[00:00] er [00:00] okay, i guess it found the drivers on its own, or whatever [00:00] but the test page isn't printing [00:00] hpijs? [00:01] oh wait... [00:01] no, it's still the foo driver [00:01] hpijs is for my all-in-one, my laserjet is foo =p [00:01] okay [00:02] will apt-get remove hpijs work? [00:02] if you don't want it [00:03] well [00:03] i mean [00:03] i seem to be worse off now [00:03] and the only thing that's really changed is that i installed hpijs [00:03] because now nothing is printing [00:03] that -shouldn't- cause any issues though.. [00:04] arguably, i suppose i'm just back to where i was when this printer came out of the box in february [00:04] you're right, it shouldn't [00:04] but [00:05] apparently this entire problem was either precipitated by the fact that the printer ran out of paper in the middle of a job or because i switched my graphics cards drivers to a proprietary one to get compiz to work [00:05] both of those things seem equally unlikely to cause this problem [00:05] but [00:05] those are the only two things that changed [00:05] especially the graphics driver, haha [00:05] yeah, i know [00:05] but really [00:05] this always happens to me [00:05] printers randomly stop working sometimes [00:06] might not be related at all [00:06] hm... [00:06] things mysteriously break and i can never fix it on my own and it pisses me off [00:06] yeah, i suppose [00:06] the joys of printers [00:06] i'm trying to see if there are any bug reports about this.. [00:08] hm, this is a possibility: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/407244 [00:08] so i guess run 'hp-plugin -i' [00:10] alrighty [00:12] Downloading firmware to device hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_P1006?serial=AC2F78F... [00:12] error: Device busy: hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_P1006?serial=AC2F78F [00:12] error: unable to open channel [00:12] error: Device busy: hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_P1006?serial=AC2F78F [00:12] error: unable to open channel [00:12] error: Channel write error [00:12] error: An error occured: Device I/O error [00:12] Done. [00:13] is the printer plugged into the usb right now? [00:15] yes [00:16] idk if it's supposed to be or not... [00:17] can you look at the last comment on that bug report? (er, second to last...the one with instructions) [00:17] yeah, i saw it [00:18] try the instructions on there and see what happens for you [00:18] i did something like that last night, selecting the usb option [00:18] but i'll try it again [00:20] i'm not really given an option to select the driver [00:20] but it selects xqx anyway [00:21] as long as it selects the foo driver [00:21] yeah, but it's not printing [00:21] any errors? [00:21] the error light isn't on [00:21] nope [00:22] is there other stuff in the job queue? [00:22] the print queue says it's "Processing" [00:22] nope [00:22] and now the print queue just closed out [00:22] great... [00:22] and says there's no outstanding jobs [00:22] lol, oh this is so ridiculous [00:22] does the printer show up as connect in Printing? [00:23] connected* [00:28] yeah, it did [00:28] but i installed it and i'm trying this again, which worked a few months ago: http://foo2xqx.rkkda.com/ [00:29] sigh [00:29] but no longer, apparently [00:30] now what's happening? [00:30] now we're back to the same "Unable to write 8192 bytes to the printer!" [00:30] error [00:30] in the printer manager or the dialog if i try to print something [00:31] but last time it would print anyway [00:31] but it doesn't seem to be this time [00:31] cancel all jobs, disconnect and reconnect the printer, then try again [00:33] okay, error light goes back on, i open the close the printer, the error light goes away, the unable to print 8192 error still shows up and no printing is happening [00:33] *open and close [00:34] huh... [00:34] and now a "printer may not be connected" message just came up [00:34] although it is [00:36] is your system fully up-to-date? [00:36] unplugged/replugged, the may not be connected error shows up again, i cancel out the job, the printer status is "busy, will retry in 5 minutes..." even though there's no job [00:36] yeah [00:36] emg@che:~/foo2zjs$ sudo apt-get upgrade [00:36] Reading package lists... Done [00:36] Building dependency tree [00:36] Reading state information... Done [00:36] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [00:36] emg@che:~/foo2zjs$ [00:37] this one report says to run 'sudo rmmod usblp' although i honestly don't know what it will do [00:39] huh, i just ran hp-check -t again [00:39] and i got this, which