[01:47] asac - there? [05:13] fta: xul193 fixed if you want to push again [09:11] TGIF \m/ [09:16] * cwillu_at_work grumbles [09:17] that's not a happy panda [09:18] ooo, I still have pizza [09:19] ...can i have some? [09:19] my boss is going to arrive in 4 hours, say good morning, do a double take, and wear a look of wondering amusement that I'm still wearing the same clothes as the last 2 times he said goodmorning [09:20] * cwillu_at_work orders a suit from amazon with free overnight delivery [09:20] you've been at work for two days straight? [09:20] kinda sorta; I've been home for 5 minutes in the last 72 hours [09:21] ...the pizza is all yours [09:21] yes, yes it is [09:21] * cwillu_at_work starts playing video games: image is compiling [09:26] pizza is all done :( [09:26] that went quick o.o [09:27] anyway, 3:30am, i shouldn't still be up, sleep time...good luck cwillu_at_work === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [10:40] hey asac - did you intend to change the version number and set the distroseries from UNRELEASED to lucid with http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.6.head/revision/586 ? [11:08] anyone here yet? === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [11:12] nope [11:14] thanks [11:26] BUGabundo_remote: do you know how to pin a package in Lucid? what i tried doesnt work [11:31] something i am doing is wrong [11:36] never had much luck with it [11:36] I can't even downgrade packages :S [11:38] ah ok [11:38] * gnomefreak will ask in +1 when i get back [11:49] i guess songbird is still FTBFS === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [12:26] gnomefreak, there's a few different ways of pinning packages, it what makes life fun [12:27] cwillu_at_work: i have tried everything that i could think of. but i have one more test [12:27] honestly, the best way is probably for somebody to make a nice tool to create meta-packages which depend on specific versions; then the rest of the tools can be leveraged (i.e., dependency handling, package removal, etc) [12:28] apt-get install pin-aptitude-3.2.3 or some such [12:29] cwillu_at_work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/420984/ this is my /etc/apt/preferences.d/ubuntu-mozilla-daily-pin-400 [12:29] ya, those pins are worthless [12:29] that fails. even if i put on separate lines [12:29] what are you trying to do exactly? [12:30] pin firefox to ubuntu version since daily one is broken [12:30] i used everything since just firefox-* didnt work [12:30] what do you use to install/upgrade usually? [12:31] cwillu_at_work: apt. i also used synaptic to hold the packages back didnt work either [12:31] ya, they've got separate mechanisms, each and every one [12:31] give me one sec [12:31] cwillu_at_work: ok [12:32] that is unless micah or asac fixed the hanging/slow ..ect [12:33] there's a tool that lets you 'fake' out a package for dependency purposes, I wanted to check if it can specify dependencies [12:35] cwillu_at_work: thanks, also i would love if it is easy to reverse the pin but lets try one thing at a time [12:35] that's actually what I'm going for :) [12:36] :) [12:36] ill be back in a few minutes [12:42] ok im thinking if it works i will update the wiki again [12:42] just testing something, one sec [12:42] cwillu_at_work: take your time [12:43] no, it's a matter of life and death [12:44] okay, you can abuse checkinstall: "sudo checkinstall bash", and then enter a depends as so: firefox (= version) (or <, >, <=, >=) [12:44] in fact, make that sudo checkinstall true [12:44] it'll install the package (name it appropriately), which will then hold that package to the required version [12:44] you can supply multiple dependencies [12:45] firefox isn't the package you want to depend on I don't think, but the technique works [12:45] and then you can simply allow the update manager or aptitude or whichever to remove that package when you want to remove the pin [12:45] gnomefreak, ^ [12:45] cwillu_at_work: you mean that i have to add firefox (=$ubuntuversion) [12:45] yes [12:45] in option 10 [12:46] ooo, you can supply that from the command line actually [12:46] checkinstall ---requires=... [12:46] last i remember checkinstall to install packages that you built [12:46] yep, but it's a generic tool [12:47] if you don't supply a command, it automatically runs "make install", but it can run any command instead [12:47] I'm telling it to use /bin/true (which doesn't do anything), to make an empty