| rww | Hola. ConcreteRose has been in and out of #ubuntu a couple of times over the last hour spouting gibberish. Might be worth keeping an eye out for him. | 01:09 |
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| elky | funkyHat, the content is touchy on more than just the "mocking kiddie prons" level. what they describe is being genuinely proposed in places. Here in .au for example | 01:38 |
| IdleOne | funkyHat: child porn is not something to be joked about. imho | 01:40 |
| IdleOne | clean content or not | 01:40 |
| funkyHat | IdleOne: that wasn't the subject of the joke, but I agree | 01:40 |
| elky | IdleOne, you need to watch the vid to understand | 01:40 |
| IdleOne | link me in private please. we don't need it logged | 01:41 |
| IdleOne | thank you | 01:41 |
| * funkyHat facepalms | 01:43 | |
| txwikinger | nhandler: how do I get to be OP in ##fix_your_connection ? | 01:44 |
| IdleOne | funkyHat: you should be face palming lol | 01:45 |
| * funkyHat stabs putty repeatedly | 01:45 | |
| IdleOne | umm well the site/video itself is not bad in any way except for the filtering and blocking websites thing that I don't agree with | 01:45 |
| IdleOne | I think we need more education and less policing | 01:46 |
| IdleOne | just my 2.5 cents | 01:46 |
| funkyHat | IdleOne: it's a spoof | 01:47 |
| elky | IdleOne, ok, so in places where these blocking lists are being proposed, the response to criticism from the powerhungry pollies trying to set them up is "You are a supporter of kiddie prons" | 01:47 |
| IdleOne | elky: well that is a stretch of logic | 01:48 |
| IdleOne | heh | 01:48 |
| IdleOne | but yeah of course anytime someone disagrees they are going to go to extremes | 01:48 |
| funkyHat | Yeah, I think I should have said something at the time | 01:49 |
| funkyHat | (and not pasted it all over the channel just now -_-) | 01:49 |
| IdleOne | I don't think the Gov in Canada should of raised registration fees on motorcyles, that means I support biker gangs! | 01:50 |
| funkyHat | irssi normally questions me if I accidentally paste a whole load of crap :( | 01:50 |
| IdleOne | funkyHat: fail for rellying on app to save you :P | 01:50 |
| funkyHat | IdleOne: I wasn't :( I don't normally use putty | 01:51 |
| funkyHat | Accidentally highlighted and it has weird mouse button actions | 01:51 |
| IdleOne | ehh it happens | 01:51 |
| funkyHat | I've changed them now | 01:51 |
| IdleOne | I did something similar with a convo from #ubuntu-women (not logged) to #ubuntu-women-project (logged) :( | 01:52 |
| funkyHat | oops | 01:53 |
| IdleOne | yeah | 01:53 |
| IdleOne | ohh with sound the video makes more sense | 01:53 |
| IdleOne | I understand the spoof now | 01:54 |
| IdleOne | not sure about ConcreteRose and if they are a troll | 02:00 |
| IdleOne | but I think so | 02:00 |
| IdleOne | can someone keep an eye on ConcreteRose. I need to run out to the store | 02:02 |
| txwikinger | IdleOne: I can.. but I am not an op in the channel | 02:03 |
| elky | self solved | 02:04 |
| IdleOne | ok they are gone but will probably be back | 02:04 |
| IdleOne | be back soon | 02:04 |
| txwikinger | :) | 02:04 |
| nhandler | txwikinger: Become freenode staff ;) | 02:08 |
| txwikinger | nhandler: :) | 02:08 |
| txwikinger | ok one step after the other :) | 02:08 |
| txwikinger | I don't need it anyway... the docu on freenode is false | 02:08 |
| nhandler | ??? | 02:11 |
| txwikinger | nhandler: it says you can only ban-forward if you are op in the channel to be forwarded to | 02:19 |
| nhandler | txwikinger: ##fix_your_connection has channel mode +F | 02:19 |
| txwikinger | Ah | 02:19 |
| txwikinger | how can you see that? | 02:19 |
| nhandler | /mode ##fix_your_connection | 02:20 |
| dhanesh | bazhang i was banned from #ubuntu why | 02:30 |
| dhanesh | i want to discuss some problems | 02:31 |
| IdleOne | could of waited more then 15 seconds | 02:32 |
| nhandler | Yep | 02:32 |
| txwikinger | not important enough :) | 02:33 |
| IdleOne | banned for ban evading | 02:34 |
