/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/04/23/#ubuntu-server.txt

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HajuuHey guys - What would be the most likely place to find a log of why my server keeps dropping its network connection?00:42
Hajuu:)00:42
Rafael_Executing: rsync.exe  -v -rlt -z --chmod=a=rw,Da+x --delete --exclude="/cygdrive/D/My Documents/Charts/Search" "/cygdrive/D/My Documents/" "192.168.1.11::backuptest/My Documents/"00:43
Rafael_sending incremental file list00:43
Rafael_rsync: send_files failed to open "/cygdrive/D/My Documents/Charts/Search/Data/Applications/Windows/MSS.log": Device or resource busy (16)00:43
Rafael_anybody can tell me why is tha msitake00:43
Hajuumsitake lol00:43
qman__Rafael_, the file is currently open in a program and can't be copied00:45
Rafael_qman__ that is why is being excluded..i want to exclude that fodler00:45
Rafael_--exclude="/cygdrive/D/My Documents/Charts/Search"00:46
Rafael_qman__ any idea?00:46
qman__ --exclude="/cygdrive/D/My Documents/Charts/Search**"00:50
qman__for more info, see the manual00:50
HajuuHey guys - What would be the most likely place to find a log of why my server keeps dropping its network connection?00:51
qman__Hajuu, dmesg00:51
Hajuueven after rebooting it?00:53
Hajuucause I really dont want to haul out a monitor and connect it etc00:53
qman__I think it logs dmesg by default00:56
qman__ /var/log/dmesg00:56
Hajuusweet lemme check it out00:57
Hajuuhmm00:58
Hajuunothing particularly helpful that I can see00:58
Hajuuthe last line is;00:59
Hajuu[42949408.800000] eth0: no IPv6 routers present00:59
Hajuubut im using ipv4, so thats not a problem00:59
HajuuIt always works if I restart the server again00:59
Hajuuis there maybe like, some way to make a connection auto-reconnect?00:59
Hajuuor would I have to make some daemon script for that?01:00
Hajuutheres a possibility its as simple as my router making its lease expire and it isnt getting a new one01:01
Hajuulike, automatically01:01
Hajuubut I obviously cant ssh in to restart networking01:01
qman__well, if there's no log there, as far as the kernel is concerned, everything is working01:10
Hajuuwell, I definately cant connect :P01:10
qman__check the dhcp logs, and if there's nothing there, I'd suggest a driver or hardware issue01:10
Hajuumeh I dont see how itd be a driver or hardware issue (except the router maybe)01:10
Hajuucause like, it works when it first starts up01:11
Hajuuand I bet if I did /etc/init.d/networking restart itd probably come back up01:11
Hajuuill check anyway.01:11
HajuuI don't seem to have a dhcp log01:11
qman__looks like that goes in /var/log/daemon.log01:13
qman__I'm also seeing some in /var/log/syslog01:13
Hajuuonly logs in daemon.log are about mysql doing stuff01:14
Hajuuand I couldnt see anything in syslog01:14
Hajuuill paste what it gives me01:14
Hajuu(not here, obviously :P)01:14
Hajuuhttp://pastebin.com/xgZvM6wx01:16
Hajuuthats the last few lines of my syslog01:16
Hajuuso it obviously shows it connecting01:16
Hajuuthen nothing after that01:16
qman__when I do a grep -i dhcp, I get stuff like this01:17
qman__Apr 22 18:03:41 mediaopty dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.7 on eth2 to 66.227.157.119 port 6701:17
qman__Apr 22 18:03:41 mediaopty dhclient: DHCPACK of 192.168.1.7 from 192.168.1.101:17
qman__in daemon.log, and a few in syslog01:17
Hajuuhow do you do that command, sorry?01:18
qman__grep -i dhcp /var/log/daemon.log01:18
qman__or01:18
qman__grep -i dhclient /var/log/daemon.log01:18
Hajuunot getting anything for either of those in daemon.log or in syslog01:19
qman__then dhcp is probably not running01:19
Hajuuwhich is strange, since I am using dhcp to issue a static address01:19
qman__what's your /etc/network/interfaces look like?01:19
Hajuuas far as I remember01:19
qman__you mean a dhcp reservation01:19
Hajuuyeah01:20
Hajuuauto eth001:20
Hajuuiface eth0 inet dhcp01:20
qman__yeah, you should be getting some dhclient messages somewhere then01:20
qman__try grep -iR dhclient /var/log01:20
qman__see if you get anything back01:20
Hajuuahh yeah there we go01:21
Hajuufor some reason in /var/log/installer/syslog01:21
Hajuuoh01:21
Hajuuand in /var/log/daemon.log.0 too01:21
Hajuulots in there01:21
qman__ok, so it was working at one time01:21
qman__it just hasn't gotten any since the last log rotation01:22
qman__head /var/log/daemon.log to see when it rotated01:22
Hajuuman01:22
Hajuuit wont let me paste these log lines lol01:22
Hajuu/var/log/daemon.log.0:May  5 05:24:48 liveSRV dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received.01:22
Hajuu/var/log/daemon.log.0:May  5 05:24:48 liveSRV dhclient: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.01:22
qman__that's the most recent?01:23
qman__also, may 5?01:23
Hajuuwell like I say01:23
Hajuutheres no logs at all for that in daemon.log01:23
Hajuuonly in daemon.log.001:23
Hajuuits date is probably wrong01:23
Hajuulol01:23
qman__ok01:23
qman__well, date and time is pretty important, especially for SSL01:24
Hajuussl is all working01:24
Hajuueverything works01:24
Hajuuexcept every few days01:24
Hajuuit becomes disconnected01:24
Hajuuand I have to either haul out a keyboard and monitor01:24
Hajuuor restart the thing (which is what I do)01:25
Hajuuits just a dev server01:25
Hajuubut its inconvienient to not just be able to fire up my dev stuff and get to work01:25
handheldCaranybody know which mail server ubuntu server installs during the software selection?01:40
qman__handheldCar, postfix+dovecot01:40
nealmcb_handheldCar: typically I think postfix is the favorite01:40
persiaIt's up to the user, but postfix is recommended01:40
qman__tasksel uses postfix and dovecot01:41
qman__exim is also a supported configuration01:41
qman__but most people use postfix01:41
handheldCarThat's what I want.01:41
nealmcb_it is nicely integrated with other mail services in tasksel01:41
qman__I like postfix, it's really easy to set up with debconf, and lots of people use it01:42
qman__so it's easy to find information on special configurations01:42
handheldCarDoes anyone use some alternative package instead of vim-nox? Last I checked, it wasn't available.01:44
smoserhggdh, here makes more sense01:52
hggdhheh01:52
smoserso... ther eisn't by chance another dhcp server running in that lab somewhere is ther e?01:52
smoserdid you see my comments https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/56679201:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 566792 in eucalyptus "UEC guests sometimes fail on consuming user data (metadata service isn't ready)" [High,Confirmed]01:52
smoserthat was the root cause of many (unfortunately not all) of my failures.01:52
hggdhI do not know... up to now I do not know the whole net setup there :-(01:52
hggdhyes, I saw it, and I wondered also01:53
hggdhone way is to sniff for DHCP server offers01:53
smoserright01:53
smosereasy enoug to do on the CC01:53
smoserit would see all of them01:53
hggdhyeah01:53
smoserwell, maybe it wouldn't though01:54
hggdhwant me to start one? I am running a test there01:54
smoserare responses broadcast01:54
smoser?01:54
smoserit might not see the NCs response01:54
smoserlet me look in my logs01:54
hggdhas long as they go through the same subnet we are listening to, yes, we can get the responses01:54
hggdhsmoser: there is also a bit of news -- I moved back to topo1; I have run, so far, 120 instances, and *no* errors01:56
* hggdh wonders01:56
smoserhm..01:56
smosertopo1 is all-in-one + NC01:56
smoser?01:56
hggdhI am in the middle of a 400-instance right now01:57
hggdhand yes, topo1 is CLC+CC+SC, and 5 NCs01:57
hggdher, walrus also01:57
smoserwhat topo did we see the success and blank instance-id from ?01:58
hggdhtopo201:59
smoserwhat is that ?01:59
hggdhone machine each for CLC, walrus, CC and SC, 2 for NC01:59
SpaceBasslost power, hard drop and now my software raid5 won't come back - seem to have lost superblocks, any way to recover?02:00
hggdhbrb -- time to eat02:00
mathiazsmoser: hggdh: there is a dhcp server on the UEC network but it should *not* hand out lease to unknown hosts02:35
