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| ChrisWoollard | According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/authors TexLive2009 in the packagetree is broken. Is this still the case? | 00:13 |
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| godbyk | ChrisWoollard: I'm not sure; I haven't tried it in a while. But we need the latest version of XeTeX and polyglossia. | 00:15 |
| godbyk | You could try the packages if you like, but the safe bet is to install from upstream. | 00:15 |
| ChrisWoollard | Ok. I will play tomorrow. My eyes want to give up. Sleeping time | 00:28 |
| godbyk | I hear ya. See ya later. | 00:29 |
| ChrisWoollard | It is never good to work on translations while sleepy. | 00:29 |
| thorwil | godbyk: hi! have to make sure ... the bleed for the lulu cover is inwards from the dimensions you gave me, right? | 08:57 |
| godbyk-android | thorwil: yep | 12:15 |
| thorwil | godbyk-android: good. had a chance to look into the generate-titlepages issue? i somehow broke that | 12:16 |
| godbyk-android | oh, I thought you'd figured out the problem already. If you send me a short email describing the issue, I'll take a look at it when I wake up. | 12:18 |
| daker | hello everybody | 12:44 |
| dutchie | godbyk: ping | 13:16 |
| dutchie | godbyk: actually, nm | 13:16 |
| vish | hrm , looks like i missed daker again :s | 14:01 |
| vish | humphreybc: heya , do you have access to the manual website? got the icons ready for facebook and twitter | 14:01 |
| humphreybc | um | 14:02 |
| humphreybc | not sure | 14:02 |
| humphreybc | it depends whether he's using the main branch stil | 14:03 |
| humphreybc | still* | 14:03 |
| humphreybc | I have a feeling it might have moved to ubuntu-manual-website which I can't write to | 14:03 |
| humphreybc | email them to him | 14:03 |
| vish | humphreybc: whats his id? | 14:03 |
| humphreybc | actually | 14:03 |
| humphreybc | he only just turned up a couple of hours ago | 14:03 |
| humphreybc | i'll see if he's on facebook | 14:04 |
| vish | bah , i'll get him next time ;) | 14:04 |
| humphreybc | his email is adnane002@gmail.com | 14:04 |
| humphreybc | 5 days till release? eek | 14:06 |
| humphreybc | i hope thorwil's cover design is nearing completion! | 14:06 |
| dutchie | lo humphreybc | 14:34 |
| thorwil | humphreybc: front and spine yes, backside not so much | 14:35 |
| humphreybc | hi dutchie | 14:35 |
| humphreybc | thorwil: okay, you've got another couple of days :P | 14:35 |
| humphreybc | i'll keep pestering the design team, make sure you get the logo SVG asap | 14:36 |
| ChrisWoollard | dutchie: did you get your branches sorted out in the end? | 15:07 |
| dutchie | yeah | 15:08 |
| dutchie | just battling with updating the pot file now | 15:08 |
| ChrisWoollard | Ok. That is good (? pretending he understands what a pot file does). | 15:09 |
| dutchie | the pot file is the template for the translations | 15:09 |
| dutchie | so once it's updated, the strings godbyk changed about the search engine provider will be available to be translated | 15:10 |
| ChrisWoollard | ahhhh. Translations i understand. I have done a lot of those. Hopefully they won't break | 15:11 |
| dutchie | hopefully | 15:11 |
| ChrisWoollard | Does that also mean I can keep translating or have to wait? | 15:12 |
| dutchie | keep going | 15:13 |
| dutchie | most strings will be unaffected | 15:13 |
| ChrisWoollard | That is good. 626 of uk english left. I WILL finish it...... | 15:16 |
| dutchie | good man :) | 15:17 |
| humphreybc | come on brits, you can do it | 15:18 |
| ChrisWoollard | Yes, but it takes ages. | 15:19 |
| ChrisWoollard | was there a tag along the lines of \ie | 15:25 |
| dutchie | yes | 15:26 |
| ChrisWoollard | good | 15:26 |
| humphreybc | dutchie: "the strings godbyk changed about the search engine provider will be available to be translated" huh? | 15:26 |
| dutchie | they will as soon as po4a sorts itself out | 15:26 |
| humphreybc | oh right, google | 15:27 |
| humphreybc | i see | 15:27 |
| dutchie | shower time | 15:28 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello | 19:35 |
| ubuntujenkins | has anyone looked at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/569470 . its not a valid bug against the manual but what should it be reassigned to? | 19:40 |
| manualbot | Launchpad bug 569470 in ubuntu-manual "can't install 10.04 release candidate on ASus k72F " [Undecided,New] | 19:40 |
| ubuntujenkins | reassigned bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubiquity/+bug/569470 | 19:49 |
| manualbot | Launchpad bug 569470 in ubiquity "can't install 10.04 release candidate on ASus k72F " [Undecided,New] | 19:49 |
| ubuntujenkins | bye all | 20:00 |
| ubuntujenkins | evening all | 21:48 |
| IlyaHaykinson | if i bzr pull in a directory pulled from before the lucid-e1/lucid-e2 split, will i be on the lucid-e2 branch now? or still lucid-e1? | 22:31 |
| IlyaHaykinson | and is there a way to find out? | 22:31 |
| IlyaHaykinson | i can't seem to tell which branch i'm on | 22:31 |
| dutchie | try bzr info | 22:31 |
