[03:40] Could someone recommend a program, besides GIMP and Pinta, that is good for... digital painting? [03:40] Photoshop is expensive:P [03:40] (and sadly doesn't work with wacom, on linux, if I use layers :P) [03:43] Basically use paintbrush and smudge a lot, and need layers, preferably doesn't use Mono *gag* [03:58] lifestream, krita is good for digital painting i believe [03:59] http://www.koffice.org/krita/ [03:59] Krita ? :P Hmm...:-) I'll try [04:00] I also just found Alchemy, MyPaint [04:02] krita is a KDE application, so it will bring in a lot of KDE libraries, which may mean something to you if you are running gnome, maybe not [04:02] Using openbox [04:03] But have VLC installed, so a bunch of libraries might already be installed [04:05] Also found Artweaver :P Didn't know there were so many choices [04:07] Oops, no Artweaver is windows. Gee so many new choices *tries them* [08:44] good morning [08:54] hello AutoStatic [08:54] good morning rlameiro [12:07] I love gmusicbrowser! [13:19] MobiusJedi: it apears a nice app [19:18] Hi everyone [19:18] <_pg_> hello! [19:18] I've just installed ubuntu studio for the first time yipiii! [19:18] <_pg_> does anyone know the upgrade path for 9.10 x64 studio to Lucid? will there be problems with the RT kernel? I hear lucid doesnt have rt kernel. [19:19] _pg_: i suggest trying the generic kernel [19:19] <_pg_> holstein: how do I do that? [19:19] iv e heard the latency is great [19:20] you can always add the RT on later if necessary [19:20] <_pg_> holstein: let me back up. why do I even want an rt kernel? [19:20] _pg_: low-latency [19:20] <_pg_> holstein: is that only used in audio? [19:20] if your not doing audio recording [19:20] <_pg_> holstein: or just quicker all around? [19:20] you probably wont need it [19:20] nah, not quicker [19:20] _pg_, youll probably be able to upgrade the usual way or burn the ISO and get a fresh install [19:21] <_pg_> holstein: where do I choose what kernel? at login? [19:21] different priorities [19:21] _pg_: in lucid, the grub menu is hidden [19:21] check out [19:21] !grub2 [19:21] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [19:21] you can probaly just press escape [19:21] and get to the grub menu [19:21] I have an Edirol FA-66 audio card. Do you know how I can see if it's recognized by the system? [19:21] does anybody now what's gonna happen with the rt kernel in lucid? [19:22] since it's not being supported in ubuntu [19:22] BUT upgrading should be find _pg_ , and you should get the generic kernel AFAIK [19:22] <_pg_> holstein: thanks! will try [19:22] furenku: the word is RT is not default [19:22] but in the repos [19:22] furenku: you should try the generic one though first [19:23] holstein: thanx, but i already did, and i'm getting quite a lot of xruns [19:23] furenku: OH [19:23] even with a high latency, that's why. but i'm not being able to boot into a newly installed rt kernel [19:23] well, try the RT one [19:23] did you install it? [19:24] linux-rt? [19:24] holstein, i'm trying to try it lol i'm however too blind to understand how to boot into it [19:24] OK [19:24] check out [19:24] holstein, i mean, i understand grub2 [19:24] hmm [19:24] but any changes i make in /default/grub seem to no avail [19:24] you dont see the menu when you boot? [19:24] not at all [19:25] do you know how to enable that? [19:25] try pushing escape [19:25] that'd be great help [19:25] ok [19:25] when you think you should see it [19:25] now that i think about it [19:25] i have the same issue on my EEE [19:25] do you know any other way of enabling it other than that? [19:25] in lucid [19:25] i did what i thought would un-hide it [19:25] and it didnt [19:25] and the escape trick works for me [19:26] after that, i forgot it was an issue [19:26] furenku: we should look for a bug on launchpad [19:26] ok i'll retry it now, i'll come back and let you know what happened [19:26] holstein, thats a good idea [19:27] i had a couple of nasty bugs, and i just forgot about that one [19:28] BIAB guys... [19:28] what's biab btw? [19:30] _pg_ so, just gonna try rebooting into rt kernel, i