[00:00] <jaydee> hmm
[00:00] <ZykoticK9> Losha, if your source includes black bars - using clip/zoom can remove them so only the video is encoded
[00:00] <jeff_hann> jaydee, type just 'su -'
[00:00] <jeff_hann> jaydee, and enter the password
[00:00] <jaydee> and than make?
[00:00] <hal1> Jordan_U: do you know of any docs that run through that?
[00:01] <jeff_hann> jaydee, did you do that?
[00:01] <Losha> ZykoticK9: is that the only time you might need to clip/zoom, given that VCD and SVCD are pretty much obsolete nowadays?
[00:02] <hehehe> delac so can i change username-desktop to just a letter or letter-desktop
[00:02] <hehehe> ?
[00:02] <majnoon> i have an INTERESTING problem
[00:02] <jaydee> same
[00:02] <jeff_hann> majnoon, we all have
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> Losha, it's "typically" used for encoding to AVI
[00:02] <jaydee> wait
[00:02] <delac> hehehe: whatever you want :)
[00:02] <zaxonspox> hehehe the hostname is in file /etc/hostname
[00:02] <jeff_hann> jaydee, what do you mean 'same'?
[00:02] <hehehe> delac no security issues? :P
[00:02] <jaydee> did i forget something?
[00:02] <majnoon> i need to push ctrl to left click with my mouse
[00:02] <delac> not that i know...
[00:02] <Losha> ZykoticK9: ok, moving to offtopic to include Pici
[00:02] <jaydee> same error messages
[00:02] <hehehe> they could scan my computer name on the network?
[00:02] <hehehe> :P
[00:03] <delac> hehehe: computer name is public anyway
[00:03] <jeff_hann> jaydee, type whoami in the terminal
[00:03] <jeff_hann> what does it say?
[00:03] <hal1> Vigo: if I did consider a netboot, unfortunately my livecd does not contain the install/netboot folder
[00:03] <hehehe> delac oh ok i will use a letter..
[00:03] <abstrakt> is there a default hotkey for maximize/minimize window?
[00:03] <jaydee> i get root
[00:03] <Jordan_U> hal1: There are tutorials for doing similar things but not this exactly. If you post the name of the iso file I can make you a grub.cfg that will work.
[00:04] <jeff_hann> jaydee, good
[00:04] <jeff_hann> now
[00:04] <jaydee> should i install something before?
[00:04] <hehehe> should i use decryption option?
[00:04] <jeff_hann> jaydee, go to the directory where the source is
[00:04] <jaydee> ok
[00:04] <hal1> Jordan_U: thank you - that is nice of you - first, I am going to try to get this netboot to work - I think I have found a way...
[00:04] <jaydee> done
[00:04] <jeff_hann> jaydee, what does pwd tell ?
[00:04] <hiexpo> after noon all
[00:04] <delac> hehehe: decrypt what?
[00:05] <delac> hehehe: disks?
[00:05] <jaydee> in terminal?
[00:05] <jeff_hann> yes
[00:05] <hehehe> delac there is a option ask for password to decrypt home folder
[00:05] <jeff_hann> jaydee, yes
[00:05] <delac> hehehe: you propably dont need that
[00:05] <hehehe> delac to login and decrypt home folder
[00:05] <hehehe> ok
[00:05] <Vigo> hal1: Do you have a PXE ?
[00:06] <hehehe> but there must some kind of advantage when using encryption :P
[00:06] <hehehe> be
[00:06] <hal1> Vigo: the laptop - yes
[00:06] <delac> hehehe: yes, if someone steals your computer and tries to get your data
[00:06] <linx|> hehehe: well, the benefit is it is encrypted ?
[00:06] <jaydee> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/gxRuu6mN
[00:06] <delac> hehehe: but that is unlikely
[00:07] <jeff_hann> jaydee, now type make
[00:07] <delac> hehehe: and encrypting the disks will be a hassel
[00:07] <hal1> what should I be putting in the tftp server dir from here?   http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[00:07] <zaxonspox> hehehe are you paranid one?
[00:07] <hehehe> oh forget it :P
[00:07] <majnoon> i need to push ctrl to left click with my mouse
[00:07] <delac> hehehe: *hassle
[00:07] <MykeNY516> How is ubuntu 10.04 RC? any major problems?
[00:07] <hehehe> kinda
[00:07] <jaydee> i am already doing it
[00:07] <jaydee> its the same message
[00:08] <Pici> MykeNY516 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[00:08] <jeff_hann> jaydee, permission denied?
[00:08] <MykeNY516> ok
[00:08] <zaxonspox> hehehe if so you better sto usung any electronics :P everything can be hacked
[00:08] <quietone> abstrakt: Alt-F10 ?
[00:09] <hehehe> i wont use it but im curious.. if someone wanted to open my files it would ask for a password right?
[00:09] <jaydee> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/4PwycDgH
[00:09] <ZAHER> what about thise distro Ubuntu Pentest http://www.netinfinity.org/  ??
[00:09] <hehehe> im curious about its utility
[00:10] <jeff_hann> jaydee, it's not the same error
[00:10] <majnoon> looks like only a gnome prob
[00:10] <jaydee> ?
[00:10] <jaydee> oh
[00:10] <jeff_hann> jaydee, what card are you installing the drivers for?
[00:10] <jaydee> i see one line is missing
[00:10] <reduz> hi guys question, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers but jockey-gtk freezes downloading all the time, other than that connectivity works fine
[00:10] <jaydee> im so sry
[00:10] <Vigo> hal1: I have installed Debian and Ubuntu with PXE , and TFTP , let me try and locate a page on that....
[00:11] <jeff_hann> jaydee, what card are you installing the drivers for?
[00:11] <delac> hehehe: i am not exactly sure how the disk encryption goes. but the data  will be encrypted and noone can read it unless the computer is on and you have logged in
[00:11] <jaydee> mom
[00:11] <jeff_hann> :))
[00:11] <hal1> that would be great Vigo !  :)
[00:11] <zaxonspox> reduz you sure its freezing? mayby only progress bar freezes? i have seen that
[00:11] <jaydee> for my notebook
[00:11] <jeff_hann> jaydee, what type of wireless card do you have?
[00:11] <jaydee> i forget the name\
[00:11] <reduz> zaxonspox, yes progress bar freezes
[00:11] <reduz> but my connectivity seems to be fine
[00:11] <jaydee> wlan
[00:12] <nsadmin> jaydee you running a linux now?
[00:12] <jaydee> did u mean that?
[00:12] <delac> hehehe: so you cant access the files on the disk from lice-cd for example
[00:12] <jaydee> yes
[00:12] <reduz> also, if i restart jockey-gtk it will never complete the "searching for available drivers" dialog
[00:12] <delac> hehehe: *live-cd
[00:12] <jeff_hann> jaydee, tell me what 'lspci | grep -i Atheros' say?
[00:12] <reduz> will tay there forever
[00:12] <nsadmin> ok, pastebin the output of lspci -nn
[00:12] <Vigo> hal1: Here is the Debian site for that: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#netboot
[00:13] <zaxonspox> reduz i have seen that progress bar stays long not moving, then it runs and install all, mayby try to wait a while?
[00:13] <jaydee> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/zFBtPGQ0
[00:13]  * MrPoopyPants has been banned forever and ever from #ubuntu-offtopic :((
[00:13] <hiexpo> i need to assign a static ip to this laptop
[00:13] <MrPoopyPants> wah
[00:13] <hal1> Vigo: I thin that's the same - what files do I put on the tftp server?
[00:14] <nsadmin> and now, pastebin the output of lspci -nn
[00:14] <Vigo> hal1: Here is the Ubuntu doc on that:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[00:14] <jeff_hann> jaydee, are you using Gnome?
[00:14] <nsadmin> MrPoopyPants: too offtopic for offtopic?
[00:14] <jeff_hann> jaydee, one panel up and one panel down?
[00:15] <MrPoopyPants> nsadmin, evidently :(
[00:15] <jaydee> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/12PaVK4N
[00:15] <Losha> nsadmin: ontopic is offtopic for offtopic...
[00:15] <nsadmin> or you were trying to be ontopic on offtopic
[00:15] <jaydee> ubuntu netbook remix
[00:16] <Pici> MrPoopyPants: Please join #ubuntu-ops to have your ban reviewed if you wish.
[00:16] <hehehe> delac tks for the explanation
[00:16] <MrPoopyPants> I think that they just hate Jews in there.
[00:16] <nsadmin> if inlaws were outlawed....
[00:16] <jaydee> only one panel
[00:16] <nsadmin> only outlaws would have inlaws...
[00:16] <jaydee> on the top
[00:16] <MrPoopyPants> Pici, that's ok. I appreciate it but I don't see the point in going there anyhow.
[00:16] <Pici> MrPoopyPants: Then stay on topic here.
[00:17]  * MrPoopyPants prepares himself for another ban.
[00:17] <jeff_hann> jaydee, type from the terminal /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[00:17] <jeff_hann> it will take care of the drivers for you
[00:17] <nsadmin> dude... just control yourself :P
[00:17] <miked595> anyone here ever use iTerm on Mac OSX?
[00:17] <Losha> MrPoopyPants: Slander. I've never seen the slightest hint of anti-semitism from the ops
[00:18] <MrPoopyPants> Losha, good for you.
[00:18] <MrPoopyPants> Losha, in the written form, its libel
[00:18] <kozo> salz
[00:18] <jaydee> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/9CkuykL1
[00:18] <nsadmin> MrPoopyPants: ahh, I see
[00:18] <nsadmin> have a nice day
[00:18] <kozo> salz alll
[00:19] <jeff_hann> jaydee, are you not in a graphical session?
[00:19] <Losha> MrPoopyPants: I'd tell you to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, but you're banned...
[00:19] <MrPoopyPants> Losha, yeah, thats kind of a bummer.
[00:19] <jaydee> still
[00:20] <jeff_hann> then use jockey-text, as instructed
[00:20] <jaydee> jockey-text?
[00:21] <jeff_hann> that's what it said, right?
[00:21] <jaydee> hmm
[00:21] <jeff_hann> yes, jockey-text
[00:21] <phyrrus> anybody know how to make the virtual screen size on ubuntu 9.10 (fluxbox) smaller?
[00:21] <jaydee> im sry but i dont understand u
[00:21] <jaydee> im from germany
[00:21] <phyrrus> ha
[00:22] <jeff_hann> jaydee, type /usr/bin/jockey-text
[00:22] <phyrrus> im using a tv as monitor.. but want more screen space
[00:22] <jaydee> nothing happend
[00:22] <phyrrus> if anybody knows. pm me. i g2g dinner
[00:23] <jeff_hann> jaydee, press enter. :P
[00:23] <jaydee> hehe
[00:23] <Scunizi> Is it correct to use smbfs in a fstab file instead of cifs when mounting a samba share that on my machine?
[00:24] <jaydee> hey im not stupid ;p
[00:24] <Scunizi> *that's
[00:24] <psusi> Scunizi, smbfs and cifs are the same thing
[00:24] <slackster> Hi, I am working in shell, and tty1 and tty2 don't display anything when I type. I had to use tty3 to log in.
[00:24] <slackster> is this a bug that is know?
[00:24] <jaydee> its frustratung me
[00:25] <Scunizi> psusi: so are they interchangeable in fstab?  or will one work and the other not
[00:25] <Losha> Scunizi: great question. Do both work?
[00:25] <nsadmin> slackster: known bugs are on the bug tracker
[00:25] <jeff_hann> jaydee, sorry, was joking
[00:25] <jaydee> i know
[00:25] <jaydee> me too
[00:25] <slackster> nsadmin: ok. I'll have to check.. it's nothing you have heard of before?
[00:25] <jeff_hann> run 'modprobe ath5k'
[00:25] <jeff_hann> and see if the card works
[00:25] <Scunizi> Losha: don't know yet.. I'm just working out the issues with mounting a share on my samba server running on my machine.. I can mount the share manually but fstab hasn't worked yet
[00:26] <Losha> Scunizi: I know using mount -t cifs works on 8.04, so I'd try that first...
[00:26] <nsadmin> slackster: the only thing I saw was "is this a bug that is know"
[00:26] <jaydee> nothing happend
[00:26] <jaydee> no output
[00:26] <jaydee> on command
[00:26] <jeff_hann> jaydee, that's how it should be
[00:26] <Scunizi> Losha: lol.. that's what I did manually but used smbfs on 9.10 kubuntu
[00:26] <nsadmin> by definition... known bugs are on the bug tracker
[00:26] <jaydee> modprobe ath5k
[00:26] <slackster> nsadmin: heh, ok thanks
[00:27] <jeff_hann> jaydee, try connecting with your wireless now
[00:27] <nsadmin> I don't have to see -anything- else to know that
[00:27] <Losha> Scunizi: I'd be surprised if they didn't keep backward compatibility, but you never know...
[00:27] <slackster> nsadmin: but thanks for looking when I asked. ;)
[00:27] <jaydee> oh i so stupid
[00:27] <jeff_hann> jaydee, what's wrong?
[00:28] <jaydee> i  thought i need it
[00:28] <jaydee> it was working
[00:28] <jeff_hann> jaydee, :)
[00:28] <jaydee> i mean iwreless
[00:28] <jeff_hann> jaydee, so is everything ok?
[00:28] <jaydee> but i thought i need it to do
[00:29] <jaydee> hmm
[00:29] <jaydee> i want to maintence my wireless at home
[00:30] <jaydee> because internet is to low\
[00:30] <jeff_hann> jaydee, I'm not sure I understand
[00:30] <Scunizi> Losha: because samba server is running on my machine.. when I create a folder or file within the samba share nobody else has write access to those items.. they can read but not write.. I'm trying to get it so when I create something it's universally read/write.. that's my major stumbling block.
[00:30] <Guest81452> what is the alternative to Vino ?
[00:30] <overlord> hello
[00:30] <overlord> how can i know the mémory of my pc with ubuntu ?
[00:31] <jaydee> driver is working!!!
[00:31] <jeff_hann> overlord, free -m
[00:31] <overlord> thks jeff_hann
[00:31] <jeff_hann> jaydee, glad to hear that. is there anything else I cand do for you?
[00:31] <Scunizi> Losha: any idea how to assign permissions during the mount process?
[00:31] <Losha> Scunizi: is it a umask issue?
[00:31] <jaydee> hmm
[00:32] <zaxonspox> Scunizi: do you share using GUI or conf file?
[00:32] <jaydee> not really no
[00:32] <Scunizi> Losha: not sure.. others on the LAN (XP machines) can create files/folders with 777 permissions..
[00:32] <jaydee> big thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:32] <Scunizi> zaxonspox: conf file
[00:32] <jeff_hann> jaydee, so, was wireless working before?
[00:32] <jeff_hann> jaydee, anytime
[00:32] <jaydee> at the moment
[00:33] <Losha> Scunizi: so it's only a problem when creating folders from within the server machine?
[00:33] <jaydee> yes
[00:33] <Scunizi> Losha: yes
[00:33] <jaydee> i thought i need to do this
[00:33] <jeff_hann> jaydee, ok, Gute Nacht
[00:33] <jeff_hann> :)
[00:33] <jaydee> he?
[00:33] <jeff_hann> :P
[00:33] <zaxonspox> Scunizi: did you tried this? create mask = 0777 directory mask = 0777 browsable = yes writable = yes guest ok = yes
[00:34] <quietone> exit
[00:34] <jeff_hann> jaydee, muss jetzt gehen
[00:34] <euxneks> does ubuntu use iptables?
[00:34] <jeff_hann> jaydee, Tschuess
[00:34] <jaydee> wie du bist deutsch?
[00:34] <euxneks> if so, where is the iptables conf file located?
[00:34] <jeff_hann> jaydee, nein, aus Rumanien
[00:34] <Scunizi> zaxonspox: Losha  here's my smb.conf file http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/C06LEcD5
[00:34] <jaydee> achso
[00:35] <nishanth_>  does anyone know why you dont get the normal desktop when you boot in recovery mode?
[00:35] <jaydee> in der schule  gelernt?
[00:35] <jeff_hann> jaydee, and I know a lil' bit of German, that's all
[00:35] <psusi> nishanth_, because you're in recovery mode of course
[00:35] <Scunizi> nishanth_: you're not suppose to .. it's for fixing things.
[00:35] <jeff_hann> nein, auf Sat 1 und Pro Sieben :P
[00:35] <ZykoticK9> !crosspost > nishanth_
[00:35] <jaydee> ok gute nacht! ;)
[00:35] <onisaiga0388> Hi everyone how do I run a program as root?
[00:36] <jeff_hann> jaydee, du auch
[00:36] <ZykoticK9> onisaiga0388, sudo
[00:36] <onisaiga0388> ok
[00:36] <jaydee> danke bye
[00:36] <pakete> hello everyone!
[00:36] <pakete> Have question on few minor issues with running 10.4
[00:36] <onisaiga0388> so what do i type to run KVPM?
[00:36] <ZykoticK9> onisaiga0388, be sure to use "gksu" if it's a GUI app though
[00:36] <onisaiga0388> as root?
[00:36] <nishanth_> well a blue screen appears and gives the option resume normal boot.....and still it does not give the normal desktop
[00:37] <tochiro> hi all
[00:37] <zaxonspox> Scunizi: what search for? with what is problem?
[00:37] <Losha> Scunizi: I see directory mask = 755 which is rwxr-xr-x. If it works how i think, only root has read access to those created directories. Try changing this and restarting smb...
[00:37] <tochiro> ciao a tutti
[00:37] <tochiro> ho un problema con ubuntu 8.04
[00:37] <tochiro> e amule
[00:37] <mawst> Anyone know if you can run ubuntu on the ipad?
[00:37] <ZykoticK9> !it | tochiro
[00:37] <pakete> there is an error message "broken pipe" on boot-up...and no splash screen, only black...how can you adjust this???
[00:38] <Scunizi> zaxonspox: Losha may have the answer..
[00:38] <xangua> mawst: no
[00:38] <onisaiga0388> wow thanks for telling me about "gksu"
[00:38] <mawst> Oh well I guess the default os is fine.
[00:38] <nfette> Hello. Does upgrading an Ubuntu release preserve boot options for other operating systems on Grub?
[00:38] <mawst> For now. muwahhahaha
[00:38] <mawst> RC!
[00:38] <deposito> Hello everybody. I need help configurind dosemu. Im traing to run a remote programa. But i already mount the windows disk at /mnt/farmatronic
[00:38] <pakete> can anybody help with boot screen???
[00:38] <deposito> and i couldnt
[00:38] <Scunizi> Losha: 755 should be overridden by the new mask in the shares section.. at least that's what I've been reading.
[00:39] <ByteJuggler> cheers peeps, gotta go sleep
[00:39] <Cristian> hola
[00:39] <Cristian> necesito un poco de ayuda con la instalacion... alguien me puede dar una mano?
[00:39] <sebsebseb> !pt | Cristian
[00:40] <Losha> Scunizi: only one way to find out for sure... BTW, what *are* the permissions on dirs created on the server?
[00:40] <Hajuu> Hey guys - What would be the most likely place to find a log of why my server keeps dropping its network connection?
[00:40] <Scunizi> Losha: 755 when created by me and 777 when created by everyone else
[00:40] <xangua> !es > Cristian
[00:40] <Losha> Scunizi: that 755 seems likely to be more than just coincidence...
[00:41] <psusi> can evolution be configured to cache the last 14 days of mail locally?  I can only seem to find a check box to download it all, or leave it all on the server.
[00:42] <Losha> sebsebseb: long time no see...
[00:42] <isaac_> WARNING:  The following question is going to make you ask yourself, "Who would want that and why?"
[00:42] <isaac_> Is there a way to make Ubuntu reboot itself every say...... two hours or so?
[00:42] <Scunizi> Losha: what I've been told is if on my machine I haven't mounted the samba share with cifs or smbfs then my system permissions structure takes over.. If I mount the share as smbfs then samba's configs are suppose to take over the control of the permissions..
[00:42] <psion> I have UNR installed on this netbook and while I disabled screen dimming in the options, it keeps doing so.  is there another location to modify power options?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> Losha: uh yeah
[00:42] <Losha> isaac_: there is. But who would want that and why?
[00:43] <Scunizi> Hey sebsebseb
[00:43] <Hajuu> psion: have you checked in the bios?
[00:43] <psion> I haven't
[00:43] <sebsebseb> Hi Scunizi
[00:43] <Hajuu> you can always disable the screens power saving in there perminently
[00:43] <Hajuu> :)
[00:43] <isaac_> Great Losha!  Can you rtfm me to the appropriate site?  Google has let me down for once.
[00:43] <psion> Hajuu: thanks, I wasn't aware of that
[00:44] <Losha> isaac_: dunno if there's a site. Just put a reboot command into crontab under root. It's gonna annoy users...
[00:44] <psusi> isaac_, that's an odd request, why would you want to do that?  most people don't want to reboot EVER
[00:44] <Rafael_> can anybody tell me were is my mistake:
[00:44] <Rafael_> Executing: rsync.exe  -v -rlt -z --chmod=a=rw,Da+x --delete --exclude="/cygdrive/D/My Documents/Charts/Search" "/cygdrive/D/My Documents/" "192.168.1.11::backuptest/My Documents/"
[00:44] <Rafael_> sending incremental file list
[00:44] <Rafael_> rsync: send_files failed to open "/cygdrive/D/My Documents/Charts/Search/Data/Applications/Windows/MSS.log": Device or resource busy (16)
[00:44] <FloodBot4> Rafael_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <shams> hello
[00:45] <Hajuu> Hey guys - What would be the most likely place to find a log of why my server keeps dropping its network connection?
[00:45] <Losha> Scunizi: out of my depth at this point. Take you all of 15 seconds to test out my theory though...
[00:45] <psusi> Hajuu, in /var/log?
[00:45] <isaac_> psusi it's for a machine I want to leave bit torrenting a big file unsupervised, but the internet keeps going out after a while.  Reboot (and automatic login, and Transmission in startup programs list) would help.
[00:45] <isaac_> Where is........ crontab?
[00:46] <sebsebseb> Losha:  Scunizi  It's nice to know that I was missed :)
[00:46] <Scunizi> Losha: oh I think you have more then a theory.. I think that will work.. but is it the *only* way.. or the right way..
[00:46] <bastid_raZor> !cron | isaac_ follow the guide
[00:46] <Rafael_> can anybody help?
[00:46] <psusi> isaac_, I'd want to fix the network problem rather than reboot.... man crontab and cron... cron runs jobs automatically at certain times
[00:46] <isaac_> Alright, now we're cooking!
[00:46] <psion> Hajuu: unfortunately it wasn't an option in the bios :x the bios on this netbook is actually very limited
[00:47] <Scunizi> Losha: can you add a permissions statement to a mount command?
[00:47] <Losha> isaac_: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto. But psusi is right...
[00:47] <Losha> sebsebseb: you were missed, and not just by me...
[00:47] <Guest81452> How to Ubuntu Remote Desktop over ssh from Windows ?
[00:47] <psion> so I suppose I'll pose the question again: other than in settings >> power saving, where can I set powersaving options? my screen keeps dimming in the middle of a movie (vlc has disable screen saver enabled, it does it anyway)
[00:47] <psusi> now, back to TRYING to use evolution instead of thunderbird...
[00:48] <danutz> hello,does someone have some tutorials about ubuntu networking?
[00:48] <Losha> Scunizi: I see something called dir_mode in man mount.cifs but the explanation is sketchy (as with all things smbfs). If it works, and has no undesirable side effects, who's to say a solution is 'wrong'...
[00:48] <sebsebseb> Losha: by who?  pm if you want,  since well, you know what this place is like and off topic
[00:49] <Rafael_> anybody is so kind to help me?
[00:49] <deposito> Im having some problemas with this file http://pastebin.com/dEbDNCQA . Could someone give me a hand please? Thanks in advance
[00:49] <Scunizi> Losha: yea.. I was just reading through man mount.. haven't found the dir_mode yet..
[00:50] <dblur> hello!
[00:50] <zvorka> hi
[00:50] <dblur> heres what im tryin to do,
[00:51] <dblur> get a minimal installation of ubuntu running with openssh and subsonic along with java to stream media over a network
[00:51] <dblur> no the problem is with the filesystem, i have no idea what i should be using
[00:51] <Scunizi> Losha: there's also a "ownmask=value" statement I'm looking at
[00:51] <dblur> fat32?ext2/3?
[00:51] <Hajuu> dblur: If you're using ubuntu-server you should be in #ubuntu-server
[00:52] <Hajuu> dblur: for a media server, it is often ideal to install your OS on an ext3 partition, but then use a seperate NTFS partition for storing media.
[00:52] <Hajuu> This ensures that both windows and linux computers can directly use the media storage
[00:52] <isaac_> Thank you Losha, psusi.
[00:52] <dblur> Hajuu : why not fat32 ?
[00:52] <Hajuu> (Not essential, but a nice touch)
[00:52]  * isaac_ tips his hat and shuffles out the door.
[00:52] <Hajuu> because fat32 is.. very old?
[00:53] <Hajuu> fat32 wont support large drives either
[00:53] <Hajuu> because its entirely antiquated.
[00:53] <dblur> but does ubuntu have stable ntfs support ?
[00:53] <Hajuu> ofcourse.
[00:53] <Hajuu> thus why I suggested it
[00:53] <Hajuu> :)
[00:53] <Guest81452> Hajuu: ntfs-3g
[00:54] <Hajuu> Tell it to dblur not to me :P
[00:54] <Losha> Scunizi: interesting. I don't see outmask in my 8.04 man pages...
[00:55] <dblur> Guest81452 : ok, what about ntfs-3g?
[00:55] <Jordan_U> dblur: The ntfs support is completely stable and safe, the only catch is that there is no fsck for ntfs, so if it gets unmounted uncleanly you may have to run chkdsk from a windows machine before you can mount it again.
[00:55] <Scunizi> Losha: ownmask .. it's in the man mount file .. the dir_mode and file_mode options are in the man mount.cifs file
[00:55] <Hajuu> dblur: that's the apt package for installing read/write ntfs support
[00:55] <dblur> supports "Windows NT[citation needed]" -wikipedia
[00:55] <psusi> Hajuu, should be using ext4 these days
[00:55] <Hajuu> psusi: Not always, only if you need the extra features it brings.
[00:55] <Hajuu> Extra features = extra bulk
[00:56] <Hajuu> and for a system partition, thats not a good thing unless you require it for something.
[00:56] <psusi> Hajuu, no, the new features actually make for a faster filesystem that wastes less space
[00:56] <brax> Ugh, I thought I had a good idea today but someone had already taken it: theQuestion = (2*B)|!(2*B)
[00:56] <Hajuu> If you say so :P
[00:56] <Jordan_U> Hajuu: define "bulk"
[00:56] <thirdwatch> hello
[00:56] <Hajuu> as far as im aware it references far more information from the file table every request than ext3
[00:57] <psusi> I do say so ;)
[00:57] <Hajuu> which on a server especially creates a large amount more load.
[00:57] <nsadmin> you don't say?
[00:57] <linx|> depends on what the server does
[00:57] <thirdwatch> Lucid Lynx / how to move close button to the right on the active window?
[00:57] <dblur> aha
[00:58] <dblur> seems like the answer was ntfs, thx a lot.
[00:58] <psusi> you have that backwards hajuu... ext3 has to explicitly list every block a file contains, which for files larger than 12 blocks means it has to start allocating more data blocks just to hold block numbers... ext4 just writes the start block and length in the inode... much faster and uses less space
[00:58] <Jordan_U> Hajuu: No, extends mean that much less metadata is required in general.
[00:58] <Losha> Scunizi: not sure those options in mount will apply to cifs...
[00:58] <dblur> will hit you with more questions soon.
[00:58] <nsadmin> Need The Freaky Soup?
[00:58] <xangua> !lucid > thirdwatch
[00:58] <Scunizi> Losha: the arguments for dir_mode and file_mode need to be in octal ... what's 777 in octal?
[00:58] <psusi> Hajuu, the block allocator in ext4 also is smarter and does a better job minimizing fragmentation
[01:00] <rob__761> Is there a way to customize what is written at the context menu entries when creating custom commands?
[01:00] <psusi> Hajuu, also the uninit_bg feature of ext4 makes for significantly faster fscks
[01:00] <phyrrus> have you set your keymap right?
[01:00] <phyrrus> nvm
[01:00] <ritimbaks> hi, i just installed Lucid RC, it didnot installed my ati xpress200 grafic card,  i will install envyng  but it says therese no such as package in repositories.  how can i activate universe and multiverse repositories ?
[01:00] <sebsebseb> !lucid | ritimbaks
[01:01] <tokam> how can I solve this dependency issue? libdjvulibre15 (>=3.5.20) but it is not installable
[01:02] <SpaceCowboy40404> is there a way to make a desktop item that when i double click on it, it will 1) kill a specific process and then 2) open a terminal and 3) change the directory to a specific place and 4) launch a program in that directory? would this be difficult to create or easy?
[01:02] <tokam> can I use this one? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10780472/libdjvulibre15_3.5.20-2_ia64.deb
[01:02] <reduz> question! anyone got ubuntu to work on a vaio VPCCW21FX ?
[01:02] <phyrrus> sudo apt-get -f install
[01:03] <tokam> ?
[01:03] <tokam> so? apt-get -f install libdjvulibre15
[01:03] <linx|> reduz: looking at the results in google from the ubuntu forums for your model number, yes
[01:03] <Losha> Scunizi: 777 is octal I think...
[01:03] <randomusr> does anyone know how to view quicktime .mov/or image files in writer?
[01:04] <linx|> Losha: correct
[01:04] <reduz> linx|, it seems to work but installing nvidia driver makes it crash upon start
[01:04] <Scunizi> Losha: didn't like it and it didn't work.. mode=777 mounts without error but still 755 permissions :(
[01:04] <Jordan_U> randomusr: Do you mean in a document?
[01:04] <randomusr> Jordan_U, yep
[01:04] <Losha> Scunizi: time for plan B then...
[01:04] <linx|> reduz: which driver did you install ?
[01:05] <reduz> linx|, i tried the binary nvidia blob using jockey, given the default one is pretty slow
[01:05] <Scunizi> Losha: almost.. once mounted it does give username/group as the samba default unauthenticated user of "nobody/nobody" .. so that's encouraging.
[01:05] <Elems> I'm taking this netbook for a spin to see if I want to buy it from this guy. Its a Dell Inspiron something, running Hardy, and I can't get it to connect to my router. I think maybe Hardy doesn't support the settings my router has? WPA2 Preshared key, TKIP encryption? any ideas?
[01:05] <Backugan> hi
[01:05] <Jordan_U> randomusr: You sure you don't want to use OO Presentation? (I don't know if it supports quicktime specifially but it seems like it might be a better tool for the job)
[01:05] <SpaceCowboy40404> Is there a way to make a desktop item that when i double click on it, it will 1) open a termina 2) kill a specific process and then 3) change the directory to a specific place and 4) launch a program in that directory? would this be difficult to create or easy?
[01:06] <randomusr> Jordda, Ooops, yes I mean presenter/presentation
[01:06] <dblur> possible to detect a change in the power source?
[01:06] <tokam> root@Ubuntu-Linux:~# apt-get -f install libdjvulibre15 3.5.20-2
[01:06] <tokam> how to install the version?
[01:06] <tokam> my command is wrong
[01:06] <dblur> as in when the usp starts giving power to the server, i want to shut it down in x mins
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Elems: 10.04 LTS will be released in a few days, you might try upgrading.
[01:06] <dblur> feasible ?
[01:07] <tokam> I need to install this libdjvulibre15_3.5.20-2_amd64.deb
[01:07] <Elems> Jordan_U Yea, I know my version is old, but I can't update because I don't have root access :D just taking it for a spin. I want to make sure this network card can support my settings... what command would I use to find out the network card real quick?
[01:08] <Jordan_U> randomusr: You tried insert > movie or sound?
[01:08] <Jordan_U> Elems: lspci
[01:08] <randomusr> Jordan_U, it already has movie
[01:08] <Jordan_U> Elems: Can you try a liveCD?
[01:08] <randomusr> Jordan_U, this was a .ppt created on a mac with .mov video I believe
[01:09] <SpaceCowboy40404> Is there a way to make a desktop item that when i double click on it, it will 1) open a terminal 2) kill a specific process and then 3) change the directory to a specific place and 4) launch a program in that directory? would this be difficult to create or easy? OR where could I start looking to learn something to do this?
[01:09] <Elems> Jordan_U I wish, but its a netbook, no dvd drive. I could use a flash drive but I can't find my 4gb drive at the moment. Feeling so rusty with linux right now...
[01:09] <KruyKaze> hink, how does one order a 64bit ubuntu cd?
[01:10] <tokam> found it here http://packages.ubuntu.com/sl/hardy/amd64/libdjvulibre15/download
[01:11] <randomusr> Jordan_U, I get an error in the .ppt stating that quicktime and decompressor are needed
[01:11] <Scunizi> does sudo mount -a .. mount any recent additions to fstab?
[01:12] <Jordan_U> randomusr: If you can play the movie in totem it should automatically offer to install the needed codecs.
[01:12] <miked595> Scunizi: yes
[01:12] <Scunizi> miked595: thanks
[01:14] <Scunizi> How do I find the gid of samba's "nobody" user
[01:14] <jtaylor13> I have a ubuntu 10.4 question.I have a new sound theme.can't copy it to the sound folder.need permission.
[01:14] <Jordan_U> !lucid | jtaylor13
[01:14] <xangua> !lucid > jtaylor13
[01:16] <jtaylor13> can anyone help me get permission to drag into a sound folder?
[01:16] <Elems> Jordan_U there is no option under WPA & WPA2 for tkip encryption which is what my router uses. I'd change the router settings but for work the router must use those specific settings, and 6 other computers in the family rely on these settings staying the same.
[01:17] <Scunizi> jtaylor13: gksudo nautilus .. gives nautilus root permissions *dangerous*.. drag drop files then close the window
[01:17] <jtaylor13> will try thanks
[01:18] <Xpistos> is there a way to ls -R >> name.txt that only prints files in the folders?
[01:19] <TuxOtaku> hey guys, I'm using ubuntu karmic on an acer aspire one ZA3. I want to set up bluetooth, but it doesn't seem to see the netbook's onboard bluetooth adapter
[01:19] <jtaylor13> scuzni  You rock,thanks
[01:20] <miked595> anyone here ever use iTerm on Mac OSX?
[01:20] <ZykoticK9> miked595, this isn't OSX support - is there an Apple channel?
[01:21] <akeem> Does any one know how to do that cool thing where you can light your screen on fire?
[01:21] <miked595> not asking for OSX support, but my question requires knowledge of that app for context
[01:21] <Losha> Scunizi: nobody should have an entry in /etc/passwd...
[01:22] <ZykoticK9> akeem, install CCSM then enable "Paint fire on the screen"
[01:22] <pakete> hey guys, anyone can help with boot screen?
[01:22] <pakete> it fails to be...=)
[01:23] <miked595> ZykoticK9: iTerm had the option to bind all the tabs in a window together so commands typed in one tab appear in all others
[01:23] <pakete> in 10.4
[01:23] <pakete> 10.04*
[01:23] <xangua> !lucid > pakete
[01:23] <miked595> s/had/has/
[01:23] <ZykoticK9> miked595, sorry i only played with Mac for a short time - don't know of a way to do that on Ubuntu though.  Good luck
[01:23] <hal1> on net install, what is the "basic ubuntu server" package option?
[01:24] <Jordan_U> randomusr: What type of file is the presentation, .pptx?
[01:24] <pakete> miked595, sorry can't get the msg
[01:24] <pakete> using thisss...epiphany...
[01:24] <miked595> pakete: huh?
[01:25] <pakete> well mgs doesnt go thru
[01:25] <Jordan_U> !screen | miked595
[01:25] <miked595> pakete: I can see ur msg
[01:25] <pakete> ok
[01:25] <pakete> thx
[01:26] <pakete> also...can actually jfs slow down performance??? in comparison to ext fs,,,anyway which is the best choice???
[01:27] <pakete> miked595, i mean boot splash screen
[01:27] <pakete> it just is black
[01:27] <miked595> Jordan_U: I use screen as well but most of the time I just want to log into a few different servers and send them all the same command easily. I've tried clusterSSH as well and it lease much to be desired as well.
[01:27] <pakete> i have no normal logo...it gives some error "broken pipe" or sthg and just boots up without the spash
[01:28] <pakete> splash*
[01:28] <miked595> pakete: not sure, have you tried recovery mode from grub boot menu?
[01:29] <pakete> no...it is 10.04...it doesn't even give me a grub menu option
[01:29] <xangua> !lucid > pakete
[01:29] <iWolf> Rebooting, brb
[01:29] <ZykoticK9> pakete, hold shift on boot to get Grub menu -- and yes, #ubuntu+1
[01:29] <miked595> pakete: join #ubuntu+1
[01:30] <pakete> like...ok i am using netbook...when i used karmic koala there were no problem with boot splash...in lucid beta - it fails...
[01:31] <pakete> netbook version i mean
[01:31] <jaydee> hi all
[01:31] <jaydee> airodump-ng blackscreen during the scan
[01:31] <Jordan_U> pakete: Do you understand what people mean when they are telling you to join #ubuntu+1?
[01:31] <jaydee> whats the prob?
[01:31] <hal1> my net install fails after select and install software.  Can anyone help me with this, please?  does it actually have access to the install files?
[01:32] <miked595> Jordan_U: he is in #ubuntu+1 now.. he just needs to stop cross posting
[01:33] <DavidJHeinrich2> does anyone know if it is possible to buy the reference versions of GPUs with their cooler-looking heatsinks?
[01:34] <datta> can i install other distro variants of linux in ubuntu without partitioning?
[01:35] <phyrrus> yes
[01:35] <phyrrus> but its difficult
[01:35] <xangua> datta: you will need to make partitions
[01:35] <phyrrus> no
[01:35] <phyrrus> boot sections
[01:35] <datta> isn't there any way like wubi in ubuntu?
[01:36] <rsa> ok im a linux noob and i just installed linux4one on my acer one 150 which is a version of ubuntu?. Is it possible to use compwiz?
[01:37] <Jordan_U> datta: Yes, lupin.
[01:37] <miked595> rsa, do you know if it has a decent 3d video card?
[01:37] <datta> Jordan_U: what way can you please inform me about it?
[01:38] <sambagirl> hi has anyone installed cinelerra in ubuntu?
[01:39] <hiexpo> need help with setting a static ip
[01:39] <skimj> Is it possible to set a conditional umask based on a regex? So that if a file is created with a name matching pattern A it gets permissions X but if it matches pattern B it gets permissions Y? I know how to search/replace after the file is created, but I want something more automated (and no, not a cron script)
[01:39] <Jordan_U> datta: https://launchpad.net/lubi
[01:39] <isaac_> !cron
[01:39] <Jordan_U> skimj: Try #bash
[01:40]  * isaac_ beats his head softly but firmly and repeatedly against the wall.
[01:40] <isaac_> Thud.  Thud.  Thud. Thud.
[01:40] <Razion> hello
[01:40] <ZykoticK9> sambagirl, i did a long time ago (so probably no help to ya) - found it pretty unstable.  You might want to check out pitivi (it's certainly not a feature rich as cinelerra though)
[01:41] <LzrdKing> my VGA monitor keeps shutting off and it won't wake up; sometimes unplugging either the power or the vga cale helps, sometimes not, sometimes it just wakes up on its own.  DPMS is turned off.  how can i make it stay on?  my DVI monitor does not have this problem (the are the same model monitor, switching the inputs helped for about 5 minutes)
[01:41] <sambagirl> ok thanks zykotick9
[01:41] <datta> Jordan_U: thank you for the link
[01:41] <hiexpo> isaac_,  - need help i need to set a static ip for eth
[01:42] <isaac_> hiexpo, I'm a basic end user, the kind of person Ubuntu was (ostensibly) made for.  I would be of no help I'm afraid.
[01:42] <isaac_> But a static IP would probably be the province of your internet provider I think.
[01:42] <hiexpo> ok thanks
[01:42] <ryan__> I am on an old Imac g3 SE, I had to use the No-video to install ubuntu, now i have it installed i am at a 256 bit color res with no option to change
[01:42] <hiexpo> no
[01:43] <WayneT3> Hey folks; has anybody in here already upgraded to the frozen 10.04 beta?
[01:43] <ZykoticK9> hiexpo, you can either use nm-applet or /etc/network/interfaces to set a static ip (the first way is much easier, less complicated)
[01:43] <ZykoticK9> WayneT3, #ubuntu+1 for lucid discussion/support please
[01:43] <ryan__> I have tried modifying the xorg file , but any changes causes it to freeze at "pulse audio" on start up
[01:44] <WayneT3> Ooops..sorry; newbie.
[01:45] <ryan__> Any ideas on how to change the resolution
[01:45] <hiexpo> ZykoticK9, ok i will check it out
[01:45] <Hajuu> I want to build a city under the sea, can ubuntu do this yet?
[01:46] <ZykoticK9> Hajuu, do you have a real support question?
[01:46] <ryan__> ?
[01:46] <ryan__> Does no response mean no one knows?
[01:46] <LzrdKing> guys, my monitor just woke up and i wasn't anywhere near it; what causes a monitor to wake up and go to sleep when it feels like it?
[01:47] <Hajuu> LzrdKing: there was probably some system activity
[01:47] <ryan__> Is my text visible?
[01:47] <Hajuu> For example a window activating will cause the window to wake up
[01:47] <Hajuu> I believe
[01:47] <LzrdKing> Hajuu: and moving the mouse and typing any playing video isn't system activity?
[01:47] <Hajuu> huh
[01:48] <LzrdKing> Hajuu: my VGA monitor keeps shutting off and it won't wake up; sometimes unplugging either the power or the vga cale helps, sometimes not, sometimes it just wakes up on its own.  DPMS is turned off.  how can i make it stay on?  my DVI monitor does not have this problem (the are the same model monitor, switching the inputs helped for about 5 minutes)
[01:48] <ryan__> Can anyone read this? Seriously.
[01:48] <ZykoticK9> ryan__, we see you
[01:48] <Hajuu> dude, thats NOT what you just said.
[01:48] <LzrdKing> ryan__: no
[01:48] <genii> ryan__: Yes. Try however #ubuntu-powerpc
[01:48] <ryan__> I will try that thank you.
[01:48] <LzrdKing> Hajuu: no i said that about 5 minutes ago
[01:49] <ryan__> #ubuntu-powerpc
[01:49] <kkb110> hi is anybody here in #archlinux ?
[01:49] <genii> ryan__: /join #ubuntu-powerpc
[01:49] <kaushal> hi
[01:49] <LzrdKing> Hajuu: any ideas?
[01:49] <kaushal> i have files naming ent-recredit-stats-2010-04-05.csv upto ent-recredit-stats-2010-04-20.csv. I need to rename it to 2010-04-05.csv upto 2010-04-20.csv
[01:49] <kaushal> is there a easy way to do it ?
[01:50] <jason__> is there a way to enable SElinux?
[01:51] <Typos_King> kaushal:    I use krename, it can do stuff like renaming by fragments of string, or regex
[01:51] <mikkelgj> jason__, think SElinux might require a fundamentally different approach to building the distro. But i could be wrong
[01:51] <mikkelgj> jason__, if you want to use SElinux i would personally just pick a distro that uses it by default
[01:51] <jason__> yeah i think i will try that
[01:51] <mikkelgj> but dunno
[01:51] <mikkelgj> maybe you can enable in selinux
[01:51] <jason__> ubuntu is great though no doubt
[01:51] <mikkelgj> enable selinux in ubuntu*
[01:52] <jason__> it says that you can enabl it but that you would have to know how to set it all up in ubuntu
[01:52] <mikkelgj> should probably wait for someone who knows more, i've never tried
[01:52] <mikkelgj> only used selinux in fedora
[01:53] <mikkelgj> jason__, may i ask why you want to enable it? =)
[01:53] <mikkelgj> i never found a reason why to use it in fedora....
[01:53] <jason__> extra security of course
[01:53] <mikkelgj> For your desktop machine?
[01:54] <LzrdKing> and it just went out :((
[01:55] <LzrdKing> my VGA monitor keeps shutting off and it won't wake up; sometimes unplugging either the power or the vga cale helps, sometimes not, sometimes it just wakes up on its own.  DPMS is turned off.  how can i make it stay on?  my DVI monitor does not have this problem (the are the same model monitor, switching the inputs helped for about 5 minutes)
[01:55] <jason__> mikau, the desktop is just a server with extra gui
[01:56] <jason__> someone keeps hacking my machine
[01:56] <linx|> jason__: apart from different standard packages and kernel ?
[01:56] <TuxOtaku> anyone here use bluetooth on ubuntu?
[01:56] <ravibn> Hi! There is something I need to fix for me to enable to login from console. When I booted ubuntu from recovery mode and went to logon from console it kept on asking for the username & pwd How can I fix this ?
[01:57] <TuxOtaku> ubuntu karmic to be exact
[01:57] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[01:57] <jason__> TuxOtaku, used it once you have to enable the blutooth in woindoews first on some models
[01:57] <ravibn> Tux0taku : yes! Karmic kola 9.10
[01:58] <SpaceBass> lost power, hard drop and now my software raid5 won't come back - seem to have lost superblocks, any way to recover
[01:58] <LzrdKing> guys, my monitor woke up by itself, its like 3 minutes on, 3 minutes off
[01:58] <TuxOtaku> jason__, well ain't that fun...I don't run windows at all on this netbook.
[01:58] <jason__> tuxlinux, eee pc?
[01:59] <jason__> hi ActionParsnip
[02:00] <jason__> this guy ActionParsnip answers questions like mad
[02:00] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: can you help me with my monitor sleeping issue?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> yo jason__
[02:00] <ActionParsnip>  /msg MemoServ READ NEW
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: sup
[02:00] <TuxOtaku> jason__, nope. acer aspire one ZA3
[02:01] <jason__> TuxOtaku, well i know using karmic UNR on eeePC the bluetooth needed to be initialized once in windows from there on out i didnt need windows
[02:01] <jtaylor13> anyone know a command to install .tar.gz sound theme
[02:01] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: my monitor is shutting itself off every few minutes for about 3 minutes, then it comes back on. DPMS is turned off.  how can i make it stay on?  my DVI monitor does not have this problem (the are the same model monitor, switching the inputs helped for about 5 minutes)
[02:02] <mawst> Does anyone know what the deal is--why fonts get all uglified after you install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:02] <mawst> I mean c'mon
[02:03] <neddludd2> mawst : what version
[02:03] <Typos_King> hehe
[02:03] <jtaylor13> file:///home/james/Desktop/hackers%20evolution%20sounds.tar.gz
[02:03] <jtaylor13> how to install this please.
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: I have some options in my xorg.conf to disable stupid sleeping: http://pastebin.com/zLmMqfF8
[02:04] <phyrrus> sudo apt-get install alien
[02:04] <phyrrus> then alien ...
[02:04] <Typos_King> mawst:   uglified?   you mean, antialiasing settings may not be what you want heheh
[02:04] <phyrrus> then dpkg -i pkg
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: karmic doesnt ship with an xorg.conf but i keep one backed up :). Try setting a lower refresh rate may help
[02:04] <mawst> Where do I check those out Typos_King
[02:05] <Typos_King> mawst:   in kde, System Settings > Appearance > Fonts
[02:05] <mawst> Yeah but I mean in Gnome.
[02:05] <mawst> After I install KDE, gnome fuglified.
[02:05] <mawst> :P
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> !alien | phyrrus
[02:05] <Typos_King> hehe
[02:05] <jason__> mgj, u there
[02:05] <mawst> Firefox was hit the hardest I think
[02:06] <mawst> Yuck
[02:06] <mawst> I tried changing them all to bitstream vera sans but...
[02:06] <phyrrus> umm apt and alien are fine
[02:06] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: this line? "VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0"
[02:06] <mawst> Still yucky for example compared to xchat
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> phyrrus: for high level apps yes, for libs and such its not such a great idea
[02:06] <mawst> It's like there's new default fonts KDE puked out
[02:06] <Typos_King> heh
[02:06] <jason__> the reason i like selinux is that it consolodates the apps incase one is compromised by a exploit
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: no, the bottom lines
[02:06] <fox-m> miked595, so what do i do now???
[02:06] <Typos_King> mawst:  yeah, FF with no font antialiasing doesn't do well heehe
[02:06] <phyrrus> ActionParsnip: i dont believe that was though.
[02:06] <fox-m> i installed headers?
[02:06] <fox-m> ...
[02:07] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: what bottom lines?
[02:07] <Typos_King> mawst:  as opposed to other browsers, like Opera which does fine either
[02:07] <fox-m> is there a point to install all updates anyway???
[02:07] <phyrrus> yes
[02:07] <phyrrus> security and patches
[02:07] <LzrdKing> i'd pastebin my xorg.conf but i don't want to install 171 mb of packages to use firefox
[02:07] <mawst> I did set the smoothing and things in the Gnome appearance manager thing. Doesn't seem to be helping FF.
[02:08] <phyrrus> use fluxbox
[02:08] <radicaltissuecor> im trying to get incollector working on ubuntu (mono) the getdeb package doesnt work and im not sure how to debug it
[02:08] <phyrrus> and google chrome
[02:08] <fox-m> do these patches ans so, do they affect boot splash issues???
[02:08] <radicaltissuecor> have a few clues
[02:08] <Typos_King> mawst:  in gnome, System > Preferenceds > Font
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: the ones about the monitor off, righ at the very bottom of the file
[02:09] <OxDeadC0de> how can I make *buntu automatically run fsck on an unclean shutdown like it used to?
[02:09] <LzrdKing> phyrrus: whats the package name for chrome? not chromium!
[02:09] <hollie> Can someone tell me why I cant control the flash button?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: chromium is just the daily build of chrome, i use it and i kicks ass
[02:09] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: i don't have them
[02:09] <phyrrus> its in the google repository
[02:09] <phyrrus> gotta google it
[02:09] <radicaltissuecor> OxDeadC0de, it does if the filesystem isnt journalling
[02:10] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: chromium was some kinda game
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> !google | phyrrus
[02:10] <phyrrus> fine
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: chromium-browser is the browser but you are right chromium is a game
[02:10] <ravibn> Hi! There is something I need to fix for me to enable to login from console. When I booted ubuntu from recovery mode and went to logon from console it kept on asking for the username & pwd How can I fix this ?
[02:10] <hack> hey how ca i do to apply a theme wiht plymouth at terminal on gnome?
[02:10] <phyrrus> www.google.com/chrome/index.html?hl=en&brand=CHMA&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-bk&utm_medium=ha
[02:10] <OxDeadC0de> I want it always to even with journals on unclean
[02:10] <ZykoticK9> hack, #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support
[02:11] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: ther last section in my xorg.conf is "Screen"
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[02:11] <phyrrus> for updates to chrome you need to follow these steps. www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ubuntu704.html
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: yes if you add the section from mine and restart x (or reboot) you can use those flags
[02:12] <DavidJHeinrich2> what apps use the GPU in Linux other than games?
[02:12] <LzrdKing> hah! i have no add-apt-repository!
[02:12] <hollie> Can someone tell me why I cant control the flash button?
[02:12] <ZykoticK9> DavidJHeinrich2, glxgears is a simple one
[02:13] <DavidJHeinrich2> ZykoticK9: yea, I'm referring to either rendering or image manipulation programs or other productivity programs...i.e., useful programs
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: ko then add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main to /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:13] <fox-m> i spent 2 hours at the channel and still have no support for solving black screen issue!!!
[02:13] <ZykoticK9> hollie, are you using 64bit?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: you will also need this key: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[02:13] <fox-m> can anyone actually help?
[02:13] <LzrdKing> wow so much work for a browser
[02:13] <DavidJHeinrich2> also, if you have the latest generation of GPU, will Compiz work very well even if you're using multiple 2560x1600 LCDs?
[02:13]  * LzrdKing installs firefox
[02:14] <fox-m> or lynx is in deep dev still?
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: its like adding any ppa
[02:14] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: i don't do that :P
[02:14] <DavidJHeinrich2> i.e., will Compiz work well even on the "HTPC" (ATI HD 5450) GPUs at high resolution?
[02:14] <phyrrus> LzrdKing: use chrome
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: whatever, do it how you will
[02:14] <logannc> ver irc.bsdnet.net
[02:15] <logannc> server irc.bsdnet.net
[02:15] <phyrrus> well, gotta go now
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> DavidJHeinrich2: sure should be fnie
[02:16] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: where is your xorg.conf?
[02:17] <LzrdKing> meanwhile, since it last came back opn, the screen has not blanked again
[02:17] <lrc04> hi...
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the full filename and path
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> !hi | lrc04
[02:18] <lrc03> woy
[02:18] <lrc03> ngapain lu
[02:18] <lrc04> woy dik ol muluk !
[02:19] <radicaltissuecor> i want to install incollector unto ubuntu using getdeb. there are problems it installs doesnt run and looks for weird files says strace
[02:19] <lrc03> gw lagi downLOAD
[02:19] <lrc04> bokep ???
[02:19] <lrc03> LAMBEMU
[02:19] <Pici> !en | lrc03 lrc04
[02:19] <lrc04> download wae
[02:19] <lrc04> invention ki !
[02:19] <hiexpo> everytime i reboot my eth goes up one started with eth 0 of coarse now i am at eth 67 and when i reboot again i will be eth68
[02:19] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: you said to add lines from yours to mine.... i know where mine is...
[02:20] <lrc03> lah kue ki wong suruh nyari pa ktemunya pa
[02:20] <lrc04> dancuk
[02:20] <hiexpo> this makes no sense
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: yes i pastebinned my xorg.conf for you to review
[02:20] <Pici> !id | lrc04 lrc03
[02:20] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: what was the link?
[02:20] <lrc04> koe iki ngomong opo????
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: http://www.science.uva.nl/research/air/wiki/LogicalInterfaceNames
[02:21] <lrc04> offline dulu ya ?
[02:21] <LzrdKing> i foiund it
[02:21] <mgj> jason__, i am now
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: http://pastebin.com/LASRpXTY
[02:22] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: ahh the "ServerFlags" section?  you have the same refresh rates as i do
[02:23] <LzrdKing> ok, brb, restarting X
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: i just use those as thats what nvidia-xconfig spits out
[02:24] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: my nvidia-xconfig did not!
[02:24] <britany_okla> hey can someone make a suggestion of software to duplicate dvd's not copywrited
[02:24] <LzrdKing> but so far so good, X came right back!
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> britany_okla: gnomebaker or any other burning software can burn DVD to DVD, even with a single drive
[02:25] <britany_okla> actionparsnip thanku
[02:25] <LzrdKing> ohhh, it hates boxee
[02:25] <Mixon851> anyone know if there is any new development on ati drivers?
[02:25] <LzrdKing> it just blanked
[02:26] <Mixon851> for 10.04*
[02:26] <Pici> Mixon851 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[02:27] <kuntay> hey wazzz up?
[02:27] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: any other suggestions?
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: what for?
[02:28] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: for preveinting my monitor from blanking
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | Mixon851
[02:28] <IdleOne> is there any reason I should chose to install 64bit over 32 bit? I have 4 gigs of ram
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: thats all i know dude, sorry
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: 32bit will not see the full 4gb with pae
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> *without
[02:29] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: thank you
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: if you do a lot of audio conversions or video encoding then 64bit will be useful
[02:29] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: another good reason. I will be converting dvd collection
[02:30] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: thanks for thr info :)
[02:30] <IdleOne> the*
[02:31] <LzrdKing> now the baklight is flashing but the screen is still off
[02:31] <LzrdKing> backlight
[02:31] <britany_okla> actionparsnip the gnomebaker doesn't have where i can copy a video dvd it has data and audio am i doing something wrong
[02:32] <mawst> Figured it out.
[02:32] <ZykoticK9> britany_okla, you could make an ISO out of the DVD "cat /dev/cdrom >> image.iso" then burn it multiple times?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> britany_okla: at the top i think, you can select "copy disc"
[02:32] <mawst> KDE makes a ~/.fonts.conf that literally rapes your eyes.
[02:33] <mawst> Utterly disgusting.
[02:33] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: any insight on how to partition a 1TB hard drive. I know what tools to use and how to do it. Just wondering on partition sizes and amount of swap space.
[02:33] <mawst> Deleting that file is highly recommended.
[02:33] <mawst> (restores Firefox Anti-aliasing)
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: i always use: 10gb for /; 2xRAM for swap and the rest for home, you could split it up for images / videos / music if you wish
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> mawst: i'd log a bug
[02:34] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: 8gig swap really?
[02:35] <britany_okla> found it thankyou
[02:35] <IdleOne> sounds good to me :)
[02:35] <Golgata> hi! is a script-link in /etc/rcX.d which is executed at system boot also executed with a "stop"-parameter at system shutdown?
[02:35] <britany_okla> actionparsnip thankyou i found it
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: if you have that much ram then 4gb will be ok, maybe 5
[02:36] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: thanks again.
[02:36] <pyrophelia> I just compiled a 2.6.33.2 kernel and my ide drive is now showing up as /dev/sdk  (yes I have that many sata disks.)  The problem is I like have my IDE boot disk listed in /dev/ as /dev/hda*.  what do I need to change in my kernel config to get this back to the way it was
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: np man
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: you shouldnt need it much but if you want hibernate etc you'll need it
[02:37] <Jordan_U> pyrophelia: Is there a particular reason you care about the device name?
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: set a low vm.swappiness too ;)
[02:37] <pyrophelia> Jordan_U, I have 45 Sata disks in this system.  It would be nice to be able to seperate the ide disk from the sata :)
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: keeps your apps in ram rather than useing swap
[02:37] <Jordan_U> pyrophelia: /dev/disk/by-path/ ?
[02:38] <pyrophelia> Jordan_U, I think you missed the point.
[02:38] <emgomez> does anyone want to try tackling a really fun printer problem? the syslog is here: http://pastebin.com/prVt1YGr
[02:38] <pyrophelia> Jordan_U, I know there is an option I have over looked in the kernel config that labels ide disks as hd instead of sd but I'm not sure which one it is.
[02:39] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, well read the link and he tells you what you should do but not how to
[02:39] <pyrophelia> jordan_U, this is my third 2.6.33.2 kernel on this system so I know it's possible.  (I do a lot of testing.)
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> emgomez: download the latest hplip from the hplip site and install it
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1393346
[02:40] <emgomez> done it. it didn't work
[02:40] <hiexpo> thanks
[02:40] <DavidJHeinrich> ...also, do ATI cards also do sound output to HDMI, and if so, is it better to use the "sound-card" on the Radeon GPU or to use a separate sound output from a sound-card (I have a Xonar STX)
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> DavidJHeinrich: i'd use a seperate sound card, less heartache. i havent seen many success stories with hdmi
[02:41] <DavidJHeinrich> ActionParsnip: yea, I already ave the Xonar, so I'm just wonderin'
[02:42] <emgomez> ActionParsnip, updating/reinstalling hplip didn't work, hotplugging didn't work (at this point, the autosetup isn't even working anymore). we tried hplip and updating the foo driver, which is what it's currently using. i think there's something more fundamentally wrong, but i don't know what and don't really understand the syslog too well
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> emgomez: does it work ok in the liveCD environment?
[02:45] <LzrdKing> acgtcould you maybe look at my xorg.conf and see if there is anything blatantly worng with it? http://pastebin.com/MqavpWU9
[02:45] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: could you maybe look at my xorg.conf and see if there is anything blatantly worng with it? http://pastebin.com/MqavpWU9
[02:45] <emgomez> ActionParsnip, oh, huh, i have no idea. i guess i better go download the iso
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: looks ok to me, what driver are you using?
[02:47] <colon> ihave a free partition. is it possible to designate it as /home, and move my home folder to it?
[02:47] <vincent> \join #bibos
[02:48] <Golgata> what happens when i shut down my system? if i am in runlevel 2, for example, are all the scripts in /etc/rc2.d calles with a "stop"-parm?
[02:48] <ZykoticK9> !runlevels | Golgata
[02:49] <hak3r> hey
[02:49] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: nvidia (do i need to be more specific?)
[02:49] <Golgata> sorry, but thats not an answer to my question...
[02:49] <karmic_koala> who knows wich is the last kernel?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: yes, the version, nvidia-settings will tell you
[02:50] <colon> ihave a free partition. is it possible to designate it as /home, and move my home folder to it? I never set up a dedicated /home partition on instalol
[02:51] <hiexpo> i give up \
[02:51] <ryan__> and when they find me, they'll eat my brain
[02:51] <colon> instalol? install*
[02:51] <Golgata> its because i am working on a script starting a virtual machine when the system boots, and the script kills the vm by sending acpi poweroff to it when called with "stop"-parameter. i thought the system calls the scripts in the current runlevel with a "stop"parm when shutting down, but it doesnt...
[02:52] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: 190.42, they worked fine until today
[02:53] <GotQuestions> Hello, I have some questions about Ubuntu
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> Golgata, VirtualBox by chance?
[02:53] <instalol> LzrdKing, what changed today? Did you update?
[02:53] <funkyHat> How could I remap right alt to super?
[02:53] <GotQuestions> I am trying to install it on a computer that is not connected tot eh internet
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: could try the 195 driver, it works on my 6150 onboard
[02:54] <Golgata> Zykotick9: indeed :D
[02:54] <GotQuestions> So how would you recommend doing so? It is a computer currently running Win98 which is CRAP. :(
[02:54] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: but why would i suddenly need to update when it worked ok on Monday?
[02:54] <ZykoticK9> Golgata, ya I tried struggling to get a boot/shutdown working with it a while ago as well - i was never successful, so I hope you have better luck :)
[02:55] <GotQuestions> I am rather discouraged that no one is replying... would there be a better channel for me to try this on?
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: well have a look at what changed around then to trigger it
[02:55] <ZykoticK9> Golgata, it is a feature I'd LOVE to see them add to VBox (can't understand why it's not there already)
[02:56] <LorgonJortle> Hello
[02:56] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: i installed the new version of boxee, but i rolled back to the older one already
[02:56] <haywire> GotQuestions: try me over on ubuntu-beginners where there is less traffic....
[02:56] <GotQuestions> Thanks haywire
[02:57] <Golgata> Zykotick9: boot is working, calling the script manually with "stop"-parm works too... have a look at http://pastebin.org/168968 :)
[02:57] <LorgonJortle> If I may, What would be a good distribution of Linux for someone taking an in-depth (yet still newbie) approach?
[02:58] <ZykoticK9> Golgata, that's beyond me man!  Hope you find a solution!
[02:58] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: running glxgears blanks the screen too
[02:58] <hurtado> necesito su ayudaaaa
[02:58] <hurtado> aunque en relidad el problema es de hardwaare
[02:59] <alpicola> !es | hurtado
[02:59] <hurtado> la pc se enciende,y no se ve el monitor,es como cuando el monitor esta conectado y encendido,pero la pc apagada
[02:59] <sebsebseb> Lordofkings: loads of good newbie distros not just Ubuntu,  there's  Mandriva, PC Linux OS,  SimplyMephis, and so on http://www.distrowatch.com
[02:59] <Golgata> Zykotick9: Problem is not my script, this works... problem is my lack of ubuntu-knowledge, i'm more into archlinux...
[03:00] <Golgata> i dont know what happens when shutting down the system
[03:00] <ZykoticK9> Golgata, if you are using Karmic, then to begin with it uses Upstart and not SysV
[03:00] <ZykoticK9> Golgata, that's why i sent you the !runlevels in the first place
[03:00] <pc1oad1etter> I am interested in using gOS' window manager/theme in ubuntu. the instructions I have found are for older versions, and I read in one place that it would not work on Karmic.  Is that accurate?
[03:00] <draginx> Ubuntu is not even picking up my ipod nano -- any ideas why?
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: i'd try the 195 driver, it may help
[03:00] <sebsebseb> draginx: sure
[03:00] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis,  - i need help with everytime i reboot it changes my nic eth 66 when i reboot it will be eth67 eveywhere i been sent has been a dead end
[03:00] <sebsebseb> draginx: it's  hardware from Apple, who aren't Linux friendly
[03:01] <draginx> sebsebseb, yeah bu tit was working with older versions of buuntu (using 9.10 now)
[03:01] <Golgata> Zykotick9: i dont know even one of them...
[03:01] <sebsebseb> drazak: Banshee can sync ipods.  and Ubuntu 10.04 and other distros with that version of Gnome, get support for Iphones and such.  altough Apple might brake it with an update
[03:01] <sebsebseb> draginx: ^^^^   10.04 isn't out yet April 29th is the release
[03:02] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:Buenas noches
[03:02] <ZykoticK9> Golgata, Upstart was introduced with Karmic - and it replaced the rc.d runlevel stuff that you are trying to currently use.  I don't think Upstart is very well documented at this point however :(
[03:02] <draginx> sebner, meh w/e the latest one is
[03:02] <draginx> sebsebseb, *
[03:03] <LorgonJortle> What would be a good Linux distro for a relatively new user that wants to take an in-depth approach to learning Linux?
[03:03] <draginx> LorgonJortle, ubuntu :P
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> LorgonJortle: for an indepth approach i suggest gentoo
[03:03] <beyondcr_> +1ubuntu
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> LorgonJortle: its as in depth as I think you can get
[03:03] <sebsebseb> draginx: not sure about that, but sometimes after an upgrade things stop working.  However if it worked in  previous versions before 9.10 then I guess it should in Karmic as well.
[03:03] <beyondcr_> #+1ubuntu
[03:04] <ZykoticK9> beyondcr, it's #ubuntu+1
[03:04] <beyondcr_> lol thanks
[03:04] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: 195.22?
[03:04] <sebsebseb> draginx: however since Apple don't support Desktop Linux,  it's not really Ubuntu or Gnome's fault, if you get issues with it
[03:04] <sebsebseb> when using them
[03:04] <Golgata> Zykotick9: uh, maybe i got it, i'll try creating a K55myscript-link in /etc/rc0.d
[03:04] <deltaray2> Is there a command line version of the distribution upgrader?
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: sure, if you add the nvidia vpau ppa you can install it from there
[03:04] <LorgonJortle> Alright, thanks.
[03:04] <Lordofkings> sebsebseb: are you a bot..or some kinda of AI on this virtual world advertising plp
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | deltaray2
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> deltaray2: look at the server upgrade method
[03:05] <sebsebseb> Lordofkings: what am I advertising?  nothing at all
[03:06] <sebsebseb> Lordofkings: oh you're the distro guy
[03:06] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, you just passed the turing test
[03:06] <Lordofkings> sebsebseb: you advertised that there are lot of other distro's other than ubuntu etc...
[03:06] <sebsebseb> Lordofkings: I answered you're question I thought
[03:06] <Lordofkings> sebsebseb: no I am not
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Lordofkings: I answered you're question I thought (which I might have misunderstood)  by mentioning some newbie friendly Linux distros,  and giving you the distro watch site.