smosermathiaz, thanks.02:36
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hggdhand, meanwhile, 100% success on topo103:02
hggdhexcept memory usage is growing03:04
flybackis it just me03:47
flybackor is squashfs a fucking failure03:47
flybackevery machine I seen it on03:47
flybackeventually starts spitting out massive errors03:47
flybackcdrom or flash03:47
persia!ohmy | flyback03:52
ubottuflyback: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.03:52
persiaBut generally, I think it's only best to use for short-term read-only stuff.03:52
* flyback laughs03:53
flybackyou know what you get for a lifetime of being nice to others03:54
flybackfucked over03:54
flybackyou get me03:54
handheldCaru get 2 stand up 4 yourself every now and then.04:00
persiastanding up for oneself is fine.  Seeking support or to improve collaboratively-maintained software is best done by being nice to other folks with whom one collaborates.04:02
persiaThe catching more flies with honey than vinegar thing.04:02
* handheldCar was just speaking in regards to flyback being a push over, taking kindness to extreme.04:03
persiaYeah.  flyback /parted though :)04:05
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uvirtbotNew bug: #417380 in nmap (main) "wrong paths in zenmap *.destop-launchers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41738005:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #568823 in tomcat6 (main) "Improved Java Memory/Performance Defaults" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56882307:02
LantiziaHey UEC, why?07:18
LantiziaI know it's a very generic question, but I've read as much information I can find and I don't see why I should bother.... Surely theres OpenVZ and KVM07:19
twbLantizia: they divide up the resources of a single host.07:20
Lantiziaso does OpenVZ07:20
twbI was talking about VZ and KVM.07:20
twbUEC doesn't do that07:20
Lantiziaok confused07:21
twbLantizia: the purpose of a cloud is to distribute a virtual host across a number of physical hosts, theoretically making it easier to scale resource allocation up/down as demand requires, and possibly improving reliability.07:21
Lantiziaagain... done... you can migrate servers without downtime with either of those 207:22
twbI'm assuming that clouds run a virtual host on multiple hosts *CONCURRENTLY*.07:22
Lantiziahmm thats an advantage I guess07:23
twbhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing07:23
Lantiziatwb, by that definition then... even VMware's ESX isn't cloud07:25
Lantiziabecause it can't run a machine concurrently on two heads at once and keep them synced07:25
ttxtwb: you have a strange definition of cloud computing07:27
ttxcloud computing is just "utility computing"07:28
persiaThat's also a bit of a strange definition, I think.07:28
Lantiziattx, i.e. run an "appliance" "up there"07:28
Lantizialol07:29
persiaThere's an assuption of some abstraction in "cloud": e.g. storage-as-a-service+cpu-as-a-service combining.07:29
ttxOn Demand Service, Ubiquitous Network Access, Location Independent Resource Pooling, Rapid Elasticity, Measured Service07:29
Lantiziacan I just chalk "cloud" computing as a silly sales buzz word and think nothing more of it except it's just virtualisation07:29
ttxLantizia: no07:29
persiaOften also combined with multiple layers of service, so one has an app that restfully coordinates with other apps, without any knowledge of how many hosts serve the apps, etc.07:30
ttxIt's a technology transition07:30
Lantiziabuzz buzz buzz07:30
ttxnot really, all technologies go through that type of transition, why not computing ?07:30
persiaLantizia: Note really.  It's about persistance.  So if I have a server (real, virtual, whatever), I typically expect it to run for a while, and do cronjobs, etc.07:30
Lantiziaso if it's not just a buzz word... then it's twb's definition07:31
ttxBut I'd agree it's difficult to see clear through the hype07:31
Lantiziaby the very fact it's "cloud" computing it means it's not limited to just 1 location07:31
persiaIf I have a cloud app, it's quite likely to be composed of a demand-based set of hosts running each layer of an app, where the servers are created and destroyed in minutes based on use.07:31
Lantiziabut by that I don't just mean high availability either... thats something else lol07:31
ttxLantizia: you can build HA on top of cloud computing... but using cloud won't make all your things HA by magic07:32
ttxit's just a different way to offer and consume computing resources07:32
Lantiziafluff, lots of fluff07:33
ttxtechnology maturity makes it more and more of a commodity07:33
twbLantizia: ESX is certainly not cloud computing.07:33
ttxlike electricity07:33
ttxtwb: right, ESX is just managed virtualization07:33
Lantiziai don't get why you've argued against twb's position then ... when he was right07:33
ttxthink KVM + a shiny and powerful adminGUI07:33
Lantiziaalready got that... Proxmox07:34
ttxtwb said "clouds run a virtual host on multiple hosts *CONCURRENTLY*."07:34
LantiziaI'd swap "on" for "over"07:34
ttxno, it still runs a VM in a single place07:34
Lantiziabut otherwise he is right07:34
twbWith cloud computing you give your service provider a diskless VM image which runs, say, a bunch of shitty Java or PHP in apache, talking to their database service.07:35
persiaOr really good code: doesn't matter07:35
twbAnd the service provider decides on what host(s) the VM will be started/stopped, and how much memory and such it'll have07:35
twbpersia: IME enterprise-level software is automatically bad code :-P07:36
Lantiziabored now, bye07:36
* persia goes back to trying to figure out how to enable emulation on a PPC 7447A07:36
ttxtwb: then your service provider is adding value on top of cloud... nothing will make your "shitty Java" automatically scalable07:37
ttxanyway, I see there is still a lot of confusion, and more advocacy is needed07:37
ttxI only recently understood it's not hype, and it's not new07:38
persiaTargeted advocacy as well: there's lots of different folks saying different things are "cloud computing".07:38
persiaA managed service offering is a critical component, but at least from what I see, it's insufficient to achieve the overall goals often used as examples of why the old model is outdated.07:39
twbI confess I haven't tried to get it working.07:39
ttxpersia: I can only recommend Simon Wardley's talk (Situation normal, everything must change), it's clarifying where all the others are confusing07:39
twbI don't approve of any app that requires a graphical web browser as its base platform.07:40
persiatwb: Who said you need that?07:40
ttxtwb: I run a private cloud every day. It's been a few months since I used a web browser to do any interaction with it07:40
ttxso I wouldn't call it "base platform"07:41
twbWell, it'd be a bit silly to run something like Emacs on a cloud VM07:41
ttxah, you mean most cloud apps would end up being served by HTTP ?07:42
persiatwb: Wrong model.  Consider M-x-plagarism which makes a call to some service that distributes a text match against the entire contents of the internet on N servers, and returns scheme that auto-marks significant blocks of text that might be plagarism.07:43
twbttx: in my head I lump SOAP and REST as "tacked onto the browser model as an afterthought"07:44
twbpersia: I guess...07:44
persiacloud doesn't need to be REST: REST just makes it easier to write the services.07:44
twbI suppose you could also use it for stuff like NNTP servers or game servers.07:46
ttxyou can, and you will, use it for anything. It's just a question of time :)07:47
persiattx: You don't happen to know whether if I call `qemu ...` it will auto-invoke kvm where appropriate, do you?07:47
ttxpersia: no, I admit never have run "qemu", only kvm07:48
persiaheh, OK.07:48
ttxpersia: Daviey might know the answer08:30
ttxotherwise #ubuntu-virt08:31
persiaDaviey already gave me the virtsh answer, but it didn't work perfectly for me, but part of that seems to be issues with qemu running how I want, which in turn appears to be related to a build-failure.08:33