is new: Summary of needed commands to run to satisfy missing dependencies: [00:39] sudo aptitude install --assume-yes cupsddk cupsddk-drivers [00:39] sudo aptitude install --assume-yes policykit policykit-gnome [00:39] so i installed all of that [00:41] any effect? [00:41] i'm installing it again [00:41] rmmod apparently removes modules from the kernel [00:42] i dont really know what that means but it sounds kind of scary [00:42] wheee [00:42] this time i got "unknown error 1018" [00:42] at least that's new [00:42] i guess [00:47] -sigh- i'm at a loss... [00:48] the only thing i can think of is disconnecting the usb, turning off the printer, deleting the printer in Printing one more time, then turn the printer on, connect the usb, and let it try autosetup again...otherwise idk [00:48] me too. i just tried running hp-setup from the terminal, and i got a device communication error 5012, which i feel like i got before [00:50] i'm not sure that autosetup is working anymore, to be honest [00:51] it should =\ [00:55] nope, only manual config i think [00:56] i tried forcing a firmware update before a manual config and it said that no such supported device existed [00:57] and then i tried after i set it up manually and i got: error: Device busy: hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_P1006?serial=AC2F78F [00:57] error: Unable to communicate with device or device is in an error state. Please check device setup and try again. [00:58] does that happen if you turn the printer off and on? [00:58] while keeping the usb plugged in? [00:59] hahahaha [00:59] i just shut it down and a message popped up: test page has completed printing!" [01:00] we wish, haha [01:50] my VGA monitor keeps shutting off and it won't wake up; sometimes unplugging either the power or the vga cale helps, sometimes not, sometimes it just wakes up on its own. DPMS is turned off. how can i make it stay on? my DVI monitor does not have this problem (the are the same model monitor, switching the inputs helped for about 5 minutes) [02:03] Hi! There is something I need to fix for me to enable to login from console. When I booted ubuntu from recovery mode and went to logon from console it kept on asking for the username & pwd How can I fix this ? [02:07] anybody here ? === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [02:57] Hello [02:57] Alright, so I have a few questions about installing ubuntu [02:57] So you want to install ubuntu on an ole '98 machine? [02:57] Yep! [02:58] The machine refuses to connect to the internet right now, because of a mix of it being over ten years old & virus covered [02:58] I'm a beginner myself, but will try to help, and pls if there is someone else here, plz chime in! [02:58] I'm on a mac right now, but do have access to a windows xp machine if necessary [02:58] Thank you haywire :) [02:59] I have installed xubuntu here on some of my older machines...it is sort of a stripped down version more suited for older machines with low system requirements. [02:59] Nice, I'll search for it now! [02:59] i'm here too and i can try and help but i'm kind of a beginner too [02:59] Hello GotQuestions and haywire :) [02:59] and emgomez :) [03:00] hi swoody [03:00] Gotquestions: Swoody is awesome and helped me with a desktop login problem! [03:00] Hi swoody, thanks for offering your help :) [03:00] Nice! [03:00] GotQuestions: was there anything in particular you were curious about, or just looking for a good bit of advice for the new install? :) [03:00] Well, I really know nothing about installing OSs [03:00] so basically everything! [03:01] Do I download Xubuntu on my mac? [03:01] *to [03:01] GotQuestions: well my friend, you've come to the right place :) [03:01] GotQuestions: you need to download the .iso file to any computer that you can burn a disc from [03:02] Alright, do I need any special burning software or just regular burning? [03:02] GotQuestions: you need to make sure it has the option to 'Burn .iso' or 'Burn disc image' [03:02] we don't want the audio or data options here :) [03:03] Ah! I'll check if I can download Nero burning ROM [03:03] GotQuestions: here's a couple guides that may be of use to you as well: [03:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/index.html [03:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation [03:04] more specifically, this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall [03:05] swoody: thank you so much [03:06] GotQuestions: np, and obviously don't be afraid to ask questions freely in here :) [03:07] swoody: I got a stupid question about this (xchat) utility itself...how do your replies to