/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/04/23/#ubuntu-us-mn.txt

* Obsidian1723 nighters00:18
tonyyarussohey Takyoji, proofread http://files.tonyyarusso.com/docformatsres.pdf for me quick01:10
Takyojialrighty01:12
TakyojiOpenOffice's spellcheck complains that "practiced" is misspelled and should be written as "practised"01:15
TakyojiThough I suppose the word is legitimate.01:16
tonyyarussoI think that's a US/UK thing.01:16
TakyojiWouldn't you have to define some terms, such as "stable website"01:16
TakyojiI assume that's the case01:16
sparklehistoryYes, that's a US/UK spelling thing.01:17
tonyyarussoTakyoji: That's just an example, not a definition, so no.01:17
Takyojiahh01:18
TakyojiWhich formats would you consider abide to the suggested guidelines?01:18
tonyyarussoOpenDocument, DocBook, PNG, SVG, plain text (ascii, utf-8), HTML, LaTeX, JPEG 2000, PDF, to name a few.01:19
* tonyyarusso just realized that "the state of Minnesota" could be construed as not including various departments01:21
tonyyarussodocuments and records produced by public institutions, departments, and offices in the state of Minnesota be required - better01:22
sparklehistorytonyyarusso: I think that'd be unlikely but your addendum is fine.  But now you *really* need to break up the first sentence - way too long and wordy.01:23
TakyojiHow would it stand in regards of video codecs for example, considering Google releasing VP8 and so forth.01:23
tonyyarussosparklehistory: So suggest an alternative.01:23
tonyyarussoTakyoji: Theora good.  H.whatever not (patents).  VP8 not sure - not familiar with it yet.01:24
tonyyarussosparklehistory: "The DFL Party urges that all documents and records produced by public institutions, departments, and offices in the state of Minnesota be required to be created, exchanged, maintained, stored, and preserved in open formats to allow and ensure full, free, and continuing access to public data."01:28
tonyyarussosparklehistory: "(4)  implemented by multiple vendors, with at least one implementation being free;"01:28
sparklehistorytonyyarusso: "The DFL Party urges the enactment of a mandate requiring all documents and records produced by public institutions, departments, and offices of the state of Minnesota be created, exchanged, maintained, stored, and preserved in open formats with full, free implementations.  This mandate would allow and ensure full, free, and continuing access to public data.  The requirement would apply to all publicly-produced do01:29
sparklehistorycuments, including text, spreadsheets, and presentations, created after issuance of the relevant executive directive or passage of appropriate legislation."01:29
sparklehistory(5) doesn't make sense to me01:30
tonyyarussoYour "This mandate" sentence borders on a whereas clause, which can't be in the resolution body.01:30
tonyyarusso:P01:31
tonyyarussoalso, too legalese.  blech.01:31
tonyyarusso(5) refers to how OASIS, ISO, IETF, etc. operate.01:31
sparklehistoryokay...how about "implementation of a standard" instead of "enactment of a mandate"?01:31
tonyyarussowhat's wrong with "be required"?01:32
sparklehistorytonyyarusso: I have no idea what OASIS, ISO... are or mean so I'll trust you on that.01:32
tonyyarussostandards bodies01:32
sparklehistory"be required to be" is just clumsy.  Plus, if you define it as a standard or mandate then you can refer to it concisely later which helps with breaking up the sentences and making the resolution more readable.01:34
tonyyarussomeh, now I think you're just going all law school on it.01:34
tonyyarussoNew version uploaded.01:35
sparklehistoryWell, it is sort of a legal document.  And my suggestions make it more readable.  If people get lost or can't make it through the first sentence, they're not likely to finish the document or support it.01:35
tonyyarussoNo it's not.01:35
tonyyarussoand I don't think they do.01:36
sparklehistoryokay, that's fine - you asked me to look at it, I'm just telling you what I think.01:37
sparklehistoryI like version 2 better01:37
sparklehistoryI don't think there's anything you need to change in version 2.01:37
tonyyarussommkay, I'll e-mail that.01:38
sparklehistorySo what happens now with it?  Who/what do you e-mail it to?01:39
tonyyarussoPeople who are willing to walk around asking for signatures.  Kyle and Kevin.01:41
TakyojiRandom reminder: Day Against DRM on May 4th.01:55
kermitTakyoji: woo!02:11
kermitTakyoji: 8 people attending!!02:12
TakyojiIn case if anyone wants to put it in their forum signature anywhere or on their blog02:12
kermiter shorter link http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=11026440567614502:12
kermitlol 11 maybes02:13
Takyojihah02:13
Takyoji9 people attending now. :P02:14
TakyojiOh noes, it seems some minor CSS or general aesthetic details on the EFF homepage is broked. :o02:17
TakyojiEgad, I believe they used repeated anchor tags rather than putting them in an unordered list!02:18
TakyojiSeems to be working now02:22
kermitmy poor roomate wanted to show off his new Ipod Touch..  I'm like "closed technology, don't care, uncool."02:23
tonyyarussohehe02:25
TakyojiHow many have seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzUoWkbNLe802:27
* kermit facebooks that02:30
kermitlmao at "like stallman!"02:31
kermitit even sounded right02:31
Takyojiheh yea02:31
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* tonyyarusso is in Duluth23:38

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