persiaAnd from what I read upstream, I might run into other issues due to potentially not having a working kernel target and very much expect to have an issue due to not having any firmware to feed qemu)08:34
persiaSo it's more of a long-term thing :)08:34
Davieypersia: Is this for a funky arch?09:07
ttxfunky funky09:08
Davieypersia: fwiw, i've tried to use qemu to emulate arm.. and USING it is slow.. compiling on it is impossible :)09:08
persiaDaviey: Of course :)09:08
persiaWorks for me.09:08
persia`mk-sbuild --arch=armel lucid; sbuild -d lucid-armel foo.dsc`09:09
persiaSpeed seems similar to native.09:09
Davieypersia: odd, i last tried it in the karmic cycle..  I wasn't using sbuild, and it made me pull my hair out.  I was tempted to use an n810 as a build box :)09:12
persiaThere were massive improvements in lucid: thank lool.09:12
persiaIt got good enough that I added support in mk-sbuild and pbuilder-dist09:12
* ttx hugs sbuild09:13
Davieypersia: that is great news.09:14
persiaThe thing that was bugging me today is that when I run virt-manager, it offers to connect to my powerpc server as a Virtualisation Host, but qemu-kvm FTBFS on powerpc.  I haven't been able to sort out whether a PPC 7447A (my chip) can use it.09:14
persiaNext game will be to find a way to have qemu/kvm be able to auto-launch against schroots.09:14
Davieypersia: cowbuilder might be appropriate?09:16
persiawhy?09:16
Davieyi'm assuming you are using schroots for the enviroment?09:16
persiaYep.09:17
persiasbuild is designed to build against schroots with configurable overlay mechanisms.09:17
persiaUsed to mostly be LVM with snapshots, but smoser and I added support for other sorts of overlays in lucid, so it can do directory chroots with aufs (which is *fast*) or tarball-based schroots kinda like pbuilder.09:18
Davieypersia: that is interesting.. My local build server uses cowbuilder and some support for qemubuilder, i might switch it.09:20
persiaSoyuz uses sbuild :)09:21
persia(mind you, it's a different fork of the original sbuild than the fork that later became the packaged sbuild)09:21
Daviey:(09:22
persiaNah, it has different requirements.  I think I know what they are now, but I didn't discover them early enough for lucid, which means we can't merge until LTS+109:23
DavieyWell my project for next week is rebuilding the build server :)09:23
persiaHow do you dispatch/collect builds?09:24
Davieypersia: It's not elegant; dput over scp -> fsniper for detecting uploaded source files (other ionotify solutions could do this) -> I can't remember if the publishing is done by apt-ftparchive or mini-dinstall.09:31
DavieyIt's not elegant, but i hate compiling locally and often the packages i test are for other boxes (not my dev box), so having a bunch of local debs is a PITA when i really want a repo.09:32
persiaMakes sense.  I'm fiddling a bit with some tools to easily separate work and build as a developer: once I get a bit closer, I might ask you to help test.09:33
Davieypersia: happy to!09:33
persiaBecause I'm *not* planning on doing serious compilation on a 700MHz netbook, even if I find it nice to have enough battery to last all day.09:34
eagles0513875hey guys im just wondering is xen precompiled with the kernel or does the kernel require recompilation09:36
Davieypersia: Oh, and powernap is an obvious benefit :)09:36
persiaeagles0513875: It needs a special kernel, but that kernel isn't compiled by default (at least for amd64)09:39
eagles0513875ok but its included in the main stream kernel just not compiled right09:39
* persia doesn't know09:40
eagles0513875ok im hearing 2 different things09:40
eagles0513875persia: ignore my question09:41
persiaThere used to be a xen flavour of the kernel offered by default.  It went away.  I suspect it's still required.  kvm is the recommendation.09:42
persiaDaviey: which powermap?09:42
Davieypersia: powernap, kirklands auto hibernate magic.09:45
persiaOh well.  I'm confused.  I won't fix qemu-kvm/powerpc for lucid ( http://launchpadlibrarian.net/45034888/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-powerpc.qemu-kvm_0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu8_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz )09:45
persiaDaviey: Oh.  Doesn't affect me: my netbook lasts all day without hibernate (Sharp PC-Z1).09:46
Davieypersia: sorry, i mean for a dedicated build server.09:46
persia(plus it has no hibernate suppoort in the kernel)09:46
persiaHmm.  My servers run at ~60W, but I might look into that, since one of them could be asleep most of the time.09:48
Davieypersia: Is that buildd healthy for ubuntu-lucid-powerpc.qemu-kvm_0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu8, somewhat suprised to see a bunch of packages that "cannot be authenticated"09:49
persia(well, except for the 15W one, but that has enough other issues that fiddling with power management is likely to cause pain)09:49
Davieyheh09:49
persiaI think it's only sorta healthy.  There was some issue that caused the powerpc buildds to die hard in February, and lamont hacked something up: I think they are looking forward to clean lucid installs.09:50
Davieyahh09:51
persiaBut I trust ftpmaster.internal enough to expect it's unlikely to fall victim to a MiM attack.09:51
Davieyoh aye, i just wondered if it was an indicator that something else wasn't clean in the enviroment09:51
persiasoren: So, do you actually know what causes the issue, if it's not the prototype?09:51
sorenpersia: Yes. Hang on.09:52
persiaDaviey: I can replicate the issue in my chroots, so while it might not be clean, it's not better than what I have.09:52
persiaErr, not worse.09:52
Davieysure09:52
sorenpersia: So, the problem is that qemu-kvm and our kernels are out of sync for powerpc/kvm.09:53
persiaHrm?09:54
sorenhttp://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/avi/kvm.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec3c11aa5f9d0a7f48f46d6790c33ccc654fd6ec09:54
sorenWe don't have that patch, for instance.09:54
persiaThen why does it only fail for powerpc?09:54
sorenThe kvm code for powerpc attempts to access a member of a struct which doesn't exist in the version of the struct we have in our kernels.09:54
persiaAh!  The patch is only for powerpc09:54
sorenYes.09:55
persiaThanks!09:55
Davieypersia: looks like there might be a fix in upstream kernel09:55
* persia hunts for a bug, prepared to file a new one09:55
Davieylooking at the git logs09:55
sorenpersia: The fix (for Lucid) is to disable kvm for powerpc.09:55
sorenpersia: (in qemu-kvm's build)09:55
persiaWhy?09:56
persiaI'd rather leave it FTBFS, and do a rebuild in a couple weeks once the kernel SRUs.09:56
sorenpersia: What's the kernel going to be updated to?09:57
persiaOh, probably -updates.  RIght.09:58
persiaErr, -proposed09:58
sorenNo no, I mean which version?09:59
persiaJust cherrypicks, I think.09:59
persiaI've been told that a config change will happen to enable LVM booting on powerpc, for example.10:00
sorenpersia: Ok. Because that pvr member did not land in that struct in 2.6.32.10:00
persiasoren: Should that patch apply against 2.6.32?10:01
sorenpersia: ...so someone needs to figure out what to cherry pick to make this work.10:01
persiaAh, so it's more than just that bit.10:01
sorenpersia: I don't know if that patch alone will fix it.10:01
sorenpersia: In fact, I'm reasonably sure it won't.10:01
sorenpersia: http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org/msg00856.html10:02
sorenpersia: It's a pretty hefty patch set.10:02
sorenpersia: Take it from someone who's had to do this way too many times: Don't bother.10:03
* persia stops the bug filing process, and looks forward to being able to actually use the "Virtualisation Host" on the powerpc server for maverick10:03
persiasoren: Yeah.  I'd have to actually care more than "Huh: be nice to do virtual test installs on that server once in a while".10:04
sorenpersia: So, again: The fix for Lucid is probably just just disable kvm for powerpc.10:05