package that just depends on firefox [12:47] ok so the text i would use is sudo checkinstall (firefox-*) that will hold all firefox packages? [12:47] no [12:48] sudo checkinstall --requires "firefox-... (= version...)" true [12:48] cwillu_at_work: firefox no longer has a version in our pakcages [12:48] add a -y if you just want to take defaults for the options [12:49] gnomefreak, yes, that's why I said you need to choose the right packages to depend on :p [12:49] I'd expect that you can just depend on firefox-3.x, the rest of the packages will follow along [12:49] might need xulrunner too, not sure [12:49] but you shouldn't need to pin -gnome-support [12:49] cwillu_at_work: not really since i want the 3.7 updates [12:50] ... you know what I mean [12:50] you could also conflict with a specific version [12:51] although I don't think checkinstall exposes that [12:51] the --review-control option might let you add one though [12:51] the ... should be replaced with the version numbers? [12:52] >>> --requires "firefox (=3.5.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1)" <<< is the test that I did, for reference [12:54] ah so all i have to do with that command is change the version to the one im using 3.6.4....... [12:54] yep [12:54] and the package name [12:56] at some point I might write an actual tool for this purpose; I'm not sure why people ever got on to this 101 ways to pin a package when the dependency resolution already does what you want most of the time [12:56] yea package name is firefox (i shouldnt need to do this for each package -gnome-support -* xul* [12:56] ) [12:58] i would think it would be a simple script but instead of package name use $PACKAGE and ofcourse $VERSION but i havent looked at scripts in years. im not sure if that is possible [13:01] it's harder to make a simple tool than a complex tool [13:01] oh [13:01] the idea being to handle the common cases, and figure out what the Right Thing to do actually is [13:01] of course, a point and clicky would be nice too :) [13:03] i dont recall alot of python but i would think stay away from java. i dont think bash script will do a UI or at least easy [13:04] I'd probably write a commandline bash script first, and then either rewrite it in python or c [13:05] i never did get the hang of C and that was the first lang. i tried [13:09] it took me ~6 months to get as far as to name the script and figure out what i wanted it to do, but i still havent touched it since its likely not to be that easy but its not important enough to me to work on it every day [13:26] my parents got me a c tutor when I was 9 :p [13:26] lolol [13:26] does this mean [13:26] /home/bugabundo/Desktop/desktop_20100423-1_amd64.deb [13:26] will install ALL my current packages?? [13:26] cwillu ^^^^ [13:26] I don't know, what is that? [13:26] is it huge? [13:27] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 602 2010-04-23 13:26 /home/bugabundo/Desktop/desktop_20100423-1_amd64.deb [13:27] no [13:27] ======================== Installation successful ========================== [13:27] cp: cannot stat `//var/tmp/tmp.l42D3u3yM0/newfiles.tmp': No such file or directory [13:27] grep: /var/tmp/tmp.l42D3u3yM0/newfile: No such file or directory [13:27] I think I'm missing some context here :) [13:27] I run $ sudo checkinstall true [13:27] it made that [13:28] okay, you made an utterly empty package :p [13:28] yep [13:28] it doesn't depend on anything, it doesn't provide anything, it doesn't contain anythiing [13:32] * cwillu_at_work pokes BUGabundo_remote in the friday === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [14:57] hi chrisccoulson_ [15:05] hey micahg, how are you? [15:05] chrisccoulson_: k, I was wondering if you have any idea about bug 561323 [15:05] Launchpad bug 561323 in thunderbird "Thunderbird exits immediately without error message " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/561323 [15:06] micahg - that was reported before the breakage with the profiles wasn't it? [15:06] chrisccoulson_: yeah, I think so, also the shell output doesn't match the profile issue [15:07] maybe I should ask anyways about the profiles [15:07] yeah, the shell output doesn't really help much. perhaps host a build with --enable-debug in a PPA and ask the reporter to try that? [15:07] sometimes the output is quite useful then [15:08] (well, it is with FF, i haven't tried it with TB before) [15:09] i suspect that the original reporter and the most recent comments