[01:26] <Omega> Hello everyone.
[01:59] <islington> If I have an SVG wallpaper should I still make render for different resolutions? Both kde and gnome seem to handle svgs as wallpaper fine.
[11:49] <thorwil> mpt: http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2010/04/22/dont-talk-about-users/  is about building ux principles into project infrastructure. specifically heuristic evaluation. i have been thinking along similar lines, recently. though i would want to start at the beginning, offering a service to manage design starting from a briefing/mission statement.
[14:44] <sandy|lurk> hey folks, not sure who to ping, but I saw a thread on ayatana-list suggesting the adoption of Giver, and as the only person capable of making a Giver release I wanted to make sure you folks knew that it's pretty much a dead project
[14:44] <sandy|lurk> would be much more useful if it worked over telepathy instead
[14:46] <sandy|lurk> as for Tasque, adding a couchdb backend (if that were really necessary) should be easy, and in a few months mario intends to release a feature that lets you keep all of your tasks synchronized between multiple backends, so that would help
[15:01] <qense> sandy|lurk: Will you make sure that Tasque saves the notes in a generic format that can be used by other task applications as well? That way it's very easy to reuse the data in other applications without having to use a dozen of exporters and importers.
[15:02] <sandy|lurk> qense: another thing that's yet to be done is actually caching tasks for offline use...the plan is to use a sqlite db for this
[15:02] <qense> ok
[15:02] <sandy|lurk> anyway, I'm really not involved in tasque dev anymore
[15:03] <sandy|lurk> just wanted to make sure nobody wasted time on Giver :-)
[15:06] <qense> sandy|lurk: OK, thank you for telling, I'll keep it in mind in case someone says (s)he will adopt it.
[15:06] <qense> I'm subscribed to the list of adopted packages, so that should be no problem.
[15:14] <jcastro> sandy|lurk, the zeroconfing telepathy transfer works awesome with empathy, it's just not obvious in the UI to people so I think they think they need something like giver to transfer files quickly
[15:14] <jcastro> the time is probably better invested in fixing the discoverability in empathy
[15:14] <sandy|lurk> jcastro: totally agree with that
[15:14] <sandy|lurk> jcastro: also, hi!
[15:15] <jcastro> heh
[15:15] <sandy|lurk> jcastro: can you not just drag-and-drop from nautilus onto a contact in empathy/
[15:15] <sandy|lurk> ?
[15:15] <jcastro> yep
[15:15] <jcastro> you totally can
[15:15] <sandy|lurk> heh
[15:15] <jcastro> no one knows that though
[15:15] <sandy|lurk> lol
[15:15] <jcastro> plus we don't set up your zeroconf account by default, after you set up your gtalk or whatever we prompt you for the name
[15:16] <jcastro> but it's some window with that crack bear-looking soul-staring icon
[15:16] <sandy|lurk> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Pedobear ?
[15:17] <jcastro> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Avahi-logo.png
[15:17] <jcastro> this one is worse!
[15:17] <sandy|lurk> hahahahahaha
[15:17] <sandy|lurk> oh my god
[15:17] <sandy|lurk> I have never seen that
[15:17] <jcastro> it's the avahi logo
[15:21] <qense> jcastro: Setting up the Bonjour/Salut/Zeroconf account would be a nice task for a possible welcome screen or introduction druid/wizard.
[15:21] <jcastro> or just turn it on by default.
[15:21] <qense> jcastro: By the way, you did notice that the fix for Banshee.AppIndicator landed today?
[15:21]  * jcastro doesn't say that too loud
[15:21] <jcastro> qense, I am upgrading now!
[15:21] <qense> good!
[15:21] <jcastro> nice
[15:22] <jcastro> this fixes it on my one computer
[15:22] <jcastro> it worked on my laptop but not the other one for some reason
[15:23] <qense> That can only be due to not having upgraded recently or due to a polluted installation. ;)
[15:23] <jcastro> my main pc is always in various states of disrepair, heh
[15:27] <hyperair> qense: did you fix the notify-osd lag already?
[15:28] <qense> hyperair: I just pushed the fix.
[15:28] <qense> really just a minute ago :)
[15:28] <hyperair> qense: heh i saw the email =p
[15:28] <qense> I was about to mark the bug as Fix Committed on Launchpad.
[15:28] <hyperair> i got the bug watch added email
[15:28] <hyperair> so i figured you might have done something
[15:29] <qense> I reported the bug upstream so I could reference to it in the commit message.
[15:29] <jcastro> bah
[15:29] <jcastro> dude the xchat m-i plugin is definately crashing for me 
[15:29] <hyperair> qense: banshee's upstream changelogs also reference LP: #
[15:29] <qense> jcastro: When clicking links also? I had that.
[15:29] <qense> hyperair: how?
[15:29] <qense> ah, LP: #
[15:30] <qense> :D
[15:31] <hyperair> guilt format-patch. this is what happens when you try to type git and quilt at the same time. =p
[15:31] <qense> Freudian typo
[15:31] <hyperair> heheh