[00:03] <pleia2> just gathering up quorum and then we'll start the americas board meeting :)
[00:06] <pleia2> but first I'd like to apologize for the short notice on this meeting, I think with the release next week we've all been a bit overwhelmed
[00:06] <greg-g> +1's being overwhelmed/worked
[00:08] <crimsun> no kidding. I'm taking lunch breaks to push patches for Ubuntu/upstream.
[00:08] <crimsun> I'm looking forward to a nice long break.
[00:08] <greg-g> crimsun++
[00:09] <mrand> How many  lunch breaks do you take each day? ;-)
[00:09] <crimsun> the mandated 30-minute one
[00:10] <greg-g> crimsun works harder than many I know
[00:11] <Technoviking> sigh
[00:12] <mrand> I'm sure sound, among other things, keeps him VERY busy!
[00:17] <pleia2> not sure if we're going to manage to get quorum
[00:17] <pleia2> giving it until 20 after
[00:17] <BslBryan> How many more do we need?
[00:17] <pleia2> one
[00:18] <greg-g> sorry everyone... sometimes life gets in the way of making quorum :/
[00:18] <BslBryan> We still might get it.  I'll try to contact someone who's not here.
[00:19] <persia> I'm willing to sit in, if you get too stuck.
[00:19] <pleia2> w00t
[00:19] <pleia2> ok, you're in persia :)
[00:19] <persia> OK.
[00:19] <pleia2> greg-g: shall we begin?
[00:19] <greg-g> we shall
[00:19] <greg-g> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the Americas meeting for <DATE>. The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas
[00:20] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[00:20] <MootBot> Meeting started at 18:20. The chair is pleia2.
[00:20] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[00:20] <greg-g> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[00:20] <greg-g> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[00:20] <greg-g> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[00:20] <greg-g> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[00:20] <greg-g> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[00:20] <greg-g> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[00:21] <pleia2> I think flare183 is missing
[00:21] <greg-g> mrand, you're up!
[00:21] <pleia2> [TOPIC] mrand
[00:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  mrand
[00:22] <mrand> Howdy all!  I've been using Ubuntu since installing Mythbuntu 7.10.  I had been wanting to do an install long before then, but family and work obligations pretty much consumed all my time prior to that.  After installing and reporting a bug or two, I was pleasantly surprised to find the Ubuntu developers didn't treat users with the same disdain that I have seen with many other open source projects, so I started trying to help out a bi
[00:22] <mrand> As is probably the case with many people, helping out "a little" has eventually grown into helping out during most of my free time as I have learned the processes and procedures for Launchpad and for a Debian-based OS as it differs from various Unix OS's that I've used in the past. Anyway, you can find more info and handy links here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcRandolph
[00:23] <greg-g> cool, hi mrand. You mention bug triage, I think I've seen you chatting in #ubuntu-bugs before, yes?
[00:23] <mrand> Quite possibly.  I hang out there, both to learn and to answer question as I have time.
[00:24] <pleia2> mrand: woo, mythbuntu! can you tell us a bit about your involvement with it?
[00:24] <tgm4883> I'm here for mrand from the Mythbuntu team. I have prepared a short(ish) statement
[00:25] <pleia2> tgm4883: feel free to go ahead at any time
[00:25] <tgm4883> mrand has contributed a great deal to the Mythbuntu project. He single handedly took our bug section which was becoming very large with "new" bugs because it was an unmanaged mess that no developer wanted to take on and he transformed it into something that we as developers can now handle. We have an organized area now. We have guidelines for how we mark bugs and have stock replies for requesting information from users to help us actually
[00:25] <tgm4883> fix bugs. This may not sound like a lot to some, but this frees up a lot of time for us and gives us consistency across bug reports and increases how we look to the community. Mythbuntu could definitely use more developer time, and now that we don't spend so much time managing bug reports that is just what mrand has given us.
[00:25] <greg-g> rock on, thank you tgm4883
[00:25] <mrand> pleia2: sure... I try to to front-line triage, especially regarding getting bugs upstreamed.  I also try to keep an eye on upstream, especially around release time like now, in case there is anything we need to cherry pick.