[03:07] <deltaray2> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[03:07] <Lordofkings> sebsebseb: fine.
[03:07] <coachj> anyone know how i can watch the NFL draft using ubuntu at this link http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/live/popup
[03:08] <meoblast> hi
[03:08] <Lynn^_^> my bios needs to be updated and I was thinking of installing Vista to update the bios, but from the liveCD, I can't seem to create a new partition.  Would anyone know a way around this?
[03:08] <jihedamine> Hi, is it possible to theme only progressbars in treeview please?
[03:08] <meoblast> does Ubuntu 9.10 have Xorg 7.5?
[03:08] <jrib> coachj: seems to just use flash
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Lordofkings: also there are some pretty good recnet aritcles/blog enteries,  about people who think Linux is Ubuntu, and don't know  that other distros exist,  but this is off topic, altough I don't mind giving anyone interested links in pm.
[03:09] <coachj> jrid: wont play for me
[03:09] <jrib> coachj: install flash (adobe's)
[03:09] <coachj> jrib: wont play for me
[03:09] <coachj> trying
[03:10] <ZykoticK9> !info xorg | meoblast
[03:10] <ZykoticK9> meoblast, Lucid uses 7.5
[03:10] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, none of the folders they refer to exists this is nuts i never seen anything like it and its not like i change cards everytime i boot
[03:11] <tuner> hey guize i need some help
[03:11] <meoblast> now to problem is booting my 10.04 system to download and burn 9.1
[03:11] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:Buenas noches
[03:11] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:No entiendo su idioma
[03:11] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:¬¬
[03:11] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:My name is gonzalo
[03:11] <ZykoticK9> []ScreeaM[], please stop that
[03:11] <gameware> my internet was working wireless and not its not how can i get it to work again
[03:12] <gameware> it shows my router
[03:12] <[]ScreeaM[]> [ZykoticK9] --------->dice:nose lo que me decis
[03:12] <LinuxNoob953> I have a wireless card that I need to install but I don't know how to do that. Does anyone understand NDISwrapper?
[03:12] <tuner> my line-in is inputing sound but not out puttign sound
[03:13] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:Mmm
[03:13] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:Un solo operador
[03:13] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:Para tanta gente
[03:13] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice::o
[03:13] <hiexpo> ban him
[03:13] <ZykoticK9> !es | []ScreeaM[]
[03:13] <[]ScreeaM[]> [ubottu] --------->dice:gracias
[03:14] <[]ScreeaM[]> [ubottu] --------->dice:vs sos español?
[03:14] <jrib> []ScreeaM[]: #ubuntu-es for spanish.  English only here please
[03:14] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:Sisi
[03:14] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:Lo se
[03:14] <LinuxNoob953> Can I please have help with a linux issue?
[03:14] <jrib> LinuxNoob953: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[03:15] <LinuxNoob953> I have a wireless card that I need to install but I don't know how to do that. Does anyone understand NDISwrapper?
[03:15] <gameware> wireless working other day not no wireless have to use eth0 and want to use wireless please help
[03:15] <enjoytheday> if I want to boot the boot image via network, would my network card should support?
[03:16] <genii> enjoytheday: PXE booting
[03:16] <TuxOtaku> enjoytheday, the card needs to support PXE
[03:16] <[]ScreeaM[]> --------->dice:Que paso?
[03:16] <ZykoticK9> gameware, have you check System / Admin / Hardware Drivers?  Have you plugged in ethernet and done all updates?
[03:16] <enjoytheday> in order use pxe booting, is my network card should support?
[03:16] <ZykoticK9> []ScreeaM[], /join #ubuntu-es
[03:17] <gameware> all it shows in hardware is nvidia drivers didnt do any updates but was working other day
[03:18] <hiexpo> cant get no help here i am going back to mint it worked
[03:18] <ZykoticK9> gameware, if you click on the network icon does it allow you to enable wireless?
[03:18] <LinuxNoob953> how do I install a NETgear wg311v2 wireless card in ubuntu 9.10?
[03:18] <gameware> it is enabled
[03:18] <gameware> just cant connect wirelessly
[03:19] <ray-irc> hi
[03:20] <crypt-0> what causes pulseaudio to get choppy?
[03:20] <Guest58315> How do I find out where the stage1 boot file is located? I had to reinstal win7 and it removed Grub so I need to figure out how to reinstall it
[03:20] <ray-irc> I just install ubuntu 9.04 desktop and then updated it to 9.10 but it will not boot now. It shows grub text then the screen goes blank and the LCD monitor power stays green so blank video must be going to it. I can press ESC and any other text boot does the same. Any one know how to fix this so it will boot?
[03:21] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | Guest58315
[03:21] <gameware> what is the next step if it is enabled on the wireless icon but still wont connect
[03:22] <LekeFly> */* * * * *    php /<path-to-your-installation/cron.php  < What should that be? /public_html/ ?
[03:22] <LekeFly> Should the php part be there?
[03:22] <Guest58315> sebsebseb, i dont think i had grub2
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Guest58315: Which version of Ubuntu?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> !grub | Guest58315
[03:22] <Guest58315> i think it was 9.10
[03:22] <Guest58315> thanks
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Guest58315: if you upgraded from 9.04
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Guest58315: to 9.10, well yes you probably got Grub
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Guest58315: if it's a clean install of 9.10 then yep Grub 2
[03:23] <LinuxNoob953> how do i install a netgear wg311v2 wireless card in ubuntu 9.10?
[03:23] <ray-irc> I installed in on a WD green hard drive that had HD TiVo on it. Just did it over the hole drive.
[03:23] <ray-irc> It's a 160GB drive.
[03:24] <mdel> hey... I installed wicd to try and make my wireless card stop losing signal
[03:24] <mdel> it did not work, so I uninstalled it, but now I cannot get even an ethernet connection
[03:24] <mdel> what app do I need to control my ethernet network settings?
[03:25] <mdel> i think the wicd installer uninstalled something I need :(
[03:25] <ray-irc> at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 it says to type in a terminal. But I can't even boot it!
[03:25] <LinuxNoob953> how do i install a netgear wg311v2 wireless card in ubuntu 9.10?
[03:25] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: new dirvers seems to help a lot, thanks! i wonder if i could have just reinstalled the old ones
[03:25] <lenush> hello everyone
[03:26] <gameware> i can see my router but can connect to it when i load firefox it says no network connection
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: the nvidia vpau is a great pp afor nvidia
[03:26] <mdel> i have no idea how to enable my ethernet!
[03:26] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip:  i just downloaded from the website
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: you may just have a later build of the same driver veriosn
[03:26] <mdel> i need to get a connection to download things
[03:26] <Guest58315> sebsebseb, thanks i think i got it :D
[03:26] <LinuxNoob953> how do i install a netgear wg311v2 wireless card in ubuntu 9.10?
[03:27] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: no, i got 195.36.15
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: cool, yuo have the latest driver too :)
[03:28] <LinuxNoob953> how do i install a netgear wg311v2 wireless card in ubuntu 9.10?
[03:29] <DanDare> To install a new webcam on Ubuntu what's the best? Plug the cam and boot, or boot first and plug the cam later ?
[03:29] <nsadmin> mdel: you seem to have a connection right now...
[03:29] <Tophu> anyone here savvy enough to assist me with this walkthough for getting my touchscreen working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1252492&highlight=10.04+touchscreen
[03:30] <mdel> nsadmin: yeah since im on another computer....
[03:30] <nsadmin> DanDare, possibly the best is to follow what the instructions say
[03:30] <mdel> nsadmin: ok i enabled my eth0
[03:30] <mdel> but it wont get an address
[03:30] <nsadmin> why?
[03:31] <DanDare> nsadmin, sure... wich instructions? Webcam one? It dont have an instruction for linux
[03:31] <mdel> nsadmin: not sure
[03:31] <nsadmin> it'
[03:31] <LinuxNoob953> how do i install a netgear wg311v2 wireless card in ubuntu 9.10?
[03:31] <nsadmin> is called eth0?
[03:31] <ZykoticK9> DanDare, just plug it in - before/after boot doesn't matter.  Install cheese if you don't have it already to test with
[03:31] <mdel> yes
[03:31] <mdel> no ipv4 address
[03:31] <nsadmin> and so when you ifconfig eth0 you get a paragraph?
[03:31] <DanDare> nice, thanks ZykoticK9
[03:32] <mdel> nsadmin: eth0 and lo yes
[03:32] <mdel> still, no dhcp
[03:32] <IrishKnight> Chello!
[03:32] <IrishKnight> :P
[03:32] <mdel> is there a command to get an address?
[03:32] <LinuxNoob953> how do i install a netgear wg311v2 wireless card in ubuntu 9.10?
[03:32] <IrishKnight> yes there is
[03:32] <IrishKnight> ./show IP (name)
[03:32] <ZykoticK9> mdel, "sudo dhclient eth0"
[03:32] <nsadmin> ok, as root, ifdown eth0 and then edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:32] <DanDare> Oh i was thinking that Ubuntu had Zonealarm in the default package lists :(
[03:32] <ray-irc> Well looks like no one can help here bye
[03:32] <ray-irc> \exit
[03:33] <ray-irc> \end
[03:33] <ray-irc> \quit
[03:33] <FloodBot2> ray-irc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:33] <Ken8521> DanDare, why?
[03:33] <mdel> lol
[03:33] <nsadmin> ray-irc: can't even get out :)
[03:33] <ray-irc> \out
[03:33] <mdel> LOL
[03:33] <DanDare> Ken8521,  I type 'zonealarm' on synaptic's search box and get nothing
[03:33] <mdel> ZykoticK9: THANKS
[03:33] <ZykoticK9> DanDare, no zonealarm for ubuntu
[03:33] <DanDare> someone told me ubuntu cames with tha package in the oficial repos
[03:34] <Ken8521> DanDare, i mena, what gave you the idea it had zone alarm out of the box?
[03:34] <Tophu> they lied
[03:34] <mdel> ok so my next question...
[03:34] <DanDare> yeah, they lied
[03:34] <mdel> i just bought a DLInk wireless adapter
[03:34] <nsadmin> check packages.ubuntu.com and check for yourself
[03:34] <mdel> i put it in... how do I scan for new hardware?
[03:34] <Tophu> anyone here savvy enough to assist me with this walkthough for getting my touchscreen working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1252492&highlight=10.04+touchscreen
[03:34] <Ken8521> !iptables | DanDare
[03:34] <DanDare> no need... synaptic told me already
[03:34] <ZykoticK9> mdel, System / Admin / Hardware Drivers and see if it's listed
[03:34] <mdel> ZykoticK9: its not
[03:35] <DanDare> what? i asked about iptables? :p
[03:35] <ZykoticK9> mdel, is your system up-to-date?
[03:35] <DanDare> hey wait, thanks Ken8521 ... you reminded me
[03:35] <mdel> ZykoticK9: probly not
[03:35] <nsadmin> you did?! what a coincidence that he told you about them!
[03:35] <DanDare> im making a confusion
[03:35] <ZykoticK9> mdel, you might want to update - then check Hardware Drivers again
[03:35] <mdel> ZykoticK9: ill update then see if it should up
[03:35] <DanDare> it's zoneminder what im looking for... thanks
[03:35] <mdel> yeah... thanks dude
[03:36] <DanDare> well, no zoneminder also... anyway, i think the .deb package just runs on Ubuntu
[03:36] <DanDare> without major issues...
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> LzrdKing: all better now?
[03:38] <DanDare> Oh well, ubuntu really cames with zoneminder by default.. .sweer
[03:38] <mdel> ZykoticK9: question... whats the default network manager called? i installed wicd and it removed it
[03:39] <ZykoticK9> mdel, nm-applet ?
[03:39] <mdel> yeahhhh thats it
[03:39] <mdel> hard to remember package names
[03:39] <mdel> thanks
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> mdel: network-manager-gnome will install what you need
[03:39] <mdel> thanks guys
[03:39] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, thanks - i was apt-cache serach for the install package
[03:40] <mdel> i work on servers all day... never have to worry about desktop-y stuffs :)
[03:40] <hiexpo> see i haved figured what is causeing the nick to change is the mac is changing so it writes a new interface and what is causeing the mac to change is it is set on a loopback
[03:41] <ubergamer> how can i connect my laptop to use wifi where it did few days ago now it wont connect to my router yet it shows the router in the network icon
[03:41] <DanDare> Ok, any nice, free, exciting action game i can download for Ubuntu ?
[03:42] <DanDare> Like Unreal Tournament
[03:42] <mdel> there is one
[03:42] <DanDare> suggestions ?
[03:42] <mdel> i forget what its called
[03:42] <Tophu> so anyone here own a touchscreen?
[03:42] <mdel> it starts with an N
[03:42] <mdel> i thgink
[03:42] <DanDare> or like Tuxracer
[03:42] <DanDare> must check if they still have AA for linux
[03:42] <mdel> OOOOO
[03:42] <mdel> i love that game
[03:43] <DanDare> yeah me too... im just to lazy for games nowadays
[03:43] <hoop> can someone help me with TeamSpeak 3
[03:43] <mdel> me to
[03:43] <mdel> i was realllly into AA for the longest time
[03:43] <mdel> like 5 years ago
[03:43] <ubergamer> how can i connect my laptop to use wifi where it did few days ago now it wont connect to my router yet it shows the router in the network icon any help please appreciated
[03:43] <DanDare> like me pal
[03:43] <DanDare> i dont play games anymore... but testing some in Ubuntu sounds about great
[03:43] <Tophu> whats the chanel for 10.04 discussion?
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> DanDare, nexius openarena
[03:44] <DanDare> cool, thanks
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> Tophu, #ubuntu+1
[03:44] <Tophu> !10.04
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> DanDare: alien arena, urban terror
[03:44] <DanDare> :D
[03:44] <Ken8521> DanDare, urban terror is another good one.. not in the repos, but oyou can download the package
[03:44] <DanDare> it's ok, very thanks
[03:44] <DanDare> will bookmark them all
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> DanDare: theres a beergarden script to download and install it for you, i'd use that (it also MD5s)
[03:45] <DanDare> like unreal tournament, just click and play
[03:45] <DanDare> that's good
[03:45] <hiexpo> how do i get in a directory to edit it
[03:45] <Ken8521> hiexpo, what directory?
[03:45] <hiexpo> gedit /etc/udev/rules.d
[03:45] <Ken8521> hiexpo, gksudo nautilus /path/to
[03:45] <hiexpo> kool thanx
[03:46] <DanDare> but have more interesting stuff to test now, like how virtualbox will work
[03:46] <candy_> how to install ubuntu from windows?? (dual boot)
[03:46] <Ken8521> hiexpo, well, if you need gedit, then its not a directory, its a file.
[03:46] <ZykoticK9> hiexpo, careful when using nautilus as root (it's not typically recommended)
[03:46] <Ken8521> hiexpo, so if you need to, subsitute gedit for nautilus
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> !wubi | candy_
[03:46] <hoop> HELP!.... need help with 10.4 and TeamSpeak... ts3client_runscript.sh opens in gedit how do i fix
[03:46] <Ken8521> ZykoticK9, i dont see a huge big deal, so long as you pay attention when you're doing it.. i've  never had a problem w/ it
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> hoop, reask in #ubuntu+1
[03:47] <hiexpo> Ken8521, i just pasted itforgot gedit was in front lol
[03:47] <wastrel> dude a permissions problem you're sending to ubuntu+1 ?
[03:47] <wastrel> hoop: right-click , edit properties, add execute permissions
[03:47] <Ken8521> hiexpo, ok...
[03:47] <candy_> ActionParsnip, i dont wanna install as an application of windows but wanna make dual boot
[03:47] <charles_> hey
[03:48] <dotnet45> hiya all - GRUB needs fixing after some partition changes - I'm following: "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows" - When I run [ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/441cb603-e374-4f9d-8967-e08e8b953452 /dev/sda] Output: [sudo: unable to execute /usr/sbin/grub-install: Input/output error] -- any suggestions greatly appreciated heh
[03:48] <ubergamer> how can i connect my laptop to use wifi where it did few days ago now it wont connect to my router yet it shows the router in the network icon
[03:49] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | candy_
[03:50] <uoppa> where can i find the latest, most up-to-date list of printers compatible with ubuntu?
[03:50] <candy_> sebsebseb, u didnt get me
[03:50] <maple1> let's smoke some buds
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | uoppa
[03:50] <sebsebseb> candy_:  Wubi uhmm
[03:50] <sebsebseb> candy_: well better to use real partitions really
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> uoppa: or: http://openprinting.org
[03:51] <ZykoticK9> candy_, to do a proper dual-boot, just boot from the LiveCD and start the install
[03:51] <candy_> sebsebseb, i wanna use real partition only but i could not install through cd/dvd its not reading
[03:51] <candy_> sebsebseb, its directly taking me to windows... no booting options shown
[03:51] <sebsebseb> !usb | candy_
[03:51] <Ken8521> candy_, how did you burn the disk?
[03:51] <dotnet45> dont go down the wubi road - it's not as easy as it looks to get it on a partition afterwards
[03:51] <candy_> Ken8521, I have original cd from ubuntu
[03:51] <candy_> sebsebseb, its not even taking from usb
[03:52] <Ken8521> candy_, i'm assuming thts one they mailed to you... are you sure the CD is first in your bios boot sequence?
[03:52] <Lady_Rayn> Hello
[03:52] <sebsebseb> candy_: no I mean you can maybe make a bootable Ubuntu USB, and install from that
[03:52] <sebsebseb> Lady_Rayn: hi
[03:52] <Lady_Rayn> Hello
[03:52] <Lady_Rayn> :)
[03:52] <candy_> Ken8521, I checked the bios setting but theres no cd optionn :( only first hard drive option is there
[03:52] <Ken8521> sebsebseb, assuming her pc will boot usb..
[03:52] <candy_> sebsebseb, I know that. i made bootable usb but still its not working
[03:52] <sebsebseb> candy_:  You may need to go into the bios of the computer and tell it to boot from CD
[03:52] <Ken8521> candy_, well that's the problem, and a very unusual one.. is your cd drive working?
[03:53] <sebsebseb> candy_: or go into the bios and tell it to boot from USB
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> dotnet45: its good as a try before you buy but I agree, and its pretty poor too as the fragmentation in NTFS affects its speed
[03:53] <candy_> Ken8521, yes
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> candy_: try pressing F11 at boot
[03:53] <candy_> sebsebseb, only booting from first hard drive option is there in bios
[03:53] <Ken8521> candy_, make/model of the PC?
[03:53] <ubergamer> how can i connect my laptop to use wifi where it did few days ago now it wont connect to my router yet it shows the router in the network icon
[03:53] <sebsebseb> candy_: make the CD or USB whatever you want to boot form, the first boot device, if you can
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> ubergamer: if you log on as a different user, can you?
[03:54] <Ken8521> sebsebseb, are you paying attention at all to what she's saying or just talking?
[03:54] <candy_> sebsebseb, i cannot.. only first hard drive option is there to boot
[03:54] <ubergamer> from my laptop
[03:54] <Ken8521> candy_, make/model of the pc
[03:54] <candy_> Ken8521, dont remember... frens pc. will check and come back
[03:54] <ubergamer> actionparsnip: from my laptop?
[03:55] <candy_> Ken8521, but not now.. tell me some alternatives if any is there
[03:55] <blocket> if I right click on a folder in nautilus and select to share it with no user account required, should that be sufficient to browse from a windows machine?
[03:55] <Ken8521> candy_, well i would go through the bios closer, there has to be a boot sequence option.
[03:55] <Ken8521> candy_, if you don't want to wubi install, and you can't change the boot sequence, there is no alternative
[03:55] <candy_> Ken8521, I spent more that a hour in bios.. couldnot get.. yet i ll do that agian
[03:55] <dotnet45> anyone ever come across "/usr/sbin/grub-install: Input/output error" when attempting to fix grub from a livecd?
[03:55] <sebsebseb> candy_: There is another way Ubuntu can be tried, well if the hardware can handle it, e.g. enough RAM
[03:55] <charles__> candy
[03:56] <candy_> Ken8521, from wubi can i install it in separate partition?
[03:56] <Ken8521> candy_, sort of, it goes to a virtual drive
[03:56] <candy_> sebsebseb, ram  is jut 512 mb
[03:56] <sebsebseb> candy_: there is a program that can convert to a real partition, but it seems someone was saying that isn't easy
[03:56] <ubergamer> actionparsnip: do you want me to log on from my laptop via eth0
[03:56] <charles__> candy find the fkey to give boot options on start up .... might be f8 or f12
[03:56] <sebsebseb> candy_: ok  this other thing I was thinking of would probably work, but be a bit slow
[03:56] <candy_> sebsebseb, whats that, tell me.. will give a try
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> ubergamer: no, log onto the pc as a different user to see if the issue is profile based
[03:57] <candy_> Ken8521, will that be as fast as real one
[03:57] <candy_> sebsebseb, what?
[03:57] <ubergamer>  ActionParsnip:stand by
[03:57] <sebsebseb> candy_: also I really do mean "try"  when I suggest doing Ubuntu inside Windows in a virtual machine.  Realy useauly it should be Windows inside Ubuntu, not the other way round.
[03:57] <Ken8521> candy_, i'm personally not a fan of wubi, but i dont see any reason it would be any slower/faster than a normal install.. but I belive it is far more problematic.. i would not do it
[03:58] <candy_> Ken8521, I am afraid so...
[03:58] <Ken8521> candy_, you have to be missing something on the boot sequence... like others said, maybe you need to hit f12 or something like that, to call up the boot order
[03:58] <Ken8521> candy_, can really only discover that though, w/ the make/model fo the pc
[03:59] <candy_> Ken8521, I tried all.. its not coming
[03:59] <sebsebseb> candy_: Wubi it seems can only read the Windows files, not write to them.  Also it may be a tiny bit slower than a proper partitioned install, but other than that, when it works, I guess it's ok really
[03:59] <Ken8521> candy_, delete or esc maybe
[03:59] <charles__> candy .... you can put the hard drive into a computer that will boot from cd .... install ubuntu ... and then put the drive back in first machine
[03:59] <candy_> Ken8521, will check that..wait a sec i ll ask the model of pc.. just a sec
[03:59] <ubergamer>  ActionParsnip: not profile based does same thing
[03:59] <sebsebseb> !install | candy_
[03:59] <DanDare> This is weird... Was browsing internet using Firefox and mouse stopped responding the left click.
[04:00] <Ken8521> DanDare, 10.04?
[04:00] <DanDare> did a 'killall gnome-session' and everything backs to normal
[04:00] <DanDare> it's some X issue im having ?
[04:00] <Ken8521> DanDare, 10.04?
[04:00] <DanDare> maybe because im using a Microsoft mouse? (but not kidding now a microsoft mouse may have the right driver loaded or something)
[04:01] <ryan_> i only get an 8 bt display
[04:01] <sebsebseb> DanDare: Micrsooft hardware is useaully alright I guess, unlike the software
[04:01] <mdel> when 10.04 is released, how do I upgrade?
[04:01] <DanDare> yeah, this mouse is OK
[04:01] <Ken8521> !upgrade | mdel
[04:01] <ubergamer>  ActionParsnip: what is next step if its not profile based
[04:02] <sebsebseb> mdel: the program you install security updates from, will probably tell you at the bottom, that a new release is available
[04:02] <mdel> Ken8521: i guess a better question is.... is it like windows, where a fresh install is better?
[04:02] <sebsebseb> mdel: that depends on the version of Ubuntu you currently have installed, to some extent
[04:02] <Ken8521> mdel, personally i think so.. some may beg to differ
[04:02] <mdel> 9.10
[04:02] <sebsebseb> mdel: ok and was 9.10 a clean install?
[04:02] <mdel> yes
[04:03] <sebsebseb> mdel: ok then that should be fine upgrading it to 10.04
[04:03] <mdel> word
[04:03] <mdel> i wish i would have put my home directory on a separate partition
[04:03] <sebsebseb> mdel: however,  I woudn't bother untill like 1st May, since  download servers will be packed to begin with
[04:03] <mdel> then it would be easy to fresh install
[04:03] <sebsebseb> mdel: and so rather slow
[04:03] <ZykoticK9> mdel, stress the *should* be fine
[04:04] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: it's probably not like 9.04 to 9.10
[04:04] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: which messed up for a lot of people
[04:04] <mdel> also, I have my web development stack set up the way I want... i hope everything is ok after upgrading
[04:04] <wastrel> i just upgraded it was slow but worked fine
[04:04] <sebsebseb> mdel:  ZykoticK9  normalley upgrades go fine for like everyone, but 9.04 to 9.10 was an exception for quite a lot of people
[04:04] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, agreed - but am seeing *some* issues with upgrades in #ubuntu+1
[04:04] <mdel> is 10.04 out now?
[04:04] <sebsebseb> mdel: no
[04:04] <sebsebseb> mdel: April 29th
[04:04] <mdel> ok thats what i thought
[04:05] <sebsebseb> mdel: except for development versions, but only more expereinced users should be doing these, really
[04:05] <mdel> is there a short list of "this is why you definitely want 10.04"
[04:05] <dotnet45> wow I hate grub...
[04:05] <mdel> or is it just the usual stuff
[04:05] <mdel> new packages available in the repos and new default versions, etc
[04:06] <sebsebseb> mdel: social networking features,  for Facebook and Twitter and such built in,  new themes and backgrounds,  Ubuntu One Music Store for those that want to buy music, and that's about it,  oh and #ubuntu+1 is really the place to be asking the 10.04 questions
[04:06] <ZykoticK9> mdel, an article overing RC http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/ubuntu-1004-lts-lucid-lynx-release.html
[04:06] <sebsebseb> mdel: ah yes and better boot up
[04:06] <ZykoticK9> s/overing/covering
[04:06] <mdel> awesome
[04:06] <mdel> thanks guys
[04:06] <ZykoticK9> mdel, MUCH better boot up
[04:07] <mdel> im thrilled with the switch... ive never used linux on the desktop, but after finding several php-cli bugs in windows i made the switch
[04:07] <mdel> and its awesome
[04:07] <mdel> im a mac guy, but at work we have dell workstations
[04:07] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, mdel posted a moment ago in +1 "I am upgrading from 9.10 to the RC release and dpkg quites with a broken pipe on : gir1.0-clutter-1.0_1.2.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb"
[04:07] <mdel> ????
[04:07] <mdel> no i didnt
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> mdel: newer versions of kernel and modules will support newer hardware nicer
[04:07] <ZykoticK9> mdel, not you - just showing there are *some* issues with upgrades
[04:07] <mdel> ah ok
[04:08] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: uhmm
[04:08] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: that's development versions
[04:08] <sebsebseb> mdel: that's development version
[04:08] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, true!
[04:08] <mdel> yeah i know
[04:08] <sebsebseb> these kind of issues will probably be fixed
[04:08] <sebsebseb> by the final
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> mdel: 10.04 is definately cheaper than mac, mind you so is gold
[04:08] <sebsebseb> most/all of them anyway
[04:08] <mdel> ActionParsnip: not when you buy used :)
[04:09] <mdel> i love my macbook pro, and OS X
[04:09] <sebsebseb> mdel: 10.04 is also a bit more Mac OS X like by default
[04:09] <mdel> but at work, ubuntu is a dream over vista
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> mdel: true, like it
[04:09] <mdel> sebsebseb: yeah isnt there a new theme or something
[04:09] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, actually after installing RC and doing the updates available today it's no longer "development" according to "lsb_release -a" (but it still is!)
[04:09] <sebsebseb> two new themes
[04:10] <mdel> ahh that pink/purple one
[04:10] <sebsebseb> mdel: shame Firefox looks to black for my likeing, in the default theme, but other then that, nice theme
[04:10] <mdel> not really a fan... i like my wild-shine :)
[04:10] <sebsebseb> mdel: except for how I am not that keen on the new window borders.
[04:11] <mdel> yeah me neither
[04:11] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9:  mdel Really we should be talking in #ubuntu+1  ,but no one telling us off
[04:11] <mdel> gonna stick with wild-shine
[04:11] <kbp> does anyone know what command to know whether the ram is single or dual channel?
[04:11] <hiexpo> i just ate a piece of bhut jolokia pepper holy smokes
[04:11] <Ken8521> sebsebseb, i found removing the bookmark toolbar(assuming you don't use it), helped w/ making it look "to black"
[04:11] <mdel> sebsebseb: sorry, lets move on
[04:11] <sebsebseb> mdel: wild-shine ?
[04:11] <mdel> its a great theme
[04:11] <mdel> there are ppa sources for the whole line of themes... not sure who they are from
[04:11] <sebsebseb> mdel: from?
[04:11] <Ken8521> sebsebseb, its in a theme repository
[04:12] <wastrel> i haven't changed my theme from the one i had in koala
[04:12] <mdel> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/9-great-gnome-themes-with-ubuntu.html
[04:12] <sebsebseb> which one or whatever link?  altough on the subject of getting stuff from outside the repo
[04:12] <sebsebseb> got to be a bit careful with that
[04:12] <IdleOne> Not trying to tell you guys off or anything but can you move to #ubuntu+1
[04:12] <mdel> its a popular theme pack/repo
[04:12] <mdel> lol
[04:12] <IdleOne> thanks :)
[04:12] <sebsebseb> malware can exist for Desktop Linux to, in fact there was  was meant to be a screen saver on Gnome look a few months ago,  which turned out to be something a bit nasty
[04:12] <Ken8521> sebsebseb, i've used the bisigi theme plenty of times, it seems solid.
[04:12] <mdel> yeahhh bisigi
[04:13] <mdel> thats it
[04:13] <Ken8521> although i always have added it from the homepage
[04:13] <mdel> i like wild-shine the best
[04:13] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: I was waiting for something like that
[04:13] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: well kind of
[04:13] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: well you knew it would happen :)
[04:14] <hiexpo> wow that was hot
[04:14] <sebsebseb> mdel: ok thanks for link
[04:14] <DanDare> what's the nice app in ubuntu to read sensor reading and CPU usage etc ?
[04:14] <mdel> sebsebseb: it not the official, but it links to the official repo
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> DanDare: xsensor
[04:14] <DanDare> allright, thanks
[04:15] <mdel> i hope ubuntu detects this wirreless card
[04:15] <ZykoticK9> DanDare, there is an applet for gnome - Add to Panel , Hardware Sensor Monitor as well
[04:16] <mdel> at work, i think my dell has a bad sata controller
[04:16] <mdel> my sata drive keeps resetting itself, freezing the whole OS
[04:16] <mdel> i cant pinpoint if its hardware or drivers
[04:17] <DanDare> xsensors just opens to me a blank window without any option to click
[04:17] <DanDare> no drivers installed? (im on a laptop)
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> mdel: update bios may help
[04:20] <mdel> yeah true
[04:20] <mdel> i have another sata controller i can pop in
[04:20] <mdel> windows doesnt take  kindly to that
[04:20] <mdel> but i think ubuntu should be ok
[04:21] <boolcrap> HI
[04:21] <boolcrap> ;(
[04:21] <boolcrap> im super frustrated
[04:21] <boolcrap> trying to get my resolution above 800x600
[04:21] <boolcrap> i tried all the crap in the forums with no luk
[04:21] <boolcrap> luck
[04:21] <FloodBot2> boolcrap: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: can you give the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[04:21] <ZykoticK9> boolcrap, what graphics card?
[04:22] <gekken1> and which version of Ubuntu?
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: and can you stop hammering enter, its scrolling the channel like crazy, if you type like this its much better for everyone
[04:22] <boolcrap> 02:08.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PP/PRO TMDS [Xpert 128]
[04:22] <nsadmin> show that same thing, but lspci -nn
[04:23] <boolcrap> http://pastebin.com/0pcj4rGQ
[04:23] <boolcrap> how do i get ubuntu version i think its 9.04
[04:24] <ZykoticK9> boolcrap, "lsb_release -a"
[04:24] <boolcrap> 9.10
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: i think you need to form a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:24] <boolcrap> yeah i tried
[04:24] <stones_> guys
[04:24] <boolcrap> erm
[04:24] <stones_> im trying to install ubuntu
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: this gives some good pointers: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/141385-problems-ati-rage-128-pro-ultra-tf.html
[04:24] <stones_> but it keeps dropping into busy shell
[04:24] <stones_> am i doing something wrong here?
[04:24] <stones_> never used ubuntu before...
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: your card is suported by the r128 driver
[04:25] <gekken1> ok, have you gone to system > administration > hardware drivers and attempted to install them?
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> stones_: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded? did you check the cd for defects?
[04:25] <gekken1> I know it is a silly question, but you can never overlook the obvious
[04:25] <stones_> i used a usb creater
[04:25] <nsadmin> [1002:5050] is 'Rage 128 PP/PRO TMDS [Xpert 128]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel modules 'aty128fb', 'ati-agp'
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> stones_: you still need to md5 test the iso
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> stones_: or img file
[04:26] <stones_> ok, what woud cause that anyhow?
[04:26]  * scatological shit
[04:26] <IdleOne> !language | scatological
[04:26]  * scatological turd
[04:27] <osirisx11> hi all
[04:27] <DanDare> Hello. I want to change boot option, looking for menu.lst on /boot/grub cant find any... whats the correct file on Ubuntu ?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> stones_: you clearly havent checked the file you have used so you have no way of knowing the data you have used to create the install media was complete or correct
[04:27] <osirisx11> i just finished downloading beta2 and i see the rc is out. if i update as soon as i install the beta2 will it be just as good as installing the rc?
[04:28] <h00k> orangejuice: Lucid discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> osirisx11: you will update seemlessly to the rc and beyond
[04:28] <h00k> osirisx11: rather
[04:28] <h00k> orangejuice: sorry for the hilight
[04:28] <GSF1200S> is the "Install a Command Line System" still available on alternate cd's?
[04:28] <osirisx11> oh thanks h00k and ActionParsnip
[04:29] <boolcrap> k copied and pasted into /etc/X11/xconf.org
[04:29] <boolcrap> rebooting
[04:29] <helo_> what ever happened to the simplicity of downloading a .img for x86, and dd'ing it to a thumb drive?
[04:29] <dotnet41> Can anyone here confirm that the following will NOT make changes to your existing install: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652 (apparently you run the cd installer and manually partition without formatting and then you get the option of reinstalling grub)
[04:29] <zordo> i'm having some weird wireless connection problems with a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 nbr on my eeepc1000h. It works for about 20mins and then the connection breaks and it keeps asking for wpa-key. It takes about ten tries to get a succesful connection. I'm guessing it's a driver issue but the only useful thing i can find by googling is the ralink package from their site, and i'm not sure wether i should even try installing it
[04:29] <helo_> it appears that .img are only provided for obscure platforms... why?
[04:29] <GSF1200S> noone knows?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: you can pastebin the file if you wish
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: so we can check its ok
[04:29] <dotnet41> It would really suck if those directions are outdated and the installer actually starts installing heh
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S: you waited all of 60 seconds, have patience my child
[04:30] <helo_> most people who have a netbook (with no optical drive) won't be able to install ubuntu... wth
[04:30] <DanDare> What's wrong? Im on the help page "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Modifying%20boot%20options%20in%20GRUB" it says i can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but my system dont have this file. Any clue ?
[04:30] <zordo> unetbootin works fine
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> helo_: netbooks can boot USB, use the liveCD or another ubuntu system to create the botable usb
[04:31] <GSF1200S> apologies.. i figured this would be a quick answer considering.. wasnt asking about converting to debian sid ;)
[04:31] <milamizan> hai
[04:31] <IdleOne> !grub2 | DanDare
[04:31] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - do u know a fix for everytime i reboot my eth mac changes in which it changes the nic up by one each time
[04:31] <DanDare> ok, thanks
[04:31] <milamizan> i have a problem to install phpmyadmin manually
[04:31] <eporim> hi all
[04:31] <IdleOne> hiexpo: I don't sorry
[04:32] <hiexpo> ok
[04:32] <all> hi
[04:32] <charles__> helo I do it all the time .... use a usb cdrom drive
[04:32] <milamizan> it says "cannot load mcrypt extension check your php configuration"
[04:32] <milamizan> can anyone help me
[04:32] <boolcrap> didnt work. i had to remove the xconf file from root shell
[04:32] <helo_> ActionParsnip: you have to use a livecd (hello??? no optical drive!) or a ubuntu-only utility (hello??? no ubuntu yet!) to do this?
[04:33] <milamizan> :)
[04:33] <win2lin> hello, i want know where we find the grub configuration file in ubuntu 9.10
[04:33] <helo_> nothing personal, i'm just confused why the change was made
[04:33] <eporim> i have a question: i changed my computer and i wanted to switch just the hd, but i cannot do directly because the old pc was amd64 while the new one is i686, is it possible to switch arch of an installed ubuntu?
[04:33] <helo_> it was *so* simple previously, and now it is pretty much impossible without a optical drive
[04:33] <zenlunatic> win2lin, man 5 grub
[04:33] <Guest74259> maybe they have stock in optical drives :D
[04:33] <zenlunatic> win2lin, /boot/menu.lst
[04:33] <milamizan> helo_: you can use UFD for live CD
[04:34] <win2lin> thnx
[04:34] <milamizan> ehm
[04:34] <helo_> ubottu: ufd?
[04:34] <dotnet41> Will proceeding to Step 7/7 in the installer cause anything to start installing?
[04:34] <charles__> win3lin 9.10 does not use the menu.lst
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> win2lin, /boot/menu is incorrect!  /etc/default/grub is the file you want
[04:35] <milamizan> can anyone help me to fix this problem
[04:35] <win2lin> ok
[04:35] <zenlunatic> win2lin, oh wait grub2 is different
[04:35] <win2lin> ok
[04:35] <helo_> ok, ufd is too common of an acronym
[04:35] <zenlunatic> win2lin, forgot it was on grub2
[04:35] <win2lin> yes
[04:35] <boolcrap> i have another video card
[04:35] <win2lin> so where i find the conf
[04:35] <boolcrap> should i just try that one
[04:36] <win2lin> bcoz i am installed 2 os there
[04:36] <charles__> win3lin do sudo update-grub in terminal
[04:36] <milamizan> UFD -> Usb Flash Drive
[04:36] <collier_s> hi, running Ubuntu 8.04.2, should i be able to upgrade with the "update manager"?
[04:36] <helo_> why are only dove and ims51 .img files available? why not provide the most popular nebook hardware a cake .img as well?
[04:36] <zenlunatic> win2lin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[04:36] <win2lin> and want to edit os name displays in grub boot menu
[04:36] <Helsinkiii> emegency
[04:36] <ZykoticK9> collier_s, in 7 (almost 6) days you can directly upgrade to 10.04
[04:36] <Helsinkiii> i just tried installing KDE on ubuntu 9.1
[04:37] <charles__> win3lin do sudo update-grub in terminal and it will find all boot partitions and set them up
[04:37] <Helsinkiii> at the new login, it wont let me in
[04:37] <Clorox> D:
[04:37] <sorianocarlos> hola, primera vez probando IRC :S
[04:37] <DanDare> this is crazy
[04:37] <Helsinkiii> im not even sure what my username is cuz ubuntu always saved mine at login
[04:37] <zenlunatic> win2lin, i have yet to tackle grub2 as no production machines are on it yet
[04:37] <collier_s> ZykoticK9, right, but shouldn't i see a option to go to 9.x now?
[04:37] <DanDare> grub2 is just much more complicated to deal with
[04:37] <milamizan> "cannot load mcrypt extension check your php configuration"
[04:37] <milamizan> "cannot load mcrypt extension check your php configuration"
[04:37] <milamizan> "cannot load mcrypt extension check your php configuration"
[04:37] <FloodBot2> milamizan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> collier_s, no - you're on an LTS release, which by default will only update to another LTS release
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Helsinkiii: run: whoami   in a terminal
[04:38] <collier_s> ZykoticK9, i see.  thx
[04:38] <win2lin> is there any gui ubuntu pakage for editing grub2 conf
[04:38] <Helsinkiii> how do i get to terminal
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> collier_s, there is a way to manually upgrade but you have to got to 9.04 then 9.10 then 10.04
[04:38] <charles__> win3lin install startupmanager
[04:38] <collier_s> ZykoticK9, have a link please?
[04:39] <Helsinkiii> ActionParsnip:how?
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> collier_s, sorry don't have one (would recommend it actually)
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> s/would/wouldn't
[04:39] <win2lin> i installed startupmanager but there no option for editing os display text
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> Helsinkiii: press alt+f2   type: gnome-terminal   press enter   use the command in the terminal
[04:39] <charles__> win2lin install startupmanager
[04:39] <britany_okla> what is some software that can take avi or mp4 and convert it to like where i can watch it on a dvd player
[04:39] <collier_s> ZykoticK9, ok, it's a new install and i'm not concerned about any data or anything.  thanks for helping
[04:39] <DanDare> there's any graphical interface for grub2 in Ubuntu ?
[04:39] <win2lin> i installed startupmanager but there is no option for editing os display text
[04:40] <charles__> DanDare ..... it is called startupmanager
[04:40] <DanDare> thanks charles__
[04:40] <dotnet41> what does the 9.1 installer do if you don't choose to format any of the required partitions (that already have ubuntu installed on them) ?
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> dotnet41: it will install the binarys over the top but the old configs may cause issues. i wouldnt recommend it
[04:41] <dotnet41> ActionParsnip: bleh - thanks for the info - was hoping for a shortcut to repair my grub installation
[04:41] <DanDare> startupmanager description says "Grub and Splash screen configuration". But what Ubuntu installed for me was grub2... I can still use this app to configure boot ?
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> dotnet41: boot to liveCD and reinstall grub
[04:42] <charles__> DanDare yes it works on grub2
[04:42] <win2lin> i installed startupmanager but there no option for editing os display text
[04:42] <DanDare> thanks again
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> dotnet41: you can also mount the internal drives and m odify the grub files and / or chroot to run: sudo update-grub]
[04:43] <bsmntbombdood> i'm running the ubuntu live cd right now
[04:43] <charles__> win2lin .... yes it does only minor options just now
[04:43] <bsmntbombdood> is there a way to install from a file rather than cdrom?
[04:43] <DanDare> win2lin,  you can do it in command line... but is much more complex than for grub the old version
[04:43] <charles__> win2lin .... you can change the boot order
[04:43] <nameless> hi to all of you
[04:44] <win2lin> ok so how can i edit my os display text in grub boot menu.any options??
[04:44] <britany_okla> can someone msg me new to ubuntu wanting to work with avi files
[04:44] <dotnet41> ActionParsnip: logged on w/ the livecd I'm not able to run any of the grub commands (w/ ubuntu mounted) following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:44] <DanDare> win2lin, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[04:44] <dd2> I can't get Microsoft Office 2007 to install using crossover. Any suggestions?
[04:45] <nameless> hi what program will i need to convert one video/music format to another pls help me.
[04:45] <stones_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1165440&page=2
[04:45] <stones_> Is there a fix for this yet other than having to pull your USB in and out?
[04:45] <ramindia> how can scan channels in Ubuntu using WINTV Haupauge DVB card...i see driver is loaded but iam not able to scan channels..iam located in india
[04:45] <nameless> hi what program will i need to convert one video/music format to another pls help me.
[04:45] <DanDare> nameless, ffmpeg
[04:45] <nameless> ok i will try that
[04:45] <charles__> win2lin .... sudo gedit /etc/default/grub .... but I don't what to edit
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> nameless, winff is a gui frontent for ffmpeg -- soundconvert for audio stuff
[04:45] <DanDare> nameless, but this is command line, you should be able to find GUI interfaces for it tought
[04:46] <win2lin> :)
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> dd2: contact the crossover guys, you have paid for supoprt with them
[04:46] <zordo>  -- bsmntbombdood>    if you have a usb stick and your motherboard supports booting from usb, u should be able to install from there, if that was what u ment by "from a file"?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> nameless: mencoder, ffmpeg, handbrake are all good
[04:46] <dd2> It's the trial version.
[04:46] <nameless> ok tnx to all of you
[04:46] <bsmntbombdood> zordo, no
[04:46] <DanDare> ffmpeg is just amazing
[04:47] <DanDare> despite i dont know how it's compiled in Ubuntu
[04:47] <bsmntbombdood> from a file on the hdd
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> dd2: http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/group/?app_parent=1911;
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> dd2: only a bronze rating dude
[04:48] <stones_> ?
[04:48] <stones_> help
[04:48] <stones_> ?
[04:48] <stones_> ...
[04:48] <FloodBot2> stones_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <dd2> Thanks for your help
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> dd2: if you can get noe with sp2 already bundled in you will get a silver performance, you could have easily found that page i just gave
[04:49] <dotnet41> grub-install ... = grub-setup: error: Cannot read `grub/core.img` correctly - any suggestions?
[04:50] <DanDare> This is crazy, it's second time left mouse button stopped working. Im back again after 'killall gnome-session'
[04:50] <DanDare> Someone have any suggestion what it can be? Some X configuration?
[04:50] <DanDare> something i can try to fix this ?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> DanDare: you running compiz? (desktop effects)
[04:51] <dotnet41> how hard would it be to completely reinstall grub2 from a livecd? (even possible?)
[04:52] <charles__> dotnet41 you have to use live cd .... you can not do grub-install while you are using the volume
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> dotnet41: simple enough, its used when windows overwrites the mbr
[04:52] <DanDare> i think that a nice choice should be uninstalling grub2 and just go for grub
[04:53] <charles__> dotnet41 ... do you want the instructions
[04:53] <dotnet41> Ive got a few sets - none are working - so sure!
[04:54] <dotnet41> Ive been trying to boot back into ubuntu for the last 3 hours.. ;/
[04:54] <DanDare> ActionParsnip, I really dont know, just installed the Nvidia (not free) drivers, it's Compiz installed by default ?
[04:55] <henson> Will the beta automatically upgrade to the full release?
[04:55] <DanDare> anyway, good point. Will disable any desktop effect.
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> henson, if you're talking about Lucid yes - see !final in #ubuntu+1
[04:55] <charles__> dotnet41 ... 1. boot from ubuntu 9.10 cd  .... sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt .... where sda5 is your linux partition
[04:56] <henson> ZykoticK9: Cool, thanks for the quick response!
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> DanDare: yes, i'd ask in #compiz as it causes the behavious sometimes
[04:56] <dotnet41> charles__: Ive got that set up at the moment (was attempting grub-install)
[04:57] <DanDare> ActionParsnip, how to just disable compiz? Just doing selection on "Appearance" from System menu ?
[04:57] <charles__> dotnet41 ... 2. .... sudo mount --bind /dev  /mnt /dev
[04:57] <soreau> DanDare: Yes, set to none
[04:58] <charles__> dotnet41 ... 3. chroot /mnt
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> DanDare: press alt+f2 type: metacity --replace
[04:58] <britany_okla> is lucid out of beta
[04:58] <DanDare> allright
[04:58] <charles__> dotnet41 ... 4. grub-install /dev/sda
[04:58] <DanDare> ActionParsnip, what it does? (already choose None for the effects part)
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> DanDare: it changes compiz (desktop effects and junk) for metacity (no efects at all)
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> DanDare: this way if its all good we know its compiz as compiz can still window manage without any effects
[04:59] <DanDare> sounds nice, thanks
[04:59] <DanDare> ok, nice test
[04:59] <dotnet41> charles__: thanks a bunch - is that last 'sda' 'sda' or 'sda#' ?
[05:00] <DanDare> will return the effects settings to "normal" and apply metacity so
[05:00] <charles__> dotnet41   last is sda .... you want to specify the drive only ... not partition
[05:00] <agusj> hi
[05:01] <DanDare> wow, trying to return setting to "normal" my desktop went without the bars or anything... after "searching for drivers" window
[05:01] <DanDare> godamn... finally loaded stuff
[05:01] <dotnet41> charles__: seemed to work fine - anything important to look at for modification afterwards?
[05:01] <charles__> dotnet41   but you want to be mounted on the partition with ubuntu on it
[05:02] <DanDare> well, but it wont to return to "normal" still market as "None"
[05:02] <charles__> dotnet41   yes .... you need to start up in your ubuntu normally and in terminal do .... sudo update-grub
[05:03] <dotnet41> charles__: I hope I can make it into ubuntu - doubt grub's going to let me by
[05:04] <charles__> dotnet41  this sets up grub to find all of your operating systems ... such as maybe xp
[05:04] <DanDare> well, a good thing about grub2 so
[05:04] <charles__> dotnet41  if it installed it should start
[05:05] <dotnet41> it started me in the grub command line - is there a way to switch to the menu?
[05:05] <agusj> anyone can help me how to solve sound with external speaker ubuntu 9.04 and notebook zyrex
[05:06] <WingedWheeler> howdy all
[05:08] <charles__> dotnet41  restart and pick safe mode ... 2nd on list ... try to get to terminal
[05:10] <dotnet41> charles__: I can't pick anything - after machine bios checks end I'm put immediately in GRUB command line
[05:10] <gwen> I have tried to install  Microsoft office 2007 with crossover 4 times and no luck.  Can you help?
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> gwen: it gets a very poor rating on the crossover site, 2003 is much more compatible
[05:13] <gwen> I'll give it a shot.
[05:13] <Maletor> INTERNET!!!
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> gwen: give it a shot? office 2003 is quite pricey
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> gwen: openoffice is free why not use that instead
[05:17] <tyler> How would i go about "cd"ing to a directory in a .sh script?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> tyler: same as if you type it in a terminal
[05:18] <Guest57964> ActionParnip: When i do so it gives me the error of directory not found
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, i see gwen is gone - but Word 2007 gets a silver rating with wine even
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: i'm guessing by ".sh script@ you mean bash script
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: yeah if you gots sp2 rolled up in it
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, but i agree - OpenOffice is a better solution
[05:19] <Guest57964> ActionParnsnip: This is correct
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest57964: file extensions mean very little in linux dude, please refer to them as bash scripts
[05:21] <Guest57964> ActionParnip: A better question would be how can i "cd" in a bash script
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest57964: same as you would type in a terminal, just add a line "cd /folder/to/jumpto
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> without the "
[05:22] <ubuntu> hi
[05:22] <dotnet41> why doesnt the bios handle the os boot menus - seems like it should be part of its job
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest57964: there is no special command
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> dotnet41: the bios' job is to setup the hardware and kickoff the boot on the selected device only. the os boot menu is not in the bios
[05:23] <ubuntu> the bios cannot keep up with all the new OSes, and it is hard to update.
[05:23] <Guest57964> ActionParnip: HEre is my script http://pastebin.com/mUmPzJsB
[05:24] <xiaogang> ganmane
[05:24] <Guest57964> ActionParnip: heres the output http://pastebin.com/fBWg0GSQ
[05:24] <dotnet41> couldn't the bios run something similar to grub that would allow config calls to set it up?
[05:24] <Jordan_U> dotnet41: The BIOS does not, and should not, have enough logic to create a suitably sophisticated menu for all OS's (including new ones that came out long after the BIOS was manufactured)
[05:24] <dotnet41> well I know currently it couldn't...
[05:24] <xiaogang> yourenzaima
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest57964: looks fine
[05:25] <xiaogang> na ge ren zai shuo hua
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> dotnet41: there is BIOSLinux which puts some of the OS in the BIOS, it can be risky though and you may brick your motherboard indefinately
[05:25] <Guest57964> dotnet41: Nope the bios is only a 8mb Small Cache chip on your motherboard even if it COULD run something like grub it wouldn't have the space
[05:26] <Guest57964> ActionParsnip: Output http://pastebin.com/fBWg0GSQ
[05:26] <Jordan_U> dotnet41: EFI is trying to put more logic in the firmware and it's almost universally dispised by bootloader and kernel developers because of its bugs and oddities.
[05:26] <dotnet41> yeah I understand the current physical limitations with how the bios is standardised today
[05:26] <xiaogang> you na ge ren  zai shuo hua
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest57964: does the folder /home/tyler/Desktop/508_Client1/files exist? you can check with: file /home/tyler/Desktop/508_Client1/files
[05:27] <xiaogang> siaco  nihao
[05:27] <its-me-again> hi i need to find an externel app on teh web its called openldup-utils
[05:27] <letalis> action
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest57964: remember the case is VERY important
[05:28] <khalid> hola
[05:28] <khalid> la sala de espanoles
[05:28] <ZykoticK9> !es | khalid
[05:28] <xiaogang> hai  nihao
[05:28] <Lordofkings> ahlan wa sahlan
[05:28] <SwedeMike> !cn | xiaogang
[05:28] <anubhav> hi
[05:28] <Guest57964> ActionParsnip: It is a directory
[05:29] <its-me-again> hello any ideas
[05:29] <xiaogang> shei hui shuo huan yu
[05:29] <Jordan_U> dotnet41: How did you install grub?
[05:29] <anubhav> u want to install grub
[05:29] <khalid> "/join #ubuntu-es"
[05:29] <xiaogang> ubottu  zen me yon han yu
[05:29] <its-me-again> dotnet41: i have a way to install grub back from teh ubuntu live cd
[05:30] <dotnet41> oh that would be useful
[05:30] <anubhav> okey u mean ur grub is corrupted n u want to recover it
[05:30] <anubhav> ??
[05:30] <its-me-again> dotnet41: pm me then
[05:30] <dotnet41> currently grub is sitting and its prompt on startup
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest57964: then there is a permission issue with the data. can you run: cd /home/tyler/Desktop/508_Client1/files
[05:30] <nikofyodo> I'm installing the Ubuntu RC in VMWare... and it installed fine... and the mouse works... but the keyboard does not... I get up to the login screen and I can't type in the password... any ideas?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> dotnet41: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[05:30] <h00k> what is [virt] as reported in top?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> nikofyodo: check your vmwarwe settings. i'd ask in #vmware for help
[05:31] <anubhav> hey my /etc/bluetooth.....dosent have hcid.conf
[05:31] <Guest57964> ActionParsnip: Yes i Can
[05:31] <anubhav> ply help
[05:31] <anubhav> hey my /etc/bluetooth.....dosent have hcid.conf plz help
[05:31] <Jordan_U> dotnet41: My guess is that you installed grub with it's files in the wrong partition, if you follow the guide I linked to it will ensure that grub is installed to the correct place.
[05:31] <anubhav> hey my /etc/bluetooth.....dosent have hcid.conf plz help
[05:31] <anubhav> hey my /etc/bluetooth.....dosent have hcid.conf plz help
[05:32] <dotnet41> Jordan_U: thanks I'll try it now - I followed 2 other guides so far to the letter to no avail
[05:32] <xiaogang> hello who can help me
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> h00k: http://linux.die.net/man/1/top states: The total amount of virtual memory used by the task. It includes all code, data and shared libraries plus pages that have been swapped out. (Note: you can define the STATSIZE=1 environment variable and the VIRT will be calculated from the /proc/#/state VmSize field.)
[05:33] <bazhang> !cn | xiaogang
[05:33] <xiaogang> hello  who  can help me
[05:33] <boolcrap> pidd= $(ps -a |grep firefox | awk '{print $1 }' );
[05:33] <boolcrap> echo  "pid = $pidd"
[05:33] <xiaogang> xie  xie ni ubottu
[05:33] <h00k> ActionParsnip: I did hust find that, thanks :)
[05:34] <boolcrap> whats wrong with that
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: or just use pidof
[05:34] <h00k> *just
[05:34] <boolcrap> o
[05:34] <boolcrap> blah :)
[05:34] <boolcrap> th
[05:34] <boolcrap> THanks
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> np :D
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: kill `pidof firefox`     etc
[05:35] <xiaogang> yon zhon guo ren ma
[05:35] <bazhang> xiaogang, /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:35] <Guest35888> hola gente, pido un concejo, que notebook usada se puede comprar y tener la seguridiad de que ununtu me va a reconocer todo y funcionar bien?
[05:35] <Jordan_U> boolcrap: pidof is much easier :)
[05:36] <boolcrap> i never knew of pidof
[05:36] <boolcrap> hey im jordan also
[05:36] <boolcrap> pidd= $(pidof firefox) ; echo  $pidd
[05:36] <boolcrap> not working ;/
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: try: pidd=`pidof firefox`; echo $pidd
[05:36] <Jordan_U> boolcrap: Try firefox-bin
[05:36] <its-me-again> dotnet41: did you get that
[05:37] <boolcrap> that does it <3
[05:37] <xiaogang> bai  ge men men
[05:37] <its-me-again> dotnet41: hello
[05:37] <its-me-again> i have found your answer
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: you could also pipe the value to xclip and its ready for pasting using standard clipboard access methods :)
[05:39]  * Jordan_U <3 xclip
[05:39] <boolcrap> yeah i have to tell you, that sounds just awful ;o
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> boolcrap: its dead handy for pastebinit :)
[05:39] <Droopsta915> I got a notice saying change association in preferences. I cant find it. anyone know where it's at?
[05:40] <cage_raphel> Hello everyone
[05:40] <Droopsta915> sorry it didnt print right
[05:40] <Droopsta915> I got a notice saying change association in preferences. I cant find it. anyone know where it's at?
[05:42] <dotnet41> Jordan_U: thanks! you're a lifesaver
[05:42] <Jordan_U> dotnet41: You're welcome :)
[05:43] <cage_raphel> i am trying to install ubuntu 9.1 on solaris 10..  i am running on ubuntu now .. however i am not able to boot solaris..  but i know i have installed it on the right partition.. how do i add solaris 10 to my ubuntu grub menu ?
[05:43] <cage_raphel> dotnet.. how are you ?
[05:43] <ryan_> your mom is solaris
[05:44] <cage_raphel> LOL ryan.. that was a good joke.. but that still does not help me fix myissue :P
[05:44] <charles__> cage_raphel  sudo update-grub
[05:44] <ryan_> reboot, f8 in safe mode ;)
[05:44] <jesus_> que honda
[05:45] <cage_raphel> charles.. i did that .. however when i reboot it goes to the ubuntu desktopdirectly.. i am not able to view the grub menu and  choose btwn ubuntu and solaris
[05:45] <its-me-again> hi i need to find an externel app on teh web its called openldup-utils
[05:46] <ryan_> I am running ubuntu ppc, and i have an 8 bit display now
[05:46] <ryan_> beat that
[05:46] <charles__> cage_raphel  ok then .. install startupmanager ...... you can choose what to start first .... maybe you will see something there
[05:47] <h00k> ryan_, you may want to take conversation into #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <ryan_> have you ever tried to look at boobs at 8 it
[05:47] <ryan_> it sucks man
[05:47] <ryan_> bit
[05:47] <FloodBot2> ryan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <joscht> i need help, i install grub2 and 9.10 and my windows partition got messed up after like 6 months of not using it and when i try to reinstall it wont let me says something wrong with the bootloader
[05:47] <charles__> cage_raphel  maybe 0 time for menu.... startupmanager can change to longer menu time
[05:47] <h00k> !guidelines | ryan_
[05:48] <h00k> ryan_: please follow them and keep it appropriate
[05:48] <cage_raphel> Charles_  i have startup manager installed too.. in it in the default operating system drop down i see 4 options.. 2 ubuntu and 2 memory test..  i dont see solaris listed there :(
[05:48] <ryan_> I am attempting to get the ppc room and x room, no one is in there
[05:48] <h00k> ryan_: while you're here, keep it appropriate
[05:48] <Jordan_U> cage_raphel: You will need to add a menu entry manually in /etc/grub.d/40_custom, for what to put in that entry try #grub
[05:49] <ryan_> Anyone familiar with video setting for an imac g3 usng ubuntu ppc
[05:49] <ryan_> getting low colors under x
[05:49] <safetynet> what is the irc channel for lucid
 alrite.. and how do i do that.. could u pls walk me thro
[05:49] <genii> ryan_: eg: no mention of boobs at whichever resolution
[05:49] <genii> !lucid | safetynet
 i am fairly brand new to ubuntu .. any help would be much appreciated
[05:50] <joscht> does someone know how to refresh the mediatomb database?
[05:50] <safetynet> genii, Thank you
[05:50] <Clorox> Is there a way to give you permissions to everything? Im having a hard time moving my old windows files to the beta.
[05:51] <ryan_> moobs
[05:53] <cage_raphel> Jordan_U, by the way i did the  grub update what u mentioned  and this is what i got
[05:53] <cage_raphel> Jordan_U, Generating grub.cfg ...
[05:53] <cage_raphel> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-20-generic-pae
[05:53] <cage_raphel> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-20-generic-pae
[05:53] <cage_raphel> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[05:53] <cage_raphel> done
[05:53] <FloodBot2> cage_raphel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <dotnet41> Is the following correct fstab syntax for moving /home to /dev/sda5/data/home? /dev/sda5 /data ext4 defaults 0 0 \n /data/home /home none bind 0 0
[05:53] <BiggFREE> Hi
[05:56] <frankie_> meets and greets fellow ubunters
[05:56] <cage_raphel> kill
[05:57] <Out_Cold> quiet in here :o/
[05:58] <belus> i have a microsd card, and i used the safely remove function... now when pluggin in the card in....my laptop doesn't do nothing...why?
[05:59] <Out_Cold> belus: do you use it between windows and linux?
[06:00] <belus> Out_Cold,  i use only ubuntu amd 64....it worked when coppying...but i used the safely remove function...and now it doesn't recognise it
[06:00] <belus> Out_Cold,  i use it for my phone
[06:00] <boolcrap> silly question
[06:00] <Out_Cold> belus: you can try to command mount it... do you know the device block?? sdb1 maybe?
[06:01] <boolcrap> strcpy copies the null terminating character right?
[06:02] <belus> Out_Cold,  i'm a newbie...i don't know much...yes i think sdb1...but what is the command to mount it?
[06:02] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:02] <Out_Cold> belus: try sudo mkdir /media/sdcard; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdcard
[06:02] <raddy> Anybody used unetbootlin?
[06:03] <charles__> belus start gparted and see if it shows up
[06:03] <frankie_> i have been trying lots of live cds and my partner likes linuxmint but i like ubuntu.. she wants me to install it but shuold i ???
[06:03] <Out_Cold> belus: that may give you an error about not telling it what file system you used.. but try it anyways..
[06:03] <belus> Out_Cold,  ok...i will try..be right back
[06:04] <Out_Cold> frankie_: install ubuntu?
[06:04] <raddy> Have anybody tried unetbootlin or know how it works/
[06:04] <Out_Cold> raddy: works like a charm..
[06:04] <raddy> Out_Cold : that is right, i have some doubts.
[06:05] <z3r0-c001> #ubuntu+1
[06:05] <frankie_> there doesnt seem to be that many differences between ubuntu and linuxmint it just seems linuxmint is simplier and easier to use is that corrrect???
[06:05] <Out_Cold> raddy: about?? i don't use the top option.. i download a iso and use the disk image option.. select a usb and kaboom. finished in 8.4 minutes
[06:06] <zyant> I have a DR-BT10CX bluetooth headset/stereo headphones. Ubuntu is recognizing it as a headset but it wont give me the option in bluetooth to use it as STEREO headphones, only mono. Where do I go for this?
[06:06] <genii> zsync?
[06:06] <raddy> Out_Cold : If i target to install it in a local drive say C:, what it would do? would it erase C: ? Or just stores the installer of the linux distribution in C: ?
[06:06] <Out_Cold> frankie_: it is the same base.. solutoins are usually the same but they don't really support each other
[06:06] <genii> c: does not exist in linux
[06:06] <Out_Cold> raddy: are you using it on windows??
[06:06] <raddy> Out_Cold : Planning to.
[06:06] <zetheroo> I am transferring 28GB of data from one USB HDD to another and it's only going at 3.4 MB/s ....  Why is it so darn slow?
[06:07] <Out_Cold> raddy: well i'm not too sure about the gui on windows.. but on linux, it will copy alongside... if there are files that are same name, they get erased.. others will stay put.. not sure about saving it to disk.. i have never tried..
[06:08] <dr3mro> zetheroo, is the files are alot and small .. what is the file system used ..???
[06:08] <safetynet> Is there a way to force quit a program without logging off ? ?
[06:09] <dr3mro> killall
[06:09] <dr3mro> safetynet, killall , sudo kill -9 , xkill
[06:09] <zetheroo> dr3mro: copying from ext3 to ntfs
[06:09] <safetynet> dr3mro, run that in terminal ?
[06:10] <dr3mro> safetynet, yes but xkill from RUN alt+f2
[06:10] <safetynet> dr3mro, thank you
[06:10] <safetynet> dr3mro, Ah got it thanks
[06:10] <dr3mro> zetheroo, what are the files .. big ISO, AVI or small text mp3
[06:10] <Out_Cold> safetynet: pkill <prog name> also works
[06:10] <zetheroo> dr3mro: all of the above
[06:11] <Clorox> Trying to copy files from my NTFS partition to my linux partition and when I do I get permission denied any suggestions?
[06:11] <Out_Cold> Clorox: mount the ntfs drive with proper permissions before you copy? i seen something on ubuntu forums about that..
[06:12] <charles__> Clorox .... where are you copying to?  you need to copy to a directory you have the permisions .... such as your home folder
[06:13] <dr3mro> zetheroo, small files are slower to copy even in windows or mac ... and why you use ext3 .. EXT4 is far superior even in latest benchamrks it was't in bar with it but I use it and get more performance than ext3 ... NTFS causes CPU high usage ... I suggest to have EXT4 for all systems ... and it will be fast ... for the small text files and html try to archive then using tar
[06:13] <Out_Cold> ugh.... so many key combos with a disabled mouse, screen and openbox running... i keep using different combos for the wrong situations
[06:14] <Clorox> Im copying from my windows folder to a file in my home folder
[06:14] <zetheroo> dr3mro: I am in the process of moving all my data off my ext3 drive so that I can reformat into ext4
[06:14] <zetheroo> :)
[06:14] <nikofyodo> Why does ubuntu feel the need to download all these language packs on installing the RC? I only use english... I have a pretty fast connection and it's taking a long time...
[06:14] <dr3mro> zetheroo, may be the media is slow .. did you try $sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
[06:15] <nikofyodo> Why weren't they included on the disk?
[06:15] <zetheroo> dr3mro: what does that do?
[06:15] <dr3mro> zetheroo, it makes  a benchmark to your harddisk .. check the man page .... man hdparm
[06:16] <zetheroo> dr3mro: also while this coying is happening my system seems to be acting a bit jerky like it's busy ... but their is about 3GB of ram free and the cpu is at 15% and under ...
[06:16] <dr3mro> zetheroo, mine  Timing cached reads:   2126 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1063.33 MB/sec
[06:16] <dr3mro>  Timing buffered disk reads:  122 MB in  3.03 seconds =  40.22 MB/sec
[06:17] <zetheroo> nice :)
[06:17] <dr3mro> zetheroo, what version of ubuntu you use ?? i used to have this on older version like gusty and hardy but since jaunty i dont have this
[06:17] <zetheroo> Karmic
[06:17] <zetheroo> fully updated
[06:18] <dr3mro> zetheroo, i think its because ext3 .. may be
[06:18] <zetheroo> hmm ok
[06:18] <Out_Cold> i only use ext2, ext4 and fat32...
