat.. What???
[21:38] <coz_> Diverdude,  seems to work fine
[21:38] <Kills> ok how do i make redirect to a site I want
[21:38] <Diverdude> coz_, hmmm when i press the big green button here: http://alarm-clock.pseudoberries.com/#download  I need to select a program to run the file...what program would that be?
[21:38] <switch10_> bondiblueos9: its not good practice.  I messed up a few Hdd's in my NAS doing that..
[21:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Hard drive heads go to the center of the disk when you pull the plug.
[21:38] <bondiblueos9> ok, better question would be, if I do this, and the am still sitting at a prompt, what should I do?
[21:38] <bondiblueos9> ubuntu@bigbox:~$ sudo shutdown -r now
[21:38] <bondiblueos9> Broadcast message from ubuntu@bigbox
[21:38] <bondiblueos9>         (/dev/pts/3) at 16:38 ...
[21:38] <bondiblueos9> The system is going down for reboot NOW!
[21:38] <bondiblueos9> ubuntu@bigbox:~$
[21:38] <FloodBot4> bondiblueos9: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <coz_> the top one in the list if you have getdeb installed
[21:38] <LzrdKing> Kills: below the last line thats already there.  between the number and the name you might want to put tabs so your entries line up with the existing ones
[21:38] <coz_> Diverdude,  or download the  0.3.0
[21:39] <LinuxGuy2009> switch10_: you must have had hard drives from the stone ages cause they have all done this for a very very long time.
[21:39] <sKAApGIF> Kills: you can change 127.0.0.1 to the ip address of the site you want to direct it to
[21:39] <coz_> Diverdude,  follow the instructions just below the green button for adding the PPA
[21:39] <coz_> Diverdude,  then y ou can click the big green button
[21:39] <Barkhorn> bondiblueos9, at least run sync before you switch it off
[21:39] <Kills> http://pastebin.com/SN6uaiLd like this?
[21:39] <switch10_> LinuxGuy2009: actually they are brand new...  what are you talking about???
[21:40] <bondiblueos9> Barkhorn: is that just sudo sync?
[21:40] <amosek> Kills: no
[21:40] <Kills> how do I get the ip adress of the website  I want
[21:40] <Barkhorn> bondiblueos9, right, it flushes disk caches
[21:40] <bondiblueos9> is there a way I can see what is preventing the shutdown?
[21:40] <coz_> Diverdude, click on the blue  "PPA avaialbe"  text to go to the PPA
[21:40] <jrib> Kills: host
[21:40] <switch10_> LinuxGuy2009: were**
[21:40] <Kills> http://pastebin.com/NYquqLqs liek this>?
[21:40] <coachj> it wont even let me move them to trash but will permently delete them, what in the  world ?
[21:41] <coz_> Diverdude,  then click   Technical details about this PPA  on the PPA page and it will show you the two lines to add to your  /etc/atp/sources.list
[21:41] <jrib> !who | Kills
[21:41] <LinuxGuy2009> switch10_:  You told someone if you turn your PC off without shuting down then the HDD read/write head may not seat properly. This is far from true. This would ruin a drive having the head just sit on a part of the drive.
[21:41] <bondiblueos9> it wouldn't reboot, but I did make it halt instead with -h
[21:42] <switch10_> LinuxGuy2009: thats exactly what happens
[21:42] <Barkhorn> switch10_, with drives from 1990
[21:42] <cocolocko> hi@all, when i install the ubuntu 10.04 rc, will it be possible to update this version @ 29. of april to the final version?
[21:42] <bondiblueos9> ^^ also this
[21:42] <Diverdude> coz_, where do you see this "PPA avaialbe" ??
[21:42] <Kills> was that wrong or right amosek
[21:42] <sKAApGIF> Kills: yes, that looks right
[21:42] <LinuxGuy2009> switch10_:  No its not. Drives have electronics to keep enough power to send the head back home so to speak. You can even hear it on some drives. Loud ones anyways.
[21:43] <arand> !final | cocolocko
[21:43] <coz_> Diverdude,    http://alarm-clock.pseudoberries.com/#download
[21:43] <coz_> Diverdude,  you should see the blue text on that link
[21:43] <Kills> so how do I get the ip adress of the website I want cant seem to find any option like host
[21:43] <LzrdKing> Kills: looks good to me, now try it out
[21:43] <coz_> Diverdude,  just below the  big green button
[21:43] <cocolocko> arand: thanks
[21:43] <j0k3r> ping hostname ?
[21:43] <jrib> Kills: host www.google.com   for example...
[21:44] <arand> cocolocko: Also, #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support.
[21:44] <switch10_> LinuxGuy2009: yes, and if they dont make it back your hdd is done, which is exactly what happened in my case.  you can call seagate if you want them to explain it to you..
[21:44] <sKAApGIF> Kills: just be aware that many websites use virtual hosts in which case just redirecting someone to that ip address won't work
[21:44] <LzrdKing> Kills: nslookup hostname
[21:44] <z3r0-c001> 7 days till lucid
[21:44] <switch10_> LinuxGuy2009: the guys question was what is the worst that could happen...
[21:44] <z3r0-c001> has anyone already got the betas
[21:44] <Diverdude> coz_, ahh yes
[21:45] <coz_> Diverdude,  after installation... just right click on the gnome panel    "Add to panel"   Alarm clock
[21:45] <LinuxGuy2009> switch10_: Im not gonna argue with you. Unless a drives controller is seriously messed up and failed then yeah. But powering down an operating system has nothing to do with powering down a peice of hardware.
[21:45] <z3r0-c001> im runnin 8.04 is lucid any good anyone
[21:45] <Kills> 1st problem it doesn let me save the file and second which I use the server or the adress ?
[21:45] <Diverdude> coz_, hmm could it be that my /etc/atp/sources.list is completely empty?
[21:45] <bondiblueos9> switch10_ / LinuxGuy2009 : so I think you've established that drives normally move their heads out of dodge when power is cut, but there is a chance this won't happen, in which case your drive is ruined; I was more concerned about potential system configuration cleanup etc that happens at shutdown, and also write-cacheing which I had forgotten about but you reminded me of
[21:46] <jrib> z3r0-c001: try a live cd and see for yourself
[21:46] <LinuxGuy2009> noobs leading noobs. Unfortunatly happens here on occasion.
[21:46] <z3r0-c001> cant make one dont got windows
[21:46] <sebsebseb> z3r0-c001: got a CD burner?
[21:46] <coz_> Diverdude,  /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:46] <jrib> z3r0-c001: you don't need windows, you can burn CDs on ubuntu too
[21:46] <z3r0-c001> i just want anothers opinon really
[21:47] <coz_> Diverdude,  no it is not empty you just spelled it incorrectly :)
[21:47] <sKAApGIF> Kills: type in a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[21:47] <jrib> z3r0-c001: try #ubuntu-offtopic for that I guess...
[21:47] <Barkhorn> bondiblueos9, usually there is no negative effects that don't clear up on the next reboot. just potential data loss if there is unsynced changes
[21:47] <bondiblueos9> so does anyone have any ideas about my gnu screen problem?
[21:47] <jrib> !helpme | bondiblueos9
[21:47] <z3r0-c001> this isnt off topic it about the upcoming release uf ubuntu
[21:47] <Capt_Blackwood> z3ro-c001, what's you current operating system?
[21:47] <j0k3r> what your proplem with your screan ?
[21:47] <Kills> and which do I use from the nslookup command?
[21:47] <Diverdude> coz_, yes ok...i have added those...how do i then install?
[21:47] <z3r0-c001> 8.04
[21:48] <bondiblueos9> I was doing the "ask again later"
[21:48] <z3r0-c001> the bird
[21:48] <jrib> z3r0-c001: this channel is for *support* of ubuntu version that have been released
[21:48] <coz_> Diverdude,  well first  in terminal  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:48] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: thanks for stating the obviouse
[21:48] <Barkhorn> Kills, one of the addresses in the answer section
[21:48] <Capt_Blackwood> z3ero-c001, hit the website and check it out...or go to #ubuntu+1 and have a look
[21:48] <coz_> Diverdude,  then sudo apt-get install alarm-clock-applet
[21:49] <Kills> Server:		212.59.1.1
[21:49] <Kills>  this or this Address:	212.59.1.1#53
[21:49] <Diverdude> coz_, yes it seems to be installing correctly
[21:49] <coz_> Diverdude,  there you go
[21:49] <jrib> Kills: you need to put the person's nick that you are talking to in your message or it is very confusing
[21:49] <LzrdKing> Kills: neither, the hosts address
[21:50] <Kills> a few people are helping me now lol
[21:50] <Barkhorn> server is the DNS server you asked to resolve the URL to an IP, there should be a line "Non-authoritative answer:" and at least one address following
[21:50] <bondiblueos9> often, when I run screen, it only responds to every other keypress; this doesn't happen at the normal prompt before I run screen, and it doesn't happen with screen when I ssh in
[21:50] <jrib> Kills: it's possible to type more than one nick...
[21:50] <Kills> i cant keep track of all opf them Im afraid
[21:50] <j0k3r> don't be
[21:51] <jrib> Kills: well pick the one whose questions you are answering
[21:52] <Diverdude> coz_, aha thats really nice :)
[21:52] <hal1> I have copied the ubuntu live cd to a HDD partition and I am getting the error "could not find kernel image: linux" and then the boot: prompt.  Does anyone know what I need to do to make it boot?