persiaI think you're right.  I can't upload that.  Feel like pushing a fix?10:05
sorenYou can't? Why?10:05
* persia isn't core-dev10:05
sorenThat's just silly.10:05
sorenIt's probably the same problem for ia64, by the way.10:06
* soren looks at build logs..10:06
sorenUh... No.10:07
soren:)10:07
* persia has yet to find a small, quiet, low-power ia64 or sparc server, so has limited interest in those arches.10:07
sorenpersia: I'm crazy busy these days.. If you whip up a patch, I'd be more than happy to sponsor it.10:07
sorenWho here is going to UDS, by the way?10:08
* soren raises his hand10:08
sorenDaviey: Are you coming this time?10:09
Davieysoren: Oh aye o/10:09
soren\o/10:09
Daviey\o/10:10
persiasoren: `sed -i 's/any/i386 amd64 sparc armel/' debian/control; dch -i "Don't build on architectues where there is no kernel support"`10:11
sorenpersia: Oh, no no.10:11
sorenpersia: Just pass --disable-kvm to configure if attempting to build on powerpc.10:11
persiaThat gives us qemu on powerpc?10:12
sorenpersia: That's the idea.10:12
persiaOh nifty.  I'll actually spend time on a patch that does that.10:12
sorenWell, hypothesis is more accurate, I guess.10:12
bluethundrWhy do I not see a  05-domain_id in /etc/amavis/conf.d on my Ubuntu mail server and why do I care/not care? http://pastebin.com/mjnL8uef10:12
sorenpersia: Confirmed: http://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg23996.html10:13
sorenpersia: (If anyone knows, it's agraf)10:13
persiaheh.10:13
persiaWhat's the ia64 fix?10:14
sorenpersia: I'm not sure... Let me check.10:19
sorenpersia: To not try at all, I think.10:24
sorenpersia: Yup. ia64 host support didn't exist at all up until about a month ago.10:27
persiasoren: Thanks.  I'll adjust debian/control for that.10:40
sorenpersia: Or we could just leave it as ftbfs. It's meant to work eventually.10:41
persiaLong as I'm cleaning up: it can be re-enabled for maverick, and it looks nicer.10:41
sorenpersia: Certainly no reason to go and fix PaS at least. And if we don't do that, it's going to turn up as a ftbfs anyway.10:41
persiasoren: I was given an example earlier that implied Soyuz was smart enough to not need P-a-s for lots of stuff anymore, and am a bit interested in trying it out :)10:43
sorenpersia: I was under the impression that it was intentional.10:43
persiasoren: What, ignoring .dsc input?  I think it was originally.10:46
sorenpersia: I see. We finally realised it was a wart?10:50
persiaI think so.10:50
sorenGreat. I've always thought it was. :)10:51
pthsI'm setting up DRBD and the notify scripts there use the mail command. Any suggestions for a pacakge that provide that command and would require the least possible configuration?11:08
joebike>i'm trying to set up source control, will i run into any problems if I use apache on my local and then nginx for my production environment? both on ubuntu11:50
twbYou don't need an httpd to run a VCS11:52
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uvirtbotNew bug: #568908 in samba (main) "slow connect to samba shares" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56890811:56
ewookI so do not like appliance-boxes.12:35
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uvirtbotNew bug: #568946 in clamav (main) "clamav-base.postinst doesn't check user of clamd when it sets LocalSocketGroup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56894613:11
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NCommandercoffeedude: ping?13:28
persiasoren: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/56890413:59
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 568904 in qemu-kvm "qemu-kvm FTBFS on powerpc and ia64" [Low,Triaged]13:59
persiaTested and built successfully on powerpc.  Feel free to clean up the changelog if you have better explanations.14:00
* persia dislikes 2 minutes of coding taking 4 hours to check14:00
ttxkirkland: about bug 532733, do you agree we should move it to potential SRU target rather than potential pre-release candidate ?14:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 532733 in qemu-kvm "apt/dpkg in qemu-system-arm hangs if a big task is installed" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53273314:31
* kirkland looks14:31
ttxzul: same question about bug 54143914:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 541439 in php5 "php5 should provide php5-mhash transitional package to remove mhash.ini conffile" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54143914:31
kirklandttx: yes, absolutely14:31
ttxzul: did you ping the release team for bug 533029 ?14:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 533029 in autofs5 "[FFE] autofs5-ldap doesn't work immediately after bootup" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53302914:32
ttxme asks questions again14:32
ttxzul: about bug 541439, do you agree we should move it to potential SRU target rather than potential pre-release candidate ?14:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 541439 in php5 "php5 should provide php5-mhash transitional package to remove mhash.ini conffile" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54143914:33
zulttx: yep14:33
zulttx: what about it?14:33
ttxzul: did you ping the release team for bug 533029 ?14:33
zulttx: yes14:33
zulttx: yep no response from slangasek14:33
ttxok14:33
persiakirkland: You're doing qemu-kvm stuff now, right?  What do you think about bug #568904?14:33
ttxi'll keep it on the "potential" list then14:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 568904 in qemu-kvm "qemu-kvm FTBFS on powerpc and ia64" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56890414:33
zulif he did i missed it though14:33
ttxsmoser/kirkland: i'm keeping bug 565018 and bug 566792 on the release radar, even if I doubt we'll find anything by release day14:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 565018 in cloud-init "instance is not reachable via ssh" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56501814:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 566792 in eucalyptus "UEC guests sometimes fail on consuming user data (metadata service isn't ready)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56679214:34
zulttx: im trying to tack down a php cgi crasher as well14:34
ttxsmoser: could any of those be explained by a DHCP conflict ?14:35
ttxmathiaz: I keep bug 563829 as a potential pre-release fix, since you're on it... I suspect bug 423252 is quite unlikely and shouldbe moved to the "potential SRU" category ?14:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 563829 in openldap "olcAccess are options broken on upgrade in {-1}frontend.ldif" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56382914:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 423252 in sudo "NSS using LDAP on Karmic breaks 'su' and 'sudo'" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42325214:36
mathiazttx: bug 563829 - yes I have something ready to rool14:37
smoserttx, for "not reachable via ssh" i can't come up with an explanation that would be caused by dual dhcp. additionally, other people see it and don't have the dhcp symtoms. kirkland saw it several times last night. i had him enable debug and kick off  arun14:37
mathiazttx: roll14:37
ttxkirkland, mathiaz, hggdh, please update status for your remaining work items on http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-server-ubuntu-10.04.html14:37
mathiazttx: I was planning to get slangasek review14:37
smoserfor the other, that originally came from the data center, where we have no reason to suspect dual dhcp14:37
ttxmathiaz: sounds good.14:37
ttxsmoser: ok14:37
smoserand also, there we saw "200 OK" response from the server, with empty data14:37
ttxwhich cannot be right.14:37
SpaceBasshey folks14:38
smoserwhich i guess could be routing... if there was another server answering14:38
smosersome server that thought it was that funky address14:38
SpaceBassany software raid gurus? My system crashed in the middle of running fsck on my raid - now I cannot mount it, although it seems to be running cleanly14:38