[06:18] <MrSunshine> hmm, how is the nvidia graphics support in linux? :)
[06:18] <dr3mro> zetheroo, what is your hdparm
[06:18] <charles__> zetheroo do you have usb1 or usb2
[06:18] <MrSunshine> better then ati ?
[06:18] <Out_Cold> MrSunshine: yes
[06:19] <hiexpo> how do i clear out my terminal log
[06:19] <Out_Cold> MrSunshine: but it's still buggy
[06:19] <dr3mro> charles__, he is more than 1 mb/sec so usb2
[06:19] <zetheroo> dr3mro: can i do that benchmark while the data is transferring?
[06:19] <hiexpo> or should isaydelete
[06:19] <charles__> dr3mro o yes ok
[06:19] <zetheroo> charles__: USB 2 ... :) Thinkpad R61
[06:19] <dr3mro> zetheroo, it wont be accurate but it will give you idea about it .. it will be about 80 % lower
[06:19]  * biggs tryin to learn
[06:20] <zetheroo> dr3mro: ok
[06:20] <belus> Out_Cold,  I have tried and this is the output mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[06:21] <belus> Out_Cold,  It's a micro sd card in an sd addaptor, funny it worked before using that safely remove hardware thing:|
[06:21] <zetheroo> dr3mro: I did "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda"  and now i have "/dev/sda:" with a blinking cursor
[06:23] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:23] <zetheroo> dr3mro: you there?
[06:23] <raddy> I am currently downloading Ubuntu 10.04 RC
[06:24] <belus> Does anyone have a clue why I can not my microsd card anymore in my laptop?I used the remove function safely and now it will not recognise my card:| it will not say anything when plugging in
[06:24] <BiggFREE> Is it the last release ?
[06:24] <raddy> Would i need to download huge amount of stuff once final gets released?
[06:25] <zetheroo> RC = Release Candidate
[06:25] <hiexpo> nevermind i remember tired tonight
[06:25] <BiggFREE> Ok
[06:25] <raddy> Would i need to download huge amount of stuff once final gets released?
[06:25] <rww> belus: I think Safely Remove Drive disconnects some USB card readers from the USB bus. You should use one of the other unmount/eject options instead.
[06:25] <zetheroo> raddy: you mean updates?
[06:26] <raddy> zetheroo : yup
[06:26] <rww> belus: as for it not working right now, try restarting.
[06:26] <belus> rww,  Trust me, after using that, I will never ever use it again....:|I can not mount my sd card in my laptop:|
[06:26] <belus> rww,  I will try restarting the system and see
[06:26] <zetheroo> raddy: there will probably be some ... but I would imagine not too much
[06:27] <abhinav> hello is there anybody to help me pls
[06:27] <belus> rww,  be right back with info, thank you so much for the help/
[06:29] <belus> rww,  Thank you sir, thank you so much, I thought i lost my sd card forever.
[06:29] <rww> belus: No problem, glad to help. The relevant bug report is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/504440 , btw.
[06:30] <belus> rww, Thanks very mcuh.
[06:30] <belus> rww, *Much, have a great day!
[06:30] <rww> you also :)
[06:31] <lifestream> Could someone help me set up wacom in *wine*? Latest.  I don't want to ask in #wine, it's quiet  there :P
[06:34] <chris4585> what do I do when 'gpg --fingerprint" returns nothing?
[06:34] <cage_raphel> hello..
[06:35] <cage_raphel> i would like to know how i can view my ubuntu 9.1 grub menu as soon as i reboot my system.. i want my system to directly take me to the grub menu so that i can choose the other OS installed in my system. i tried giving ESC when the system boots.. but that does not take me to the Grub menu
[06:35] <chris4585> cage_raphel, I believe you hold down shift in grub2
[06:36] <chris4585> cage_raphel, try holding down shift right after bios loads
[06:36] <Bearman> Hi, every time I startup my computer i manually have to enable wireless network. Should this not be an autostart? Im using UNR 9.10
[06:36] <rww> cage_raphel: I think it's the shift key too. If you want it to show up every time, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Where%20did%20my%20Grub2%20boot%20menu%20go!?!?!
[06:37] <cage_raphel> thats amazing.. let me check and get back to u both.. thank you chris4585 and rww.
[06:37] <chris4585> Bearman, I think you can set your wireless network on autostart if you look in the network applet or something like that
[06:38] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:38] <rww> Bearman: what do you do to enable it? Click on the Network applet and select a network, or right-click it and click Enable Wireless (or Enable Networking)?
[06:38] <raddy> Can anybody tell me whether i can install ubuntu to a native partition when i follow unetbootin's frugal install method?
[06:39] <Bearman> rww, yes, I know. the problem is that i have to do this everytime at startup, I would like it to enable my Wireless automatically.
[06:40] <chris4585> raddy, as far as I know, unetbootin works with fat32 partitions
[06:40] <belus> rww,  Seems like I have another question about that sd card...I wrote information on it and clicked eject....now it says I have to wait for the system to write something on it to prevent data loss...what is this?
[06:40] <rww> Bearman: I'm asking which of those two you do? They're both supposed to be automatic, and which you're having to do manually would tell me which setting we need to change.
[06:40] <belus> rww,  And it seems endlessly ....:)the bar goes left and right ....
[06:41] <Bearman> rww, i have to right click the applet an tick the "enable wireless" box.
[06:41] <belus> rww,  I wrote 1,7gb on it, is this why i have to wait that long?
[06:41] <rww> belus: When you tell the computer to write data to an external drive, it sometimes caches it instead of writing it right away. If you tell it to eject before everything is written, that'll pop up. SD cards aren't that fast, so it sometimes takes a little while to finish writing.
[06:41] <rww> belus: yes, that'd do it :)
[06:42] <cage_raphel> chris4585, that worked.. i was able to access the GRUB menu by tapping the shift key when my system reboots!
[06:42] <chris4585> Bearman, try right clicking on the network applet, and edit connections, and go to the wireless tab, there should be a autostart option, I remember seeing one on my laptop
[06:42] <chris4585> cage_raphel, glad it worked :)
[06:42] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:42] <cage_raphel> now how do i add my Solaris 10  which is instaled in the second partition. how do i add it to my grub menu?
[06:43] <belus> rww,  Ok, thank you...woohoo, it finally completed, time to listen some good norwegian black metal on my phone while going to work. Thanks ...woohoo I'm so happy that i finally got this issue fixed..thanks so much!
[06:43] <rww> belus: You're welcome :)
[06:43] <raddy> If i put a non live cd image of ubuntu desktop iso in unetbootlin and do a frugal install, would the installer get started after rebooting?
[06:43] <cage_raphel> rww, i forgot to thank u .. my grub worked!
[06:43] <rww> Bearman: curious. Can you copy the contents of /etc/network/interfaces to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link the page it creates here, please?
[06:43] <Bearman> chris4585,  I found the option, though its already ticked.
[06:44] <Bearman> rww np
[06:44] <chris4585> cage_raphel, I think you have to login to ubuntu and run grub-pc ?
[06:44] <rww> cage_raphel: Glad I could help :)
[06:44] <cage_raphel> chris4585, i am pretty new to ubuntu .. could u pls walk me thro as to how to run the grub-pc?
[06:45] <chris4585> cage_raphel, ok hold on let me find something
[06:45] <cage_raphel> chris4585, sure thing .. pls take your time. you are doing a great job! :)
[06:46] <Bearman> rww, I might as well paste it here, it says  "auto lo, iface lo inet loopback".
[06:46] <rww> hrm, that's what it's supposed to say.
[06:46]  * rww ponders
[06:47] <chris4585> cage_raphel, look here Adding Entries to Grub 2 on this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[06:48] <BiggFREE> bbl
[06:48] <BiggFREE> tc
[06:48] <rocket16> Hello all,
[06:48] <crash1hd> Hey all so last week I turfed and reinstalled one of my xp machines and now my putty is complaining that its missing its private key to connect to my ubuntu box.  Is there anyone out there that can tell me a quick way of either recreating or getting the private key again?
[06:48] <rocket16> By the way, is there any Chemistry Equation Editor for Ubuntu?
[06:49] <cage_raphel> chris4585, thanks for that info again .. but i have no clue how to update the menu.lst. would u like to take a look at my menu.lst file?
[06:49] <chris4585> cage_raphel, first, are you booted into ubuntu?
[06:49] <rww> crash1hd: You can't recreate private SSH keys. You'd need to generate a new keypair and upload it to your ubuntu box, the same way you did originally.
[06:49] <rocket16> crash1hd: Private Key? Sorry if I misunderstood, but is it the Password you're talking about there?
[06:49] <Bearman> rww,  the install is fresh from yesterday so I have not had time to mess things up
[06:50] <cage_raphel> chris4585, yes i am on ubuntu now
[06:50] <rocket16> crash1hd: Oh, sorry. Seems like I misunderstood., :(
[06:50] <crash1hd> rww, ok hmm any reference as to how to do that quick (I am on the ubuntu box now)
[06:50] <rww> Bearman: Has it always acted like that, or did it work when you first installed?
[06:50] <cage_raphel> chris4585, if i am not wrong .. this is the command to access the menu.lst..... sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst . is that the correct one ?
[06:50] <crash1hd> and do I have to remove anything to do this
[06:50] <crash1hd> like the old public key?
[06:50] <Bearman> rww, no. it never worked
[06:51] <rww> crash1hd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys for the Ubuntu side. I don't know how to do the PuTTY side.
[06:51] <chris4585> cage_raphel, open a terminal by going to Applications > Accessories > Terminal then type sudo update-grub
[06:51] <crash1hd> rww, thankyou :)
[06:51] <chris4585> cage_raphel, that does look like the right command, but you don't have to do it manually I think
[06:51] <cage_raphel> chris4585,  ok .. done.
[06:52] <cage_raphel> chris4585, would u like to see the output of what i have got here after running the command?
[06:52] <rww> Bearman: Do you have the same problem if you boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[06:52] <rocket16> How can we restore the Ubuntu Login Screen? I tickled it with GDM2Setup, and made a mess, :( Should I uninstall and reinstall Ubuntu-Login-Screen?
[06:52] <Bearman> rww, I think so.
[06:53] <chris4585> cage_raphel, in the output does it mention anything about opensolaris?
[06:53] <rocket16> Bearman: Friend, mind if I know what is the problem? I just joined, and may be I could do a little help, :)
[06:54] <cage_raphel> chris4585, no.. no such thing is mentioned.. i would appreciate if you can quickly go thro this output. shall i send the output to u in a private chat.. looks like i cant paste here.
[06:54] <Bearman> rocket16, please! :)
[06:54] <chris4585> cage_raphel, sure
[06:54] <rww> ubottu: paste | cage_raphel
[06:55] <rocket16> Bearman: Sure, but I could not see your question, since I joined after you typed the question, :( So, would you mind Private Messaging me the question so that I can see?
[06:55] <rww> Bearman: alright, I'm drawing a blank, sorry. Perhaps rocket16 will be of more use
[06:56] <rocket16> rww: Thanks, I'll try my best, :)
[06:56] <frankie_> i love ubuntu
[06:56] <frankie_> but i love linux mint too :(
[06:57] <rocket16> Bearman: Thanks, :) I think, this is the solution: First right-click the Network Widget, then select "Edit Connections", then
[06:57] <crucialhoax> Hey frankie_
[06:57] <Name141> Is 9.04 "hardy" ?
[06:57] <frankie_> hello crucialhoax
[06:57] <crucialhoax> Name141: 9.04 is Jaunty
[06:57] <rww> Name141: 9.04 is Jaunty. Hardy is 8.04.
[06:57] <chris4585> Name141, no thats jaunty, hardy is 8.04
[06:57] <rocket16> Name141: No, it is JAunty Jackalope
[06:57] <chris4585> rww, brainsync lol
[06:58] <rww> :)
[06:58] <Name141> eh.  I might as well trash this CD then
[06:58] <rocket16> Bearman: Now, select Wireless TAB, and edit the connection, and select "Connect automatically at startup"
[06:58] <rww> Name141: what type of CD is it?
[06:58] <Name141> rww: Jaunty.
[06:58] <progzer> Hi, In case someone has an account on ubuntuforums, you could post the information I posted here http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=81209 to this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=883690&page=3 for everyone's benefit. (I dislike signing up on multiple websites.)
[06:58] <Bearman> rocket16, Sorry, that option is already ticked.
[06:58] <Name141> Oh I found 8.04 LTS.  That's hardy?
[06:59] <frankie_> is it bad that i tried opensuse, ubuntu and linuxmint and not really notice any major differences between them ??
[06:59] <rww> Name141: yup
[06:59] <Name141> I would assume soon as the next LTS is out, hardy will be dead?
[06:59] <chris4585> frankie_, no thats not bad
[06:59] <Name141> for security updates, etc?
[07:00] <Bearman> rocket16, rww, my time is running up. Thanks for the help anyway.
[07:00] <rww> Name141: LTS releases are supported for three years on desktop computers and five years on servers. Hardy came out in April 2008.
[07:00] <rocket16> Bearman: I got the answer, check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636045
[07:00] <rocket16> Bearman: I think that might help, :)
[07:00] <Name141> rww: OK.  So I could put hardy on the machine now, but I probably would want whatever the next LTS is coming out in a few days?
[07:01] <rww> Name141: Also, you can upgrade straight from Hardy to Lucid when it comes out (since they're both LTS), rather than having to go through the versions in between like you would with Jaunty.
[07:01] <frankie_> chris4585 : that is good ! i did notice the difference between KDE and gnome, I do like gnome but my partner was impressed with KDE widgets, but opensuse was a bit more frustrating to get hardware to work :P
[07:01] <rww> Name141: I'd wait a few months to let them shake the bugs out, but yeah, you'd want to upgrade at some point.
[07:01] <Name141> rww: Ok.  I'll just put the LTS on there then instead of 9.10
[07:02] <Bearman> rocket16, thanks. I will have a go with that in the afternoon. Now I have to prepare an interview.. :)
[07:02] <rocket16> Bearman: Sure, Goodluck, :)
[07:02] <rww> Name141: alright. I'll have the channel bot send you a link to the upgrade instructions for when you decide to do that.
[07:02] <chris4585> frankie_, cool, hey you might like this channel #ubuntu-offtopic personally I prefer gnome
[07:02] <rww> ubottu: tell Name141 about upgrade
[07:02] <rocket16> Bearman: See you again,
[07:02] <Bearman> thanks, c u
[07:03] <theadmin> aaaand upgrade has started (note: NOT asking help for Lucid :/)
[07:03] <rww> theadmin: good luck :)
[07:04] <theadmin> 5 hours... Why are the update channels so slow these days? o_O
[07:04] <rww> theadmin: presumably because everyone else is upgrading to Lucid too ;P
[07:04] <theadmin> rww: I see. Guess everyone wants to get the RC, because usually it's nearly just as stable as final
[07:05] <theadmin> Strange that it wants to download less files then when I was upgrading to Karmic :D
[07:07] <Aciid> aint admin* and root* disallowed nicknames on freenode
[07:07] <Aciid> because they are misleading
[07:07] <theadmin> Aciid: Guess no :P
[07:08] <rww> Aciid: Not that I've ever heard.
[07:08] <Mathuin> Any chance there's someone here who is experienced with sredird, ser2net, or anything like that?  I have an app that accesses a serial port that I'd like to redirect to a network port.
[07:08] <Aciid> okey
[07:09] <Doyle> Q: Is there a way to get flash to play well in Ubuntu? If not, anyone know a distro that handles it well?
[07:09] <Mathuin> Alternatively, if someone can help me figure out which files to change to tell the cp210x module to not use DTR and RTS, that'd be even better.
[07:10] <lifestream> Does anyone have wacom working *IN* wine?
[07:10] <theadmin> lifestream: We don't support wine here. #winehq plz
[07:11] <Myke1> Anyone know why Ubuntu one doesnt like Truecrypted volumes?
[07:11] <Myke1> i cant get them to sync
[07:11] <lifestream> theadmin,  I tried there, and I thought you might be so kind to help here:P chances of ubuntu users using photoshop (high) chances of wine devs using photoshop, not high
[07:12] <theadmin> lifestream: Chances of ubuntu users using the GIMP are higher, though :P
[07:12] <lifestream> theadmin,  as long as some use photoshop. I myself /was/ using gimp
[07:12] <Mathuin> Hrm.  sredird and ser2net both seem to start from the network side -- I need something that starts on the serial side.  Ugh.  Why is this so hard?
[07:12] <rww> Myke1: if you don't get an answer here, there's an #ubuntuone channel that might know
[07:13] <hardran3> Doyle, try the 10.1 rc of flash. runs much smoother on my netbook.
[07:13] <Myke1> ah ok thanks
[07:13] <Name141> rww: I'm assuming to have gazillions of GB's of updates I will have to download after installing Hardy since it's so old?
[07:14] <theadmin> Name141: Nope, you can upgrade straight to Lucid (LTS to LTS upgrades are way possible)
[07:14] <rww> Name141: Depends on which type of Hardy CD you have. LTSes get point releases (8.04.1, 8.04.2, etc.) with update rollups.
[07:14] <Name141> rww: I just found the original 8.04
[07:14] <rww> theadmin: I think Name141 means updates from hardy release to the current version of hardy
[07:15] <Name141> yeah
[07:15] <rww> Name141: if it's 8.04.0, then yes, you'll have quite a few :(
[07:15] <Lantizia> Hey, is anyone else confused about why on earth I should care about UEC?
[07:15] <Name141> rww: I hope this wont take long, I only have unlimited bandwdith from 1-6 AM and it's 1:14
[07:16] <Lantizia> Don't we have KVM and OpenVZ for this kind of thing>?
[07:17] <Myke1> RWW im in Ubuntuone help... no one is awake
[07:17] <Myke1> lol
[07:17] <nikkus> i'm awakinggggggg :P
[07:17] <Mathuin> It is after eleven california time, after two boston time.  Some folks do sleep. :-)
[07:17] <rww> Myke1: Yeah, they're a little smaller than this channel. More knowledgeable when they're around, though :)
[07:18] <Doyle> hardran3: I'll give it a shot. thanks
[07:18] <Myke1> yeah. i just dont know why my truecrypt volumes dont sync in ubuntu one
[07:18] <rww> Lantizia: If you need support help with UEC, try #ubuntu-server. If you just want to chat about it, try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:19] <crucialhoax> How can I implement whiptail into my scripts?
[07:22] <Guest19504> mauricio
[07:24] <xdr_> question, ubuntu 10.04 how can I replace or alter the login splash
[07:24] <Name141> rww: I assume that 8.04 will have just about everything, maybe a little latter versions than 9.10 ?
[07:24] <rww> xdr_: 10.04 discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1
[07:24] <Yum> hello everyone
[07:24] <rww> Name141: Yep, it should be useable, albeit a little old.
[07:25] <Name141> rww: I just want it to do basic stuff like run eggdrops
[07:25] <Name141> rww: it's an old old machine
[07:25] <rww> Name141: should be fine for that :)
[07:26] <Name141> rww: remind me of how to install SSHd again once this is all done?
[07:27] <rww> Name141: install openssh-server with a packagemanager. For example, you could do it from the command-line with "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[07:27] <g0aliath> is there a command that i can hide my desktop icons?
[07:27] <Name141> OK
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:28] <Name141> ut oh, it's Ice T
[07:30] <wise_crypt> g0aliath: right click on your desktop > configure desktop > behavior > unchecked show icon on desktop i assume you use kde
[07:31] <crucialhoax> How can I implement whiptail into my scripts?
[07:32] <mcbelme> Ola
[07:32] <mcbelme> Ola
[07:32] <mcbelme> ola
[07:32] <mcbelme> ola
[07:32] <FloodBot2> mcbelme: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:32] <mcbelme> ok
[07:33] <mcbelme> ia entenid
[07:33] <g0aliath> wise_crypt: thanks
[07:33] <theadmin> ubottu: es | mcbelme
[07:33] <wise_crypt> g0aliath: no problem
[07:33] <rww> Name141: I just remembered, there's a security issue in the openssl-related packages on early Hardy CDs. You'll want to read http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-1 and make sure your package versions are at or above the ones at the bottom of that page after installation. You can check that with apt-cache policy packagename, and update just one package with sudo apt-get install packagename.
[07:33] <mcbelme> ola
[07:33] <g0aliath> what happens if i do not have that option?
[07:33] <theadmin> sigh
[07:34] <theadmin> ubottu: ops | mcbelme is either dumb or flooding intentionally
[07:34] <Name141> rww: I'm assuming as soon as I update everything , it will work out ?
[07:34] <theadmin> woah, the list of ops increased
[07:34] <mcbelme> ola
[07:34] <Flannel> mcbelme: Please stop
[07:34] <rww> Name141: correct. You can also check by installing openssh-blacklist, which will figure it out for you.
[07:34] <rww> thanks Flannel :)
[07:34] <mcbelme> im sorry
[07:35] <rww> openssl-blacklist **
[07:35] <Name141> rww: that'll be some time at the rate of this install lol
[07:35] <mcbelme> alguien q hable español
[07:35] <rww> mcbelme: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:35] <mneptok> mcbelme: Ingles solamente, pf
[07:35] <theadmin> mcbelme: Por favor escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" sin comilas y dale a enter. Gracias.
[07:35] <mcbelme> mneptok de donde eres
[07:35] <mcbelme> the admin ia entre pero no hay nadie
[07:36] <mneptok> mcbelme: en #ubuntu-es
[07:36] <MichaelSP1991> join
[07:36] <theadmin> mcbelme: I don't speak spanish :P I just took this line from ubottu
[07:37] <mneptok> mcbelme: es una problems de canal #ubuntu-es. este canal es Ingles solamente.
[07:37]  * mneptok will now revert to English.
[07:38] <theadmin> mneptok: gracias :D probably this dude will understand humans better then bots
[07:38] <clotterm> hi. how can i check out a package from launchpad? at the package there's no ppa gibven
[07:38] <mneptok> theadmin: FCDO "human"  :P
[07:38] <theadmin> mneptok: fcdo?
[07:38] <mneptok> "for certain definitions of"
[07:39] <theadmin> mneptok: Well, I do believe you are human.
[07:39] <Mathuin> I always heard it as "FSVO", for certain values of. :-)
[07:39] <Mathuin> Made a workaround that uses at/cron to do the right thing.  It'll let me sleep at night anyway.
[07:39] <Mathuin> Night all!
[07:39] <mneptok> theadmin: that's a nice change. you're hereby forbidden from conversing with my wife.
[07:40] <theadmin> mneptok: o_O lolwut... I don't understand anything anymore %)
[07:40] <mneptok> theadmin: sleep will cure that.
[07:40]  * mneptok tootles of to Dreamyhappyland
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: +1 one, same cure needed :(
[07:41] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: "+1 one"?
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: sure why not :D
[07:42] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Didn't understand... Oh well.
[07:42] <boolcrap> if i dont specify a path, just a filename, it assumes the path of the file that is specifying the filename ?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: its been a long night
[07:43] <theadmin> boolcrap: When you specify just the file it assumes the file is in $PATH or current directory
[07:44] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: It's gonna be a long day, to, this RC upgrade is moving slowly
[07:44] <theadmin> sed s/to/too
[07:45] <Name141> rww: I don't assume there is any generic driver I could install to make my VooDoo3 3DFX 8MB video card look better?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: fast day for me, I'll be asleep all day
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Name141: a stock install ships with the driver
[07:45] <Name141> ActionParsnip: so it's as good as it gets ?
[07:45] <rww> Name141: no idea, sorry :(
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Name141: pretty much, not sure about 3D accel but you should get really nice 2D
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Name141: you may need to form an xorg.conf if you are not getting the resolution you desire
[07:47] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I'll pretty much just be on it over SSH in a few hours anyway
[07:47] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: xorg.conf, xorg.conf... They're trying to get rid of it and you go advising people to use it.
[07:48] <rww> theadmin: They're not "trying to get rid of it"; Xorg just autodetects things by default. It's a perfectly necessary and legitimate way of applying settings, especially for older cards.
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: because its tried and tested and works
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: suitable settings do not always get picked up automagically and personally I think its a bad move to not ship the OS with at least a skeletal file
[07:50] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Can't xrandr do something about it? :/ It's a huge monster so i haven't fully understood it yet
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: possibly but if the monitor doesn't report refresh rates then xrandr might come up short
[07:52] <theadmin> heh, I love how this upgrader jumps. 3 hours 56 minutes. 4 hours 15 minutes. "About 5 hours". 2 hours 15 minutes. :/
[07:53] <theadmin> Wonder what's the CLI way to do a distribution upgrade.
[07:53] <rww> theadmin: sudo do-release-upgrade
[07:53] <theadmin> rww: Thanks
[07:53] <rww> ubottu: upgrade
[07:55] <kraut> moin
[07:55] <gFred> Hi! I wanna add a user to my Ubuntu box, just to run irssi
[07:55] <gFred> I'm going to loan this account to a friend, so I don't want him to have access to div. folders, etc
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | gfred
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Gfred: not a bad security move at all :)
[07:56] <gFred> ActionParsnip: thanks, but I know how to add hi
[07:56] <gFred> *him
[07:56] <gFred> I just wanted some help on how to restrict the access he get as much ass possible
[07:57] <gFred> He won't need anything else than running irssi in screen
[07:57] <red2kic> gFred: You don't want him to "sudo shutdown -h now" while you're doing something important. ;)
[07:57] <jhardin> Quick question. First time I booted into the new ubuntu RC, empathy showed my messages in a little green mail icon along with all the evolution stuff
[07:58] <jhardin> That's now gone, anyway to get it back?
[07:58] <theadmin> gFred: Watch the language please... Basically, you'll be fine with defaults
[07:58] <gFred> He have almost no knowledge to linux, and I know him well, so I don't consider making him a user a security-problem :)
[07:58] <rww> jhardin: Lucid/10.04 discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1
[07:58] <pilica_36> Hi ! I want to install on Ubuntu 10 RC SunJava but i could not see on Software Center.
[07:58] <jhardin> ok thanks
[07:58] <gFred> theadmin: watch the language? What did I say?
[07:58] <rww> pilica_36: Lucid/10.04 discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:58] <theadmin> gFred: "restrict the access ass much as possible", "ass" is a bad word
[07:58] <red2kic> theadmin: He intend to say as.
[07:58] <pilica_36> OK THANKS!
[07:59] <gFred> haha, ok, sorry :P
[07:59] <theadmin> Wait wha... RC has no Java? o_O
[07:59] <strings_> gFred: as long as he doesnt have sudo access he should be fine. if anything he'll learn more from not restricting to much.
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: its not, its another word for a donkey
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin; its even written in the christian bible a few times :)
[07:59] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Yeah, however, it's also another word for... you know what, I think.
[07:59] <gFred> strings_: will he be able to browse my files and directories?
[07:59] <theadmin> No idea why it ended up to be this way :P
[08:00] <theadmin> gFred: Make sure they are in correct mode, that's all
[08:00] <theadmin> chmod 770 $HOME
[08:00] <gFred> ok, great thanks!
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: phrases and words have interesting roots, you should investigate
[08:00] <strings_> gFred: no he'll pretty much only have access to his home directory
[08:00] <gFred> ok, thats fine
[08:00] <gFred> great support here, thanks :)
[08:01] <Alcor> tst
[08:01] <red2kic> gFred: The best way is to be that user yourself and test just how much limitation you get.
[08:01] <rww> Alcor: sccdd
[08:02] <theadmin> gFred: Ubuntu IS for human beings :D
[08:02] <red2kic> And donkeys.
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> I say linux is for human beings :)
[08:02] <strings_> oh you didnt :P
[08:02] <theadmin> but yeah this support is a lot better then, say, Fedora's, or LinuxMint's. In last one they might tell you to rtfm... and be fully right, because by default "rtfm" is an alias to "man" there
[08:03] <Doyle> Oh YEA! Thanks. 10.1 is much better. Still seems to operate better with hardware acceleration disabled.
[08:03] <red2kic> theadmin: That's nice. I like that idea. I should add an alias -- rtfm for man.  Hmm. :)
[08:03] <red2kic> !away > JimmyJ|zz
[08:04] <theadmin> red2kic: I have an alias "please"="sudo" too :D
[08:05] <gFred> theadmin: :D
[08:05] <red2kic> theadmin: I have alias ssh-clean='rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts' <-- This one I find useful but yes, I should practice my security just a tad better
[08:05] <theadmin> and "apt"="sudo apt-get", but that is just for convinience
[08:05] <rww> alias icanhas='sudo aptitude install'
[08:05] <theadmin> rww: lol
[08:06] <theadmin> icanhas man-db?
[08:06] <theadmin> XD
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> I hope you all have sl installed :)
[08:08] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: sl?
[08:09] <theadmin> hm o_O strange package
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> !info sl
[08:09] <OperaRox> UBUINTTTTTTTTTTT
[08:09] <theadmin> huh wait a sec... why can i do "apt-cache search" even though I have an update (aka other package manager) running
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Aka steam locomotive
[08:09] <rww> theadmin: because apt-cache search doesn't require write-access to the package database
[08:09] <rww> (same reason you don't need sudo)
[08:09] <theadmin> rww: ...oh :D
[08:09] <red2kic> theadmin: You're just searching the packages.
[08:10] <vak> !ext4
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: you aren't modifying any packages, simply querying them
[08:10]  * vak is confused about ext4...
[08:10] <theadmin> vak: Why?
[08:11] <MichaelSP1991> irc.osx86.hu
[08:11] <vak> theadmin: i tried to format my additional partition as ext4 and can't find the entry in format options...
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Vak: wikipedia has a detailed article on ext4
[08:11] <vak> theadmin: I used the GUI menu
[08:11] <red2kic> vak: What version are you using?
[08:11] <vak> ubuntu 9.10
[08:11] <theadmin> vak: Hm. Could you try "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1" (or similar, that is sda1 being the proper device)
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Vak: you may have to modprobe in a module if you are using pre-jaunty
[08:12] <vak> ActionParsnip: could you please drop a command line for this check?
[08:13]  * vak was quite sure till now that released 9.10 (not a prerelease) has been installed...
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Vak: lsb_release -c
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> !release | vak
[08:13] <vak> Codename:	karmic
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Oh, I thought it gave thr command
[08:13] <vak> the root partition is ext4
[08:14] <vak> I just wanted to convert another one to ext4 too...
[08:15] <Merwin> Hi
[08:16] <Merwin> I've got a command line script which runs scp: http://pastebin.com/PgT8m9Hi, and send a password.
[08:16] <vak> and you,  guys, what do you have in GUI's format options? I have only 4 entries: FAT, Ext2, Ext3 and Encrypted FAT.
[08:16] <liubin> Hello
[08:16] <Merwin> Why os there a window that pop up and ask me 'enter password for ....'
[08:16] <vak> weird.
[08:16] <Merwin> *is
[08:18] <strings_> vak: is this in gparted?
[08:19] <red2kic> Question: How can I install OS and append my encrypted-and-lvm home partition without overwriting? :)
[08:20] <vak> strings_: I don't know what "gparted" means :)
[08:20] <vak> probably it is a tool?
[08:20] <red2kic> !info gparted | vak
[08:20] <orso> ciao a tutti
[08:21] <rww> ubottu: it | orso
[08:21] <dezine> How I would go about installing Grub so that it doesn't overwrite window's 7's mbr, so I can add it to the w7 loader with easybcd?
[08:21] <vak> I think some default partition manager from Ubuntu 9.10 installer has been used
[08:21] <vak> red2kic: ^^
[08:21] <vak> so, maybe gpart...
[08:22] <orso> hi
[08:22] <red2kic> vak: Probably.
[08:22] <strings_> vak: either way, you need to install support for the file system you want to format for. say ntfs you would need ntf-progs
[08:23] <vak> wait... the root partition has been created during 9.10 installation by the default partition manager. But the other partition I am trying to format as Ext4 has been last formated with Ubuntu 8.x with whatever older partition manager.
[08:23] <theadmin> vak: so what, not important
[08:23] <vak> strings_: oh, I thought mkfs.ext4 is the only prerequisite...
[08:24] <strings_> vak: restate your issue please
[08:24] <theadmin> vak: Which version of e2fsprogs you have?
[08:24] <wise_crypt> !info update-rc.d
[08:24] <Jordan_U> dezine: You can install grub to a partition but that requires blocklists, which are unreliable. Why don't you want grub in the MBR?
[08:26] <unop> !info sysv-rc | wise_crypt
[08:26] <vak> strings_: OK, I have an Ext3 legacy partition from previous ubuntu. This partition is not the root currently. I just try to convert this ext3 partition into ext4 and attach to my Ubuntu 9.10
[08:26] <Jordan_U> dezine: You can also use whatever trick wubi does.
[08:26] <dezine> Jordan_U: I am using 10.04 and it doesn't recognise windows 7 and I have been unable to get it onto grub.
[08:26] <SauLus> what is the name of the programm that checks if a file has changed and reports an event to the running application?
[08:26] <vak> theadmin: e2fsck only
[08:26] <Jordan_U> SauLus: inotify
[08:27] <wise_crypt> !grub | dezine
[08:27] <theadmin> vak: HUH? You need e2fsprogs to format to ext2/3/4
[08:27] <vak> oh...
[08:27] <theadmin> ubottu: info e2fsprogs
[08:27] <theadmin> ...ubottu, hello?
[08:27] <Klevre> I have a Ubuntu version running in virtual PC and I forgot the root user password. Is there any way to retrieve/reset it?
[08:27] <Jordan_U> dezine: Do you have Ubuntu installed currently (if not bootable currently)?
[08:27] <theadmin> Klevre: There is no root password
[08:28] <theadmin> ubottu: RootSudo | Klevre
[08:28] <wise_crypt> unop: i prefer update-rc.d
[08:28] <SauLus> ty Jordan_U
[08:28] <dezine> Jordan_U:  I do, and I can get grub installed but it won't have windows and I can restore the windows boot record but it won't have Ubuntu. But, if I can get Ubuntu to install grub I have a way to get Windows to load grub seperately.
[08:28] <Jordan_U> SauLus: You're welcome.
[08:28] <strings_> vak: blog.fusi0n.org/linux/converting-ext3-partitions-to-ext4-on-ubuntu-904-jaunty
[08:28] <vak> theadmin: oh, i see, you mean the *package* not the executable. actually, e2fsprogs is already the newest version
[08:28] <theadmin> vak: Ah :D Then... then dunno o_O
[08:29] <unop> wise_crypt,  update-rc.d (the script) is contained in the sysv-rc package
[08:29] <Jordan_U> dezine: I think I can probably get windows booting from grub, and I doubt that many people here will be able to help with getting windows to load grub.
[08:29] <Klevre> theadmin: Oh, I thought I changed password.
[08:30] <wise_crypt> unop: i see thanks
[08:30] <dezine> Jordan_U: I just need help installing grub somewhere other than the mbr
[08:30] <theadmin> vak: Here is a nice table showing what needs what: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/.parttable.png
[08:31] <dezine> Once I do that, I know what else to do.
[08:31] <Jordan_U> dezine: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, choose a partition *not* your windows partition, when asked for an install device. But I still don't recommend this approach.
[08:31] <igoryonya_> hello, I am stuck, I know that my hdd is damaged (some sectors are bad), when I do fsck, it says that data may get damaged/corrupted if I run it on the mounted system, but how do I run it on the unmounted system, the hdd is root "/". Ubuntu 64 9.04
[08:32] <theadmin> igoryonya_: Use a Live CD
[08:32] <dezine> thx Jordan_U I will try that
[08:32] <Klevre> Where can I get additional tools for Ubuntu on Virtual PC. I can't adjust the resolution without them.
[08:32] <vak> theadmin: 1. really nice. ==> 2. I do have e2fsprogs 1.41.9
[08:32] <rocket16> Friends, I decided to replace Nautilus, but Thunrar and PCManFM does not work nicely. (PCManFM is cool, but it can not open Pictures, MP3s etc and considers them to be executable). Any way to fix PCManFM or any other nicer replacement for Nautilus?
[08:32] <Name141> how do I do install , such as the upgrade manager would do in the terminal?
[08:32]  * vak is ocnfused with ext4 even more...
[08:32] <igoryonya_> theadmin: ok, so, it's not possible do do without a live cd, just curious now.
[08:32] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Name141
[08:33] <theadmin> vak: Tell "really nice" to GParted developers :D But as for that problem, I dunno anything anymore
[08:33] <Jordan_U> igoryonya_: You can "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot"
[08:33] <Name141> Jordan_U: I don't want to upgrade the distro
[08:33] <Name141> Jordan_U: i want to upgrade the security/programs
[08:33] <theadmin> what on earth is "reboot", i don't think that's a command o_O
[08:33] <igoryonya_> Jordan_U: so it will do fsck during reboot?
[08:34] <Jordan_U> igoryonya_: Yes.
[08:34] <theadmin> ...or no
[08:34] <theadmin> So if i put a forcefsck file on a hard drive, it will be fscked during bootup?
[08:34] <theadmin> Great.
[08:34] <wise_crypt> igoryonya: live cd is the best way
[08:34] <plum-mobile> Hey guys. Ubuntu live has been fucking me over and over all day. Can someone PLEASE assist me before I off myself. Lol
[08:35] <theadmin> plum-mobile: 1) watch the language 2) ask the real question
[08:35] <igoryonya_> wise_crypt, I am wondering, why is live cd better then checking during boot?
[08:35] <theadmin> 50% of packages is fetched :) Greeeeat.
[08:36] <rocket16> !language | plum-mobile
[08:36] <plum-mobile> Sorry theadmin, that was the last of my profanity. My thumbdrive won't allow write access from ubuntu live
[08:36] <Jordan_U> igoryonya_: Then the fsck program itself (and other programs it uses, including the kernel) are known not to be corrupt.
[08:36] <igoryonya_> Jordan_U: ok, thanx
[08:36] <theadmin> plum-mobile: chmod -R 777 /path/to/drive/folder
[08:37] <Jordan_U> igoryonya_: You're welcome.
[08:37] <Klevre> Where can I get additional tools for Ubuntu on Virtual PC? I can't adjust the resolution without them.
[08:37] <theadmin> Klevre: There are no such tools.
[08:37] <Klevre> Oh, no display drivers?
[08:37] <theadmin> Klevre: What are you using, VMWare?
[08:38] <Klevre> MS Virtual PC.
[08:38] <plum-mobile> theadmin: ok I will try that...
[08:38] <theadmin> Klevre: ...yuck. Use VirtualBox, has much better support for Linux guests.
[08:38] <Klevre> theadmin: Free?
[08:38] <plum-mobile> theadmin: it says "changing permissions of (it lists every file): read-only file system
[08:39] <Klevre> Chaning permissions of a CD? :/
[08:39] <Klevre> changing*
[08:39] <theadmin> Klevre: Totally. see www.virtualbox.org
[08:39] <plum-mobile> Nevermind... I gave up on that drive and used another, second one worked
[08:40] <plum-mobile> Sorry for the frustrated attitude everyone
[08:40] <jove> hello: how to check the current Ubuntu version ? I run "uname -a" that show:  2.6.31-20-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 05:23:09 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:41] <jove> how do I know it's Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[08:41] <igoryonya_> sometimes, dorung work session, sporadically, all of a sudden, my file system changes to read-only and I have to reboot for it to become writable again. What could cause it?
[08:41] <DJones> !version  | jove
[08:41] <theadmin> jove: lsb_release -sr
[08:42] <Klevre> theadmin: That sounds great, coding on 800x600 is a pain.
[08:42] <theadmin> Klevre: It supports nearly every system as guest with nearly every system as host :D
[08:42] <theadmin> Klevre: Why not a normal install, though?
[08:42] <majia321>  ###(####) - 1 ### - A Contre -Courant (####) [02:45/04:32]
[08:42] <majia321>  ###(####) - 1 ### - A Contre -Courant (####) [02:50/04:32]
[08:43] <Klevre> theadmin: Only have one PC atm.
[08:43] <theadmin> Klevre: ...So, resize ntfs partition and dual-boot, just like I do.
[08:43] <jove> thanks ubottu & theadmin
[08:43] <Klevre> Then I wouldn't be able to use both at once :p
[08:43] <jove> theadmin: what is the latest Ubuntu version out there now ?
[08:43] <theadmin> Klevre: Indeed :D also look into andLinux, which is an Ubuntu designed to run inside Windows.
[08:44] <kai> hi folks
[08:44] <theadmin> jove: LucidLynx is the development one (10.04), KarmicKoala (9.10) is the recent stable one.
[08:45] <jove> hi theadmin : here is my output : lsb_release -a
[08:45] <jove> No LSB modules are available.
[08:45] <jove> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[08:45] <jove> Description:	Ubuntu 9.10
[08:45] <jove> Release:	9.10
[08:45] <FloodBot2> jove: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <jove> Codename:	karmic
[08:45] <theadmin> What is the debian release name Ubuntu is based on, by the wa? o_O
[08:45] <theadmin> s/wa/way
[08:45] <theadmin> jove: That's Karmic.
[08:46] <jove> theadmin: so I am the latest 9.10 ?
[08:46] <theadmin> jove: Yes. 6 days until Lucid though :D
[08:46] <jove> what does it mean 6 day till D ? theadmin
[08:47] <Klevre> theadmin: 32-bit versions only it seems.
[08:47] <theadmin> jove: It means that new release will be out in 6 days
[08:47] <red2kic> !lucid | jove
[08:47] <red2kic> jove: 10.04 Yay! :)
[08:47] <theadmin> Klevre: andLinux? Yeah o_O indeed, forgot it
[08:47] <bzrk> hi, does anyone know what settings i need to build a package that installs to /usr/local/dir? i tried modifying the rules file with a custom configure prefix but that did not work.
[08:47] <theadmin> It's a couple releases behind too (Jaunty)
[08:48] <theadmin> bzrk: Totally depends on the software
[08:48] <bzrk> theadmin: could you elaborate?
[08:48] <theadmin> Klevre: ^W !!
[08:49] <theadmin> Klevre: Or, rather, !-2
[08:50] <strings_> bzrk: you should just have to do something like . ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/foo or I would use /opt/foo
[08:50] <bzrk> strings_: yeah i added that to the configure part of the rules file but it did not make it in the final package, though it was shown during the making
[08:51] <vak> theadmin: strings_: red2kic: thanks guys, CLI-approach went OK. The only question, are there any specific arguments that one could use in mkfs.ext4 for the big number of small files in directory?
[08:51] <strings_> bzrk: you are rebuilding a dpkg?
[08:51] <vak> in my case the number of files per dir is about 200K.
[08:51] <theadmin> vak: Try... "for f in 'ls /your/directory' do mkfs.ext4 $f"
[08:51] <bzrk> strings_: no i am building from a .tgz
[08:52] <theadmin> forgot a done, but you get my point
[08:52] <strings_> bzrk: if youare build from source code. ./configure --prefix should work. along with make install
[08:52] <vak> theadmin: i consider this as a joke :)
[08:52] <theadmin> vak: Was supposed to be serious, however I'm unsure what you meant.
[08:53] <bzrk> strings_: the normal ./configure && make && make install does, but not debuild unfortunately :(
[08:53] <dum> hi, is it possible to copy panel shortcuts in ubuntu karmic?
[08:53] <dum> I want to copy the shorts cuts from one machine to another..
[08:53] <vak> theadmin: Oh, OK. My partition will be used to store directories, where each directory tends to have a very big number of small files.
[08:53] <dum> perhaps by copying a file?
[08:53] <adante> hi guys, i have plugged another hdd /dev/sdd in while calling mkfs on another hdd /dev/sdc. The /dev/sdd has a sdd1 partition which shows in fdisk but it isn't showing as /dev/sdd1 - how can i make it turn up?
[08:53] <vak> theadmin: appox 200 000 files per dir
[08:53] <wise_crypt> !info checkinstall
[08:54] <theadmin> vak: Ah! Meh. That should not matter.
[08:54] <bzrk> strings_: ive read the debian new maintainers manual but i didnt find anything regarding unusual (e.g. non /usr) package building
[08:54] <strings_> bzrk: ah ya not too sure how you would do that with dpkg I dont use it when I complie source by hand.
[08:54] <vak> theadmin: so, I guess there could be some arguments to tune?..
[08:54] <bzrk> strings_: ah ok thx anyway :)
[08:54] <mikeliss> Is anybody familiar with how to change the hostname in /etc/hosts? I tried earlier to the demise of the search engine on my server.
[08:54] <theadmin> vak: "man mkfs"
[08:54] <red2kic> !host | mikeliss
[08:55] <strings_> bzrk: if you are installing to say /opt/foo you dont need dpkg anyways
[08:55] <red2kic> !hostname | mikeliss
[08:55] <strings_> bzrk: unless you plan on making a dpkg for deployment
[08:55] <bzrk> strings_: no the package is to be installed on a couple of machines, so i want a package to reduce the hassle
[08:56] <mikeliss> Thanks red2kic. I tried that method, and I think I messed something up, because my search engine stopped working. My previous /etc/hosts looks like this: 127.0.0.1     localhost localhost.localdomain
[08:56] <mikeliss> 173.203.199.26     slice
[08:56] <mikeliss> So I changed slice to the new name, but that didn't do it at all. Where does the new name go?
[08:57] <TimeRider> cat /etc/hostname
[08:57] <TimeRider> cat /etc/hosts
[08:57] <bzrk> strings_: found it :) you need to edit the dirs file in the debian directory
[08:58] <mikeliss> TimeRider: Not sure I get your meaning? You want me to paste them in?
[08:58] <TimeRider> in console
[08:58] <strings_> bzrk: so change the conf_args in ruls?
[08:58] <TimeRider> first should show your full hostname
[08:58] <strings_> bzrk: err rules
[08:59] <theadmin> I'm unsure whether that's a Karmic or a Lucid support question, but is it possible to get Karmic themes in Lucid and vice-versa?
[08:59] <mikeliss> sudo cat /etc/hosts
[08:59] <mikeliss> 127.0.0.1     localhost localhost.localdomain
[08:59] <mikeliss> 173.203.199.26     slice
[08:59] <mikeliss> % sudo cat /etc/hostname
[08:59] <mikeliss> slice
[08:59] <FloodBot2> mikeliss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:59] <iceroot> bzrk: please dont use crosspositings  in #debian and #ubuntu. i gave you the infos you want in #debian
[09:00] <bzrk> iceroot: i posted here first, just wanted to tell the guy that helped me out i found a solution
[09:00] <bzrk> since noone here knew one
[09:00] <mikeliss> So, I changed slice to the new hostname (example.com), and rebooted. After that, my search engine stopped working.
[09:00] <bobthemilkman> Okay, I have a problem with flash in 9.10 x64 desktop.
[09:00] <bobthemilkman> Somehow I have it installed to firefox and can't remove it.
[09:00] <strings_> bzrk: thanks good to know. I assume you just adjust the rules file?
[09:01] <iceroot> bzrk: how you installed it?
[09:01] <bzrk> strings_: i thought so but the right place to edit was the dirs file
[09:01] <bzrk> iceroot: build is running :)
[09:01] <bzrk> ill install for testing with dpkg and if the path is right it goes into my repo
[09:01] <bobthemilkman> I've checked /usr/local/firefox-addons/plugins, and ~/.mozilla/plugins and any other possible place, and I don't see any reason for it to be installed, but firefox->tools->addons still lists it
[09:02] <mikeliss> theadmin: I haven't tried, but it seems quite possible to me.
[09:02] <iceroot> bzrk: great for testing is dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[09:02] <strings_> bzrk: aslong as you have it sorted out.
[09:02] <bzrk> iceroot: nice, thank you ill try that
[09:02] <AnxiousNut> how do i know how much ram i have from the command line?
[09:02] <mikeliss> TimeRider: Do you have any thoughts about my hostname change?
[09:02] <mikeliss> AnxiousNut: free -m
[09:03] <Wren> Hello, can i ask for some assistance with 9.10? It seems i can't get back into the GUI...
[09:03] <mikeliss> AnxiousNut: You want the second line if you're actually interested in if your ram is full.
[09:03] <sheepz> hello, does anyone know why pastebinit isn't returning a valid url? i'm using a basic "cat file.txt | pastebinit"
[09:03] <TimeRider> didn't read the full conv as just came online, you could always try a reboot
[09:03] <bzrk> iceroot: yay worked, thanks a lot it took me forever to fix that
[09:04] <mikeliss> TimeRider: yeah, that's when things stopped working.
[09:04] <iceroot> bzrk: :) i know the problems with builing packages :)
[09:04] <AnxiousNut> thanks mikeliss, that was more than enough :)
[09:04] <bobthemilkman> Okay, I've figured that problem out (it was actually in /usr/local/mozilla/plugins/).  Does anyone know how to get a USABLE version of flash for x64?
[09:04] <mikeliss> AnxiousNut: No prob.
[09:04] <TimeRider> what happens if you do ping *hostname*
[09:04] <iceroot> bobthemilkman: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:04] <mikeliss> TimeRider: Well, I put it back the way it was before the change and rebooted again, because I couldn't have the search engine down for more than a few seconds.
[09:05] <bobthemilkman> iceroot: that version has several issues with youtube.
[09:05] <Wren> I'm currently running ubuntu 9.10 and cannot get into the GUI, which i believe is caused by an Nvidia Driver, does anyone know of this issue?
[09:05] <iceroot> bobthemilkman: working fine here on 9.10
[09:05] <mikeliss> TimeRider: But...ping 'slice' gives unknown host, while ping localhost gives valid pings.
[09:05] <bobthemilkman> iceroot: With x64?
[09:05] <iceroot> bobthemilkman: sure
[09:05] <TimeRider> you have other files that are tied down to the old hostname
[09:05] <iceroot> bobthemilkman: its the 32bit version which will be installed
[09:05] <bobthemilkman> It causes my firefox to crash when loading certain videos on youtube.
[09:06] <bobthemilkman> Or maybe that was the version that doesn't allow me to click on buttons
[09:06] <mikeliss> TimeRider: I looked at the search engine config. It seems fine, since it points to localhost.
[09:06] <AnxiousNut> how do i get info about my processor, like Pentium or PII?
[09:06] <bobthemilkman> Let me play around for 10 minutes and I'll get back to you which buggy version that was.
[09:06] <iceroot> AnxiousNut: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:06] <mikeliss> AnxiousNut: Whatcha up to there?
[09:08] <AnxiousNut> thanks iceroot :)  and mikeliss i got an old pc, wasnt mine so i wanned to know the specs
[09:08] <Yum|---> mmm
[09:08] <mikeliss> AnxiousNut: htop?
[09:09] <sheepz> nobody?!
[09:09] <AnxiousNut> mikeliss: it's useful. thanks!!
[09:09] <mikeliss> sheepz: no ideas, though I do want to start using that program. Looks very useful.
[09:09] <mikeliss> AnxiousNut: np. htop is the tops.
[09:10] <tp43> .lshw give detailed specs, install it
[09:10] <theadmin> tp43: Since when do you need to install lshw? o_O
[09:10] <AnxiousNut> mikeliss: yeah, a bit more advanced than top
[09:10] <theadmin> AnxiousNut: A bit simplier as well :D In usage, that is
[09:10] <tp43> oh, you do for debian, my bad
[09:11] <Wren> is there a trick i'm missing to deleting files within the terminal? sudo doesn't appear to work in this instance.
[09:11] <azlon> where are the packages i install kept?
[09:11] <iceroot> Wren: command?
[09:11] <mikeliss> Wren: sudo rm -f will often force it, if sudo ain't enough.
[09:11] <Wren> Trying to delete a file within terminal, can't get to a GUI at all, deleting xorg.conf
[09:11] <mikeliss> Wren: But use caution.
[09:12] <azlon> Wren: is the file in use?
[09:12] <sheepz> include -i :P
[09:12] <Wren> rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:12] <tp43> Wren, Leave it
[09:12] <tp43> but those files need to be sudo
[09:12] <Wren> leave it?
[09:12] <iceroot> Wren: use sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[09:12] <tp43> if you wanna edit, you should back it up first
[09:13] <azlon> if i download a package using apt-get, can i just copy it to another system so i dont have to download it on the other system also?
[09:13] <openlive> всем привет
[09:13] <DJones> !ru | openlive
[09:14] <theadmin> openlive: Привет. Русская поддержка у нас в #ubuntu-ru :D А тут инглиш
[09:14] <iceroot> azlon: the package is stored in /var/cache/apt/  also you can use -d for apt-get to just download
[09:14] <Wren> ok, that's fine, but even then it's not actually letting me do that...
[09:14] <mikeliss> Does anybody know how /etc/hosts is supposed to be configured?
[09:14] <strings_> mikeliss: man hosts
[09:14] <azlon> iceroot: i am planning on formatting this system and installing 10.04 but i want to download some packages first. how can i force it to download the lucid packages instead of jaunty?
[09:15] <Wren> I've tried mv, and it states that i don't have permissions, and when attempting to perform the same task with sudo, it states "no such file or category"
[09:15] <red2kic> azlon: There are packages.ubuntu.com
[09:15] <Wren> same exact one, not quite certain here...
[09:15] <tp43> azlon, when you download cd's, you can use them in the /etc/apt/sources.list, and then apt-get them just like you do over the internet
[09:15] <iceroot> azlon: dont mix repos in your system
[09:15] <Guest46395> How to I get someone to put a launchpad bug on the "to-be-fixed-for-lucid" list? <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fetchmail/+bug/566636>
[09:15] <theadmin> packages.ubuntu.com is horrible :/ Hardly could make any sense of what depends on what
[09:16] <azlon> iceroot: i dont want to install them, i just want to download them. i wont have access to the net later when i install 10.04 on the other system. i think i will just try packages.ubuntu.com like red2kic said
[09:16] <dariusvw> yesterday my Ubuntu network cards worked and were called "auto (eth0) and auto (eth1)" in the gui interface. Then we had a powerfailure and are now called "ifupdown (eth0) and ifupdown (eth1)" and do not work, will not even ping. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[09:16] <SiReN> I need to add windows 7 boot manually to grub2 (karmic 9.10)...since i cant add to the grub/menu.lst anyone got any ideas?
[09:16] <azlon> theadmin: thats the same problem i had. i looked at packages.ubuntu.com and had to open like 40 tabs just to make sure i got all the dependencies
[09:16] <red2kic> azlon: You could face problems without dependencies.
[09:17] <red2kic> azlon: Why can't you download Ubuntu Lucid LiveCD?
[09:17] <Wren> Does this make sense?'
[09:17] <iceroot> azlon: the current packages from 10.04 are BETA, so dont download them NOW
[09:17] <azlon> red2kic: i have the Lucid ISO, is that the same thing?
[09:17] <strings_> azlon: use apt-get -d install to download only
[09:17] <strings_> azlon: then get the files fomr /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:17] <Wren> I've restarted numerous times already, and it begins to show the splash screen after grub starts... and then i'm bounced to a terminal (tty1)
[09:17] <tp43> strings_, cool
[09:18] <red2kic> azlon: Yes. Just wait next week for final ISO. The Lucid ISO are updated daily.
[09:18] <azlon> strings_: will that download the dependencies as well? also, will that put them in the same folder as my jaunty debs?
[09:18] <mikeliss> strings_: Do you know about static IP addresses and loopbacks in the hosts file? The man page describes the format, but not the contents.
[09:18] <strings_> azlon: yes
[09:18] <greenmang0> can anybody tell me what's the procedure to install ubuntu 9.10 on IBM System p5 (POWER5 )?
[09:18] <wise_crypt> Wren: startx
[09:18] <iceroot> azlon: dont use apt-get -d on jaunty with 10.04 packages!!
[09:18] <iceroot> azlon: dont mix repos
[09:18] <strings_> mikeliss: 192.168.2.100 foo_host
[09:18] <tp43> strings_, but where do the packages go locally, or are they unpacked right away, and you have to download again to copy over to another pc for install?
[09:18] <theadmin> azlon: Listen to what this guy says. You'll ruin your system.
[09:19] <iceroot> greenmang0: install the ppc version and install it like any other ubuntu
[09:19] <theadmin> azlon: Update to Karmic, then to Lucid.
[09:19] <strings_> mikeliss: all that does is aloow foo_host to resolve to 192.168.2.100
[09:19] <greenmang0> iceroot: yeah... i tried... but not working....
[09:19] <greenmang0> iceroot: i get a strange screen
[09:19] <mikeliss> strings_: Right, I get that, but certain lines need to be there for it to work properly. Therein lies my question.
[09:19] <iceroot> !doesntwork | greenmang0
[09:19] <theadmin> LOL
[09:19] <azlon> theadmin: wait... i think i have Karmic... 9.10 right? its hard to keep track of the names after a while...
[09:20] <Wren> wise_crypt - tried already, no go
[09:20] <iceroot> azlon: lsb_release -a will tell what you are using
[09:20] <theadmin> azlon: Uhm. output of "lsb_release -src" please
[09:20] <Wren> it states "No such file or directory"
[09:20] <tp43> azlon, there is a new one coming in a week or so
[09:20] <iceroot> Wren: output of ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf  please
[09:20] <tp43> lucid is new
[09:20] <azlon> theadmin: 9.10 Karmic...
[09:21] <theadmin> azlon: Then just run "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" and tada.
[09:21] <azlon> tp43: i understand a new one will be released in just a few days but i really need to format my system. should i just install 9.10 again and upgrade in a few days or should i just install the Beta of 10.04 and keep installing updates as they come?
[09:21] <theadmin> or was it release-update... :/ bleh, upgrade, update... what a mess
[09:21] <strings_> mikeliss: get what to work properly lo? aka loopback?
[09:22] <Wren> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 216 2010-04-21 05:08 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:22] <wise_crypt> Wren: what it says with no go? > pastebin
[09:22] <azlon> bah, theadmin: same question to you... if i need to format my machine now should i just install 9.10 and upgrade in a week or should i install the beta of 10.04 and just keep installing the updates as they come out?
[09:22] <Wren> wise_crypt: Don't follow, what do you mean?
[09:23] <mikeliss> strings_: Well, right now, it has 127.0.0.1 going to localhost, and my static IP going to the hostname. I tried changing the hostname that the static IP is pointing to, and that broke things. So I'm trying to avoid that.
[09:23] <theadmin> azlon: RC, not beta. But second one sounds like a better idea
[09:23] <wise_crypt> Wren: you have answer it nevermind
[09:23] <azlon> theadmin, got it. thanks.
[09:23] <theadmin> azlon: Unless you use RAID or Compiz often, because due to certain bugs, with them system becomes hardly usable
[09:23] <azlon> theadmin: actually the reason i am formatting is to recove a RAID-5 (fake-raid)
[09:24] <strings_> mikeliss: what host do you need to resolve?
[09:25] <iceroot> Wren: output of "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old"
[09:25] <azlon> theadmin: whats the deal with RAID in 10.04? something to stay away from for a while?
[09:25] <mikeliss> strings_: I need the current functionality, but with a new name for the machine. Not sure what hosts that involves aside from localhost.
[09:25] <iceroot> Wren: use tab on the shell for completion
[09:25] <Wren> Like i said, even rm or mv on the xorg.conf file doesn't do anything, says i don't have permission, the moment i try sudo it states "-bash: /usr/bin/python: No such file or directory"
[09:25] <theadmin> azlon: Read the rc page on Ubuntu.com, has a clean explanation. Can't remember off top of my head
[09:25] <strings_> mikeliss:  then justa add  a new line for with the ip of the other host and then its hostname
[09:25] <azlon> theadmin: the package i wanted to download was mdadm, thats actually what started this whole mess...
[09:25] <azlon> theadmin: ok, thanks
[09:26] <wise_crypt> Wren: can you log in as root ?
[09:26] <strings_> mikeliss: can you pastbin your hosts file
[09:26] <jk__> hi
[09:26] <zebastian> help, i just recently installed windows 7 and i am on hardy, that is i am dual booting, i have a backup external drive that i use but I want to change it to ntfs so how can i get ubuntu(hardy) to mount read and write ntsf?
[09:26] <strings_> Wren: is try mount -o rw /
[09:26] <iceroot> !who | Wren
[09:26] <theadmin> zebastian: you need ntfsprogs
[09:26] <industrial> How do I make my Desktop Notifications (notifyOSD) NOT go away when Imouse over them? I'd like to be able to click them to eg start an instant message on Pidgin, etc. Like Growl on OSX.
[09:27] <zebastian> theadmin: sudo aptitude install  ntfsprogs ?
[09:27] <theadmin> zebastian: yes
[09:27] <greenmang0> iceroot: http://paste.debian.net/70290/
[09:27] <strings_> Wren: also try  : which sudo
[09:27] <greenmang0> iceroot: this is what i get when i ubuntu boots
[09:27] <mikeliss> strings_: Sure. Not much to it though: http://paste.ubuntu.com/420900/
[09:28] <Wren> Wise_Crypt: No, i can't, i don't know how
[09:28] <BaconZombie> Hey
[09:28] <BaconZombie> I need to reinstall a Laptop today, but with 10.04LTS about to come out will it be easier/cleaner to update from 9.10 or 10.04 Beta2?
[09:28] <obscurant1st> is there any good network managers for gnome othr than wicd and gnome network-manager?
[09:28] <greenmang0> iceroot: it first gives me boot: prompt... when i enter "install video=ofonly"
[09:28] <strings_> mikeliss: ok under slice just put the other host same format
[09:28] <strings_> mikeliss: just swap the ip's and hostname
[09:28] <greenmang0> iceroot: then i get above written on screen
[09:28] <iceroot> obscurant1st: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:28] <iceroot> greenmang0: hm, sorry dont have a clue
[09:29] <h4f> If I have /boot -sda4 should I make sd4 bootable  ?
[09:29] <Wren> strings_: I did that, it didn't seem to do anything, gave a random spitout of a man page
[09:29] <wise_crypt> Wren: heh
[09:29] <obscurant1st> iceroot, there is nothing like that in my instaalation
[09:29] <obscurant1st> :(
[09:29] <mikeliss> strings_: do you know what the second line is about? With my static IP?
[09:29] <strings_> mikeliss: yes that resolve your static ip to your hostname
[09:29] <greenmang0> iceroot: np :)
[09:30] <m--a> How to I get someone to put a launchpad bug on the "to-be-fixed-for-lucid" list? <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fetchmail/+bug/566636>
[09:30] <strings_> mikeliss: to resolve another host you just add its ip and then its hostname
[09:30] <Wren> strings_: which sudo returned no results
[09:30] <wise_crypt> Wren: in tty type exit now you are at login screen type root and type your rootpassword
[09:30] <mikeliss> strings_: Why do I need to keep that other one though?
[09:30] <strings_> Wren: either your paths are messed up or you dont have sudo installed
[09:31] <strings_> Wren: try /usr/sbin/sudo
[09:31] <wise_crypt> Wren: try login as root
[09:31] <wise_crypt> Wren: or locate sudo
[09:31] <obscurant1st> is there any good network managers for gnome othr than wicd and gnome network-manager?, somebody?
[09:31] <strings_> mikeliss: you need to keep the other because services on your machine. will not beable to resolve its own hostname.
[09:32] <Name141> What is the command to do all your important security updates in the command line?  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safeguard ?
[09:32] <nsp> Hi! Does someone know why google on Ubuntu has a Ubuntu checkbox?
[09:32] <Wren> wise_crypt: I've never modified the root account of the ubuntu installation, so it is still set to default, with the sudo command, as a novice i've never performed anything as root without the assistance of the sudo command
[09:32] <shawnboy> Greetings. Remote Desktop Viewer doesn't work for me from Ubuntu to Ubuntu machine. It shows desktop with moveable mouse but shows nothing when I click. Suggestions?
[09:32] <strings_> Wren: boot up in fail safe.
[09:33] <strings_> Wren: what happened when you used /usr/sbin/sudo directly?
[09:33] <mikeliss> strings_: but the old one points to a hostname that I won't be using any more, right?
[09:33] <mikeliss> strings_: shouldn't replacing it work?
[09:34] <abadr> What's the best way to do something like "useradd" that won't fail if the user already exists? It's in a script.
[09:34] <strings_> mikeliss: only you know that is slice your current machine?
[09:34] <Name141> or sudo apt-get upgrade?
[09:34] <wise_crypt> Wren: just login as root are that too hard for you other then that i can't help you with your sudo without you on its llist
[09:34] <Wren> strings_:booting into recovery, never did navigate to that directory
[09:34] <zebastian> theadmin: ok i did that, now what do i have to do to mount ntfs partitions and external drives?
[09:34] <mikeliss> strings_: Yeah.
[09:34] <strings_> mikeliss: if that is your current machine I would keep it.
[09:35] <strings_> mikeliss: at best all you can do is change it to loopback if you want.
[09:35] <SiReN> hey could anyone help me add an entry to grub2 40_custom?
[09:35] <wise_crypt> Wren: or else run sudo su see if you can be root
[09:35] <theadmin> zebastian: Just use uhhh... sudo mount /dev/yourntfspartition /mnt/someplace
[09:36] <theadmin> I suppose.
[09:36] <theadmin> I dunno, fstab does it for me :D
[09:36] <zebastian> theadmin: but if im on gnome, wouldnt it be suposed to mount upon plugin?
[09:37] <theadmin> zebastian: hm. Wait, maybe another package is responsible for mounting as such, but it shoulda be pulled with ntfsprogs... who knows though, I did not use hardy. Try "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[09:37] <pilica_36> I remove from panel (system tray) the icon of sound controller. How to bring it back ?
[09:37] <zebastian> theadmin: whats the dif between that and what i just got?
[09:37] <theadmin> zebastian: ntfsprogs is a metapackage with tools for NTFS device management
[09:38] <theadmin> ntfs-3g is a NTFS device driver.
[09:38] <Wren> wise_crypt: Yep, it's asking for a password when i try to use su, and that's not exactly my password... wish i knew the default one that was used in ubuntu, but alas....
[09:38] <zebastian> theadmin: ntfs-3g is already the newest version.
[09:38] <erUSUL> !sudo | Wren
[09:38] <wise_crypt> Wren: its your pass
[09:38] <strings_> Wren: thats why you want to use fails safe
[09:38] <erUSUL> Wren: in ubuntu there is no root so you can not use "su"
[09:38] <erUSUL> Wren: use sudo
[09:39] <strings_> erUSUL: your missing the whole thread
[09:39] <theadmin> zebastian: *huh* maybe GNOME does not understand what to do :D Dunno, use the CLI to mount. You might of also have to use sudo ntfs-3g somedevice someplace instead of sudo mount somedevice someplace
[09:39] <Kream> Hi all, is there anyone here who is using Munin to monitor their Ubuntu machine?
[09:39] <Axsuul> hey guys, im trying to get sendmail to work, but its not working (specifically, php mail()).. are there any logs i can check?