[00:25] <tgm4883> greg-g, yw
[00:26] <mrand> as you may or may not know, mythtv, even on its best day, is beta software, so it takes a bit more hands on care from the developers than most other ubuntu packages.
[00:26] <pleia2> mrand: that's great, we've run a few mythbuntu events in pennsylvania and we really do appreciate that last minute cherry-picking :)
[00:26] <persia> mrand: You seem to have been very active in bug triage.  You also mention the Dallas and Texas teams as affiliations: could you share a bit about what you've been doing with them?
[00:28] <mrand> persia: My main efforts on the LoCo side is trying to provide moral support to the guy heading up the effort to get the Texas Team official.  Texas has had a rough time, for various reasons, and they appear to finally be getting some feed underneath them.  I actually met pleia2 at the impromtu Texas meeting during UDS last year. :-)
[00:28] <mrand> The team is planning an event next weekend, in fact.
[00:28] <pleia2> that impromtu meetup was really great
[00:28] <greg-g> mrand: a release party?
[00:29] <mrand> greg-g:  yes... at the ..... "mean cat" bar and grill, or something to that effect.  *looking*
[00:29] <greg-g> heh, no worries, I won't be able to make it
[00:29] <greg-g> :)
[00:29] <pleia2> hehe
[00:29] <mrand> "Mean Eyed Cat"
[00:30] <mrand> http://themeaneyedcat.com/ if anyone is interested.
[00:30] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://themeaneyedcat.com/ if anyone is interested.
[00:30]  * nhandler wonders how Dustin Kirkland finds these bars
[00:30] <mrand> Indeed
[00:31] <pleia2> [VOTE] mrand membership
[00:31] <MootBot> Please vote on:  mrand membership.
[00:31] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[00:31] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[00:31] <pleia2> +1
[00:31] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[00:31] <Technoviking> +1
[00:31] <greg-g> +1
[00:31] <MootBot> +1 received from Technoviking. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[00:31] <MootBot> +1 received from greg-g. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[00:31] <persia> +1
[00:31] <MootBot> +1 received from persia. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[00:31] <pleia2> [endvote]
[00:31] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[00:31] <greg-g> congrats mrand !
[00:31] <pleia2> congrats and welcome, mrand!
[00:31] <mrand> super.  thanks so much everyone!
[00:31] <pleia2> keep mythubntu rocking :)
[00:32] <mrand> We're sure going to try!
[00:32] <pleia2> ok, I don't see RedSingularity or manjo here today
[00:32] <pleia2> [TOPIC] BslBryan
[00:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  BslBryan
[00:32] <greg-g> BslBryan: you're up! :)
[00:34] <BslBryan> Hello everyone!  I don't have much to say as an introduction. :-)  I have been using Ubuntu for a while and contributing for over a year.  While I have a little bit of experience all over the place, my main reason for requesting membership is advocacy.  This may sound a little extreme, but I was actually so impressed with Ubuntu that I designed, bought, and constructed a computer store based on my experiences with it.
[00:34] <BslBryan>  You can find out more about my experience and loco forum moderating, etc, at my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BslBryan
[00:35] <pleia2> BslBryan: wow, when did you open?
[00:35] <BslBryan> October 15, 2009. :-)
[00:35] <pleia2> congrats!
[00:36] <BslBryan> Thank you.
[00:36] <pleia2> so, lots of work with the georgia team, but you're in TN?
[00:36] <BslBryan> Yes.  I went to college in Georgia.  I am still involved with the team, and go there for Linux fests, etc.  but I am now back in Chattanooga, and soon will be in Chicago.
[00:37] <Technoviking> I have to go, but gave my vote to the board
[00:37] <pleia2> might be interested in the tennessee team, they have regular meetings these days in #ubuntu-us-tn, great crowd :)
[00:37] <BslBryan> Certainly.  But with work and such it seems like a lot to handle.  But it would certainly be easier to meet face to face. ;-)
[00:38]  * pleia2 nods
[00:38] <greg-g> oh right, Chattanooga, that is the town who's newspaper hired one of my favorite cartoonists, Clay Bennett, from the Christian Science Monitor
[00:38] <BslBryan> I hadn't heard about that.
[00:38] <greg-g> just an aside ;)
[00:39] <BslBryan> Haha.
[00:39] <BslBryan> No worries, I will look him up now.
