[00:28] <tsingi> anyone here got a delta 1010?
[00:29] <rlameiro> i just have an Edirol
[00:30] <tsingi> I'm having trouble getting it set up.
[00:30] <tsingi> As in, I don't even know where to start.
[00:31] <rlameiro> well, it should be supported
[00:31] <rlameiro> did you tried with jack?
[00:31] <tsingi> I did run Jack, and envy24control.
[00:32] <rlameiro> well, check the settings at the envy24control
[00:32] <tsingi> I see it, I have a midi keyboard connected, but I don't get any feedback.
[00:32] <rlameiro> i readed that on #opensourcemusician that you could setup soemthings
[00:32] <tsingi> I'll take a look there.
[00:33] <tsingi> Thanks
[00:33] <rlameiro> well, my FA101 dont have problems, but the delta1010 its well supported on linux
[00:33] <rlameiro> tsingi: are you using ubuntustudio?
[00:33] <tsingi> I have that instaled, yes.
[00:34] <rlameiro> well, if you can stick around the channel
[00:34] <tsingi> I can certainly leave it open.
[00:34] <rlameiro> never now you can help someone :D
[00:34] <tsingi> :)
[00:34] <rlameiro> or have someone that has a delta and helpyou straight
[00:34] <tsingi> That's what I was hoping to find
[00:36] <rlameiro> tsingi: you know, normally the channel users arent always looking at it
[00:36] <rlameiro> if you stick around you usually get some answers
[00:36] <tsingi> yeah, that's standard
[00:36] <tsingi> I will be patient
[00:37] <rlameiro> normally takes more time to have support from comercial companies :D
[00:37] <rlameiro> if you want you can also hang around #opensourcemusicians
[00:37] <tsingi> Well, Linux is all I have, so that's not an option for me.
[00:37] <rlameiro> iits a linus music podcast
[00:37] <rlameiro> great people there
[00:39] <tsingi> hehe, works better with the 's' on the end, thanks rlameiro
[00:40] <rlameiro> tsingi: oops
[00:40] <holstein> tsingi: pipemanmusic over in #opensourcemusicans has a delta1010lt
[00:40] <tsingi> cool
[00:40] <rlameiro> yeah holstein, he is going home right now
[00:40] <holstein> yeah, hes not in right now
[00:40] <rlameiro> he should log in later
[00:40] <tsingi> he's not there right now, I will watch for him
[00:40] <holstein> BUT i know he likes it
[00:41] <rlameiro> and that works very well :D
[03:45] <lifestream> Does anyone know what this problem could be? I am editing a xfc GIMP image RBG mode. When I ctrl click, instead of selecting the color i just clicked on, it selects... black. Then, I try to paint, and it's black. No matter which color I try to ctrl click to pick, it is always black
[03:45] <holstein> lifestream: hey
[03:45] <holstein> are you sure its black?
[03:45] <holstein> and not just dark hues?
[03:46] <lifestream> Hmmm...  always 000000
[03:46] <holstein> w0w
[03:46] <holstein> that sucks
[03:46] <holstein> hmmm
[03:46] <lifestream> Aparently the problem is that I was trying to select the color from the wrong layer @_@
[03:46] <holstein> i guess that could be a GIMP bug
[03:47] <holstein> OH
[03:47] <holstein> that'll do it
[03:47] <lifestream> Odd.
[03:47]  * holstein is an audio guy :)
[03:47] <lifestream> :-)
[03:47] <lifestream> I'm used to photoshop, it picks the visible color, no need to change layers
[03:48] <holstein> have you checked out http://www.rawtherapee.com/
[03:48] <holstein> i havent ;)
[03:48] <holstein> but ive heard good things
[03:48] <holstein> like CMYK
[03:49] <holstein> http://www.sourcetrunk.com/
[03:49] <holstein> thats the review source for me
[03:50] <lifestream> No I hadn't heard of it :O  *looks around the site*
[03:50] <holstein> i think the guy said adobe lightroom-like
[03:50] <lifestream> Looks like it's mostly automated photo enhancing tool
[03:50] <lifestream> But it looks good.
[03:51] <lifestream> I'm looking for painting program though ^.^
[03:51] <lifestream> But that does look like a really nice photo editor :O
[03:51] <holstein> yeah, the GIMP just need to get CMYK going on
[03:52] <holstein> lifestream: you like inkscape?
[03:52] <holstein> the tutorials are nice in inkscape
[03:52] <holstein> its still a little over my head though
[03:53] <holstein> i just dont do much with graphics
[03:53] <lifestream> holstein,  I just do digital painting, I don't touch vector :P   Like oil painting, but digital  :p
[03:53] <holstein> COOL
[03:54] <lifestream> I love vector images though :-) Just better at painting myself
[04:00] <tsingi> lifestream: I love vector images too, I'm one of the authors of SVG
[04:00]  * lifestream bows deeply  to SVG god
[04:00] <tsingi> :) Thanks
[04:01] <lifestream> Absolutely love it when I see svg in Wikipedia, also use a few SVG wallpapers, it works really well
[04:01] <holstein> w00t tsingi
[04:01] <tsingi> ever play with InkScape?
