| RAOF | My mail's still downloading (see above discussion about internet caps) so I might not be entirely up to date, but yes. Roll-back post RC. | 00:00 |
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| rickspencer3 | hehe | 00:00 |
| RAOF | C'mon internode. Process that “Please give me more bandwidth” payment… | 01:03 |
| TheMuso | It takes up to 90 minutes to do it afaik. | 01:11 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: Yeah. | 01:13 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: you should have speed again... :p | 01:38 |
| bryceh | pitti, glx revert xserver package is uploaded for your review | 01:38 |
| bryceh | pitti, I have a few other severe xserver bug fixes, but I decided not to include them in this upload so we could focus on getting this one in asap | 01:39 |
| bryceh | pitti, for the others, I'm still waiting on a few test results but the fixes look worth including as SRUs at least | 01:39 |
| bryceh | pitti, if you'd like me to include the fixes together with this upload, let me know and I'll rejigger them in | 01:40 |
| bryceh | (the other two bugs are 539772 and 553647) | 01:40 |
| jjardon | Hello! Can everyone add new blueprints for maverick? | 02:57 |
| jjardon | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?searchtext=desktop-maverick | 02:57 |
| RAOF | I'm off to collect the keys to our new home! (and have lunch ;)). | 03:43 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: have fun. | 03:58 |
| TheMuso | c | 04:32 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:26 |
| RAOF | Good morning! | 07:27 |
| pitti | bryceh, RAOF: ah, I was going to start a discussion about rolling back vs. RAOF's patch now, but seems you guys beat me to it :) my gut feeling is that we should upload the rollback to final and RAOF's real fix to -proposed; WDYT? | 07:27 |
| pitti | bryceh: two bugs> hm, there's zero margin for error now, so I'd rather have them in the first SRU upload (which will be pretty early, I figure?) | 07:30 |
| RAOF | I think that's the right idea; the rollback is safer and we want to be really sure about the fix, because if it's incomplete it'll mean X crashes. | 07:30 |
| pitti | RAOF: oh, new home? | 07:30 |
| RAOF | pitti: Yah! | 07:30 |
| pitti | RAOF: agreed, thanks | 07:30 |
| pitti | new release, new house, that fits! | 07:30 |
| pitti | bryceh: I added a lucid task to 553647 | 07:31 |
| RAOF | Our first very own house. It'll be awesome. | 07:32 |
| pitti | bryceh: your X upload also included bug 519049; how sure are you about this? | 07:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 519049 in xorg-server ""xauth generate" with large timeout triggers assertion" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/519049 | 07:35 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:49 |
| pitti | hey didrocks | 07:50 |
| didrocks | Guten Morgen pitti, how are you? | 07:50 |
| pitti | didrocks: tres bien, merci! et toi? | 07:52 |
| didrocks | pitti: very good French. Sorry that I can't do the same in German ;) I'm fine, thanks! | 07:52 |
| seb128 | hey hey there | 08:51 |
| pitti | bonjour Monsieur Bacher! | 08:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, guten tag! | 08:54 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:55 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks ;-) | 08:55 |
| seb128 | didrocks, bonne soirée ? | 08:55 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va, c'était sympa merci! :) | 08:56 |
| * seb128 has slept well and ready for a good work day | 08:56 | |
| didrocks | seb128: et toi? | 08:56 |
| seb128 | nickel | 08:56 |
| didrocks | heh | 08:56 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| didrocks | ubuntuone synchronize nothing here… u1sdtool hangs too. Let's hop logout/login will fix this… | 10:12 |
| didrocks | (having the same thing on my netbook isn't a very good sign) | 10:13 |
| huats | Hello everyone | 11:01 |
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| vish | seb128: hi.. could we get an update for Humanity , it seems broken for kde users Bug #566996 , the symlinks are causing a problem there | 12:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 566996 in humanity-icon-theme "Humanity in KDE does not display volume icons." [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566996 | 12:16 |
| vish | SRU update rather ;) | 12:16 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| qense | hyperair, seb128: Thank you for the fix for Indicator Application. It has finally landed today! | 13:02 |
| hyperair | \o/ | 13:02 |
| hyperair | finally! | 13:02 |
| seb128 | qense, np, thanks the people who did the work I just uploaded ;-) | 13:03 |
| pitti | ccheney: wrt. https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-openoffice, there's a WI for "check status of OpenOffice.org translations: | 13:05 |
| pitti | ccheney: is that still actually relevant? | 13:05 |
| pitti | didrocks: is the remaining task on https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-quickly still relevant? | 13:10 |
| pitti | didrocks: also, would you mind having a look at https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-quickly-templates and either dropping the WIs there or moving them to a maverick spec? | 13:11 |
| milanbv | what's the way to get a bugfix release uploaded, now that we're in freeze? waiting for a SRU after Lucid is out? | 13:14 |
| milanbv | (that's for system-tools-backends 2.10.0, fixing a few crashers and bad bugs) | 13:14 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson_, asac: bug 443147 is marked for final, is that still realistic? or should we move to SRU? | 13:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 443147 in firefox "Firefox on ARM inappropriately adds scroll bars to many frames and images" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/443147 | 13:20 |
| chrisccoulson_ | pitti - there is a workaround already in bzr, but i wasn't planning to do another upload before the 3.6.4 release in May (the lucid branch is already tracking the 3.6.4 update) | 13:22 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i don't know if asac wants to upload that before final though | 13:22 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson_: ok, let's wait for him to answer then; thanks! | 13:22 |
| didrocks | pitti: sorry, was eating :) All my WI are finished. I'll put rick's ones to DROP | 13:23 |
| pitti | didrocks: were were also some from Shane? | 13:24 |
| didrocks | pitti: right, updating the status for him too | 13:25 |
| didrocks | DROPPED is valid, right? | 13:25 |
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| pitti | didrocks: thanks; yes, DROPPED is the new preferred status name for "dropped, not moved" | 13:34 |
| didrocks | ok, thanks :) | 13:35 |
| pitti | Riddell: would you mind updating https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus for Kubuntu? Thanks! | 13:36 |
| Riddell | pitti: will do | 13:38 |
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| asac | chrisccoulson_: i asked you to upload a cherry-pick | 13:42 |
| asac | just wasnt sure something else should be there | 13:43 |
| asac | please go ahead | 13:43 |
| chrisccoulson_ | asac - ok, i can do that. the only issue is though that the lucid branch is already updated to 3.6.4 | 13:43 |
| asac | chrisccoulson_: right thtas why cherry-pick | 13:44 |
| asac | branch last upload | 13:44 |
| asac | cherry pick my commit | 13:44 |
| asac | release | 13:44 |
| asac | merge that branch into the .head again | 13:44 |
| chrisccoulson_ | asac - ok, i will do that this afternoon. did you see my other question in #ubuntu-mozillateam earlier? i have a fix for the hardy dailies to push, and wasn't sure if i have to start a new version number in the changelog now (i assume that the answer is yes) | 13:51 |
| asac | chrisccoulson_: where would you commit that to? | 13:56 |