| bazhang | actually for spoofing two other users and using some bot-like repeater script | 02:35 |
| bazhang | Dr_Willis1 and greekphreak | 02:35 |
| bazhang | magrath, dhanesh hi | 02:36 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, ubergamer said: here is the im | 02:37 |
| magrath | i was banned from ubuntu why | 02:37 |
| bazhang | for spoofing two other users, and using some kind of repeat script | 02:37 |
| IdleOne | ban evading also | 02:37 |
| bazhang | then you ban evaded at least a couple of times magrath | 02:38 |
| magrath | no no i didnt remember please retake me iam sorry | 02:38 |
| bazhang | magrath, sure you did, there are logs of it | 02:38 |
| magrath | because nobody is answering my question thats why | 02:39 |
| bazhang | !coc | magrath read this please | 02:39 |
| ubottu | magrath read this please: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct . | 02:39 |
| bazhang | !guidelines | magrath read this too, please | 02:39 |
| ubottu | magrath read this too, please: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 02:39 |
| magrath | oh i see | 02:39 |
| bazhang | magrath, please read both of those links, in their entirety | 02:40 |
| magrath | yes i read | 02:40 |
| magrath | i know that please retake me | 02:40 |
| bazhang | magrath, take your time, click the links and read them please | 02:40 |
| magrath | iam sorry please | 02:40 |
| bazhang | magrath, that's fine, we will wait for you to read them | 02:41 |
| bazhang | ugh | 02:42 |
| txwikinger | that sounded like my son :) | 02:42 |
| IdleOne | guess we continue to ban until he figures out how to renew ip | 02:43 |
| IdleOne | ? | 02:43 |
| txwikinger | Don't give them ideas :) | 02:43 |
| IdleOne | sowwy | 02:50 |
| * IdleOne types /clear | 02:50 | |
| IdleOne | there it is gone :P | 02:50 |
| txwikinger | what is gone? :p | 03:00 |
| IdleOne | Pici: guess HE understood lol | 03:27 |
| Pici | !ping | 03:29 |
| ubottu | pong | 03:29 |
| mneptok | IdleOne: did you just use "lol" in -ops? | 05:02 |
| * mneptok sighs | 05:02 | |
| IdleOne | just now? | 05:02 |
| mneptok | 20:27 <+IdleOne> Pici: guess HE understood lol | 05:02 |
| IdleOne | oh yeah but I didn't use just lol | 05:02 |
| * IdleOne curtails his use of lol | 05:03 | |
| mneptok | IMO, using "lol" and "roflmao" and such in -ops is like farting in church | 05:03 |
| mneptok | ;) | 05:03 |
| IdleOne | funny! | 05:03 |
| IdleOne | lots of times it's the preist himself | 05:04 |
| * mneptok is teasing. well ... kinda. | 05:04 | |
| IdleOne | priest | 05:04 |
| pleia2 | mneptok: lol | 05:06 |
| pleia2 | (just sayin') | 05:06 |
| IdleOne | thank you pleia2 | 05:07 |
| IdleOne | U rock! | 05:07 |
| IdleOne | hah | 05:07 |
| IdleOne | see what I did there mneptok | 05:07 |
| mneptok | hcilshitjf | 05:10 |
| elky | exceptions permitted for mocking lollersk8z and roflcopters? | 05:10 |
| mneptok | (holy crap i'm laughing so hard i totally just farted) | 05:10 |
| elky | um ah, you swore | 05:11 |
| IdleOne | that has to be just as bad as using lol | 05:12 |
| IdleOne | actually twice | 05:12 |
| IdleOne | heh | 05:12 |
| IdleOne | hcilshitjf | 05:13 |
| mneptok | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ7QmLd2eVg | 05:20 |
| mneptok | my colleague an i try to work the "ITJF" acronym into slides at conferences :) | 05:21 |
| mneptok | *and | 05:21 |
| elky | if you have to try, then you're choosing the wrong topics :P | 05:22 |
| elky | just pick a topic that lets you depict unruly users or something. | 05:23 |
| mneptok | the trick is to incorporate it meaningfully into the actual topic | 05:24 |
| mneptok | * Immediate drop-in replacement for MySQL | 05:25 |
| mneptok | * Thread pools added in MariaDB 5.1 | 05:25 |
| mneptok | * Join selects supported in 5.2 | 05:25 |
| mneptok | * Free Software, GPLv2 | 05:26 |
| mneptok | ;) | 05:26 |
| elky | I'm pretty sure I could get it in any of those topics. | 05:26 |
| mneptok | look at the bullet points. ;) | 05:26 |
| elky | ah, heh | 05:27 |