[00:39]  * persia is impressed at a such detail and so many links in an applicant page, and fails to have unanswered questions.
[00:40] <greg-g> good testimonials, BslBryan
[00:40] <BslBryan> Thanks.
[00:41] <pleia2> [VOTE] BslBryan membership
[00:41] <MootBot> Please vote on:  BslBryan membership.
[00:41] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[00:41] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[00:41] <greg-g> +1
[00:41] <MootBot> +1 received from greg-g. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[00:41] <persia> +1 Lots of great work in many areas!
[00:41] <MootBot> +1 received from persia. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[00:41] <cody-somerville-> +1
[00:41] <MootBot> +1 received from cody-somerville-. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[00:41] <pleia2> [endvote]
[00:41] <MootBot> Final result is 3 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 3
[00:41] <pleia2> oh, I forgot to vote!
[00:42] <pleia2> haha +1 :)
[00:42] <greg-g> congrats and welcome, BslBryan !!
[00:42] <BslBryan> Haha.  Thank you all very much.
[00:43] <greg-g> just to be sure, are either manjo or RedSingularity here?
[00:44] <greg-g> alright then, I think thats it for tonight!
[00:44] <greg-g> thanks to all the attendees and congrats mrand and BslBryan, I'm glad to see you two on board!
[00:44] <nhandler> Congrats to all of the new members
[00:45] <BslBryan> Thanks.  Good night, everyone.
[00:45] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[00:45] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 18:45.
[02:07] <kirkland> nhandler: Austin has a *lot* of bars and pubs ;-)
[16:00] <pitti> o/
[16:00] <ttx> o/
[16:01]  * sbeattie waves
[16:01]  * apw looks about
[16:02] <ScottK> o/
[16:04] <Riddell> hi
[16:04] <jiboumans> o/
[16:05]  * ogra heard the noise in here and lurks 
[16:06]  * apw bangs things on the table
[16:06]  * slangasek waves
[16:06] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[16:06] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:06. The chair is slangasek.
[16:06] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:06] <slangasek> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-04-23
[16:06] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-04-23
[16:07] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Actions from previous meetings
[16:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  Actions from previous meetings
[16:07] <slangasek>   * rickspencer to ask designers about new Edubuntu logo
[16:07] <slangasek>   * doko to grep the archive for codecs.open in python code, to find other packages broken by http://bugs.python.org/issue691291 (DONE:http://people.canonical.com/~doko/tmp/codecs.open.log)
[16:07] <slangasek>   * ScottK, slangasek to review python sync/merge candidates (INPROGRESS)
[16:07] <slangasek>   * pitti to investigate pm-utils hook for final to disable s/r on dells affected by bug #526354 (DONE)
[16:08]  * apw confirms that the dell workaround disables suspend for him
[16:08] <slangasek> at this point, I think the python stuff is going to be for SRU as I don't think we'll make any progress in the next week with everything else going on
[16:08] <slangasek> apw: :)
[16:08] <slangasek> and I think the Edubuntu logo is now done?
[16:09] <ScottK> Agreed.
[16:09] <ScottK> (on python)
[16:09]  * slangasek reads scrollback in #-release - yep, Edubuntu logo is done
[16:10] <slangasek> [TOPIC] QA Team
[16:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA Team
[16:10] <sbeattie> Hardware Testing (automated):
[16:10] <sbeattie> Netbook:
[16:10] <sbeattie>    passed: 14 (100%)   failed: 0 (0%)    untested: 0 (0%)
[16:10] <sbeattie> Laptop:
[16:10] <sbeattie>    passed: 42 (98%)    failed: 0 (0%)    untested: 1 (2%)
[16:10] <sbeattie> Server:
[16:10] <sbeattie>    passed: 64 (96%)    failed: 0 (0%)    untested: 3 (4%)
[16:10] <sbeattie> Desktop:
[16:10] <sbeattie>    passed: 13 (100%)   failed: 0 (0%)    untested: 0 (0%)
[16:10] <sbeattie> More details at http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:10] <slangasek> looks good
[16:11] <sbeattie> I didn't get a report from fader about any additional manual hardware testing we've done in thepast week.