[21:52] <Diverdude> coz_, thx a lot mate :D
[21:53] <xplinux> hi where is the support for ubntu 9.10 distro chinese ylmf.o.s  ubuntu xp ? http://picasaweb.google.es/112370194056728732538/DISTROYMLFOSXPUBUNTU910?authkey=Gv1sRgCOTTtqCWk_C5nAE#5463065604617397186
[21:53] <Diverdude> coz_, do you know where i turn of all kind of sleep mode etc. so that the computer won't fall asleep :)
[21:54] <j0k3r> hall : type at the boot line the following "/isolinux/vmlinuz initrd=/isolinux/initrd.img"
[21:54] <j0k3r> this hit enter
[21:54] <Kills> well it doesnt load facebook but the host doesnt redirect where i want it to
[21:55] <hal1> j0k3r: thanks - I iwll try taht
[21:55] <h00k> xplinux: we've told you, this isn't the place for it
[21:55] <ZykoticK9> xplinux, i thought we already went over this.  It's not supported in this channel!  You can ask in ##linux "/join ##linux" to get there.
[21:55] <axisys> what is a good sip client ?
[21:55] <axisys> !sip
[21:56] <xplinux> thanks i try it again
[21:56] <j0k3r> hope it w0rks tell us again hall
[21:57] <j0k3r> be right back --
[21:58] <sp0spo> hi
[21:58] <j0k3r> hi ur self
[21:58] <Jordan_U> hal1: Did you use unetbootin?
[21:59] <hal1> yes I did Jordan_U
[21:59] <dyek> When I ssh into a Netbook running Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR), this command doesn't work: "DISPLAY=:0 gnome-screensaver-command -d". That appears to work on the regular Ubuntu 9.10 (same release version number as UNR). Any idea what are the differences between the desktop and UNR versions? The error on UNR is: ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: No protocol specified
[22:00] <KaiForce> wat
[22:01] <haavaros> My gf is on a crappy laptop, and Ubuntu is kinda slow sometimes. Would the most effective countermeasure be to install a lighter desktop environment? Any suggestions?
[22:02] <sebsebseb> habtool: maybe up the SWAP space a bit,  and there's XFCE/Xubuntu and LXDE/Lubuntu
[22:03] <sebsebseb> habtool: plus their are distros such as Puppy Linux and Damn Small Linux, which have been specifically made for old hardware
[22:03] <j0k3r> haavaros ; disable ipv6
[22:04] <haavaros> j0k3r: Wow, ok.. i'll try that, thx
[22:04] <sebsebseb> ah ha I used the wrong name  so  haavaros  not habtool
[22:04] <j0k3r> no he's not
[22:07] <Razion> Anyone happen to know the simplest smb.conf possible for unsecured file-sharing to windows clients?
[22:08] <Razion> All of mine seem to fail catastrophically.
[22:09] <synapse> is there any way to use the argc/arg list to define a variable in bash, right now I'm doing this: fileName=$1
[22:09] <headfoo> l
[22:09] <h00k> synapse: check #bash
[22:09] <synapse> can I eliminate the fileName variable?
[22:10] <windgat> hi all
[22:10] <j0k3r> hi u
[22:11] <noqturnal1> hello hello
[22:11] <windgat> I've been out of the gaming scene for quite a while now; can anyone tell me a bit more about steam?
[22:11] <CaptainTrek> windgat: go to steam.com and read up
[22:11] <noqturnal1> anyone have a moment to help me with a partition issue? It involves permissions and writing
[22:11] <bondiblueos9> windgat, what about steam?
[22:11] <Razion> Steam doesn't run on Linux...?
[22:11] <bondiblueos9> steam was running on mhy linux
[22:12] <j0k3r> Welcome to Steam ,,
[22:12] <bondiblueos9> with wine, of course
[22:12] <Razion> Really? I had thought it could only be used for dedicated servers.
[22:12] <j0k3r> how did u do it ?
[22:12] <digitalstimulus> check #winehq
[22:12] <Razion> Ah. Is wine actually useful enough to run Steam games nowadays? xD
[22:12] <windgat> I gather that it's a gaming content delivery platform, but doe sthat mean that I will be able to play all those other games that have been unavailable to us until now, on my linux system?
[22:12] <bondiblueos9> I followed the instructions on some site, haha; I don't remember exactly, but it wasn't too difficult
[22:12] <noqturnal1> could really use some help
[22:12] <digitalstimulus> windgat, I play Steam games daily.  check winehq.org and the channel #winehq
[22:12] <Razion> Theoretically, if you can get one Source Engine game to run on Wine, you can get all of them to run, Windgat.
[22:13] <windgat> thanks
[22:13] <Razion> HL2, CS:S, Orange Box, Gmod...All the same game, basically.
[22:13] <windgat> so it simply runs games *emulated* via wine; now "natively" in a kind of VM?
[22:13] <windgat> s/now/not/
[22:13] <taofd> I would like to force my clock to sync with servers, is there a way to do this?
[22:14] <Losha> noqturnal1: no promises, but do you want to say more about your problem?
[22:14] <bondiblueos9> windgat: I'm not sure if that's accurate
[22:14] <noqturnal1> doorbell
[22:14] <bondiblueos9> windgat: I think wine just provides the missing windows stuff, just enough of it
[22:14] <windgat> 'cause I see steam has been poerted to mac (beta), so something closer to bare-metal would be possible on *nix
[22:15] <Losha> taofd: ntp does exactly that. You can also do a one-time update using ntpdate e.g. sudo /usr/sbin/ntpdate utcnist.colorado.edu
[22:15] <titilcuite> leave
[22:15] <Razion> Anyone decent with Samba lurking around?
[22:15] <taofd> Losha, thx let me try it out
[22:15] <titilcuite> help
[22:15] <windgat> so using the mac port, there would be no need for wine
[22:15] <Lokillo> hjjh
[22:15] <windgat> Razion: webmin
[22:15] <mark--asdfadfjkh> anyone know asp?
[22:15] <titilcuite> list server
[22:15] <titilcuite> list
[22:15] <titilcuite> quit
[22:15] <Losha> titilcuite: need some help?
[22:16] <titilcuite> I am trying to find a list of commands.
[22:16] <Razion> Windgat: I only need it to run unsecured file-sharing to windows clients....
[22:16] <Razion> Looking for a simpler solution.
[22:16] <titilcuite> It was about 10 years ago the last time i did get into irc
[22:16] <j0k3r> command of what ?
[22:16] <Losha> titilcuite: depends on your client, but most commands start with a slash e.g. /help
[22:16] <windgat> Razion: i use webmin to simplify all my samba needs
[22:16] <j0k3r> humm this is my first time
[22:16] <Razion> Windgat: I'll give it a try.
[22:17] <titilcuite> i don't want to bother you guys too much
[22:17] <taofd> Losha, lolwut, ntpdate is not installed on my machine o_O
[22:17] <noqturnal1> Losha, All: I am trying to partition a harddrive to where i can mount it in linux. I can do that much but i cannot manage to get it to become writable. This is a linux only pc right now and ill VM win 7 later. I have Xubuntu 9.10
[22:17] <mark--asdfadfjkh> cool
[22:17] <titilcuite> bye
[22:17] <Razion> Windgat: Do you happen to know the apt-get package name for webmin?
[22:17] <mark--asdfadfjkh> anyone here know how to use asp?
[22:17] <windgat> ok, guys. I think I understand a bit better now. thanks
[22:18] <taofd> Losha, i'm getting this error: ntpdate[4401]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[22:18] <windgat> Razion: you should find the instructions on the site. it's extremely easy (2 or 3 commands)
[22:18] <llutz> noqturnal1: use chown/chmod to set permissions
[22:18] <Losha> taofd: run ps ax|egrep ntp to see if it's already running...
[22:18] <noqturnal1> i tried
[22:18] <noqturnal1> but i need to know a bit more about it because i dont think i did it right
[22:18] <fumbles> anybody have luck putting pcbsd into the grub2 40_custom file?
[22:19] <Losha> noqturnal1: where is the drive mounted to ?
[22:19] <snkmad> need some help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1460365
[22:19] <noqturnal1> losha: /dev/sda6
[22:19] <noqturnal1> mounted to /media/storage
[22:19] <Razion> Anyone know the KDE4 package name off-hand?
[22:19] <windgat> bb
[22:19] <fumbles> Razion: you try the tab complete in apt?
[22:19] <Losha> noqturnal1: and what does ls -ld /media/storage say? (those are lower case Ls)
[22:20] <arvigeus> How can I turn off bluetooth from terminal?
[22:20] <Razion> There's a tab-complete? O_o;
[22:20] <taofd> Losha, yeah i stopped the service, ntpdated, then restarted it thx! :)
[22:20] <j0k3r> taofs
[22:20] <j0k3r> taofd
[22:20] <Losha> taofd: excellent
[22:20] <snoopy_> How do I change my password on ubuntu? I forgot it.
[22:20] <Bisu[Shield]> where do i find the php error logs
[22:20] <llutz> snoopy_: passwd
[22:20] <noqturnal1> Losha:/dev/hdxy   /mnt/hdxy  file_system  noatime,user,exec,dev,suid,gid=users,umask=000  0  0
[22:20] <noqturnal1> woops
[22:20] <nada> hi
[22:20] <taofd> Losha, btw, do you know of a way to set the "default" time for gnome panel's calendar/date/time app? :D
[22:20] <Razion> fumbles: How do I go about using the tab-complete?