| elky | you're going way too subtle | 05:27 |
| mneptok | OK, off to bed, then flying tomorrow for 10 days in the Dominican Republic. i'll be (mostly) unavailable. | 05:36 |
| mneptok | enjoy (ahem) release day | 05:37 |
| mneptok | :/ | 05:37 |
| IdleOne | mneptok: have a good trip | 05:48 |
| Tm_T | K'day | 07:38 |
| elky | ooh, it looks like google fixed their apt repo. it doesn't take half a day to get headers anymore | 12:23 |
| funkyHat | Giving google root access on my box is something I'm just not quite comfortable enough with | 12:25 |
| Mamarok | root access? I don't think you give it root access by dowloading stuff... | 12:27 |
| Mamarok | the traffic is in one direction only | 12:27 |
| funkyHat | Mamarok: deb packages can run stuff as root during installation | 12:27 |
| Mamarok | well, then only download the stuff and install offline | 12:29 |
| persia | Rather, packages *do* run stuff as root during installtion. It's not just "can" | 12:30 |
| funkyHat | persia: no, it is *can*. dpkg runs as root, but packages can also provde preinst and postinst scripts if they need to | 12:31 |
| persia | Mamarok: How does that help? To give an extreme example, consider that I package a forkbomb, and you download forkbomb.deb, and then disconnect, and then install, and your system goes down. | 12:31 |
| funkyHat | If they aren't there the package contents are just extracted to the filesystem | 12:31 |
| persia | funkyHat: It's a very rare package that has no maintainer scripts these days, due to wide adoption of debhelper. | 12:31 |
| persia | But yeah, there are exceptions. | 12:32 |
| Mamarok | persia: well, don't use sources you don't trust then | 12:32 |
| persia | Mamarok: I believe that was the original point :) | 12:32 |
| funkyHat | Mamarok: which was the point I was making :) | 12:32 |
| funkyHat | Am I right in thinking the deb for chrome that you download actually adds itself to your sources list too? | 12:34 |
| funkyHat | I can understand the reason to do that from a usability perspective, but it still seems intrusive | 12:35 |
| Mamarok | well, I would use the Chromium daily PPA instead, to start with, that gets you code from Launchpad only, and I hope the PPA maintainer knows what s/he is doing | 12:40 |
| funkyHat | Yes that's what I use | 12:41 |
| h00k | mornin' | 15:11 |
| IdleOne | morning h00k | 15:11 |
| marienz | Hi! a3li just spotted http:/ircanswers.com/, which is (at least partially) logging #ubuntu. Is this a service you opted in to? | 16:26 |
| IdleOne | marienz: not that I know of | 16:33 |
| marienz | IdleOne: that's what I thought. We'll probably be klining it in the near future. | 16:33 |
| IdleOne | but #ubuntu is publicly logged so I don't see any harm | 16:34 |
| IdleOne | marienz: might want to ask a IRCC member | 16:34 |
| IdleOne | Pici: ^^^ | 16:34 |
| marienz | it's logging a little more than just #ubuntu, it's not obviously identifiable as a logbot, and I don't think it asked for permission in any of the channels it logs. | 16:35 |
| IdleOne | freenode afaik is free to allow access to who/what it choses :) | 16:36 |
| IdleOne | so I guess the final decision lies and you and Staff | 16:36 |
| jussi | marienz: thanks for the heads up, we will have a look into it. | 16:36 |
| IdleOne | s/and/on | 16:36 |
| jussi | marienz: and, no, we havent opted into anything except our own and irseek iirc. | 16:40 |
| jussi | Mind, the very fact that those are public, makes it somewhat a moot point, as they could just pull from said pulic logs. | 16:40 |
| marienz | sure, but I still would've liked them to ask for permission before putting that bot in here | 17:17 |
| IdleOne | this channel was also logged? | 17:17 |
| marienz | unless your guidelines mention other logbots are welcome (I didn't check) | 17:18 |
| IdleOne | then it was surely not approved | 17:18 |
| marienz | it was logging about 36 channels | 17:18 |
| marienz | err, no, not #ubuntu-ops :) | 17:18 |
| * marienz is confusing | 17:19 | |