| asac | to .head? or do we have stable branches? | 13:56 |
| chrisccoulson_ | asac - to .head for now. the only stable branch for 3.6 currently is lucid | 13:57 |
| chrisccoulson_ | (and that would fix the dailies wouldn't it?) | 13:57 |
| asac | chrisccoulson_: yes. the top most commit is stil UNRELEASED? then just commit there | 13:59 |
| asac | chrisccoulson_: just dont include it in the cherry pick release for the armel issue | 13:59 |
| asac | chrisccoulson_: i think we should get the armel fix up asap ... btw. otherwise slangasek will be really unhappy | 13:59 |
| chrisccoulson_ | asac - that was the issue. the last commit changed it from UNRELEASED to lucid, and i wasn't sure if that was intentional or not (and if i need to start a new version number to push my commit) | 14:00 |
| asac | chrisccoulson_: i did that? | 14:01 |
| asac | wow | 14:01 |
| chrisccoulson_ | asac - you did ;) | 14:01 |
| asac | thats a bug ... just flip back to UNRELEASED on next commit ;) | 14:01 |
| asac | i didnt do a release commit i hope ;) | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson_ | asac - i was thinking about that, then i remembered what you said about the dailies breaking ;) | 14:02 |
| asac | no thats fine | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson_ | so i wasn't sure if i'd break them | 14:02 |
| asac | just UNRELEASED ... all should be ok | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson_ | ok, i'll flip it back to UNRELEASED then | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson_ | thanks | 14:02 |
| asac | great | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | pitti, can you think of anything in a gnome session that might be preventing my laptop from suspending? | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | i can suspend from gdm, and from logged into kde | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | but not logged into gnome | 14:06 |
| pitti | does it lock screen? | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | and tested with a new user and with a reinstall | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | lock screen works.. | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | the symptom is this | 14:06 |
| pitti | gnome-session has a concept of "inhibiting suspend", yes | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | it turns on the blinking sleep light | 14:07 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson_: ^ I think you know much more about thsi | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | and everything appears to go to sleep | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | but the display goes black but doesn't really turn off | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | and it never goes to a full sleep | 14:07 |
| pitti | kenvandine: do you get any error in /var/log/pm-suspend.log? | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | the pm-suspend.log makes it look like sleep completed | 14:07 |
| chrisccoulson_ | hmmm, if something is inhibiting suspend, then gnome-session will show a dialog | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | a while back apw spent hours on this thing trying to figure it out | 14:07 |
| chrisccoulson_ | (and indicator-session bypasses the gnome-session mechanism anyway) | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | but at the time we didn't realize suspend worked outside of gnome | 14:08 |
| pitti | kenvandine: does "sudo pm-suspend" within a gnome terminal work? | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | nope | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | same thing | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | it is very strange | 14:08 |
| pitti | ah, then it's not gnome | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:08 |
| pitti | kenvandine: try something like | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | i read some stuff that made it sound like network-manager might not be able to release the interfaces | 14:08 |
| pitti | sudo PM_DEBUG=true pm-suspend 2>&1 | tee /tmp/out | 14:09 |
| kenvandine | but i removed the modules and all | 14:09 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:09 |
| kenvandine | brb | 14:09 |
| * kenvandine thinks it is really weird that it works in kde and gdm | 14:09 | |
| kenvandine | brb | 14:09 |
| kenvandine | damn /tmp cleaning :) | 14:14 |
| * kenvandine tries again | 14:14 | |
| popey | kenvandine: good work on making gwibber less crashy | 14:16 |
| nigelbabu | didrocks: reminding you about bug 111939 now that we're post RC | 14:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 111939 in metacity "Not possible to alt-tab during a drag-and-drop operation" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111939 | 14:17 |
| didrocks | nigelbabu: yeah, I read it again yesterday and think we should wait for maverick. Compiz is the main wm in any case and there is the same issue | 14:17 |
| nigelbabu | didrocks: sure, no problem. | 14:18 |
| didrocks | nigelbabu: thanks for the notice :) | 14:18 |
| nigelbabu | In the meantime, I'll try to get it into metacity trunk | 14:18 |
| didrocks | nigelbabu: yeah, that would be awesome :) | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/421032/ | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | pitti, chrisccoulson_: ^^ | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | one thing to note, running pm-suspend myself the screen never clears, i can still see everything | 14:20 |
| pitti | kenvandine: that's expected | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | but suspend from the session menu does clear the screen | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:21 |
| pitti | hm, that looks weird | 14:21 |
| pitti | (way too short, and it doesn't do any action) | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | there is much more in /var/log/pm-suspend.log | 14:22 |
| pitti | ah, right | 14:22 |
| * kenvandine pastes | 14:22 | |
| pitti | please put that somewhere | 14:22 |
| pitti | the >& logging probably stopped at the exec | 14:22 |
| chrisccoulson_ | asac - ok, firefox is uploaded now | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/421034/ | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | there might be more than one suspend in there | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | this behavior started in karmic right before the sprint in dublin | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | so been quite a while :) | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | we had chalked it up to bios or hardware... | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | but now that i know it works outside of gnome... i am determined to get suspend working again! | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | good morning rickspencer3 | 14:30 |
| rickspencer3 | hi kenvandine | 14:30 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3 | 14:32 |
| rickspencer3 | hi pitti | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | pitti, this sure is verbose... but i am not seeing anything that looks like it failed | 14:33 |
| didrocks | hey rickspencer3 | 14:35 |
| pitti | asac, chrisccoulson_: that's the weirdest bug I've ever seen -- different optimize flags cause *scroll bars* to appear?? | 14:35 |
| seb128 | hello rickspencer3 | 14:35 |
| rickspencer3 | hi seb128 | 14:36 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: not on #quickly? ;) just to tell you that I'm planning to release Quickly 0.4.1. No last-minute thing to put into the trunk for you? | 14:36 |
| rickspencer3 | hi didrocks, I just joined | 14:37 |
| rickspencer3 | I don't have as many channels autojoin on my netbook | 14:37 |
| didrocks | I would thought #quickly was #1 for you (kidding) ;) | 14:37 |