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ttxmathiaz: what about bug 423252 ?14:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 423252 in sudo "NSS using LDAP on Karmic breaks 'su' and 'sudo'" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42325214:42
mathiazttx: sru14:43
ttxack14:44
e-DIO-t yO!14:45
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SpaceBassfalse alarm... found it... system is still running fsck on the drive...must have resumed after the reboot?14:49
ttxmathiaz, kirkland, smoser, zul: please have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus and confirm it reflects our current status -- meeting in 1 hour14:54
kirklandttx: doing now14:54
zulttx: looks good14:55
smoserttx, yeah, looks good here.14:55
smoseri hope that hggdh can run a topo2 test today14:55
smoserkirkland, you have results form your last night debug run ?14:55
ttxthe idea is "what we might try to sneak into release", given that everything that can be safely SRUed will be, to leave some room in the build q14:55
kirklandttx: the two UEC bugs under "might try to fix by release" ... those are almost certainly SRUs14:56
ttxthe two cloud image issues ?14:56
zulttx: can you poke slangasek about autofs5 in the meeting today14:57
ScottKttx: There's a clamav upload that might yet get in.  It's got an unfortunately large and complex diff due to problems in our current package's debconf handling.  What's in queue now is what Debian went with.14:57
zulttx: my large pointy stick doesnt seem to be pointy enough14:57
ttxScottK: you have a bug number ?14:57
ScottKttx: No bugs written, just some stuff ends up configured in ways that would suprise users if they noticed.14:58
ScottKAFAIK no one noticed yet.14:58
ttxScottK: ok, added14:58
ttxScottK: I also have a "universe" section for last minte opportunity fixes on that page14:59
ttxScottK: following up on your ML post14:59
ScottKGreat14:59
ScottKOnce the language packs are done and it's clear there aren't major Main uploads coming I'll push more of that14:59
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oru_workcan someone please remind me where DNS servers are defined ?15:04
klaasresolv.conf15:04
klaasin /etc15:04
hggdhsmoser: I will run a topo2, yes. As soon as I find out wht cempedak rebooted in the middle of the night15:05
oru_worki see15:11
nxvlzul: i'm uploading fix for Bug #566803 to debian15:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 566803 in augeas "/usr/share/augeas/lenses/dist/iptables.aug should use a different path" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56680315:31
nxvlmathiaz: ^^15:31
zulnxvl: mind if i just cherry pick it?15:31
nxvlif you want to15:31
zuli really dont want to do a FFE for the version in debian15:32
nxvlok, will paste the patch in a bit15:32
nxvllet me finish uploading15:32
zulthanks15:33
nxvlpaste.ubuntu.com/421067/15:34
nxvlhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/421067/15:34
crazygirssh known_hosts question.. how do you identify which host is which?15:39
crazygirI'm cursing these damn uuid conventions15:39
crazygirI have to remove one host from my known_hosts file, as the system has changed.. but knowing which host is which isn't so straight forward with uids15:39
raphinkcrazygir: you can use real names if you prefer15:42
raphinkuse HashKnownHosts no15:42
raphinkif your ssh config15:43
raphinks/if/in/15:43
ScottKcrazygir: When you fail to connect to the host, the error gives you the line number of the offending entry.15:44
raphinkalso15:44
crazygirthanks!15:50
zulnxvl: fix uploaded15:57
nxvl:D15:59
kamusinI was installing RC of Lucid and I get https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/569035, have you seen something similar?16:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 569035 in debian-installer "[Lucid-RC] exiting on error base-installer/kernel/failed-install" [Undecided,New]16:02
ttx<ttx> kirkland, mathiaz, hggdh, please update status for your remaining work items on http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-server-ubuntu-10.04.html -- or I'll assume it's the current state16:10
kirklandttx: i just need to have a short conversation with hggdh to sign off on the rc tests16:15
ttxkirkland: ack16:15
kirklandttx: actually, i can sign off on the RC-candidate tests16:16
hggdhttx: I cannot perform the upgrade tests, cannot run KVM yet on my box16:16
kirklandhggdh: do you have mumble working yet?16:16
hggdhkirkland: yes, plugging in16:16
kirklandhggdh: jump in my channel for a couple of minutes, and let's hammer out the sign-off bits16:17
hggdhkirkland: ack16:17
hggdhkirkland: of course, if I do not sounds like a chipmonk16:18
\shhmmm...I wonder why couchdb needs libasound somehow and several X libs16:30
\sh+ libavahi on a server16:30
\shoha...erlang and it's X crap16:31
\shoh damn...it's xulrunner dep and I have a server with a desktop installation ;)16:35
npopegreetings all.16:39
npopeI am trying to move /var (which is currently on /) to its own disk, lvm.  Whenever i drop to single user mode and copy /var/* over to /new_var/ update fstab and reboot. it fails saying can not mount /var/lock and /var/run (however both directories both exsist on /new_var).  Any suggestions?16:40
smoserhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/56435516:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 564355 in eucalyptus "Second euca-run-instance request in same security group causes eucalyptus to remove network assoicated with security group" [High,New]16:52
Eric^-Hey gues16:57
Eric^-guys*16:57
Eric^-Does dell have a diffrent cord to external screens?16:57
hggdhsmoser: topo2 logs from 04/23 are at tamarind:/home/cerdea/rig-topo2-logs.tar17:05
jdstrandmathiaz: hi!17:24
jdstrandmathiaz: why does the mysql error log have these permissions:17:25
jdstrand/var/log/mysql/error.log -rw-rw---- mysql adm17:25
jdstrandttx: also, do you know why the tomcat webapps directory has these permissions:17:26
jdstrand/var/lib/tomcat6/webapps drwxrwxr-x tomcat6 adm17:26
jdstrand'adm' seems on odd choice for the group in both...17:27
jdstrandzul: this looks odd:17:28
jdstrand/var/lib/php5 drwx-wx-wt root root17:28
mathiazjdstrand: hm - it may be related to the umask17:28
mathiazjdstrand: are you running a specific script?17:28
jdstrandmathiaz: I'm confused17:29
jdstrandmathiaz: what do you mean? I used find and discovered these17:29
zuljdstrand: not sure why?17:29
mathiazjdstrand: sorry - you've just started to list a lot of permission problems17:29
mathiazjdstrand: I thought you were a specific security scripts that look for these issues17:30
mathiazjdstrand: that's all I meant17:30
jdstrandzul: world writable for /var/lib/php5?17:30
zuljdstrand: hmmm...17:30
jdstrandmathiaz: I am using the QRT get_file_info.sh script17:30
mathiazjdstrand: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/lucid/mysql-dfsg-5.1/lucid/annotate/head%3A/debian/mysql-server-5.1.mysql.upstart17:30
mathiazjdstrand: ^^ there is a umask settings there17:30
mathiazjdstrand: I'm not sure what's the impact of it17:31
jdstrandmathiaz: I'm more concerned about the group 'adm' having write permission17:31
mathiazjdstrand: so for the mysql error log the unusual part is that adm has write permision?17:31
jdstrandmathiaz: that is highly unusual for a log17:31
mathiazjdstrand: right17:31
zuljdstrand: well i know the /var/lib/php5 is used for garbage collection at least17:32
jcastromathiaz: so puppet is sending michael dehann, who worked as cobbler upstream for a while.17:32
jdstrandmathiaz: do you consider this a bug (I do)? if so, I can file it17:32
mathiazjdstrand: if the umask is set to 007 could that produc such a permission?17:32
jcastromathiaz: so if you care about that you can get 2 birds with 1 stone17:32
mathiazjcastro: great - thanks17:32
mathiazjdstrand: please file a bug17:32
mathiazjdstrand: and outline why it's an issue17:33
ScuniziHow do I list the contents of a directory on a samba share using cli?  ie.. "ls smb://<ip>/<share>" ??17:33