[22:20] <snoopy_> but it ask for my current password
[22:20] <noqturnal1> losha: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2010-04-22 15:36 /media/storage
[22:20] <snoopy_> and I forgot it
[22:21] <Bisu[Shield]> yo
[22:21] <Losha> taofd: sorry, I don't run gnome, maybe someone else knows..
[22:21] <Spoils> ok
[22:21] <taofd> Losha, well thanks for all your help already
[22:21] <fumbles> Razion: in a terminal there's tab complete; where you type in "apt-get install kde" then hit tab once or twice to see the list of available options
[22:21] <moreia> I've got a dual display setup that is really buggy about screenshots. If I try to grab *just* the window it gets cut off  dramatically. Big black bar.
[22:21] <Spoils> quick question... i am a noob and i have installed the netbook remix on my gf's acer aspire
[22:21] <Razion> fumbles: Oh. Clever.
[22:21] <coz_> taofd,  if you right click the system clock you can go to preferences
[22:22] <Spoils> i had to manually download the f'n restricted extras package for some reason or another cause when i did it on the terminal it said there was an error
[22:22] <taofd> coz_, i have multiple locations set for time, i want to switch one, since i am currently outside my home country
[22:22] <coz_> taofd,  mm let me check hold on
[22:22] <Spoils> but not have i have downloaded and manually installed the restricted extras package... none of the programs (rhythmbox, etc) seem to know that i have done so and can't play any of the file formats
[22:22] <Losha> noqturnal1: ok, 'drwxr-xr-x 3 root root' means its Writeable only by user root. To make it writable by everyone else, you need to do sudo chmod o+x /media/storage. If you do ls -l again, you should then see drwxr-xrwx
[22:23] <aoodl> hey all - after moving ubuntu from a wubi install to a new partition I get no display (apart from some red dots and a distorted loading bar) - if I ctrl-alt-f1 I can get console - any ideas?
[22:23] <arvigeus> How can I turn off bluetooth from terminal? *
[22:23] <taofd> coz_, there's no prioritize button, or "set as default" button :(
[22:23] <aoodl> shouldn't the video drivers still be working from the wubi install?
[22:23] <xangua> Spoils: manually installed restricter extras¿¿ what error gives you the terminal¿¿
[22:23] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip's clip & zoom options?
[22:23] <llutz> noqturnal1: "sudo chgrp users /media/storage && sudo chmod 775 /media/storage"  to make it writable by group "users"
[22:23] <coz_> taofd,  oh you want set to defaults  ok mmm  hold on
[22:23] <Ahmed\> Hello
[22:23] <Ahmed\> Is Lucid released ?
[22:23] <llutz> Losha: chmod o+w   not o+x
[22:24] <taofd> coz_, yes please :)
[22:24] <vinni_> lucid? no
[22:24] <arvigeus> Ahmed\: Nope
[22:24] <Ahmed\> Well sure ?
[22:24] <Ahmed\> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[22:24] <vinni_> only beta2
[22:24] <jrib> !away > libertiy
[22:24] <coz_> taofd,  so you want to change the time to where you are located at the moment?
[22:24] <noqturnal1> is llutz right?
[22:24] <Ahmed\> Have a look and tell me what version is this
[22:24] <Losha> llutz: noqturnal1: my bad, thanks for noticing. Yes, it should be  chmod o+w /media/storage
[22:24] <Ahmed\> I am confused
[22:25] <libertiy> ubottu: sorry was away
[22:25] <Losha> Ahmed\: you can discuss it to your heart's content on #ubuntu+1
[22:25] <libertiy> ubottu: what private msg?
[22:25] <taofd> coz_, no i have two locations listed, each have their own time. however, only one of them shows on my panel, i want to switch: instead of location A's time showing, I want to see location B's time
[22:25] <Spoils> xangua: it told me that it couldn't find the package...
[22:25] <Ahmed\> Thanks
[22:25] <arvigeus> How can I turn off bluetooth from terminal? ** It's important... plz
[22:26] <LjL> arvigeus: probably sudo invoke-rc.d bluetooth stop
[22:26] <MykeNY516> Anyone good with empathy that could answer a question: How do you change the timestamp on the very right of the message box to a 12hour format?
[22:26] <Losha> libertiy: did you not get a message from ubottu about being 'away'?
[22:26] <xangua> Spoils: did you enabled the extra repositorioes¿¿
[22:26] <j0k3r> update-rc.d -f bluetooth remove ; i think ;l
[22:26] <noqturnal1> Losha, llutz: Thank you guys so much, it now works. will this be a permanent solution?
[22:26] <llutz> noqturnal1: yes
[22:26] <coz_> taofd,   mm I am       stumped on this one
[22:27] <taofd> coz_, i think the functionality doesn't exist 6__6, but i wouldn't be surprised if the value is stored somewhere in gconf...
[22:27] <vinni_> anyone known actual repository problens,europe ?
[22:27] <Spoils> xangua:  no, mano... es que soy 'noob' y no se ni donde chingados hacer eso... me ayudas?
[22:27] <coz_> taofd,   mm you may be correct ...let me look in gconf hold on
[22:27] <arvigeus> LjL: Nope, no reaction (neigter an eror)
[22:27] <xangua> !es | Spoils
[22:27] <rinzai> hi everyone
[22:28] <coffee_> In Ubuntu 9.10 I dont see any user accounts except root. How do I modify user accounts?
[22:28] <j0k3r> how can i change the language in backtrack 4 ;l
[22:28] <LjL> arvigeus: well no reaction should mean it worked, shouldn't it?
[22:28] <moreia> Any insights on where to post bugs about screen capture/print screen?
[22:28] <Spoils> xangua:  grs
[22:28] <Losha> noqturnal1: you can read up on file permissions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[22:28] <llutz> !nacktrack > j0k3r
[22:28] <LjL> j0k3r: i suppose they probably know in the backtrack channel.
[22:28] <moreia> coffee_: Where are you looking for user accounts?
[22:28] <llutz> !backtrack > j0k3r
[22:28] <nada> can i ask Question in the terminal ???
[22:28] <arvigeus> LjL: No, means it done nothing
[22:28] <j0k3r> i'm new ;(
[22:28] <Spoils> xangua:  I can do it in English too.  I just noticed that you were a native Spanish speaker... where do I do that?
[22:28] <LjL> arvigeus, how do you know that?
[22:28] <Ahmed\> Well i get this error when the update finishes.... why ?
[22:28] <xangua> j0k3r: ask in #backtrack-linux, this is #ubuntu
[22:28] <Ahmed\> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com karmic Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[22:28] <coz_> taofd,   if you go to   gconf   /apps/panel/applets/clock_screen0
[22:28] <j0k3r> ok sorry
[22:29] <coffee_> moreia: Looking in system/ admin / users and groups
[22:29] <coz_> taofd,  maybe there are settings there
[22:29] <taofd> coz_, yeah i'm looking, played around with that entry, changed from "false" to "true" and vice versa, but it didnt work xD
[22:29] <arvigeus> LjL: Watching bluetooth-applet status
[22:29] <rinzai> I want to install emacs in text mode, but everytime I install it, it replace the graphical version :-S
[22:29] <j0k3r> brb
[22:29] <MykeNY516> anyone good with Empathy IM client?
[22:29] <rinzai> how do I install them side by side?
[22:29] <xangua> Spoils: system> administration> software origins
[22:29] <moreia> Coffee_:And if you "click to make changes"?
[22:29] <nada> what does the command (cut -d) do??
[22:29] <moreia> coffee_: on the keys, that is.
[22:29] <llutz> nada: man cut
[22:29] <Losha> rinzai: emacs will run in text mode if you invoke it as emacs -nw. Is that what you mean?
[22:29] <egc> cuts the d off
[22:30] <arvigeus> I'm trying to make external program for control
[22:30] <coffee_> moria: Clicked on make changes and just root shows up
[22:30] <kwtm> Hi!  How do I resume transferring a partially transferred file in KDE (or, failing that, command line)?  I was FISH'ing a 1.4GB file and got interrupted halfway.
[22:30] <Ahmed\> D Drive ? you meant
[22:30] <xangua> Spoils: in the fist tab enable all repositorioes (except for source code) ; then reload and install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:30] <llutz> egc: fail
[22:30] <coffee_> weird
[22:30] <moreia> Coffee_: the "Add User" button is greyed out?
[22:30] <xangua> Spoils: you can do it from terminal, synaptic or the software center
[22:30] <Losha> egc: less comedy, more support, please...
[22:30] <rinzai> Losha, :-S thanks! (haven't tried that)
[22:30] <egc> llutz: epicly
[22:30] <taofd> coz_, do you think it'll work if i restart x? usually gnome settings are instantaneous...
[22:30] <egc> Losha: roger
[22:30] <coffee_> moreia: Nope, I can do all functions except user accounts dont show up
[22:30] <mIrKaT> my ubuntu is acting up again
[22:31] <coz_> taofd,  that was going to be my next suggestion  at least for testing those settings
[22:31] <rinzai> Losha, works perfectly! thanks again :)
[22:31] <kwtm> nada: Did your question get answered ? (Other than being told to go find out yourself)
[22:31] <fumbles> my ubuntu is acting up...sounds like an ebkc
[22:31] <taofd> coz_, mm yeah, ill finish what i'm doing and restart x... i'll let you know how that goes xD
[22:31] <h00k> !sound | fumbles
[22:31] <Losha> nada: cut -d expects a delimiter i.e. a character it can use to tell where the columns start and end. See  man cut
[22:31] <moreia> coffee_: So no buttons are greyed out but you aren't seeing any users other than root listed?
