[00:00] <emgomez> lol, thanks for the effort but i'm not entirely sure that's in english :)
[00:00] <phillw> emgomez: join the club :-D
[00:00] <phillw> you should have read the other ones ;-0
[00:00] <phillw> ;-)
[00:02] <phillw> emgomez: hang on until people like bohdi_zazen ot ibuclaw are on, i reckon they'd know about it
[00:05] <emgomez> purely on the scheduler question? i think i figured out what a scheduler is
[00:05] <emgomez> i'm not sure how important it really is in the larger scheme, i was just curious if anyone would know off the top of their head
[00:12] <phillw> emgomez: i'm not sure of the deffintion 'scheduler', if it is something you wish the computer to do at certain times, with no requirement of a user, then it is a cron job.
[00:14] <emgomez> no, a scheduler is software that organizes and batches the order that processing requests go through the cpu, since it can only handle tasks sequentially
[00:14] <emgomez> now, what the difference is between a cfq and a deadline i/o, i have no idea
[00:15] <emgomez> but a scheduler is way down close to the hardware
[00:15] <emgomez> maybe it's not even appropriate to call it software
[00:15] <emgomez> i'm not sure if it's something associated with the kernel or not
[00:15] <emgomez> and by associated with, i mean... in...
[00:16] <phillw> emgomez: that's kernel level, and that I  have no knowledge of, grab either bohdi or ibulclaw, or go over to the programmers area
[00:17] <emgomez> i don't really have a question -- i was just reading through the server docs and one of the things it said was that a significant difference between the server and desktop ubuntu is the scheduler it uses.
[00:18] <emgomez> and so i was just curious about it and wanted to know more -- no particular problem with my particular scheduler. knock on wood.
[00:18] <emgomez> hi swoody
[00:20] <phillw> emgomez: all questions are important untill you are told they are not. I have asked on a different IRC to see if I can get you an answer.
[00:23] <emgomez> that's very kind of you to ask around for me
[00:27] <phillw> emgomez: I've carried on digging, and it still rather tachnical, http://lwn.net/Articles/355904/
[00:29] <emgomez> oh, no, it makes a lot of sense to me actually
[00:29] <phillw> cfq queues requests i think deadline i/o does not
[00:29] <emgomez> i like this website too
[00:30] <emgomez> right, so deadline will end up with a user experience that seems more responsive, at the cost of probably burning some time off the life of the hard drive because of more read/write operations but cfq delivers a "slower" user experience by queuing requests
[00:32] <phillw> i know there is an issue with mysql with the two systems, all seem rather dated, so I'm guessing they made their mind up ;-) http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/01/30/linux-io-schedulers-and-mysql/i
[00:35] <phillw> as MySQL is a rather important part of LAMP, I'm guessing what ever is best for MySQL is better for the server as coders are notorioulsly sloppy and hammer the MySQL engine to death :-)
[00:38]  * phillw has had rows on forums about it
[00:38] <emgomez> i don't know what LAMP is and only have a vague notion of what mysql actually is or does
[00:42] <phillw> mysql is a database system, an easy example is go to a forum http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php is our 'parent' forum, all the users / members / admins / moderartors etc are held in a table, every post anyone makes is held in a table, the keeping to people and the posting is done via the mysql database. These databases also do things like hold drivers license records etc.
[00:51] <sweatshopking> I have followed these steps   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1111518 up until the insmod part. once i try that, it says no file or directory and fails. anyone know how to fix this? i am trying to get my wireless card to work
[00:53] <phillw> emgomez: if you'd like to see how mysql runs 'live' sites such as forums, catalogues etc, pop over to http://mgjuddltd.co.uk/index.php and put it into tutorial mode (Right at the bottom on the left), when you navigate the site you will see the commands being made to the database (mysql) that gets the records to be displayed. 'L' is linux aka Ubuntu, 'A' is Apache, allows access and does the 'translatations' so your browser can display stuff, 'M' is
[00:53] <nhandler> sweatshopking: What is the exact command you are running?