[16:11] <sbeattie> Lucid Release Candidate ISO Testng Report
[16:11] <sbeattie> == Test Coverage ==
[16:11] <sbeattie> Image Coverage: 100%
[16:11] <sbeattie> Mandatory Testcase Coverage: 210/210 = 100.00%
[16:11] <sbeattie> Optional Testcase Coverage: 15/23 = 65.22%
[16:11] <sbeattie> 16 Test Failures with a Failure Rate 16/225 = 7.11%
[16:11] <sbeattie> Unfixed Issues: 49 (Critical: 1 High: 12)
[16:11] <sbeattie> Fixed Issues: 13 (Critical: 0 High: 6)
[16:11] <sbeattie> Detailed ISO testing report at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/LucidRCTestReport
[16:11] <sbeattie> (fixed/unfixed is somewhat stale, as I'm aware of at least two issues that have been fixed since the report was generated)
[16:12] <pitti> pm-utils> I'm not proud of it, but it works
[16:12] <pitti> edubuntu logo> this is done, and I think the currently pending edubuntu-artwork upload has it
[16:12] <slangasek> ok
[16:12] <sbeattie> slangasek: that's all I have to report, unless there's any questions.
[16:12] <slangasek> is there a list of the optional testcases that we didn't cover?  I don't seem to ever find this in the tracker
[16:13] <sbeattie> slangasek: I don't know; I asked marjo about that in our last QA meeting and he didn't have one.
[16:13] <slangasek> (not in summary form, I mean)
[16:13] <slangasek> ok
[16:13] <sbeattie> I'll try to track one down; I'd like to see us complete those.
[16:14] <slangasek> agreed
[16:14] <slangasek> [ACTION] sbeattie to track down a list of the outstanding optional test cases for RC
[16:14] <MootBot> ACTION received:  sbeattie to track down a list of the outstanding optional test cases for RC
[16:15] <slangasek> (will try to get a summary of action items sent out while it's still relevant :)
[16:15] <slangasek> any other questions for QA?
[16:16] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Server Team
[16:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server Team
[16:16] <slangasek> sbeattie: thanks
[16:16] <slangasek> ttx: hi
[16:16] <ttx> hi!
[16:16] <ttx> Updated team status at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:17] <slangasek> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:17] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:17] <ttx> We have no bugs in the queue for release right now. There are a few candidates that might make it if processed in time
[16:17] <ttx> bug 533029
[16:17] <ttx> this one is pending a FFe review for the upstart script
[16:17] <slangasek> yes, will review that today
[16:17] <ttx> bug 563829 -- in progress and probably good to have
[16:18] <ttx> bug 565018 and bug 566792 affect running the cloud image on UEC, still under heavy investigation
[16:18] <ttx> and finally ScottK mentioned a ClamAV update
[16:18] <ttx> All the others were targeted for early SRU, since they are not RC
[16:19] <ttx> (and also listed on the page for easy reference)
[16:19] <ttx> We also started to list a few universe target of opportunity, since there will be a window for them pre-release
[16:20] <ttx> On the specs side, not much movement since last week, but they are not RC in any way
[16:20] <slangasek> pitti: I see you talked to ScottK about clamav, but it's still in the queue - no decision yet?
[16:20] <pitti> slangasek: I didn't have the guts to accept it yet; the debdiff is horribly big, and it changes a lot in all sorts of places
[16:20]  * slangasek nods
[16:20] <pitti> so this can only be dealt with by a lot of testing feedback
[16:21]  * ScottK votes trust sgran and accept, but ....
[16:21] <pitti> jdstrand: do you guys happen to have a clamav test in our testsuite bzr?
[16:21] <ScottK> pitti: There is.
[16:21] <ttx> The new mirrors on EC2 should be deployed by Monday, just in time for that work item to be completed
[16:22] <ttx> Nothing critical on other teams plate that we would urge you to consider for the pre-release queue
[16:22] <ttx> That's about it from server... questions ?
[16:23] <slangasek> no questions here; anyone else?
[16:23] <jdstrand> pitti: yes we do
[16:24] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Mobile Team
[16:24] <MootBot> New Topic:  Mobile Team
[16:24] <slangasek> ttx: thanks
[16:24] <ttx> slangasek: cheers -- I'll see some of you guys next week !