me (etc.) end up in red? Do you have control over that? [03:09] haywire, it's because swoody is typing your handle [03:10] and the default is for it to alert when someone says your name [03:10] egomez: so is my reply like this red on your screen? [03:10] well, it would have been, except my handle is eMgomez [03:10] but what you can do is type the first or second letters and then hit tab [03:11] and the handle will automatically pop up, assuming you typed in enough letters [03:11] sri sri typo... and the answer was so simple it eluded me... beating head on desk now... [03:11] haha, it's okay [03:11] haywire: yes, it's called hilighting :) [03:11] i'm sure you can fiddle in settings and disable the alert if you don't want to be bothered [03:11] emgomez, no, it's very helpful, i think [03:11] haywire: you can setup other terms to hilight in the settings of xchat, like "HayWire" or "hay wire", etc. [03:12] and the tab tip, too! [03:12] right, or just any other particular words that you might want to know when people are discussing [03:13] swoody, if you're in a helpful mood, can i ask you to take a look at the syslog for my printer? it's here: http://pastebin.com/prVt1YGr [03:13] swoody: Thanks again for steering me to the help forums to resolve my .gdm issues here... now I got my autlogin working, GRUB is dual-booting me to xp home or xubuntu, display is configured for its 1360x768 native display, life is good. [03:14] oops, here was my message before you peered out: swoody, if you're in a helpful mood, can i ask you to take a look at the syslog for my printer? it's here: http://pastebin.com/prVt1YGr [03:15] ddecator was super helpful and we worked at it for a couple hours but didn't manage to find a solution. and i'm in the middle of downloading the iso to see if the printer works with the livecd === swoody_ is now known as swoody [03:17] emgomez: you have Ubuntu installed already? [03:17] oh, yeah [03:17] i think i've been using it for three years now [03:18] but i'm still not very good at all at fixing things when they break [03:18] emgomez: gotcha. And your printer doesn't work right now? [03:18] nope [03:18] alright, obscure question for mac users: [03:18] emgomez: ok. Did you install any drivers for it, or have you been using plug-n-play up until now? [03:18] Actually, proabably any users [03:19] I'm putting the disk image onto the program Burn [03:19] Should I 'mount' it? [03:19] GotQuestions: are you just burning the image to a CD? [03:19] Yes, I want to use the CD as a boot disk [03:19] So I'm not sure if I mount it or not? [03:20] GotQuestions: then no, you don't need to mount it, just burn it to disc :) [03:20] unless Mac is different about that... [03:20] humm... [03:20] swoody: Once again, you're the man [03:20] swoody, yes, definitely. when i first bought it, plug n play didn't work. it's an HP laserjet P1006, which caused problems for some people. i followed the instructions here (http://foo2xqx.rkkda.com/) to use the foo drivers and the printer worked great until two days ago [03:20] I doubt it would be different.... (I hope) [03:20] We shall see :) [03:21] emgomez: did anything change when it stopped working? Upgrade versions of Ubuntu, change drivers, anything out of the ordinary? [03:22] swoody, when it ran out of paper in the middle of a print job. i couldn't clear the error light/make the printer believe it had paper again. i removed and then upgraded hplip, which made it briefly work again today, until we installed hpljs, partially because even with the hplip reinstall, when i would print a pdf, it would print the first page of the document and then stop and the error light would go on, until i opened [03:22] up the printer and closed it again (no jam or anything, just an open/close) and then it would print the rest of the document [03:23] the only two things that happened were the running out of paper in the middle of a job, which had actually never happened before. and i changed my graphics drivers to a proprietary one to get compiz to work [03:23] also, perhaps solar flares. [03:23] or an act of god [03:23] gotcha :) [03:27] emgomez: did you install the HPlip GUI? [03:27] try it with: sudo apt-get install hplip-gui [03:28] then run it: gksu hp-setup [03:28] should i remove the existing hplip first? [03:28] emgomez: you could if you'd like. I'm not sure if it will interfere or not... [03:29] luckily all my printers have been plug-n-play :/ [03:29] 'lo all [03:29] Well that didn't work [03:29] yeah, i have terrible luck with peripherals [03:29] i must have been cursed at birth [03:29] GotQuestions: what didn't work out? [03:30] When