jdstrandmathiaz: possibly-- it could maybe be fixed with 027, but I don't know what impact that would have on other files created17:34
jdstrandmathiaz: I'll mention that in the bug17:34
mathiazjdstrand: great - thanks17:34
mathiazjdstrand: I don't think this is releace critical though17:34
jdstrandmathiaz: no, it isn't17:34
PiciScunizi: You'll either need to mount it or use smbclient.17:34
jdstrandmathiaz: possibly, SRU, but that is your decision17:34
PiciScunizi: smbclient probably has a batch-like mode where you can just issue an ls.17:35
ScuniziPici: ok.. I'll man smbclient for info .. I've been messing with an Fstab line to auto mount the share but have been unsuccessful at this point.. manually mounting it is no problem17:36
jdstrandmathiaz: filed as bug #569085. I'll let you decide how to triage it17:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 569085 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "improper group write permission for error.log" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56908517:42
jdstrandmdeslaur: do you know why php5 has this:17:44
jdstrand/var/lib/php5 drwx-wx-wt root root17:44
jdstrandmdeslaur: that looks very wrong to me...17:44
jdstrandmdeslaur: zul speculated garbage collection17:44
mdeslaurjdstrand: well, it's where php stores stuff like session information17:45
mdeslaurjdstrand: what exactly do you think is wrong with the permissions?17:46
jdstrandmdeslaur: I don't know what it is used for-- if it is only session info, then fine. if it is part of include_path, far less fine ;)17:47
jdstrandmdeslaur: I guess I was thinking sessions should be /var/cache/php5 or something... /var/lib seemed like it suggests something else (but may not)17:49
jdstrandhardy is the same btw...17:49
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uvirtbotNew bug: #569085 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "improper group write permission for error.log" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56908517:51
jdstrandmdeslaur: well, I've added it to my list of further investigations17:53
mdeslaurjdstrand: it's the default session.save_path17:55
jdstrandmdeslaur: ok cool. thanks :)17:56
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uvirtbotNew bug: #569118 in tomcat6 (main) "improper group write permission for /var/lib/tomcat6/webapps" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56911818:41
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ivokskirkland: have a minute?19:20
kirklandivoks: shoot19:21
ivokskirkland: i'm investigating why qemu image won't boot with drive option boot=on (default and only option in libvirt)19:21
ivokskirkland: and i noticed different instructions from seabios with boot=on, boot=off19:21
ivokswith boot=off, seabios resets ata drive19:21
ivokswhile with boot=on it doesn't19:22
kirklandivoks: interesting; i've not seen this19:22
ivokskirkland: have you tried booting without kvm? :)19:22
ruben23hi any knows how to used phpsysinfo19:23
ivokskirkland: http://pastebin.com/KbUhXJqW19:23
ivoksi've modified seabios's source to print debug info (level 8)19:24
kirklandivoks: you mean just through qemu?19:24
ivokskirkland: yes19:24
kirklandivoks: i have not tried that19:24
kirklandivoks: perhaps ask aliguori in #ubuntu-virt ?19:24
ivokssimple command: /usr/bin/qemu -M pc-0.12 -no-kvm -m 512 -smp 1 -name blabla3 -no-acpi -boot c -drive file=/home/ivoks/VM/blabla3/tmpojECnn.qcow2,if=ide,index=0,boot=off -serial file:/tmp/bla2.log -parallel none -usb -vga cirrus19:24
ivoksthis works, but with boot=on it doesn't19:25
Dr_AlienHi guys19:25
Dr_Alieni want to deploy a web server with an ftp function. ive been trying to install ebox but appamour fails and blocks the installation, any alternatives or ideas on what i should do? many thanks19:26
nealmcb_Dr_Alien: what is the apparmor error message?19:31
Dr_Alienjust FAILED according to my putty system.19:32
mathiazhggdh: I've just created an LP project for uec-testing-scripts19:32
mathiazhggdh: I've also created a team uec-testing-scripts-dev to host the bzr branch19:32
mathiazhggdh: I've added you as a member of the team19:32
mathiazhggdh: which means you should have write access to the branch19:33
mathiazhggdh: lp:uec-testing-scripts/19:33
hggdhmathiaz: thank you. And, BTW, the scripts are marvelous!19:35
mathiazhggdh: thanks19:35
mathiazhggdh: is the debugging info enough?19:35
hggdhyes, just received an email about the project19:35
zulmathiaz: ping for the testcase for 292971 be applied to the older versions as well?19:35
mathiazzul: bug 292971 ?19:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 292971 in libnss-ldap "nscd leaking memory using libnss-ldap" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29297119:36
hggdhmathiaz: I think so. The only thing to look at is make sure the logs have the correct {debug,info,warning, etc} settings19:36
mathiazzul: you may not be able to use the openldap-dit project for an older version of ubuntu19:38
mathiazzul: especially for hardy19:38
zulmathiaz: i was afraid of that ;)19:39
mathiazzul: you may be able to go back in the bzr branch history19:39
mathiazzul: there should be a version in the history of the openldap-dit project that was targeted at hardy19:39
mathiazzul: so you could use that version for testing19:39
zulmathiaz: ok thanks ill go pick away at it19:40
mathiazzul: great - thanks19:40
Dr_AlienNeal ill run diagnostics in a sec and see if i can do it again19:41
Dr_Alienim not sure how to install ebox really..19:42
Dr_Alieni cant FTP files up19:42
Dr_Alienso i have to use ssh to get the files.19:42
MattCampbellI configured a virtual machine using libvirt, using the NAT networking option, and now I went to set up some port forwarding, e.g. so connections to port 25 on one of the host's IP addresses are forwarded to port 25 in the VM.  But I want the VM to see the real source IP.20:02
MattCampbellMy guess is that I should use iptables to do this.20:02
Dr_Aliendoes anyone have issues configuring ebox?20:08
guntbertDr_Alien: no offense - but don't you think that in the time you've put into ebox you would have been able to configure your server completely to your needs?20:17
Dr_AlienGuntbert, im having issues with adding new uses to an FTP server.20:17
Dr_Alienif you could tell me how to do this and seccure my ftp box that would be prue gold.20:17
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guntbertDr_Alien: that is nothing I have done - but for a start: what ftp server are you using?20:19
Dr_Alienvtftp i think20:19
guntbertDr_Alien: sorry "I think" is not good enough - the configuration files and methods are different between servers20:20
Dr_AlienOk let me see.20:21
Dr_Alienits http://doc.etherpad.org/F7Txtk7IeB20:21
Dr_Alienops20:21
Dr_Aliensorry20:21
Dr_Alien vsftpd20:21
guntbertDr_Alien: please use my nick when you are talking to me to highlight me - I'm participating in several channels - let me look into the docu - I'll be back20:23
Dr_AlienSure. thanks20:24
hggdhsmoser: do you need topo3 on the rig for tests?20:27
ruben23hi nayone can help how to used phpsysinfo..?20:28
smoserdid you already run them ?20:29
smoserhggdh, ?20:29
hggdhI ran the stress on topo3, 93% success. I will reconfigure to topo4 is you do not need the rig now20:32
hggdhsmoser: ^20:33
smosersure.20:33
smoseryou can have it20:33
smosercan i see the topo3 results some where ?20:33
smoserand 93% of what20:33
hggdhk, topo4 on the way now ;-)20:33
jeeves_Mosshow can I make a startup script that runs ONCE @ startup (ie. server startup) under a specific user?  (ie., I need to get 2 game servers to start @ startup, but have them run as a non priv user)20:34
hggdhsmoser: 93% success on creating, using, and destryoying instances20:34
smoserT * .93 = S20:35
smoserwhat is the value of T20:35
smoserhggdh,20:35
guntbertDr_Alien: please have a look at http://howto.gumph.org/content/setup-virtual-users-and-directories-in-vsftpd/  -- its written for debian but I see no reason why it wouldn't apply to ubuntu - ask if questions remain :-))20:35