[09:39] <Wren> ubottu, erUSUL, etc: Can't do anything in sudo, doesn't let me
[09:39] <zebastian> theadmin: but i d0nt know cli
[09:39] <erUSUL> strings_: fair enough. if (s)he enabled root account; is using an unsupported configuration anyway
[09:39] <Axsuul> i tried /var/log/mail.log, etc
[09:39] <iceroot> obscurant1st: i cant imaging you dont have /etc/network/interfaces on ubuntu
[09:39] <wise_crypt> Wren: sudo su/ sudo -s  see if you can be root #
[09:40] <theadmin> zebastian: Just use the command I gave.
[09:40] <strings_> erUSUL: the issue is the user is haveing problems with sudo
[09:40] <iceroot> wise_crypt: dont use sudo su!!
[09:40] <iceroot> wise_crypt: use sudo -i instead
[09:40] <wise_crypt> Wren: sudo -s then see if you can be root #
[09:41] <Wren> wise_crypt: output for "sudo -s" states -bash: /usr/bin/python: No such file or directory
[09:41] <strings_> people stop telling him to use sudo that what his problem is.. he should either /usr/sbin/sudo directly or boot in fail safe
[09:41] <m--a> //msg nickserv ghost m-a
[09:41] <strings_> Wren: try /usr/sbin/sudo
[09:41] <obscurant1st> iceroot, but its not
[09:42] <iceroot> obscurant1st: its a file, not a command
[09:43] <Kream> Hi all, what's a good console app to pastebin stuff ?
[09:43] <erUSUL> !pastebinit
[09:43]  * wise_crypt scratched head
[09:43] <Wren> strings_: when i actually navigate to that directory sudo does not appear to be showing at all
[09:43] <wise_crypt> Wren: just login as root is that too hard for you other then that i can't help you with your sudo without you on its llist
[09:43] <strings_> Wren: ok  then you need to boot in fail safe and . apt-get install sudo
[09:44] <Wren> strings_: and when i type that in, it states that the directory doesn't show
[09:44] <Wren> states that it can't be found
[09:44] <Kream> erUSUL:  pastebinit is not working, I tried that before. just tried it again. it just returns http://www.pastebin.com
[09:44] <Wren> ok, will try
[09:44] <erUSUL> Kream: you have to use an alternative url see manpage. « command | pastebinit -b paste.ubuntu.com »
[09:45] <erUSUL> Kream: you have to use an alternative url; see manpage. « command | pastebinit -b paste.ubuntu.com »
[09:45] <Kream> ok
[09:45] <Shafiei> i got a folder in my hard drive, which contains many .deb files, im bringing from my an other computer with the same platform. form it /var/cache/apt/archive folder.
[09:45] <Kream> erUSUL:  still doesn't work, says unknown website
[09:46] <Shafiei> is there any way for me in order to install all of the packages?
[09:46] <Kream> ahh works you need to give the full url sheesh
[09:46] <erUSUL> Kream: if you add http ? http://paste.ubuntu.com try http://pastebin.ca too
[09:46] <Shafiei> i want something like apt-get to install them regarding to the dependencies
[09:47] <tasslehoff> Any idea how I can merge all clipboards? In gnome-terminal, Ctrl-Y, Shift-Insert and Shift-Ctrl-V all give different pastes.
[09:47] <erUSUL> Shafiei: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/*.deb
[09:48] <DryGrain> What is the bash command to check what disk drives are mounted where?
[09:48] <strings_> DryGrain: mount
[09:48] <Shafiei> erUSUL : it works. thanks
[09:48] <theadmin> DryGrain: mount
[09:48] <erUSUL> DryGrain: cat /proc/mounts
[09:49] <DryGrain> hmm
[09:49] <theadmin> erUSUL: Why would you do that when you can just "mount" o_O
[09:50] <llutz> theadmin: compare the output
[09:51] <theadmin> llutz: Yeah, the output of "mount" makes more sense :P
[09:51] <DryGrain> there is an empty folder in /media/ named LFS. i am trying to mount a partition on an external HD named "LFS" to satisfy preexisting environment variables and whatnot. How do I get rid of the "ghost" /media/LFS/ directory
[09:51] <llutz> DryGrain: delete it
[09:51] <rocket16> PCmanFm does not recognize any file type, and starts executing them. How to make it functional?
[09:52] <Basher91> Drygrain: rm
[09:52] <erUSUL> theadmin: i've heard "mount" can lie in some situations
[09:52] <theadmin> erUSUL: I see.
[09:52] <rocket16> !pcmanfm > rocket16
[09:52] <strings_> erUSUL: mount gets its data from /proc/mounts ::
[09:52] <DryGrain> okay
[09:53] <DryGrain> so now when I plug this USB drive in, it should mount as LFS
[09:53] <DryGrain> wish me luck :)
[09:53] <erUSUL> strings_: theadmin i read it in the lkml from kernel hackers. i trust they know what they where saying ... :)
[09:53] <llutz> oO
[09:53] <opiskelija> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woySeSNBL3o
[09:54] <DryGrain> aha!
[09:54] <DryGrain> thanks a heap folks
[09:54] <DryGrain> it worked
[09:54] <strings_> erUSUL: nvm mount uses mtab so ya /proc/mounts is more accurate but not by much
[09:54]  * DryGrain laughs evilly and rubs hands together and gets back to his linuxfromscratch project
[09:55] <theadmin> YIKES. Deleting the mount point while device is mounted nearly erased some important data o_O Good that i managed to stop it on time
[09:55] <Basher91> lol
[09:55] <llutz> theadmin: where does your nick come from? ;)
[09:56] <theadmin> llutz: My nick? Well, I dunno, made it up long ago :D
[09:56] <rocket16> I wish to make my Pen-Drive Ubuntu-only. Is it advicable to format it to ext3 or ext4? I really hate NTFS and FAT32.
[09:57] <theadmin> llutz: Originally wanted the nick i use basically everywhere (13thSlayer), but freenode wouldn't eat a nick starting with a number
[09:57] <strings_> rocket16: ext3 over ext4
[09:57] <strings_> rocket16: but ya ext3 is fine
[09:57] <rocket16> strings_: Thanks, :) But isn't ext4 a bit more advanced?
[09:58] <Kream> ok my ubuntu slice did not come with a running cron, which cron should I install?
[09:58] <Basher91> rocket16: somewhat but it has memory leakage problems if I recall correctly
[09:58] <strings_> rocket16: yes, but not for a thumb drive. journalling slows it down and costs more writes.
[09:58] <rocket16> Basher91: strings_ Thanks to both of you, for help, :)
[09:59] <llutz> theadmin: just kidding, "admin" implies "i should know what i'm doing"  in opposite to [10:55:02] <theadmin> YIKES....
[09:59] <theadmin> llutz: :P I usually DO know what I'm doing, it's just that I'm kinda sleepy.
[09:59] <andrew__> I got a box up saying 'update distro', so I did
[10:00] <Basher91> logout
[10:00] <Basher91> exit
[10:00] <andrew__> It said it needed to download 1000 packages :s
[10:00] <Basher91> darnit forgot the slash *facepalm*
[10:00] <theadmin> Basher91: you want "/part"
[10:00] <rocket16> Friends, one more thing. That is, Ubuntu 9.10 installs in ext4 by default, and so I just used the entire Harddrive for Ubuntu-ext4. But, would it be faster if I had switched to ext3?
[10:00] <erUSUL> rocket16: i would use the jornaless ext2 for a pendrive
[10:00] <andrew__> And now it's installing all of them :/
[10:00] <Basher91> theadmin: you aren't the only tired one :P
[10:00] <rocket16> erUSUL: Sure, thanks,
[10:00] <erUSUL> rocket16: no ext4 is faster then ext3
[10:00] <strings_> rocket16: ext4 is fine on a harddive for thumdrive you want to use ext3. but you dont have too
[10:01] <rocket16> erUSUL: Ah, reallt thanks. I was thinking of reinstalling, :). Thanks erUSUL and strings_
[10:01] <rocket16> * really
[10:01] <geekphreak> hello all
[10:01] <erUSUL> hi
[10:01] <theadmin> strings_: ext2 would be better for a flashdrive, not much difference between 3 and 4
[10:02] <geekphreak> erUSUL: howdy :)
[10:02] <strings_> theadmin: I agree
[10:03] <bradpitt> hi. why on web browser i can only see Champs �lys�es instead of Champs-Élysées?
[10:03] <daniel_tp> hi, i use a gnome panel applet to show me the cpu usage, also want memory usage? any suggestions? whats the applet name?
[10:03] <Wren> Ok, i'm going to sound like a fool, but page 5 in google and i'm getting annoyed, how do i get to failsafe mode?
[10:04] <theadmin> bradpitt: Maybe a bad encoding
[10:04] <strings_> daniel_tp: you can config the applet to show memory too
[10:04] <geekphreak> Wren: hello
[10:04] <strings_> Wren: at the grub screen select fail safe.
[10:04] <erUSUL> Wren: in the grub menu should be for each kernel aviable a recovery mode option
[10:04] <wise_crypt> Wren: heh
[10:04] <geekphreak> Wren: in login screen , where you enter name/password choose session as filsafe
[10:04] <bradpitt> theadmin, yes maybe, and what can i do to fix it?
[10:04] <geekphreak> wise_crypt: yo
[10:04] <theadmin> bradpitt: Try switching it around (for Firefox, it's in View - Character encoding)
[10:05] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: heh
[10:05] <bradpitt> theadmin, ok lemme try
[10:05] <daniel_tp> strings_, i tried that... there is no such option for this applet
[10:05] <Wren> Ah, it's actually marked in grub as "(recovery mode)"?
[10:05] <geekphreak> recovery ?
[10:05] <daniel_tp> strings_, i use CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor 2.28.0
[10:05] <Wren> or is it actually past grub?
[10:06] <strings_> daniel_tp: ah try the system monitor applet
[10:06] <rocket16> Hmm, will Linux XFS be nicer than ext2-4 in Pendrive?
[10:06] <geekphreak> Wren:  where you enter your login name, see below says session type gnome
[10:06] <geekphreak> Wren:  change that to failsafe
[10:06] <geekphreak> Wren: why do you want failsafe, if i may ask?
[10:07] <daniel_tp> strings_, a yes thanks, didn't see that one
[10:08] <erUSUL> rocket16: overkillw
[10:08] <geekphreak> wise_crypt:  :d
[10:08] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: let it be he is want to mess the xorg.conf but dont have sudo so someone ask him to failsafe and apt-get install sudo again
[10:08] <erUSUL> rocket16: any journaled filesystem is bad for a pendrive becouse the journal aread will burn out quickly
[10:08] <rocket16> erUSUL: Oh,
[10:09] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: let it be Wren  want to mess the xorg.conf but dont have sudo so someone ask him to failsafe and apt-get install sudo again
[10:09] <erUSUL> rocket16: you can use ext2; udf or maybe ext4 without journal
[10:09] <geekphreak> wise_crypt:  ok
[10:09] <Guest32900> where an i find a usb creator that doesnt only do ubuntu iso?
[10:09] <bradpitt> theadmin, lol nothing changed. thanks anyway :p
[10:09] <erUSUL> !unetbootin | Guest32900
[10:10] <Wren> geekphreak: when i get to a login it provides me with an error message regarding a number of issues it's having with an Nvidia driver, currently my trouble is with regards to a trouble i'm having getting into a GUI at all. the trouble is that i can't get in as root, and sudo isn't working at command line
[10:10] <rocket16> erUSUL: Thanks, I am willing to use ext4 without Journal, but how to do it?
[10:10] <strings_> Guest32900: unetbootin
[10:10] <rocket16> erUSUL: I am trying with Disk-Utility in Ubuntu, can it do that?
[10:10] <geekphreak> Wren:  good luck then :d
[10:10] <Wren> so now failsafe isn't working....
[10:10] <Wren> sigh...
[10:11] <dekroning> how can i default install Ubuntu with "fluxbox" instead of Gnome ?
[10:11] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: lol
[10:11] <vineetha> hi
[10:12] <erUSUL> rocket16: is experimental feature; seems to be not aviable in mke2fs of karmic
[10:12] <rocket16> erUSUL: Oh, I made it ext2. Thanks.
[10:12] <rocket16> erUSUL: Thanks, :D
[10:13] <trijntje> Is there a way to make conky display the temperature of my ATI card? I found nothing usefull on the internet
[10:14] <geekphreak> rocket16: what are you messing with again ?
[10:14] <rocket16> geekphreak: Lol, I am just formatting the PenDrive, and making it Ubuntu-only, :D
[10:15] <geekphreak> :p
[10:19] <glasstetter> df -h
[10:19] <glasstetter> hallo
[10:20] <abdul> what is the command used to copy all files execpt one in a folder
[10:22] <suigeneris> abdul cp has no exception afaik
[10:22] <rocket16> abdul: You can use "cp *.* location" to move all files, or "*.extension" to copy only one file type, with special extension.
[10:22] <theadmin> suigeneris: How about a "for" loop with some crazy sed combo...
[10:22] <llutz> abdul: rsync
[10:22] <SiReN> after much confusion (on my part) I finally managed to add my windows 7 boot to grub (installed on another drive)...but when i attempt to update grub to grub 2 my settings are not carried over...is there a way to do this? *complete noob to ubuntu, but definitely liking it*
[10:22] <rocket16> abdul: Also, you can use Conduit Synchronizer for some basic uses.
[10:23] <AzAriaN> hello, someone know if "toutou linux" have a channel on this server?
[10:24] <abdul> i am having a-f files in a directory and i need only to copy a-e files what i have to do
[10:24] <llutz> abdul: cp -r [abcde]* dest/
[10:24] <wise_crypt> !grub | SiReN
[10:26] <abdul> llutz: it is ok for few files, if i am having more no what i have to do.
[10:27] <geekphreak> llutz:  can we use something like OR |  in ls or cp / mv?
[10:27] <llutz> abdul: just adjust the placeholder
[10:27] <erUSUL> geekphreak: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/glob
[10:28] <geekphreak> erUSUL: thanks bud
[10:28] <erUSUL> geekphreak: use extended globs maybe
[10:28] <llutz> geekphreak: easier with zsh than bash/dash
[10:28] <rocket16> abdul: First, move f files to another folder using "mv f*.* location" command. Then, you'll have only a-e files. Now copy all contents and move them to new location using GUI. Now, move back the f files to the location.
[10:29] <geekphreak> llutz: i mostly use bash, will check out zsh
[10:29] <abdul> rocket16: do you think that it is good procedure to follow up
[10:29] <andrew__> Why is 9.10 doing a distro update, but reinstalling ALL packages?
[10:30] <rocket16> abdul: If not, try anything else. I only mentioned an easier one.
[10:30] <llutz> easier one  rofl
[10:30] <azlon> hrmm
[10:30] <rocket16> llutz: Lol, whu "rofl"?
[10:30] <rocket16> * why
[10:30] <azlon> running a live version of 10.04... not sure if i like Empathy
[10:30] <andrew__> Blahh, nobody knows
[10:31] <rocket16> azlon: I like Pidgin, more than Empathy.
[10:31] <geekphreak> andrew__:  reinstalling already installed packages?
[10:31] <andrew__> geekphreak: Yes :/
[10:31] <Odo> kiranerys
[10:31] <andrew__> geekphreak: I just saw it reinstall firefox even..
[10:31] <rocket16> andreww__: Because the newer Distro uses newer versions of files.
[10:31] <azlon> rocket16: agreed... pretty sure im going to uninstall this and install pidgin
[10:31] <lukefeil> andrew__: does he load them or take them from cache?
[10:31] <andrew__> rocket16: Oh, ok .. Odd. Thanks
[10:31] <geekphreak> andrew__: they are upgrading it relax :)
[10:32] <andrew__> The problem is I need to use a vm, and virtualbox won't work for now
[10:32] <geekphreak> urgh vm's
[10:32] <rocket16> azlon: Sure, this is mainly because Pidgin is extendible, while Empathy has no Plugin manager.
[10:32] <andrew__> I need to use Visual Studio :/
[10:32]  * geekphreak hats wubi / vm's
[10:32] <geekphreak> hates*
[10:32] <azlon> rocket16: exactly...
[10:33] <rocket16> andrew__: That can't be natively used in Linux, but you can try Gambus2 for VB, and also, Mono Development can allow you to use VB#
[10:33] <andrew__> rocket16: I'm using virtualbox with xp guest
[10:34] <andrew__> This is a piece of coursework, so I prefer to use vs
[10:34] <jquiterio> Bom dia !
[10:34] <rocket16> andrew__: Nice, then it'll work.
[10:34] <andrew__> It does :p
[10:34] <rocket16> andrew__: But the RAM will get shared. So, I think better to dual boot.
[10:34] <jquiterio> What the link can I get the ubuntu 10.04 ?
[10:34] <andrew__> It just refuses to open while this update is going on
[10:35] <geodatman> hi
[10:35] <BRc> hey all
[10:35] <rocket16> jquiterio: It is not yet stable or released. But you can get the Beta, but there might be bugs.
[10:35] <BRc> anyone experience freeze up when loading ccsm
[10:35] <rocket16> !hi | BRc
[10:35] <DryGrain> D:
[10:35] <DryGrain> http://linuxfromscratch.pastebin.com/MqYFPxv0
[10:36] <DryGrain> what shall i do?
[10:36] <gavin6000> hello all
[10:36] <andrew__> Mehhh, I wish I hadn't updated to 10.4 for now
[10:36] <rocket16> !hi | gavin6000
[10:37] <gavin6000> what is wrong with ubuntu 10.4?
[10:37] <theadmin> gavin6000: ?!
[10:37] <geekphreak> gavin6000:  #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[10:37] <jquiterio> rocket16: i think this... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[10:37] <Younder> DryGrain, You have a corrupted file.. Seems transmission has terminated before the completer file was transmitted. So download the file again.
[10:37] <rocket16> andrew__: Don't worry, within 6 days, Lucid will be released. Also, then the fixes will help you, since they'll fix things up.
[10:38] <rocket16> !lucid | gavin6000
[10:38] <gavin6000> 10.4 only beta version? Thanks. Think I'll wait before upgrade.
[10:38] <rocket16> jquiterio: I won't force you, but I think better to wait for a few days, since Lucid is not stable yet.
[10:39] <rocket16> gavin6000: Exactly,
[10:39] <DryGrain> Thanks Younder
[10:39] <BRc> anyone experience windows freez up cant drag or drop anything
[10:39] <BRc> in compiz
[10:39] <jquiterio> rocket16: thank you
[10:39] <DryGrain> gavin6000, it is released stable later this month
[10:39] <Younder> That said when it is released it will be a basisis for the supported ubuntu so it is likely to be more stable than Carmic.. Never the less holding back a month or so until the bugs have been sorted out has been a good idea in the past..
[10:39] <rocket16> BRc: Yes, that is a Problem related to Special Effects. Did you turn Reflections on?
[10:40] <muelli> heya. I accidentally my /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf. Now I want to restore the default one. Neither apt-get install --reinstall not dpkg-reconfigure make the file reappear. How would I do that then?
[10:40] <rocket16> jquiterio: My pleasure
[10:40] <BRc> reflections..?? let me c
[10:40] <jquiterio> :)
[10:40] <Younder> There's an article on ubuntu 10 on Linux magazine.
[10:41] <dariusvw> yesterday my Ubuntu network cards worked and were called "auto (eth0) and auto (eth1)" in the gui interface. Then we had a powerfailure and are now called "ifupdown (eth0) and ifupdown (eth1)" and do not work, will not even ping. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:41] <BRc> rocket16:  its ticked but cannot move or drag windows
[10:41] <BRc> or drag anythin
[10:41] <rocket16> Brc: Untick it, and see whether it works or not
[10:42] <dan_> hi
[10:42] <rocket16> !hi | dan_
[10:42] <BRc> still the same cant drag anything..
[10:42] <azlon> if i install samba, can i share my files from my ubuntu ext2 RAID to my windows 7 machines over the network?
[10:43] <industrial> How do I make my Desktop Notifications (notifyOSD) NOT go away when Imouse over them? I'd like to be able to click them to eg start an instant message on Pidgin, etc. Like Growl on OSX.
[10:43] <BRc> rocket16: still the same
[10:43] <Younder> azlon, yes
[10:43] <rocket16> BRc: Try this, press Alt+F2, and type "gtk-window-decorator" without quotes
[10:43] <hateball> industrial: They dont work like that, they are "just" notifications
[10:44] <theadmin> azlon: Yes
[10:44] <rocket16> BRc: Did it work?
[10:45] <BRc> nope
[10:45] <BRc> grr
[10:45] <rocket16> BRc: Ok, try Alt+F2, and use "metacity --replace" without quotes
[10:46] <rocket16> BRc: Did it work now??
[10:46] <azlon> theadmin: i am currently running a live version of 10.04 and using apt-get -d install to download mdadm and samba, can i get these files from my system later by just plugging in this thumb drive?
[10:46] <rocket16> BRc: ??
[10:47] <theadmin> azlon: uuuh... o_O dunno
[10:47] <azlon> theadmin: ok
[10:47] <rocket16> BRc: Did the command work there?
[10:47] <gavin6000> Hello. I am using irssi for the first time and it seems a handy IRC client. Anyways, time to get back to work.
[10:47] <theadmin> o_O looks funny when rendered as LaTeX :D
[10:47] <BRc> no it didnt
[10:48] <BRc> got to many windows open..
[10:48] <rocket16> BRc: I see, can you open Terminal?
[10:48] <BRc> ok done
[10:48] <rocket16> BRc: If so, type "sudo apt-get install emerald emerald-themes" and then "compiz --replace -c emerald &"
[10:49] <rocket16> BRc: I think, you are using Compiz Fusion. If so, this will install Window Decorations from Emerald.
[10:49] <red2kic> !emerald
[10:49] <azlon> rocket16: what is the difference between emerald and compiz?
[10:49] <azlon> i guess that answers my question
[10:50] <BRc> yes ur quite right
[10:50] <rocket16> azlon: Emerald is the Window decorator, while Compiz handles special effects
[10:50] <BRc> compiz fusion iam using
[10:50] <red2kic> azlon: Compiz is a window manager. emerald is a window decorator.
[10:50] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, I am trying to write a udev rule which executes a script and sets some environment variables which will be used in the script. The udev rule is on http://pastebin.com/B3rnr8Vh
[10:50] <rocket16> BRc: I see. I think turning off Desktop effects might help. Your Drivers are nit compatible with the ED effects I suppose. Happened to me in 9.04
[10:51] <SmokeyD> but $DEVNUM and $BUSNUM aren't available in the script. Any clues?
[10:52] <geirha> azlon: When you do apt-get install (w/wo -d), the packages are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/  You can simply copy all deb-files from there to a memory stick. Otherwise I'd recommend you look up apt-medium.
[10:52] <YuKy> hey guys im not much of a computer person i am looking for some help i want to install windows on my laptop but it says hit enter to install windows so i did that then i come up and said there was no hard disk plugged in or any think
[10:52] <theadmin> is removing that (/var/cache/apt/archives/*) safe?
[10:52] <azlon> geirha: thanks!
[10:53] <theadmin> YuKy: We don't support windows here
[10:53] <red2kic> !windows | YuKy
[10:53] <rocket16> azlon: Also, to install several .deb files at once, use this command "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[10:53] <YuKy> th
[10:53] <YuKy> x
[10:54] <geirha> theadmin: Yes, though use «sudo apt-get clean» to delete them.
[10:54] <rocket16> BRc: Any result?
[10:55] <azlon> rocket16: that will install everything in my /var/cache/apt/archives/  ?
[10:55] <BRc> ok how is ubuntu 10.4 any good
[10:55] <Name141> I have been waiting on "Preparing to replace doc-base 0.8.7 (using .../doc-base_0.8.7ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
[10:55] <Name141> " , for about 5 mins now.
[10:55] <ikonia> !lucid | BRc
[10:56] <Name141> anything I can do besides just wait?
[10:56] <BRc> rocket16: no go darn it
[10:56] <iceroot> Name141: looking at top with it is still running
[10:56] <minjoo> Hello
[10:56] <rocket16> azlon: No no, first open Terminal, then use cd command to move to the folder where your .deb files are there. Then use that command to install .deb packages in that folder there.
[10:56] <BRc> unticked evertyhing.. and still the same
[10:56] <Name141> iceroot: 18414 root      20   0 34756  31m 1560 R 91.5 10.0   9:44.28 scrollkeeper-up
[10:57] <azlon> rocket16: ok, got it
[10:57] <Name141> iceroot: that seems to be what is taking up the CPU
[10:57] <iceroot> Name141: yes
[10:57] <Name141> iceroot: So it's still trying to install it?
[10:58] <azlon> rocket16: i am saving all these command to my tomboy so i never have to ask again... just want to make sure i write down the correct commands... thanks!
[10:58] <Name141> iceroot: or is it hung ?
[10:58] <iceroot> Name141: still running
[10:59] <Name141> iceroot: Ok.
[10:59] <geekphreak> azlon:  good idea :)
[10:59] <rocket16> BRc: I see. Compiz is really a problem some times. I think, restarting Graphics and turning effects on will help. First use in Terminal "killall -user username" (without quotes, where username is your username). It will log you out, and take you back to the login screen. Login again, and then right-click on Desktop, select "change desktop background" and then select Visual effects Tab, and select "No effects"
[10:59] <Name141> iceroot: how long should I wait till I give up on it ?
[10:59] <iceroot> Name141: dont know your system
[10:59] <rocket16> azlon: Sure, the command is "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" without quotes
[10:59] <abdul> i am having a directory named "example" in that i am having lots of files and other directories,i want to copy all files except few to other destination.can you help me with the command
[10:59] <azlon> when i try to download some files (like samba) from apt-get i get hash sum mismatch... how do i fix this?
[10:59] <Name141> iceroot: P2 450 MHz
[10:59] <iceroot> azlon: sudo apt-get update
[11:00] <iceroot> Name141: then just wait
[11:00] <azlon> iceroot: i just did that about 5 mins ago
[11:00] <azlon> running it again, hold on
[11:00] <geekphreak> Name141: man thats an old system, make yourself some coffee
[11:00] <Name141> iceroot; it finally is continuing the other updates
[11:00] <Name141> geekphreak: I had it about 12 years
[11:00] <geekphreak> :)
[11:01] <rocket16> azlon: Check here, it might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=756864
[11:01] <moetunes> abdul: I would use a for loop in bash for that
[11:02] <rocket16> BRc: Did you try that?
[11:02] <abdul> moetunes: can u make it clear
[11:03] <rocket16> BRc: If no result, use this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=485863
[11:03] <Name141> geekphreak: I'm just gonna use it to run eggdrops, and stuff.
[11:04] <moetunes> abdul: for f in `ls /example | grep -v first-file-not-wanted | grep -v second-file-not-wanted`; do [ -f $f ] && cp -v $f /path/to/move/to; done
[11:06] <girisha> hi
[11:08] <theadmin> looool
[11:08] <theadmin> Has anyone tried this? Alt+F2, type "free the fish" without quotes, enter
[11:08] <moetunes> nope
[11:08] <Avasz> is there data recovery application in ubuntu?
[11:08] <rocket16> theadmin: GREAT!
[11:08] <iceroot> theadmin: we dont need "loool" or other useless stuff here
[11:09] <rocket16> theadmin: BRAVO! Thanks, :)
[11:09] <iceroot> theadmin: to kill the fish you have to restart gnome-panel
[11:09] <Avasz> moetunes: nope for me?
[11:09] <theadmin> iceroot: o_O XD
[11:09] <moetunes> Avasz: nope not nope for you sorry
[11:09] <HardDisk> ^_^
[11:10] <BRc> rocket16:  thx again
[11:10] <Galerien> Hi all
[11:10] <Avasz> so.. which is  a good data recovery applicationin ubuntu
[11:10] <rocket16> BRc: Ah, did it work?
[11:11] <BRc> nope..but ill keep those things u said ..and ill start again
[11:11] <Galerien> ? ph8 owned :D
[11:11] <rocket16> BRc: Sure, :)
[11:11] <bazhang> !undelete | Avasz
[11:11] <BRc> the effects works ...but windows freezes........
[11:12] <Galerien> Just wondering if anyone new an ubuntu/nokia application that would allow me to send SMS or synchronize my contacts between my computer and my N95 8go
[11:14] <Galerien> any one?
[11:14] <DryGrain> Younder: http://linuxfromscratch.pastebin.com/qcRzXTSn
[11:14] <DryGrain> something's fishy
[11:14] <DryGrain> :(
[11:14] <Reckon> !ask | Galerien
[11:15] <bazhang> DryGrain, is that lfs?
[11:15] <moetunes> Reckon: Galerien did ask - look up
[11:15] <rocket16> theadmin: That trick works in another way too, :) Just right-click a blank area on Gnome-Panel, and select "About Panel", then quicktly hit "f" for three times
[11:15] <DryGrain> It is
[11:15]  * Reckon blushes
[11:15] <moetunes> heh
[11:15] <bazhang> DryGrain, try their support channel then
[11:16] <Galerien> Reckon: Just wondering if anyone new an ubuntu/nokia application that would allow me to send SMS or synchronize my contacts between my computer and my N95 8go
[11:16] <DryGrain> I am bazhang, however the problem is specifically with a tarball that wont unpack
[11:16] <bazhang> #lfs-support on irc.linuxfromscratch.org DryGrain
[11:16] <G_A_C> Galerien: http://www.gnokii.org/ possibly, although I know nothing about its device support.
[11:17] <Galerien> Thanks G_A_C
[11:17] <DryGrain> I'm there already bazhang
[11:18] <rocket16> theadmin: Lol, try this one:  "gegls from outer space" in Alt+F2, a funny game
[11:19] <theadmin> rocket16: haha
[11:19] <Galerien> What's with ph8??
[11:19] <rocket16> theadmin: :D
[11:19] <miguel000> how do I set up my wlan connection? its wpa2 secured
[11:19] <manohar> can i install oracle using apt-get install in Ubuntu 8.04?
[11:20] <Wren> is there a way to force ubuntu to load with default graphics drivers?
[11:20] <miguel000> the icon in the upper left says : does not manage device or something like this. howeer it worked in the very beginning
[11:20] <Younder> DryGrain, try using ncftp instad of wget which is mor http
[11:20] <miguel000> upper right
[11:21] <DryGrain> ncftp? any arguments? or just like wget?
[11:22] <alien260> miguel000: try restarting ur networking for terminal
[11:22] <moetunes> Wren: at the login hit   ctrl+alt+f2   and login then   sudo mv -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak   then hit alt+f7
[11:22] <DryGrain> ah i'll have to apt-get ncftp
[11:22] <DryGrain> thanks younder
[11:23] <miguel000> ok
[11:23] <Galerien> G_A_C: Doesn't work with my phone, any other idea?
[11:23] <nsp> Hi! Does someone know why google on Ubuntu has a Ubuntu checkbox?
[11:24] <Xeross_> How can I make a USB 10.04 install automatically boot instead of that it asks if I want to try it or install it ?
[11:26] <Name141> Oh yeah, is there something to install to control the systems audio over the terminal ?
[11:26] <tarelerulz> Does Ubuntu 10.04 have ARM audio support inside a 3gp container?
[11:26] <Name141> I think I used to have alsa-mixer or something
[11:26] <Galerien> Did anyone tried the 10.04 yet? How stable is it?
[11:27] <Xeross_> Galerien: Tried it before, using it again now, seems to work pretty nicely and boots like lightning
[11:27] <moetunes> Xeross_: the try it or install it is the live one - it gives an icon on the desktop to install hence the :install" part
[11:27] <Galerien> Xeross_: How long do you need to boot? (and what's your processor?)
[11:28] <Xeross_> Galerien: Well I don't know the exact boot times but it's a lot faster then 9.10 and that's on a persistant usb install
[11:28] <moetunes> s/:install/"install"
[11:28] <Xeross_> moetunes: Using it as a persistent USB install
[11:28] <manohar> can i install oracle using apt-get install command in Ubuntu 8.04
[11:28] <Galerien> Xeross_: ok, 9.10 was already faster than 9.04... good news
[11:29] <moetunes> Xeross_: you're not - you've just put the installation on the usb
[11:29] <azlon> i just plugged in a HDD via USB but it isnt showing up... how can i find it so i can mount it?
[11:29] <Dan_E> is it ok to upgrade to 10.04 now and will my files i have on 9.10 still be there?
[11:29] <Xeross_> moetunes: With a persistent casper-rw
[11:29] <moetunes> k
[11:30] <Galerien> azlon: you need to use the "mount" sheel command
[11:30] <Galerien> shell*
[11:30] <bilalakhtar> manohar: No you can't
[11:30] <Galerien> open a console
[11:30] <ash-2plus1> Anyone know anything about segfaults in samba? i have replaced the memory and even reloaded the machine.
[11:30] <manohar> bilalakhtar: then how can i?
[11:30] <boiledfish> test
[11:30] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[11:30] <bilalakhtar> manohar: Do you want to use it with php?
[11:31] <bilalakhtar> manohar: or standalone?
[11:31] <Galerien> azlon: and tipe "sudo mount /dev/sd" and press the tabulation several times
[11:31] <azlon> Galerien: yes, but i need to "mount /dev/[somethinghere]/ /media/blah/"... how do i get the something here part
[11:31] <raddy> What is the upgrade path from RC to final?
[11:31] <manohar> standalone
[11:31] <azlon> Galerien: when i do "sudo fdisk -l" i dont see it
[11:31] <Xeross_> moetunes: Any idea ?
[11:31] <Galerien> azlon: er...
[11:31] <bilalakhtar> manohar: then you will have to download it from oracle website
[11:31] <manohar> ok
[11:31] <Galerien> azlon: is it powered up?
[11:31] <bilalakhtar> manohar: you need oracle 10g express edition or 11g?
[11:32] <azlon> Galerien: yeah, i can hear it spin up when i plug it in
[11:32] <Galerien> azlon: (no offense, it's just happend :D)
[11:32] <manohar> bilalakhtar: any one can do
[11:32] <manohar> bilalakhtar: i tried to download it
[11:32] <bilalakhtar> manohar: what is your ram capacity?
[11:32] <moetunes> Xeross_: wasn't paying attention - from your first post with the install bit you haven't installed it...
[11:32] <azlon> Galerien: and it's not just this one drive, its all of my USB drives... :|
[11:32] <manohar> 512 MB
[11:32] <bilalakhtar> manohar: use express edition then
[11:32] <Galerien> azlon: How... then that would be a problem of drivers I guess
[11:33] <DryGrain> Younder, thanks! ncftp worked like a charm :)
[11:33] <Xeross_> moetunes: Why would I need to install it after setting it up as a persistent USB, wouldn't that make it a normal install instead of a usb install with additional startup scripts
[11:33] <abdul> i am having a directory named "example" in that i am having lots of files and other directories,i want to copy all files except few to other destination.can you help me with the command
[11:33] <bilalakhtar> manohar: go to http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/xe/htdocs/102xelinsoft.html
[11:33] <Galerien> azlon: And I can't help you with that, never had this kind of troubles
[11:33] <azlon> Galerien:  hrmm... maybe its this stupid IDE>USB adapter i have... let me try something else... brb
[11:33] <Galerien> azlon: IDE, inlove of the 90' ? :D
[11:33] <bilalakhtar> manohar: there click the western european debian package download
[11:34] <dan_> exit
[11:34] <moetunes> Xeross_: why would you think it is a persistant install if it gives the option to install ?
[11:34] <azlon> Galerien: lol, actually these two drives are ones that i just found from like 2003, but yeah... almost the 90's. i'm sure i have some sweet pron on here... need to get it off and check it out!
[11:35] <manohar> bilalakhtar: i tried to download oracle 11g from oracle website but is closed my d4x downloader window
[11:35] <bilalakhtar> manohar: According to your RAM capacity, download 10g express edition
[11:35] <Galerien> azlon: Well, I have an IDE myself (first drive) and I never had problem with it... so, sorry :x
[11:35] <abdul> plz help me
[11:36] <manohar> cant 11g b ok?
[11:36] <bilalakhtar> manohar: 11g will take up a lot of ram
[11:36] <manohar> ok
[11:36] <Xeross_> moetunes: Because I set it up that way in the Startup Disk Creator, and it saves my settings and files
[11:36] <moetunes> Xeross_: k
[11:37] <Galerien> manohar: Can't you use mysql? It's easy to install...
[11:37] <manohar> i know its easy to install mysql
[11:37] <manohar> but i want oracle
[11:37] <bilalakhtar> manohar: MySQL is very fast also
[11:38] <Galerien> manohar: ok, just saying...
[11:38] <Xeross_> moetunes: It seems to slow the startup down a bit, and afaik it should just boot into the env automatically :/
[11:39] <Sia--> monteith, use other than mysql, because mysql is oracle project now
[11:39] <Sia--> postSQL
[11:39] <manohar> i am trying to download oracle
[11:40] <alien260> manohar: have  you read this - http://www.oracle.com/technology/obe/11gr1_db/install/dbinst/dbinst.htm
[11:40] <manohar> alien260: no let me read it
[11:40] <moetunes> Xeross_: if it gives the option to install at boot time there's something not right afaik - what I can't say
[11:40] <bilalakhtar> manohar: on http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E11882_01/install.112/e10840/pre_install.htm#CHDCEBFF oracle says you need 1GB ram for 11g
[11:41] <oik> Hi. I'm not on a Ubuntu system, but a Linux system and I want to try the RC from a USB drive. How do I install it (I don't have access to usb-creator or such).
[11:41] <bazhang> oik, unetbootin
[11:41] <Xeross_> moetunes: Any place I can ask for help on the matter, is there something like an ubuntu dev channel for pre-release versions ?
[11:41] <manohar> bilalakhtar: ok
[11:42] <moetunes> Xeross_: there is #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[11:42] <bilalakhtar> manohar: and somewhere else on the oracle site (i dont know where) oracle says 512 MB ram is recommended for 10g express
[11:42] <moetunes> !lucid
[11:42] <oik> bazhang: thanks
[11:43] <bilalakhtar> manohar: I will have to leave now. Ask for help from somebody else on this channel
[11:43] <manohar> ok thank u for ur help till now
[11:44] <alien260> :)
[11:45] <Travis-42> after working since install, sound in my ubuntu 9.10 have suddenly stopped working. Is there may a way to reset it or restart it?
[11:45] <Xeross_> moetunes: thanks
[11:45] <moetunes> k
[11:46] <alien260> Travis-42: if ur using alsa then run this - sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[11:47] <oik> Travis-42: it is very likely that some preference in PulseAudio has changed, generally the Output setting makes a computer speechless. Look at the sound preferences.
[11:48] <fierman> hi
[11:48] <fierman> short q:
[11:48] <fierman> is it possible to use apt-mirror to have 2 different repo's on one machine ?
[11:48] <joebike> i'm trying to set up source control, will i run into any problems if I use apache on my local and then nginx for my production environment?
[11:48] <Sia--> Travis-42, use gamix and try to edit the volums, the defualt one from ubuntu isn't the same from gnome
[11:48] <joebike> both on ubuntu
[11:49] <debi_man> \join #ubuntu
[11:49] <moetunes> joebike: if noone here knows someone in #ubuntu-server might
[11:49] <Dan_E> update manager tells me 10.04 is available, is it ok to upgrade?
[11:49] <moetunes> debi_man: you're already there :]
[11:50] <debi_man> lol im still learning
[11:50] <moetunes> heh
[11:50] <ovov78> hello
[11:50] <geekphreak> heh
[11:51] <moetunes> debi_man:  it is / not \ for /join
[11:51] <ovov> 大家好 啊
[11:52] <Sia--> moetunes, you are allready in #ubuntu , wtf? with debi_man ?? are you trolling ?
[11:52] <moetunes> !cn | ovov
[11:52] <moetunes> !xtf > Sia--
[11:53] <moetunes> !wtf > Sia--
[11:53] <geekphreak> Sia--:  relax man he is new
[11:53] <Sia--> :)
[11:56] <c_nick> is it possible for Pidgin to update my status with the name of the file VLC player is playing
[11:56] <c_nick> without me having to write it again and again
[11:56] <geekphreak> c_nick: yes
[11:56] <c_nick> geekphreak: how
[11:57] <geekphreak> c_nick: install now playing plugin for pidgin
[11:57] <geekphreak> when you enable it, then in its option set the player to vlc ;d
[11:57] <c_nick> its not there
[11:57] <c_nick> in Plugins
[11:58] <enriq> hello. Evince shows incorrectly some letters (notably things like greek symbols used in math and celcius symbols for example)... apparently when emedded in the pdf... any clue?
[11:58] <geekphreak> c_nick: install it then >> system >>administration >> syanptic >> searh pidgin lot of plugins for it :)
[11:59] <Galerien> Hi every one, I'm about to Upgrade to 10.04 and it tells me that the support for some applications ended, ok, there's bluetooth listed in it...
[11:59] <c_nick> oh Synaptic has pidgin plugin installers too cool never knew that will try thanks geekphreak
[11:59] <geekphreak> c_nick: welcome
[12:00] <iceroot> Galerien: #ubuntu+1
[12:00] <geekphreak> Galerien: i recommend  a clean install, but thats just me :d
[12:02] <ter10> hi
[12:02] <ter10> hello
[12:03] <ter10> i have ubuntu not display
[12:03] <c_nick> ter10: hey hi .. i did not get ur question properly
[12:03] <iceroot> ter10: please what?
[12:04] <red2kic> ter10: ninja please explain everything in details
[12:04] <enriq> I have some pdf displaying incorrectly in evince but OK in xpdf
[12:06] <gunhed> hello there.
[12:07] <gunhed> I want to redirect STDOUT to a file with a limited size, just like a FIFO buffer - so if the filesize is reached just drop off the oldest lines. Any ideas where to look for?
[12:07] <c_nick> geekphreak: i found MusicTracker
[12:07] <Name141> is it possible to get a newer version of VLC in hardy than 0.8.6e ?
[12:07] <c_nick> but its not working for VLC
[12:07] <ter10_> ty
[12:07] <Newron> hi everyone
[12:07] <c_nick> Name141: yes sure i think u can get it manually install it via make make install and then change the sym link in the usr/bin
[12:07] <moetunes> gunhed: interesting question
[12:07] <geekphreak> c_nick: music tracker is for audacious/bmp/amarok and all
[12:08] <ter10_> uyutyutyu
[12:08] <geekphreak> c_nick: let me get my list 1 sec
[12:08] <ter10_> pagal
[12:08] <Name141> ah, i'll just leave it as is till the next LTS comes up
[12:08] <KiiK> apt-get install htop  E: Couldn't find package htop
[12:08] <iceroot> KiiK: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install htop
[12:09] <gunhed> moetunes: yes, it's a simple question but not simple to solve - I already checked the bash advanced guide and some other sources but couldn't find something appropriate.
[12:09] <KiiK> ieceroot: no luck. Im using 9.04
[12:09] <Name141> BTW: I can just go LTS -> the new one coming out in a few days right?
[12:09] <bazhang> Name141, from hardy?
[12:09] <Name141> Hardy -> whatever
[12:09] <iceroot> KiiK: please paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" to pastebin
[12:09] <Name141> yes
[12:09] <geekphreak> c_nick:  pidgin plugin pack get that too  and pidgin-mpris ok :)
[12:09] <iceroot> !paste | KiiK
[12:09] <bazhang> Name141, yes
[12:09] <c_nick> hmm ok
[12:09] <iceroot> Name141: yes, lts - lts is supported
[12:10] <Name141> bazhang: how long left is there in hardy's updates?
[12:10] <moetunes> gunhed: I've seen nothing about limiting the file size in a redirection - might be a couple of steps involved
[12:10] <KiiK> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/420977/
[12:10] <iceroot> Name141: 3 years desktop, 5 years server, starting from 04.2008
[12:11] <Name141> eh..
[12:11] <Name141> iceroot: AKA 1 more year
[12:11] <iceroot> Name141: yes
[12:11] <gunhed> moetunes: thanks, I'll try the #bash channel. But I agree to the "couple of steps" ;-) cu
[12:11] <rocket16> Ah, using irssi from Virtual Console for the first time, looks great!
[12:11] <iceroot> !info htop jaunty
[12:12] <bnv> hi
[12:13] <bnv> How can I convert an mdb file to odb?
[12:13] <iceroot> KiiK: add universe to your sources.list
[12:13] <iceroot> KiiK: then sudo apt-get update
[12:14] <bnv> please help me
[12:14] <iceroot> bnv: mdb=access=
[12:14] <iceroot> bnv: ?
[12:14] <geekphreak> iceroot: yes
[12:15] <greenmang0>  trying to install debian on ibm system p5 and getting this error > http://paste.debian.net/70290/ ... can anybody help me??
[12:15] <iceroot> geekphreak: just open it with openoffice
[12:15] <iceroot> geekphreak: #debian
[12:15] <moetunes> greenmang0: there is #debian
[12:15] <bnv> iceroot, I don't know how to convert an mdb (Access) file to odb (OO.o) in ubuntu
[12:16] <iceroot> bnv: as i said, just open it with openoffice
[12:16] <greenmang0> moetunes: actually... i tried Ubuntu 9.10 as well... but same error :(
[12:16] <Name141> Ok lets see.  How would I figure out how to setup a crontab for my eggdrops?
[12:16] <boiledfish> http://xdcc.it
[12:16] <iceroot> Name141: crontab -e
[12:16] <boiledfish> http://xdcc.it
[12:16] <boiledfish> ttt
[12:17] <Name141> iceroot: I'm assuming I would need some kind of "script" to know if it's running or not?
[12:17] <rocket16> exit
[12:17] <bnv> iceroot, yeah. It didn't open with openoffice
[12:17] <rocket16> Oops, sorry :(
[12:17] <Faratl> Is there any other program to use instead of wine to download windows programs?
[12:17] <rocket16> Thanks geekphreak, :)
[12:17] <iceroot> Faratl: download?
[12:17] <iceroot> Name141: ?
[12:17] <KiiK> iceroot: thanks. any "!info htop jaunty" like command in Ubuntu ??
[12:17] <Oer> !mono | faratl
[12:17] <Name141> iceroot: ?
[12:17] <jrib> Faratl: wine doesn't download windows progams
[12:18] <jrib> programs even
[12:18] <iceroot> KiiK: run "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and add universe to the both lines, save it and run sudo apt-get update
[12:18] <Name141> iceroot: I would put in */5 * * * eggdrop /home/n1/eggdrop.conf  , but that'd just start it every 5 mins?
[12:18] <KiiK> iceroot: installed. thansk your help.
[12:18] <iceroot> Name141: use absolut paths in cronjobs  that will run every 5 minutes, yes
[12:18] <iceroot> KiiK: nice to hear
[12:19] <Name141> iceroot: Then that'd not be what I wanted of course.
[12:19] <newron2> ho wto restore grub
[12:19] <Sia--> iceroot, if he is new, then using the Software Source in Administrator menu is better than gksu
[12:19] <iceroot> !grub | newron2
[12:19] <Name141> iceroot: I want it to check and make sure it is running, not run another one.
[12:19] <Name141> (less it is down)
[12:19] <Sia--> Name141, the pat-cache policy PACKAGE
[12:20] <Sia--> apt*
[12:20] <iceroot> Sia--: i was using gksudo gedit instead of sudo vim, that should be enough for new users :)
[12:20] <Name141> Sia--: who what where?
[12:20] <moetunes> Sia--: you're not a positive person at all are you
[12:21] <iceroot> Name141: grep the processlist for it should be ok
[12:21] <Sia--> iceroot, right, but the Software source is better or not for new user?
[12:21] <iceroot> Sia--: no
[12:21] <Sia--> ok :D
[12:21] <Name141> iceroot: eh, I'll just start it everytime the machine restarts
[12:21] <Name141> manually
[12:21] <Sia--> Name141,  ps aux | gre PACKAGE
[12:21] <blinkiz> hello. I need some help. I get the error: "Unable to open repository" when using svnsync. See more info here: http://blinkiz.pastebin.com/wvdgF9jL . Can someone please help me?
[12:22] <iceroot> Name141: you can start it with a init-script or with @reboot in cron
[12:22] <Name141> iceroot: how so?
[12:23] <Sia--> Name141, sudo  /etc/init.d/blabla restart
[12:24] <iceroot> Name141: crontab -e   there you will put  @reboot /path/to/your/script/script.sh
[12:24] <mirsisi> Sup everyone..
[12:24] <mirsisi> Well i installed the new ubuntu version and it seems to shutdown over night, I've checked the power settings and all but there was nothing set to make it shut down. Does anyone have the same problem?
[12:25] <iceroot> mirsisi: have a look at /var/log/syslog  if there are any hints
[12:25] <jrib> mirsisi: what new version?
[12:25] <Sia--> mirsisi, system log?
[12:25] <moetunes> mirsisi: is that the 10.04?
[12:25] <Name141> iceroot: so like make a simple script and like.. /usr/bin/eggdrop /home/n1/eggdrop.conf , then in the crontab I use just @reboot /home/n1/script , after chmod +x script ?
[12:25] <mirsisi> 10.4 beta2
[12:26] <jrib> mirsisi: #ubuntu+1 for 10.04 support please
[12:26] <Sia--> misnix, join #ubuntu+1
[12:26] <Sia--> :|
[12:26] <moetunes> Sia--: it is /join mate
[12:27] <tarelerulz> How do you mount iso so you can use it as install cd from running Ubuntu so you can install to other partition?
[12:27] <Sia--> ignoring All moetunes
[12:27] <moetunes> k
[12:28] <tarelerulz> mounting it as loopback seem to let you view the files ,but not use it as install cd
[12:28] <Oer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso
[12:28] <ranjan> just now installed the Lucid RC...but again gwibber is not showing my tweets :(
[12:28] <Sia--> because in xchat, gnome-xchate ..etc name beginning with # is click able to join the channel, even in irssi too
[12:29] <Sia--> ranjan, #ubuntu+1
[12:29] <hkvn> ok, joined :D
[12:29] <ranjan> Sia--, ya i know...but no answer from them...i think its a problem with gwibber
[12:29] <ranjan> Sia--, in that case any solution from here???!!!
[12:29] <Sia--> ranjan, let me try, what is your problem there?
[12:30] <panamaha> Hi ! Can someone help me to bring back to system tray (panel) the sound level controller icon ? ( I remove it :( )
[12:30] <iceroot> Name141: correct
[12:31] <c_nick> Now Playing is not working
[12:32] <moetunes> panamaha: if you right click the panel you should have the option to show it
[12:32] <Name141> iceroot: I see now, I wasn't aware you can use "@yearly @weekly" etc
[12:32] <macrosamurai> I'm looking for help on some things
[12:32] <panamaha> there is no option for sound controller (or something like that)
[12:32] <Name141> iceroot: by George it worked.
[12:32] <tarelerulz> can't you install Ubuntu from an sdcard ?
[12:33] <Sia--> !ask | macrosamurai
[12:33] <moetunes> panamaha: there's a menu entry for adding stuff yes?
[12:33] <alkon> 111
[12:33] <tenmiles> tarelerulz: yes, as long as your mobo (or laptop) supports booting from it.
[12:34] <panamaha> moetunes : when i right click on panel there is an option : "add to panel..."
[12:34] <alkon> Python ImportError где копать?
[12:34] <Oer> #ru | alkon
[12:34] <moetunes> panamaha: select that and you will find the mixer control
[12:35] <Oer> !ru | alkon
[12:35] <tarelerulz> Here is what I thinking about doing putting the iso on sd card in my android phone and rebooting and seeing if I can boot from that
[12:35] <iceroot> Name141: yes there are some nice tags you can use in cron, like @reboot or @daily and so on
[12:35] <panamaha> I select it but here is no an option about sound . (that is the problem)
[12:35] <Aciid> tarelerulz: better google is there an guide first
[12:35] <macrosamurai> CTRL + ALT + F1...F6 don't do anything for me and I've done everything I can find on the subject. ...Also I tried to install the non-Gnome WMs ontop of my existing setup and lost the ability to update
[12:36] <Sia--> macrosamurai, use Ctl+Alt+F2 instead
[12:36] <macrosamurai> Sia, all six of them are black for me
[12:37] <Sia--> then kill the Xorg
[12:37] <macrosamurai> although I have figured out how to run X on 9 as well as 7
[12:37] <tarelerulz> To be truthful it all ways seem like I am doing something either not done or not done much.  upgrading to Ubuntu 10.04 is not the best idea. Fist is the best no old package or programs and I don't have a cdr . All I have running Ubuntu and Nexus one with sdcard .
[12:38] <macrosamurai> restarted Xorg before... no fruit on the next boot
[12:39] <macrosamurai> to tell the truth I'm only using ubuntu to learn the *nix when I get competent I think I might find something else to play with
[12:40] <Sia--> macrosamurai, ?!
[12:41] <adac> Does anyone have a clue how to bind ldap to the ubuntu accounts?
[12:41] <macrosamurai> will I lose xchant if I kill Xorg right now?
[12:41] <IdleOne> macrosamurai: when you get competent I think you will find that you don't need to try something else
[12:41] <moetunes> macrosamurai: yep
[12:42] <alien260> adac: http://beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1017-ldap-client-on-ubuntu-804
[12:42] <Sia--> macrosamurai, use irssi in CLI
[12:42] <macrosamurai> how do I check if I have irssi
[12:43] <adac> alien260, I'll have a look at that, thx
[12:43] <IdleOne> macrob: sudo apt-gte install irssi
[12:43] <IdleOne> macrosamurai: ^^^
[12:43] <IdleOne> sorry for the highlight macrob
[12:43] <panamaha> and what about my sound level icon ? :)
[12:43] <macrosamurai> I know how to get it IdleOne
[12:43] <Sia--> panamaha, use gamix instead of default one from ubuntu
[12:44] <IdleOne> macrosamurai: oh, you can run apt-cache policy irssi to see if it is installed
[12:44] <panamaha> gamix ? i have to install it first ?
[12:44] <Sia--> panamaha, yes install it
[12:46] <moetunes> panamaha: ther's no option for the sound mixer in add to panel?
[12:46] <panamaha> no :(
[12:46] <panamaha> i look it many times...
[12:46] <macrosamurai> turns out didn't have it installing now
[12:46] <moetunes> panamaha: which ubuntu are you using pls?
[12:46] <macrosamurai> so about those um .... ttys? kill Xorg will fix them
[12:47] <panamaha> ubuntu 64 bit 10 RC (updated).
[12:47] <IdleOne> Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion. panamaha
[12:47] <Sia--> panamaha, is tkae around 20 to 40 seconds maximal
[12:48] <moetunes> panamaha: you need to ask in #ubuntu+1 - type /j #ubuntu+1   they will know maybe
[12:48] <panamaha> ok. thank you!
[12:51] <macrosamurai> so to learn my way around the terminal and thus bash/cli/whatever I grabbed this ebook Unix Mages...it dorky fun
[12:52] <orangejuice> Hmm, I am trying to install ubuntu 9.10 from the mini CD but it doesn't pick up my first hard drive. I currently have linux installed on sda, but the partitioner is only showing me sdb(storage) and sdc(windows) .. any ideas?
[12:52] <hatake_kakashi> macrosamurai, there's BASH-howto on tldp.org for example
[12:52] <c_nick> the Now Playing plugin does not update my status on pidign
[12:52] <IdleOne> macrosamurai: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/ is also free
[12:53] <hatake_kakashi> c_nick, tried #pidgin for example?
[12:54] <moetunes> orangejuice: are the three disks the sane - i.e. sata?
[12:54] <orangejuice> moetunes: yes
[12:54] <moetunes> orangejuice: that's strange then...
[12:54] <hatake_kakashi> orangejuice, check with fdisk -l to see if it can see /dev/sda
[12:55] <moetunes> orangejuice: do you have a swap on the first hard drive?
[12:55] <orangejuice> hatake_kakashi: it does indeed see sda (from the shell within the installer)
[12:55] <orangejuice> moetunes: yea
[12:56] <macrosamurai> so this not having tty1-tty6 a common problem?
[12:56] <hatake_kakashi> orangejuice, probably a bug with the installer or a fixed bug
[12:56] <uczen> ok i can help you
[12:56] <hatake_kakashi> macrosamurai, on a standard ubuntu setup, that shouldn't be the case
[12:56] <moetunes> orangejuice: you might have to unmount that swap then start the partitioner
[12:57] <uczen> moetunes told true
[12:57] <moetunes> thnx uczen
[12:57] <pzn> I need some help to install 9.10 in a notebook with root encrypted filesystem. can anyone send me some URL.
[12:58] <JustUbuntized> hi....how can i get support ?
[12:58] <Sia--> !ask | JustUbuntized
[12:58] <moetunes> JustUbuntized: you just ask here :]
[12:58] <uczen> you must just ask
[12:59] <macrosamurai> well I lost the ability to use synaptic after I tried adding the non-Gnome WMs ontop of my setup...tried them all out and decided I liked Gnome afterall
[12:59] <JustUbuntized> I installed Ubuntu & it is great......but my Windows is now giving blue screen when loading
[12:59] <macrosamurai> dunno if that has anything to do with anything
[12:59] <moetunes> Sia--: gently for the newbies pls :]
[12:59] <orangejuice> moetunes: hmm while fdisk -l does show it, umount /dev/sda2 is telling me invalid argument
[13:00] <macrosamurai> I'll prolly wipe and reinstall when I feel motivated to
[13:00] <moetunes> orangejuice: just use the command   mount   does the swap show then?
[13:00] <orangejuice> moetunes: nope, not in that list
[13:01] <JustUbuntized> on installation....option 1 was to have them both at startup
[13:01] <moetunes> k
[13:01] <JustUbuntized> I selected this one
[13:01] <JustUbuntized> now Ubuntu runs but Windows is giving blue screen at the very beginning of loading
[13:02] <oik> Hi. I'd like to install Lucid RC where /home is a Logical Volume inside a VG. I don't need it formatted, so how do I do that?
[13:02] <hatake_kakashi> orangejuice, if /dev/sda2 is swap you need to use swapoff
[13:02] <moetunes> orangejuice: nothing sda shows in fdisk -l?
[13:02] <hatake_kakashi> !lucid | oik
[13:02] <JustUbuntized> how can I fix this ?
[13:02] <tic^> I have 9.10 installed on my dell desktop, 1st hard drive is 640G, second hard drive is 1T. Can I partition the 1T drive to the same size as the 640gig drive to use raid with no problems?
[13:03] <c0rrupt0r> hey there, I am running Ubuntu 9.10 as I have recently noticed my sound popping and crackling, any idea's would be great
[13:04] <uczen> tic no you cant
[13:04] <tic^> ok, why. learn me.
[13:04] <moetunes> c0rrupt0r: using inel hd?
[13:04] <orangejuice> moetunes: /dev/sda /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc all show up with their partions with fdisk -l
[13:04] <macrosamurai> you know what'll be bad about a fresh reinstall ... I finally got $PS1 how I like it.. and a couple of alias
[13:04] <JustUbuntized> can anyone help please
[13:05] <uczen> if you want to have a ride you must have the same hdd
[13:05] <orangejuice> I am going to try a different install cd, see if I fare any better.
[13:05] <moetunes> orangejuice: stange they don't show in the partitioner - did you do swapoff like hatake_kakashi suggested and restart the partitioner?
[13:05] <orangejuice> yea tried that.
[13:05] <tic^> uczen: same drive size you mean?
[13:05] <orangejuice> same thing.
[13:06] <fi3ei2> to activate cube atlantis, we have to run "sudo ccsm" and enable it?
[13:06] <alien260> tic^: if ur interested in the subject have a read about it - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid
[13:06] <hatake_kakashi> orangejuice, even after restarting the partitioner once you did swapoff?
[13:06] <macrosamurai> oh weird question why does everytime I update my grub menu get larger and larger?
[13:06] <c0rrupt0r> Hello moetunes, I am using a western Digital HD
[13:06] <hatake_kakashi> macrosamurai, most likely new kernel versions
[13:06] <JustUbuntized> I installed Ubuntu 9.10 & it is great......I installed it along with Win XP.......selected the option to have them both at startup so to select which to load.........but my Windows is now giving blue screen when loading
[13:06] <tic^> alien260: k, thank you
[13:07] <blerk> which package is needed to get the weather applet inside the clock to work? i got the options, but after entering a location, nothing happens :/
[13:07] <Sia--> macrosamurai, the use apt-get autoremove or unused kernel remove like in sidux
[13:07] <macrosamurai> damn I'm going to have to get a note book to keep track of all these apt-gets
[13:08] <macrosamurai> lols
[13:08] <IdleOne> macrosamurai: use Tomboy application :)
[13:08] <lupa> uczen:  what are you talking about?
[13:08] <macrosamurai> lol
[13:08] <moetunes> c0rrupt0r: the sound is based on the h'ware which can be found with sudo lshw in terminal
[13:08] <IdleOne> macrosamurai: it is very handy once you get used to it
[13:09] <macrosamurai> I was thinking of firing up vim
[13:09] <orangejuice> hatake_kakashi: I've tried to from th detect disks step, and I still just see those two devices. :/
[13:09] <uczen> lupa: I am talking about RIDE
[13:09] <macrosamurai> :P
[13:09] <IdleOne> macrosamurai: or whatever way you prefer to take notes, yup.
[13:09] <JustUbuntized> is there any channel that might have support?
[13:09] <lupa> uczen: uuuuuuuu
[13:09] <IdleOne> JustUbuntized: support for?
[13:09] <lupa> uczen:ej ty analfabeto":))
[13:09] <moetunes> c0rrupt0r: you need to find the line with audio in it
[13:10] <Sereph> anyone know why firefox would be using 100% of a cpu in 9.10?
[13:10] <IdleOne> JustUbuntized: ##windows should be able to help with the windows issue. probably not ubuntu related at all
[13:10] <JustUbuntized> no one answered me so maybe no one is aware of a solution
[13:10] <lupa> uczen u have too take some english writing lessons :)
[13:10] <macrosamurai> firefox is a mem leak on any system
[13:10] <macrosamurai> ??
[13:10] <iceroot> macrosamurai: no
[13:11] <JustUbuntized> win was working till ubuntu was installed
[13:11] <blerk> which channel is used for ubuntu 10.4 dev?
[13:11] <hatake_kakashi> orangejuice, oh well its probably to do with a fixed bug that used to crash the installer, now its probably set to ignore previously installed linux (possibly *ubuntu?)
[13:11] <iceroot> JustUbuntized: and the problem is? :)
[13:11] <hatake_kakashi> blerk, #ubuntu+1
[13:11] <IdleOne> blerk: Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[13:11] <blerk> ta
[13:11] <lupa> nhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[13:11] <iceroot> blerk: #ubuntu+1-dev i think
[13:11] <uczen> lupa: go away
[13:11] <orangejuice> hatake_kakashi: yes actually what's currently installed is lucid
[13:12] <dementor> hy   i have hdd and is out of space y buy a second hdd but how to put the free space from second to the first
[13:12] <JustUbuntized> i get blue screen when win is loading
[13:12] <Pici> iceroot: there is no such channel
[13:12] <hatake_kakashi> orangejuice, hence that might be the reason why
[13:12] <llutz> dementor: e.g move your /home to 2nd hd
[13:12] <fi3ei2> to activate cube atlantis, what can we do, guys?
[13:13] <orangejuice> hatake_kakashi: is there a way to fix this? i'm in the process of grabbing 9.10 again but a full install cd
[13:14] <hatake_kakashi> orangejuice, no, but if you're daring you can try to do stuff like deleting mbr (dangerous), etc
[13:14] <dementor> llutz i havea web page and the upload files most go on the first
[13:14] <IdleOne> fi3ei2: #compiz can help
[13:14] <llutz> dementor: then move /var/www
[13:15] <hatake_kakashi> orangejuice, I'm pretty sure they don't allow it apart from being an old bug is because they don't want users to install two different versions of ubuntu on the same partitions
[13:15] <fi3ei2> thanks idleOne
[13:15] <motd> how the new theme of ubuntu is called?
[13:15] <macrosamurai> (random time!) real programmers redirect and append their code into their files without ever fireing up a text editor!!
[13:16] <bazhang> macrosamurai, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[13:16] <hatake_kakashi> orangejuice, actually, another idea - more safe, install onto another hard disk, and transfer the data across to new partitions on the first hard disk, edit grub accordingly
[13:16] <doc`> Just installed ubuntu 10.04, can connect to my wireless network, ping stuff but i cant surf. Tried the troubleshooting but not sure if im disabling acpi correctly.
[13:16] <doc`> Can i check that?
[13:16] <hatake_kakashi> !lucid | doc`
[13:16] <bazhang> doc`, #ubuntu+1 for lucid pleaes
[13:16] <doc`> ty
[13:17] <orangejuice> alright thanks hatake_kakashi, i'll look into it
[13:18] <macrosamurai> strictly support in here ..... okay then is there a way for me to fix synaptics without doing a reinstall? I have a feeling I screwed something up when I tried to add kde..xfce and such
[13:18] <hatake_kakashi> orangejuice, personally, if you're not sure what you are doing and you're planning to reuse the same partition layout as your previous ubuntu install, let me tell you don't. You'll regret
[13:18] <g0tcha> hey guys, do you guys recommend installing any version of ubuntu on a small hp netbook?
[13:18] <g0tcha> HP Mini netbook
[13:18] <hatake_kakashi> g0tcha, unr
[13:18] <g0tcha> it has windows 7 starter but its pretty much useless
[13:18] <g0tcha> has nearly no features
[13:19] <uczen> fuck yoy
[13:20] <motd> is it possible to install GNOME theme on KDE?
[13:20] <bugs> bonjour
[13:20] <IdleOne> !fr | salut bugs
[13:21] <moetunes> motd: there may be ports - kde.look.org might bring joy
[13:21] <hatake_kakashi> motd, not easily I think
[13:21] <bugs> motd it is possible
[13:21] <bugs> you just have to install ubuntu-desktop
[13:21] <motd> im looking for the "light" ubuntu theme for KDE
[13:21] <andrew__> If I install grub, through apt-get, can I assume that it will work if I just reboot now
[13:21] <andrew__> Or is there something to config?
[13:22] <IdleOne> andrew__: what is it you want to accomplish ?
[13:22] <moetunes> andrew__: depends on where you start from...
[13:22] <andrew__> I just had an upgrade remove grub
[13:22] <andrew__> So I need to have grub before I reboot..
[13:23] <moetunes> strange
[13:23] <moetunes> andrew__: which ubuntu pls?
[13:23] <andrew__> 9.10
[13:23] <moetunes> k
[13:23] <andrew__> I think it's trying to upgrade to 10.4
[13:23] <IdleOne> andrew__: I don't have grub installed either or grub2 and my pc boots fine
[13:24] <moetunes> andrew__: why that thought?
[13:24] <andrew__> Erm well mine was booting from grub
[13:24] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[13:24] <andrew__> moetunes: The dialog was 'Distribution upgrade' :p
[13:24] <raddy> I just installed ubuntu 10.04 rc
[13:24] <raddy> Working very well.