[00:53] <sweatshopking> wehn i download the package, Step 1 - Download the modified driver source here: http://rapidshare.com/files/160951015/WUSB600N.tar  Step 2 - Extract WUSB600N.tar to a folder  Step 3 - Open a terminal and navigate to the newly created WUSB600N folder  Step 4 - type "sudo make" without quotes  Step 5 - Copy the file:  sudo mkdir /etc/Wireless  sudo mkdir /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA  sudo cp RT2870STA.dat /etc/Wireless/RT
[00:54] <sweatshopking> sorry last line should read: "sudo insmod rt2870sta.ko
[00:54] <nhandler> You got cut off sweatshopking
[00:54] <nhandler> After sudo cp RT2870STA.dat /etc/Wireless/R
[00:54] <sweatshopking> o ok
[00:55] <sweatshopking> it is shown at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1111518, but i'm navigating to the folder that i extracted the files to, then typing "sudo insmod rt2870sta.ko
[00:56] <nhandler> sweatshopking: In the cp command (about 4 code boxes up from insmod), what was the exact cp command you ran?
[00:56] <sweatshopking> so mine is exactly "~Desktop/WUSB600N/os/linux$ sudo insmod rt2870.ko"
[00:56] <sweatshopking> ummm
[00:57] <nhandler> Oh wait, I was reading the second part about making it permanent. One sec
[00:57] <sweatshopking> i typed it exactly as it says sudo cp RT2870STA.dat /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/RT2870STA.dat and it seemed to have worked
[00:57] <sweatshopking> i have the file in my etc folder
[00:57] <sweatshopking> as i should
[00:58] <nhandler> sweatshopking: From inside the WUSB600N/os/linux folder, what does ls show?
[00:59] <sweatshopking> sorry
[01:00] <sweatshopking> my computer hibernated lol
[01:00] <sweatshopking> had to plug it iin
[01:00] <sweatshopking> it shows a bunch of files, do you want me to list them?
[01:00] <nhandler> sweatshopking: Can you paste it at paste.ubuntu.com ?
[01:00] <sweatshopking> it is on a different pc
[01:03] <sweatshopking> but the files are: 2870_main_dev.c, config.mk, makefile makefile.4, makefile.6, module.symvers, modules.order, rt2870sta.dat, rt_ate.c, rt_linux.c rt)linux.o, rt_main_dev.c, rt_profile.c, sta)ioctl.c sta_ioctl.c.patch tmp60 tmp61
[01:03] <sweatshopking> i understand that is difficult to read, sorry
[01:03] <sweatshopking> i dont have access to the internet without my wireless card on my ubuntu box
[01:03] <sweatshopking> my building just has wireless
[01:04] <hgd4th> hi, can anyone help me get my built-in webcam on my laptop working?
[01:07] <sweatshopking> you gone nhandler?
[01:10] <sweatshopking> you guys all gone?
[01:11] <malev> don't think
[01:12] <duanedesign> hgd4th: what kind of laptop do you have
[01:12] <hgd4th> Sony VAIO VGN-SZ430N
[01:13] <hgd4th> I tried lsusb yesterday
[01:13] <hgd4th> and this is what it outputted: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/420800/
[01:14] <hgd4th> according to this the module for my webcam has problems: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[01:14] <hgd4th> I'm running Ubuntu 9.10. I tried the 10.04 LiveCD and it didn't work either
[01:16] <malev> hgd4th, have you take a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/120434
[01:18] <hgd4th> no that is new to me
[01:18] <hgd4th> what should I do with that
[01:19] <malev> hgd4th, don't know. I didn't read it. it's too long :D
[01:19] <malev> it's a bug report about your camera
[01:20] <malev> and if you take a look at the latest answer, it's dated 4 days ago
[01:20] <malev> and it says: any ideas?
[01:21] <malev> so, it doesn't look really good for me. But I think it's a discuss about including or not including a camera driver.
[01:21] <malev> is it included?
[01:21] <hgd4th> looks like some people have had success with whatever's on that page
[01:22] <hgd4th> I'll read through it and see what I get
[01:22] <malev> there is also this page: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/SonyVaioVGN-SZ430N
[01:22] <malev> hgd4th, how are you testing your webcam?
[01:24] <hgd4th> I type "gstreamer-properties" in the terminal
[01:25] <malev> hgd4th, and you take a look if webcam is one of your devices?
[01:26] <duanedesign> hgd4th: read the bug and it looks like this is the relevant comment
[01:26] <duanedesign> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/120434/comments/82
[01:27] <duanedesign> or go straight to the ppa he has install instructions there. https://launchpad.net/~r5u87x-loader/+archive/ppa
[01:28] <malev> duanedesign, you rocks!