[16:24] <slangasek> ttx: ok, great :)
[16:24] <slangasek> asac: hi
[16:25] <asac> slangasek: hi
[16:25] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid
[16:25] <asac> i moved the bugs to SRU
[16:25] <asac> that we wont get in
[16:26] <asac> firefox issue is fix committed (or even uploaded)
[16:26] <pitti> uploaded, yes
[16:26] <asac> we are working on fix for 528887: maximus "maximus does not give default focus to newly started apps in combination with efl launcher"
[16:26]  * ogra cant belive how empty that page is
[16:26] <asac> and i am supposed to poke slangasek about reviewing 563618: util-linux: Ignoring a broken clock results in infinite reboots (omap)
[16:26] <asac> ;)
[16:26] <ogra> *g*
[16:26] <asac> which has a hack that feels more or less safe
[16:26] <slangasek> yeah. :)
[16:27] <slangasek> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid
[16:27] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid
[16:27] <asac> slangasek: you feel llike you can review that?
[16:27] <slangasek> yes
[16:27] <asac> or should we prepare more info etc. (not sure what we can do to help)
[16:27] <asac> ok great
[16:27] <asac> besides from that all board types are ready for release
[16:27] <asac> even though we would like to unseed evolution-indicator
[16:27] <asac> is there a way we can make you more comfortable about it?
[16:28] <asac> that would be [armel]
[16:28]  * ogra wasnt able to make up more intresting reasons for justifying a meta upload
[16:28] <slangasek> not really
[16:28] <asac> hmm. ok. i am fine to accept it ... we would certainly stand in line and test/verify and whatever you need
[16:28] <ogra> asac, be very creative ... probably you have better ideas :)
[16:28] <slangasek> as I said, unseeding things risks uncovering hidden package relationship bugs
[16:29]  * asac promise to send slangasek a great arm board ;)
[16:29] <slangasek> which we would have no time to identify and correct
[16:29] <pitti> asac: [!armel] please :)
[16:29] <asac> slangasek: understood. i am done
[16:29] <asac> see ...  noone wants that indicator ;)
[16:30] <asac> any questions?
[16:30] <pitti> asac: any specific reason to drop the indicator on armel?
[16:30] <asac> pitti: because we didnt want evolutoin ;)
[16:30] <ogra> pitti, it pulls in evo
[16:30] <asac> we have desktop-webmail
[16:30] <pitti> ah
[16:30] <asac> it slipped through :(
[16:30] <asac> but we will survive for sure
[16:30] <slangasek> yeah - sound reason, just too late to change for release
[16:30] <ogra> just bloats the image by 150M or so
[16:31] <slangasek> no questions here; anything else?
[16:31] <asac> thanks!!
[16:31] <asac> lets enjoy release ;)
[16:32] <ogra> \o/
[16:32] <asac> and kudos to release team ... hope you get some sleep still
[16:32] <ogra> and buy beagleboards !
[16:32] <asac> haha
[16:32] <slangasek> sleep> keep trying ;)
[16:32] <slangasek> beagleboards> why, I think I will ;P
[16:32] <asac> hoho
[16:32] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Kernel Team
[16:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel Team
[16:33] <slangasek> asac, ogra: thanks
[16:33] <slangasek> apw, ogasawara: hi
[16:33]  * apw pops up
[16:33] <apw> Overall Kernel Team status is summarised at the first URL below, including the items called out in the agenda.  There are only two open work-items for Lucid release and both are non-release related.  The burn-down chart shows us under the line for the first time in living memory:
[16:33] <apw> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid
[16:33] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-10.04.html
[16:33] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid
[16:33] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-10.04.html
[16:33] <apw> From the agenda, the kernel-lucid-kernel-config-review blueprint highlighted is now complete.  The final Lucid Kernel Configuration Report was published to ubuntu-devel today.
[16:33] <apw> The kernels have remained unchanges since last weeks upload.  The Dell suspend overheat issue has had a workaround preventing suspend applied to pm-utils so we are good for release.  The bug itself has now been identified and fixed, with that fix applied to the kernel tree ready for SRU once we are released.  We also are starting to accumulate fixes for several other issues.  It is likely we will aim for a first SRU within a week of release.