hggdhsmoser: 40020:36
FFF666I've started an image in UEC, it's my first run.  Then I use the "watch -n5 euca-describe-instances" command to see the current state of the image. After a while the image doesn't start20:36
hggdhsmoser: 400 total instances, 384 OK, 16 KO20:36
smoseryeah. can you post console logs of 16 failures ?20:37
FFF666smoser: are you talking to me?20:37
hggdhsmoser: I will upload everything (uec_test.py results, euca logs) to tamarind20:38
smoserFFF666, no, i wasnt.20:38
smoserbut what is "a while"20:38
FFF6663 minutes20:39
FFF666but the state now says terminated20:39
smosermy first guess is that image is to big to fitin your --instance-type20:39
FFF666i put small20:39
smoserwhats your image ?20:40
FFF666ahhhhh20:40
FFF666ubuntu 9.1020:40
smoseryeah, that wont fit in 2G20:40
smoserthe lucid ones do20:40
smoserso you can either20:40
smosera.) run lucid20:40
smoser (image)20:40
smoserb.) modify instance type of small to 3G20:40
smoserc.) use --instance-type c1.medium20:40
FFF666ok, I'll try20:41
hggdhsmoser: tamarind:/home/cerda/rc-topo3.tar20:41
hggdhsmoser: sorry, /home/cerdea20:42
funkycat90210I'm having a problem whereby 8.04LTS packages are too old for newer apps I want to install. So I want to move from 8.04LTS to 9.10 or even 10.4 non-LTS, can I upgrade remotely or should I do a fresh install?20:42
npopefunkycat90210: upgrade remotley with dist-upgrade20:43
ScottKfunkycat90210: Upgrading is generally reasonably safe, however to upgrad to 9.10 you need to do it in steps: 8.04 -> 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10.20:44
funkycat90210npope, thx20:44
npopefunkycat90210: you need to follow ScottK's steps though, you cant just go from 8.04 to 9.1020:45
guntbertfunkycat90210: LTS -> LTS goes in one step - every other combination: only step by step20:45
npopecan you go from 8.04 to 10.04 yet?  (10.04 is not released yet?)20:45
ScottKAlso use update manager to do it.20:45
ScottKnpope: It's not recommended unless you know what you are doing.20:46
funkycat90210guntbert, which is fine assuming the steps work, some reports on the web suggest that doing so results in an unbootable system requiring manual intervention so I may have to drive to the datacenter to do this20:46
ScottKsudo do-release-upgrade is the command20:46
npopeScottK: dist-upgrade?20:46
ScottKnpope: Going direct from 8.04 -> 10.04 before it's release is not recommended for general use.20:46
FFF666smoser: I installed the cloud UEC in the vmware  virtual machine, is that ok?20:47
ScottKdo-release-upgreade is better for going from release to release than just dist-upgrade.20:47
funkycat90210ScottK, i dont have access to the gui but would do-release-upgrade do it?20:47
npopeScottK: oh I know thats why I posed the question20:47
ScottKYes20:47
ScottKfunkycat90210: Yes.  That's all cli20:47
funkycat90210ScottK, nice20:47
guntbertfunkycat90210: well - in my experience upgrades only have problems with things like sound or video - which you don't need in this case :-)  but of course my experience is limited20:47
funkycat90210guntbert, thx.. I'll upgrade a machine and see how that works, in theory I can upgrade all 6 or so machines via do-release-upgrade20:49
smoserFFF666, i'm not sure if you can install all components on a single system or not.  i know its on-trivial. lifeless was working on trying that.20:50
funkycat90210so do-release-upgrade 8.10 then 9.04 then 9.1020:50
guntbertfunkycat90210: yes but either you wait for the release of lucid or you do it step by step :-)20:50
smoseradditionally you need vt extensions on the node controllers (ie, they must run 'kvm-ok')20:50
smoseri'm not sure if that is possible in a vmware guest or not20:50
smoserit *could*, but its not going to be fast.20:51
uvirtbotNew bug: #569167 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.6 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56916720:51
funkycat90210guntbert, so when lucid comes out i'll be able to do do-release-upgrade 10.04 directly?20:51
FFF666smoser: I followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall.20:52
FFF666I have two ubuntu servers installed20:52
guntbertfunkycat90210: according to documentation yes - thats one of the points of LTS releases20:52
ScottKYou CAN do it now, it's just not recommended or supported.20:53
funkycat90210guntbert, well in that case I'll go from 8.04LTS to 10.10LTS and I want to move away from LTS20:53
smoserFFF666, you have 2 virutal servers installed as vmware guests ?20:53
funkycat90210err 10.4 LTSi ment to say20:53
guntbertDr_Alien: there will be one or two adaptions to the tutorial20:53
funkycat90210Can I go from 10.4LTS to 10.10non-LTS?20:54
smoserFFF666, what does 'kvm-ok' show on the node controller20:54
FFF666smoser: yes I've two20:54
guntbertfunkycat90210: of course you will be able to do that - but from  then  on you will need to upgrade step by step20:55
FFF666smoser: kvm-ok  is a coomand?20:55
smosery20:55
FFF666it says: your cpu does not support KVM extentions20:56
FFF666KVM acceleratoin can NOT be used20:56
funkycat90210guntbert, got it.20:57
FFF666Do I have to used two real compuers?20:57
smoserFFF666, then without some hacking you wont be able to do this.20:58
smoserFFF666, the requirement is for vt extensions on the cpu.20:58
smosermost likely that means "real computers"20:58
FFF666but Ihave a "new" pc, it's a core 2 duo 8600,20:59
FFF666but Ihave a "new" pc, it's a core 2 duo P8600,20:59
FFF666I'll check the bios20:59
smoserbecause your host supports VT does not mean your guests do21:00
smoserkvm has support for nested vt with amd processors21:00
smoserit would appear that vmware does not support nested vt with intel21:00
smoserit *could*21:00
funkycat90210ohh so I should wait for 10.4 LTS, upgrade to that from 8.04 LTS, then when 10.10 comes out, edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, change prompt from lts to normal then do do-release-upgrade21:00
funkycat90210sounds right or do i need more coffee?21:01
funkycat90210http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-8.04-to-ubuntu-8.10-desktop-and-server has info on upgrading out of LTS21:02
sirninjaI've put ubuntu server 9.10 on an old laptop that I don't use any more. How do I get it to automatically connect to a wireless network on startup?21:06
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sirninjaand I know I don't need restricted drivers because in the desktop version, the wireless card was detected automatically21:07
funkycat90210sirninja, years ago I set up a custom wpa_supplicant command to do this, it seems like distros assume only people logging into a gui will use wireless.21:09
sirninjafunkycat90210: if it's really difficult, it's not that big of a deal to run a cable, will that be easier?21:09
funkycat90210sirninja, much easier21:11
funkycat90210sirninja, just set up dhcp/static ip and it will work on bootup21:11
sirninjafunkycat90210: I found wicd supports wireless networks. Would that work?21:12
FFF666smoser: are you there?21:12
smoseryeah21:12
FFF666smoser: the image state is terminated, it doesn't work21:13
smoserright.21:13
smoserits not going to.21:13
FFF666smoser: why?21:13
smoserbecause you have to have VT support in the node controller21:14
smoserie, 'kvm-ok' needs to say : KVM acceleration can be used21:14
FFF666so, that is a requerimient?21:15
AtomicSparkDoes anyone know what power profile Ubuntu Server defaults to? Ubuntu Desktop defaults to on demand where it scales back the cpu freq when it's not needed.21:15
smoser*or* you'd need to hack it so that it would use kvm without acceleration, whic hwoudl give you terribly slow guest performance (guest performance without vt acceleration is bad on real metal in kvm)21:15
smoserFFF666, yes, it is a requirement.21:15
funkycat90210sirninja, non familiar with wicd21:15
AtomicSparksmoser: which is just qemu.21:15
smoserAtomicSpark, right.21:16
AtomicSparkindeed.21:16
AtomicSparkI just joined, let me guess, someone wants to libvirt without cpu extentions?21:16