| chrisccoulson_ | pitti - yeah, that is pretty weird indeed | 14:38 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson_: this makes me a bit nervous about breaking other stuff, though | 14:38 |
| pitti | I mean ffox has never been tested with a global -O2 on any platform, has it? | 14:39 |
| chrisccoulson_ | pitti - i think asac has tested that though (i haven't, as i don't have the hardware available) | 14:39 |
| chrisccoulson_ | it's also only -O2 on armel | 14:39 |
| pitti | right, it's a no-op on !armel, but I'm still worried :) | 14:40 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, did I get the rolled back glx when I did a dist-upgrade last night? | 14:45 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: it's not accepted yet; the currently pending upload has an extra bug fix which I'm not sure about; I pinged bryceh about it | 14:45 |
| rickspencer3 | ok | 14:46 |
| rickspencer3 | hmmm | 14:46 |
| rickspencer3 | I thought bryceh said he was going to do a clean upload of just the rollback | 14:46 |
| rickspencer3 | oh well | 14:46 |
| ogra | pitti, we often see such issues in armel ... different optimization often exposes toolchain issues | 14:48 |
| kenvandine | pitti, chrisccoulson_: any ideas from that log? | 14:56 |
| pitti | kenvandine: (will have a look later on) | 14:57 |
| kenvandine | looks to me like everything worked, at least from the log | 14:57 |
| kenvandine | pitti, ok | 14:57 |
| pitti | kenvandine: yes, it goes all the way to echo mem > /sys/power/state | 14:58 |
| pitti | kenvandine: if you do echo mem | sudo tee /sys/power/state, does it suspend? | 14:59 |
| pitti | that's the bare-metal suspend command, straight to the kernel | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | i'll try... i assume it does since it works from kde and gdm | 14:59 |
| pitti | kenvandine: you can do sudo dmesg -c, then that command, and afterwards check with dmesg if there's any error from the kernel | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:59 |
| pitti | kenvandine: well, it's apparently what pm-suspend tries as well | 15:00 |
| didrocks | james_w: I'll need some help with a bzr merge if you're around | 15:01 |
| asac | chrisccoulson_: pitti: i had a test build with that change in a native ppa | 15:01 |
| asac | it was based on ffox 3.6.4 prerelease though ... so we cant just copy it | 15:02 |
| asac | chrisccoulson_: pitti: if it feels better we can prepare the release in native ppa and copy over once everything is built ;) | 15:02 |
| asac | that would reduce the risk of bustage due to build failures etc. | 15:02 |
| pitti | asac: no, that's fine (accepted) | 15:02 |
| james_w | didrocks: mais oui | 15:02 |
| asac | pitti: thanks. | 15:02 |
| pitti | asac: I was just concerned about -O2 breaking ffox on armel | 15:02 |
| didrocks | james_w: :) so, I'm trying to merge lp:~quickly/quickly/quickly-po in lp:quickly | 15:03 |
| james_w | didrocks: the former is a rosetta export branch? | 15:03 |
| didrocks | james_w: exactly, and the previous export branch didn't have a data/templates/ubuntu-application/help/po (creating in lp:quickly), and so, created itself the directory | 15:04 |
| didrocks | james_w: which results in data/templates/ubuntu-application and data/templates/ubuntu-application.moved directory | 15:04 |
| james_w | erk | 15:04 |
| james_w | double erk | 15:04 |
| james_w | or not | 15:04 |
| james_w | what did you change in lp:quickly? | 15:05 |
| james_w | did that add data/templates/ubuntu-application, is that unversioned in your local copy, or has it been there since before lp:~quickly/quickly/quickly-po branched? | 15:05 |
| didrocks | james_w: I've added a po template for tutorials, hence the directory creation | 15:05 |
| didrocks | james_w: data/templates/ubuntu-application should have been there even before the creation of the export branch, let me check | 15:06 |
| james_w | ah, ok, so you added it after branching? | 15:06 |
| didrocks | james_w: no, but it was data/templates/ubuntu-project which moved to data/templates/ubuntu-application | 15:06 |
| didrocks | (with bzr mv) | 15:06 |
| james_w | ah, ok | 15:07 |
| didrocks | james_w: but as LP po export added it manually… | 15:07 |
| james_w | that's a legitimate conflict then | 15:07 |
| didrocks | it created it in the export branch | 15:07 |
| didrocks | right | 15:07 |
| didrocks | I'm not surprised by the conflict, but how to resolve it properly :) | 15:07 |
| didrocks | I was thinking doing that: | 15:07 |
| james_w | right :-) | 15:07 |
| didrocks | bzr mv data/templates/ubuntu-application/help/po/* data/templates/ubuntu-application.moved/help/po | 15:08 |
| didrocks | then, rm -rf data/templates/ubuntu-application | 15:08 |
| didrocks | and mv data/templates/ubuntu-application.moved data/templates/ubuntu-application | 15:08 |
| didrocks | but then, bzr st told me that I removed all commands in ubuntu-application and that I've unknown file corresponding to every files in ubuntu-application | 15:08 |
| james_w | right, after bzr mkdir -p data/templates/ubuntu-application.moved/help/po | 15:08 |
| didrocks | so, I guess, I have ubuntu-application with the id of the export po branch (the one created recently) :) | 15:09 |
| james_w | try bzr mv --after data/templates/ubuntu-application.moved data/templates/ubuntu-application | 15:09 |
| didrocks | oh, --after? | 15:09 |
| james_w | "I've already moved it on disk, just mark it as moved in bzr st" | 15:09 |
| didrocks | ok, let me try that :) | 15:09 |
| didrocks | james_w: you rock! ;) | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | pitti, that doesn't work either... apparently this is some sign that i should switch to kde :-D | 15:12 |
| james_w | didrocks: sweet | 15:12 |
| pitti | kenvandine: what does dmesg say? | 15:12 |
| didrocks | james_w: thanks a lot :) | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | nothing.. | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | it logs nothing on the way down | 15:12 |
| pitti | strange | 15:12 |
| james_w | didrocks: np | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | it immediate stops | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | immediately | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | pitti, there must be some device or something that is keeping it from going down... something that is tweaked by logging into gnome | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | i tried switching to metacity, etc | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | turned off bluetooth and all | 15:13 |
| pitti | sudo stop network-manager, too? | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 15:14 |
| pitti | kenvandine: sudo killall udisks-daemon upowerd ? | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | didn't do that | 15:14 |
| * kenvandine tries | 15:14 | |
| kenvandine | sigh... | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | pitti, nope, that didn't help | 15:30 |
| kenvandine | very puzzling... | 15:30 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: hey I can consistently crash the xchat m-i plugin | 15:30 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, steps to repro? | 15:30 |
| jcastro | when someone messages you, click on the envelope and then on their name | 15:30 |
| kenvandine | can't repro it reliably | 15:30 |
| jcastro | then xchat disappears | 15:30 |
| jcastro | qense: you said you were seeing this too? | 15:31 |
| kenvandine | it has happened to me a couple times | 15:31 |
| kenvandine | but very rare | 15:31 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, file a bug please | 15:31 |
| qense | jcastro: please ping me and I can test it! | 15:31 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: file a bug on which component? | 15:32 |