[16:33] <apw> <- done
[16:34] <slangasek> any questions?
[16:34] <pitti> apw: please let me know, I'll upload a reverted pm-utils then
[16:34] <apw> pitti, yes will interlock with you when it goes up
[16:35] <pitti> (or upload it yourself, then I can review and push teh SRU buttons :) )
[16:35] <apw> pitti, heh good plan
[16:36] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Desktop Team
[16:36] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop Team
[16:36] <slangasek> apw: thanks
[16:36] <slangasek> pitti: hi
[16:36] <pitti> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
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[16:36] <pitti> Work items: WIs milestoned for final are all done; there are some stragglers for the entire release, I asked people to clean them up; but nothing important left (those were milestoned)
[16:36] <pitti> RC bugs: The worst ones have been handled, remaining ones are fine for SRU
[16:36] <pitti> not much else to say today
[16:36] <pitti> I really strive to have bug 565981 fixed for final
[16:36] <pitti> (or rather, worked around)
[16:37] <pitti> other than that I think we're good for the golden release
[16:37] <Riddell> over in Kubuntu land...
[16:37] <slangasek> oh, that's the xorg-server upload that's not yet accepted?
[16:37] <Riddell>  * RC successful, no major issues
[16:37] <Riddell>  * http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 milestoned bugs down to two
[16:37] <Riddell>   * Bug:568890	"KDE frontend only allows bootloader installation to the MBR." assigned to ev, shouldn't be hard
[16:37] <Riddell>   * Bug:567243	"error during OEM setup in French" more of a mystery, needs someone familiar with installer to investigate
[16:37] <Riddell>  * Milestone removed from
[16:37] <Riddell>   * Bug:538505	"KDE frontend extremely slow reponsiveness / high CPU usage" agreed annoying but we can live with it
[16:37] <Riddell>   * Bug:542104	"KRes-migrator runs, starting Akonadi on a clean install" acceptable to live with this too
[16:39] <pitti> slangasek: yes, it has an additional bug fix which doesn't look obvious, and I suspect it was accidentally included
[16:40] <pitti> slangasek: I pinged bryceh, but he's still asleep
[16:40] <Riddell> we didn't get kubuntu netbook ARM images released, freeflying is testing now, hopefully he'll be able to test in time for final release
[16:40] <slangasek> pitti: I think there was some mention in scrollback of this; will dig it out after the meeting
[16:40] <pitti> slangasek: the actual patch reversion has been tested very thoroughly, and it's good to go
[16:41] <ogra> Riddell, in case you want to support omap there, that needs a respin to pick up some essential omap fixes
[16:41]  * pitti cheers the community for great feedback on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/GEMLeak
[16:41] <ogra> Riddell, only entered on the 22nd
[16:41] <Riddell> ogra: yes it'll get rebuilt before final for sure
[16:41] <ogra> oki
[16:42] <ogra> just wanted to warn
[16:42] <ogra> beagle users are just more likely to find and to be willing to help testing :)
[16:43] <slangasek> anything else?
[16:44]  * pitti done
[16:44] <slangasek> [TOPIC] DX Team
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[16:44] <davidbarth> hi
[16:44] <slangasek> pitti, Riddell: thanks
[16:44] <slangasek> davidbarth: hello
[16:44] <davidbarth> i don't have much to report this week
[16:45] <slangasek> I would worry if you did. :)
[16:45] <davidbarth> we have an update already uploaded for the sound indicator, a minor bug causing issues with pan/mono/stereo when using the slider
[16:45] <davidbarth> and cody also made a 1-line gtk patch to solve an issue with the bt indicator
[16:46] <davidbarth> nothing major
[16:46] <slangasek> sounds good.  there's one outstanding WI on a high-prio blueprint, dx-lucid-application-indicator:
[16:46] <slangasek> [agateau] document the dbusmenu protocol: TODO
[16:46] <davidbarth> we keep monitoring incoming bugs daily, but it seems we're on track for a solid LTS
[16:46] <slangasek> doesn't need to be done before release, but is that on the radar somewhere else?
[16:46] <davidbarth> and the reminder, yep ;)
[16:47] <davidbarth> that's on the radar for maverick and uds
[16:47] <davidbarth> so i guess i'll just postpone to get rid of that one and clean your list
[16:47] <seb128> davidbarth, where is the one line gtk change?