| IdleOne | Well jussi is on the job now. I am sure he will get back to you with info asap | 17:19 |
| marienz | I've klined the bot and emailed them, asking them to make it easier to identify as a logbot and to check if it's welcome in the channels it logs. | 17:20 |
| IdleOne | marienz: take a look at nestea while you are here | 17:21 |
| IdleOne | oh never mind | 17:21 |
| jussi | marienz: if its is truly a l log bot, then we are op out of it. | 17:51 |
| jussi | marienz: what was the bots name? | 17:51 |
| marienz | jussi: emptyness47 [~emptyness@207-126-122-147.ip.openhosting.com] has quit [K-Lined] | 17:54 |
| marienz | that resolves to the same ip address ircanswers.com resolves to | 17:55 |
| jussi | marienz: ahh, excellent. thanks a lot. | 17:55 |
| marienz | we'll try to keep it klined until it changes its nick to be easier identifiable and its owner confirms with channel ops that it's welcome | 17:56 |
| jussi | marienz: ok. please let me know of any updates. | 18:00 |
| marienz | will do | 18:01 |
| marienz | jussi: #gentoo emailed them to get their content removed from the site, and that was responded to quickly. So if you want the existing content gone you could try that. | 18:01 |
| marienz | (he hasn't gotten back to me yet, but I mailed them a while after they did) | 18:01 |
| jussi | marienz: Ill talk about it with the rest of the irc council. | 18:03 |
| marienz | we may end up requesting they do that for everything they've logged that isn't ok'd. | 18:04 |
| jussi | marienz: yeah, that might be nice. | 18:04 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, guntbert said: sudo is a command to run command-line ( see !cli ) programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo | 18:17 |
| guntbert | somehow I messed my editing proposal up | 18:19 |
| IdleOne | guntbert: re-edit :) | 18:19 |
| IdleOne | btw gksudo for GUI | 18:19 |
| guntbert | I wanted to add one sentence to !sudo -(in this case really only sudo :-)) -- best to give it the complete factoid then? | 18:20 |
| IdleOne | guntbert: sorry what? | 18:21 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, guntbert said: sudo is <reply> sudo is a command to run command-line ( see !cli ) programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo | 18:21 |
| guntbert | IdleOne: see above please - what I suggest is addition of the sentence regarding fixsudo | 18:22 |
| guntbert | sudo | 18:22 |
| guntbert | !sudo | 18:22 |
| ubottu | sudo is a command to run command-line ( see !cli ) programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE) | 18:22 |
| IdleOne | guntbert: yes I see. it will have to be approved, not sure I can yet or how to | 18:23 |
| guntbert | IdleOne: no reason to hurry :-) I only wanted to make sure my proposal is understandable | 18:23 |
| IdleOne | it is | 18:23 |
| guntbert | ok - see you :-) | 18:24 |
| IdleOne | later | 18:24 |
| topyli | IdleOne, bot stuff does not follow operator privileges, it's a separate thing | 18:25 |
| topyli | we just discussed this with the council, it's a bit complicated :) | 18:25 |
| IdleOne | topyli: thanks for the info :) | 18:28 |
| topyli | maybe one day we'll learn to design things from the beginning so that they integrate well :) | 18:28 |
| IdleOne | topyli: well the edit gets a +1 from me. well written and easy to understand | 18:28 |
| IdleOne | I mean the link it leads to | 18:28 |
| topyli | yeah | 18:28 |
| IdleOne | topyli: good design from the start is something that would make us obsolete | 18:29 |
| topyli | woohoo! design ftw | 18:30 |
| jussi | nah, sorry, no way design wil ever replace topyli... or mneptok :P | 19:12 |
| IdleOne | hehe | 19:12 |
| IdleOne | ok, the rest of us non perfect beings | 19:12 |
| topyli | that's a terrible, terrible thought | 19:13 |
| IdleOne | what is? | 19:14 |
| topyli | no rest for mneptok, no matter the design :( | 19:14 |
| IdleOne | that we are not perfect or that you are? | 19:14 |
| topyli | btw, nefarious is not taking pm very seriously. i have now unmuted him on -ot after a fair warning | 19:16 |