I started the computer, I went into BIOS and booted from CDROM first, then from E [03:30] And neither worked :( [03:30] The booting with the disc in [03:30] emgomez: well be thankful it's at least an HP. It could be much worse in Linux ;) [03:30] GotQuestions: any errors from BIOS when trying to boot from CD? [03:31] Just said Boot From CDROM: Failure ... [03:31] The ... was included in the error message [03:31] swoody i got a "Firmware download to device failed." [03:31] GotQuestions: what architecture is your computer- x86, amd64? [03:31] emgomez: hmm... [03:32] No idea, how do I find out? [03:32] Swoody: ^that was to you [03:32] GotQuestions: well, which version of Ubuntu did you download, the default 32 bit version? [03:33] is there a software for linux like visio 2003 [03:34] Yes [03:34] I was thiking about downloading xubuntu, but didn't because I already had ubuntu downloaded and it would be another hour [03:34] it's the server version though [03:36] When I put on UBUNTU, I dragged it in as a disc image [03:36] That was correct, right? [03:36] Can I erase a swap partition while logged into Linux? [03:37] GotQuestions: yeah, you need to burn it as a disc image. Have you tried booting from that CD in another computer? [03:37] No- I can back out as it starts if it works, right? [03:37] GotQuestions: or I would try re-burning the image again, this time changing the burn speed to as slow as it will go. This will ensure that any errors while burning are kept to a minimum [03:38] GotQuestions: yeah, you can quit any time :) [03:38] Thanks, I'll try it & pray the parental units don't get angry :/ ;) [03:39] GotQuestions: well if you just boot from the disc, and don't go through the *entire* install process, you're not going to make changes on the computer :) [03:39] so no worries there [03:41] This is going to be a major hassle. I think I have to reinstall Windows and Ubuntu both... :( [03:41] swoody and Gotquestions: I think he may have done what I did one time... simply copied the .iso file onto the CD... that will not work. GotQuestions, can you look at the CD you just burned and tell us what fileneame(s) you see there? [03:42] mika__: what's the matter? [03:42] mika__: and yes, you can shutoff your swap, and then remove the partition.... [03:42] I would check first to make sure you're not using any of the swap: free -m [03:43] then if you're not, you can turn off the swap partition with: sudo swapoff -a [03:43] Half of my hdd is unallocated, and Disk Utility won't let me create a NTFS partition on it. I was saving that space for a partition which both Windows and Linux could use. [03:43] It says there are too many primary partitions. [03:44] mika__: how many do you have right now? You can only have 4 on a hard drive [03:44] emgomez: not finding too much help with this one :/ [03:44] emgomez: the only things I've come across as from HP: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html [03:45] I started with an empty drive, and installed Windows first. Then I installed Linux, with a separate swap partition. [03:45] emgomez: also: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html [03:45] But apparently Windows 7 automatically creates a 100 mb boot partition as well. [03:45] swoody the juggler [03:45] swoody, i actually caved in and bought the stupid warranty for 15 dollars when i bought this. i have a feeling this is a hardware problem that's not allowing the firmware to update appropriately. i'm going to see if the tech people will cave and replace it [03:45] stlsaint: :) [03:45] emgomez: have you tried this printer on other computers or OS'es? [03:46] WELL, funny you should ask [03:46] because this laptop was supposed to be a dual boot, but vista apparently freaked out about being dual booted [03:46] and then i have a little netbook that runs netbook remix [03:46] mika__: ah, I see. Then yeah, you'd need to do as I mentioned above, but if you don't have enough RAM to run your system without swap, the 'solution' may be a bit more in-depth [03:46] so i'm flying windows free right now [03:47] i'll go try the netbook though [03:47] emgomez: well that's very good to hear :) [03:47] If I remove the swap partition, which is a logical partition, can I then use the empty space to create another swap AND a data drive? [03:48] mika__: so you're going to have two versions of Windows and Ubuntu installed? [03:48] No, just one of each, and a separate drive just for data that both can access. [03:48] mika__: or are you just going for Win 7 and Ubuntu? [03:48] mika__: seperate drive, or *partition*? [03:48] Partition [03:49] sorry. [03:49] mika__: np :) [03:49] mika__: well, IIRC there's also a way to install Win7 without using two partitions... [03:50] that way you can have one Windows, one Ubuntu, one swap, and one shared data partition [03:50] mika__: or if you'd rather leave Win 7 how it wants to install, you'd probably have to lose the swap :/ [03:51] Hmm.... [03:51] Can Ubuntu use the / partition for swap? [03:51] no, it has to be seperate :/ [03:52] Damn... [03:52] If I remove the Windows installation, and then reinstall it, it's going to overwrite the boot configuration... [03:53] we could go with extended partitions here, but I *think* Ubuntu at least needs it's /boot as a primary... [03:53] mika__: yeah, then you'll just need to re-install Grub, but that's not hard with a liveCD [03:54] I may have to do that, much as I dread to... [03:55] I'm trying to get my built-in webcam recognized by my laptop, and I think I have to "clone a repository" (I have no idea what this means). how do I do that? [03:55] Since Ubuntu always sniffs any existing OSs and is kind enough to add them to its boot config, I've never messed with grub [03:55] Windows just plows right over everything... [03:55] mika__: it's Windows, that's what they're good at ;) [03:56] what is a alt for visio in ubuntu [03:56] Is there a difference between a /temp and a /swap partition? [03:56] with how demanding their OS is, I'm suprised so many people pay tons of $$ for it :/ [03:57] mika__: yes, your /temp is where data is stored that is needed temporarily by your system, swap is for running programs/apps that require a good amount of info to be at hand. So the two are completely different in how they work and what they're used for [03:57] swap (basically) is extra memory, just like the pagefile on Windows [03:57] Zero, I don't know the answer to that one, but you should check out alternativeto.net; you can look up an app in Win/Linux/Mac and see what alternatives there are, their ratings etc. [03:59] In that case I'll be sure to leave the swap alone, or at least recreate it. [03:59] Thanks for your help, Swoody. [04:00] mika__: well, like I mentioned, if you have enough RAM to run without it, it's not absolutely neccesary, but it is good measure to have one :) [04:00] mika__: ok, new plan :) [04:00] Yeah, I'm going to do some video editing and image manipulation, so it's best to have it there just in case. [04:01] mika__: use the partition that Ubuntu is installed in now, and create an extended partition with it. You can then create root, home, swap, and any other partitions you'd like for Ubuntu as extended ones :) [04:01] then you'll still have 2 primary partitions for Win7, and one for data [04:01] mika__, should look like [Windows][{/}{Swap}{Home}][Data] [04:02] change your existing ubuntu partition into an extended partition, then create the logical partitions (usually root swap and home) inside it [04:02] hey whats the commadn to find out info about wireless card? [04:03] is it iwconfig? [04:03] yes [04:03] stlsaint: ifconfig or iwconfig [04:03] if config gives general network info [04:03] iwconfig gives wireless specific info [04:03] can anyone help me with this repository thing? [04:04] sorry, i missed what repository thing it was [04:04] I'm trying to get my built-in webcam recognized by my laptop, and I think I have to "clone a repository" (I have no idea what this means). how do I do that? [04:04] Can the Ubuntu root partition be changed from primary to logical (if that's even doable) without ruining the installation? [04:04] no idea what that means either... [04:04] mika__, no [04:04] clone a repo....i think you are confused about something [04:04] hgd4th: ^^ [04:05] hmm so how do I make use of whatever is on this website: http://bitbucket.org/ahixon/r5u87x/ [04:05] hgd4th: are you aware what a repository is? [04:05] no [04:05] mika__: some more info on extended partitioning :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ExtendedPartition [04:05] mika__, you can however back up the content of your root partition with something like clonezilla then restore it into the new partition [04:05] Would it retain all my apps and AWN settings etc? [04:05] hgd4th: in a nut shell the repos is where you download all your software from in synaptic package manager [04:05] other options are symantec ghost, and acronis truecopy [04:05] mika__, yes [04:06] Vantrax: rsync couldn't do it? Like how you can move other partitions? [04:06] swoody, boot track issues [04:06] ah, gotcha :) [04:06] rsync just does raw data [04:06] rsync is what you would use just to copy your home drive for example [04:06] stlsaint__, so do you know