| kenvandine | xchat-indicator | 15:32 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, highlight me again | 15:32 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: hi2u | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | ok, worked... i hadn't tested since i reinstalled lucid last night | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | get the bug filed and i will look at the crash report | 15:33 |
| qense | I have stopped using the XChat indicator because it used to crash, but I haven't tested it a long time. | 15:33 |
| qense | XChat GNOME, to be precise. | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | qense, that is what i am using too | 15:34 |
| hyperair | irssi ftw | 15:34 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, you using xchat or xchat-gnome? | 15:34 |
| jcastro | -gnome | 15:34 |
| kenvandine | ok | 15:34 |
| kenvandine | same here | 15:34 |
| hyperair | irssi + messaging indicator would be really cool | 15:34 |
| hyperair | does the messaging indicator have perl bindings? | 15:34 |
| kenvandine | nope | 15:34 |
| jcastro | hyperair: I know dude, especially if we could pipe it through ssh so I can run my screen remote ... | 15:34 |
| qense | Messaging indicator integration for irssi in byobu! | 15:34 |
| jcastro | qense: YES | 15:34 |
| hyperair | jcastro: absolutely! | 15:34 |
| qense | That would be fun: porting the whole indicator-* stack to screen... | 15:35 |
| ccheney | pitti: i think david wants to talk about that in the session, i didn't add it myself | 15:35 |
| ccheney | pitti: oh nm i see lucid, no thats not relevant for lucid | 15:35 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: apport didn't fire off or anything, is there anything I should look for for the report? | 15:35 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-gnome/+bug/565061 | 15:35 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/565061) | 15:35 |
| qense | jcastro: Apport was disabled by a recent update, did you renable it? | 15:36 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, dang it. my crash report was private | 15:36 |
| rickspencer3 | fixed now | 15:36 |
| qense | failed retrace | 15:36 |
| rickspencer3 | jcastro, does that look like your xchat crash? | 15:36 |
| jcastro | yes | 15:36 |
| jcastro | it does | 15:36 |
| * kenvandine wonders why that didn't show up in the "me" folder in evo... damn procmailrc ... | 15:37 | |
| rickspencer3 | anyway, may as well reuse that report rather than create a new one | 15:37 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3, can you repro that reliably too? | 15:37 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 15:37 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, no | 15:37 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: it doesn't happen every time | 15:37 |
| rickspencer3 | it's just intermitten enough that I keep using it | 15:37 |
| jcastro | right | 15:37 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: ok so I should turn on apport and if it happens again put it in this report? | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, it is probably the same as what rickspencer3 reported | 15:38 |
| jcastro | yeah I am just wondering if more info is better. apport is a black box to me. | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, perhaps | 15:39 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, fyi, for release meeting, edubuntu logo was done and sent a while ago, not sure when exactly | 15:47 |
| * rickspencer3 saw it as an open action on the email | 15:47 | |
| pitti | rickspencer3: right, it's already in the upload queue | 15:47 |
| rickspencer3 | :) | 15:47 |
| pitti | thanks for the heads-up | 15:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, the meeting is at 17h local right? | 15:48 |
| pitti | seb128: right | 15:48 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:48 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, do you want to be the desktop representative today? :-) | 15:48 |
| * seb128 grabs the laptop and will seat outside in the sun a bit to read email and join the meeting | 15:48 | |
| seb128 | pitti, I didn't prepare but I will watch | 15:48 |
| pitti | (our plate is pretty clean, should be easy for us) | 15:48 |
| pitti | seb128: that's fine; I updated the ReleaseStatus page | 15:49 |
| pitti | seb128, rickspencer3: I have to leave after the meeting; in case bryceh wakes up later, would you mind discussing his current upload with him? there's an extra bug fix which I'm not sure about, thus I didn't accept it yet | 15:51 |
| pitti | so if he's 100% confident in this, it's fine to accept | 15:51 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, will do | 15:51 |
| pitti | but it might not have been intended, since the upload encompasses two changelog records | 15:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 15:51 |
| pitti | cheers | 15:51 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm a bit concerned as well, as he said he wanted to do quite the opposite (have a clean upload for glx issue) | 15:51 |
| pitti | I'm invited at my parent's for dinner, since I'll be away for the next 3 weeks | 15:51 |
| rickspencer3 | "concerned" might be a tad strong | 15:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, enjoy | 15:52 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: right, which made me consider that it was an accident | 15:52 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, you need a netbook to take with you to dinner | 15:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm in my parents' garden right now with the laptop, splendid weather | 15:52 |
| rickspencer3 | just put it next to your plate | 15:52 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: it's already stowed away in my luggage :) | 15:52 |
| rickspencer3 | with headphones and mic it will be like your parents aren't even there, perfect | 15:52 |
| * pitti has the mobile with him, of course :) | 15:52 | |
| pitti | lol | 15:52 |
| rickspencer3 | :) | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | pitti, just confirmed... the exact same suspend problem on my wife's laptop | 15:54 |
| kenvandine | but my netbook suspends fine | 15:54 |
| vish | seb128: hmm , i may have missed your reply earlier [had to reboot].. when would be a right time to request the Humanity update for [KDE problem] ? | 15:54 |
| kenvandine | her hardware is completely different | 15:54 |
| kenvandine | intel white box laptop | 15:55 |
| seb128 | vish, next cycle? | 15:55 |
| pitti | kenvandine: curious | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | i have a thinkpad | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | different video and network | 15:55 |
| pitti | kenvandine: is that a regression from the glx rollback? | 15:55 |
| seb128 | vish, I'm not the one to talk to to get an exception now | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | no | 15:55 |
| seb128 | vish, try talking to pitti or slangasek | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | this has been a problem for me since early in the karmic cycle, even after several reinstalls | 15:55 |
| pitti | vish: "request"? | 15:55 |
| vish | ah , ok.. :) | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | for her suspend was fine until i installed lucid | 15:55 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, did it work if you turn off the social from the start cracks? | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | and actually... it is a regression for her in lucid | 15:56 |
| vish | pitti: Bug #566996 | 15:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 566996 in humanity-icon-theme "Humanity in KDE does not display volume icons." [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566996 | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | at first it did suspend, but wouldn't resume | 15:56 |