[22:31] <coz_> taofd, cool
[22:31] <Losha> rinzai: excellent!
[22:31] <Spoils> xangua:  the first 4 options were already checked, mate
[22:31] <coffee_> moreia: Thats correct.
[22:31] <moreia> coffee_: who are you logged in as?
[22:31] <fumbles> h00k: lulz no I'm good
[22:32] <fumbles> h00k: error between keyboard and chair
[22:32] <xangua> Spoils: and it doesn't appear in synaptic¿¿
[22:32] <h00k> fumbles: ah, okay. pebkac
[22:32] <moreia> coffee_: if you click on  "Add User" and create a new users, does that user appear?
[22:32] <coffee_> moreia: Im logged in as my user account. Then I click on keys and provide root password and no users show up.
[22:32] <fumbles> heh
[22:32] <coffee_> moreia: Ill try that.
[22:33] <coffee_> moria: Newly created user shows up.
[22:33] <fumbles> anybody had success with grub2 and pcbsd after installing ubuntu 10.04?
[22:33] <Spoils> xangua: checking
[22:33] <joaopinto> !lucid | fumbles
[22:33] <h00k> fumbles: check for Lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[22:33] <coffee_> moreia: Newly created user does show up
[22:33] <fumbles> h00k: thanks
[22:34] <coz_> fumbles,  if no one can answer here you can try  #grub
[22:34] <fumbles> h00k: I don't think it would matter really though
[22:34] <fumbles> grub2 is grub2
[22:34] <moreia> coffee_: Huh. So you can create new users, but can't see old ones at all? I'm not sure what might be going on.
[22:34] <kwtm> file transfers!  Wonder how.  (Trying to drum up support for my question. :) )
[22:34] <h00k> fumbles: then /msg ubottu grub2
[22:34] <moreia> coffee_: what if you open terminal and give the "users" command?
[22:34] <Losha> kwtm: what *is* your question?
[22:34] <coffee_> moreia: Found problem. Somehow my user name does not belong to group and id number is wrong.
[22:34] <fumbles> pft ubottu provides no help
[22:35] <bondiblueos9> how can I set default permissions for a directory?
[22:35] <fumbles> already been there
[22:35] <coffee_> moreia: Thanks for helping me think this one thru!
[22:35] <kwtm> Losha: Thanks for responding.  Four minutes ago: Hi!  How do I resume transferring a partially transferred file in KDE (or, failing that, command line)?  I was FISH'ing a 1.4GB file and got interrupted halfway.
[22:35] <norbi905> Hello, I plugged in my external HDD through firewire, but I can't seem to find it as Ubuntu did not automount.  How can I go about searching for this drive?
[22:35] <h00k> fumbles: if you're using Lucid, the proper channel is still #ubuntu+1
[22:35] <moreia> coffee_: np.
[22:35] <Bisu[Shield]> anyone, where do I find the php error logs?
[22:36] <coffee_> brb
[22:36] <llutz> kwtm: try rsync
[22:36] <moreia> Sooo: anyone? My dual display screenshots are borked.
[22:36] <kwtm> llutz: Good idea.  WIll try. THanks.
[22:36] <templa[mobile]> This sounds really dumb. I have a application that needs to be installed with setup in colsole. there is a checklist, and I cant check items. I can move up and down, but cant select. enter just continutes the install
[22:36] <Razion> I launched a 3d app without installing video drivers...my resolution is all out of whack, and scrolls with my mouse. Any suggestions?
[22:36] <Losha> kwtm: llutz: uh, what's FISHing ?
[22:37] <llutz> Losha: filetransfer over ssh
[22:37] <barbarella> <Bisu[Shield]:/var/log/apache2
[22:37] <Some_Person> I'm downloading something with wget and it seems to have stalled
[22:37] <templa[mobile]> Razion restart X
[22:37] <Spoils> xangua:  Yes... it is now in synaptic
[22:37] <Losha> llutz: thanks. Seems obvious once it's pointed out. New terminology?
[22:38] <llutz> Losha: not really, better to use sftp now
[22:38] <moreia> Easier: how can i tell which version of gnome-utils I've got?
[22:38] <bondiblueos9> what does if ls -l shows a bunch of ???? instead of permissions, usernames, size, date/time, etc
[22:38] <barbarella> Some_Person:resume with the -c option, else check the url
[22:38] <llutz> Losha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files_transferred_over_shell_protocol
[22:38] <Some_Person> barbarella: How can I do that while wget is still running?
[22:39] <Losha> llutz: actually, I favor rsync myself too nowadays. Ah, thanks for the link...
[22:39] <jaydee> hey
[22:39] <Spoils> xangua:  I don't know how to add mp3 to the 'formato preferido' in rhythmbox...
[22:39] <Razion> What's the syntax for restarting X?
[22:39] <barbarella> Some_Person:crtl + c and rerun wget with the -c option
[22:39] <jaydee> can someone help installing ar928x driver on netbook
[22:39] <jaydee> ?
[22:40] <Some_Person> barbarella: Trouble: Microsoft doesn't generate the same download link every time
[22:40] <moreia> bondiblueos9: can mean a lot of things.
[22:40] <kwtm> Losha: File transfer over SSh.  Very ingenious: as long as you can log into a computer (via SSh), you can manipulate files remotely: upload, download, rename, etc.
[22:40] <Some_Person> barbarella: I used a firefox extension to pipe the download to wget
[22:40] <xangua> Spoils: ¿¿ :S have you already installed restricted extras¿
[22:40] <moreia> bondiblueos9: It happened to me when I'd done some bad things to permissions and turned off the execute flag on a directory
[22:41] <moreia> bondiblueos9: you can chmod your way out of it.
[22:41] <moreia> bondiblueos9: or sudo chmod.
[22:41] <Losha> kwtm: weird how you can go years and never hear of something. I'd never heard of it, and it been around for years...
[22:41] <barbarella> Some_Person:the data is still the same, so check the url
[22:41] <moreia> bondiblueos9: look at the permissions of the containing folder.
[22:41] <Some_Person> barbarella: The URL and file name would not be the same though
[22:41] <bondiblueos9> moreia: I guess I'll do that when I need to; I can still sudo to use the files
[22:41] <jaydee> is there someone who can help with installing ar928x driver on netoobk?
[22:42] <dotnetted> I want to mount /dev/sda5 to /data and then set /data/home to be the default /home directory - what's the best way of doing that?
[22:42] <moreia> bondiblueos9: is this happening in a lot of directories?
[22:42] <bondiblueos9> moreia: at least its just on an external data drive and not on my system or anything I actually need permissions on
[22:42] <barbarella> Some_Person:file not the same?
[22:42] <Some_Person> barbarella: Same file, different name
[22:42] <Ahmed\> Evolution mail doesn't refresh every 10 minutes HUH @_@ what do i do
[22:42] <bondiblueos9> moreia: no, actually, its just happening when I create a file on my zfs drive on my mac, then export the pool and import it on ubuntu
[22:42] <barbarella> Some_Person:what are you downloading if i may ask?
[22:43] <Some_Person> barbarella: Windows 7
[22:43] <moreia> bondiblueos9: I can't remember how I did that to myself, but I think no one owned the directory, or I'd removed the x permission from it or something.  Definitely related.
[22:43] <llutz> dotnetted: add it to /etc/fstab"/dev/sda5 /data ext4 defaults 0 0" and after tthat line"/home /data/home none bind 0 0"
[22:43] <Losha> dotnetted: the easiest way is to do the mount and then create a soft link from /home to /data/home e.g. ln -s /data/home /home.
[22:43] <Some_Person> barbarella: And no, it's not piracy. I'm getting it from Microsoft TechNet
[22:43] <barbarella> Some_Person:get the data from torrent
[22:43] <llutz> dotnetted: after tthat line"/data/home /home none bind 0 0"
[22:43] <llutz> dotnetted: sorry, typo
[22:44] <Some_Person> barbarella: That wouldn't be legal, and I don't trust torrents enough for something like this.
[22:44] <moreia> barbarella: I'm with Some_Person on this.
[22:45] <victor___> chicos como puedo configurar la cuenta de evolution para hotmail?
[22:45] <Losha> !es | victor___
[22:45] <Some_Person> !es | victor___
[22:45] <jrib> !away > jcrigby
[22:45] <dotnetted> llutz: thanks
[22:46] <dmichel1> hi all
[22:46] <jaydee> is there someone who can help with installing ar928x driver on netoobk?
[22:46] <barbarella> Some_Person:it depends if you have a legal serial but not the data
[22:46] <Some_Person> barbarella: I'm not getting it from a torrent
[22:46] <barbarella> Some_Person:it doesn't matter where you've got it from
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:47] <deken> what do you people think of the name "pyntt"?
[22:47] <dmichel1> im editing grub and i'm trying to get a list of my disk drives in the format of '	rootnoverify (hd0,0)', because my 'other' is windows, and i'd like to switch which hard drive windows boots from, but i dont know which one it is
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> can someone please tell me what: Installing 6 assemblies from libart2.0-cil into Mono
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> mean
[22:47] <bondiblueos9> deken: for a child?