how I could install this: http://bitbucket.org/ahixon/r5u87x/ [04:07] hgd4th: in that site you are only grabbing the various files in accordance with what the subject is... [04:07] swoody, alright, printer tried on a second system, fairly identical failure. it just acts as if no data was sent to it and eventually the system returns a "printer may not be connected" message, even though it is physically connected [04:07] hgd4th: running that command: hg clone http://bitbucket.... will get you a dir with various files in it i believe [04:07] mika__, those technologies create a copy of your partition data and allow it to be restored later. You will likely have to do a grub-update from the liveCD after restoring so that grub can find its new partitions and update [04:07] emgomez: that is odd... Since the netbook is fresh, and doesn't have any drivers installed, have you tried installing hplip on it? [04:08] emgomez: like the HP site outlines [04:08] hgd4th: if you feel safe with that site than you can run the command in your terminal [04:08] I just tried that but it returned "hg: command not found" [04:09] but won't that backup be lost when the partitions are removed and redone? [04:09] I was linked to that site from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams it said the driver on that site "supports many VAIO" webcams [04:09] hgd4th, you might have to do sudo apt-get install mercurial before hg will work [04:09] swoody, well, right. that's what i did. i plugged it in, hoping for autosetup but i got the message "this printer requires proprietary drivers, please run hp-setup" so i installed the whole hplip shebang, using the official hp drivers but no dice. then i tried the foo drivers. still nothing [04:10] mika__, it makes a copy onto another device as a file [04:10] so you can copy the drive to an external HDD for example [04:10] and it would have a disk image file containing that partition [04:10] mika__, google symantec ghost and look at the explanations of how it works [04:11] hgd4th: kk, that command will prolly download the driver than [04:12] emgomez, have you looked at http://127.0.0.1:631/ [04:12] and tried setting it up through there with a generic postscript driver [04:12] Vantrax: you know how i can tell what type of wireless card i have? [04:13] erm, ill just check [04:13] stlsaint: lspci | grep -i Network [04:13] sweet === DAYSE_ is now known as pedro3005 [04:13] nobody saw that [04:13] dayse????? [04:14] i would try lspci [04:14] I typed sudo apt-get install mercurial in the terminal and it returned "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unalbe to lock the administration directory (/varlib/dpkg/), are you root? [04:14] or dmesg to show you everything that the kernel detects [04:14] hgd4th, make sure you dont have update, or synaptic running [04:14] hgd4th: do you have update manager or Synaptic open? You need to close those for now to use another package manager [04:15] Vantrax, i'm not really sure which driver to pick for a generic postscript driver [04:15] or, to be honest, what to do with it once i find it [04:16] if you go to add a printer [04:16] you will get to the point where you can choose a driver and there will be an option for a generic driver or postscript driver [04:17] thats the cheap and dirty way to get you up and running, it wont give you advanced features but you should be able to print [04:17] emgomez, http://127.0.0.1:631/admin click the add a printer button to get started [04:18] Vantrax, mmm, i need a username/pass? [04:18] its your local admin username and pass [04:18] the one you can sudo to root with [04:18] Thank you very much for your help guys! You're great! [04:19] alrighty [04:19] mika__: it's np :) Feel free to drop in again if you come up with other questions :) [04:19] mika__, happy we could help you [04:19] Thanks!! [04:19] Vantrax, there's actually two P1006 printers listed in cups [04:19] HP LaserJet P1006 (HP LaserJet P1006) [04:19] HP LaserJet P1006 USB AC2F78F HPLIP (HP LaserJet P1006) [04:20] what do you know eh [04:20] try those [04:20] well, but which one? [04:20] nice, it looked like that command worked [04:20] is it connected via usb [04:20] i mean, the printer at issue is a 1006, but i only have one [04:20] yeah, via usb [04:20] now to see if my webcam works... [04:20] then use the second one [04:20] alrighty [04:20] hgd4th: that's great to hear :) [04:21] ah, still nothing [04:21] thanks for your help though [04:22] you should be getting closer [04:22] hgd4th: are you getting any other error messages now? [04:22] what did the rest of the wiki say [04:22] huh [04:23]