| seb128 | just trying to figure what you might set up and other people not | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | nvidia bug | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | but since that was fixed, it doesn't suspend completely just like mine | 15:56 |
| vish | pitti: the volume icon is not displayed in KDE :s , it was a hack i had done so that the icon isnt blurry in gtk widgets , ut it turns out to be a problem in kubuntu | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | seb128, it doesn't work for a new user... which doesn't have gwibber running | 15:56 |
| pitti | vish: if it's an 100% risk free and small fix, please get it uploaded for lucid, we are revieing the queue very often | 15:57 |
| pitti | vish: if not, -> SRU | 15:57 |
| seb128 | vish, did you fix it in a way which doesn't create the gtk issue again | 15:57 |
| seb128 | ? | 15:57 |
| vish | yup , no problems now | 15:57 |
| kenvandine | seb128, did you read back to where suspend works in gdm and in kde? | 15:57 |
| vish | neither for kde or gtk | 15:57 |
| kenvandine | but not from a logged in gnome session | 15:58 |
| kenvandine | seb128, any guesses? | 15:58 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, yes I read that and no, no guess, I would try starting a failsafe GNOME and try there | 15:58 |
| kenvandine | i did | 15:58 |
| kenvandine | fails too | 15:58 |
| seb128 | or turn off everything in the session and add things back | 15:58 |
| seb128 | weird | 15:59 |
| kenvandine | i did that too | 15:59 |
| seb128 | did you try to start a non gnome session | 15:59 |
| kenvandine | unchecked everything in the startup | 15:59 |
| seb128 | and start gnome-panel etc there? | 15:59 |
| kenvandine | no... let me try that | 15:59 |
| vish | pitti: the fix is small and uploaded and ready in lp:~ubuntu-art-pkg/humanity/release | 15:59 |
| * kenvandine tries with something lighter than kde | 15:59 | |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:59 |
| vish | pitti: i need to subscribe the release team or the Main sponsors to the bug? | 16:05 |
| pitti | vish: sponsors primarily | 16:05 |
| vish | neat thanks.. | 16:06 |
| maxb | I need help figuring out where to search for or report a vaguely desktoppish bug: On Lucid, the tickmarks in on/off context menu items appear white-on-light-grey, and so pretty much invisible. | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i can suspend from a full gnome-session if i start it without gdm | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | it seems to be related to logging in via gdm | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | perhaps consolekit? | 16:16 |
| pitti | that wouldn't stop the kernel from suspending with echo mem>, though | 16:18 |
| kenvandine | or something related to disk access | 16:18 |
| kenvandine | so starting with startx, i can't access usb sticks, dvd, etc | 16:18 |
| pitti | kenvandine: if you log into an xterm session, does it work then? | 16:18 |
| kenvandine | yes | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | oh | 16:19 |
| pitti | kenvandine: oh, then you can't access /dev/drm either | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | with gdm | 16:19 |
| pitti | so it might be device permissions indeed | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | i have no /dev/drm | 16:19 |
| pitti | /dev/dri/card0, sorry | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 16:20 |
| kenvandine | let me login to an xterm session with gdm | 16:20 |
| kenvandine | brb | 16:20 |
| kenvandine | pitti, suspend did work logged in from gdm with an xterm session | 16:22 |
| pitti | fun | 16:24 |
| pitti | kenvandine: try xterm session, then run compiz, and try again? | 16:24 |
| kenvandine | ok | 16:24 |
| kenvandine | suspend did work with compiz running in my gnome-session started with startx | 16:24 |
| kenvandine | still try? | 16:24 |
| pitti | hm; well, sure | 16:25 |
| kenvandine | brb | 16:25 |
| pitti | if for nothing else, you'll need it to sensibly start more terminals and apps :) | 16:25 |
| kenvandine | pitti, this is fun... suspend works fine if i login from gdm with the xterm session and run gnome-session | 16:28 |
| kenvandine | but it doesn't work if i login with a gnome session from gdm... | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | very strange | 16:29 |
| Nafai | morning everyone | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | good morning Nafai | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | pitti, confirmed the same thing does work on my wife's laptop too... very weird | 16:33 |
| Sarvatt | ** (gnome-settings-daemon:1658): WARNING **: /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-2.0/libmedia-keys.so: undefined symbol: notify_notification_show | 17:01 |
| Sarvatt | ^ wasn't that fixed a few months ago? seems it crept back in | 17:01 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, ldd -r it? | 17:01 |
| seb128 | oh right, I get it there too | 17:01 |
| chrisccoulson_ | hmmmm | 17:01 |
| Sarvatt | http://pastebin.com/G3CZztN8 | 17:02 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, do you notice any bug due to it? | 17:02 |
| chrisccoulson_ | when did that start? | 17:03 |
| Sarvatt | just the media keys plugin not being loaded going by xsession-errors, I dont use it | 17:03 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson_, not sure, g-s-d didn't change for a while | 17:04 |
| Sarvatt | seb128chrisccoulson, you add LIBNOTIFY_LDFLAGS use10:09 | 17:05 |
| Sarvatt | seb128and configure.ac uses _LIB10:09 | 17:05 |
| Sarvatt | seb128and not _LDFLAGS10:09 | 17:05 |
| Sarvatt | (irc log from 2010-01-29 | 17:05 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i thought i'd fixed that already | 17:05 |
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| chrisccoulson_ | oh, i see | 17:07 |
| chrisccoulson_ | it misses LIBNOTIFY_LIBS entirely | 17:07 |
| chrisccoulson_ | :( | 17:07 |
| didrocks | babel-fr is getting crazy in lucid… | 17:07 |
| Sarvatt | i only noticed because I was trying to track down why indicator-applet is failing to start and indicator-applet-session is showing double icons some boots, don | 17:07 |
| Sarvatt | don't know how long the error has been around | 17:08 |
| chrisccoulson_ | seb128 - are we ok to upload a fix for this now, or should we do a SRU? | 17:12 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson_: since when was it broken? | 17:13 |
| pitti | it would essentially mean to re-enable a feature, right? | 17:13 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson_, I think it should be ok for upload now | 17:13 |
| pitti | (the actual patch is probably quite small) | 17:13 |
| pitti | yes, please upload it now and test thoroughly | 17:13 |
| seb128 | what does it break? | 17:13 |
| seb128 | I still get sound key bubbles etc | 17:13 |
| chrisccoulson_ | pitti - it must have been broken for a while now (probably since the last update. i remember we had some difficulty with the patch then) | 17:13 |
| pitti | it probably breaks the entire media keys plugin? | 17:13 |
| chrisccoulson_ | seb128 - yeah, it WFM too, but in Sarvatt's case it's not working at all | 17:14 |
| pitti | like launching a web browser, etc/ | 17:14 |
| chrisccoulson_ | pitti - yeah, if the symbols aren't resolved then the whole plugin fails to load (which breaks volume keys etc) | 17:14 |
| seb128 | it's weird I get the ldd -r errors too | 17:15 |
| seb128 | but volume keys are working | 17:15 |
| pitti | is that in .xsession-errors? | 17:15 |
| chrisccoulson_ | me too | 17:15 |
| pitti | grep symbol /home/martin/.xsession-errors -> nothing | 17:15 |
| seb128 | same here | 17:15 |
| seb128 | but ldd -r on the .so -> errors | 17:15 |
| chrisccoulson_ | yeah, same here. it's definately not linking with libnotify | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson_ | but, that's an easy fix | 17:16 |