| IdleOne | topyli: he will be calm for a few minutes until he says an opportunity to break rules again | 19:17 |
| topyli | then it's time to remove. no more warnings | 19:17 |
| IdleOne | I asked two times nicely to stop the drug talk | 19:18 |
| IdleOne | topyli: can you see why Tarantulafudge can't join -offtopic | 19:19 |
| topyli | @bansearch Tarantulafudge | 19:19 |
| topyli | grr | 19:19 |
| Tarantulafudge | grr? | 19:20 |
| IdleOne | no bans found | 19:21 |
| IdleOne | what client are you using? | 19:21 |
| Tarantulafudge | Java Chat Applet @ java.freenode.net | 19:21 |
| topyli | Tarantulafudge, that grr is not related to you :) | 19:21 |
| IdleOne | you aren't getting any server notices ? | 19:21 |
| Tarantulafudge | not a peep | 19:21 |
| Tarantulafudge | though I can move in and out of other channels without problems | 19:22 |
| IdleOne | so you issue /join #ubuntu-offtopic and nothing happens? | 19:22 |
| Tarantulafudge | essentially | 19:22 |
| IdleOne | got me dude/ette | 19:22 |
| Tarantulafudge | strange | 19:23 |
| IdleOne | you aren't banned from what i can see. try a different client perhaps | 19:23 |
| Tarantulafudge | BRB | 19:23 |
| Tarantulafudge | haha should have tried this first, thanks | 19:25 |
| IdleOne | so it was client related? | 19:26 |
| IdleOne | glad you figured it out. | 19:27 |
| IdleOne | now if I can ask you not to idle here :) | 19:27 |
| IdleOne | would be nice if ubottu returned the comment on a ban when doing @bansearch | 19:29 |
| IdleOne | if there is one | 19:29 |
| topyli | for the record, nefarious is not being nice to teh topyli in pm :( | 19:29 |
| * h00k notes this | 19:30 | |
| IdleOne | topyli: figured as much | 19:30 |
| topyli | he might appear here, i redirected | 19:30 |
| IdleOne | that is why I mentioned the comment thing | 19:30 |
| ubottu | IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu+1 (needhelp) | 19:43 |
| guntbert | ACKT1C seems to be ban evading in #ubuntu | 19:48 |
| IdleOne | nick? | 19:48 |
| IdleOne | same nick | 19:49 |
| IdleOne | nm | 19:49 |
| guntbert | IdleOne: ACKT1C (banned by flannel, similar nick) | 19:49 |
| guntbert | Wed Apr 14 06:58:52 *!*ackt1c@adsl-75-10-*.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net Flannel!~flannel@ubuntu/member/flannel | 19:50 |
| h00k | guntbert: yes, we have te logs | 19:50 |
| guntbert | h00k: ok - it was because IdleOne asked | 19:51 |
| h00k | guntbert: It's alright :) | 19:51 |
| guntbert | h00k: I'll be off - and thank you all for your effort and suport | 19:52 |
| h00k | guntbert: thanks for letting us know | 19:52 |
| IdleOne | thanks guntbert | 19:52 |
| guntbert | h00k: IdleOne :) | 19:52 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, gebUK__ said: ubottu, this document says that if the card is recognised in iwconfig | 20:05 |
| IdleOne | marienz: [sheats] ~sheats@c-98-254-182-201.hsd1.fl.comcast.net in #ubuntu-irc | 21:23 |
| marienz | IdleOne: that's an identified account. I don't think it is what you think it is, unless I missed something earlier. | 21:24 |
| IdleOne | marienz: | 21:25 |
| IdleOne | [16:12:57] <sheats> Hi! I have a little project I've been working on: http://ircanswers.com/ I have been logging content in #ubuntu for a month or so http://ircanswers.com/ubuntu/ but just realized today that I need to get permission to do so first. | 21:25 |
| IdleOne | [16:13:07] <sheats> Who can I contact to ask permission? | 21:25 |
| marienz | ahh | 21:25 |
| marienz | sorry, got two things mixed up | 21:25 |
| IdleOne | no problem | 21:25 |
| IdleOne | he seems to be trying to go the right route now | 21:26 |
| jpds | @btlogin | 23:44 |
| jpds | @login | 23:44 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 23:44 |
| jpds | @btlogin | 23:44 |
| jpds | Stupid bot. | 23:44 |
| jpds | ikonia: Brimstones aka baxxor in #ubuntu-devel is calling you "some dick". | 23:47 |
| jpds | ikonia: ...and he's ban evaded by changing IP in #ubuntu. | 23:47 |
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