[22:47] <dmichel1> how do i list my disk drives in that format, and not the partitions
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> it happens when i update, its not an issue, more a curiosity
[22:48] <deken> bondiblueos9: no in general
[22:48] <deken> software actually
[22:48] <jrib> dmichel1: what grub version?
[22:48] <dmichel1> jrib, not sure
[22:48] <jrib> dmichel1: what ubuntu version?
[22:48] <Losha> deken: I think #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place to discuss software naming...
[22:49] <bondiblueos9> dmichel1: I'm not sure how you list them like that, but I think it follows the pattern that hda1 is (hd0,0), hda2 is (hd0,1), hdb1 is (hd1,0), hdb4 is (hd1,3) etc
[22:49] <deken> Losha: thanks
[22:49] <dmichel1> ahh ok,
[22:49] <dmichel1> thanks
[22:49] <dsnettleton> Does anyone here know how I can determine whether my bluetooth adapter is bluetooth 1.2 compliant?
[22:49] <Traveler8> guys any idea..with broadcom wireless...on lubuntu...I installed b43 cutter and downloaded the drivers...but still no wifi
[22:50] <jrib> dmichel1: the procedure is different depending on which grub you are using.
[22:50] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip's clip & zoom options?
[22:51] <dmichel1> thanks so much guys
[22:51] <dmichel1> later
[22:51] <jrib> ...
[22:51] <barbarella> dsnettleton:lsusb
[22:52] <dsnettleton> Thanks
[22:52] <bastid_raZor> jrib: wow, i've never seen you do so much with so little.
[22:52] <Some_Person> barbarella: Getting from a torrent is a gamble though. Maybe you'll get an unmodified official DVD image, but maybe you won't.
[22:52] <nada> thanks lluts,kwtm and losha
[22:53] <kwtm> Hey, I didn't really help any, but you're welcome.
[22:53] <Losha> They also help, who only stand and don't clutter up the channel (with apologies to Milton)
[22:53] <hal1> what parameters do you pass at boot to boot from a fat partition?  ie the parameters at the end of /casper/vmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.lz  ?
[22:54] <barbarella> Some_Person:that's up to you if you trust it or not...but this is the ubuntu channel
[22:54] <domjohnson>  What is the command to open the Display dialog that lets me change my screen resolution?
[22:54] <Some_Person> domjohnson: gnome-display-properties
[22:55] <Vigo> How do I update the rkhunter database or check to see if it is up to date?
[22:55] <barbarella> Some_Person:this one is ok http://dl.btjunkie.org/torrent/Microsoft-Windows-7-Ultimate-Retail-Final-x86-32-bit-and-x64-64-bit/718569f5e4bc6570ddd81477880d0e1a53da8653012d/download.torrent
[22:55] <IdleOne> !warez
[22:55] <Some_Person> barbarella: For the last time, I'm not getting it from a torrent. And don't post piracy links in here
[22:56] <Losha> barbarella: you know, I think posting windows warez torrents might be offtopic in a ubuntu support channel...
[22:56] <IdleOne> it is offtopic on Freenode altogether
[22:56] <domjohnson> Cheers, some_person
[22:56] <barbarella> Some_Person:then go somewhere else with your microsoft
[22:57] <PeterFA> How do I create a list of packages that I can use to reinstall all the packages?
[22:58] <IdleOne> !cloning > PeterFA
[22:58] <xangua> PeterFA: you can do that from synaptic i believe
[22:59] <llutz> PeterFA: dpkg --get-selections
[22:59] <fosscon> how could I fill a directory with empty directories named hi0000, hi0001, hi0002... hi9999 quickly?
[22:59] <PeterFA> llutz, ok great
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> fosscon: i'd ask in #bash if nobody answers
[23:00] <PeterFA> IdleOne, I didn't see a private message.
[23:00] <fosscon> ok
[23:00] <Losha> PeterFA: see the man page for dpkg, the EXAMPLES section...
[23:00] <PeterFA> Oh
[23:00] <IdleOne> !cloning | PeterFA
[23:02] <roberto_> hola alguien que hable español?
[23:02] <norbi905> Hello, I'v been using 9.04 with GNOME for about a month now and feel pretty comfortable with it.  I would like to howerver change to the PekWM window manager.  How would I go about doing this?  A fresh install is prefered.  I'v also heard that GNOME is fairly "embedded" within ubuntu.  Would this break any functionality by switching to this window manager?  Any input is appreciated.
[23:02] <llutz> fosscon:  for i in `seq 0000 9999`;do mkdir hi$i;done
[23:02] <timeRunner> hi
[23:02] <timeRunner> is anybody out there?
[23:02] <Losha> !es | roberto_
[23:02] <roberto_> hi tineruner
[23:02] <ByteJuggler> no, all the people on the right are just your imagination ;)
[23:03] <timeRunner> wow! i have a huge imagination
[23:03] <timeRunner> haha
[23:03] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about when/why to clip & zoom in dvd::rip?
[23:03] <rocket16> Hello friends.
[23:03] <badp> Hello. I used to be able to connect to my wireless router with this laptop, up until I finally installed Ubuntu on it. Now I can scan successfully but "authentication" (my network is open) times out. Intel vendor, e100 driver, acpi off. What can I do?
[23:03] <fosscon> thanks llutz
[23:03] <ByteJuggler> norbi - I'm not familiar with pekwm but assuming its part of the repositories you can install it alongside gnome
[23:03] <Losha> fosscon: why would you need such a thing?
[23:03] <ByteJuggler> also gnome is seperate enough to be removed from your ubuntu box is you actually wanted to do that
[23:04] <ByteJuggler> I'm not saying its trivial
[23:04] <ByteJuggler> just that it can be done
[23:04] <RussellAlan> using name.com how can i redirect a domain to another?
[23:04] <fosscon> Losha, I'm testing a small app to print the folders in a directory
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> badp: use a wired connection and get fully updated
[23:04] <fosscon> I'd like to see if it's working with a lot of directories in it
[23:04] <xangua> !ot > RussellAlan
[23:04] <badp> done already ActionParsnip
[23:04] <PeterFA> Thanks all, problem solved.
[23:04] <Losha> fosscon: ok, makes more sense now...
[23:04] <fosscon> :)
[23:04] <badp> I am /using/ the wired connection now.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> badp: ok cool
[23:05] <quietone> my HDMI port has stopped working. Are there any tools that can help me figure out the problem? And I've only got 1 cable and 1 external display.
[23:05] <jaydee> is there someone who can help with installing ar928x driver on netoobk?
[23:05] <norbi905> ByteJuggler, apt-cache search does bring up the window manager.  However, doing it this way I am keeping GNOME on the system.  I guess what i'm looking for is similar to the way Gentoo does it's installation, where you decide what you want upon installation.  Thanks for your input though.
[23:05] <rocket16> I just compiled a most basic PDF on common Ubuntu Tricks and Tips. I would be pleased to find any person here, who can make a review of the free-Book. Here is the Link to download: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mawgzzzzz3t Also, even if you are not willing to review, you are welcome to download and read this small PDF (26 Pages). All advice are welcome. (Sorry if I might have been offropic).
[23:05] <RussellAlan> or wrong window =D
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> norbi: I know gnome stays on your disk, i'm suggesting that's perhaps easier initially
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> you pick the session to use on logon
[23:06] <xangua> rocket16: ¬¬................
[23:06] <rocket16> xangua: Yes?
[23:06] <xangua> rocket16: then why not use the !ot channel¿
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> (there's a drop down where you can then pick whether to use gnome, pek, xfce, kde ...)
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> you can then uninstall gnome
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> after you logged into pek
[23:06] <jeff_hann> rocket16, it's not a PDF
[23:07] <rocket16> xangua: Actually, the reason is that, the people there hate newcomers, and drive them away, :(
[23:07] <rocket16> jeff_hann: It is, it is just compressed to .zip.
[23:07] <jeff_hann> I uncompressed it, it's a ODT file
[23:07] <norbi905> ByteJuggler, thanks will give a try as soon as I back up my files from this installation.  Thank you.  By the way, where in my home folder is the file where X looks for the window manager to start?
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> norbi: If you really want to start from scratch, there's an ubuntu minimalist cd
[23:08] <jeff_hann> norbi905, .xinitrc
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> which installs basically just the core sytsem
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> no GUI
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> then you can install packages as you wish by hand
[23:08] <norbi905> ByteJuggler, that's probably what i'm looking for, will look into it thanks.  I will however give it a try the way you suggested previously.
[23:09] <ByteJuggler> sure
[23:09] <norbi905> jeff_hann, .xinitrc is not within my home folder :(
[23:09] <jeff_hann> norbi905, then write one
[23:09] <jeff_hann> norbi905, it's "exec <path to window manager>"
[23:10] <jeff_hann> it's that simple
[23:10] <rocket16> jeff_hann: Oops, sorry, :( I gave a wrong File. The link is http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yiykuzm0mjy Sorry, :(
[23:10] <ByteJuggler> norbi, I think gdm also remembers what wm you used
[23:10] <ByteJuggler> when you log in
[23:10] <ByteJuggler> i forget where though
[23:11] <jnss> hi how do i lock my screen
[23:11] <norbi905> jeff_hann, Thank you for that, however, in this case that .xinitrc does not exist, how does X know what to start?