| IlyaHaykinson | push branch: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/main/ | 22:32 |
| dutchie | that's lucid-e1 | 22:32 |
| IlyaHaykinson | i thought the main branch is lucid-e2 now? | 22:32 |
| dutchie | well, yes | 22:32 |
| dutchie | it's complicated | 22:32 |
| dutchie | and confusing | 22:33 |
| IlyaHaykinson | ok. i'll take your word for it. | 22:33 |
| IlyaHaykinson | we're still tweaking the website in the main branch though, right? | 22:33 |
| IlyaHaykinson | i think we have a font issue. | 22:33 |
| dutchie | I want the website out of the branch, personally | 22:34 |
| IlyaHaykinson | agreed | 22:34 |
| dutchie | I think it's being developed in the lp:ubuntu-manual-website branch now | 22:34 |
| IlyaHaykinson | except that this is a closed branch... | 22:35 |
| dutchie | a what? | 22:35 |
| dutchie | you can't push? | 22:35 |
| IlyaHaykinson | https://code.launchpad.net/~adnane002/ubuntu-manual-website/website | 22:36 |
| IlyaHaykinson | "You cannot upload to this branch. Only Adnane Belmadiaf can upload to this branch." | 22:36 |
| dutchie | well that needs fixing | 22:36 |
| IlyaHaykinson | nod | 22:36 |
| dutchie | poke daker when he comes online | 22:36 |
| IlyaHaykinson | will do | 22:37 |
| IlyaHaykinson | well, for now, i can just play locally | 22:37 |
| IlyaHaykinson | *sigh* need to get apache+php running on this box though | 22:37 |
| IlyaHaykinson | or how do all the cool kids host php now? nginx? lighthttpd? | 22:37 |
| dutchie | I avoid PHP | 22:39 |
| IlyaHaykinson | i haven't used it in at least 6 years | 22:39 |
| IlyaHaykinson | before, though, it was seriously my language of choice | 22:40 |
| IlyaHaykinson | well, web framework of choice at the very least. | 22:40 |
| dutchie | django \o/ | 22:40 |
| IlyaHaykinson | meh. i tend to write on top of cherrypy or tornado directly, these days | 22:41 |
| godbyk | I'm awake again. (Boo!) | 22:50 |
| godbyk | Hey, dutchie. Any luck on the po4a front? | 22:50 |
| dutchie | no :( | 22:50 |
| godbyk | rats! | 22:50 |
| dutchie | #po4a is about as useful as a chocolate teapot too | 22:50 |
| godbyk | Yeah, I noticed that, too. | 22:50 |
| godbyk | I think it's inhabited only by zombies. | 22:50 |
| godbyk | They haven't said one word. | 22:51 |
| dutchie | I have had answers from there before | 22:51 |
| godbyk | (Not even braaaaaains!) | 22:51 |
| dutchie | it's getting close to manually-editing-the-pot-file time | 22:51 |
| godbyk | yuck. | 22:54 |
| godbyk | I added a couple links to the bottom of http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UMPtranslations that point to some translation software that may or may not be useful. | 22:55 |
| godbyk | (I haven't looked it much yet.) | 22:55 |
| godbyk | ...If we end up having to side-step launchpad/rosetta at some point. | 22:55 |
| IlyaHaykinson | there's always http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pootle | 22:56 |
| godbyk | IlyaHaykinson: Yeah, that's one of the links I put in, I think. | 22:56 |
| dutchie | I don't think LP/Rosetta is the weak link | 22:57 |
| godbyk | Where do you think the weak link is? po4a? | 22:57 |
| dutchie | gettext | 22:57 |
| dutchie | po4a could be improved too | 22:57 |
| dutchie | gettext is very good at doing software, but it's just not designed for doing docs | 22:58 |
| godbyk | How are docs normally translated? | 22:58 |
| godbyk | The translators are handed completed documentation to translate at once? | 22:58 |
| dutchie | I think so | 22:58 |
| dutchie | not done this much before though :Virtaal is built on the powerful API of the Translate Toolkit. “Virtaal” is an Afrikaans play on words meaning “For Language”, but also refers to translation. | 22:59 |
| dutchie | hag | 22:59 |
| dutchie | gah | 22:59 |
| dutchie | I'm going to be | 22:59 |
| dutchie | d | 22:59 |
| godbyk | 'kay. | 22:59 |
| godbyk | have pleasant dreams about translations. discover an awesome solution. :-) | 22:59 |
| dutchie | I'm in london for the national schools' challenge quiz finals tomorrow, so I won't be around | 23:00 |
| godbyk | gotcha. good luck! | 23:01 |
| dutchie | thanks | 23:01 |
| IlyaHaykinson | omg cufon makes things _so_ much more readable | 23:25 |
| IlyaHaykinson | as does switching to having verdana be the primary font for the website | 23:25 |
| IlyaHaykinson | it's night and day, on windows | 23:25 |
| IlyaHaykinson | ok, actually, found the problem. | 23:34 |
| IlyaHaykinson | between 6 and 11 pt sizes for Dejavu Sans Condensed, the font is broken on windows | 23:35 |
| IlyaHaykinson | like, absolutely atrocious | 23:35 |
| IlyaHaykinson | 5 pt or lower, and 12 pt and higher, it looks great. | 23:35 |
| IlyaHaykinson | oops, i have my range incorrect | 23:36 |
| IlyaHaykinson | 10pt - 17pt. | 23:38 |
| IlyaHaykinson | though it's about the effective zoom range | 23:38 |
| IlyaHaykinson | the solution is to switch to Dejavu Sans (non-condensed) which does not have this problem | 23:38 |
| godbyk | What was the original font stack? | 23:49 |
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