smoserthis could in theory work.  with amd processors, you could run 2 guests on the same virtual network using kvm as the hypervisor.21:16
smoserthen, those guests would see vt support also.21:17
smoserit'd be slow. but it would (in theory) work.21:17
smoserAtomicSpark, well, yes, but at a higher level. FFF666 wants to run UEC (which uses libvirt) inside VMware guests.21:18
smoserit isn't an uncommon request.. it makes sense for trying something out.21:18
smoserits just not supported.21:18
AtomicSparkSo basically a VM within a VM?21:18
FFF666yes21:19
smoseryeah21:19
AtomicSparkInteresting.21:19
smosernested vt is supported with kvm and amd21:19
AtomicSparkI did not know that.21:19
smoserhttp://www.linux-kvm.com/content/kvm-nested-virtualization-works21:19
AtomicSparkMakes sense I suppose.21:19
FFF666smoser: so, I have to install UEC in a real PC?21:20
smoserthe simple answer is yes21:21
smoseron 2 real pcs21:21
smoserthat have VT extensions21:21
FFF666I've in my laptop VT extension, it's a core2 duo P860021:22
smoseryeah. anything recent other than netbooks its the norm21:22
smoserand if its amd64 you'd be hard pressed to not find it21:22
AtomicSparkIt's tricky with Intels. They didn't put VT on everything.21:22
FFF666but why the kvm-ok command says that I don't have acceleration?21:23
smoseror, rather, they put VT on everything and disable it control pricing more effectively :)21:23
AtomicSparkFFF666: Did you enable it in BIOS? Did you know you have to power off *and* remove the battery?21:23
smoserFFF666, because the virtual machine that you're running that command in does not have vt21:23
FFF666ok, I'll check the bios21:24
AtomicSparksmoser: Something like that, yes. Business 101: Make a single thing with a set of features then clone it and disable features. Instant tiered pricing!21:24
FFF666Will you both still there?21:25
FFF666Will you both still here?21:25
smoseri'll be here for a bit.21:25
AtomicSparkMaybe. I don't lurk in here often, but I'll wait for you.21:25
smoserFFF666, most likely your laptop does have it21:25
smoseryou ran kvm-ok on your laptop ?21:26
smoser"bare metal" ?21:26
FFF666ok, if you havent noticed I'm learning english21:26
FFF666jaaj21:26
FFF666or haha, as you laugh21:26
FFF666:)21:26
AtomicSparksmoser: i didn't know about kvm-ok. what is that packaged with? the wiki just tells you to grep the cpu info file.21:26
smoserin lucid it is packaged with cpu-checker21:27
AtomicSparkHmm.21:28
smoserpreviously it was in kvm.  which didn't make it easy to use. i *think* (kirkland would know better) it was moved to a different package, that was tiny and easily installed (possibly by default), so that you could run it without installing kvm21:29
AtomicSparkMakes sense.21:29
AtomicSparkI use virt-manager to remotely manage/install virtual machines on my headless proliant server. Works *very* well.21:29
hggdhkirkland: topo3 complete, 400 total runs, 16 failures, available at tamarind:/home/cerdea/rc-topo3.tar21:42
hggdhkirkland: now setting up topo421:42
hggdhBTW -- the package is cpu-checker, and -- IIRC -- it is installed by default21:45
sirninjahow do I set up a static ip?22:16
AtomicSparksirninja: /etc/network/interfaces22:17
AtomicSparksirninja: man interfaces22:17
AtomicSparksirninja: or read the ubuntu server guide22:17
AtomicSparkIt's pretty simple.22:18
AtomicSparkWith that said, I usually use static DHCP for all of my servers so I can have a single place to reassign them. Changing many computers would be a pita without it.22:19
sirninjaAtomicSpark: That's a good idea. I didn't think of doing that22:20
AtomicSparkIt's a very good idea. Unless your DHCP server goes down. :)22:20
AtomicSparkBut most people seem to use hostnames anyways for uris. So if your DHCP/DNS server goes down, you're screwed either way.22:21
sirninjaAtomicSpark: well, I'm just setting up a torrent box, so it may just be easier to set it on the actual torrent box22:22
AtomicSparkAh. I still use static dhcp. Very nice. Same place to set up port forwarding too.22:22
sirninjaAtomicSpark: I'm looking to see if my router has an option for that, but I don't see any22:23
AtomicSparkShame.22:23
AtomicSparkMine is called static leases?22:23
AtomicSparkI use the Tomato firmware on my WRT54GL22:23
sirninjaI found it22:24
AtomicSparkYay!22:24
sirninjaI'm using dd-wrt22:24
AtomicSparkBoo. :P22:24
sirninjait's the only thing my router could run besides the default firmware sadly22:24
AtomicSparkI know. :(22:24
AtomicSparkI forgive you for your gpl violation.22:25
AtomicSparkDinner time.22:25
ruben23 hi guys how do i ssh command form my linux box22:33
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uvirtbotNew bug: #569200 in openssh (main) "openssh on ubuntu 9.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56920022:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #569203 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "failed to start MySQL database server mysqld [fail] " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56920322:36
ecraneHi can someone advise me how to start ubuntu's NFS server in verbose mode? Need to debug why other unix boxes can connect to my NFS shares, but windows can't....22:50
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konqrunner@ecrane: Did you check the 'Troubleshooting' section at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto ?22:57
ecraneyeah but I saw nothing in there for logging for nfsd, just for logging on gssd/kerberos23:00
konqrunner@ecrane: Looks like you have to start logging differently for the different daemons.23:10
konqrunnerI found this site: http://docs.hp.com/en/5992-0715/ch08s05.html where they explain logging for rpc.mountd, rpc.statd and rpc.lockd23:10
konqrunnerYou'll probably have to adjust paths etc. to your distro23:11
konqrunnerI guess with connection problems, rpc.mountd would be the natural choice, right?23:12
ecranekonqrunner: good stuff, ty.23:29
konqrunneryou're welcome. HTH23:30
Jeeves_Mosswhat am I doing wrong with my apache file?  http://pastebin.com/zzEriT4m  I can't get my v-hosts to work23:33
konqrunnerJeeves_Moss: What do you mean by 'can't get my vhosts to work'? What kind of error do you get?23:36
Jeeves_Mosskonqrunner, it won't direct to the proper public_html directory23:37
Jeeves_Mosskonqrunner, so, I don't think that it's directing to the proper directory baised on domin name23:40
konqrunnerJeeves_Moss, Did you enable the config file for the vhost you're trying to access?23:42
konqrunnerJeeves_Moss: Check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled. There needs to be a symlink to the vhost config file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/23:45
konqrunnerThen you'll have to restart httpd, naturally23:45
konqrunnerIf that doesn't help: Do you have any server management software installed. Esp. Plesk is very unnerving if it comes to overriding manual configs...23:46
Jeeves_Mosskonqrunner, nope, virgin install23:49
konqrunnerHow about that symlink?23:50
Jeeves_Moss???23:50
konqrunnerWith apache2, you can configure as many vhosts as you like, without taking up resources23:51
konqrunnerSo, if you want to actually run a vhost, you need to tell apache that you want to enable it23:51
Jeeves_Mosswell, that's a copy of the vhost config file for one of the domains23:52
konqrunneryou do so by placing a symlink in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, which points to the configuration file in /etc/apache2/sites-available.23:52
Jeeves_Mossyes, it's set up like that23:52
konqrunnerBut you do get a page served when you call up the vhost's URL?23:53
Jeeves_MossI get the default "it works!" page23:54
bogeyd6!apache223:54
bogeyd6hmm23:54
bogeyd6!apache23:54
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)23:54
bogeyd6https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html23:55
Jeeves_Mosskonqrunner, any ideas?23:56
konqrunnerHang on, I had a similar error a while back. Trying to figure out, what it was...23:56

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