[23:11] <jnss> i run gnome and intrepid
[23:11] <jnss> hope 8.10 is still supported
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: nice doc dude, i'd add simdock to your list of docks for those who dont use compositing
[23:11] <jeff_hann> norbi905, it takes the global settings from /etc/X11
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> jnss: not for much longer
[23:11] <jnss> but i was wodnering if there was a quick keycombo that will let me lock the sceren for when i take a pee or something
[23:11] <Faratl> I have downloaded virtual box and made a machine but it keeps telling me no bootable media found any suggestions?
[23:11] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Thanks, :D I will gladly add it to the PDF, :D
[23:12] <mattgyver> How could i reroute all audio (music, notifications) from one machine to another machine?  Can this be accomplished with MPD?
[23:12] <norbi905> Faratl, make sure you attach an .iso to the VM or boot it off the native CD/DVD rom drive
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Faratl: you need to config the box to boot an installation media to setup an OS on the box
[23:12] <domjohnson> Night, all
[23:12] <ttk1opc> super+l
[23:12] <bigga> i have a strange problem. is there any current known local root exploit un or very recently patched for ubuntu
[23:12]  * bigga would like root back
[23:13]  * bigga forgot his new password...#
[23:13] <jaydee> i need some help here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1460405
[23:13] <jaydee> PLZ!!!
[23:13] <OK_Then> Does anyone know when the new Ubuntu comes out?
[23:13] <Faratl> So I need to insert a cd to start up virtualbox
[23:13] <Pici> !lucid | OK_Then
[23:14] <OK_Then> Will it be OK to run on Wubi?
[23:14] <bigga> i could work out where the hash is on the disc, take it out, put it in another machine then write in new hash... yet only have 1 pc
[23:14] <Razion> I installed an application...And now I have no idea where it is. Is there a way to search for it?
[23:14] <Kajros> I am currently having problems with my audio working properly.  My speakers and headphones work fine in Windows 7 but when I boot up Ubuntu 9.10 only my speakers work and i can not get my headphones to work.  Any advice?
[23:14] <bigga> does grub provide any kind of disk editing
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Razion: check in alacarte, if its not there just try typing its name in a terminal
[23:14] <jeff_hann> jaydee, tried Google?
[23:14] <Pici> Faratl: You need to install an operating system from a disc or a disc image to use vbox.
[23:15] <Pici> !password | bigga
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Razion: use tab to complete, if it runs create a menu item using alacarte where you want it
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Faratl: a CD or ISO is fine
[23:15] <bigga> ubotto: i don't have sudo
[23:15] <bigga> i have a root account
[23:15] <arvigeus> 'rfkill unblock bluetooth' to fix bluetooth
[23:15] <jaydee> yes
[23:15] <Pici> bigga: Are you running Ubuntu?
[23:15] <Kajros> jaydee, download the driver from whatever website change to the directory of the driver and do a make then a make install in the terminal
[23:15] <bigga> yes and yes you can configure it like that way
[23:16] <bigga> by hand or with the debian installer disc
[23:16] <xplinux> if my ubuntu ylmf os is the same distro ubuntu but with other skin why i dont have support in  this site? http://picasaweb.google.es/112370194056728732538/DISTROYMLFOSXPUBUNTU910?authkey=Gv1sRgCOTTtqCWk_C5nAE#5463065604617397186
[23:16] <Losha> bigga: so do password recovery, per ubottu's message above...
[23:16] <jaydee> i get an error
[23:16] <jaydee> 1 2 and 3
[23:16] <bigga> Losha, my normal user has no sudo power
[23:16] <jeff_hann> jaydee, huh?
[23:17] <jaydee> what?
[23:17] <bigga> ahh rescue mode
[23:17] <jeff_hann> what do you mean by 1 2 and 3?
[23:17] <bigga> thanks for handy link
[23:18] <Razion> ActionParsnip: I get errors like crazy using alacarte... And it doesn't come up by typing it into the console. Any other ideas?
[23:18] <jaydee> error after within the command make
[23:18] <jeff_hann> jaydee, you're not helping me, you know
[23:19] <jnss> whyy doesnt lock screen LOCK MY SCREEN
[23:19] <jnss> it just never asks for a password
[23:19] <hehehe> can i use a single word for username?
[23:19] <jnss> waht the hell is up with thaty
[23:19] <jeff_hann> paste the exact error messages to pastebin.org, then paste the link
[23:19] <hehehe> *can i use a single letter for username?
[23:19] <Faratl> Can I download a cd image from ubuntu to get the virtual box to work
[23:19] <jeff_hann> hehehe, yes
[23:19] <Pici> Faratl: What OS do you want to run in virtual box?
[23:20] <Pici> !who
[23:20] <jeff_hann> hehehe, but not recommended
[23:20] <Faratl> OSE
[23:20] <hehehe> why?
[23:20] <Pici> Faratl: No.. What operating system do you want to run inside of virtual box.
[23:20] <jeff_hann> hehehe, security issues
[23:20] <Losha> hehehe: because it looks like a typo...
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Faratl: OSE ?
[23:20] <Razion> I installed an application...And now I have no idea where it is. Is there a way to search for it?
[23:20] <Faratl> Oh, windows XP
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Razion: can you otab complete its name in terminal?
[23:20] <Pici> Faratl: Then you need the Windows XP install CD.
[23:21] <Pici> Faratl: And a license for it.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> Faratl: then you will need a valid XP license and an install media
[23:21] <Faratl> Ok
[23:21] <hehehe> ok i will use a word then
[23:21] <hehehe> or name
[23:22] <Razion> ActionParsnip: No. I know the name of the application, but apparently it doesn't feel like existing/launching by its name.
[23:22] <techhelper1> i see, the cursur goes for like 5 seconds then nothing
[23:22] <techhelper1> cursor*
[23:22] <techhelper1> see if you run the app in terminal to see if it has errors
[23:22] <Losha> Razion: go to /var/cache/apt/archive and find the deb package for the application. Is it there?
[23:22] <hehehe> jeff_hann what if i use 2 letters?
[23:23] <hehehe> like initials
[23:23] <jeff_hann> hehehe, the more the better
[23:23] <Losha> hehehe: my regular username is 3 letters...
[23:23] <jeff_hann> hehehe, at least put a password that's hard to guess
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> Razion: what is the app's name?#
[23:23] <hehehe> yes ..
[23:23] <Kajros> I am currently having problems with my audio working properly.  My speakers and headphones work fine in Windows 7 but when I boot up Ubuntu 9.10 only my speakers work and i can not get my headphones to work.  Any advice?
[23:24] <Razion> ActionParsnip: Yes, the .deb package is there. And 3dchess. *Facepalm*
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> !3dchess
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> !info 3dchess
[23:24] <Razion> No, no. T_T; I'm trying to launch the damn thing. xD
[23:24] <hehehe> jeff_hann i mean if the password is strong why should i use a long username'
[23:24] <hehehe> ?
[23:24] <Losha> Razion: run dpkg -contents on the deb package. Look for anything with bin in the path...
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Razion: its on the repo dude. sudo apt-get install 3dchess
[23:25] <jeff_hann> not long as in 15 characters, but not 1 or 2
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> Razion: it will then add an entry in the applications -> games   menu
[23:25] <jeff_hann> I mean , why do you want the username so short? you won't have to type it often
[23:25] <Razion> ActionParsnip: That's how I installed it. No entry.
[23:25] <hehehe> because i cant change the username
[23:25] <Losha> Razion: run dpkg --contents <package>  <-- two dashes. Look for anything with bin in the path...
[23:25] <hehehe> i dont want to put someting definitive
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Razion: if you type 3 in a terminal, then press tab a few times do you get options?
[23:26] <Razion> ActionParsnip: Thanks. The launch name is 3Dc.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Razion: or it may be gnome-3dchess
[23:26] <quuxman> hi... I just installed Ubuntu 10.04, and the default configuration looks quite impressive. However, as soon as I tried to set up my standard configuration I got pretty frustrated with the boot process
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Razion: oic, sweet
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Razion: please log a bug too :)
[23:27] <hehehe> jeff_hann so i should more letters just because of attra
[23:27] <randomusr> whenever I try to arrange packages by Officially supported Ubuntu vs those without support or updates, synaptic freezes. Is this a known bug?
[23:27] <_Ba_> hi, I've installed 10.04 rc and my soundcard is installed too but have no sound
[23:27] <hehehe> * jeff_hann so i should more letters just because of attacks?
[23:27] <Razion> !3dchess
[23:27] <jeff_hann> hehehe, well, that's my 2 cents
[23:27] <randomusr> _Ba_, please join ubuntu+1
[23:27] <Losha> !lucid | quuxman & _Ba_
[23:27] <techhelper1> quuxman / _Ba_  join #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[23:27] <Razion> Hmm. Will it matter that I'm on KDE, for those 3d effects?
[23:27] <z3r0-c001> where do i go to talk about 10.04
[23:28] <Vigo> !Lucid
[23:28] <hehehe> jeff_hann is that important to "hide" username?
[23:28] <CaptainTrek> !lucid > z3r0-c001
[23:28] <z3r0-c001> yes... lucid
[23:28] <Vigo> lower case?