| pitti | ldd /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-2.0/libmedia-keys.so |grep noti -> empty, yes | 17:16 |
| seb128 | if you can get it uploaded today please do | 17:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, -r | 17:16 |
| seb128 | ldd -r | 17:16 |
| seb128 | ups | 17:16 |
| seb128 | I misread what you said | 17:16 |
| pitti | undefined symbol: gnome_settings_plugin_get_type(/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-2.0/libmedia-keys.so) | 17:16 |
| pitti | ? | 17:17 |
| Sarvatt | http://sarvatt.com/downloads/xsessions-errors.txt | 17:17 |
| pitti | seb128: (I get the missing notify bits, too) | 17:17 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:18 |
| chrisccoulson_ | do we need to report a bug for it? | 17:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, anyway don't delay your weekend on this | 17:18 |
| chrisccoulson_ | (i'm just building it now to test) | 17:18 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson_, don't bother I would say if you get a fix upload | 17:18 |
| seb128 | and ping slangasek about it | 17:18 |
| pitti | ok, so I'm off for some 3 hours for dinner at my parent's | 17:20 |
| pitti | when I'm back, I'll have another look at IRC and the queue | 17:20 |
| chrisccoulson_ | have fun pitti :) | 17:20 |
| pitti | thanks | 17:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, enjoy | 17:21 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson_: thanks for working on this issue | 17:21 |
| * pitti hugs you all | 17:21 | |
| pitti | seb128: see, that's the TB job: tell everyone what to do, have them work on Friday nights, and yourself are slacking off | 17:21 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 17:21 |
| * pitti feels guilty | 17:21 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 17:21 | |
| desrt | uh. | 17:22 |
| desrt | where are my getties? | 17:22 |
| pitti | s/TB/TL/, I mean | 17:22 |
| * chrisccoulson_ hugs pitti | 17:22 | |
| seb128 | pitti, don't worry they don't listen to you :p | 17:22 |
| desrt | please don't tell me they're gone in order to make bootup faster... | 17:22 |
| chrisccoulson_ | Sarvatt, OOI, do you have the xrandr plugin loaded in g-s-d? | 17:23 |
| chrisccoulson_ | that's the other plugin that links with libnotify, which is why it's working for me and seb128 | 17:24 |
| chrisccoulson_ | (because libnotify is already in memory) | 17:24 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i suspect if i turn off that plugin that media-keys will fail too | 17:24 |
| Sarvatt | ah hah thats why I see it then, yeah it's disabled | 17:26 |
| chrisccoulson_ | Sarvatt - ok, that makes sense now :) | 17:27 |
| chrisccoulson_ | seb128 - ok, fix pushed to bzr now. would you mind sponsoring? :) | 17:35 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson_, I can do that! | 17:36 |
| chrisccoulson_ | seb128 - thanks | 17:36 |
| bryceh | pitti, you had a question about the xserver upload? | 17:36 |
| rickspencer3 | bryceh, pitti is out atm | 17:37 |
| seb128 | bryceh, he said there is another change in there | 17:37 |
| seb128 | bryceh, out of the glx one | 17:37 |
| seb128 | bryceh, he was not sure if that was wanted | 17:37 |
| bryceh | the only other change is that it drops a duplicate patch | 17:37 |
| bryceh | which is fine | 17:37 |
| seb128 | ok, I guess that's the one he was not sure about | 17:37 |
| seb128 | can you clarify that with slangasek? | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | pitti, seb128: so i found the suspend problem... it fails to suspend if you have an SD card mounted :) | 17:38 |
| chrisccoulson_ | hmmm, i wish xchat would pick up the theme again after reloading g-s-d | 17:38 |
| kenvandine | I have had this SD card in this laptop since I bought it | 17:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, weird bug | 17:38 |
| bryceh | hrm | 17:38 |
| kenvandine | very weird... and a pain to narrow down :) | 17:39 |
| kenvandine | seb128, ideas what that should be filed against? | 17:39 |
| kenvandine | i assume the kernel | 17:39 |
| seb128 | bryceh, pitti said the changelog has 2 new entries in this upload | 17:39 |
| seb128 | bryceh, that's about what I know about his concern though | 17:40 |
| seb128 | he was not sure the previous one was an intended change too | 17:40 |
| bryceh | seb128, I'll doublecheck | 17:40 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, not really no, you can try there | 17:40 |
| kenvandine | now i am annoyed to think that i haven't been able to suspend for 8 months because I had this silly SD card in my laptop :) | 17:41 |
| bryceh | seb128, I only see one changelog entry for the 23rd, and then the previous is from the 15th | 17:41 |
| seb128 | bryceh, check with slangasek I would say, I assume they have some queue diff, maybe that got the debdiff buggy for some reason | 17:41 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, seems you dropped a tap to click change too? | 17:43 |
| bryceh | seb128, looks like he's not around | 17:44 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh, it was commented in the serie and you dropped the change too now, ok | 17:45 |
| seb128 | confusing debdiff | 17:45 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - oh, perhaps the branch was slightly out of sync with the archive? | 17:46 |
| kenvandine | very old bug, bug 295354 | 17:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 295354 in linux "sdhci: suspend problems with mounted partition" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/295354 | 17:46 |
| chrisccoulson | i didn't intentionally make any other changes | 17:46 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, uploaded | 17:46 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - thanks | 17:46 |
| seb128 | bryceh, ok, so you uploaded xorg-server ubuntu7 | 17:49 |
| seb128 | lucid current has ubuntu5 | 17:49 |
| seb128 | bryceh, was the ubuntu6 change on purpose in that upload too? | 17:49 |
| seb128 | it's not there http://launchpadlibrarian.net/45056000/xorg-server_1.7.6-2ubuntu7_source.changes | 17:49 |
| seb128 | bryceh, ie you have 2 revisions but listed one in the .changes only, forgot to -vubuntu5 on build? | 17:50 |
| bryceh | mm, did that one just not get uploaded maybe? | 17:50 |
| seb128 | bryceh, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server | 17:50 |
| seb128 | bryceh, it was not no | 17:50 |
| seb128 | so pitti wanted to double check what was going on | 17:50 |
| seb128 | ie is it intended to go in lucid | 17:50 |
| bryceh | seb128, so want me to exclude that and redo the packaging? | 17:50 |
| seb128 | or a revision leftover | 17:50 |
| seb128 | rather confirm that you want that one in lucid | 17:51 |
| seb128 | and that it was not a revision uploaded by error | 17:51 |
| seb128 | ie that you based your recent change on the right one | 17:51 |
| seb128 | and not on a local testversion with a revision not meant to go in lucid | 17:51 |
| bryceh | I can exclude it if it is causing confusion, but it's a valid fix for a serious issue that should be in ubuntu | 17:51 |
| bryceh | well, serious for people who have the issue | 17:52 |
| seb128 | ok thanks | 17:52 |
| seb128 | bryceh, thanks, I clarified with slangasek, or rather let him a message to read about it, that it was a wanted change and can be accepted when he wants | 17:53 |
| bryceh | alright | 17:54 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: I wouldn't include the xauth commit for now, it's not something affecting a large number of users and did you notice it's undergoing heavy revision to meet upstream's standards? http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006992.html | 17:56 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, yes I know it's being worked on upstream | 17:57 |