[13:24] <IdleOne> raddy: Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[13:24] <hatake_kakashi> !lucid | raddy
[13:25] <andrew__> Yeah but it reinstalled all my packages, so but I didn't do grub
[13:25] <raddy> #ubuntu+1
[13:25] <andrew__> This is technically a 9.10 issue, seeing as I am still on 9.10
[13:25] <moetunes> andrew__: does   sudo grub    ive a result?
[13:25] <moetunes> give*
[13:25] <andrew__> moetunes: grub does, it opens grub.
[13:26] <andrew__> moetunes: Oooh.. sudo grub does, it's probing devices for bios drives
[13:26] <moetunes> andrew__: it is installed then - there's a grub.cfg in /boot/grub
[13:26] <moetunes> andrew__: it is installed then - there's a grub.cfg in /boot/grub?
[13:28] <cris_> holaa
[13:28] <Urda> what's the Grub issue?
[13:28] <andrew__> moetunes: There is
[13:28]  * Urda assuming Grub2
[13:29] <moetunes> andrew__: why did you think it wasn'y installed? - just to check
[13:29] <andrew__> moetunes: Erm I tried 'grub' in the terminal, it said twasn't
[13:30] <andrew__> So then I installed it, via apt
[13:30] <motd> bugs
[13:30] <motd> what does ubuntu-desktop do
[13:30] <andrew__> Ok so, reboot time?
[13:30] <hatake_kakashi> default gnome desktop
[13:30] <hatake_kakashi> !info ubuntu-desktop
[13:31] <moetunes> andrew__: read grub.cfg to check it uses a valid kernel and initrd - if so you should be ok
[13:31] <pzn> will ubuntu 10.4 include some easy-to-do root encrypted fs tool?
[13:31] <iceroot> pzn: #ubuntu+1
[13:32] <ChB82> hello! i did "vi test.txt | grep test" - then i killed vi and grep is restarting so that i can't kill the process. What can i do to kill grep?
[13:32] <moetunes> ChB82: killall grep
[13:33] <ChB82> grep: no process found
[13:33] <ChB82> but "ps ax" shows "grep vi" with a changing process id...
[13:33] <hatake_kakashi> ChB82, its not running
[13:34] <hal> on a new install, on a centrino laptop, synaptic seems to be very resource hungry...hanging for a minute or two after mark for installation is selected.  Is this normal?  Does anyone know how I could troubleshoot this please?
[13:34] <moetunes> ChB82: try   ps aux | grep grep - if there's only one line it is not running
[13:34] <hal> I have checked top, and it is indeed synaptic that is at 80% cpu
[13:34] <ChB82> it is running...4532 pts/4    S+     0:00 grep vi
[13:34] <moetunes> ChB82: you need to killall vi then
[13:35] <ChB82> vi: no process found
[13:35] <ChB82> but the process is still alive
[13:35] <benimnetz> hi! i do have a problem with false error messages constantly flooding my virtual terminals. it says [  575.280067] hub 2-0:1.0: over-current change on port 2 while there is no device connected
[13:35] <llutz> ChB82: sudo kill -9 4532
[13:35] <moetunes> ChB82: does it show in ps aux?
[13:36] <benimnetz> i already reported a bug report, but im interested in getting that fixed (and finding out why that appears) is anybody else running an elder thinkpad (mine is an r52) an having suchs problems?
[13:37] <ChB82> hmm...grep is permanantly restarting...so now it has already pid 4549
[13:37] <Oli``> I'm trying to "burn" a live USB stick using usb-creator-gtk but as soon as I click "make startup disk" it errors with "Installation failed". I've tried multiple USB sticks, multiple ISO images and multiple USB ports. Running from console doesn't show any extra errors.
[13:37] <wise_crypt> !info GLib
[13:37] <andrew__> moetunes: The default kernel it sselects didn't, but I got one that did
[13:37] <Guest98980> ?
[13:37] <Guest98980> --help
[13:38] <wise_crypt> checking for GLIB... no configure: error: You must have GLib 2.4.0 or newer development headers installed to build
[13:39] <moetunes> andrew__: did you start vi with sudo ?
[13:39] <mahi> what is monolithic kernal
[13:39] <mahi> ?
[13:39] <andrew__> moetunes: vi?
[13:39] <llutz> !info libglibmm-2.4-dev
[13:39] <llutz> wise_crypt: ^^
[13:39] <hatake_kakashi> mahi, there's a wikipedia entry describing in intricate detail what is monolithic kernel
[13:40] <moetunes> oops andrew__ sorry
[13:40] <wise_crypt> llutz: hehe thanks
[13:40] <mahi> thz
[13:40] <hal> please would someone help me to understand why synaptic is so slow?
[13:41] <pzn> I can't find the alternate-CD option here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download  where is it?
[13:41] <hatake_kakashi> hal, could be many reasons
[13:41] <Vigo> hal: many many many reasons.
[13:41] <hatake_kakashi> pzn, look under advanced/alternative options
[13:41] <moetunes> andrew__: grub.cfg has to list the appropriate kernel and initrd - check that
[13:41] <hal> hatake_kakashi: ok, how do I determine what those reasons are?
[13:41] <hal> Vigo: btw, I got it running using the network install docs!  :-)
[13:41] <hatake_kakashi> hal, slow cpu, lack of ram, lack of permissions, etc
[13:42] <Vigo> hal: Sweeet!
[13:42] <hal> hatake_kakashi: ok, it's a fresh install, so it won't be the last
[13:42] <andrew__> moetunes: 'tis grand for now, I have work to do :p
[13:42] <moetunes> k
[13:42] <hal> it's a centrino, so it should be able to handle it
[13:42] <hal> the ram is only 768MB - is this adequate?
[13:42] <frxstrem> why can I hear feedback from my microphone in my speakers?
[13:42] <hatake_kakashi> hal, the other thing might also be related to packages being remotely mounted
[13:42] <Vigo> hal: Could be a cache thing, normally a reboot takes care of that, or use the force.
[13:43] <hatake_kakashi> hal, should be generally, and centrino is a technology not a certain set of speed
[13:43] <pzn> where can I find a list of differences between ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-alternate iso installs?
[13:43] <hatake_kakashi> pzn, its described on the website
[13:44] <hal> hatake_kakashi: yeah, but general I mean
[13:44] <Pici> pzn: The installs themselves are identical, the installers are not.
[13:44] <hal> Vigo: I have rebooted
[13:44] <hal> Vigo: actually, maybe I should try that again.. one mo...
[13:44] <hatake_kakashi> hal, yup vagueness
[13:45] <Pici> pzn: The alternate CD uses the text-based debian-installer, the live-cd is a live cd and uses the ubiquity installer.
[13:45] <mguy> Is there anything special I have to do to get my Corei5+samsung SSD running at full speed? I just got a new laptop from dell and it's quite a bit slower than my C2D desktop with a regular HD
[13:45] <pzn> hatake_kakashi, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate I could only see it is textmode... but someone told me that the alternate cd has some filesystem encryption options... I'd like to see the list of differences between installers
[13:45] <hatake_kakashi> pzn, read what Pici said
[13:45] <pzn> Pici, just that difference?
[13:45] <mguy> Measuring speed by building gimp, it takes 30% longer to compile on the new machine
[13:46] <Pici> pzn: let me get you a list.
[13:46] <SwedeMike> pzn: there are lots of more differences in what types of installs it can do, lvm, crypto etc.
[13:46] <hatake_kakashi> !offtopic | mguy
[13:46] <rwilla> how can i enable touchpad tapping in lucid?
[13:46] <llutz> !lucid > rwilla
[13:46] <hatake_kakashi> !lucid | rwilla
[13:47] <mguy> hatake_kakashi: How is that off-topic?
[13:47] <Pici> pzn: Heres the guide for the alternate installer for 9.10: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/index.html
[13:47] <hatake_kakashi> mguy, how is it related to ubuntu in the first place when you're discussing hardware latency issues and compiling gimp for example?
[13:47] <mguy> Because I'm using Ubuntu on both machines and wonder why one is much newer but so much slower?
[13:49] <hatake_kakashi> mguy, that's kinda like saying I have green apple and red apple, which should I eat first if I like eating apples
[13:49] <hatake_kakashi> mguy, again hardware related issue
[13:49] <souffledev> hello #ubuntu!
[13:49] <Joey64> hello , everyone ! how to install nv drivers into ubuntu10.04
[13:50] <Vigo> mguy: Or join channel #gimp or #hardware
[13:50] <ikonia> !lucid | Joey64
[13:50] <Pici> Joey64 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[13:50] <motd> is it possible to download packages in apt-get from two or more different sources at the same time to increase download speed?
[13:50] <c_nick> I downloaded pidgin Now Playing Plugin ..Enabled it and configured it to track VLC but when i start a video or a mp3 file in VLC i get no change in my status
[13:50] <ikonia> motd: that won't work
[13:50] <Joey64> thanks
[13:50] <mguy> hatake_kakashi: Why would that be any different than asking in here about getting a piece of hradware working? I just want to know if there's anything you need to do to get Core i3/5/7 processors working at full speed in ubuntu, or the same for ssd drives
[13:50] <hatake_kakashi> c_nick, have you bothered to try asking on pidgin support?
[13:50] <souffledev> guys this is more of a gnome question. how can i set my cpu freq to performance on power and powersave on battery?
[13:51] <motd> so how can i increase download from sources.. i get only 10-100kBps.. and i should get 500kBps
[13:51] <hatake_kakashi> mguy you were i5 with ssd against c2d with normal hard disk, no?
[13:51] <motd> 20% only of my speed
[13:51] <ikonia> motd: it's m most likley your own connection rather than a mirror, if it is the mirror, then use a different one
[13:51] <mguy> hatake_kakashi: Correct
[13:52] <hatake_kakashi> mguy, its hardware related, period
[13:52] <Vigo> motd: Have you changed the Location or altered any of the Sources.lst?
[13:52] <motd> no
[13:52] <quiritius> hi, how do i edit Compose key sequences? I do not want to use xim, but need to add customs sequences. question is where to?
[13:52] <mguy> hatake_kakashi: But I'm using Ubuntu!
[13:52] <ikonia> mguy: what is your issue exactly ?
[13:52] <hatake_kakashi> mguy, it does not make a single difference
[13:53] <motd> Vigo, how can i see which server location is it "defaultly" downloading from
[13:53] <ikonia> motd: its the one in your sorces.list
[13:53] <dashs> I'd like to downgrade vlc 0.9.2 to 0.8.6 on my mythbuntu distro -- what steps?
[13:53] <switchgirl> anyone had the empathy thing where it confuses who said what: ie my friend says "i like your hair in that picture" and it shows as you said it
[13:53] <motd> the link.. ok
[13:53] <Vigo> motd: Ok, that could be a way to, there are a few ways, GUI or CLI?
[13:53] <motd> way to what?
[13:54] <barberan> Hello, what if I have to launch some net-work app by Socks, and it does not support the socks proto by itself? (I mean some analog of windows SocksCap)
[13:54] <hatake_kakashi> motd, way to select the correct repo location closer to you (for faster speeds)
[13:54] <llutz> barberan: tsocks
[13:54] <barberan> thx
[13:54] <motd> yes I know
[13:54] <motd> where can i see the mirror list
[13:55] <ikonia> !mirrors
[13:55] <motd> !Karmic
[13:55] <hatake_kakashi> motd, /etc/apt/sources.list afaik
[13:55] <Vigo> motd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[13:55] <motd> thanks
[13:56] <rocket16> Hello folks,
[13:56] <Vigo> motd: and here> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[14:00] <jad> hey, im on ubuntu 9.10, latest updates. I have 12 ubuntu boot menus. each 2 are normal and recovery mode with 6 different linux kernels.   When I installed it there was only one. But it seems that each time I get a kernel update, it create a new boot.
[14:00] <jad> Is this a default behavior ?
[14:00] <Subby> Hi. Is there a tool to change the encoding of a file from utf-8 to iso_xxx ?
[14:00] <hatake_kakashi> jad, yes
[14:00] <ikonia> jad: remove the older kernels
[14:00] <rocket16> How to open a file, with the name of suppose "A file" (not "A_file) in Terminal?
[14:01] <Subby> A\ file
[14:01] <ikonia> rocket16: escape chars, "\" eg: A\ file
[14:01] <jad> hatake_kakashi, ikonia , Do I just delete them from /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[14:01] <rocket16> Great! Thanks Subby and ikonia
[14:01] <ikonia> jad: no, remove them with the package manager
[14:01] <geekphreak> hi all
[14:01] <c_nick> geekphreak: good to see u back
[14:01] <c_nick> its not working as suggested
[14:01] <c_nick> i cannot see the updates
[14:02] <geekphreak> c_nick: thanks,  you mean mpris?
[14:02] <c_nick> yes
[14:02] <jaydee> hi all
[14:02] <Helsinkiii> hey guys
[14:02] <Whoopie> Hi, what is the difference between acroread and adobereader-deu in the partner repository? Both seem to be English.
[14:02] <geekphreak> c_nick: it does says it support vlc, did you confirm with friend, that status is being updated , you might not see it on your end
[14:02] <necrogami> wth .. joins instantly is excess flood ?
[14:03] <Helsinkiii> i installed KDE via kubuntu-desktop and all the necessary packages, and it loads up OK, but now my internet doesnt work
[14:03] <c_nick> actually i have multiple accounts and they are friends of each other
[14:03] <c_nick> so....
[14:03] <geekphreak> Helsinkiii:  yeah you will have to setup kde manager
[14:03] <ebi> I have a problem I try to do apt-get source strongswan but it doesn't find the source package my sources.list says deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe multiverse what do I need to add to be able to get the source package?
[14:03] <jaydee> i want to delete my std wlan driver , can someone help me?
[14:04] <geekphreak> c_nick:  ok so you see the status,
[14:04] <llutz> jaydee: delete? i guess you want to blacklist it
[14:04] <c_nick> yes
[14:04] <geekphreak> c_nick:  do you have auadacious? , i wana check something
[14:04] <jaydee> i think so
[14:04] <jaydee> im new at linux
[14:04] <jaydee> but im try my best
[14:05] <hal> Vigo: I think you were right - I rebooted and now synaptic seems much more responsive.  Did you say this was due to some problem with the apt cache?
[14:05] <llutz> jaydee: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:05] <geekphreak> c_nick:  or can you open pidgin plugin manager?
[14:05] <Vigo> hal: That cache fills up fast, it sure sounds like the error, that can be tuned up or down.
[14:06] <jaydee> ? how can i open this file?
[14:06] <c_nick> plugin manager
[14:06] <c_nick> where is that
[14:06] <llutz> jaydee: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:06] <geekphreak> jaydee:  which file?
[14:06] <jaydee> what is nano?
[14:06] <jaydee> what command
[14:06] <jad> ikonia, is it really safe to remove linux-image-2.6.X ? and will that remove it from the grub ?
[14:07] <rrittenhouse> Where can I find Warty Warthog ISO's?
[14:07] <llutz> jaydee: an editor
[14:07] <ebi> Ah I just need to add deb-src
[14:07] <geekphreak> c_nick: main pidgin window tools >>plugins , scroll down to where it says now playing make sure it is checked, then select it, then click configure, and set player to vlc
[14:07] <jaydee> ahh  i see
[14:07] <Helsinkiii> geekphreak:how do i do that without internet
[14:07] <Helsinkiii> geekphreak: i'm in like the worst situation right now, i need internet. all my docs are online
[14:08] <jaydee> ok how i can get information about my installed driver?
[14:08] <c0rrupt0r> hey there, I am running ubuntu 9.10 and am having sound issues with crackling and popping sounds, my sound card is on a logitech usb headset, any help would be great thank you
[14:08] <geekphreak> Helsinkiii:  wha kinda of connection are you on adsl?
[14:08] <c_nick> geekphreak: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4093/screenshot1qo.png and http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/3696/screenshot2a.png
[14:08] <Helsinkiii> yeah
[14:08] <Vigo> hal: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/apt-cache.8.html
[14:08] <Helsinkiii> im at the library right now and it's not even letting me open my files properly
[14:09] <Helsinkiii> it's a rly shitty pc
[14:09] <wookienz> hi, im trying to mount a cifs share from a NAS box to my ubuntu box. It is a fairly bare box so may be missing some key ingredients. Presently running the mount command with -t cifs i get "mount: //192.168.2.5/ftp/tmp/ is not a valid block device" with an error code of -6. Anyone help me out?
[14:09] <geekphreak> c_nick:  i see what ya mean, prob it supports old version of vlc and thats why it aint updatig
[14:09] <c_nick> oh
[14:09] <c_nick> which version will it support ?
[14:09] <geekphreak> Helsinkiii: can you try something for me?
[14:09] <Pici> !who
[14:10] <geekphreak> c_nick:  before you jump inot that , you just want song info right displayed or movies?
[14:10] <rrittenhouse> Where can I find Warty Warthog ISO's?
[14:10] <c_nick> song info
[14:10] <geekphreak> c_nick: can you open terminal for me , will tell you easy
[14:10] <Helsinkiii> geekphreak:ya
[14:10] <c_nick> ok
[14:10] <c_nick> done proceed
[14:10] <Helsinkiii> geekphreak:im rly panicking here
[14:11] <c_nick> geekphreak: now what should i do
[14:11] <geekphreak> Helsinkiii: no need to , lets try this >>  listen first ok
[14:11] <Helsinkiii> okkk
[14:11] <llutz> wookienz: sudo aptitude install smbfs
[14:12] <c_nick> Helsinkiii: whats the issue
[14:12] <wookienz> llutz: DOH!
[14:12]  * wookienz goes and hides
[14:12] <geekphreak> Helsinkiii:  , press ctrl+alt+2 , it will take you to a black terminal , enter your login name/password  and you will be logged in, then type sudo pppoeconf and enter information like name/password for you isp , after it is done, press ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to desktop gui ok
[14:13] <Helsinkiii> name pswd for ISP?
[14:13] <geekphreak> c_nick:  ok type >> sudo apt-get install audacious
[14:13] <Helsinkiii> what would that be like
[14:13] <geekphreak> Helsinkiii: your internet provider must have given name /password right?
[14:13] <c_nick> instakking ....
[14:14] <Helsinkiii> geekphreak: i have no idea. some dude just set it up for us
[14:14] <c0rrupt0r> hey there, I am running ubuntu 9.10 and am having sound issues with crackling and popping sounds, my sound card is on a logitech usb headset, any help would be great thank you
[14:14] <jad> thx ikonia
[14:14] <jad> done
[14:14] <jad> great
[14:14] <jad> bye
[14:15] <geekphreak> Helsinkiii:  oh ok, do you have any other session on pc, like gnome ?
[14:15] <c_nick> geekphreak:  done :)
[14:15] <domingo> all people speak english
[14:15] <c_nick> what next
[14:15] <geekphreak> c_nick: open plugin manager
[14:15] <Helsinkiii> geekphreak:yeah it's what i was running last night, b4 i installed kubuntu-desktop
[14:15] <Helsinkiii> geekphreak: there was this thing that asked me tochoose between gdm and kdm btw and i chose kdm
[14:15] <c_nick> geekphreak:  then
[14:16] <geekphreak> Helsinkiii: no worries, log out, right, where you type your name/password, there is an option to change session, use gnome this time instead of kde
[14:16] <Helsinkiii> i c
[14:16] <Helsinkiii> brb
[14:17] <wise_crypt> hey ... will i be screwing my system if i uprade libglibmm-2.0 *to libglibmm-2.4
[14:17] <geekphreak> c_nick:  1 second plz
[14:17] <Helsinkiii> ahhhh it owkred!
[14:18] <wise_crypt> !patience
[14:18] <Helsinkiii> geekphreak im giving you a virtual hug
[14:18] <Helsinkiii> geekphreak: what can i do now to get internet working on kde?
[14:18] <geekphreak> Helsinkiii:  welcome !!
[14:18] <Helsinkiii> yes!!!!!!!
[14:18] <geekphreak> Helsinkiii:  you will have to setup network manager there
[14:19] <MakSD4ew8974> #ubuntu-br
[14:19] <Helsinkiii> i c
[14:19] <Helsinkiii> i guess its just guess and test from here
[14:19] <Helsinkiii> since i know how to get back to GNOME
[14:19] <Helsinkiii> thank u so much
[14:19] <goldins> Does anyone know how to rig my computer such that when my phone is not in bluetooth discovery range, gnome-screensaver-command -l runs?
[14:20] <llutz> goldins: look for bluemon
[14:20] <geekphreak> c_nick:  did you install all pidgin plugins?
[14:20] <c_nick> yeah  i guess
[14:20] <look> I have dual monitors and i want a twin view with them but when i boot ubuntu it reverts back to the default settings, I have an Nvidia 9800GT, when i tell the nvidia display manager to save to the xorg.conf it says it cant sparse the file does anyone know what i am doing wrong>.<?
[14:20] <Samus_Aran> on an Ubuntu 9.10 system, there is no longer a libgtk1.2 package available, which I am needing.  anyone know how to acquire it after upgrading Ubuntu ?
[14:20] <c_nick> pidgin-plugins i clicked on that so i guess it should get installed
[14:20] <LzrdKing> goldins: so your computer locks when your phone dies?
[14:20] <Pici> wise_crypt: It will likely create problems.  Why do you need to do that?
[14:20] <geekphreak> c_nick:  ok open plugin manager please
[14:21] <goldins> LzrdKing: yep...
[14:21] <c_nick> k done
[14:21] <c_nick> next
[14:21] <LzrdKing> look: run sudo nvidia-settings and it'll be able to save the settings
[14:21] <wise_crypt> Pici: build an app it need that version
[14:21] <geekphreak> scroll down look for 2 plugins pidgin_adacious
[14:21] <look> LzrdKing, tanks mishta =3
[14:21] <geekphreak> and musictracker
[14:21] <LzrdKing> look: when you just run nvidia-settings, it runs as a regular user that can't write to /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[14:22] <geekphreak> c_nick:  enable both of them , then start your audacious player and play some songs on it
[14:22] <geodatma1> hi
[14:22] <look> LzrdKing, well i guessed that but i didn't know what command that runs the Nvidia display manager
[14:22] <c_nick> uh i dont have adacious ?
[14:22] <geekphreak> c_nick:  you know how to install them
[14:22] <rocket16> lol, :D
[14:22] <LzrdKing> well, i solved my monitor-blanking problem last night; i installed new nvidia drivers.  i'm not sure if it was the new drivers or just the reinstallation but its fixed now
[14:22] <geekphreak> c_nick:  you see musictracker though ?
[14:22] <c_nick> yes
[14:23] <rocket16> !hi | geodatma1
[14:23] <geekphreak> enable it , first try with that ok
[14:23] <Pici> wise_crypt: What version of Ubuntu are you running currently?
[14:23] <wise_crypt> Pici: if you said so, i wont install it the app is replaceable anyway
[14:23] <wise_crypt> Pici: lsb_release -a ?
[14:23] <androm> i have ubuntu 9.10 and nautilius crashes after deleting some files - how can i put nautilius into a verbose/debug mode?
[14:23] <Pici> wise_crypt: Yes.
[14:23] <c_nick> not working
[14:23] <wise_crypt> Pici: intrepid hehe to old isn it ?
[14:24] <stanowisko> dfgfd
[14:24] <stanowisko> tjurt
[14:25] <LzrdKing> wise_crypt: its old but its still supported
[14:25] <Pici> wise_crypt: Its still supported for a little longer.  Anyway, I see libglibmm-2.4-dev in intrepid's repositories
[14:25] <theadmin> Hello everyone. I inform you that update to Lucid was very smoothly, and I'm ready to help people again.
[14:25] <Pici> wise_crypt: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libglibmm&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[14:25] <wise_crypt> Pici: yup they are exist, is it save to install ?
[14:26] <Pici> wise_crypt: If its in the repo, then it should be safe to install.
[14:26] <lomat_> hi there ,I got a problem with my X-server, When I start totem to play video,X crashed,there is only a black-screen,and I had to reboot my pc by the power button, Is anybody can help me ?
[14:26] <wise_crypt> Pici: i see
[14:26] <androm> theadmin: i have ubuntu 9.10 and nautilius crashes after deleting some files - how can i put nautilius into a verbose/debug mode?
[14:26] <geekphreak> c_nick left?
[14:26] <theadmin> androm: let me see the manpages.
[14:26] <Pici> wise_crypt: I don't see 2.0 in any of the supported releases repositories
[14:26] <CaptainTrek> Pici: got a question fer ya.  I'm running a server, i set up a domain to route to the IP, and the thing denies the connection even though its on the right port.  if you have any ideas, please throw them at me
[14:27] <theadmin> androm: It doesn't seem to have a verbose mode
[14:27] <CaptainTrek> or if you wish to send me to -server, tell me
[14:27] <androm> :`(
[14:27] <androm> ye, i couldnt see any either
[14:27] <ikonia> CaptainTrek: the "thing" ?
[14:27] <Pici> CaptainTrek: What are you serving?
[14:27] <thatguy_> hi all
[14:27] <wise_crypt> Pici: The following packages will be upgraded: libglib2.0-0
[14:27] <michael_> Helloo
[14:28] <wise_crypt> Pici: intrepid as in backtrack 4
[14:28] <Pici> wise_crypt: We do not support Backtrack here.
[14:28] <tarelerulz> I installing Ubunt 10.04 in virtual box and This kernel requires an x86-64 cpu ,but only detects an i686. Uable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu
[14:28] <Pici> wise_crypt: Please use their support channel: #backtrack-linux
[14:28] <Pici> tarelerulz: Please use #ubuntu+1 for 10.04 questions
[14:28] <thatguy_> using the USB startup disk creator with the live cd, every time i boot it asks if i want to "Try ubuntu" or install it... does anyone know how i can have it just skip that menu and boot into the persistent live mode?
[14:28] <LzrdKing> tarelerulz: use 32-bit ubuntu
[14:28] <wise_crypt> Pici: hehe
[14:29] <CaptainTrek> Pici / ikonia: SSH access to a server.  the "thing" is the server.  SSH access is set up on port XYZ and it allows the MOTD / security alert message to show, asks for the password, then after the correct password is given it auto-closes the connection
[14:29] <CaptainTrek> any ideas?
[14:29] <mirsisi> hi! i have a wacom pen and touch and am running ubuntu i cant seem to get it to work. Ive already been to wacoms site. Can someone please walk me through getting it to work? thanks so much
[14:29] <geekphreak> thatguy_: you will have to change boot device in bios
[14:29] <Pici> CaptainTrek: When connecting with ssh, use -vvv and pastebin it
[14:29] <ikonia> CaptainTrek: a.) check that public passwords are allowed, that sounds like a key only server b.) make sure it's an authorized account eg: it's not root, and it has a valid login shell
[14:30] <tarelerulz> Are many of you useing Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[14:30] <thatguy_> thx geekphreak ... it boots into the usb stick fine, and persistence works, it's just bugging me that i have to click "Try ubuntu" every time
[14:30] <ikonia> thatguy_: people in #ubuntu+1 are
[14:30] <CaptainTrek> !lucid | tarelerulz
[14:30] <wise_crypt> Pici: so does it still save now to upgrade?
[14:30] <lomat_> My X crashed when I start totem to play video, is anybody can help me ?
[14:30] <theadmin> ikonia: not only them though :D
[14:30] <Pici> wise_crypt: I don't know.  You'll need to ask Backtrack's support.
[14:30] <ikonia> wise_crypt: backtrack is not supported here
[14:30] <theadmin> ikonia: But your point is quite still clear
[14:30] <ikonia> wise_crypt: and upgrading to interpid breaks the system
[14:30] <wise_crypt> Pici: ok guys
[14:30] <CaptainTrek> wow... that's stupid... it wasn't working, but now it works...
[14:30] <CaptainTrek> >.<
[14:31] <geekphreak> thatguy_:  oh ok , i dont know about that sorry
[14:31] <thatguy_> np thx anyway geekphreak
[14:31] <sobi> hey
[14:31] <CheckmatePC> Known issues with Dell E510 w/ 9.10?
[14:31] <sobi> from poland
[14:31] <theadmin> ubottu: pl | sobi
[14:31] <sobi> ok i know
[14:32] <wise_crypt> !id | manusia^bodoh
[14:32] <theadmin> Gah. Everything goes on creating tray icons with white background, which ruins my black theme. Any solution?
[14:33] <ikonia> wise_crypt: why did you give him the id factoid ?
[14:33] <mirsisi> hi! i have a wacom pen and touch and am running ubuntu i cant seem to get it to work. Ive already been to wacoms site. Can someone please walk me through getting it to work? thanks so much
[14:33] <wise_crypt> ikonia: he is my fellow countryman
[14:33] <lomat_> 大家好，初来此地，请多关照！
[14:33] <look> LzrdKing, it still said it could not parse the xorg.conf file
[14:33] <ikonia> wise_crypt: so ? he has everyright to be here
[14:33] <theadmin> ubottu: jp | lomat_
[14:33] <wise_crypt> ikonia: hehe
[14:34] <theadmin> ...I assume that was japanese
[14:34] <ikonia> wise_crypt: I'm not laughing
[14:34] <wise_crypt> ikonia: i am
[14:34] <CaptainTrek> its not theadmin :P
[14:34] <CaptainTrek> i dont think it is at least
[14:34] <Pici> !zh | lomat_
[14:35] <theadmin> Why are DVD ISO's better? They have more languages, anything else?
[14:35] <wookienz> another question. wheni mount a cifs share fom my NAS, it is owned by 1002syslog. As an ordinary ubuntu user i cant access the directory. Why/what  is syslog and why cant i mount it as me as the owner?
[14:36] <mirsisi>  i have a wacom pen and touch and am running ubuntu i cant seem to get it to work. Ive already been to wacoms site. Can someone please walk me through getting it to work? thanks so much
[14:36] <jack_> What's the easiest way to install ubuntu on lvm? i've heard the alternative disk will work. any body know for sure?
[14:37] <Pici> jack_: It will.
[14:37] <theadmin> WHAT THE F--- Flash got removed o_O
[14:37] <jack_> Pici: is that the best way to go about it?
[14:37] <Pici> theadmin: Please mind your language, also remember that #ubuntu+1 is for Lucid.
[14:37] <Pici> jack_: That or the Server CD, depending on what you're planning on installing.
[14:38] <theadmin> I'll try to reinstall first.
[14:38] <theadmin> I'd assume it's because firefox path changed
[14:38] <Pici> theadmin: hi
[14:38] <theadmin> Pici: uh, hi
[14:38] <Pici> theadmin: Are you running Lucid?
[14:39] <theadmin> Pici: Yes, yes, yes, heading off to #ubuntu+1 now
[14:39] <Pici> theadmin: okay :)
[14:40] <look> I have a dual monitor set up on my system and want to use it for twin view, when i use the nvidia display manager and get it all set up like i want it. i try and save the settings to the /etc/x11/xorg.conf files and it says it cannot parse (i ran sudo Nvidia-settings)
[14:41] <vuksamotnjak> heloo i cant install ubuntu 10.04...not just that i cant boot live cd here is pic of error http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/1092687_Slika0041.jpg
[14:41] <Pici> vuksamotnjak : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[14:41] <parkie> http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/1092687_Slika0041.jpg
[14:41] <parkie> http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/1092687_Slika0041.jpg
[14:41] <vuksamotnjak> ok thnx
[14:42] <Pici> parkie: ?
[14:42] <tga> howdy. I just assembled my raid on a new system and can't get lvm to see any volume groups -- how can I scan for them?
[14:42] <look> It gives me this error in the terminal VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[14:42] <look> Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default Screen".
[14:42] <parkie> my bad , lol
[14:42] <arvigeus> What means "Hard blocked: yes" on rfkill yes?
[14:42] <erUSUL> !lvm
[14:42] <arvigeus> Should I worry?
[14:43] <erUSUL> arvigeus: that the wifi (or BT) is bloqued by a physicall button of you laptop
[14:43] <tga> let me rephrase -- I tried to create a new vg when I couldn't see the old one, now vgscan doesn't see any existing vgs
[14:44] <tga> how can I tell whether I still have some data left?
[14:44] <look> tga, there would be a file there?
[14:44] <look> tga, or in a log?
[14:44] <arvigeus> erUSUL: Will that set 0 in rfkill/state file?
[14:44] <parkie> @pici what gear other than cpu,ram,mbo do you have plugged into the computer?
[14:45] <michael_> Please help with VirtualBox OSE 3.1.6 .tar.bz2 installation
[14:45] <Pici> parkie: I think you have me confused with someone else. I haven't asked a question.
[14:45] <e-DIO-t>  yO!
[14:45] <look> I have a dual monitor set up on my system and want to use it for twin view, when i use the nvidia display manager and get it all set up like i want it. i try and save the settings to the /etc/x11/xorg.conf files and it says it cannot parse (i ran sudo Nvidia-settings)
[14:45] <tga> look: I have my /dev/md0 up, then I do a pvscan and see my pv with NO vgs -- can I somehow recover my vgs?
[14:45] <erUSUL> arvigeus: what is "that2 in your sentence ?
[14:45] <Pici> michael_: virtual box is in the repos, is there a reason you're trying to install from an archive?
[14:45] <theadmin> Pici: There usually is, repos have the OSE version
[14:45] <look> tga, i would not know
[14:46] <Pici> theadmin: Hes asking about the OSE version
[14:46] <theadmin> Pici: Oh.
[14:46] <michael_> Pici Yes, in the repos there isn`t the latest version.
[14:46] <llutz> and there are .deb for the PUEL-version too
[14:46] <Pici> michael_: Please install it from a .deb file then, it will be much easier.  I believe  they offer that on their website.
[14:46] <Seena> hi, how to set the environment variable in ubuntu
[14:47] <erUSUL> Seena: for all users ?
[14:47] <arvigeus> erUSUL: Will the hard switch place something in "/sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/state"?
[14:47] <llutz> Seena: globally /etc/environment
[14:47] <erUSUL> arvigeus: yes probably
[14:47] <look> !fail
[14:47] <michael_> Yes, but I have problems with resolution (XP guest), it doesn`t offer me the hiighest res
[14:47] <arvigeus> Cool
[14:47] <Seena> erUSUL, for DJANGO_ENVIRONMENT_MODULE
[14:47] <llutz> michael_: did you install the guest-additions?
[14:47] <arvigeus> No need to check for it everytime
[14:48] <michael_> Yes
[14:48] <michael_> The res was higher, but not the highest
[14:48] <erUSUL> Seena: who/what would be using that var ? use /etc/environment as llutz pointed out
[14:48] <Pici> Seena: It may be better to ask in #django about that, or take a look at django's online documentation about properly setting it.
[14:48] <rahulthecrazy> hii i am using ubuntu 8.1 on hp dv6640 .it comes with a fingerprint scanner .....can sumone suggest some drivers for the fingerprint reader(authentec in my case)
[14:48] <kamil> hay
[14:49] <Seena> Pici, but i am not able to join that community
[14:49] <look> can some one help me with my problem on the dual screen issue? it keeps saying "VALIDATION ERROR: data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it wont save my settings for my dual screens
[14:49] <Pici> Seena: You need to register and identify first.
[14:49] <Pici> !register | Seena
[14:49] <michael_> Thank you, Anyway, i`ve installed OSE from repos. And installed Wine from VB.
[14:49] <tasslehoff> to get a fresh gnome-start, what must I delete besides .gconf* and .gnome2*?
[14:49] <Seena> ubottu, thank you
[14:49] <h00k> tasslehoff: .metacity, if you have one
[14:49] <michael_> Now works better, but on OSE is much more laggy than in normal
[14:50] <rahulthecrazy> hii i am using ubuntu 8.1 on hp dv6640 .it comes with a fingerprint scanner .....can sumone suggest some drivers for the fingerprint reader(authentec in my case
[14:50] <Seena> Pici, thanks, will try
[14:51] <parkie> @ rahulathecrazy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376432
[14:51] <h00k> rahulthecrazy: you might want to check out Thinkfinger
[14:51] <rahulthecrazy> tahnks :parkie
[14:52] <geekphreak> h00k: howdy
[14:52] <rsa> anyone know if i can use compwiz fusion on linux4one?  I believe it ubuntu.
[14:52] <h00k> geekphreak: hello
[14:53] <wookienz> i have a mounted filesystem from a NAS, uing CFIS. I have forced it to use gid=0 and uid =0, however it wont let me write to the directory. WTF?
[14:53] <llutz> wookienz: uid/gid 0 = root
[14:53] <h00k> rsa: Because it's not an official derivative, you're going to have to check with their documentation
[14:53] <wookienz> yup
[14:53] <parkie> @ wokkienz sudo chmodd that shit
[14:53] <wookienz> testing, otherwise it gets mounted as 1002;dhcp
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:54] <wookienz> parkie: i have!
[14:54] <llutz> parkie: won't work
[14:54] <parkie> haha
[14:54] <geekphreak> parkie: watch the language please
[14:54] <rsa> ok thank you i may wipe this and try a regular build of ubuntu
[14:54] <parkie> ;)
[14:54] <ChrisC_> Where do I discuss 10.04 problems with the RC? Thanks.
[14:54] <h00k> ChrisC_: check out #ubuntu+1
[14:54] <ChrisC_> Thanks.
[14:54] <sweb> how can I set the BIOS for virtual hardware for using in virtual box
[14:54] <sweb> http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#hwvirt
[14:54] <sweb> ?
[14:54] <FloodBot2> sweb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:54] <ChrisC_> exit
[14:55] <tasslehoff> h00k: and perhaps some .config-stuff?
[14:55] <wookienz> i dont understadn why when i cannect to the NAS using CIFS, proving the right credential it gets mounted as 1002:dhcp as the user, owner - i still cant write to the folder.. i cant create directories but not files.
[14:55] <Pici> sweb: That is more appropriate for #vbox
[14:55] <h00k> tasslehoff: yeah, depending on what you want to reset, those three will reset the gnome environment
[14:55] <organic> sveb
[14:55] <geekphreak> cya folks, have a good one
[14:56] <tasslehoff> h00k: great. thanks :)
[14:56] <pzn> I need to do a full-backup of my ubuntu before replacing HD. Now I have a ntfs external HD with enough space available. I intend to do: cat /dev/sda > /media/backup/file (sda is old HD, not mounted; /media/backup is external HD). will I have problem for creating an ntfs file of about 80Gb?
[14:56] <greezmunkey> wookienz: Is this in a domain environment?
[14:57] <llutz> pzn: you won't
[14:57] <malcolm> hello everyone
[14:57] <pzn> llutz, thanks!!!
[14:57] <wookienz> greezmunkey: no
[14:57] <llutz> pzn: but why don't you use tar, saves a lot of space/time
[14:57] <malcolm> I'm loving the new look of ubuntu
[14:57] <wookienz> pzn i think dd might be more your thing
[14:57] <h00k> pzn: you might want to check out 'dd' and you can pipe it to a file
[14:57] <malcolm> however have an issue with my display - ATI
[14:58] <greezmunkey> wookienz: How does the NAS *know* you?
[14:58] <parkie> so does catting something just  copy it as a binary file(folders and files).. just like cp?
[14:58] <LzrdKing> pnzyou can use dd and pipe it through gzip too
[14:58] <sweb> Pici, vbox need BIOS configure for using hardware simulation
[14:58] <malcolm> seems the standard/basic drivers allowed for the "higher performance transtions"
[14:58] <llutz> dd has "of=" no need to pipe
[14:58] <pzn> wookienz, h00k: yes, 'dd' will be smarter than cat >
[14:58] <malcolm> i've installed that lastest ATI drivers, but now I dont get the fantasy transitions
[14:58] <malcolm> :(
[14:58] <wookienz> greezmunkey: i mount with -ouser=me,password=pass etc so it allows me to mount
[14:58] <Pici> sweb: You're asking about configuring vbox.  Surely vbox's support channel would know more about that than we would.
[14:58] <LzrdKing> pzn: you can use dd and pipe it through gzip too
[14:58] <LzrdKing> parkie: if you cat a device like /dev/sda1, it will cat the raw disk
[14:58] <llutz> parkie: cat /dev/sda  does nearly the same as dd
[14:59] <pzn> llutz, don't want to have problem with userids/groups and extended posix permissions... I don't think tar handles them.
[14:59] <wookienz> can you just "dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/image" ?
[14:59] <llutz> pzn: sure does tar handle them
[14:59] <egoleo> hello i am trying to use ubuntu to recover an lvm partition. and i want to make a physical copy since is got a bad sectors
[14:59] <LzrdKing> wookienz: yes
[14:59] <wookienz> dd!
[14:59] <LzrdKing> afaik
[14:59] <wookienz> egoleo: dd!
[14:59] <parkie> llutz: thanks
[14:59] <llutz> wookienz: bs=4k   to speed it up a bit
[15:00] <sweb> Pici, you don't get my mean ... I need to my os UBUNTU have a BIOS configuration
[15:00] <sweb> that
[15:00] <wookienz> greezmunkey: any other ideas?
[15:00] <sweb> vbox use it
[15:00] <wookienz> llutz: thats about my limit of dd!! ;)
[15:00] <h00k> llutz: cat just prints files to standard output, dd is way more exactly what you need
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> wookienz: you can, i suggest you do it in livecd
[15:00] <pzn> llutz, does tar handles extended acl? will I have trouble for recovering if the machine used for recovering does not have the same users/groups?
[15:00] <egoleo> i am getting this error from this command dd /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 /media/bk/backup.iso bs=64k conv=noerror,sync
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> wookienz: i'd suggest partimage too as it will compress the data
[15:00] <utilisateur> ù*
[15:00] <llutz> h00k: cat on a device does the same as dd does
[15:00] <utilisateur> :mm
[15:00] <llutz> h00k: cat /dev/sda   not cat /mount/bla
[15:00] <egoleo> what is wrong with this command plse dd /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 /media/bk/backup.iso bs=64k conv=noerror,sync
[15:00] <utilisateur> hhheey
[15:00] <greezmunkey> wookienz: can you create a username/password on the NAS that matches your ubuntu login/password, have you tried that?
[15:01] <llutz> egoleo: if of missing
[15:01] <utilisateur> u a d gen ki sai parler en francais svp
[15:01] <h00k> llutz: but with dd, you can provide more options if necessary
[15:01] <h00k> !fr | utilisateur
[15:01] <egoleo> how do u mean if of missing
[15:01] <pzn> llutz, I'll stay with the full-filesystem copy... I think it will be slower, but I'll be safer :-)
[15:01] <Pici> sweb: I'm confused
[15:01] <LzrdKing> egoleo: well for onw thing, it won't create an ISO
[15:01] <llutz> egoleo: man dd
[15:01] <wookienz> greezmunkey: i could, but sholdnt matter as i map these drives on other nix boxes with no issues
[15:01] <parkie> is there a way to turn on ABE ( like on the windows Smb ) with samba on ubuntu?
[15:02] <CarpeDiem> how can i copy all my files in /home to another directory and add .bac to their name?
[15:02] <rahulthecrazy> hii all i hav installed the package for thinkfinger........in my hp dv6640 but my problem is how to use the fingerprint reader???
[15:02] <wookienz> do you knwo why it gets mounted as 1002:dhcp?
[15:02] <jrib> CarpeDiem: are you trying to make a backup?  See ubottu
[15:02] <jrib> !backup > CarpeDiem
[15:03] <CarpeDiem> ty, jrib
[15:03] <h00k> rahulthecrazy: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkFinger
[15:03] <greezmunkey> wookienz: sorry, I don't - other than to say that it is obviously an authentication problem.
[15:03] <wookienz> greezmunkey: ot get mounted, thats the thing.
[15:03] <pzn> CarpeDiem, that will change all the filenames, maybe you can copy and run "find" later. it may be slow, but it works. that is the line: find /some/path/ -type f -exec mv '{}' '{}.bac' ';'
[15:03] <wookienz> greezmunkey: it gets mounted, thats the thing. so i dont think it is
[15:03] <greezmunkey> wookienz: ot?
[15:04] <wookienz> s/ot/it
[15:04] <egoleo> thnx got it
[15:04] <greezmunkey> wookienz: I would try creating a user on the NAS that matches yours, and try again to see what happens.
[15:05] <CarpeDiem> ty, pzn
[15:05] <rahulthecrazy> @hook it says usb device not founf
[15:05] <CarpeDiem> renaming the files is my objective
[15:05] <rahulthecrazy> ThinkFinger 0.3 (http://thinkfinger.sourceforge.net/)
[15:05] <rahulthecrazy> Copyright (C) 2006, 2007 Timo Hoenig <thoenig@suse.de>
[15:05] <rahulthecrazy> Initializing...USB device not found.
[15:05] <greezmunkey> wookienz: if that works, you can troubleshoot from there.
[15:07] <greezmunkey> wookienz: It may let you mount, but does it only give you read access?
[15:07] <CarpeDiem> pzn, can i just replace mv to cp? in "find /some/path/ -type f -exec mv '{}' '{}.bac' ';'"
[15:07] <CarpeDiem> pzn, that will make copies of all files in the current dir?
[15:08] <jrib> CarpeDiem: it's pretty pointless to do what you are asking, that's why I pointed you to the wiki
[15:08] <rahulthecrazy> can sumone help me with the finger print reader drivers for hp ???/
[15:09] <CarpeDiem> jrib, its a school exercise...I know its pointless but i have to...
[15:09] <wookienz> greezmunkey: yes, can read, can even wirte directories just not files
[15:09] <greezmunkey> wookienz: yeah, that's pretty wierd...usually wierd=permissions.
[15:10] <jrib> CarpeDiem: well in my opinion you should do the exercise, then point out a better way and why it is better
[15:10] <CarpeDiem> yes, a better way would be to include tar in the whole process and voila
[15:11] <wookienz> ok how do i add my user to sudoers file
[15:11] <ikonia> weva: visudo
[15:11] <ikonia> weva: however if you just add your user to the admin group - it will have full sudo accounts
[15:11] <greezmunkey> wookienz: I have to leave that to others, got to get ready for work...good luck. :)
[15:11] <wookienz> ok thanks for your help
[15:11] <wookienz> google is my firend
[15:12] <greezmunkey> wookienz: yup!
[15:12] <llutz> wookienz: "sudo adduser youruser admin"
[15:12] <greezmunkey> laters
[15:12] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[15:12] <llutz> wookienz: if you really want him to have full sudo access
[15:13] <roy_> Anyone know if there is a way to use Microsoft .NETv2 programs on ubuntu ?
[15:13] <PrototypeX29A> some (presumably me) fridged up, the way evolution lists my emails, now i cannot sort them by incoming date anymore, because they are sorted by subject or thread or something. How can I sort it by date?
[15:13] <goez> PrototypeX29A: isn't there a date field on top ? else just click it ?
[15:14] <organic> How do I change IP on Ubuntu?
[15:14] <p8david> is ubuntu server the best distribution to install for a production server ?
[15:14] <goez> don't use evolution myself
[15:14] <goez> organic: static?
[15:14] <llutz> !best|p8david:
[15:14] <goez> p8david: I prefer debian for server
[15:14] <ikonia> p8david: that's just down to personal taste
[15:14] <h00k> PrototypeX29A: actually, just click the 'date' column
[15:14] <PrototypeX29A> goez: no, it does not work.
[15:14] <organic> roy_ Have you tried Wine or Crossover software?
[15:14] <rocket16> Any Physics Diagram software for Ubuntu? I mean, for plotting Mirror Diagrams etc? I tried Kig, but it is mainly for Maths.
[15:15] <goez> organic: u can set ip in gnome in the network manager, or trough terminal in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:15] <LzrdKing> is it normal when exporting 2 nfs shares to have 8 copies of nfsd running?
[15:15] <organic> goez thnx
[15:15] <PrototypeX29A> goez: i can change the order of the threads by this, but the mails are still bundled by thread
[15:15] <roy_> organic: The program doesnt work using wine
[15:16] <daniel91> hi all, is there a way to extend my ubuntu partition more without reinstalling?
[15:16] <h00k> roy_: I think you're out of luck with .net and compatability
[15:16] <PrototypeX29A> h00k: does not help
[15:16] <p8david> ok thanks
[15:16] <h00k> daniel91: you can resize your partition from a liveCD/liveUSB
[15:17] <h00k> daniel91: from there, it will be System->Administration->GParted
[15:17] <helo> (sorry ops, that was an unintentional side effect of clearing my typed message without holding backspace for 30 seconds)
[15:17] <blod> having an issue with my dlink dwl-g122 usb: http://pastebin.com/jRUvaJcJ
[15:17] <parkie> @daniel91 http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[15:17] <PrototypeX29A> h00k, goez: just found it there was some flag "group by thread" which apprently got set
[15:17] <daniel91> thanks hook and parkiew
[15:17] <roy_> what about crossover, that looks pretty interesting, would that work ?
[15:17] <Pici> daniel91, parkie: gparted is 1) on the Ubuntu LiveCD and 2) in the ubuntu repositories
[15:18] <organic> roy_ there is a "crossover linux" for such things, I think it might work
[15:18] <goez> PrototypeX29A: ah lol :p
[15:18] <h00k> roy_: that is 'wine' with some different settings, you can try it, but as far as I'm aware, .NET doesn't play well.
[15:18] <PrototypeX29A> goez: it is me fighting with modern day GUIs
[15:18] <daniel91> can i run gparted on my live distro, or do i need to do it from a livecd?
[15:19] <h00k> daniel91: to resize a partition, you cannot have it mounted
[15:19] <daniel91> ok
[15:19] <daniel91> thx
[15:19] <blackxored> Hello everbody
[15:20] <blackxored> how are you guys doing? May I have a good reference on why I log in using ssh -X and still the $DISPLAY variable isn't set?
[15:20] <blackxored> Anyone has a clue about it???
[15:20] <wookienz> ok i have added a user to my ubuntu box as the same user as my NAS. same password. When i connect i have to use sudo.I get permission denied unlessi explicitly define the user, ie with -ouser= since the suername that I am signed on as is the same as the nas shouldnt this do? or does sudo pass root?
[15:20] <organic> goez Can you tell me pls the exact way how to change the ip on ubuntu, because I know nothing about such things, besides i`m new to linux
[15:21] <goez> organic: on the shell or gnome?
[15:21] <blackxored> If I use ssh -X I can't still launch graphical applications, because my $DISPLAY variable isn't set, can someone tell me why this is happening??? Or how to solve it?
[15:21] <Pici> blackxored: You need to set $DISPLAY before you connect with ssh -X
[15:22] <blackxored> Pici, right, were should I point it to??
[15:22] <Pici> blackxored: Do you have an X server running from the computer you're trying to ssh from?
[15:22] <Pici> s/from/on/
[15:22] <h00k> organic: if you right click on your network manager -> edit connections, you can change your settings like static IP there
[15:22] <organic> goez gnom,e
[15:23] <blackxored> Pici, yes, as a matter of fact, I'm trying to run apps from my desktop on my notebook, X servers on both
[15:23] <goez> organic: check PM
[15:23] <Pici> blackxored: what does echo $DISPLAY say in the terminal on your notebook?
[15:24] <blackxored> on my notebook is :0.0
[15:24] <blackxored> Pici, ^^^^
[15:24] <LzrdKing> is it normal when exporting 2 nfs shares to have 8 copies of nfsd running (in addition to nfsd4 and nfsiod)?
[15:24] <wertwertgfhjrer> is there a command which only shows me the ip?
[15:25] <Pici> blackxored: And what are you trying to run?
[15:25] <Pici> wertwertgfhjrer: The ip of what?
[15:25] <blackxored> Pici, anything
[15:25] <wertwertgfhjrer> the ip of eth0 for example
[15:25] <wertwertgfhjrer> internal ip
[15:25] <CarpeDiem> Assume  i want to copy all files .sh extention to another map. How can i do so?
[15:26] <blackxored> Pici, I do ssh -X desktop, and try for example xchat, and I get (xchat:32218): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[15:26] <blackxored> Pici, see my display on the remote host isnt being set, I wonder why
[15:26] <goez> wertwertgfhjrer: ifconfig ethx | grep "inet addr"
[15:27] <goez> gives you ip, broadcast and netmask
[15:27] <blackxored> any clues? I know this is simple, I believe
[15:28] <wertwertgfhjrer> goez, yes but i only need the ip
[15:28] <lukasz1> how do I configure touchpad on Ubuntu 9.10 karmic?
[15:29] <llutz> CarpeDiem: cp -ar *.sh dest/
[15:30] <CarpeDiem> ty llutz
[15:30] <Pici> blackxored: Can you try with -Y instead of -X ?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> wertwertgfhjrer, ip a | grep inet
[15:30] <blackxored> Pici, the trusted version, ok I'll try, I was checking my ssh config
[15:31] <alex_rocha> Hi....I have a problem....The Ubuntu 9.10 dont recognize my bluetooth adapter....Anybody help me ?
[15:31] <blackxored> Pici, same issue
[15:31] <blackxored> I will try to set it manually to troubleshoot  it
[15:32] <blackxored> Pici, can't open display <myip>:0.0
[15:32] <alex_rocha> Please....anybody !!!
[15:32] <wertwertgfhjrer> BluesKaj, the thing is that i only want to see the ip of eth0, so far i did not succeed
[15:32] <CarpeDiem> llutz, i get "cp: cannot stat `*.bac': No such file or directory"
[15:32] <Pici> !patience | alex_rocha
[15:33] <Dravekx> anyone have a link on how to setup ubuntu server for hosting accounts?
[15:33] <mopperwhite> hi
[15:33] <alex_rocha> Ok
[15:33] <blackxored> Pici, anything, just doesn't work
[15:33] <BluesKaj> wertwertgfhjrer,your eth0 IP and your pc IP are the same
[15:34] <Poseidon> bonjour
[15:34] <mopperwhite> well...what should I do?
[15:34] <llutz> CarpeDiem: find path/ -name *.sh -exec cp {} dest/ \;
[15:34] <mopperwhite> Nobody answer me...
[15:34] <Mosiah> hi, I have a question ubuntu 32 bit works nice with amd phenom and 8GB ram or i have to use 64 bit? I'll get the pc tomorrow and need to download ubuntu
[15:35] <Arvant> can help me abut internet connection sharing in network?
[15:35] <Pici> blackxored: Can you try installing xauth on the computer you're trying to ssh to?
[15:35] <Dravekx> I have some friends who want a website, and I have ubuntu server on a dell home server. can someone point me to a link on how to set them up for hosting so they can access their own accounts?
[15:35] <llutz> Mosiah: 32bit only uses 3.3GB RAM without PAE, so better use 64bit
[15:35] <blackxored> Pici, yes I could certainly do it, but that should work out of box, shouldn't it
[15:36] <Mosiah> lluts: thanks
[15:36] <Pici> blackxored: Yes, it should.
[15:36] <Dravekx> or maybe ubuntu isnt the best for hosting.
[15:36] <blackxored> Pici, it's already installed
[15:36] <Arvant> network with ubuntu server getaway and windows client
[15:36] <wertwertgfhjrer> BluesKaj, yes but i can still have wifi ip
[15:36] <InHisName1> In comparing 'free' command with 'System Monitor'  one says 7,902,840k used and other reports 2.7GiB(34.3%) of 7.8GiB being used.  Why does 'free' report a much larger 'used' memory ?
[15:36] <Pici> blackxored: darn.
[15:36] <CarpeDiem> ty llutz
[15:37] <mopperwhite> I don't understand what are you talking about......
[15:37] <goez> InHisName1: kb -> gb
[15:37] <BluesKaj> wertwertgfhjrer,wifi or eth0 the IP is the same , yes
[15:38] <goez> InHisName1: try free -g
[15:38] <llutz> InHisName1: one reports used with buffers/cache included, the other doesn't
[15:38] <Pici> blackxored: I'm not suer, this should be easy.
[15:39] <mopperwhite> I tried to surf the Internet on Puppy Linux but I could't do it.
[15:39] <Arvant> can help me abut internet connection sharing in network?
[15:39] <blackxored> Pici, I uncommented ForwardX11Trusted on /etc/ssh/config and it worked now I have remote gedit running on my notebook
[15:39] <llutz> !ics > Arvant
[15:39] <mopperwhite> Oh my god!Isn't there any Chinese??
[15:40] <ahox> wertwertgfhjrer: something like that?ifconfig eth0|egrep -o 'inet addr:[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+ '|cut -b 11-
[15:40] <h00k> !cn | mopperwhite
[15:40] <mopperwhite> Thanks!
[15:42] <rockman> Good evening every one.
[15:42] <Dravekx> if anyone has some time to kill and wants to help setup a hosting home webserver, let me know.. I can use the help setting up the user accounts,
[15:42] <lazymon> Hi all, new to ubuntu and linux just installed latest ubuntu and my sound isn't working
[15:43] <blackxored> lazymon, which version are you running??
[15:43] <mopperwhite> Do you turn on the sound?
[15:43] <Pici> Dravekx: Have you seen the Ubuntu server guide? It probably could get you up and running fast.
[15:44] <mopperwhite> I can't find "Ubuntu-cn"...
[15:44] <h00k> mopperwhite: /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:44] <Arvant> pleas help me about internet connection sharing in ubuntu 9.10
[15:44] <llutz> !ics > Arvant
[15:45] <mopperwhite> Let me have a try...
[15:46] <Arvant> the firestarter not work for me
[15:46] <mopperwhite> I did it!!Thanks!!!
[15:46] <lazymon> i am running 9.10
[15:46] <fluffman> so sometimes, mostly when my wife uses the computer, the monitors blank out after 10 minutes, then on waking up, the mouse is stuck between the two monitors
[15:47] <h00k> mopperwhite: :)
[15:47] <sajan> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 server on HP ML350 G4 server - after install i'm unable to boot the system - it's freezing after 'booting c:\'
[15:47] <sajan> any ideas?
[15:47] <lazymon> I types aplay -1 it said aplay wasnt recognized command
[15:48] <mbruins> hello i installed 9.10 and its great but, i really need an app that helps me play m$ silverlight movies. any suggestions?
[15:48] <fluffman> mbruins: look up moonlight
[15:48] <lazymon> nevermind it says invalid option 1
[15:49] <mbruins> fluffman: rt
[15:49] <mbruins> fluffman: ty
[15:49] <Dravekx> Pici, Ive read it a couple times... but the symlinks confuse me.
[15:49] <llutz> lazymon: aplay -l    not -1
[15:49] <Pici> Dravekx: Which part specifcally?
[15:49] <lazymon> oh
[15:49] <sajan> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 server on HP ML350 G4 server - after install i'm unable to boot the system - it's freezing after 'booting c:\', any ideas?
[15:50] <h00k> sajan: you're trying to boot linux on that? Linux doesn't use C:\
[15:50] <mbruins> fluffman: it worked. ive i would like to learn C but i have no code skills what so ever. what would be an easy way to introduce me to code? like what language? it would be great if it connects to C ofc
[15:50] <SwedeMike> about that ICS, on my 9.04 I just selected sharing on my eth0 and it successfully used my wlan0 internet connection for my computers behind it, nowhere near the difficulty in the !ics help
[15:50] <mbruins> fluffman: sorry that question what no directed to you
[15:50] <yogesh712harish> hello friends can u tell me why virtual box giving me such error...fatal: no bootable media is found
[15:50] <mbruins> more public
[15:51] <h00k> yogesh712harish: because it isn't finding anything bootable to boot with
[15:51] <yogesh712harish> hook: how can i sort this problem
[15:51] <fluffman> mbruins: if you're just learning about coding, start with HTML to learn about syntax, then python...because it's easy and fun!
[15:51] <sajan> h00k its not a message from system, but from this stupid machine - it has a lot of server staff installed (raid configurations and others)
[15:52] <h00k> yogesh712harish: I suppose you're going to have to check your settings and point it to a virtual machine or bootable iso or disk
[15:52] <TranceControl> Guys is there an app that can do batch uncompression from a directory and then into a new folder?
[15:52] <yadudoc> Hi, when i press ctrl+alt+F1 i used to get a terminal console... but now its not working..Does anyone know how to fix this ?
[15:52] <yogesh712harish> i have checked this...i am using virtual box 3.0
[15:53] <intgr> Can I tell "do-release-upgrade" to pre-fetch all necessary packages, but not actually do the upgrade yet?
[15:53] <Dravekx> Pici, I had someone help me set this up once, I cant remember exact though. something about symlinking /var/www to each home directory and then making it so each user's directory was accessible via the web.
[15:53] <Pici> yogesh712harish: Which operating system are you trying to install in vbox?
[15:53] <lazymon> aplay -l give me list of devices ALC660 analog Digital and modem
[15:53] <llutz> yogesh712harish:type      " /j #vbox "          and ask there
[15:53] <yogesh712harish> pici: first i have tried XP
[15:53] <Pici> yogesh712harish: Do you have your XP install CD?
[15:54] <yogesh712harish> pici: i have its nero image
[15:54] <Pici> yogesh712harish: Okay, probably best to ask in #vbox then
[15:54] <boolcrap> when a program crashes
[15:54] <boolcrap> where can i find details on the segmentation fault\
[15:54] <Dravekx> I might go back to windows server because i never could figure out how to access the other 168GB drive with linux. lol
[15:54] <yogesh712harish> pici: ok thank you
[15:54] <Pici> Dravekx: So you want people to have things like: server.com/~username/ ?
[15:55] <Dravekx> i dont want too, though... ubuntu seems a LOT faster
[15:55] <llutz> yogesh712harish: you cannot boot from nero-images
[15:55] <Dravekx> Pici, yes! :)
[15:55] <Shishire> join ##php
[15:55] <Shishire> er
[15:55] <hume> -se
[15:55] <Shishire> damn missing /
[15:55] <Pici> Dravekx: Okay, one moment, let me find your something.
[15:55] <Pici> s/your/you/
[15:55] <Dravekx> Pici, thanks!!! :)
[15:55] <lazymon> nm figured it out my speakers are busted on my lappy
[15:55] <Dravekx> Pici, Im starting from the beginning with a fresh install of ubuntu server 9.10
[15:56] <lazymon> headphones still work
[15:56] <InHisName1> I asked earlier about free mem in 'free' and SystemMonitor  ## Here is great explain of it all: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html
[15:56] <Pici> Dravekx: Do you have apache installed yet?
[15:57] <Dravekx> Pici, not yet... Ubuntu Server is installing now on the primary 128GB SSD of the new server.
[15:57] <diego> hola
[15:57] <Guest41880> alguien de uruguay
[15:59] <Pici> Dravekx: Okay, what you'll need to do once you install apache is to enable the mod_userdir module with "sudo a2enmod userdir" then add a line to your site's configuration in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default that says "UserDir public_html".
[15:59] <handjob>  Hi. How can i force ristretto to display photos according to date of last modification?
[15:59] <Pici> !es | Guest41880
[15:59] <mbruins> i installed ubuntu 9.10 with firefox and moonlight but have no video when watching silverlight/moonlight videos.. have sound though.. any suggestion?
[16:01] <Pici> Dravekx: Then, you can either add a folder to /etc/skel/ or have the users manually create the public_html folder in their home directory.  Just as long as www-data has read access to it (chmod o+r) then they will be able to get to it by going to server.com/~username
[16:01] <Pici> Dravekx: This is tha page from the apache2 documentation that explains the userdir module: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/public_html.html
[16:01] <Pici> Dravekx: Poke me if you have any questions, I'm usually around.
[16:02] <Dravekx> Pici, ok. I'm copy pasting things so I can remember. It's installing LAMP and SSH now.
[16:02] <Guest41880> hola
[16:02] <djoef> Hi, I have 2 sets of files, all files contain approximately 2400 lines that contain tab delimited values. I want to couple the corresponding files. The right couple of files can be found because there is a major overlap in data there. (although in the first set more tab delimited values are present per line compared with the second set)
[16:02] <djoef> can this be done through terminal commands ? Or should I write a program for this
[16:04] <djoef> in short, is there a command that compares files in 2 folders and gives you how similar certain files are, or how much "data" of file 1 can be found in file 2
[16:04] <Guest41880> sgsdfgs
[16:04] <lazymon> when installing packages in ubuntu, is there a way to turn off having to enter a password to authenticate everytime?
[16:04] <Guest41880> helo
[16:08] <raink> ls
[16:09] <m2rk0> hi. I'm tryng to run parano sfv checek, but I get python error ( /usr/bin/env: python -tt: No such file or directory ).
[16:09] <m2rk0> what should I do
[16:11] <Pici> millertimek1a2m3: When running what?
[16:11] <Shishire> lazymon: policykit might have a setting for it.  I forget what it's called in the menu, but it should be under System->Administration
[16:12] <millertimek1a2m3> Pici, what?
[16:12] <Pippinino> Hello, couyld you tell me please which is the ubuntu italian channel_
[16:13] <Pippinino> ?
[16:13] <hhlp> !it | Pippinino
[16:13] <Oer> !it | Pippinino
[16:14] <Pici> millertimek1a2m3: sorry, mistab.
[16:14] <Pici> m2rk0: What are you running that gives you that error?
[16:15] <Pippinino> thanks a lot
[16:15] <asdasdasdasdaw> hepinizin   a.q
[16:15] <asdasdasdasdaw> o.c lari
[16:15] <FLloyd> Bonsoir ^
[16:15] <FLloyd> j'ai un petit problème avec un .run :/
[16:16] <wertwertgfhjrer> how do i create a png file with todays date? i tried "touch `date`.png", but then i get 5 files
[16:16] <llutz> !fr
[16:17] <Oer> wertwertgfhjrer,  if you save the .png today, it should get the date of today
[16:17] <FLloyd> Oh shit wrong channel >.<
[16:17] <Pippinino> hello i can try in english here. i have got an old notebook with amd athlon xp 1800+ and 256 meg of ram, and xubuntu freezes when it starts to copy the files on hard disk
[16:17] <Pippinino> puppy linux does as well...
[16:17] <Pippinino> freezes when copying
[16:17] <Pippinino> what could it be?
[16:17] <Sacho> wertwertgfhjrer: man date for a way to format its output
[16:17] <m2rk0> Pici I try running parano sfv checker from terminal
[16:17] <asdasdasdasdaw> www.yougez.com
[16:17] <Pici> m2rk0: What is that? Is that in the repos?
[16:17] <Pippinino> memtest said after 10 passes ram is ok
[16:17] <asdasdasdasdaw> we expect
[16:18] <TranceControl> guys .. im trying to work this command : for a in */*.rar;do unrar x "$a";done
[16:18] <Pici> !piracy | asdasdasdasdaw
[16:18] <gucko1> hi guys
[16:18] <TranceControl> but how do i get it to drop the files it unrars into a special folder?
[16:18] <wertwertgfhjrer> Oer, no the filename should have todays time and date
[16:18] <bencc> I have a window with its header behind the top menu so I can't move it
[16:18] <Pici> wertwertgfhjrer: With spaces?
[16:18] <m2rk0> no
[16:18] <bencc> how can I access it?
[16:18] <gucko1> I want to buy a logitech mouse (MX Anywhere). Are there any problems with logitech and ubuntu?