[16:47] <davidbarth> that's it for me
[16:47] <davidbarth> seb128: hmm, let me find the link
[16:48] <seb128> davidbarth, can you get a gtk ubuntu task open?
[16:48] <seb128> davidbarth, so we can work on a sru for it
[16:48] <davidbarth> seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/558841
[16:48] <seb128> davidbarth, thanks
[16:50] <slangasek> any other questions?
[16:51] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Foundations Team
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[16:51] <slangasek> davidbarth: thanks!
[16:51] <slangasek> cjwatson: hi
[16:51] <cjwatson> I don't have a detailed report this week, we're just playing bug whack-a-mole; the rate of inflow from RC has been pleasingly low though
[16:51]  * slangasek nods
[16:51] <cjwatson> now that several wide-blocking issues have been fixed, we're seeing attempts to use some of the weirder installation use cases
[16:52] <cjwatson> so there are some edge cases with things like raid and iscsi that have come up
[16:52] <slangasek> yes, I was happy to see those
[16:52] <slangasek> it means the iscsi optional test cases are getting exercised :)
[16:52] <cjwatson> indeed so
[16:52] <cjwatson> there's a new KDE/ubiquity boot loader configuration bug that's being worked
[16:53] <cjwatson> and you probably know more about the plymouth/mountall cluster than I do
[16:53] <slangasek> there are a goodly number of plymouth, mountall fixes staged; all blocked for upload by the plymouth side of the fix for bug #559761
[16:53] <cjwatson> other than that, and the OOo pre-depends chaos, I think we're in good shape, though Monday may be a little frenetic in London
[16:54] <slangasek> I don't know that I'll get to it today - if not, I'll work on it on the plane and should have an upload ready by Monday
[16:54] <cjwatson> oh, Michael has been working hard on getting the support-timeframe stuff landed in LP, and I believe that's now in
[16:54] <cjwatson> Package: ubiquity
[16:54] <cjwatson> Supported: 3y
[16:54] <Riddell> cjwatson: what's the KDE/ubiquity boot loader configuration bug?
[16:54] <cjwatson> he did an extensive review with the security folks this week, so the final WI should be all but done
[16:54] <cjwatson> Riddell: bug 568890, shtylman's on it
[16:54] <Riddell> hmm, kubuntu-desktop still says Supported: 18m
[16:54] <slangasek> I'm not getting bug #553745 by Monday, but I believe that's a plymouth segfault on shutdown so should stop being a hot issue now that apport is off by default
[16:55] <slangasek> (would like to fix it, but there was a discussion with upstream that seems to have petered out)
[16:56] <slangasek> mvo: ^^ did you know kubuntu seems to have the wrong supported: value still?
[16:56] <slangasek> mvo: I guess we hadn't marked the seeds on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseManifest, sorry
[16:57] <Riddell> I've spoken to mvo about this before so he should be aware of the issue
[16:57] <slangasek> ok
[16:58] <slangasek> cjwatson: anything else?
[16:58] <cjwatson> does the OOo pre-dep cluster need additional help at this point?
[16:59] <pitti> mvo mentioned that he wanted to finish some automatic upgrade tests before we accept it
[16:59] <cjwatson> ah yes, I saw that in #-release scrollback
[16:59] <cjwatson> other than that, I think everything is good
[16:59] <cjwatson> please shout loudly about anything that looks like an installer blocker - at this point we may not see it asynchronously in time
[17:00] <slangasek> bug #552560 is still blocked on the soyuz side, it seems; I think the software-center change should be deferred to SRU now
[17:00] <cjwatson> it's also not nearly so critical to have the partner Release file static for lucid from release
[17:00]  * slangasek nods
[17:01] <cjwatson> I'll bump the s-c task
[17:01] <slangasek> ok
[17:01] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Security Team
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[17:01] <slangasek> cjwatson: thanks
[17:02] <slangasek> jdstrand: hi
[17:02] <jdstrand> hi!
[17:02] <jdstrand> Nothing new to report really.
[17:02] <jdstrand> The recent gnome-keyring issue was discussed and handled wonderfully by pitti.