[23:28] <CaptainTrek> z3r0: check you Pms
[23:28] <Vigo> !lucid
[23:28] <CaptainTrek> Vigo: antiflood.  you posted it after someone else did
[23:28] <jeff_hann> hehehe, not necessarily; just common security practice
[23:29] <CaptainTrek> Vigo: antiflood.  you posted it RIGHT afterwards
[23:29] <Vigo> CaptainTrek: Thank you
[23:29] <hal1> after copying the livecd to a partition on the laptop, I have managed to boot to a busybox command prompt.  Do you know how I can run the install process?
[23:29] <Losha> hehehe: depends who you're defending against. If you have an internet facing server, attackers have to guess both username & password to get in. Why make it easier for them?
[23:29] <hehehe> jeff_hann ok but if i my name for username it will
[23:29] <hehehe> it doesnt secure
[23:29] <jeff_hann> hehehe, Losha said it better than me
[23:30] <z3r0-c001> i seen that already is there a general chat session where i can talk about itn on irc
[23:30] <mps> #lisp
[23:30] <techhelper1> hal1 that is not how it works
[23:30] <techhelper1> what are you trying to do
[23:30] <techhelper1> if you are just doing the install, then run the cd as is
[23:30] <hehehe> jeff_hann i cant find what he wrote :\ paste pls
[23:31] <hal1> techhelper1: hi there - the dvdrom does not work
[23:31] <Losha> hehehe: depends who you're defending against. If you have an internet facing server, attackers have to guess both username & password to get in. Why make it easier for them?
[23:31] <hehehe> tks
[23:31] <jeff_hann>  hehehe: depends who you're defending against. If you have an internet facing server, attackers have to guess both username & password to get in. Why make it easier for them?
[23:31] <CaptainTrek> heh
[23:31] <jaydee> its me again
[23:31] <jeff_hann> :)
[23:31] <jaydee> madwifi
[23:31] <techhelper1> hal1 if you have windows on their, their are options like downloading wubi
[23:31] <hal1> techhelper1: so I have copied the livecd to a partition,and made the partition bootable and now I want to run the install process
[23:31] <techhelper1> and running it like that
[23:31] <zaxonspox> hal1 Create a LiveUSB Pen
[23:31] <jaydee> o
[23:31] <jaydee> bo
[23:31] <techhelper1> that as well ^
[23:31] <z3r0-c001> is there a general chat channel for ubuntu
[23:31] <jaydee> no
[23:32] <techhelper1> this would be it
[23:32] <Losha> z3r0-c001: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:32] <hal1> techhelper1: neither of those options are possible - this laptop willl not boot from a USB device
[23:32] <z3r0-c001> tnx
[23:32] <jaydee> jeff what was the link like for pasting srccode
[23:32] <hehehe> but when i say username i dont refer to the name im refering to that @name
[23:32] <techhelper1> did you totally start fresh?
[23:32] <hal1> techhelper1: is there any other way?
[23:32] <techhelper1> does it have windows on it at all?
[23:32] <jeff_hann> jaydee, pastebin.org
[23:32] <hal1> techhelper1: surely there is a way without windows?
[23:32] <hal1> I can't use windows
[23:33] <hal1> what other options are there?
[23:33] <techhelper1> network booting but that is a whole other realm
[23:33] <Shizuo> THANK YOU GUYS
[23:33] <hal1> I need to boot from one partition to install to the rest of the disk
[23:33] <zaxonspox> hal1 take the laptop hdd to another pc, and install there tubuntu, then put back hdd into laptop
[23:33] <Vigo> hal1: CLI
[23:33] <techhelper1> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[23:33] <hehehe> jeff_hann Losha is that name after "@" the username? like root@USERNAME
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> hal1: use a floppy disk to boot from a usb stick, the floppy will be the bootable device but will kick off the usb stuff for you  :)
[23:33] <hehehe> .:P
[23:34] <Losha> hal1: So you don't have windows, your cdrom is broken and you don't have usb? Is that right?
[23:34] <hal1> ActionParsnip: there is no floppy!  ;-(
[23:34] <hal1> yes
[23:34] <hal1> Losha:
[23:34] <zaxonspox> hal1 take the laptop hdd to another pc, and install there tubuntu, then put back hdd into laptop
[23:34] <jeff_hann> that is the hostname
[23:34] <jeff_hann> aka <user>@<username>
[23:34] <Losha> hal1: so how did you copy from the install dvd to a partition?
[23:34] <jeff_hann> sorry
[23:34] <hal1> Losha: on another machine
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[23:35] <jeff_hann> *user
[23:35] <Vigo> ah, ok,,,
[23:35] <hehehe> jeff_hann oh yes.. so i was always talking about hostname
[23:35] <hal1> zaxonspox: I do not want to install over my main PC
[23:35] <zaxonspox> hal1 why? it is no problem, it will work after switching hdd back to laptop
[23:35] <Losha> hal1: I think you want to use unetbootin: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  See the 'frugal install' option
[23:36] <hehehe> jeff_hann when i install ubuntu it creates a hostname based on USER right?
[23:36] <hal1> Losha: that is how I copied the files from the cd to the partition
[23:36] <simun> hello
[23:36] <jeff_hann> hehehe, no
[23:36] <hehehe> thats why i wanted to use a letter for USER so it would be the same for hostname
[23:36] <Losha> hal1: you might've mentioned that 10 minutes ago...
[23:36] <delac> hehehe: yes. something like user-desktop
[23:36] <hehehe> then i would change the USER
[23:37] <zaxonspox> hehehe you can change the hostname even with your normal username
[23:37] <simun> can somebody help me?
[23:37] <hal1> zaxonspox: it is not guaranteed to work because the autodetect process during install on the PC will not have loaded the correct drivers for the laptop
[23:37] <Vigo> hal1: Did you try a NetInstall?
[23:37] <hal1> Losha: I did - a number of times over the last few hours
[23:37] <jaydee> so how i use pastebin?
[23:37] <Vigo> !pastebin
[23:37] <Losha> hal1: I must've missed it, sorry...
[23:37] <hehehe> zaxonspox but then it will rename folders right..?
[23:37] <zaxonspox> hal1 once i did that and all have worked
[23:37] <Jordan_U> hal1: Almost all hardware detection is done at boot.
[23:37] <hal1> Vigo: I am trying to find an easier way
[23:38] <Jordan_U> hal1: The only exceptions being things that you need to configure yourself, like proprietary drivers.
[23:38] <hal1> I just find it really difficult to understand why what I want to do is not possible
[23:38] <zaxonspox> hehehe what folders? there is a folder constaining the hostname, you only change that entry
[23:38] <hal1> it has all the files there that it needs - from the livecd
[23:38] <hal1> why can't it just boot from that partition and install?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> hal1: You need a bootloader, have you installed one?
[23:39] <Vigo> hal1: Ok, here is the link if you want it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[23:39] <nsadmin> perhaps because there's not an installer present?
[23:39] <kitche> hal1: because you need a boot loader to understand on how to boot from that partition
[23:39] <hal1> thanks vigo - I will try that once I have exhausted other options
[23:39] <Subby> Hi, do I need a new sources.list für Releas Candidate 10.04? Because I don't get any new updates the last days
[23:39] <hehehe> zaxonspox what i want to do is like this (username)@(letter) dffsdffs@x i.e
[23:39] <nsadmin> I mean, they could have done it... but maybe they didn't
[23:39] <hal1> kitche: surely anything that is done at the bootloader can be done at the boot CLI?
[23:40] <Flamey> Any idea why video playback gets really choppy after I've played FlightGear, only gets back to normal after I reboot.
[23:40] <hal1> it's just parameters for initrd, isn't it?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> hal1: You can't get to a CLI without having a bootloader.
[23:40] <Losha> Subby: ask on #ubuntu+1
[23:40] <hal1> Jordan_U: I can get to the boot: menu, and I can get to the busybox cli
[23:41] <Jordan_U> hal1: What did you pass for the root= parameter?
[23:41] <zaxonspox> hehehe the hostname is in file /etc/hostname
[23:41] <hal1> Jordan_U: good point - I didn't!  ;-)
[23:41] <hehehe> so my last question is: can i change hostname easily?
[23:41] <hal1> Jordan_U: I used this to boot tho...
[23:41] <Jordan_U> !hostname | hehehe
[23:42] <hal1> -->  /casper/cmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.lz
[23:42] <delac> hehehe: READ THIS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=774029
[23:42] <hal1> damn
[23:42] <hehehe> tks Jordan_U
[23:42] <hal1> -->  /casper/vmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.lz
[23:42] <zaxonspox> hehehe if you set a normal username and after that change the hostname name it could looks like username@x
[23:42] <hehehe> k i got it
[23:42] <hal1> Jordan_U: do I need a root parameter to get it to run the install processes?
[23:42] <ByteJuggler> hal1: the problem is those files are inside the ISO image...
[23:43] <ByteJuggler> you need an initrd to get bootstrapped enough to be able to mount the ISO
[23:43] <ByteJuggler> (I think)
[23:43] <hal1> ByteJuggler: no, the livecd iso has been extracted - the partition looks exactly the same as it would if you browse the livecd
[23:43] <ByteJuggler> ah
[23:43] <Jordan_U> hal1: The kernel is loaded by the bootloader, so it's only the bootloader that knows where the root filesystem is unless you pass a root= paramerter, like root=/dev/sdb1
[23:43] <ByteJuggler> ic
[23:44] <Jefferson> i ai
[23:44] <bobby_> Anybody here not using Lucid?