[16:18] <miguel> hi
[16:19] <p8david> Is better to install service on ubuntu with apt-get, or with sources (.tar.gz) ? If by packages, why ?
[16:19] <m2rk0> Pici i found deb package from google,
[16:20] <Pici> m2rk0: Then you should see what support they provide.
[16:20] <Shishire> p8david: usually by packages, because it allows it to be updated "automatically"
[16:20] <forceflow> p8david: apt-get (the package archives) is the easiest way
[16:20] <forceflow> it allows automatic updates
[16:20] <forceflow> downside: it's not always the most cutting edge version
[16:21] <Shishire> however, it almost always is stable
[16:21] <Matti__> server gdansk.irc.pl
[16:21] <wertwertgfhjrer> got it touch "`date`".png
[16:21] <Pici> wertwertgfhjrer: yep :)
[16:22] <willbe> hey guys - anybody know how to turn off the ctrl+alt+left shortcut?
[16:22] <willbe> it normally changes the workspace - not great for doom
[16:22] <_pg_> willbe: compiz config i think
[16:22] <Oer> wertwertgfhjrer, touch filename-$(date +%F-%T)
[16:23] <m2rk0> can someone tell me good sfv checker with gui , where is possible to check folders what contain sfv files
[16:23] <willbe> _pg_ appearance?
[16:23] <_pg_> willbe: install compiz config settings manager thru synaptics
[16:23] <willbe> right
[16:23] <willbe> in theory I have compiz turned off though
[16:23] <Pici> m2rk0: Install cksfv or cfv from the reposoitories.
[16:23] <willbe> (in theory)
[16:23] <_pg_> willbe: there you can edit all compiz key bindings-there is undoubtedly an easier way, but thats the only way I know how
[16:23] <lazymon> is there a way to enable connect to a wifi internet on startup
[16:23] <_pg_> willbe: its still your window manager
[16:24] <m2rk0> I have like 2000 folders containing files packed with rar and including sfv and I need no check them all
[16:24] <_pg_> willbe: even if desktop effects are turned off
[16:24] <willbe> _pg_ there's a keyboard shortcuts menu, but that shortcut isn't one of those listed
[16:24] <_silentAssassin> organic: ??
[16:24] <_pg_> willbe: in compiz config settings manager?
[16:24] <willbe> nah - normal setting: just so you know I tried to solve the problem myself first :P
[16:24] <willbe> installing now
[16:24] <_pg_> willbe: it might be under the effect that its doing, rather than under a global binding pane
[16:25] <willbe> right
[16:25] <soreau> willbe: Its either rotate cube or wall plugin in ccsm
[16:25] <willbe> viewport switcher I should think...
[16:26] <soreau> willbe: You can go to Advanced Search, click on the little keyboard icon in the Filter box then press the keybinding to see which plugin its bound to for sure
[16:27] <willbe> hang on - trying to find this keyboard icon /:/
[16:28] <Dravekx> whew! server is up! :) fun part begins.
[16:28] <arinda> hi all, where can i view all available program for ubuntu?
[16:28] <willbe> hehe
[16:28] <willbe> cool - thanks guys :-)
[16:29] <willbe> soreau + _pg_ I just disabled anything value pertaining to desktop switching :P
[16:29] <soreau> arinda: synaptic package manager is one medium you can use to view packages
[16:30] <sinizzl> hello guys
[16:30] <Oer> arinda , synaptics, and the rest is on the internet
[16:30] <sinizzl> is there any way
[16:30] <sinizzl> to get ubuntu run WITHOUT upstart?
[16:30] <arinda> ya... but i want at official site or something else
[16:31] <willbe> hang on - now It's rescaling the windows with the same command :-S
[16:31] <wertwertgfhjrer> Pici, "touch "`date`".png". do you know how to get rid of the spaces?
[16:31] <llutz> wertwertgfhjrer: man date (+FORMAT)
[16:32] <Oer> arinda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoopList/
[16:32] <Oer> good start
[16:32] <arinda> ok, i'll check
[16:33] <lazymon> how to i get my wifi icon back
[16:33] <jacquesdupontd> salut
[16:34] <ouyes> hei , is there any tools in ubuntu to count the lines of c source codes?
[16:34] <genii> !fr | jacquesdupontd
[16:34] <willbe> I think this is a bug - I did a test: set the shortcut "maximize window height" to "ctrl + alt + left" but it was being masked by the compiz thing. I disabled that shortcut, then disabled compiz, but now I have the now removed shortcut when I press "control + alt + left" :-S
[16:34] <PrototypeX29A> there is an extra channel for quebecois?
[16:34] <shane2peru> ok is there an ftp way of transfering files from one remote server to another?
[16:35] <soreau> willbe: You can go to Advanced Search, click on the little keyboard icon in the Filter box then press the keybinding to see which plugin its bound to for sure
[16:35] <Urda> QUESTION: Anyway I can make my terminal window be 'maximized' and on startup?
[16:35] <soreau> Urda: yes
[16:36] <willbe> soreau they're all disabled :-S
[16:36] <Urda> soreau: Enlighten me when you have a moment :)
[16:37] <soreau> Urda: Add the terminal to your session startup programs, then have your window manager always make terminals maximized
[16:37] <Urda> soreau: whoops I'm stupid... on it's startup
[16:37] <arinda> how can i change permission for directory and it's root at the same time?
[16:37] <Urda> soreau: so every time I need to open a new window, I want a max terminal window. I'm on Gnome and Compiz I believe
[16:38] <edbian> I have an SSH server set up from my home and other people have set up bots that try to log into my server by randomly guessing user names and passwords.  I have a script set up that adds them to /etc/hosts.deny so it's not an issue for me really but should I report these people to my ISP ??
[16:39] <llutz> edbian: report them to THEIR sip
[16:39] <llutz> isp
[16:39] <duffydack> edbian, disable password auth and use keys
[16:39] <kaddi> Hi, I just installed wireshark, but wireshark says there's no interface it can capture traffic on. How to fix that?
[16:39] <edbian> llutz, In your opinion are they abusing their internet?
[16:39] <Shishire> kaddi: sudo wireshark
[16:39] <Pici> kaddi: run it using gksudo
[16:39] <edbian> duffydack, I'm aware of that option.
[16:39] <kaddi> oh
[16:39] <llutz> edbian: they do
[16:39] <lazymon> I had a wifi indicator logo at top right now its gone :(
[16:39] <duffydack> k
[16:39] <lazymon> how i get back
[16:39] <adalal> hey, i've got a dvr machine for a pub, is there a software to retrieve data of it on linux? like the enterprise pro surveillance system?
[16:41] <willbe> I think I'll restart and see what happens
[16:41] <soreau> Urda: In ccsm>Window Rules, set an always maximized rule for gnome-terminal or whichever you use
[16:41] <lazymon> adalal have you tried http://www.zoneminder.com/ it looks pretty sweet
[16:41] <street_dvd> hey
[16:41] <street_dvd> ho
[16:41] <nerdy_kid> how do i go about killing the intel i915 driver on a commandline install on ubuntu?  pls help
[16:42] <Dravekx> Pici, I enabled UserDir, added the line, restarted the server, but it's not working. :(
[16:42] <Urda> soreau: Ok, I see what I need to do thanks :)
[16:42] <street_dvd> Okay. My computer's sound craps out as soon as I watch a youtube video. What do I do?
[16:42] <lazymon> get new speakers
[16:42] <soreau> kill PA :P
[16:42] <street_dvd> Its not the speakers
[16:42] <soreau> ! pulseaudio
[16:42] <street_dvd> Killing PA doesnt fix it
[16:42] <lazymon> my lappy speakers died such a horrible horrible death
[16:43] <street_dvd> I think it might be an alsa problem
[16:43] <costre> street_dvd, How craps out? I know if I watch movies in mplayer and then watch youtube (sometimes) the sound screws up
[16:43] <soreau> lazymon: Was it slow and painful?
[16:43] <adalal> lazymon: thanks, just a question, i already have a hardware dvr setup, does zoneminder simply connect to it, to retrieve data?
[16:43] <soreau> street_dvd: Does it make a difference if you play the video with mplayer from /tmp/Flash*?
[16:44] <costre> street_dvd, I believe it works if I start firefox first, and mplayer second :)
[16:44] <street_dvd> costre: I watch a movie in youtube -> I close the window -> I open another youtube vid, sound doesnt work -> I open rhythmbox or mplayer, and the sond doesnt work
[16:44] <costre> street_dvd, Ah, that's news to me :)
[16:44] <soreau> Sounds like flash fail
[16:44] <street_dvd> Really?
[16:44] <street_dvd> all apps do it
[16:44] <street_dvd> like
[16:44] <street_dvd> sound craps out for everything
[16:44] <FloodBot2> street_dvd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <soreau> then your audio driver is crap
[16:45] <street_dvd> soreau: how do I get a better one -_-'
[16:46] <soreau> street_dvd: I had to get a pci audio card when my onboard audio crapped out. Its been working fine ever since though
[16:46] <street_dvd> soreau: I uninstalled alsa backports to see if it fixes the problem. I'm restarting now... *CROSSES FINGERS*
[16:46] <nerdy_kid> how do i unload the i915 kernel module?
[16:47] <genii> nerdy_kid: sudo modprobe -r i915
[16:47] <jacquesdupontd> sorry i thought i was typing on the french channel, hey everybody
[16:47] <xomp> hi, how do I give access to a user via the console?
[16:47] <soreau> nerdy_kid: Very carefully ;)
[16:47] <Dravekx> ill try UserDir /home/*/www
[16:47] <llutz> nerdy_kid: stop X, sudo modprobe -r i915
[16:48] <nerdy_kid> llutz got commandline install so no X -- just everything flashes and is barely readable after the first few secs of boot
[16:48] <soreau> llutz: It will probably say its in use and force unload might take down the console if using kms
[16:48] <kongove> quit
[16:48] <soreau> nerdy_kid: Try booting with nomodeset on the kernel line
[16:48] <nerdy_kid> soreau did..no help
[16:48] <H3ct0r> hey all, i need some gui builder for C and Basic in my ubuntu. so, how can i install that program through synaptic or apt-get?
[16:49] <Pici> Dravekx: Sorry, I missed your last line.  /home/*/www isn't going to work.  Are you placing the userdir directive inside of the virtualhost in 000-default?
[16:49] <soreau> nerdy_kid: Tried newer kernel and userspace components? (ie. Lucid)
[16:49] <nerdy_kid> soreau the modprobe commands arnt working am running lucid
[16:49] <soreau> ! lucid | nerdy_kid
[16:49] <tomato> greetings
[16:50] <soreau> ! hi | tomato
[16:50] <nerdy_kid> soreau yeah im running lucid flawlessly on one pc, just need to get it to use vesa for this other one
[16:50] <Pici> nerdy_kid: lucid support is *only* in #ubuntu+1
[16:50] <Dravekx> Pici, yes. I put UserDir public_html inside the virtualhost in 000-default. Then I created a directory called public_html inside user home/dravekx, but when you go to .com/dravekx, nothing comes up.
[16:51] <nerdy_kid> Pici arg ok , sorry didnt know that
[16:51] <Pici> Dravekx: You need to go to .com/~dravekx
[16:51] <geekphreak> H3ct0r:  hello use geany
[16:51] <linuxboy_> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu-desktop 9.10 onto a raid-1 partition?
[16:51] <Dravekx> oh
[16:51] <gucko1> I want to buy a logitech mouse (MX Anywhere). Are there any problems with logitech and ubuntu?
[16:52] <Dravekx> http://dravekx.dyndns.org/~dravekx/
[16:52] <Dravekx> WOOT!
[16:52] <p8david> what is the best company to buy a vps not so expensive ?
[16:52] <p8david> to install ubuntu server
[16:52] <Pici> p8david: Best to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:52] <Dravekx> Pici, thanks!! didn't see the tilde.
[16:52] <Pici> Dravekx: Its okay :)
[16:53] <H3ct0r> geekphreak, ok. thanks
[16:53] <tomato> I want to share files between 3 users, samba, myself and my newsgroup downloader (sabnzbd), should I create a group for all 3 users?
[16:53] <nasevz> after update to 10.04 I can't login. I get message "module is unknown". Anybody knows how to fix?
[16:53] <Pici> nasevz : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[16:54] <nasevz> tnx
[16:55] <nerdy_kid> anyone know what the kernel parameter to set vesa as the framebuffer is?
[16:55] <H3ct0r> what's similar program for macromedia/adobe flash?
[16:56] <motd> any suggestions for good gui download manager for linux
[16:56] <motd> ?
[16:56] <adalal> anyone knows if zoneminder can simply import video controls from an current hardware dvr that's already setup?
[16:56] <Oer> H3ct0r,  adobe flash non free
[16:56] <arvigeus> What is -gt switch in bash? Greater?
[16:56] <nerdy_kid> arvigeus greater then
[16:56] <arvigeus> cool
[16:57] <Pici> arvigeus: see: man test
[16:57] <Oer> H3ct0r, synaptic > flashplugin-installer
[16:57] <H3ct0r>  Oer, so.... i wanna to produce some flash animation. is there another program for that?
[16:58] <Oer> ah not the player, no H3ct0r i believe there is no equilavant
[16:58] <cage_raphel> Hello all..
[16:58] <H3ct0r> Oer, is there some gif/swf producer? i must include it on my site
[16:59] <cage_raphel> i have ubuntu on my first partition and solaris 10 on my second partition.. however i am not able to find solaris 10 in the ubuntu grub menu.. could anyone help me to add solaris 10 to my ubuntu grub menu
[17:00] <sebsebseb> Hi
[17:00] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: oh right uhmm
[17:00] <sebsebseb> Grub 2?
[17:01] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, any possiblities to add solaris 10 to the Ubuntu 9.1 grub menu.. i am fairly new and have no idea what has to be done
[17:01] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: Clean install of 9.10 right?
[17:02] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, i am sorry.. curse my ignorance.. what do u mean by clean install?
[17:02] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, u mean to ask if the installation was all fine? if so .. yes installation went perfectly well.
[17:02] <dima-linux> hello, i need help, i had wubi installed, now i installed ubuntu on other partition and can't select wubi by booting...
[17:03] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, this is what my grub menu shows.. /dev/sda1 - xfs file system -- ubuntu is installed..
[17:03] <dima-linux> i wanted to sync wubi with ubuntu..
[17:03] <geekphreak> dima-linux: should have uninstalled wubi first , if you were dual booting
[17:03] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: I am trying to find out if you actsauly got Grub 2 since you didn't answer that.  Clean install of Ubuntu 9.10 you get Grub 2 by default,  upgrades from 9.04 people still have the old Grub.  Anyway apparantly ( and actsually one of the  o p s of this channel told me this before) there is an issue when it comes to Ubuntu 9.10's version of Grub 2,  resulting in people not being able to just boot up other Linux distro's from it.  Yes
[17:03] <sebsebseb> Solaris insa't a Linux distro, but I guess it will be effected by the same issue.
[17:03] <geekphreak> ummm ok
[17:03] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, /dev/sda2 - file system unknown ( solaris is installed here ) ..
[17:04] <dima-linux> but i need data from wubi... how can i get back in wubi??
[17:04] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, ahh! ok .. how do i find out if i have grub 2 on my system?
[17:04] <geekphreak> dima-linux: when you choose windows , what menu yo get?
[17:04] <dima-linux> i get the ubuntu and windows xp menu
[17:05] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, i do have startup manager installed ..
[17:05] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: well as I already said,  by default Ubuntu 9.10 clean installs get it.
[17:05] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: if you installed from say the Ubuntu 9.10 CD, then yes you will have Grub 2 by default
[17:05] <dima-linux> but no wubi, it was 9.10 and ubuntu is 9.04 thats why i know, there is no wubi
[17:05] <sebsebseb> dima-linux: yeah you should have probably really uninstalled Wubi first before dual booting
[17:06] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, yes thats right.. i installed ubuntu 9.10 directly from the live cd.. so  i should be having Grub 2.. sounds good then.. but could u pls tell me how to add my solaris to my grub menu?'
[17:06] <llutz> cage_raphel: look at http://tinyurl.com/zb2as5
[17:06] <sebsebseb> dima-linux: I guess what has happended is.  the partition installed Grub has gone over.  the Wubi Grub and such
[17:06] <dima-linux> omg, but i have important data in wubi :(
[17:06] <Oer> wubi is the installer under windows, though?
[17:06] <dima-linux> yes
[17:06] <geekphreak> oer yes
[17:06] <cage_raphel> llutz, unable to access the site..  this is what i get .. Error: Unable to find site's URL to redirect to.
[17:06] <cage_raphel> Please check that the URL entered is correct. To learn more about TinyURL.com, please visit the homepage.
[17:07] <geekphreak> dima-linux:  is this xp?
[17:07] <dima-linux> yes, i've xp
[17:07] <cage_raphel> llutz, Error: Unable to find site's URL to redirect to.
[17:07] <cage_raphel> Please check that the URL entered is correct. To learn more about TinyURL.com, please visit the homepage.
[17:07] <Odd-rationale> maybe you can mount the wubi image as a disk and retrieve the data.
[17:07] <geekphreak> Odd-rationale:  can he do that ?
[17:07] <Oer> cage_raphel, url works fine
[17:07] <llutz> cage_raphel: works here, try again
[17:08] <cage_raphel> llutz, sure.. pls give me a moment
[17:08] <Odd-rationale> geekphreak: never done it, but i don't see why not. :)
[17:08] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: Apparantly only Ubuntu's Grub 2 has the issue I was on about,  where as the upstream Grub 2 would be ok.  Anyway with the old Grub it was nice and easy to boot up other OS's from it as well,  where as this doesn't quite seem to be the case with the new version.  I don't know enough about Grub 2 to be able to be able to help you properly,  I just wanted you to be aware that there may be an actsual proper issue,  oh and i'll get the bot
[17:08] <sebsebseb> to give you the Grub 2 link.  Stick around though and someone else may be able to help you properly.
[17:08] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | cage_raphel
[17:09] <Odd-rationale> dima-linux: are you on windows or ubuntu right now?
[17:09] <dima-linux> on ubuntu
[17:09] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, sure.. thank u so much :) much appreciated
[17:09] <Exposure257> afternoon
[17:09] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: Ok np, good luck!
[17:10] <Odd-rationale> dima-linux: can I pm you?
[17:10] <dima-linux> yes
[17:10] <gnulu> wassup, anybody useing 10.04
[17:10] <Pici> gnulu : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[17:10] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: You could actsaully install and use the old version of Grub in  9.10, but you probably don't really need to do that.
[17:10] <motd> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[17:10] <motd> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[17:10] <motd> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[17:10] <rizzo0917> question not specific to ubuntu, but running ubuntu.. php script trying exec gs command doesn't work through apache but work though the cli any ideas
[17:10] <motd> which package i need?
[17:10] <gnulu> i'm looking to see if anyone has used neatx, freenx
[17:10] <gnulu> i'm trying to test gaming wow remotely
[17:11] <Pici> rizzo0917: Have you asked in ##php ?
[17:11] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, that sounds simple enough.. how do i get back to grub from grub 2 ?
[17:12] <Vigo> cage_raphel: Is that the 130 Solaris?
[17:12] <llutz> motd: kdelibs4-dev
[17:12] <rizzo0917> Pici: you need to be invited
[17:12] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: Also that version is no longer supported upstream, so you can't get support for it in #grub  ,but you can just about still in here.  Well 9.04 for example isn't end of life yet, that will be October, and that's using the old Grub by default.  Plus 8.04 which will end of life  next year.
[17:12] <Pici> rizzo0917: you need to register and identify your nick
[17:12] <Pici> !register | rizzo0917
[17:12] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: it's in the repo
[17:12] <cage_raphel> Vigo, i am not sure .. how do i find if it is 130 solaris ? this is what i got when i typed sudo fdisk -l
[17:13] <cage_raphel> sudo fdisk -l
[17:13] <cage_raphel> [sudo] password for krishnaroona:
[17:13] <cage_raphel> Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[17:13] <cage_raphel> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[17:13] <cage_raphel> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[17:13] <FloodBot2> cage_raphel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:13] <cage_raphel> Disk identifier: 0x0002f1a2
[17:13] <BluesKaj> !paste | cage_raphel
[17:15] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: However distro's have already began  forcing or trying to force Grub 2 on people by default,  and I guess that's since the old version is no longer supported upstream, as I already mentioned.
[17:15] <jshriver> Greetings
[17:15] <mopperwhite> Hello
[17:15] <motd> llutz - im using kde3.. i have kdelibs3-dev installed already
[17:15] <motd> so whats the problem
[17:15] <jshriver> Anyone know via the cli how to clean up a filename by chopping of characters after a certain character? Basically I just grabbed all of smodcast
[17:15] <jshriver> and the files look like this:
[17:15] <jshriver> SModcast-93.mp3?nvb=20100423145835&nva=20100424150835&sid=42f5d1f5293ff3a1cc042bdcdce6a55f&t=09d91bca8dfb4d91f75d9
[17:16] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, oh okie..   looks like i cant paste stuffs here.. shall i paste my output of sudo fdisk -l  in a private chat?
[17:16] <Vigo> From the forums, relating to Solaris and dual booting:> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1370607
[17:16] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: uhmm
[17:16] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: no
[17:16] <llutz> jshriver: "rename"
[17:16] <Pici> jshriver: for a whole bunch of files? or just for one?
[17:16] <jshriver> 113 files
[17:16] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: well you could, but the idea is to use pastebin and then give people link
[17:16] <Vigo> !pastebin
[17:16] <jshriver> can do it via rename or mv, but thought there would be a quick way in bash with some regex to do it
[17:16] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, oh okie.. wait .. let me paste it in pastebin
[17:16] <llutz> jshriver: read "man rename"
[17:17] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, thanks for your patience though.. i know i have been such a dumb guy with linux.. stil i am glad that i am learning something from u :)
[17:17] <sebsebseb> motd: Oh right nice KDE 3 still,  however that's on the verge of running out of support. Anyway I guess KDE 4 or KDE 3 stuff generally better off asking for help in #kubuntu
[17:17] <iamleneko> hi
[17:17] <Pici> jshriver: rename 's/\.mp3.*/.mp3/' SModcast-*
[17:17] <sebsebseb> motd: when using it on Ubuntu
[17:17] <iamleneko> how can i know how much really free ram is available ?
[17:17] <Pici> iamleneko: free -m
[17:18] <BluesKaj> cage_raphel,   there's nothing "dumb" about learning linux
[17:18] <cage_raphel> BluesKaj, thanks for being supportive :)
[17:19] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: Just of interest why are you trying to do Solaris as well?  Ubuntu and Solaris are quite differnet really, so probably better off learning Ubuntu reasonably well first.
[17:19] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, this is the link in which i have posted the output of sudo fdisk -l .......... http://paste.ubuntu.com/421116/
[17:19] <frxstrem> is there a way to see all other files that link to a file (either hard links or symlinks)?
[17:19] <frxstrem> in the terminal?
[17:19] <iamleneko> Pici, how do we read the free data ?
[17:20] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, lol.. everyone asks me this question.. my bro is studying for sun solaris certification and we have only 1 system here..and i am crazy about linux.. so thats the reason i am planning to have a dual boot
[17:20] <iamleneko> Pici, i mean i can't have only 582Mo free on 2Go
[17:20] <iter> cage_raphel: run solaris in a vm
[17:20] <llutz> iamleneko: +/- buffers line, "free" 2nd value
[17:20] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: dual boots are a bit sucky really though,  virtual machines on the other hand :)  if a computer can handle it. e.g. enough RAM
[17:20] <iamleneko> llutz, thanks
[17:20] <iter> cage_raphel: solaris x86 is finicky about network cards
[17:21] <pranay_09> hi , i am unable to edit the fstab file even as a root
[17:21] <iter> among other things
[17:21] <jshriver> Pici: you rock
[17:22] <pranay_09> earlier i had added an entry for a windows partition in it , everything was working fine except a drive was not mounte
[17:22] <geekphreak> pranay_09: what error?
[17:22] <iamleneko> 565 Mo ram used with only xchat and a gnome-terminal is reasonable ?
[17:22] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, well said.. unfortunately i have only  768 Mb ram.. thats the reason i feel vm would slow down .. and i prefer a dual boot
[17:22] <geekphreak> pranay_09:  can you pastebin the error ?
[17:23] <Pici> frxstrem: Thats a great question.  It appears that you can do that with: find -L / -samefile /path/to/file
[17:23] <pranay_09> geekphreak: failed to mount a drive
[17:23] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: yeah probably with that amount of RAM vm's will be a bit slow or something
[17:23] <geekphreak> pranay_09: what i meant was , what error you get when you try to open fstab
[17:23] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, yes
[17:24] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: then again it seems certian vm's will work  ok and not that slow with 512MB
[17:24] <geekphreak> pranay_09:  what type of file system are you trying to mount ?
[17:24] <pranay_09> geekphreak: it says read-only file
[17:24] <pranay_09> a windows ntfs
[17:24] <cage_raphel> sebsebseb, hmm.. but is there no way out to add it to the grub menu? i feel that would be  a lot more easier than running a vm
[17:25] <leagris> sebsebseb, I would enjoy using VM but had yet to found one suitable for gaming with decent hardware 3D support.
[17:25] <geekphreak> pranay_09:  did system crash?
[17:25] <llutz> cage_raphel: chainload it, as described in the link i gave you
[17:25] <jshriver> exit
[17:25] <street_dvd> Does kubuntu use PulseAudio?
[17:25] <cage_raphel> llutz, ok let me give ita try
[17:26] <pranay_09> geekphreak: a windows ntfs, earlier it used to show the message that unable to mount a drive ,but now  i am not able to get into graphical mode
[17:26] <sebsebseb> leagris: Virtualbox and VMware support, are getting there slowly with 3D support, it seems
[17:26] <sebsebseb> leagris: hrm I didn't want to type support in that
[17:26] <sebsebseb> leagris: after VMware
[17:26] <BluesKaj> street_dvd, yes
[17:26] <geekphreak> pranay_09: your system seems to be messed up
[17:27] <geekphreak> pranay_09:  did you uninstall any application, did an update anything?
[17:27] <cage_raphel> llutz, how do i edit the /etc/grub.d/40_custom?
[17:27] <llutz> cage_raphel: sudo nano ....
[17:27] <cage_raphel> could u pls help me with the command so that i can open the contents in a gedit and edit it
[17:27] <street_dvd> BluesKaj: are there any alternatives for Pulse?
[17:27] <sebsebseb> street_dvd: alsa and such
[17:27] <cage_raphel> sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom ??
[17:27] <theadmin> cage_raphel: gksu gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[17:28] <mopperwhite> bye bye
[17:28] <pranay_09> geekphreak: not afer editing the fstab file , but before that , i had installed the nvedia graphics card driver
[17:28] <theadmin> If you insist on gedit.
[17:28] <street_dvd> T_T I hate pulseaudio, what do I do???
[17:28] <geekphreak> pranay_09:  ok no worries, do you have ubuntu cd?
[17:28] <BluesKaj> street_dvd, you shouldn't be asking me , I'm an alsa purist so to speak
[17:28] <sebsebseb> street_dvd: you can disable it in Ubuntu  their are tutortials on the web and such, but then the sound applet  or whatever it was,  may not work properly and such
[17:28] <pranay_09> geekphreak: yes
[17:28] <leagris> sebsebseb, thus I tend to restrict gaming to titles working with wine/cedega or old dying linux ports like the ID software titles.
[17:29] <street_dvd> Are there any ALSA applets?
[17:29] <adalal> is it poosible to use zoneminder along with an external dvr?
[17:29] <geekphreak> pranay_09:  using live CD can you mount that partition and restore fstab to orignal state?
[17:29] <sebsebseb> street_dvd: in Ubuntu it seems disabling pulseaudio is a bit of a thing, but in another distro that I use as well,  it's just disable pulseaudio in it's control centre, and done
[17:29] <BluesKaj> street_dvd, there's an alsaplayer
[17:29] <BluesKaj> !alsa | street_dvd
[17:30] <theadmin> What's wrong with pulse anyway? :/
[17:30] <sebsebseb> theadmin: depends
[17:30] <pranay_09> geekphreak: not sure exaclty how to do it?
[17:30] <geekphreak> pranay_09:  can i pm you?
[17:30] <nimrod10> theadmin, for example it doesn't play nice with skype on all hardware configs
[17:30] <cage_raphel> theadmin, i have done that .. just wanna confirm a thing.. it should be .. # Chainload Solaris10 GRUB.
[17:30] <cage_raphel> menuentry "Chainload Solaris GRUB" {
[17:30] <cage_raphel>     set root=(hd0,2)
[17:30] <cage_raphel>     chainloader +1
[17:30] <cage_raphel> }... is this correcy ?
[17:30] <FloodBot2> cage_raphel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <geekphreak> cage come on man please
[17:30] <theadmin> Ubuntu seems to be "suppresing" my mic input (no matter what version), that is, I can only hear the record if i speak like REALLY loud
[17:30] <Scunizi> How do I list the contents of a directory on a samba share using cli?  ie.. "ls smb://<ip>/<share>" ??
[17:30] <pranay_09> geekphreak: ya sure
[17:30] <llutz> cage_raphel: if that is the right partition, yes
[17:31] <cage_raphel> opps! sorry about that paste.. here is the link.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/421126/
[17:31] <BluesKaj> theadmin, depends on your soundcard and setup, PA works fine on some and not so well or not at all on others , it's hard to predict in my experience.
[17:31] <leagris> adalal, I created a launcher icon for /usr/bin/gamix and added a speaker icon /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-mixer.xpm to it. Not an applet per se as it only launch gamix and does not offer on applet master volume control as the regular pulseaudio powered gnome mixer.
[17:31] <komputes> I need to mount an imaged encrypted partition. I used dd to make a raw image file of a LUKS encrypted partition 'sudo cryptsetup luksOpen stuff.image stuff' gives me a code 22 error - any ideas?
[17:31] <sebsebseb> theadmin: or in my case no problems with Pulseaudio untill
[17:32] <cage_raphel> llutz, perfect! now  should i check if it has been added in the startup-manager or should i reboot and hit shift key and check for the grub?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> theadmin, make sure you have mic boost enabled
[17:32] <sebsebseb> theadmin: uh I mean I had to killall pulse audio back in 8.04 quite a bit here and there, but other then that no problems with pulse audio ever on this computer untill 9.10
[17:32] <theadmin> BluesKaj: Where is that?
[17:32] <street_dvd> theadmin: it stops recognizing my hardware after a few minutes, alsa still sees it
[17:32] <llutz> cage_raphel: sudo update-grub
[17:32] <cage_raphel> llutz, ok .. let me do that. one moment pls
[17:32] <BluesKaj> click on the speaker icon and choose mixer / settings
[17:33] <sebsebseb> theadmin: then I just coudn't not have sound for virtual machines, and I knew messing around with pulse audio would be no fun,  plus I wanted to put another distro on  here,  I did and wow that was so easy to disable pulse audio and have sound working in Virtualbox again
[17:33] <theadmin> Okay, "Input"... Uh... found it. It was listening to wrong device o_O
[17:34] <cage_raphel> llutz, alrite.. this is what i got when i did a sudo update-grub
[17:34] <cage_raphel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/421129/
[17:34] <llutz> cage_raphel: "grep Solaris /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[17:34] <llutz> cage_raphel: menu.lst? are you using grub-legacy?
[17:35] <theadmin> llutz: huh? I don't think that works this way... I usually do a "cat | grep" combo.
[17:35] <cage_raphel> llutz, i dont know.. how do i check if i am using grub-legacy?
[17:35] <Kills> simple question how do I select all mp3 in  a folder
[17:35] <Kills> when theres a lot of toher stuff too?
[17:35] <llutz> theadmin: "uuc - useless use of cat" that is
[17:35] <cage_raphel> llutz, and where should i add this pal ? "grep Solaris /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[17:35] <geekphreak> Kills:  command line?
[17:36] <llutz> cage_raphel: just look what that command gives back
[17:36] <theadmin> Kills: Search for files of type mp3 and select em all?
[17:36] <Kills> ??
[17:36] <geekphreak> Kills:  *mp3
[17:36] <Kills> ok
[17:36] <cage_raphel> the command is "grep Solaris /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[17:36] <llutz> cage_raphel: yes
[17:36] <cage_raphel> i mean with or without quotes?
[17:37] <theadmin> cage_raphel: Without
[17:37] <Kills> didint work
[17:37] <theadmin> :P That was an easy question
[17:37] <Kills> i need to copy all mp3s from my dvd
[17:37] <maximus__> hey ppl wat is the command to view past system start up timings? any help?
[17:37] <cage_raphel> the moment i enter that command.. nothing happens.. the cursor come to the next line with the $ prompt
[17:37] <theadmin> Kills: Which directory is the DVD in?
[17:38] <llutz> Kills: find /media/dvd -iname *.mp3 -exec cp {} dest/ \;
[17:38] <theadmin> Kills: Uh... I said some weirdness. Where is it mounted to, meant to say?
[17:38] <Kills> in incoming directory in a dvd
[17:38] <cage_raphel> this is how it looks.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/421131/
[17:38] <geekphreak> Kills: cp  /media/dvd/*mp3  /path
[17:38] <geekphreak> llutz: man you are fast :)
[17:38] <theadmin> geekphreak: He's a find guru, i guess :D
[17:39] <theadmin> Wonder why shell does not eat {} in find *huh*
[17:39] <Kills> no easier way -.-
[17:39] <geekphreak> llutz: question any main difference between *mp3 and *.mp3
[17:39] <llutz> geekphreak: idk
[17:40] <theadmin> geekphreak: Uh, yes, first one will have all files containing "mp3" in name, second one will limit it to file extension
[17:40] <llutz> theadmin: fail
[17:40] <geekphreak> kills there is easy , open folder using nautilus, then  sor it by type :p
[17:40] <theadmin> llutz: ?
[17:40] <llutz> theadmin: "will end on mp3" not contain
[17:40] <theadmin> llutz: ...rite.
[17:40] <cage_raphel> what next bro?
[17:40] <Kills>  i sort it by type but then i have to select mp3s one by one
[17:41] <llutz> cage_raphel: i doubt solaris was added to your grub, whyever it uses menu.lst
[17:41] <geekphreak> kils select first song, keep shift key pressed, then left click last mp3
[17:41] <Kills> thx thats the solution i was looking for
[17:41] <theadmin> Kills: Uh, okay, so the GUI way. In file manager, click on the search thingy. Type ".mp3" in it
[17:41] <sebsebseb> llutz: menu.lst is for the old Grub not Grub 2
[17:41] <llutz> sebsebseb: i know
[17:41] <sebsebseb> llutz: he has Grub 2
[17:42] <sebsebseb> it seems
[17:42] <konq_25> Hello! I backup my system with remastersys and now there are many files on /home/ramestrys/ramestrys directory.
[17:42] <konq_25> which one is going to be write on dvd ? just the iso file ?
[17:42] <cage_raphel> llutz, ok .. so how do we get it added ? :(
[17:42] <llutz> sebsebseb: fine, and why does his updategrub writes a menu.lst and not a grub.cfg?
[17:42] <sebsebseb> llutz: oh ok I haven't looked at the pastebins
[17:42] <llutz> cage_raphel: apt-cache policy grub-common
[17:42] <kunu> hello
[17:42] <theadmin> konq_25: Yeah obviously. As an image.
[17:43] <theadmin> kunu: Hello.
[17:43] <llutz> cage_raphel: what version does it show? 0.9X or 1.97?
[17:43] <sebsebseb> llutz: apparnatly he did a clean install from the 9.10 CD of Ubuntu
[17:43] <konq_25> ok. thanks!
[17:43] <sebsebseb> so should have Grub 2
[17:43] <llutz> sebsebseb: fine, and why does his updategrub writes a menu.lst and not a grub.cfg?
[17:43] <llutz> sebsebseb: should i repeat more often?
[17:43] <theadmin> By the way what's that weird squiggly thing in version number of grub2 for? I mean it is 1.97~beta4, unusual way of naming. There is no weird squiggly thing in versions, usually.
[17:44] <kunu> where are you from ?
[17:44] <sebsebseb> llutz: nevermind,  i'll leave you to help him :)
[17:44] <cage_raphel> pls find the  out put of http://paste.ubuntu.com/421137/
[17:44] <geekphreak> Kills:  worked?
[17:44] <theadmin> kunu: This is a support channel, so don't ask any questions not related to Ubuntu.
[17:44] <cage_raphel> output of apt-cache policy grub-common
[17:44] <llutz> cage_raphel: grub2 it is
[17:44] <sebsebseb> llutz: since I suck at both versions of Grub anyway
[17:44] <cage_raphel> the version is 1.97
[17:44] <kunu> oh  ok
[17:44] <motd> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[17:44] <llutz> cage_raphel: 1.97 ~ grub2
[17:44] <motd> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[17:44] <psusi> theadmin: it's there because it's a beta... it makes sure that 1.97 final is > 1.97~beta
[17:44] <cage_raphel> llutz, oh okie..
[17:45] <motd> which package i need?
[17:45] <theadmin> psusi: Oh i see
[17:45] <llutz> cage_raphel: lets try: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:45] <Losha> theadmin: the squiggly I can live with. But what idiot names grub2 version 1.97 ?
[17:45] <ax-ax> someone know what's up with fluxbox that messes upp flashplayer in browsers that other wms handle great? :s
[17:45] <sebsebseb> llutz: however Grub 2 isn't meant to use menu.lst  which is what I was saying before basicalley
[17:45] <llutz> cage_raphel: add 3 following lines at the end of that file
[17:45] <geekphreak> motd:  did you try kubuntu-desktop?
[17:45] <llutz> cage_raphel: title OpenSolaris
[17:45] <kunu> i mean that , who i am talk is chinese or Amercia?
[17:45] <llutz> cage_raphel: root (hd0,2)
[17:46] <theadmin> Can I make Ubuntu replace, say, "oe" with "ö" whenever i type that, in whatever app?
[17:46] <motd> what do u mean geekphreak?
[17:46] <llutz> cage_raphel: chainloader +1
[17:46] <psusi> Losha: one who is not ready to release grub 2.0 yet.
[17:46] <llutz> cage_raphel: save the file, reboot, pray
[17:46] <theadmin> kunu: This is an english channel, yes.
[17:46] <geekphreak> motd:  what do you get when type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:46] <wiiguy> is there a msn with webcam support ubuntu ?
[17:46] <motd> I dont want kubuntu-desktop
[17:46] <ax-ax> theadmin: can't you just type ö instead? :s
[17:46] <theadmin> wiiguy: emesene is the most functional MSN client
[17:47] <sebsebseb> wiiguy: I think emesense will do it
[17:47] <konq_25> How can i send a file from virtualbox (ubuntu) to my real operation system (windows) ?
[17:47] <sebsebseb> wiiguy: uh that's spelt wrong
[17:47] <wiiguy> ok ty :)
[17:47] <theadmin> ax-ax: That's not a question mark but an "o" with umlaut
[17:47] <noobbuntu> I just downloaded and installed Ubuntu 6.06.2 so I could have a Linux host that can run VMware Server 1.x
[17:47] <geekphreak> wiiguy:  kopete?
[17:47] <theadmin> ax-ax: That is, two dots on it
[17:47] <psusi> konq_25: windows file sharing?
[17:47] <sebsebseb> wiiguy: Emesene
[17:47] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[17:47] <cage_raphel> llutz, sure thing .. but i am uisng sun solaris 10 .. so the title should be solaris 10 insted of open solaris.. right?
[17:47] <wiiguy> ok ty i will try them out :)
[17:47] <ax-ax> theadmin: i know, but you're charset are probably messed up
[17:47] <ax-ax> because, i used an ö
[17:47] <llutz> cage_raphel: title is free , just add what you like
[17:47] <sebsebseb> wiiguy: also I think maybe later versions of Pidgin have MSN  web cam support now,  plus AMSN does
[17:48] <kunu> english channel, Amercian？
[17:48] <llutz> cage_raphel: but don't change the following 2 lines
[17:48] <konq_25> psusi: no, i am on virtual box (ubuntu) now. i have send a big iso file to my windows desktop.
[17:48] <theadmin> ax-ax: :/ it looks like a question mark to me. But I can't type o with umlaut. It ain't on mah keyboard.
[17:48] <llutz> theadmin: take mine ö ;)
[17:48] <sebsebseb> wiiguy: well not sure about Pidgin,  however maybe Empathy can
[17:48] <theadmin> llutz: :D
[17:48] <psusi> konq_25: yes, you said that already...
[17:48] <geekphreak> llutz: is it free?
[17:48] <cage_raphel> llutz,  will not change the last 2 lines.. infact i have a similar thing in the output.. pls take a look.. let me addit to the paste it
[17:48] <konq_25> ok :)
[17:48] <konq_25> so ?
[17:48] <ax-ax> theadmin: you're using pidgin as irc client?
[17:49] <llutz> geekphreak: patented, sorry
[17:49] <theadmin> ax-ax: How'd ya guess :D
[17:49] <geekphreak> llutz:  oh man lol
[17:49] <ax-ax> theadmin: well, don't you have a button with ¨ on?
[17:49] <ax-ax> like, two dots?
[17:50] <theadmin> ax-ax: Nope, that's why i want to make such a mapping. I'm in russia, yet i sometimes need to type german and it becomes a bleh digging thru charmap
[17:50] <frxstrem> will two hard linked files always have the same file permissions?
[17:50] <llutz> ax-ax: even on german keyboards, there is no such key. umlauts are characters on their own
[17:50] <wiiguy> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/emesene < it says it does not support webcam yet and it also says i have to llook @ amsn ...
[17:50] <cage_raphel> llutz, pls take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/421141/
[17:50] <wiiguy> but it seems amsn does not exist anymore for ubuntu
[17:50] <ax-ax> llutz: i'm swedish, and standard keyboards here have both åäö and a specific umlaut button
[17:51] <ax-ax> just so you know
[17:51] <llutz> ax-ax: ok, we only have those 3 characters
[17:51] <geekphreak> wiiguy:  i see amsn on mine >>apt-get it
[17:51] <motd> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. how to i get those kde headers, i already have kdelibs3-dev installed
[17:51] <llutz> cage_raphel: i wonder why it's added as (hd0,1) before, because thats the way grub1 counts...
[17:52] <wiiguy> ok will try
[17:52] <wiiguy> ty again
[17:52] <iDope> I want to know how Ubuntu 9.10 detects USB HID hardware for example a USB Mouse. I want to write a little script that gets executed every time I connect or disconnect a mouse. Any ideas would be helpful.
[17:52] <llutz> cage_raphel: anyways, try one of those entries at reboot, one should work
[17:52] <geekphreak> wiiguy: np
[17:52] <ax-ax> theadmin, llutz: anyway, what i was saying is that you can write your own layout and add any character on, say altgr-o or such
[17:52] <cage_raphel> llutz, oh okie..  just wanted to confirm .. is it added the correct way now ?
[17:52] <Shunt31> anyone know the difference between the netboot install and the minimal install?
[17:52] <llutz> cage_raphel: imho yes
[17:52] <sebsebseb> Shunt31: uhmm kind of I guess
[17:53] <Shunt31> what is the difference?
[17:53] <sebsebseb> Shunt31: basically as far as I know netbook is when you can't install from CD/DVD or SUB
[17:53] <ax-ax> the tricky part is to get gnome, if you're using gnome, to use your xkb-layout when you're done it
[17:53] <sebsebseb> Shunt31: then you like send the kernel from one computer to you're other one over the LAN
[17:53] <geekphreak> Shunt31: from what i can see minimal is command line system , no GUI , just base package, netboot support network
[17:53] <Shunt31> ah ok
[17:53] <cage_raphel> llutz, ok .. let me reboot and get back to u .. thanks or your patience.
[17:53] <sebsebseb> Shunt31: and download whatever packages you want, or something like that
[17:53] <sebsebseb> Shunt31: I have never done a netbook, I just know a bit about it
[17:53] <sebsebseb> !install
[17:53] <Shunt31> I'm just going to try and install lucid with the minimal cd next thursday
[17:53] <geekphreak> Shunt31:  hope you have alternate cd
[17:54] <Shunt31> Probably with XFCE or LXDE
[17:54] <cage_raphel> llutz, by the way .. after i have edited the terminal.. how do i save it now...
[17:54] <Shunt31> won't they release the minimal iso though?
[17:54] <sebsebseb> Shunt31: there's an actsaul Lubuntu CD you can get for 10.04, but it's not offical
[17:54] <Shunt31> I know
[17:54] <sebsebseb> Shunt31: however LXDE/Lubuntu is in the 10.04 repo's
[17:54] <Shunt31> I just want to install from the ground
[17:54] <llutz> cage_raphel: ctrl-w or x in nano? isn't help shown at the bottom?
[17:54] <Shunt31> up
[17:54] <geekphreak> Shunt31: yep , i prefer alternate, just personal choice :)
[17:55] <Shunt31> I broke fstab yesterday trying to speed grub up
[17:55] <Shunt31> So i'm in a bit of a situation
[17:55] <geekphreak> Shunt31: well hope you learnt to make a backup
[17:55] <cage_raphel> llutz, it does .. but it does not give an option to save.. what i mean is..  there are many options out there.. but none of them says save
[17:55] <Shunt31> not that bad though
[17:55] <Kuifje111> lighttpd broke after I atempted to install php: sudo apt-get install lighttpd php5-cgi and sudo lighty-enable-mod fastcgi and sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload.
[17:56] <Shunt31> No, i just format and re-install
[17:56] <LzrdKing> when does karmix mount all drives in fstab?  i waht to make sure my wireless network is up before it tries to do that
[17:56] <Shunt31> I've backed up everything I need
[17:56] <LzrdKing> karmic*
[17:56] <llutz> cage_raphel: "exit" should ask you to save too
[17:56] <ax-ax> theadmin: you could modify yourself a pleasant layout for xkb, but i think that in newer ubuntus, you're forced to tinker a bit with hal settings to get them to work, and probably set up things in gnome too
[17:56] <geekphreak> Shunt31: always fix, thats way you learn more :p
[17:56] <llutz> cage_raphel: ctrl-x
[17:56] <Shunt31> I tried with the livecd, but I can't even get into recovery mode or a tty
[17:57] <Shunt31> there's less than 1 line of text at the top of the screen
[17:57] <geekphreak> huh?
[17:57] <Shunt31> I'd really need a picture to show you
[17:57] <LzrdKing> when does karmic mount all drives in fstab during startup?  i want to make sure my wireless network is up before it tries to do that so my nfs shares will get mounted.  what file will needs to be editied so my wireless network comes up on boot?
[17:57] <blackxored> Hi again, guys, is grub2 pon lucid compiled with LUKS support?
[17:58] <llutz> !lucid > blackxored
[17:58] <cage_raphel> llutz, ok saved..let me check and get back to you pal
[18:00] <konq_25> can someone tell me how to share a file on network (to send a file rom virtuall box to windows)
[18:01] <Shunt31> Is there a default /etc/fstab?
[18:02] <erUSUL> konq_25: samba ?
[18:02] <erUSUL> !samba | konq_25
[18:02] <iDope> so anyone know how to call a script whenever I plug in a USB mouse?
[18:02] <konq_25> but this is a virtual machine not a network ..
[18:02] <konq_25> is it important ?
[18:03] <Shunt31> in vbox?
[18:03] <motd> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. how to i get those kde headers, i already have kdelibs3-dev installed
[18:03] <konq_25> yes
[18:03] <cage_raphel> llutz, i tried rebooting  twice.. but when i hit the shiftkey it does not take me to the grub menu :(
[18:03] <geekphreak> cya folks
[18:03] <LzrdKing> konq_25: you can always email the file to yourself
[18:03] <konq_25> it is 2.9 gb :)
[18:03] <frxstrem> is there a program like Dreamweaver in Ubuntu?
[18:03] <l3dx> I've managed to mess up my nvidia driver. I first installed a beta driver, but now I want to rollback the stable one. Unfortunately it fails to load(I guess). glxinfo is giving me -- Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[18:04] <l3dx> still, from  Xorg.0.log it seems to load OK
[18:04] <Shunt31> is there a way to reset fbstab and grub to the default?
[18:04] <kgs> Does anyone know of any good usb wifi dongles for Linux. I can't find any definitive info on the web.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:05] <Younder> I see elephant lives upt to it's name after a week of use i removed all objects and is still 40 mB. Turns out it has no garbage collection..
[18:05] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: did i tell you my video problem has bee completely resolved?
[18:05] <LzrdKing> biin
[18:06] <LzrdKing> been*
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: by the 195 driver?
[18:06] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: yes, but it may have simply been the reinstallation that resolved it; either way, no more blanking!
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: sweet. Glad you got the gold :)
[18:07] <bartek> gh
[18:07] <LzrdKing> no i'll look into turning DPMS ON for when i forget to shut the monitors; what constitutes activity to the monitor though?
[18:07] <LzrdKing> now*
[18:07] <iDope> so anyone? Whats the usb hotplugging system used in Ubuntu (by hotplugging method I mean what exactly happens once a USB device is plugged in.. and during that process where can I do some modifications so that a script is called every time a USB device)
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Idope: you could run a daemon-like script which checks for a UUID then reacts when it first appears in the output of: sudo blkid
[18:08] <ne7work> !flash
[18:09] <ne7work> need flash player for 10.04 64-bit
[18:09] <chrisreich>  
[18:09] <iDope> well in my case I am not looking for a block device, I'm looking for USB mice
[18:09] <erUSUL> iDope: search for "udev scripts" in google
[18:09] <Pici> ne7work : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:09] <plum> hello, i have set up my usb drive to be bootable with ubuntu, but it does not boot up... says Bootmgr is missing
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: download the linux tar.gz and put the .so file in your browsers plugins folder
[18:10] <erUSUL> iDope: more accurately udev rules http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[18:10] <LzrdKing> when does karmic call mount -a during startup?  i want to make sure my wireless network is up before it tries to do that so my nfs shares will get mounted.  what file will needs to be editied so my wireless network comes up on boot before the mount -a call?
[18:10] <ne7work> how to configure apache2 with phpmyadmin
[18:10] <erUSUL> iDope: /etc/udev/rules.d/
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Idope: then lsusb will need to be watched. Hal/udev may allow stuff to be added once a device is detected
[18:11] <erUSUL> LzrdKing: for that kind of thing i would haxk something in /etc/rc.local (or create a especial /etc/init.d/ script )
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: add it to the startup items in gnome, you may be able to add it in /etc/rc.local
[18:11] <LzrdKing> erUSUL: rc.local is executed WAY to late to be before the mount -a call... maybe it can be done when it brings up eth0?
[18:11] <iDope> /etc/udev/rules.d/ seems to be exactly what I need. Thanks erUSUL and ActionParsnip
[18:12] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: i'm not running gnome
[18:12] <erUSUL> LzrdKing: /etc/network/if-up.d/  <---- ??
[18:12] <ne7work> how to configure apache2 with phpmyadmin please someone help me to learn it ;]
[18:12] <vista> LzrdKing:  ur nick sucks!
[18:12] <erUSUL> !lamp | ne7work
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> lzrdking: $HOME/.config/autostart is used by all DEs afaik
[18:12] <LzrdKing> erUSUL: is that in karmic?  i can;t get to that computer right now, only a jaunty box
[18:13] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: no DE, just a WM
[18:13] <erUSUL> LzrdKing: is a standar thing of debian/ubuntu since a long time afaik
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking fluxbox?
[18:13] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: and that would still be after the mount -a done during boot
[18:13] <erUSUL> !language | vista
[18:13] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: openbox
[18:13] <ne7work> erUSUL, i want mannually install
[18:13] <KaiForce> is there a command line equivalent for update manager?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: I see
[18:13] <LzrdKing> erUSUL: i lookes all around /etc and it seemed totally different in karmic
[18:14] <LzrdKing> looked
[18:14] <aeon-ltd> KaiForce: sudo apt-get update
[18:14] <erUSUL> KaiForce: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Kaiforce: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:14] <ne7work> erUSUL, i want to install them manually
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Kaiforce: you can search for apps with: apt-cache search somethinghere
[18:14] <KaiForce> thanks all...
[18:14] <vista> Linux is just a sinking ship, and you guys are despeately trying to save it
[18:14] <vista> Linux is just a sinking ship, and you guys are despeately trying to save it
[18:14] <erUSUL> ne7work: you want to install what manually ?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Vista: that is offtopic here
[18:15] <KaiForce> hilarious coming from "vista"
[18:15] <vista> orly
[18:15] <LzrdKing> vista: go away and write a virus
[18:15]  * erUSUL smelly troll is unsuccessfull; poor little smelly troll
[18:15] <Hideme> Is there a way to boot Ubuntu live CD, attach an external DVD drive and run the Windows on that drive (can it run the exe)?
[18:15] <JenniferB> hi ... i just installed ubuntu 10.4 ... I am trying to get compiz to work.. with all 3d stuff and such.. where do I configure these settings ?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Erusul: thanks
[18:16] <soreau> ! lucid | JenniferB
[18:16] <Pici> JenniferB : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:16] <soreau> JenniferB: If you come to #compiz, we can help you there
[18:16] <KaiForce> Hideme:  no, you would have to run Windows as a virtual machine and i don't think you could do that if you booted from a live CD, but I'm not certain of that
[18:16] <aeon-ltd> Hideme: why? and do you mean in a vm?
[18:16] <JenniferB> soreau: ook.. see you there :)
[18:17] <raygn> need a file sync and check out system like CVS or something, what is the best thing for developers and central file storage
[18:18] <Hideme> aeon-ltd:   Becasue the Win2008 media is DVD only and the computer I am installing to doesn't have a DVD drive or USB boot. I want to boot off the live CD, mount a USB DVD drive and install Windows to the HD.
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Raygn: rsync may be useful
[18:18] <erUSUL> raygn: source managment system ? subversion ? git ? mercurial ?
[18:18] <KaiForce> Raygn:  CVS.
[18:18] <blackxored> anyone guys?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Hideme: you can use a grub boot floppy to kick off a usb boot
[18:18] <Hideme> any ideas?
[18:18] <aeon-ltd> Hideme: is this a nettop of some sort?
[18:18] <erUSUL> cvs is ancient ...
[18:19] <Hideme> ActionParsnip:  Can you referrer me to a document on how I'd use grub to do that?
[18:19] <raygn> erUSUL: yeah I am looking for a good source management system
[18:19] <aeon-ltd> Hideme: scratch that, take ActionParsnip's advice
[18:19] <ian__> hey i need some help
[18:19] <Hideme> aeon-ltd:  Naw, just a really old server.
[18:19] <Reckon_> !ask | ian__
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Erusul: so is the man command :)
[18:19] <erUSUL> raygn: subversion (centralized)  git or mercurial distributed
[18:20] <aeon-ltd> Hideme: just asking, whats wrong with a ubuntu minimal + LAMP + samba + rsync?
[18:20] <kaf> Hi, how can easily  copy (to clipboard) a large chunk of text (multiple pages) through a SSH-connected terminal?
[18:20] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: but man has not be replaced by anything better ( info is not even included in ubuntu) ;)
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Hideme: I'm on G1 speed on a phone, you will be able to find guides faster than I
[18:20] <z3r0-c001> ubuntu+1
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Blackxored: I can't see your question. Wassup?
[18:21] <Hideme> aeon-ltd:   lol  Don't ask.
[18:21] <z3r0-c001> #ubuntu+1
[18:21] <raygn> erUSUL: ok thanks
[18:21] <ian__> im running backtrack on an hptx2 with a broadcom wifi card i need help setting up my wifi btw backtrack is a ubuntu bassed os should have the same config and commands
[18:21] <aeon-ltd> Hideme: k i'll respect that, why not use another pc but with the hdd you want winmedia2008 on?
[18:21] <ikonia> ian__: then please join the backtrack support channel, this is for ubuntu only
[18:22] <ikonia> ian__: the channel is #backtrack-linux
[18:22] <goez> kaf: cat it to a file and scp that file
[18:22] <Hideme> aeon-ltd:  That isn't an option.
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Hideme: i'd personally attatch a drive from another system (no need to screw it in, balance it on some books etc) for the duration of the install. Much easier
[18:22] <erUSUL> raygn: you have more options here than you probably want but anyway http://better-scm.berlios.de/comparison/comparison.html
[18:22] <KaiForce> Hideme:  if the server is that old, it likely will not run 2008 server
[18:22] <ian__> there isnt a backtrack chan as far as i can tell
[18:22] <ikonia> ian__: I've just told you the name of the channel
[18:22] <Reckon> blackxored, is your question about LUKS and GRUB2?
[18:22] <xangua> !backtrack | ian__
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Erusul. Hehe
[18:22] <clutch> ian__: there is, its #backtrack-linux
[18:23] <raygn> erUSUL: Thanks I will take a look
[18:23] <ian__> ok thx
[18:23] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: :P
[18:23] <clutch> check the wireless section of backtrack-linux.org too
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Ian__: if you want support in the official channel, you must run an officially released version of ubuntu by canonical
[18:23] <clutch> theres some stuff about broadcom on there
[18:24] <ian__> thank you very much
[18:24] <LzrdKing> erUSUL: i thikn /etc/network/interfaces might be the file i want to modify
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: its a good file to use if you are using static ip. Makes the system boot faster and you can remove network manager (less ram used)
[18:25] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: its a static dhcp lease currently
[18:25] <llutz> ActionParsnip: works fine with dhcp (and all other options) too
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> llutz: oh absolutely
[18:26] <doc`> just installed 9.10, can ping everything but cant surf
[18:26] <ian__> whats the command to register in a channel sry totaly an irc noob
[18:26] <doc`> webpage just stands still
[18:26] <doc`> tried switching to opendns
[18:26] <doc`> doesnt work
[18:26] <ikonia> !register | ian__
[18:26] <ikonia> ian__: also join #freenode for irc help
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: if its a stationary desktop you never move i'd use the interfaces file. I think it can do post-up commands (like you need for you network mount)
[18:26] <llutz> ActionParsnip: but unfortunately ifupdown seems to be unmaintained and nm will replace it completely sooner or later :(
[18:27] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: its a stationary laptop i never move :)
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Llutz: lame, I'll jump to wicd then, ncurses interface ftw :)
[18:27] <LzrdKing> wicd still comes up to late to mount nfs shares before login
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: you could mess with the sudoers file to make mount not need a password and add an entry in ypour startup items (messing with sudoers can be risky, it can be done but I wouldn't personally)
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Llutz: why do they always drop the tried and tested stuff I have foles backed up for config, for. Next you'll be telling me smb.conf is for the chop
[18:30] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: i think it would be cleaner to just have the wireless brought up when the rest of networking is (if it doesn't actually bring up eth0, then whenever it brings up lo) and mount the nfs shares when it mounts everything else
[18:30] <llutz> ActionParsnip: seems to be the "linux to the desktop" way, idk :(
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: submit it on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[18:30] <erUSUL> !final | ne7work
[18:30] <kaf> goez: when i do scp file host:/location, nothing happens, the terminal remains engaged though (I can't do anything, besides forcing to quit the process)
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Llutz: seemed we surrendered C+A+BS and all the old stuff is going with it, sad times
[18:31] <kaf> goez: I did "scp log 192.168.1.108:/home/cafaro"
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> !scp
[18:32] <clutch> is it possible to just dist-upgrad to the Lucid RC?  I have a customized fluxbox ubuntu from scratch and reinstalling completely will be a long and arduous process
[18:32] <delac> kaf: for file transfers, nautilus might be more user friendly. write in the address field : ssh://username@ipaddress
[18:32] <erkan^> how install I java on ubuntu 10.04 ? sun-java (not openjre or..)
[18:32] <kaf> ok thanks
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Clutch: sudo update-manager -d
[18:32] <clutch> erkan^: sun-java6-jdk
[18:32] <erUSUL> erkan^: #ubuntu+1
[18:32] <clutch> ActionParsnip: will apt-get dist-upgrade do the same thing?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Erkan^: #ubuntu+1 for lucid suppor
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> T
[18:32] <erkan^> ok
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Clutch: no
[18:33] <clutch> ah
[18:33] <clutch> ok
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Clutch: dist upgrade updates different bit of the same release afaik
[18:33] <raygn> erUSUL: Mercurial is a client and git is a client, subversion is the server piece
[18:34] <Younder> raygn, that is nonsense
[18:34] <erUSUL> raygn: no; git and mercurial both act as client and server they are distributed. the one that has a cleint server model is subversion
[18:35] <erUSUL> raygn: git and hg are a lot like p2p (bittorrent)
[18:35] <Younder> raygn, they are all different version control systems. There is no central server for git . It is a distributed version control system.
[18:35] <erUSUL> raygn: in the network model
[18:35] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: brainstorm.ubuntu.com seems to be only about gui issues
[18:36] <xcillion> hi
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: its anything and all ideas :)
[18:36] <Scunizi> what directory do you list alias's for user defined bash commands?
[18:36] <far7an> فيه احد
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: put your ideas there and it may get implemented
[18:36] <cage_raphel> llutz, after adding it to the sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst .. i am not able to enter my grub menu at all..
[18:36] <erUSUL> raygn: http://progit.org/book/
[18:36] <raygn> erUSUL: ok that makes since, the git I have is a plugin for git connections then  After ready the comparison, I am uncertain which is better to use out of the 3
[18:36] <xcillion> u can fix grub
[18:37] <xcillion> get da live cd
[18:37] <llutz> cage_raphel: your grub-installation seems to be somehow broken
[18:37] <far7an> any one can help me By telling .. How to change login window pic
[18:37] <cage_raphel> llutz, is it possible to rebuild it ?
[18:37] <Pici> Scunizi: What do you mean by directory? Are you looking to add an alias or just list them?
[18:37] <xcillion> can anyone explain me CHNTPW?
[18:37] <Scunizi> Pici: add.. I want to add a mount command for a samba share and use an alias to activate it.
[18:38] <Pici> Scunizi: put it in your .bashrc then
[18:38] <Scunizi> Pici: ah thank you.. I had forgotten what the file name was.. I'd add it to fstab but can't figure that one out.
[18:39] <llutz> cage_raphel: ask the grub-guys why your grub2 uses a menu.lst, maybe they will have some ideas how to fix
[18:39] <kaf> Hi, I'm trying to build a package, but it failed, anyone could help me with this? -- Here's the output:
[18:39] <raygn> erUSUL: the clients cannot be interchanged to the server piece right, if I use say subversion, one developer cannot use git to sync files
[18:39] <kaf> Hi, I'm trying to build a package, but it failed, anyone could help me with this? -- Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/aNxQP8tp
[18:39] <cage_raphel> ok llutz
[18:40] <hal> I am going mad here - when you configure ubuntu wireless using the network manager gui, where is the configuration stored?
[18:40] <Tophu> is there anyone available that could assist me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1252492&highlight=10.04+touchscreen  walkthrough for setting up the touchscreen on my hp touchsmart tx2 in lucid?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:41] <Scunizi> Pici: actually looking at bashrc it says I can add to .bash_aliases (which I did in the past to do a full sys. update,upgrade,dist-upgrade with "sysupdate")
[18:42] <xpike> hey everyone, I am having some trouble trying to mount a laptop harddrive on my desktop using ubuntu linux
[18:42] <xpike> can anyone lead me to a tutorial site?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: is the partion not under the places menu?
[18:42] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: iu dunno, how it is innovative to bring up a network interface during boot, then mount network shares?  its really just common sense; it doesn;t seem like the sort of idea that's on the site
[18:43] <xpike> When I plug in the internal harddrive to the USB adapter nothing shows up
[18:43] <xpike> even on my windows partition
[18:43] <hal> does anyone know where the wpa config is kept, once you configure it using the network applet?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: if you run: sudo parted -l ,do you see the usb partition?
[18:43] <clutch> xpike: Probably need to mount it in ubuntu.  sudo fdisk -l, then sudo mount /xxx/xxx /mnt/whatever
[18:43] <xpike> ok hold on I will try it now
[18:43] <clutch> fdisk -l will show you all the drives, you'll have to pick out the one you want
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: add a script to your startup items to run: sleep 60; mount -a
[18:44] <soreau> hal: my guess would be, buried somewhere in and encrypted file. What are you trying to do exactly?
[18:44] <clutch> I suggest mounting it to a directory in /media/ if you're going to keep it mounted there all the time though
[18:44] <clutch> and add the drive to your fstab or whathaveyou
[18:45] <Tophu> has anyone here purcahsed the official ubuntu support before? is it good? will they help a noob like me with a few things?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Clutch: you add partitions to fstab, not drives
[18:45] <xpike> Yea well I see my windows partition, my swap partition, my root partition and linux partition
[18:45] <lazarus_> hey i wish to have my friend who is on win 7 connect to my ubuntu pc
[18:45] <hal> soreau: there are no encryption options in the applet - so I cannot configure aes or TKIP
[18:45] <clutch> ActionParsnip: oh yeah, good point.  My mistake
[18:45] <glassresistor> so im having some issues with trying to run multiple flash plugins for firefox
[18:45] <glassresistor> i have flashplayer-nonfree installed but i also want to have v9 and the 64-bit beta
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: ok try opening nautilus, is the partition shown there?
[18:46] <clutch> I just have one big drive witha  bunch of partitions, sometimes I forget that its not 4 seperate drives
[18:46] <Scunizi> glassresistor: only one at a time
[18:46] <soreau> hal: I believe if you select wpa/wpa2, you don't need to worry about aes or tkip. Only have to configure that router side
[18:46] <glassresistor> when i copy them in to /usr/lib/mozzila/plugins they don't show up as options
[18:46] <lazarus_> any help
[18:46] <glassresistor> and when i delete all of them from the folder they all work
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: you can only have 1 plugin or they conflict and you get nothing
[18:46] <glassresistor> i mean flash still works
[18:47] <Scunizi> How do I reload bashrc?
[18:47] <llutz> Scunizi: . .bashrc
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: source $HOME/.bashrc
[18:47] <hal> soreau: it sees the router, but will not connect.  I have checked that it is b/g, using the correct WPA2 key, and IP addr details are correct.  do you know what else I can try?
[18:48] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip:  then how do i remove them
[18:48] <xpike> my windows partition is already mounted to the directory called "media" which is sda1
[18:48] <xpike> however I cannot find sda (#) of my connected drive
[18:48] <glassresistor> i just  removed --purged flashplugin-nonfree and installer
[18:48] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: thanks that worked.. and discovered an error I had in .bash_aliases
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: I suggest you remove the packages and just copy in the .so file for the adobe plugin for youe architecture from the tar.gz file. If you are using 32bit the flashplugin-nonfree package is all you need
[18:48] <paddy_> i get no sound when i play video files
[18:49] <clutch> xpike: if its correctly connected, it should show up in the output of fdisk -l if I'm not mistaken
[18:49] <glassresistor> i did remove them
[18:49] <zorzar> hey i'm running 9.04 and some weeks ago sound stopped working, its a lenovo x61t
[18:49] <kaf> Hi, I'm trying to build a package, but it failed, anyone could help me with this? -- Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/aNxQP8tp
[18:49] <glassresistor> but flash is still working
[18:49] <xpike> Maybe I didnt connect it right?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: that will most likely by your linux partition
[18:49] <Tophu> are there any kind souls out there that can help walk a noob through a guide from the ubuntuforums?