| milanbv | chrisccoulson: sorry for raising this again, but what should we do to for the system-tools-backends 2.10.0? | 17:57 |
| milanbv | wait for a SRU? | 17:57 |
| milanbv | do you want me to package it? | 17:57 |
| chrisccoulson | milanbv - is there a bug for it? | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | (i don't really have time to work on that atm) | 17:59 |
| milanbv | chrisccoulson: yeah, there are a few bugs | 18:01 |
| milanbv | do you mean a bug "Update stb to 2.10.0"? | 18:01 |
| milanbv | no, but I can create it | 18:01 |
| milanbv | disregarding crowded agenda issues, what would be the best procedure? | 18:02 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, I've uploaded an xserver with that xauth change xcluded for the archive admins to choose from. I think it's fine but no skin off my nose if it's left out. | 18:07 |
| ccheney | seb128: are we skipping the dictionary transition intentionally? aiui enchant is still using the old locations from a year ago? | 18:07 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, it can be sru'd later when the patch is finalized | 18:07 |
| seb128 | ccheney, no it's just that nobody has been watching what debian was doing | 18:14 |
| seb128 | ccheney, I noticed some days ago when talking to the debian maintainer about the openoffice.org-dictionnaries change I did and sent back there | 18:15 |
| seb128 | ccheney, it seems late to change enchant now so that will be next cycle | 18:15 |
| seb128 | would have been nice if you could have watched those dictionnaries changes in debian earlier | 18:16 |
| seb128 | so we could have adapted for lucid | 18:16 |
| seb128 | the debian maintainer said it had been announced on debian list and in openoffice changes for a while | 18:16 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: yeah we have that major EXA fix to SRU too | 18:18 |
| Sarvatt | where people using noscript in firefox with compositing enabled is crashing the server | 18:18 |
| * bryceh nods | 18:19 | |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, yeah I asked pitti if I should include that in this upload but didn't hear from him so just left it out | 18:19 |
| bryceh | it looks like something which would be fine to roll out as an sru, since it doesn't prevent install or boot | 18:20 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, if you spot any other xserver patches let me know, I'm building a todo list | 18:20 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: there is another important one that could use a round through -proposed testing because it is a pretty significant change, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/553647 | 18:22 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 553647 in xorg-server "xserver crash (repeatable, triggered by drawing circle/ellipse e.g. in xfig)" [High,Triaged] | 18:22 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, heh yep that's the other one on my todo list ;-) | 18:23 |
| bryceh | #539772 and #553647 | 18:23 |
| bryceh | there might be one or two more that are nearly ready | 18:24 |
| Nafai | lunching | 18:27 |
| ccheney | seb128: yea it was done in karmic release cycle for Debian but was too late for karmic, i got all the dictionaries updated for lucid a while back except for the bug you updated for, i'm not sure what all applications need changes but thought those would have filtered in semi-automatically | 18:36 |
| ccheney | the Debian guy (rene) plans to drop the compat symlinks in the near future, probably early in maverick cycle | 18:37 |
| seb128 | right | 18:38 |
| seb128 | he was unhappy that we didn't sync the enchant change | 18:38 |
| ccheney | i guess the enchant change must have been late for it not to have been in testing | 18:38 |
| seb128 | it's in testing but we have ubuntu changes to enchant | 18:39 |
| ccheney | i can't get to the packages.qa.d.o page to check | 18:39 |
| ccheney | oh ok | 18:39 |
| seb128 | and we don't review changes to merge every week in the second half of the cycle | 18:39 |
| seb128 | anyway dinner time | 18:39 |
| seb128 | bbl | 18:39 |
| ccheney | yea, so thats why i mentioned it must have been late, i think the initial changes for dictionaries were before lucid so it was either stuck or not done until later for enchant | 18:40 |
| ccheney | ok ttyl :) | 18:40 |
| * ccheney will do another openoffice.org-dictionaries update to add the remaining compat symlinks needed until dictionary transition is complete for Ubuntu | 18:40 | |
| * desrt adds another process to slow down the GNOME login process | 18:45 | |
| Nafai | Question. bratsche came up with a patch for gtk that fixed the gnome bluetooth bug as reported. But, in the process, I discovered another bug (the Visible menu item isn't showing up). Should I file a new one for that and work on that and have bratsche's gtk changes be the fix for the original one? | 20:33 |
| rickspencer3 | Nafai I would suggest logging a new bug | 20:38 |
| rickspencer3 | then attach bratche's patch to the original bug, and your patch to the new one | 20:38 |
| Nafai | k, that's what I think | 20:38 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks man | 20:38 |
| Nafai | np | 20:38 |
| rickspencer3 | Nafai could you please make sure the bug comments are up to date on the BT one? | 20:39 |
| Nafai | sure thing, I'll do that and then open the new bug | 20:39 |
| bratsche | Nafai: So that gtk patch definitely helped/fixed the issue? | 20:50 |
| Nafai | bratsche: yes, indeed | 20:51 |
| bratsche | Nice! | 20:52 |
| Nafai | yes, much thanks | 20:54 |
| bratsche | So I need to work that into a gtk patch that's upstreamable then. | 20:55 |
| bratsche | I'll have to do that on Monday though, I'm leaving for a symphony rehearsal in about an hour. | 20:56 |
| Nafai | yeah, should I just comment that it works and re-assign the bug to you? | 20:56 |
| bratsche | Add a gtk+ component to the bug in launchpad and assign that to me. If there's no more work to do on it then I guess close the gnome-bluetooth part of the bug. | 20:56 |
| Nafai | (new to launchpad), so "also affects project" and add gt+? | 20:57 |
| Nafai | gtk+ | 20:57 |
| bratsche | Also affects distribution | 20:58 |
| bratsche | Then I think it's gtk+ or gtk+2.0 or something like that. | 20:58 |
| Nafai | ok | 20:58 |
| bratsche | "Also affects project" is intended for upstream projects listed in Launchpad, which gtk+ isn't. "Also affects distribution" lets you file a bug against Ubuntu's gtk+ package. | 20:59 |
| Nafai | ah, I was thinking distribution as in "lucid" | 20:59 |
| Nafai | makes sense | 21:00 |
| Nafai | thanks | 21:00 |
| seb128 | bratsche, Nafai: no please don't do that | 21:02 |
| Nafai | Looks like dbarth already re-classified it as gtk+ | 21:02 |
| seb128 | bratsche, Nafai: reassigning the bug rather than adding an another task, having a second task means you keep spamming the first one subscribers | 21:02 |
| seb128 | Nafai, right, I told him to do so | 21:02 |
| seb128 | Nafai, you can let the bug in this state, I will do a SRU upload after lucid with some other changes | 21:03 |
| seb128 | I will probably wait for bratsche to come with an upstream approved change though | 21:03 |
| seb128 | would be nice to fix the scrolling in the same upload | 21:03 |
| Nafai | ok | 21:03 |
| Nafai | comment that it is fixed and leave as-is? | 21:04 |
| Nafai | s/fixed/fixed with the gtk change | 21:04 |
| seb128 | yes | 21:04 |
| seb128 | next part is up to bratsche to get a chance upstream | 21:04 |
| seb128 | then I will backport to lucid | 21:04 |
| seb128 | thank you for your work on this! | 21:04 |
| Nafai | ok, thanks for helping me learn the process :) | 21:05 |
| bratsche | Me too. :) | 21:08 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3, the xchat-indicator bug is weird... sometimes it is getting added to the hash table a second time, i think | 21:45 |