found a tool called startupmanager that seems to help choose which kernel to boot to in grub2, i'll let ya know [19:30] <_pg_> furenku: please do [19:30] <_pg_> furenku: preciate it [19:54] _pg_: i'm now running 10.04 lucid with -rt kernel, firewire audio seems to be running ok (i'll let it playing for some minutes and see what happens -- till now no XRuns). [19:54] furenku: W00t [19:54] good news [19:54] holstein, yes. [19:56] holstein, to be able to boot into -rt kernel , you have to modify /etc/default/grub to have the following in the first line: GRUB_DEFAULT="Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.31-10-rt" [19:56] changing the GRUB_DEFAULT to a number strangely did not work at all [19:56] <_pg_> furenku: awesome blossom. Im tackling that a different day, but will come back here when I inevitably run into issues! ;-] [19:56] oh! forgot to say. first you have to apt-get install linux-rt [19:56] lol [19:57] <_pg_> furenku: but if im not using audio production, just upgrading normally I can use the defaiut kernel with no modifying correct? [19:57] oh, if you're not interested in the rt kernel then there's no problems at all [19:57] hahha [19:57] _pg_ is upgrading from karmic [19:57] running the RT kernel right now [19:58] BUT i think you'll get the default lucid set-up [19:58] <_pg_> furenku: someone led me to believe that RT>not RT like x64>x32 for just raw speed [19:58] <_pg_> *slams face into computer* [19:58] <_pg_> that was a nightmare [19:58] _pg_: that upgrade will take quite a while [19:58] <_pg_> holstein: ok what is the syntax? [19:59] <_pg_> holstein: sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-studio-desktop-x64 or something [19:59] can I install ubunstu on a thumb drive from the dvd? [20:00] i use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [20:00] <_pg_> helo: yezzir. ubuntu startup disk creator [20:00] <_pg_> holstein: all one loine? [20:00] <_pg_> line* [20:00] but i think you can run update-manager -d or something like that [20:01] * holstein looks [20:02] i have no dvd drive, so i will try to install it through virtualbox... [20:02] helo: ive had issues with that [20:02] well, no blank dvd ;) [20:02] oh... hmmm [20:03] using unetbootin to create a bootable ubuntustudio install USB stick [20:03] any iso with the alternate text installer [20:03] seems to fail when locating the image [20:03] i have a USB DVD drive, so i havent been motivated to find a work around [20:04] yeh _pg_ , update-manager -d [20:04] that will lauch the normal update manager [20:05] and show a distribution upgrade available [20:05] helo: you can install from a normal lucid live CD [20:05] and add the ubuntustudio meta-packages [20:05] ahhhh, perfect... thanks :) [20:06] will that set up jackd, qjackctl, and amsynth? [20:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu [20:06] helo: it will install them [20:06] 'set-up' is a matter of opinion ;) [20:07] depends on your gear really [20:07] helo: you dont need all the ubuntustudio packages really [20:07] heh... i've been using jackd without -rt with passable results for practicing (just a usb 88-key midi controller that i'm learning on), but occasionally i get some clicks and pops [20:08] you can just install jack and whatever else you need [20:08] on an intel atom [20:08] helo: COOL [20:08] the main thing i'd like to try is a -rt kernel [20:08] is that a generic kernel in karmic? [20:08] actually it's debian sid, but yes: just the generic kernel [20:09] you can probaly just sudo apt-get install linux-rt [20:09] BIAB [20:10] it would be great if i could get my netbook to run well... my midi controller is usb powered, so it is a relatively portable setup [20:26] helo, did you install ubuntustudio on your netbook already? [20:38] tucemiux: nope, only debian sid [20:39] i'm going to try my thumb drive with ubuntu beta2 with linux-rt [20:39] that should give similar results [20:40] helo, try netbook remix, goo luck! [21:37] Hi! [21:38] Whats with Ubuntu Studio Karmic login screen ? [21:38] why its so ugly ? [21:38] how can i install login screen from Hardy ?