[01:28] <hgd4th> ah thanks I'll try that
[01:28] <malev> can't believe you read it all
[01:30] <duanedesign> heh, you found the bug report
[01:30] <duanedesign> malev: ^^
[01:30] <duanedesign> :)
[01:32] <hgd4th> the help on here is amazing
[01:32] <hgd4th> I appreciate it lots
[01:33] <malev> don't forget to vote for as in June! :D   (jocking)
[01:33] <malev> * us
[01:34] <duanedesign> definetly the community helps make Ubuntu such a great experience
[01:35] <hgd4th> sure beats the hell out of Microsoft customer service
[01:36] <malev> could not agree more
[01:36] <malev> I'm sorry. I have no idea about Microsoft customer service. I agree with duanedesign (don't want the misunderstood)
[01:37] <hgd4th> yes! videochat is working
[01:37] <hgd4th> thanks you two
[01:37] <duanedesign> \o/
[01:37] <malev> awesome!
[02:48] <ddecator> hey all
[07:50] <shahan> phillw: hi
[07:50] <shahan> phillw: r u here?
[07:52] <shahan> I am in problem in TASKSEL
[07:52] <shahan> any one here who can help me?
[07:52] <shahan> problem with Tasksel
[07:53] <shahan> problem solved
[07:53] <shahan> :)
[07:53] <shahan> I forget to use SUDO before Tasksel\
[07:54] <shahan> Tasksel
[07:54] <shahan> :)
[07:54] <shahan> Thanks Allah
[09:25] <shahan> hello everybody
[09:25] <shahan> how is going on...
[09:25] <shahan> I am back again
[09:40] <man0riaX> Hey
[09:49] <shahan> good bye for now...
[09:49] <shahan> see u again everybody
[09:49] <shahan> bye
[09:49] <ddecator> cya shahan
[09:49] <shahan> ddecator: cya!!! what is this?
[09:49] <shahan> ddecator: what does it mean?
[09:50] <ddecator> cya = see ya = see you later
[09:50] <hobgoblin> good morning peoples
[09:50] <shahan> hobgoblin: good evening
[09:50] <shahan> hobgoblin: :)
[09:50] <hobgoblin> :)
[09:50] <ddecator> morning? i need to stop staying up so late..
[09:51] <shahan> ddecator: ok...
[09:51] <shahan> bye
[09:51] <hobgoblin> I need to stop getting up so early ...
[09:51] <ddecator> heh, fair enough
[09:51] <hobgoblin> I've been kicking about since 6am
[10:02] <ibuclaw> o/
[10:05] <duanedesign> \o
[10:05] <hobgoblin> \o/
[11:28] <znxtch> Can anyone help me with installing the 'Mira' theme for Gnome?
[12:52] <znxtch> Could someone please tell me how to install Beryl?
[12:52] <znxtch> I would like to use an emerald theme.
[13:27] <Quietstorm> Hello
[13:28] <Quietstorm> I have a question to ask
[13:29] <hobgoblin> ask it - if someone can help they will
[13:32] <Quietstorm> I am trying to find the file ~/.huludesktop and having difficulty.
[13:33] <Quietstorm> I'm using the terminal
[13:35] <hobgoblin> need to edit it?
[14:35] <Severity1> hi everyone :D
[18:33] <AJH101> Hello - I have just tried the Live CD of Lucid. It looks great but did not detect my Netgear Broadband adapter. Should I be installing anything to do this? Thanks!
[18:35] <AJH101> Or is this not the right channel for this qn?
[18:40] <shahan> AJH101:  hi
[18:41] <Quietstorm> hello
[18:41] <shahan> AJH101: did it detected in ubuntu previous version?
[18:43] <Quietstorm> I have a question
[18:46] <Quietstorm> is it normal behavior for the cpu utilization to stay at 100%, even at idle? I have a quad core AMD Phenom II 945, I'm concern that the cpu is running so high when there is nothing I am doing on it
[19:48] <AJH101> Hello - I have just tried the Live CD of Lucid. It looks great but did not detect my Netgear Broadband adapter. Should I be installing anything to do this? Thanks!
[19:49] <AJH101> Or is this not the right channel for this qn?
[20:50] <javatexan> is there a program to help manage ssh keys?
[20:51] <paultag> javatexan, Humm. What do you want to do?
[20:51] <paultag> javatexan, if you just want to take a look and authorize them, seahorse might work
[20:51] <paultag> javatexan, but most of the work might need to be done with the CLI. Perhaps you can explain a bit more?
[20:51] <javatexan> I have one for gitorious, and a few more for different servers I use....getting harder to keep up with them
[20:51] <paultag> Ahhhh
[20:52] <paultag> javatexan, and you can't remember which to -i ~/.ssh/key ?