| kenvandine | but it checks to see if it is there before adding it... very strange | 21:45 |
| kenvandine | i have reproduced it though, and got some debugging code in | 21:46 |
| kenvandine | will try to fix it over the weekend | 21:46 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks kenvandine | 21:47 |
| rickspencer3 | this is a plugin in universe, right? | 21:47 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 21:47 |
| kenvandine | i gotta head out to take my son to t-ball practice now, bbiab | 21:48 |
| rickspencer3 | bye kenvandine | 21:48 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, let me know if you want any help with that ;) | 21:49 |
| chrisccoulson | that one is annoying ;) | 21:49 |
| kenvandine | :) | 21:49 |
| * didrocks waves goodnight and enjoy your week-end | 21:54 | |
| bratsche | Later didrocks! | 21:54 |
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| kklimonda | /quit maintenance | 22:29 |
| kklimonda | hmm | 22:29 |
| pitti | kenvandine: SD card mounted? that's .. awesome; some USB port doesn't suspend then? | 22:33 |
| pitti | bryceh: seems all sorted out now? the other bug fix was intended? | 22:34 |
| bryceh | pitti, yes it was intended | 22:38 |
| bryceh | I'd assumed it was already uploaded (I'd already committed it to git as released), but I have no .upload file so have no proof I uploaded it | 22:39 |
| pitti | bryceh: ok, thanks; just wanted to ensure it was intended, and not an "oops" :) | 22:40 |
| bryceh | pitti, well good catch | 22:41 |
| * pitti waves goodbye then, have a good weekend everyone! | 22:42 | |
| bryceh | cya | 22:42 |
| Nafai | bye pitti! | 22:44 |
| cj | sshaw, everybody. everybody, sshaw. | 22:53 |
| sshaw | is this the right channel to get some help with packages a desktop package on ubuntu | 22:55 |
| cj | sshaw: it's EOD on friday ;) | 22:58 |
| sshaw | :( | 22:58 |
| sshaw | not for me :) | 22:59 |
| Nafai | Hey sshaw | 22:59 |
| sshaw | Nafai: hi | 22:59 |
| sshaw | how goes it? | 22:59 |
| Nafai | Hi from a bit north of you :) | 22:59 |
| Nafai | good | 22:59 |
| sshaw | I'm not sure how far north? | 22:59 |
| sshaw | I knew you were in utah, but that's about it | 22:59 |
| Nafai | Pleasant Grove | 22:59 |
| sshaw | oh, so not too far north | 22:59 |
| sshaw | what are you doing again for canonical? | 23:00 |
| Nafai | desktop software engineer | 23:00 |
| sshaw | ah very cool | 23:00 |
| Nafai | working with these guys. a little development, a little packaging, a lot of fun :) | 23:00 |
| sshaw | what aspect of the desktop? | 23:00 |
| * sshaw is still trying to learn ubuntu packaging | 23:00 | |
| Nafai | right now, une (ubuntu netbook edition) and programmer oriented tools | 23:01 |
| sshaw | cool | 23:01 |
| sshaw | I imagine that the programmer oriented tools would be pretty cool | 23:01 |
| Nafai | yeah, it will be fun, haven't really started that, since I just started at the beginning of the month | 23:02 |
| Nafai | will get into it for the next dev cycle | 23:02 |
| sshaw | cool | 23:03 |
| sshaw | maybe you can help me out with my problem then | 23:03 |
| sshaw | it has to do with gnome and packaging if you are up for it | 23:03 |
| Nafai | I'm pretty new to some of it, for sure the person to help you would be seb128, but I imagine he's gone/asleep, he's in France. He's our gnome packager dude | 23:05 |
| Nafai | What's up though? | 23:05 |
| sshaw | ah cool | 23:06 |
| sshaw | I'm getting an error when trying to run debuild with a package that has schema stuff in it | 23:06 |
| sshaw | I added a Build-Depends for libgconf2-dev, but it still fails | 23:07 |
| Nafai | could you pastebin the error? | 23:07 |
| sshaw | http://paste2.org/p/790302 | 23:08 |
| Nafai | hrm | 23:09 |
| Nafai | sounds like an autoconf thingy | 23:09 |
| * Nafai looks at something | 23:09 | |
| sshaw | I'm thinking its a build dependency issue. I was getting the same thing on fedora until I added gconf2-devel | 23:10 |
| sshaw | maybe macros provided by that package? | 23:11 |
| Nafai | probably | 23:11 |
| Nafai | let me look at a similar package here | 23:11 |
| Nafai | could you pastebin your debian/control file? | 23:11 |
| sshaw | I added libgconf-dev, but no such luck | 23:11 |
| sshaw | yeah, one sec | 23:11 |
| sshaw | http://paste2.org/p/790308 | 23:12 |
| Nafai | so I'm still new to this so I'm trying to figure it out | 23:18 |
| sshaw | that makes 2 of us :) | 23:19 |
| Nafai | could you pastebin for me the contents of the gconf2-devel package? | 23:19 |
| Nafai | (in fedora) | 23:19 |
| sshaw | probably not :( | 23:19 |
| cj | rpm -ql ? | 23:19 |
| sshaw | I don't have a fedora install handy | 23:19 |
| cj | ah... | 23:19 |
| cj | moment... | 23:19 |
| sshaw | for some reason its GConf2-devel on fedora | 23:20 |
| sshaw | this is on openSUSE http://paste2.org/p/790323 | 23:20 |
| * cj asked a fedora-using friend for the list | 23:20 | |
| * sshaw is too lazy to pull up his vm of fedora :) | 23:20 | |
| sshaw | the case still applies to openSUSE though, so that should work as well | 23:21 |
| * cj would need to build a fedora vm from scratch | 23:21 | |
| sshaw | brb | 23:21 |
| Nafai | ok, looking | 23:22 |
| Nafai | weird | 23:24 |
| sshaw | back | 23:27 |
| Nafai | so that autoconf macro is indeed in libgconf2-dev (in /usr/share/aclocal/gconf-2.m4) | 23:28 |
| Nafai | and if this worked for fedora without making any source changes, I'm a bit confused | 23:28 |
| Nafai | actually, are you just building this on a local Ubuntu system? | 23:29 |
| sshaw | yeah | 23:29 |
| sshaw | debuild | 23:29 |
| Nafai | do you have that package installed? | 23:29 |
| sshaw | yeah | 23:29 |
| Nafai | weird | 23:29 |
| sshaw | I might need to do an autoreconf | 23:29 |
| Nafai | Is the directory clean before you try to build? | 23:29 |
| Nafai | probably, actually | 23:29 |
| sshaw | not sure how to do that in ubuntu though | 23:29 |
| Nafai | (Just learning about autoconf foo) | 23:29 |
| sshaw | I imagine in the rules file? | 23:30 |
| Nafai | the autoreconf? | 23:30 |
| sshaw | Nafai: john jolly gave a presentation on it called the dark arts of autotools | 23:30 |
| cj | to clean the package, run 'fakeroot debian/rules clean' | 23:30 |
| Nafai | sshaw: Was it at UTOS a couple years ago? | 23:30 |
| * cj is an autotools hero (or so it's said) | 23:30 | |
| Nafai | I may have actually been at that presentation, I just haven't used it since then :) | 23:30 |
| sshaw | Nafai: yeah | 23:30 |
| sshaw | I think so at least | 23:31 |
| Nafai | Novell dude, right? | 23:31 |
| sshaw | cj: then you are my hero :) | 23:31 |
| sshaw | yup | 23:31 |
| cj | oh, good. you know where to find me ;) | 23:31 |
| cj | have you run pbuilder-satisfydepends? | 23:32 |
| * cj reads backlog | 23:32 | |
| cj | 22:25 <wakko666> the reference points you want are: | 23:32 |
| cj | 22:25 <wakko666> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=1043 | 23:32 |
| cj | 22:25 <wakko666> http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/GConf2/ | 23:32 |
| cj | 22:26 <wakko666> koji has the complete file list for each build | 23:32 |
| cj | 22:26 <wakko666> fedora cvs has the spec files and patches for each release | 23:32 |
| cj | 22:26 <wakko666> for koji: click a build, then click the "info" link on the package. | 23:32 |
| cj | 22:27 <wakko666> are you going to be at LinuxFest this weekend? | 23:32 |
| sshaw | yup | 23:32 |
| cj | oh... last for me ;) | 23:32 |
| sshaw | that's where I stole their packages from... actually easier to just grab the .src.rpm file tbh | 23:33 |
| sshaw | :( | 23:37 |
| sshaw | have to run. I have computational theory studying calling my name | 23:37 |
| cj | what's the current problem? | 23:37 |
| cj | :) | 23:37 |
| sshaw | cj: perhaps on monday :) | 23:38 |
| cj | okay. later, then. | 23:38 |
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