[04:02] <tsingi> It's nice to see it used in WikiPedia, they have lots of good SVG there.
[04:02] <lifestream> Me? I have, but I am not good at creating SVG art.  My primary concern is taking my pencil drawn art, scanning to computer, then painting it digitally, because I cannot afford real painting tools :P
[04:05] <tsingi> I pretty much use it for engineering purposes.  I do life drawing, but I use paper too.
[04:06] <lifestream> Oh yes, and I'm too clumsy, so I can easily ruin hours of work in just one second :P
[04:06] <lifestream> Digital gives me backups ! :P
[04:06] <lifestream> So do you use inkscape for that?
[04:07] <tsingi> no, I generate it.
[04:07] <tsingi> lifestream: take a look at this, something fun my daughter sent me, not SVG: http://mrdoob.com/projects/harmony/#chrome
[04:07] <holstein> tsingi: w0w
[04:08] <lifestream> What programming?
[04:08] <tsingi> yeah
[04:08] <tsingi> Professionally, I write air traffic control software on Linux.
[04:08] <tsingi> I use SVG for sisplay tech.
[04:08] <tsingi> display
[04:09] <lifestream> is there supposed to be a picture there? must be missing fireofx plugin
[04:09] <tsingi> no, you have to draw it.
[04:09] <tsingi> it's a sketch pad app, lots of neat features.
[04:09] <lifestream> ohj really? *picks up wacom stylus* :D
[04:10] <tsingi> I have a wacom too
[04:10]  * holstein just got one
[04:10] <lifestream> LOL I just attempted to use the stylus to draw on the laptop trackpad:P
[04:10] <holstein> if i cant figure out what to do with it, im going to give it to someone who can :)
[04:10] <tsingi> I can't really use it either, hehe.
[04:10] <tsingi> I bought my daughter one, she uses it.
[04:11] <holstein> i plugged it into lucid
[04:11] <holstein> to see if it was supported
[04:11] <holstein> seemed like it was
[04:11] <lifestream> holstein,  you have a cool daughter :)
[04:11] <tsingi> wacom is supported in linux, but not that well I think.  She uses Mac/Windows mostly.
[04:11] <holstein> nah, thats tsingi 's daughter
[04:11] <tsingi> right, and she is cool.
[04:12] <lifestream> xD wrong name. was too busy drawing circles on that web page :P
[04:13] <tsingi> it'll save your image and bring it back next time you visit.
[04:13] <holstein> thats awesome
[04:13] <holstein> i gotta save that
[04:13] <tsingi> totally
[04:13] <holstein> its acting a little funny in chromium
[04:13] <holstein> i want to mess with it in FF sometime
[04:15] <lifestream> Gimp drives me nuts. Going to need a straight jacket.
[04:16] <tsingi> price is right
[04:16] <lifestream> Haha
[04:16] <holstein> its almost like it could be split up
[04:16] <holstein> into a few different apps
[04:16] <lifestream> I have Photoshop, but the waccom does not work with the layers, in linux
[04:16] <holstein> that integrate well with each other
[04:16] <tsingi> photoshop does rock, bit it costs a fortune.
[04:16] <holstein> OH
[04:17] <lifestream> Thankgod for student discount :P Got it when I could
[04:17] <holstein> that would be helpbul
[04:17] <holstein> helpful*
[04:17] <holstein> i run it on the EEE sometimes
[04:17] <holstein> its a mess
[04:18] <lifestream> What, photoshop/
[04:18] <lifestream> ?
[04:18] <tsingi> I think I'm done working on setting up this card, someone influenced me to buy beer, and now I don't feel like thinking.
[04:18] <tsingi> bed time anyway.
[04:18] <holstein> lifestream: hehe, nah.. the GIMP
[04:18] <lifestream> Ahhhh
[04:18] <holstein> GN tsingi
[04:19] <tsingi> I have no problems using the gimp, but my requirements are low.
[04:19] <lifestream> good ngiht tsingi :)
[04:19] <tsingi> night
[04:22] <lifestream> Hmm this poses a problem.
[04:22] <lifestream> Oh nvm :) gimp can save to psd. yayers
[06:13] <Blank__> assuming my copy of ubuntu studio 10.04 b2 isn't corrupted like i suspect, are there any nasties in the beta i should know about?
[06:27] <lifestream> Anyone have wacom working in photoshop under wine?
[06:53]  * adorabelle wonders when is the official 10.04 release
[14:13] <helo> i was trying to use amsynth with jack-rack, by attaching jack-rack into my audio output, and running amsynth into jack-rack, and then my midi controller into amsynth... but i didn't get any sound with the few effects i tried
[14:20] <AutoStatic> Screenshot of your Connections window of QjackCtl?
[14:21] <AutoStatic> Or maybe the output of jack_lsp ?
[14:21] <AutoStatic> In your case jack_lsp -c
[14:24] <helo> not at home now... so that should work?
[14:25] <helo> i can plug amsynth into audio-out instead of into jack-rack, and i get output
[14:25] <helo> but plugging amsynth into jack-rack into audio-out is silent
[14:26] <helo> is there a passthrough (no-effect) jack-rack effect?