[17:02] <jdstrand> as mentioned, mvo and our team have been making sure that maintenance-check is in good shape (thanks mvo!)
[17:02] <jdstrand> Install audits are ongoing. Assuming nothing startling comes out of that, we are ready for release.
[17:02] <jdstrand> We will start targeting lucid-security for new non-critical security issues
[17:03]  * jdstrand is done
[17:03] <ScottK> There's a vlc upload in the queue that (among other things) has a security fix in it.
[17:03] <ScottK> It'd be good if someone could carve out time for a review.
[17:04] <jdstrand> ScottK: what kind of review are we talking about? is it not pure bugfix?
[17:04] <ScottK> jdstrand: I'm told it's bugfix, but it should be reviewed by somone who knows more about reading the code than me.
[17:05] <jdstrand> kees is on community this week, so I'll ask him about it and I'll process it if it's ok
[17:06] <slangasek> any other questions?
[17:07] <slangasek> [TOPIC] MOTU
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[17:07] <slangasek> jdstrand: thanks
[17:07] <jdstrand> slangasek: sure! :)
[17:07] <ScottK> Hello
[17:07] <slangasek> ScottK: hi
[17:08] <ScottK> We've still got a slow, but steady trickle of worthwhile uploads coming in.
[17:08] <ScottK> My thought though is to hold off until the language pack export gets built down.
[17:08] <ScottK> We'll have more than enough time to build any Universe stuff starting on Monday.
[17:08] <slangasek> fair
[17:09] <ScottK> Will someone be around Sunday/Monday who can process syncs?
[17:09]  * pitti <- Monday
[17:09] <ScottK> I've been encouraging people not to do direct uploads with pitti's script when a sync will do.
[17:09] <james_w> I'll probably be around for at least one round of syncs on Sunday
[17:09] <ScottK> OK.
[17:09] <slangasek> Lucas's latest rebuild results were nice to see, > 25% of FTBFS resolved since the 10th
[17:09] <ScottK> Great.
[17:09] <slangasek> not perfect, but nice
[17:09] <ScottK> Yes
[17:10] <ScottK> I didn't get a chance to dig into the results yet though.
[17:10] <slangasek> I probably won't be available Sunday at all, but Monday yes
[17:10] <ScottK> Also there are a fair number of removal bugs waiting archive attention
[17:10] <ScottK> I'd prefer if we could do those sooner rather that later so they don't get forgotten
[17:10]  * slangasek nods
[17:11] <ScottK> That's all I've got.
[17:11] <slangasek> any questions?
[17:11] <slangasek> ScottK: thanks
[17:12] <slangasek> [AOB]
[17:12] <cjwatson> language packs> the extra i386 buildd should help
[17:12] <ScottK> Definitely
[17:12] <cjwatson> translation imports are still backed up to the 17th
[17:12] <cjwatson> but there's probably not much we can do about that
[17:12] <ScottK> Bug 496093 could stand having someone who understands wireless issues sort through it
[17:12] <ScottK> I'm not even sure how to write the release note at the moment.
[17:13] <slangasek> one thing I would ask is that those who aren't already up to their eyeballs in fixing critical bugs take some time to look over https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=regression-potential to help make sure we haven't overlooked anything that should be milestoned
[17:14] <slangasek> asac: do you have any time to triage that?
[17:14] <slangasek> if not, I'll give it a shot, at least for the release notes side
[17:15] <ScottK> Someone ought to at least tell them "No, we aren't going to include a second, hacked kernel on the CD to fix this"
[17:15] <slangasek> anything else?
[17:15] <slangasek> heh, quite
[17:16] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[17:16] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:16.
[17:16] <slangasek> thanks, folks
[17:16] <slangasek> have a good weekend :)
[17:17] <cjwatson> travel safe
[17:17] <james_w> you too
[17:17] <apw> see you all
[17:17] <pitti> thanks all
[17:17]  * pitti cd /de/Munich
[17:17] <ogra> oh, you are all going to the london holiday ? :)
[17:17] <jdstrand> o/
[17:17]  * ogra heard the weather is nice, enjoy
[17:18] <cjwatson> yes, nice high pressure keeping the ash off us
[17:18] <ogra> heh
[17:19] <slangasek> :-)