are different issues [15:09] (with the recent comment being the profile issue) [15:15] asac: is there going to be another ubufox upload, are we going to hack a fix for the translate menu or wait until we can move to unversioned tranlation templates in LP? [15:18] chrisccoulson_: my only guess is an old extension, so that's what I posted [15:27] chrisccoulson_: also, apparently for Mediatomb, the config file is based on JS being enabled [15:28] micahg - yeah, i saw that too [15:57] chrisccoulson_: do you have time for the conkeror update? [15:57] micahg - yeah, i can do that [16:04] chrisccoulson_: is there something besides the rules file that affects the path that' [16:04] s used in it? [17:00] chrisccoulson_: did you have a chance to look at the gtkentry class yet? [17:01] i started looking at it a little while ago. i can make it crash anyway ;) === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [17:13] chrisccoulson_: heh ok :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:50] hooray! Seamonkey 2 seems to be working...I'll push to test PPA [18:55] chrisccoulson: I'm guessing I should import the seamonkey 1 changelog into seamonkey 2, rihgt? [19:07] nikolam: SM2 package should build in my PPA in about an hour, once it's built, I'll send out a call for testing [19:10] micahg - yeah, that makes sense [19:11] chrisccoulson: k, I'll clean it up Sat night, will you be around Sun UTC afternoon? [19:11] micahg - yeah, i'll be hovering around occasionally [19:11] the frequency depends on how nice the weather is ;) [19:12] chrisccoulson: k, ScottK said to get it in as soon as possible, so I'll just ping whoever when it's ready :) [19:12] chrisccoulson: I'm also going to send out a call for testing when it builds in my PPA (in the bug, ML, identi.ca), sound good? [19:13] yeah, sounds good [19:13] chrisccoulson: now is it sufficient to get them to test the working version I got not necessarily the version from bzr? (I haven't merged teh changes back into the branch yet) [19:14] it should be sufficient as long as there are no real packaging or code differences [19:14] chrisccoulson: there shouldn't be unless I miss something when I merge it back in, I'll compare the diffs to make sure though [19:27] gnomefreak: SM2 building in my PPA [19:28] micahg: thanks. [19:28] gnomefreak: I'll tell you which PPA after it builds :) [19:28] micahg: thats good [19:29] micahg: you didnt happen to fix the slow hanging or whatever you call it with the daily? [19:29] gnomefreak: 3.7? [19:29] micahg: no well that has the same issue IIRC 3.6 is the one i know for sure. ill test 3.7 now [19:30] gnomefreak: 3.7 I'll fix this weekend [19:30] it's missing plugin-container for the new OOPP [19:30] gnomefreak: AFAIK, 3.6 is fine, I need something more specific to track down an issue [19:30] micahg: im not sure how that would cause the browser to be slow [19:30] gnomefreak: addon incompatability? [19:30] lool 3.7 doesnt start [19:31] micahg: maybe. ill test and let you know [19:31] gnomefreak: check for weird errors on Error Console on 3.6 [19:31] k [19:32] chrisccoulson: what's happening with lightning in lucid? [19:32] micahg - good question, you started a ML discussion some time ago didn't you? [19:32] chrisccoulson: idr [19:32] chrisccoulson: oh yeah, an off list discussion [19:32] i think you did, but i don't remember what was discussed now [19:32] ah [19:32] yes [19:33] chrisccoulson: so, I think we were just going to package lightning the extension in Lucid and maybe push sundbird to a PPA [19:34] ok, sounds good. i'm not familiar with how it's packaged at the moment though, isn't it all from the same source package? [19:34] chrisccoulson: neither am I, ATM, I think it is the same source [19:35] so, it might be difficult to split it then [19:35] * micahg is not sure how to handle it [19:35] it is [19:35] and the plan is that lightning will be merged in to tb 3.1? [19:35] chrisccoulson: well, we can just not build sunbird, I don't think we'll get an FFe to change source name at this point [19:35] chrisccoulson: idk, haven't been keeping up on that [19:35] * gnomefreak hopes to hell not but upstream has been thinking of doing that [19:36] * micahg wishes __Tsk__ was around [19:36] micahg: you are building SM2 the right way? with all the binaries? [19:36] micahg - ok, so not building sunbird could be a possibility. tbh, i'd need to look at it though to see what the most workable solution would be [19:36] gnomefreak: yes [19:36] micahg: thanks [19:36] gnomefreak: I used the branch that asac worked on a while ago [19:37] 2.0 branch? [19:37] gnomefreak: yep [19:37] that was my baby [19:37] gnomefreak: I moved mozclient configs in source and updated the patches for SM2 [19:37] i stopped when it was grabbing 2.1 source [19:37] micahg: thanks [19:38] gnomefreak: it behaves like FF/TB for building [19:38] should [19:38] micahg, ok. recieved [19:39] gnomefreak: for Maverick I want to clean up the packages and improve documentation so others can easily jump in [19:39] chrisccoulson: micahg lightning-sunbird is fairly simple to build, very little issues that i have found [19:40] micahg: is that 2.1? [19:40] gnomefreak: is what 2.1? [19:40] gnomefreak, are you volunteering to update it there? ;) [19:40] Maverick [19:40] gnomefreak: I meant for all team packages [19:40] maverick is the next Ubuntu release :) [19:40] chrisccoulson: i dont have time, i wish i did [19:40] oh [19:40] oops [19:40] :) [19:41] chrisccoulson: i stopped becuase it was grbbing 0.9 no matter what i tried, than personal life has been well long [19:42] chrisccoulson: if you meant by same source (upstream?) atm it grabs the latest stable release for both and we build the source [19:42] chrisccoulson: feel free to use our branch it is in good shape last i looked [19:43] chrisccoulson: I'll do it if I can get some help next week with hardy/Jaunty porting :) [19:43] for 3.6? [19:43] gnomefreak: no, xul insecure rdepends [19:43] oh [19:43] micahg - ok, feel free. hardy porting is going to be quite high priority next week :) [19:43] i need to start getting involved with that too [19:44] gnomefreak: will you be around Sunday for questions with lightning packaging? [19:44] micahg: yeah i can be [19:44] i have to work on paper work so i can be here for a while [19:44] chrisccoulson: Once I finish hardy, I figure jaunty should be easy since we have the hardy(192), karmic (191), and lucid(192) patches [19:45] * gnomefreak be back in a few [19:45] gnomefreak: k, I'll probably be working on it in the afternoon CDT [19:45] micahg - yeah, jaunty should be easier, and i think hardy is higher priority anyway (as it's supported for longer) [19:45] isnt htat like +400 [19:45] that [19:45] chrisccoulson: yep, makes sense [19:46] gnomefreak: CDT is UTC -5 [19:46] oh [19:46] thats only 1 hour different from me [19:47] gnomefreak: yep [19:48] fairly sure the following isnt causing it, i havent looked it up yet though edge.launchpad.net : potentially vulnerable to CVE-2009-3555 [19:48] The TLS protocol, and the SSL protocol 3.0 and possibly earlier, as used in Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.0, mod_ssl in the Apache HTTP Server 2.2.14 and earlier, OpenSSL before 0.9.8l, GnuTLS 2.8.5 and earlier, Mozilla Network Security Services (NSS) 3.12.4 and earlier, multiple Cisco products, and other products, does not properly associate renegotiation handshakes with an existing connection, which allows man-in-the-middl [19:48] ha bot does CVE [19:50] 3.6 works normal it seems [19:50] now [19:50] gnomefreak: great news :) [19:54] ok 3.7 is broken now and yes good chance it is OOPP related [19:54] * gnomefreak be back in a few [20:03] * gnomefreak working on getting that yellow damn bar off tb3 found it was caused by the extension bugmail [20:10] gnomefreak - whats your issue (i just saw you quoted that CVE there) [20:11] chrisccoulson: i found that in error console when checking what was causing my issue but issue is fixed [20:11] chrisccoulson: xul based apps now warn about that CVE if it's encountered [20:11] ah, ok, i didn't realise that [20:11] been >1 month IIRC [20:11] chrisccoulson: now it seems to show up for edge [20:12] hes not here :( [20:27] are we waiting on the xul porting before pushing 3.6 to gnomefreak: well, the plan is to push out with the when the next 3.5.x release is made to push 3.6 + rdepends to Hardy and Jaunty [20:28] gnomefreak: karmic has a little more time [20:28] k [20:30] * micahg hopes 1.9.2 is supported through Apr 2011 :) [20:37] we are not providing support for kazehakaze in any version of Ubuntu right? [20:37] we == Ubuntu [20:38] gnomefreak: < lucid [20:39] i thought we dropped it from archives due to upstream support [20:39] gnomefreak: it's last resort to stop supporting something from a stable release [20:39] gnomefreak: yeah, but we still have to support it till Apr 2011 [20:40] bugs can be lost by than ;) [20:40] micahg: that's probably