[18:49] <xpike> I am using a USB adapter so I can attach internal SATA drives to a computer via USB
[18:49] <genii> glassresistor: The player will likely still be cached until you restart
[18:49] <ramvi> I've added a file to init.d and update-rc.d it to 2 3 4 5. I've chmod 777 it but it just won't start! No word about it in the logs. Why is that?
[18:49] <zorzar> Tophu: what's your problem?
[18:49] <xpike> it has its own power source aswell
[18:50] <dotnetted> hey all - is there a way to run windows that's on another partition within a virtual os manager on ubuntu
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: run: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[18:50] <paddy_> Tophu yo!
[18:50] <xpike> i feel the internal drive running
[18:50] <Scunizi> xpike: those typically take power.. is it plugged in?
[18:50] <clutch> xpike: can you just attach it right to an open SATA port inside the machine?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Ramvi: 777 is a REALLY bad idea
[18:50] <ramvi> ActionParsnip: 755 is the way to go?
[18:51] <xpike> I never thought of that
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Ramvi: whatever it was originally is most likely ideal. 777 is massively unsecure and not advised
[18:51] <xpike> lemme try it
[18:51] <xpike> lol
[18:51] <xpike> I would have to turn the pc off right?
[18:51] <hal> does anyone else know where the wpa config is kept, once you configure it using the network applet?
[18:51] <ramvi> ActionParsnip: its my file so it didn't have any rights.. The other files in /etc/init.d is 777
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: if you run: mount ,does the partition show as mountes
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Mounted*
[18:52] <Scunizi> xpike: this is an external adaptor for the drive?  and has an external power source?  then no just plug it in
[18:52] <Scunizi> power xpike.. not the sata connector
[18:52] <xpike> yes its a external adapter for the drive, I can feel the drive vibrating as if it was on
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Ramvi: mine are mostly 755
[18:53] <xpike> sata gets connected to the adapter, power and data cable , and the other end goes into usb
[18:53] <Scunizi> ramvi: files in my /etc/init.d are 644
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> 6 sorry
[18:53] <xpike> and it has its own power source
[18:53] <Scunizi> ramvi: sorry.. 755
[18:53] <Tophu> @zorzar: just having a hard time walking through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1252492&highlight=10.04+touchscreen to set up my touchstcreen
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: ok if its not mounted you need to manually mount it
[18:53] <xpike> Someone told me to directly connect it to my PC
[18:53] <Tophu> I'm sure everything I could ever want to know is in that thread
[18:54] <Tophu> but I'm just having a hard time with it
[18:54] <Scunizi> ramvi: although some are 777 like hwclock -> /lib/init/upstart-job
[18:54] <xpike> all of the devices are in /dev right?
[18:54] <llutz> Scunizi: those are symlinks
[18:54] <Scunizi> ah
[18:54] <xpike> or do I use dmesg before and after I plug it in?
[18:55] <Scunizi> xpike: ok.. since I missed the first part.. you have a drive that you're trying to connect to your machine via a usb port and an external adaptor for interfacing sata drives with usb .. right?
[18:55] <glassresistor> well it stopped working but its not picking up the libflashplayer in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[18:55] <xpike> Correct
[18:55] <th1_> hi, how can I assign an extra mouse button to a keystroke? I have a mouse that generates Button 13/Button 14 events on a rocker and I want to map them to Ctrl+Tab and Ctrl+Shift+Tab
[18:56] <glassresistor> how do i get ff3 to know its there?
[18:56] <Scunizi> glassresistor: you running the 3.6.x version of FF - perhaps the daily build?
[18:56] <ManDay> Does anyone here use CINEPAINT?
[18:56] <glassresistor> 3.5.9
[18:56] <lazarus_> what is ubuntu's default remote destop port number?
[18:56] <subone> Is there any way to install Ubuntu onto its own partition from within Windows? My friends CD drive doesnt work and it wont boot from USB, but he is seriously addled with virii.
[18:57] <xpike> Yea I also noticed there are 2 LED lights the USB light is on but the SATA light is not on
[18:57] <Scunizi> ManDay: doesn't work on ubuntu because it uses gtk 1.X and ubuntu is beyond that.. cinepaint is trying to catch up but hasn't yet
[18:57] <xpike> on the adapter device
[18:57] <glassresistor> does this work for 64-bit / 32-bit people? http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/latest/demo-02.htm
[18:58] <xpike> this is what I have (similar to) : http://www.amazon.com/USB-2-0-SATA-5-25-Adapter/dp/B000J2GUS0
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:58] <xpike> not the same brand just the same type of device
[18:58] <Scunizi> xpike: should work unless there is an issue with the adaptor or drive.. I use mine all the time to connect drives in other peoples machines to my ubuntu laptop for data retrieval
[18:59] <ManDay> thanks Scunizi - thats good to know i would have tried to download and install it otherwise
[18:59] <Scunizi> xpike: there's two connectors that have to go to the drive.. one for power and the other for data
[18:59] <xpike> yep they are connected
[18:59] <xpike> Whoa
[18:59] <xpike> ok
[18:59] <xpike> I got something new
[18:59] <xpike> I reconnected the USB
[18:59] <Scunizi> ManDay: gimp work very well.. but isn't 16bit .. if you're doing HDR stuff or pano's check out "hugin"
[18:59] <FloodBot2> xpike: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <glassresistor> is there another place plugins need to be registered?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: have you tried manually mounting it?
[19:00] <xpike> Sorry lol
[19:00] <xpike> Unable to mount the Volume "Recovery"
[19:00] <xpike> Unable to mount the volume "OS"
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> !mount | xpike
[19:00] <Scunizi> ManDay: also there's krita.. but it's a little different.. google it for what it does and if it's 16 bit or not.
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: has the device been attatched to a windows pc?
[19:01] <ManDay> Scunizi, "hugin" never heard of that. I'll sure do. I've seen Krita on screenshots and I don't think I'll like it.
[19:01] <xpike> Yea I tried it on my windows partition
[19:01]  * LzrdKing mounts ubuntu
[19:01] <xpike> this is my aunts laptop harddrive, she eneds some data off of it after her laptop got messd up
[19:01] <xpike> needs*
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: did you use the saftely remove device function when you removed it?
[19:01] <Scunizi> ManDay: hugin is multi platform.. works *very* well for pano's ..
[19:01] <ManDay> Scunizi, hugin isnt really a full featured graphics program, is it?
[19:02] <ManDay> Yes I see, panos
[19:02] <xpike> Well on my windows partition when I connected it , nothing showed up
[19:02] <xpike> I didnt even hear the USB chime
[19:02] <xpike> running windows XP
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: sounds like you may need to use foremost on the raw drive to recover the data
[19:02] <xpike> But now i got these errors
[19:02] <xpike> from mounting this drive
[19:02] <Scunizi> ManDay: no.. designed for a specific task.  check it out at http://hugin.sourceforge.net/
[19:03] <xpike> Unable to mount the volume 'RECOVERY'. Unable to mount the volume 'OS'.
[19:03] <ManDay> Yes, I'm reading it, thanks.
[19:04] <xpike> It also says : /dev/sdf2 : operation not supported mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in Use
[19:04] <glassresistor> im installed flash allot of times b4 by copying the .so file and through apt-get
[19:04] <xpike> Do I have to unmount my normal windows partition to mount this drive?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: you can fsck the partitions too, it may fix them up, use fsck -a /dev/partition_name_here to possibly repair the data
[19:04] <xpike> Ubuntu cant mount more than one NTFS partition?
[19:05] <xpike> ok I'll try that
[19:05] <glassresistor> anyone know why even after restarting flash the new .so files added don't show up in my plugins tab
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: you can mount as many block devices as you wish
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: what browser are you using?
[19:06] <glassresistor> ff3.5.9
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: try putting the file in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins
[19:06] <xpike> I see the partitions show up in /media/disk
[19:06] <xpike> but cant access em
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: unmount them and fsck them
[19:06] <Wolfgang> hello there
[19:06] <Wolfgang> hello there
[19:06] <acxty> Hi guys, do I need to install some extra package so I can use make depend?
[19:06] <Wolfgang> I have a question regarding 1cad
[19:07] <jtickle> hey everyone
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: remove it from the other folders
[19:07] <jtickle> so I just downloaded the 10.04 RC
[19:07] <jtickle> popped it in the drive
[19:07] <Pici> jtickle : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[19:07] <jtickle> oh okay, thanks Pici.
[19:07] <Wolfgang> I downloaded the demo version+a serial key from the nets, how do I insert the key to qcad demo to have it full?
[19:07] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip: that folder doesn't exist
[19:07] <josvuk> hello, how to make the second display the maindisplay(with the App menue bar) in a dual head configuration?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: make it: mkdir $HOME/.mozilla/plugins
[19:08] <Wolfgang> anyone??
[19:08] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip: what about /usr/shar/ubufox/plugins?  i just found that
[19:08] <overmind> !anyone | Wolfgang
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Wolfgang: i'd contact the support for the product as you have paid for support
[19:09] <glassresistor> brb
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: not sure, I used to put it there when I used firefox
[19:09] <xpike> Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.
[19:09] <kekko> ciao lista
[19:09] <Wolfgang> noops, I have the demo from the site+downloaded a serial key with emule...how to use the serial key to the demo version and make it permanent??
[19:09] <Wolfgang> do you know how?
[19:09] <xpike> I don't wanna mess anything up lol
[19:09] <Pici> !piracy | Wolfgang
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: unmount it then
[19:10] <Wolfgang> jejejejejejejeje
[19:10] <rocket161> m
[19:10] <Wolfgang> is not pirated....
[19:10] <maco> Wolfgang: demo?  isnt what's in the repositories the full version?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Wolfgang: go buy a key, the instructions will come with it, or you can call support
[19:10] <Arabus> Hey I am currently trying to run a Ubuntu 9.10 on an hp laptop - this laptop ahs a Atheros AR5001x+ Wireless Network Adapter. I did try to use the driver provided at the madwifi webpage and the wlan LED started blinking but so far he does not detect any wireless networks. Also the Networkmanager applet shows that the wireless network adapter is not managed. How Do I solve that?
[19:10] <Wolfgang> ok oko ok...
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang: downloading a key from emule is blatant piracy and broadcasting such activities is particularly foolish
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: try the karmic backport modules
[19:12] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: meaning we should install the backport modules? Tried that, he does not detect the wifi card.
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: does: sudo iwlist scan ,show access points currently?
[19:13] <Arabus> ath0 no scan results
[19:13] <Arabus> I do use a wireless currently from my other laptop though
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: what driver does: sudo lshw -C network ,say it is using?
[19:14] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: driver=ath_pci that one?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: you may have to blacklist ath_pci and ath_usb I have the same chip using ath5k
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Or however its spelled
[19:15] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: hmm ok that is in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: sure, you'll need gksudo gedit ,to edit it
[19:16] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: k ill try
[19:16] <xpike> how does fsck work? it checks all partitions/drives? or only the partitions/drives specified?
[19:16] <Arabus> hmm there is also a blacklist-ath_pci.conf
[19:16] <Arabus> and a blacklist file
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: yeah the ath file sounds good
[19:17] <Arabus> ok.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: you need to get the system to load the right driver by blacklisting the others
[19:17] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: hmm there is an entry "blacklist ath5k" do I have to remove that?
[19:18] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: Ah sounds reasonable.
[19:18] <dotnetted> hey all - Twinkle (sip client) has no audio on Ubuntu 9.1 - what's the best way to debug this?
[19:18] <h00k> xpike: open up a terminal and type 'man fsck'
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: keep that commented with a # at the start of the line. Remove the # from the other lines
[19:19] <steam> hi folkz
[19:19] <xpike> so I would type fsck /dev/sdf2 ?
[19:19] <blocky> how would I find to display all the files ending in .cpp or .h?
[19:19] <dotnetted> and should the sound preferences app play and kind of sound when changing volumes?
[19:19] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: there were no other lines so i added "blacklist ath_pci" and "blacklist ath_usb"
[19:19] <rezzy> hey everyone, right my mates trying to send me webcam, but in amsn it aint working, neither in emesene can someone recomend a good video IM client please
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Blocky: sudo find . -iname "*.cpp"; sudo find . -iname "*.h"
[19:20] <blocky> can I grep the output of two commands at once?
[19:20] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: Do I have to reboot now or is there a way to reload the drivers without a restart?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: good stuff, you can check they exist with: sudo modprobe then try to tab complete the module name
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: you can rmmod the modules loaded and modprobe what you need
[19:21] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: theres a ath9k, ath5k ath_pci
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: ok the remove the usb line from the blacklist file. I'd also blacklist ath9k just to cover all bases
[19:22] <blocky> okay I've got a file containing all the filenames, now how do I cat the contents of every file?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Blocky cat `cat fileyoumade`
[19:23] <Pirate> Heey, what is the command to change the root password?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Blocky: you may want to use: cat `cat fileyoumade` | less
[19:23] <sebsebseb> !noroot | Pirate
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> !noroot
[19:23] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: Ok I used rmmod to remove the ath_pci and modprobe to load ath5k
[19:23] <blocky> ActionParsnip thanks, is there any way to have two regexes in a single command in grep, as opposed to find?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Blocky: I think there's something like [.cpp|.h] not sure
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: ok try: sudo iwlist scan
[19:24] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: ok now ifconfig does no longer list any wireless devices
[19:25] <blocky> my ultimate goal is to count the number of comments and rank the files by how many lines contain //
[19:25] <Arabus> but now there is a different device from iwlist
[19:25] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip: so its still not working
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: ok then your device definately uses ath_pci driver
[19:25] <Arabus> irda0 Interface doesn't support scanning
[19:25] <glassresistor> no matter where i put it
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Blocky: i'd ask in #bash
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Blocky: those guys got mad skillz
[19:27] <xpike> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sdf2
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: make sure you have no other flash packages installed at all, swfdec, gnash and flashplugin-* should not be around
[19:27] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip: they arnt
[19:29] <Arabus> hrmm
[19:31] <Dr_Alien> hi guys, ive been asking questions in ubuntu server but no one has responded.
[19:31] <Dr_Alien> any ideas on what i can do?
[19:31] <ACEP> SROY
[19:31] <ACEP> WAT
[19:31] <dotnetted> anyone have no-audio when using twinkle (sip client) ?
[19:31] <Trek> Dr_Alien: what questions about what?
[19:31] <AcePreshaw> ACEP: !caps
[19:31] <Trek> !caps | ACEP
[19:32] <AcePreshaw> fnax Trek
[19:33] <Trek> AcePreshaw, no problem
[19:33] <AcePreshaw> :)
[19:33] <System32> Hello Everyone ;)
[19:33] <steeleweb> looking for support on connecting by vpn to asa 5500
[19:34] <sowhat04> Hi! I have backup my Ubuntu with remastersys (latest version) . There was no problem on the process of backup. I burn a dvd the iso file (slowly) . I restart my computer and I mount this dvd on computer. It starts well but when i want to use it as live cd it gives this error: "cannot find ramdisk image /casper/initrtd.gz" . What is my problem here do you think ? Please help me. I have to backup my all system on a dvd.
[19:38] <sowhat04> I have backup my Ubuntu with remastersys (latest version) . There was no problem on the process of backup. I burn a dvd the iso file (slowly) . I restart my computer and I mount this dvd on computer. It starts well but when i want to use it as live cd it gives this error: "cannot find ramdisk image /casper/initrtd.gz" . What is my problem here do you think ? Please help me. I have to backup my all system on a dvd.
[19:39] <sowhat04> some people says that remastersys is not working on ubuntu 9.xxx+ is that true ?
[19:41] <sowhat04> or are there new softwares which are working fine with latest versions of Ubuntu ?
[19:41] <sowhat04> i mean backup softwares...
[19:41] <idleone_> !backup
[19:41] <paddy_> !sbackup
[19:41] <anvo> I just bought a NAS file server and a 1Terabyte HDD, but there is no disk in the web settings page... Anybody?
[19:44] <axe_ranger> so check it out the guys in backtrack say the broadcom bcm 4322 wont support injection so they dont support it in there os........ i dont care about injection i just need the wifi to work now i know you guys cant give me ant "how to" or "tech support" for this os for whatever law or moral system but if you could point me in a direction that can get my wifi running with or without injection that would be great
[19:44] <System32> Wich of you use BackTrack 4 Final ? :-P
[19:44] <anvo> Anybody with experience with NAS file servers?
[19:45] <System32> Look some guide for this.
[19:45] <steeleweb> anyone able to help with connecting to vpn
[19:45] <System32> To connect on VPS you must know Linux Commands.
[19:45] <System32> VPN*
[19:46] <steeleweb> yes VPN
[19:46] <System32> You could use Metasploit...
[19:46] <steeleweb> I am trying to connect to work
[19:46] <steeleweb> metasploit
[19:47] <System32> Try, and tell me.
[19:47] <System32> Now, i'm using BackTrack 4 Final.
[19:47] <System32> What OS are you using ?
[19:47] <axe_ranger> okay guess not lol thx anyway
[19:47] <System32> You are welcome ;)
[19:48] <System32> Wich of you want to bypass a firewall protection with me ? :-P
[19:50] <haavaros> Hi! I'm trying to open transmission via ssh, but i get "cant open display". How do I set the display to 0?
[19:50] <haavaros> sry nvm
[19:50] <steeleweb> xubuntu 9
[19:50] <axe_ranger> sry lost my connection
[19:50] <Pici> System32: We do not support backtrack here. Their support channel is #backtrack-linux
[19:50] <Ed__> ping
[19:52] <steeleweb> is metasploit downloadable by package manager
[19:52] <axe_ranger> already been there
[19:52] <Pici> steeleweb: It has nothing to do with connecting to a VPN.
[19:52] <steeleweb> sorry, my bad
[19:52] <steeleweb> I was sidetracked
[19:52] <Pici> steeleweb: Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN for connecting to a vpn.
[19:53] <Pici> steeleweb: Let us know if you need more help,.
[19:53] <steeleweb> will do
[19:53] <inktri> is the nvidia 195.36.15 driver downloaded via the "Hardware Drivers" different from the developer driver here: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cuda_3_0_downloads.html#Linux ?
[19:53] <axe_ranger> they say they dont support the cad because it wont work for what the os is made to do
[19:53] <Pici> axe_ranger: Are you running backtarck?
[19:53] <steeleweb> the wierd thing I connected but am unable to browse network or even ping servers
[19:53] <axe_ranger> i could care less about what its made to do i just need it to work
[19:54] <xbucefalo> hello!
[19:55] <xbucefalo> Qualche Italiano?
[19:55] <Pici> !it | xbucefalo
[19:55] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is there a good package to set up a hotkey command
[19:56] <sowhat04> there are a fwe softwares to backup the system. But can someone tell me which can backup and this backup works and as a live cd and installable cd ?
[19:57] <xangua> U-b-u-n-t-u: system> preferences> combination keys
[19:57] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks
[19:58] <sowhat04> im gonna be crazy :) i am waiting for backup 3-4 weeks and im editing this ubuntu but at the end i can not backup it :(
[19:59] <sowhat04> there is no a simple way to backup all system ?
[19:59] <genii> axe_ranger: If you don't care about what your operating system is as long as your wireless card works then why aren't you installing something other than backtrack rather than flogging a dead horse?
[20:00] <genii> Bah, left. This is what happens forming replies in two parts
[20:00] <erUSUL> !backup
[20:00] <wise_crypt> !info ndiswraper
[20:00] <erUSUL> !ndiswrapper > wise_crypt
[20:01] <LinuxNIT_> does anyone know how to enable compiz in ubuntu runining in vmware?
[20:01] <mezimezim>  Hi there, I am using openoffice and I have removed the openoffice.org-gnome package, because I use a dark theme and it looks bad otherwise. However, I lost the nice gnome file browser at the same time....any idea how I can get just that back, i.e. the gnome file browser?
[20:02] <helo> 'update-rc.d -f ssh remove' is failing for me... can i just rm /etc/rc?.d/*ssh* ?
[20:03] <xbucefalo>  /join #ubuntu-it
[20:03] <LinuxGuy2009> I cant seem to get Cairo dock to download and install themes. Where do i go to manually download them so I can try and drag and drop them into it?
[20:04] <xangua> reinstalling the package mezimezim
[20:04] <mezimezim> xangua: very funny!
[20:04] <steeleweb> I am able to connect however cannot browse or ping any of my servers
[20:04] <mezimezim> xangua: If I do so I am back to the dark look....that is precisely why I am here asking my question....
[20:05] <Travis-42> when I use adduser I get "gpasswd: can't get lock" -- how do I clear this?
[20:05] <misienta> Here we go, new rival for BT, http://www.netinfinity.org/download/ ,waiting for first reviews from you
[20:06] <idleone_> misienta: please do not advertise in here
[20:06] <Losha> helo: yes, rm'ing /etc/rc?.d/*ssh* should work just fine...
[20:06] <LinuxGuy2009> mezimezim: What was your original question?
[20:07] <wise_crypt> !info ndiswrapper
[20:07] <steeleweb> need help with VPN, any one.  I am able to connect however I am unable to browse or pin servers
[20:07]  * helo wonders why sshd is still running after an /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[20:07] <wise_crypt> !ndiswrapper
[20:07] <Losha> helo: was there some output from /etc/init.d/ssh stop ?
[20:08] <helo> * Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd  [ OK ]
[20:08] <Losha> helo: are you ssh'ed into the machine?
[20:08] <helo> i killed the pid, and now it seems to be dead... i guess i got the manual transmission version of ubuntu today ;)
[20:08] <helo> no, but the machine is ssh'd into another machine
[20:10] <Losha> helo: odd. If you ssh in, you fork a copy of sshd which runs as long as the connection is open. This allows you to restart e.g. an updated version of sshd while logged in via ssh...
[20:11] <nilsma> how do i list my (unmounted) usb-devices in a terminal? i have a cardreader connected, but not installed and i need to find its name so i can google how to install it :)
[20:11] <LinuxGuy2009> nilsma: sudo lshw ?
[20:11] <haavaros> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 9.10. Often when I have many windows open, I can't switch to them via the panel, only by alt-tab. They don't respond on mouse clicks. What's wrong?
[20:11] <Losha> nilsma: run dmesg and see if there's some output in there
[20:12] <nilsma> thank you both :)
[20:12] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Compiz running?
[20:13] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: Don't think so, I've disabled all visual effects under appearance
[20:14] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Have you checked launchpad to see if anyone else is having that issue?
[20:14] <VCoolio> haavaros: is metacity set to raise windows on click? Check gconf-editor, apps > metacity > general I think
[20:15] <haavaros> VCoolio: Thing is, it's usally working, but when I have alot of windows open, some of them become unresponsive to clicks on the panel, seems random
[20:16] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: thats strange
[20:16] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: My thought exactly
[20:16] <steeleweb> Connected to vpn but unable to ping servers or browse the network, I am able to ping my out side interface is there something I need to check or make a change on I am using the kvpn to connect
[20:16] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Does it happen when some specific app is started?
[20:17] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: Oh well ... there's some other peculiarities that have occured lately, so I'll just do a fresh install when 10 comes
[20:17] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: Not that I have noticed
[20:17] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Other random probs?
[20:17] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Tested memory lately?
[20:17] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: Yeah, like the indicator applet suddenly losing the option to shutdown etc
[20:18] <residentgrey> hola
[20:18] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: No, but that indicator problem is not unique, seen others get it too with 9.10
[20:18] <steeleweb> any help with previous question anyone
[20:18] <mezimezim> LinuxGuy2009: basically, I have removed the openoffice.org-gnome package because it makes openoffice hard to work with under a dark theme. My problem is that by doing so I have also lost the nice file browser in openoffice, so I don't have shortcuts, etc. My question: How do I get just the file browser back in openoffice.org, without the rest of the so-called "gnome integration"
[20:18] <residentgrey> anyone have the screen flicker after coming out of hibernation?
[20:18] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Oh ok
[20:18] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: I completely skipped 9.10 cause of all the bugs I had with several machines. Dont feel bad.
[20:18] <LinuxGuy2009> Lucid is much much better
[20:18] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: Ok, good to know
[20:19] <residentgrey> mezimezim ever looked at nautilus?
[20:19] <funkycat90210> I'm considering upgrading my servers from 8.04 LTS to 9.10 non-LTS, is that possible?
[20:19] <mezimezim> residentgrey: what do you mean?
[20:19] <xangua> mezimezim: or you could just use another theme
[20:19] <residentgrey> the file browser named nautilus that is already installed with the system
[20:20] <xangua> funkycat90210: no
[20:20] <residentgrey> at least for the ubuntu flavor
[20:20] <mezimezim> residentgrey: OK, I know, what about it?
[20:20] <residentgrey> you were asking about a nice browser
[20:20] <xangua> funkycat90210: only if you want to install from zero
[20:20] <LinuxGuy2009> mezimezim: Well if you removed openoffice.org-gnome and the shortcuts are gone then that is exactly what is needed to get them.
[20:20] <Losha> !upgrade
[20:20] <residentgrey> hey guys is it possible to convert an ubuntu system to xubuntu?
[20:21] <snuxoll> residentgrey: Yes
[20:21] <snuxoll> residentgrey: Install xubuntu-desktop, roll
[20:21] <LinuxGuy2009> mezimezim: If you dont like the dark theme then just change the theme
[20:21] <funkycat90210> xangua, darn.. that throws a wrench into things here hmm
[20:21] <residentgrey> sudo tasksel way?
[20:21] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: yes install xfce
[20:21] <mezimezim> linuxguy2009: the theme is very fine on every other program!
[20:21] <snuxoll> residentgrey: No
[20:22] <LinuxGuy2009> mezimezim: Well those are pretty much your choices I think.
[20:22] <snuxoll> residentgrey: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[20:22] <xangua> residentgrey: you can install the xfce dektop: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:22] <bondiblueos9> I want to play sound from mplayer to my pcspkr; how can I do this?
[20:23] <funkycat90210> xangua, according to here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes I can go from 8.04LTS to 8.10, i guess from there I can go to 9.10 non lts?
[20:23] <residentgrey> actually anyone know how to reinstall radeon drivers from the command line, as my xubuntu install will not load in full mode
[20:23] <LinuxGuy2009> mezimezim: Tried looking in options color schemes?
[20:23] <Losha> funkycat90210: when 10.04 comes out, you will be able to go from 8.04 to 10.04 because they are both LTS releases. In your place, I would wait a couple of months for 10.04 to stabilize, and then consider upgrading. Are you unhappy with 8.04 for some reason?
[20:23] <LinuxGuy2009> funkycat90210: Im using Lucid since Beta1 and love it. No major issues to speak of.
[20:23] <na15> f
[20:23] <funkycat90210> Losha, well i haven't run into problems yet, but I was running into centos problems with really old RPMs, so I figured I could avoid that with non-LTS ubuntu
[20:24] <xangua> funkycat90210: no, from 8.10 you will need to upgrade to 9.04 and then to 9.10
[20:24] <funkycat90210> xangua, got it
[20:24] <funkycat90210> lemme see if 8.04LTS has the bucardo packages i need, perhaps 8.04LTS updates its packages more often
[20:26] <Losha> funkycat90210: now I'm confused. What does centos/rpms have to do with ubuntu 8.04 LTS ?
[20:27] <LinuxGuy2009>  Losha: He said centos has really old packages. Ubuntu has newer/
[20:27] <residentgrey> isn't centos a variant?
[20:27] <Vigo> residentgrey: No
[20:27] <Losha> residentgrey: centos isn't a debian derivative like ubuntu...
[20:27] <residentgrey> ok
[20:28] <karl_> hello anybody
[20:28] <residentgrey> what is the program in the ubuntu flavor that handles the theming called? i would love to have it on my other setup
[20:28] <Losha> LinuxGuy2009: stability vs. new features. It's always a trade-off....
[20:29] <karl_> HELLO
[20:29] <funkycat90210> Losha, nevermind sorry for confusing.. but when I try to install the open source bucardo I get: Warning: prerequisite ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.32 not found. We have 6.3001.  .... but 9.10 has the right version. The LTS releases don't update fast enough for me
[20:29] <xangua> !hi | karl_
[20:29] <VCoolio> residentgrey: gnome-appearance-properties? guess it's part of some package though
[20:29] <LinuxGuy2009> Losha: Thanks captain obvious! :P
[20:29] <karl_> do you know how i download a program to use windows software please
[20:29] <residentgrey> prolly grouped in with gnome only...
[20:30] <Vigo> residentgrey: Like eye candy packages?
[20:30] <LinuxGuy2009>  karl_: look in software center for wine
[20:30] <Losha> funkycat90210: Got it...
[20:30] <VCoolio> residentgrey: it needs the gnome-settings-daemon also, use lxappearance instead
[20:30] <LinuxGuy2009>  karl_: or the newest version can be had by adding the winehq repo and then installing.
[20:30] <ombra> is here anyone with this problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/270798
[20:30] <residentgrey> i just like the way themes are managed better than xubuntu's
[20:30] <erUSUL> !wine | karl_
[20:31] <karl_> i have got wine but it doesnt work on the program i am trying to use
[20:31] <steeleweb> anyone have knowledge on vpn setup?
[20:31] <xangua> !appdb | karl_
[20:32] <erUSUL> karl_: ask in #winehq for specific help with wine
[20:32] <LinuxGuy2009> ombra: 10.04 will be released in 6 days and it doesnt do that on my RC installation.
[20:32] <Guest76653> #ubuntu-de
[20:32] <hamzaatova1> from time to time the youtube player gets muted and i need to restart. why????????????????
[20:32] <Guest76653> how change the cannel
[20:32] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Which browser are you using?
[20:33] <xangua> hamzaatova1: what version of ubuntu¿
[20:33] <Vigo> Guest76653: like /join #cnanel
[20:33] <Reygun> :-(
[20:33] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: 32 or 64 bit installation?
[20:34] <bondiblueos9> which audio device manager is the most lightweight?
[20:35] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: you mean OSS vs alsa etc?
[20:35] <bondiblueos9> LinuxGuy2009: yes
[20:35] <hamzaatova1> LinuxGuy2009, xangua firefox, ubuntu regular with whole disk encryption. 32 bit
[20:35] <funkycat90210> wow most of the upgrade instructions from 8.04LTS -> x y z -> 9.04/9.10 state that it will probably crash upon reboot. Given that these are remote machines I'll probably have to spend a day at the datacenter upgrading all the machines manually, d'oh
[20:36] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: Probably look at what lubuntu or xubuntu use out of the box. Best guess.
[20:36] <erUSUL> funkycat90210: wait a week and do 8.04 --> 10.04
[20:36] <trevor> does anyone know how i can get a semi transparent panel like the one in this screenshot http://blazmir1.deviantart.com/art/love-is-in-the-air-159262599 I am using the gtk theme and it is just a normal grey panel
[20:36] <xangua> hamzaatova1: what #version #release of ubuntu
[20:36] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Try with regular firefox or google chrome maybe to rule out a broswer bug?
[20:36] <funkycat90210> erUSUL, but what about 1.5 years down the road when that LTS gets too old to support something new I want on the machine.. i think that LTS updates are just too slow for me.
[20:37] <hamzaatova1> LinuxGuy2009, i use reg ff but i didn't knew there is g chrome for linux
[20:37] <LinuxGuy2009>  funkycat90210: Yes LTS are only every 2 years. But are driven for stability.
[20:37] <maco> funkycat90210: do you know about backports?
[20:37] <bburhans|web> trevor: right-click your panel, there are transparency options under the background tab
[20:37] <erUSUL> funkycat90210: you do 10.04 to 10.10
[20:37] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Also are you using the adobe flash plugin?
[20:38] <residentgrey> trevor
[20:38] <trevor> yes? residentgrey
[20:38] <VCoolio> trevor: the dock is probably awn; give it a shot, or try cairo-dock, both are good; you'll need to set your window manager to enable compositing though
[20:38] <funkycat90210> maco: not familiar w/ backports
[20:38] <residentgrey> right click the taskbar and select properties
[20:38] <hamzaatova1> LinuxGuy2009, yeah
[20:39] <residentgrey> select color and you can then set transparencies
[20:39] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Im on Lucid and havent had any flash issues myself.
[20:39] <trevor> I am using awn, i love it, the panel at the top though is transparent, and not in the same way that is in the properties menu
[20:39] <funkycat90210> erUSUL, there's no going from 10.04LTS to 10.10 I think
[20:39] <trevor> i cant figure it out for the life of me
[20:39] <erUSUL> funkycat90210: sure there is
[20:39] <bburhans|web> trevor: set a solid (not image) background color and then change the transparency/opacity
[20:39] <LinuxGuy2009> trevor: Trying to make the top panel seem to be gone?
[20:39] <bburhans|web> as residentgrey said, trevor
[20:40] <erUSUL> funkycat90210: you only have to tick a checkbox in Software Soureces to get "normal" dist upgrades (like in 8.04)
[20:40] <residentgrey> xubuntu has a separate menu for transparency as well
[20:41] <funkycat90210> erUSUL, hmm i dont have access to the gui, how can I do that without the gui?
[20:41] <Vigo> I think there is an alt-F2 for that, let me check,,,,,,
[20:41] <hamzaatova1> LinuxGuy2009, how do i remove the flash adobe and get lucid?
[20:41] <erUSUL> funkycat90210: oops, that i dunno; ask in #ubuntu-server they surely know
[20:41] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Lucid is not a flash replacement. Its the next LTS release of Ubuntu.
[20:41] <funkycat90210> erUSUL, goodcall
[20:42] <residentgrey> what does lts mean?
[20:42] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Will be finalized and released in 6 days.
[20:42] <VCoolio> residentgrey: long term support, every two years there is one
[20:42] <residentgrey> wow thanks
[20:42] <acicula> funkycat90210: there's always -X
[20:42] <residentgrey> <- is a nix nub
[20:43] <maco> residentgrey: tls is just an ubuntu term
[20:43] <erUSUL> s/tls/lts/
[20:43] <maco> erUSUL: uh yeah that
[20:43] <VCoolio> residentgrey: you can jump from lts to lts versions, other releases you need to upgrade one by one; fresh installs recommended though
[20:43] <maco> residentgrey: whoops
[20:44] <Vigo> erUSUL: Yes, the Alt-f2 can do it.
[20:44] <hamzaatova1> LinuxGuy2009, the next release of ubuntu? so fast? i'm happy
[20:44] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Yep it runs great too.
[20:44] <residentgrey> what do I need to back up in order to reclaim what I did to my system? I need to reinstall xubuntu on my other partition and I don't want my settings to erase
[20:45] <babu> except for the mac like window buttons which frustrates me
[20:45] <acicula> residentgrey: by reinstalling xubuntu you mean as in reinstalling the os?
[20:45] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: copy and paste /home to an external drive. Copy and paste back after fresh install.
[20:45] <babu> is there an option to change it back to the old way?
[20:45] <residentgrey> what about config?
[20:45] <acicula> !reverting
[20:46] <Vigo> !backup | residentgrey
[20:46] <LinuxGuy2009> babu: gconf-editor /apps/metacity/general/button_layout
[20:46] <acicula> no joy, oh well :), you can downgrade some packages sometimes, but downgrading or wiping is not really possible
[20:46] <babu> Oh cool thanks LinuxGuy2009
[20:46] <acicula> aside from purging a package and forcibly reinstalling it or doing a clean install
[20:46] <albert__> hi, how do i start a program in xterm to be able to use the terminal afterwards
[20:46] <LinuxGuy2009> babu: your welcome
[20:47] <acicula> albert__: add a &
[20:47] <residentgrey> also anyone have problems playing games? a lot of games I installed before just dont run
[20:47] <BrutusGosdric> hi. is there some new multi-protocol messenger for linux out there?
[20:47] <Vigo> residentgrey: You can usually just backup the Home folder, but I always suggest a full backup before making any system changes.
[20:47] <albert__> thanks
[20:47] <kyubutsu> you can use this command:  update-manager -d   and upgrade the system without losing your settings or files
[20:47] <percey> is there anyone that can help me setup pan to download from newsgroups
[20:47] <acicula> albert__: you can control what job runs in the foreground also with fg and bg, and ctrl-Z to pause a current fg process
[20:47] <residentgrey> I still don't know where everything goes for each given program so it's hard to understand right now
[20:47] <xangua> BrutusGosdric: pidgin, empathy, kopete
[20:47] <kyubutsu> upgrade to lucid that is
[20:48] <BrutusGosdric> xand, i mean a new one
[20:48] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: all user created content including application preferences are stored in /home
[20:48] <albert__> ah, thanks
[20:48] <BrutusGosdric> xangua, i heard about a new one
[20:48] <residentgrey> what about the stuff in /etc?
[20:49] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: Well if you made changes in /etc then you can back those up as well.
[20:49] <Vigo> residentgrey: It is a learning curve as well as a forgetting curve, this Package does NOT rely on 14 blobs to run, is rather neat and clean.
[20:49] <acicula> residentgrey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard explains the structure
[20:49] <residentgrey> im gonna try for lpi certs someday
[20:50] <albert__> acicula, how do i unpause a process? ;D
[20:50] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: When you get more advanced in learning and use, you can choose to manually partition with a seperate partition for stuff like /etc and /home.
[20:50] <albert__> ah, got it
[20:50] <acicula> albert__: fg or fg <pid>,
[20:50] <mininessie> idk
[20:50] <erUSUL> albert__: how did you pused it ?
[20:50] <albert__> ctrl z
[20:50] <residentgrey> any more reading suggestions?
[20:51] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: google
[20:51] <residentgrey> lol
[20:51] <percey> can someone trouble shoot pan
[20:51] <erUSUL> albert__: well fg or bg <jobnumber>/PID will do
[20:51] <Pupeno> How do I make Rythmbox re-scan the files for tags?
[20:51] <LinuxGuy2009> percey: pan?
[20:51] <albert__> yeah, i just understood the thing with pause and unpause
[20:51] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: there is a menu option to monitor changes in your mucid folder for example
[20:51] <LinuxGuy2009> music*
[20:52] <albert__> thank you
[20:52] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: what is mucid?
[20:52] <Vigo> residentgrey: three days or more on the forums, to get started, after you have learned, please help others with what you have learned.
[20:52] <percey> i am trying to connect to my newserver but it sits on connecting
[20:52] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: music*
[20:52] <residentgrey> vigo I try
[20:52] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: If you add new tracks then it will see them and add them to your rhythmbox library automatically.
[20:53] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: oh, ok... it doesn't seem to be re-scanning the files though.
[20:53] <Vigo> residentgrey: It is an ongoing process, I learn every day or it is a day wasted.
[20:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Rescanning for what?
[20:53] <ghost> hi all
[20:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Are you trying to tag your files
[20:53] <rocket16> !hi > ghost
[20:53] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: for the new tags I've just modified.
[20:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: EasyTag
[20:54] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: yes, I used easytag to modify them.
[20:54] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno:Ok so what part of the tag does it not see?
[20:54] <rocket16> !hi > Guest31446
[20:54] <Guest31446> I am trying to copy a file in to my lib/firmware folder and cant because of permissions. I THOUGHT I am logged in as root.
[20:54] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: I don't know, I can't find the files, it doesn't see the album for sure.
[20:54] <LinuxGuy2009> Guest31446: gksudo nautilus
[20:54] <Guest31446> Can I do it through X? Or do I need to do it through terminal?
[20:55] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Is the album in your music folder?
[20:55] <residentgrey> !google gksudo
[20:55] <rocket16> Guest31446: Use Alt+F2 and type "gksudo nautilus"
[20:55] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: no, as far as I know.
[20:55] <Guest31446> I dont know the commmand through term. though
[20:55] <residentgrey> !triggers
[20:55] <Vigo> Guest31446: That is not advised.
[20:55] <residentgrey> !help
[20:55] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: it was imported manually.
[20:55] <Pici> !msthebot | residentgrey
[20:55] <Vigo> !root
[20:55] <maco> residentgrey: there is no google factoid because we do not just throw google at people
[20:55] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Then unless you add it manually by dragging and dropping it wont see it. It cant magically know where all your music tracks are.
[20:55] <Pici> !msgthebot > residentgrey
[20:55] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: I already did that!
[20:56] <residentgrey> ?
[20:56] <mininessie> ubottu, yeah but to change folder setting you need to make a root with a password
[20:56] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Its not seeing the album as in any of the tracks or it doesnt see the album 'tag'?
[20:56] <erUSUL> !google > residentgrey
[20:56] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: I know it's not magic. I added the files, they didn't have any tags so it's impossible to find those tracks, I added the tags, but Rythmbox didn't update it's database to have their new tags.
[20:56] <maco> !factoids > residentgrey
[20:57] <acicula> Guest31446: what command are you using to copy, and what does whoami in a terminal say. running standard gui aps like nautilus as root is not a good idea btw. Also how did you log in as root
[20:57] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: it's not seeing the tag, I managed to find one track only.
[20:57] <Guest31446> What is the command to move a file from downloads to /lib/firmware?
[20:57] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Remove all track from library and readd
[20:57] <residentgrey> I was not trying to direct someone to google
[20:57] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: I can't nuke my wife's music library for this, but thanks.
[20:57] <residentgrey> I was trying to get  a google link for myself
[20:57] <acicula> Guest31446: /lib is a system directory where only root has access, so you can copy as root using sudo cp from to
[20:57] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno:OMG your not deleteing files by removing them from the rhythmbox database.
[20:58] <acicula> Guest31446: best be carefull though, it will not ask for confirmation if you make an error
[20:58] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Just drag em right back in so it can recreate the database
[20:58] <melm> i get this error when i try to compile
[20:58] <melm> configure: error: The important program mcopidl was not found!
[20:58] <melm> Please check whether you installed aRts correctly or use
[20:58] <melm> --without-arts to compile without aRts support (this will remove functionality
[20:58] <FloodBot2> melm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: I know that, still, I can't nuke my wife's list of songs imported for this.
[20:58] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Then your pretty much SOL I guess
[20:59] <acicula> melm: check your readme, and install the dependencies (including the -dev version) or disable features via configure flags as indicated
[20:59] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Thats how you fix it like it or lump it.
[20:59] <LzrdKing> !SOL
[20:59] <melm> ok thx
[20:59] <mininessie> windows me
[20:59] <UnNaturalHigh> anyone here having problems with brightness keys on there laptop?
[20:59] <LinuxGuy2009> LzrdKing: !holycow
[21:00] <kacper_> #ubuntu.pl
[21:00] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: Im on Lucid and no.
[21:00] <skihero> UnNaturalHigh: yea
[21:00] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: SOL?
[21:00] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, yes, I remember from yesterday
[21:00] <zavirbaf12> Hi
[21:00] <UnNaturalHigh> skihero, have you managed to solve the problem?
[21:00] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: You can use the panel applet called brightness if you need that feature and your multimedia keys dont work.
[21:00] <acicula> UnNaturalHigh: best to search with your specific laptop model on the brightness issue, its fairly hardware dependent
[21:00] <skihero> UnNaturalHigh: using applets to control
[21:01] <zavirbaf12> i have a problem
[21:01] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Forget it, I already answered your question.
[21:01] <skihero> UnNaturalHigh: am on karmic
[21:01] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, panel applet doesn't work for me upon upgrading to lucid
[21:01] <Pupeno> Does anybody know what LinuxGuy2009 meant by "SOL"?
[21:01] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: Yeah thats why I dont upgrade.
[21:01] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, when I try to click on any part of the applet it just disappears
[21:01] <zavirbaf12> i have a webcam genius slim 320 but i can't find driver for linux
[21:01] <mininessie> shit out of luck
[21:02] <LinuxGuy2009> zavirbaf12: Tried Cheese?
[21:02] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, well that is just silly if you can't upgrade because of regressions
[21:02] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, one would assume that upgrading leads to a better system
[21:02] <zavirbaf12> what?
[21:02] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: Tell the devs not me. I already know this.
[21:03] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: Clean install does for sure. All I know is that I personally dont trust upgrades.
[21:03] <Pici> UnNaturalHigh : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[21:03] <Pici> Lucid is still offtopic for this channel until its release date.
[21:03] <acicula> zavirbaf12: how are you determining it is not working/a driver needs loading/is missing?
[21:04] <acicula> zavirbaf12: also if you start gstreamer-properties and switch to the video tab does it provide any output?
[21:04] <LinuxGuy2009> Pici: Talking about upgrading isnt really offtopic, its a support issue.
[21:05] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, well the brightness keys don't work on the live cd, so a clean install would most likely not solve anything
[21:05] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: I agree
[21:05] <skihero> UnNaturalHigh: i use this echo 1|sudo tee /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[21:05] <ka0tic> my usb drive belongs to root.. how do i change it?
[21:05] <Vigo> Is there a dpkg <something> that removes packages that have not been accessed or used in XYZ amount of time, like three months?
[21:05] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: I would file a bug for whatever release your running.
[21:06] <UnNaturalHigh> skihero, cool, I will check that out. thanks for the tip!
[21:06] <LinuxGuy2009> ka0tic: gksudo nautilus, right click the drive and change permissions.
[21:06] <Pici> LinuxGuy2009: Talking about upgrading to Lucid is offtopic.  Please use #ubuntu+1
[21:07] <Pici> !lucid
[21:07] <LinuxGuy2009> Vigo: sudo apt-get autoremove will remove all un-needed packages from your system if thats what you need.
[21:07] <LinuxGuy2009> Pici: No one said Lucid. We were speaking of the process of upgrading. Lets move on shall we?
[21:08] <Vigo> LinuxGuy2009: Thank you, I was uncertain as to the exact CLI call.
[21:08] <Pici> LinuxGuy2009: sure :)
[21:09] <LinuxGuy2009> Vigo: Very handy if you like testing out stuff in the repos and then later remove them and stuff gets left behind.
[21:10] <Vigo> LinuxGuy2009: I agree, that is why I asked, and I thank you for the proper response.
[21:10] <LinuxGuy2009> Vigo: Your quite welcome
[21:10] <acicula> autoremove does not check the frequency of what is used but just checks unused depenencies on automatcly installed packages
[21:11] <LinuxGuy2009> acicula: correct
[21:11] <abstrakt> wtf
[21:11] <abstrakt> compiled PHP 5.3 on 9.10
[21:11] <abstrakt> and i can't get GD to compile with JPEG support
[21:11] <Vigo> acicula: Do I need to add a timestamp call?
[21:11] <abstrakt> GD doesn't want to find the libjpeg apparently, maybe because it's named libjpeg62 ?
[21:12] <street_dvd> How do I export my music library from banshee into another music player, but maintain my ratings, date added, 1d3 tags, and other info stored in the banshee.db file?
[21:12] <acicula> Vigo: there is no timestamping of any kind
[21:12] <acicula> not like that anyway
[21:12] <abstrakt> anyone have ideas?
[21:12] <JabberWalkie> ok, so I want to be able to start 2 X sessions on boot, each with different settings, ie desktop background, resolution, and possibly different a different window manager....any Ideas how I can do this?
[21:12] <LinuxGuy2009> Vigo: Why would a time stamp be needed? Anything that autoremove takes off your system isnt being used by anything anyways?
[21:12] <_pg_> any word on how long iphones will sync with banshee?
[21:12] <Vigo> I like to ask, this way I learn.
[21:12] <JabberWalkie> and from the same login
[21:12] <LinuxGuy2009> _pg_: check out gtkpod
[21:13] <acicula> you can check the access times on executables in bin/sbin and fetch the package names, but it wont do you any good, you hardly ever need init, but life sucks if its not there ;)
[21:13] <street_dvd> Is there any way I can export my music library from banshee into another music player, but maintain my ratings, date added, 1d3 tags, and other info stored in the banshee.db file?
[21:13] <Vigo> Good one
[21:13] <acicula> best to just use add/remove programs to remove stuff you never use and leave it at that
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> JabberWalkie, GDM will no longer let the same user log in twice (used to be possible, but no longer)
[21:14] <Travis-42> after a crash in which I lost power, tons of files seem to be corrupted or have bad permissions. I ran fsck but the problem remains. Is there any other way to fix it?
[21:14] <sanguisdex> is there a good way to check for wifi sniffers/snoopers with ubuntu?
[21:14] <JabberWalkie> ZykoticK9: not login twice, just start 2 x sessions
[21:14] <ZykoticK9> JabberWalkie, same difference i'm affraid
[21:15] <LinuxGuy2009> Travis-42: stuff in your home folder you mean?
[21:15] <bondiblueos9> sanguidex: do you mean to see if someone is listening to your wifi traffic?
[21:15] <Tamun> elo
[21:15] <acicula> sanguisdex: you cant detect passive listeners, you can check the mac list/log on your router to see if anyones been connecting to it though. if you suspect someone is switch to wpa/wpa2 with a decent password and they will be shut out
[21:15] <Travis-42> LinuxGuy2009: everything. example errors
[21:15] <JabberWalkie> well, ill find a login manager that can do it...
[21:15] <Travis-42> LinuxGuy2009: I can't even log in because of permission denied
[21:15] <sanguisdex> bondiblueos9: yes that's what I mean
[21:15] <ZykoticK9> JabberWalkie, this might help starting multiple X sessions on boot though http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/mandriva-30/how-to-start-multiple-x-sessions-at-startup-124925/ best of luck
[21:16] <JabberWalkie> k, thx
[21:16] <LinuxGuy2009> Travis-42: Manually ran fsck on unmounted filesystem?
[21:16] <Travis-42> LinuxGuy2009: I did. still no luck
[21:16] <ubuntu> net.pl
[21:16] <ubuntu> www.onet.pl
[21:16] <Travis-42> LinuxGuy2009: It found and fixed thousands of things... but didn't fix enough I guess
[21:16] <ZykoticK9> JabberWalkie, FYI GDM will allow you to log in using 2 different users at the same time
[21:17] <sanguisdex> acicula: this is more becase the the trace route form the coffee shop I am sitting in had 2 dodgy looking IP's
[21:17] <LinuxGuy2009> Travis-42: Then I might guess that your system would benefit from a clean install. I would anyways.
[21:17] <street_dvd> How do I export my music library from banshee into another music player, but maintain my ratings, date added, 1d3 tags, and other info stored in the banshee.db file?
[21:17] <bondiblueos9> how do I use snd-pcsp as an audio output device
[21:17] <Travis-42> LinuxGuy2009: sigh, ok thanks. Is there any way to reduce the damage cause by crashes? so that files don't get corrupted?
[21:17] <LinuxGuy2009> street_dvd: Well if you sync with rhythmbox and those things arent sent to the music player then its probably not supported.
[21:18] <mouse_> does anyone in here have experience using idjc and jackd?
[21:18] <ZykoticK9> street_dvd, doubt the rating/date added stuff can be moved to any other player -- the ID3 tags will remain
[21:18] <aendruk> Is there a way to see why a package was installed, i.e. what package depends on it? (I'm trying to figure out how to remove all games.)
[21:18] <acicula> sanguisdex: dodgy ip's?
[21:18] <rafaelsoaresbr> sanguisdex, if someone's wifi adapter is in promiscuous mode, it's impossible to detect
[21:18] <LinuxGuy2009> Travis-42: If you worried about stability maybe stay with LTS releases? Just a suggestion.
[21:18] <JabberWalkie> k, well what im trying to do is have a seperate desktop optimized for vnc (lower resolution, no effects etc). So it might be better to make a script to start the desktop first then run the vnc server, rather than starting 2 desktops everything i boot...
[21:18] <LinuxGuy2009> rafaelsoaresbr: google for macchanger
[21:19] <street_dvd> I don't mean rhythmbox, guayadecque for example, then
[21:19] <werwer> aendruk with centos it's resolvedep... I don't know with ubuntu
[21:19] <subone> Is there any way to install Ubuntu onto its own partition from within Windows? My friends CD drive doesnt work and it wont boot from USB, but he is seriously addled with virii.
[21:19] <acicula> how does changing your mac help against getting traffic logged?
[21:19] <LinuxGuy2009> !wubi
[21:19] <JabberWalkie> yeah, that will be better, thx guys
[21:19] <ZykoticK9> JabberWalkie, while in xorg simply type "gdmflexiserver" to get a new login in a second Xorg session
[21:19] <Losha> Travis-42: what os release, and what type of filesystems?
[21:21] <sanguisdex> acicula: IP's between my self and the router
[21:21] <Losha> aendruk: Try: apt-cache depends <packagename> and also rdepends
[21:21] <bondiblueos9> sanguisdex: there is no way to tell if someone on your network is watching your data, because it by the nature of the network is available to them
[21:22] <Travis-42> Losha: ext3 in ubuntu server 8.04 32-bit
[21:22] <bondiblueos9> sanguisdex: what do you mean between you and the router?
[21:22] <acicula> sanguisdex: which router, mind you if its just someones wlan its not that weird for it to go through another local router before being switched to the internet
[21:22] <aendruk> werwer, Losha: thanks! just what I needed.
[21:22] <JabberWalkie> ZykoticK9: ok, thanks, Ill try that
[21:22] <acicula> which will show up as local ip addresses in your traceroute
[21:22] <sanguisdex> bondiblueos9: hops between my computer and the café that I am ins wirleless router
[21:22] <stryk3r> How can I run a bash script under terminal ? like what command should I use ?
[21:23] <bondiblueos9> sanguisdex: if you are on a wireless network, then the first hop should be the wireless router you are connected to
[21:23] <ardian> 192.168.1.50 is IP address of class?
[21:23] <bondiblueos9> stryk3r: nano filename
[21:23] <erUSUL> stryk3r: bash script
[21:23] <LinuxGuy2009>  stryk3r: sudo sh script.sh
[21:23] <bondiblueos9> stryk3r: start the new file with #!/bin/sh
[21:23] <bondiblueos9> stryk3r: oh you said run, I thought you said make
[21:24] <Losha> Travis-42: hard to get a more stable configuration than that. The fact that you've seen widespread file corruptions makes me wonder if your disk isn't failing. Normall a power glitch would only affect the handful of files that are open, and the ext3 journal takes care of them. Consider running smartmontools on your drives...
[21:24] <stryk3r> lol so sh script would do it ?
[21:24] <LinuxGuy2009> stryk3r: sudo sh script.sh (Thats how to run a script)
[21:24] <Travis-42> Losha: ok thanks for the help, I'll look into it
[21:24] <acicula> not every script needs root(sudo)
[21:24] <stryk3r> thanks LinuxGuy2009  and bondiblueos9
[21:24] <LinuxGuy2009> true
[21:24] <LinuxGuy2009> welcome
[21:24] <stryk3r> acicula,  this one does though
[21:24] <acicula> ah then it helps :)
[21:24] <stryk3r> :)
[21:25] <stryk3r> #This script will try to download, and install sabnzbdplus and OpenFTD
[21:25] <stryk3r> its a script a friend of mine did
[21:25] <LinuxGuy2009> How do I get floodbot to list factoids?
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> or ubottu?
[21:26] <Losha> !factoids | LinuxGuy2009
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> Losha: Thanks dude
[21:26] <Losha> LinuxGuy2009: much easier to read factoids at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> thats cool
[21:27] <amosek> heh
[21:27] <stryk3r> just wondering, will  ubuntu stop me from processing rm -rf / ?
[21:27] <acicula> stryk3r: no
[21:27] <acicula> !danger
[21:27] <stryk3r> acicula, lol ok making sure
[21:27] <erUSUL> stryk3r: yes it will
[21:27] <bondiblueos9> maybe I'll try that next time I'm ready for a reinstall
[21:28] <stryk3r> will it or won't it ?
[21:28] <erUSUL> stryk3r: not ubuntu; rm will refuse to run
[21:28] <Losha> stryk3r: I hope your friend is trustworthy. Otherwise, that script could do *anything*...
[21:28] <guntbert> stryk3r: nothing funny here
[21:28] <acicula> erUSUL: even when run as root?
[21:28] <amosek> plenty of fun here
[21:28] <stryk3r> Losha, lol yea I was looking at the script. There is one that says "rm -rf $OPENFTD but I guess thats to erase a temp folder?
[21:28] <erUSUL> acicula: yes; you have to pass --no-preserve-root see "man rm"
[21:29] <acicula> erUSUL: wicked, i did not know that
[21:29] <Losha> stryk3r: I hope so. Where does OPENFTD get assigned?
[21:29] <erUSUL> acicula: easy to bypass just use /* instead of just /
[21:29] <stryk3r> OPENFTD=openftd-1.2.1.tar.bz2 Losha
[21:29] <erUSUL> acicula: recent thing.
[21:29] <Losha> stryk3r: looks ok then...
[21:29] <acicula> erUSUL: does it apply to all root points  or just / ?
[21:30] <acicula> oh just / if i read the man page correctly
[21:30] <erUSUL> acicula: ther is only one root :)
[21:30] <stryk3r> Losha, http://pastebin.org/170992
[21:30] <Oer> looks like cleanup tar.bz2 after install
[21:30] <LinuxGuy2009> !root
[21:30] <acicula> erUSUL: cat /proc/mount :P
[21:30] <ardian> us ysh a shell ?
[21:31] <ardian> is ysh a shell ?
[21:31] <Losha> stryk3r: looks kosher enough...
[21:31] <stryk3r> Losha, great, thanks for looking at it
[21:31] <bondiblueos9> can I play sound from my pc speaker?
[21:31] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: On some machines yes.
[21:31] <bwallen> bodiblueos9: idk, but why would you want to?
[21:31] <apoth__> hi im looking for a gnome-applet that shows my battery status
[21:31] <bondiblueos9> LinuxGuy2009: ok, how
[21:32] <maco> ardian: interactive YAML interpreter
[21:32] <Losha> ardian: google says it's some kind of test shell, whatever that is...
[21:32] <bondiblueos9> bwallen: because this machine has no sound card
[21:32] <ardian> thanks much
[21:32] <maco> bondiblueos9: so you mean just the BEEP sound right?
[21:32] <acicula> erUSUL: i meant the root of a fs, not the / root, there's a sneaky one hiding under / though
[21:32] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: Some audio devices will have some random fader in the audio mixer for the volume of the internal speaker.
[21:32] <bondiblueos9> maco: no, I mean low quality wav files
[21:32] <erUSUL> acicula: it only preserves /
[21:33] <bwallen> bondiblueos9: ouch, that sucks. I remember back in the day playing wolf3d and doom which used the pc speaker... the quality sucks
[21:33] <maco> bondiblueos9: oh... i dont think thats doable
[21:33] <acicula> well no you can /could program the frequency of the speaker
[21:33] <bondiblueos9> acicula: I do that to spice up my shell scripts :P
[21:33] <stryk3r> lol script error :@
[21:33] <acicula> so you can do tones and stuff
[21:33] <maco> wow i wanna hear about this...
[21:33] <tar-> if I want to move my current /home to another drive, is it enough to make the appropriate entry in /etc/fstab and copy the current contents of /home there?
[21:33] <Losha> stryk3r: pastebin the error...
[21:33] <acicula> buy you probably will go deaf, or rip it out in a fit of rage
[21:33] <maco> tar-: yep
[21:34] <tar-> maco: thx :)
[21:34] <stryk3r> Losha, http://pastebin.org/171013
[21:35] <apoth__> guys do you know where i can find a gnome-panel applet that shows my battery status
[21:35] <maco> apoth__: should be one in there if you do right click -> add to panel
[21:35] <LinuxGuy2009> apoth__: Yeah its in there. Right click the panel and add applet
[21:35] <acicula> apoth__: are you currently on ac?
[21:35] <LinuxGuy2009> apoth__: add to panel
[21:36] <apoth__> im on accu
[21:36] <apoth__> and i dont see any applet for it
[21:36] <LinuxGuy2009> apoth__: Otherwise on a laptop you need to change power settings from show when running on battery to show always or whatever you want.
[21:36] <LinuxGuy2009> apoth__: System->Prefs->Power Management
[21:36] <acicula> hmm well you can add a static applet to the taskbar, but the gnome-power-manager program should also display your battery when under battery power
[21:37] <maco> apoth__: i think the default is to only have it visible when charging or discharging. if its just sitting there at 100% because youre plugged in it doesnt show
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> exactly
[21:37] <apoth__> ah there it is
[21:37] <apoth__> was disabledd
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> apoth__: Most likely it was just set to only be shown when on battery and not AC.
[21:37] <ardian> Which of the following Linux commands are you likely to use to display hypertextual documentation on a command?
[21:37] <ardian>         info
[21:37] <ardian>         man
[21:37] <ardian>         whatis
[21:37] <ardian>         define
[21:37] <FloodBot2> ardian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <acicula> info
[21:38] <apoth__> anyway its part of a set of indicators, is there a package that allows me to put it in the bar alone?
[21:38] <maco> ardian: homework?
[21:38] <PeterDrop_> hi all people. someboy can apointme how configure my sound card please?
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> acicula, isn't that man?
[21:38] <ardian> maco reading LPI
[21:38] <maco> ZykoticK9: man has its own weird syntax
[21:38] <acicula> man doesnt do links i think?
[21:38] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: man is not hyperlinked
[21:38] <acicula> groff formatting
[21:38] <acicula> or something
[21:38] <Losha> stryk3r: actually, it runs for me. Try sudo bash -x <scriptname>
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, hypertextual is what is says
[21:39] <stryk3r> Losha,  hm okay.
[21:39] <apoth__> well thx anyway cu
[21:39] <maco> ZykoticK9: yeah but im pretty sure manpages arent written in html
[21:39] <ZykoticK9> maco, they aren't so i guess info is correct - my bad.
[21:39] <stryk3r> Losha, "sudo sh -x bash-script" ?
[21:40] <Losha> stryk3r: That's not what I typed. I typed: sudo bash -x <scriptname>
[21:40] <maco> stryk3r: sh != bash
[21:41] <stryk3r> hmm
[21:41] <stryk3r> another error.
[21:41] <stryk3r> http://pastebin.org/171052
[21:41] <CkhiKuzad> I have absolutely no audio, i am in ubuntu, with pulseaudio, yet i have no sound.
[21:41] <ardian> I applied for a scholarship for LPIC
[21:42] <maco> CkhiKuzad: sounds silly but common error..... have you checked with "alsamixer" command that nothing is muted?
[21:42] <Losha> stryk3r: you have spurious carriage returns in your script which you can't see. Run dos2unix <scriptname> to get rid of them...
[21:42] <LinuxGuy2009> CkhiKuzad: sudo lshw -C sound
[21:43] <LinuxGuy2009> CkhiKuzad: Make and model?
[21:43] <jonne> I just upgraded to Lucid, i found that xorg and compiz use up almost all my cpu when desktop-effects are enabled, using the cosed nvidia drivers. It was fine in Karmic. Anyone seen this bug anywhere?
[21:43]  * CkhiKuzad facepalms
[21:43] <CkhiKuzad> thanks maco
[21:43] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[21:43] <stryk3r> Losha, dos2nuix is not recognized, have to install it ?
[21:43] <LzrdKing> why are so many people using Lucid when its not released yet?
[21:44] <Losha> stryk3r: yes, it's in the package 'tofrodos'
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> Cause its great! :P
[21:44] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009 can u chek this please? http://pastebin.org/171070
[21:44] <erUSUL> stryk3r: use sed. sed 's/$/\r/' script > script_fixed
[21:44] <stryk3r> Losha, installing it
[21:44] <PeterDrop_> i have the same problem, i have no sound :(
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: Sure will
[21:44] <CkhiKuzad> maco, it didnt work
[21:44] <stryk3r> LOL
[21:44] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: this file /proc/asound/card0/codec\#0 tends to have more useful info for debugging
[21:45] <CkhiKuzad> alsamixer is at max, and it wont play any sound.
[21:45] <LzrdKing> CkhiKuzad: muted?
[21:45] <maco> CkhiKuzad: are there MM at the bottom of any of the columns? cuz that means mute
[21:45] <CkhiKuzad> oh, yes there are ._.
[21:45] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: Hmm same card I have on my motherboard from the looks.
[21:46] <LzrdKing> CkhiKuzad: press m when you have that one selected
[21:46] <CkhiKuzad> maco, i would hug you. but i wont. so i will have to say... thank you ^^
[21:46] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: if youre thinking "it says intel hda" concluding thing youre not going far enough likely...
[21:46] <maco> CkhiKuzad: haha
[21:46] <LzrdKing> CkhiKuzad: and turn your sound down so you don't blast yourself
[21:46] <CkhiKuzad> i had my sound pretty low too
[21:46] <stryk3r> I did what erUSUL said and it made a new file, but i still get the same error as before, Losha
[21:46] <CkhiKuzad> i keep it low usually
[21:47] <PeterDrop_> i dont have ANY sound xD
[21:47] <LinuxGuy2009> maco: No idea what your talking about. he
[21:47] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, some ideas?
[21:47] <stryk3r> http://pastebin.org/171086
[21:47] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: im waiting for the pastebin to load. im just wondering what you looked at to decide it was the same as what you have
[21:47] <LinuxGuy2009> product: MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio
[21:48] <PeterDrop_> that i have
[21:48] <LinuxGuy2009> right
[21:48] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: thats probably not specific enough because 2 of the same chip integrated on 2 different motherboards will often behave differently
[21:48] <Losha> stryk3r: run dos2unix <original script file> and then sudo bash -x <original script file>
[21:48] <CkhiKuzad> also i would like to know, how would i get out of screen? i have it open, but i want to get out of it
[21:48] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: 9.10?
[21:48] <PeterDrop_> yes
[21:49] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, yes
[21:49] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: Has it ever worked with 9.10?
[21:49] <LzrdKing> maco: LinuxGuy2009: i too have intel-hda
[21:49] <maco> LzrdKing: which means nothing
[21:49] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, never
[21:49] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, but iam smart
[21:49] <LzrdKing> maco: sure, it means in an intel card
[21:49] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, i can follow indications
[21:49] <maco> "Intel HDA" is just a very vague spec. most laptops have something that fits that very vague spec
[21:49] <LzrdKing> chipset
[21:49] <LzrdKing> indeed
[21:49] <maco> that doesnt mean they actually work similarly let alone are the same
[21:50] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: Ahh. This is offtopic for me to say anything more than perhaps test the RC of the new release and see if that will fix you up in 6 days time.
[21:50] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[21:50] <stryk3r> Losha, it jeeps saying dos2unix is not recognized
[21:50] <maco> stryk3r: installi t
[21:50] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, ok, txss anyway for ur time
[21:50] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_:  sure
[21:50] <Guest49665> Great to be back in Linux again - Windows was starting to depress me :>
[21:50] <stryk3r> maco, I did, he said it was under tofrodos right ?
[21:51] <maco> PeterDrop_: i'll agree with LinuxGuy2009 on testing the lucid live cd as it may already ahve a bug fix (lots of changes to sound drivers in there)
[21:51] <PeterDrop_> ok maco, patience then
[21:51] <CkhiKuzad> how would i kill screen?