[23:44] <Jefferson> pessoal
[23:44] <Pici> bobby_ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[23:44] <ByteJuggler> bobby: well, depends on your definition of "use"
[23:44] <jaydee> jeff?
[23:44] <nsadmin> hal1: do you have the install guide? if you're finding that people who are around at the moment can't help you with the exact custom flavor with all the specific bells and whistles you want on your special install, maybe you can piece together your own solution from the install guide
[23:44] <hehehe> delac tks for the link
[23:44] <jeff_hann> jaydee, I ask this for the 3rd time
[23:44] <ByteJuggler> bobby: but yes (although the others are rapidly diminishing)
[23:44] <jeff_hann> ask in the channel
[23:45] <Losha> bobby_: diehard 8.04 user here...
[23:45] <hal1> nsadmin: I know what you mean, but I really don't need any "bells and whistles" apart from it to start the install process
[23:45] <ByteJuggler> (also still have 8.04 hardy on my main "server" box)
[23:46] <nsadmin> but you're still having problems finding people that know how to do what you're interested in doing?
[23:46] <ByteJuggler> hal1: frankly, if i was in your shoes, i'd do a minimalist install using another pc
[23:46] <ByteJuggler> on the disk in question
[23:46] <ByteJuggler> (e.g. the laptop disk)
[23:46] <ByteJuggler> and then boot from that and install further by hand
[23:47] <hal1> ok, what is /isolinux/isolinux.bin?
[23:47] <ByteJuggler> (I might even do a full install -- Linux is very good at "just working" on alternate hardware)
[23:47] <nsadmin> what is the deal exactly... no net to the laptop? can't boot a cd?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> hal1: Not usefull for you.
[23:47] <ByteJuggler> nsadmin: yes
[23:47] <nsadmin> so no net AND can't boot a cd?
[23:47] <ByteJuggler> nsadmin: essentially -- no cd, no usb, not sure about network
[23:47] <zaxonspox> hal1 linux is POSIX standard compatible, use you PC with Laptop HDD to install Ubuntu. It will work
[23:47] <Jordan_U> hal1: Try setting root= before anything else.
[23:47] <ByteJuggler> nsadmin : no floppy either
[23:48] <hal1> nsadmin: no DVDROM, no floppy.  Yes, there is the net, but that is a hassle to set up, so I would rather avoid it
[23:48] <hal1> Jordan_U: what should I set it to?
[23:48] <Jordan_U> zaxonspox: POSIX has nothing to do with hardware compatability.
[23:48] <jaydee> jeff?
[23:48] <Losha> hal1: hassle is relative. You're not exactly having an easy time of it now...
[23:48] <jeff_hann> jaydee, yes
[23:48] <nsadmin> so you want to avoid the ways that would create ease for the helpers
[23:48] <hal1> Losha: no, but I am not giving up
[23:48] <nsadmin> how much money you got?
[23:48] <jaydee> fially
[23:49] <hal1> nsadmin: how is that relevant?
[23:49] <jaydee> how do i use pastebin?
[23:49] <jeff_hann> did you go to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[23:49] <jaydee> i paste the error in the box there and noW?
[23:49] <Losha> jaydee: nothing to it. Go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com, type something in, hit submit, then tell us the url
[23:49] <jaydee> NO PASTEBIN
[23:50] <jaydee> oh thanks
[23:50] <nsadmin> jaydee: do you see your paste on the site
[23:50] <jaydee> im new sry
[23:50] <jeff_hann> jaydee, the url = the address
[23:50] <benkevan> http://www.freetechie.com/blog/warning-change-your-google-account-password/ < Change your passwords peeps
[23:50] <Razion> How do I find out what my video card is in Linux? :P
[23:50] <jaydee> thx
[23:50] <jeff_hann> Razion, lspci -vv | grep VGA
[23:50] <zaxonspox> Razio sudo lspci | grep VGA
[23:50] <Jordan_U> hal1: /dev/sdXX, where XX is the drive, a letter where the first drive is a, the second b etc and a number (the partition number, in your case probably 1)
[23:51] <jeff_hann> Razion, no need for sudo
[23:51] <Razion> jeff_hann: Yeah, I know. It just gave me a list of options...Which one shows me what card it is? :P
[23:51] <hal1> Jordan_U: thank you, I will try that!  But what exactly will start the install process?  What file will be executed?
[23:51] <jeff_hann> did you type exactly as I said?
[23:52] <merlin2049er> hey, anyone know how to burn a (.bin or .cue) file?
[23:52] <Razion> jeff_hann: Nope. xD Forgot the pipe.
[23:52] <zaxonspox> Razion dont use -vv use simple lspci
[23:52] <Jordan_U> hal1: If all goes well you will be brought to a full live Ubuntu system with an install icon on the desktop.
[23:52] <jeff_hann> zaxonspox, why should he not use '-vv' ?
[23:53] <ByteJuggler> hmm, nero image eh?
[23:53] <Razion> Well. It didn't come up with -vv anyways.
[23:53] <merlin2049er> no
[23:53] <Razion> -vv gave me a cryptic list.
[23:53] <merlin2049er> i got brassero
[23:53] <merlin2049er> and gnome bake
[23:53] <Razion> Ugh. it's an onboard. So how the heck do I find a driver for it?
[23:53] <jeff_hann> ok, use without -vv :-)
[23:53] <jeff_hann> what board is it?
[23:54] <zaxonspox> jeff_hann: beacuse i always get the name of video card by simple lspci, now i tested your cmd and didnt see name of my video card
[23:54] <jaydee> is it right now>
[23:54] <jaydee> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/5fGEDs6X
[23:54] <hal1> Jordan_U: if that works, how could I then install ubuntu onto the rest of the disk?
[23:54] <jaydee> ?
[23:54] <jeff_hann> zaxonspox, the line before the last is your card
[23:54] <ByteJuggler> merlin: I think brasero supports cue files
[23:54] <ByteJuggler> merlin: so you should be able to use it
[23:54] <Jordan_U> hal1: You're going to have problems installing to the same disk you are booting from.
[23:55] <hal1> hmm :-/
[23:55] <Razion> It's a P4M80 [S3 unichrome Pro]
[23:55] <jeff_hann> jaydee, put 'sudo' in front of 'make'
[23:55] <zaxonspox> jeff_hann: ok, but not line from last, i get 5th from the last
[23:55] <jaydee> its the same message
[23:55] <jeff_hann> jaydee, then put su -c make
[23:55] <ByteJuggler> hal: If you leave enough free space for a new instalaltion partition
[23:55] <ByteJuggler> you should be ok
[23:55] <ByteJuggler> even if it's teh same disk
[23:56] <ByteJuggler> (touch wood)
[23:56] <jaydee> i try
[23:56] <FloodBot4> ByteJuggler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <Jordan_U> hal1: You don't have any flash drive?
[23:56] <ByteJuggler> lol@floodbot4
[23:56] <hehehe> jeff_hann "what is your name
[23:56] <hehehe> jeff_hann "what is your name "
[23:56] <jeff_hann> hehehe, sorry?
[23:56] <hehehe> sorry.. jeff_hann "what is your name?" is the hostname
[23:56] <hehehe> right?
[23:56] <jaydee> asking for a password
[23:56] <ByteJuggler> jordan_u: he has no usb, no cd, no floppy, only net (which is a hassle to set up)...
[23:56] <Razion> My mobo is a It's a P4M80 [S3 unichrome Pro video]. So where might I find a linux driver for it?
[23:57] <hehehe> jeff_hann im installing ubunu..
[23:57] <hal1> Jordan_U: yes, but I can't boot from it
[23:57] <jeff_hann> jaydee, well, enter the password
[23:57] <hehehe> jeff_hann im installing ubuntu.
[23:57] <Pici> hehehe: No, it wants to know what your name is.
[23:57] <jaydee> which?
[23:57] <jeff_hann> hehehe, type in your name
[23:57] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about when/why to clip & zoom in dvd::rip?
[23:57] <hehehe> ok but it will use that name for hostname?
[23:57] <hehehe> just asking
[23:57] <Pici> hehehe: No, it will prompt you for the hostname
[23:57] <hehehe> hm ok
[23:58] <Pici> Losha: I'd be happy to explain in -offtopic
[23:58] <jeff_hann> jaydee, wait; type in another terminal window 'sudo su -c passwd' then choose a password
[23:58] <Jordan_U> hal1: You don't need to be able to boot from it, you just need to put the iso (*not* the contents of the iso) on it.
[23:58] <jeff_hann> jaydee, then type that password
[23:58] <jaydee> ok
[23:58] <hehehe> and login name is the username@
[23:59] <zaxonspox> hehehe yes
[23:59] <delac> hehehe: yes
[23:59] <delac> hehehe: and the username-desktop is the hostname
[23:59] <delac> hehehe: but you can change it
[23:59] <hal1> Jordan_U: I don't understand - how would that work?
[23:59] <hal1> Jordan_U: what would I do then?
[23:59] <jaydee> its the same error again
[23:59] <abstrakt> where are hotkey settings?
[23:59] <jeff_hann> jaydee, impossible
[23:59] <Jordan_U> hal1: Then you can pass the parameter iso-scan/filename=/path/to/iso to the kernel and it will load itself from the iso file on the flash drive.