[14:26] <helo> is that the result if i have no effects loaded?
[14:27] <AutoStatic> No, jack_lsp only lists the available jack ports and the -c option shows any connections
[14:28] <AutoStatic> And JACK-Rack without effects should let your sound through unaltered
[14:29]  * AutoStatic test out if that's correct
[14:34] <AutoStatic> Yeah, JACK Rack should pass through your sound unaltered when no effects are inserted
[14:35] <AutoStatic> I'm now running a VLC instance through JACK Rack
[14:38] <AutoStatic> And with or without effects, works well
[14:43] <helo> hmmm... ok, must be something else. thanks :)
[14:46] <AutoStatic> ok :)
[14:56] <rlameiro> back
[15:47] <lifestream> Anyone here have photoshop and wacom tablet working in photoshop? (i wont ask for help, just want to know your wine and photoshop version, if the wacom works)
[15:49] <AutoStatic> I have a Wacom tablet
[15:49] <AutoStatic> But no Photoshop
[15:49] <AutoStatic> So sorry, can't help you
[15:50] <lifestream> Yeah, the wacom works very well in linux, it's wine that's driving me nuts  :P
[15:50] <lifestream> When I use photoshop, then use the stylus to draw, I can see that it was used, because history shows  'brush' was used.
[15:51] <lifestream> But nothing actually draws on the canvas p
[15:51] <lifestream> ;p
[16:53] <_pg_> lifestream: what version ps are you using
[16:53] <lifestream> _pg_,  I'm using  ps CS (1)
[16:53] <_pg_> lifestream: wow! lol
[16:53] <lifestream> uuh
[16:54] <lifestream> youre seriously suggesting i pay to upgrade everytime there is a new ps,  but they dont work in linux? thatd be masochist, woudlnt  it
[16:58] <lifestream> why
[16:58] <lifestream> _pg_,  do you have wacom working with another version?
[17:04] <lifestream> i definitely  would not mind  upgrading, if it works with wacom in wine
[17:12] <_pg_> lifestream: no, I havent yet taken the leap of trying to get ps cs4 working. been too busy.
[17:12] <_pg_> lifestream: i wasnt saying you have to upgrade Im just wowing because that is old.
[17:12] <lifestream> ah
[17:13] <_pg_> lifestream: ive only used cs2 and later
[17:13] <lifestream> I just use it for painting, not some snazy 3d stuff, so the newer features are irrelevant to me, thats all :)
[17:15] <_pg_> lifestream: I would like to use GIMP-but I havent had time to learn so i just look aimlessly and dont know how to do anything
[17:15] <lifestream> ;p
[17:15] <lifestream> gimp drives me nuts.
[17:15] <lifestream> cant paint on transparent area
[17:16] <lifestream> gotta switch layers if using eye dropper.
[17:16] <lifestream> the 'scale'   bar  is either too small or too big :P
[17:16] <lifestream> so I keep making mistakes, and thats using gimp for many years
[17:23] <_pg_> lifestream: ever use inkscape?
[17:23] <_pg_> id like to be fluent there as well
[17:23] <lifestream> inkscape is for vectors
[17:30] <holstein> you guys know about the tutorials in inkscape?
[17:31] <_pg_> holstein: no
[17:31] <_pg_> lifestream: yeah, as an alternative to Ai
[17:32] <lifestream> _pg_,  i use raster not vector (vector would be useless)
[17:34] <holstein> _pg_: i think you get to them from the help menu
[17:34] <holstein> i'll have to install it in lucid here and make sure
[17:40] <holstein> _pg_: the tutorials are right in the help menu
[17:40] <holstein> i did the first few a while back
[17:40] <helo> is it possible to run multiple instances of amsynth, triggered by the same midi controller?
[17:40] <holstein> very helpful for me
[17:41] <holstein> helo: i have not tried AMsynth
[17:41] <holstein> but i have done that with many others
[17:41] <holstein> they should just stack up in JACK
[17:42] <holstein> like AMsynth_01 AMsynth_02
[17:42] <holstein> something like that
[17:42] <holstein> AND you can route the controller to whatever you want
[17:43] <helo> holstein: what do you use to create sound from midi in?
[17:44] <holstein> helo: i dont really have a 'regular'
[17:44] <helo> amsynth is just the first one i tried that worked without trouble
[17:44] <holstein> i dont do a lot of MIDI
[17:44] <holstein> almost exclusively analog
[17:44] <holstein> acoustic instruments
[17:44] <helo> qsynth requires me to find some soundfonts, which are all distributed online in some compressed format without linux support
[17:44] <holstein> BUT when i do, i try different synths
[17:45] <holstein> helo: i found some soundfonts
[17:45] <holstein> i forget where
[17:45] <_pg_> holstein: cool thanks for that
[17:45] <holstein> they were free in some sense of the word
[18:22] <holstein> helo: did you try http://soundfonts.homemusician.net/collections_soundfonts/hollywood_gm.html
[19:53] <helo> not yet, thanks :)
[23:53] <HowardtheDuck> hey
[23:55] <rlameiro> Jude