[21:51] <PeterDrop_> txs both
[21:51] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: for debugging audio, the script at http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh is useful
[21:51] <maco> PeterDrop_: oh you can grab today's CD if you want
[21:52] <CkhiKuzad> i want to completely end the program
[21:52] <maco> PeterDrop_: 6 days is the final release
[21:52] <rafaelsoaresbr> ubottu, tell me about ssh
[21:52] <LzrdKing> CkhiKuzad: exit in each window, when you exit in the last one, screen will close
[21:52] <maco> PeterDrop_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[21:52] <Losha> stryk3r: maybe it's in a different package in your version. What does 'apt-cache search dos2unix' say?
[21:53] <duffydack> maco, thats the 19th.
[21:53] <stryk3r> Losha, nothing comes up in the terminal
[21:53] <CkhiKuzad> how do i exit, it just goes into the main terminal area, with the \o/ at the left side, and the bottom bar thing.
[21:53] <LzrdKing> daffyou mean 29th?
[21:53] <LinuxGuy2009> The servers are gonna be brought to a screaching crawl on the 29th.
[21:53] <littledani> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShBCwg6Jc0
[21:53] <CkhiKuzad> its starting to reeeeeally tick me off.
[21:53] <maco> duffydack: archive froze a few days ago so possibly its that nothing changed since then
[21:53] <LzrdKing> duffydack: you mean 29th?
[21:54] <maco> LzrdKing: no the current livecd that pointed to is from the 19th instead of today
[21:54] <duffydack> LzrdKing, no, maco`s link to daily is 19th
[21:54] <maco> LzrdKing: im guessing its because nothing changed since the 19th
[21:54] <duffydack> maco, there have been updates since then...
[21:54] <LzrdKing> oh, i thought you mean 19 is in 6 days
[21:54] <maco> duffydack: in main or in universe?
[21:54] <PeterDrop_> maco, i have already installed 9.10 version, is any problem overinstaling this lucid version?
[21:54] <maco> cuz main froze for RC didnt it?
[21:54] <PeterDrop_> <---- newvie 100% sorry :(
[21:54] <stryk3r> i have lucid if that matters for this case
[21:55] <duffydack> maco,  didnt tak e much notice.. but from 19th to RC there were hardly any if any updates.. after RC I have had quite a few.
[21:55] <maco> PeterDrop_: you dont need to install it in order to test it. you can just boot from it and try it and then take it out and go back to 9.10.  though with less than a week left, its likely safe to upgrade
[21:55] <PeterDrop_> maco i understand, txs
[21:55] <maco> stryk3r: hardware testing
[21:55] <PeterDrop_> i will try
[21:55] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: Yes I agree with maco its really quite good
[21:55] <Losha> stryk3r: ok, do this instead: tr -d '\r' < original_scriptfile > newfile    (Note: all punctuation is important here. Please cut&paste the exact line)
[21:56] <bondiblueos9> I'm going to wait to install lucid so I dont get told to go to #ubuntu_1 :P
[21:56] <maco> Losha: it looks like dos2unix is gone. at least, the command-not-found thing isnt picking up and saying what package to grab
[21:56] <erUSUL> stryk3r: have you pasted the actual script ?
[21:56] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: #ubuntu+1 has the great same support as this channel does.
[21:56] <stryk3r> erUSUL, yea i did
[21:56] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: I bounce between
[21:56] <oxiredo_ro> whta server shoud i use with ntpdate for Romania ?
[21:56] <stryk3r> losha ok got the new file
[21:57] <zuzie> hi there :)
[21:57] <Losha> maco: It's lucid: who knows what nonsense is going on there...
[21:57] <Losha> stryk3r: ok, now try sudo bash -x newfile
[21:57] <stryk3r> itworks !
[21:57] <maco> Losha: oh yeah i have the command-not-found source package sitting here...
[21:57] <Losha> stryk3r: only took us half an hour....!
[21:57] <stryk3r> Losha, LOL. well I cant say it works, I can say it runs haha
[21:58] <stryk3r> Losha, i think i got an error..
[21:58] <Losha> erUSUL: the problem is hidden carriage returns in the script file (as from a dos machine). Why bash doesn't ignore them god alone knows...
[21:58] <stryk3r> care to take a peek?
[21:58] <Losha> stryk3r: sure, pastebin it...
[21:58] <stryk3r> http://pastebin.org/171144
[21:59] <zuzie> if Iam stuck here with my ubuntu do I just throw in my prob here? I am very new to the whole thing yet
[21:59] <Losha> stryk3r: I don't think you have gcc/g++ installed. Try apt-get install build-essential and then try again
[21:59] <LinuxGuy2009> zuzie: Yes feel free to ask whatever help you need.
[21:59] <maco> Losha: apparently dos2unix was a symlink to fromdos and the symlink was removed because in debian they're getting a package called dos2unix but we dont have that one in ubuntu
[22:00] <erUSUL> stryk3r: my bad pasted the wrong script is « sed 's/.$//' script > script_fixed »
[22:00] <stryk3r> erUSUL, its ok, i got the file to run :)
[22:00] <stryk3r> Losha, will do
[22:00] <erUSUL> !ask | zuzie
[22:00] <Losha> erUSUL: my script basically did the same thing:  tr -d '\r' < original_scriptfile > newfile
[22:01] <zuzie> well to start: this is an eee pc 4g. my version is 9.10.  buntu works fine for a couple of days then suddenly when turning on it says error with the configuration server( /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exits with error code 256)  sorry trying to translate as good as i can from my language...
[22:01] <maco> ooh sed v. td
[22:01] <maco> bah tr
[22:01] <zuzie> hen I try to go on, it falls back to a login screen stating that the default power handling settings of GNOME  are  not properly installed. when i would login it starts the same cycle again and again..
[22:01] <lifestream> Hi, how do I make a HFS partition? When I go to gparted, it's greyed out
[22:01] <zuzie> I tried to log in recovery console do a couple of tricks but no effect. although with startx command I am able to at least use linux thats I have got up here to ask for help.
[22:01] <zuzie> :)
[22:02] <Ge5i> hi
[22:02] <zuzie> im stuck
[22:02] <LinuxGuy2009> zuzie: sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade (Maybe see if any new updates fix your issue?)
[22:03] <Ge5i> is there any command to run for terminal in order to compare the contents of two files ???
[22:03] <erUSUL> maco: Losha  stuck this in .bashrc ;P dos2unix() { sed 's/.$//' "$1" ; }
[22:03] <erUSUL> Ge5i: diff
[22:03] <Ge5i> erUSUL , thanks
[22:03] <erUSUL> Ge5i: if they are text files
[22:04] <Losha> erUSUL: I prefer my version. Yours will strip out the last char on a line if accidentally run on a non-dos file...
[22:04] <zuzie> i give it a go.. although i only have about 100 megs free space :P
[22:04] <unop> erUSUL, that could be damaging for a non-dos file
[22:04] <Ge5i> erUSUL, i want to compare two nmap scans in xml format , can i use this command for that purpose ?
[22:04] <lele24563> ciao
[22:05] <erUSUL> Ge5i: could work depending on how regular de xml is
[22:05] <Ge5i> erUSUL thanks i will try it...
[22:06] <stryk3r> Losha, those http://pastebin.org/171171 last two make: lines, is anything wrong with them?
[22:06] <erUSUL> unop: Losha ok ok
[22:06] <bondiblueos9> I'm trying to get mplayer -vo caca working and its not
[22:07] <zuzie> thank you Im off to try it :)
[22:07] <zuzie> c u
[22:07] <Losha> stryk3r: you're missing the glib2 library (a dependency). You'll need something like apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[22:07] <erUSUL> unop: Losha  dos2unix() { sed 's/\x0D$//' "$1" ; }
[22:07] <Losha> erUSUL: stubborn :-)
[22:08] <erUSUL> Losha: for the sake of completeness :)
[22:08] <thefirstdude> hi
[22:09] <TFon_> #sangoma
[22:10] <Navegadorx> hy
[22:10] <thefirstdude> my sister has a quest wireless route. when I connect to it using windows it asks for 8 digit pin number on router box, how to convert that to linux
[22:10] <thefirstdude> sepcificly ubuntu
[22:10] <thefirstdude> I donno the special hash key or w/e I just know the 8 digit pin
[22:10] <LinuxGuy2009>  thefirstdude: Its probably just a WEP or WPA key.
[22:10] <thefirstdude> I tried that already ofcourse
[22:10] <lifestream> Hi, how do I make a HFS partition? When I go to gparted, it's greyed out
[22:11] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude:Well whatever it asks for its gonna be an open standard.
[22:11] <thefirstdude> and I tried it as md5, and sha hexdigest
[22:11] <nsadmin> hfs is mac, isnt' it?
[22:11] <tar-> what does "nodev,nosuid" actually mean? (the definitions found are somewhat .. in need of another definition :)
[22:11] <bondiblueos9> lifestream: have you installed hfsutils?
[22:11] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Why would a router ask for an md5sum?
[22:11] <lifestream> bondiblueos9,  nope, thanks a lot
[22:11] <roscogruen> ANYONE:  is there a Ubuntu package similar to M$ Frontpage?
[22:12] <erUSUL> tar-: you ca not create dev file in that filesystem nor set the setuid on any file of that filesystem
[22:12] <erUSUL> !html | roscogruen
[22:12] <nsadmin> nosuid means that even if an executable is marked suid, it won't have any effect if it's within that mount
[22:12] <lifestream> rosco, yes. hold on
[22:12] <rosco> erUSUL: is the name of the package "!html?"
[22:12] <lifestream> rosco,  screem  quanta  seahorse
[22:12] <Losha> tar-: nodev means that files on the mounted filesystem cannot be used to talk to hardware devices....
[22:12] <nsadmin> rosco: plus there is #html and #css
[22:13] <erUSUL> rosco: no; read what ubottu said
[22:13] <PeterDrop_> iam searching apps for my work, before on win i used dreamweaver, now i found aptana it look very cool
[22:13] <rosco> lifestream: "screem quanta seahorse?"
[22:13] <abstrakt> rosco, don't use dreamweaver or nvu
[22:13] <tar-> erUSUL/Losha: thx
[22:13] <tar-> :)
[22:13] <abstrakt> rosco, you're only doing yourself a dis-service in the end
[22:13] <lifestream> rosco,  3 programs,  screen, quanta, and seahorse  (funny names,  I know)
[22:13] <thefirstdude> take a look at this http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=6835.0
[22:13] <thefirstdude> windows has setup for 8 digit pin
[22:13] <rosco> i don't and won't know html
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:13] <thefirstdude> what would I use in linux
[22:13] <abstrakt> rosco, lol well then you fail
[22:13] <lifestream> GUYS leave rosco alone,  please stop the philosophy
[22:14] <abstrakt> rosco, HTML is like, the easiest of all the computer languages to learn
[22:14] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Cracking wireless is offtopic here.
[22:14] <tar-> erUSUL/losha: wouldn't that mean that i cannot install applications that uses hardware in that directory?
[22:14] <erUSUL> rosco: then use kompozer (as the text said )
[22:14] <LinuxGuy2009> #backtrack
[22:14] <PeterDrop_> html is not a languaje xD
[22:14] <nsadmin> rosco: then you won't be able to have fine-level control over your site
[22:14] <abstrakt> besides the fact that Dreamweaver sucks, nvu/kompozer sucks more
[22:14] <bondiblueos9> thefirstdude: is it 8 digits 0-9, A-F ?
[22:14] <erUSUL> tar-: no it only means that /dev/ cannot be in that directory
[22:14] <abstrakt> PeterDrop_, um, actually it is
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> PeterDrop_: sure it is ;)
[22:14] <abstrakt> PeterDrop_, Hyper Text Markup LANGUAGE
[22:14] <erUSUL> tar-: no it only means that /dev/ cannot be in that filesystem
[22:14] <rosco> ALL:  i've tried and tried.  and will continue to try.  i'm just too stupid.  seriously
[22:14] <abstrakt> wtf
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> PeterDrop_: +1 to abstrakt
[22:14] <tar-> erUSUL: aha :)
[22:14] <PeterDrop_> haha
[22:14] <PeterDrop_> ok
[22:15] <PeterDrop_> whjat about the.. MARKUP
[22:15] <Barnabas> rosco, stupid ppl does not keep on trying
[22:15] <nsadmin> what it's not, is a scripting language... but it does qualify as a language
[22:15] <PeterDrop_> okok is a language
[22:15] <maco> rosco: please don't be insulting. we have guidelines in this channel and they include being respectful
[22:15] <abstrakt> rosco, if you're too stupid to learn HTML you're probably too stupid to be using Ubuntu
[22:15] <maco> rosco: oh im sorry i didnt read that right
[22:15] <linx|> abstrakt: thats harsh, and wrong
[22:15] <abstrakt> not really
[22:15] <rosco> ALL:  what would be the easiest?  screen, quanta or seahorse?
[22:15] <maco> rosco: i thought you called others stupid. in that case: dont be so hard on yourself
[22:15] <costre> tough luuuv
[22:15] <nsadmin> abstrakt, try encouraging people... what you send out comes back to you
[22:15] <abstrakt> harsh perhaps, but not wrong
[22:16] <linx|> abstrakt: yes, really. my parents use ubuntu no problems. they'd really struggle with HTML though
[22:16] <isolat3dsh33p> abstrakt, mean. but it's the reality ;)
[22:16] <rosco> MacGyver_: i was kinda feeling bad about being honest about myself.  ok
[22:16] <Losha> abstrakt: please keep it civil on this channel. We are a *help* channel first and foremost...
[22:16] <maco> abstrakt: hey be nice
[22:16] <lifestream> rosco please forgive the behavior of these people, don't pay attention to them,  seems theyre not in a good mood today
[22:16] <maco> abstrakt: my mum and brother do just fine with ubuntu (its easier than windows, after all :P) but are far from techies
[22:17] <LinuxGuy2009> same here
[22:17] <rosco> ALL:  i didn't see the comments. too focused on the real issue.  sorry
[22:17] <nsadmin> rosco: I got what you said as "I don't want to learn html"
[22:17] <tar-> how do i get openssh-server to start up before a computer has been logged into so that i don't have to manually walk over to my other computer and log in before i can ssh into it?
[22:17] <rosco> i'm kewl
[22:17] <abstrakt> maco, knowing how to click a close button isn't what i'm talking about when i say "use ubuntu"
[22:17] <abstrakt> anyway, enough comedy for now
[22:17] <linx|> what an idiot
[22:17] <PeterDrop_> :o
[22:17] <maco> linx|: be nice
[22:17] <LinuxGuy2009> hehe
[22:17] <linx|> maco: heh ;-)
[22:18] <stryk3r> losha sorry i didn't respond, had to go afk
[22:18] <maco> what is so hard about being excellent to each other?
[22:18] <Barnabas> linx|, just be happy you have the knowledge other would kill for :-)
[22:18] <erUSUL> tar-: openssh starts with the system. probably the problem is the network. network manager will only connect when you log in
[22:18] <Barnabas> others
[22:18] <lifestream> rosco,  im sorry i made a mistake, it doesnt seem screem  lets you edit what you see
[22:18] <isolat3dsh33p> did they merge #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic? :/
[22:18] <linx|> rosco: try bluefish, though it tends to be a bit "technical" still (like a lot of open source software)
[22:18] <Losha> maco: for some people. it's apparently impossible...
[22:18] <_pg_> isolat3dsh33p: niiice
[22:18] <erUSUL> !info kompozer | rosco
[22:18] <bryanr> My visual studio 2010 ultimate is installing everything! but i did a custom install in hope to avoid that. :(  this seems to happen with all the visual studio or SDKs from Microsoft
[22:18] <tar-> erUSUL: i see, so i should get the network manager to load the interfaces before logon then ?
[22:18] <nsadmin> maco: it's just too Kianu Reeves...
[22:18] <erUSUL> tar-: yes
[22:19] <tar-> erUSUL: you're a goldmine ;)
[22:19] <Noeve> Morning all. I'm currently running an older version of Kubuntu, and would like to get rid of that and install the new Ubuntu on top. Is there an easy way to do this, or should I just burn a CD and wipe clean ?
[22:19] <LinuxGuy2009> (nsadmin: maco: it's just too Kianu Reeves...) My thoughts exactly. ha
[22:19] <Losha> stryk3r: is it working yet?
[22:19] <maco> linx|: bluefish is just a text editor with a file list on the side :P it doesnt really do much special....
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Noeve
[22:19] <erUSUL> tar-: or use /etc/network/interfaces (if it is a wired connection it is the best option)
[22:19] <stryk3r> installing that last dependency
[22:19] <nsadmin> but it's good to be excellent
[22:19] <maco> Noeve: you could install ubuntu-desktop and then...
[22:19] <nsadmin> or it's excellent to be good...
[22:19] <Noeve> ActionParsnip, will that even apply from Kubuntu ?
[22:19] <maco> !puregnome | Noeve
[22:19] <nsadmin> or something :)
[22:19] <Barnabas> maco, I really do not think that static HTML is THAT hard. Javascript and css aside, what is the really big problems you face ?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> Noeve: its usually quicker to clean install if you are running something like intrepid
[22:19] <maco> Noeve: and then upgrade a bunch...
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Noeve: kubuntu is ubuntu with a different front, its the same OS
[22:20] <maco> Barnabas: hmm? ive been doing html for 13 years...
[22:20] <Barnabas> ok
[22:20] <linx|> maco: good point. I'm not thinking of bluefish, I'm thinking of Nvu
[22:20] <stryk3r> Losha, running it again now
[22:20] <Noeve> Yep, but I've struggled with changing from Gnome to KDE and back a few times.
[22:20] <BrutusGosdric> hi all. i'm new to linux, so i dunno if i'm comfortable editing xorg just yet. can someone tell me how to setup twinview in metamodes, so that my screens are like one big screen?
[22:20] <tar-> erUSUL: thx :)
[22:20] <alien260> a good alternative for web development is aptana http://www.aptana.com/
[22:20] <thefirstdude> .
[22:20] <Noeve> Wondering if there's a painless way to do it, or if it's safer to just burn a disc.
[22:20] <maco> Barnabas: however someone was looking for a WYSIWYG editor and so bluefish wasnt the right suggestion
[22:20] <nsadmin> knowing html in a direct way adds power and expression
[22:20] <Navegadorx> linux is power
[22:20] <PeterDrop_> like i said, aptana rocks
[22:21] <PeterDrop_> notepad++ too anyway
[22:21] <BrutusGosdric> i want to do it from nvidia-settings. anyone think they can help me?
[22:21] <erUSUL> back on topic?? please
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Navegadorx: it can be as powerful as you make it, like any OS
[22:21] <stryk3r> Losha, http://pastebin.org/171239 another error :@
[22:21] <Navegadorx> creaty channel
[22:21] <Barnabas> maco, WISIWYG editors will limit you on any platform
[22:21] <isolat3dsh33p> PeterDrop_, there's notepad++ for linux?
[22:21] <maco> Noeve: or you can install from an ubuntu cd and choose manual partition and choose to use the same partition but tell it to NOT format, and then itll keep your home directory
[22:21] <maco> Barnabas: i agree, but if that's what the person wants...
[22:21] <PeterDrop_> i dont know
[22:21] <PeterDrop_> is my very first time on linux
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> BrutusGosdric: easy. run: sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings    setup the screen then click "save to x config file"
[22:21] <PeterDrop_> :D
[22:21] <Noeve> maco, sounds like the easiest option, yeah. Thanks.
[22:22] <linx|> rosco: try nvu (now known as KompoZer)
[22:22] <z3r0-c001> #ubuntu+1
[22:22] <Noeve> ActionParsnip, thanks also - and awesome handle.
[22:22] <isolat3dsh33p> PeterDrop_, there's none then. :/
[22:22] <maco> z3r0-c001: /join
[22:22] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[22:22] <Losha> stryk3r: apt-get install libxml2-dev libxml++1.0-dev
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Noeve: its a harry hill joke :D  thanks
[22:22] <BrutusGosdric> ActionParsnip, but im not 100% sure how to setup the metamodes in nvidia-settings
[22:22] <Noeve> :)
[22:23] <PeterDrop_> ubottu any upgrade for nvidia sound cards? xD
[22:23] <bryanr> wtf
[22:23] <bryanr> oh sorry
[22:23] <stryk3r> ty Losha
[22:23] <bryanr> but this is april 23rd. and you are releasing a new ubuntu april 29th. is it worth upgrading when it comes out?
[22:23] <zenergi> If two users are logged into a server, how can 1 user see the shell commands the other user is entering?
[22:23] <maco> zenergi: by being root and then doing some magic
[22:24] <LinuxGuy2009> bryanr: 10.04 will be an LTS (long term support) release. Kind of a big one.
[22:24] <zenergi> maco: ok with step one, what kind of mojo?
[22:24] <erUSUL> zenergi: no easily. the spied user can use screen a share the session
[22:24] <Losha> stryk3r: this is why no-one installs from source if they can help it...
[22:24] <zenergi> maco: echo pts/1?
[22:24] <PeterDrop_> isolat3dsh33p http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/nppLinux.php
[22:24] <stryk3r> Losha, lol: configure: error: * SQLite 3.0 of hoger kan niet gevonden worden (is het pakket sqlite3-devel wel geinstalleerd?).
[22:24] <stryk3r>  so install SQLite 3.0 ?
[22:24] <SeaPhor> zenergi, screen +x
[22:24] <maco> zenergi: ive never tried it as ive always been teh only person on my system
[22:24] <guntbert> zenergi: ps can show you all running processes including command lines
[22:24] <maco> zenergi: but yes that sounds likely as i know the devices are the way in
[22:24] <stryk3r> Losha, im not sure why im running it as a script, he had told me to do it that way for some reason
[22:24] <__mikem> I am running ubuntu 10.04 rc in vmware fusion 3 and when I get to the gdm login screen, the keyboard isn't working
[22:25] <isolat3dsh33p> PeterDrop_, it's not native linux. :/
[22:25] <SeaPhor> zenergi, screen is a shared terminal/ssh session
[22:25] <PeterDrop_> where i can find changelog beteen releases?
[22:25] <LinuxGuy2009> __mikem:vmware issue most likely
[22:25] <PeterDrop_> yes, i was reading that
[22:25] <zenergi> seaphor: thanks, I'm reading up on the man now
[22:25] <bryanr> LinuxGuy2009, and to upgrade to 10.04, is automatic?
[22:25] <Losha> stryk3r: I don't think you have any choice. Those packages are not available precompiled...
[22:25] <erkan^> :)
[22:25] <__mikem> LinuxGuy2009: no, because the keyboard works fine if i log in through the terminal
[22:26] <LinuxGuy2009> bryanr: Be more specific with your question?
[22:26] <s_v_e_n> ? Im missing a key for the ubuntu-repository. where can I donwload the richt key for apt-key add ?
[22:26] <s_v_e_n> (I need it for a debootstraped lucid running in XEN)
[22:26] <stryk3r> Losha, I see. and how would I phrase that? sudo apt-get install sqlite3.0 ?
[22:26] <Losha> stryk3r: apt-get install libsqlite3-dev
[22:26] <bryanr> LinuxGuy2009, will there be an automatic update i can choose so i can keep my files?
[22:26] <SeaPhor> zenergi, it works well, i use it for common running cmds, and i use irssi so i run that in a screen then from work i can ssh in and join the screen in  progress
[22:26] <NucWin> hey anyone able to help me get ppp over bluetooth working on 10.04? seems there isnt support for dialup by default?
[22:26] <stryk3r> thanks
[22:26] <maco> zenergi: cat on teh device works
[22:26] <tar-> erUSUL: I've also mounted additional drives meant to contain files reached through sftp, these are mounted in /media/... although chmod 777 to get write permissions without being root seems somewhat .. wrong, is acl the way to go here?
[22:27] <LinuxGuy2009> bryanr: Yeah it should tell you in 6 days when it comes out if you want to upgrade
[22:27] <bryanr> LinuxGuy2009, that is great!
[22:27] <Losha> stryk3r: basically, I run apt-cache search sqlite3 and then make an educated guess among the alternatives...
[22:27] <zenergi> SeaPhor: yes, that sounds very useful, thanks for the tip!
[22:27] <maco> SeaPhor: i thought that to share a screen session you had to be the same user?
[22:27] <guntbert> NucWin: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:27] <NucWin> kk thanks
[22:27] <zenergi> maco: thanks, i didn't think of that one either
[22:27] <LinuxGuy2009> !upgrade | bryanr
[22:28] <litropy> hi, all. no matter what I choose using sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, I'm still presented with what looks like a gnome login panel, which doesn't have the option to switch session managers, and I'm stuck in KDE. All I want to do is switch my session manager to gnome. In gnome, this is easy. you just go to the login screen prefpane under system and choose from a dropdown containing all the...
[22:28] <litropy> ...installed session managers. I cannot find something like that in kde. Please help me switch from kde to gnome and thank you in advance.
[22:28] <erUSUL> tar-: chmod is fine but 777 may be to permisive. you can create a group for the people that will be accessing the files and give perm to that gropu....
[22:28] <zuzie> hi again :)
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> tar-: you mount partitions, not drives
[22:28] <PeterDrop_> !repositories
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> tar-: are the partitions formatted NTFS?
[22:29] <tar-> ActionParsnip: pardon me, partitions it is
[22:29] <thefirstdude> OMG, I waited like 1 hour for stupid msg <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Cracking wireless is offtopic here.
[22:29] <maco> litropy: what you pick when you do the dpkg-reconfigure does not determine what session you login to
[22:29] <PeterDrop_> hehe !<- nice xD
[22:29] <tar-> ActionParsnip: ext4
[22:29] <thefirstdude> I am on crapy network I wanna connect to home network
[22:29] <maco> litropy: it only determines what login screen you get
[22:29] <stryk3r> Losha,  DBUS-Glib 0.60 is the next dependency. I did the apt-cache search and it gave me a couple of different ones, not sure which is which
[22:29] <thefirstdude> this is for proof of concept
[22:29] <tar-> erUSUL: thx, 644?
[22:29] <thefirstdude> http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=6835.0
[22:29] <maco> litropy: i checked and i was wrong, and kdm *does* have a dropdown to pick between gnome & kde
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> tar-: hmm, ext4 should carry over the ownerships so should be ok, 777 is really unsecure
[22:29] <thefirstdude> I need to connect using 8 digit pin and I am on linux
[22:29] <SeaPhor> zenergi, maco is correct,,, have to be logged in as same user
[22:29] <thefirstdude> I donno why it matter but it is only numbers 0-9
[22:29] <litropy> maco: but this is *not* kdm
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> tar-: you could chown the data to your user to give it access
[22:29] <thefirstdude> and I am not cracking ofcourse
[22:29] <erUSUL> !permissions | tar-
[22:30] <maco> litropy: can you get it back to kdm?
[22:30] <LinuxGuy2009> !OMG | thefirstdude
[22:30] <Losha> stryk3r: first choice is always any package ending in -dev. Try libdbus-glib-1-dev
[22:30] <maco> litropy: like i said in #kubuntu it wont change what login screen you see til you reboot after a reconfigure. a log out is not enough
[22:30] <zenergi> is there a preferred method for a root shell user to watch/spy on other shell user commands/history/etc?
[22:30] <stryk3r> Losha, kay thanks a lot!
[22:30] <littlebear> ubottu: sigh,
[22:30] <pakete> hi all
[22:31] <thefirstdude> so can someone help me?
[22:31] <tar-> ActionParsnip: the disks are currently empty, i was wondering what "best practice" was :)
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> zenergi: yuo can read the users ~/.bash_history file
[22:31] <zenergi> I noticed that cat /dev/pts/# hangs the terminal
[22:31] <tar-> ubottu: thx :)
[22:31] <bondiblueos9> thefirstdude: if it is 0-9 and a-f, then its hex, and we're at least a little closer to understanding that that pin is
[22:31] <litropy> maco: no. no matter what I choose in sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, or sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm, I'm still presented with a buttonless login pane with gnome's default background.
[22:31] <LinuxGuy2009> !anyone | thefirstdude
[22:31] <pakete> can someone suggest why plymouthd crashes and why there is no boot splash???
[22:31] <pakete> tia
[22:31] <zenergi> ActionParsnip: good idea, thanks
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> tar-: ext4 will be fine, its ntfs you need special stuff for. 777 is very not best practice
[22:31] <bondiblueos9> thefirstdude: do you know if it is a wep or a wpa network?
[22:31] <maco> litropy: even after reboot? ok then drop to a tty and do "sudo stop gdm; sudo start kdm"
[22:31] <zuzie> guess what I never thought that I already fixed it as at reboot it came on nicely :P i simply reinstalled all the acpi packages and removed hibernation from /etc/default/acpi-support :)
[22:32] <thefirstdude> bondiblueos9,  go to http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=6835.0 to at least understand what I am talking about
[22:32] <thefirstdude> it explains it in full
[22:32] <switchgirl> what command to use to get rhythmbox to play a radio station?
[22:32] <litropy> maco: how?
[22:32] <maco> litropy: ctrl+alt+f1
[22:32] <maco> litropy: save what youre doing first as itll log you out
[22:32] <litropy> maco: doing ...
[22:33] <LinuxGuy2009> litropy: CTRL+ALT+F1 , sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop , sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[22:33] <stryk3r> Losha, think im getting the hang of it :)
[22:33] <stryk3r> this one download is 72mb but i guess its still needed
[22:33] <Losha> stryk3r: :-). Are you German?
[22:34] <stryk3r> Losha, Nope. But my friend is from the Netherlands, the one that wrote this, I guess that's why its giving the error feedback in german?
[22:34] <pakete> can somebody help with plymouth??? when i use live usb it boots fine. as soon as i install over the hd, it has no boot splash...it boots with black screen and some text, any ideas what can be done?
[22:34] <stryk3r> Losha, are you?
[22:34] <Losha> stryk3r: Ah, I wondered how come you sounded like a native. I'm British...
[22:34] <CortezTheKiller> i have a question about lucid... whats the room for that?
[22:35] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[22:35] <stryk3r> I'm Puertorican :-)
[22:35] <CortezTheKiller> thanx LinuxGuy2009
[22:35] <thefirstdude> bondiblueos9,  its a WPA2 network
[22:35] <Losha> Lovely international channel...
[22:35] <LinuxGuy2009> I'm hillbillian 8-)
[22:35] <thefirstdude> but I don't know the pass phrase
[22:35] <thefirstdude> I only know the 8 digit pin
[22:35] <thefirstdude> and I CAN connect in windows
[22:35] <thefirstdude> so don't even go there
[22:35] <CortezTheKiller> Im a yankee :)
[22:35] <thefirstdude> I just need to know what to do to connect in linux
[22:36] <thefirstdude> if it is even possible
[22:36] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Why not just ask the owner of the router for the passkey?
[22:36] <JAMD456> I sometimes see an unusual blank program stuck on my dock that appears to do nothing but stay there. I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and Cario dock
[22:36] <csousa> i'm a portuguese
[22:36] <stryk3r> http://pastebin.org/171291 :O help! lol too much i dont understand
[22:36] <bondiblueos9> thefirstdude: according to the link you posted, you should be asking how to connect to a WPS router
[22:37] <thefirstdude> well, I am the owner
[22:37] <abadr> How do I automate installing postfix, since the package runs a setup script? Running apt-get with -y doesn't help.
[22:37] <csousa> lol
[22:37] <thefirstdude> and I don't the the key
[22:37] <erUSUL> !br | csousa
[22:37] <thefirstdude> ok, then pretend I am asking how to connect to wps router, can u help me now?
[22:38] <thefirstdude> I am not the pro here, that is why I am asking for help
[22:38] <LinuxGuy2009> (05:10:04 PM) thefirstdude: my sister has a quest wireless route. when I connect to it using windows it asks for 8 digit pin number on router box, how to convert that to linux
[22:38] <Losha> stryk3r: it's just more of the same, missing development libraries. Before we launch into this, maybe there's a easier way to do this. What exactly do you want this software for?
[22:38] <thefirstdude> well, I am not owner, she is owner
[22:38] <thefirstdude> same thing, she doesn't know she connects via 8 digit pin
[22:39] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Aks your sister what protection it is using WPA, WEP etc and then come back.
[22:39] <stryk3r> losha one sec
[22:39] <thefirstdude> IT says on the box and I already said, WPA2
[22:39] <csousa> no need for portuguese help, i'm bilingual
[22:39] <thefirstdude> so read up
[22:39] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Right so ask your sister for the WPA2 key that she has it set to and your all done.
[22:39] <bondiblueos9> thefirstdude: OR if noone ever set up the router to use a passphrase, you can set it to use one; and then use that in linux; I'm sorry others are being beligerant towards you
[22:40] <Losha> csousa: erUSUL wasn't paying attention and missed our little celebration of internationality...
[22:40] <thefirstdude> did I not just say she doesn't know  it
[22:40] <csousa> lol
[22:40] <thefirstdude> like I am some stupid idiot and I didin't ask her alreadyu
[22:40] <csousa> yep
[22:40] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Reset the router. Use factory settings and go from there.
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> thefirstdude: you could connect via a wired connection and check the config
[22:40] <Losha> thefirstdude: keep a lid on it dude, we're all volunteers here...
[22:40] <erUSUL> Losha: hay i'm spanish myself. so ...
[22:41] <Losha> erUSUL: spanish and a Dune fan?
[22:41] <csousa> mi hermano
[22:41] <erUSUL> Losha: true :)
[22:41] <LinuxGuy2009> !manners | thefirstdude
[22:41] <bondiblueos9> !spelling
[22:42] <pad_s> isnt opera part of any of the standard ubuntu repositories !?
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> !opera | pad_s
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> pad_s: in short yes
[22:42] <thefirstdude> LinuxGuy2009, and you are the only one who makes me feel like you aren't a volunteer, rather a self hired people who need help hater
[22:43] <pad_s> ActionParsnip, thanks
[22:43] <thefirstdude> anyway thanks bondiblue for your help
[22:43] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: You need to have patience and understanding just like we do with you. Otherwise no one will help you.
[22:43] <TranceControl> Hey guys. Im trying to figure something out. I've gotten this script written (not that big of a deal), but i need to be able to exit putty (its on a linux server) and have it still running after i exit putty?
[22:43] <kanzie> Im trying to run fusbi on my ubuntu to make a bootable USB-drive for xbox-live but it requires the udev-package
[22:43] <kanzie> what is it named for apt-get?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> TranceControl: you need to employ screen on the server
[22:44] <guntbert> thefirstdude: please calm down and stay polite - we are no clairvoyants
[22:44] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Most routers have a reset switch on the back. Use it and you can setup a brand new WPA2 key. problem solved.
[22:44] <moreia> kanzie: you can search ubuntu packages directly
[22:44] <TranceControl> ActionParsnip, so i could do : screen for a in */*.rar; do unrar x "$a"; done
[22:44] <_pg_> LinuxGuy2009: applause
[22:44] <TranceControl> ?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: that will disrupt the currently connected/paired systems
[22:44] <z3r0-c001> #ubuntu+1
[22:45] <kanzie> moreia: how do I do that?
[22:45] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Ok so distrupting is worse than not being able to use the network?
[22:45] <stryk3r> Losha, a question, shouldn't the dependencies be installed by themselves if the script tells it too?
[22:45] <moreia> kanzie: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[22:45] <kanzie> moreia: Imalready there
[22:45] <moreia> kanzie: but I don't see fsusbi at all.
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> TranceControl: no, yuo have a few screens on the server, when you connect switch to another screen run your command, switch back to the first screen then disconnect and it will keep running
[22:45] <kanzie> I just wish to find the name to run apt-get
[22:46] <moreia> kanzie: I just got here... was there more background that you gave?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: you can connect via a cable to view the settings without the need for wifi, you will then not disrupt or change anything
[22:46] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Otherwise I would imagine you will still need the old WPA if you login with a cable and try and change it
[22:46] <TranceControl> ActionParsnip, oh .. wasnt aware of that. How do i switch to another screen ?.
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: less destructive
[22:46] <kanzie> moreia: Im trying to run fusbi on my ubuntu to make a bootable USB-drive for xbox-live but it requires the udev-package
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> TranceControl: i only know of it, ive never done it personally
[22:46] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: And when he is asked for the old WPA2 key he is supposed to enter what exactly?
[22:46] <moreia> kanzie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=udev
[22:47] <moreia> kanzie: so I think the package really is just "udev"
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: the key will be visible via the wired connection in the routers config page so once the key is learned the cable can be disconnected and the wireless can be then connected to using the newly learned key
[22:47] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: My bad your correct.
[22:47] <moreia> kanzie: apt-get install udev (or ... aptitude install udev)
[22:47] <ecrane> Hi, can someone tell me how to configure my ubuntu nfs server to start up in verbose mode? Need to trace back why windoze can't talk to it....
[22:47] <rosco> All:  sorry, i had a phone call about the website.
[22:47] <norbi905> Sorry to ask this here, but it is sort of Ubuntu related.  I'm planning to purchase an SSD drive.  Is there anything I should look out for?  Any issues in regarding running Ubuntu off of it?
[22:47] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip:  Yes your right.
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: instead of critisizing, try helping
[22:47] <erUSUL> ecrane: well windows does not support nfs out of the box
[22:48] <blocky> ActionParsnip I believe if you call screen whatever and then logout, you will detach from the screen but it will remain running, no?
[22:48] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: You being a troll today too?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: if you help folks they tend to chill out. saying "chill out" makes people do the opposite
[22:48] <kanzie> moreia: says its already installed... bummer
[22:48] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Chill out
[22:48] <bondiblueos9> LinuxGuy2009: you could be seen as being a troll
[22:48] <moreia> Seriously, all of you. Knock it off.
[22:48] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: You as well
[22:48] <ecrane> erUSUL: yeah well I installed 'nfs' services for windows per this article http://sagehacks.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/howto-mount-nfs-shares-under-windows-7/  I can connect to my NFS server from another unix box, so really want I want to do is start my NFS server with verbose mode and see if windows is even 'trying' to reach it. Do you know how to do that?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> blocky: not sure, ive heard people advise it ni the past. not something i use dude
[22:48] <bondiblueos9> LinuxGuy2009: well of course, just by mentioning trolling I can be one
[22:49] <LinuxGuy2009> I was mad cause of the attitude that thefirstdude was blowing off.
[22:49] <erUSUL> ecrane: no sorry; maybe in #ubuntu-server
[22:49] <ecrane> erUSUL: Ty, will ask there.
[22:49] <blocky> cool well in my experience you can essentially prepend your command with Screen and detach, then next login type screen -d -RR to detach anyone else and force reattachment to the first screen found
[22:49] <rosco> ALL:  thank you for your help!  i'm going to give Kompozer a try.  one more question?  what is the best way to buy a domain?
[22:50] <blocky> detach meaning logout
[22:50] <LinuxGuy2009> !godaddy
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: exactly, so if you let it slide then you will be more productive, by retaliating you only exacerbate the situation
[22:50] <blocky> I'm not sure the original asker is still here
[22:50] <rosco> ALL:  godaddy.com?  but after buying it, i can just post to it?
[22:50] <timposey> when I set up my computer for desktop sharing, how do I view it from another computer?  Is it with through the web browser or what?
[22:50] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Dude move on. Get a life
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> timposey: you need a vnc clientr
[22:50] <ecrane> timposey: You can use a VNC client
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: achieved
[22:50] <blocky> LinuxGuy2009 you are telling someone to get a life on a ubuntu support channel?
[22:50]  * bondiblueos9 claps
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> !attitude | LinuxGuy2009
[22:51] <moreia> Is there a "take it outside" ubottu command?
[22:51] <bondiblueos9> !troll
[22:51] <blocky> #cagematch
[22:51] <timposey> actionparsnip ecrane:  Thanks, I'll look for that.
[22:51] <LinuxGuy2009> I am a volunteer Your preaching to the choir
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> timposey: don't use it over the www without an ssh tunnel. vnc is not encrypted
[22:52] <_pg_> #littlegirlsissyfight
[22:53] <LinuxGuy2009> haha
[22:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Darn right
[22:53] <pirx|home> hello! does anyone here run ubuntu on a Dell laptop?
[22:53] <linx|> yes
[22:53] <_pg_> pirx|home: yes
[22:54] <LinuxGuy2009>  pirx|home: Dell Mini 10v here.
[22:54] <pirx|home> any problems with that? (i am thinking about getting a vostro 3500)
[22:54] <linx|> pirx|home: various dells, including 9300 and 6400, d800 etc
[22:54] <LinuxGuy2009>  pirx|home: Ask dell they will know.
[22:54] <SeaPhor> ActionParsnip is the cmd still "vncviewer -via username@IPAddress IPAddress::Port "
[22:54] <LinuxGuy2009>  pirx|home: They may even sell one with it preinstalled.
[22:54] <_pg_> LinuxGuy2009: osx on it perhaps?
[22:54] <linx|> pirx|home: you should check the major components work, but dell are pretty good with ubuntu
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> _pg_:No never tired it
[22:55] <linx|> _pg_: just buy a mac if you want to do that
[22:55] <pirx|home> i heard that Dell has (had?) a small partition somehow dedicated for the BIOS. is it like that still?
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> yuk
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> SeaPhor: not used it dude, i think vnc is very OTT for most users need
[22:55] <_pg_> LinuxGuy2009: try it. it is stupid easy. and awesome
[22:55] <linx|> _pg_: hackintosh is just too painful.
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> pirx|home: never heard of that before
[22:55] <_pg_> linx|: usually yes, but on these dell minis it runs like a dream
[22:55] <linx|> _pg_: ugly hardware, inability to update, yadda yadda
[22:56] <blocky> pirx|home Often dell laptops will contain recovery or media center partitions
[22:56] <_pg_> linx|: ugly hardware is dells fault, and my mini9 runs latest everything. 10.6.3
[22:56] <LinuxGuy2009>  _pg_: Dont I have to have a Mac to make the USB key?
[22:56] <linx|> _pg_: which mini ?
[22:56] <linx|> k
[22:56] <avis> you can't even copy and paste with a mac :/  it boggles the mind
[22:56] <avis> oops cut and paste
[22:56] <_pg_> LinuxGuy2009: hmmm maybe. I dont know. lol I did for mine but Im sure there are other ways
[22:56] <linx|> avis: of course you can
[22:56] <_pg_> avis: seriously?
[22:56] <arand> pirx|home: Dell normally has a diagnostics partition, recovery, windows, and possibly mediadirect partitions. I don't know how they implement the w7 boot partition.
[22:56] <linx|> avis: yes you can
[22:56] <avis> with a script ?
[22:57] <_pg_> avis: are you serious?
[22:57] <linx|> you can cut and paste easily from most apps
[22:57] <hardran3> command-X, command-V
[22:57] <linx|> howver, you cant cut files
[22:57] <avis> offtopic
[22:57] <linx|> (wtf does cutting files mean anyway?)
[22:57] <_pg_> avis: lmfao
[22:57] <avis> laught all you want
[22:57] <avis> offtopic
[22:57] <LinuxGuy2009> pirx|home: Call Dell or get online chat with them and ask what models support Ubuntu. They will know.
[22:58] <_pg_> avis: why in the world would osx not have cut/copy/paste?
[22:58] <avis> i'm staying on topic
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: mac os is offtopic here
[22:58] <_pg_> avis: !turtle
[22:58] <LinuxGuy2009> grrrr
[22:58] <blocky> linx|cut removes from the original location when it pastes to the new one, copy retains the original as well
[22:58] <pzn> I'm using ubuntu 9.10 alternate CD. I opted for encrypted root filesystem. now it is asking me about "encrypted private home". I think I should answer "no", because I'm the only user of this notebook and root is already encrypted. is my way of thinking ok?
[22:59] <ArkoldThos> heya, I just got a problem with current Ubuntu and 10.04 - both doesn't detect (with nvidia-settings) the dual monitor (using recommended nvidia drivers)
[22:59] <emet> what time is it PST right now
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | ArkoldThos
[22:59] <ArkoldThos> ActionParsnip, with both not just with Lynx :) plus with Debian Squeeze
[22:59] <mcbelme> Spanish
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> pzn: may as well, makes the whole lot encrypted then
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> ArkoldThos: lucid isn't discussed here at all
[23:00] <arand> !es | mcbelme
[23:00] <LinuxGuy2009> ArkoldThos: Dual headed card?
[23:00] <pzn> ActionParsnip: answering "yes" will only make things slower...crypt-over-crypt, ok?
[23:00] <litropy> hi, peeps. I'm trying to change my default session manager. when I go to the Login Screen prefpane, it is locked. When I click Unlock, nothing happens. No authpane, no window state change.
[23:00] <ArkoldThos> LinuxGuy2009, yeap, it worked before (with an old installation I had like a year ago)
[23:00] <ArkoldThos> since then I didn't tried again
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> pzn: your call dude, ive not used encryptfs
[23:01] <arand> pzn: Are you creating separae /home and / ?
[23:01] <LinuxGuy2009> ArkoldThos: Did you look in nvidia x server settings?
[23:01] <arand> pzn: *separate
[23:01] <avis> have a nice day
[23:01] <pzn> arand: no, just / and swap partitions. I have some important things, mainly at /var/lib/postgres that can't be read if my notebook gets lost.
[23:02] <pzn> arand: and it automatically created /boot too
[23:02] <heroid> has any of you guys updated from 9.10 to 10.04 RC yet?
[23:02] <heroid> and does it crash
[23:03] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[23:03] <pzn> heroid: maybe you'd better ask at channel #ubuntu+1
[23:03] <arand> pzn: I would assume that full / encryption would encrypt /home as well in that case. But I haven't used ecryptfs either, sorry.
[23:03] <pzn> arand: ok, I'll keep assuming that, finish the install and then check
[23:04] <[crt]> I have installed Ubuntu Karmic for 2 users who both have an Atheros wireless chip (using ath9k driver). Both of these users are having a very low wireless signal and frequently disconnects. They didn't seem to have this problem in Windows 7. I use another linux distribution on a laptop and a netbook which both also use ath9k drivers for the Atheros chipset and do not experience these wireless problems myself; but I do use kernel 2.6.33 so maybe this could be why. 
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> [crt]: the 33 kernel isnt supported here
[23:05] <[crt]> ActionParsnip: maybe not, but at least 2.6.32 ?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> [crt]: absolutely as it is on the official repos
[23:05] <andruk> is there a linux alternative to http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/map-your-homes-wifi-signal-strength-with-heatmapper/
[23:05] <[crt]> ActionParsnip: Ah, I'll give that a try then. Thanks a lot. :)
[23:06] <engie> Hi. I'm trying to mount an ecryptfs home directory from another (dead) machine. I have the passphrase, and the mount appears to work fine, but the directory that is mounted shows the files from my *local* encrypted home directory. How can I force it to use the external .Private as the lower dir ?
[23:06] <ArkoldThos> LinuxGuy2009, why did you ask if the card is dual head? :o
[23:07] <LinuxGuy2009> ArkoldThos: Cause I did.
[23:07] <erUSUL> [crt]: try installing the backported wireless modules
[23:08] <erUSUL> !info linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic | [crt]
[23:08] <Tophu> ok I need a little help. I managed to get the touchscreen working on my tablet. and even got the screen to rotate 180 when I fold it town into tablet mode but the mouse inputs didn't spin 180 with it ... anyone know how to do this?
[23:08] <norbi905> I'm about to purchase an SSD drive.  Planning to install Ubuntu on it, is there anything I should look for in regards to compatibility?
[23:08] <[crt]> erUSUL: Great, I'll look into those, thanks.
[23:09] <erUSUL> norbi905: no; ssd look like hard disks to all OS's
[23:09] <brah-> I had a nightmare I accidently uninstalled ubuntu, fortunately when I wokeup I realized I never installed it in the first place
[23:10] <erUSUL> ...
[23:10] <norbi905> erUSUL, Thanks.  From the little research that i'v done, it was suggested to put /boot /bin /usr/bin on the SSD, and everything else on magnetic drive.  Does this sounds ideal?
[23:10] <SpamapS> brah-: were there trolls in your nightmare too?
[23:10]  * erUSUL smelly troll is unsuccesfull
[23:10] <SpamapS> ;)
[23:10] <SeaPhor> Tophu, if you don't find the answer by tuesday, i'll ask our cert-team if they had issues on the HP-Tablet , i know they ran certification on it
[23:11] <erUSUL> norbi905: it depends on the workload i suppose.
[23:11] <bondiblueos9> if I'm booted up, and I have a scsi device recognized and working and all; can I unplug it and plug it back in, and still have it working?
[23:11] <Tophu> sweet I'm at the level were I can follow guides on teh forums except when they have me compile stuff cause that always errors out for me
[23:11] <brah-> no need for hostility, i'm sure one day linux will reach that 1% total market share it's been striving for this last decade
[23:11] <gigawatt> hi
[23:11] <PeterDrop> i just test the Lucid version and no sound, the advance: the sound card was detected, but no sound .. :(
[23:12] <Tophu> I'm not a complete nitwit (been using ubuntu off and on since 7.10) but just don't know the low level stuff
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> brah-: do you have a support question?
[23:12] <bondiblueos9> eveyone is a complete nitwit today
[23:12] <gigawatt> is there a way to install and OS to a hard drive in side a linux install
[23:12] <bondiblueos9> !nitwit
[23:12] <LinuxGuy2009> Tophu: debian new maintainers guide is good to learn basic compiling from source etc.
[23:12] <erUSUL> #/ignore -ALL -REPLY brah-
[23:12] <erUSUL> oops
[23:12] <bondiblueos9> lol
[23:12] <PeterDrop> LinuxGuy2009, no luck for me :8, no sound
[23:12] <SeaPhor> Tophu, if you want you can PM me, and i'll tell you where to look on tuesday
[23:12] <brah-> Action, no i'm just a fan of the ubuntu
[23:13] <LinuxGuy2009> !vbox | gigawatt
[23:13] <brah-> I like the jungle music
[23:13] <gigawatt> i mean more like i have a hard drive that i want to put in another computer but first i have to install linux on to in from my current linux install
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> brah-: this is a  pure support channel only
[23:13] <arand> brah-: For chat, head on over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:14] <LinuxGuy2009> gigawatt: set vbox to use the physical drive and install.
[23:14] <techhelper1> virtualbox is free on all platforms
[23:14] <techhelper1> so idk why they put that in
[23:14] <PeterDrop> ActionParsnip, can u apointme in some direction in order to fix my sound problem
[23:14] <techhelper1> !free
[23:14] <gigawatt> ok thanks
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> PeterDrop: i am no good with sound dude, i havent had a single sound issue
[23:14] <joscht> for mediatomb does someone know how to refresh the database?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> techhelper1: theres also a nonfree version ;)
[23:14] <PeterDrop> :( ok
[23:14] <arand> techhelper1: free as in freedom/free as in beer ;)
[23:15] <techhelper1> ActionParsnip: but what does it do different from free though
[23:15] <sebsebseb> brah-:  Ubuntu,  Fedora,  Mandriva, PC Linux OS, and quite a lot of other Desktop Linux distro's out there as well,  I expect together they have a bit more than 1% market share already.  Also when it comes to other aspects of computing, most of today's web servers are run using Apache on a Linux distro.  Plus most super computer users run Linux.  Yes not everyone in the Linux camp likes Ubuntu, and not everyone who has tried it liked it, but
[23:15] <sebsebseb> trolling it's support channel as a result, is rather silly really.
[23:15] <brah-> sebsebseb spam is offtopic, please focus on support only, thanks!
[23:15] <TheMozart> when does the latest ubuntu come out?
[23:16] <acicula> 29th
[23:16] <LinuxGuy2009> !troll | brah-
[23:16] <TheMozart> ok cool 1 more week
[23:16] <brah-> heres a better one
[23:16] <brah-> !define troll
[23:16] <brah-> troll is a term used by incompentant socially inept angry individuals who've recently loss a dicussion, and feel cornered, and borderline sucidal, they thought self projecting their inner fail would result in a moment of levity, and they thought wrong
[23:16] <FloodBot2> brah-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:16] <sebsebseb> !ops | brah trolling
[23:16]  * erUSUL raise his "Do *not* feed the troll" sign
[23:16] <futurama140> How can I run an EXE from a textbook CD meant for windows? I have wine installed, but I don't know how to accomplish this specific task.
[23:17] <brah-> !ops | sevsebseb trolling
[23:17] <acicula> futurama140: double click in nautilus or do a wine <exefile>
[23:17] <acicula> brah-: can you stp
[23:17] <LinuxGuy2009> futurama140: Set the permission of EXE to executable and run with wine
[23:17] <futurama140> LinuxGuy2009: ty
[23:17] <LinuxGuy2009> !wine | futurama140
[23:17] <futurama140> acicula: ty
[23:20] <JabberWalkie> ok, so I want to convert a bunch of picture files using convert, but doing somthing like convert *.TIF *.jpeg, results in a bunch of files named *-1.jpeg and so on....so how do I refer to the wildcard used in that line a second time....
[23:21] <arand> JabberWalkie: use bash for loop; for i in *.png; do command $i; done
[23:22] <jhambo> should I be able to browse an .iso file in dolphin or is there some other program I should use?
[23:22] <LinuxGuy2009> !file-roller
[23:22] <Daedchon> Hello
[23:22] <LinuxGuy2009> jhambo: Also can browse ISOs
[23:23] <chinopom> Hola a todos
[23:23] <LinuxGuy2009> !es
[23:23] <JabberWalkie> woah, you can run a loop over files!??!
[23:23] <JabberWalkie> awesome
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> jhambo: i believe it can, you can always mount the iso and access it like a normal data folder
[23:24] <JabberWalkie> I thought it was just numbers
[23:24] <erUSUL> JabberWalkie: do « for file in *.TIF; do convert [options] "$file" "${file/TIF/jpeg}" ; done »
[23:24] <LinuxGuy2009> jhambo: mount file.iso -o loop /foldertomountto
[23:25] <jhambo> LinuxGuy2009: ark doesn't seem to recognize .iso as something it can handle... and dolphin doenst know how to open an iso either.  I was wondering if maybe some package gives dolphin the ability to browse .iso
[23:25] <LinuxGuy2009> (06:24:43 PM) LinuxGuy2009: jhambo: mount file.iso -o loop /foldertomountto
[23:25] <jhambo> I know krusader lets you browse them but I don't like krusader much otherwise
[23:25] <ceil420> jhambo: mounting it will let you browse the files in it from any file browser
[23:25] <bigtom21485> alright if someone wants to help me with my sound card, that'd be great.
[23:25] <bigtom21485> it keeps turning itself down, but none of the controls are changing.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> jhambo: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[23:26] <LinuxGuy2009> There is an echo in here
[23:26] <Tophu> o next big linux project drag and drop media directly to an iphone/ipod touch lets do this
[23:26] <ceil420> ActionParsnip: any reason he couldn't just use /mnt?
[23:26] <bach12_> oooooop
[23:26] <jhambo> thanks
[23:26] <bach12_> hola
[23:26] <bach12_> fanny
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> ceil420: its better to use a subdir in /mnt or /media
[23:26] <gigawatt> i had a device that auto-mounted and the suddenly unmounted, and it won't remount with "mount"
[23:26] <ceil420> Tophu: i prefer the linux project where a guy installed Android on a 1st gen iPhone :p
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> ceil420: rather than /mnt itself
[23:26] <ceil420> ActionParsnip: why?
[23:27] <Daedchon> What's a good IRC program for Ubuntu?
[23:27] <erUSUL> Daedchon: xchat
[23:27] <ceil420> Daedchon: xchat. or irssi if you like the terminal :)
[23:27] <JabberWalkie> erUSUL: awesome, thanks...what is this called btw? ${file/TIF/jpeg} ??
[23:28] <erUSUL> JabberWalkie: parameter expansion in bash manpage
[23:28] <JabberWalkie> k, thx
[23:28] <Daedchon> I tried to install irssi but I couldn't.  User error, I JUST started using Ubuntu
[23:28] <erUSUL> JabberWalkie: my example will fail if the file has TIF in the name :(
[23:28] <JabberWalkie> oh, well it dosn't so no worries :)
[23:29] <erUSUL> Daedchon: in kubuntu quassel or konversation. chatzilla firefox estension is aldo nice
[23:29] <erUSUL> Daedchon: in kubuntu quassel or konversation. chatzilla firefox estension is also nice
[23:29] <Daedchon> I use Chrome
[23:29] <bach12_> ooooop
[23:29] <Daedchon> :)
[23:29] <bach12_> eeeeeeeeee
[23:30] <erUSUL> JabberWalkie: do « for file in *.TIF; do convert [options] "$file" "${file/.TIF/.jpeg}" ; done » more likely not to mess anything
[23:30] <gigawatt> frenzy@lentil:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdi /dev/windows
[23:30] <gigawatt> NTFS signature is missing.
[23:30] <gigawatt> Failed to mount '/dev/sdi': Invalid argument
[23:30] <gigawatt> The device '/dev/sdi' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[23:30] <gigawatt> Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a
[23:30] <gigawatt> partition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?
[23:30] <ceil420> gigawatt: use a pastebin...
[23:30] <erUSUL> !paste
[23:30] <jhambo> I used irssi for a very long time but have now switched to quassel.  It's nice.  more easily configured if you don't want to read the manual
[23:30] <ceil420> jhambo: zat run nicely in a screen/ssh session?
[23:30] <coachj> ubuntu doesn't detect my sansa player. which is con an an MSC device
[23:30] <gigawatt> this is what im trying to do http://paste.ubuntu.com/421320/
[23:30] <Dark{L}ee> hi
[23:31] <erUSUL> gigawatt: itr is more likely /dev/sdi1  and the mount point can not be in /dev/
[23:31] <Daedchon> I'll look into it, thanks Jhamb
[23:31] <gigawatt> oh duh sorry
[23:31] <jhambo> ceil420: quassel? no.  It's a gui kde thing
[23:31] <CyberGabber> hoe w/part
[23:31] <sencible>  hola
[23:31] <gigawatt> how do i list all the connected /dev devices
[23:31] <erUSUL> !es | sencible
[23:31] <sencible> de donde spn todos ustede?
[23:32] <sencible> hola
[23:32] <erUSUL> gigawatt: disks ? ls -ls /dev/disk/by-id/
[23:32] <erUSUL> sencible: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[23:32] <sencible> hola  busco amigos de torreon
[23:33] <sencible> no hay nadi ek responda
[23:33] <LinuxGuy2009> gigawatt: ls /dev | cat
[23:33] <sencible> hello
[23:33] <erUSUL> sencible: aqui solo se usa ingles. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[23:33] <sencible>  en buscacd amigos
[23:35] <sencible> ps no entiendo nos vemos me voy ok adioos
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> gigawatt: sudo fdisk -l; mount; sudo blkid
[23:35] <sencible>   gtraccias
[23:36] <niks1608> who can help , with old isue install hp psc 1350 ??
[23:36] <flohack> Hi! I'm trying to boot the live rc cd from an usb stick which is formatted to comply with the USB-ZIP boot options. Can somone tell we which options I have to pass to caspar to make it boot from the usb device instead of /dev/sr0 (the default)? root=/dev/sda4 does not help at all.
[23:36] <sencible> hola
[23:36] <sencible> hola responda alguien
[23:36] <sencible>  hola responda alguien
[23:36] <erUSUL> sencible: aqui solo se usa ingles. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[23:37] <gigawatt> here are all the mount options i'v tried none of them work http://paste.ubuntu.com/421323/
[23:38] <frostbite> Hi is there a ubuntu for mac channel? if so where?
[23:39] <erUSUL> frostbite: no; we have a !ppc factoid though ;)
[23:39] <LinuxGuy2009> !mac
[23:39] <LinuxGuy2009> oops
[23:40] <bigtom21485> sweet i could make a triple-boot computer.
[23:40] <LinuxGuy2009> !apple
[23:40] <Tophu> ok I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/421326/ set as an executable script that is ran on startup .. this enables my tablet to auto rotate the display 180 when I put it in tablet mode .. but the mouse input isnt rotating with it ... can anyone help me fix this script to achieve that?
[23:40] <bigtom21485> is it possible to run mac os x tiger on amd64 hardware?
[23:40] <Tophu> or is that a change I have to make to xorg.conf
[23:41] <niks1608> who can help , with old isue install hp psc 1350 ??
[23:41] <erUSUL> bigtom21485: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:41] <Tophu> @bigtom I think you are in the wrong channel
[23:41] <bigtom21485> niks1608: what is your problem? :-)
[23:42] <LinuxGuy2009> bigtom21485:join ##apple
[23:42] <bryanr> we..
[23:42] <bryanr> they..
[23:42] <bryanr> they are coming for us
[23:42] <bryanr> the aliens
[23:43] <BenUrban> only US? what about the rest of the world?
[23:43] <bryanr> the ubuntu users
[23:43] <bryanr> we are  closest to them
[23:43] <OerH> 5 more days ?
[23:43] <nhandler> bryanr: You might like #ubuntu-offtopic a bit more ;)
[23:44] <jesnor> hello, im having problem installing ubuntu on a 2TB western digital green disk, the partitioning/formatting seems to hang, anyone got some tips?
[23:44] <LinuxGuy2009> #ubuntu-offtopic alien experts!
[23:44] <OerH> jesnor, howlong is it doing partitioning, and do you see any led activity ?
[23:45] <LinuxGuy2009>  jesnor: Are you trying to use fakeraid by chance?
[23:45] <OerH> 2 tb could take a big while
[23:45] <bryanr> forget me. for i am to be taken tonight
[23:45] <erUSUL> jesnor: could that be one of the new 4kb sector hard drives ? maybe you just have to use a jumper to set it to compatibility mode ?
[23:45] <jesnor> LinuxGuy2009: no raid active AFAIK
[23:46]  * erUSUL checks for full moon
[23:46] <LinuxGuy2009> jesnor: You might try creating new partition tables if the drives are not new.
[23:46] <greezmunkey> ]/me shows him one ;)
[23:46] <greezmunkey> doh
[23:46] <gmonnie> anybody know the panel reset command, i forgot it lol
[23:47] <jesnor> its one of these: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=773
[23:48] <niks1608> who can help , with old isue install hp psc 1350 ??
[23:48] <xzcvczx> by default does ubuntu make seperate /home and /usr partitions?
[23:48] <jesnor> maybe its just taking a long time, but the progress bar is stuck at 5% (9.04 installation)
[23:48] <gmonnie> i need the comman to reset panels to default, anybody know it
[23:48] <greezmunkey> xzcvczx: no
[23:48] <gmonnie> comman
[23:48] <gmonnie> command i meant
[23:48] <xzcvczx> greezmunkey: really?
[23:48] <LinuxGuy2009> xzcvczx: manual partitioning durring installation allows you to accomplish just that
[23:49] <OerH> niks1608, hp psc 1350 is supported with hplips http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/psc/psc_1300_series.html
[23:49] <xixor> Yo.  Is there a way with GRUB, to configure it to boot whatever the selection was last time the computer booted?  I dual boot windows and linux, and I'd like to be able to reboot either OS remotely
[23:49] <bigtom21485> bryanr: that's what she said, lol
[23:49] <erUSUL> xixor: i think that option savedefault does exactly that
[23:49] <abadr> How come "FOO=bar echo $FOO" doesn't work?
[23:49] <xzcvczx> LinuxGuy2009: yeah i am trying to work out what the hell has happened to someones partition table and /usr and /home are empty on the mounted drive (of the 1 data partition thats left)
[23:49] <erUSUL> xixor: at least in grub1 dunno about grub2
[23:50] <xzcvczx> LinuxGuy2009: with the partition they are empty on being 2.3GB
[23:50] <nhandler> gmonnie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2450460&postcount=2
[23:50] <ninjai> is there a way I can dump my memory to a readable file?
[23:50] <greezmunkey> ninjai: unless you are a computer, not that I know of :)
[23:51] <xixor> erUSUL: thanks, i'll google around and see what I can do
[23:51] <LinuxGuy2009> ninjai: /dev/mem > file ?
[23:51] <ninjai> greezmunkey: I jsut realized I can use a hex editor :)
[23:51] <greezmunkey> ninjai: there ya go!
[23:52] <LinuxGuy2009> ninjai: That work for ya?
[23:53] <ninjai> linuxguy2009: yes
[23:53] <HowardtheDuck> hi
[23:54] <rafaelsoaresbr> grub.cfg is not to be edited. right? how to disable the grub2's countdown?
[23:55] <gmonnie> nhandler: i tried that, says command not found
[23:55] <ninjai> wahts the best hex editor for linux? bliss is OK but it wont let me copy chunks of hex
[23:55] <nhandler> gmonnie: What command causes that?
[23:55] <erUSUL> !best
[23:55] <LinuxGuy2009> ninjai: browse the software center.
[23:55] <erUSUL> rafaelsoaresbr: /etc/default/grub
[23:55] <linxeh> ninjai: best is subjective
[23:55] <gmonnie> gnome-sessin-remove gnome panel
[23:56] <ninjai> linuxguy2009: that things crap.  apt-cache finds more programs in my experience and I tried bliss and ghex
[23:56] <ninjai> linxeh: okay, how about one that lets me copy hex? lol
[23:56] <greezmunkey> That bot command needs to be deleted, or at least be made smart enough to actually offer a few examples. It is simply not an answer.
[23:56] <nhandler> gmonnie: gnome-session-remove (you forgot an o)
[23:56] <linxeh> ninjai: emacs ? :P
[23:57] <dima-linux> does anyone know, how can i port firefox data from ubuntu in other ubuntu? where are passwords stored?
[23:57] <gmonnie> i just copied and pasted that was i typo
[23:57] <gmonnie> on my end
[23:58] <linxeh> dima-linux: there is a .mozilla directory in your home directory
[23:58] <ninjai> linxeh: not command line... for that I would use hexer.  I want a GUI one
[23:58] <gmonnie> i got the panel removed now how can i get it back
[23:58] <erUSUL> !resetpanels
[23:58] <ninjai> gnomie: right click your other panel and click new panel
[23:58] <rafaelsoaresbr> erUSUL, thanks. another question. how to remove other OS entries?
[23:58] <dima-linux> how can i enter .mozilla dir ?
[23:58] <linxeh> ninjai: emacs runs in X
[23:59] <erUSUL> !grub2 | rafaelsoaresbr
[23:59] <nhandler> dima-linux: In nautilus, hit Ctrl+h to view hidden folders
[23:59] <PeterDrop> what type of sound card ( to buy) for avoid problems with sound, i mean ubuntu suport certain types of sound cards, whit drivers and stufss?
[23:59] <ninjai> rafaelsoaresbr: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:59] <dima-linux> ah, thanks
[23:59] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: onboard sound cards should work
[23:59] <ninjai> linxeh: orly? I thought it was only command line!
[23:59] <dima-linux> didn't know something about hidden files :D
[23:59] <gmonnie> thanks
[23:59] <PeterDrop> but dont