okay-ish [20:40] it'll be close to that, at least [20:40] gnomefreak: actually, more so don't want to support kazekhase than lack of upstream I think [20:41] mconnor: k, was just a hope, we'll make it work either way [20:42] micahg: pretty sure 6 months will still be the case [20:43] mconnor: well, I figured that support might be extended as it's the last version to support OS X 10.4 (yes I read most of that thread and I still don't know why) [20:44] (really? I can sum up in a couple sentences...) [20:44] mconnor: I meant I don't know why I bothered reading it, I know why you dropped support :) [20:44] oh, haha [20:45] it's an interesting topic, sort of [20:45] I mean, it's ideology vs. other ideology vs. pragmatism [20:47] mconnor: yeah, it was interesting [20:48] shit micahg are we wanting to remove SAunbird-0.9 from Lucid? [20:48] gnomefreak: I think so [20:49] we need to do it than. only ~ 1week until we no longer can [20:49] gnomefreak: yes [20:51] micahg: thanks [20:51] gnomefreak: are sunbird-locales only for sunbird or for lightning too? [20:51] both [20:52] * gnomefreak would have to look to be sure [20:53] gnomefreak: k, it's too late to change the source package, so I figured we just wouldn't build sunbird [20:53] and we change the locales package to depend on lightning insteam [20:53] *instead [20:54] gnomefreak: SM2 done: https://launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test [20:54] sounds good to me. archive admins are likely no tto like having sunbird cruft in a package we are not using to build [20:54] micahg: thanks [21:00] thats not good :( [21:01] micahg: the package you built doesnt update from joes package ( although i really didnt expect it to but maybe it should?) [21:02] 2.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2-joe1~lucid should in theroy update to 2.0.4 [21:03] gnomefreak: no, it shouldn't his is seamonkey2 [21:03] oh thats it [21:03] that would explain why the diff was 1.* === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_diner [21:10] * micahg orders a burger from BUGabundo_diner [21:13] micahg: i had asked this about SM2 but it looks like latest tb3 update is having this issue. where it asks you for password before it opens. see bug 567480 (not sure why 2) [21:13] Launchpad bug 567480 in thunderbird "Double simultaneous password request" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/567480 [21:13] i was told mozilla did it for SM2 i never saw it in tb [21:13] gnomefreak: I meant to confirm it [21:13] gnomefreak: SM2 and TB3 have the same mail backend [21:14] i saw it in the browser [21:14] so maybe it is a bit different [21:14] gnomefreak: I think it's a xul191 thing, needs research in bmo === BUGabundo_diner is now known as BUGabundo [21:31] micahg: rare or medium ? [21:31] BUGabundo: medium [21:32] one comes right up [21:32] medium-rare please :) be back smoke [21:36] gnomefreak: this is a SMOKE FREE dinner [21:38] luckily its not here ;) [21:38] my sister is going to yell at me next time i call her or when she calls me after getting my email [21:39] we never got apport hooks for all mozilla packages nor any PPA packages right? [21:40] gnomefreak: another possible maverick project [21:40] micahg: i thought that was Lucid project but Maverick works for me [21:41] micahg: i marked the tb3 bug (password) confirmed for you i hope that is what you meant [21:41] if not :P [21:41] gnomefreak: yep [21:41] gnomefreak: I missed the blueprint then [21:42] micahg: served http://acidcow.com/pics/20100423/acid_picdump_138.jpg [21:42] i saw a bug on it not blueprint but i cant find bug either now [21:45] i made a facebook account to use for 2 people not 2 that i have told about it yet. but the 2 people that have asked to follow/whatever its called have asked 1 my sisters ex, i havent spoke to in ~5years and the other hit my sisters car with a snow plow on the front of his truck, i have not even made a comment on it how the hell are they finding me [21:50] maybe they are seeing you pop up in the 'you might know' section [21:51] i wish i would have known that :( ok i guess i tell them to go and *****. thanks chrisccoulson [21:51] oops [21:51] ccheney: [21:53] ok looks like im done for the day. everything else can wait until sunday-> fri. next week. === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [22:18] * micahg is wondering why BUGabundo gave cookies in place of a burger [22:19] sorry [22:19] here is a replacement with extra *sauce*