[20:52] <javatexan> yeah...I kind of need to annotate them
[20:52] <paultag> javatexan, you can set up rules to set a key for a server. Let me find you a walkthrough. It's a really kickass feature
[20:52] <javatexan> sweet!
[20:52] <paultag> so when I use a git clone on github, it will use key X, and an ssh to debian.org would use key Y
[20:52] <paultag> Hold on a sec
[20:53] <javatexan> no worries..
[20:54] <paultag> OK I can't find it javatexan, but here is what you do
[20:54] <paultag> edit ~/.ssh/config
[20:55] <paultag> Host domain.com
[20:55] <paultag>     IdentityFile ~/.ssh/key
[20:55] <javatexan> ah..Ok, I see it
[20:55] <javatexan> gotcha
[20:55] <paultag> you can setup the username there as well javatexan
[20:56] <paultag> javatexan, `man ssh_config`
[20:56] <paultag> There it is :)
[20:56] <paultag> and now when you `ssh domain.com` it will use key ~/.ssh/key
[20:56] <paultag> is that what you are looking for javatexan?
[20:56] <javatexan> that is cool, then you can organize the keys in whatever folder hierarchy you want?
[20:56] <znxtch> paultag
[20:56] <paultag> javatexan, yup yup
[20:56] <znxtch> got a ? for you
[20:57] <paultag> javatexan, just make sure they are 0600 chmod'ed
[20:57] <znxtch> a personal opinion query
[20:57] <paultag> yo znxtch
[20:57] <javatexan> awesome..thanks paultag
[20:57] <znxtch> because you atleast appear to be smart
[20:57] <paultag> javatexan, sure thing, come back with any other issues
[20:57] <paultag> znxtch, Well good. I try and appear smart.
[20:58] <javatexan> znxtch: how do you know what paultag looks like....how can he appear anything on IRC
[20:58] <javatexan> ?
[20:58] <znxtch> switching to the 10.0.4 release candidate now or waiting on the lts in a few ore days?
[20:58] <paultag> znxtch, 10.04 *
[20:58] <paultag> znxtch, it's year.month
[20:58] <znxtch> yeah
[20:58] <paultag> znxtch, and it's up to you. We could use help testing
[20:58] <znxtch> im typing laying down
[20:58] <znxtch> its hard
[20:58] <znxtch> lol
[20:58] <paultag> It's OK
[20:58] <paultag> javatexan, ;)
[20:59] <paultag> znxtch, Go for it. I'm doing it now. Report any bugs
[20:59] <znxtch> I didnt know if there was any point so close to the lts release
[20:59] <paultag> znxtch, that is the LTS
[20:59] <paultag> znxtch, that's the release candidate
[20:59] <znxtch> what is the one in 5 days?
[20:59] <paultag> znxtch, 10.04
[21:00] <paultag> znxtch, it's for hackers to test. There was also the 10.04 Alpha and Beta releases
[21:00] <paultag> znxtch, now the RC, and then it gets released on the 30th
[21:00] <znxtch> thats what i was referring to
[21:02] <paultag> znxtch, I don't understand the question, then
[21:03] <znxtch> im dumb
[21:03] <paultag> OK
[21:03] <znxtch> i long the stable lts came out in 5 days
[21:03]  * znxtch does the I'm new face and tryts to fade back in to the crowd
[21:03] <paultag> znxtch, the "stable" version
[21:03] <paultag> znxtch, before that is the "rc" version
[21:03] <paultag> znxtch, and before that is beta2, and before that beta1
[21:04] <paultag> znxtch, it's all the same
[21:04] <znxtch> 10.04 is "stable" then?
[21:04] <paultag> no
[21:04] <paultag> 10.04 is the next release
[21:04] <paultag> and it's stable version is out on the 30th
[21:04]  * znxtch downloads it
[21:05] <paultag> znxtch, that will become the official version when it releases
[23:34] <malev> pedro3005, what are the advantages that the ChanServ gives you?
[23:34] <pedro3005> advantages?
[23:35] <malev> don't know. what can you do, now that ChanServ gave voice?
[23:35] <pedro3005> oh
[23:35] <pedro3005> nothing
[23:35] <pedro3005> just identifies team members
[23:37] <Bodsda> unless the channel is voice only
[23:37] <Bodsda> +m I think
[23:37] <malev> Bodsda, you are learning about the chanserv too isn't it?
[23:39] <Bodsda> yeah